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Speaker 1: Wow. Wow, the Mets got Louise Robert.

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Speaker 2: Louise Robert is a New York Met, just been traded

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Speaker 2: from the White Sox to the Mets in exchange for

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Speaker 2: Louis and Helicunya and Truman Paulie.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about it. You guys know.

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Speaker 2: I have been banging the Luis Robert drum since there

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Speaker 2: was ever a drum to bang in the history of mankind.

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Speaker 1: And he's finally a Met. I know James is pumped.

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Speaker 2: Instant reaction, James when seeing now, I was driving back

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Speaker 2: from a casino in Puerto Rico in the car with

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Speaker 2: my family and I went nuts, and they didn't really know.

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Speaker 1: How to react, because of course it's a Luis Robert trade.

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Speaker 1: How would you react? I mean, reacting is good. We've

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Speaker 1: been kind of clamoring for Louis Robert since to trade

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Speaker 1: deadline last year, mostly for the fact that in terms

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Speaker 1: of costs we figured it'd be relatively low. I think

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Speaker 1: we were correct about that. We'll talk more about especially

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Speaker 1: Truman Pauli, who was like such a bittersweet moment for

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Speaker 1: me in this trade. But two like, in terms of

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Speaker 1: player archetype, this is actly what the Mets needed. You

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Speaker 1: want a guy whose floor is an elite defensive centerfielder

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Speaker 1: and whose ceiling could still pretty easily be a four

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Speaker 1: even a five win player like he was only two

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Speaker 1: full seasons ago, Like this is a this is a

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Speaker 1: this is a shot on ceiling which we kind of

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Speaker 1: think the Mets roster is still probably needed even after

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Speaker 1: the Bobachette move, but still just so unbelievably jacked up

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I saw some people talking about, like we

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Speaker 2: already have Tyrone Taylor, Like why would we go after

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Speaker 2: Luis Robert. Luis Robert would have to get, honestly a

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Speaker 2: lot worse to be the Tyrone Taylor level, even just

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Speaker 2: because while he hasn't been the greatest hitter over the

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Speaker 2: last few years, still better than Tyrone, and defensively he's

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Speaker 2: absolutely elite, and he just he is such an obvious

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Speaker 2: change of scenery guy. He went from being called up

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty, being a part of that great White

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Speaker 2: Sox team that surprised everybody that year, competing in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty one, and then all of a sudden again he

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Speaker 2: looked around and every single person on that team was gone.

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Speaker 2: The ownership's horrible there, they're actively not trying to win.

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Speaker 2: Is it bad attitude to be a guy who maybe

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Speaker 2: phoned in a little bit? For sure, I don't love

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Speaker 2: that part of it. But at the same time, now

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Speaker 2: that he's in a winning team, winning organization, team that's

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Speaker 2: actively trying to I shouldn't say winning organization, that's kind

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Speaker 2: of not true at all, but a team that's trying

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Speaker 2: to become a winning organization. I do think that we're

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Speaker 2: just gonna get a much better version of him in

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Speaker 2: that that doesn't even really feel.

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Speaker 1: Very hard for him to do. No, and even if

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Speaker 1: we get like a fifteenth percentile outcome for Louise Robert

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Speaker 1: again and again, I think we're gonna get yelled at a

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Speaker 1: lot for saying Robert. I think a lot of people

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Speaker 1: still say Louise Robert, but it's Robert. It's you say.

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Speaker 1: You say the name with the accent of the way

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Speaker 1: it was meant to be said. Whatever's neither here nor there.

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Speaker 1: You probably get a league average hither and like you said,

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Speaker 1: one of the better defensive center fielders in the league,

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Speaker 1: which went all at the end of the day, will

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Speaker 1: win player on the average fiftieth percentile. But again, a

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Speaker 1: lot of what Robert has shown under the hood, even

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Speaker 1: in the last year where his surface level stats were terrible,

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Speaker 1: it's still a guy that has a lot of the

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Speaker 1: tools that made him again someone who two years ago

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Speaker 1: was literally literally an MVP candidate. This was two years ago.

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Speaker 1: ITA's not a very long time ago. Like he he

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Speaker 1: has to some of the best bats to beat in

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Speaker 1: that was always a not edible Louis Robert that that

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Speaker 1: was the swing decisions were a little bit out of whack.

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Speaker 1: He's gotten those completely under control, even if you look

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Speaker 1: over the last few years. I love the Seger stat

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Speaker 1: by Robert lower baseball perspectives. Last season he was in

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Speaker 1: the ninety fifth percentile of secrets. Seger is a metric

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Speaker 1: that measures the player's selective aggressiveness and basically which pitches

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Speaker 1: they're swinging at in the zone and which pitches they're

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Speaker 1: were kind of some of the elite guys in the league.

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Speaker 1: He looks like he has all the tools again, not

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Speaker 1: only be good, which I think would be a fine outcome,

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Speaker 1: just value proposition wise doing a guy like that. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: The ops the last few years and it's in the

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Speaker 2: six hundreds for the last couple of seasons, which isn't great.

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Speaker 2: But at the same time, like you said, just a

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Speaker 2: few years ago, again before the White Sox became the

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Speaker 2: an MVP candidate, and the ceiling is so high. The

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Speaker 2: athleticism is incredible. I think the thing that scares me

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Speaker 2: the most with him is, truthfully, as health. That's one

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Speaker 2: thing that doesn't matter if the team is good or bad.

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Speaker 2: Luis Robert's health will be a question all year long.

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Speaker 2: He has had a bunch of injuries, a bunch of

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Speaker 2: nagging injuries, stuff that muscular injuries, sliding, stealing bases, athleticism stuff.

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, like, man, it does feel

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Speaker 1: really really good to at least, like you said, go

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Speaker 1: changer in Luis Robert in this lineup doesn't even have

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Speaker 1: to be one of the five best hitters.

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Speaker 2: If he's our sixth best hitter, seventh best hit in

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Speaker 2: this lineup, that is a huge, huge improvement.

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Speaker 1: Well, I was going to say, even for building this

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Speaker 1: He pats very little pressure on him because there are

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Speaker 1: because like we we've seed that. We saw this last

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Speaker 2: Remember when his name really started getting hot, right before

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Speaker 2: the deadline and before the injury. He was a man

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Speaker 1: Yeah, literally in years. But again, some players have left

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Speaker 1: Being around guys like Golling Door, Bobachette and Won Soda

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess the only guy that might be in

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Speaker 2: feels a lot better when you have Luis row barn center,

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Speaker 2: some kind of combination again of Tyrone, Taylor and Carson

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Speaker 1: Yeah, making this trade eleven PM David Ston is definitely

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Speaker 1: This is not like trying to revive the late part

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Speaker 1: Like this is this saw someone in like the epitome

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Speaker 1: was hovering around nine hundred. No, yeah, hovering around nine hundred.

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Speaker 1: that's awesome. He's so strong, he's such a freak. Lop

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Speaker 1: Robert's playing downside. He's played more than one hundred and

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Speaker 1: ten games once in his entire career, Like, that's downside

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Speaker 1: But even if you do that, that's still someone's going

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Speaker 1: probably probably twenty percent better possibly and as good of

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Speaker 1: a defender in center field. So this is just you've

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Speaker 2: I also love the idea of just Robert being around

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Speaker 2: different people in terms of the coaches, the fact that

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Speaker 2: you're gonna have uh, Snicker, and you're gonna have Jeff

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Speaker 2: I gotta imagine for those coaches, this is like, this

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Speaker 1: Brice Tao Doco, I didn't realized that nice in the outfield,

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Speaker 1: and it.

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Speaker 2: Was in such a few amount of games. Also, Denzel Clark,

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Speaker 2: I think played like forty games two with that out

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Speaker 2: just like those that could Bryce where Denzel Clark has

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Speaker 2: the eggs if you low stuff that gets you Excaity,

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Speaker 2: Bryce Dyodosio's got negative nothing then after them again, this

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Speaker 2: is the tier we get to now, Jack Myers, I'm

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Speaker 2: sure the Mets were absolutely going for if this Robert

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Speaker 2: traite didn't come right across the world or at least

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Speaker 2: the same Doalvari dal VARs show your boy Michael Harris

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Speaker 2: the second and then Robert and that's Robert was in

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Speaker 2: the same tier as Miles Straw, Breton Doyle, Andy Payes

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Speaker 2: and then ahead of Harrison Bader like it's and if

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Speaker 2: Luis Robert becomes Andy Pajes, oh my god, what this

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Speaker 2: team would become.

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Speaker 1: I mean Andy pa is like a four and a

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Speaker 1: half way player last year. I think I know that's

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I think we got stuck with how

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Speaker 1: Andy Bayes looking in the World Series, but he's probably

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Speaker 1: still very good. It's just just I think the floor

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Speaker 1: on Luis Robert is the big take where from this

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Speaker 1: is significantly higher than the public perceives. And I think

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Speaker 1: the ceiling is still an all star.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the ceiling is all star and being able to

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Speaker 2: put that into your lineup is something that could completely

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Speaker 2: change this Mets season. And I love this move start

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Speaker 2: to finish, absolute master class by old dumpster Dave there.

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Speaker 1: And you know what probably the big part of this was,

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Speaker 1: and this is what you're able to do with you know,

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Speaker 1: Dumpster day. If this guy isn't like spending any money

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Speaker 1: Perken Rosendal, the Mets of taking on Robert's entire twenty

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Speaker 1: million dollar salary sweet as it don't matter, right, But

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Speaker 1: that's that's what you should be doing when you have

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Speaker 1: this kind of advantage and you can trade and especially

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Speaker 1: training a guy like Luisa Helicuna right now. I bet

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Speaker 1: there was a conversation about non tentering him when this

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Speaker 1: offseason began. Truthfully, there was There's.

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Speaker 2: Had to be a conversation about non tendering him, and

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Speaker 2: there was also a conversation of does he even make

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Speaker 2: it out of spring training with this team? The fact

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Speaker 2: that he has no options means he has to start

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Speaker 2: the year on the major league team. If he doesn't,

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Speaker 2: he gets dfayed, he's going through waivers and then you're

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Speaker 2: gonna lose him. So being able to flip a guy

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Speaker 2: who relatively speaking, doesn't have value to twenty eight of

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Speaker 2: thirty teams in Major League Baseball right now for a

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Speaker 2: guy who could be a game changer is incredible. Like

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Speaker 2: Truman PAULI is the true beast, probably.

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Speaker 1: One hundred percent of Trooper, I ain't. Truman Paul kind

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Speaker 1: of like making waves around the pitching circles like, oh,

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Speaker 1: this guy could be the next Mets riser this year,

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Speaker 1: I think last.

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Speaker 2: And for the White Sox they go, We get rid

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Speaker 2: of twenty million dollars, we get rid of a guy

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Speaker 2: who's stunk for us the last few.

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Speaker 1: Years to be here very badly. Yeah, definitely didn't want

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Speaker 1: to be there. And now we got a guy who

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Speaker 1: maybe becomes a high leverage relieve at one point and

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Speaker 1: a middle infielder, a middle infielder who will play Major

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Speaker 1: League baseball for US this year, and you get Trueman.

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Speaker 1: Pali has enough pitches to get to starting caliber, his

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Speaker 1: command grades would have to really jump up a few

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Speaker 1: rungs to get there. But this is just you make

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Speaker 1: this trade every time. There's also probably a conversation in

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Speaker 1: the Mets world where you look around you're like, all right,

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Speaker 1: this by the end of this season, if Jet Williams

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Speaker 1: is not traded, he has to be added to twenty

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Speaker 1: to forty man roster. Anyway, Yeah, at some point mid

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Speaker 1: season if like we signed now some veteran infield depth

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Speaker 1: Jet Williams just happens to get that shot, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean. Like, I'm sure a guy like Wyatt Young,

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Speaker 1: who's Rule five eligible this year, got through the Rule

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Speaker 1: five draft, like he could play defensively around the infield.

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Speaker 1: He's a left handed bat like you could probably be.

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't know how much worse he is

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Speaker 1: than Louise hen Helocunya and Louis Halocunia. I think was

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Speaker 1: definitely definitely significantly better defender. And that work this this

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Speaker 1: White Young time at twelve or four of the Mets

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Speaker 1: Up podcast. But you probably just had some guys in

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Speaker 1: the system that it's time. I mean, we just signed

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Speaker 1: sunk Check Chang this week. I think he can actually

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Speaker 1: mix in who chi cha, what are you talking about?

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Speaker 1: He can came from the pirates system. I think it

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Speaker 1: was the Taiwanese. I think he was the Tiger system

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Speaker 1: before that. No, it's just a pirate system. I don't

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Speaker 1: think we're thinking of hey, you Lee. Yeah, I was

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Speaker 1: thinking about you Lee, but he would sunk. Chi Chang

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Speaker 1: was Taiwanese. We had a couple like this is crazy.

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Speaker 1: He had a couple of decent moments in the Pirate system,

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Speaker 1: like he could just play around the diamond like we

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Speaker 1: got g Wanbe. I mean, I don't really want to

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Speaker 1: see that guy in the league, But like Chi Chang

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Speaker 1: is he he's got big time speed. He could definitely

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Speaker 1: handle middland field defensively. So again, like you have options

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Speaker 1: to be this kind of Luisky your mate type player

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Speaker 1: to be the backup infielder around and Louis Lacuney is

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Speaker 1: a great defender. I think he could be a good

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Speaker 1: defender in the league second basement at least for sure.

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Speaker 1: He bowed the ball in the vends when I went

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Speaker 1: to the league in center field this past week, where

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Speaker 1: he's also just hitting like Barry Bonds. But he's not

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Speaker 1: a player that you are upset about giving up on

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Speaker 1: the twenty six man roster, especially with no there's there's

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Speaker 1: just no room for him. There's no room for Roim

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Speaker 1: on this Mets team.

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Speaker 2: Let's see what Ronnie Mauricio has got, because we also

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Speaker 2: got to figure out what he's got to considering this

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Speaker 2: is the last year with an option for him. We'll see,

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Speaker 2: we'll figure it out. But boy, oh boy, am I

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Speaker 2: excited again. Apologies for maybe not being as giddy as

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Speaker 2: I could be. It is late and this apartment is

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Speaker 2: small that I'm sure with my family, so I'm not

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Speaker 2: trying to keep them awake by screaming. But oh, I'm

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Speaker 2: pumped in the car again.

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Speaker 1: I let out it. Let's fucking go. We got Luis

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Speaker 1: Robert and everybody in the car was like, Okay, sure, sure, yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: all right, relax big man. But it's just I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is just fun. And again like it's like the

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Speaker 1: White Sexers definitely didn't want to pay that money, which

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Speaker 1: we kind of knew the whole time, going back to

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Speaker 1: the trade deadline. They probably overplayed their hand by not

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Speaker 1: moving him last year the trade of the line and

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Speaker 1: just didn't want to go into the season with those

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Speaker 1: twenty million their books. That's perfect. And now he's in

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Speaker 1: New York Met can't wait. Guys, that's the episode. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for listening, Thanks for watching.

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Speaker 1: I'm draft neck Mark. Thank you guys for listening, Thank

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Speaker 1: you for watching. We'll catch you on the next one.

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