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Speaker 1: It is the best of two pros and a couple.

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Speaker 1: Joe with Lamar Rings and rating Win and Jonas Knox

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Speaker 1: on radio.

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Speaker 2: Good Morning, how we feeling?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 4: What are they watching on TV? Whose Day? Lorena Coop? Uh,

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to throw lee in on it, but god,

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Speaker 4: what is you should?

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Speaker 5: All right?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean Big Ben has to see it on

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Speaker 4: very disturbing television.

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Speaker 2: There's lots going on on that TV. It's like, uh,

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Speaker 2: I mean, what are y'all watching? Man, Let's find out.

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Speaker 5: I mean it looks like a rob zombie movie.

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Speaker 2: I think like a House of a Thousand Corpses or

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Speaker 2: something like that. That joint was called what you guys like, Godzilla? Godzilla?

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Speaker 5: Black Zilla? Good morning everyone?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good morning. Stix is back. Welcome back, Snicks. Hello,

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Speaker 2: He's back, all right?

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Speaker 5: Hello all?

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Speaker 2: And Baker Mayfield's back too.

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Speaker 5: All right?

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Speaker 2: Then, damn Baker Mayfield.

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Speaker 5: Tampa Bay is back.

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Speaker 2: When when there's a play to be made, just leave

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Speaker 2: it in the hands or the feet of Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 2: on a fourth down to continue a drive as Tampa

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Speaker 2: Bay wins it on the road and screws you know,

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Speaker 2: some people who had Houston minus two and a half

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Speaker 2: with that, with that, but then we money lined them.

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Speaker 6: Well, they were favorited so that it's not possible though,

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Speaker 6: Lee Lee did put that in there. He made sure

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Speaker 6: you allowed to money line. Yeah, so what was their favorite?

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Speaker 6: You can't bully lot them.

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Speaker 5: Houston wasn't were they? Yeah, they're at Hope. They're favored

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Speaker 5: by two and a half.

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Speaker 4: I thought it was the bucks the bucket game, but Lee, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I was wrong.

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Speaker 5: I don't Lease tipped the bottle back a little bit. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: Lee definitely said. Lee's like, yeah, buddy, I'll put you

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Speaker 5: definitely bundy line for Houston.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, buddy, Lee's being outsmarted by the technology that's in

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Speaker 4: front of him.

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Speaker 5: And so.

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Speaker 2: No, he's Lee's got this down like he's a master.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot going on here streaming wise, with all

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Speaker 2: the different gadgets and whatnot, and uh Lee Lee has

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Speaker 2: figured this whole thing out, like he's got it set

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Speaker 2: up and.

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Speaker 5: We are we are good to go five minutes into

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Speaker 5: the show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's better than ten. And also, it's hard

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Speaker 2: to work when you've.

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Speaker 4: Got always try to find a positive.

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Speaker 2: It's hard to work when you've got you know, different

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Speaker 2: orgies and a church scene on a TV in the

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Speaker 4: There's a lot, a lot that's happening here, But seems

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Speaker 4: as though they thought that that would be the end

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Speaker 4: of the movie. After the big orgy and him was

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Speaker 4: hit some tidy white. He's had the way up his

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Speaker 4: ass with his strap and in the front wise alleviating

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Speaker 4: himself for the for the morning.

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Speaker 2: Can I ask you something, is the safety on that

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Speaker 2: uh yeah, that gap that you've got right there? Okay,

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Speaker 2: because you set that thing down and it's.

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Speaker 4: Like, I'll use it like his live Yeah, well then

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Speaker 4: you should always assume it all. Shouts out the buddy

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Speaker 4: that I gave a jumpstart to this morning too. I

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Speaker 4: made it in on time. I told him I couldn't

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Speaker 4: help him because I had to get in and do radio.

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Speaker 4: He's like, hey, you know what radio station? He's like, man,

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Speaker 4: you know Fox Sports Radio. He's like, okay, was he Canadian?

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Speaker 5: No? No? What was he?

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Speaker 7: Oh?

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Speaker 2: By the way, happy Mexican Independence, State of you guys

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Speaker 2: for my family to yours.

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Speaker 5: I thought that was bo no no, no, no.

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Speaker 2: Tank about Mexico.

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Speaker 5: Mexico.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Jared Jerry. Jerry's partying this week. He feels

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Speaker 4: good for one week he's got a kicker, that's for certain.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Golden Domer.

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Speaker 5: By the way, how about it Brandon Aubrey kick.

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Speaker 2: So that being said, uh, last night's game Tampa Bay

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Speaker 2: Tampa Bay's better than I thought they'd be and a

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Speaker 5: You didn't think Tampa was going to be good?

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Speaker 2: I just I picked Atlanta to win that division. He did, so, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: did you pick or Tampa?

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Speaker 5: You went with Tampa? Right? I had Tampa.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I got Tampa winning it easily. The team

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Speaker 6: try to stay away from Jonas's advice.

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Speaker 4: You know, I did think that Tech the Texans would

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Speaker 5: They dropped to in a row. I thought that they

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Speaker 4: They were at home like that a really big victory

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Speaker 4: at least win at home. Even though I think Tampa

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Speaker 4: Bay is a good team, I just thought that Detexans

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Speaker 4: terms of Tampa what they are. My biggest question coming

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Speaker 4: out of that game is what is what are the Texans?

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Speaker 5: I'm not sure.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they they were a double digit win team

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Speaker 4: a year ago and made it to the playoffs, and

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Speaker 4: I mean they were competitive in that game. They I

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Speaker 4: think I believe they lost in the first round, right,

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Speaker 4: but I mean I thought that they were pretty competitive.

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Speaker 2: The argers so they went to they I mean.

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Speaker 4: So they just didn't look as good last year as

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Maybe they're trending down, but I feel like it's too

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Speaker 4: early to come to that conclusion. But and they could

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Speaker 4: have won the game. I mean, they kind of had

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Speaker 4: the game one, they did have it, and then they didn't.

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Speaker 2: Their their old lines a little bit leaves a little

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Speaker 2: bit to be desired. Still trying to figure out why

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Speaker 5: They can't run the football.

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Speaker 6: I mean, if you look at some of the teams

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Speaker 6: a seblance of a run game. Yeah, if you can't

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Speaker 4: Right though, Yeah, I mean running does win championships. Got

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Speaker 4: to have a backfield, even though they've desensitized people to

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Speaker 4: the run game into running backs. Your boy looked pretty

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Speaker 4: good last night from uh the Raiders?

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Speaker 5: His name? Oh am I blanking or Crosby.

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Speaker 4: No, that's the end o the running back the rookie

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Speaker 4: gent gent asketon gent here you go.

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Speaker 2: He didn't look bad. Why are they playing?

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Speaker 4: More like they take him out for like put him

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Speaker 6: I don't think they put him in much for the

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Speaker 2: So uh, well, we do know that Baker Mayfield very

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Speaker 2: fired up following another road win for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

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Speaker 2: That's two on the road, two or no to start

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Speaker 2: the year. Yeah, and uh an old Baker Mayfield, mister

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Speaker 2: not good enough to be a Cleveland Brown.

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Speaker 4: The Cleveland Browns ain't good enough to be Cleveland Brown. Jeez,

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Speaker 4: I do love that on a two minute drill.

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Speaker 6: He has to like save time to talk trash after

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Speaker 6: he runs for a first out. There's there's like, you know,

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Speaker 6: it's great. It's like every single drive he's got to

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Speaker 6: save about eight seconds to talk trash when he gets up.

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Speaker 5: It's awesome. CJ. Gardner.

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Speaker 2: Johnson gets into a skirmish or some sort of an

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Speaker 2: altercation every game he's played in his NFL career, and

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Speaker 2: it doesn't matter what team, it doesn't matter where he goes.

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Speaker 2: Every single game there's some sort of an altercation with him.

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Speaker 5: How do you think that is?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. He just and there was when he

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Speaker 2: he won a Super Bowl with Philly and was taking

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Speaker 2: he was the guy who was wearing the T shirt

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Speaker 2: talking about Taylor Swift after the Eagles won last.

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Speaker 5: Year, taking shots at Casey.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah he does, but he takes shot shots at everybody.

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Speaker 4: So he took shots at his own team equal opportunity.

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Speaker 2: He just sees he's going at everybody, and so last

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Speaker 5: They called the cab bed.

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Speaker 2: Okay, anybody can get it, that's all right, But here

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Speaker 2: was here was Baker post game.

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Speaker 8: In these two minute close games, we were not on

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Speaker 8: the right side of things for the past couple of years,

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Speaker 8: and it's good to see that we haven't even played

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Speaker 8: we're still finding ways to win on the road. And

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Speaker 8: that's that's really important, is to not count lose sight

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Speaker 8: of that we're finding ways to win. But also we

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Speaker 8: We can make it easier on ourselves and try and

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Speaker 8: put teams a way earlier. But that this is a

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Speaker 8: good team that we played, so it's we expected a

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Speaker 8: hard fought battle. But yeah, it's it's nice to be

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Speaker 2: So two and zero two home games coming up next.

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Speaker 2: They got the Jets in the Eagles, both in Tampa Bay,

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Speaker 2: and so things are at least looking like they're heading

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Speaker 2: maybe maybe one of those sleeper teams outside Philadelphia.

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Speaker 5: That could be making some noise in the NFC, which.

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Speaker 2: At this point outside in Philadelphia, I would say, maybe

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Speaker 2: what the Rams, the Bucks, Like, there's some teams within

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Speaker 2: you know, with with Jayden Daniels and whatnot. But it

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Speaker 2: feels like Philly, Green Bay, Tampa, like those are the

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Speaker 2: probably be making noise later in the year in the NFC,

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Speaker 2: at least.

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Speaker 5: I don't. I don't feel like Tampa is a super

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Speaker 5: Bowl team super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 5: I feel like they're good, but super Bowl I don't.

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Speaker 4: I think there's like a next level of good that's

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Speaker 4: from Tampa.

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Speaker 5: What are they missing that makes you say that, I.

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Speaker 4: Don't know they I mean they, I mean it might be,

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Speaker 4: it might be a combination of things, culmination. I'm not

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Speaker 4: you're going to have to be creative and the things

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Speaker 6: My take on it, at least may have a different

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Speaker 6: I do think they missed some of those pieces people

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Speaker 6: it's not gonna be the clean pockets he end in college.

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Speaker 6: It's not gonna be you know, a lot of what

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Speaker 6: I just don't see Anianapolis maintaining what they're doing. But uh,

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Speaker 6: But they've got to establish a run game at sub point.

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Speaker 6: You know, you you can't. You can't keep making this

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Speaker 5: To allow a.

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Speaker 4: Late heroic touchdown at the end of the game doesn't

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Speaker 5: I just.

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Speaker 4: I don't know when you got when you have so

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Speaker 6: They had a lot of time though, I mean they

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Speaker 3: And.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it. I still think that if you have.

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Speaker 6: If you have four stoppages and four downs, that that's

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Speaker 4: I still think that that's that's to the favor of

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Speaker 5: That's what I'd like to believe. I mean, now, that's

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Speaker 5: they made it look like we are.

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Speaker 6: They made it a rule changes to man on top

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm looking forward to the rule change that said, yep,

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Speaker 5: What do you mean he's that old cat defensive Uh,

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Speaker 4: I've seen so many horrible non calls on lineman. Linemen

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, they are running. They are running a

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Speaker 4: you do. I seen and one dude on a run

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Speaker 4: front of the referees. I mean, bro, I don't even

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Speaker 4: know what you call that.

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Speaker 2: That's not it.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you could call a hold, but it was.

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Speaker 4: It was so it was so much worse than just.

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Speaker 2: Do you think the official Saunder is like, you know what?

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Speaker 5: You see it every play though.

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Speaker 4: I'm telling you, dudes be getting grabbed up, i mean

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Speaker 4: as important, Like, ah, you guys are good. You could

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Speaker 4: We gotta sit with the offense. They got a few

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Speaker 4: more rules we got to go over. Yeah, a lot

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Speaker 5: Will take care of you.

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Speaker 4: If you need to run the game, you need to

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Speaker 5: Okay, we're good here.

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Speaker 4: Okay, good you guys, go get your food, go break

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Speaker 4: down meetings now too. There you go, boom done telling

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Speaker 2: So that Yeah, that's that old.

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Speaker 5: School, old head.

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Speaker 6: I wish we could hear you out there too, that

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Speaker 6: All right, come on down, boys, we got this, We

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Speaker 5: This this is our favorite.

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Speaker 6: They gotta throw while Baker be across the lines laughing

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Speaker 4: I gotta be sitting there like we're gonna hit this

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be looking over here.

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Speaker 4: There's there's strong side there it is, there's here's where

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Speaker 5: Want to go. Watch the slant on the backside. Watch

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I'm gonna be looking at him and be

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Speaker 5: N word up your ass. That's what you can you know,

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Speaker 4: I'll be sitting there and you know what, I would

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Speaker 4: what are you running that fast for? He's already he's

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Speaker 4: lot of times they run so hard and so fast, like, oh,

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Speaker 4: I'm getting a blitz. I get the blitz, and they

444
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Speaker 4: run so hard and they run so fast, Like, Bro,

445
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Speaker 4: you're smaller than the dude you're running up on first

446
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Speaker 4: and foremost, Like, don't run in there like that. Slow

447
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Speaker 4: your feet down and get a hold of his arms. Like,

448
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Speaker 4: even if you're not strong enough to just get him

449
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Speaker 4: down to the ground, you getting a hold of him

450
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Speaker 4: is going to help the defense. Somebody is going to

451
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Speaker 4: help you get them down. Don't miss them. You got

452
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Speaker 4: one job to do. Run and get the quarterback and

453
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Speaker 4: don't miss them. Weird, man, I was so upset.

454
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Speaker 2: That was so upset. I was upset for Tampa.

455
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Speaker 4: I was upset, I mean not for Tampa, for for

456
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Speaker 4: for the Texans. I was so upset that Blitzer just

457
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Speaker 4: going to just drop on the ground.

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Speaker 6: Were you more upset about the money line that I

459
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Speaker 6: did have?

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Speaker 5: Lee? What is it? Do you have the list? We

461
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Speaker 5: called the games?

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Speaker 2: What what and a half? And I did money line

463
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Speaker 2: in it? Right?

464
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Speaker 5: You can't money light a favorite.

465
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Speaker 4: Right, But I must have got it the wrong way,

466
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Speaker 4: because on everything, I felt like I picked the Texans

467
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Speaker 4: the way.

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Speaker 6: The worst part is that allowed you to have it,

469
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Speaker 6: you know. He was probably a couple of beers back.

470
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Speaker 2: Hey, but I was on the road, so it was

471
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Speaker 2: I was a little distracted. But yeah, you're right, trull

472
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Speaker 2: on the road. What do you mean you're on the road.

473
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Speaker 10: I was driving, well, I think I was driving or something.

474
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,159
Speaker 10: I was making my way somewhere and I was like, oh,

475
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Speaker 10: I gotta get Vard.

476
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Speaker 5: I can't remember something that happened twenty four hours ago.

477
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Speaker 2: I was on the road.

478
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Speaker 5: I'm telling you.

479
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Speaker 10: I was on the road, and I remember I had

480
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Speaker 10: to text Bar. I was like, oh, yeah, the game starts.

481
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Speaker 10: I gotta get VARs picks before kick off. So I

482
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Speaker 10: texted him and I just.

483
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Speaker 2: Marked definitely said Texans money line. Yeah, correcting that right now.

484
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Speaker 2: That whole money line thing is completely thrown a wrench

485
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Speaker 2: and it totally has Yeah, the integrity is gone.

486
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Speaker 5: Is that just because ja?

487
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Hey, let me tell you my school at all.

488
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Speaker 4: Hey, you ain't got no tooth chipping ability and you're

489
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Speaker 4: in your repertoire.

490
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Speaker 2: We get to break, you'll find out what a sissy is.

491
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Speaker 2: I tell you that right now.

492
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Speaker 5: What does that mean? Forward? Whoop your ass quick? No,

493
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Speaker 5: that ain't happening.

494
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Speaker 4: Oh you see that. You see that horns right there.

495
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 4: You said you want to see if it's on safety

496
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Speaker 4: or on active. All right, go ahead. If you're feeling froggy,

497
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Speaker 4: wyn't you jump?

498
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Speaker 2: Try me if you want to. You do know you've

499
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Speaker 2: threatened me on air.

500
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 5: Now.

501
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Speaker 4: So if I bust a cap in your ass right now,

502
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 4: it's it's legit, it's legal.

503
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Speaker 5: I bought tea var I'm out here for this hostility. Yeah,

504
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Speaker 5: what are you doing?

505
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Speaker 2: It's messed up man.

506
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Speaker 5: Well that's why I carry this joint that counts a

507
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,680
Speaker 5: pick against the spread? Is that what that was? Yes?

508
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Speaker 2: Pick against the thread?

509
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Speaker 5: Man.

510
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Speaker 2: You guys have ruined it by the way.

511
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Speaker 10: Sure, off you gotta you gotta look at all the

512
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Speaker 10: all the money lines. That's why it's off. That's why

513
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Speaker 10: it looks so many.

514
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Speaker 5: He doesn't lose more points.

515
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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, we decided.

516
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Speaker 4: So this was the new rule that we decided on

517
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Speaker 4: is if you can get two points for for money

518
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Speaker 4: you get, you get what you lose one for losing.

519
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Speaker 2: Told you you lose one.

520
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Speaker 5: For losing, Well, you you always lost one.

521
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Speaker 4: Well you don't. If you don't gain anything, you don't

522
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 4: gain anything. You so you win to you lose one,

523
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Speaker 4: you lose.

524
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Speaker 5: It's always how it was?

525
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Speaker 2: No, yes, is like any other loss?

526
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Speaker 5: What do you mean how anything?

527
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Speaker 10: It's worth two if you put money line, it's worth too,

528
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Speaker 10: whether it's a win or a loss.

529
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Speaker 4: Yeah, but we said if you lose, you lose one.

530
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Speaker 4: If you lose, you just don't get one. You're you're

531
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Speaker 4: stuck where you're at, Like, I chose two games, I

532
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 4: get one right, one wrong, instead of it being one

533
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Speaker 4: and one.

534
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Speaker 5: You're like, you lose more the points right, it's the points.

535
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Speaker 2: You guys have mudded the waters.

536
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Speaker 6: I feel confessed. It's not that complicated. I understand what

537
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Speaker 6: we're trying to say. The part is not saying right.

538
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not. I didn't say it right.

539
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Speaker 4: You're not supposed to lose a point for not getting

540
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Speaker 4: a pick right.

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Speaker 5: You just didn't get it right. Right. Oh, you still

542
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Speaker 5: lose a point.

543
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Speaker 2: You still lose a point.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Okay, goes the l column.

545
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Speaker 4: You're right, it goes into al cars when you just

546
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Speaker 4: too right.

547
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:02,959
Speaker 5: That's why. Yeah, exactly.

548
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Speaker 2: I'm not pitching about anything. I told you guys you

549
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 2: were mudding the waters by adding money.

550
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Speaker 5: You're losing right now your last place.

551
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Speaker 4: Hey ran them money line too, by the way, you

552
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Speaker 4: wow while we're at it. Just so, since we're outing

553
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,640
Speaker 4: people right now, you money lined the game like.

554
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Speaker 2: Oh knocks, Well let me change mine, you Jack Squad.

555
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:24,959
Speaker 2: I gotta say I didn't money line anything.

556
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Speaker 4: We just talked for half an hour. I mean we

557
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Speaker 4: should be on satellite radio. Oh god, my gosh, well,

558
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Speaker 4: holy smokes.

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Speaker 2: All Right, we got problems in the NFL. We got injuries.

572
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 2: The war of attrition has started, in particular at the

573
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Speaker 2: quarterback position around the National Football League, real problems, most

574
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Speaker 2: notably Joe Burrow. He is going to have surgery on

575
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Speaker 2: his toe issue, his turf toe that he suffered a

576
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Speaker 2: Grade three I believe it is. It looks like he's

577
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Speaker 2: going to miss three months. Depending on where they're at

578
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Speaker 2: in the season, maybe this is a season ender for

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow. Here was the head coach of the Bengals,

580
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 2: Zach Taylor, talking about their situation.

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Speaker 5: That we're two and oh.

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Speaker 13: We got a lot of great energy right now. There's

583
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Speaker 13: a lot of things that we can clean up with

584
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 13: our football team that would be better going forward. We

585
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 13: have not put our best foot forward yet and so

586
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Speaker 13: that's what's exciting is that we found a way to

587
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 13: be and oh right now, and we still haven't even

588
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 13: played our best best football collectively.

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Speaker 2: So did they not give him the update on Joe

590
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Speaker 2: Burrow when he did that?

591
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Speaker 5: In ye, he was aware.

592
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Speaker 2: He's got it. He's got to keep it optimistic though,

593
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 2: you know, it's got to give him hope. Okay, I

594
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 2: mean you haven't put your best foot forward?

595
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Speaker 4: Was that was he like? Was that cat? Was he

596
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 4: giving a little bit of uh what's that called? Uh? Yeah,

597
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Speaker 4: I mean like Joe Burrow hurt his foot you're talking

598
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Speaker 4: about we haven't put our best foot forward yet.

599
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Speaker 2: Well, oh, you think he's taking a shot at him.

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Speaker 5: No, he's not taking a shot.

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Speaker 4: I just thought it was coincidental that he would use

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Speaker 4: that as the catchphrase of what he was saying.

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Speaker 2: It seems like if they haven't played their best football yet,

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Speaker 2: it seems like it would be hard to play their

605
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Speaker 2: best football without Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 4: There, You're not going to play your best football without

607
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Speaker 4: Joe Burrow. I think that's the point.

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Speaker 6: Well, I think we know that. The question is more

609
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Speaker 6: is the team though? Can they step up out around

610
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 6: the quarterback position? And that's all parties involved? I mean,

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Speaker 6: is there you know, anyone else who's going to show

612
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Speaker 6: out too?

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Speaker 5: Not just the team? You know, for these upcoming games.

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Speaker 5: It's a great opportunity for whoever gets it. But I

615
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,719
Speaker 5: think it's an all snow At outfit.

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Speaker 4: It's a very very tall task, very very high heel

617
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Speaker 4: to climb. Whoever gets it. That's what I say. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I don't know, man, I don't know. As you got

619
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Speaker 4: a lot of fire power there, I mean, you gotta believe.

620
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Speaker 4: I mean, there is this thing called the backup quarterback.

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Speaker 4: When you have a backup, the backup is considered to

622
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Speaker 4: be the person that should be next up and should

623
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Speaker 4: be used in situations where a guy gets injured, like

624
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Speaker 4: that's why you get a backup. You don't have them

625
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Speaker 4: for many other reasons. So I just wonder are they

626
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Speaker 4: going to to try to find somebody on the market

627
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 4: and bring them in or are they going to trust

628
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Speaker 4: that the backup has has the ability to be able

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Speaker 4: to lead them. Either way, I think that this is

630
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Speaker 4: totally a handicapping of their season. I mean, they weren't

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Speaker 4: good when he was injured before. I don't suspect that

632
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Speaker 4: they're going to be good with them being injured now.

633
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Speaker 4: I mean not talk about losing the catalysts of why

634
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Speaker 4: you're good. That's just that's a devastating blow if you're

635
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Speaker 4: a Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 5: I still think he's they got a shot, you know.

637
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Speaker 6: I still think if Jay Brown could do some of

638
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Speaker 6: the things we've seen him, do you know some of

639
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Speaker 6: the things can be he's been able to pull off

640
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Speaker 6: in his life.

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Speaker 5: I think he's got a shot.

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Speaker 2: I really do, Okay, I mean, if they're in contention

643
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Speaker 2: and it's week seventeen, and that's about what we're looking

644
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Speaker 2: at here.

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Speaker 4: I mean, maybe for no reason to bring him back.

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Speaker 4: If he's going to be out that long, there's no

647
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Speaker 4: reason to bring him back.

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Speaker 2: But you would have a couple of weeks and then

649
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Speaker 2: the playoffs if they make the playoffs, and and all

650
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Speaker 2: of a sudden, now you get Joe Burrow back for

651
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Speaker 2: a potential playoff round. Like there's a chance they just

652
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 2: have to tread water and just survive in.

653
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Speaker 4: Advance in these games until then. I don't see it

654
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Speaker 4: that way. I think that's your your franchise guy. If

655
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Speaker 4: he has an injury that's going to keep him out

656
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Speaker 4: literally the entire regular season, the entire season you got

657
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Speaker 4: you just got to make a tough choice here, And

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Speaker 4: to me, I think that airing on the side of

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Speaker 4: of of caution versus trying to rush him back, which

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Speaker 4: it would be considered a rush if it took the

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Speaker 4: entire season for him to come back. But again, if

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Speaker 4: you're good enough to make it that far. Why why

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Speaker 4: what are y'all doing?

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Speaker 5: Man?

665
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Speaker 2: Just why why would you just just researching?

666
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 5: No reason for him to be in a rush back?

667
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 2: No, that here's researching Jake Browning And oh that's what

668
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 2: JB means.

669
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 4: Okay, I think he's more than qualified to be the

670
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 4: backup if you ask me and listen. He knows how

671
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 4: to complete a pass. That's that much is clear. So

672
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 4: let's talk more about JB versus uh the other JB.

673
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 4: I guess let's switch JB's because he clearly knows how

674
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 4: to get the ball downfield.

675
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I'm with you and all the way with you,

676
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 2: and I just think that's really the professional approach that

677
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 2: should be taken here is is what do we uh

678
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 2: you know, what do we make up their chances to

679
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 2: uh to continue on?

680
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 5: Uh bless.

681
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 2: Kind of bless you, sir. Elsewhere, the Minnesota Vikings and

682
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell uh did have it an now smith on

683
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 2: their quarterback JJ McCarthy, who struggled the early portion of

684
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 2: his debut against the Bears on Monday night. He struggled

685
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 2: last week or this past Sunday night against the Falcons,

686
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 2: And now it looks like JJ McCarthy is going to

687
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 2: miss some time. Here was Kevin O'Connell's head coach explaining

688
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 2: it away.

689
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 3: I would anticipate we are not planning on having him

690
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 3: for Sunday and don't likely see this being any kind

691
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 3: of short term I are thing, but I do want

692
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 3: to see and Tyler and the group want to see

693
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 3: how he responds, you know, to treatment this week.

694
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 2: So Carson Wentz step right up. There's your backup in

695
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 2: Minnesota for the bikes to get an opportunity to work

696
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 2: underneath the Kevin O'Connell as JJ McCarthy's going to miss

697
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 2: two to four weeks.

698
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 4: He wasn't setting the world on fire, but I mean

699
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 4: he's going to lose valuable time to build experience to

700
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 4: see if they can make a run of it. Yeah,

701
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 4: you know, they might even be better with Carson Wentz

702
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 4: in there. To be honest with you, you know, you

703
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 4: never know, but go, I'll let you out defer to

704
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 4: you on Well.

705
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 5: It's interesting.

706
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 6: So when prisc goes on yesterday, are you know he

707
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:09,720
Speaker 6: has this whole yah?

708
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 5: What yah? Yeah? These quoting they just provot back to

709
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 5: who they are.

710
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,320
Speaker 6: So my thing is that that doesn't make it fun

711
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 6: like that doesn't make it fun for a great story.

712
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 6: And also it's ignorant to the fact that you know,

713
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 6: every quarterback you'd say they are what they are, but

714
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 6: they could be something greater than what you think if

715
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 6: they're in a good system and a good situation. You know,

716
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 6: and you can have callus head coaches I've talked to,

717
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 6: we always talked about this. The situation circumstance you enter

718
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:47,839
Speaker 6: into largely dictates your career more so than everything else,

719
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 6: more so than talent, more so than.

720
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 5: Coach, more so than all that.

721
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 6: So if you go to a good organization, you're gonna

722
00:34:56,040 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 6: have a better shot of showcase yourself. Now, Carson Wentz

723
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 6: initially went to a good organization, he played at times

724
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 6: as an MVP before getting hurt, and a team that

725
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 6: went on to win a Super Bowl.

726
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 5: You know.

727
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 6: Unfortunately, they you know, went their separate ways and he's

728
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 6: been kind of trying to find himself since then. This

729
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 6: is that opportunity. He's on a really good team, a

730
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,240
Speaker 6: team that I think we'd all say is a playoff

731
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 6: caliber team. Maybe what with the right quarterback play that

732
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 6: could go to Super Bowl. You know, you look at

733
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 6: Mac Jones, We talked about how well, how good he looked,

734
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 6: and you know, people can try to say and didn't

735
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 6: defend brock Purty, all they want if mac Jones goes

736
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 6: in there and plays exactly how brock Purty has. The

737
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 6: only thing that tells us is, you know, maybe they

738
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 6: people were off on brock party and where they were

739
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 6: drafting him, you know. But also it tells us a

740
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 6: little bit about the fact that it's a Kyle Shanahan system.

741
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 6: They have talent there. He'll allow that quarterback to go

742
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,760
Speaker 6: have success and be able to you know, have success

743
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 6: where really, mac Jones has only been in one one

744
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 6: year one situation in New England where he was able

745
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 6: to play the way people thought he was capable of.

746
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:00,439
Speaker 5: He was a Pro Bowl that year.

747
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 6: So I know a lot of people are here for

748
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:11,240
Speaker 6: the backup, you know, uh, resurrection of other guy's careers.

749
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 5: But I love what Daniel Jones is doing right now.

750
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 6: Tuinoh so far ball it out like that's a fun storyline,

751
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 6: you know. I love seeing Baker Mayfield have the success

752
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 6: that he's having right now.

753
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 5: It's awesome.

754
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 6: So I'm not sure why more people don't roof for it.

755
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 6: But that's really what's on the table. Now, not that

756
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 6: Jake Brownie was drafted to be that. You know, he's

757
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 6: kind of good in that backup situation. But look, the

758
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 6: young man go in and play. He was prolific during

759
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,280
Speaker 6: his time of Washington. He's a smart player, he's accurate,

760
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 6: like he could do this. So I'm excited to see

761
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 6: what all these guys.

762
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:43,240
Speaker 5: Have in store.

763
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I don't know if if I'm if

764
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 2: I'm Minnesota, if I'm if I'm Carson Wentz, and I've

765
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 2: got an opportunity to make a run and get this

766
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 2: chance again like we were talking about yesterday, Yeah take it,

767
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 2: you know, do as well as you can. And if

768
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 2: you're if you're Kevin O'Connell, based on what you've seen

769
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 2: from JJ McCarthy, why rush him out there at less

770
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 2: than one hundred percent, you know, maybe give him a chance,

771
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 2: process it, get fully healthy, and then see what you've

772
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 2: got with him. Chris Collinsworth was making the point the

773
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 2: other night that you can tell Justin Jefferson, you know,

774
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 2: maybe he's getting a little frustrated with where they're at

775
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 2: with things, but this should have been expected with a

776
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 2: young quarterback who's going to come in and take the reins.

777
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 2: And when people are thrown out the idea of well,

778
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 2: if JJ McCarthy's going to miss time, maybe you just

779
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 2: go to Kirk Cousins. No, like, let's see what Carson

780
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 2: Wentz has got. Let's see Carson Wentz get an opportunity

781
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 2: to to sling it around a little bit. And if

782
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 2: you're if you're Cincinnati, there's reportedly them looking at veteran quarterbacks,

783
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,280
Speaker 2: maybe they would try and add somebody. I saw Malik

784
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 2: Willis's name was out there as a potential candidate as

785
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 2: well too, So you are you already Kirk Cousins can

786
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:55,959
Speaker 2: figure out a way to get back.

787
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 5: I just Jameis Winston.

788
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 6: He's a name that's been kind of talked about in

789
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 6: some trade talks.

790
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 5: Come save me please. But if your cousin's getting paid

791
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 5: too much, that's his issue.

792
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. But if you're one of these teams that's looking

793
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 2: at these other organizations who are now dealing with this,

794
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 2: if you're Atlanta, you probably feel pretty good that that's

795
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 2: your backup. Like if something happens to Michael Pennick, you're

796
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 2: looking at it going all right, well we'll eat the

797
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 2: ten million dollars we did when we had to pick

798
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 2: up his roster bonus, and then we'll just if something

799
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 2: happens God forbid and we feel like we're still in contention,

800
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 2: we'll throw Kirk Cousins in there and feel good about things.

801
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 2: The Jets have got justin Field, who's in concussion protocol.

802
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 2: The one that's weird is the Jadeen Daniels because he's

803
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 2: got a knee issue but nobody knows what it is.

804
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 2: He's had an MRI, but nobody's reporting on exactly what.

805
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 2: They're just said, well you.

806
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 5: See the hit, Yeah, I love it. I love them

807
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 5: being able to keep it a secret. Good for them.

808
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it was a pretty nasty hit on him.

809
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 4: Well you hit him right on the knee.

810
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 2: And dan Quinn's just like, not really, you know, hey, listen,

811
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 2: it's a it's truly day to day. Here was the Commanders.

812
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 2: I almost said the R word there, by the way,

813
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 2: Damn Yeah. Here was the Commander's head coach dan Quinn

814
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 2: talking about the status of his young quarterback.

815
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 9: He did have an MRI and he has already begun

816
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:25,720
Speaker 9: his return to play process with us. He is truly

817
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 9: day to day. What does that mean for Sunday? I

818
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 9: can't tell you that now. I'll have more to share

819
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 9: on that when we get to Wednesday and practice and

820
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 9: what that would look like.

821
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 2: Enough, So what were the results of the imaging eh

822
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 2: day to day? Like nobody knows. Just sorry, that's that's

823
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 2: that's where we're at with everything. So you've now seen

824
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 2: multiple starting quarterbacks two weeks into the year go down,

825
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 2: some long term, some potentially short term. But war of

826
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 2: attrition has started boys long see.

827
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:57,919
Speaker 4: I feel like the way he reacted when he went

828
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 4: down the way his the way his leg kind of

829
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 4: like bent. I want to say, it's like, it's probably

830
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 4: a sprain and it's probably I'm assuming it's going to

831
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 4: be on the outside of his leg that's where he grabbed.

832
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 4: He grabbed like his like where his it band is

833
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 4: when it happened, I would assume it's a it's a

834
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 4: sprain and and it's probably an acl sprain. That's what

835
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 4: I would assume just off of what I saw. And listen,

836
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 4: I'm not a doctor, so take that with a grain

837
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 4: of salt. That's not a pick, it's just that's what

838
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 4: I think. That's what I think the injury is is

839
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 4: he's got a strain and and there when you have

840
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 4: those types of like when your need does that, like

841
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 4: when it bends like that, sometimes you can bruise it too,

842
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 4: you know, sometimes it could lead to a bruise. So

843
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 4: he could have a bruise and a strain, a sprain. No, no, no, no,

844
00:40:58,239 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 4: it's not a pick.

845
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just saying, you guys want it, don't you? No, no,

846
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 2: no sticks picks. Okay, you know somebody actually would run

847
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 2: with this because the way connection to the organization.

848
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 5: I don't have an attention to the organization, LeVar. Did

849
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 5: you know Lorena does voice work explaining a little bit

850
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 5: more detail. I mean, okay, so Lorena, play it.

851
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 2: This one? When's When's?

852
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 5: Yeah?

853
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 4: You know that now takes on an entire different level

854
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 4: of different level realizing that that is you don't it.

855
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 14: I thought you knew.

856
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 4: Today's year old today years old? With knowing that that,

857
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 4: do it one more time, Lorna.

858
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 2: When's whens? Can you hear it?

859
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 7: Now?

860
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 2: I don't know how to answer that, and so I

861
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 2: will not.

862
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 5: You can hear your voice at the end, I.

863
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 14: Think doesn't sound like me. All the rest of them,

864
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 14: I'm like, okay, yeah, I know I didn't record.

865
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 5: Well, how are we I think I think only you

866
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:31,399
Speaker 5: would know how you sound. Yikes. Ikes, I mean maybe

867
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:32,280
Speaker 5: maybe there's other.

868
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:37,919
Speaker 2: People what you say the back he said that last

869
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 2: one doesn't sound like you at all.

870
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 4: I thought, saying, maybe maybe it just doesn't with Lee, you.

871
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:53,359
Speaker 14: Know when's whens see that one sounds like someone else that.

872
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe it's just it's maybe the other guys it does.

873
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 2: I did recorded, so I know which one it is.

874
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 14: But yeah, we went in the back studio.

875
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 2: And recorded it. Oh my gosh, it gets it even

876
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 2: deeper this rabbit hole.

877
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 9: Ga.

878
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 2: So how did you produce those those sound effects?

879
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 5: Sounds pretty natural? No, I know exactly what her sounds are. Alright,

880
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 5: then just learn something new every day. I'm today's years old.

881
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 2: Knowing that they recorded it together.

882
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Speaker 14: In the studio, well, you know, Veto has to put

883
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 14: in the request.

884
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 2: How many takes did it did before?

885
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 5: How many minutes?

886
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 2: How many do you think that took?

887
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 5: Like one minute? Last than one minute?

888
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 2: Could you like, is it like, can you replicate that if.

889
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 4: You would have had a part in there at some

890
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 4: point that we would have known exactly what it was.

891
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 14: But the request was just to make some some you know,

892
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 14: noises and say Quinn's wins.

893
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you like, did it really well?

894
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:04,919
Speaker 7: Yeah?

895
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 5: I did?

896
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 2: Wait what did you? What did make that noise you

897
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 2: just made again? My ooh yeah that is see right there,

898
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 2: it really is confirmation. I could keep going. But you know,

899
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 2: I do appreciate I.

900
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 5: Do appreciate Lee. Oh that's not her? Whoa, Oh my god.

901
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 5: They brought in another guy for that part.

902
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 2: Oh what kind of file? Lee needed a stunt double?

903
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 5: Oh no?

904
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 4: Oh no, oh no, not Michael Jackson.

905
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 2: Oh there there it is, there it is.

906
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 5: Well, there goes the show. Take us the break.

907
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and

908
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 1: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and

909
00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 1: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three A Pacific.

910
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 2: And right now, we welcome in Dean Blandino, Fox Sports

911
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 2: NFL college football rules analysts. You can get them on

912
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,800
Speaker 2: x at Dean Blandino. Dean, good morning, How are we

913
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 2: feeling doing good?

914
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: Doing good?

915
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 8: How you guys doing good?

916
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 9: Man?

917
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 2: We're good. Now, we have it on good authority that

918
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 2: you're sick and tired of hearing about the tush push.

919
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 5: So what's the way is that?

920
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 2: What's what's going on, what's the Oh my god, Well,

921
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 2: what's bothering you, Dean.

922
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 7: I've gone on record, I don't love the play. Whatever

923
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 7: great Eagles are do it better than anybody else. They

924
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 7: work at it, they practice good for them. I'm just

925
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 7: you know, we had the game in Kansas City, obviously

926
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 7: Super Bowl rematch. This is like, this is the biggest

927
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 7: early game of the year so far, the two teams,

928
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 7: the whole deal, and we're watching quite frankly, just the

929
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 7: crappiest football play. We got false starts, we got all sides,

930
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 7: we got all kinds of crap on this play and

931
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 7: no calls and it's just not I just don't like it.

932
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 7: And finally just got set up and you know, I

933
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:06,720
Speaker 7: just said I'm done with the touch push guys.

934
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: That was it.

935
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 7: Tom Brady was like Brady was like giving me the

936
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 7: thumbs up. He's like yeah, he goes. He's like, you

937
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 7: tell him go. I'm like, yeah, I know, I know.

938
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 6: In all seriousness, it feels like, let's just go back

939
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 6: to the genesis of like why this play is even allowed.

940
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 5: So you guys did away with.

941
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 6: The whole you know, pushing an eighty runner because you

942
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:33,760
Speaker 6: feel like you could officiate it properly correct.

943
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what happened back in oh five, and so

944
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 7: this had been illegal forever and then there and it

945
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 7: wasn't it right. This play didn't exist, right, This didn't

946
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:47,439
Speaker 7: exist until the Eagles started doing it whenever twenty one

947
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 7: for what it was twenty two, and so there was

948
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Speaker 7: there was some plays, especially near the goal line, where

949
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 7: the runner would get hit stacked up and you've got

950
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 7: a big pile and the linemen are pushing both you know,

951
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,959
Speaker 7: defense is pushing, offense just pushing. And it was a

952
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 7: harder play to officiate, and you just never the officials

953
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Speaker 7: just didn't call it so and in hindsight it was

954
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 7: a mistake, like my in my view, it was a

955
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 7: mistake to take that out and it was fine until

956
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Speaker 7: until you know that now we get this play, which

957
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 7: is a pretty easy play to officiate. If you took

958
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 7: it out, you couldn't be pretty easy to say, Okay,

959
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:29,399
Speaker 7: you know they're they're pushing, it's a foul, and maybe look,

960
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 7: maybe they take it out in the off season. We'll

961
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 7: see and then teams do something else. You never know,

962
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 7: but it is yeah, you just you just never know

963
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 7: what's going to happen, but in hindsight, it was a

964
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 7: mistake to take that out.

965
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Speaker 4: Dan, I gotta ask this, and I know you know

966
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 4: the answer to it, because I've been around you when

967
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 4: you were in office and you were active and you

968
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Speaker 4: had your remote control as I always bring up, which

969
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 4: I thought is super crazy cool. Why are you guys,

970
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 4: why why do the decision makers allow the lineman to

971
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 4: run a muck? And I believe what I saw on

972
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 4: Sunday they are running way more a muck than what

973
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:16,320
Speaker 4: I've seen in prior years. Like I saw guys literally

974
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 4: beer hugging guys from behind, like the guy was about

975
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 4: to go make a play, the lineman puts his arms

976
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 4: around him, his arms and pulsing from behind. I've seen

977
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 4: some of the most. I mean, it's it's upsetting for

978
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 4: me as a defender. It's upsetting to see it. How

979
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 4: is this?

980
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 5: How is like?

981
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 4: What are the conversations with these referees in allowing these

982
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 4: linemen to just hold at basically any cost, any angle,

983
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 4: any anything, and it not get called.

984
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 7: Well, yeah, no, it's a great point. I do think

985
00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 7: in recent years there has been this push and they

986
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 7: won't come out and say it, but to to less flags, right,

987
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 7: and and and it's been and people think, oh, you know,

988
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 7: that was such a great game. There was no flags,

989
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 7: there was no and and and it and there's less stoppages,

990
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 7: which is good. But when you have that kind of

991
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 7: mindset and then you know, you know you played, you

992
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 7: know where, Okay, they're gonna let us play today, and

993
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 7: that's that. You know we're gonna let them play today.

994
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 7: You know you can probably push the envelope and get

995
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 7: away with a little more. And right now, that's what's happening. Okay,

996
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:36,399
Speaker 7: I'm not getting flag. Okay, I'm gonna try to gain

997
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 7: an advantage. And that's what's happening. And look, the gap

998
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 7: I don't think you guys probably know better than me,

999
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 7: but the gap between offensive line play and offensive linemen

1000
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 7: and the defensive line, I don't think it's ever been

1001
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 7: greater in terms of athleticism and everything else. And so

1002
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 7: they're already at they're already out of deficiency. And now

1003
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 7: you know they're they're they're doing their best to try

1004
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:00,760
Speaker 7: to you know, just just even the plane.

1005
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 4: So just go ahead, let them hold them because you're

1006
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 4: just not as an athletic guys, you can't and and that.

1007
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 7: And that's not right.

1008
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 5: Right.

1009
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 7: You said you got to call it when it's there.

1010
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 7: You got to call it because if you don't, it's

1011
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 7: just going to get worse and worse. And then that,

1012
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 7: you know, and then defensive players get frustrated, and then

1013
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 7: it turns into other stuff that you got to kind

1014
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,399
Speaker 7: of you got to handle one, and that's not good

1015
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 7: for the game either.

1016
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 2: Dean Blandino joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. It's

1017
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 2: Lebar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here, two

1018
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 2: pros and a cup of Joe on FSR. I do

1019
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:36,320
Speaker 2: want to ask you at the leveraging call that Denver

1020
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 2: got called for that ultimately led to the rekick in

1021
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:45,240
Speaker 2: Indianapolis winning that game. So what what is the rule?

1022
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 2: What was the infraction? You just you can't use the

1023
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 2: the person on the line to propel yourself. Is that

1024
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 2: basically sort of the gist about the rule works.

1025
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, you can't. You can't put either your hands your arms.

1026
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 7: You can't push off, whether it's a teammate or or

1027
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 7: an opponent. You can't push off to gain height to

1028
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 7: block the kick. Now that look, I think I think

1029
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 7: that's if you watch it like I can see okay. Yeah,

1030
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 7: by rule, that's a foul. It happens a lot and

1031
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 7: doesn't get called. And that's such a big play. I

1032
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 7: think the legal support that call I had. Tem Payton

1033
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 7: texted me yesterday. I hadn't seen the play, but he

1034
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 7: asked me if it was a foul, and when I

1035
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 7: looked at it, I said, they're going to support it

1036
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,720
Speaker 7: because he did put his left hand down, he pushed off,

1037
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 7: and he did propel himself. And so that is the rule. Again,

1038
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:40,879
Speaker 7: you don't see it called all that often, but that's

1039
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 7: obviously a huge call in the game.

1040
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 5: Indeed, you were with was it Tom and the crew

1041
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 5: this week? Yeah?

1042
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, he was with me. He was with me.

1043
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1044
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 5: Did you actually did you go to the r trailer thing?

1045
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 5: Did you you get to go there?

1046
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 7: I haven't been in it yet. I haven't been in

1047
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 7: it yet.

1048
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 5: No, but you know about it, don't you?

1049
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 7: Oh?

1050
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:07,359
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1051
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 5: Oh yeah?

1052
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1053
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 5: What is q what's he getting? What is Qton?

1054
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 6: He's he travels around in a like a luxury mobile.

1055
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 5: Hole.

1056
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's not every week, but there is. Yeah, and

1057
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 7: it has like all like I would do it too

1058
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 7: with it because it has all you know, it's like

1059
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 7: it's like an extension of his home. He's comfortable.

1060
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1061
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 7: I haven't been in it yet though, you know, I

1062
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 7: kind of man, man of the people, A man of

1063
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 7: the people. I stay. We got to stay in the

1064
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,320
Speaker 7: four seasons, all right, I'll stay in the four seasons,

1065
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 7: all right.

1066
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 5: Yes, that sounds like a big struggle there, standing of

1067
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 5: the four seasons.

1068
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:50,760
Speaker 4: Tang dang? What what jumped out at you this weekend?

1069
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,879
Speaker 4: Like when you're watching it? Obviously, again I say it's

1070
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 4: hard to watch as a civilian once you've seen it

1071
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 4: the way that you're going to see, whether it's a

1072
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 4: player there's doing it as a rules expert and calls.

1073
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:07,439
Speaker 4: What what did you see this weekend that jumped off

1074
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 4: the screen? That was like worth committing to memory for you.

1075
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,319
Speaker 7: Well, obviously, look our game Chiefs Eagles. It was it

1076
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 7: was both defenses were really dominating the game. We talked

1077
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 7: about the social bush, we talked about the alignment, those

1078
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 7: types of things. Then you watch a game like like

1079
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 7: Dallas and the Giants and there was no defense in

1080
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 7: the second half and it was just like a shootout

1081
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 7: and it was it was a crazy game. I think. Again,

1082
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 7: like we talked about last week, we're still the football

1083
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 7: isn't isn't top notch. Yet It'll get there, you know,

1084
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 7: Week four, week five. You know, from an officiating perspective,

1085
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 7: I think they're you know, they have to. They're going

1086
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 7: to continue to emphasize the sportsmanship, ship stuff and the

1087
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 7: and the taunting and those types of things. Show Ceedee

1088
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 7: Lamb in that game, right, Giants had three I haven't

1089
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:55,320
Speaker 7: seen that in a long time. Giants had three fouls

1090
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 7: on one play. And then cdee Lamb got up and

1091
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 7: got somebody safe and and and and that offset all

1092
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,439
Speaker 7: of it, which is which is the right the right rule.

1093
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,320
Speaker 7: But so I just think those are things that players

1094
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 7: are going to have to continue to uh, you know,

1095
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 7: make sure they they they just because those penalties are

1096
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 7: big in the game.

1097
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 2: As an official, when did you feel like you were

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00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 2: all right, we've got the early Are we talking like

1099
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 2: week three, week four? You feel like everybody's starting to

1100
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 2: kind of come into their own as.

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00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 7: Far as Yeah, I think I think by week three,

1102
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 7: week four, probably week four. Again, it's I look, when

1103
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 7: I remember when I first started at the league office,

1104
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 7: I mean, the preseason was legit like and and so

1105
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 7: I think it was earlier right, because they were playing

1106
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 7: four preseason games. You started like that that third preseason

1107
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 7: game was like a regular season game for for a

1108
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 7: lot of teams almost you know, two and a half

1109
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:50,839
Speaker 7: three quarters. So I think now it does probably get

1110
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 7: through the first month of the season and then teams no, Okay,

1111
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 7: this is who we are and what we're good at

1112
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 7: and uh and and I think it gets better from there.

1113
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 5: Indeed, I keep looking at passing afference.

1114
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 6: I feel like it's obviously the way you're rewarded on

1115
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 6: the offense makes us so impactful in games.

1116
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 5: But also I feel like we're.

1117
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 6: Getting to a point where it just I don't know,

1118
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 6: let's get a little touchy out there, you know what

1119
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 6: I'm saying, Like, I feel like we're calling it or

1120
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 6: more apt to call it than not. And I'm not

1121
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 6: asking if the officials are being coached different about this.

1122
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:26,879
Speaker 6: I just feel like, are they cognitiant of how much

1123
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,919
Speaker 6: this could turn a game or change your round?

1124
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 7: I just I think they are. It's a bit right,

1125
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 7: when you get a thirty yard penalty, it's on an

1126
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 7: underthrowe ball. Sometimes right, it's it's it's a big, big

1127
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 7: it's a big call, and they are coached. And I

1128
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 7: remember Maurica talk when when John Fox when he was

1129
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 7: at the Panthers and then at the Bears, and he

1130
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 7: used to complain about past and appearances. He said something

1131
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 7: that always stuck with He's like, he's like the events

1132
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 7: to passenger and should call itself. And I kind of

1133
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 7: always thought that was a good way of looking at it,

1134
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 7: Like you should jump out right, it should be obvious.

1135
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 7: These are big penalty and you want to allow you know,

1136
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 7: we talk about hand fighting if there it's a jockeying

1137
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 7: for position. You know, receivers are just as handsy too,

1138
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 7: and you can't let them get away with stuff. So

1139
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 7: but you wanted to really call itself. And I like

1140
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 7: the rule because I feel like it versus the college

1141
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 7: rule because if you took away that, if you went

1142
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 7: to more of a college rule. Right, these dvs are

1143
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 7: so good, you're gonna you're gonna really hurt the deep

1144
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 7: passing game and they're going to play really aggressively in

1145
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 7: that game and say, okay, I'll give up the fifteen

1146
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 7: versus versus a thirty yard play. And so I like

1147
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 7: where it is, but I do think the officials have

1148
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,840
Speaker 7: you just have to continue to be consistent not not

1149
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 7: call tiki tech stuff because like you said, it's a

1150
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:44,439
Speaker 7: big it's a big penalty in the game.

1151
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 4: Personal opinion is Kansas City or are they on the

1152
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 4: decline or you know, just sign it in person?

1153
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 5: What is the runover?

1154
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 7: We talked about it yesterday and I think, look, that

1155
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 7: defense is great. They you know you Fags is incredible.

1156
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 7: You know their defensive coordinator, Steve Spagnolo. I think, let's

1157
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 7: see who they are when they get rushy, right, you

1158
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 7: know Zavier Worthy was out, Yes, it was that on Sunday.

1159
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 7: It just looked like they weren't. You know, Mahomes didn't

1160
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 7: have a ton of options people getting open for him.

1161
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 7: He was doing more with his legs. Obviously scored a

1162
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 7: touchdown a rushing TV. So I want to see them

1163
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 7: at full strength on offense because that defense is going

1164
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 7: to keep them in games. So I don't think it's

1165
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 7: over yet. I would never count them out.

1166
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 2: Dean Blandino joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. He's

1167
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 2: Fox Sports NFL college football rules analyst. Where do you

1168
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 2: stand on targeting in college football? There was you know,

1169
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 2: we see it seemingly every week LSU had a player

1170
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 2: ejected but on the broadcast, I think it was Sean

1171
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 2: McDonough said, well, you know he's he's the new change

1172
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 2: this year. He's allowed to stay on the sidelines for

1173
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 2: the rest of the game. It's like, okay, well that helps,

1174
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 2: but like, where do you stand in general on how

1175
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 2: targeting is handled in college football?

1176
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think the rule has done its job. I

1177
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 7: think when it first went in, you know, targeting is

1178
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 7: two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine, and the

1179
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 7: hits that you saw then you don't see anymore. So

1180
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 7: I think it's done its job. But I think we

1181
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 7: got to look at the rule because the game is

1182
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 7: evolved and players have done a great job, coaches, everybody's

1183
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 7: done a really good job. Now we got to look

1184
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 7: at the rule. To me, I really do think the

1185
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 7: disqualification is it's too punitive because there's different layers of targeting.

1186
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 7: You could see, right, you can see a targeting you go, yeah, okay,

1187
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 7: that's that's a foul by rule. And now now if

1188
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 7: it's in the third quarter, guess what you're missing the

1189
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 7: rest of this game. In the first half of the

1190
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 7: next game, that's such a big penalty. I think we

1191
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 7: got to get to can we get Okay, there are

1192
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 7: some hits that should be fifteen yard penalties, but not

1193
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 7: the disqualification. I think that's the next iteration of this rule.

1194
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 7: And I'm part of the rules committee in college football,

1195
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 7: so so you know, we're going to look at that

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00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 7: and hopefully we can get the rules committee and the people,

1197
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 7: you know, the powers that be on board with Hey,

1198
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 7: these are not their penalties, but they shouldn't be disqualifications.

1199
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 7: And I think we got to look at that that

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00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 7: going forward.

1201
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 5: Did you get some Italian when you guys were in

1202
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 5: Kansas City?

1203
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 7: Did say that again?

1204
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 6: Did you get some Italian while you guys were in

1205
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 6: Kansas City?

1206
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 7: Of course, of course we went to and I'm not

1207
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 7: it's not going to be a great promo because I

1208
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 7: already forgot the name of it. But they we stayed

1209
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 7: at the Lows where the Eagles were staying, so we

1210
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 7: got we got some big domb time, which was great.

1211
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 7: And uh, you speaking of Italians, So that's yeah, that's

1212
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 7: the Italian that I got. But we had some good

1213
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 7: food and we ate. We Travis and and Patrick are

1214
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 7: part of like they're they're involved with this restaurant that

1215
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 7: was just opened up. At opening up at the low seven.

1216
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 6: I mean it is yeah, yeah, the fifth fifteen to

1217
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 6: eighty seven steakhouse, I believe. Yep, it looks to be

1218
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 6: a good spot real quick though, On the Dob front,

1219
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 6: do you kind of look at like his role with

1220
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 6: the Eagles that feel like most teams should have someone

1221
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 6: but I feel like they do, but it's not to

1222
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 6: the extent that Dobb's able to, you know, kind of

1223
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 6: control the sidelines, control the team and all the stuff

1224
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 6: that goes on.

1225
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 7: Well, everybody, you know, every team has somebody like that.

1226
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 7: I think Dob, who's awesome by the way, who's I

1227
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 7: think she's become and not And when you talk to him,

1228
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 7: he doesn't like he just he doesn't want the spotlight.

1229
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 7: He doesn't. But I think it finds him. And so

1230
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 7: now that people know, you know, you have the situation

1231
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 7: with the Niners where he got thrown out of the

1232
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 7: game and with I think it was green Law, and

1233
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 7: so now it's kind of like people recognize him and

1234
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 7: it's almost like the camera finds him and I think

1235
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 7: we just see him more like you saw him on

1236
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 7: the broadcast, you know, when when Sirianni was going going

1237
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 7: a halftime and John with the officials a little bit

1238
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 7: and Dom was there, so everybody has it Dom, but

1239
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 7: I think Dom is just more you know, he's more known,

1240
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 7: and at this point, I think the camera just just

1241
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 7: tends to find him.

1242
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 2: He's good Penn stater.

1243
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 5: He is a stater.

1244
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 2: Dean always appreciate it. Man, thanks so much for the time,

1245
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 2: and I felt like we kept it a little more

1246
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 2: classy this week.

1247
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 5: Professional.

1248
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, there was no no dildo talk. Thanks guys.

1249
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 6: I was going to point out though there was a

1250
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 6: dildo throat. I believe it was the Bengals game.

1251
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 7: Brady has. Brady has like it at his home, like

1252
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 7: a bildo counter and every time any game and for

1253
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 7: North American professional sports, he's going to branch out as

1254
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 7: well that when a bildo was thrown, it like goes

1255
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 7: off and it's like, oh, we got one, and we

1256
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 7: got one in Omaha.

1257
01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 6: That's actually called the dildo doppler. Guy definitely keeps looking

1258
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 6: for it, but just thoughts on that. Indeed, you lied

1259
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 6: to us the last time we had you on, you

1260
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 6: said there was one official responsible for I have had

1261
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 6: seen it one official pick one up the entire time.

1262
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 6: It's usually some guys showing his ass crack, which is

1263
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 6: also a bad move to.

1264
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 5: Pick up a dial though, but that's for another another day.

1265
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 7: Exactly, exactly, all right.

1266
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 2: Guys, all right, all right, there he is Dean Blandino

1267
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 2: with us here.

1268
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 5: All lies

1269
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 2: Abort mission