Speaker 1: I am all in. Oh that's just you more. I
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Speaker 1: Hey everybody or Live from Halifax, Nova Scotia. Poem of
Speaker 1: seafood Delectables of all stripe um takes Nova Scotia. For
Speaker 1: some reason, I think I thought Nova Scotia was the city.
Speaker 1: I just realized that that's not. No, it's it's it's
Speaker 1: the province. And like, can you give me like, is
Speaker 1: it like the size of Massachusetts, like the size of
Speaker 1: Rhode Island. I think it's a couple hour drive about
Speaker 1: astern if you got it? Got it? So it's no California.
Speaker 1: It's not as like oh no no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no no no no, no no no, it's it's beautiful.
Speaker 1: Have you discovered a favorite restaurant in Halifax, Nova Scotia.
Speaker 1: You know there's a couple actually there's a couple. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't want to name them, but there, because you know,
Speaker 1: I like to go there. Everyone didn't know about it. Hey,
Speaker 1: come on down, I'll buy cocktail. And I was like
Speaker 1: hearing about something like that, Oh God, what was it?
Speaker 1: And they're like, don't tell anybody, like because you don't
Speaker 1: want everyone to know, like it's the best, right, and
Speaker 1: then they'll they'll you know, people order so many and
Speaker 1: then they'll have to get cheaper meat or something and
Speaker 1: then loses its luster. Yeah. So, but there's a couple
Speaker 1: of places and they're they're fantastic. But it's it's it's
Speaker 1: it's a fun city and uh, you know, it's beautiful
Speaker 1: on the outskirts of the city, it's like unbelievable places. Um,
Speaker 1: you got to be into boating and fishing and all
Speaker 1: that stuff because it's like it's heaven here. Water skiing,
Speaker 1: it's it's great all morning. I was like Unice Singles
Speaker 1: water skiing all over the day. I'm just kidding. I
Speaker 1: would never do that. It's in my contract. I just
Speaker 1: follow is about it there? Yeah, yeah, a little a
Speaker 1: little bit. It's historic. Yeah, there's some historic sites. Sure. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's got its own history diner. There actually is, and
Speaker 1: I did take a photo of it. Wait, it's actually
Speaker 1: called Luke Steiner. There's it's not Luke Steiner. I think
Speaker 1: it's more of a bakery, but it says Luke's on
Speaker 1: the front. We were shooting down town one. You don't
Speaker 1: you don't follow my Instagram, do you Cram's doing that
Speaker 1: whack thing. We're not getting my you know. So, so
Speaker 1: I took the picture in front of Luke's and I said,
Speaker 1: you know, something like some stupid that I always say,
Speaker 1: like Luke in front of Luke's. Oh mind blown or
Speaker 1: something like that, and it got a headline here in
Speaker 1: the Halifax Press. Yes, yes, yeah, I found it. Whack
Speaker 1: thing is called an algorithm. I'm getting like, I'm getting
Speaker 1: people that I've never seen in their things in five
Speaker 1: meters and I'm not getting the ones that I usually see.
Speaker 1: That's like, yeah, I'm really bitter that nobody responded to
Speaker 1: my text outside of you Amy that you were going
Speaker 1: to watch this episode. The second I saw this episode,
Speaker 1: I blasted all of you guys and was like, I'm obsessed.
Speaker 1: I know, but here's why I didn't respond. You didn't
Speaker 1: like it? Well, I love all the episodes. No, no,
Speaker 1: I love them all, but this was not my favorite.
Speaker 1: You know what, you know what, you know what you
Speaker 1: should have done. You know what you should have done.
Speaker 1: You should have watched it a second time, because I
Speaker 1: watched it last night and I was like, man, stinker
Speaker 1: didn't like it, and hang on, hang on, and I
Speaker 1: was just in a mood. Okay, I was lonely, I
Speaker 1: was missing my family. I wasn't in the mood to
Speaker 1: be watching any of this kitty stuff. Okay. And then
Speaker 1: I watched it right before we came on, and I
Speaker 1: laughed my ass off, and I really really enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: I actually I really enjoyed the episode. Stop laughing, right, hilarious?
Speaker 1: I thought so, I thought so. I mean, it's enjoyable.
Speaker 1: But what parts made you guys laugh the most? Okay,
Speaker 1: say the same things? Got go ahead? God, what are
Speaker 1: you gonna say when talking? Yes, yes, he steals the episode.
Speaker 1: He he was changes. It was changes. Everything he said.
Speaker 1: I completely agree with you. Everything he said. Don't touch me, Dave,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna touch you young. I mean, everything was
Speaker 1: perfect from this guy Sprouth. I have like five lines
Speaker 1: from Dave Regowski. Yes, yes, he was masterful. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: is I love Adam Brody. He did that same stuff
Speaker 1: on the the delivery and that the cool laid back
Speaker 1: and he's so smart and wait, yeah, yeah, it's like
Speaker 1: there's nothing better. There's nothing better. And the great line
Speaker 1: was when he said, and when the guys you're like
Speaker 1: and and Regalsky says, uh unusually obsessed with that integer
Speaker 1: My favorite when he told young Cheo to step away
Speaker 1: from the cords because he electrocuted, and so good, it's
Speaker 1: so good. It's so good, oh man, you know because
Speaker 1: because because Yanny, I mean Michelle kind of he was
Speaker 1: still great. But I like, I like angry Michelle more
Speaker 1: than I like sort of like dogs, but the dogs
Speaker 1: in the soft Michelle. That's funny too. And he had
Speaker 1: he had one or two good lines, but it's it's
Speaker 1: not the David Galsy came in and just hit it
Speaker 1: out of the park. Like every time he showed up,
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, more, Dave more, Dave more day.
Speaker 1: I mean even when he was just it was so great.
Speaker 1: He's so different from everybody else. He's so distinctive and
Speaker 1: he's just he's just really relaxed and great. I love
Speaker 1: the guy. I love. You gotta get him on. I asked,
Speaker 1: I know, you gotta get you gotta get him on, man,
Speaker 1: because I'm pretty sure he's Adam Brodie's just playing Adam Brodie, right, No, No,
Speaker 1: there's no question. He doesn't have to do characters. He
Speaker 1: is a character. It's so confusing because Adam Brody in
Speaker 1: real life is married to late mister. Yes, okay, so
Speaker 1: he married the girl from Gossip Girl. Correct, and then
Speaker 1: the girl from the o C married Rachel Bilson. She
Speaker 1: married Darth Vader, but they got divorced or separated. They're
Speaker 1: not something. She married Darth Vader. What's married at Hayden Christians? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah? Who confused? The heck? Can keep up with
Speaker 1: all these kids and who they're marrying? And I just
Speaker 1: bouncing around like Bunny Rabbits and Layton Mester and with Rachel.
Speaker 1: I agree, Oh, come on, she's put her from Gossip Girl.
Speaker 1: You can't really, she's iconic, Layton Mister her song good
Speaker 1: Girls Go Bad? Yes, okay, let's should I give them
Speaker 1: the synopsis so people know what we're talking about. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's do let's do that. So this is season three,
Speaker 1: episode nineteen. The title is Keg Max Air date Apri three,
Speaker 1: So this is literally in the synopsis. So much happened?
Speaker 1: Lad La joins the Booster Club at Chiltern, where Max
Speaker 1: is the faculty advisor and he tries to set boundaries
Speaker 1: with her. Meanwhile, at the end, Michelle and Laura La
Speaker 1: are picking up extra house keeping duties and she has
Speaker 1: an awkward running with Luke and Nicole in their room.
Speaker 1: Jess Laurence he's getting kicked out of school and he
Speaker 1: doesn't tell Rory, all leading up to him being upset
Speaker 1: at a party where Lane's band book their first gig
Speaker 1: and ends up getting in a huge fight with Dean
Speaker 1: and speaking of Lane, Dave is jealous about young Chew
Speaker 1: and Lane started drinking and drunk dials her mom to
Speaker 1: tell her the truth. Can I get my bone to pick? Yeah? Sure? Max?
Speaker 1: Like what the hell was that? Like that scene? Sorry
Speaker 1: to come off like start right and being caustic, but
Speaker 1: like that scene was so donkey do do? Like what
Speaker 1: but I'm you see I I actually agree with your
Speaker 1: bone to pick because I am actually happy. Max was like, no, dude,
Speaker 1: you had the ring. You ruined it, so I'm out
Speaker 1: right that you can't have a cake and eat it too,
Speaker 1: sorry right right moving around the classroom like state ten
Speaker 1: feet for me, Like he's a dork. I was like, no, Max,
Speaker 1: You're cool. He was. That was okay, So so that
Speaker 1: was that was theater Okay, that was a theater interpretation
Speaker 1: of that scene because they had the room to do
Speaker 1: it because it was two people in a big space
Speaker 1: right in a classroom. They had all that space to themselves.
Speaker 1: How they going to fill it? So they decided to
Speaker 1: do a theater interpretation and not a TV or a film. Yes,
Speaker 1: I think your interpretation dory and that right, it's like
Speaker 1: watching that was like watching an off Broadway play, a
Speaker 1: bad off Broadway play. Well, not necessarily I thought, no.
Speaker 1: I thought the acting was was good. It just it's
Speaker 1: hard to digest it in a television format and a
Speaker 1: television medium because that's theater what they Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: you're right, because this is I think you're totally right,
Speaker 1: because it's why I don't love people are gonna like
Speaker 1: I want to yell at me, but I don't love
Speaker 1: theater because it always seems fake. And so to me,
Speaker 1: this show is real. Like for me, these people are real.
Speaker 1: This is all real. And so when I see that
Speaker 1: dorky miss dancing around hand been handy man, like it's
Speaker 1: choreographed like someone, because then you're gonna go left and
Speaker 1: you're gonna go right, and you're gonna run around the
Speaker 1: desk right right, fool. And then like they almost won
Speaker 1: me back when they bumped into each other in the hallway.
Speaker 1: But still I was just like, she came, but she
Speaker 1: came running out the door. Why was she running out
Speaker 1: the door and like slammed into him with her shoulder.
Speaker 1: It was like, what is going I didn't like that.
Speaker 1: I wanted the last time he said by to be
Speaker 1: the time he said by, right, I did too, just
Speaker 1: be Max. Max is So I love Max because Max
Speaker 1: is cool and Max would never that was not Max.
Speaker 1: That was an impostor because by Max never, like he
Speaker 1: would have gone in and kissed her and then been like, yeah,
Speaker 1: goodbye forever. But I don't but but he but look
Speaker 1: at what he went through. He didn't want to lose
Speaker 1: his job, you know, because because how how many conversations
Speaker 1: did we have prior in season one about the inappropriateness
Speaker 1: of the relationship in the first place, Right, And then
Speaker 1: you know he's he's gonna bend Rory's mind with this,
Speaker 1: He's going to jeopardize his career with this one magnetic girl,
Speaker 1: and you know, yeah, you can believe that, but it's like, what, so, yeah,
Speaker 1: I kind of feel like he's justified in doing that.
Speaker 1: I don't know, if you didn't like how it was blunted,
Speaker 1: you didn't like how the scene was interpreted right, and
Speaker 1: and it also made well it also made Laurela I
Speaker 1: look a little dorky too. Yeah. Yeah, it looked like
Speaker 1: she kept coming forward and was like, WHOA is this
Speaker 1: Like it was a little yeah it was. It was
Speaker 1: a little creepy, it was. It was kind of yeah,
Speaker 1: I got I thought it was an odd choice when
Speaker 1: I watched it, and then I watched it again and
Speaker 1: I thought, yeah, it's still an odd choice. But they
Speaker 1: made the choice, right. Yeah, I guess you have to.
Speaker 1: They decided to try something, you know, and really physicalize
Speaker 1: the scene, right, and you can defend that scene. Hit
Speaker 1: me up because I thought anything it was over the top.
Speaker 1: I will agree with you on that. But I did
Speaker 1: like the scene. I did like the scene where Lorela
Speaker 1: was trying to get get you know, get through to Max.
Speaker 1: But he was like, you know what, No, you screwed
Speaker 1: me over once. You're not going to do it again.
Speaker 1: And I stand by it, Like I do love him
Speaker 1: doing been that. I like that she came in and
Speaker 1: called him out, so you're avoiding me and he's like yeah,
Speaker 1: but all right, And all he needed to do to
Speaker 1: make a really strong response is to stand up behind
Speaker 1: his desk and use his voice and that's it, and
Speaker 1: that's all it needed. And I think it killed what
Speaker 1: I think you're objecting to. Is it kind of killed
Speaker 1: the tension of the scene. Yes, because there was a
Speaker 1: lot of tension and a lot of feelings in that
Speaker 1: scene and it kind of got frittered away with all
Speaker 1: that kind of weird staged you know, it was like
Speaker 1: she wasn't trying to murder him, and he's throwing like
Speaker 1: desks in front of her. You know, it's like it was.
Speaker 1: It was, it was, it was, it was. And for me,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but if you were engaged to somebody and
Speaker 1: you slept with them and then they dare tell me, oh,
Speaker 1: don't come within ten feet of me, I'm going to
Speaker 1: do this weird. Hey, that's twenty bucks. I love this show,
Speaker 1: and I think that scene I'm gonna go on limb
Speaker 1: here and say, one of the worst scenes in the
Speaker 1: entire run of the series. Oh no, not worst episode,
Speaker 1: just scene that was it worse than Christopher coming in
Speaker 1: and doing a whole I was about to say that
Speaker 1: you would like that scene. I love that the whole
Speaker 1: romance novel scene that was amazing I love that scene.
Speaker 1: This scene was so fake because amazingly Bad is never
Speaker 1: going to act like that, and lor Lie is never
Speaker 1: gonna act like that. You're telling is some dude that
Speaker 1: she was engaged to and slept with, like we all
Speaker 1: know it, said to her, don't come in within ten
Speaker 1: ft of me. Let me tell you what my lorre
Speaker 1: Lie would do. Bye, She's not gonna do that dance
Speaker 1: and try to Oh, let me come closer like a freak,
Speaker 1: Like that's too cool for that. Dude says to her,
Speaker 1: I can't come within ten feet of you, which, first
Speaker 1: of all, I get it. He's saying, I'll kiss you.
Speaker 1: But it's like, dude, you're a grown ass man. She's
Speaker 1: the coolest chick on the planet. Okay, but he said
Speaker 1: it himself, Laura is a creature that makes him do
Speaker 1: weird things. A mythological creature. You're like a mythological creature.
Speaker 1: Refer creature. What I want to do somebody. I know
Speaker 1: that I'm making producers lose their minds right now, But
Speaker 1: can somebody transcribe that scene really quick so we can
Speaker 1: read the words. The words were not my problem with it.
Speaker 1: It was the buffoonery you want to do. Do you
Speaker 1: want to do the scene with me? Yes? Do you want? Yes?
Speaker 1: Because I'll be because let me tell you, Luke never
Speaker 1: have been ever like that, ever, especially the lord, like
Speaker 1: he would never do kill later because I love a
Speaker 1: big door. Like it was just I feel like reading
Speaker 1: like the scene is almost like gonna like I feel
Speaker 1: like I feel like the words are actually going to
Speaker 1: play off. Well, yes, that's what I'm saying they did.
Speaker 1: We're going to do with justice. We're doing this as
Speaker 1: an exercise to right the wrong internally. That's going on
Speaker 1: side of Amy right now. We've got to write the
Speaker 1: ship for her. It's like a rehab mission. Yes, I
Speaker 1: don't think it was no words that and you can
Speaker 1: say like I can't come within dense feet of you,
Speaker 1: like you can say that. Cool. It's when great actors
Speaker 1: make us questionable choices. And whose fault is that? Like
Speaker 1: is that the director? The guys. I'm telling you they
Speaker 1: did this in real time, like we didn't like pause
Speaker 1: and edit like they just found that and I am ready, Well,
Speaker 1: this scene is like miles long. All right, we can
Speaker 1: just do the the part, Okay, all right, go ahead,
Speaker 1: got you? You sure did kind of real busy. You're
Speaker 1: avoiding me. No, I'm not. Then, what's with the I'm
Speaker 1: busy things? I can't be busy. That's avoiding me saying
Speaker 1: you're busy. No, it's descriptive of my current state. These
Speaker 1: essays are due back tomorrow. I'm way behind my reading,
Speaker 1: so I'm eating my Dale vending machine sandwich at my
Speaker 1: desk in my feudal attempt to try and catch up
Speaker 1: two rotations? What it's in the Booster Club? By laws
Speaker 1: my friend and looked it up myself. Faculty advisors are
Speaker 1: supposed to do a minimum of two consecutive rotations with
Speaker 1: the Booster Club, and you did one. I did three?
Speaker 1: What I did three? You wanted my third one? I
Speaker 1: did the previous two. You weren't at You have documentation? Documentation? Well,
Speaker 1: I'm sure I can scrounch up a witness. Why did
Speaker 1: you treat me so weird at that last meeting? I
Speaker 1: treated you with respecting kindness. That's why it was weird.
Speaker 1: It's it's how you treated Terry and Joan too. I mean,
Speaker 1: did you also kissed Terry and Joan? Yeah? I did,
Speaker 1: and Doug and he was the best of all three.
Speaker 1: I was playing it cool. You were too. I was
Speaker 1: just following suit. No, I was playing it cool because
Speaker 1: you were playing it cool, and I'm the treasure, and
Speaker 1: the treasure has to be cooler. It looks suspicious. Wait wait, wait,
Speaker 1: wait ten feet ten feet that's safe distance for us,
Speaker 1: and the more furniture in between, the better. I'm not
Speaker 1: going to attack you. I'm not worried about you. I'm
Speaker 1: worried about me. I mean, there are people still walking
Speaker 1: the halls, and this is my workplace, and I can't
Speaker 1: be held responsible for what I do around you. I
Speaker 1: mean you you are like a like a like a
Speaker 1: mythological creature that casts some kind of I mean it
Speaker 1: sounds like such an insult, some kind of monster, mythological
Speaker 1: creature that cast some kind of spell on me and
Speaker 1: makes me act stupid. I'm not stupid. I don't act
Speaker 1: stupid with anyone else. Ah, we're too close again. Come on,
Speaker 1: I didn't bring a freaking tape measure. I'm not good
Speaker 1: at judging distances. To help me out with a ten
Speaker 1: ft thing. Well, it's a little bit bigger than a
Speaker 1: basketball player. Just keep a really big basketball player between us.
Speaker 1: But there's a sentence. Okay, So now here's this is okay.
Speaker 1: So okay, I'm gonna stop. Hang on, this is where
Speaker 1: it goes awry. This is this is dot com Okay,
Speaker 1: so this is where the interpretation goes awry. So let's go,
Speaker 1: let's reinterpret it. Let's know, let's fix it, because I
Speaker 1: don't mind not changing the words. It was their movements
Speaker 1: that just right. I was gonna say, when you're reading
Speaker 1: it, it it actually like listening back, I'm like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is sound that bad. Okay. So here's the thing. So,
Speaker 1: so if I'm standing up and you're standing over there,
Speaker 1: I'm not worried and I'm just standing there talking. I'm
Speaker 1: not worried about you. I'm worried about me. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's still people walking the halls, and this is my workplace,
Speaker 1: and I can't be held responsible for what I do
Speaker 1: around you. Smile on my face. You mean you're like
Speaker 1: you're like a mythological creature that casts some kind of
Speaker 1: spell on me and makes me act stupid. I'm not stupid.
Speaker 1: I don't act stupid with anyone else. Like, just underplay
Speaker 1: it and play and play the attraction. Yes, if I
Speaker 1: was lower lie, I would have kind of not the
Speaker 1: fear exactly right movement. I would have sat on the desk.
Speaker 1: That's good, kind of got up and sort of been
Speaker 1: walking a little bit. What you're getting close? You know,
Speaker 1: just this is a seduction This is a seduction scene. Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: so do it? Do it like that? Okay, do it?
Speaker 1: Do it sexy? Do it's sexy. I didn't bring it.
Speaker 1: I'm doing it. I'm being sexy. Okay. I know it's
Speaker 1: blown me away. I don't act stupid with anyone else.
Speaker 1: You're too close again, I didn't bring a tape measure. Look,
Speaker 1: I'm not good at judging distances. Maybe you can help
Speaker 1: me out with a ten ft thing. Well, it's a
Speaker 1: little bit bigger than a basketball player. Just keep really
Speaker 1: big basketball between That's a sentence that's never been uttered before. Well,
Speaker 1: there are the complications with this whole thing, you know.
Speaker 1: Just thought i'd tell you what other complications. I've seen
Speaker 1: somebody in California there, I said it, Oh, you mean
Speaker 1: you weren't living like a Trappist monkel. You were in California.
Speaker 1: So at this point, so at this point, they're embracing right, Well,
Speaker 1: I think they're just I think, oh no, no, it's
Speaker 1: getting sexy. And hot. I think they're just getting close.
Speaker 1: Keep going. That doesn't bother you. Max, we weren't together.
Speaker 1: Be sexy and cool, relax that was my sex and
Speaker 1: cool relaxed. That doesn't bother you. Ah, that doesn't bother you.
Speaker 1: Come on, we're holding we're holding each other. No, that
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be I'm still I'm having trouble with this actress. Max,
Speaker 1: we weren't together. I've been seeing someone too well. I
Speaker 1: would probably still be seeing Diane if I hadn't moved
Speaker 1: back there. That's something to think about. So you can't
Speaker 1: date anyone for the rest of your life because you
Speaker 1: stayed in California, you might still be dating Diane. Yes, No,
Speaker 1: do it an aspirin. I'm probably a tic tac. Sorry.
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have teased you with that aspirin thing. You know,
Speaker 1: I thought we were both going to just pretend to
Speaker 1: ignore the kiss. Wasn't that the deal? We had a deal.
Speaker 1: I don't remember a deal. You had your shot, Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: now at this point I would walk away. Oh okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1: Now we had a deal. I don't remember a deal,
Speaker 1: and then he would That would be the moment where
Speaker 1: I realized I'm can't do this. Okay, I just walk
Speaker 1: away a little bit and I turned around and I
Speaker 1: calmly say, you had your shot, okay, you had the
Speaker 1: ring and you said no, yeah I did. And you
Speaker 1: said that was right for you too. You went to Stanford,
Speaker 1: you did a Diane, it was right for both of us. Well,
Speaker 1: what is this now? Right here? It's us today? Well,
Speaker 1: us needs to stay apart. Oh, Max. We had a
Speaker 1: whole country between us for a year. It's like eleven
Speaker 1: thousand basketball players laying end to end, and yet here
Speaker 1: we are. I thought I was over you. I thought
Speaker 1: I was safe to come back here. But no, not
Speaker 1: the deal. I just I think we should stay apart
Speaker 1: and never see each other again. That's impossible, No, it's not. Well,
Speaker 1: I'll be at the children graduation, and so will you. Well,
Speaker 1: I'll sit behind a tree. I can run into each
Speaker 1: other at a drug store again. Well, I'm gonna run.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna order all my drugs online. If my car
Speaker 1: breaks down next year, will you stop? I will stop.
Speaker 1: I'll keep my straight forward, call a garage and stay
Speaker 1: in my car with a radio one really loud till
Speaker 1: they come, and then I'm gone. And I say we
Speaker 1: start being a part right now. Okay, whatever you want,
Speaker 1: this is what I want when I walk out that door.
Speaker 1: It could be very well the last time we see
Speaker 1: each other. All right, allah, abide by your wishes. Goodbye,
Speaker 1: lordly by Max. Okay, I think we did it better.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I think we did it better.
Speaker 1: I do. I think you've got to play the attraction.
Speaker 1: You've got to almost kiss. I still debate that, but
Speaker 1: that's okay, you're the director, but not that Shenanigans. Good,
Speaker 1: good episode, everybody bye. I'm still okay with the Shenanigans.
Speaker 1: But I will say that I did like what you guys.
Speaker 1: I do like this your take on it, and a
Speaker 1: sense of like there's more drama, there's more lust and
Speaker 1: love and you know fire, that's the relation. That's the
Speaker 1: you have to I think you play. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of pain there, and there's a lot of pain there
Speaker 1: and both of them, and I think you've got to
Speaker 1: stand still and do it. Yes, let it resonate. The
Speaker 1: goofy nous made it seem like like they kissed one time,
Speaker 1: and a like in a high school dance. It's like
Speaker 1: no like and the coatroom kiss. I felt way more
Speaker 1: real to me because it was like it happened, it
Speaker 1: was real. This just seemed it's it had to be.
Speaker 1: It had to be internalized. Yeah, I had to be internalized,
Speaker 1: and it had to be it had to be very
Speaker 1: powerful and hard for them to deliver those Yes, it
Speaker 1: wasn't hard. They were being dorks, I know, I said Dorty, like,
Speaker 1: I don't know what the word isony. It would be
Speaker 1: a very high school versus adult and it was just gooney.
Speaker 1: It was like, these are the two coolest people. Why
Speaker 1: would they act like that? All right, look, let's go
Speaker 1: back to the beginning of this episode. So we start
Speaker 1: off with no Friday night dinner. I forgot this happened
Speaker 1: like that, They don't go anymore. I love that. Richard
Speaker 1: and Emily were just raging. They're like, yeah, but a
Speaker 1: party of sixty listen totally justified, right, I mean they
Speaker 1: got disc before. They didn't get an opportunity to celebrate
Speaker 1: the Harvard they didn't get Yale. I'm sorry they didn't
Speaker 1: get involved in that. So it's like, all right, screw it,
Speaker 1: no more Friday night dinners. Hey, hallelujah, popular, Let's have
Speaker 1: a party. It's like popular, right, right, and they forgot that.
Speaker 1: Richard and Emily were probably sort of putting aside their
Speaker 1: social calendar some Friday nights to host then yeah, right,
Speaker 1: so what were they sacrifice? And now they're not, they
Speaker 1: don't have to sacrifice it anymore. So party on Gartha. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I have a question. Yes, what's the question? What
Speaker 1: is in that? Okay? On the table at the Gilmore's,
Speaker 1: Marian Laurelies, what isn't that bowl? Was it walnuts? What
Speaker 1: are you talking about? So this is just a weird,
Speaker 1: quirky question I have. Can somebody look and we can
Speaker 1: do it later? Do it on the Instagram? There's a
Speaker 1: bowl on their coffee table and I'm like, what are
Speaker 1: those things in there? Are they in Laurelized house? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Do they have a bowl of like shelled walnuts? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I'm sure. Well sure, that's an East Coast thing. We
Speaker 1: always had a bowl. Yeah, yeah, that's common. It's an
Speaker 1: East Coast thing because we don't do that here. So
Speaker 1: I was like, no, what is that? No do you
Speaker 1: do that's the hand thing around the waist thing. That's
Speaker 1: a fall winter East Coast thing. We and the walnut
Speaker 1: first scene the first scene on the coffee table. I
Speaker 1: grew up in a house. It was always like shelled
Speaker 1: walnuts everywhere, you know, bowls of shelled wals with a
Speaker 1: nutcracker and then you sit down you have a little
Speaker 1: nut snack. You know that's wonderful. Yeah, yeah, is that
Speaker 1: a walnuts? Probably is. Yeah, that doesn't seem on brand
Speaker 1: for that, like hot cheetahs or something. They don't. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no, no walnuts. Walnuts because walnuts keep you know,
Speaker 1: you can keep them there for months. Also, the new
Speaker 1: hair kind of look in this episode. I loved it,
Speaker 1: but I think she did. I couldn't do it. The
Speaker 1: hat and the hat what that that? That newsboy? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know what the heck? That was brand another Yeah,
Speaker 1: the hat was my bone to pick. I was, I was.
Speaker 1: I was struggling in that scene. You know, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of pink and a lot of and like, what's
Speaker 1: going on? Okay, we're not there yet, all right? So
Speaker 1: we go to ump around like camera digital camera in
Speaker 1: the diner and got the digital camera and she's like,
Speaker 1: let me take a picture of the menu and then
Speaker 1: I'll look at it on my camera. That is so
Speaker 1: two thousand three, everyone carrying a digital camera and like
Speaker 1: thinking it's the coolest thing ever. It was like a
Speaker 1: brick you throw in your purse. You just keep it
Speaker 1: on your wrist. And that's when that's that's when apple
Speaker 1: Stock was. You know, pennies should have bought more. They
Speaker 1: came back a couple of years later. Crush it. Random
Speaker 1: digital cameras do people have in there? Like junk drawer
Speaker 1: that probably has like a thousand photos on some Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: what were those things? Memory? Yeah, I have a whole
Speaker 1: drawer too, drawers filled with old camerasound one of those
Speaker 1: Remember those Kodak disposable I have to I had like
Speaker 1: three of those undeveloped film. By the way, those are
Speaker 1: like making a comeback, like people are buying them, Like
Speaker 1: where do you take the thing to get the photos? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Where would you do it? Like like the Colcanes, The
Speaker 1: cool kids shoot on film. Now you guys like disposable
Speaker 1: film and they make Instagram accounts. That's like like their
Speaker 1: page on film and they post all their film on
Speaker 1: Like I've seen that with Polaroids aren't a thing as
Speaker 1: much anymore. So those are kind of yellow weird Kodak
Speaker 1: the ones where you like like so, so it's like
Speaker 1: now it's a bunch of Quentin Tarantinos running around out
Speaker 1: there shooting everything on film. Remember he never he fought
Speaker 1: the digital revolution hard and he still is. I think
Speaker 1: God bless him. So absolutely. Now we go to band
Speaker 1: practice and they're trying to come up their band names,
Speaker 1: and we learned that young Chew is going to figure
Speaker 1: out how to get Lane to the party. So it
Speaker 1: was was young Chew. He wasn't at the rehearsal, was he?
Speaker 1: He just he just showed up at the party. Correct.
Speaker 1: They talked because they kind of acknowledge how are you
Speaker 1: going to get to the party. So they wanted wanted
Speaker 1: to double leg jump the windmill off the amplifier. Zach
Speaker 1: wanted to do that, and Dave was like, you want
Speaker 1: to think about that again, more great lines from Dave.
Speaker 1: You probably you probably want to rethink that. You know.
Speaker 1: This is where we learned that that Rory wants to
Speaker 1: go to prom yes, yes, yes, the car is missing
Speaker 1: still yeah, And they want to name their band, uh
Speaker 1: mild walk in the Desert and the Edge of the
Speaker 1: Dessert or something. Their acronym was so funny and like
Speaker 1: I can I did like the Jess was the like
Speaker 1: I felt like he was making an effort here, like
Speaker 1: going to Lane's band prac right he is. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: actually feel bad for just in this episode. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: really just a troubled Yeah he gosheel bad. I feel bad.
Speaker 1: I feel bad for him, you do. My heart was
Speaker 1: bleeding so bummed about like reality set in when he
Speaker 1: had that meat we'll get there. Reality needed that, I
Speaker 1: feel so I'm not. I don't feel bad for him
Speaker 1: because I feel like he needed that. He need Yeah,
Speaker 1: he needed to wake up, he needed to wake up. Call.
Speaker 1: Yeah he did, he got it. Lawrence Hilton Jacobs delivered
Speaker 1: the he dropped the hammer on him. You're out? That
Speaker 1: was rough, baby, Yeah, like you gotta just repeat the year.
Speaker 1: Nothing you can do, get out of my office, bye bye?
Speaker 1: Yeah nice? Right now. A lot of people do think
Speaker 1: there's a bit of a plot hole there in that,
Speaker 1: like why didn't Luke get a call? Like if you're
Speaker 1: that like in danger, were you here going to be
Speaker 1: repeating senior year? You don't call the guardian or parents.
Speaker 1: But we're talking about Jess here probably got home and
Speaker 1: erase those messages. I was about to say he probably
Speaker 1: raised their plan. Yeah, it wasn't like cell phones and
Speaker 1: stuff like called the house, right, or like if there
Speaker 1: was a letter, he intercepted the mail. Whatever your point. Alright,
Speaker 1: so I don't Previously we're at the end and we realized,
Speaker 1: like things are kind of rough, they're laying off people.
Speaker 1: But seen, yeah, yeah, thank god, I like, really you
Speaker 1: want to ask me how that feels? Okay? You know,
Speaker 1: it's almost like today, I don't know that you could
Speaker 1: do that scene because it was so like objectifying somebody's
Speaker 1: body part. Yeah, that was disturbed, but I think I
Speaker 1: think it would have been fine if it was just once,
Speaker 1: but tenures and they just keep doing it to you too.
Speaker 1: Like I realized that it wasn't okay, and it didn't
Speaker 1: make me feel comfortable at all. It made me feel
Speaker 1: really embarrassed. Actually, yeah, it's infuriating to be treated that way.
Speaker 1: It is infuriating because you're being treated like an object
Speaker 1: and it's just it's disturbing and it's disgusting and and
Speaker 1: I had to endure that through that entire scene and
Speaker 1: many takes. It was all about the butt, the butt,
Speaker 1: the butt, the butt. And then you know when when
Speaker 1: you know we weren't filming. We were sitting down people
Speaker 1: still talking about the butt, the butt, the butt. It
Speaker 1: it was inappropriate. Like it was the most disturbing time
Speaker 1: I have ever spent on that set, and I couldn't
Speaker 1: I couldn't wait for that day to be over. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's where it crosses the line because for me, and
Speaker 1: again I'm just giving like a random opinion, like I
Speaker 1: definitely have had like a guy friend where I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know, where you have that clothe close relationship like
Speaker 1: Luke and like Luke and lore Lye, so that parts
Speaker 1: was sort of less cringe e. But when they yelled
Speaker 1: cut it needed to go back to like professionalism. Do
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, were you guys? Because
Speaker 1: really they're complimenting him and flirting with him. Okay, let
Speaker 1: me ask you this way. Fast forward a few seasons,
Speaker 1: Luke and Loraaly are together and the exact scene have
Speaker 1: same scene happens. Do we see it differently? Maybe I'm
Speaker 1: seeing it differently because I know they're they get married eventually. Amy.
Speaker 1: I don't want to speak for Scott, but I do
Speaker 1: I do think it is a little bit different when
Speaker 1: you have a relationship with your significant other that you're
Speaker 1: that you're have sexual chemistry with. You can't you know,
Speaker 1: see things like that. That may be okay if my
Speaker 1: husband told me my but looked good, But I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be okay if somebody at the office or somebody told
Speaker 1: me that. So I think there's a little bit of
Speaker 1: a difference there. And I think I'm looking at it
Speaker 1: with the eyes knowing what these two are in love
Speaker 1: and they're getting married, So I think I might not
Speaker 1: be seeing it right because I'm do you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? But stand there, I mean, just put yourself
Speaker 1: in my place, stand there in front of all those people,
Speaker 1: right And and this is how the creator of that
Speaker 1: show sees that character that you can you can humiliate
Speaker 1: him and take away his dignity that entire scene, and
Speaker 1: that's okay. And it wasn't okay with me. And I
Speaker 1: hated that scene. And that's it's the worst. That's the
Speaker 1: one thing I hate about this episode is that scene
Speaker 1: to put a point forward to like Luke during that
Speaker 1: time was spoken for he was dating Nicole, So that
Speaker 1: makes it did you say anything on set, by the way,
Speaker 1: or no, no, no, how fascinating, just breaks it down
Speaker 1: because you're right, Danielle, I'm looking at it as in
Speaker 1: my view, lore lies saying it to her husband basically
Speaker 1: like I can't help it. That's how I think I
Speaker 1: looked at it. But you're right, like he's totally dating
Speaker 1: someone else and there's like the whole kitchen staff could
Speaker 1: have been around. Yeah. No, I'm sorry Scott that now that,
Speaker 1: now that we kind of peeled the onion a little bit,
Speaker 1: I can totally see how that that made you feel
Speaker 1: that way. I had to go to work and shoot that.
Speaker 1: I had to learn those lines. I had to rehearse
Speaker 1: that scene. I had to shoot that scene many, many
Speaker 1: many times. We had to do that scene in a
Speaker 1: table read with the entire production present, the crew, the cast,
Speaker 1: all the executives, and they're, oh, but but but oh
Speaker 1: but he's got a nice but but but but And
Speaker 1: I'm not going I'm not trying to make it too
Speaker 1: too extreme. You know, you still want people to enjoy
Speaker 1: flirtation in shows, so I do have that lens on
Speaker 1: it too. But imagine if it was a woman fixing something,
Speaker 1: leaning over and change boobs for But no, it's not okay.
Speaker 1: Never It's as disgusting for women to objectify men as
Speaker 1: it is for men to objectify women, and it's as harmful. Yeah, totally,
Speaker 1: it was. It was just the most offensive day I've
Speaker 1: ever spent on a set. And I don't I don't
Speaker 1: want to be like Johnny bring down here, but that no, no,
Speaker 1: I mean we do have to point things like that.
Speaker 1: And it was just because it was two thousand and
Speaker 1: three didn't mean it was okay. It's never okay, and
Speaker 1: I didn't feel comfortable doing it, and it was piste
Speaker 1: me off and I never said anything, so I was
Speaker 1: angry at myself or never said anything. But you know,
Speaker 1: I had this job and I didn't want to make
Speaker 1: waves and all that, you know. And it makes me
Speaker 1: feel horrible because even though I thought, oh, little hint
Speaker 1: of cringe, I also laughed and thought that that. But
Speaker 1: also I think I love them together, so for me,
Speaker 1: they are the couple. So it was like me saying
Speaker 1: to my boyfriend, nice but in those genes, do you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like, which would be fine kind
Speaker 1: of a compliment. I think you would like it, but
Speaker 1: it's totally different when you're like, oh my god, that's
Speaker 1: not the situation here. Yeah, Well we got I got
Speaker 1: that off my chest. Oh I'm glad. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: wasn't you change, But for boobs, it's so offensive. I
Speaker 1: wasn't experienced, and I honestly I wasn't really expecting to
Speaker 1: even discuss this, but watching the episode, I was like,
Speaker 1: that is well, it took me back, Like I remember
Speaker 1: not enjoying that at all, and I didn't think it
Speaker 1: was funny and I never said anything, So it's like
Speaker 1: there's that level of shame too. Yes, we'll think about
Speaker 1: how many things you don't remember, and you'll remember that
Speaker 1: so glaring because it made you feel comfortable. Thank god,
Speaker 1: Thank god for Dave. He saved me in this episode.
Speaker 1: He saved me. It's so interesting and we can move on.
Speaker 1: But I'm just thinking about my own experience with that scene,
Speaker 1: because also the impetus is that the right thing was
Speaker 1: that Suki accidentally touched your butt. She did not mean
Speaker 1: to and she was horrified that she did it, and
Speaker 1: that's all totally acceptable, Like she didn't mean to, you know,
Speaker 1: she she was like embarrassed and horrified. And then Laura
Speaker 1: like kind of it has fun with it and I
Speaker 1: did giggle a little watching it. Did you guys at
Speaker 1: all or were you guys just like, oh yeah, I did. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's set up where you're going to almost
Speaker 1: half to giggle because you love these characters so much,
Speaker 1: and you know everybody is doing their job within the
Speaker 1: scene and performing it so well in the timings there
Speaker 1: and all that, you can't help it laugh. But I'm
Speaker 1: just pointing out how incredibly small it made me feel
Speaker 1: doing it, and I think it really and I think
Speaker 1: it really reduces the character, and I think it really
Speaker 1: reduces their characters as well to be involved in something
Speaker 1: like that. I mean, it's happened to me before in
Speaker 1: my life. It wasn't the first time it happened that.
Speaker 1: It always made me angry, um, because it just you know,
Speaker 1: it does. It devalues people. You're just you know, if
Speaker 1: you if you are just talking about somebody's body part,
Speaker 1: it's it's you're taking away that person's human entity, and
Speaker 1: it's it's inappropriate. Do you feel now that you're older
Speaker 1: and and in a sort of higher position on these
Speaker 1: sets that if if if that happened on the set
Speaker 1: you're on, for example, that you would call it out
Speaker 1: and say like, this isn't not doing this? Oh sure, yeah, No,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't do it in a million years. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what's interesting. You have more whatever the word is, confidence,
Speaker 1: but this is it. But this is a different set,
Speaker 1: you know, it's a whole different vibe. It's a very collaborative,
Speaker 1: very open place. It's a wonderful I'm not saying Gilmour wasn't.
Speaker 1: For the most part, it was great, but it was
Speaker 1: a very rigid and you know, you you did not
Speaker 1: diverge from the script ever. You know, you didn't add anything.
Speaker 1: You didn't you didn't change lines. You said the lines
Speaker 1: as they were written. And that's just all there was
Speaker 1: to it. There was no discussion about it here. Um,
Speaker 1: we're molding scenes, were improving, scenes, were adding things, we're
Speaker 1: taking things away. It's a wonderful collaborative experience. And that's
Speaker 1: why I think everybody is so really happy here because
Speaker 1: they feel valued. You know, it's like everybody's got skin
Speaker 1: in the game. They feel like there's a creative component
Speaker 1: here that you know, they're being valued for. So it's
Speaker 1: kind of all, you know, firing on all cylinders. So
Speaker 1: it's it's really it wasn't like that at Gilmore. It
Speaker 1: was just go in and go as fast as you
Speaker 1: can and you know, hopefully you survive the day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: different demands. Because of the way the writing was, you
Speaker 1: sort of have no choice in it, right because if
Speaker 1: you change it, it does throw it off. And I'm
Speaker 1: not look, I'm not complaining about having the job. It
Speaker 1: was a great job, um and it it means the
Speaker 1: world to me. And you know, having one of those
Speaker 1: jobs on even a smaller network means, you know, you're
Speaker 1: treated like visiting royalty every day. I mean, really, these
Speaker 1: jobs are rare and they're fantastic to get them. I
Speaker 1: just thought that scene was that you know, if you
Speaker 1: will indulge shocked and shocked me. Two things can be
Speaker 1: true at the same time, And Scott and I talked
Speaker 1: about this all the time, meaning the show can be
Speaker 1: amazing and we love it, and you're still allowed to
Speaker 1: have criticisms here and there of certain things or episodes.
Speaker 1: Two things can be true, like I hate that I
Speaker 1: don't love certain parts of this episode because I don't
Speaker 1: want people to like come down on me or think
Speaker 1: I don't love this show. I do, But at the
Speaker 1: same time, it's like, can't I love it? But also
Speaker 1: and I saw people on Instagram defending you Scott. I
Speaker 1: thought there was such an interesting conversation on Instagram because
Speaker 1: someone was like, oh, Scott doesn't like it, and they
Speaker 1: were all irritated by that. And the other person's like,
Speaker 1: he says a million times he loves his show more
Speaker 1: than anything, but he's giving his opinion on certain things. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're in an environment today where if you give a
Speaker 1: diverging view from an audience, the general consensus being that
Speaker 1: it's a lovely show, everybody loves the show. If there's
Speaker 1: any kind of criticism, and especially in this environment we're
Speaker 1: in today, Uh, if you have some kind of divergent opinion,
Speaker 1: you're going to get crushed. And and it's unfortunate that
Speaker 1: we're in this place right now, in in in our country.
Speaker 1: Um but that's just where we are. So I fully expected,
Speaker 1: you know, and Amy and I've have had these conversations,
Speaker 1: right It's like, you know, should I back off on
Speaker 1: the criticism, And it's like she said, no, this is
Speaker 1: how you feel give your opinion. And it's like, it's
Speaker 1: the reason I'm doing this podcast because I'm I'm really
Speaker 1: curious to dig into these episodes. And that's just how
Speaker 1: my mind works, highly analytical. Um, I do feel that
Speaker 1: I'm qualified to comment on the writing I've written. I've
Speaker 1: I've written fifteen screenplays. I've read thousands of screenplays. You know,
Speaker 1: I've I know writing. I've read all the books I've
Speaker 1: I've gone through all the uh you know, the highs
Speaker 1: and lows of writing a screenplay. I've done all the
Speaker 1: I've written screenplays with a really good process. I've really
Speaker 1: I've written screenplays with a horrible process, and so I
Speaker 1: kind of learned how to do it. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: there's the greatest thing since sliced bread, and I've never
Speaker 1: had a movie produced, but you know, I know about
Speaker 1: what makes writing really good and what makes it bad.
Speaker 1: So I appreciate you sharing all that, but also what
Speaker 1: you told us today, because I wouldn't have thought I
Speaker 1: would have seen the scene differently, or I think I
Speaker 1: would have had a different takeaway, and I need to
Speaker 1: hear your experience. So just think about it. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm in New York, I'm doing theater. I'm studying my
Speaker 1: brains out, I'm making all of these strides. I'm encouraged
Speaker 1: to go to l A. I I sit in l A.
Speaker 1: I get this big break on this show right, and
Speaker 1: you want to be you know, you want to rise
Speaker 1: to the top of your fashion if you have any
Speaker 1: kind of competitive drive, which I do and most people
Speaker 1: in his business do you do, Danielle does Tarat everybody does, right.
Speaker 1: They just want to rise up. They want to be respected,
Speaker 1: they want to be fetted, they want to win awards,
Speaker 1: they want to be recognized for their work. And I
Speaker 1: end up doing a scene where people are talking about
Speaker 1: my butt, right, And you want to be liked, And
Speaker 1: so when you want to be liked, it's just you
Speaker 1: don't want to be really you don't want to be
Speaker 1: treated like you're some kind of you know, meat stick
Speaker 1: or yeah it's right. Yeah, by saying I'm not doing
Speaker 1: this because you don't know what's going to happen. If
Speaker 1: they say, well, then you're out. We'll write you out
Speaker 1: and what you know what what an Academy members going
Speaker 1: to say when they see the scene, Oh, we've got
Speaker 1: to nominate him. You know that butt scene was amazing best,
Speaker 1: But you know, I mean, really, what am I involved
Speaker 1: in here? They really questioned why I was doing the
Speaker 1: show at the time. It's like, what am I involved
Speaker 1: with here? So there you go. That's just how I
Speaker 1: feel about it, you know, and I got over it.
Speaker 1: I really apparently I haven't. No, I appreciate the perspective too,
Speaker 1: because I don't know that it was the intention. I
Speaker 1: don't know that the intention was that like, but it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter what the intention was because of how you felt.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I feel guilty. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm coming king it out because I feel guilty that
Speaker 1: I giggled at the scene. And now I'm like, wait,
Speaker 1: I have to be able to do both kind of
Speaker 1: where I go. I'm learning and I see that, and
Speaker 1: then also like, it is a funny little bit. There
Speaker 1: is something funny about it, but it's at your expense.
Speaker 1: But somebody had to pay a price for that. That's right,
Speaker 1: it's at your expense, and I'm still paying exactly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: thank god for Adam Brody. Yeah, well, I was about
Speaker 1: to say, and that hat, that hat. We're coming right
Speaker 1: to the hat next where we just get jarred by
Speaker 1: that cute outfit with literally a terrible hat, and I
Speaker 1: don't thin before we move on from this, we're missing
Speaker 1: one weird thing from that From that scene is when
Speaker 1: Loreaae offers Luke in the cooler room and she goes yeah,
Speaker 1: and she goes, well, you can just stay at the end,
Speaker 1: I'll comp your room, like you know, we'll take care
Speaker 1: of you. She's being awkwardly sweet, but it's almost like
Speaker 1: we're they weird because we both know, like we all
Speaker 1: know deep down and these two like each other, and man,
Speaker 1: nothing's ever been more clearer than the awkwardness of the scene.
Speaker 1: I think maybe that's my criticism because Lorelei was so
Speaker 1: une out of there. What are you doing? Why are
Speaker 1: you staying? And why are you like just oh, I
Speaker 1: literally I didn't. I did not like it. And are
Speaker 1: we supposed to cringe? Like? That's my thing is like
Speaker 1: I hated that scene too, but that one seemed intentional.
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be cringing. I was like this, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're like, just go fire frank Like, Also, he looked
Speaker 1: Luke looked so cute, and Nicole looked They looked so
Speaker 1: cuppily that it made it worse. I was like, I
Speaker 1: wanted part of me wanting to cool, to be like, hey,
Speaker 1: you gotta go. I wanted her really badly to like,
Speaker 1: like not mark her territory that's the wrong praise, but
Speaker 1: for her to be like no, no, no, like you're
Speaker 1: being inappropriate. Get out. We're good, And she did try,
Speaker 1: like being like we're good, we don't need the towels,
Speaker 1: we don't need this, we don't We're fine, but like
Speaker 1: I wanted her to be like, you need to go.
Speaker 1: Also realizes very bad at that job, very bad. Like,
Speaker 1: but I think the writer saw it as an opportunity
Speaker 1: to put Laurel in a situation where she could be
Speaker 1: her comedy. She didn't have staff, and plus, you're right,
Speaker 1: that's a good point. She she didn't have staff, so
Speaker 1: she kind of had to do it right. But she
Speaker 1: should have just got the heck out of Dodge when
Speaker 1: it just got so weird and she can't light the fire.
Speaker 1: She should have done all the rooms, and then once
Speaker 1: she realized it was Luke in Nicole's room, she should
Speaker 1: have gone down to Michelle and like, this is the
Speaker 1: one room I can't do and run for it I've
Speaker 1: been in. Also, imagine being in a hotel and like
Speaker 1: the person just comes and starts chit chatting with you
Speaker 1: in your room. Believe like I don't want you in
Speaker 1: my room. Now. There's so many things about this episode,
Speaker 1: but I feel like as a whole the episode was like,
Speaker 1: as a whole of the episode was good, but listen,
Speaker 1: I you know, Laurel, I occupies so many different worlds,
Speaker 1: her work world, her mom and dad adult world, her
Speaker 1: kids world, all these different worlds. Right, uh Rory does too.
Speaker 1: She's occupying her grandparents world, a mom's world, the stars
Speaker 1: Hollow world, even even even the stars hollow, high school world,
Speaker 1: the chiltern world, all these worlds. We finally got to
Speaker 1: see a bunch of kids at a party having a
Speaker 1: good time, like high school kids. Do Mber remember the kegger? Yeah,
Speaker 1: the first party ever your parents house. You're like, do
Speaker 1: not use the nice towels, towel the party stripes totally.
Speaker 1: The party was very perfectly done. Like whoever wrote that
Speaker 1: scene literally just left a high school party because it
Speaker 1: was just accurate and they can't figure out the keg.
Speaker 1: Yeah I did. I threw a big party. My my
Speaker 1: mom and my my stepdad went to the beach for
Speaker 1: the weekend because it's only you know, forty five minute drive,
Speaker 1: and so I had the house to myself and I
Speaker 1: was in my junior your senior year, and I threw
Speaker 1: I invited everybody in town. I mean, it was a
Speaker 1: oh man, what a shin dig? That was good. God.
Speaker 1: There were fights. Uh, I think they did. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: was so gone by that point that I don't even
Speaker 1: remember half the party. Uh, to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: but yeah, it was. It was crowded and it's like
Speaker 1: everybody in the high school was there. It was. It was.
Speaker 1: It was quite the affair. Every teenager does it. We're
Speaker 1: all so dumb. And even my stepbrother. My stepbrother got
Speaker 1: in fight and it got in a fight with somebody
Speaker 1: in the backyard. There was an actual fight. My stepbrother
Speaker 1: got into a big fight with a guy named Tommy,
Speaker 1: and Tommy was coming. Tommy was kind of the town
Speaker 1: badass and he was good. He was a good dude.
Speaker 1: And uh, they got in a fight. Yeah they got
Speaker 1: anyone think the Jess Dean very choreographed fight. But in
Speaker 1: attack no, no, no, no, no no no. It was great.
Speaker 1: It was great. It was great. It I loved every
Speaker 1: second coming. It wasn't believable because when you hit somebody
Speaker 1: with the right cross right off the bat, that hard
Speaker 1: and that square, so you're going you're going to knock
Speaker 1: them out, they don't like go like this and then
Speaker 1: deliver an even harder, not a scratch on their face.
Speaker 1: But but then you don't get that great scene. I
Speaker 1: love that. I love every moment of it. Dean has
Speaker 1: been waiting to punch Jess for so long. You guys,
Speaker 1: we need to rewind because I feel like there's a
Speaker 1: lot leading up to this fight that literally there. I
Speaker 1: feel like there's a lot of substance there. Okay, so
Speaker 1: let's let's work. We're going to re First of all,
Speaker 1: let's all acknowledge the worst hat in the history of
Speaker 1: fashion we have to that was really just like she
Speaker 1: did not like that exactly. Like she's like a beanie girl,
Speaker 1: you know, she wears the Beanies. Maybe a baseball hat
Speaker 1: would have been, like, made more sense than that. And
Speaker 1: she had that cute blouse. Although that blouse. Here's what
Speaker 1: I'm thinking happened with that fashion that day. The blouse
Speaker 1: was the buttons were puckering a little bit, which happened.
Speaker 1: So they put that cardigan on. It was really cute
Speaker 1: and so it looked really good. I think they were like, oh, no,
Speaker 1: this outfit isn't quite what we wanted. Let's it was
Speaker 1: like the let's throw this on too. Then they give
Speaker 1: her that it was it wasn't even a cardigan. It
Speaker 1: was a zip up like juicy velord. But yeah, but
Speaker 1: it had worked with the blouse, like you don't wear
Speaker 1: a blouse under that. It's why, in your opinion, didn't
Speaker 1: the hot work because I you know, it sort of
Speaker 1: worked for me and it sort of didn't work for me,
Speaker 1: and you know, everything was very pankas. I don't think
Speaker 1: many women can pull off that hat. I think men
Speaker 1: can going to wear that hat. In my opinion, you
Speaker 1: can't have all the other things she happening on. You'd
Speaker 1: have to like literally be in like ray sweat outfit
Speaker 1: or a something so chill white T shirt and jeans,
Speaker 1: white T shirt and jeans, Yes, exactly, she's got a
Speaker 1: pink zip up Kashmir sweater vlore or something with a
Speaker 1: flowery blouse that already was like cute, but like it
Speaker 1: was like ten things too many. Yeah, it was we
Speaker 1: need to have like a something for that. We should
Speaker 1: do like top ten fashion fails, like at the end
Speaker 1: on the Instagram or something that we need to have
Speaker 1: some sort of like um funeral for that hat. It
Speaker 1: was so bad. I think they all knew it. Okay,
Speaker 1: So then we get to the party, So let's break
Speaker 1: down the party left and right right out the gate
Speaker 1: when that girl was so west there, they're kind of
Speaker 1: like warming up and well they got there early with
Speaker 1: the band and Jess was like, what are we here?
Speaker 1: So really quick to go back. We also then found
Speaker 1: out that he can't get tickets to prompts. That's where
Speaker 1: he hasn't told her that he flunked out right and
Speaker 1: that he can't go. And I was heartbreaking too. I
Speaker 1: was so sad for him he didn't. I still stand
Speaker 1: by that like I needed I needed that. Everyone's been
Speaker 1: coddling Jess, like I needed somebody to be like also
Speaker 1: if it was like you can't you can't miss thirty
Speaker 1: one days, he's at thirty one days and you can't
Speaker 1: miss twenty Like who's still letting him like show up?
Speaker 1: Show up? Yeah? Like he showed up, but he wasn't
Speaker 1: showing up, Yeah he wasn't. He was there, Like why
Speaker 1: are they letting him go? Like you're out of here?
Speaker 1: Well for his person walk back in the school is
Speaker 1: right into that guy's office. I don't want to get that.
Speaker 1: And the guy was like, I haven't seen you here
Speaker 1: in thirty one days or whatever. You know, like that's true. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's not how it goes down in the real world though,
Speaker 1: parents thirty one days, you know, sure they do. But
Speaker 1: like we said before, he totally could be like deleting
Speaker 1: the voicemails, taking the letters out of the mail. But
Speaker 1: then again, with being in a small town, couldn't this
Speaker 1: just like across the street. Yeah, it's across We've seen
Speaker 1: him walk to school. Yeah, the principle, the principle couldn't
Speaker 1: go to Luke's Diner and say, listen, there's an issue.
Speaker 1: There was an issue with Jess, Right, get a cup
Speaker 1: of coffee. It's a small town, right, Why isn't he
Speaker 1: coming over there? Hey, we got to talk about Jess.
Speaker 1: If he's so concerned about him, it's supposed to be
Speaker 1: concernous the principle, he wants to help him, right, guidance counselor.
Speaker 1: Why did the guidance counselor go across street? Exactly right?
Speaker 1: Not one teacher gets a donut in the morning, doesn't
Speaker 1: It doesn't. It doesn't track. It's not tracking. The first
Speaker 1: person that calls out Jess is poor Lindsay. She's like
Speaker 1: seeing you at school. I didn't know, right, right, right?
Speaker 1: Before we get into it, can we please just acknowledge
Speaker 1: Jess's best line ever the girl crying and Jess walks,
Speaker 1: Mine goes, it was a little early for that. You
Speaker 1: guys know that was good that I was wondering what
Speaker 1: that line was in reference to I thought it was
Speaker 1: like in high school, there was so much to happen
Speaker 1: before eight am, like it seemed normal, Like you know,
Speaker 1: that was at the party party. But I think his
Speaker 1: best line at the party was when Lindsay said, well,
Speaker 1: what kind of you know? They asked Roy said, well,
Speaker 1: what kind of music do you like? She goes, oh,
Speaker 1: you know Michelle Brand's box cards, Matchbox twenty and Jess goes,
Speaker 1: what what did he do? He was like, oh god,
Speaker 1: that god match I love Rob Thomas, so Matchbox twenty
Speaker 1: for me, Like, I already think I want to go
Speaker 1: to that concert. And we're talking about Jess okay, talking
Speaker 1: about Justice listening to the Who, He's listening to Zeppelin,
Speaker 1: He's listened to the old stuff exactly. Come on, how
Speaker 1: about the kids from the party and he goes, if
Speaker 1: you drop a chip, pick it up. Yeah, the whole thing.
Speaker 1: The party was good. I'm not gonna lie the party
Speaker 1: was chip. If you drop a chip, put it, pick
Speaker 1: it up and put it back, and what do you say?
Speaker 1: Yea or something like that. His braces in his face
Speaker 1: is twenty one and he can get the keg like
Speaker 1: everybody's got like but then I got the line from
Speaker 1: Kyle he goes, hey, you drop a chip, you pick
Speaker 1: it up. It's common courtesy. And then how about the
Speaker 1: fact that somebody said emo? Yeah, so emo. I didn't
Speaker 1: even think emo was used back then. I thought that
Speaker 1: was like it's like the Emo era. No. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: if you have a rock band, and if you have
Speaker 1: a rock band, you want to start your show with
Speaker 1: four banging tunes, just like bam bam, bam bam before
Speaker 1: you say anything into the microphone, like hey everybody, you know,
Speaker 1: thanks and coming, it's great to be our next song boom.
Speaker 1: You just you just go on stage and you hit
Speaker 1: the you hit the audience in the face, four songs
Speaker 1: in a row, and then you've got them right right right,
Speaker 1: right right right. She's like, okay, um, all right, everyone,
Speaker 1: here's what's your name? But that's but that was why
Speaker 1: I said that gang was because they emoi thing came up,
Speaker 1: because that's how they start concert with very slow song.
Speaker 1: You don't start a show with a slow soul with
Speaker 1: a bunch of high school game. No, no, no, well
Speaker 1: like with anybody. I mean watching watching Narrowsmith concert, watching
Speaker 1: a c D. They just come out of the gate roaring,
Speaker 1: you know, and Lane just Lane just goes all out
Speaker 1: this party. Oh my god, talk about liquid courage. Literally.
Speaker 1: But first, just to refresh our memories. How good was
Speaker 1: it when Lola said, don't put your hand in the
Speaker 1: communal chip bowl. It's a toilet. You have to have chips,
Speaker 1: be the one that refills it. Putting your hands in
Speaker 1: a toilet. I wanted to be like girl I relate
Speaker 1: gives that girl a kangaroo hat. Yeah, good for you. Okay.
Speaker 1: So I just feel like there's so many storyline storylines
Speaker 1: in this party that is so significant that it's like
Speaker 1: so Justice upstairs trying to you know, he tries to
Speaker 1: get some nookie. It ain't happening. He trying to. At
Speaker 1: first I think he went for the belt. He went
Speaker 1: went for the belt. No, no, no, but he went upstairs.
Speaker 1: Oh no, he wanted the sulk, right, he wanted he
Speaker 1: needed a minute because he knows but he but he
Speaker 1: always needs a minute. You know, he was just a drip.
Speaker 1: He should have just gone home. He was a drip
Speaker 1: the whole time. But I think I think he normally
Speaker 1: would have gone home, but it was so important to
Speaker 1: Rory that he stayed. So he was like, I need
Speaker 1: a minute, and was like I got to get away
Speaker 1: from all these hooligans. Goes upstairs because like he's older
Speaker 1: than them. That he like, I'm smarter than them. I'm older,
Speaker 1: you know who needs Yeah, I've been to New York City,
Speaker 1: I've lived there, I've used the keg before, I've tapped
Speaker 1: a keg. Give me a break. And I thought it
Speaker 1: was sweet, like that was their biggest makeout sash we've
Speaker 1: ever seen. And then it did take it a little
Speaker 1: too far, and I thought she was right saying like absolutely,
Speaker 1: she's obviously considering like doing it. Do you think this
Speaker 1: is how it should happen. Somebody could walk in, you know,
Speaker 1: soon closes come down the chimney. Yeah, she wanted it
Speaker 1: to be special, and but then I did. Obviously they
Speaker 1: like had like it this heated argument and he raised
Speaker 1: his voice, you know, but then he was like, I
Speaker 1: know it's not you, Rory, you know, like and I
Speaker 1: feel like if Dean was at the bottom of the stairs,
Speaker 1: like I think maybe Rory and Jess could have had
Speaker 1: a really sweet moment. I agree with you. I think
Speaker 1: he would have said, no, this is I'm stressed right now,
Speaker 1: like all these things are happening to me and and
Speaker 1: I'm just I feel like I'm disappointing you. And she
Speaker 1: could have been like, I don't know. They could have
Speaker 1: had agree with they needed a minute, like to separate,
Speaker 1: she gets herself together, and they could have talked about
Speaker 1: Dean was at the end of the stairs. Oh em bloy,
Speaker 1: did I love that Dean was at the end of
Speaker 1: the stairs. She came crying, and he was like, it
Speaker 1: hasn't yeah, and then Jess just comes downstairs and it doesn't.
Speaker 1: Dean say are you okay? Yeah, has come down and
Speaker 1: he just clocks him. No, he know, he went after
Speaker 1: Jess because Jess made a comment about that figures that
Speaker 1: you two would end up together, and just like he
Speaker 1: just had figures, you know, figures. You're right. I took
Speaker 1: it as figures like, oh, you would be at the
Speaker 1: bottom of the stairs like waiting or something. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: he said, figures because they're together and He's consoled, Okay,
Speaker 1: like of course she's gonna right right right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah right. So that's it. That was the That was yeah,
Speaker 1: good fight and who was what was the best thing
Speaker 1: about the fight that Dave Regalski wanted to talk to
Speaker 1: Young Chew. I'm not going to touch you. I just
Speaker 1: just talk about this Lane thing. I just want Then
Speaker 1: boom they get clouded, you know? Then? Then how great
Speaker 1: was that moment? That was the best moment in the
Speaker 1: whole of them. I laughed. Second, two different boy arguments, Tina,
Speaker 1: and that was that was a three Stooges moment. That
Speaker 1: was good. That was great physical comedy, that was perfectly timed.
Speaker 1: That was an intense he went right on top of
Speaker 1: Young Chee. I mean it was just beautiful. Then I
Speaker 1: did think the ending could not have been more perfect
Speaker 1: because the cops says, folks, drop your cups. Parties over,
Speaker 1: everybody go home, which cups? And Lane is, yeah, like
Speaker 1: what about that phone call to her mom? Wow, it's
Speaker 1: going to be a few U is the word repercussions
Speaker 1: after this episode? And I really wanted to see the
Speaker 1: other the other side of that phone call, Lane is,
Speaker 1: really did you want to see the others. Didn't you
Speaker 1: want to see Emily Coroda? Didn't you want to see
Speaker 1: Mrs Kim on you like just cut to her, Like
Speaker 1: I do think we're going to get the Mrs kim
Speaker 1: pay off the next episode. We're going to get it.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there's no doubt about it. Yeah. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: what a phone call. Oh man, the phone call heard
Speaker 1: round the world. Let me tell you long time coming
Speaker 1: for that phone call. This is what happens when they
Speaker 1: don't go to Friday night party fridnight dinner. I think,
Speaker 1: but I thought, but I also thought that I thought
Speaker 1: that Dave Regowski was justified and with the entire situation,
Speaker 1: I liked how he wasn't hostile. He was just like
Speaker 1: I'm done. You know. It's like it's like when are
Speaker 1: you gonna like what is this in some in the
Speaker 1: middle of some circus? Is like, Lane, I really need
Speaker 1: you just to whatever. If you want to fake this
Speaker 1: relationship and like have young Chew like for your mom, whatever,
Speaker 1: do what you gotta do, but like freaking go make
Speaker 1: out with David Key Yeah yeah, I mean party and
Speaker 1: had Young Chew there, but like make out with him?
Speaker 1: That is shot true, Like she should have fully been
Speaker 1: making out with Dave. That was their agreement. So like,
Speaker 1: it's not like she's betraying their agreement. Sucks for Young
Speaker 1: Chew that he fell in love with her, not Lane's fault.
Speaker 1: Lane does talk to him. I think you're right. You're right,
Speaker 1: God blurred because they are becoming such good friends. And
Speaker 1: why First of all, so what was the deal? The
Speaker 1: only way that Lane could be at the party drumming
Speaker 1: was if Young Chew came to pick her up to
Speaker 1: take her out on a day. So the ruse in general, right,
Speaker 1: that's the use. So they were Lan was fake dating
Speaker 1: Young Chew and Young Yeah, I know that I know
Speaker 1: the girlfriend. But then he broke up with Okay, so
Speaker 1: he just came and got her. They went on a date,
Speaker 1: Mrs Kim approves, and they end up at the party. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and what's his face? Young Choo doesn't know what the
Speaker 1: shot is. He doesn't know the drama he's involved in.
Speaker 1: He must because he knows, he knows about he knows
Speaker 1: about Dave Dkowski. Right, It's almost like he just changed
Speaker 1: his mind because he broke up with So what is
Speaker 1: he still doing hanging around when he knows that he
Speaker 1: Because Lane needs him, He's like the decoy. He's the
Speaker 1: decoy Scots, right though, because if Young Chew wasn't in
Speaker 1: love with Lane, Young Cheo would have gone and been
Speaker 1: off at the party, either chatting with other girls, or
Speaker 1: he would have left and been like, I'll meet you
Speaker 1: back here at ten. I'm gonna go do my own things.
Speaker 1: But if he's but even if he is in love
Speaker 1: with her, what's he doing sitting around Pine and for
Speaker 1: in such a public way when he knows that she's
Speaker 1: with Dave Dkowski? Right? He knows, I think because at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, he knows that Mrs Kim
Speaker 1: is not going to let that relationship happen, so he's
Speaker 1: waiting on the sidelines. That is a good point you make, though, Scott,
Speaker 1: because it's not like Young Choo's not in on it.
Speaker 1: He's in on it. He is exactly what's happening. So
Speaker 1: it is a little weird that all of a sudden
Speaker 1: he's so like, I'm waiting for Lane, I'm saving this
Speaker 1: chair for Lane, when we're all like, Lane's not coming
Speaker 1: because you know this, well, she did. She did mentioned
Speaker 1: that he she felt that Young Chew was delusional, well,
Speaker 1: and she did refer to him as delusional. I also
Speaker 1: feel like they've been talking a lot on the phone
Speaker 1: and yeah, yeah, so maybe he thinks, maybe, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe I got a shot with her. The young The
Speaker 1: young boy is confused. He loves that's what he is.
Speaker 1: Not for the party. I don't know if this would
Speaker 1: have been that good of an episode. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: I still love this episode and I still stand by that. Listen,
Speaker 1: that was a great party. I mean, if you're gonna
Speaker 1: do if you're gonna spend time with the kiddies, do
Speaker 1: it at the party. I realized I really thought that
Speaker 1: was fun. That was a lot of fun. See, but
Speaker 1: they're hard to shoot, all those extras. Those things take
Speaker 1: forever to shoot. The fight scene must have taken days
Speaker 1: and days and days. No days and days and do
Speaker 1: you don't have days? And they did it that night.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that looks so complicated. Nobody has days
Speaker 1: and days and days to shoot a fight scene on
Speaker 1: a TV show. Trust me, it took a couple hours.
Speaker 1: And also like, correct me if I'm wrong, Scott, but
Speaker 1: like it with something that with that many steps and
Speaker 1: choreographed and stuff, it's kind of like you gotta get
Speaker 1: it in one shot. No no, because it's hard to redo,
Speaker 1: and it not really, it's not hard to redo, but
Speaker 1: all the energy is in the first take shore And
Speaker 1: they obviously had stunt doubles, but I think Jared and
Speaker 1: Milo did a lot of their own stunts look like
Speaker 1: and it did, it did look like it because usually
Speaker 1: you can tell if it's stunt doubles or not. I
Speaker 1: really could only tell it was stunt doubles maybe once
Speaker 1: when Dean threw him over the counter at the beginning
Speaker 1: of the fight and he came spilling over. I don't
Speaker 1: think that they would have Milo do that, you know,
Speaker 1: because yeah, because that was that was really violent. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was that was violent. It looked like the stunt
Speaker 1: double hit his back against the counter and it was.
Speaker 1: It was kind of brutal. So does anybody else just
Speaker 1: so worried about that dude's house was like a guy
Speaker 1: stairs the chips, like so much for the chips. But
Speaker 1: that was that was a really violent fight. That was
Speaker 1: really that was a super brutal violence. Those other dudes
Speaker 1: could have pulled them off each other and kept them
Speaker 1: off each other, but they kept but no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: Dean is a big kid. You know he's over he's
Speaker 1: six three whatever, he is six four. That's a big,
Speaker 1: strong kid. Have a question, you guys think one in
Speaker 1: that situation, Dean or nobody wins the fight. I think
Speaker 1: they're all wrong. Nobody wins a fight, Danielle, everybody, everybody.
Speaker 1: I thought Dean one that day, No, because Lindsay is
Speaker 1: going to be so irritated too, Yeah, and he's going
Speaker 1: to be like everybody's going to be like this. But
Speaker 1: I feel like Rory would be upset to that, like
Speaker 1: because it's not like she wanted Dean to punch him either. Like,
Speaker 1: Rory's not a violent person. So I think Rory is
Speaker 1: gonna be upset with Dean as well. I'm gonna say,
Speaker 1: if I'm forced to choose, I think I agree with you,
Speaker 1: daniel I think Dean won the fight. Yeah, because Jess left,
Speaker 1: just left, and Dean was still stayed. I know that
Speaker 1: they were leaving, but he stayed with Rory. And he
Speaker 1: is the one that saw her in distress and was
Speaker 1: like that I'm not standing for that. Well, he you know,
Speaker 1: Jess had that coming. He planted the seeds for that.
Speaker 1: He mistreated Dean throughout. You know that entire his entire
Speaker 1: dating situation. He tried, he broke them up. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: he actually broke those two up. He intentionally tried to
Speaker 1: break them up, and he did so he had a coming. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know what happens moving forward, But where I
Speaker 1: stand right now is I want Rory to break up
Speaker 1: with Jess and get back together with Dean. That's where
Speaker 1: I'm at right now. I don't know I'm even remotely happening.
Speaker 1: It's so odd that, I mean, I think it's kind
Speaker 1: of perfect in TV world and drama world that Rory
Speaker 1: having living her best life, going off to Yale for
Speaker 1: God's sake, and her just such a future, and then
Speaker 1: she's with this guy that she loves, and his situation
Speaker 1: couldn't be worse. I mean, he's just emotionally just gone.
Speaker 1: He's so troubled, this kid, you know, he he really does.
Speaker 1: He's really really struggling. He's really struggling. It's hard to watch.
Speaker 1: I can't. I don't want her to abandon him now.
Speaker 1: I think she has more character than that. She's going
Speaker 1: to hang in there and she's going to try to
Speaker 1: help him out. Agree interesting little trivia, if I may
Speaker 1: give it I don't want to ruin anything for what's coming,
Speaker 1: but it was well known at this point that there
Speaker 1: was a potential spinoff coming with Milow's character Jess. We're
Speaker 1: going to see that. I think a lot of that
Speaker 1: is also building. It didn't happen, though, right they filmed
Speaker 1: the pilot. Yeah, so what happened was I just didn't
Speaker 1: get it didn't get picked up, So so I don't
Speaker 1: I don't know that he was available for shooting more
Speaker 1: Gilmore episodes. I would imagine he was while they're waiting
Speaker 1: for a pickup, because you've gotten months in between that
Speaker 1: that Milo knew the idea would be to spin off
Speaker 1: his character throughout season three. He knew like, okay, they
Speaker 1: were going to create a spinoff for Jess and Daniel.
Speaker 1: I won't ruin it, but you'll see what's coming and
Speaker 1: how they do it. And they work it into two
Speaker 1: episodes of Gilmore Girls that are coming up fairly soon,
Speaker 1: and they shot the pilot I think, and then it
Speaker 1: didn't get a pick up, and so he comes back
Speaker 1: to Gilmore Girls essentially, and you'll see a lot of
Speaker 1: it and soon I mean imminently. M hmm. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: assuming this is during this is the time I'm that
Speaker 1: Dean and Rory kind of reconcile for a second. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna answer. Yeah, we can't. You can't talk
Speaker 1: a moving on. So what do we all take away? So, okay,
Speaker 1: let's give this one out of ten fist fights, ten
Speaker 1: being the biggest fist fight ever, best one being just
Speaker 1: a little. Yeah. I think for TV, you know, with
Speaker 1: a limited amount of time you have to do these things.
Speaker 1: I think that's a ten fists out of ten. I'm
Speaker 1: getting whole episode though. This is my pizza scale for this.
Speaker 1: Oh I thought you just said for the fight. Well,
Speaker 1: I was trying to be clever because it was like
Speaker 1: one out of ten. The pizza were one out of
Speaker 1: ten fist fights. Does anyone have a better one out
Speaker 1: of ten? Kegs, let's do that one out of ten?
Speaker 1: There you go, there you go. It was like an
Speaker 1: eight for me, eight CAGs. I liked it. I did.
Speaker 1: But now that we've really dissected it it, I can
Speaker 1: kind of see I kind of see different sides of it.
Speaker 1: So I was coming into this ten out of ten,
Speaker 1: but I will say now I'm going to I'll give
Speaker 1: it an eight. Oh, I'll knock off two kigs from that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I came into it six kigs and I'm down to
Speaker 1: four kigs because I'm sort of like, I'm really grappling
Speaker 1: with different things from this. So what we know is
Speaker 1: that we've pointed out some awkward scenes, like there's the
Speaker 1: Luke butt thing. We've discussed that a nauseam we have,
Speaker 1: which it deserves turned down service probably, um and uh,
Speaker 1: the your mythological the myth that you're a mythological creature. Ten.
Speaker 1: So that's three scenes three, not three three. That's three
Speaker 1: scenes the hat four four but that but that wasn't
Speaker 1: a bad scene, Okay, but I couldn't even watch the scene.
Speaker 1: You want to you want to feel like we want
Speaker 1: to throw a flag. You want to throw a wardrobe flag.
Speaker 1: That's what you want to do, all right? Um So
Speaker 1: given all that, right, UM, I'm gonna I would have
Speaker 1: given it a god for four scenes, No, three scenes
Speaker 1: in a wardrobe flag. I think we're talking I think
Speaker 1: we're talking about I think we're talking about a seven
Speaker 1: or eight. But that's that's seven or eight kegs. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say maybe seven point five, seven point to five.
Speaker 1: You know, I like to be exact um, Dave Regowski.
Speaker 1: Trust he's adding some kegs for me. He's he's a
Speaker 1: keg Adden kind of dude for me. So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: give it a nine point three kegs. Yeah. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: brought me back so many times, and I was just
Speaker 1: so pleased with a lot of this episode. So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna of at nine point three kigs. I'm gonna stay
Speaker 1: on five, but with with sadness. With sadness, I give
Speaker 1: it five kicks. Because I don't want to give it
Speaker 1: five kicks. I just have to write, right you begrudgingly
Speaker 1: give it five ks. I don't feel good about it,
Speaker 1: but I have to know. I don't know, I know
Speaker 1: sometimes you just have to vote. Move on, Gracie. Say
Speaker 1: good night Gracie. Every time someone says that title that episode,
Speaker 1: say goodnight Gracie, good night Gracie. All right, So, uh,
Speaker 1: I just you know, at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: love this episode. I mean, sure it has some it
Speaker 1: has some pock marks on it. Let's let's just be real.
Speaker 1: But the second viewing was very, very enjoyable. I need
Speaker 1: to do that. Yeah, you should see you should watch it.
Speaker 1: Just get lost in kid world. It's a fun place
Speaker 1: to be. I mean, it is it. It'll take you
Speaker 1: back to your high school days when you're sitting around
Speaker 1: at Kegger's. Man, it's it's just great. It's just great.
Speaker 1: This is the best beer ever. I don't know any
Speaker 1: other type of beer. Oh God, just fantastic. And back
Speaker 1: then we didn't have did we have solo We didn't
Speaker 1: have solo cups back then? When we drink I think
Speaker 1: we did, I mean we did we hear not that
Speaker 1: much older than me, Well, this is the mid seventies. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was like in the nineties. I guess a little bit,
Speaker 1: a little bit my mind. We drink out of We
Speaker 1: drank out of plastic cups and st Yeah they had
Speaker 1: plastic cups, good stone cups, but they were styrefying a
Speaker 1: lot of styrofiled poor environment. Literally, does styrofum even exist anymore?
Speaker 1: For like coffee only in packaging materials, Like sometimes I
Speaker 1: get a box and I feel like if there's like
Speaker 1: something soeramic, But who cares anyway? By guys, that's I digress.
Speaker 1: All right, everybody, great a discussion, I think, Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: this one's gonna like hang with me for a bit. Yeah, same,
Speaker 1: I'm not moving on from it back quit. Yeah. Uh,
Speaker 1: spirited discussion. I think we went we went pretty deep
Speaker 1: on this one, um, But I think an overall great
Speaker 1: episode for sure. All Right, kids, see you next week,
Speaker 1: See you next week. Gang. Hey everybody, and don't forget
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