WEBVTT - Episode 420 w/ Young MC 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:13.760 He is drink champs, motherfucking podcast man. 0:00:15.000 --> 0:00:16.960 He's a legendary queens rapper. 0:00:17.079 --> 0:00:19.240 He's agreed as your boy in O R E. He's 0:00:19.320 --> 0:00:22.640 a Miami hip hop lioneer. What Ups dj E f N? 0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:25.680 Together they drink it up with some of the biggest players, 0:00:25.720 --> 0:00:28.800 you know what I mean? And the most professional, unprofessional 0:00:29.000 --> 0:00:31.280 podcast and your number one source. 0:00:31.080 --> 0:00:34.880 For drunk chans MO every day is New Year's Csten. 0:00:35.000 --> 0:00:43.680 It's time for drink Champions. Drink up, motherfuck mother? Would 0:00:43.680 --> 0:00:45.760 it gonna be hoping? Your boy in O R E? 0:00:46.080 --> 0:00:47.440 What Up? Is d J E f N? 0:00:47.560 --> 0:00:58.440 And this minitipa crazy war podcast. I don't why when 0:00:58.520 --> 0:00:58.960 I tell you. 0:01:02.800 --> 0:01:04.720 We started this show and we said we wanted to 0:01:04.800 --> 0:01:08.559 interview legends, people that came before us, people that paved 0:01:08.600 --> 0:01:09.200 the way for us. 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:14.080 I said this to everyone that was here earlier. 0:01:14.520 --> 0:01:16.600 I said, if I had an artist, I would put 0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:20.160 him through his school of being an MC. I watched 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:23.720 this man rock a party like no one else could 0:01:23.800 --> 0:01:26.840 rock a party. I've watched this man. This, this, This 0:01:26.880 --> 0:01:29.480 is when we when you say an icon, you say 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:31.800 a legend, you say a person that has been in 0:01:31.880 --> 0:01:36.040 this game, monkey footing, this motherfucker going through it and 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:38.600 doing it and continue. 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:43.880 To do it. He came late two minutes later to 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:45.480 me that. 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:53.640 No, it's not, but we have the privilege of interviewing 0:01:53.760 --> 0:02:00.920 and gotten young motherfucker. All right, Now, here's what's crazy. 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:06.920 His what's crazy? When I think of you, I think 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:11.560 of West Coast. But when you google you, yes, they. 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:13.720 Say you're from Queens. Got some in Queens. 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:15.920 Hollis into eleven or one on night, one on one, 0:02:16.000 --> 0:02:20.400 or ninth and two eleventh together. One ninth is here, 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:22.360 two eleventh is here, Hollis is here. 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:24.960 Okay, so it's really the coast of Queens Village because 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:27.799 after Francis Lewis, it's it's Queens Village and then the 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:28.680 other side of Hollis. 0:02:33.120 --> 0:02:34.600 But that's what's crazy. 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:37.480 Is one of the one of one of my favorite 0:02:37.520 --> 0:02:44.440 moments in hip hop period was was was a record 0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:47.160 called All in the Same Game right where that West 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:47.799 Coast unity. 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:50.360 Recently I just seen Kendrick Lamar. 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:54.960 He had put the West Coast together on stage. Now 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:58.359 his what's crazy about that? I'm such of a to 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:00.919 these young guys, I'm such an old to them that 0:03:01.120 --> 0:03:05.119 I looked and I didn't know that that was actually rappers. 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:07.919 Oh yeah. So when I put it together, I was like, 0:03:08.040 --> 0:03:10.200 I didn't see this since all in the same game. 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:14.000 Well, the funny thing what Kendrick did on stage, and 0:03:14.120 --> 0:03:17.240 this is just me watching it and having a visceral reaction. 0:03:17.560 --> 0:03:19.560 It's the culmination of what we were trying to do 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:23.000 with All in the same gang. Because he had different sets. 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:26.359 He had made a big deal of saying, oh, you know, 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:28.760 it's not it's more than records. Now, it's bigger than me. 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:30.120 Now we have sets from. 0:03:30.040 --> 0:03:31.840 All over the place or whatever, because that was the 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:34.720 goal because dude, I mean, dude's still dying, but dude 0:03:34.880 --> 0:03:38.480 was really dying at that point, and just to shine 0:03:38.480 --> 0:03:40.440 a light on it. And the funny thing was that 0:03:40.520 --> 0:03:42.240 the man that put it together my conception and put 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:43.800 it together for him in. 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:47.240 The same game. Yes, okay, Wheelchair. Now. 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:50.520 The interesting thing about that, and I relate some of 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:53.400 that to even even Shug's experience, is that you got 0:03:53.440 --> 0:03:56.480 people that are outside of the music business and they 0:03:56.520 --> 0:04:00.600 were able to you know, cultivate that into something really 0:04:00.680 --> 0:04:02.280 powerful inside of the music busins. I want to say 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:04.320 it was Grand Jury records that Mike had, oh wow, 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:06.360 and so we put out all in the same gang. 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:08.840 But he did stuff after that as well, so. 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:14.400 Circling back, including someone like me from the East Coast. 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:18.640 I don't know a lot about the West Coast, not involved. 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:19.000 In any gangs. 0:04:19.360 --> 0:04:22.200 But to get my perspective on a record like that 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:25.760 shows some foresight, because I could easily see somebody putting 0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:27.520 something like that to get to sell here from out here, 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:29.640 you don't nothing about out here. People know who he is, 0:04:30.080 --> 0:04:31.320 but why do we want to hear what he has 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:33.320 to say? And I still got eight bars on the single. 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:35.880 I got sixteen bars on the long I. 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:43.920 Went. 0:04:44.760 --> 0:04:47.320 I've been touring a lot, you know, the whole time. 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:51.440 My stage muscles are strong. So did you say stage 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:55.200 stage like that? I was telling them people, how good 0:04:55.240 --> 0:04:57.599 your show is? Continue, Well, no, I mean no offense, 0:04:57.680 --> 0:04:59.840 no DJ, no heip man I open. So I have 0:04:59.920 --> 0:05:01.920 to literally just carry my tracks and just go and 0:05:02.000 --> 0:05:03.800 try and get the best show I can. But I 0:05:03.920 --> 0:05:06.800 had not done my same gang verse for years and 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:09.360 years and years, and then I saw an artist do it, 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:11.120 and I'm like, you know, an artist I was on 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:12.960 the record do it, And I'm like, okay, I should 0:05:13.000 --> 0:05:15.120 get on, And I started doing it into my show, 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:17.080 my longer shows. Now I got new music out, so 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:19.840 it'll just be my thirty or whatever that I do 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:22.560 that in. But for several years on this nineties two, 0:05:22.600 --> 0:05:24.719 I've been doing my all in the same gang verse 0:05:24.760 --> 0:05:27.719 and it just fits in, especially people having shorter attention spans. 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:30.360 Whatever sixteen bars, there's a whole record to them, you 0:05:30.400 --> 0:05:30.760 know what I mean. 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:32.080 Was Bus the Move had four. 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:33.839 Sixteen's and all that other stuff. 0:05:33.920 --> 0:05:36.640 So yeah, it's it's just. 0:05:38.400 --> 0:05:40.000 As the years go by, I see the power of 0:05:40.040 --> 0:05:42.920 that record, and as the years go by, I'm more 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:43.359 proud of. 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:44.240 My involvement in it. 0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:46.640 It wasn't just a call and get on And to 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:49.040 even go further, Me and Tone are the only two 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:51.200 people that were in both the self destruction video and 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:52.440 all in the same gang video. 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:54.920 I did not notice that in the video. 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:56.480 In the video, and well, here's the thing. We both 0:05:56.520 --> 0:06:00.080 had Multiplatinum Records, I remember they had. They had a 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:04.080 short scene with us in there. Interesting interestingly enough, they 0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:05.880 wanted to put both They did put both of us 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:08.360 behind a cell and had us saying the hook from 0:06:08.360 --> 0:06:10.280 behind the cell and then somebody from BACKSTD. Now we 0:06:10.360 --> 0:06:12.680 can't have them looking like that. So if there's a 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:14.440 cut you've seen where I'm not in it or we're 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:15.680 not in it, and maybe because. 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:17.280 They took that out, because that so far was with 0:06:17.600 --> 0:06:18.440 just Dice, I think. 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:21.240 I don't even know. 0:06:21.640 --> 0:06:24.160 I don't even But the interesting thing is this is 0:06:24.200 --> 0:06:26.360 a short period of time. I'm a New York kid, 0:06:26.800 --> 0:06:29.400 went out to l a come back, and all my 0:06:29.480 --> 0:06:30.240 heroes in the room. 0:06:30.279 --> 0:06:32.440 So I'm taking pictures. Dude, I'm literally in where. 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:34.840 You should take the back then, please, I'm with you. 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:42.360 We barely had CDs back while these were new on 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:43.120 my phone. 0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:47.719 Exactly, So I'm there taking pictures like a fan, annoying 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:48.240 people whatever. 0:06:48.320 --> 0:06:48.560 Whatever. 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:52.000 I come out for saying gang and I'm a peer. 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:53.760 They're like, all right, well, you know where do we 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:55.800 need young to be blah blah blah. Make sure his 0:06:55.920 --> 0:06:58.559 verse goes here, doctor dre producing me. It's a total 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:02.520 different experience. So I culminate that by saying, if I 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:04.600 stayed in New York, no offense in New York. But 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:05.960 if I stayed in New York, you never would have 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:06.280 heard of me. 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:07.120 You never. 0:07:07.200 --> 0:07:10.120 I couldn't have wrote while thing there. I couldn't, but 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:10.760 I want to. 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:14.880 We started with this record, I want to stay on 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:18.200 here in this second. Is there any awkwardness because think 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:20.760 about the type of record it is. It's about LA culture, 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:24.880 It's about actually territory in a sense, and MCS could 0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:28.480 be territorial. Was there any awkwardness you not being maybe 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:31.480 from their perspective of the culture being on that record 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:32.440 talking about the culture. 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:36.040 Okay, pretty much everybody on that record, I'd played with. 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:38.680 Every everybody on that record I'd shared a stage with, 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:41.680 so even nw A, d OC. 0:07:43.600 --> 0:07:43.960 Cube. 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:46.560 I mean I know Cube from nw A, I knew 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:50.000 Pak from Digital, Like I'm knowing these people at the 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:53.120 beginnings of their career and I'm at the beginning of mine. 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:56.400 It just turned out at the time that when Bust 0:07:56.440 --> 0:07:58.880 to Move hit, I'm you know, I've got my penthouse 0:07:58.920 --> 0:08:00.800 in West Hollywood and I'm just there. I'm not coming, 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:04.440 you know. But I always got respected for what I 0:08:04.480 --> 0:08:07.240 did on the mic. So to answer your question, when 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:10.120 I came on, they wanted to see not only my perspective, 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:11.760 but how I would do it, and that I wasn't 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:14.480 just mailing it in. That it wasn't just like, oh, 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:16.520 I'm young MC and I'm saying my name a bunch 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:18.240 of times. I'm saying bust to move a bunch of times, 0:08:18.280 --> 0:08:20.000 and I'm showing how famous I am on this record. 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:22.680 No, I saw brothers killing other brothers, because that's what I'm. 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:25.080 Seeing everyone recording together, oh separately. 0:08:25.520 --> 0:08:27.800 See you ask the good questions. I show up to 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:30.280 the studio and it's dre one other dude. 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:31.840 They let me in the door. My man is looking 0:08:31.920 --> 0:08:32.360 behind me. 0:08:32.679 --> 0:08:33.120 You know what I mean? 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:35.160 Because there were dudes on that record. 0:08:35.280 --> 0:08:38.440 To your point what happened with Kendrick, there were dudes 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:40.240 on that record that you didn't want in the same room. 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:44.920 That's a territorial literally territorial. 0:08:45.040 --> 0:08:46.280 Yeah, even the video shoot. 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:49.040 The part of the reason why the video shoot was 0:08:49.080 --> 0:08:52.920 cool is because Conception had security. 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:54.280 All over wow. 0:08:56.200 --> 0:08:56.480 FOI. 0:08:57.360 --> 0:08:59.079 I don't know about Foy, but some of it was 0:08:59.120 --> 0:08:59.640 hood security. 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:03.280 Remember they breed in another color. They didn't use blue 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:05.319 and red in the in the video. These green and 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:06.640 something else in yellow I think, or. 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:09.400 Something probably because Yeah, dude, dudes get triggered by seeing colors. 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:09.840 Absolutely. 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:10.240 I remember. 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:12.160 I hate to even bring this up. 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:14.480 I remember when I was younger, I was I was 0:09:17.360 --> 0:09:19.080 a woman I was seeing had talked me into wearing 0:09:19.120 --> 0:09:23.880 a red suit a red jumpsuit to one of my shows, 0:09:23.920 --> 0:09:24.240 and it was. 0:09:24.240 --> 0:09:29.439 At the concept what was thinking? She wasn't thinking, and 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:30.440 I don't know any better. 0:09:30.840 --> 0:09:32.520 So I'm literally getting ready to do my show when 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:34.680 some ship breaks out and dudes is standing in front 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:36.120 of me so they don't see my suit before I 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:39.040 go on stage. And then from that experience and other experiences, 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:41.800 I'm like, Okay, you shouldn't wear this here, you shouldn't 0:09:41.800 --> 0:09:42.199 wear that there. 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:42.800 I didn't know. 0:09:43.000 --> 0:09:44.040 I'm literally I got. 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:46.679 My my entrance to LA was on usc campus, So 0:09:46.720 --> 0:09:48.599 I'm only finding this out as I went. As I 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:53.079 went on, having said that, I know that dudes have 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:54.800 been looking out for me, you know what I mean, 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:57.480 And I want to give them a shout out. 0:09:57.880 --> 0:09:59.760 Just just you know, just on just on GP. 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:02.800 I've had a pretty good experience in this business, seeing 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:04.440 all that I've seen and being around all the people 0:10:04.480 --> 0:10:07.280 that I've been around. But but like same gang, like 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:10.280 I said, as the time goes on, I've really cherished 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:11.320 that experience like that's. 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:12.360 A once in a lifetime thing. 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:14.320 Yeah, it's an incredible Yeah, it. 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:16.200 Definitely what I want to tell you A funny story 0:10:18.520 --> 0:10:23.439 I consider him my friend Jamie Leftrack. Oh god, yeah, 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:27.240 Jamie left Rack right, and I'm in his house and 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:29.560 I didn't realize how rich he was until I got 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:32.480 to his house, right, and then I realized. 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:35.080 I said, this motherfucker is really rich, rich, rich, rich, right. 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:39.200 But so he's telling me the whole time. 0:10:39.320 --> 0:10:42.800 He's like, I'm gonna blow your mind out with these performances. 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:45.640 So I'm like, okay. So he's like, you don't want 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:47.240 me to tell you. I'm like, nah, I'm more of 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:49.439 an organic guy. Just let me just go over there 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:52.360 and let me just see it. I seen him when 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:56.520 you got on stage sing every word for what. I 0:10:56.760 --> 0:11:00.040 was so impressed. And then he says to me, this 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:04.600 is my high school. I had a couple of drinks. 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:08.199 I thought he said he went to high school with you. 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:12.800 I'm like, I've been running around saying, Jamie that record 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:16.319 you see went the school together, mother fuckers. What he 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:19.000 was saying was he was saying, this is my high school, 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:20.840 this experience, this is my whole experience. 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:23.480 And I thought that that was so dope for me 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:26.920 to see a person of that caliber fan out. And 0:11:27.040 --> 0:11:30.240 I'm gonna tell you who else was fanning out. I 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:32.520 don't know if you've seen it. You said high to him? 0:11:33.200 --> 0:11:36.480 Was DJ Collin? DJ College? When you got on stage, 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:38.560 I was mad that DJ Collin knew just as much 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:40.200 as words I knew. I was like, man, you better 0:11:40.240 --> 0:11:40.559 stop it. 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:53.320 But do you understand that these kids nowadays, records go away. 0:11:54.000 --> 0:11:57.000 It's a disposable and you have a record that's. 0:11:56.920 --> 0:12:01.320 Thirty over, thirty years, thirty five year, thirty five years. 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:08.959 To me, I just watched you that day, and I've 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:10.760 been a couple of year shows, you know, I snuck 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:14.040 in a couple of times, and I just see that, 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:19.880 And that's what that's. If I was listening to young artists, 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:21.559 was to come up to me right now, I would say, 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:23.640 this is this is who you should follow, This is 0:12:23.720 --> 0:12:28.880 how it should be. Because but then you got these 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:31.560 people who got records right now, it just go away. 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:34.440 When you hear records like that that just go away, 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:36.480 what do you think. 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:38.160 It's the industry? 0:12:38.600 --> 0:12:42.480 I mean it went from a physical product like you 0:12:42.640 --> 0:12:45.240 have where you see a picture and you see liner 0:12:45.320 --> 0:12:48.160 notes and you see all these things that it's it's 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:50.920 something that you own of the artist, to streaming and 0:12:51.040 --> 0:12:52.120 downloads and it's. 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:55.480 Air you just connected, right, So what is it? What 0:12:55.640 --> 0:12:56.120 is the artist? 0:12:56.160 --> 0:12:58.640 What is the fan commitment or what is the listener's 0:12:58.640 --> 0:12:59.640 commitment to the artists? 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:00.240 Today? Right? 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:03.000 Two minutes so you can get the stream. 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:05.400 Money but minute and a half and they listen to 0:13:05.520 --> 0:13:09.000 what seventy eighty one hundred songs a day? So how 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:10.880 do you expect them to commit to you enough to say, Okay, 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:13.480 I'm gonna come out to a show. Then the real 0:13:13.520 --> 0:13:17.760 money's in the shows, and then you got But the 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:19.920 shows aren't necessarily as important to the labels unless they 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:21.520 have a three to sixty deal, So you got the 0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:25.120 artist for whatever reason not putting the emphasis on show 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:28.360 performance as they should, because the record's become disposable. Who 0:13:28.400 --> 0:13:30.040 gets it on it? Who did the track? Where's the 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:35.000 sample from? It's like for me, I'm looking at like 0:13:35.120 --> 0:13:37.400 every record I make, if it's the last, if it's 0:13:37.440 --> 0:13:38.480 the last song I ever make. 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:40.000 I wanted to be the best song I ever make. 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:42.559 Every show that I do, for the most part, every 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:45.280 show that I do, especially publicly, I want it to 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:47.559 be the best, the best show that I can physically do, 0:13:48.080 --> 0:13:50.719 because I don't want somebody seeing it saying, oh you 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:52.840 know what I mean, this is this is my analogy. 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:53.079 Is this. 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:55.480 I got new music out, so I'm a fifty seven 0:13:55.559 --> 0:14:03.000 year old rapper. That's what the song I now is 0:14:03.040 --> 0:14:05.079 called loose fun pause following behind it. But I'm a 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:08.240 fifty seven year old rapper. I equate that to driving 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:10.360 on the highway and you getting some traffic and you 0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:11.959 see that there's an accident on the side of the 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:14.360 road and people are slowing down. It's slowing down to 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:16.199 look over see if they see a leg sticking out. 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:18.440 That's how they look at a fifty seven year old 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:20.960 rapper's career, because I would look at it like that, 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:22.680 like what is he doing making records like that? But 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:25.040 I've been on stage so much that I love it. 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:28.880 I mean, I love it the idea. It's the first 0:14:28.920 --> 0:14:30.840 time I've made music with the stage in mind. Like, 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:32.040 how is this going to translate to. 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:35.480 The correct I mean, you made the record for the stage? Absolutely, okay, 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:36.720 that's deep. Absolutely. 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:38.880 Usually you make the record saying, oh, well, what i'll 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:41.520 it do for radio? And what's the genre and is 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:44.320 it you know, just all those things, and you got 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:47.200 to worry about the short attention span. So the set 0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:48.840 that I did probably is a twenty minute set, and 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:50.960 I probably had eight songs in it, you know the 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:54.240 one that you saw because it went from three verses 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:58.960 to two verses on some to one verse on some records. Well, 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:00.760 I'm just a bang bang bang bang bang, so that 0:15:01.080 --> 0:15:03.400 if there's a record you don't like, just wait a minute. 0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:05.080 It'll be like Miami Weather, just wait a minute. 0:15:05.120 --> 0:15:05.520 It'll know. 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:09.480 That'll change something, that changes something that you like. 0:15:09.920 --> 0:15:12.840 So I went into making these new songs with that 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:16.000 in mind, like, Okay, you know three sixteens are out, 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:19.640 so let's go sixteen twelve. Eight, Let's go sixteen, you know, 0:15:19.920 --> 0:15:22.280 sixteen twelve, and then repeat something from the first verse 0:15:22.800 --> 0:15:26.000 just to reinforce things. But also then I know I 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:28.120 can do the whole record on stage, as opposed to saying, Okay, 0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:29.520 what verse am I going to cut out. 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:31.000 To do this on stage? 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:33.640 So yeah, man, I mean that if I was in 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:37.760 any other business, i'd be behind a desk, CEO or 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:41.960 see something. Oh, knowing so much in my experience and 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:45.040 all that, in this business, they want to dispose of 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:47.960 you in your late thirties, to be honest, So I'm 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:50.120 just looking at it, you know, in a different way. 0:15:50.120 --> 0:15:53.000 Approaching it, but his was all about your show. Like 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:54.280 I said, I've been to others. 0:15:56.800 --> 0:15:59.720 I have a limo when it comes to me doing music, 0:15:59.840 --> 0:16:02.400 Like my DJ literally has to go and we'll look 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:05.760 at the crowd, right and my DJ has to say, Okay, 0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:10.120 we're gonna be Latino tonight. Oh we're gonna be you know, 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:13.280 we're gonna be hard call. He has to look at 0:16:13.320 --> 0:16:15.440 the crowd. You are one of them artists that I 0:16:15.480 --> 0:16:16.720 don't think you have to do that at all. 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:20.360 Yeah, well, not from the stage. I try and do 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:22.720 my do my homework before I get on stage. But 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:25.080 I have a little player that I that I use that. 0:16:27.320 --> 0:16:27.840 And it's a it. 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:31.760 It literally has about thirty to forty different show versions 0:16:31.840 --> 0:16:34.640 and links in there. Oh so so literally I can 0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:36.880 look and say, Okay, this is more of a dance crowd. 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:39.080 This is more of a you know, not even an 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:41.400 urban crowd. But you know, I'll do more mid tempos 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:43.200 and these are people that are more in this kind 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:45.040 of thing, and I'll have a set and a set 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:46.480 link that will appeal to Now man. 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:49.560 That's professional. Yeah, so well, season the stage hurt, dude. 0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:52.000 This this nineties tour I've been on this nineties tour 0:16:52.120 --> 0:16:56.120 since twenty fifteen, and we're probably you know, even even 0:16:56.160 --> 0:16:58.600 with COVID, we're talking between four and five hundred shows. 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:02.920 Twenty sixteen, I did one hundred and like one hundred 0:17:02.920 --> 0:17:06.280 and ten shows myself. Julio God Wrestling did like one 0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:09.119 point fifty in a year because they were going Thursday, 0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:13.359 Thursday to Sunday every week, you know what I mean. 0:17:13.440 --> 0:17:14.920 So I would do three three days a week and 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:16.600 four days a week sometimes, but I was still was 0:17:16.600 --> 0:17:20.159 well over one hundred for that year. So in doing that, 0:17:20.880 --> 0:17:22.600 I started on I started with CDs. 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:23.480 I'm like, oh yeah. 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:25.800 Then somebody put the CD player close to too close 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:28.200 to the speakers. It shit started jumping and got to 0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:32.280 find something. I find my digital player and just if 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:35.080 I can do it, I went in the studio, massed 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:38.040 all the shows, did all the show links, put them in, 0:17:38.280 --> 0:17:40.320 name them so literally I know, Okay, how much are 0:17:40.320 --> 0:17:40.800 we doing tonight? 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:41.560 What's the crowd like? 0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:45.359 Blah blah blah, and picked the show and go and 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:48.240 that way I know what I'm doing. I literally have 0:17:48.359 --> 0:17:50.159 this thing where when I'm driving to the airport, I 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:52.280 rehearsed the show that I'm doing that night. I've done 0:17:52.359 --> 0:17:54.760 Busting New thousands of times, still going to rehearse it 0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:57.000 on the way to the airport, you know, just to 0:17:57.119 --> 0:17:58.720 have it in my short term memory. 0:17:58.960 --> 0:17:59.879 But when I get on stage in. 0:17:59.840 --> 0:18:03.560 The time, and it's crazy because for some reason, it's 0:18:03.600 --> 0:18:05.400 like bust to Move is like it's like a white 0:18:05.400 --> 0:18:08.080 boy anthem too, like the white people love that shit. 0:18:09.840 --> 0:18:12.000 Yeah, I mean, I guess, I mean, I just I 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:14.159 just saw it in a in a prescription drug commercial 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:16.879 the other day. Really yeah, my boy has sent me 0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:19.280 a video of it, and I was like, okay, I 0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:20.760 mean I think it was like for an eye, it 0:18:20.800 --> 0:18:23.720 was literally like irritable bowel syndrome drug like bust to Move. 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:28.600 No, no, you got that. 0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:31.640 Place. 0:18:33.680 --> 0:18:36.800 But the funny thing is if you know what pharmaceutical 0:18:36.840 --> 0:18:38.920 companies go through in terms of what they picked so 0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:41.920 that it doesn't affect their brand. You know, I'm not 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:44.040 even thinking about my brand as much as like to 0:18:44.160 --> 0:18:46.640 get to that point. You know, with all the all 0:18:46.640 --> 0:18:48.119 the places that the records men, I can tell you 0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:50.280 stories about different people that have said it and used 0:18:50.320 --> 0:18:52.200 it and stories that I've seen and all that just 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:55.359 adds to it as opposed to you know, one placement 0:18:55.400 --> 0:18:56.840 being a representation of everything I do. 0:18:57.160 --> 0:18:59.639 So please tell me that all your business was correct 0:18:59.680 --> 0:19:02.200 when you created that record, so that the publishing that 0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:05.240 you've that's been generated as yours. 0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:08.560 Listen in a moment that that was. That was the 0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:09.400 number one question. 0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:12.000 Okay, plus the records that you've written. But let's just 0:19:12.040 --> 0:19:13.240 stick move right now. 0:19:13.320 --> 0:19:13.600 Okay. 0:19:14.520 --> 0:19:17.480 Literally, when I wrote Bust to Move, my original record 0:19:17.520 --> 0:19:19.200 deal gave away my publishing. 0:19:20.320 --> 0:19:23.000 So but I knew this, right, I knew this. Well, 0:19:23.040 --> 0:19:24.840 hold on, I knew this as I. 0:19:24.880 --> 0:19:28.119 Was making the record, So you didn't have you published. 0:19:28.400 --> 0:19:29.960 I knew I didn't have that. I mean, that's just 0:19:30.040 --> 0:19:31.800 what it was, you know what I mean. You signed, 0:19:31.880 --> 0:19:33.600 You signed a deal that the people knew, a deal 0:19:33.640 --> 0:19:37.400 you were saying, right, right. But I'm learning more as 0:19:37.640 --> 0:19:39.120 time goes on. So Bust to Move was the last 0:19:39.160 --> 0:19:41.359 record I make. So I write Bust to Move, and 0:19:41.480 --> 0:19:43.840 I read it to the label owners over the phone 0:19:44.119 --> 0:19:45.719 and they say they like it. And they said, good, Well, 0:19:45.760 --> 0:19:47.159 I'm going to sell it to this person over at 0:19:47.240 --> 0:19:48.960 RCA unless you give me by publishing on this in 0:19:49.000 --> 0:19:50.920 the next two or two records I got published on 0:19:51.000 --> 0:19:52.080 the first three singles. 0:19:51.800 --> 0:19:52.320 Just for doing that. 0:19:53.400 --> 0:19:58.680 So and it's and I'm in college at the time. 0:19:58.720 --> 0:20:01.080 I'm doing this from a dorm room, you know what 0:20:01.119 --> 0:20:04.880 I mean. But I looked at it like, this is mine. 0:20:04.920 --> 0:20:06.240 I knew what it was going to be. And and 0:20:06.560 --> 0:20:09.399 and at that point Tones Records had come out, or 0:20:09.400 --> 0:20:11.399 at least wild Thing had come out, and obviously I 0:20:11.440 --> 0:20:12.359 didn't have publishing on that. 0:20:12.920 --> 0:20:18.920 So I'm I'm here wild I wrote, let's let's we 0:20:19.040 --> 0:20:20.960 got we got plenty of time. We gotta talk to 0:20:21.440 --> 0:20:22.600 these things through. I'm sorry. 0:20:22.920 --> 0:20:25.320 Everything intertwined so it seems like I'm all over the place. 0:20:28.400 --> 0:20:31.520 No worry, Okay, So hold up a drink, because that's 0:20:31.800 --> 0:20:38.200 because when if it rolls up if and has that 0:20:38.920 --> 0:20:42.960 kid on that tone, and I'm like, why do you 0:20:43.080 --> 0:20:43.600 have tone? 0:20:44.600 --> 0:20:45.000 You know? 0:20:45.480 --> 0:20:46.200 I didn't know? 0:20:47.080 --> 0:20:50.159 He goes you didn't know, and I go no, He 0:20:50.280 --> 0:20:54.040 goes here he wrote, well, all right, so you gotta 0:20:54.080 --> 0:20:56.520 bring it down please, thank you. Tone was a delicious 0:20:56.560 --> 0:20:56.760 with me. 0:20:58.040 --> 0:21:00.360 I had made. I think I had made Principles. 0:20:59.920 --> 0:21:01.879 Office already, and ironically that was supposed to be my 0:21:01.920 --> 0:21:05.480 first single, and I'm glad. I'm glad that it wasn't. 0:21:07.280 --> 0:21:10.600 But they gave Tone the track to wild Thing, and 0:21:10.640 --> 0:21:12.600 they had him write some stuff and they didn't feel 0:21:12.600 --> 0:21:14.520 it was you know, it was a little too raunchy 0:21:14.600 --> 0:21:16.080 for what they wanted to do, especially with a rock 0:21:16.160 --> 0:21:17.960 track China, you know, cross. 0:21:17.760 --> 0:21:18.400 Off on radio. 0:21:19.359 --> 0:21:23.400 So they come to me and I am like, full 0:21:23.480 --> 0:21:26.000 on New York MC, like nobody writes for anybody else. 0:21:26.040 --> 0:21:26.920 What are you talking about? 0:21:27.119 --> 0:21:27.280 You know? 0:21:27.560 --> 0:21:29.680 And especially because I've seen wild Thing blow up, I'm like, 0:21:29.760 --> 0:21:30.680 when am I coming out? 0:21:30.680 --> 0:21:31.800 What am I gonna? You know what I mean? Or 0:21:32.320 --> 0:21:34.560 rather no, because this is really in the. 0:21:34.560 --> 0:21:36.560 Writing of wild Thing, I just felt that I was 0:21:36.600 --> 0:21:37.280 waiting a long time. 0:21:37.359 --> 0:21:40.760 Had you already written and recording? No move Bus The 0:21:40.840 --> 0:21:41.679 move was written. 0:21:41.440 --> 0:21:44.040 And recorded after wand Thing and Funky Comadina were not 0:21:44.160 --> 0:21:46.480 only made, but it come out. So that's why I'm 0:21:46.560 --> 0:21:48.679 confusing a little bit. But basically, I'm like, why am 0:21:48.720 --> 0:21:50.640 I waiting so long? I get signed in eighty seven, 0:21:50.840 --> 0:21:53.560 my record doesn't drop, you know til almost two years later. 0:21:54.280 --> 0:21:56.880 Now you're you're at me, you know, in eighty eight, 0:21:57.400 --> 0:21:59.920 know how barely come out? They just got on Island 0:22:00.160 --> 0:22:02.560 and they want me to They want me to. 0:22:02.560 --> 0:22:05.080 Write for Tone and this is delicious. Vinyl is yeah, 0:22:05.080 --> 0:22:06.080 this is a delicious vinyl. 0:22:06.800 --> 0:22:11.480 So I say, okay, I said, fine, give me half hour, 0:22:11.480 --> 0:22:13.760 I'll give you a record. Literally talk to him on 0:22:13.800 --> 0:22:16.200 the phone. Thirty five minutes later. I gave him four verses, 0:22:17.359 --> 0:22:20.159 and three of the verses are verbatim and wild Thing. 0:22:20.480 --> 0:22:20.760 Wow. 0:22:21.280 --> 0:22:25.439 Now, me and Tone have always been cool, but at 0:22:25.440 --> 0:22:27.119 the time, the label of told Tone that they had 0:22:27.160 --> 0:22:30.560 wrote it right because they felt that he wouldn't take 0:22:30.640 --> 0:22:31.680 it if he knew that I was. 0:22:31.760 --> 0:22:34.399 Label said they wrote it like literally the guys that 0:22:34.480 --> 0:22:36.760 are on the label. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they said that. 0:22:37.000 --> 0:22:37.600 Now mind you. 0:22:39.080 --> 0:22:42.960 I mean yeah yeah, I mean the liner notes all 0:22:43.000 --> 0:22:44.480 that doesn't out, so he can't tell him. See, So 0:22:44.520 --> 0:22:46.440 we spoken and he, you know, found out that I 0:22:46.520 --> 0:22:48.880 did it. He was cool with it, and once again, 0:22:48.880 --> 0:22:51.520 it's years are going on. We see how incredible that 0:22:51.640 --> 0:22:54.200 relationship is and what we mean to each other's lives. 0:22:54.240 --> 0:22:57.200 Because he credits me, obviously for writing some of his 0:22:57.240 --> 0:23:00.639 biggest hits, but I credit him for showing me the blueprint. 0:23:01.200 --> 0:23:05.359 Because if Buster Move is coming out and there's no 0:23:05.520 --> 0:23:07.919 Wild Thing and no Funky Comadina, I don't know what. 0:23:08.000 --> 0:23:10.040 The ceiling is, right, because those are huge records. 0:23:10.200 --> 0:23:12.480 Yeah, I get to be at that point. I'm like 0:23:14.760 --> 0:23:15.560 going in circles. 0:23:15.880 --> 0:23:18.639 When me and Tone whin wild Thing was finished, we 0:23:18.800 --> 0:23:21.200 hoped they would sell fifty two, one hundred thousand records. 0:23:21.240 --> 0:23:22.600 He's like he wanted to buy a car, and I 0:23:22.640 --> 0:23:24.399 wanted to pay off my student loans. That was That 0:23:24.720 --> 0:23:28.880 was literally the conversation that we have goal Yeah, four million. 0:23:29.720 --> 0:23:32.000 One million, saving I'm mind you four million singles, to 0:23:32.040 --> 0:23:34.000 the point where the labels like, h maybe we should 0:23:34.000 --> 0:23:36.680 stop pressing singles, maybe we should start pressing out album. 0:23:37.240 --> 0:23:37.400 Right. 0:23:38.040 --> 0:23:39.760 The only thing that could even come closer it was 0:23:39.800 --> 0:23:42.000 We're the World. That was the only thing that was 0:23:42.080 --> 0:23:44.439 that was close to it. So that's that's wild Thing. 0:23:44.840 --> 0:23:48.120 Buster and Move stayed on the Billboard two hundred charts 0:23:48.240 --> 0:23:52.879 for forty weeks. Forty weeks outlasted my second single, outlasted 0:23:52.960 --> 0:23:53.800 my third single. 0:23:54.280 --> 0:23:58.080 It's it's like when you have success like that. 0:23:58.320 --> 0:24:01.800 I would not trade that period from mid eighty eight 0:24:02.280 --> 0:24:05.920 to mid ninety I would not trade that period for 0:24:06.080 --> 0:24:08.760 anybody else in the world in terms of the experience 0:24:08.800 --> 0:24:12.000 of what the impact we had on hip hop, the 0:24:12.119 --> 0:24:12.840 music business. 0:24:13.400 --> 0:24:14.639 You know, my Grammy was. 0:24:14.640 --> 0:24:17.119 The first televised Grammy. All of that stuff happening in 0:24:17.160 --> 0:24:19.960 that period of time. It's like, dude, I can't be 0:24:20.080 --> 0:24:23.480 mad or bitter about anything. Havn't experienced that. And when 0:24:23.600 --> 0:24:26.240 me and Tone get together and we talk is great, 0:24:26.680 --> 0:24:26.840 you know. 0:24:27.560 --> 0:24:29.359 And on that note, I'm gonna lead the conversations a 0:24:29.359 --> 0:24:29.639 little bit. 0:24:30.080 --> 0:24:32.639 I got a shout out Kyle Eustace because Kyle is 0:24:32.720 --> 0:24:36.600 a writer that knows that fing really well and helped 0:24:36.640 --> 0:24:38.879 make this happen. But she did an interview with me 0:24:39.000 --> 0:24:41.160 and Tone where some of the stuff started coming out 0:24:41.680 --> 0:24:45.879 and she gets stuff all online and it was just 0:24:46.000 --> 0:24:49.240 it just really made it really opened my eyes because 0:24:49.840 --> 0:24:51.840 how I just throw the names around. These are my friends, 0:24:51.880 --> 0:24:54.920 these are my life experiences. But other people react because people, 0:24:55.160 --> 0:24:58.760 you know, people are legends. I don't consider myself a legend, 0:24:59.080 --> 0:25:01.480 but of people are you know that I've been around 0:25:01.520 --> 0:25:04.080 the legends. One last thing i'mnna blow your mind. Guess 0:25:04.119 --> 0:25:08.160 who my first DJ was? Battle Cat? Oh shit, battle 0:25:08.200 --> 0:25:10.640 Cat battle Cat Yeah, the battle Cat. 0:25:10.720 --> 0:25:10.880 Wow. 0:25:11.960 --> 0:25:15.000 He was out with me and then we couldn't find him. 0:25:15.400 --> 0:25:17.560 And and when I heard I've not discussed this with him, 0:25:17.600 --> 0:25:19.000 but when I heard, he got locked up, but it 0:25:19.119 --> 0:25:21.360 was something something we got jammed up in and three 0:25:21.400 --> 0:25:23.040 weeks went by and I had to hire somebody else, 0:25:23.040 --> 0:25:24.720 So hied I want to say at that time, Julio 0:25:24.800 --> 0:25:30.920 G another mixed master, right, God the mixed master is 0:25:31.000 --> 0:25:32.800 when when we were coming out in Delicious, m Walk 0:25:32.800 --> 0:25:34.960 who was a mixed master. That's tones DJ to this day. 0:25:35.560 --> 0:25:38.159 And then Tony G, who was like the godfather all 0:25:38.160 --> 0:25:39.879 of them. He was the DJ for the majority of 0:25:39.920 --> 0:25:42.880 the time, you know what I mean. So and when 0:25:42.960 --> 0:25:45.080 Tony and when Tony G it was too much on 0:25:45.160 --> 0:25:47.359 the road for Tony G. So we literally had an audition. 0:25:47.480 --> 0:25:49.800 My man Eric you know, won the audition. He was 0:25:49.840 --> 0:25:52.480 my DJ till I stopp having DJs, you know what 0:25:52.520 --> 0:25:55.080 I mean. But it goes back to that much. If 0:25:55.119 --> 0:25:56.439 you saw the shirt that I was wearing in here, 0:25:56.440 --> 0:25:58.959 it's it's the little bird record player, like that's how 0:25:58.960 --> 0:26:02.119 I look at my old school. It comes from the vinyl. 0:26:02.200 --> 0:26:04.600 For me, it comes from That's the essence. It doesn't 0:26:04.880 --> 0:26:09.080 come from instruments as much as it comes from I mean, 0:26:09.720 --> 0:26:11.480 he I want to say he was a mixed master. 0:26:11.560 --> 0:26:14.760 So if I'm going to KD you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:26:14.760 --> 0:26:18.600 they literally had a statement. Yeah, a stable of the 0:26:18.720 --> 0:26:21.320 best DJs and the best known DJs in l A. 0:26:21.800 --> 0:26:23.440 And for a lot of these cats, it's the first 0:26:23.440 --> 0:26:25.520 time to really get out and travel, you know what 0:26:25.560 --> 0:26:27.480 I mean, with all the places we're going. 0:26:28.160 --> 0:26:30.920 So, yeah, who is that on your shirt? Okay? 0:26:31.480 --> 0:26:36.680 This is an AI representation of me on stage? No, no, no, 0:26:39.840 --> 0:26:41.600 this one is this go Teresa. 0:26:41.680 --> 0:26:43.679 This is my AI character. I know you guys have discussed. 0:26:44.880 --> 0:26:47.280 So it's an AI character. It's like she's like the 0:26:47.560 --> 0:26:51.560 label mascot. She's on all my new records. So I'll 0:26:51.640 --> 0:26:55.840 picture like this, you got you d Okay, if you 0:26:55.920 --> 0:26:59.119 look at a label tag or a producer tag, you 0:26:59.160 --> 0:27:06.480 knows me well you know, uh yeah, okay, maybe that 0:27:06.640 --> 0:27:10.160 music me, especially during COVID have a lot of downtime. 0:27:10.200 --> 0:27:13.080 I'm like, okay, if you took this first thing, I 0:27:13.160 --> 0:27:15.080 didn't even know, like the Mayback music was actually a 0:27:15.119 --> 0:27:17.119 person I thought it was a you know, voice program 0:27:17.280 --> 0:27:19.680 like series. Yeah, So I said, okay, if you took 0:27:19.760 --> 0:27:22.959 that and you fully animated it where it was literally 0:27:23.440 --> 0:27:24.080 an element in. 0:27:24.119 --> 0:27:26.320 The track that could answer you what would that be like? 0:27:26.920 --> 0:27:29.159 So I created it on the audio side, and then 0:27:29.200 --> 0:27:31.399 we got a video that's pretty much all AI for 0:27:31.560 --> 0:27:34.520 loose that that creates it on the video side, and 0:27:34.640 --> 0:27:37.240 I literally, as the singles go on, I'm having an 0:27:37.280 --> 0:27:38.560 AI character kind. 0:27:38.400 --> 0:27:40.879 Of like like cod with me on the records. 0:27:41.240 --> 0:27:41.760 It's crazy. 0:27:41.840 --> 0:27:44.000 Yeah, yeah, when you hear it as Zoe and I 0:27:44.080 --> 0:27:45.080 won't even lie like that. 0:27:45.680 --> 0:27:47.639 That's the thing that's motivated me to make records at 0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:49.720 this age because I could be like whatever, especially if 0:27:49.720 --> 0:27:51.080 you're doing the same thing over and over again. If 0:27:51.080 --> 0:27:52.840 I want to get through through sixteens, I'm like, I 0:27:52.880 --> 0:27:54.240 got to do something that's interesting. 0:27:54.600 --> 0:27:57.200 So for me, that's interesting. Disco theory districts all that. 0:28:00.840 --> 0:28:02.720 We had will I am on here and he was 0:28:03.840 --> 0:28:09.359 describing this AI ship and then he had his AI 0:28:09.720 --> 0:28:10.840 turned British on us. 0:28:11.119 --> 0:28:11.920 It was spooky. 0:28:13.200 --> 0:28:13.440 Yeah. 0:28:13.840 --> 0:28:17.920 For me, I just wanted I'm very rudimentary, just I 0:28:17.960 --> 0:28:20.240 don't want it to imitate anybody. I don't want it 0:28:20.280 --> 0:28:23.560 to be anybody. I wanted to be an element in 0:28:23.960 --> 0:28:26.000 my music. That's all I wanted. That's that's all I 0:28:26.080 --> 0:28:26.440 wanted to be. 0:28:26.600 --> 0:28:28.840 So it's an old school artists. You're accepting AI. 0:28:28.960 --> 0:28:31.200 That is you're saying yeah, because a lot of people 0:28:31.320 --> 0:28:34.040 don't except like, especially what's going on right now, you 0:28:34.080 --> 0:28:34.520 know Drake. 0:28:35.080 --> 0:28:37.199 Actually it depends on how you accept it, and then 0:28:38.000 --> 0:28:40.920 you expect you don't want AI to start just generating music. 0:28:41.520 --> 0:28:43.800 In South Art, I had people come to me like, yo, yo, 0:28:43.960 --> 0:28:45.320 make a hundred songs a day. You want to make 0:28:45.360 --> 0:28:45.640 a song? 0:28:45.680 --> 0:28:48.800 I'm like, no, well, you know I'm using it for 0:28:48.880 --> 0:28:50.800 a specific purpose, for a specific reason. 0:28:50.880 --> 0:28:53.720 No, you know in ways that someone hasn't used it before. 0:28:54.040 --> 0:28:57.160 But all that stuff would imitating voices and and and 0:28:57.760 --> 0:29:00.120 without the estate's permission online, I'm not with that, and 0:29:00.240 --> 0:29:02.040 that's not something I would I would use it for. 0:29:02.480 --> 0:29:05.160 I use the technology in my mind to make the 0:29:05.240 --> 0:29:08.080 music better. And it's kind of interesting because I'm One 0:29:08.120 --> 0:29:10.440 of my weird quirks that I have is that when 0:29:10.480 --> 0:29:12.840 we were working on twenty four track tape, I literally 0:29:12.920 --> 0:29:15.400 can have all the tracks memorized and know that we 0:29:15.480 --> 0:29:17.280 had enough or didn't have enough before we even laid 0:29:17.320 --> 0:29:19.920 a single beat down. So now I'm thinking in three 0:29:19.960 --> 0:29:22.160 dimensions when I'm making a record, like, Okay, if I 0:29:22.280 --> 0:29:23.600 leave a space here, I can have the A I 0:29:23.680 --> 0:29:25.200 say this if I leave a space there, or if 0:29:25.200 --> 0:29:26.720 I could have the AI say this, and lead me 0:29:26.760 --> 0:29:29.640 blah blah blah. So being able to think it's kind 0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:31.560 of spurred me on in terms of how I'm writing. 0:29:32.120 --> 0:29:34.040 So it's like being in a group and the AI 0:29:34.680 --> 0:29:36.920 kind of kind of but but but it's not. 0:29:37.160 --> 0:29:39.200 It's funny I got when I put the record out, 0:29:39.200 --> 0:29:41.760 I got a comment online like, oh, you signed disco Teresa. 0:29:41.840 --> 0:29:43.840 What other artists you're gonna sign. I'm like, she's not 0:29:43.920 --> 0:29:44.680 an artist. 0:29:45.120 --> 0:29:47.040 She's not even a she's not even a she. 0:29:47.320 --> 0:29:47.840 You know what I mean. 0:29:47.920 --> 0:29:50.520 It's just like, it's just it's. 0:29:50.400 --> 0:29:52.120 An it, it's an It's an element that I wanted 0:29:52.160 --> 0:29:53.720 to put in music. Like I said, like, I haven't 0:29:53.760 --> 0:29:56.240 seen people use before, but I still want to have 0:29:56.400 --> 0:29:58.560 my artistry be the forefront of all of it. 0:30:00.000 --> 0:30:00.320 I want to. 0:30:00.680 --> 0:30:04.760 I want to ask you because my engineer peeped it 0:30:04.760 --> 0:30:06.480 when I walked in. When I walked in and I 0:30:06.560 --> 0:30:09.400 was telling everybody, and I was like, yo, I bet 0:30:09.480 --> 0:30:11.560 he has a different version of Tupac. 0:30:13.800 --> 0:30:20.400 Yeah, because one of the things that I love is people. 0:30:20.240 --> 0:30:24.000 That met Pak prior to him going to death role 0:30:24.040 --> 0:30:28.240 because I mean me being I know Geminis. 0:30:30.360 --> 0:30:32.840 Jesus relax, but I know Gemini. 0:30:33.000 --> 0:30:36.320 What I'm trying to say, is like it's two different people, right, 0:30:36.400 --> 0:30:40.720 but you h you W. I like to say, probably 0:30:40.800 --> 0:30:43.320 know the original version of pac. 0:30:43.880 --> 0:30:46.640 I knew Park as a member of Digital Okay, and 0:30:46.880 --> 0:30:48.640 and if you don't mind, I'm gonna take. 0:30:48.560 --> 0:30:50.840 You on a little trip. We got off We got 0:30:50.920 --> 0:30:52.320 off board and passed, let's go. 0:30:54.320 --> 0:30:56.640 This goes to something to one of the main reasons 0:30:56.680 --> 0:30:58.640 I don't drink today. Okay, when I was when I 0:30:58.720 --> 0:31:01.040 was a kid eleven, I'm twelve years old, I had 0:31:01.080 --> 0:31:03.840 a liver disorder, went to the hospital, lost a bunch 0:31:03.880 --> 0:31:06.479 of weight. They told me not to drink in my teens. 0:31:06.880 --> 0:31:08.160 So by the time I was able to drink in 0:31:08.200 --> 0:31:10.120 my early twenties, I drank a little bit. Didn't like 0:31:10.200 --> 0:31:11.880 the feeling of not being in control of my body 0:31:11.920 --> 0:31:14.360 and just where my mind was, so I stayed away 0:31:14.400 --> 0:31:18.480 from it. So years went by, and normally, if I 0:31:18.600 --> 0:31:20.920 was in a situation and I was offered a drink, 0:31:20.960 --> 0:31:22.920 I just wouldn't take it. Then one time I was 0:31:23.120 --> 0:31:25.360 in a circle where I just couldn't turn it down. 0:31:25.480 --> 0:31:26.840 Bottle was being passed and I think this is the 0:31:26.920 --> 0:31:28.400 only time in my life that I've taken a bottle 0:31:28.440 --> 0:31:31.400 from somebody. Gentlemen passed a bottle to me and said, 0:31:31.440 --> 0:31:34.960 we're gonna toast this person, right, and it's the same person, 0:31:35.040 --> 0:31:36.320 by the way that I saw due to all in 0:31:36.360 --> 0:31:39.560 the same gang verse. So I take the drink and 0:31:39.600 --> 0:31:42.680 it's Hennessy something sweet, so it may maybe Hennessy, but 0:31:42.680 --> 0:31:43.600 there's a bottle passed. 0:31:43.400 --> 0:31:45.720 Run claiming on Hendessy. Now alcohol period, we continue. 0:31:47.880 --> 0:31:50.960 The person who passed me the bottle was Shocked G. 0:31:52.440 --> 0:31:56.160 The person that I was toasting was Tupac. And that's 0:31:56.760 --> 0:31:59.480 probably twenty years ago. And that's the last drink that 0:31:59.520 --> 0:31:59.960 I've taken. 0:32:00.560 --> 0:32:02.920 So your last drink you ever had is with shock 0:32:03.000 --> 0:32:07.080 G and Tupac. That's kind of drink, proper drink. 0:32:07.400 --> 0:32:09.800 But that's what I'm saying. It's like it's a personal choice. 0:32:09.840 --> 0:32:12.120 First it was health, then a personal choice, and now 0:32:12.800 --> 0:32:15.040 I'm not going to start drinking now. If you know 0:32:15.120 --> 0:32:17.440 I put it in that perspective, you know what I mean. 0:32:17.480 --> 0:32:20.680 And these and once again my heart hurts. Man knowing Tupac. 0:32:21.040 --> 0:32:23.760 I knew Tupac as a member of Digital so so 0:32:24.960 --> 0:32:27.920 you know Eli and money B and you know what 0:32:27.920 --> 0:32:28.120 I mean. 0:32:28.160 --> 0:32:29.640 I knew him as a member there. 0:32:30.080 --> 0:32:33.840 He had told an interesting story and and because Tupac 0:32:33.920 --> 0:32:37.280 would after his passing, you know, they would come back 0:32:37.320 --> 0:32:41.840 to me. I was performing a new a newer record 0:32:41.880 --> 0:32:44.640 at an elementary school and some kids had come up 0:32:44.680 --> 0:32:49.320 to me and they said, we saw Tupac and and 0:32:49.960 --> 0:32:52.520 we asked him about this new fast style of rhyming 0:32:53.160 --> 0:32:53.840 that we're hearing. 0:32:53.720 --> 0:32:56.600 All over the radio. And he said, it's cool. I 0:32:56.760 --> 0:32:57.400 like these artists. 0:32:57.440 --> 0:32:59.080 I like, you know those people, but you know, young 0:32:59.200 --> 0:33:01.640 MC created that' stuf and these and these are little 0:33:01.680 --> 0:33:04.280 kids coming and telling me this. So I was like, wow, man, 0:33:04.360 --> 0:33:07.400 it's like I didn't know because I wasn't terribly close 0:33:07.440 --> 0:33:09.160 to him. We didn't hang out, but I would see 0:33:09.240 --> 0:33:10.920 him at the shows like you know, like I like 0:33:11.040 --> 0:33:13.560 i'd see other people. He was always cool. It was 0:33:13.560 --> 0:33:14.200 always cool, but. 0:33:15.040 --> 0:33:17.000 You knew that there was something there when when when 0:33:17.120 --> 0:33:19.600 he could break free Shock. Shock was a was a 0:33:19.680 --> 0:33:22.280 great guy. Artistically, he was dominating. 0:33:22.840 --> 0:33:25.520 So there was a lot that other other artists in 0:33:25.600 --> 0:33:29.120 digital you know, may have wanted to do, but the 0:33:29.240 --> 0:33:30.240 vision of Shock kind of. 0:33:30.240 --> 0:33:32.000 Controlled digital and it was very successful. 0:33:32.440 --> 0:33:34.400 So when Tupac went and did his thing, I was like, Yo, 0:33:34.920 --> 0:33:36.959 that I've never been in a group, but I can 0:33:37.040 --> 0:33:39.440 only imagine having stuff in me that I can't get 0:33:39.440 --> 0:33:40.800 out in his group that I can get out. 0:33:40.720 --> 0:33:41.160 On my own. 0:33:41.720 --> 0:33:46.280 So my whole vision of Tupac was his ability to 0:33:46.560 --> 0:33:51.760 express himself, you know, musically, politically, all those things you know, 0:33:51.880 --> 0:33:53.800 and and then and to see that you know, come 0:33:53.840 --> 0:33:54.240 to fruition. 0:33:54.720 --> 0:33:54.920 Yeah. 0:33:54.960 --> 0:33:56.520 Yeah, from some of that, I knew that there was. 0:33:56.520 --> 0:33:56.880 In a group. 0:33:57.000 --> 0:33:59.760 Did you guys interact after he broke free from digital? 0:33:59.760 --> 0:34:01.360 And like, how were those interactions? 0:34:01.440 --> 0:34:02.920 I mean when I saw him with when I saw 0:34:03.000 --> 0:34:03.600 him it was cool. 0:34:03.680 --> 0:34:05.280 I think I seen him with with Sugar a couple 0:34:05.320 --> 0:34:06.720 of times, and it was it was always cool, it 0:34:06.840 --> 0:34:10.759 was always loved. I'm like Switzerland, dude, I just you see, yes, 0:34:11.520 --> 0:34:14.000 you don got no drama, well no drama. And also 0:34:14.440 --> 0:34:17.080 my aggression is on the mic, so like anybody can 0:34:17.120 --> 0:34:20.200 say whatever they want about me, but they'll never at 0:34:20.320 --> 0:34:22.960 least honestly question what I do on the microphone, even 0:34:23.000 --> 0:34:25.920 in my fifties. So like that's always been my approach. 0:34:26.000 --> 0:34:28.000 I could have done something else. I have a college degree. 0:34:29.120 --> 0:34:31.000 I easily could have done something else. But I not 0:34:31.120 --> 0:34:32.560 only I love for this, but I know I'm good 0:34:32.600 --> 0:34:35.800 at this. So one of the big things when I 0:34:35.880 --> 0:34:38.200 first came out to LA, there were other guys that 0:34:38.239 --> 0:34:39.719 came from New York and they get up on stage. 0:34:39.760 --> 0:34:41.839 Yeah new York, this's New York down and thinking these 0:34:41.880 --> 0:34:45.160 people are paying these people, you know, they want to 0:34:45.160 --> 0:34:47.440 big up their own plate. This is before LA hip 0:34:47.440 --> 0:34:49.040 hop got really big. This is in the you know 0:34:49.160 --> 0:34:51.480 Toddy te iced tea batter Ram. 0:34:51.680 --> 0:34:53.360 This when people go on stage and stays Booklyn in 0:34:53.400 --> 0:34:54.440 the house and everybody go crazy. 0:34:55.239 --> 0:34:59.879 Yeah yeah, so this is this is eighty seven. 0:35:00.400 --> 0:35:02.960 And my thing was these people accepted me, so I'm 0:35:03.000 --> 0:35:04.960 not going to go up here and say what my neighborhoods. 0:35:05.040 --> 0:35:06.920 I'm not in my neighborhood right now. I'm in LA. 0:35:07.560 --> 0:35:09.400 So part of the reason I think I got accepted 0:35:09.480 --> 0:35:11.080 for you know, being being part of all in the 0:35:11.120 --> 0:35:13.279 same gang, because they knew that I that if I 0:35:13.360 --> 0:35:15.160 was going to claim anywhere, I was going to claim LA, 0:35:15.640 --> 0:35:17.160 right you know what I mean, even if I wasn't 0:35:17.320 --> 0:35:19.680 in the streets and wasn't doing any thug shit or whatever. 0:35:20.200 --> 0:35:22.839 I would you know if you said, just like you thought, 0:35:22.920 --> 0:35:25.920 I'm West Coast artists people, I never get up and say, yo, 0:35:26.000 --> 0:35:26.799 I'm from the East Coast. 0:35:26.920 --> 0:35:27.160 It's not. 0:35:27.320 --> 0:35:29.680 I mean, I'll tell people what my background is, but 0:35:29.800 --> 0:35:31.840 I'm not. I'm not going to bang the table and 0:35:31.960 --> 0:35:35.240 disrespect the place that that's basically, you know, created my career. 0:35:36.000 --> 0:35:37.640 If like, once again, if I stayed in New York, 0:35:37.680 --> 0:35:39.440 you never would have heard of me, just wouldn't. Now 0:35:39.440 --> 0:35:41.320 you know how New York is all to do. I 0:35:41.360 --> 0:35:43.600 would do block parties and I try and break into 0:35:43.640 --> 0:35:45.960 a new new cadence and like, no, you don't rhyme 0:35:46.080 --> 0:35:46.959 like that, You're gonna run. 0:35:47.000 --> 0:35:47.320 Just like this. 0:35:48.239 --> 0:35:50.719 It's like, come on, man, and I'm coming up at 0:35:50.719 --> 0:35:52.799 a time where you literally have all of hip hop. 0:35:52.840 --> 0:35:55.200 If you take a subway map and just extend the 0:35:55.320 --> 0:35:57.520 right side out to Long Island, every artist you know 0:35:57.640 --> 0:35:58.560 is on that subway map. 0:35:59.480 --> 0:36:03.400 That's how was there anybody on on Self Destruction that 0:36:03.520 --> 0:36:04.200 wasn't from New York? 0:36:04.239 --> 0:36:06.680 I don't think so. No or from the tri Stated area. 0:36:07.239 --> 0:36:08.360 If they were, they didn't claim it. 0:36:08.440 --> 0:36:11.879 But on on on same gang you and Deaf Jeff 0:36:11.960 --> 0:36:13.560 that I could think of, Yeah, yeah, Deaf jefs in 0:36:13.560 --> 0:36:15.440 New York. Yeah, because he's not Yeah, he wasn't from 0:36:15.560 --> 0:36:18.879 La yeah, really, Yeah, I didn't keep that in youhood. 0:36:19.280 --> 0:36:21.200 But that but see that, to me, that's the brilliance 0:36:21.239 --> 0:36:23.960 of conception that he was like, I want everybody on that. 0:36:24.040 --> 0:36:27.800 I want all these you know, all these viewpoints so 0:36:27.960 --> 0:36:31.640 that anybody who's listening who isn't familiar can have something 0:36:31.719 --> 0:36:33.880 to hold on to or something that they can identify 0:36:33.920 --> 0:36:35.360 with in terms of a path of looking at it. 0:36:35.440 --> 0:36:37.960 So I'm I'm in front of the you know, most 0:36:38.000 --> 0:36:40.759 lily white crowds in the last you know, a couple 0:36:40.800 --> 0:36:43.279 of years doing same gang, and I gotta do same gang, 0:36:43.280 --> 0:36:44.800 and there'll be some places and people pull me to 0:36:44.920 --> 0:36:46.800 the side. You I'm glad you did that verse. We 0:36:46.840 --> 0:36:48.640 don't hear that that you know that you know that 0:36:48.719 --> 0:36:49.479 record too often. 0:36:49.960 --> 0:36:53.160 So it's like, yeah, and I was gonna say, did 0:36:53.160 --> 0:36:56.719 you ever feel because it seemed like the era that 0:36:56.760 --> 0:36:58.440 you're coming out in this is kind of like the 0:36:58.520 --> 0:37:01.560 beginning of what's some people might say is the Golden 0:37:01.640 --> 0:37:04.160 Era late eighties going into the nineties, right. 0:37:04.480 --> 0:37:07.319 I would say most people will say that, some people 0:37:07.360 --> 0:37:08.400 put it more into the nineties. 0:37:08.400 --> 0:37:10.480 I'm gonna stop both for you right there, looking offense, 0:37:10.960 --> 0:37:13.919 have no problem the Golden era. What considers what someone 0:37:14.000 --> 0:37:16.359 considers a golden era depends on where they're from. True, 0:37:16.440 --> 0:37:18.520 if you're in New York, your Golden Ever starts earlier. 0:37:18.520 --> 0:37:19.960 If you're in the West, it starts a little later. 0:37:19.960 --> 0:37:21.560 If you're in the South, it saus even later than that. 0:37:21.600 --> 0:37:24.319 I'm in the South. Damn, I'm in the South. 0:37:24.520 --> 0:37:27.160 But it can't be in the South saying that your 0:37:27.200 --> 0:37:28.640 Golden Ever started in eighty five. 0:37:29.200 --> 0:37:31.759 You can't. No, no, no, not mine from me, No no, no, 0:37:32.080 --> 0:37:32.640 not you personal. 0:37:32.640 --> 0:37:34.160 I'm just saying a person in the South is not 0:37:34.200 --> 0:37:35.839 going to say that that Golden Ever started in eighty 0:37:35.880 --> 0:37:37.640 five eighty six. Whereas if you're in New York and 0:37:37.719 --> 0:37:39.440 run DMC is out, that could be part of your 0:37:39.440 --> 0:37:39.839 Golden Night. 0:37:39.880 --> 0:37:41.759 That's part of your Golden ere. If you're from the South, 0:37:41.840 --> 0:37:43.200 its body starts. 0:37:42.920 --> 0:37:44.960 With Uncle Luke, right or I mean, I don't think 0:37:44.960 --> 0:37:46.919 it should be region. I think if you're talking about 0:37:46.920 --> 0:37:48.640 the consensus of hip hop, a lot of people put 0:37:48.680 --> 0:37:51.319 it like eighty eight to like ninety three, ninety four 0:37:51.400 --> 0:37:54.200 or something like that. Happen, yes, but it's. 0:37:54.080 --> 0:37:55.240 Influenced by regions. 0:37:55.560 --> 0:37:58.479 So you go earlier than eighty eight from East coast, 0:37:58.680 --> 0:38:01.360 you go later than ninety three from the south and 0:38:01.480 --> 0:38:02.160 from the west. 0:38:02.680 --> 0:38:03.960 That's my point is that. 0:38:04.080 --> 0:38:06.200 People throw around this term Golden Era, and that is 0:38:06.280 --> 0:38:09.480 a regional I honestly think that's a regional distinction. That's 0:38:09.520 --> 0:38:11.239 not something you can say all of him because all 0:38:11.280 --> 0:38:13.640 of hip hop. Hip hop has been regional. It's becoming 0:38:13.719 --> 0:38:17.560 less regional now, but during then, no Internet, it was, 0:38:17.680 --> 0:38:20.320 it was regional. Well, it depends because you could have 0:38:20.360 --> 0:38:21.040 been only. 0:38:20.960 --> 0:38:23.439 Looking at hip hop through the scope of what you got, 0:38:23.680 --> 0:38:24.880 which mainly was coming out of. 0:38:24.880 --> 0:38:25.600 New York at right. 0:38:26.600 --> 0:38:30.239 So so a regional artist outside of New York is 0:38:30.360 --> 0:38:34.560 not going to say, oh, you know, when Eric be 0:38:34.640 --> 0:38:36.920 as president came out that I considered that the Golden era. 0:38:37.040 --> 0:38:40.320 You know what Eric be as president influenced in that region, 0:38:40.640 --> 0:38:42.040 that's where the Golden Era starts. 0:38:42.920 --> 0:38:44.319 That's that's that's that's what I think. 0:38:44.360 --> 0:38:46.680 Great point, that's that's what that's is. I think it 0:38:46.719 --> 0:38:49.279 could be debatable. I think it could be debatable, but 0:38:49.840 --> 0:38:51.480 I can see where you can't understand where you can. 0:38:51.800 --> 0:38:55.080 But my point being is that and again this might 0:38:55.120 --> 0:38:57.719 be debatable as well because I'm young at the time, 0:38:57.800 --> 0:39:02.959 but the perspective was that hard hip hop heads looked 0:39:02.960 --> 0:39:05.719 at anybody that went commercially, you know, on the radio 0:39:05.920 --> 0:39:08.920 as like selling out the Hammer thing. Did you get 0:39:08.960 --> 0:39:10.879 any of that bass that Hammer got? 0:39:11.440 --> 0:39:12.320 I got some of it. 0:39:13.040 --> 0:39:15.480 And and and to even go before Tone came before me, 0:39:15.560 --> 0:39:18.120 And I remember people saying that Tone sounded like a 0:39:18.200 --> 0:39:19.000 broke rock hymn. 0:39:19.360 --> 0:39:19.960 I remember that. 0:39:19.960 --> 0:39:23.120 And this is before, this is before, and that's my man, dude, 0:39:23.160 --> 0:39:24.799 that's like but he's like blood to me. So I'm 0:39:24.800 --> 0:39:26.759 hearing that only but this is before he sells four 0:39:26.760 --> 0:39:28.239 million records and. 0:39:28.560 --> 0:39:30.000 It wasn't broke out that four million. 0:39:31.000 --> 0:39:34.359 Not only that, but I was saying people usually people 0:39:34.400 --> 0:39:35.520 that talk shit ain't done shit. 0:39:36.800 --> 0:39:38.320 I want to make some lawyers for that, saying. 0:39:40.800 --> 0:39:44.400 Yeah, So a lot of this stuff I would hear 0:39:44.400 --> 0:39:46.640 wouldn't be coming from artists like I could. 0:39:46.719 --> 0:39:48.360 They could be an artist whose music I don't like. 0:39:48.440 --> 0:39:50.319 I'm not going to say something to disrespect him, because 0:39:50.320 --> 0:39:54.839 I know the struggle. So seeing someone sell as many 0:39:54.920 --> 0:39:58.680 records as Tone did, and seeing you know what what 0:39:58.960 --> 0:40:01.359 other artists from other reads when when records were coming 0:40:01.440 --> 0:40:03.040 up after mine, I wasn't hating on the saying it 0:40:03.120 --> 0:40:05.799 wasn't me, I'm like, good for hip hop. The day 0:40:05.840 --> 0:40:07.600 after I want my grammy. I wake up in the morning, 0:40:07.640 --> 0:40:09.879 I gotta come down to do press. I'm literally wearing 0:40:09.920 --> 0:40:12.359 a still wearing a suit jacket. I come in front 0:40:12.360 --> 0:40:15.600 of this British report I think she was of Indian descent, 0:40:15.880 --> 0:40:18.000 and she looks at me. She says, Oh, I'm surprised 0:40:18.040 --> 0:40:20.120 you don't have your Grammy around your neck on a chain. 0:40:21.120 --> 0:40:29.040 I love your impression. By the way, Jan that's why 0:40:29.080 --> 0:40:30.160 they keep calling you your cousin. 0:40:32.000 --> 0:40:33.480 The island is so small it could be. 0:40:35.760 --> 0:40:39.120 But the thing is, I'm coming down and I'm trying 0:40:39.120 --> 0:40:42.239 to represent and and I get that. 0:40:43.040 --> 0:40:43.600 And this is me. 0:40:43.840 --> 0:40:45.960 I'm standing next to Bruce Hornsby, I'm standing next to 0:40:45.960 --> 0:40:46.319 all these. 0:40:46.239 --> 0:40:48.360 Other people, and they treat me as a peer, especially 0:40:48.360 --> 0:40:49.840 the people that know that I wrote Fotona. 0:40:50.000 --> 0:40:51.240 They're like, Yo, this is a real artist. 0:40:51.280 --> 0:40:53.600 This may be a different genre, may not be singing whatever, 0:40:53.680 --> 0:40:56.200 but he's selling real records and this is real stuff. 0:40:56.320 --> 0:40:59.720 So it's like more media and more you know, hoofla 0:41:00.200 --> 0:41:02.080 in terms of the stuff that you get backlash from. 0:41:02.680 --> 0:41:04.640 I didn't really pay it any mind, you know what 0:41:04.640 --> 0:41:07.120 I mean, because once again it's especially now with social media. 0:41:07.120 --> 0:41:07.760 It's ridiculous. 0:41:07.760 --> 0:41:10.919 You can just sit Cheetos mom's basement type type type 0:41:11.000 --> 0:41:12.560 and you're supposed to be on the same platform as 0:41:12.600 --> 0:41:13.640 someone's out there doing stuff. 0:41:13.760 --> 0:41:16.200 Right, Come on, man, now now, because you came from 0:41:16.600 --> 0:41:19.000 the era where people were still calling hip hop a 0:41:19.080 --> 0:41:22.200 fat people were still saying that, I remember the bigg 0:41:22.239 --> 0:41:23.879 the smallest lines. Did you ever hear that hip hop 0:41:23.920 --> 0:41:26.359 will make it this far? And it's like, I've noticed 0:41:26.400 --> 0:41:29.160 that it's a cliche type of a thing, but you 0:41:29.320 --> 0:41:33.239 now got to see a turn into business. Like it 0:41:33.360 --> 0:41:39.480 went from being about true school to now it's all 0:41:39.520 --> 0:41:41.680 about money. Everyone wants to be you know, be rich 0:41:41.800 --> 0:41:43.960 or whatever, but now it's a business. Did you ever 0:41:44.040 --> 0:41:46.200 think that hip hop would turn into like a business 0:41:46.280 --> 0:41:47.680 and less about the culture. 0:41:50.800 --> 0:41:52.719 I always knew that the business side of it would 0:41:52.760 --> 0:41:56.280 would evolve, but I always felt the culture would remain. 0:41:58.760 --> 0:42:02.520 So just because it's not the biggest selling record doesn't 0:42:02.520 --> 0:42:05.480 mean that it's not something that keeps the culture going. 0:42:06.160 --> 0:42:08.719 So that that's always been my approach. It's like I 0:42:08.840 --> 0:42:11.239 have certain records before Bust and Move came out. You know, 0:42:11.360 --> 0:42:12.960 dudes would tell me that, you know, let them know 0:42:13.120 --> 0:42:15.160 and my name is Young and know how and you know, 0:42:15.360 --> 0:42:19.320 there's certain records that did that were more culture focused 0:42:19.320 --> 0:42:21.839 than he had. It resonated more with the culture. Bust 0:42:21.880 --> 0:42:23.800 and move came out, did this thing, you know, and 0:42:23.920 --> 0:42:25.920 I'm changed my life. So I'm never going to say 0:42:25.960 --> 0:42:29.000 anything negative about it, but I try and make a 0:42:29.040 --> 0:42:33.680 point of showing that I took part in the development 0:42:33.719 --> 0:42:36.520 of the culture, especially of West Coast hip hop. You know, 0:42:36.840 --> 0:42:41.200 I've had really influential artists after me come up to 0:42:41.239 --> 0:42:42.799 me and say that, you know, the impact that I've 0:42:42.800 --> 0:42:46.719 had on them because I was a good rapper and 0:42:46.840 --> 0:42:49.880 I was saying that I was from LA. So there 0:42:49.960 --> 0:42:51.480 was a lot of guys that they were a good rapper. 0:42:51.520 --> 0:42:54.040 They wouldn't you know, they would claim any place by LA. 0:42:54.080 --> 0:42:55.160 But they're La making money. 0:42:55.719 --> 0:42:57.759 How it was for a lot of regions at that time. Yeah, 0:42:57.800 --> 0:42:59.359 but for me, that was disrespectful. 0:42:59.440 --> 0:43:02.320 If I'm here and you guys are paying me and 0:43:02.440 --> 0:43:05.279 I'm living, you know, I'm doing the cost of skate 0:43:05.360 --> 0:43:09.360 Land World on wheels, billboard. 0:43:08.960 --> 0:43:10.440 Live, Florentine Gardens. 0:43:10.440 --> 0:43:12.560 You know what I'm saying, whiskey Roxy, I mean, I'm 0:43:12.600 --> 0:43:13.880 doing those are the places. 0:43:13.640 --> 0:43:19.040 I'm playing one of those clubs I wish, but that's 0:43:19.080 --> 0:43:22.120 what I'm saying. Those those are the places that I 0:43:22.239 --> 0:43:25.160 kind of cut my teeth. So I can't, you know, 0:43:25.280 --> 0:43:28.520 go from there to saying, oh, but I started wrapping 0:43:28.600 --> 0:43:32.719 in a crew in New York. You know, there was 0:43:32.840 --> 0:43:35.040 there was an evolution that took place, and I saw 0:43:35.120 --> 0:43:37.400 my growth and I really learned the business being in 0:43:37.680 --> 0:43:39.800 LA you know. So you say it turned into a business. 0:43:39.880 --> 0:43:41.520 It did turn into a business because the money was 0:43:41.600 --> 0:43:45.080 there at that point. I have an economics degree, you know, 0:43:45.160 --> 0:43:47.960 I'm I'm not going to have somebody count my money 0:43:48.000 --> 0:43:48.200 for me. 0:43:49.080 --> 0:43:50.760 I mean, it seems like you came in at business 0:43:50.800 --> 0:43:53.560 already because you were already writing records for somebody else. 0:43:53.640 --> 0:43:56.319 It wasn't like you came in as your own MBC. Yeah. 0:43:56.320 --> 0:43:58.560 I mean, well I signed as my own MC. I 0:43:58.600 --> 0:43:59.560 didn't sign as a writer. 0:44:00.040 --> 0:44:02.080 Writing stuff came because they saw how I wrote for 0:44:02.160 --> 0:44:04.600 myself as an MC, and so O Marvel would be 0:44:04.680 --> 0:44:09.200 good to tell the story on on on Wild Thing. 0:44:10.880 --> 0:44:14.799 A lot of times rappers, now I guess it's expected. Oh, 0:44:14.880 --> 0:44:16.439 I you know, this producer has a beat. 0:44:16.480 --> 0:44:17.120 This beat is so hot. 0:44:17.160 --> 0:44:20.000 I'm an run and do this. I literally never asked 0:44:20.040 --> 0:44:22.080 for a beat change on any record. Okay, this is 0:44:22.080 --> 0:44:22.879 the beat, this is the title. 0:44:22.960 --> 0:44:23.239 Let's go. 0:44:23.960 --> 0:44:28.080 I mean, I'm talking wild thing, funky Cole Medina. There's 0:44:28.080 --> 0:44:30.040 a third record called Showtown that's supposed to be about 0:44:30.080 --> 0:44:32.200 Lakers that never came out, by the way, that was 0:44:32.200 --> 0:44:33.919 supposed to be the third single, but that never came. 0:44:33.840 --> 0:44:36.120 Out and didn't make the album. 0:44:36.520 --> 0:44:37.200 Yeah, it didn't make. 0:44:40.200 --> 0:44:42.960 But I remember because i'd written the first I think 0:44:43.000 --> 0:44:44.600 I may have I have. I still have my rhyme 0:44:44.640 --> 0:44:48.160 book written a pencil because it, you know, wouldn't fade. 0:44:49.920 --> 0:44:53.520 But just sitting down making those seeing what they did, 0:44:54.880 --> 0:44:56.480 it's like I can't look back on that and hate it, 0:44:57.000 --> 0:44:58.279 you know. I look, I look back on that and 0:44:58.360 --> 0:45:00.200 say that that's an amazing time. That that won't won't 0:45:00.280 --> 0:45:02.560 come that won't come back, you know what I mean. 0:45:02.760 --> 0:45:05.200 So my background and and you know, the kind of 0:45:05.239 --> 0:45:07.160 the batteries in my back to keep me going now 0:45:07.680 --> 0:45:11.600 is looking back then and knowing you know, I'm capable 0:45:11.640 --> 0:45:14.640 of that, or I'm capable of being you know, in 0:45:14.760 --> 0:45:18.719 that space, I try and find a level of reality, know, 0:45:18.800 --> 0:45:20.520 and it's like kind of like having a first girlfriend 0:45:20.920 --> 0:45:23.719 that it doesn't really matter, you know, down down the 0:45:23.800 --> 0:45:24.239 line how. 0:45:24.200 --> 0:45:26.440 She looked, it's that she was your first girlfriend. 0:45:26.480 --> 0:45:28.520 So like bust and moved, wild thing, some of these 0:45:28.600 --> 0:45:30.640 records were the first girlfriend for a lot of people 0:45:30.680 --> 0:45:31.160 in hip hop. 0:45:31.280 --> 0:45:32.920 They just were parents. 0:45:33.239 --> 0:45:37.239 Parents didn't know shit, parents wouldn't let them listen to 0:45:37.320 --> 0:45:39.160 the stuff for curses and oh but we you know, 0:45:39.200 --> 0:45:41.680 we were able to listen to your record, right, So 0:45:42.000 --> 0:45:42.880 you know, it's like, do. 0:45:42.920 --> 0:45:44.200 You feel you've got enough credit for it? 0:45:44.239 --> 0:45:46.320 Because you obviously broke down a lot of barriers for 0:45:46.400 --> 0:45:49.440 hip hop at the time, Like, I'm what records? Do 0:45:49.480 --> 0:45:51.000 you remember any of the records? There had to be 0:45:51.120 --> 0:45:53.440 MTV records for your video? Oh yeah, yeah, no in 0:45:53.520 --> 0:45:54.720 terms of hip hop. 0:45:54.680 --> 0:45:58.800 The reason, well, all right, I think I had started 0:45:58.880 --> 0:45:59.799 before MTV raps. 0:46:00.400 --> 0:46:02.160 Don't get me do you know. 0:46:02.280 --> 0:46:05.560 Don't get me wrong with that, but I could look back. 0:46:05.600 --> 0:46:07.200 But I want to say that I know I was 0:46:07.239 --> 0:46:09.279 putting out some records before MTV rap start. 0:46:09.320 --> 0:46:10.120 I know, let them know. 0:46:10.120 --> 0:46:11.480 It was my first single and I was hyper and 0:46:11.520 --> 0:46:13.160 red alert played it so I know he was there. 0:46:13.280 --> 0:46:13.520 Wow. 0:46:13.800 --> 0:46:16.440 But in terms of getting credit, it was it was 0:46:16.520 --> 0:46:17.319 a dynamic thing. 0:46:17.400 --> 0:46:18.359 It was growing and there. 0:46:18.360 --> 0:46:21.399 I just wanted to be acknowledged that I was there, 0:46:21.880 --> 0:46:24.200 you know what I mean, Like whatever credit I'm gonna get, 0:46:24.280 --> 0:46:24.719 you know, like. 0:46:24.800 --> 0:46:26.960 History is told by the winners, you know what I mean. 0:46:27.040 --> 0:46:30.600 So so people, you know, I see, you saw your 0:46:30.640 --> 0:46:33.640 interview with DC and and with other folks, you know, 0:46:33.719 --> 0:46:35.919 the dog Pound and a lot of the stuff they're 0:46:35.920 --> 0:46:37.600 talking about. I know a lot of the people that 0:46:37.719 --> 0:46:40.239 talk about I know. So I'm happy knowing that I 0:46:40.360 --> 0:46:44.120 was there. And if my name ever comes up, you know, 0:46:44.280 --> 0:46:46.879 then then then I'm hoping something positive will be said. 0:46:46.880 --> 0:46:48.040 But I was there, and I felt that I gave 0:46:48.040 --> 0:46:49.320 a good crowd contribution to it. 0:46:50.719 --> 0:46:54.000 Well, our show is well giving people flowers while they're 0:46:54.040 --> 0:46:56.440 alive where they could smell them, or the trees where 0:46:56.480 --> 0:46:58.560 they can hell them, They thoughts while they could think them, 0:46:58.600 --> 0:46:59.920 and they drinks where they can drink them. 0:47:05.360 --> 0:47:07.239 We always, we always quote Snoop Dogg. 0:47:07.320 --> 0:47:09.560 Snoop Dogg says it's better than the Grammy because it 0:47:09.560 --> 0:47:10.359 comes for his people. 0:47:10.760 --> 0:47:11.920 And this is what we want to do. 0:47:12.080 --> 0:47:16.040 So many times in our culture, you know, people they 0:47:16.080 --> 0:47:18.400 don't appreciate each other, and we want to break that 0:47:18.520 --> 0:47:20.520 mold and we want to say how great you are 0:47:20.560 --> 0:47:22.120 because it is real. 0:47:22.719 --> 0:47:25.040 It's really an honor to honor you. 0:47:25.560 --> 0:47:26.040 Thank you man. 0:47:26.080 --> 0:47:31.400 Well, I was all right, so we wanted to do 0:47:31.520 --> 0:47:33.719 this so bad. I will say that. 0:47:33.760 --> 0:47:35.959 I've won a Grammy. But on a lot of levels 0:47:35.960 --> 0:47:42.040 I appreciate this. Yeah, yea, I'm bad, all right, Yeah, 0:47:42.080 --> 0:47:44.000 I know, on a lot of levels I appreciate this 0:47:44.160 --> 0:47:48.360 more because this is for a lifelong you know, this 0:47:48.480 --> 0:47:50.560 is thirty seven years of work, you know what I mean. 0:47:50.640 --> 0:47:53.359 So to be recognized, I'm telling my friends you don't 0:47:53.400 --> 0:47:53.839 going on drink. 0:47:53.920 --> 0:47:58.120 Chance for going yo yo yo, shut me out, So 0:47:58.480 --> 0:48:05.640 big up your friends, man, I think it's time a 0:48:05.680 --> 0:48:06.400 quick time Slyne. 0:48:06.480 --> 0:48:07.319 Let's go all right. 0:48:07.800 --> 0:48:10.800 Now you're not drinking, so but we're gonna give you 0:48:10.960 --> 0:48:14.520 the honor designated drink of having a designated drinker so 0:48:14.640 --> 0:48:17.400 you can actually look at probably anybody in the audience. 0:48:17.560 --> 0:48:19.839 He's always the designated drinkery. 0:48:25.480 --> 0:48:25.880 Wants. 0:48:28.200 --> 0:48:31.160 Does anybody want it? Yeah? Okay, okay, he just went 0:48:31.200 --> 0:48:34.560 over there. We got tough over there. Okay, alright, let's 0:48:34.560 --> 0:48:34.840 get it. 0:48:34.880 --> 0:48:37.520 Cool cool, cool, he gonna drink for you, Thank you, sir. 0:48:37.640 --> 0:48:40.520 All right, So you got you know, you know, you know, 0:48:40.600 --> 0:48:44.640 I explaining these rules. Your friend is gonna explain it. Yeah, 0:48:45.080 --> 0:48:47.560 get him a chair, Yeah, I got. 0:48:50.200 --> 0:48:52.759 You got cranberry juice. Cranberry juice over over ice, and 0:48:52.760 --> 0:48:55.000 I'll mixed this with thank you or whatever. 0:48:55.000 --> 0:48:58.320 He's drinking though for his shots. Yeah, So you explaining 0:48:58.400 --> 0:48:59.839 him the rules, I'll explained to him. 0:48:59.880 --> 0:48:59.960 Ye. 0:49:00.160 --> 0:49:02.560 Okay, We're going to give you two choices. Yes, you 0:49:02.680 --> 0:49:05.080 pick one, nobody drinks. If you say both or neither, 0:49:05.160 --> 0:49:05.640 we're drinking. 0:49:05.800 --> 0:49:08.600 Okay. So, but and any stories you got with any 0:49:08.680 --> 0:49:09.640 names mentioned. 0:49:09.480 --> 0:49:12.480 I will much They're all going to have stories because 0:49:12.920 --> 0:49:14.880 if I know them, they're coming from a place of 0:49:14.960 --> 0:49:17.960 a relationship as opposed to what I regard somebody as 0:49:18.040 --> 0:49:20.000 a fan, you know what I'm saying. So so there 0:49:20.000 --> 0:49:21.840 may be some that to people that don't know and 0:49:21.920 --> 0:49:24.359 would be obvious and to me, like I would pick 0:49:24.360 --> 0:49:27.760 to Loko over everybody, I'll put pres over mostly everybody. 0:49:29.360 --> 0:49:30.359 So go ahead. I'm sorry. 0:49:30.400 --> 0:49:32.160 But by the way, by the way, I want to 0:49:32.200 --> 0:49:34.680 take a time out to actually really really really big 0:49:34.719 --> 0:49:35.080 you up. 0:49:35.040 --> 0:49:36.399 Because I'm actually. 0:49:38.239 --> 0:49:41.320 Looking at your drink selection and I'm really realizing you 0:49:41.480 --> 0:49:42.920 drink four different things. 0:49:47.200 --> 0:49:53.040 I don't know what this is. That's this is the 0:49:53.360 --> 0:49:56.840 Haitian version of and then you got Mama Wana. You 0:49:56.920 --> 0:49:59.319 got by the way, pit Bull. He's so loyal to you, man, 0:50:00.200 --> 0:50:02.200 because I can tell he doesn't enjoy this at all. 0:50:05.000 --> 0:50:11.040 I don't know you want, oh, Mama, don't do it. 0:50:11.960 --> 0:50:16.239 They make that in the to and they make that. 0:50:18.200 --> 0:50:20.520 And a back job, and kidd I'm telling you be 0:50:20.600 --> 0:50:24.600 careful that it's fantastic. I'm just I'll be playing around. 0:50:25.880 --> 0:50:27.840 You. So I just want to before we get into this. 0:50:28.400 --> 0:50:30.520 This is a different Mama wanna no, no, this is 0:50:30.600 --> 0:50:33.319 this is Haitian. I don't know what will we consider this, Guys, 0:50:33.560 --> 0:50:35.960 he's not really We've established that he's not really Haitian. 0:50:36.200 --> 0:50:38.560 We can't go to the Sunday d Haitian. I'm looking 0:50:38.560 --> 0:50:40.960 at mother friend. We can't go to Sunny d fund. 0:50:42.880 --> 0:50:46.120 For the Haitian delegation. We cannot go to sunn Listen, 0:50:47.520 --> 0:50:49.239 I'm gonna tell you some funny ship. Real great. 0:50:49.320 --> 0:50:50.799 This is this is like. 0:50:52.800 --> 0:50:55.279 It's like Haiti Yeah, summer morn. So he got you 0:50:55.360 --> 0:50:56.560 got Haitian moonshine. 0:50:57.200 --> 0:50:59.239 You got wan I say it wrong. Then you got 0:50:59.480 --> 0:51:02.600 pit Bull vodka. Yep, which which you had for like 0:51:02.680 --> 0:51:04.840 two years. It ain't going nowhere on. 0:51:05.120 --> 0:51:07.839 The thirtieth last year, and and then you got there 0:51:08.160 --> 0:51:09.160 and I got beer as well. 0:51:11.640 --> 0:51:17.200 That's why that's why he's in CrossFit every day, because 0:51:17.239 --> 0:51:20.279 that gangster right there. I've been doing this with him 0:51:20.440 --> 0:51:22.719 eight years and I'm still realizing every more day like 0:51:23.000 --> 0:51:23.480 he might be. 0:51:26.480 --> 0:51:29.360 Okay, I'm gonna do my best to be decisive, but 0:51:29.440 --> 0:51:32.000 even some of them that I say both, I'm gonna 0:51:32.040 --> 0:51:34.600 probably give stories behind it because and by the way. 0:51:35.040 --> 0:51:36.719 I'm so sorry to change the subject a little bit. 0:51:37.120 --> 0:51:39.840 I met Kirk Franklin. Oh boy, I felt like he 0:51:39.960 --> 0:51:40.279 was bad. 0:51:41.960 --> 0:51:44.080 Did you remind him about militiaman crazy already? 0:51:44.160 --> 0:51:45.440 What? No? 0:51:45.600 --> 0:51:45.960 I did not. 0:51:46.680 --> 0:51:48.239 I did not, but he said he's he won't come 0:51:48.239 --> 0:51:50.239 on the show. I would tell our found. I told 0:51:50.280 --> 0:51:51.319 him my mom truck to get you high. 0:51:51.400 --> 0:51:55.440 Kirk look up radio and Kirk Franklin, and we did. 0:51:55.680 --> 0:51:58.480 We did with frank called him, yeah, Frank call him. Yes. 0:52:00.400 --> 0:52:01.560 If you want to drink this, you got to sit here, 0:52:01.600 --> 0:52:03.800 bro be a part of this. Yeah, you got to 0:52:03.960 --> 0:52:06.960 designated drinkers. It's okay, you, Charlie, you can have some 0:52:07.040 --> 0:52:09.880 of this because he wants to drink this. By the way, Charlie, 0:52:09.960 --> 0:52:13.200 Charlie got glass what I call him glass like that? 0:52:19.360 --> 0:52:22.880 You know, Charlie strong for no reason, get yourself a 0:52:22.920 --> 0:52:28.240 shot glass, not mine? All right? All right, by the way, already, 0:52:28.320 --> 0:52:29.080 how you're going to answer this? 0:52:29.360 --> 0:52:34.640 Yes, So I like to let people know when we 0:52:34.760 --> 0:52:37.800 do this that these questions come from a Dominican and 0:52:37.880 --> 0:52:38.880 Columbia and they're. 0:52:38.719 --> 0:52:42.640 Right over there, right over there. Yeah, we don't make 0:52:42.680 --> 0:52:43.280 these questions. 0:52:43.520 --> 0:52:48.120 They come from them, Okay, to own local or mc 0:52:48.280 --> 0:52:50.040 hammers load, dude. 0:52:50.760 --> 0:52:59.600 I mean, look, I just got married, like we believe it. 0:52:59.719 --> 0:53:00.600 Not ahead. 0:53:07.160 --> 0:53:09.560 What what I'll give give him, I'll give him and 0:53:09.640 --> 0:53:10.600 his crops to what he did. 0:53:10.760 --> 0:53:11.120 That's right. 0:53:11.920 --> 0:53:15.120 We need have selling selling that many records and the 0:53:15.239 --> 0:53:17.880 and the impact he had tous like blood to me, 0:53:18.480 --> 0:53:22.080 like walking literally walking down. 0:53:22.680 --> 0:53:25.040 The aisle to marry my wife. Montell Jordan, did my 0:53:25.120 --> 0:53:26.439 ceremony nice? 0:53:26.800 --> 0:53:28.680 We respect that Motel walks. 0:53:28.480 --> 0:53:31.160 In front of me. I'm walking behind Montel. 0:53:31.960 --> 0:53:35.719 The time that I was close to getting choked up 0:53:35.800 --> 0:53:38.520 before I was holding my wife during our vows is 0:53:38.560 --> 0:53:39.480 when I saw Tone. 0:53:39.320 --> 0:53:41.080 Lok in a suit and Rob Base in a suit 0:53:41.960 --> 0:53:42.440 you know what I mean. 0:53:42.520 --> 0:53:43.440 Two three. 0:53:46.400 --> 0:53:50.960 So March, yeah, March March twenty fourth. 0:53:53.960 --> 0:54:00.760 Rob Base was there, Yeah together, okay, Freedom Freedom. Williams 0:54:00.840 --> 0:54:01.400 is there okay. 0:54:01.440 --> 0:54:04.279 Well also seeing you know, seeing some music factory Montane Left. 0:54:04.600 --> 0:54:08.080 Yeah, freedom, Freedom from Left. We have so many discuss 0:54:08.120 --> 0:54:09.200 Freedom has so many stories. 0:54:09.280 --> 0:54:09.440 Due. 0:54:09.440 --> 0:54:10.880 I don't know where he's from because the story is. 0:54:10.880 --> 0:54:12.799 In different places. Ye people to Earth. 0:54:13.120 --> 0:54:16.879 Yeah, and then the rounded out All of One, all 0:54:16.920 --> 0:54:18.560 the members of Off of One came out for my wedding. 0:54:18.880 --> 0:54:21.520 Flew had a show the night before, all brought suits. 0:54:21.640 --> 0:54:22.200 It was Due. 0:54:22.280 --> 0:54:24.160 It was just so hard woman, because these are my friends. 0:54:24.160 --> 0:54:27.160 These are people I see, you know, thirty years, twenty 0:54:27.239 --> 0:54:29.719 five years, twenty years. Even on this nineties tour, I'm 0:54:29.800 --> 0:54:33.120 doing two hundred, three hundred shows with people. They become like, 0:54:33.320 --> 0:54:35.040 you know, like family, that's what you see. I see 0:54:35.080 --> 0:54:37.320 them more than the friends. I'm within Arizona. 0:54:37.400 --> 0:54:39.960 So I tell people that all the time. It's three 0:54:40.000 --> 0:54:41.839 ways you go. You can kind of really really really 0:54:41.920 --> 0:54:44.920 know a person, get locked up with them that's fucked up, 0:54:48.160 --> 0:54:48.560 and go on. 0:54:48.600 --> 0:54:51.480 Tour, which is kind of similar. 0:54:51.600 --> 0:54:56.080 It's similar because you're in jail free, you're in jail traveling. 0:54:56.560 --> 0:54:58.920 Like I'm being honest with you. 0:55:02.120 --> 0:55:05.759 I've always used this description that heaven could be hell 0:55:05.840 --> 0:55:09.080 if you don't want to be there. Y'all understand what 0:55:09.120 --> 0:55:11.600 I just said. If you don't want to be there, 0:55:11.640 --> 0:55:13.560 that's it could be. Like I used to go to 0:55:13.719 --> 0:55:15.160 Paris and hate that ship. 0:55:16.400 --> 0:55:22.040 What the fuck is one croissant? Want chocolates in Switzerland? 0:55:22.840 --> 0:55:24.640 And then I started to realize. 0:55:24.320 --> 0:55:28.320 Because my my, my pilot didn't lead Queens, your pilot 0:55:28.480 --> 0:55:30.120 or your pilot you know what I mean. 0:55:31.719 --> 0:55:32.880 Pilot didn't Queens. 0:55:32.920 --> 0:55:37.960 He has some of the most like creative pronunciations. 0:55:41.120 --> 0:55:41.600 Could have worked. 0:55:42.400 --> 0:55:42.719 It works. 0:55:42.760 --> 0:55:44.480 But the thing is is that you know so well 0:55:44.520 --> 0:55:51.279 that you knew hold on, we're gonna move on, hold 0:55:51.280 --> 0:55:55.440 on on plot Queens. This one, I don't know. He 0:55:55.560 --> 0:55:56.400 go to flight school. 0:55:58.040 --> 0:55:59.799 This one, I don't know what you're gonna say. Time 0:56:00.920 --> 0:56:04.040 and this is a good one. I respect, y'all. Tupac 0:56:04.239 --> 0:56:04.680 or shot g. 0:56:06.040 --> 0:56:08.800 Oh God, I have to say, shock g dude, I 0:56:08.880 --> 0:56:11.400 have to say and once again, I'm going for I 0:56:11.480 --> 0:56:13.240 knew both of them, but I'm going. 0:56:13.160 --> 0:56:14.240 For my relationships. 0:56:14.960 --> 0:56:19.160 Like shock, God rest him. If he was alive, it 0:56:19.200 --> 0:56:20.040 had been at my wedding. 0:56:20.200 --> 0:56:23.480 Shock is somebody I learned so much, even like even 0:56:23.600 --> 0:56:27.000 the all in the same gang, the whole experience. Shak 0:56:27.080 --> 0:56:29.920 had asked me about being in the record, like should 0:56:30.120 --> 0:56:30.960 should should. 0:56:30.760 --> 0:56:31.680 Digital be part of this? 0:56:32.040 --> 0:56:34.800 This is when everybody was deciding whatever and and and 0:56:35.160 --> 0:56:36.280 before it was all finalized. 0:56:36.280 --> 0:56:37.400 I'm like, yeah, man, I'm doing it. 0:56:37.480 --> 0:56:41.440 You were on it before they were even considered or I. 0:56:41.520 --> 0:56:44.160 Had said that I'd approved it. Where what the legal 0:56:44.360 --> 0:56:46.759 documents data? How long it took? Because the delicious are 0:56:46.760 --> 0:56:48.480 trying to get money out of him, which wasn't smart. 0:56:50.560 --> 0:56:52.279 All I knew was I had approved it at the time, 0:56:52.320 --> 0:56:56.279 and they had known that, right. So Shack had asked 0:56:56.320 --> 0:56:59.080 me my opinion, and I said, you know, you should 0:56:59.120 --> 0:57:03.240 do it. Interesting thing before he passed, we had a discussion. 0:57:03.280 --> 0:57:06.880 I had done a Pepsi commercial and a Taco bell commercial, and. 0:57:08.520 --> 0:57:10.000 Oh god, I think for both of them. 0:57:10.080 --> 0:57:12.200 I want to say, maybe I got two hundred grand 0:57:12.320 --> 0:57:15.800 something like that for both commercials together. They come to Shock, 0:57:15.960 --> 0:57:18.520 they offer him more than that, but he had heard 0:57:18.560 --> 0:57:19.880 in rumors that I got a million. 0:57:19.680 --> 0:57:22.600 Dollars for those two commercials. So I'm not sure. 0:57:24.760 --> 0:57:27.120 So I'm not even sure it's the same companies, but 0:57:27.160 --> 0:57:29.320 it's the same type of deal, like a fast food, 0:57:29.400 --> 0:57:30.640 soft drink kind of thing. 0:57:31.640 --> 0:57:32.880 And he had turned down. 0:57:34.920 --> 0:57:37.600 Like three hundred something like that, saying, well, if young 0:57:37.680 --> 0:57:39.720 got a million, I should get close to that, And 0:57:39.800 --> 0:57:41.720 he never took the deal. When I told him how 0:57:41.800 --> 0:57:43.720 much I had gotten, He's like, man, I wish I 0:57:43.760 --> 0:57:46.000 had spoken to you instead of taking the rumors. So 0:57:46.160 --> 0:57:50.320 that's why, like, even seeing that from him, it opened 0:57:50.360 --> 0:57:52.520 my eyes in terms of what the streets say or 0:57:52.600 --> 0:57:56.280 what someone says, you know, because once again, if I'm 0:57:56.560 --> 0:58:00.840 hearing someone talk about money, figure said they've never come 0:58:00.880 --> 0:58:03.120 in contact to with themselves. I have to take that 0:58:03.200 --> 0:58:05.160 with a grain of salt. Unless they're the lawyer or 0:58:05.200 --> 0:58:07.480 the business affairs or something that's gonna have access to 0:58:07.560 --> 0:58:10.520 the deal. I can't if someone says a million of 0:58:10.560 --> 0:58:12.280 me and they never seen a mill, then come on, man, 0:58:12.680 --> 0:58:15.120 really nah. So so Shock taught me. 0:58:15.200 --> 0:58:18.680 That fun fact. For Shock he's originally from Tampa. 0:58:18.920 --> 0:58:22.560 Yeah, here, this is a fun fact. I know you're 0:58:22.560 --> 0:58:25.560 gonna laugh at me. You know, I really didn't know 0:58:25.760 --> 0:58:27.400 that that was the same. 0:58:31.040 --> 0:58:31.920 He did a great. 0:58:33.920 --> 0:58:36.440 When he did the Arsenio appearance, and he and they 0:58:36.520 --> 0:58:38.240 came out like I think they came out together. 0:58:38.520 --> 0:58:40.800 I think, yes, brother, yes, let me tell you how 0:58:40.840 --> 0:58:43.320 everybody but the nose. The nose makes you know the. 0:58:45.040 --> 0:58:48.920 Let me tell you how bad I was fooled, like 0:58:49.120 --> 0:58:52.320 people told me. And I met him and I still 0:58:52.400 --> 0:58:55.320 asked him. I was like, so, w is homie gonna 0:58:55.320 --> 0:58:55.640 come out? 0:58:57.240 --> 0:58:58.280 He would be like, henna be. 0:59:01.400 --> 0:59:01.520 You know. 0:59:01.960 --> 0:59:03.440 He literally looked at me and was like, you'll know, 0:59:03.720 --> 0:59:06.200 you know that's a joke, right, like it's it's like 0:59:06.800 --> 0:59:07.520 the same person. 0:59:07.600 --> 0:59:12.840 And I was just like, you don't believe. I just 0:59:13.000 --> 0:59:14.960 really is. I really didn't. I really did. So that's 0:59:15.000 --> 0:59:17.160 that's the fun fact for me. Let's move on. D 0:59:17.280 --> 0:59:18.120 O C or m C. 0:59:18.240 --> 0:59:22.680 Wren oh man, I have to say d O C. 0:59:23.800 --> 0:59:27.080 And I say d O C because. 0:59:28.440 --> 0:59:31.280 Before his accident I would see him and I'm I'm 0:59:31.400 --> 0:59:35.440 very lyrically focused. So the dopest line he hasn't funky 0:59:35.560 --> 0:59:39.160 enough to me. He says something that rhyns with G 0:59:39.400 --> 0:59:41.120 or whatever, and he says when I'm p E R 0:59:41.360 --> 0:59:44.200 F O R M I N G N Right. So 0:59:44.600 --> 0:59:46.080 the first time I saw him, at one of the 0:59:46.160 --> 0:59:47.840 times I saw him after the record came out. I 0:59:47.920 --> 0:59:49.440 said p E R F O R M I N 0:59:49.520 --> 0:59:51.600 G N, and d O C looks at me and says, 0:59:51.600 --> 0:59:53.680 you're the only person that got that, because I don't 0:59:53.680 --> 0:59:53.880 get it. 0:59:54.400 --> 1:00:01.200 He spelled his pilot never left. His problem was in Queen. 1:00:04.960 --> 1:00:08.960 He's spelled performing and that's that's That's a ten letter 1:00:09.080 --> 1:00:12.960 word that he fits into a line. And ironically, this 1:00:13.080 --> 1:00:15.600 is once again how much of a lyric nerd I am, oh, 1:00:15.720 --> 1:00:18.280 one syllable so you can get away with it, but 1:00:18.800 --> 1:00:22.120 ten letter word he spells out in a rhyme and 1:00:22.200 --> 1:00:25.360 it just sounds like because he doesn't, so they just 1:00:25.400 --> 1:00:27.280 think that it's more babbling. I'm like, no, he's spelled 1:00:27.280 --> 1:00:29.440 performing right there, and I gave him prompts for it. 1:00:29.520 --> 1:00:30.840 He's like, you're the only person that got that. 1:00:31.240 --> 1:00:33.040 Then I saw him, as you know, with the accident 1:00:33.120 --> 1:00:36.200 the DRUP and I opened I opened for him and 1:00:36.320 --> 1:00:40.200 Snoop a couple of years ago and well not open. 1:00:40.400 --> 1:00:42.720 I opened for Snoop and he was there and it 1:00:42.840 --> 1:00:45.400 was my profile before my wedding picture. Actually my profile 1:00:45.440 --> 1:00:47.960 picture on my on my Facebook was was me DC 1:00:48.080 --> 1:00:48.520 and Snoop. 1:00:49.320 --> 1:00:52.040 So that's that's why it's DC okay, that's hard. That 1:00:52.120 --> 1:00:55.200 was a hard explanation. He tried to get you drunk. 1:00:55.240 --> 1:00:55.960 He's looking out for you. 1:00:57.040 --> 1:01:01.040 I like he's looking at I'm trying man e PMD 1:01:01.160 --> 1:01:03.720 or Digital Underground man. 1:01:03.760 --> 1:01:05.080 Because I know Eric and Parish. 1:01:05.840 --> 1:01:09.640 I have to say, see y'all want to drink. You 1:01:09.720 --> 1:01:11.640 could say both, you know, because you love. 1:01:11.600 --> 1:01:14.680 Them both, dude, but it can't be both. I knew, 1:01:14.720 --> 1:01:18.520 I knew Eric, I knew Eric, you know met Parish. 1:01:19.560 --> 1:01:21.560 But it's it's got to be Digital Underground. Like my 1:01:21.960 --> 1:01:25.200 my booking agent, Bobby Beissan, love him to death. I've 1:01:25.240 --> 1:01:28.480 had the same booking agent since nineteen ninety eight. He 1:01:29.520 --> 1:01:31.480 one of the last road things he did was being 1:01:31.560 --> 1:01:33.720 on the road road managing Digital Underground. 1:01:33.760 --> 1:01:36.440 So him and him in Shakra like this. 1:01:37.200 --> 1:01:40.040 And then I would see shack a lot touring in 1:01:40.080 --> 1:01:42.000 the whole bit we would have Shock was capable of 1:01:42.080 --> 1:01:45.200 amazing deep conversation. So it's like, this is a man 1:01:45.520 --> 1:01:48.400 who I learned so much from just talking to. So 1:01:49.240 --> 1:01:51.280 it's like, you know, maybe you give me two people 1:01:51.320 --> 1:01:52.400 that I don't have a story with it. 1:01:53.480 --> 1:01:57.120 You're doing five, you're doing five that this is a 1:01:57.160 --> 1:02:02.600 good one. I'm saving money. Uber N w a oh 1:02:02.640 --> 1:02:05.040 public enemy, and we want the stories. Let's go. 1:02:06.200 --> 1:02:08.800 Okay, I will say boats you could drink, but I'm 1:02:08.840 --> 1:02:09.920 gonna give the stories on boat. 1:02:13.160 --> 1:02:13.400 Okay. 1:02:15.440 --> 1:02:17.080 He wants, yeah, he wants. He wants you to fill 1:02:18.120 --> 1:02:23.360 you want give us So first Republic enemy could And 1:02:23.440 --> 1:02:27.320 I told him this. I did a podcast God, probably 1:02:27.680 --> 1:02:31.240 a year ago or so and me talking about No, No, 1:02:31.760 --> 1:02:33.760 I'm talking about Chuck and they see you bring up 1:02:33.800 --> 1:02:37.640 Flavor Me and Flavor real cool, like, oh god, you 1:02:37.720 --> 1:02:41.040 saw a flavor go with Flavor. We did a private 1:02:41.080 --> 1:02:43.680 event similar to the one you saw with left right 1:02:47.400 --> 1:02:53.040 me Tone Lok, Rob Bass, Sugarhill Gang, Flavor, Flav hosting. 1:02:53.320 --> 1:02:55.600 Wow, So I'm sitting Master g. 1:02:55.760 --> 1:02:56.240 Is on. 1:02:57.880 --> 1:03:00.840 Everything. So I've done hosting with Flayed before. 1:03:01.600 --> 1:03:03.160 So we're and this, by the way, this is on 1:03:03.280 --> 1:03:06.720 a yacht leaving from them whether inter Con Leonard con 1:03:06.840 --> 1:03:09.280 New of the Miami and we and we went. 1:03:09.440 --> 1:03:11.840 We went in a circle for a corporate event. 1:03:12.640 --> 1:03:15.240 So the yacht was big enough where we could be 1:03:15.760 --> 1:03:17.800 on the lower levels this corporate rent or whatever, but 1:03:17.880 --> 1:03:20.000 we could be on the lower levels listening to what 1:03:20.160 --> 1:03:21.000 was happening on stage. 1:03:21.280 --> 1:03:22.040 So I do mine. 1:03:23.280 --> 1:03:26.640 Tone goes, Rob goes, sugar Hill goes. So I'm sitting 1:03:26.680 --> 1:03:31.640 with Master G. I don't know if there was a headliner, 1:03:31.680 --> 1:03:34.960 but for some reason, Flay was still on on stage 1:03:34.960 --> 1:03:37.360 where Master G was down downstairs, changed clothes. We started 1:03:37.360 --> 1:03:39.720 talking and we're listening to what happens on stage. Flay 1:03:39.800 --> 1:03:42.880 goes into a medley. And I've known this man at 1:03:42.920 --> 1:03:45.960 this point thirty years, never seen him do a medley 1:03:46.000 --> 1:03:48.280 by himself. But I'm only listening through the ship speakers 1:03:49.160 --> 1:03:52.280 every record he had a verse in Bam bam bam 1:03:52.400 --> 1:03:56.240 bam band both of us, like Messa g is an 1:03:56.320 --> 1:03:59.520 is a is you know, an idol of mine is 1:03:59.680 --> 1:04:00.720 something some of our mentor. 1:04:00.760 --> 1:04:01.880 So we're having deep conversation. 1:04:02.080 --> 1:04:06.240 We both stop, let's go, and Flavor's just bam bam 1:04:06.320 --> 1:04:09.000 bam bam going through going through stuff like that. So 1:04:10.400 --> 1:04:13.400 I just have a personal love for Flay. 1:04:13.480 --> 1:04:16.360 Flavor's always been good with me, you know, friends of friends, 1:04:16.400 --> 1:04:18.800 short circle, and he's a person, you know, you have 1:04:18.920 --> 1:04:20.760 highs and lows in his business. When the records ain't 1:04:20.800 --> 1:04:24.840 hitting and all that, Flavor's always treated me well. And 1:04:25.360 --> 1:04:27.439 when it comes to Chuck once again, I considered Chuck 1:04:27.480 --> 1:04:30.880 a mentor like if things were were to if things 1:04:30.880 --> 1:04:33.240 would have blow up to a certain place, or I 1:04:33.440 --> 1:04:35.960 was exposed to things that I didn't know about this business, 1:04:36.360 --> 1:04:38.320 I would go to Chuck to get advice. That's the 1:04:38.360 --> 1:04:40.240 person if you said, who would be the first person 1:04:40.280 --> 1:04:44.200 you go to is Chuck d okay nwa. 1:04:45.520 --> 1:04:47.520 Seeing Cbe do what he did in terms of being 1:04:47.560 --> 1:04:47.840 a writer. 1:04:47.960 --> 1:04:49.680 I think me and him, I had not seen Cube 1:04:49.720 --> 1:04:52.480 in twenty some ideas open for him last year. Took 1:04:52.520 --> 1:04:56.120 my now wife with me, and the first thing Cube 1:04:56.160 --> 1:04:57.920 says to me is like, yo, I hope he was 1:04:58.000 --> 1:05:01.440 cool with the drive by because he played Bust to 1:05:01.480 --> 1:05:02.920 Move in the background of. 1:05:03.000 --> 1:05:05.840 The drive by on was it was it destinate certificate? 1:05:07.040 --> 1:05:08.400 Was America's despertivity? 1:05:08.440 --> 1:05:09.760 See that's I should know this. 1:05:09.920 --> 1:05:13.840 I'm so, I'm sorry, but okay, so I've said, of 1:05:13.880 --> 1:05:15.960 course that that that gave me some of the best 1:05:15.960 --> 1:05:21.440 street credit I ever had. You know, but I mentioned him. 1:05:22.040 --> 1:05:23.920 I mentioned him like, yeah, I'm thinking of going back 1:05:23.920 --> 1:05:25.600 in and making some records. He don't even look at me. 1:05:25.680 --> 1:05:27.560 He looks at my wife and he's like, you need 1:05:27.600 --> 1:05:29.200 to get him back in the studio. You know you 1:05:29.320 --> 1:05:31.120 can be He's kind of for my wife got scared, 1:05:32.560 --> 1:05:35.280 you know what I mean. But he but he respects 1:05:35.320 --> 1:05:37.400 me so much as an artist and writer from back then, 1:05:38.080 --> 1:05:40.200 and because once again it's all of them on stage. 1:05:40.840 --> 1:05:42.760 But I respect him because I didn't know all he 1:05:42.880 --> 1:05:46.000 wrote for them. I did not know literally until the stuff. 1:05:46.040 --> 1:05:46.960 I didn't see him. 1:05:47.000 --> 1:05:50.640 Yeah so well Easy actually said it on the record. Yeah, 1:05:50.720 --> 1:05:55.080 Easy Easy said ice, Q writes the rhymes that I say. 1:05:55.560 --> 1:05:57.360 And I heard that and I was like, I knew 1:05:57.440 --> 1:06:01.200 this rhyme and I didn't know that they were witten 1:06:01.240 --> 1:06:02.680 the ghost writing back then. 1:06:03.240 --> 1:06:06.040 I didn't know that shit. So you have Q. 1:06:07.160 --> 1:06:11.240 Easy Easy did a big played a big part of 1:06:11.320 --> 1:06:15.040 me being accepted on the West Coast, Easy Wow, because 1:06:15.280 --> 1:06:19.400 I shared stages with them so so and I'm watching 1:06:19.480 --> 1:06:22.360 straight out of Compton and I remember playing those places 1:06:22.480 --> 1:06:25.800 like some of those places represented Skateland World on wheels, 1:06:26.280 --> 1:06:29.480 you know what I mean. And that's where I came up. 1:06:29.920 --> 1:06:35.400 So I would often open for them, and you know, 1:06:35.480 --> 1:06:38.920 they were always cool with me, always great and easy 1:06:39.240 --> 1:06:42.800 you know, accepted me, and and Delicious and Ruthless were 1:06:42.880 --> 1:06:47.000 kind of parallel, you know, at least at least for 1:06:47.080 --> 1:06:50.080 at least for a minute, and they had to. They 1:06:50.160 --> 1:06:52.120 had to acknowledge what we were doing on the pop side, 1:06:52.120 --> 1:06:53.960 and we had to acknowledge what they were doing on 1:06:54.360 --> 1:06:55.439 the on the gangster side. 1:06:56.400 --> 1:06:58.880 But it was all LA and I'm coming from a point. 1:06:58.680 --> 1:07:01.880 Where people were saying La La rappers were whack and 1:07:01.920 --> 1:07:03.680 all that other ship, and I just wasn't hearing it, Like, 1:07:03.720 --> 1:07:05.640 I'm not gonna go up here and change my style 1:07:05.760 --> 1:07:07.560 or try and sound a certain way so that y'all 1:07:07.640 --> 1:07:09.400 I can fit into what you think in LA rappers 1:07:09.440 --> 1:07:11.240 like no, No, I'm from LA and I round like this, 1:07:11.560 --> 1:07:12.280 And I think he's. 1:07:12.160 --> 1:07:14.720 He appreciated that, and I think Cube appreciated that. 1:07:15.320 --> 1:07:18.120 So you take those two just in terms of being 1:07:18.160 --> 1:07:20.120 front men, and then you know Ren and Yellow in 1:07:20.240 --> 1:07:21.600 terms of what they represented for the group. 1:07:21.640 --> 1:07:25.960 And Dre has changed the music from everything from his 1:07:26.120 --> 1:07:27.520 production to. 1:07:27.800 --> 1:07:31.080 To to what you know to death Row to the 1:07:31.160 --> 1:07:34.800 stuff with Interscope, the economics to Beast by Dre. 1:07:35.360 --> 1:07:38.160 Come on, man, it's like I just wanted to see 1:07:38.200 --> 1:07:39.360 y'all drink. I would have picked them up. 1:07:41.720 --> 1:07:45.400 Next question, Yeah, Ice Cube or Biggie Small. 1:07:46.240 --> 1:07:48.960 I gotta say Cube. I gotta say Cube. I never 1:07:49.080 --> 1:07:51.320 met Biggie a lot of respect for Biggie. To me, 1:07:51.760 --> 1:07:55.400 Partying Bullshit is his best record. Like if if if 1:07:55.440 --> 1:08:01.560 you say, okay, who's the man? Yeah, I didn't know 1:08:01.640 --> 1:08:04.600 who that was. That to me shows how good of 1:08:04.640 --> 1:08:07.080 a record is. Like I go into that record with 1:08:07.160 --> 1:08:10.720 no preconceived notions. I was a sister public school. Ever 1:08:11.000 --> 1:08:12.720 bathroom passes and you know what I'm saying. 1:08:12.720 --> 1:08:14.160 I hear that, I'm like, oh my god, who's that. 1:08:15.080 --> 1:08:18.280 It's only like what two years later that you you 1:08:18.400 --> 1:08:20.640 actually see ready to die and you see you know 1:08:20.760 --> 1:08:21.640 who that actually is? 1:08:22.200 --> 1:08:24.639 So for you know, and even going back listening to everything, 1:08:24.960 --> 1:08:26.360 you hear the hunger in that record. 1:08:26.720 --> 1:08:29.639 Yeah, he's a hip hop history. He breaks it down. 1:08:30.240 --> 1:08:31.760 I want to go to a school that you could 1:08:31.800 --> 1:08:34.560 teach like you you got to be teacher. Build it 1:08:35.360 --> 1:08:41.680 damnit literally literally. 1:08:42.960 --> 1:08:46.120 Literally just speak to you all day because and and 1:08:46.400 --> 1:08:49.320 the knowledge, thank you knowledge, that's that's that's real impressive 1:08:49.360 --> 1:08:49.519 to me. 1:08:49.600 --> 1:08:53.240 And to finish, to finish the question, Matt, it was 1:08:54.000 --> 1:08:56.479 what ice Cube or Biggie? 1:08:56.520 --> 1:08:57.400 I just say that up. 1:08:59.240 --> 1:09:03.759 Because he likes yeah exactly, but but ice. 1:09:03.600 --> 1:09:05.760 Cube is just it's just it's just another level, not 1:09:05.840 --> 1:09:07.640 only in a personal level, what I've what I saw 1:09:07.760 --> 1:09:10.880 him do with Nwa, sharing those stages, all the shit 1:09:10.920 --> 1:09:12.400 that they went through, what he was able to do 1:09:12.479 --> 1:09:14.040 as a solo artist, what he's been able to do 1:09:14.080 --> 1:09:17.040 as a businessman. And that's my friend, dude, Like, like, 1:09:17.200 --> 1:09:20.040 I consider Ice Cube a friend and and just to 1:09:20.120 --> 1:09:23.759 be I hadn't seen him, Like when Busting Move happened, 1:09:23.880 --> 1:09:27.160 I left. I'm not doing the hood the hook places anymore, 1:09:27.240 --> 1:09:29.080 and I'm not coming back each record. I'm a pop 1:09:29.200 --> 1:09:31.960 artist at that point. The got the penthouse in West Hollywood. 1:09:32.160 --> 1:09:34.760 That's what's happening. But I always had love for it. 1:09:35.080 --> 1:09:38.320 So when I see him, I'm like, Okay, I hope 1:09:38.320 --> 1:09:40.320 he ain't salty for the fact that I, you know what, 1:09:40.439 --> 1:09:42.120 haven't been around or whatever. And he asked me about 1:09:42.120 --> 1:09:44.000 to drive by it, so I'm like, Okay, he's feeling 1:09:44.040 --> 1:09:45.519 some of what I'm feeling that we haven't been around 1:09:45.560 --> 1:09:45.840 each other. 1:09:46.160 --> 1:09:47.360 COOLi old God rest him. 1:09:47.720 --> 1:09:51.479 After after I had after I had opened for Cube, 1:09:51.840 --> 1:09:53.280 we get to talk in and he said he had 1:09:53.320 --> 1:09:55.120 never shared a stage with Cube, or at least had 1:09:55.200 --> 1:09:57.200 it in twenty years, Like, how does that happen? 1:09:57.439 --> 1:09:59.200 Different agencies, different. 1:09:58.920 --> 1:10:01.400 Approaches, you have a record that crosses over pop Cube 1:10:01.400 --> 1:10:03.720 haddingto it for a while. Also, some of the you know, 1:10:03.880 --> 1:10:06.400 some of the harder ship was harder. It's more difficult 1:10:06.560 --> 1:10:08.560 to get on stage in front of people. Now he 1:10:08.640 --> 1:10:11.960 can to a headline, do whatever he wants. So seeing 1:10:12.040 --> 1:10:16.559 that and you know, just the conversations, conversations we had, 1:10:17.439 --> 1:10:20.080 it makes it makes the two times come together like 1:10:20.160 --> 1:10:22.280 it doesn't feel like there was a gap, you know 1:10:22.320 --> 1:10:22.599 what I mean. 1:10:22.680 --> 1:10:23.840 So that's that's how I feel about Q. 1:10:27.160 --> 1:10:29.639 So let me ask you, Yes, sir, this is off 1:10:30.160 --> 1:10:33.439 drink Chaps, this is not quick Thomas slid moment because 1:10:33.840 --> 1:10:35.640 you just hit me. 1:10:36.479 --> 1:10:40.200 God comes down, God says to you, young and see 1:10:43.240 --> 1:10:48.360 one person can tell your story. Make a movie. Oh boy, 1:10:49.720 --> 1:10:54.479 my choices. Huh, Quentin Tarantino, I don't know why I 1:10:54.560 --> 1:11:03.880 thought that. Yeah, Ice Cube, Bike Lee or Robert de Niro, 1:11:05.640 --> 1:11:07.080 they're going to be a director. 1:11:07.160 --> 1:11:09.720 I would I would say Cube, I would take cue. 1:11:09.760 --> 1:11:10.400 I set you up. 1:11:11.080 --> 1:11:12.760 You know what I thought you were going to ask 1:11:12.840 --> 1:11:15.640 me about the DJ and the or the producer and 1:11:15.800 --> 1:11:18.200 the feature for the record to Save the World. 1:11:18.240 --> 1:11:19.280 That's what I thought You're gonna ask me. 1:11:19.360 --> 1:11:22.000 Then okay, I'm asking now, now, let's have one for 1:11:22.080 --> 1:11:24.160 that one. Wait wait, what are we talking about now? 1:11:24.720 --> 1:11:26.720 No, No, if you said you you had you have 1:11:26.800 --> 1:11:28.759 to make one record to save the world, world, I want. 1:11:28.600 --> 1:11:29.080 To say the world. 1:11:30.080 --> 1:11:31.720 Get back to that saying you say you said you're 1:11:31.720 --> 1:11:34.120 gonna you would let ice Cube because of your relationship 1:11:34.160 --> 1:11:36.880 with ice Cube or that's the perfect person for the job. 1:11:37.520 --> 1:11:38.680 I mean fit for you. 1:11:39.160 --> 1:11:41.639 I think perfect fit because he would he's from the era, 1:11:41.840 --> 1:11:45.160 from the time, from the region, and he. 1:11:45.280 --> 1:11:47.519 Lived through it but understand the material. Yeah. 1:11:47.600 --> 1:11:49.800 So so if you had asked me, you. 1:11:49.840 --> 1:11:50.640 Know, if Yellow was. 1:11:50.640 --> 1:11:52.880 Directed movies, so if Wren was directed movies, I don't 1:11:52.880 --> 1:11:54.320 know them as well, but I would pick them because 1:11:54.320 --> 1:11:55.840 they know the time and the era and everything. I 1:11:55.840 --> 1:11:58.400 wouldn't have to explain it, and their memories you will 1:11:58.439 --> 1:11:59.280 coincide with mine. 1:11:59.479 --> 1:12:04.240 So because that's like, what's crazy, what it's called biopics. Yeah, yeah, 1:12:04.680 --> 1:12:08.720 so biopics. Yeah, everyone always like relates it to the 1:12:08.760 --> 1:12:11.600 people that's alive, Like n w A, they say that that. 1:12:12.080 --> 1:12:13.880 Yeah, I mean, if you I mean and I'd hate 1:12:13.920 --> 1:12:16.760 to say anything negative about any art on this on 1:12:16.920 --> 1:12:21.800 this platform, but that Amy Winehouse Jointmie one. 1:12:21.760 --> 1:12:23.439 House movie this. I mean I saw it. I saw 1:12:23.479 --> 1:12:23.840 it early. 1:12:24.760 --> 1:12:28.240 It was so obvious that it was her family that 1:12:28.439 --> 1:12:30.880 had you know, they throwed a husband under the bus, 1:12:30.960 --> 1:12:33.800 and she wasn't really in the you know, into any 1:12:33.840 --> 1:12:36.000 substances until he came along, and that kind of thing. 1:12:36.200 --> 1:12:38.760 It just when it's so skewed and then and then 1:12:38.800 --> 1:12:42.160 you have somebody like what Mark ronson and produces biggest produce, 1:12:42.200 --> 1:12:44.120 our biggest record and basically changed their life. 1:12:44.000 --> 1:12:45.960 And he barely gets like two seconds in the movie. 1:12:46.720 --> 1:12:47.120 In the movie. 1:12:48.920 --> 1:12:53.040 I believe, So, I believe, but it would be brief, like. 1:12:53.360 --> 1:12:55.880 It had to do more with her home life, family, friends, 1:12:56.040 --> 1:12:58.720 and that just came from you know, them having the 1:12:58.800 --> 1:13:02.200 background of it. But to me, having lived, you know, 1:13:02.320 --> 1:13:05.559 somewhat of an artist's life, there's so many elements to it, dude, 1:13:05.760 --> 1:13:08.840 So I look at that and it just disappoints me 1:13:08.880 --> 1:13:10.920 when you talk about biopictures, like they have to talk 1:13:10.960 --> 1:13:13.320 to everybody and they can't just take it from one side, 1:13:13.360 --> 1:13:15.800 and they can't let one person, especially if the artist 1:13:15.920 --> 1:13:18.400 is dead, you can't just let one person have say 1:13:18.520 --> 1:13:19.200 over everything. 1:13:20.080 --> 1:13:21.240 Yeah, it has to be unbiased. 1:13:21.240 --> 1:13:23.759 So if the artist did something that the family necessarily 1:13:23.800 --> 1:13:25.879 doesn't like you can't just eliminate it from the story. 1:13:25.680 --> 1:13:29.320 Like it never happened. It's retailing history, especially if there's 1:13:29.520 --> 1:13:32.600 millions of witnesses. What happened to this? 1:13:32.880 --> 1:13:33.360 You know what I mean? 1:13:33.479 --> 1:13:36.439 So yeah, go ahead, Yes, that's real. That's real. So 1:13:36.560 --> 1:13:38.720 you were going with ice Q Okay, okay, But what's 1:13:38.720 --> 1:13:41.040 the record that saves the world? What is the record 1:13:42.400 --> 1:13:43.240 the record save the world? 1:13:43.240 --> 1:13:44.800 I'm gonna bow your mind because you'll heard NEI of 1:13:44.880 --> 1:13:47.080 these Scott's stories should be producing it. 1:13:51.200 --> 1:13:51.400 Have not. 1:13:51.640 --> 1:13:54.960 I'm just I just I just I'm not working either 1:13:55.000 --> 1:14:00.800 of these people. The Scott Scott's US would produce it. 1:14:01.520 --> 1:14:07.360 And the rapper, Yes, Strang Wonder from o GC. That's 1:14:08.080 --> 1:14:10.799 that when I say, when I say, that's an influence. 1:14:10.800 --> 1:14:12.439 And I met them. I met Sean Price. 1:14:12.320 --> 1:14:14.240 Before he died, walking through a crowd and he looks 1:14:15.000 --> 1:14:16.200 Russe and he looks at me. 1:14:16.280 --> 1:14:17.760 He's like, yo, you don't give. See I don't give. 1:14:18.000 --> 1:14:24.760 But nobody say about you, you know so. But but yes, 1:14:24.840 --> 1:14:26.559 they would be Scott Stars and strang Wonder. 1:14:26.720 --> 1:14:28.800 I stand on that put the world on that hold on, 1:14:28.880 --> 1:14:30.479 hold on to save the world. By the way, I'm 1:14:30.479 --> 1:14:32.240 sitting this to clip the Scott stor meet. 1:14:34.920 --> 1:14:36.240 But by the way, hold on, hold on, hold on. 1:14:39.280 --> 1:14:42.360 So if you had any producer in the world, God 1:14:42.439 --> 1:14:44.280 coming to you with any producer, and you would pick 1:14:44.320 --> 1:14:45.000 Scott's stores. 1:14:45.040 --> 1:14:47.280 That is such a no, no no. But because the 1:14:47.360 --> 1:14:52.600 thing is, I'm asking in in terms of what moved. 1:14:52.360 --> 1:14:55.560 Me when I heard it, Like Dayman considered him the 1:14:55.600 --> 1:15:00.639 best producer, but but what God, why we thugs with Cube? 1:15:02.320 --> 1:15:05.920 The stuff, the stuff he did, Gosh, the stuff he 1:15:05.960 --> 1:15:08.960 did with method Man, Like that four to twenty one 1:15:09.000 --> 1:15:11.760 album is so underrated. It seemed like a downpoint down 1:15:11.880 --> 1:15:15.000 downtime and hip hop. I listen to that record again. 1:15:14.920 --> 1:15:16.960 I can inspired lyrically and musically to this day. 1:15:17.600 --> 1:15:18.320 Really, you know what I mean. 1:15:18.360 --> 1:15:20.040 I listen to Why We Don's and I'm like, that's 1:15:20.080 --> 1:15:20.559 not something. 1:15:20.640 --> 1:15:20.840 I mean. 1:15:20.880 --> 1:15:22.800 I was happy that when I open a Cube, but 1:15:23.080 --> 1:15:26.080 literally the twenty seven records, I like snuck a picture 1:15:26.120 --> 1:15:28.760 of the playlist, But I was happy that he did 1:15:28.840 --> 1:15:30.800 that because he could easily do a whole show and 1:15:30.880 --> 1:15:31.599 not do that record. 1:15:32.040 --> 1:15:35.240 But part of what makes both of those so strong 1:15:35.320 --> 1:15:36.439 for me, it's got storage. 1:15:36.800 --> 1:15:38.439 Wow, Yeah, that's so. 1:15:39.640 --> 1:15:45.000 And then strange Lafleur lafly Scot that's one of the. 1:15:45.120 --> 1:15:47.559 Unted record in hip hop. Is one of the best 1:15:48.120 --> 1:15:49.640 coffee And. 1:15:49.680 --> 1:15:54.519 If you listen, if from an MC standpoint, invariably when 1:15:54.520 --> 1:15:56.760 I'm listening to those records and then I go back 1:15:56.760 --> 1:16:00.439 and listen to like the OGC records, his verses are 1:16:00.479 --> 1:16:03.040 the ones that stand down, you know what I mean? 1:16:03.520 --> 1:16:06.080 How many corner MC want to try when straight shit 1:16:06.160 --> 1:16:09.240 hit up like that? For you kidding me and I'm 1:16:09.280 --> 1:16:11.080 in LA So I'm like, what is gonna tie me 1:16:11.160 --> 1:16:11.680 to New York? 1:16:12.160 --> 1:16:13.280 His lyrics. 1:16:14.400 --> 1:16:17.120 Like we're a linked to me to say, Okay, this 1:16:17.280 --> 1:16:19.040 is what This is the evolution of New York rap. 1:16:19.120 --> 1:16:20.000 This is the evolution of New. 1:16:20.000 --> 1:16:21.000 York kit pop's the range. 1:16:21.200 --> 1:16:26.320 Absolutely, though you fucked me up, you officially hooked me up. 1:16:26.800 --> 1:16:29.040 Definitely come with the cookie cutter on that one coolio 1:16:29.320 --> 1:16:32.280 or easy. Oh god man, we could drink rest in 1:16:32.320 --> 1:16:32.880 Peace today. 1:16:34.040 --> 1:16:35.920 I mean all right, so y'all could drink I'm gonna 1:16:35.920 --> 1:16:36.519 say both. 1:16:39.200 --> 1:16:44.000 Cheers, so look, you can get the good stuff. 1:16:46.600 --> 1:16:50.479 Tone Lok is my closest friend in the music business. 1:16:50.520 --> 1:16:51.479 Like I said, like blood to me. 1:16:52.080 --> 1:16:54.640 Over the last. 1:16:57.120 --> 1:17:01.360 Seven eight years, until he passed. Coolio was right there. 1:17:01.840 --> 1:17:04.280 I opened for him. We spend time together, travel with 1:17:04.400 --> 1:17:08.040 his crew, met his family, went to Vegas for his birthday. 1:17:09.200 --> 1:17:12.280 I mean we would we talk about music, he you know, 1:17:12.479 --> 1:17:17.560 I would, and and the thing is he understood what 1:17:17.680 --> 1:17:20.120 it was like to be making West Coast music and 1:17:20.160 --> 1:17:23.320 then have a massive hit record that kind of overshadows everything, 1:17:23.720 --> 1:17:24.559 but then you still. 1:17:24.400 --> 1:17:25.840 Want to be the artist and that kind of thing. 1:17:26.160 --> 1:17:29.080 So me and him related and just on so many levels. 1:17:29.120 --> 1:17:30.400 It broke my heart in he past. 1:17:33.080 --> 1:17:37.559 Easy, As I told you before, Easy was someone who 1:17:37.680 --> 1:17:42.000 made my acceptance by the West Coast a lot smoother 1:17:42.880 --> 1:17:46.160 because I would be around them and it would be 1:17:46.280 --> 1:17:48.800 and honestly, this is before a busting. 1:17:48.520 --> 1:17:49.840 Move, you know, you know pop. 1:17:50.560 --> 1:17:53.360 But from the records I had made, he saw my 1:17:53.479 --> 1:17:57.840 skill and you know, acknowledged me for it and was 1:17:57.880 --> 1:17:59.679 good to me, you know what I mean. So I've 1:17:59.720 --> 1:18:02.759 reasoned and the love both men. Would you have wrote 1:18:02.760 --> 1:18:05.839 for Easy if you to act? Yeah, yeah, absolutely I wouldn't. 1:18:05.840 --> 1:18:07.559 I'm not gonna I'm not gonna say no at that point. 1:18:07.800 --> 1:18:09.160 But a lot of people to ask you to like 1:18:09.400 --> 1:18:11.719 write like a drive by record, like a gangster record. 1:18:11.840 --> 1:18:14.280 Well, there's only I mean, there's only so much. I mean, look, 1:18:14.880 --> 1:18:17.000 it's funny because I looked over all my albums and 1:18:17.120 --> 1:18:19.040 the album that I kind of went furthest away from 1:18:19.080 --> 1:18:23.760 myself is my ninety three What's the Flavor album? Ali 1:18:23.880 --> 1:18:28.000 Shahid Mohammad produced some, but the single was one that 1:18:28.080 --> 1:18:30.599 I produced. But you know, they had me wearing calm. 1:18:30.720 --> 1:18:32.640 You know, they had me wearing fatigues and then you know, 1:18:33.040 --> 1:18:37.200 just just trying to look like something I wasn't necessarily 1:18:37.240 --> 1:18:39.640 because everybody was. There was such a backlash and they 1:18:39.680 --> 1:18:41.680 wanted stuff to be gangster. But I wasn't going to 1:18:41.800 --> 1:18:43.320 change my name when I wasn't going to start cursing 1:18:43.360 --> 1:18:48.120 on the record, just wasn't going to happen. So you know, 1:18:50.200 --> 1:18:52.280 if Easy had asked me, I'd have done it. If 1:18:52.280 --> 1:18:53.760 I had to curse in it for him, I would, 1:18:53.840 --> 1:18:56.960 I'd have done it. Yeah, I mean, it's it's worked. 1:18:57.080 --> 1:19:00.760 And also I'm the kind of person where I like 1:19:00.880 --> 1:19:03.840 to see the people around me experience some of what 1:19:03.920 --> 1:19:04.600 I experienced. 1:19:04.760 --> 1:19:06.880 Part of what part of why I'm so high to. 1:19:06.920 --> 1:19:08.400 I putting on new music now is that I have 1:19:08.560 --> 1:19:11.479 friends that have been my friends for twenty five years 1:19:11.520 --> 1:19:13.559 that have never gone on the ride with me, never 1:19:13.640 --> 1:19:16.080 see me with a hit record, and just to know 1:19:16.240 --> 1:19:18.680 that I have someone with that level of commitment to 1:19:18.800 --> 1:19:21.400 me when records aren't hot, I'd love to have a 1:19:21.439 --> 1:19:23.719 record that's hot and be able to you know, text 1:19:23.800 --> 1:19:26.400 my man that you know absolutely? 1:19:27.120 --> 1:19:29.800 Do you think he was the first young Yeah? That's 1:19:29.840 --> 1:19:33.040 what I like. How a hell of your time? Were 1:19:33.120 --> 1:19:35.120 you a young name? 1:19:35.800 --> 1:19:38.720 And it's my last name? But you know, oh, you 1:19:38.800 --> 1:19:39.240 didn't know that. 1:19:40.360 --> 1:19:41.360 I didn't even think of it either. 1:19:41.439 --> 1:19:43.280 Yeah, yeah, Young is my Marvin Young. Young is my 1:19:43.360 --> 1:19:43.760 last name. 1:19:44.000 --> 1:19:45.000 So he wasn't even thinking. 1:19:45.240 --> 1:19:50.160 You know, I'm the twelve year old hanging around the 1:19:50.200 --> 1:19:52.160 eighteen year olds at the block party. You know, but 1:19:52.240 --> 1:19:54.040 I can rhyme as good or better than them that 1:19:54.120 --> 1:19:54.960 they're not happy about. 1:19:55.439 --> 1:19:56.320 But yeah, I was. 1:19:56.439 --> 1:19:59.879 I was the first young with an oh spelled correctly 1:20:00.600 --> 1:20:02.719 and I and I have to trademark. 1:20:04.320 --> 1:20:07.439 Why you and did you ever think at that time 1:20:07.560 --> 1:20:11.439 that there would be a plethora of young MC's literally you. 1:20:11.479 --> 1:20:14.120 Know, it's just dude, and you go online, there's people imitating, 1:20:14.320 --> 1:20:17.479 you know, impersonating trying to I mean, it is what 1:20:17.600 --> 1:20:17.800 it is. 1:20:17.880 --> 1:20:20.400 I mean the imitation being a form of flattery. All good. 1:20:21.439 --> 1:20:27.120 That was dope, Okay, self destructure, all in the same game, 1:20:27.920 --> 1:20:30.360 all on the same We know that I told you 1:20:30.400 --> 1:20:31.799 just comes from Columbias and Dominicans. 1:20:32.160 --> 1:20:40.840 Big Daddy came j Wow, oh man, all right, both 1:20:41.640 --> 1:20:49.040 we got our shots lined up, me and Kane. 1:20:50.479 --> 1:20:53.280 It's funny because because when Nohow came out, I know, 1:20:53.400 --> 1:20:56.400 me and Kane had a discussion because he had what 1:20:56.560 --> 1:20:58.519 was it? What was the fast when he had was it? 1:20:58.640 --> 1:20:59.240 I get raw? 1:21:02.080 --> 1:21:04.880 Yeah, So we had a discussion about fastest wrapping, rapping 1:21:04.920 --> 1:21:05.439 and stuff like that. 1:21:05.560 --> 1:21:06.760 And I've always respected him and. 1:21:07.040 --> 1:21:10.240 I was a fan of his before I came out 1:21:11.400 --> 1:21:16.000 l L to see what what that record did from 1:21:16.080 --> 1:21:18.479 radio on what he's doesn't you know has done as 1:21:18.479 --> 1:21:21.719 an actor, rock the bells all that. It's impressive, dude, 1:21:21.880 --> 1:21:24.880 It's just it's just really impressive. So on both levels, 1:21:25.400 --> 1:21:26.800 I got you know, I would get both of them 1:21:26.800 --> 1:21:27.360 their flowers. 1:21:27.760 --> 1:21:30.760 That's dope. That's dope. You got the next one? D 1:21:31.520 --> 1:21:34.280 or a tribe called quest Oh man. 1:21:34.920 --> 1:21:37.160 I love pasta news due, but I gotta say tribe. 1:21:37.479 --> 1:21:40.960 I gotta say tribe. Ali produced Produce produced a record 1:21:41.040 --> 1:21:44.560 on me. Q Tip has always been good fife and 1:21:44.880 --> 1:21:47.080 I get so inspired. There's no record that moves me 1:21:47.200 --> 1:21:51.280 like check them rhyme. No record, oh god, yeah, no, 1:21:51.479 --> 1:21:54.840 no record that moves me like that Heavy D or 1:21:54.920 --> 1:21:58.120 chub rock I would say, I would say heavy D. 1:21:58.760 --> 1:22:00.280 I would say I had done a few shows a 1:22:00.320 --> 1:22:04.280 heavy D. And I still remember when when when not 1:22:04.439 --> 1:22:06.759 only when he passed, but if you remember his dancer 1:22:06.800 --> 1:22:10.880 passed on tour, and that was that was heartbreaking for 1:22:11.000 --> 1:22:12.519 all of us that we're doing because we're all doing 1:22:12.560 --> 1:22:15.840 it at the same time, but to see what what 1:22:15.960 --> 1:22:20.519 he did, how the how the records crossed. He was 1:22:20.600 --> 1:22:22.760 one of He's really one of the first to have 1:22:23.240 --> 1:22:26.519 rap records that that consistently crossed in the urban radio, 1:22:26.960 --> 1:22:28.960 so they wouldn't go all the way Papa. 1:22:29.000 --> 1:22:30.960 Do you see the R and B stations playing a 1:22:31.000 --> 1:22:33.160 lot of heavy D. Yeah, So that was a big deal. 1:22:33.320 --> 1:22:35.000 That was a big because once again, it just it 1:22:35.160 --> 1:22:38.040 just kind of spread the scope of where hip hop 1:22:38.120 --> 1:22:38.360 could go. 1:22:40.360 --> 1:22:46.040 That's real. You got this, Yeah, it's gonna hurt group 1:22:46.120 --> 1:22:49.040 chat l A or New York. 1:22:50.000 --> 1:22:56.920 Oh no, I know you ain't gonna like this. I 1:22:57.960 --> 1:22:58.680 gotta say l A. 1:23:00.160 --> 1:23:03.240 That it's been the last ten to fifteen years. It's 1:23:03.280 --> 1:23:05.280 been the last ten to fifteen years. But like I said, 1:23:05.640 --> 1:23:08.120 if I stayed in New York, you wouldn't have heard 1:23:08.160 --> 1:23:10.320 of me. You be in a New York MC, if 1:23:10.360 --> 1:23:12.519 you're around a lot of older New York MC's, they 1:23:12.520 --> 1:23:14.240 don't want to hear about you having a new style. 1:23:14.439 --> 1:23:15.800 They don't want to hear about you having a new 1:23:15.920 --> 1:23:17.800 It just was like we own all this blah blah 1:23:17.840 --> 1:23:18.599 blah la. 1:23:19.200 --> 1:23:21.280 There's so many New York artists that get put on 1:23:21.439 --> 1:23:22.200 from other places. 1:23:22.320 --> 1:23:27.360 So yeah, because because like it's not a big area, 1:23:27.920 --> 1:23:30.920 so you could easily have someone that's in control of 1:23:31.000 --> 1:23:31.720 a whole lot. 1:23:31.800 --> 1:23:35.719 There's a lot of gatekeepers where there wasn't There wasn't 1:23:35.720 --> 1:23:37.200 that much of a of a gate to. 1:23:37.280 --> 1:23:37.840 Keep in LA. 1:23:38.400 --> 1:23:39.559 A couple of artists that were out. 1:23:39.960 --> 1:23:42.640 But I played all these places and open up for 1:23:42.680 --> 1:23:45.360 all these acts, and especially you know, the ability to 1:23:45.439 --> 1:23:47.840 cross over, you know what I mean, There was no 1:23:48.000 --> 1:23:50.400 resentment in LA. If I crossed over from New York, 1:23:50.400 --> 1:23:51.280 that would have been resentment. 1:23:52.240 --> 1:23:52.800 Mmmm. 1:23:53.960 --> 1:23:55.360 That's interesting that you say it that way. 1:23:55.400 --> 1:23:57.759 So that's how that whole thing that I said about 1:23:58.280 --> 1:24:00.360 in Hip hop they would have frowned upon I'm going 1:24:00.400 --> 1:24:03.280 commercial in LA or the West Coast, you were going 1:24:03.360 --> 1:24:03.720 to feel that. 1:24:03.760 --> 1:24:04.719 Where did they make commercials? 1:24:04.760 --> 1:24:04.800 Do? 1:24:05.760 --> 1:24:08.080 Where did they make commercials? They make more commercials in LA. 1:24:14.840 --> 1:24:18.040 There were so many examples. I mean, Ice team makes 1:24:18.120 --> 1:24:19.960 colors and now and now he's an actors So it's 1:24:19.960 --> 1:24:22.160 like what you know, you're going, Oh, he's on you 1:24:22.240 --> 1:24:24.800 know SV, he's in long order. 1:24:24.840 --> 1:24:28.519 So I'm not gonna whatever, know whereas New. 1:24:28.479 --> 1:24:31.040 York at least not once again, this is my experience 1:24:31.040 --> 1:24:32.880 as a child not being able to get into clubs, 1:24:32.880 --> 1:24:34.200 and you know what I mean, So it's a little 1:24:34.200 --> 1:24:36.400 bit different. I wasn't able to get indoors, but just 1:24:36.439 --> 1:24:38.160 from what I had seen and what I was able 1:24:38.200 --> 1:24:41.879 to access when I got to l A, Yeah, it's 1:24:42.000 --> 1:24:42.880 just different in LA. 1:24:44.120 --> 1:24:47.960 So big of l A. It's okay. It's okay, buddy, 1:24:50.280 --> 1:24:51.120 Yeah you got this one. 1:24:51.840 --> 1:24:52.240 I got it. 1:24:52.439 --> 1:24:57.519 Ad Gang Star or nicest move, whatever story we want 1:24:57.560 --> 1:24:57.800 to say. 1:25:00.040 --> 1:25:02.479 I would say gang Star, Oh yeah, yeah. 1:25:02.600 --> 1:25:08.439 Premiere Premiere is a producer Guru rest in Peace Guru, 1:25:08.560 --> 1:25:15.800 but Guru is an EMC. Just how groundbreaking it was 1:25:16.160 --> 1:25:18.840 in terms of going over like straight samples and hip 1:25:18.880 --> 1:25:22.920 hops like like Gang Star made anthems like Nice and 1:25:22.960 --> 1:25:25.360 Smooth has has some good records. I won't I won't lie, 1:25:25.439 --> 1:25:27.920 but Gangstar to me, at least in my experience, I 1:25:28.040 --> 1:25:31.320 saw anthems, you know several coming out of gangs. 1:25:31.400 --> 1:25:33.640 Ices Moove has one of the best best rhymes I 1:25:33.720 --> 1:25:37.680 ever think I heard in hip hop collaborative. 1:25:37.800 --> 1:25:40.080 Anybody want to ask me? Anybody want to ask me? 1:25:40.680 --> 1:25:41.280 What's the rhyme? 1:25:41.600 --> 1:25:44.120 Is that, no matter how many times the ball bounces, 1:25:44.360 --> 1:25:46.080 there's still no bones in ice cream? 1:25:47.280 --> 1:25:47.720 I love? 1:25:48.360 --> 1:25:50.920 Are you sure that's the rhyme? You never heard that 1:25:51.479 --> 1:25:53.960 no matter how many times the ball balances, there's still 1:25:54.040 --> 1:25:59.120 no bones in ice cream? Why would he make that up? Well? 1:25:59.120 --> 1:25:59.439 I mean. 1:26:03.760 --> 1:26:05.439 On my Piland and queens iPod. 1:26:06.840 --> 1:26:09.040 Oh, that line is always like the dope there's the 1:26:09.080 --> 1:26:10.840 dopeest shit to me because I still don't know what 1:26:10.960 --> 1:26:11.800 technically what it means. 1:26:13.000 --> 1:26:16.639 Okay, yeah, I want the lady to be in a drink. Yes, Okay, 1:26:17.000 --> 1:26:18.240 I'm going to the next one. 1:26:18.720 --> 1:26:21.680 Fresh Prince, well Jesse, just on the Fresh Prince, Rob 1:26:21.720 --> 1:26:22.720 bass and easy rock. 1:26:23.880 --> 1:26:27.479 Oh man, all right, I have to say rob based 1:26:27.479 --> 1:26:29.160 and easy rock. I know you're grabbing the dress, but 1:26:29.280 --> 1:26:33.040 I can't. I mean, I've done hundreds of shows. 1:26:33.240 --> 1:26:35.280 It Takes Two is probably one of the most iconic 1:26:35.360 --> 1:26:36.439 hip hop bric. Here's the thing. 1:26:38.080 --> 1:26:40.240 On some levels, some people were saying that Bust to 1:26:40.280 --> 1:26:42.000 Move was based on It Takes Too. There wasn't a 1:26:42.080 --> 1:26:43.840 lady singing in a hook until It Takes Too and 1:26:43.920 --> 1:26:47.080 that came out before Busting Move, you know what I mean. Now, 1:26:47.720 --> 1:26:49.760 I know the difference of it. It's a different style 1:26:49.800 --> 1:26:54.160 different but in terms of single rapper rapping over a 1:26:54.240 --> 1:26:59.160 break beat, you know, somewhat melodic female singing over one 1:26:59.240 --> 1:27:02.519 hundred and ten beats a minute, there wasn't that much 1:27:02.600 --> 1:27:04.599 of that then if you're talking eighty eight eighty nine, 1:27:05.320 --> 1:27:06.759 So there was definitely some influence. 1:27:07.400 --> 1:27:09.760 Just straight feel good record. Yeah, well that. 1:27:10.240 --> 1:27:11.280 Yeah, that's that's what it is. 1:27:11.400 --> 1:27:14.000 And just to go off on a little tangent when 1:27:14.040 --> 1:27:16.760 people talk about keeping it real, if I was to 1:27:16.920 --> 1:27:20.040 change my name, start cursing and records whatever, that wouldn't 1:27:20.040 --> 1:27:21.920 be keeping it real to me. I have thirty five 1:27:22.080 --> 1:27:24.720 thirty seven years. I'm not cussing in records. Make it 1:27:24.760 --> 1:27:26.719 feel good party records, that's my real. 1:27:26.640 --> 1:27:27.280 You're rock kill. 1:27:28.680 --> 1:27:30.800 So that's the thing when you and the doc joint, 1:27:30.800 --> 1:27:32.519 when you brought up that he didn't swear. I didn't 1:27:32.560 --> 1:27:33.439 realize he didn't swear. 1:27:33.439 --> 1:27:33.920 He's so good. 1:27:33.960 --> 1:27:35.880 I realized it either, I did. 1:27:36.000 --> 1:27:38.439 I didn't realize it isn't cursing his records. I'm like, man, 1:27:38.520 --> 1:27:40.240 if I could be, if I could get it like 1:27:40.320 --> 1:27:47.559 that where people didn't notice, that's dope, Okay. Beastie Boys 1:27:47.600 --> 1:27:48.360 are the fat Boys. 1:27:49.680 --> 1:27:52.000 Oh, Beastie Boys, dude, and the Beastie Boys. 1:27:52.560 --> 1:27:58.439 For several reasons, the Dust Brothers produced No how So, 1:27:58.560 --> 1:28:00.880 before the Dust Brothers produced a beast Boys, I had 1:28:01.000 --> 1:28:02.360 a couple of records on with them. 1:28:02.439 --> 1:28:04.960 Yeah, yeah, so there was a link there. 1:28:06.120 --> 1:28:09.519 I want to say Tamra Davis and if I'm messing 1:28:09.600 --> 1:28:13.240 up names, she she was affiliated with the with with 1:28:13.360 --> 1:28:17.160 the Beastie Boys, and she directed I want to I 1:28:17.280 --> 1:28:20.640 think she did the Principal's Office video. So, and and 1:28:20.720 --> 1:28:22.559 there would be clubs in La and plays in La. 1:28:22.640 --> 1:28:24.320 What I see I see them running around and this 1:28:24.479 --> 1:28:25.760 is right after they. 1:28:25.720 --> 1:28:30.040 Moved right love Boutique. I feel that, well, they'd have to. 1:28:30.160 --> 1:28:33.160 To work with the Dust Brothers, right, so, and and 1:28:33.479 --> 1:28:36.840 that that that's like a sample heaven hell record. There's 1:28:36.880 --> 1:28:39.400 so many samples on her. It's a groundbreaking record in 1:28:39.520 --> 1:28:41.920 terms of production. So that's why I would say Beastie 1:28:41.960 --> 1:28:43.519 Boys because there were so many things they did as 1:28:43.560 --> 1:28:45.880 a group, but in terms of my own personal experience, 1:28:46.760 --> 1:28:49.439 what they were able to do in that hip hop 1:28:49.520 --> 1:28:51.960 space with guys that i'd work with, you know what 1:28:52.000 --> 1:28:52.280 I mean? 1:28:52.680 --> 1:28:56.519 It was it was Special Battlecat or DJ Quick. 1:28:57.960 --> 1:29:02.639 Yeah, yeah, Oh, I haven't thought this long in a minute. 1:29:03.680 --> 1:29:06.479 What's the name of his drink, Cousin Francis, Cousin Francis. 1:29:06.960 --> 1:29:08.680 And you could get a Cousin Norri when you get 1:29:08.760 --> 1:29:10.639 when you added a little bit of baka, it's called 1:29:10.640 --> 1:29:11.280 a Cousin Norri. 1:29:11.400 --> 1:29:19.080 Now all right, I gotta say quick, I gotta say 1:29:19.320 --> 1:29:25.439 I gotta say DJ Quick. He he is such an 1:29:25.520 --> 1:29:29.439 inspiration to me, and also he has let me know 1:29:29.840 --> 1:29:31.640 you know how he's been inspired by me. 1:29:34.920 --> 1:29:37.120 Amg is A is a close friend in his crew. 1:29:37.200 --> 1:29:41.320 I saw them at at at a couple at a 1:29:41.360 --> 1:29:44.360 couple of shows recently, and that that whole crew is 1:29:44.640 --> 1:29:50.880 just a great representation of West Coast hip hop to me, 1:29:51.800 --> 1:29:54.599 and I feel a lot of the same journey, even 1:29:54.640 --> 1:29:56.519 though battle Cat did DJ for me way way back 1:29:56.560 --> 1:29:59.120 in the day. A lot of battle Cat's more recent success, 1:29:59.200 --> 1:30:01.560 I haven't been Party two as much as I have 1:30:02.280 --> 1:30:07.240 Quick and just his journey as an artist, him as 1:30:07.280 --> 1:30:08.960 a lyricist, like this part of me that will put 1:30:09.040 --> 1:30:11.280 Quick in my top five in turn, because he's so 1:30:11.439 --> 1:30:15.920 underrated artist and producer or just artists. As an MC, 1:30:16.080 --> 1:30:21.160 he's so underrated. I can go off on another tangent 1:30:21.200 --> 1:30:24.839 if you want, but the change. Okay, you're a Jet fan. Continue, 1:30:24.920 --> 1:30:29.639 you're you're a Jet fan. It's horrible, that hard, it's hardy. Yes, 1:30:29.760 --> 1:30:32.240 I am a Jet fan. Last year, me and my 1:30:32.360 --> 1:30:35.760 wife were taken to and we did my fiance at 1:30:35.800 --> 1:30:38.240 the time, but my wife. Now, we were invited to 1:30:38.439 --> 1:30:41.799 go see the Jets play the Raiders in Las Vegas. 1:30:41.960 --> 1:30:44.040 Okay it sounds horrible. Yeah. 1:30:45.400 --> 1:30:48.639 One of my good friends, uh, Brad, Brad Armstrong owns 1:30:48.680 --> 1:30:52.200 it owns a bunch of roller rinks, has season tickets. 1:30:52.200 --> 1:30:53.519 If you ever wants a Raiders game. You see the 1:30:53.520 --> 1:30:55.960 guy that holds up the fist, that's my man, Brad. 1:30:56.320 --> 1:30:58.120 So he had he has season tickets. Can you get 1:30:58.200 --> 1:31:02.080 us in? I go wearing a Quincy Williams jersey. My 1:31:02.160 --> 1:31:05.320 wife goes in an Xavier Gibson jersey to show you 1:31:05.400 --> 1:31:07.000 how current. If you know the squad, you know that 1:31:07.080 --> 1:31:09.320 those are those are high players from the last like 1:31:09.560 --> 1:31:10.040 year or two. 1:31:10.160 --> 1:31:11.840 I'm trying to figure out where the story going. 1:31:13.439 --> 1:31:17.479 He takes us to the tailgating in Raider Alley in Vegas. 1:31:17.760 --> 1:31:22.640 All they're banging is Bay shit. You're hearing like like 1:31:22.720 --> 1:31:26.519 we're still in Oakland. DJ's had the best tackles of 1:31:26.600 --> 1:31:26.960 my life. 1:31:27.320 --> 1:31:29.120 But people look at me because we're the only ones 1:31:29.160 --> 1:31:31.360 in jet jerseys walking out later Alley. 1:31:33.200 --> 1:31:38.360 Superper every no, everybody was respectful. But the bottom line 1:31:38.479 --> 1:31:39.920 was I heard a whole bunch of West Coast I 1:31:39.960 --> 1:31:42.000 mean a whole bunch of bass stuff, to the point 1:31:42.040 --> 1:31:45.920 where the new records that I'm putting out, people have said, 1:31:46.000 --> 1:31:47.920 why do you have such a Bay influence on your music? 1:31:47.920 --> 1:31:49.880 Because that experienced this so much for me. 1:31:50.479 --> 1:31:53.000 But the only artist that I heard that I recognized 1:31:53.520 --> 1:31:57.360 was Quick Over something that sounded like down down down 1:31:57.439 --> 1:32:00.320 but wasn't down down down, but it was our see 1:32:00.320 --> 1:32:02.040 an older record, but it was able to just go 1:32:02.240 --> 1:32:04.240 with all the base stuff and quicks not from the bay. 1:32:04.640 --> 1:32:07.320 But there's such a respect for him and his stuff 1:32:07.360 --> 1:32:10.080 blends so well and keeps a vibe going that always 1:32:10.120 --> 1:32:13.439 stuck with me. Like what he can do in terms 1:32:13.520 --> 1:32:16.479 of opening doors and and and and getting into places 1:32:16.520 --> 1:32:17.120 with his music. 1:32:18.400 --> 1:32:19.679 It's it's it's really impressive. 1:32:19.880 --> 1:32:23.960 No, production wise, he's incredible. Yeah. Is that story? 1:32:25.080 --> 1:32:25.280 Yeah? 1:32:25.640 --> 1:32:28.240 Is that story true? That he locked himself And I 1:32:28.360 --> 1:32:29.800 never asked him this, I should have, but. 1:32:35.960 --> 1:32:37.800 That he had locked that he had locked himself in 1:32:37.880 --> 1:32:40.560 the studio or locked himself, you know, down with his 1:32:40.600 --> 1:32:42.160 equipment for two years to learn how to play. 1:32:42.200 --> 1:32:44.519 Well, we're gonna take this clip and we're gonna show 1:32:45.920 --> 1:32:47.040 you're gonna ask you a question. 1:32:47.320 --> 1:32:50.120 Yeah, no, no, because because it's obvious that he's an 1:32:50.120 --> 1:32:53.400 amazing player. But I know some guys that were classically 1:32:53.439 --> 1:32:54.960 trained and alight, and and that was. 1:32:54.960 --> 1:32:55.679 That was the story. 1:32:56.200 --> 1:32:58.640 That was the story that that he was literally you know, 1:32:58.720 --> 1:33:00.920 put himself in front of his equipment for over a year, 1:33:01.000 --> 1:33:03.280 not if not two years to learn how to get 1:33:03.320 --> 1:33:05.200 better as a producer and then just came out came 1:33:05.240 --> 1:33:07.040 out with you know, with with his sound. 1:33:08.280 --> 1:33:14.080 So anyway, that's that's dope, that's dope. Okay, got it? Yeah, 1:33:14.439 --> 1:33:16.559 got the next one? You m TV raps or Music 1:33:16.680 --> 1:33:21.840 Video Box all y'all could drink both, Okay, yeah, yeah, 1:33:21.920 --> 1:33:22.360 yeah yeah. 1:33:23.040 --> 1:33:29.880 Video Video Music Box, Ralph McDaniels, vig Kid influenced me 1:33:29.960 --> 1:33:31.519 while I was still in New York, before I even 1:33:31.560 --> 1:33:35.280 went to college. Your MTV Raps was more of an 1:33:35.320 --> 1:33:38.320 influence once I got to LA and was able to 1:33:38.360 --> 1:33:40.240 come back with a hit record. So it's really two 1:33:40.280 --> 1:33:44.200 different parts of my life that you're asking me to to, 1:33:44.439 --> 1:33:46.280 you know. So, I'm not gonna say, oh, the later 1:33:46.360 --> 1:33:48.240 part when when the record blew up, is better than 1:33:48.280 --> 1:33:50.439 the early part because I was influenced by Video Music Box, 1:33:50.640 --> 1:33:52.920 Oh Channel forty seven, you know what I'm saying that 1:33:53.160 --> 1:33:56.400 that was my that was my thing. But then MTV now, 1:33:57.080 --> 1:34:01.479 MTV jams everybody and that cable. I'm on a road 1:34:01.520 --> 1:34:03.559 for a lot of it, but I saw the influence 1:34:03.640 --> 1:34:05.800 of it, and then when they allowed them to get 1:34:06.000 --> 1:34:09.160 everybody in hip hop on there, that was serious. That's 1:34:09.200 --> 1:34:12.240 when MTV was at their peak and hip hop was 1:34:12.320 --> 1:34:14.559 really getting established. So if you talk about hip hop 1:34:14.640 --> 1:34:19.400 on a global scale, and I'm sorry, your TV Raps 1:34:19.439 --> 1:34:23.639 did a lot more from that. Yeah, Okay, Soul Trained 1:34:23.800 --> 1:34:31.040 or Apollo m I'd say soul trained. I'd say soul 1:34:31.120 --> 1:34:37.880 trained because in terms of exposing you know, the joke 1:34:37.960 --> 1:34:39.920 I have is like people like like black people can 1:34:39.960 --> 1:34:42.400 tell a space and time if you say, yeah, yeah, 1:34:42.400 --> 1:34:44.559 that's right. Around the year It's soul people started, Soul 1:34:44.600 --> 1:34:47.960 Train started letting white people on. You know what I'm saying, Like, 1:34:48.240 --> 1:34:50.439 like every every every person who watched Soul Train be like, 1:34:50.680 --> 1:34:54.840 I remember that. So Soul Train did more for me 1:34:55.080 --> 1:34:58.439 in terms of exposing more people to more music. 1:34:59.040 --> 1:35:00.080 The Apollo. 1:35:01.160 --> 1:35:04.040 It was like you went into an arena, you did 1:35:04.120 --> 1:35:06.519 your stuff, But in terms of exposing people to music, 1:35:06.600 --> 1:35:09.200 it was less about that as it was about just 1:35:09.600 --> 1:35:14.479 the personality of the Apollo to me, Yeah, yeah, intimidating place. 1:35:15.439 --> 1:35:17.519 Paying your dues, like paying your dues. 1:35:17.600 --> 1:35:20.639 The story I'll tell my second album, This is during 1:35:20.720 --> 1:35:22.080 the time when we have dancers. So I think I 1:35:22.160 --> 1:35:24.560 had either four or six dancers at the time, and 1:35:24.920 --> 1:35:26.680 I'm doing my song. I want to say is that's 1:35:26.800 --> 1:35:28.559 that's the way that goes, And there's a little break 1:35:28.600 --> 1:35:31.120 in there, so I get the crowd hype during my 1:35:31.240 --> 1:35:33.760 break and realize that I've gotten so hyped that my 1:35:34.280 --> 1:35:38.840 next verses started and yeah, throw your hand, you know 1:35:38.880 --> 1:35:40.800 what I mean, try not to show that you made 1:35:40.800 --> 1:35:44.200 a mistake. I picked up my verse from the choreography, 1:35:44.920 --> 1:35:48.400 fifth line, they walk back, I say this boom jump 1:35:48.479 --> 1:35:50.439 right in. Nobody ever missed it. But it was my 1:35:50.560 --> 1:35:52.800 nerves of being on the Apollo. But then I'm like, oh, 1:35:52.800 --> 1:35:55.320 I'm capable of doing that. So they was pulling people 1:35:55.360 --> 1:36:01.880 back then, they wasn't gonna pull me. Oh you said 1:36:01.880 --> 1:36:03.800 boot I thought what she meant, pole like literally like, 1:36:04.479 --> 1:36:06.800 I mean, yeah, they've always wow people. 1:36:06.800 --> 1:36:07.719 I don't know if I got booze. 1:36:07.880 --> 1:36:08.120 I don't. 1:36:08.160 --> 1:36:08.439 I don't. 1:36:08.520 --> 1:36:10.800 I don't think I did, but I would have if 1:36:10.840 --> 1:36:12.800 I had just stopped then. But I literally was able 1:36:12.800 --> 1:36:15.000 to pick up the verse from the choreography. So that's 1:36:15.080 --> 1:36:16.040 my apollo story. 1:36:16.160 --> 1:36:19.840 Yeah, okay, boom boom Queen Latifa or MC light. 1:36:23.200 --> 1:36:29.680 Oh man, I gotta say, Queen Latifa, me and me 1:36:29.720 --> 1:36:31.120 and me and down go back, dude. 1:36:31.160 --> 1:36:31.800 This is my mark. 1:36:31.880 --> 1:36:35.280 The forty five King marked. The forty five King was 1:36:35.360 --> 1:36:38.960 my inspiration when I was still in Queen's So we're talking, 1:36:39.680 --> 1:36:42.800 you know, fifteen sixteen, seventeen years old, before I went 1:36:42.840 --> 1:36:45.800 to college before any record deals, before anything, and I 1:36:46.120 --> 1:36:48.240 can tell you that the thing about the record deal too, 1:36:48.320 --> 1:36:50.760 that says another New York to La thing. But Mark 1:36:50.800 --> 1:36:53.719 the forty five King was my was a big inspiration 1:36:53.880 --> 1:36:55.679 to me. And to see what he did with Queen 1:36:55.760 --> 1:36:58.320 Latifa at the at the Jump, and I knew her 1:36:58.400 --> 1:37:00.920 his Dana, you know what I mean. So it's like, yeah, 1:37:01.000 --> 1:37:04.559 empty Light, I met emc Light, I want to say, 1:37:04.840 --> 1:37:07.720 as I was coming up, and to this day she's 1:37:07.760 --> 1:37:13.080 still really good friends with good friends of mine. But 1:37:13.360 --> 1:37:15.519 but in terms of my personal influence, i'd have to 1:37:15.560 --> 1:37:16.720 say Latifa. 1:37:16.360 --> 1:37:20.519 So you knew her personally, I just called a Dana man. 1:37:23.920 --> 1:37:25.600 But but I knew her as that, you know what 1:37:25.600 --> 1:37:26.720 I mean. I knew her as that. 1:37:26.840 --> 1:37:29.080 So it's like whether it be I don't know if 1:37:29.120 --> 1:37:34.000 it was parties or you know, functions events, whatever, but 1:37:34.400 --> 1:37:36.840 we would you know, we ran into each other, you know, 1:37:36.920 --> 1:37:37.360 from back then. 1:37:37.400 --> 1:37:39.679 They just had an incredible show at the Hollywood Bowl 1:37:39.840 --> 1:37:44.960 with the Roots. Okay, yeah, it looked incredible. Lats it 1:37:45.040 --> 1:37:47.679 was I think the Roots Picnic on the road. 1:37:47.880 --> 1:37:49.880 Oh real, Latifa. I believe Light was. 1:37:49.880 --> 1:37:53.679 There, Ammonie was there the far side was there dress 1:37:53.760 --> 1:37:54.519 black sheep, it was. 1:37:54.600 --> 1:37:55.960 It looked incredible just real quick. 1:37:56.000 --> 1:37:59.080 You guys had Cassidy on and when I saw Cassie 1:38:00.040 --> 1:38:01.439 J Cassidy along with Steve Rifkin. 1:38:01.680 --> 1:38:02.839 So when I saw DJ. 1:38:02.720 --> 1:38:05.200 Cassidy's episode, I texted him because he mentioned a record 1:38:05.240 --> 1:38:07.439 store called Rock and Soul and he would have been 1:38:07.479 --> 1:38:10.639 going there mid nineties, I guess something like that early 1:38:11.439 --> 1:38:11.840 in that era. 1:38:12.200 --> 1:38:13.920 Yeah, I went to that record store. 1:38:13.720 --> 1:38:16.840 In nineteen eighty three, nineteen eighty three, nineteen eighty fourth, 1:38:16.880 --> 1:38:18.720 the worst I DJ my own prom in eighty five. 1:38:19.160 --> 1:38:21.719 So I was DJ and getting records from there, buying 1:38:21.760 --> 1:38:23.160 everything on def jam like, oh. 1:38:23.080 --> 1:38:24.519 It's got that, this got, this got the you know, 1:38:24.600 --> 1:38:26.439 the the Burgundy label Boom give it to me. 1:38:27.400 --> 1:38:29.439 And the dude that introduced me to the guys that 1:38:29.520 --> 1:38:32.479 delicious worked at Rock and Soul, guy named er So. 1:38:32.640 --> 1:38:33.960 And it goes that far back. 1:38:34.479 --> 1:38:36.400 And I'm going to school at ninety fourth and Park 1:38:36.760 --> 1:38:39.000 detoured my way to go to thirty six and seventh 1:38:39.200 --> 1:38:40.479 before I got on it, before. 1:38:40.439 --> 1:38:41.120 Before I went home. 1:38:41.280 --> 1:38:44.559 Now I'm good. Why you gonna try? I gotta try 1:38:44.680 --> 1:38:47.840 sometimes there. Now you think I'm getting enough of a content. 1:38:49.800 --> 1:38:52.240 You see something. He said. I know this is indicative 1:38:52.280 --> 1:38:52.639 of an era. 1:38:52.800 --> 1:38:55.920 There was an era of MC's that were DJs before 1:38:55.920 --> 1:38:58.439 there were MC oh, yeah, yes, and yes he did. 1:39:00.280 --> 1:39:01.200 From a certain era. 1:39:01.160 --> 1:39:03.160 Where DJ's first, and I don't know it made a 1:39:03.200 --> 1:39:04.799 certain kind of MC being DJs. 1:39:04.840 --> 1:39:05.640 Well see, And that's the thing. 1:39:05.720 --> 1:39:07.960 That's why I don't get why today everybody's like, oh, 1:39:08.000 --> 1:39:09.400 you hear a beat and you just jump on and 1:39:09.479 --> 1:39:12.479 it's like, no, like I hear the whole record, So 1:39:13.120 --> 1:39:14.960 I'm not gonna hear somebody's beat and be like, oh, 1:39:14.960 --> 1:39:17.600 I got to write something. I gotta get inspired. The 1:39:17.680 --> 1:39:20.960 whole way through while thing was like, here's the beat. 1:39:21.200 --> 1:39:23.160 You need to write a record, call this to this. 1:39:23.960 --> 1:39:25.400 Go none of this. 1:39:25.520 --> 1:39:27.920 I can't rhyme over this, or I can't write to this, 1:39:28.160 --> 1:39:30.120 or I can't get an idea. Can you slow it down? 1:39:30.160 --> 1:39:32.840 Can you change the sample? Can you know that's the beat? 1:39:32.920 --> 1:39:35.479 Go do it four times platinum? You know what I'm saying, 1:39:35.680 --> 1:39:38.000 Like bust to move here here It is the only 1:39:38.040 --> 1:39:39.599 thing I did. I called it make that move when 1:39:39.600 --> 1:39:41.200 I wrote it down, and they changed the bust to 1:39:41.240 --> 1:39:43.720 move ninety minutes. All four verses don't change the word 1:39:43.920 --> 1:39:45.960 double platinum, Grammy, you know what I'm saying. I'm not 1:39:46.000 --> 1:39:48.120 gonna be like, oh I heard this beat, now I'm 1:39:48.120 --> 1:39:49.439 gonna come up with this. No, I gotta hear the 1:39:49.520 --> 1:39:53.280 whole thing. I have to hear the whole record going on. 1:39:53.360 --> 1:39:55.280 Please don't hate me, but I just want to go back. 1:39:55.360 --> 1:39:56.280 You didn't get published on. 1:39:56.280 --> 1:39:58.760 Those records, not on why I thing bust the move 1:39:58.800 --> 1:40:01.640 I published. Okay, yeah, so you can sleep good at night. 1:40:04.520 --> 1:40:06.839 I just I'm killing I'm like, man, if the published 1:40:06.840 --> 1:40:08.120 tem you would have had it intact. 1:40:08.760 --> 1:40:09.479 All those records. 1:40:09.680 --> 1:40:11.720 Even though I'm gonna say this, but I can't go 1:40:11.920 --> 1:40:14.200 deep into NDAs and all that. 1:40:14.479 --> 1:40:17.360 Y'all know where reversion is. Yeah, thirty five. 1:40:19.120 --> 1:40:20.920 Yeah, yeah, so so I only did half, but my 1:40:21.040 --> 1:40:24.719 thirty five year was in May, so it includes those. 1:40:25.040 --> 1:40:30.240 Yeah. Oh, let's make some noise for that. Yeah, so 1:40:30.640 --> 1:40:33.680 legends on here waiting for that thirty fifty Yeah I know, no, no, no, 1:40:33.800 --> 1:40:34.240 trust me to. 1:40:34.640 --> 1:40:37.640 I feel so fortunate that I'm I still have my 1:40:37.720 --> 1:40:39.479 wits about me, that I can still go on stage 1:40:39.520 --> 1:40:41.439 and rocket crowd and experience it. 1:40:41.479 --> 1:40:43.760 That's why that happened. I'm like, oh, I can make 1:40:43.880 --> 1:40:44.320 new music. 1:40:44.400 --> 1:40:46.840 Now, not that I couldn't before, but it's not I 1:40:46.880 --> 1:40:49.559 don't have the pressure of like make the music, got 1:40:49.640 --> 1:40:51.320 to sell this amount, got to make this. You know, 1:40:51.800 --> 1:40:54.720 I can actually plan something, especially in this era where 1:40:55.439 --> 1:40:57.760 it's a wild West out there in terms of records. Yes, 1:40:57.880 --> 1:40:59.760 but I'm definitely you know, I'm gonna keep in touch 1:40:59.800 --> 1:41:00.519 with all. 1:41:00.760 --> 1:41:03.680 Because literally you could literally now give your music to 1:41:03.760 --> 1:41:08.320 your family, like as like a trust funds. 1:41:08.479 --> 1:41:10.360 It is like actually ill, yeah, I mean well. 1:41:10.439 --> 1:41:13.040 And the funny thing is the reversion is different than 1:41:13.120 --> 1:41:16.120 than than than selling catalogs with the real big numbers. 1:41:16.800 --> 1:41:20.320 So in terms of catalog ownership, I still have, you know, 1:41:20.479 --> 1:41:23.439 my portions of my catalog that I but my thought 1:41:23.520 --> 1:41:27.960 in making new music is that that not only increases 1:41:28.000 --> 1:41:30.679 the value of the new music obviously, but increases the value. 1:41:30.439 --> 1:41:31.240 Of the whole catalog. 1:41:32.040 --> 1:41:34.360 My one of my biggest strengths in the music business 1:41:34.600 --> 1:41:37.800 has been licensing, and part of the reason of that 1:41:38.080 --> 1:41:42.280 is that it's just me. I don't sample, but my 1:41:42.479 --> 1:41:44.200 voice is almost like a sample. Like I can get 1:41:44.240 --> 1:41:45.840 the voice, same voice that was on Bust to Move, 1:41:45.880 --> 1:41:47.880 but I don't have to pay six figures for the 1:41:47.960 --> 1:41:50.599 license from the big company, I can get a new record, 1:41:50.720 --> 1:41:52.640 a different record, a record that even sounds more like 1:41:52.720 --> 1:41:54.360 what I want my movie to sound like, and have 1:41:54.520 --> 1:41:55.160 that voice on it. 1:41:55.800 --> 1:41:59.640 All of my albums, really all all all of my subsequent. 1:41:59.280 --> 1:42:01.920 Albums, because even and even Relentless, I've gotten licenses on 1:42:02.160 --> 1:42:04.439 but all of my albums were able to be paid 1:42:04.479 --> 1:42:09.120 for by licenses without any shows. If I never did 1:42:09.160 --> 1:42:11.120 a show, I would have still made money on the 1:42:11.160 --> 1:42:13.760 album just from licenses. And this is this is going 1:42:13.800 --> 1:42:20.120 through like six seven albums outside of Stone Karaman, Brainstorm, 1:42:20.479 --> 1:42:22.640 what's the flavor? Six seven albums that I've made since then, 1:42:22.720 --> 1:42:26.120 since ninety three, everything is paid for itself from getting licenses, 1:42:26.160 --> 1:42:27.880 everything from Honorage on down. 1:42:28.240 --> 1:42:30.479 So were you saying, when they played your music and 1:42:30.600 --> 1:42:32.840 do where's my car? They have to negotiate with you. 1:42:33.160 --> 1:42:35.599 No, that's the point. Okay, if they, if they, if they, 1:42:36.400 --> 1:42:38.080 if they put us to move and do where's my car? 1:42:38.120 --> 1:42:39.719 They negotiating with the label, okay? 1:42:39.920 --> 1:42:40.040 Right? 1:42:40.960 --> 1:42:43.240 And and the even though I have my publishing, the 1:42:43.320 --> 1:42:46.080 administrative administrator of the publishing, so I don't have much 1:42:46.120 --> 1:42:48.000 of a say. I'm more of a say now post reversion, 1:42:48.040 --> 1:42:50.320 I over say. But up to that point, I don't 1:42:50.360 --> 1:42:51.080 have much of a say. 1:42:51.680 --> 1:42:54.280 My thing is those. 1:42:54.439 --> 1:42:57.400 Negotiations because you have so many people at the table, 1:42:59.479 --> 1:43:01.960 those costs a lot of money. But if I can 1:43:02.040 --> 1:43:04.599 give you something newer and it still has my voice 1:43:04.640 --> 1:43:07.439 on it, I can. You know, all you got to 1:43:07.479 --> 1:43:09.360 do is either call me and my representative. Yeah, let's go. 1:43:09.479 --> 1:43:10.720 Let's you know, let's do it. We'll do it for 1:43:10.800 --> 1:43:14.800 this money. That money, maybe maybe just performance rights cool, 1:43:15.120 --> 1:43:16.880 Just get the record out there, just get And I 1:43:16.960 --> 1:43:18.840 was able to do that literally for half a dozen 1:43:18.880 --> 1:43:19.880 albums and make the money do. 1:43:20.080 --> 1:43:22.200 Because he's the part. I don't understand. 1:43:23.640 --> 1:43:26.960 These these record labels that got dissolved and they don't 1:43:26.960 --> 1:43:32.559 exist no more. Right, why brought up? So the next 1:43:32.560 --> 1:43:35.120 person that buys that, Yeah, oh if. 1:43:35.240 --> 1:43:37.360 If your Rose Wars gets repoted, it's not gonna stay 1:43:37.360 --> 1:43:38.559 on the street, damn. 1:43:39.000 --> 1:43:41.840 You see what I'm saying, Like somebody or somebody with 1:43:42.040 --> 1:43:43.840 some money is going to be like either I'm gonna 1:43:43.840 --> 1:43:45.439 fix it up for myself, I'm gonna sell it, or 1:43:45.439 --> 1:43:46.000 it's gonna just be. 1:43:47.960 --> 1:43:48.479 It's gonna be. 1:43:48.479 --> 1:43:50.599 Part of my garage when the cameras go buy even 1:43:50.640 --> 1:43:53.040 though I can't drive it somebody's gonna do something with it. 1:43:53.120 --> 1:43:53.920 Damn. I never looked at it. 1:43:54.160 --> 1:43:57.120 Yeah, I never looked at it, because you know, it's 1:43:57.200 --> 1:44:02.080 crazy with my records. When the labels get sold, what 1:44:02.360 --> 1:44:06.799 happens is one of my most sampled records in the movies. 1:44:08.080 --> 1:44:11.320 For Rell produced them, so for real would negotiate for 1:44:11.400 --> 1:44:12.880 me instead of the labels. 1:44:12.960 --> 1:44:14.800 I didn't even know, Like you just taught me that. 1:44:14.920 --> 1:44:16.280 I didn't. I didn't even know that. 1:44:16.320 --> 1:44:18.599 That's a little a little scary. Well maybe you said 1:44:18.760 --> 1:44:21.760 entourage to they got me too. Oh yeah, but they 1:44:21.840 --> 1:44:22.080 got me. 1:44:22.760 --> 1:44:25.120 But big up to, big up to Mark on that 1:44:25.200 --> 1:44:27.599 because no, he he put in a record called Feel 1:44:27.640 --> 1:44:29.880 the Love, which is a record that I produced, I 1:44:30.040 --> 1:44:32.439 have one hundred percent of and it just literally went 1:44:32.520 --> 1:44:36.400 to my my, my publishing rep. And you know, ye, 1:44:36.439 --> 1:44:36.920 I'll give you this. 1:44:37.200 --> 1:44:41.080 You knew, you knew, would you know? When he was 1:44:41.160 --> 1:44:44.680 Mark Mark? When he heard my play, I was like, oh, 1:44:45.880 --> 1:44:48.639 you know, they ain't negotiate with me at all? 1:44:48.760 --> 1:44:51.800 And in all finished, that's that's happened with me before, Like. 1:44:53.560 --> 1:44:54.320 What was it? Uh? 1:44:55.040 --> 1:44:58.680 Blindside? I have I have connections with a lot of 1:45:01.040 --> 1:45:02.839 pr companies that work with the movie studios. 1:45:03.200 --> 1:45:03.840 So I had a rep. 1:45:03.960 --> 1:45:05.400 They said, oh, you need to come to this blind 1:45:05.479 --> 1:45:08.080 Side preview. I didn't know that the song was in 1:45:08.120 --> 1:45:11.160 the movie. Hasn't really integral scene before they get in 1:45:11.200 --> 1:45:14.200 the car accident of the little little white kid and 1:45:14.320 --> 1:45:16.760 and and the football player going back and forth doing 1:45:16.840 --> 1:45:17.360 my lyrics. 1:45:17.960 --> 1:45:20.400 Just really if you look at it, it's really amazing. 1:45:20.520 --> 1:45:22.519 And they didn't tell you that prior to No. Well, 1:45:22.680 --> 1:45:24.760 it's not that they don't have to negotiate with me. 1:45:25.160 --> 1:45:25.479 They don't. 1:45:25.520 --> 1:45:28.800 They don't have to ask me releast pre reversion. Yeah, 1:45:29.600 --> 1:45:31.840 having said that, you might get a little worried and 1:45:31.920 --> 1:45:33.080 be like, oh, what if they put you in something 1:45:33.160 --> 1:45:35.120 racist whatever whatever they were on the ride with me, 1:45:35.600 --> 1:45:36.760 you know what I mean. So they put it in 1:45:36.840 --> 1:45:40.720 something stupid that's costing them more money too. So I've 1:45:40.880 --> 1:45:43.120 just been cool with that. And now, like I said, 1:45:43.160 --> 1:45:45.160 things are, things are shifting and I and you know, 1:45:45.200 --> 1:45:45.559 I'm good. 1:45:46.520 --> 1:45:50.400 Let's make some noise for that. Thank We're still on 1:45:50.520 --> 1:45:55.360 quick chop of slat no no, because we learned a lot, right, 1:45:55.600 --> 1:45:59.720 Uh you got it? Run DMC or the treacherous three 1:46:01.560 --> 1:46:04.599 Run DMC, Dude, run DMC. I can't even treachers three 1:46:05.360 --> 1:46:07.560 inspired me when I was when I was younger, but 1:46:07.680 --> 1:46:09.679 I couldn't tell you where they were from. I couldn't 1:46:09.720 --> 1:46:12.080 tell you all the you know, I mean coolm ol 1:46:12.120 --> 1:46:19.519 D obviously a friend run DMC just changed so much, 1:46:19.840 --> 1:46:21.639 especially me as an artist that had a big record 1:46:21.680 --> 1:46:24.479 that crossed over and the like. Plus I grew up 1:46:24.520 --> 1:46:27.280 on once again one hundred ninth and two eleventh so 1:46:27.520 --> 1:46:30.040 I could walk a few But jm Aster J got 1:46:30.160 --> 1:46:33.080 his haircut at the barbershop down the street from my 1:46:33.120 --> 1:46:34.519 house Addison to eleventh. 1:46:34.680 --> 1:46:36.760 There was a barbershop. Jamster Jay got his haircut there. 1:46:37.040 --> 1:46:39.320 So that's that's childhood that's influenced. 1:46:40.000 --> 1:46:40.360 I did it. 1:46:40.439 --> 1:46:45.040 I did it a private with DMC last year. Amazing, dude, 1:46:45.200 --> 1:46:47.439 just I mean, just you want to do. 1:46:47.479 --> 1:46:48.280 In a story. 1:46:51.840 --> 1:46:55.920 Mark Mark from Sugar Ray it was one of his 1:46:56.040 --> 1:47:00.840 good friends. So Mark McGrath, sorry, the must be getting 1:47:00.880 --> 1:47:04.920 a contact. Mark McGrath put on a show with me 1:47:05.920 --> 1:47:10.120 Tone Loak. He was playing and then DMC was playing. 1:47:14.640 --> 1:47:17.840 Mark McGrath and d m C did fight for your 1:47:17.880 --> 1:47:21.240 right to party. And when I say, and this is 1:47:21.680 --> 1:47:23.680 maybe maybe two hundred people, I don't even know. It's 1:47:23.680 --> 1:47:27.799 in a restaurant McGee. If you know the movie movie director, 1:47:27.800 --> 1:47:31.280 it is his restaurant in Huntington Beach or something like that. 1:47:32.160 --> 1:47:34.160 But I taped it all and I chose, I'm like, 1:47:34.200 --> 1:47:35.960 I'm not gonna post any of this. This is just 1:47:36.080 --> 1:47:38.800 I literally was standing three three people back from the 1:47:38.840 --> 1:47:40.479 stage taping and saying, I'm just going to be a 1:47:40.560 --> 1:47:45.120 fan of night. So to go from Hollis to seeing 1:47:45.200 --> 1:47:49.760 something like that, it's like, dmc is. You know, he's 1:47:49.800 --> 1:47:50.960 an economy. 1:47:52.360 --> 1:47:58.920 All of us. D excuse me, he's a dream. Cancelone night. 1:47:59.000 --> 1:48:03.679 Oh okay, biz Marky or odb oh, biz Marquis, dude, 1:48:03.680 --> 1:48:04.880 bis a man. 1:48:05.120 --> 1:48:06.680 This is once again you talk about the rest in 1:48:06.720 --> 1:48:10.479 peace Bismarqui. We did it, yes, rest in peace both. 1:48:10.520 --> 1:48:10.960 I'm sorry. 1:48:13.120 --> 1:48:16.799 Biz Marquis did probably one hundred hundred and fifty nineties 1:48:16.880 --> 1:48:21.040 shows with me, so in Biz Marquis, I don't Me 1:48:21.160 --> 1:48:23.960 and m Walk had this discussion. We didn't realize that 1:48:24.040 --> 1:48:27.400 we both were in the New Music Seminar in nineteen 1:48:28.080 --> 1:48:32.919 eighty eight. I think KD has sent him and Delicious 1:48:32.960 --> 1:48:35.719 Vinyl has sent me and I went up I forget 1:48:35.720 --> 1:48:37.080 who I went up against, but I know it was 1:48:37.120 --> 1:48:41.040 better than him, but I still lost. Biz marquis out 1:48:41.080 --> 1:48:43.040 of all and he's an idol of mine. At the time, 1:48:43.080 --> 1:48:44.640 bis Marque came up to me and say, you know 1:48:44.720 --> 1:48:46.920 you won that battle. I'm just letting you know I 1:48:47.080 --> 1:48:50.519 saw that you won that battle. Thank you, Biz, you 1:48:50.560 --> 1:48:52.800 know what I'm saying. And we get to talking and 1:48:53.960 --> 1:48:57.080 watching one of the greatest experiences I had. It did 1:48:57.120 --> 1:49:02.480 a halftime for the Carolina Panthers, myself, Rob based Bismarcky. 1:49:03.760 --> 1:49:06.040 I want to say, Rob went first and I went second, 1:49:06.080 --> 1:49:08.320 and they broke into you got what I need? And 1:49:08.439 --> 1:49:10.720 the loudest response from the crowd, regardless of how much 1:49:10.720 --> 1:49:13.519 bust to Move and the other records we're sold, people 1:49:13.600 --> 1:49:14.720 responding to you got what I need? 1:49:14.760 --> 1:49:16.600 With Bismarkey up there at a halftime. 1:49:16.439 --> 1:49:19.439 It's amazing. So it's rest and peace of both. 1:49:19.600 --> 1:49:26.240 Yes, Sir Trench or red Man Tretch, Tretch for God 1:49:27.280 --> 1:49:29.599 for so many reasons, like once again, like I said, 1:49:29.600 --> 1:49:31.040 you go through highs and lows in the business and 1:49:31.080 --> 1:49:40.640 the like. Tretch has always been kind, supportive, positive with me, 1:49:41.400 --> 1:49:45.040 like he appreciates what I do. You know what I do, 1:49:45.160 --> 1:49:49.400 what I've been through as an artist, Naughty isn't going 1:49:49.439 --> 1:49:52.639 out together anymore, right, so Tretch is going out himself. 1:49:54.320 --> 1:49:57.040 When Trench was was gonna go solo and start doing 1:49:57.120 --> 1:49:59.880 this thing, it almost makes me tear up. He can 1:50:00.280 --> 1:50:04.400 to me and was asking me questions about being a 1:50:04.479 --> 1:50:07.559 solo artist on stage, being the only one without anybody 1:50:07.640 --> 1:50:09.720 passing on and you know whatever, passing back and forth 1:50:09.760 --> 1:50:11.960 and whatever. And we had a legit discussion about that, 1:50:12.439 --> 1:50:14.760 and I'm hoping that I helped him with that. He's 1:50:15.080 --> 1:50:19.200 he's amazing solo now. But Tretch is a dude that 1:50:19.960 --> 1:50:24.240 it's like, whenever I see him, it's good. 1:50:24.920 --> 1:50:27.559 He's a top TIERMC. Oh yeah, no, if you hear. 1:50:27.600 --> 1:50:30.400 Because I'm an Eminem fan, when you hear what Eminem 1:50:30.439 --> 1:50:32.680 says about Tretch that even with my eyes more where 1:50:32.720 --> 1:50:35.160 I go back and listen and say, because Eminem has 1:50:35.240 --> 1:50:38.200 done stuff that has inspired me in terms of what's 1:50:38.280 --> 1:50:42.559 possible lyrically, but he Eminem says a lot about about 1:50:42.600 --> 1:50:43.680 Tretch doing that for him. 1:50:44.200 --> 1:50:46.240 Yeah, I think tretches Overloo because he's in a group, 1:50:46.320 --> 1:50:48.519 but he's an LMC by himself. 1:50:48.760 --> 1:50:50.640 Well that's the thing I mean, and he wrote so 1:50:50.760 --> 1:50:56.519 much of it. Yeah, yeah, definitely Okay kress or Coolgi 1:50:56.640 --> 1:50:57.600 rap O. 1:50:57.720 --> 1:51:05.439 Krs krus I actually did Sli and Robbie the Jamaican duo. 1:51:06.680 --> 1:51:08.840 Jamaica's not tonight. We've been waiting for it. 1:51:08.960 --> 1:51:09.160 I did. 1:51:09.280 --> 1:51:09.559 I just. 1:51:11.920 --> 1:51:20.240 I did, Yeah, Ponder River. 1:51:22.920 --> 1:51:27.320 I did two records which line Robbie called Living a 1:51:27.400 --> 1:51:30.840 Lion under Arrest, to the point where when I went 1:51:30.880 --> 1:51:33.120 overseas and I was doing Bust to Move, people were 1:51:33.160 --> 1:51:37.240 calling for those records in Germany. Both of those records 1:51:37.280 --> 1:51:40.200 were produced by kr S one and and and and 1:51:41.400 --> 1:51:45.320 those songs almost didn't happen because there was there was 1:51:45.439 --> 1:51:47.400 legal stuff with Delicious not wanting me to do it, 1:51:47.640 --> 1:51:50.559 but I was fighting for it. They knew my Jamaican background, 1:51:51.640 --> 1:51:55.160 krs knew my Jamaican background, and I had done nothing 1:51:55.439 --> 1:51:57.600 in terms of outside other than maybe same gang. I 1:51:57.600 --> 1:51:59.479 don't even know what came first, but I just had 1:51:59.520 --> 1:52:04.200 that not done much outside of Delicious and Yeah, Living 1:52:04.240 --> 1:52:07.240 a Line under Arrest Island records produced by Terrists one 1:52:07.280 --> 1:52:07.920 Slam Robbie. 1:52:09.680 --> 1:52:12.679 Yeah, I have to I love this history. 1:52:12.840 --> 1:52:15.519 I'm thankful for this because I never get to discuss 1:52:16.280 --> 1:52:17.600 a lot of this stuff like you have. 1:52:17.760 --> 1:52:19.519 You bring it up and I'm like, oh, yeah, you 1:52:19.640 --> 1:52:22.400 didn't do that, like thirty seven years didn't go for nothing. 1:52:22.200 --> 1:52:24.719 Because you know why these young dudes they put everything 1:52:24.760 --> 1:52:25.400 on Instagram. 1:52:25.600 --> 1:52:30.439 Oh yeah yeah, but that makes you nothing at all. Everything. 1:52:30.920 --> 1:52:32.920 But I said, I always say that, I say, yo, 1:52:33.000 --> 1:52:39.000 I love interviewing people that didn't have Instagram, Like I love. 1:52:38.880 --> 1:52:45.000 That, Okay, DMX a big pun rest and peace of both. 1:52:48.160 --> 1:52:48.559 I didn't. 1:52:48.640 --> 1:52:51.200 I never met either one of them. My man wants 1:52:51.240 --> 1:53:03.760 to drink too, Larry. I will say DMX, and I 1:53:03.840 --> 1:53:07.439 say DMX for this reason. Of every MC that has 1:53:07.479 --> 1:53:11.160 ever picked up a microphone, nobody improves the quantity of 1:53:11.240 --> 1:53:15.599 a beat like DMX DMX. DMX could could run over 1:53:15.680 --> 1:53:21.240 a finger snap and it slaps. That's DMX, never met 1:53:21.320 --> 1:53:23.519 him whatever, you know, all the stuff around. 1:53:24.400 --> 1:53:25.240 That's what I try and do. 1:53:25.320 --> 1:53:27.439 It's so amazing to me how many of my friends 1:53:27.560 --> 1:53:29.200 or people go, oh, I make tracks for it because 1:53:29.240 --> 1:53:31.000 everybody wants to run over my tracks. Is I have 1:53:31.040 --> 1:53:33.600 an ability to at least take your track to a 1:53:33.680 --> 1:53:37.120 certain level. DMX could take any track to the highest 1:53:37.200 --> 1:53:38.920 level from an MC. 1:53:39.360 --> 1:53:43.240 Here in that his style, his approach, the passion he 1:53:43.320 --> 1:53:43.760 brings to the. 1:53:44.080 --> 1:53:47.360 Unparalleled no one else could do it, so it's got 1:53:47.439 --> 1:53:47.720 got to be. 1:53:53.160 --> 1:53:54.800 You. You know, that's probably the only thing. 1:53:55.600 --> 1:53:58.400 He said it just now, like and I know we're 1:53:58.400 --> 1:54:01.120 going to try to get Scott Storch for in a second, 1:54:01.439 --> 1:54:04.960 but but he said it just now. I really literally 1:54:05.479 --> 1:54:07.840 looked at my phone, caught the your max and I 1:54:08.120 --> 1:54:10.640 just forgot you know what I'm saying that. 1:54:11.200 --> 1:54:12.560 You know, you know what you know, it's hard to 1:54:12.640 --> 1:54:14.639 be honest. Do you want to erase? 1:54:16.720 --> 1:54:16.960 And then? 1:54:17.120 --> 1:54:19.600 And then so I'll type let you finish, because the 1:54:19.680 --> 1:54:23.439 fans is going to say, I don't erase my dad 1:54:23.479 --> 1:54:25.960 at homies numbers. I don't know why. I have a 1:54:26.040 --> 1:54:29.360 cousin I don't And it was crazy my bathroot you. 1:54:30.040 --> 1:54:33.680 But you know, it's crazy sometimes if you know, you know, 1:54:33.800 --> 1:54:36.560 your ghost dial or hate somebody by mistake, and then 1:54:36.600 --> 1:54:37.400 they'll start talking. 1:54:37.520 --> 1:54:38.880 You realize that this. 1:54:38.960 --> 1:54:42.400 Person that's that's they took your homies number, that's not 1:54:42.480 --> 1:54:43.480 even who you're talking to. 1:54:43.880 --> 1:54:46.120 So that's it is scary. I have a cousin about 1:54:46.160 --> 1:54:46.680 how we got here. 1:54:46.880 --> 1:54:50.400 I have a cousin named Colin who lives in Baltimore. 1:54:51.080 --> 1:54:55.400 So we touch, you know, touch base text, you know, 1:54:55.800 --> 1:54:58.480 holidays whatever. But I'll type CEO and I'll see Coolio 1:54:58.560 --> 1:55:02.080 come up, and I'm like, you know what I mean, I'm. 1:55:01.960 --> 1:55:04.600 Not gonna take it out. It hurts me to see it. 1:55:04.960 --> 1:55:07.640 But that's my man in my phone. 1:55:07.920 --> 1:55:08.360 You know what I mean? 1:55:08.440 --> 1:55:11.040 But yeah, you ever ever like did what I just said, 1:55:11.120 --> 1:55:15.560 like ghost Texas somebody? Dude? You know, there's a lot 1:55:15.600 --> 1:55:19.960 of in my phone like like like you know, like 1:55:21.280 --> 1:55:21.480 it down. 1:55:21.480 --> 1:55:23.600 That's how I said ghost bad it's plucking out. And 1:55:24.200 --> 1:55:25.880 when I was looking, I look and I'll see somebody 1:55:26.040 --> 1:55:29.160 like usually I know, been dead for ten years. Yeah, 1:55:29.800 --> 1:55:32.000 and the answer because you got to you gotta remember 1:55:32.120 --> 1:55:34.880 that number, like you said, but the Rose voice that number. 1:55:35.160 --> 1:55:38.200 Yeah, someone else policies up and and uses it. Sure 1:55:38.480 --> 1:55:39.120 so that it is. 1:55:39.600 --> 1:55:42.240 Luckily luckily that hasn't Luckily that hasn't happened to me. 1:55:42.840 --> 1:55:45.600 God bless, God bless. You want the next one? Yeah? 1:55:46.120 --> 1:55:49.280 And by the way, what was Charlie's drinking juice? Note 1:55:49.680 --> 1:55:52.760 you're to drink it. He's running through that bottle. I'm 1:55:52.800 --> 1:55:55.720 not I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Man. You can 1:55:55.760 --> 1:55:56.000 try it. 1:55:56.080 --> 1:55:58.400 Man, it's good. Actually, this is a good batch. Actually, 1:56:01.680 --> 1:56:03.040 Marvin Gay or Al Green. 1:56:04.480 --> 1:56:06.880 Wow, y'all could drink. 1:56:07.120 --> 1:56:12.320 Okay, I like that he's loud and joining us. I 1:56:12.680 --> 1:56:12.920 like that. 1:56:15.840 --> 1:56:18.360 Marvin Gay, you know, let's get it on with it 1:56:18.440 --> 1:56:19.200 in terms of the hits. 1:56:19.240 --> 1:56:23.200 But Al Green, with me growing as a producer and 1:56:23.400 --> 1:56:26.600 seeing what some of those records were and what they did, 1:56:27.320 --> 1:56:29.120 I wasn't as big of an Al Green fan when 1:56:29.160 --> 1:56:31.680 he was out, But the more I've learned about music, 1:56:31.720 --> 1:56:33.200 I've become more of an Al Green fan. 1:56:34.440 --> 1:56:36.760 So yeah, I will say both. I love how he 1:56:37.000 --> 1:56:40.960 answers everything so musically correct. I love it, Thank you man. 1:56:42.520 --> 1:56:43.520 He is very accurately. 1:56:43.600 --> 1:56:45.680 I'm fighting for the drink champ guts that don't drink. 1:56:48.920 --> 1:56:50.600 We have to put that out of that. The people 1:56:50.640 --> 1:56:56.080 who don't drink on drink. Money Love or Rock sand Chante. 1:56:57.320 --> 1:56:57.840 Money Love. 1:56:58.720 --> 1:57:01.640 Money Love had a cadence and I think she still 1:57:01.680 --> 1:57:02.480 goes out because I. 1:57:08.840 --> 1:57:14.000 Mean, up until this current crop of female rappers, for decades, 1:57:14.120 --> 1:57:18.680 money Love was the most intricate speed rapper as a female, 1:57:19.560 --> 1:57:21.520 and it was like boom boom, boom boom. They mean 1:57:21.560 --> 1:57:25.560 there's certain you know, there's certain levels to it, and 1:57:25.680 --> 1:57:27.480 I try and prod myself on it that regardless of 1:57:27.560 --> 1:57:29.960 how how fast I rhyme that you can understand me. 1:57:30.400 --> 1:57:33.440 But money love, money love, money lover is right there. 1:57:33.920 --> 1:57:35.680 By the way, since we talked about fast rapper, shout 1:57:35.720 --> 1:57:38.280 out to Twister, Twisted with Twister would be in my 1:57:38.360 --> 1:57:38.720 top five. 1:57:38.760 --> 1:57:42.600 But guns but twist a followed duty. Huh when we 1:57:42.720 --> 1:57:44.800 come to speedwat twist was after you correct. 1:57:44.640 --> 1:57:47.040 But twisted chip food from the fus niggens. 1:57:47.080 --> 1:57:50.520 I won't even lie. Twister does stuff with consonants that 1:57:50.560 --> 1:57:52.800 I've never heard. I mean, there's other guys that come close. 1:57:52.880 --> 1:57:55.880 But the way he hits some of his syllables. 1:57:55.720 --> 1:58:01.400 Console nanse like vowels, the opposite of those. 1:58:02.040 --> 1:58:07.160 Know what that means. It's the opposite of vowel, opposite 1:58:07.200 --> 1:58:07.600 of vowels. 1:58:08.120 --> 1:58:09.360 Ask your protot in Queens, you know. 1:58:15.400 --> 1:58:17.520 But but I will say when I'm when I want 1:58:17.520 --> 1:58:19.880 to see if my my my rap scale is still 1:58:19.920 --> 1:58:20.160 on I. 1:58:20.200 --> 1:58:21.120 Due to pope en verse. 1:58:22.280 --> 1:58:24.560 Oh okay, well, the motherfucker might be brocused and they 1:58:24.560 --> 1:58:25.360 can let the no broken this. 1:58:25.480 --> 1:58:27.040 But I spin Madgate like I'm out for the Pokas 1:58:27.120 --> 1:58:28.320 just to get the hose with the open list of 1:58:28.360 --> 1:58:29.040 the provoking hips. 1:58:29.080 --> 1:58:32.280 And that said, like when I when I do that 1:58:32.400 --> 1:58:34.360 when when when I hear that, that. 1:58:34.520 --> 1:58:38.440 Is such a level of artistry and like not just 1:58:38.600 --> 1:58:40.320 rhyming fast and say I'm rhyming fast, but what he 1:58:40.400 --> 1:58:42.920 does with cadence, it's like, oh man, it's like just 1:58:43.040 --> 1:58:45.800 to grab a little of that. And like, like you said, 1:58:45.840 --> 1:58:47.720 if I wasn't to write to for easy when I'm 1:58:47.800 --> 1:58:50.080 quoting something like that on mine cursing, Now, Young MC 1:58:50.240 --> 1:58:52.200 is not gonna curse in his records, you know. But 1:58:52.360 --> 1:58:55.320 Young MC and Marvin the raft Fann are two different people, 1:58:55.320 --> 1:58:56.000 that's at times. 1:58:56.080 --> 1:58:59.640 But go ahead, Big Ei or Big L, Big Eie, 1:59:00.320 --> 1:59:04.320 Biggie Man, Biggie just and I love Big L, you know, 1:59:04.480 --> 1:59:07.400 but Biggie, it's just you talk about level of influence, 1:59:08.000 --> 1:59:11.120 and especially Biggie was blowing up at a time when 1:59:11.280 --> 1:59:15.720 when other regions were dominating you you would know, being 1:59:16.080 --> 1:59:17.560 being from the East Coast, So there was a time 1:59:17.600 --> 1:59:21.560 when Biggie was representing the East Coast, especially in records 1:59:21.600 --> 1:59:23.000 that crossing. 1:59:23.080 --> 1:59:25.720 I mean, he was, you know, flagwaving for bad Boy 1:59:25.760 --> 1:59:29.640 and all that that. You know, they I gotta respect that. 1:59:29.960 --> 1:59:31.400 That's real, that's real. 1:59:31.880 --> 1:59:32.800 This is a good one right here. 1:59:33.280 --> 1:59:37.080 You ticket there, drink champs, uh favorite Prince or MJ. 1:59:38.080 --> 1:59:39.720 If you've got stories, we want them. 1:59:40.120 --> 1:59:42.880 Okay, before I give the answer, I'll give you the 1:59:42.920 --> 1:59:44.480 stories and I'll i'll say I love that. 1:59:44.680 --> 1:59:45.360 Let's get it to it. 1:59:45.840 --> 1:59:48.160 Okay, I'm gonna pick one. 1:59:48.360 --> 1:59:48.840 So I'm sorry. 1:59:48.880 --> 1:59:50.600 If y'all want to drink now just to drink, y'all can, 1:59:50.680 --> 1:59:51.800 but I'm gonna pick one drink. 1:59:52.000 --> 1:59:53.480 We'll get a regular drink. Jamie. 1:59:57.080 --> 1:59:59.720 Right when Heavy Heavy D had guested on a Michael 1:59:59.760 --> 2:00:04.960 jack track, and around that time, I don't think it 2:00:05.040 --> 2:00:08.440 was the same track, but around that time I had 2:00:08.480 --> 2:00:11.040 gotten you know, I had heard that there was some 2:00:11.200 --> 2:00:13.640 interest in me guesting on a Michael Jackson track, and 2:00:13.760 --> 2:00:16.160 my manager at the time was trying to get money. 2:00:15.960 --> 2:00:18.760 Out of him, out of Michael Jackson, out. 2:00:18.400 --> 2:00:21.480 Of Michael Jackson's camp, because I was getting paid for everything, whatever, whatever, 2:00:21.600 --> 2:00:25.840 and I never was able to get into it where 2:00:25.920 --> 2:00:27.440 I could say, y'all all do it for free, just 2:00:27.520 --> 2:00:29.960 for the look or whatever. That's one of our biggest regrets, 2:00:30.600 --> 2:00:34.680 because I'm not big on guesting, but there's certain things 2:00:34.720 --> 2:00:37.920 that where if you're gonna guess, you just do it. Michael, Yeah, 2:00:38.640 --> 2:00:43.760 so and obviously I mean, thriller off the Wall, just musically, 2:00:44.000 --> 2:00:50.160 just amazing. So you're saying front Michael Jackson just like, well, 2:00:50.200 --> 2:00:52.320 that's part of the reason. I don't know, that's part 2:00:52.320 --> 2:00:53.800 of the reason I reap myself. 2:00:53.920 --> 2:00:56.360 Now they won't be me. 2:00:56.840 --> 2:00:57.360 And that's the thing. 2:00:57.400 --> 2:00:58.680 By the way, you would know it was an artist 2:00:59.000 --> 2:01:00.600 if you said this so nicely. 2:01:00.680 --> 2:01:03.520 But it's like if you if you're manager, Michael. 2:01:04.200 --> 2:01:06.640 If you're manager, somebody in your camp, okay, makes a 2:01:06.720 --> 2:01:09.120 decision you don't agree with. Then it comes back and 2:01:09.160 --> 2:01:10.520 people are pointing at you because you're the. 2:01:10.520 --> 2:01:10.960 Face of it. 2:01:11.080 --> 2:01:12.440 That is a fact, you know what I'm saying. That 2:01:12.600 --> 2:01:13.000 is a fact. 2:01:13.040 --> 2:01:14.680 That's what I wanted to kind of avoid. 2:01:14.920 --> 2:01:17.520 So you're telling me Mike called management. 2:01:17.800 --> 2:01:19.880 I don't know if Mike co management, but there was 2:01:19.920 --> 2:01:20.400 Mike's team. 2:01:21.000 --> 2:01:26.200 Yeah yeah, well, yes, Mike's teams called and what did 2:01:26.280 --> 2:01:26.840 they like? 2:01:26.960 --> 2:01:27.400 I don't know. 2:01:27.520 --> 2:01:29.720 No, No, it all got to me later. Okay, it 2:01:29.800 --> 2:01:31.480 all got to me. I'm out touring, I'm out, you 2:01:31.520 --> 2:01:33.440 know what I mean. Oh got to me later that 2:01:33.560 --> 2:01:35.560 it didn't happen, but it could have happened. 2:01:35.720 --> 2:01:38.040 To be fair to your team, they probably like Michael Jackson. 2:01:38.120 --> 2:01:40.720 There's money here, there's a Michael's not gonna do. 2:01:40.760 --> 2:01:42.640 Something for free for somebody else, right, So let's just 2:01:42.720 --> 2:01:45.840 make a business for any young artist or any artists 2:01:45.840 --> 2:01:50.520 listening right now. Evaluate the artist that's asking, and this 2:01:50.600 --> 2:01:52.680 is for the team the artist, because. 2:01:52.440 --> 2:01:55.160 For you, you would have made that money one hundred 2:01:55.200 --> 2:01:57.800 folds over the shine. The shine is a shine. 2:01:58.000 --> 2:01:59.760 Or if you had the publishing on whatever you did 2:01:59.800 --> 2:02:03.040 on or or performing the record or whatever, you would 2:02:03.080 --> 2:02:03.800 have made that money. 2:02:03.920 --> 2:02:08.280 That's the thing, especially looking back now, there was a 2:02:08.360 --> 2:02:11.920 time when people had longer attention spans where if you 2:02:12.080 --> 2:02:15.360 just did your guest spots, you know, your your get 2:02:15.440 --> 2:02:17.400 your guest verses on records, it would seem like a 2:02:17.480 --> 2:02:20.640 choppy show. Now, if you were to just go do 2:02:20.760 --> 2:02:23.200 your guest verses and they were all known, that'd be 2:02:23.280 --> 2:02:25.440 a that'd be a banging show, especially the younger people. 2:02:26.000 --> 2:02:28.160 So to think that like I could I could pull 2:02:28.200 --> 2:02:30.480 a verse out from Michael Jackson record the same way 2:02:30.480 --> 2:02:31.680 I could pull out my verse from all. 2:02:31.600 --> 2:02:33.200 In the same gang and just throw it up and 2:02:33.200 --> 2:02:35.600 people would know it. Come on, man, come on. 2:02:36.280 --> 2:02:41.840 So that's Michael Jackson Prince playing all the instruments Prince. 2:02:42.040 --> 2:02:44.000 I met him, met him, he. 2:02:44.080 --> 2:02:49.840 Knew who I was. Dude tuned in though both of 2:02:49.880 --> 2:02:52.800 them were. Problem is this ass out prince or this 2:02:52.960 --> 2:02:53.680 regular prince? 2:02:54.400 --> 2:02:56.240 He didn't. He didn't have his ass out when I. 2:02:56.240 --> 2:02:58.520 Saw let's let's continue. That's right. 2:02:59.600 --> 2:03:04.040 I'm in Larrby West b off of I think Santa 2:03:04.080 --> 2:03:07.000 Monica and he's in Larrby West A. So I saw 2:03:07.080 --> 2:03:09.480 him in the studio I see I think it was 2:03:09.600 --> 2:03:13.400 bar one. I see him in I'm not sure. 2:03:13.240 --> 2:03:14.960 If he made it to Roxbury. I was in Roxbury 2:03:15.000 --> 2:03:15.520 four nights. 2:03:15.400 --> 2:03:15.760 A week when. 2:03:16.800 --> 2:03:21.240 But yeah, and it just just inspiration. Actually I did 2:03:21.280 --> 2:03:23.080 see him in roxs Yeah, I did see him in Roxbury. 2:03:23.160 --> 2:03:24.880 Okay, So now when you're say in Roxbury you took 2:03:24.920 --> 2:03:27.760 him about the club that's iconic club. 2:03:28.120 --> 2:03:28.800 Now here's the funny. 2:03:30.520 --> 2:03:31.520 Yeah, I. 2:03:34.400 --> 2:03:35.240 Live, I live. 2:03:35.520 --> 2:03:37.760 I lived less than a mile away. 2:03:37.880 --> 2:03:40.879 Maybe, I mean I was at Santa Monica and Roxbury 2:03:41.000 --> 2:03:43.360 was at sunset. So part of the reason I never 2:03:43.360 --> 2:03:46.120 got in any crazy trouble was that one I would, 2:03:46.280 --> 2:03:47.480 you know, leave early, you. 2:03:47.520 --> 2:03:48.880 Know, because home was close. 2:03:48.920 --> 2:03:50.720 But if someone said, oh we're going to this person's house, 2:03:51.320 --> 2:03:54.240 most times that person's house was further away from Roxbury 2:03:54.320 --> 2:03:56.240 than my house was, so me going to my house 2:03:56.280 --> 2:03:59.400 would be closer than going deep into Beverly Hills and 2:03:59.400 --> 2:04:00.400 getting into whatever trouble. 2:04:00.480 --> 2:04:02.760 So I just went home. But e Lee was a 2:04:02.840 --> 2:04:04.760 good friend. Tia Carrera. 2:04:06.000 --> 2:04:08.640 Absolutely, I would be in Roxbury a lot, and they 2:04:08.640 --> 2:04:11.480 would you know, when when certain public events happened, and 2:04:11.520 --> 2:04:13.120 all lot of just to see the reactions that people 2:04:13.160 --> 2:04:15.880 I'd see in there, I mean Our Sinio would be 2:04:16.040 --> 2:04:17.919 you know, up and there, and they formed a relationship 2:04:17.920 --> 2:04:19.600 with him and be on his show. The All in 2:04:19.680 --> 2:04:22.200 the Same Gang appearance on Our Sinio. That to me 2:04:22.360 --> 2:04:25.600 is an iconic moment, you know what I mean. So yeah, 2:04:25.600 --> 2:04:27.000 I mean just yeah, yeah. 2:04:27.000 --> 2:04:27.360 Back to that. 2:04:27.640 --> 2:04:29.360 All good. I feel like you shouldmash a lot of 2:04:29.400 --> 2:04:33.360 white girls, you know what. Listen what he didn't say 2:04:33.680 --> 2:04:36.080 about like it was time. 2:04:37.440 --> 2:04:38.400 You know you know what. 2:04:39.480 --> 2:04:42.920 I'll say this out of respect, no right, I respect 2:04:43.000 --> 2:04:46.680 my Early on in my career, I had one wild week. Okay, 2:04:46.800 --> 2:04:52.560 I need to hear, well, we're basically in a while 2:04:52.600 --> 2:04:55.320 week was I didn't say no, you know what I'm saying. 2:04:56.080 --> 2:05:01.680 You give yeah, you said you're a lot sing I'm single, 2:05:01.760 --> 2:05:05.320 the records cracking, you know what I mean, for one week, 2:05:07.280 --> 2:05:10.320 six and six and six cities and seven days. And 2:05:10.640 --> 2:05:14.520 I this is pre internet, pre cell phone. I'm at 2:05:14.560 --> 2:05:16.720 the end of it, like this ain't fun. I'm losing 2:05:16.800 --> 2:05:19.960 phone numbers, you know. And I'm like, that's somebody's daughter, 2:05:20.880 --> 2:05:24.640 that's somebody's sister, you know what I'm saying. So so like, 2:05:24.720 --> 2:05:29.600 and I'm having I'm having these starts at twenty two, 2:05:30.480 --> 2:05:31.320 I'm having these stores. 2:05:33.680 --> 2:05:35.960 So so the next next pretty thing that says something 2:05:36.000 --> 2:05:37.200 to me, it's like I've been through this. 2:05:38.040 --> 2:05:42.600 I didn't. I didn't enjoy that week, so I didn't game. 2:05:43.280 --> 2:05:45.400 He was looking in the mirror like I'm doing number. 2:05:48.480 --> 2:05:49.920 So that's that's that's maybe, you know. 2:05:50.000 --> 2:05:52.880 And and the interesting thing is like my wife now 2:05:53.880 --> 2:05:55.840 chantalas the first time I've been married married, the first 2:05:55.840 --> 2:05:58.400 time I don't gett married at you know, fifty fifty six, 2:05:59.320 --> 2:06:03.920 got married. And I said this in my vows because 2:06:03.960 --> 2:06:05.520 I felt this from the first time I met her. 2:06:05.520 --> 2:06:07.080 And that's how I know she's my you know, know 2:06:07.240 --> 2:06:09.080 that she's my wife, meant to be my wife. I 2:06:09.120 --> 2:06:11.320 look at her and I said, your face looks like 2:06:11.480 --> 2:06:12.040 home to me. 2:06:12.960 --> 2:06:15.600 Like I see pretty one, two three. 2:06:19.680 --> 2:06:19.800 Her. 2:06:19.800 --> 2:06:21.240 I tell her, my face looks like home to me. 2:06:21.280 --> 2:06:22.960 And it's interesting. I said that in my vows and 2:06:23.040 --> 2:06:24.240 Montell said, you should have told me. 2:06:24.280 --> 2:06:26.320 That before the winning I could have wrote a song. 2:06:27.520 --> 2:06:31.760 But it's like, it's that kind of emotional attachment that 2:06:32.000 --> 2:06:33.920 you know that I want to have. It's like even 2:06:34.160 --> 2:06:36.600 leaving her and being away from her for a couple 2:06:36.600 --> 2:06:37.880 of days, I got to go to West Virginia to 2:06:37.920 --> 2:06:38.840 do a show out to this, but I. 2:06:38.840 --> 2:06:40.560 Can't wait to get back and be around her. 2:06:41.120 --> 2:06:45.800 So to me, me knowing that I've waited this long 2:06:45.880 --> 2:06:48.400 to be in a relationship like this, I'm not going 2:06:48.480 --> 2:06:50.520 to see something at a show and be like, oh, 2:06:50.520 --> 2:06:52.520 I'm gonna I'm gonna have those feelings for some random 2:06:52.560 --> 2:06:55.440 person I meet, you know what I mean. So that's 2:06:55.520 --> 2:06:57.720 why it's one while week and I learned. I'm part 2:06:57.720 --> 2:07:00.280 of the reason I'm here is because I learned. I 2:07:00.320 --> 2:07:02.200 wouldn't say for my mistakes, but I learned from my. 2:07:02.240 --> 2:07:06.840 Experiences before your mistakes. Thankfully. Yeah, but I learned. 2:07:06.840 --> 2:07:09.440 I learned before a mistake, but before experience has become 2:07:09.480 --> 2:07:10.200 mistakes exactly. 2:07:10.400 --> 2:07:13.960 But I'm gonna keep it be, honey, only one week happens. 2:07:14.240 --> 2:07:17.640 You've been out, You've been out time I've been out, 2:07:18.280 --> 2:07:18.880 I've been out. 2:07:19.000 --> 2:07:19.919 But he would. 2:07:21.480 --> 2:07:27.280 Happened with a record with a big hugs huge. I 2:07:27.440 --> 2:07:29.520 know how trifling your ask. So I do that question, 2:07:35.320 --> 2:07:38.200 but that that that's that's dope, man, because you know 2:07:38.400 --> 2:07:40.040 what I am. I love love. 2:07:40.640 --> 2:07:42.880 So I don't know we're gonna because if he don't 2:07:42.920 --> 2:07:45.680 drink his shot, he will drink it when he comes 2:07:45.760 --> 2:07:46.120 back out. 2:07:46.520 --> 2:07:56.400 Okay. Aretha Franklin or Patti LaBelle m hm. 2:07:59.400 --> 2:08:03.480 Orething dude, Aretha rock Steady, rock Steady is like. 2:08:04.960 --> 2:08:08.440 I put that up as one of the one of 2:08:08.480 --> 2:08:13.840 the best records in terms of the hype, her singing 2:08:14.680 --> 2:08:18.800 the track the chance, you know what I'm saying, Like 2:08:19.160 --> 2:08:23.480 there's the breakbeat in it, just that one record and 2:08:23.560 --> 2:08:25.600 then I mean, you know there's other obviously other big 2:08:25.680 --> 2:08:27.600 things that she's done and the like, but from from 2:08:27.640 --> 2:08:31.040 my hip hop heart Aretha Franklin. 2:08:31.240 --> 2:08:36.840 Okay, I respect that iced tea or ice cube cases 2:08:36.920 --> 2:08:37.600 of the ice. 2:08:38.680 --> 2:08:41.760 Man, both go ahead and drink. 2:08:44.200 --> 2:08:44.680 Me and tea. 2:08:45.240 --> 2:08:46.320 I mean, I haven't seen. 2:08:46.200 --> 2:08:47.200 Tea in ages. 2:08:47.520 --> 2:08:49.720 I like, I like how you call people like you 2:08:49.800 --> 2:08:51.600 got special names to other people. 2:08:51.600 --> 2:08:53.360 But I'm called. 2:08:55.520 --> 2:08:59.080 You know, I just I haven't seen him in a 2:08:59.120 --> 2:08:59.800 long time. But we. 2:09:01.480 --> 2:09:05.600 You gotta take yeah, continue the whole ship. 2:09:10.600 --> 2:09:12.880 I haven't seen him in a long time. Yeah, I 2:09:13.040 --> 2:09:13.880 see in a long time. 2:09:13.960 --> 2:09:18.720 But the influence, the influence that that Colors had, and 2:09:18.840 --> 2:09:20.680 to take that and and and you know that that 2:09:20.880 --> 2:09:25.640 was a massive, massive record on the West Coast, influential, 2:09:26.040 --> 2:09:28.600 eye opening to people that were outside the culture outside 2:09:28.600 --> 2:09:30.680 of l A, didn't know about gang culture. 2:09:31.280 --> 2:09:33.800 There was so much you know that that went with 2:09:33.880 --> 2:09:35.880 that recording that video. 2:09:35.920 --> 2:09:36.440 Yeah, I know, right. 2:09:37.280 --> 2:09:40.280 And then Cube obviously my experience with him in then 2:09:40.320 --> 2:09:42.200 the w A. What he's been able to do as 2:09:42.240 --> 2:09:44.120 a solo artist is Cuba's Icedy. 2:09:44.480 --> 2:09:44.680 Yeah. 2:09:48.040 --> 2:09:52.040 So it's it's almost although they do overlap, it's almost 2:09:52.080 --> 2:09:56.600 like asking me about two different uh sections of my life. 2:09:56.680 --> 2:10:00.240 Because I knew Iced Tea when he would is an 2:10:00.520 --> 2:10:03.880 established solo artist in l A when I was first 2:10:03.960 --> 2:10:06.080 starting out, and I knew Q at the same time 2:10:06.120 --> 2:10:07.280 as a member of n w A. 2:10:07.480 --> 2:10:09.560 To see him grow to that, so that's why I 2:10:09.600 --> 2:10:11.920 say bo he said both. 2:10:14.040 --> 2:10:15.600 He just took homie shot because you want to keep 2:10:15.640 --> 2:10:16.480 drinking that orange ship. 2:10:16.720 --> 2:10:18.560 Ye, I don't know that that orange don't look good 2:10:18.600 --> 2:10:21.200 at all. That's good, It's really good. It's really good. Good. 2:10:21.560 --> 2:10:27.560 All right, cool, go to the next one. Here we go. 2:10:30.240 --> 2:10:32.280 Did you say, hold one on the ball? 2:10:36.680 --> 2:10:37.080 What up? 2:10:37.160 --> 2:10:37.360 Man? 2:10:38.520 --> 2:10:38.680 Yeah? 2:10:38.720 --> 2:10:46.840 It's young right there, Hey, young MC. When's the last 2:10:46.880 --> 2:10:48.960 time I saw it? When? 2:10:49.040 --> 2:10:51.240 When's the last time I saw you? Through the screens? 2:10:51.920 --> 2:10:58.800 Turn the screen? You're still that? 2:10:58.880 --> 2:10:59.240 What's up? 2:11:01.360 --> 2:11:04.040 I'm I'm I'm at drink Champs now I'm doing my episode. 2:11:09.200 --> 2:11:09.760 It's so good. 2:11:09.960 --> 2:11:11.760 I just can't believe how long it's been since I've 2:11:11.760 --> 2:11:13.080 seen you, since I got out of l A. 2:11:13.120 --> 2:11:13.720 It's been ages. 2:11:22.640 --> 2:11:34.920 Wonderful. Man, Thank you man, Well you get you get 2:11:34.960 --> 2:11:36.600 the same for me. Man, I'm so proud of you 2:11:36.680 --> 2:11:38.880 to see what has developed, you know, with with you 2:11:39.040 --> 2:11:40.880 and your career. And like I was just telling them, 2:11:40.920 --> 2:11:44.360 Colors is one of the most influential records still to 2:11:44.480 --> 2:11:47.040 this day, and I think started the path to what 2:11:47.120 --> 2:11:49.280 we did on all in the same game, culminating with 2:11:49.400 --> 2:11:51.360 what happened with Kendrick get the pop up m. 2:11:59.720 --> 2:12:02.480 But but that that's what all of us were trying 2:12:02.520 --> 2:12:04.520 to do. I know, that's what all in the same 2:12:04.600 --> 2:12:05.440 gang was trying to do. 2:12:05.600 --> 2:12:07.760 Was what Ken Kendrick accomplished in terms of having people 2:12:07.800 --> 2:12:10.440 from different places all up on the same stage like that. 2:12:12.160 --> 2:12:14.480 Yeah, why it happened. 2:12:14.520 --> 2:12:17.640 But you know it's kind of like West Coast the 2:12:17.720 --> 2:12:22.520 AMA with the enemy, but he was the opponent, right and. 2:12:23.120 --> 2:12:26.560 When the West Coast feels their attack in any kind 2:12:26.600 --> 2:12:30.200 of way, they join up, they lock in, right and 2:12:30.440 --> 2:12:34.240 U you know, the first the first truth happened behind the. 2:12:34.320 --> 2:12:38.160 Police, right right. That happened when the cops, you know. 2:12:38.200 --> 2:12:40.520 With the with the riots and all that, so we 2:12:40.680 --> 2:12:41.280 true stuff. 2:12:41.520 --> 2:12:45.920 But then you know when Kendrick sounded that alarm, says, 2:12:46.000 --> 2:12:51.320 yeah we not he not liked us uh la joined forces, 2:12:51.400 --> 2:12:55.640 which hopefully, you know, we can make that a real thing, not. 2:12:55.800 --> 2:12:56.440 Just a video. 2:12:56.640 --> 2:12:58.520 You know, I think I think it felt so good 2:12:58.560 --> 2:12:59.920 that I think there's more that's gonna come. 2:13:00.200 --> 2:13:04.280 Yeah yeah, and you know, and then it has It 2:13:04.320 --> 2:13:07.000 doesn't have to be about anybody or an opponent or 2:13:07.000 --> 2:13:09.760 average It just needs to happen. 2:13:09.600 --> 2:13:13.840 For l a period exactly. I'm gonna give you back 2:13:13.840 --> 2:13:15.640 to nor Yeah, yeah, yeah, ye, thank you so much. 2:13:15.760 --> 2:13:20.240 I don't appreciate you man. Thank you so much. Yeah, 2:13:21.560 --> 2:13:22.080 it's loud. 2:13:22.160 --> 2:13:28.600 My brother always I know, yo yo yo, nah, that's 2:13:28.600 --> 2:13:34.680 a legend, you know, you know, skipping around like how 2:13:34.720 --> 2:13:39.600 you said earlier. It was kind of like a moment 2:13:39.680 --> 2:13:42.080 like like like he just said, he was like, you know, 2:13:42.120 --> 2:13:44.480 it's unfortunate because you know, at the end of the day, 2:13:44.560 --> 2:13:45.480 we don't want to see to. 2:13:45.760 --> 2:13:47.200 Do black people beefing, right, we don't. 2:13:47.240 --> 2:13:49.560 We don't want that, right, But now that we've got 2:13:49.680 --> 2:13:53.080 to also look at the good with the bat saw goes. 2:13:53.000 --> 2:13:54.920 Up and there support it without being against. 2:13:56.320 --> 2:14:00.240 But like like I said, it was so crazy that 2:14:00.320 --> 2:14:02.600 when I seen that picture again, I did not know 2:14:02.840 --> 2:14:04.919 that that was rappers. 2:14:04.960 --> 2:14:07.680 I thought it was just people, you mean the group picture, 2:14:07.920 --> 2:14:12.839 the group picture, all the artists, everybody. 2:14:13.040 --> 2:14:14.640 But when I seen that, I was like, that's all 2:14:14.680 --> 2:14:17.280 in the same gang. That's the first thing. 2:14:17.680 --> 2:14:19.960 Maybe my soul is old or maybe I don't care, 2:14:20.320 --> 2:14:22.720 like I was, just like I saw that, and then 2:14:23.240 --> 2:14:24.880 it was like, yo, we got, we got you can 2:14:24.960 --> 2:14:27.120 see and I was like, this is so perfect. 2:14:27.160 --> 2:14:28.120 It's a perfect time. 2:14:28.200 --> 2:14:32.440 And because again you're originally from the East Coast in 2:14:32.480 --> 2:14:34.960 New York, like how we established but you made your 2:14:35.040 --> 2:14:37.040 bones and how you said, you can cut your teeth 2:14:37.240 --> 2:14:37.640 in la. 2:14:38.280 --> 2:14:39.040 So you seeing that. 2:14:39.360 --> 2:14:41.360 I know I asked you something like that earlier, but 2:14:41.520 --> 2:14:44.000 to reiterate it, like when you saw that, what was 2:14:44.040 --> 2:14:44.600 you thinking? 2:14:44.720 --> 2:14:46.960 No, it warmed my heart because that was the whole thing. 2:14:47.120 --> 2:14:50.800 Like I said, like when we recorded all in the 2:14:50.840 --> 2:14:53.240 same gang, there were certain people. You couldn't have all 2:14:53.280 --> 2:14:55.360 the artists in the same studio recorded. You have to 2:14:55.400 --> 2:14:58.520 book appointments. I don't even I don't think I drove myself. 2:14:58.560 --> 2:15:01.480 I think I was picked up, my ship picked up 2:15:01.560 --> 2:15:03.600 taking home. Nobody else there. 2:15:03.880 --> 2:15:05.960 Well, you know what I mean. You not gang affiliating. 2:15:07.400 --> 2:15:09.480 People said that, storry. But people said that about the 2:15:09.600 --> 2:15:12.120 artists that were at the pop up. They said the 2:15:12.160 --> 2:15:15.080 same thing, that a lot of those artists and their entourages, 2:15:15.120 --> 2:15:17.480 those sections could not be together. And this is the 2:15:17.520 --> 2:15:19.320 first time that a lot of these people could be together. 2:15:19.640 --> 2:15:21.840 But you know, I did hear that, But I also 2:15:21.960 --> 2:15:24.600 heard that they actually went to rehearsals together. 2:15:25.360 --> 2:15:28.000 The whole the whole vibe, the way it came together. 2:15:28.040 --> 2:15:29.840 Everybody had to be with it, right, they had to 2:15:29.920 --> 2:15:34.560 be with it. He had to unify, right, crazy, that's crazy. 2:15:35.120 --> 2:15:40.400 Yeah, I put I put their west Coat ship together too, bigger, 2:15:40.880 --> 2:15:43.040 bigger man. I see he was Beijing up to. 2:15:45.280 --> 2:15:54.040 Listen, don't talk, buddy, I mean Boys in the Hood. 2:15:55.960 --> 2:15:57.360 Boys in the Hood I went. I went to college 2:15:57.360 --> 2:16:01.840 with John Singles and John. John was one year younger 2:16:02.520 --> 2:16:05.640 than me. So I I remember walking out of Boys 2:16:05.680 --> 2:16:09.360 in the Hood speechless, not only because it's my friend, 2:16:09.720 --> 2:16:11.800 you know, but just to see the drama of it 2:16:12.400 --> 2:16:17.160 coming up, you know, learning about l a uh. 2:16:17.960 --> 2:16:20.600 Through cinema, no, through through living there. 2:16:20.920 --> 2:16:23.360 It was there. Yeah, I was there, so but seeing 2:16:23.520 --> 2:16:26.480 now being depicted as we're saying, walked and. 2:16:26.520 --> 2:16:28.040 Like I said, yeah, I miss I miss John. 2:16:28.160 --> 2:16:30.000 I you know, going to school with John two just 2:16:30.040 --> 2:16:32.600 to see what what he became as a director, it 2:16:32.680 --> 2:16:33.279 was like amazing. 2:16:33.600 --> 2:16:40.360 So yeah, okay, that was simple. Last Banali's Oh that's 2:16:40.360 --> 2:16:47.400 where we're at. Yep. Loyalty or respect. 2:16:49.800 --> 2:16:51.760 Sorry, y'all don't have to drink, but I'm gonna say loyalty. 2:16:52.480 --> 2:16:55.840 And the reason is there's a lot of people that 2:16:55.959 --> 2:16:58.840 can respect you. But you can respect somebody who don't know. 2:16:59.440 --> 2:17:02.400 You can even respect somebody you don't like. But if 2:17:02.440 --> 2:17:05.200 I know somebody is loyal to me, I'm gonna bust 2:17:05.280 --> 2:17:08.480 my ass to make sure they respect me. Because the 2:17:08.600 --> 2:17:11.760 worst position you could be in is someone being loyal 2:17:11.800 --> 2:17:15.320 to you who doesn't respect you Like that's that's that 2:17:15.600 --> 2:17:20.040 is like to me, that is almost like slavery, like 2:17:20.200 --> 2:17:23.959 for servitude, Like I can't leave, like you know, I'm 2:17:23.959 --> 2:17:26.000 gonna show you my loyalty, but I really don't respect you. 2:17:26.800 --> 2:17:28.720 That's that's a mixture of feelings that I can't even 2:17:28.800 --> 2:17:32.360 relate to. So if someone expresses loyalty to me, my 2:17:32.520 --> 2:17:36.080 actions are gonna dictate that hopefully they'll respect me. But 2:17:36.200 --> 2:17:39.959 if someone respects me, I don't know what it's gonna 2:17:39.959 --> 2:17:41.200 take for them to be loyal to me, and I 2:17:41.320 --> 2:17:44.800 probably don't care. But if I know that loyalty is there, 2:17:45.640 --> 2:17:49.000 that's gonna be you know, nourished and cherished, you know, 2:17:49.120 --> 2:17:49.840 with respect. 2:17:53.640 --> 2:17:59.520 He personally give you all the reason to dress. 2:18:00.080 --> 2:18:12.680 Yeah, I get the boy, all right, Guys, don't break 2:18:12.720 --> 2:18:13.400 the chair, Charles. 2:18:17.879 --> 2:18:18.520 Make sure. 2:18:22.280 --> 2:18:27.440 I know I actually somewhat of this. Yeah no, because 2:18:27.480 --> 2:18:32.560 you know why we didn't because hip hop changed so much. Yeah, 2:18:33.760 --> 2:18:35.920 like I said, like I said it earlier, like I 2:18:36.120 --> 2:18:39.600 sincerely believe that I would have done hip hop if 2:18:39.920 --> 2:18:40.880 I didn't get paid. 2:18:41.480 --> 2:18:42.840 But then it became a. 2:18:42.879 --> 2:18:45.560 Business and people forced me to think like that forced 2:18:45.600 --> 2:18:50.480 me to want to be in big business as opposed 2:18:50.520 --> 2:18:55.600 to being a big artistry, and I didn't care. This 2:18:55.720 --> 2:18:57.520 is a question that we didn't ask you on Quick 2:18:57.560 --> 2:18:59.800 Time with Slim, And this is me and Efn's question. 2:19:00.120 --> 2:19:03.119 We always you know, part ways on, but we agreed 2:19:03.160 --> 2:19:05.879 to a certain extent. But if you had a chance 2:19:05.959 --> 2:19:09.080 to choose, which you would say independent or you go 2:19:09.240 --> 2:19:10.080 with a major label? 2:19:11.720 --> 2:19:15.640 Today, I would go with an independent, Okay, twenty five 2:19:15.760 --> 2:19:17.080 years ago, I'd go with a major. 2:19:17.600 --> 2:19:18.360 Can't explain that. 2:19:19.879 --> 2:19:25.680 Independence only had so much sway and the the big 2:19:25.720 --> 2:19:27.720 advantage of a majors that they had the money and 2:19:27.879 --> 2:19:32.000 the access to pressing plants, the monopoly. So so if 2:19:32.440 --> 2:19:34.920 if you wanted to sell a million records in a month, 2:19:35.320 --> 2:19:37.560 you couldn't really do that as an inded. You'd have 2:19:37.640 --> 2:19:39.480 to front the money to a pressing plant that didn't 2:19:39.520 --> 2:19:41.560 have something else going on that could make that many records, 2:19:41.600 --> 2:19:43.840 get it out to the stores, and you don't have 2:19:47.720 --> 2:19:50.520 a stick to hit those record stores over the head 2:19:50.560 --> 2:19:52.400 with you and universal you put out a record, they 2:19:52.440 --> 2:19:54.000 don't pay you like yo. You want the next M 2:19:54.040 --> 2:19:56.120 and M. You better pay me on this last one. 2:19:56.360 --> 2:19:58.800 You were an independent and you put a record out 2:19:58.800 --> 2:20:00.160 to the record store and they owe you for couple 2:20:00.240 --> 2:20:01.920 hundred thousand records and you don't have another artist. 2:20:01.959 --> 2:20:04.560 You're waiting on them. So that's why I'd want to 2:20:04.600 --> 2:20:05.720 be with a major. Then now with the. 2:20:05.720 --> 2:20:09.320 Streaming whatever, I'd rather be with an independent. But you 2:20:09.440 --> 2:20:13.560 talk about the business. I make the first record, get 2:20:13.600 --> 2:20:18.520 into a lawsuit with Delicious Vinyl, find out about publishing, 2:20:18.560 --> 2:20:22.720 all this other stuff, make a publishing deal outside with 2:20:22.879 --> 2:20:26.400 Almo Irving. Delicious wanted me, but I took less money 2:20:26.480 --> 2:20:29.120 to go outside. I make a record call. That's the 2:20:29.120 --> 2:20:32.320 will of goes. That was for an artist named Johnny C. 2:20:33.240 --> 2:20:33.920 Johnny C was. 2:20:35.480 --> 2:20:37.920 Either a de facto member or affiliated closely with the 2:20:37.959 --> 2:20:40.800 Ghetto Boys. So I fly to Houston. He's the one 2:20:40.840 --> 2:20:44.920 that they thought would would would crossover, you know, wrap 2:20:44.959 --> 2:20:50.320 a lot I believes I met, I met Yeah, and 2:20:50.480 --> 2:20:55.000 Bush Waken Yeah. So that record ends up not happening. 2:20:55.800 --> 2:20:59.160 But I'm I have a six figure publishing deal that 2:20:59.240 --> 2:21:01.640 I have to fulfill. So that's the way it goes. 2:21:01.720 --> 2:21:03.480 All of a sudden becomes my record even though I 2:21:03.520 --> 2:21:07.920 didn't write it for me. So that's a decision that 2:21:08.160 --> 2:21:11.160 was spurred by business, because I wanted to make sure 2:21:11.280 --> 2:21:13.199 the publishing company that backed. 2:21:13.040 --> 2:21:16.400 Me for you know, ten full songs was made whole. 2:21:17.600 --> 2:21:19.520 When when when the biggest song that I was trying 2:21:19.560 --> 2:21:21.840 to do for the publishing deal didn't happen, I'm like, Okay, 2:21:21.840 --> 2:21:22.720 I got I'll put it out. 2:21:23.959 --> 2:21:24.600 It's fine. 2:21:25.320 --> 2:21:28.600 But I know if I had the ability to approach it, 2:21:28.760 --> 2:21:31.320 just as making a record for me, that probably wouldn't 2:21:31.320 --> 2:21:33.199 have been the record. It was a record by necessity 2:21:33.280 --> 2:21:36.080 for business as opposed to being a record for artistry. 2:21:36.320 --> 2:21:38.920 To move Young MC forward. I was just moving the 2:21:38.959 --> 2:21:39.680 business forward. 2:21:40.560 --> 2:21:46.959 So I get it. That was great. That was great. 2:21:47.480 --> 2:21:50.400 I'm so impressed that I'm impressing you, even high and 2:21:50.480 --> 2:21:51.400 drunk impressed. 2:21:52.080 --> 2:21:52.760 That means so much. 2:21:52.959 --> 2:21:56.800 Let me ask you another one, Yes, sir, what is 2:21:57.080 --> 2:22:00.280 your favorite making the record or performing record? 2:22:02.320 --> 2:22:05.920 See we end in the quick Thomas line, I know 2:22:06.000 --> 2:22:11.439 you would. You know what I have to say, both. 2:22:13.520 --> 2:22:21.080 Before he finished the bottle dude, he did before I 2:22:21.120 --> 2:22:23.200 would make the record, saying this sounds good. Let me 2:22:23.240 --> 2:22:26.440 see what it's like on stage. Now I make the 2:22:26.520 --> 2:22:29.840 record excuse me. Now, I make the record knowing what 2:22:30.040 --> 2:22:32.560 the stage is going to be like, this will be 2:22:32.720 --> 2:22:37.160 the part that people call the response that you know 2:22:37.240 --> 2:22:40.640 the bottom end. Literally I was taking I was taking 2:22:40.680 --> 2:22:45.680 my new record to my shows and sound checking it 2:22:46.400 --> 2:22:50.480 and then looking at the monitors that the sunman had 2:22:50.520 --> 2:22:53.720 to see what frequencies needed to be raised or lower, 2:22:53.840 --> 2:22:55.360 putting that in my phone, and then going back and 2:22:55.440 --> 2:22:56.080 doing a session. 2:22:56.680 --> 2:22:58.480 And I would do that two and three times. Tell 2:22:58.520 --> 2:23:00.720 you the song is called loose. This is the cover 2:23:00.879 --> 2:23:03.920 for it. I worked on it for two years, no like, 2:23:04.120 --> 2:23:06.360 no bullshit, and that experience. 2:23:06.400 --> 2:23:10.280 One record, one song, one song and two years. 2:23:10.920 --> 2:23:13.000 But it wasn't like every day whatever whatever. But I'm 2:23:13.000 --> 2:23:14.680 thinking the records done, Oh what if I do this? 2:23:14.840 --> 2:23:16.160 And then the AI component like. 2:23:16.160 --> 2:23:18.080 Oh what if I took the disco theory and I 2:23:18.640 --> 2:23:21.040 made it a character. So all of that stuff was 2:23:21.120 --> 2:23:23.720 over that time, putting all that together. 2:23:23.920 --> 2:23:26.320 But the culmination of that is that I performed that 2:23:26.400 --> 2:23:28.880 record as well or better than anything else that I do. 2:23:29.200 --> 2:23:31.160 And did you have a clear huh? Do I have 2:23:31.240 --> 2:23:35.760 a what? Can we hear this record? Yes? You can? 2:23:35.800 --> 2:23:36.680 You play it on your phone? 2:23:37.080 --> 2:23:38.800 I have a dude, I'm a computer if I mean 2:23:39.040 --> 2:23:40.400 either on I like, he. 2:23:40.440 --> 2:23:46.360 Called you dude all night. I'm what was his name, 2:23:46.440 --> 2:23:49.120 yellow dude? You never nobody ever called you dude. I 2:23:49.280 --> 2:23:55.879 like being due cold nigga. My whole life being cold, 2:23:55.959 --> 2:23:56.560 dude is okay. 2:23:56.640 --> 2:24:00.760 I just want to hear this record, okay, ended master. 2:24:02.560 --> 2:24:05.120 But we can't put into the system like I have 2:24:05.240 --> 2:24:07.280 my computer. I could send somebody there. You got a 2:24:07.320 --> 2:24:11.240 little budget. I don't put it in the system. I 2:24:11.320 --> 2:24:16.520 don't know. I was playing email it to whom the 2:24:16.600 --> 2:24:20.360 first time earlier they were playing, No, he was playing 2:24:20.400 --> 2:24:25.000 from his phone. He was playing from his phone. He got. 2:24:28.000 --> 2:24:28.920 Email it to somebody? 2:24:29.040 --> 2:24:32.560 Right now, what's the what's the copy of paste too? 2:24:32.640 --> 2:24:34.120 What's that? 2:24:34.480 --> 2:24:35.440 If it's if it's. 2:24:37.160 --> 2:24:39.640 A sauce or a garnish. I think it's a good 2:24:39.680 --> 2:24:41.200 thing if you try, and if you're trying to make 2:24:41.640 --> 2:24:44.600 music from screen, you know there's supposedly on on the 2:24:44.640 --> 2:24:48.960 streaming services there there are thousands of records made general 2:24:49.040 --> 2:24:49.600 artists and all that. 2:24:49.720 --> 2:24:50.720 I'm not with that, dude. 2:24:51.080 --> 2:24:53.279 I'm looking at as a tool to enhance. 2:24:53.080 --> 2:24:55.480 What I write, Like auto tunes was a tool that people. 2:24:55.320 --> 2:24:56.800 Use the way I look at it is like this. 2:24:57.760 --> 2:25:01.400 In two thousand and eight, I. 2:25:03.040 --> 2:25:08.000 Finally, after after twenty some odds, you know, twenty eight 2:25:08.080 --> 2:25:11.720 years of rapping, I decided to really look into rhymen 2:25:11.760 --> 2:25:15.440 dictionaries because my thought process was, it's not that the 2:25:15.520 --> 2:25:17.680 words are not in my vocabulary. 2:25:17.879 --> 2:25:19.959 They're just not in my head at the moment I'm 2:25:19.959 --> 2:25:20.840 writing that line. 2:25:21.120 --> 2:25:22.560 But if I was to see someone, I have a 2:25:22.640 --> 2:25:24.800 line of mind and I see a word that rhymes 2:25:24.840 --> 2:25:26.360 with it, that'll spark other lines. 2:25:26.680 --> 2:25:28.160 So I said, let me use that as a tool. 2:25:28.440 --> 2:25:30.480 And I've already written I mean, I've written. 2:25:30.360 --> 2:25:33.160 Multiplanting records in like three different decades at that point. 2:25:33.480 --> 2:25:37.520 So I'm like, okay, let me try and make the 2:25:37.560 --> 2:25:38.880 best of it. Let me, let me, let me, let 2:25:38.920 --> 2:25:40.680 me see what I can do. And I fell in 2:25:40.760 --> 2:25:44.000 love with like the four and eight line couplets in terms. 2:25:43.800 --> 2:25:47.840 Of rhyme and A and then aabb I almost don't 2:25:47.879 --> 2:25:48.480 do that anymore. 2:25:48.520 --> 2:25:50.360 You get to the third line. I want to bring 2:25:50.440 --> 2:25:53.039 back the rhyme again. I have a record called Nocturnal 2:25:54.000 --> 2:25:57.560 made that in O wait has to me the best 2:25:57.720 --> 2:25:59.560 verse that I've ever written in my life. And I 2:25:59.600 --> 2:26:01.600 still for it, at least at my longer shows to 2:26:01.720 --> 2:26:05.240 this day, and it just falls into the same thing of. 2:26:07.480 --> 2:26:08.640 Continuing the rhyme scheme. 2:26:08.680 --> 2:26:13.080 I'm I was doing a nineties show and I'm sound 2:26:13.160 --> 2:26:15.640 checking and I see this dude setting up chairs, young kid, 2:26:16.959 --> 2:26:20.359 maybe twenty, So I start my third verse of Nocturnal. 2:26:20.879 --> 2:26:22.800 I get through four lines. He's bobbing his head. I 2:26:22.840 --> 2:26:24.640 get to the fifth line, continue the rhyme scheme. He 2:26:24.720 --> 2:26:27.320 starts smiling. I get to the ninth line, continue to 2:26:27.400 --> 2:26:30.160 rhyme scheme. He's like almost laughing. I get to the 2:26:30.240 --> 2:26:32.880 thirteenth line. He's looking at me to change it, and 2:26:32.959 --> 2:26:35.280 I don't change it, and he's like, he's dancing now. 2:26:35.840 --> 2:26:37.320 And then I finished the whole verse, and I'm like, 2:26:37.720 --> 2:26:38.480 that's what I want. 2:26:39.000 --> 2:26:41.000 This kid was working. He's like, I was just background 2:26:41.080 --> 2:26:44.000 until I became more than background, you know what I mean. 2:26:44.280 --> 2:26:49.200 So you want me to spit, I'll spit if you want. Yeah, yeah, okay, okay. 2:26:50.080 --> 2:26:52.560 I'm setting the tone for those that were sweating alone. 2:26:52.720 --> 2:26:54.480 You were thinking that your life would just setting the 2:26:54.520 --> 2:26:57.000 stone if it worry about your sins, you better atone, 2:26:57.000 --> 2:26:58.480 because I'd be creeping through the night just like a 2:26:58.520 --> 2:26:59.280 predator drone. 2:26:59.400 --> 2:26:59.959 Let it be known. 2:27:00.200 --> 2:27:02.240 Call your people, get on the phone. Calm your homegirl 2:27:02.320 --> 2:27:03.600 down like you're ready to bone. 2:27:03.720 --> 2:27:05.360 Someone got to lick it up and gave her steady 2:27:05.400 --> 2:27:07.160 patron I can smell it on her body like some 2:27:07.240 --> 2:27:07.879 heavy coloone. 2:27:08.040 --> 2:27:09.600 Let her go home, Put her in the bed on 2:27:09.640 --> 2:27:09.960 her own. 2:27:10.120 --> 2:27:11.760 If she feels sick, let her put her head on 2:27:11.800 --> 2:27:13.720 the throne, because it's better than a stranger trying to 2:27:13.720 --> 2:27:15.480 get her. The moan thought he had a green light. 2:27:15.560 --> 2:27:17.720 That's some redd in the zone. Never be known. Things 2:27:17.760 --> 2:27:19.480 that can never be shown. In the cover of the 2:27:19.600 --> 2:27:21.680 night or the cover was blown. There's a happy ending. 2:27:21.680 --> 2:27:24.360 He had tragedy postponed, but tomorrow night is still unknown. 2:27:24.400 --> 2:27:25.200 It's nocturnal. 2:27:25.440 --> 2:27:31.680 Wo bro, I did that. 2:27:31.959 --> 2:27:34.160 I did that in the show that you Saw Me do. Okay, 2:27:34.200 --> 2:27:35.600 that's one of the records I did in the show 2:27:35.600 --> 2:27:36.360 and show you saw Me do. 2:27:36.560 --> 2:27:36.760 Yeah. 2:27:37.280 --> 2:27:41.760 Let me ask you, yes, sir, have you ever fell 2:27:41.959 --> 2:27:43.119 out of love with hip hop? 2:27:44.440 --> 2:27:44.480 No? 2:27:45.280 --> 2:27:48.400 Never, nothing, because hip hop has not never been one thing, 2:27:48.640 --> 2:27:51.800 like no one could ever change hip hop for me. 2:27:53.320 --> 2:27:54.920 Hip hop is going to be what it's going to be. 2:27:55.040 --> 2:27:58.560 When I was ten and first winning the Jeff Taylor 2:27:58.680 --> 2:28:01.960 aka grad Master Key's basement on two tenth Street and 2:28:02.040 --> 2:28:02.959 Hollis You. 2:28:02.959 --> 2:28:03.320 Know what I mean. 2:28:03.640 --> 2:28:05.959 And I'm rapping over two good times or to bounced 2:28:06.040 --> 2:28:10.000 rock skates, or to walk this ways or two big beats. 2:28:09.800 --> 2:28:12.080 That feeling right? 2:28:12.400 --> 2:28:16.280 Yeah, but you have to be disappointed in what and 2:28:16.360 --> 2:28:19.160 what and what they're asking? What am I going to 2:28:19.200 --> 2:28:23.840 be disappointed in? I mean, when my record was out, 2:28:24.920 --> 2:28:26.520 I didn't want everybody sounding like me. 2:28:27.360 --> 2:28:29.760 So when other people's records are out, why should I 2:28:29.840 --> 2:28:31.920 feel I need to sound like them do exactly what 2:28:32.040 --> 2:28:35.520 they do. I took some of the heat, you know, 2:28:35.680 --> 2:28:37.880 for the time when hip hop was trying to get established. 2:28:38.360 --> 2:28:41.560 By the time I stopped having hit records, hip hop 2:28:41.760 --> 2:28:45.520 was established. So if someone else is out there fucking up, 2:28:45.600 --> 2:28:46.400 it's not on me. 2:28:46.560 --> 2:28:47.160 It's not on me. 2:28:47.680 --> 2:28:50.160 I still got mine, I'm still doing mine, I'm still performing, 2:28:50.200 --> 2:28:52.680 still doing all that. It's like, oh man, I really 2:28:52.720 --> 2:28:55.440 hate what they did to what I love. No, it's 2:28:55.520 --> 2:29:00.720 too much of a dynamic, you know, and to say 2:29:00.800 --> 2:29:02.360 that someone has changed it to the point where I'm 2:29:02.400 --> 2:29:05.840 going to general Yeah, And dude, I could have done 2:29:05.920 --> 2:29:08.720 something else. I have a bachelor's degree. I could have 2:29:08.760 --> 2:29:11.440 gone to grad school I could easily do something else. 2:29:11.440 --> 2:29:13.680 I choose to do this, so nothing is going to 2:29:14.240 --> 2:29:17.520 keep me. Nothing's going to keep me from doing this, dude. 2:29:17.640 --> 2:29:19.760 So regardless of what I see out there, I would 2:29:19.920 --> 2:29:22.560 you know, I wish certain things wouldn't. 2:29:22.160 --> 2:29:23.640 Happen and things wouldn't get. 2:29:23.520 --> 2:29:25.680 You know, I'm here about the scene down here in Miami, 2:29:25.760 --> 2:29:27.080 how violent it gets, and that kind of thing. I 2:29:27.120 --> 2:29:29.280 wish those things wouldn't happen. But in terms of my 2:29:29.400 --> 2:29:31.959 love for hip hop, nah, that's that's something. 2:29:31.840 --> 2:29:34.160 Right, blessing that you could make a living doing this. 2:29:34.440 --> 2:29:37.920 Yeah, I've written musician on my tax return for thirty 2:29:38.080 --> 2:29:38.920 seven years. 2:29:39.240 --> 2:29:41.160 God damn you know what I'm saying. It's like, what 2:29:41.280 --> 2:29:41.880 else would I do? 2:29:42.560 --> 2:29:44.800 Even people say, oh man, you hate having a record 2:29:44.879 --> 2:29:46.840 like Bust and Move. If you say that, there's what 2:29:47.040 --> 2:29:49.199 three hundred and sixty three hundred and seventy million people 2:29:49.240 --> 2:29:53.959 in this country that's around there. If I said two 2:29:54.120 --> 2:29:56.360 hundred to two hundred and fifty million of those people, 2:29:56.440 --> 2:29:57.400 no bust to Move. 2:29:58.600 --> 2:30:00.039 If I would say. 2:30:02.360 --> 2:30:04.720 My call process is regardless of what school I went 2:30:04.800 --> 2:30:06.440 to and all that, what what what else would I 2:30:06.520 --> 2:30:07.760 do to touch that many people? 2:30:08.480 --> 2:30:10.760 One hit wonder or not. I know I'm not on 2:30:10.800 --> 2:30:12.360 one hit wonder, but I'm saying, if that's all you. 2:30:12.440 --> 2:30:16.440 Know me for, you know me cool. Most people are 2:30:16.480 --> 2:30:18.080 just trying to get know That's what I'm saying. 2:30:18.440 --> 2:30:20.760 But let let's let's hit that. Let's hit that first 2:30:20.840 --> 2:30:23.160 verse of Bust to Move, Let's hit it really, let's 2:30:23.200 --> 2:30:23.400 hit it. 2:30:24.360 --> 2:30:26.160 Let's go that's what you want to hear, because I'm 2:30:26.200 --> 2:30:32.160 ryming you want to go? I never do you got me? 2:30:32.240 --> 2:30:32.600 You got me? 2:30:33.600 --> 2:30:36.400 My man taping me? I mean, I don't know if 2:30:36.400 --> 2:30:42.119 you do a camera that's fair enough. 2:30:44.440 --> 2:30:51.480 Really all right, I would tell I'll tell you something 2:30:51.520 --> 2:30:54.040 real quick. Like a lot of times, like some of 2:30:54.080 --> 2:30:55.360 them want to get up on stage and say they 2:30:55.440 --> 2:30:57.520 know the hook and sing the hook invariably. And I've 2:30:57.560 --> 2:30:59.640 had this talk with Master G where you get to 2:30:59.680 --> 2:31:01.400 a certain place in the record and they think they 2:31:01.520 --> 2:31:03.320 know what's coming. Like after the first verse, you don't 2:31:03.320 --> 2:31:03.879 say you want it. 2:31:03.920 --> 2:31:06.840 You got it, it's huh huh. 2:31:06.400 --> 2:31:08.400 But girls will start singing you want it, you got 2:31:08.480 --> 2:31:10.680 it where it doesn't belong. And like in Rapper's Delight, 2:31:11.040 --> 2:31:13.440 when the first time you say hotel, motel, it's not 2:31:13.560 --> 2:31:15.880 holiday inn it's what you're gonna do today. But the 2:31:15.959 --> 2:31:20.200 first time they say hotel, motel, invariably somebody's like halladayen like, no, nigga, 2:31:20.240 --> 2:31:25.560 that's not it. You know, my first, my first hook 2:31:25.600 --> 2:31:28.000 I get to and like somebody say yeah, just to 2:31:28.160 --> 2:31:30.840 drown out the people singing singing you want it, you 2:31:30.959 --> 2:31:33.480 got it because they don't know it, and I need 2:31:33.560 --> 2:31:35.240 to know where I am to kind of you know, 2:31:35.280 --> 2:31:39.120 I mean go forward. So anyway, okay, this here is 2:31:39.160 --> 2:31:41.360 the jam for all the fellas. Try to do what 2:31:41.560 --> 2:31:44.480 those ladies tell us. Get shut down because you're over zepp. 2:31:44.560 --> 2:31:47.920 Let's play hard to get Females get jealous. Okay, somebody 2:31:48.120 --> 2:31:50.400 go to a party. Girls just can't they cloud and 2:31:50.480 --> 2:31:52.920 showing body. She walks by the witch shake us out 2:31:53.240 --> 2:31:54.879 up the standing on the wall like you is pointing 2:31:54.959 --> 2:31:57.920 that shot. Next day's function, high class watch it. Food 2:31:58.040 --> 2:31:59.640 is soup in your stone, cold bultive. 2:32:00.080 --> 2:32:00.600 It comes off. 2:32:00.680 --> 2:32:03.000 People start to dance, but you a so much nearly 2:32:03.040 --> 2:32:03.840 split your pants. 2:32:04.160 --> 2:32:07.360 Girl starts walking God start going sits down seeing you 2:32:07.440 --> 2:32:09.600 and starts talking since you want to dance because she 2:32:09.760 --> 2:32:11.240 likes the group, come on that so. 2:32:11.400 --> 2:32:12.760 And just bunts the move. 2:32:14.920 --> 2:32:24.080 No, no, no, no, don't don't put false information out 2:32:24.120 --> 2:32:25.240 there that don't go there. 2:32:28.080 --> 2:32:30.080 Wait, can we do one more request? Do you know 2:32:30.160 --> 2:32:30.960 your verse off of this? 2:32:31.520 --> 2:32:32.800 We still? Do you know my verse of that? 2:32:32.879 --> 2:32:32.959 Oh? 2:32:33.040 --> 2:32:35.280 Yeah, because you've been you've been, Uh, I've been performed. 2:32:35.520 --> 2:32:37.560 I think this verse is so ill man. 2:32:38.480 --> 2:32:39.920 Okay, can you do it? 2:32:40.240 --> 2:32:40.920 Yes, I can do it. 2:32:41.000 --> 2:32:44.000 We're gonna talk to you. It's written. This was the 2:32:45.040 --> 2:32:52.360 yeah that I didn't that's fire. Yeah, but you just 2:32:52.480 --> 2:32:53.320 let him get his verse. 2:32:53.360 --> 2:32:56.640 No, no, no, no, no, nobody was supposed to remember 2:32:56.640 --> 2:32:59.760 it looking No, I've been performing it. 2:33:00.959 --> 2:33:04.080 No, but it's interesting and above the lad Yeah. Yeah, 2:33:04.120 --> 2:33:06.920 shout out, yeah, shout out to hutch Man. Gotta leave 2:33:07.400 --> 2:33:11.240 ice team. Michele A miche A Oaktown three five to 2:33:11.360 --> 2:33:15.040 seven Hammer Digital, Hey, jj fad Come on man, And 2:33:15.160 --> 2:33:16.000 that's a single version. 2:33:16.000 --> 2:33:16.680 I only got eight. 2:33:17.320 --> 2:33:19.200 I only got eight in the Uh could you do 2:33:19.440 --> 2:33:24.920 in the single version? Yeah, brothers kill another brothers. I 2:33:24.959 --> 2:33:27.400 thought the idea was to love one another, open up 2:33:27.440 --> 2:33:29.720 the paper to one more death. If y'all keep this up, 2:33:29.760 --> 2:33:32.000 then there'd be no one left. I try my best 2:33:32.160 --> 2:33:34.600 to send an example, say in hype lyrics over hip 2:33:34.640 --> 2:33:36.760 hop samples, not just to brag up the boats, but 2:33:36.879 --> 2:33:39.400 to inform because we're living in the carn before the storm. 2:33:39.440 --> 2:33:39.760 You see. 2:33:40.120 --> 2:33:42.240 I believe that the children of the future. But what's 2:33:42.240 --> 2:33:43.800 it all about if in the future they shoot you. 2:33:43.959 --> 2:33:45.880 We're all human beings. If a cut would bleed that. 2:33:45.959 --> 2:33:48.600 I want to see all young people succeed. Do nine 2:33:48.640 --> 2:33:51.120 to five, not five to ten. Just go to work 2:33:51.160 --> 2:33:53.320 and not the state, penn because you live better when 2:33:53.320 --> 2:33:55.400 you're out here free. That's coming straight to you from 2:33:55.440 --> 2:33:55.959 the young MC. 2:33:56.200 --> 2:34:01.800 Come on, I will classic with that. 2:34:02.720 --> 2:34:05.000 I perform it better now than I wrote it. But 2:34:05.280 --> 2:34:08.800 just the cadence to have that on a West Coast 2:34:08.840 --> 2:34:12.680 record in nineteen ninety was not done the way you 2:34:12.760 --> 2:34:15.080 came into It's just like, yeah, they have been walking. 2:34:15.160 --> 2:34:16.119 It was in the white Yeah. 2:34:16.640 --> 2:34:19.119 But you know what's the crazy thing about that message. 2:34:19.320 --> 2:34:22.680 It's like we still have to have that same message now. 2:34:23.640 --> 2:34:23.840 See. 2:34:23.879 --> 2:34:26.720 But that's the thing. The brilliance of my conception is 2:34:26.800 --> 2:34:28.320 knowing that I could give that message. 2:34:28.320 --> 2:34:29.119 I'm not going to talk. 2:34:29.000 --> 2:34:31.640 About sets and places and things I don't know about. 2:34:31.640 --> 2:34:32.400 I'm not going to do that. 2:34:32.560 --> 2:34:36.080 And we didn't even have to have a discussion I'm 2:34:36.160 --> 2:34:39.440 on here. People are listening, They're expecting one thing. Let 2:34:39.520 --> 2:34:42.520 me give them, you know what I'm feeling, and even 2:34:42.560 --> 2:34:44.480 getting on stage that like, there's some places I don't 2:34:44.520 --> 2:34:46.360 do it where the record doesn't resonate as much now, 2:34:46.400 --> 2:34:49.400 but I want to do that verse and it's you know, yeah, man, 2:34:49.640 --> 2:34:50.160 it's good. 2:34:50.360 --> 2:34:53.119 No, But I mean, in general for the black people 2:34:53.200 --> 2:34:56.720 on hip podcast, the fact that that record is still 2:34:56.840 --> 2:34:59.880 relevant because we're still going through that type of can 2:35:00.000 --> 2:35:02.519 additions in the communities. 2:35:03.760 --> 2:35:06.880 What do you think that's destruction as well? Like self 2:35:06.920 --> 2:35:09.560 destruction is same thing. Like these records were actually dope. 2:35:09.840 --> 2:35:13.800 They were dope records with great messages that resonated, and 2:35:14.000 --> 2:35:16.080 now it's like it feels like we can't do those records. 2:35:16.160 --> 2:35:16.920 Well, here's the thing. 2:35:17.000 --> 2:35:18.680 You remember this as both of you probably remember this 2:35:18.720 --> 2:35:20.800 as kids. You know, when some crazy shit would happen 2:35:20.840 --> 2:35:22.920 in the hood or crazy stuff would happen and it 2:35:23.080 --> 2:35:25.760 didn't make the news and nobody talked about it except 2:35:26.000 --> 2:35:27.640 in the neighborhood people that saw it. 2:35:27.720 --> 2:35:28.320 Story to story. 2:35:28.720 --> 2:35:31.480 With the Internet, that doesn't happen any little thing, crazy 2:35:31.520 --> 2:35:35.200 thing that someone does, it's worldwide. So not saying that 2:35:35.240 --> 2:35:37.200 there's less going on now, but what there is going 2:35:37.280 --> 2:35:39.680 on now is amplified so much in a way that 2:35:39.920 --> 2:35:42.560 wasn't before. So there's no sweeping under the rug, there's 2:35:42.600 --> 2:35:45.800 no keeping it on the low. Everything's just blasted out there. 2:35:46.000 --> 2:35:47.680 So you see the need for it, but you're seeing 2:35:47.720 --> 2:35:50.280 the need for it a record like that in the 2:35:50.400 --> 2:35:54.760 context of every little piece of news being amplified like 2:35:54.879 --> 2:35:57.039 it's you know, on the six o'clock. 2:35:56.800 --> 2:36:01.560 News amplified without context as well, Yes, yes, because because 2:36:01.560 --> 2:36:04.280 everybody has short attentions. So who, why, where or now? 2:36:04.360 --> 2:36:05.000 Now what happened? 2:36:05.040 --> 2:36:07.960 Oh? You know, once again, everybody's polarized as to what's 2:36:08.040 --> 2:36:09.360 going on right right? 2:36:10.000 --> 2:36:13.440 So if I go on your iPod right now, I 2:36:13.520 --> 2:36:14.800 don't know, no an iPod, but I hate you? 2:36:15.240 --> 2:36:20.000 But your music select? Yeah you did yourself? Yeah my bad. 2:36:20.840 --> 2:36:23.800 Who is the young MC to you? 2:36:26.360 --> 2:36:26.600 Wow? 2:36:27.080 --> 2:36:29.760 Who is a young MC that reminds you of young MC? 2:36:30.040 --> 2:36:36.800 To you? I don't you know? Yeah, man, I mean 2:36:36.879 --> 2:36:38.840 leading the witness? I mean, who are you back there 2:36:38.879 --> 2:36:44.119 with your baby blue outfit? Well that's the thing I mean. 2:36:47.160 --> 2:36:52.760 I I have love for Jake Cole because the idea 2:36:52.879 --> 2:36:55.040 of and and and even you know, Drake to a 2:36:55.080 --> 2:36:57.119 certain extent, the idea of singing and rapping with two 2:36:57.120 --> 2:36:59.280 different things. In my day, like you couldn't become melodic 2:36:59.360 --> 2:37:02.119 in a song without being considered a different type of artry. 2:37:02.200 --> 2:37:04.120 Eric Simon was one of the earliest people I remember 2:37:04.280 --> 2:37:06.160 trying to do that right and Jake Cole got out 2:37:06.200 --> 2:37:13.400 of that beef immediately and he did the right thing. 2:37:13.640 --> 2:37:17.960 So I listened to a lot of people just to 2:37:18.080 --> 2:37:20.920 see where they're taking the music, you know, I mean, 2:37:21.360 --> 2:37:23.000 like what they're doing, what they're doing with the music. 2:37:23.080 --> 2:37:26.400 So there's not one specific MC that I'm like, oh, 2:37:26.800 --> 2:37:28.840 waving a flight. Drake's done a lot. Drake has done 2:37:28.840 --> 2:37:32.160 a lot in terms of establishing fan base, in terms 2:37:32.200 --> 2:37:34.000 of the different types of records he makes. 2:37:34.600 --> 2:37:37.879 And Kendrick is a lyricist, you know, he's a lot 2:37:37.959 --> 2:37:38.560 for lyricism. 2:37:38.680 --> 2:37:39.520 Now, well, here's the thing. 2:37:39.600 --> 2:37:42.760 Now, I'm coming from a time when lyricism and West 2:37:42.800 --> 2:37:45.480 Coast were never set in the same sentence. So if 2:37:45.560 --> 2:37:48.000 you are going to somebody who lives on the East Coast, 2:37:48.080 --> 2:37:52.760 now they could literally say Kendrick Lamar is the best lyricist. 2:37:53.200 --> 2:37:56.680 I never thought I would ever hear anyone outside of 2:37:56.760 --> 2:37:58.480 the West Coast saying that a West Coast artist was 2:37:58.560 --> 2:38:00.920 the best lyricist or represented lyricism in a way that 2:38:01.000 --> 2:38:04.280 Kendrick is. Now, So like all of those things, all 2:38:04.360 --> 2:38:06.840 of those artists, I look and I can, I can 2:38:06.879 --> 2:38:09.800 appreciate different elements of you know, what they do battles. 2:38:09.879 --> 2:38:14.879 Notwithstanding Kendrick being known as the consummate lyricists and being 2:38:14.920 --> 2:38:17.640 from the West Coast, shows an evolution of hip hop 2:38:17.720 --> 2:38:19.440 that I did not think I would see in my lifetime. 2:38:19.680 --> 2:38:20.400 Just did not think. 2:38:21.360 --> 2:38:24.520 Yeah, because the perception of the coast, of the perception, 2:38:24.680 --> 2:38:27.400 the perception of the Cube, I think was respected as 2:38:27.400 --> 2:38:27.760 the lyrics. 2:38:27.840 --> 2:38:31.960 No, Cube was respected as a lyricist. But the thing 2:38:32.200 --> 2:38:38.440 was is that Cube was such a figure with n 2:38:38.560 --> 2:38:39.880 w A with what he said. 2:38:40.400 --> 2:38:44.200 It's just different now in terms of you know, a 2:38:44.360 --> 2:38:49.320 backpacker will look at at Kendrick and Kendrick's lyrics, and 2:38:49.360 --> 2:38:52.879 Kendrick's lyrics are pro lyrical like Kendrick happens because he's 2:38:52.920 --> 2:38:56.160 influenced by so many things and people. You know, So 2:38:56.280 --> 2:38:57.840 someone like Kendrick on the West Coast on. 2:38:57.840 --> 2:39:02.760 A different stage, a different stage. Yeah, So so no, 2:39:03.560 --> 2:39:05.480 all respected c all respected Cube. 2:39:05.800 --> 2:39:10.279 I'm looking at it that this was a lyrical exercise, 2:39:10.920 --> 2:39:14.440 and and you know, all kinds of subject matters all 2:39:14.480 --> 2:39:14.959 over the place. 2:39:15.000 --> 2:39:16.640 And and Kendrick is regarded as the. 2:39:16.720 --> 2:39:19.920 Lyricist because because I think LA did have a hub 2:39:20.000 --> 2:39:20.640 for lyricism. 2:39:20.720 --> 2:39:27.320 You had like the exhibits, the alcoholics. Yeah, game is 2:39:27.320 --> 2:39:32.520 a lyricist, the loonies like no, no, even quick. 2:39:32.560 --> 2:39:35.880 But I'm saying in terms of but you, if you 2:39:36.000 --> 2:39:39.480 went out of the West Coast sphere, influence a lot 2:39:39.520 --> 2:39:41.320 of those names exactly. 2:39:41.760 --> 2:39:42.640 Now it translates. 2:39:43.280 --> 2:39:45.320 Now it translates, there's somebody in Brooklyn, there's somebody in 2:39:45.360 --> 2:39:47.000 the Bronx that will say Kendrick living no more the 2:39:47.040 --> 2:39:48.039 best lyricists that. 2:39:48.440 --> 2:39:51.400 Nobody on the West Coast is ever considered potentially the 2:39:51.640 --> 2:39:57.200 king hip hop, right, the top tier, right, But now 2:39:57.320 --> 2:39:57.879 it does. 2:39:59.280 --> 2:40:00.400 Lyricists lyrics. 2:40:00.600 --> 2:40:03.440 I mean that Carcert, when I seen that Kindred concert, 2:40:03.560 --> 2:40:07.320 it did seem like that he was being crowned the king. 2:40:07.560 --> 2:40:09.320 Like you have like the jay Z's, the Nods, the 2:40:09.360 --> 2:40:11.040 biggest liked. 2:40:11.959 --> 2:40:15.160 Even though it was a West Coast or collaboration and 2:40:15.200 --> 2:40:17.440 all that, But it didn't that night when I watched 2:40:17.480 --> 2:40:20.440 that Carcert, it seemed like he was being crowned king 2:40:20.640 --> 2:40:21.400 of hip hop. 2:40:21.520 --> 2:40:23.039 That's what I think, That's what I think people need 2:40:23.080 --> 2:40:25.840 to understand. Like it's a it's a it's a pro 2:40:26.040 --> 2:40:28.280 for hip hop, it's a positive for hip hop. You 2:40:28.360 --> 2:40:30.160 could love what's happening there and not have to be 2:40:30.240 --> 2:40:30.880 against Drake. 2:40:31.240 --> 2:40:34.080 You don't have to be a Drake. 2:40:35.320 --> 2:40:38.800 Drake has done things that Drake has done things that 2:40:38.879 --> 2:40:41.199 no one has done in hip hop, and he's he's 2:40:41.360 --> 2:40:45.000 been able to he's been able to open open things 2:40:45.080 --> 2:40:45.720 up to a new. 2:40:45.680 --> 2:40:47.720 Audience and just his approach and come nationally. 2:40:48.360 --> 2:40:50.160 And there's been so many rappers that have come from 2:40:50.200 --> 2:40:52.480 mixtapes that weren't able to translate it into albums and 2:40:52.560 --> 2:40:52.920 he has. 2:40:53.440 --> 2:40:56.160 Right, Yeah, there's usually guys that he comes from the mixtape. 2:40:56.480 --> 2:40:59.840 There's there's dudes that that there's dudes that did mixtapes 2:41:00.080 --> 2:41:02.800 okay at it and become amazing artists. And the dudes 2:41:02.840 --> 2:41:05.480 that were amazing on mixtapes and you don't hear much 2:41:05.520 --> 2:41:07.320 about it, or the first album comes out and it's not, 2:41:07.959 --> 2:41:10.760 you know, cohesive enough for people to really digest it 2:41:10.800 --> 2:41:13.920 as an album. He seamlessly went into that that that's 2:41:13.959 --> 2:41:14.600 impressive to me. 2:41:15.200 --> 2:41:19.400 And what's dope is like you know, uh, you know, 2:41:19.760 --> 2:41:21.640 you know the world is probably trying to say that 2:41:21.840 --> 2:41:24.320 like that was a loss for him, But. 2:41:25.800 --> 2:41:26.680 The fact is, if he. 2:41:26.720 --> 2:41:30.920 Doesn't seem damaged, he'll be Okay, this, this, this, he's 2:41:30.959 --> 2:41:31.880 not He's not going away. 2:41:32.040 --> 2:41:34.320 I look at it because it's like how I said 2:41:34.360 --> 2:41:37.160 that that I get different inspirations from different artists. 2:41:37.560 --> 2:41:39.920 I see it as a different lane for him. 2:41:40.160 --> 2:41:42.039 Yeah, I just see it as a different lane. 2:41:42.040 --> 2:41:45.119 There's there's places that he goes and audiences he plays 2:41:45.160 --> 2:41:47.720 in front of that other people don't so you know, 2:41:48.680 --> 2:41:50.760 and and and same for Kendrick Sant for Jake Hole, 2:41:50.920 --> 2:41:54.360 Like they have their their their niches. So I don't 2:41:54.440 --> 2:41:57.480 necessarily see it. I see it really. 2:41:57.560 --> 2:41:57.959 What I see. 2:41:58.000 --> 2:42:00.000 The upshot of it is is that the record company 2:42:00.280 --> 2:42:03.240 are getting scared because you had guys making records in 2:42:03.320 --> 2:42:03.920 a week. 2:42:04.680 --> 2:42:07.320 Putting it up there it's the same record label, no no, no, 2:42:07.440 --> 2:42:09.400 no no. But but my thing is this that the 2:42:09.440 --> 2:42:10.959 scope on Universe was the same people. 2:42:11.040 --> 2:42:11.800 But here's the point. 2:42:12.760 --> 2:42:14.880 These records were conceived of in a week, put up, 2:42:14.920 --> 2:42:17.600 and then they take down the top artists that you've 2:42:17.600 --> 2:42:18.840 been planning with all. 2:42:18.800 --> 2:42:23.039 Your stop putting it without that record, because. 2:42:24.560 --> 2:42:28.199 So regardless of what label, all right there in one lane, 2:42:28.320 --> 2:42:30.720 but one artist or two artists can get into a 2:42:30.840 --> 2:42:32.959 beef and be putting out records to the point where 2:42:33.000 --> 2:42:34.039 major labels are like your. 2:42:34.240 --> 2:42:36.680 Pop artists to show up as well. 2:42:36.840 --> 2:42:39.040 Two hip hop artists can get into a beef be 2:42:39.080 --> 2:42:41.000 putting out records to the where the major label says 2:42:41.040 --> 2:42:42.720 you rock, act, you popack, You're gonna have to. 2:42:42.760 --> 2:42:46.160 Wait until he's dues. Feud is old true because everything 2:42:46.240 --> 2:42:48.680 we do with all other problems, can't fuck with this 2:42:48.879 --> 2:42:53.360 right now. That's crazy, dude. That's to me, that's the 2:42:54.800 --> 2:42:55.440 shot of all of it. 2:42:55.520 --> 2:42:58.200 It's like, I'm it's like it's it's literally like a 2:42:58.280 --> 2:42:59.560 speedboat stopping a tanker. 2:43:00.200 --> 2:43:02.359 It's like, oh no, we got to let the speedboat 2:43:02.400 --> 2:43:02.640 go by. 2:43:02.720 --> 2:43:04.640 We got to let these two speedboats race it out, 2:43:04.959 --> 2:43:05.400 and we're. 2:43:05.240 --> 2:43:07.920 Going to stop this ocean line until they're done because 2:43:07.920 --> 2:43:10.240 they have the water right now, we don't have the water. 2:43:11.080 --> 2:43:13.080 That dude, that's the way you need to look at it. 2:43:13.240 --> 2:43:17.640 So Drake and Kendrick, I like to personally thank y'all. 2:43:17.760 --> 2:43:23.199 I have been fully entertained, and even I liked J Coles. 2:43:23.560 --> 2:43:25.680 I ain't like they just left so fast. 2:43:25.920 --> 2:43:29.160 But to me, no, And I'll defend you. I've never 2:43:29.240 --> 2:43:31.160 met him, but I'll defend him. That was a mature 2:43:31.200 --> 2:43:32.040 move on his part of that. 2:43:32.480 --> 2:43:35.880 That's how you feel, That's how you feel what he did. 2:43:36.000 --> 2:43:36.160 Man. 2:43:36.680 --> 2:43:38.720 You know, I saw that. 2:43:41.280 --> 2:43:41.760 I saw. 2:43:44.080 --> 2:43:46.480 I saw an interview with DJ Head, who was the 2:43:46.560 --> 2:43:50.400 DJ that never never met him, but he was a 2:43:50.480 --> 2:43:51.760 big boy who I met nothing. You know. 2:43:51.840 --> 2:43:53.199 So I'm watching an interview. 2:43:53.000 --> 2:43:55.360 And he said that he's only listening to meet the 2:43:55.440 --> 2:43:58.520 Grahams only four or five times because it affected you know, 2:43:58.879 --> 2:44:02.800 it affected his spirit listening to it. I respect him. 2:44:02.840 --> 2:44:10.360 He's in Kendrick Lamar's crew, you mean, he's he's in 2:44:10.480 --> 2:44:13.160 that circle, and he felt the comfort to be able 2:44:13.200 --> 2:44:14.760 to you know, to say that, to say that that's 2:44:14.920 --> 2:44:18.360 what you know, what's what's in his heart. To me, 2:44:18.600 --> 2:44:21.360 that's shows such a growth that everybody doesn't have to 2:44:21.440 --> 2:44:24.320 be like, you know, like okay, you know whatever happens 2:44:24.360 --> 2:44:25.400 with blindly following that. 2:44:25.520 --> 2:44:27.039 That's show such a level of maturity. 2:44:27.560 --> 2:44:31.040 Yeah, like once again, my day wouldn't see that you 2:44:31.160 --> 2:44:33.280 with me or you against me. You can't say anything 2:44:33.320 --> 2:44:36.040 that you can't. Then It's like there's so much of 2:44:36.160 --> 2:44:38.360 that that made me feel so good that I was 2:44:38.440 --> 2:44:40.680 even involved back in the day. 2:44:41.400 --> 2:44:44.120 If if back then you would have had Twitter, you 2:44:44.200 --> 2:44:46.320 think you would have been out here in d ms. 2:44:47.560 --> 2:44:49.879 Out here in d you know what what does that mean? 2:44:50.360 --> 2:44:52.200 You know what it means. I know what it means. 2:44:52.920 --> 2:44:54.640 I may have been even if I didn't want to be, 2:44:54.920 --> 2:44:57.120 even if I didn't type the d MS. You know, 2:44:57.240 --> 2:44:59.080 somebody would type something to me and then then then 2:44:59.320 --> 2:45:01.880 post that, you know what I mean. So there's a 2:45:02.040 --> 2:45:03.680 there's a lot of us that are thankful that social 2:45:03.720 --> 2:45:05.640 media wasn't you know, it wasn't what it was. It's 2:45:05.920 --> 2:45:07.520 some of the stories that I know, you know what 2:45:07.520 --> 2:45:11.280 I'm saying, and something just oh yeah, absolutely, because y'all 2:45:11.400 --> 2:45:12.400 was a living wild back then. 2:45:12.640 --> 2:45:19.640 Oh yeah, yeah yeah one week. No, it's true, you 2:45:19.800 --> 2:45:22.400 had one year and it looked like one week. Dude, 2:45:22.440 --> 2:45:24.000 it was it was one weement. I had enough. 2:45:24.200 --> 2:45:24.680 I had enough. 2:45:26.240 --> 2:45:26.840 It was crazy. 2:45:27.240 --> 2:45:29.080 But but but but but but yeah. 2:45:29.120 --> 2:45:30.240 But that's the thing, dude, it's like. 2:45:31.800 --> 2:45:32.280 I learned. 2:45:32.360 --> 2:45:35.160 I learned from my experiences. That's that's why I'm still here. 2:45:35.400 --> 2:45:37.560 That's why I'm you know. That's why I'm still good. 2:45:37.720 --> 2:45:42.280 What's your favorite part of the culture, Like, if you 2:45:42.320 --> 2:45:44.959 could praise one thing about the culture, it's this dude. 2:45:45.240 --> 2:45:47.080 You know, it's it's funny because I'm here with you whatever. 2:45:47.120 --> 2:45:50.000 It's the camaraderie. You and I don't know each other 2:45:50.120 --> 2:45:51.760 very well. We've only met each other, you know, a 2:45:51.760 --> 2:45:52.280 couple of times. 2:45:52.320 --> 2:45:55.600 But like we could hang, we could have discussions. 2:45:55.640 --> 2:45:57.600 We could you know, we could look we love hip hop. 2:45:57.959 --> 2:45:59.600 I love hip hop. So it's like it's like us 2:45:59.640 --> 2:46:01.080 playing a sport. 2:46:01.160 --> 2:46:02.840 This part of my family, I'm a part of yours. 2:46:03.280 --> 2:46:05.520 It's like us playing the same sport in two different leagues. 2:46:05.879 --> 2:46:06.320 You know what I mean. 2:46:06.400 --> 2:46:07.959 We haven't played each other, you know what I'm saying. 2:46:08.320 --> 2:46:11.359 So that that kind of camaraderie. When I hit athletes 2:46:11.400 --> 2:46:13.320 that retire and say that that's what they meant. That's 2:46:13.360 --> 2:46:15.240 why I like all them questions you asked if you 2:46:15.320 --> 2:46:17.240 had anybody that was on the nineties tour, I'm gonna 2:46:17.240 --> 2:46:18.000 pick them because. 2:46:17.840 --> 2:46:18.480 They're like family. 2:46:19.840 --> 2:46:22.720 You know, a couple of hundred shows in the middle 2:46:22.760 --> 2:46:26.200 of nowhere, all the jokes sitting around there was there 2:46:26.280 --> 2:46:29.039 was one Since COVID it's been very difficult to find 2:46:29.080 --> 2:46:31.920 people to clean hotel rooms. So invariably we'll be sitting 2:46:32.680 --> 2:46:35.240 a bunch of us for hours in hotel lobbies, in 2:46:35.320 --> 2:46:36.240 the smallest places. 2:46:36.800 --> 2:46:40.480 So me tone Montel Jordan sitting. 2:46:40.240 --> 2:46:43.080 In the lobby talking at least a couple of hours, 2:46:43.120 --> 2:46:48.000 stories coming do it man, Just fun, just just just 2:46:48.200 --> 2:46:48.600 just fun. 2:46:49.360 --> 2:46:50.640 Yes, we caught. 2:46:58.280 --> 2:47:02.040 Yeah, I see. I kept talking like I yeah, but 2:47:02.160 --> 2:47:03.920 you know what, you are very correct man. 2:47:04.040 --> 2:47:06.800 You know, like I said I was saying earlier, like 2:47:06.920 --> 2:47:09.240 how going on the road with somebody like you get 2:47:09.280 --> 2:47:11.800 to learn that people, You get to understand that certain 2:47:11.800 --> 2:47:14.160 people feastink and you be like, damn man, you know, 2:47:14.240 --> 2:47:16.320 I don't want to be around him and this hotelbum. 2:47:16.640 --> 2:47:21.960 But I realized that I would do this show in 2:47:22.240 --> 2:47:25.320 ninety seven and it was called a Hot Night Jamaica, right, 2:47:25.840 --> 2:47:27.920 and we would go there and everybody who I went 2:47:28.040 --> 2:47:30.320 there with always formed the relationship with. 2:47:30.520 --> 2:47:32.960 Like, and it's because of what you just said. 2:47:33.000 --> 2:47:36.400 It's just like, you know, we we we're a fraternity 2:47:36.480 --> 2:47:38.360 without calling ourselves on a fraternity, what is it? 2:47:38.520 --> 2:47:39.080 That's what it is. 2:47:39.920 --> 2:47:41.920 I've not seen mix a lot. I had not seen 2:47:42.000 --> 2:47:44.000 mix a lot in a couple of years and we 2:47:44.240 --> 2:47:46.680 just had a show. I want to say it was 2:47:47.080 --> 2:47:49.480 Was it outside of Sir mix a lot? Yeah, Sir 2:47:49.560 --> 2:47:52.560 mix a lot. Oh Man, I want to say, no, 2:47:52.640 --> 2:47:58.400 it wasn't Memphis, outside of Tulsa, ok Mogi Oklahoma. I 2:47:58.480 --> 2:48:05.840 want to say me Tone Lo, Rob Bass, Tretch from 2:48:05.879 --> 2:48:13.520 Naughty by Nature, Sir mix a lot, and and I 2:48:13.600 --> 2:48:15.800 think and I think one, I think one other act. 2:48:16.640 --> 2:48:18.680 But we have not seen each other in a long time. 2:48:18.760 --> 2:48:21.200 And to get the picture and to sit and talk 2:48:21.280 --> 2:48:23.720 and whatever, it's like we never you know, we've never 2:48:23.760 --> 2:48:25.680 spent any time apart. I hadn't seen Tretch in a 2:48:25.720 --> 2:48:27.879 hot minute. He's supposed to come my wedding. He couldn't come, 2:48:28.160 --> 2:48:31.720 you know what I'm saying. It was just that feeling 2:48:32.240 --> 2:48:34.200 and being known to be a you know, to be 2:48:34.280 --> 2:48:36.120 a part of it, especially when guys can go out 2:48:36.120 --> 2:48:38.160 and see other guys sets like that new song. I 2:48:38.200 --> 2:48:40.120 can't wait to do that new song in front of Tratch. 2:48:40.360 --> 2:48:42.160 I think, I think, I think he's going to be 2:48:42.200 --> 2:48:43.880 with me tomorrow West Virginia. But I know over the 2:48:43.959 --> 2:48:48.200 next over the next two weeks to three weeks, I'm 2:48:48.200 --> 2:48:49.480 gonna do a show with him while I'll do that 2:48:49.560 --> 2:48:51.640 in front of him and just to get his reaction 2:48:51.800 --> 2:48:53.640 to it, and and you know, talk to him about 2:48:53.640 --> 2:48:54.720 what I'm doing and that kind of thing. 2:48:55.080 --> 2:48:56.720 It's great. You see them more than you see your 2:48:56.840 --> 2:48:57.240 your friends. 2:48:57.280 --> 2:48:58.440 You see them more than you see a lot of 2:48:58.480 --> 2:49:02.400 your family and and but there's a mutual respect. So 2:49:02.560 --> 2:49:04.600 that's why I'm still going at it, you know, at 2:49:04.640 --> 2:49:05.080 this age. 2:49:05.320 --> 2:49:06.119 God damn it. Man. 2:49:06.240 --> 2:49:07.920 I just want to thank you man for everything you 2:49:08.040 --> 2:49:10.200 do for hip hop. Man, Thank you man for being 2:49:10.280 --> 2:49:11.440 here on drink Champs. 2:49:11.480 --> 2:49:14.560 Man. I want to shout out. I got a shout 2:49:14.600 --> 2:49:16.520 out one person, absolutely continue my. 2:49:17.280 --> 2:49:20.800 Best friend, best man at my wedding, Antonio Knox, young 2:49:20.920 --> 2:49:23.959 rapper that I did a meta mass came out of Baltimore. 2:49:24.520 --> 2:49:27.480 But he has been such an inspiration to me and 2:49:27.720 --> 2:49:30.000 just kind of keeping me grounded and being a good 2:49:30.040 --> 2:49:32.160 sounding board. So when I told him I was doing this, 2:49:32.280 --> 2:49:34.400 He's like, yo, man, this is you know, he knew 2:49:34.560 --> 2:49:37.000 how big this was for me. And after all the discussions, 2:49:37.000 --> 2:49:39.000 like a lot of the answers I gave, I've discussed 2:49:39.040 --> 2:49:41.199 with him. But I'm not throwing names out and whatever, 2:49:41.320 --> 2:49:43.039 but that Antonio Knox is my man. 2:49:43.280 --> 2:49:44.600 Well, big him up. 2:49:44.680 --> 2:49:47.119 But let us tell you man like, you know when 2:49:47.160 --> 2:49:51.480 we give these people flowers, when we y'are heroes, man like, 2:49:51.520 --> 2:49:54.000 you know what I'm saying to me everybody, And I 2:49:54.200 --> 2:49:56.320 know how it feels, man, I know how it feels 2:49:56.360 --> 2:49:57.360 to walk in those shoes. 2:49:57.680 --> 2:49:59.520 I know how it feels to be in those locker rooms? 2:50:00.080 --> 2:50:00.200 Is it? 2:50:00.920 --> 2:50:02.640 And you know what I'm saying. So what we do 2:50:02.879 --> 2:50:06.520 is so much, you know, sometimes underrated. You know what 2:50:06.560 --> 2:50:09.160 I mean that you just I just I just I 2:50:09.280 --> 2:50:11.560 love I love this man. I was so excited to 2:50:11.959 --> 2:50:14.440 have you come through. We were betting on you. I 2:50:14.560 --> 2:50:15.160 lost the bet. 2:50:15.800 --> 2:50:17.560 I lost the bet. Now when you think you think 2:50:17.600 --> 2:50:21.039 I got you, like, no, no, no, we bet on time, 2:50:21.480 --> 2:50:23.720 this guy. We bet on time. I said you be 2:50:23.800 --> 2:50:25.080 here three forty five. 2:50:25.240 --> 2:50:27.200 Me and me and Jason went out and we had 2:50:27.240 --> 2:50:29.640 sushi down the street. That's the only reason it's too many. 2:50:32.000 --> 2:50:34.800 I don't know what they're talking about, man, artists. But 2:50:35.000 --> 2:50:37.480 you know what's crazy. As an artist, I always can't relate. 2:50:37.600 --> 2:50:41.200 But then as a businessman, I never I always did 2:50:41.320 --> 2:50:43.520 so early, but I always understand. 2:50:43.640 --> 2:50:46.920 But we got him. We got him. Look this is 2:50:48.120 --> 2:50:52.119 he said that if he had the pickup beat between 2:50:52.280 --> 2:50:54.879 anybody in the world to save the world. He would 2:51:00.560 --> 2:51:05.160 steel great to meet you, man, he said, if he 2:51:05.280 --> 2:51:07.680 can saved the world, he will think you to make 2:51:07.720 --> 2:51:08.000 the beat. 2:51:08.040 --> 2:51:10.000 He's got where's the volume on this, oh ship? 2:51:10.520 --> 2:51:11.400 Who's whose phone? Is it? 2:51:12.000 --> 2:51:12.480 Make the beat? 2:51:12.520 --> 2:51:12.640 Bro? 2:51:13.560 --> 2:51:15.440 You can tell he don't spend no money on his phone. 2:51:17.480 --> 2:51:22.040 My back, he knows, he knows. That's what you said. 2:51:22.680 --> 2:51:25.320 No, I'm down, dude. You know, feature whatever you want, 2:51:25.480 --> 2:51:25.920 you know what I mean. 2:51:25.959 --> 2:51:27.480 I'm down. I'm a big. 2:51:27.360 --> 2:51:29.320 Fan of your work, from what you did with you, 2:51:29.600 --> 2:51:31.160 from what you did with Cube and what you did 2:51:31.200 --> 2:51:33.120 with Methad. Man, I'm a big fan of your work 2:51:33.120 --> 2:51:35.160 and you inspired me as an artist and a producer. Dude, 2:51:36.640 --> 2:51:39.520 because because I've watched several episodes and nobody drops your name, 2:51:39.560 --> 2:51:41.520 I'm like, no, it would be you, and then the 2:51:41.680 --> 2:51:44.039 MC would be stirring wonder from boot Camp click. 2:51:44.720 --> 2:51:46.480 Oh wow. You know what I'm saying. 2:51:47.360 --> 2:51:53.560 Him down, so so absolutely man, So wonderful to meet you, dude. Likewise, likewise, 2:51:53.879 --> 2:51:57.000 my man, thank you, thank you. 2:51:59.320 --> 2:52:03.879 You got an upgreat your phone man, Yeah, man, it's 2:52:03.959 --> 2:52:08.280 just like a metro you got. What's what's the ship, 2:52:08.520 --> 2:52:10.640 what's the what's the next tail? 2:52:10.720 --> 2:52:14.640 It's not like you got the next tail? It's your phone, man, 2:52:15.120 --> 2:52:18.120 it's you. No, that was that was dope, man. I 2:52:18.240 --> 2:52:20.720 love that man, look to step off. 2:52:21.400 --> 2:52:22.720 You go. You donna come and take a shot for 2:52:22.840 --> 2:52:23.560 no reason. Let's go. 2:52:26.720 --> 2:52:30.200 This is the way it works. He's gonna take a 2:52:30.240 --> 2:52:35.800 shot for no reasons because you take it for young Yeah, 2:52:35.959 --> 2:52:37.080 just give him any shot. 2:52:40.800 --> 2:52:42.720 So this is anything. Let me let me ask you 2:52:42.840 --> 2:52:50.560 this sure. Is there anything you ever passed on that 2:52:50.720 --> 2:52:51.240 you regret? 2:52:54.560 --> 2:52:55.279 Specifically? 2:52:56.879 --> 2:53:00.880 I was such a I saw how bad sampling could 2:53:00.879 --> 2:53:03.400 get people in trouble. After what happened with three feet 2:53:03.440 --> 2:53:06.360 high and rising, and then and then uh yeah, and 2:53:06.400 --> 2:53:12.440 then and then the thank you, and then the uh gosh, 2:53:12.520 --> 2:53:12.959 what record? 2:53:13.000 --> 2:53:13.880 What record? What record? 2:53:14.400 --> 2:53:17.680 The bismarcky before all samples clear? The one they pulled. 2:53:18.160 --> 2:53:21.480 So I'm watching this and I'm saying, it's so much 2:53:21.560 --> 2:53:24.240 going on, And even even even some of my records, 2:53:24.560 --> 2:53:27.200 you know that weren't clear. They you know, stuff had 2:53:27.240 --> 2:53:31.040 to come back and be dealt with. So the record 2:53:31.120 --> 2:53:33.800 that would have been a single for me, I had 2:53:33.840 --> 2:53:35.960 a huge sample in it, and I chose not to 2:53:36.040 --> 2:53:42.520 go that route. Changed it around, And I didn't really 2:53:42.600 --> 2:53:45.320 realize at the time that a lot of what people 2:53:45.480 --> 2:53:46.640 liked about those records was the. 2:53:46.640 --> 2:53:50.520 Sample itself because they were familiar. What right, subconscious I 2:53:50.640 --> 2:53:51.080 just saw and. 2:53:51.080 --> 2:53:52.840 Bust and Move had samples in it, but they weren't 2:53:53.040 --> 2:53:55.040 well known. So my thought was, if you can get 2:53:55.040 --> 2:53:58.440 it to sound like a sample or sound like without 2:53:58.480 --> 2:54:00.520 it being something obvious, do you can win like that? 2:54:00.680 --> 2:54:04.840 Because I've had life experience doing that. But in hindsight, 2:54:04.920 --> 2:54:08.400 looking back, if I was more open to putting samples 2:54:08.440 --> 2:54:12.480 in my stuff back then, then I think I would 2:54:12.480 --> 2:54:13.039 have been able. 2:54:12.879 --> 2:54:14.800 To continue my career on a on a certain level 2:54:14.840 --> 2:54:15.480 a little bit longer. 2:54:16.480 --> 2:54:18.920 Okay, let me let me extend that question just a 2:54:18.959 --> 2:54:22.080 little bit, yes, sir, Let me relate it to an artist. 2:54:22.200 --> 2:54:24.200 Is there any artists that you had an opportunity to 2:54:24.240 --> 2:54:26.280 work with and you didn't have to do that? 2:54:27.120 --> 2:54:27.360 You know. 2:54:28.959 --> 2:54:30.879 I would, I would say no, I mean. 2:54:32.360 --> 2:54:33.680 Prince, no, no. 2:54:34.600 --> 2:54:36.600 But if Prince reached out to me, you know what 2:54:36.640 --> 2:54:39.360 I mean, like no one knowing on we said Michael Jackson. 2:54:41.680 --> 2:54:46.160 So yeah, if someone had reached out to me, you know, 2:54:46.640 --> 2:54:49.400 I've never really been in a position where I'm saying 2:54:49.440 --> 2:54:50.560 no to a big artist or whatever. 2:54:51.760 --> 2:54:53.880 It's just never come to me. I wasn't in those circles. 2:54:53.959 --> 2:54:57.119 I went home too early. So okay, so I'm actually 2:54:57.160 --> 2:54:58.920 one you ask me ten. 2:54:59.040 --> 2:55:01.600 Dude, I'm here, actually flew here to be with y'all. 2:55:01.680 --> 2:55:04.720 We actually spoke about it earlier, yes, sir, but let's 2:55:04.760 --> 2:55:07.040 let'st's speak about it again. Now. 2:55:07.840 --> 2:55:11.000 We said the one record to save the world. Right, 2:55:11.560 --> 2:55:16.160 you didn't even pick yourself. You picked Scott Stars and 2:55:16.200 --> 2:55:18.040 you picked a homeboy from og Yeah. 2:55:18.080 --> 2:55:19.960 Yeah, but you said I thought you said it as 2:55:20.000 --> 2:55:20.440 a feature. 2:55:21.080 --> 2:55:24.279 Now, okay, you got. 2:55:26.800 --> 2:55:31.680 For you one record dead alllive. What artists would you. 2:55:31.920 --> 2:55:32.440 Like to work with? 2:55:32.879 --> 2:55:33.000 Oh? 2:55:33.120 --> 2:55:38.280 Wow, that you feature on that you they feature? Yeah, 2:55:39.320 --> 2:55:40.040 that all live. 2:55:40.440 --> 2:55:42.879 I would say Prince, Prince, I would say, I would 2:55:42.879 --> 2:55:44.440 say Prince just I could see it just. 2:55:44.520 --> 2:55:50.360 Because just just because I'd want the challenge of whatever 2:55:50.400 --> 2:55:51.320 he would do musically. 2:55:52.120 --> 2:55:55.680 And I pride myself on being able to rhyme over anything. Right, 2:55:55.840 --> 2:55:57.560 So if if if Prince. 2:55:59.400 --> 2:56:01.720 And it's like like if Prince were, you know, were 2:56:01.760 --> 2:56:03.080 to come up with something that it was a theme 2:56:03.200 --> 2:56:03.640 or whatever, I. 2:56:03.920 --> 2:56:06.360 Love the challenge. You will want him to come up 2:56:06.400 --> 2:56:06.800 with it, you know. 2:56:06.879 --> 2:56:08.000 I mean, i'd be. 2:56:08.000 --> 2:56:10.800 Guessing on his record. I'm not gonna ask Prince the feature. 2:56:11.400 --> 2:56:12.280 I mean, I'm guessing on. 2:56:12.320 --> 2:56:15.000 That, so I'm asking you. I'm asking you, this is 2:56:15.040 --> 2:56:15.560 your feature. 2:56:17.240 --> 2:56:21.480 I don't know, man, I don't know, dude. There's so 2:56:21.560 --> 2:56:23.560 many people that you know that I love and respect 2:56:23.600 --> 2:56:29.200 and and it's I wouldn't I wouldn't know. I really, 2:56:29.240 --> 2:56:31.960 I really wouldn't know, because because it's not you know, 2:56:33.320 --> 2:56:35.920 out of my circle. I would say trench, you know 2:56:35.959 --> 2:56:38.879 what I mean? Like like, I like my my dream 2:56:38.920 --> 2:56:41.640 record would be me tretching quick. That would be if 2:56:41.680 --> 2:56:43.920 you said features and say each guy a verse meet 2:56:43.959 --> 2:56:44.720 me treaching quick. 2:56:45.320 --> 2:56:46.520 That sounds like a mean record. 2:56:46.640 --> 2:56:50.040 Yeah, I know, I'm pretty sure. But I'd want I 2:56:50.120 --> 2:56:50.760 want one of mine. 2:56:50.920 --> 2:56:53.439 That's my whole thing. Man. It's like dam chance compilations. 2:56:54.280 --> 2:56:54.720 I want. 2:56:55.320 --> 2:56:58.080 I want the opportunity to have a record crack and 2:56:58.160 --> 2:57:00.200 then be able to pull in who I want to 2:57:00.240 --> 2:57:03.480 pull in, as opposed to putting the pressure of trying 2:57:03.520 --> 2:57:08.040 to get a current record to do something on the three. 2:57:08.080 --> 2:57:09.920 I just want I want to make that record for 2:57:10.040 --> 2:57:13.960 fun on on an up on an upswing, you know, 2:57:14.120 --> 2:57:16.400 or at least being at a certain plateau, as opposed 2:57:16.400 --> 2:57:19.320 to saying, oh, these artists that haven't whose biggest records 2:57:19.320 --> 2:57:21.120 were X amount of years old, you know. 2:57:21.240 --> 2:57:22.880 Trying to do something now. I'd want to kind of 2:57:22.920 --> 2:57:24.879 be beyond that, you know. 2:57:25.040 --> 2:57:34.320 In terms of doing that. Jeez, Louise, Papa cheeze. You 2:57:34.400 --> 2:57:39.240 ever met James Brown? Never? No, never met James Brown. Okay, 2:57:39.520 --> 2:57:41.279 I just feel like you his cousin. 2:57:42.560 --> 2:57:46.240 I know, I know people. 2:57:47.120 --> 2:57:49.880 I want to say, some people that at UH at 2:57:49.920 --> 2:57:52.440 the agency had worked at work with him touring and 2:57:52.600 --> 2:57:54.280 you know, I've heard stories and that kind of thing, 2:57:54.400 --> 2:57:56.080 but never never met him person. 2:57:56.160 --> 2:57:57.480 That's a that's a bit before my time. 2:57:57.560 --> 2:57:59.240 But also in the in the. 2:57:59.280 --> 2:58:02.320 Eighties we could of cross paths. But yeah, yeah, but 2:58:02.440 --> 2:58:04.760 it just it just didn't come to fruition like. 2:58:04.760 --> 2:58:07.080 That because I thought, I swear to God when I 2:58:07.160 --> 2:58:09.119 asked you that question, I said that alive. I thought 2:58:09.120 --> 2:58:11.640 he was gonna say James Brown, but you said, Prince, 2:58:11.760 --> 2:58:14.480 that's just like that's in the same league. 2:58:14.959 --> 2:58:17.320 Yeah, yeah, I mean just in terms of his artistry 2:58:17.360 --> 2:58:19.440 and just I wouldn't know what I was gonna get, 2:58:20.000 --> 2:58:23.560 and that that's what I want. There's so many different 2:58:23.680 --> 2:58:27.000 sounds that worked so well that whatever he came with, 2:58:27.520 --> 2:58:29.480 I know there'd be a level of genius behind that 2:58:29.560 --> 2:58:32.120 that I wouldn't necessarily see coming, and I'd have to 2:58:32.160 --> 2:58:33.080 step up to that game. 2:58:33.160 --> 2:58:35.080 So that's why I'd say, Prince forgot, he's supposed to 2:58:35.120 --> 2:58:41.760 take your shot. You behead bullshit all right? Let him 2:58:41.760 --> 2:58:42.320 get away with that. 2:58:45.240 --> 2:58:50.800 Jamie Niggas some ice please, Yeah, man, I'm gonna be honest. 2:58:51.480 --> 2:58:54.320 I want to pick you up once again, man, and 2:58:54.560 --> 2:58:57.320 just tell you how much you mean. It's a hip 2:58:57.320 --> 2:59:02.640 hop not just me, not just uh. Like I said, 2:59:02.680 --> 2:59:05.520 I know, I know this job. I know this job. 2:59:05.560 --> 2:59:09.640 I know what it takes. You can never take off 2:59:09.720 --> 2:59:13.400 your uniform. Yeah, being a rapper, you could never take 2:59:13.440 --> 2:59:17.800 off your uniform. Sometimes I admire people that work in 2:59:17.879 --> 2:59:20.440 McDonald's because when they get off at work, they could 2:59:20.440 --> 2:59:24.200 take their shit off. We can't never take our Wherever 2:59:24.320 --> 2:59:26.840 we go, we have to be. It's either you could 2:59:26.840 --> 2:59:30.640 be a target. You can be somebody they love, you 2:59:30.720 --> 2:59:32.400 can be somebody off, somebody they bother. 2:59:33.000 --> 2:59:33.560 You know what I mean. 2:59:33.720 --> 2:59:36.760 So I know this job, and this job is, and 2:59:36.920 --> 2:59:39.920 to be doing it for thirty five years and to 2:59:40.040 --> 2:59:41.320 have a smile on your face. 2:59:42.760 --> 2:59:45.840 I'm what MC eight would call the happy rapper. Then 2:59:45.879 --> 2:59:47.320 when he said I want to be the happy rapper. 2:59:47.320 --> 2:59:50.600 When he said when he said that, I'm like at 2:59:50.640 --> 2:59:52.680 this age, at this time, that resonates with me, Like 2:59:52.879 --> 2:59:54.600 I'm that guy that's. 2:59:54.560 --> 2:59:57.360 Dope being a happy rapper, I think so, oh yeah, 2:59:57.360 --> 2:59:58.600 because there's not a lot of happys. 2:59:59.160 --> 3:00:01.560 No, just I know, dog, But thank you man. 3:00:01.600 --> 3:00:05.720 We appreciate it, man sitting down with us doing drink checks. 3:00:10.400 --> 3:00:12.560 But also I'm not saying this just to say this. 3:00:13.240 --> 3:00:13.960 This is your house. 3:00:14.040 --> 3:00:17.640 So many people if you can't be used, you're useless. 3:00:18.200 --> 3:00:20.640 So many people don't understand that, and so many people 3:00:20.720 --> 3:00:23.560 think that you know, but this is your house when 3:00:23.560 --> 3:00:25.360 you want to go and you perform, and you want 3:00:25.360 --> 3:00:27.840 to you want to talk about you know, your toys. 3:00:27.959 --> 3:00:28.320 This is it. 3:00:28.480 --> 3:00:31.480 Man, like you, we come and we're gonna support it, man, 3:00:31.560 --> 3:00:35.000 because what you did and what you've done for our 3:00:35.120 --> 3:00:38.840 community is something that we always going to salute. 3:00:39.000 --> 3:00:39.280 Thank you. 3:00:39.480 --> 3:00:42.360 Now there's a question you didn't ask me. Let's force 3:00:42.440 --> 3:00:45.440 it and answer force it. Let's go you as you'd 3:00:45.440 --> 3:00:46.680 ask radio or podcast. 3:00:47.000 --> 3:00:47.200 Oh. 3:00:55.440 --> 3:00:55.920 I like it. 3:00:56.200 --> 3:00:59.039 I like that you're gonna point ahead radio podcast. 3:00:58.800 --> 3:01:04.400 Podcasts, I would say, I would say radio for now, 3:01:05.080 --> 3:01:08.400 but podcasts in terms of how you view them evolving. 3:01:08.800 --> 3:01:10.640 When you said you want to make a podcast for 3:01:10.760 --> 3:01:12.360 somebody to break a record and put it out and 3:01:12.440 --> 3:01:14.359 go right to the audience and direct to consumer. 3:01:14.400 --> 3:01:17.760 That that's the way it could be if it was 3:01:17.840 --> 3:01:18.720 regarded as such. 3:01:19.360 --> 3:01:23.240 Radio still has its sway, you know what I mean, 3:01:23.400 --> 3:01:26.720 But if podcasts could get to whereas that organized and 3:01:26.800 --> 3:01:29.760 it wasn't so because there's no such thing as a 3:01:29.800 --> 3:01:32.600 regional podcast. There's only a podcast. There could be a 3:01:32.680 --> 3:01:36.680 podcast that's said in a reason, but it's competing worldwide. 3:01:36.920 --> 3:01:38.760 Try by some mere distribution of right. 3:01:39.240 --> 3:01:41.680 So that makes it difficult because you're literally picking one 3:01:41.720 --> 3:01:45.840 because guarantee, whatever your nearest competition is will say, well, 3:01:45.879 --> 3:01:47.720 if you go on drink champs, you can't come here. 3:01:48.200 --> 3:01:50.160 Whereas if I go to the you know, if I 3:01:50.240 --> 3:01:52.720 go to the biggest station in LA I can still 3:01:52.760 --> 3:01:55.680 go to the biggest station in Dallas, even if they're 3:01:55.720 --> 3:01:58.640 you know, family relate whatever, I can still do that. 3:01:58.840 --> 3:02:02.400 That that's the power of radio. Podcast needs to get 3:02:02.440 --> 3:02:04.920 to that point. So that because young people would say 3:02:04.920 --> 3:02:07.039 podcasts because they don't see what radio did. I remember 3:02:07.080 --> 3:02:08.440 having to go to Houston and I got to go 3:02:08.480 --> 3:02:10.320 to five stations. If I if I go to four, 3:02:10.400 --> 3:02:12.360 I'm gonna lose all of them, right, So I better 3:02:12.440 --> 3:02:14.880 go to five stations in Houston. You know what I'm saying. 3:02:15.120 --> 3:02:17.959 That's the power of radio, right, So yeah. 3:02:18.600 --> 3:02:22.920 Damn, I remember we can't even get our records, like 3:02:23.000 --> 3:02:25.920 I remember I had to physically go to London. Yeah, 3:02:26.400 --> 3:02:29.840 to like have London play my record, like, and we 3:02:30.040 --> 3:02:31.240 speak about your England. 3:02:31.280 --> 3:02:34.280 You England a little too right? I was wing man. 3:02:34.879 --> 3:02:38.440 I was born in England nineteen sixty seven, went to 3:02:38.560 --> 3:02:42.200 New York in nineteen seventy, and then left New York 3:02:42.280 --> 3:02:45.800 in eighty five to go to college. So no, you know, 3:02:46.000 --> 3:02:48.640 no British accent, no Jamaican accent. I sound like I'm 3:02:48.680 --> 3:02:49.959 from the mid from the Midwest. 3:02:50.000 --> 3:02:51.640 You could turn on your pats when you want. That's 3:02:51.680 --> 3:02:54.960 what That's what Drane does. Did dreams he'd be like 3:02:55.040 --> 3:02:56.040 Jamaican anything. 3:02:57.000 --> 3:02:58.760 Well, yeah, like when he went to I see his 3:02:58.920 --> 3:03:02.640 accent jump out. Some Jamaican's coming, right, But yeah, he 3:03:02.720 --> 3:03:10.800 starts sucking the stee He decided London, I see somebody 3:03:10.840 --> 3:03:13.560 from England come around to him, act like he was English. 3:03:14.959 --> 3:03:18.520 Being sophisticated. You don't do that, you don't know. 3:03:20.560 --> 3:03:23.960 I'm just yeah, it's just me, okay, except when I 3:03:24.040 --> 3:03:26.080 was imitating that lady at the Grammys, because that that 3:03:26.240 --> 3:03:27.360 that was very good. 3:03:27.440 --> 3:03:30.480 Thank you, Yes, it was very natural. Thank you well, 3:03:30.560 --> 3:03:31.720 Thank you once again. Man. 3:03:31.879 --> 3:03:36.120 I want you to know that everyone here wants to 3:03:36.200 --> 3:03:40.320 be here to salute what you've done, which continue to 3:03:40.400 --> 3:03:45.080 do and keep doing this ship man like your inspiration 3:03:45.200 --> 3:03:45.440 to us. 3:03:45.480 --> 3:03:47.520 All man, like you know what I'm saying. We got 3:03:47.840 --> 3:03:53.400 love for you. I have to signed a couple of 3:03:53.440 --> 3:03:56.440 these things. You got a pen by the way, that's 3:03:56.480 --> 3:03:59.480 his real CD. 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