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Speaker 1: He is drink champs, motherfucking podcast man.

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Speaker 2: He's a legendary queens rapper.

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Speaker 1: He's agreed as your boy in O R E. He's

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Speaker 1: a Miami hip hop lioneer. What Ups dj E f N?

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Speaker 3: Together they drink it up with some of the biggest players,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean? And the most professional, unprofessional

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Speaker 3: podcast and your number one source.

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Speaker 1: For drunk chans MO every day is New Year's Csten.

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Speaker 1: It's time for drink Champions. Drink up, motherfuck mother? Would

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Speaker 1: it gonna be hoping? Your boy in O R E?

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Speaker 3: What Up? Is d J E f N?

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Speaker 1: And this minitipa crazy war podcast. I don't why when

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Speaker 1: I tell you.

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Speaker 4: We started this show and we said we wanted to

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Speaker 4: interview legends, people that came before us, people that paved

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Speaker 4: the way for us.

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Speaker 1: I said this to everyone that was here earlier.

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Speaker 4: I said, if I had an artist, I would put

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Speaker 4: him through his school of being an MC. I watched

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Speaker 4: this man rock a party like no one else could

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Speaker 4: rock a party. I've watched this man. This, this, This

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Speaker 4: is when we when you say an icon, you say

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Speaker 4: a legend, you say a person that has been in

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Speaker 4: this game, monkey footing, this motherfucker going through it and

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Speaker 4: doing it and continue.

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Speaker 1: To do it. He came late two minutes later to

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Speaker 1: me that.

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Speaker 4: No, it's not, but we have the privilege of interviewing

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Speaker 4: and gotten young motherfucker. All right, Now, here's what's crazy.

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Speaker 4: His what's crazy? When I think of you, I think

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Speaker 4: of West Coast. But when you google you, yes, they.

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Speaker 1: Say you're from Queens. Got some in Queens.

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Speaker 5: Hollis into eleven or one on night, one on one,

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Speaker 5: or ninth and two eleventh together. One ninth is here,

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Speaker 5: two eleventh is here, Hollis is here.

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Speaker 6: Okay, so it's really the coast of Queens Village because

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Speaker 6: after Francis Lewis, it's it's Queens Village and then the

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Speaker 1: But that's what's crazy.

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Speaker 4: Is one of the one of one of my favorite

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Speaker 4: moments in hip hop period was was was a record

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Speaker 4: called All in the Same Game right where that West

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Speaker 4: Coast unity.

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Speaker 1: Recently I just seen Kendrick Lamar.

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Speaker 4: He had put the West Coast together on stage. Now

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Speaker 4: his what's crazy about that? I'm such of a to

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Speaker 4: these young guys, I'm such an old to them that

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah. So when I put it together, I was like,

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Speaker 1: I didn't see this since all in the same game.

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Speaker 6: Well, the funny thing what Kendrick did on stage, and

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Speaker 6: It's the culmination of what we were trying to do

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Speaker 5: He had made a big deal of saying, oh, you know,

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Speaker 5: Now we have sets from.

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Speaker 6: All over the place or whatever, because that was the

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Speaker 1: The same game. Yes, okay, Wheelchair. Now.

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Speaker 6: The interesting thing about that, and I relate some of

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Speaker 6: that to even even Shug's experience, is that you got

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Speaker 6: it was Grand Jury records that Mike had, oh wow,

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Speaker 6: and so we put out all in the same gang.

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Speaker 1: But he did stuff after that as well, so.

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Speaker 6: Circling back, including someone like me from the East Coast.

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Speaker 6: I don't know a lot about the West Coast, not involved.

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Speaker 5: In any gangs.

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Speaker 6: But to get my perspective on a record like that

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Speaker 6: but why do we want to hear what he has

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Speaker 6: to say? And I still got eight bars on the single.

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Speaker 6: I got sixteen bars on the long I.

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Speaker 1: Went.

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Speaker 6: I've been touring a lot, you know, the whole time.

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Speaker 6: My stage muscles are strong. So did you say stage

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Speaker 6: no DJ, no heip man I open. So I have

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Speaker 6: had not done my same gang verse for years and

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Speaker 6: it'll just be my thirty or whatever that I do

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Speaker 1: Was Bus the Move had four.

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Speaker 6: As the years go by, I see the power of

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Speaker 1: My involvement in it.

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Speaker 6: It wasn't just a call and get on And to

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Speaker 6: even go further, Me and Tone are the only two

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Speaker 6: In the video, and well, here's the thing. We both

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Speaker 6: short scene with us in there. Interesting interestingly enough, they

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Speaker 6: can't have them looking like that. So if there's a

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Speaker 1: They took that out, because that so far was with

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Speaker 6: I don't even But the interesting thing is this is

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Speaker 5: So I'm taking pictures. Dude, I'm literally in where.

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Speaker 1: You should take the back then, please, I'm with you.

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Speaker 5: We barely had CDs back while these were new on

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Speaker 6: Exactly, So I'm there taking pictures like a fan, annoying

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Speaker 6: people whatever.

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Speaker 1: Whatever.

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Speaker 6: I come out for saying gang and I'm a peer.

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Speaker 6: They're like, all right, well, you know where do we

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Speaker 6: verse goes here, doctor dre producing me. It's a total

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Speaker 6: different experience. So I culminate that by saying, if I

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Speaker 6: heard of me.

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Speaker 1: You never.

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Speaker 5: I couldn't have wrote while thing there. I couldn't, but

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Speaker 3: We started with this record, I want to stay on

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Speaker 3: here in this second. Is there any awkwardness because think

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Speaker 3: about the type of record it is. It's about LA culture,

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Speaker 3: It's about actually territory in a sense, and MCS could

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Speaker 6: Okay, pretty much everybody on that record, I'd played with.

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Speaker 6: I mean I know Cube from nw A, I knew

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Speaker 6: It just turned out at the time that when Bust

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Speaker 6: to Move hit, I'm you know, I've got my penthouse

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Speaker 6: in West Hollywood and I'm just there. I'm not coming,

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Speaker 6: you know. But I always got respected for what I

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Speaker 6: of times. I'm saying bust to move a bunch of times,

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Speaker 6: and I'm showing how famous I am on this record.

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Speaker 5: No, I saw brothers killing other brothers, because that's what I'm.

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Speaker 1: Seeing everyone recording together, oh separately.

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Speaker 5: See you ask the good questions. I show up to

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Speaker 5: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Because there were dudes on that record.

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Speaker 6: To your point what happened with Kendrick, there were dudes

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Speaker 3: That's a territorial literally territorial.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, even the video shoot.

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Speaker 6: The part of the reason why the video shoot was

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Speaker 6: cool is because Conception had security.

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Speaker 1: All over wow.

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Speaker 3: FOI.

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Speaker 5: I don't know about Foy, but some of it was

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Speaker 3: Remember they breed in another color. They didn't use blue

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Speaker 3: something else in yellow I think, or.

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Speaker 5: Something probably because Yeah, dude, dudes get triggered by seeing colors.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely.

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Speaker 5: I remember.

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Speaker 1: I hate to even bring this up.

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Speaker 6: I remember when I was younger, I was I was

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Speaker 6: a woman I was seeing had talked me into wearing

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Speaker 6: a red suit a red jumpsuit to one of my shows,

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Speaker 6: and it was.

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Speaker 1: At the concept what was thinking? She wasn't thinking, and

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Speaker 1: I don't know any better.

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Speaker 6: So I'm literally getting ready to do my show when

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Speaker 6: of me so they don't see my suit before I

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Speaker 6: wear that there.

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Speaker 5: I didn't know.

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Speaker 1: I'm literally I got.

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Speaker 6: My my entrance to LA was on usc campus, So

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Speaker 6: I'm only finding this out as I went. As I

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Speaker 6: went on, having said that, I know that dudes have

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Speaker 6: been looking out for me, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 6: And I want to give them a shout out.

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Speaker 1: Just just you know, just on just on GP.

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Speaker 6: I've had a pretty good experience in this business, seeing

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Speaker 6: that I've been around. But but like same gang, like

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Speaker 6: I said, as the time goes on, I've really cherished

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Speaker 4: And I thought that that was so dope for me

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Speaker 4: But do you understand that these kids nowadays, records go away.

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Speaker 6: Every show that I do, for the most part, every

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Speaker 3: Is this.

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Speaker 6: I got new music out, so I'm a fifty seven

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Speaker 6: look over see if they see a leg sticking out.

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Speaker 6: That's how they look at a fifty seven year old

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Speaker 6: like what is he doing making records like that? But

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Speaker 6: I've been on stage so much that I love it.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I love it the idea. It's the first

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Speaker 6: Usually you make the record saying, oh, well, what i'll

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Speaker 5: That'll change something, that changes something that you like.

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Speaker 1: To do this on stage?

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Speaker 6: So yeah, man, I mean that if I was in

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Speaker 6: see something. Oh, knowing so much in my experience and

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Speaker 7: Approaching it, but his was all about your show. Like

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Speaker 4: I have a limo when it comes to me doing music,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, not from the stage. I try and do

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Speaker 5: And it's a it.

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Speaker 6: It literally has about thirty to forty different show versions

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Speaker 1: That's professional. Yeah, so well, season the stage hurt, dude.

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Speaker 6: This this nineties tour I've been on this nineties tour

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Speaker 5: What's the crowd like?

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Speaker 6: Busting New thousands of times, still going to rehearse it

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Speaker 5: But when I get on stage in.

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Speaker 7: The time, and it's crazy because for some reason, it's

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Speaker 3: No, no, you got that.

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Speaker 1: Place.

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Speaker 6: But the funny thing is if you know what pharmaceutical

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Speaker 6: get to that point. You know, with all the all

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Speaker 3: So please tell me that all your business was correct

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Speaker 1: Listen in a moment that that was. That was the

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Speaker 3: Okay, plus the records that you've written. But let's just

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Speaker 3: stick move right now.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 6: Literally, when I wrote Bust to Move, my original record

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Speaker 5: So but I knew this, right, I knew this. Well,

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Speaker 5: hold on, I knew this as I.

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Speaker 6: Was making the record, So you didn't have you published.

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Speaker 6: I knew I didn't have that. I mean, that's just

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Speaker 6: You signed a deal that the people knew, a deal

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Speaker 6: I'm going to sell it to this person over at

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Speaker 1: Just for doing that.

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Speaker 6: So and it's and I'm in college at the time.

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Speaker 6: I'm doing this from a dorm room, you know what

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Speaker 6: I knew what it was going to be. And and

444
00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,399
Speaker 6: and at that point Tones Records had come out, or

445
00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,399
Speaker 6: at least wild Thing had come out, and obviously I

446
00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:12,359
Speaker 6: didn't have publishing on that.

447
00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:18,920
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm here wild I wrote, let's let's we

448
00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:20,960
Speaker 1: got we got plenty of time. We gotta talk to

449
00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:22,600
Speaker 1: these things through. I'm sorry.

450
00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,320
Speaker 5: Everything intertwined so it seems like I'm all over the place.

451
00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,520
Speaker 1: No worry, Okay, So hold up a drink, because that's

452
00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:38,200
Speaker 1: because when if it rolls up if and has that

453
00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,960
Speaker 1: kid on that tone, and I'm like, why do you

454
00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:43,600
Speaker 1: have tone?

455
00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:45,000
Speaker 6: You know?

456
00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:46,200
Speaker 1: I didn't know?

457
00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:50,159
Speaker 7: He goes you didn't know, and I go no, He

458
00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:54,040
Speaker 7: goes here he wrote, well, all right, so you gotta

459
00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,520
Speaker 7: bring it down please, thank you. Tone was a delicious

460
00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:56,760
Speaker 7: with me.

461
00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,360
Speaker 1: I had made. I think I had made Principles.

462
00:20:59,920 --> 00:21:01,879
Speaker 6: Office already, and ironically that was supposed to be my

463
00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,480
Speaker 6: first single, and I'm glad. I'm glad that it wasn't.

464
00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,600
Speaker 6: But they gave Tone the track to wild Thing, and

465
00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,600
Speaker 6: they had him write some stuff and they didn't feel

466
00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,520
Speaker 6: it was you know, it was a little too raunchy

467
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,080
Speaker 6: for what they wanted to do, especially with a rock

468
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 6: track China, you know, cross.

469
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:18,400
Speaker 1: Off on radio.

470
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:23,400
Speaker 6: So they come to me and I am like, full

471
00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,000
Speaker 6: on New York MC, like nobody writes for anybody else.

472
00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:26,920
Speaker 5: What are you talking about?

473
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:27,280
Speaker 8: You know?

474
00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,680
Speaker 5: And especially because I've seen wild Thing blow up, I'm like,

475
00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:30,680
Speaker 5: when am I coming out?

476
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:31,800
Speaker 1: What am I gonna? You know what I mean? Or

477
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 1: rather no, because this is really in the.

478
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,560
Speaker 5: Writing of wild Thing, I just felt that I was

479
00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:37,280
Speaker 5: waiting a long time.

480
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,760
Speaker 1: Had you already written and recording? No move Bus The

481
00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:41,679
Speaker 1: move was written.

482
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 6: And recorded after wand Thing and Funky Comadina were not

483
00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,480
Speaker 6: only made, but it come out. So that's why I'm

484
00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:48,679
Speaker 6: confusing a little bit. But basically, I'm like, why am

485
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,640
Speaker 6: I waiting so long? I get signed in eighty seven,

486
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,560
Speaker 6: my record doesn't drop, you know til almost two years later.

487
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,880
Speaker 6: Now you're you're at me, you know, in eighty eight,

488
00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,920
Speaker 6: know how barely come out? They just got on Island

489
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 6: and they want me to They want me to.

490
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 1: Write for Tone and this is delicious. Vinyl is yeah,

491
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 1: this is a delicious vinyl.

492
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:11,480
Speaker 6: So I say, okay, I said, fine, give me half hour,

493
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 6: I'll give you a record. Literally talk to him on

494
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,200
Speaker 6: the phone. Thirty five minutes later. I gave him four verses,

495
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,159
Speaker 6: and three of the verses are verbatim and wild Thing.

496
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 1: Wow.

497
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:25,439
Speaker 6: Now, me and Tone have always been cool, but at

498
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,119
Speaker 6: the time, the label of told Tone that they had

499
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 6: wrote it right because they felt that he wouldn't take

500
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:31,680
Speaker 6: it if he knew that I was.

501
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,399
Speaker 1: Label said they wrote it like literally the guys that

502
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,760
Speaker 1: are on the label. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they said that.

503
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 1: Now mind you.

504
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 6: I mean yeah yeah, I mean the liner notes all

505
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 6: that doesn't out, so he can't tell him. See, So

506
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 6: we spoken and he, you know, found out that I

507
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,880
Speaker 6: did it. He was cool with it, and once again,

508
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 6: it's years are going on. We see how incredible that

509
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,200
Speaker 6: relationship is and what we mean to each other's lives.

510
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 6: Because he credits me, obviously for writing some of his

511
00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,639
Speaker 6: biggest hits, but I credit him for showing me the blueprint.

512
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 6: Because if Buster Move is coming out and there's no

513
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,919
Speaker 6: Wild Thing and no Funky Comadina, I don't know what.

514
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 3: The ceiling is, right, because those are huge records.

515
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get to be at that point. I'm like

516
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 1: going in circles.

517
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,639
Speaker 6: When me and Tone whin wild Thing was finished, we

518
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 6: hoped they would sell fifty two, one hundred thousand records.

519
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 6: He's like he wanted to buy a car, and I

520
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 6: wanted to pay off my student loans. That was That

521
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,880
Speaker 6: was literally the conversation that we have goal Yeah, four million.

522
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 5: One million, saving I'm mind you four million singles, to

523
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 5: the point where the labels like, h maybe we should

524
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,680
Speaker 5: stop pressing singles, maybe we should start pressing out album.

525
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:37,400
Speaker 1: Right.

526
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 6: The only thing that could even come closer it was

527
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 6: We're the World. That was the only thing that was

528
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,439
Speaker 6: that was close to it. So that's that's wild Thing.

529
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,120
Speaker 6: Buster and Move stayed on the Billboard two hundred charts

530
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:52,879
Speaker 6: for forty weeks. Forty weeks outlasted my second single, outlasted

531
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 6: my third single.

532
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 5: It's it's like when you have success like that.

533
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 6: I would not trade that period from mid eighty eight

534
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 6: to mid ninety I would not trade that period for

535
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 6: anybody else in the world in terms of the experience

536
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 6: of what the impact we had on hip hop, the

537
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 6: music business.

538
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:14,639
Speaker 5: You know, my Grammy was.

539
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 6: The first televised Grammy. All of that stuff happening in

540
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 6: that period of time. It's like, dude, I can't be

541
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 6: mad or bitter about anything. Havn't experienced that. And when

542
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 6: me and Tone get together and we talk is great,

543
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 6: you know.

544
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,359
Speaker 5: And on that note, I'm gonna lead the conversations a

545
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 5: little bit.

546
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,639
Speaker 6: I got a shout out Kyle Eustace because Kyle is

547
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 6: a writer that knows that fing really well and helped

548
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,879
Speaker 6: make this happen. But she did an interview with me

549
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,160
Speaker 6: and Tone where some of the stuff started coming out

550
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 6: and she gets stuff all online and it was just

551
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 6: it just really made it really opened my eyes because

552
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 6: how I just throw the names around. These are my friends,

553
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 6: these are my life experiences. But other people react because people,

554
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 6: you know, people are legends. I don't consider myself a legend,

555
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 6: but of people are you know that I've been around

556
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 6: the legends. One last thing i'mnna blow your mind. Guess

557
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:08,160
Speaker 6: who my first DJ was? Battle Cat? Oh shit, battle

558
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,640
Speaker 6: Cat battle Cat Yeah, the battle Cat.

559
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:10,880
Speaker 1: Wow.

560
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 5: He was out with me and then we couldn't find him.

561
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 6: And and when I heard I've not discussed this with him,

562
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 6: but when I heard, he got locked up, but it

563
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,360
Speaker 6: was something something we got jammed up in and three

564
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 6: weeks went by and I had to hire somebody else,

565
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 6: So hied I want to say at that time, Julio

566
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 6: G another mixed master, right, God the mixed master is

567
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 6: when when we were coming out in Delicious, m Walk

568
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 6: who was a mixed master. That's tones DJ to this day.

569
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 6: And then Tony G, who was like the godfather all

570
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 6: of them. He was the DJ for the majority of

571
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,880
Speaker 6: the time, you know what I mean. So and when

572
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 6: Tony and when Tony G it was too much on

573
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 6: the road for Tony G. So we literally had an audition.

574
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 6: My man Eric you know, won the audition. He was

575
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 6: my DJ till I stopp having DJs, you know what

576
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 6: I mean. But it goes back to that much. If

577
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:56,439
Speaker 6: you saw the shirt that I was wearing in here,

578
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,959
Speaker 6: it's it's the little bird record player, like that's how

579
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,119
Speaker 6: I look at my old school. It comes from the vinyl.

580
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 6: For me, it comes from That's the essence. It doesn't

581
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 6: come from instruments as much as it comes from I mean,

582
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 6: he I want to say he was a mixed master.

583
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 6: So if I'm going to KD you know, yeah, yeah, yeah,

584
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 6: they literally had a statement. Yeah, a stable of the

585
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 6: best DJs and the best known DJs in l A.

586
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 6: And for a lot of these cats, it's the first

587
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 6: time to really get out and travel, you know what

588
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 6: I mean, with all the places we're going.

589
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 1: So, yeah, who is that on your shirt? Okay?

590
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 5: This is an AI representation of me on stage? No, no, no,

591
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 5: this one is this go Teresa.

592
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,679
Speaker 6: This is my AI character. I know you guys have discussed.

593
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 6: So it's an AI character. It's like she's like the

594
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 6: label mascot. She's on all my new records. So I'll

595
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 6: picture like this, you got you d Okay, if you

596
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 6: look at a label tag or a producer tag, you

597
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 6: knows me well you know, uh yeah, okay, maybe that

598
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 6: music me, especially during COVID have a lot of downtime.

599
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 6: I'm like, okay, if you took this first thing, I

600
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 6: didn't even know, like the Mayback music was actually a

601
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 6: person I thought it was a you know, voice program

602
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 6: like series. Yeah, So I said, okay, if you took

603
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,959
Speaker 6: that and you fully animated it where it was literally

604
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 6: an element in.

605
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 5: The track that could answer you what would that be like?

606
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,159
Speaker 6: So I created it on the audio side, and then

607
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 6: we got a video that's pretty much all AI for

608
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 6: loose that that creates it on the video side, and

609
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 6: I literally, as the singles go on, I'm having an

610
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 6: AI character kind.

611
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 1: Of like like cod with me on the records.

612
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 3: It's crazy.

613
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, when you hear it as Zoe and I

614
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 5: won't even lie like that.

615
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 6: That's the thing that's motivated me to make records at

616
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 6: this age because I could be like whatever, especially if

617
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 6: you're doing the same thing over and over again. If

618
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 6: I want to get through through sixteens, I'm like, I

619
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 6: got to do something that's interesting.

620
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 5: So for me, that's interesting. Disco theory districts all that.

621
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 4: We had will I am on here and he was

622
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 4: describing this AI ship and then he had his AI

623
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 4: turned British on us.

624
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 1: It was spooky.

625
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

626
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 6: For me, I just wanted I'm very rudimentary, just I

627
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 6: don't want it to imitate anybody. I don't want it

628
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 6: to be anybody. I wanted to be an element in

629
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 6: my music. That's all I wanted. That's that's all I

630
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 6: wanted to be.

631
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: So it's an old school artists. You're accepting AI.

632
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 4: That is you're saying yeah, because a lot of people

633
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 4: don't except like, especially what's going on right now, you

634
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 4: know Drake.

635
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,199
Speaker 3: Actually it depends on how you accept it, and then

636
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 3: you expect you don't want AI to start just generating music.

637
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 1: In South Art, I had people come to me like, yo, yo,

638
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: make a hundred songs a day. You want to make

639
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: a song?

640
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 6: I'm like, no, well, you know I'm using it for

641
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 6: a specific purpose, for a specific reason.

642
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 5: No, you know in ways that someone hasn't used it before.

643
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 6: But all that stuff would imitating voices and and and

644
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 6: without the estate's permission online, I'm not with that, and

645
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 6: that's not something I would I would use it for.

646
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 6: I use the technology in my mind to make the

647
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 6: music better. And it's kind of interesting because I'm One

648
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 6: of my weird quirks that I have is that when

649
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 6: we were working on twenty four track tape, I literally

650
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 6: can have all the tracks memorized and know that we

651
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 6: had enough or didn't have enough before we even laid

652
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 6: a single beat down. So now I'm thinking in three

653
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 6: dimensions when I'm making a record, like, Okay, if I

654
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 6: leave a space here, I can have the A I

655
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 6: say this if I leave a space there, or if

656
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 6: I could have the AI say this, and lead me

657
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 6: blah blah blah. So being able to think it's kind

658
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 6: of spurred me on in terms of how I'm writing.

659
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 1: So it's like being in a group and the AI

660
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: kind of kind of but but but it's not.

661
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 6: It's funny I got when I put the record out,

662
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 6: I got a comment online like, oh, you signed disco Teresa.

663
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 6: What other artists you're gonna sign. I'm like, she's not

664
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 6: an artist.

665
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 5: She's not even a she's not even a she.

666
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

667
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 5: It's just like, it's just it's.

668
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 6: An it, it's an It's an element that I wanted

669
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 6: to put in music. Like I said, like, I haven't

670
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 6: seen people use before, but I still want to have

671
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 6: my artistry be the forefront of all of it.

672
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: I want to.

673
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 4: I want to ask you because my engineer peeped it

674
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 4: when I walked in. When I walked in and I

675
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 4: was telling everybody, and I was like, yo, I bet

676
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 4: he has a different version of Tupac.

677
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, because one of the things that I love is people.

678
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 4: That met Pak prior to him going to death role

679
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 4: because I mean me being I know Geminis.

680
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: Jesus relax, but I know Gemini.

681
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 4: What I'm trying to say, is like it's two different people, right,

682
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 4: but you h you W. I like to say, probably

683
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 4: know the original version of pac.

684
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 6: I knew Park as a member of Digital Okay, and

685
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 6: and if you don't mind, I'm gonna take.

686
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: You on a little trip. We got off We got

687
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 1: off board and passed, let's go.

688
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 6: This goes to something to one of the main reasons

689
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 6: I don't drink today. Okay, when I was when I

690
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 6: was a kid eleven, I'm twelve years old, I had

691
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 6: a liver disorder, went to the hospital, lost a bunch

692
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,479
Speaker 6: of weight. They told me not to drink in my teens.

693
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 6: So by the time I was able to drink in

694
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 6: my early twenties, I drank a little bit. Didn't like

695
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 6: the feeling of not being in control of my body

696
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 6: and just where my mind was, so I stayed away

697
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 6: from it. So years went by, and normally, if I

698
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 6: was in a situation and I was offered a drink,

699
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 6: I just wouldn't take it. Then one time I was

700
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 6: in a circle where I just couldn't turn it down.

701
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 6: Bottle was being passed and I think this is the

702
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 6: only time in my life that I've taken a bottle

703
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 6: from somebody. Gentlemen passed a bottle to me and said,

704
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 6: we're gonna toast this person, right, and it's the same person,

705
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 6: by the way that I saw due to all in

706
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 6: the same gang verse. So I take the drink and

707
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 6: it's Hennessy something sweet, so it may maybe Hennessy, but

708
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 6: there's a bottle passed.

709
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 4: Run claiming on Hendessy. Now alcohol period, we continue.

710
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 6: The person who passed me the bottle was Shocked G.

711
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 6: The person that I was toasting was Tupac. And that's

712
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 6: probably twenty years ago. And that's the last drink that

713
00:31:59,520 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 6: I've taken.

714
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: So your last drink you ever had is with shock

715
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: G and Tupac. That's kind of drink, proper drink.

716
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 5: But that's what I'm saying. It's like it's a personal choice.

717
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 6: First it was health, then a personal choice, and now

718
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 6: I'm not going to start drinking now. If you know

719
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 6: I put it in that perspective, you know what I mean.

720
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 6: And these and once again my heart hurts. Man knowing Tupac.

721
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 5: I knew Tupac as a member of Digital so so

722
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 5: you know Eli and money B and you know what

723
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 5: I mean.

724
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: I knew him as a member there.

725
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 6: He had told an interesting story and and because Tupac

726
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 6: would after his passing, you know, they would come back

727
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 6: to me. I was performing a new a newer record

728
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 6: at an elementary school and some kids had come up

729
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 6: to me and they said, we saw Tupac and and

730
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 6: we asked him about this new fast style of rhyming

731
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 6: that we're hearing.

732
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: All over the radio. And he said, it's cool. I

733
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: like these artists.

734
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 6: I like, you know those people, but you know, young

735
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 6: MC created that' stuf and these and these are little

736
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 6: kids coming and telling me this. So I was like, wow, man,

737
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 6: it's like I didn't know because I wasn't terribly close

738
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 6: to him. We didn't hang out, but I would see

739
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 6: him at the shows like you know, like I like

740
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 6: i'd see other people. He was always cool. It was

741
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 6: always cool, but.

742
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 5: You knew that there was something there when when when

743
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 5: he could break free Shock. Shock was a was a

744
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 5: great guy. Artistically, he was dominating.

745
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 6: So there was a lot that other other artists in

746
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 6: digital you know, may have wanted to do, but the

747
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 6: vision of Shock kind of.

748
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: Controlled digital and it was very successful.

749
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 6: So when Tupac went and did his thing, I was like, Yo,

750
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,959
Speaker 6: that I've never been in a group, but I can

751
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 6: only imagine having stuff in me that I can't get

752
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 6: out in his group that I can get out.

753
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: On my own.

754
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 6: So my whole vision of Tupac was his ability to

755
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 6: express himself, you know, musically, politically, all those things you know,

756
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 6: and and then and to see that you know, come

757
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 6: to fruition.

758
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

759
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, from some of that, I knew that there was.

760
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: In a group.

761
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 3: Did you guys interact after he broke free from digital?

762
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 3: And like, how were those interactions?

763
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 5: I mean when I saw him with when I saw

764
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 5: him it was cool.

765
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 6: I think I seen him with with Sugar a couple

766
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 6: of times, and it was it was always cool, it

767
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 6: was always loved. I'm like Switzerland, dude, I just you see, yes,

768
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 6: you don got no drama, well no drama. And also

769
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 6: my aggression is on the mic, so like anybody can

770
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 6: say whatever they want about me, but they'll never at

771
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 6: least honestly question what I do on the microphone, even

772
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 6: in my fifties. So like that's always been my approach.

773
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 6: I could have done something else. I have a college degree.

774
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 6: I easily could have done something else. But I not

775
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 6: only I love for this, but I know I'm good

776
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 6: at this. So one of the big things when I

777
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 6: first came out to LA, there were other guys that

778
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 6: came from New York and they get up on stage.

779
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 6: Yeah new York, this's New York down and thinking these

780
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 6: people are paying these people, you know, they want to

781
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 6: big up their own plate. This is before LA hip

782
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 6: hop got really big. This is in the you know

783
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 6: Toddy te iced tea batter Ram.

784
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 4: This when people go on stage and stays Booklyn in

785
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 4: the house and everybody go crazy.

786
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:59,879
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so this is this is eighty seven.

787
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 6: And my thing was these people accepted me, so I'm

788
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 6: not going to go up here and say what my neighborhoods.

789
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: I'm not in my neighborhood right now. I'm in LA.

790
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 6: So part of the reason I think I got accepted

791
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 6: for you know, being being part of all in the

792
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 6: same gang, because they knew that I that if I

793
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 6: was going to claim anywhere, I was going to claim LA,

794
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 6: right you know what I mean, even if I wasn't

795
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 6: in the streets and wasn't doing any thug shit or whatever.

796
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 6: I would you know if you said, just like you thought,

797
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 6: I'm West Coast artists people, I never get up and say, yo,

798
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 6: I'm from the East Coast.

799
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: It's not.

800
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 6: I mean, I'll tell people what my background is, but

801
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 6: I'm not. I'm not going to bang the table and

802
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,240
Speaker 6: disrespect the place that that's basically, you know, created my career.

803
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 6: If like, once again, if I stayed in New York,

804
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 6: you never would have heard of me, just wouldn't. Now

805
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 6: you know how New York is all to do. I

806
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 6: would do block parties and I try and break into

807
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 6: a new new cadence and like, no, you don't rhyme

808
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:46,959
Speaker 6: like that, You're gonna run.

809
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 2: Just like this.

810
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 6: It's like, come on, man, and I'm coming up at

811
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 6: a time where you literally have all of hip hop.

812
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 6: If you take a subway map and just extend the

813
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 6: right side out to Long Island, every artist you know

814
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 6: is on that subway map.

815
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 3: That's how was there anybody on on Self Destruction that

816
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 3: wasn't from New York?

817
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: I don't think so. No or from the tri Stated area.

818
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 5: If they were, they didn't claim it.

819
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,879
Speaker 1: But on on on same gang you and Deaf Jeff

820
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: that I could think of, Yeah, yeah, Deaf jefs in

821
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 1: New York. Yeah, because he's not Yeah, he wasn't from

822
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 1: La yeah, really, Yeah, I didn't keep that in youhood.

823
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 6: But that but see that, to me, that's the brilliance

824
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 6: of conception that he was like, I want everybody on that.

825
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 6: I want all these you know, all these viewpoints so

826
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 6: that anybody who's listening who isn't familiar can have something

827
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 6: to hold on to or something that they can identify

828
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 6: with in terms of a path of looking at it.

829
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 6: So I'm I'm in front of the you know, most

830
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 6: lily white crowds in the last you know, a couple

831
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 6: of years doing same gang, and I gotta do same gang,

832
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 6: and there'll be some places and people pull me to

833
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:46,800
Speaker 6: the side. You I'm glad you did that verse. We

834
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 6: don't hear that that you know that you know that

835
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:49,479
Speaker 6: record too often.

836
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 3: So it's like, yeah, and I was gonna say, did

837
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 3: you ever feel because it seemed like the era that

838
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 3: you're coming out in this is kind of like the

839
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 3: beginning of what's some people might say is the Golden

840
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 3: Era late eighties going into the nineties, right.

841
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 1: I would say most people will say that, some people

842
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 1: put it more into the nineties.

843
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 6: I'm gonna stop both for you right there, looking offense,

844
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,919
Speaker 6: have no problem the Golden era. What considers what someone

845
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 6: considers a golden era depends on where they're from. True,

846
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 6: if you're in New York, your Golden Ever starts earlier.

847
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 6: If you're in the West, it starts a little later.

848
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 6: If you're in the South, it saus even later than that.

849
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 1: I'm in the South. Damn, I'm in the South.

850
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 5: But it can't be in the South saying that your

851
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 5: Golden Ever started in eighty five.

852
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: You can't. No, no, no, not mine from me, No no, no,

853
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: not you personal.

854
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 6: I'm just saying a person in the South is not

855
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 6: going to say that that Golden Ever started in eighty

856
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 6: five eighty six. Whereas if you're in New York and

857
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 6: run DMC is out, that could be part of your

858
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 6: Golden Night.

859
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 4: That's part of your Golden ere. If you're from the South,

860
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 4: its body starts.

861
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 3: With Uncle Luke, right or I mean, I don't think

862
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:46,919
Speaker 3: it should be region. I think if you're talking about

863
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 3: the consensus of hip hop, a lot of people put

864
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 3: it like eighty eight to like ninety three, ninety four

865
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 3: or something like that. Happen, yes, but it's.

866
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:55,240
Speaker 1: Influenced by regions.

867
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,479
Speaker 6: So you go earlier than eighty eight from East coast,

868
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 6: you go later than ninety three from the south and

869
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 6: from the west.

870
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 5: That's my point is that.

871
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 6: People throw around this term Golden Era, and that is

872
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 6: a regional I honestly think that's a regional distinction. That's

873
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 6: not something you can say all of him because all

874
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 6: of hip hop. Hip hop has been regional. It's becoming

875
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 6: less regional now, but during then, no Internet, it was,

876
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,320
Speaker 6: it was regional. Well, it depends because you could have

877
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 6: been only.

878
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,439
Speaker 3: Looking at hip hop through the scope of what you got,

879
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 3: which mainly was coming out of.

880
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: New York at right.

881
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 6: So so a regional artist outside of New York is

882
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 6: not going to say, oh, you know, when Eric be

883
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 6: as president came out that I considered that the Golden era.

884
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 6: You know what Eric be as president influenced in that region,

885
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 6: that's where the Golden Era starts.

886
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 5: That's that's that's that's what I think.

887
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: Great point, that's that's what that's is. I think it

888
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 1: could be debatable. I think it could be debatable, but

889
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 1: I can see where you can't understand where you can.

890
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 3: But my point being is that and again this might

891
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 3: be debatable as well because I'm young at the time,

892
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:02,959
Speaker 3: but the perspective was that hard hip hop heads looked

893
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 3: at anybody that went commercially, you know, on the radio

894
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 3: as like selling out the Hammer thing. Did you get

895
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,879
Speaker 3: any of that bass that Hammer got?

896
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 1: I got some of it.

897
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 6: And and and to even go before Tone came before me,

898
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 6: And I remember people saying that Tone sounded like a

899
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 6: broke rock hymn.

900
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: I remember that.

901
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 6: And this is before, this is before, and that's my man, dude,

902
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 6: that's like but he's like blood to me. So I'm

903
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 6: hearing that only but this is before he sells four

904
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 6: million records and.

905
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: It wasn't broke out that four million.

906
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 5: Not only that, but I was saying people usually people

907
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 5: that talk shit ain't done shit.

908
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 1: I want to make some lawyers for that, saying.

909
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, So a lot of this stuff I would hear

910
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 5: wouldn't be coming from artists like I could.

911
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 6: They could be an artist whose music I don't like.

912
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 6: I'm not going to say something to disrespect him, because

913
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 6: I know the struggle. So seeing someone sell as many

914
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 6: records as Tone did, and seeing you know what what

915
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 6: other artists from other reads when when records were coming

916
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 6: up after mine, I wasn't hating on the saying it

917
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 6: wasn't me, I'm like, good for hip hop. The day

918
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 6: after I want my grammy. I wake up in the morning,

919
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,879
Speaker 6: I gotta come down to do press. I'm literally wearing

920
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,359
Speaker 6: a still wearing a suit jacket. I come in front

921
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 6: of this British report I think she was of Indian descent,

922
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 6: and she looks at me. She says, Oh, I'm surprised

923
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 6: you don't have your Grammy around your neck on a chain.

924
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 7: I love your impression. By the way, Jan that's why

925
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 7: they keep calling you your cousin.

926
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: The island is so small it could be.

927
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 6: But the thing is, I'm coming down and I'm trying

928
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 6: to represent and and I get that.

929
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: And this is me.

930
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 5: I'm standing next to Bruce Hornsby, I'm standing next to

931
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 5: all these.

932
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 6: Other people, and they treat me as a peer, especially

933
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 6: the people that know that I wrote Fotona.

934
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,240
Speaker 1: They're like, Yo, this is a real artist.

935
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 6: This may be a different genre, may not be singing whatever,

936
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 6: but he's selling real records and this is real stuff.

937
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,720
Speaker 6: So it's like more media and more you know, hoofla

938
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 6: in terms of the stuff that you get backlash from.

939
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 6: I didn't really pay it any mind, you know what

940
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 6: I mean, because once again it's especially now with social media.

941
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:07,760
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous.

942
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,919
Speaker 6: You can just sit Cheetos mom's basement type type type

943
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 6: and you're supposed to be on the same platform as

944
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 6: someone's out there doing stuff.

945
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 4: Right, Come on, man, now now, because you came from

946
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 4: the era where people were still calling hip hop a

947
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 4: fat people were still saying that, I remember the bigg

948
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 4: the smallest lines. Did you ever hear that hip hop

949
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 4: will make it this far? And it's like, I've noticed

950
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 4: that it's a cliche type of a thing, but you

951
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 4: now got to see a turn into business. Like it

952
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 4: went from being about true school to now it's all

953
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 4: about money. Everyone wants to be you know, be rich

954
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 4: or whatever, but now it's a business. Did you ever

955
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 4: think that hip hop would turn into like a business

956
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 4: and less about the culture.

957
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 6: I always knew that the business side of it would

958
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,280
Speaker 6: would evolve, but I always felt the culture would remain.

959
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 6: So just because it's not the biggest selling record doesn't

960
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 6: mean that it's not something that keeps the culture going.

961
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 6: So that that's always been my approach. It's like I

962
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 6: have certain records before Bust and Move came out. You know,

963
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 6: dudes would tell me that, you know, let them know

964
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 6: and my name is Young and know how and you know,

965
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:19,320
Speaker 6: there's certain records that did that were more culture focused

966
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 6: than he had. It resonated more with the culture. Bust

967
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:23,800
Speaker 6: and move came out, did this thing, you know, and

968
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 6: I'm changed my life. So I'm never going to say

969
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 6: anything negative about it, but I try and make a

970
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 6: point of showing that I took part in the development

971
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 6: of the culture, especially of West Coast hip hop. You know,

972
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 6: I've had really influential artists after me come up to

973
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 6: me and say that, you know, the impact that I've

974
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 6: had on them because I was a good rapper and

975
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 6: I was saying that I was from LA. So there

976
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 6: was a lot of guys that they were a good rapper.

977
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 6: They wouldn't you know, they would claim any place by LA.

978
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 6: But they're La making money.

979
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 1: How it was for a lot of regions at that time. Yeah,

980
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 1: but for me, that was disrespectful.

981
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 6: If I'm here and you guys are paying me and

982
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 6: I'm living, you know, I'm doing the cost of skate

983
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 6: Land World on wheels, billboard.

984
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 1: Live, Florentine Gardens.

985
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, whiskey Roxy, I mean, I'm

986
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 5: doing those are the places.

987
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 6: I'm playing one of those clubs I wish, but that's

988
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. Those those are the places that I

989
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 6: kind of cut my teeth. So I can't, you know,

990
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 6: go from there to saying, oh, but I started wrapping

991
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 6: in a crew in New York. You know, there was

992
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 6: there was an evolution that took place, and I saw

993
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 6: my growth and I really learned the business being in

994
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 6: LA you know. So you say it turned into a business.

995
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 6: It did turn into a business because the money was

996
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 6: there at that point. I have an economics degree, you know,

997
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 6: I'm I'm not going to have somebody count my money

998
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 6: for me.

999
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:50,760
Speaker 3: I mean, it seems like you came in at business

1000
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 3: already because you were already writing records for somebody else.

1001
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 3: It wasn't like you came in as your own MBC. Yeah.

1002
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 5: I mean, well I signed as my own MC. I

1003
00:43:58,600 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 5: didn't sign as a writer.

1004
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 6: Writing stuff came because they saw how I wrote for

1005
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 6: myself as an MC, and so O Marvel would be

1006
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 6: good to tell the story on on on Wild Thing.

1007
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 6: A lot of times rappers, now I guess it's expected. Oh,

1008
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,439
Speaker 6: I you know, this producer has a beat.

1009
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: This beat is so hot.

1010
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 6: I'm an run and do this. I literally never asked

1011
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 6: for a beat change on any record. Okay, this is

1012
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:22,879
Speaker 6: the beat, this is the title.

1013
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 1: Let's go.

1014
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm talking wild thing, funky Cole Medina. There's

1015
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 6: a third record called Showtown that's supposed to be about

1016
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 6: Lakers that never came out, by the way, that was

1017
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:33,919
Speaker 6: supposed to be the third single, but that never came.

1018
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: Out and didn't make the album.

1019
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, it didn't make.

1020
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 6: But I remember because i'd written the first I think

1021
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 6: I may have I have. I still have my rhyme

1022
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 6: book written a pencil because it, you know, wouldn't fade.

1023
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 6: But just sitting down making those seeing what they did,

1024
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 6: it's like I can't look back on that and hate it,

1025
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 6: you know. I look, I look back on that and

1026
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 6: say that that's an amazing time. That that won't won't

1027
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 6: come that won't come back, you know what I mean.

1028
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 6: So my background and and you know, the kind of

1029
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 6: the batteries in my back to keep me going now

1030
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 6: is looking back then and knowing you know, I'm capable

1031
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 6: of that, or I'm capable of being you know, in

1032
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 6: that space, I try and find a level of reality, know,

1033
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 6: and it's like kind of like having a first girlfriend

1034
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 6: that it doesn't really matter, you know, down down the

1035
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 6: line how.

1036
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 5: She looked, it's that she was your first girlfriend.

1037
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 6: So like bust and moved, wild thing, some of these

1038
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 6: records were the first girlfriend for a lot of people

1039
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 6: in hip hop.

1040
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 5: They just were parents.

1041
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 6: Parents didn't know shit, parents wouldn't let them listen to

1042
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 6: the stuff for curses and oh but we you know,

1043
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 6: we were able to listen to your record, right, So

1044
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 6: you know, it's like, do.

1045
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: You feel you've got enough credit for it?

1046
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 3: Because you obviously broke down a lot of barriers for

1047
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 3: hip hop at the time, Like, I'm what records? Do

1048
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 3: you remember any of the records? There had to be

1049
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 3: MTV records for your video? Oh yeah, yeah, no in

1050
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:54,720
Speaker 3: terms of hip hop.

1051
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:58,800
Speaker 5: The reason, well, all right, I think I had started

1052
00:45:58,880 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 5: before MTV raps.

1053
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: Don't get me do you know.

1054
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 5: Don't get me wrong with that, but I could look back.

1055
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 6: But I want to say that I know I was

1056
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 6: putting out some records before MTV rap start.

1057
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 1: I know, let them know.

1058
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 5: It was my first single and I was hyper and

1059
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 5: red alert played it so I know he was there.

1060
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: Wow.

1061
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 5: But in terms of getting credit, it was it was

1062
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 5: a dynamic thing.

1063
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:18,359
Speaker 1: It was growing and there.

1064
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:21,399
Speaker 6: I just wanted to be acknowledged that I was there,

1065
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, Like whatever credit I'm gonna get,

1066
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 6: you know, like.

1067
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: History is told by the winners, you know what I mean.

1068
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 6: So so people, you know, I see, you saw your

1069
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 6: interview with DC and and with other folks, you know,

1070
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:35,919
Speaker 6: the dog Pound and a lot of the stuff they're

1071
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 6: talking about. I know a lot of the people that

1072
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 6: talk about I know. So I'm happy knowing that I

1073
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 6: was there. And if my name ever comes up, you know,

1074
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,879
Speaker 6: then then then I'm hoping something positive will be said.

1075
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 6: But I was there, and I felt that I gave

1076
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 6: a good crowd contribution to it.

1077
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 4: Well, our show is well giving people flowers while they're

1078
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 4: alive where they could smell them, or the trees where

1079
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 4: they can hell them, They thoughts while they could think them,

1080
00:46:58,600 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 4: and they drinks where they can drink them.

1081
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 1: We always, we always quote Snoop Dogg.

1082
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 4: Snoop Dogg says it's better than the Grammy because it

1083
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 4: comes for his people.

1084
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 1: And this is what we want to do.

1085
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 4: So many times in our culture, you know, people they

1086
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 4: don't appreciate each other, and we want to break that

1087
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 4: mold and we want to say how great you are

1088
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 4: because it is real.

1089
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 1: It's really an honor to honor you.

1090
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 5: Thank you man.

1091
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: Well, I was all right, so we wanted to do

1092
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 1: this so bad. I will say that.

1093
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:35,959
Speaker 6: I've won a Grammy. But on a lot of levels

1094
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 6: I appreciate this. Yeah, yea, I'm bad, all right, Yeah,

1095
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 6: I know, on a lot of levels I appreciate this

1096
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 6: more because this is for a lifelong you know, this

1097
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 6: is thirty seven years of work, you know what I mean.

1098
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,359
Speaker 6: So to be recognized, I'm telling my friends you don't

1099
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 6: going on drink.

1100
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 4: Chance for going yo yo yo, shut me out, So

1101
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 4: big up your friends, man, I think it's time a

1102
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 4: quick time Slyne.

1103
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 1: Let's go all right.

1104
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,800
Speaker 4: Now you're not drinking, so but we're gonna give you

1105
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 4: the honor designated drink of having a designated drinker so

1106
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 4: you can actually look at probably anybody in the audience.

1107
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 1: He's always the designated drinkery.

1108
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 3: Wants.

1109
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: Does anybody want it? Yeah? Okay, okay, he just went

1110
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: over there. We got tough over there. Okay, alright, let's

1111
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 1: get it.

1112
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 4: Cool cool, cool, he gonna drink for you, Thank you, sir.

1113
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 4: All right, So you got you know, you know, you know,

1114
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 4: I explaining these rules. Your friend is gonna explain it. Yeah,

1115
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 4: get him a chair, Yeah, I got.

1116
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 5: You got cranberry juice. Cranberry juice over over ice, and

1117
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 5: I'll mixed this with thank you or whatever.

1118
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,320
Speaker 1: He's drinking though for his shots. Yeah, So you explaining

1119
00:48:58,400 --> 00:48:59,839
Speaker 1: him the rules, I'll explained to him.

1120
00:48:59,880 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 6: Ye.

1121
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 3: Okay, We're going to give you two choices. Yes, you

1122
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 3: pick one, nobody drinks. If you say both or neither,

1123
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 3: we're drinking.

1124
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: Okay. So, but and any stories you got with any

1125
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: names mentioned.

1126
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 6: I will much They're all going to have stories because

1127
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 6: if I know them, they're coming from a place of

1128
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 6: a relationship as opposed to what I regard somebody as

1129
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 6: a fan, you know what I'm saying. So so there

1130
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 6: may be some that to people that don't know and

1131
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 6: would be obvious and to me, like I would pick

1132
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:27,760
Speaker 6: to Loko over everybody, I'll put pres over mostly everybody.

1133
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:30,359
Speaker 1: So go ahead. I'm sorry.

1134
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 4: But by the way, by the way, I want to

1135
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 4: take a time out to actually really really really big

1136
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 4: you up.

1137
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:36,399
Speaker 1: Because I'm actually.

1138
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:41,320
Speaker 4: Looking at your drink selection and I'm really realizing you

1139
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 4: drink four different things.

1140
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 1: I don't know what this is. That's this is the

1141
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 1: Haitian version of and then you got Mama Wana. You

1142
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 1: got by the way, pit Bull. He's so loyal to you, man,

1143
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 1: because I can tell he doesn't enjoy this at all.

1144
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: I don't know you want, oh, Mama, don't do it.

1145
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 1: They make that in the to and they make that.

1146
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 4: And a back job, and kidd I'm telling you be

1147
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 4: careful that it's fantastic. I'm just I'll be playing around.

1148
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 1: You. So I just want to before we get into this.

1149
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: This is a different Mama wanna no, no, this is

1150
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 1: this is Haitian. I don't know what will we consider this, Guys,

1151
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: he's not really We've established that he's not really Haitian.

1152
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 3: We can't go to the Sunday d Haitian. I'm looking

1153
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 3: at mother friend. We can't go to Sunny d fund.

1154
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: For the Haitian delegation. We cannot go to sunn Listen,

1155
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you some funny ship. Real great.

1156
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 2: This is this is like.

1157
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 1: It's like Haiti Yeah, summer morn. So he got you

1158
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: got Haitian moonshine.

1159
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 4: You got wan I say it wrong. Then you got

1160
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 4: pit Bull vodka. Yep, which which you had for like

1161
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 4: two years. It ain't going nowhere on.

1162
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,839
Speaker 3: The thirtieth last year, and and then you got there

1163
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 3: and I got beer as well.

1164
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: That's why that's why he's in CrossFit every day, because

1165
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 1: that gangster right there. I've been doing this with him

1166
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 1: eight years and I'm still realizing every more day like

1167
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 1: he might be.

1168
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 6: Okay, I'm gonna do my best to be decisive, but

1169
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 6: even some of them that I say both, I'm gonna

1170
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 6: probably give stories behind it because and by the way.

1171
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 4: I'm so sorry to change the subject a little bit.

1172
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 4: I met Kirk Franklin. Oh boy, I felt like he

1173
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 4: was bad.

1174
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: Did you remind him about militiaman crazy already?

1175
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 3: What? No?

1176
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 8: I did not.

1177
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 1: I did not, but he said he's he won't come

1178
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 1: on the show. I would tell our found. I told

1179
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 1: him my mom truck to get you high.

1180
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 3: Kirk look up radio and Kirk Franklin, and we did.

1181
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 1: We did with frank called him, yeah, Frank call him. Yes.

1182
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 1: If you want to drink this, you got to sit here,

1183
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:03,800
Speaker 1: bro be a part of this. Yeah, you got to

1184
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 1: designated drinkers. It's okay, you, Charlie, you can have some

1185
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 1: of this because he wants to drink this. By the way, Charlie,

1186
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: Charlie got glass what I call him glass like that?

1187
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 1: You know, Charlie strong for no reason, get yourself a

1188
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:28,240
Speaker 1: shot glass, not mine? All right? All right, by the way, already,

1189
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: how you're going to answer this?

1190
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 4: Yes, So I like to let people know when we

1191
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:37,800
Speaker 4: do this that these questions come from a Dominican and

1192
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 4: Columbia and they're.

1193
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 1: Right over there, right over there. Yeah, we don't make

1194
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:43,280
Speaker 1: these questions.

1195
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 4: They come from them, Okay, to own local or mc

1196
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 4: hammers load, dude.

1197
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I just got married, like we believe it.

1198
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 3: Not ahead.

1199
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 5: What what I'll give give him, I'll give him and

1200
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 5: his crops to what he did.

1201
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 1: That's right.

1202
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 6: We need have selling selling that many records and the

1203
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 6: and the impact he had tous like blood to me,

1204
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 6: like walking literally walking down.

1205
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 5: The aisle to marry my wife. Montell Jordan, did my

1206
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:26,439
Speaker 5: ceremony nice?

1207
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 1: We respect that Motel walks.

1208
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 5: In front of me. I'm walking behind Montel.

1209
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 6: The time that I was close to getting choked up

1210
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 6: before I was holding my wife during our vows is

1211
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 6: when I saw Tone.

1212
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 5: Lok in a suit and Rob Base in a suit

1213
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 5: you know what I mean.

1214
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 1: Two three.

1215
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 5: So March, yeah, March March twenty fourth.

1216
00:53:53,960 --> 00:54:00,760
Speaker 1: Rob Base was there, Yeah together, okay, Freedom Freedom. Williams

1217
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 1: is there okay.

1218
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 5: Well also seeing you know, seeing some music factory Montane Left.

1219
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, freedom, Freedom from Left. We have so many discuss

1220
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 6: Freedom has so many stories.

1221
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 1: Due.

1222
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 5: I don't know where he's from because the story is.

1223
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 1: In different places. Ye people to Earth.

1224
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:16,879
Speaker 6: Yeah, and then the rounded out All of One, all

1225
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 6: the members of Off of One came out for my wedding.

1226
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 5: Flew had a show the night before, all brought suits.

1227
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 1: It was Due.

1228
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 6: It was just so hard woman, because these are my friends.

1229
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 6: These are people I see, you know, thirty years, twenty

1230
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 6: five years, twenty years. Even on this nineties tour, I'm

1231
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 6: doing two hundred, three hundred shows with people. They become like,

1232
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 6: you know, like family, that's what you see. I see

1233
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:37,320
Speaker 6: them more than the friends. I'm within Arizona.

1234
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 1: So I tell people that all the time. It's three

1235
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 1: ways you go. You can kind of really really really

1236
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 1: know a person, get locked up with them that's fucked up,

1237
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 1: and go on.

1238
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 5: Tour, which is kind of similar.

1239
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 1: It's similar because you're in jail free, you're in jail traveling.

1240
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 1: Like I'm being honest with you.

1241
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 4: I've always used this description that heaven could be hell

1242
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 4: if you don't want to be there. Y'all understand what

1243
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 4: I just said. If you don't want to be there,

1244
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 4: that's it could be. Like I used to go to

1245
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 4: Paris and hate that ship.

1246
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 1: What the fuck is one croissant? Want chocolates in Switzerland?

1247
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 1: And then I started to realize.

1248
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:28,320
Speaker 4: Because my my, my pilot didn't lead Queens, your pilot

1249
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 4: or your pilot you know what I mean.

1250
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 1: Pilot didn't Queens.

1251
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 5: He has some of the most like creative pronunciations.

1252
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 1: Could have worked.

1253
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 3: It works.

1254
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 1: But the thing is is that you know so well

1255
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 1: that you knew hold on, we're gonna move on, hold

1256
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 1: on on plot Queens. This one, I don't know. He

1257
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 1: go to flight school.

1258
00:55:58,040 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 4: This one, I don't know what you're gonna say. Time

1259
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 4: and this is a good one. I respect, y'all. Tupac

1260
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 4: or shot g.

1261
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,800
Speaker 6: Oh God, I have to say, shock g dude, I

1262
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 6: have to say and once again, I'm going for I

1263
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:13,240
Speaker 6: knew both of them, but I'm going.

1264
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:14,240
Speaker 1: For my relationships.

1265
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 5: Like shock, God rest him. If he was alive, it

1266
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 5: had been at my wedding.

1267
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 6: Shock is somebody I learned so much, even like even

1268
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 6: the all in the same gang, the whole experience. Shak

1269
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 6: had asked me about being in the record, like should

1270
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 6: should should.

1271
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 1: Digital be part of this?

1272
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:34,800
Speaker 6: This is when everybody was deciding whatever and and and

1273
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:36,280
Speaker 6: before it was all finalized.

1274
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 5: I'm like, yeah, man, I'm doing it.

1275
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 1: You were on it before they were even considered or I.

1276
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 6: Had said that I'd approved it. Where what the legal

1277
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 6: documents data? How long it took? Because the delicious are

1278
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 6: trying to get money out of him, which wasn't smart.

1279
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 6: All I knew was I had approved it at the time,

1280
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 6: and they had known that, right. So Shack had asked

1281
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 6: me my opinion, and I said, you know, you should

1282
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:03,240
Speaker 6: do it. Interesting thing before he passed, we had a discussion.

1283
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 6: I had done a Pepsi commercial and a Taco bell commercial, and.

1284
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 5: Oh god, I think for both of them.

1285
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 6: I want to say, maybe I got two hundred grand

1286
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:15,800
Speaker 6: something like that for both commercials together. They come to Shock,

1287
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 6: they offer him more than that, but he had heard

1288
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 6: in rumors that I got a million.

1289
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 1: Dollars for those two commercials. So I'm not sure.

1290
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 6: So I'm not even sure it's the same companies, but

1291
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 6: it's the same type of deal, like a fast food,

1292
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 6: soft drink kind of thing.

1293
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 5: And he had turned down.

1294
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 6: Like three hundred something like that, saying, well, if young

1295
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 6: got a million, I should get close to that, And

1296
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 6: he never took the deal. When I told him how

1297
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 6: much I had gotten, He's like, man, I wish I

1298
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 6: had spoken to you instead of taking the rumors. So

1299
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 6: that's why, like, even seeing that from him, it opened

1300
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 6: my eyes in terms of what the streets say or

1301
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 6: what someone says, you know, because once again, if I'm

1302
00:57:56,560 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 6: hearing someone talk about money, figure said they've never come

1303
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 6: in contact to with themselves. I have to take that

1304
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 6: with a grain of salt. Unless they're the lawyer or

1305
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 6: the business affairs or something that's gonna have access to

1306
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 6: the deal. I can't if someone says a million of

1307
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 6: me and they never seen a mill, then come on, man,

1308
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 6: really nah. So so Shock taught me.

1309
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 3: That fun fact. For Shock he's originally from Tampa.

1310
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, here, this is a fun fact. I know you're

1311
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 4: gonna laugh at me. You know, I really didn't know

1312
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 4: that that was the same.

1313
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 1: He did a great.

1314
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 3: When he did the Arsenio appearance, and he and they

1315
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 3: came out like I think they came out together.

1316
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 1: I think, yes, brother, yes, let me tell you how

1317
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 1: everybody but the nose. The nose makes you know the.

1318
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 4: Let me tell you how bad I was fooled, like

1319
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 4: people told me. And I met him and I still

1320
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 4: asked him. I was like, so, w is homie gonna

1321
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 4: come out?

1322
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 3: He would be like, henna be.

1323
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 1: You know.

1324
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 7: He literally looked at me and was like, you'll know,

1325
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 7: you know that's a joke, right, like it's it's like

1326
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 7: the same person.

1327
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 1: And I was just like, you don't believe. I just

1328
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 1: really is. I really didn't. I really did. So that's

1329
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 1: that's the fun fact for me. Let's move on. D

1330
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 1: O C or m C.

1331
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 5: Wren oh man, I have to say d O C.

1332
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 5: And I say d O C because.

1333
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 6: Before his accident I would see him and I'm I'm

1334
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 6: very lyrically focused. So the dopest line he hasn't funky

1335
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 6: enough to me. He says something that rhyns with G

1336
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 6: or whatever, and he says when I'm p E R

1337
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 6: F O R M I N G N Right. So

1338
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 6: the first time I saw him, at one of the

1339
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 6: times I saw him after the record came out. I

1340
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 6: said p E R F O R M I N

1341
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 6: G N, and d O C looks at me and says,

1342
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 6: you're the only person that got that, because I don't

1343
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 6: get it.

1344
00:59:54,400 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 1: He spelled his pilot never left. His problem was in Queen.

1345
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 6: He's spelled performing and that's that's That's a ten letter

1346
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 6: word that he fits into a line. And ironically, this

1347
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 6: is once again how much of a lyric nerd I am, oh,

1348
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 6: one syllable so you can get away with it, but

1349
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 6: ten letter word he spells out in a rhyme and

1350
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 6: it just sounds like because he doesn't, so they just

1351
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 6: think that it's more babbling. I'm like, no, he's spelled

1352
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 6: performing right there, and I gave him prompts for it.

1353
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 5: He's like, you're the only person that got that.

1354
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 6: Then I saw him, as you know, with the accident

1355
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 6: the DRUP and I opened I opened for him and

1356
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 6: Snoop a couple of years ago and well not open.

1357
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 6: I opened for Snoop and he was there and it

1358
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 6: was my profile before my wedding picture. Actually my profile

1359
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 6: picture on my on my Facebook was was me DC

1360
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 6: and Snoop.

1361
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 4: So that's that's why it's DC okay, that's hard. That

1362
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 4: was a hard explanation. He tried to get you drunk.

1363
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 4: He's looking out for you.

1364
01:00:57,040 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 3: I like he's looking at I'm trying man e PMD

1365
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 3: or Digital Underground man.

1366
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 5: Because I know Eric and Parish.

1367
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 1: I have to say, see y'all want to drink. You

1368
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 1: could say both, you know, because you love.

1369
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 6: Them both, dude, but it can't be both. I knew,

1370
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 6: I knew Eric, I knew Eric, you know met Parish.

1371
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 6: But it's it's got to be Digital Underground. Like my

1372
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 6: my booking agent, Bobby Beissan, love him to death. I've

1373
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 6: had the same booking agent since nineteen ninety eight. He

1374
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:31,480
Speaker 6: one of the last road things he did was being

1375
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 6: on the road road managing Digital Underground.

1376
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:36,440
Speaker 5: So him and him in Shakra like this.

1377
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 6: And then I would see shack a lot touring in

1378
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 6: the whole bit we would have Shock was capable of

1379
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 6: amazing deep conversation. So it's like, this is a man

1380
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 6: who I learned so much from just talking to. So

1381
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 6: it's like, you know, maybe you give me two people

1382
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 6: that I don't have a story with it.

1383
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 1: You're doing five, you're doing five that this is a

1384
01:01:57,160 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 1: good one. I'm saving money. Uber N w a oh

1385
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 1: public enemy, and we want the stories. Let's go.

1386
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 6: Okay, I will say boats you could drink, but I'm

1387
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 6: gonna give the stories on boat.

1388
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 1: Okay.

1389
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 6: He wants, yeah, he wants. He wants you to fill

1390
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 6: you want give us So first Republic enemy could And

1391
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 6: I told him this. I did a podcast God, probably

1392
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 6: a year ago or so and me talking about No, No,

1393
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 6: I'm talking about Chuck and they see you bring up

1394
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 6: Flavor Me and Flavor real cool, like, oh god, you

1395
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 6: saw a flavor go with Flavor. We did a private

1396
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 6: event similar to the one you saw with left right

1397
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 6: me Tone Lok, Rob Bass, Sugarhill Gang, Flavor, Flav hosting.

1398
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 5: Wow, So I'm sitting Master g.

1399
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 3: Is on.

1400
01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 1: Everything. So I've done hosting with Flayed before.

1401
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 6: So we're and this, by the way, this is on

1402
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 6: a yacht leaving from them whether inter Con Leonard con

1403
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 6: New of the Miami and we and we went.

1404
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 5: We went in a circle for a corporate event.

1405
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 6: So the yacht was big enough where we could be

1406
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 6: on the lower levels this corporate rent or whatever, but

1407
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 6: we could be on the lower levels listening to what

1408
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 6: was happening on stage.

1409
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 5: So I do mine.

1410
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 6: Tone goes, Rob goes, sugar Hill goes. So I'm sitting

1411
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 6: with Master G. I don't know if there was a headliner,

1412
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 6: but for some reason, Flay was still on on stage

1413
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 6: where Master G was down downstairs, changed clothes. We started

1414
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 6: talking and we're listening to what happens on stage. Flay

1415
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 6: goes into a medley. And I've known this man at

1416
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 6: this point thirty years, never seen him do a medley

1417
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 6: by himself. But I'm only listening through the ship speakers

1418
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:52,280
Speaker 6: every record he had a verse in Bam bam bam

1419
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 6: bam band both of us, like Messa g is an

1420
01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 6: is a is you know, an idol of mine is

1421
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 6: something some of our mentor.

1422
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 1: So we're having deep conversation.

1423
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:06,240
Speaker 5: We both stop, let's go, and Flavor's just bam bam

1424
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 5: bam bam going through going through stuff like that. So

1425
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 5: I just have a personal love for Flay.

1426
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 6: Flavor's always been good with me, you know, friends of friends,

1427
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 6: short circle, and he's a person, you know, you have

1428
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 6: highs and lows in his business. When the records ain't

1429
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 6: hitting and all that, Flavor's always treated me well. And

1430
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:27,439
Speaker 6: when it comes to Chuck once again, I considered Chuck

1431
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 6: a mentor like if things were were to if things

1432
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 6: would have blow up to a certain place, or I

1433
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 6: was exposed to things that I didn't know about this business,

1434
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 6: I would go to Chuck to get advice. That's the

1435
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 6: person if you said, who would be the first person

1436
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 6: you go to is Chuck d okay nwa.

1437
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:47,520
Speaker 5: Seeing Cbe do what he did in terms of being

1438
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 5: a writer.

1439
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 6: I think me and him, I had not seen Cube

1440
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:52,480
Speaker 6: in twenty some ideas open for him last year. Took

1441
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 6: my now wife with me, and the first thing Cube

1442
01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:57,920
Speaker 6: says to me is like, yo, I hope he was

1443
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:01,440
Speaker 6: cool with the drive by because he played Bust to

1444
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:02,920
Speaker 6: Move in the background of.

1445
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 1: The drive by on was it was it destinate certificate?

1446
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 1: Was America's despertivity?

1447
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 5: See that's I should know this.

1448
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 6: I'm so, I'm sorry, but okay, so I've said, of

1449
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:15,960
Speaker 6: course that that that gave me some of the best

1450
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:21,440
Speaker 6: street credit I ever had. You know, but I mentioned him.

1451
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:23,920
Speaker 6: I mentioned him like, yeah, I'm thinking of going back

1452
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 6: in and making some records. He don't even look at me.

1453
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:27,560
Speaker 6: He looks at my wife and he's like, you need

1454
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 6: to get him back in the studio. You know you

1455
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 6: can be He's kind of for my wife got scared,

1456
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. But he but he respects

1457
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 6: me so much as an artist and writer from back then,

1458
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 6: and because once again it's all of them on stage.

1459
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 6: But I respect him because I didn't know all he

1460
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 6: wrote for them. I did not know literally until the stuff.

1461
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 1: I didn't see him.

1462
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:50,640
Speaker 4: Yeah so well Easy actually said it on the record. Yeah,

1463
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 4: Easy Easy said ice, Q writes the rhymes that I say.

1464
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:57,360
Speaker 4: And I heard that and I was like, I knew

1465
01:05:57,440 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 4: this rhyme and I didn't know that they were witten

1466
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 4: the ghost writing back then.

1467
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 1: I didn't know that shit. So you have Q.

1468
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 6: Easy Easy did a big played a big part of

1469
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 6: me being accepted on the West Coast, Easy Wow, because

1470
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:19,400
Speaker 6: I shared stages with them so so and I'm watching

1471
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 6: straight out of Compton and I remember playing those places

1472
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 6: like some of those places represented Skateland World on wheels,

1473
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. And that's where I came up.

1474
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 6: So I would often open for them, and you know,

1475
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:38,920
Speaker 6: they were always cool with me, always great and easy

1476
01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:42,800
Speaker 6: you know, accepted me, and and Delicious and Ruthless were

1477
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 6: kind of parallel, you know, at least at least for

1478
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 6: at least for a minute, and they had to. They

1479
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:52,120
Speaker 6: had to acknowledge what we were doing on the pop side,

1480
01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:53,960
Speaker 6: and we had to acknowledge what they were doing on

1481
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:55,439
Speaker 6: the on the gangster side.

1482
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 5: But it was all LA and I'm coming from a point.

1483
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 6: Where people were saying La La rappers were whack and

1484
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 6: all that other ship, and I just wasn't hearing it, Like,

1485
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna go up here and change my style

1486
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:07,560
Speaker 6: or try and sound a certain way so that y'all

1487
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 6: I can fit into what you think in LA rappers

1488
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 6: like no, No, I'm from LA and I round like this,

1489
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 6: And I think he's.

1490
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 5: He appreciated that, and I think Cube appreciated that.

1491
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:18,120
Speaker 6: So you take those two just in terms of being

1492
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 6: front men, and then you know Ren and Yellow in

1493
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 6: terms of what they represented for the group.

1494
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:25,960
Speaker 5: And Dre has changed the music from everything from his

1495
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 5: production to.

1496
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 6: To to what you know to death Row to the

1497
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 6: stuff with Interscope, the economics to Beast by Dre.

1498
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 5: Come on, man, it's like I just wanted to see

1499
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:39,360
Speaker 5: y'all drink. I would have picked them up.

1500
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 1: Next question, Yeah, Ice Cube or Biggie Small.

1501
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:48,960
Speaker 6: I gotta say Cube. I gotta say Cube. I never

1502
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 6: met Biggie a lot of respect for Biggie. To me,

1503
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 6: Partying Bullshit is his best record. Like if if if

1504
01:07:55,440 --> 01:08:01,560
Speaker 6: you say, okay, who's the man? Yeah, I didn't know

1505
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 6: who that was. That to me shows how good of

1506
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 6: a record is. Like I go into that record with

1507
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 6: no preconceived notions. I was a sister public school. Ever

1508
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 6: bathroom passes and you know what I'm saying.

1509
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:14,160
Speaker 1: I hear that, I'm like, oh my god, who's that.

1510
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 6: It's only like what two years later that you you

1511
01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:20,640
Speaker 6: actually see ready to die and you see you know

1512
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:21,640
Speaker 6: who that actually is?

1513
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:24,639
Speaker 5: So for you know, and even going back listening to everything,

1514
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 5: you hear the hunger in that record.

1515
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:29,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a hip hop history. He breaks it down.

1516
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:31,760
Speaker 1: I want to go to a school that you could

1517
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:34,560
Speaker 1: teach like you you got to be teacher. Build it

1518
01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:41,680
Speaker 1: damnit literally literally.

1519
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:46,120
Speaker 4: Literally just speak to you all day because and and

1520
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:49,320
Speaker 4: the knowledge, thank you knowledge, that's that's that's real impressive

1521
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:49,519
Speaker 4: to me.

1522
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 5: And to finish, to finish the question, Matt, it was

1523
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:56,479
Speaker 5: what ice Cube or Biggie?

1524
01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 1: I just say that up.

1525
01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:03,759
Speaker 5: Because he likes yeah exactly, but but ice.

1526
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:05,760
Speaker 6: Cube is just it's just it's just another level, not

1527
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:07,640
Speaker 6: only in a personal level, what I've what I saw

1528
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:10,880
Speaker 6: him do with Nwa, sharing those stages, all the shit

1529
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 6: that they went through, what he was able to do

1530
01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:14,040
Speaker 6: as a solo artist, what he's been able to do

1531
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:17,040
Speaker 6: as a businessman. And that's my friend, dude, Like, like,

1532
01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 6: I consider Ice Cube a friend and and just to

1533
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:23,759
Speaker 6: be I hadn't seen him, Like when Busting Move happened,

1534
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:27,160
Speaker 6: I left. I'm not doing the hood the hook places anymore,

1535
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 6: and I'm not coming back each record. I'm a pop

1536
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 6: artist at that point. The got the penthouse in West Hollywood.

1537
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:34,760
Speaker 6: That's what's happening. But I always had love for it.

1538
01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:38,320
Speaker 6: So when I see him, I'm like, Okay, I hope

1539
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:40,320
Speaker 6: he ain't salty for the fact that I, you know what,

1540
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 6: haven't been around or whatever. And he asked me about

1541
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:44,000
Speaker 6: to drive by it, so I'm like, Okay, he's feeling

1542
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 6: some of what I'm feeling that we haven't been around

1543
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:45,840
Speaker 6: each other.

1544
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 1: COOLi old God rest him.

1545
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 6: After after I had after I had opened for Cube,

1546
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 6: we get to talk in and he said he had

1547
01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:55,120
Speaker 6: never shared a stage with Cube, or at least had

1548
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:57,200
Speaker 6: it in twenty years, Like, how does that happen?

1549
01:09:57,439 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 5: Different agencies, different.

1550
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 6: Approaches, you have a record that crosses over pop Cube

1551
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:03,720
Speaker 6: haddingto it for a while. Also, some of the you know,

1552
01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:06,400
Speaker 6: some of the harder ship was harder. It's more difficult

1553
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:08,560
Speaker 6: to get on stage in front of people. Now he

1554
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 6: can to a headline, do whatever he wants. So seeing

1555
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:16,559
Speaker 6: that and you know, just the conversations, conversations we had,

1556
01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 6: it makes it makes the two times come together like

1557
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 6: it doesn't feel like there was a gap, you know

1558
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:22,599
Speaker 6: what I mean.

1559
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 1: So that's that's how I feel about Q.

1560
01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:29,639
Speaker 7: So let me ask you, Yes, sir, this is off

1561
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:33,439
Speaker 7: drink Chaps, this is not quick Thomas slid moment because

1562
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:35,640
Speaker 7: you just hit me.

1563
01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 4: God comes down, God says to you, young and see

1564
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 4: one person can tell your story. Make a movie. Oh boy,

1565
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:54,479
Speaker 4: my choices. Huh, Quentin Tarantino, I don't know why I

1566
01:10:54,560 --> 01:11:03,880
Speaker 4: thought that. Yeah, Ice Cube, Bike Lee or Robert de Niro,

1567
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 4: they're going to be a director.

1568
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:09,720
Speaker 5: I would I would say Cube, I would take cue.

1569
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:10,400
Speaker 1: I set you up.

1570
01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:12,760
Speaker 6: You know what I thought you were going to ask

1571
01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:15,640
Speaker 6: me about the DJ and the or the producer and

1572
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:18,200
Speaker 6: the feature for the record to Save the World.

1573
01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 5: That's what I thought You're gonna ask me.

1574
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 1: Then okay, I'm asking now, now, let's have one for

1575
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:24,160
Speaker 1: that one. Wait wait, what are we talking about now?

1576
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:26,720
Speaker 5: No, No, if you said you you had you have

1577
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:28,759
Speaker 5: to make one record to save the world, world, I want.

1578
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:29,080
Speaker 1: To say the world.

1579
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:31,720
Speaker 4: Get back to that saying you say you said you're

1580
01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:34,120
Speaker 4: gonna you would let ice Cube because of your relationship

1581
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:36,880
Speaker 4: with ice Cube or that's the perfect person for the job.

1582
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:38,680
Speaker 1: I mean fit for you.

1583
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:41,639
Speaker 6: I think perfect fit because he would he's from the era,

1584
01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:45,160
Speaker 6: from the time, from the region, and he.

1585
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:47,519
Speaker 1: Lived through it but understand the material. Yeah.

1586
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:49,800
Speaker 5: So so if you had asked me, you.

1587
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:50,640
Speaker 1: Know, if Yellow was.

1588
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:52,880
Speaker 6: Directed movies, so if Wren was directed movies, I don't

1589
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:54,320
Speaker 6: know them as well, but I would pick them because

1590
01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:55,840
Speaker 6: they know the time and the era and everything. I

1591
01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 6: wouldn't have to explain it, and their memories you will

1592
01:11:58,439 --> 01:11:59,280
Speaker 6: coincide with mine.

1593
01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 1: So because that's like, what's crazy, what it's called biopics. Yeah, yeah,

1594
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:08,720
Speaker 1: so biopics. Yeah, everyone always like relates it to the

1595
01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:11,600
Speaker 1: people that's alive, Like n w A, they say that that.

1596
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:13,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, if you I mean and I'd hate

1597
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:16,760
Speaker 6: to say anything negative about any art on this on

1598
01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:21,800
Speaker 6: this platform, but that Amy Winehouse Jointmie one.

1599
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:23,439
Speaker 5: House movie this. I mean I saw it. I saw

1600
01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:23,840
Speaker 5: it early.

1601
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:28,240
Speaker 6: It was so obvious that it was her family that

1602
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:30,880
Speaker 6: had you know, they throwed a husband under the bus,

1603
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:33,800
Speaker 6: and she wasn't really in the you know, into any

1604
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 6: substances until he came along, and that kind of thing.

1605
01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:38,760
Speaker 6: It just when it's so skewed and then and then

1606
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:42,160
Speaker 6: you have somebody like what Mark ronson and produces biggest produce,

1607
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:44,120
Speaker 6: our biggest record and basically changed their life.

1608
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:45,960
Speaker 5: And he barely gets like two seconds in the movie.

1609
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 1: In the movie.

1610
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 5: I believe, So, I believe, but it would be brief, like.

1611
01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:55,880
Speaker 6: It had to do more with her home life, family, friends,

1612
01:12:56,040 --> 01:12:58,720
Speaker 6: and that just came from you know, them having the

1613
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:02,200
Speaker 6: background of it. But to me, having lived, you know,

1614
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:05,559
Speaker 6: somewhat of an artist's life, there's so many elements to it, dude,

1615
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:08,840
Speaker 6: So I look at that and it just disappoints me

1616
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:10,920
Speaker 6: when you talk about biopictures, like they have to talk

1617
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:13,320
Speaker 6: to everybody and they can't just take it from one side,

1618
01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:15,800
Speaker 6: and they can't let one person, especially if the artist

1619
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 6: is dead, you can't just let one person have say

1620
01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 6: over everything.

1621
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:21,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, it has to be unbiased.

1622
01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:23,759
Speaker 6: So if the artist did something that the family necessarily

1623
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:25,879
Speaker 6: doesn't like you can't just eliminate it from the story.

1624
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:29,320
Speaker 1: Like it never happened. It's retailing history, especially if there's

1625
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:32,600
Speaker 1: millions of witnesses. What happened to this?

1626
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:33,360
Speaker 5: You know what I mean?

1627
01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:36,439
Speaker 1: So yeah, go ahead, Yes, that's real. That's real. So

1628
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:38,720
Speaker 1: you were going with ice Q Okay, okay, But what's

1629
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:41,040
Speaker 1: the record that saves the world? What is the record

1630
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:43,240
Speaker 1: the record save the world?

1631
01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:44,800
Speaker 6: I'm gonna bow your mind because you'll heard NEI of

1632
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:47,080
Speaker 6: these Scott's stories should be producing it.

1633
01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:51,400
Speaker 3: Have not.

1634
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:54,960
Speaker 6: I'm just I just I just I'm not working either

1635
01:13:55,000 --> 01:14:00,800
Speaker 6: of these people. The Scott Scott's US would produce it.

1636
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:07,360
Speaker 6: And the rapper, Yes, Strang Wonder from o GC. That's

1637
01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:10,799
Speaker 6: that when I say, when I say, that's an influence.

1638
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:12,439
Speaker 1: And I met them. I met Sean Price.

1639
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:14,240
Speaker 5: Before he died, walking through a crowd and he looks

1640
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:16,200
Speaker 5: Russe and he looks at me.

1641
01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:17,760
Speaker 1: He's like, yo, you don't give. See I don't give.

1642
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:24,760
Speaker 6: But nobody say about you, you know so. But but yes,

1643
01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:26,559
Speaker 6: they would be Scott Stars and strang Wonder.

1644
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:28,800
Speaker 4: I stand on that put the world on that hold on,

1645
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:30,479
Speaker 4: hold on to save the world. By the way, I'm

1646
01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:32,240
Speaker 4: sitting this to clip the Scott stor meet.

1647
01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:36,240
Speaker 1: But by the way, hold on, hold on, hold on.

1648
01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:42,360
Speaker 4: So if you had any producer in the world, God

1649
01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 4: coming to you with any producer, and you would pick

1650
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:45,000
Speaker 4: Scott's stores.

1651
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:47,280
Speaker 1: That is such a no, no no. But because the

1652
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:52,600
Speaker 1: thing is, I'm asking in in terms of what moved.

1653
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:55,560
Speaker 6: Me when I heard it, Like Dayman considered him the

1654
01:14:55,600 --> 01:15:00,639
Speaker 6: best producer, but but what God, why we thugs with Cube?

1655
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:05,920
Speaker 6: The stuff, the stuff he did, Gosh, the stuff he

1656
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:08,960
Speaker 6: did with method Man, Like that four to twenty one

1657
01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:11,760
Speaker 6: album is so underrated. It seemed like a downpoint down

1658
01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 6: downtime and hip hop. I listen to that record again.

1659
01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:16,960
Speaker 5: I can inspired lyrically and musically to this day.

1660
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:18,320
Speaker 1: Really, you know what I mean.

1661
01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 5: I listen to Why We Don's and I'm like, that's

1662
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:20,559
Speaker 5: not something.

1663
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:20,840
Speaker 1: I mean.

1664
01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:22,800
Speaker 6: I was happy that when I open a Cube, but

1665
01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:26,080
Speaker 6: literally the twenty seven records, I like snuck a picture

1666
01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:28,760
Speaker 6: of the playlist, But I was happy that he did

1667
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:30,800
Speaker 6: that because he could easily do a whole show and

1668
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:31,599
Speaker 6: not do that record.

1669
01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 5: But part of what makes both of those so strong

1670
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:36,439
Speaker 5: for me, it's got storage.

1671
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:38,439
Speaker 1: Wow, Yeah, that's so.

1672
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:45,000
Speaker 5: And then strange Lafleur lafly Scot that's one of the.

1673
01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:47,559
Speaker 1: Unted record in hip hop. Is one of the best

1674
01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:49,640
Speaker 1: coffee And.

1675
01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:54,519
Speaker 6: If you listen, if from an MC standpoint, invariably when

1676
01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:56,760
Speaker 6: I'm listening to those records and then I go back

1677
01:15:56,760 --> 01:16:00,439
Speaker 6: and listen to like the OGC records, his verses are

1678
01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:03,040
Speaker 6: the ones that stand down, you know what I mean?

1679
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:06,080
Speaker 6: How many corner MC want to try when straight shit

1680
01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:09,240
Speaker 6: hit up like that? For you kidding me and I'm

1681
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:11,080
Speaker 6: in LA So I'm like, what is gonna tie me

1682
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:11,680
Speaker 6: to New York?

1683
01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 1: His lyrics.

1684
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:17,120
Speaker 5: Like we're a linked to me to say, Okay, this

1685
01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:19,040
Speaker 5: is what This is the evolution of New York rap.

1686
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:20,000
Speaker 1: This is the evolution of New.

1687
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:21,000
Speaker 5: York kit pop's the range.

1688
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:26,320
Speaker 1: Absolutely, though you fucked me up, you officially hooked me up.

1689
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:29,040
Speaker 1: Definitely come with the cookie cutter on that one coolio

1690
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 1: or easy. Oh god man, we could drink rest in

1691
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:32,880
Speaker 1: Peace today.

1692
01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:35,920
Speaker 5: I mean all right, so y'all could drink I'm gonna

1693
01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:36,519
Speaker 5: say both.

1694
01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:44,000
Speaker 3: Cheers, so look, you can get the good stuff.

1695
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:50,479
Speaker 6: Tone Lok is my closest friend in the music business.

1696
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 6: Like I said, like blood to me.

1697
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:54,640
Speaker 5: Over the last.

1698
01:16:57,120 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 6: Seven eight years, until he passed. Coolio was right there.

1699
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:04,280
Speaker 6: I opened for him. We spend time together, travel with

1700
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:08,040
Speaker 6: his crew, met his family, went to Vegas for his birthday.

1701
01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:12,280
Speaker 6: I mean we would we talk about music, he you know,

1702
01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:17,560
Speaker 6: I would, and and the thing is he understood what

1703
01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:20,120
Speaker 6: it was like to be making West Coast music and

1704
01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 6: then have a massive hit record that kind of overshadows everything,

1705
01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:24,559
Speaker 6: but then you still.

1706
01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:25,840
Speaker 5: Want to be the artist and that kind of thing.

1707
01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:29,080
Speaker 5: So me and him related and just on so many levels.

1708
01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:30,400
Speaker 5: It broke my heart in he past.

1709
01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:37,559
Speaker 6: Easy, As I told you before, Easy was someone who

1710
01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:42,000
Speaker 6: made my acceptance by the West Coast a lot smoother

1711
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:46,160
Speaker 6: because I would be around them and it would be

1712
01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:48,800
Speaker 6: and honestly, this is before a busting.

1713
01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:49,840
Speaker 5: Move, you know, you know pop.

1714
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:53,360
Speaker 6: But from the records I had made, he saw my

1715
01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:57,840
Speaker 6: skill and you know, acknowledged me for it and was

1716
01:17:57,880 --> 01:17:59,679
Speaker 6: good to me, you know what I mean. So I've

1717
01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:02,759
Speaker 6: reasoned and the love both men. Would you have wrote

1718
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:05,839
Speaker 6: for Easy if you to act? Yeah, yeah, absolutely I wouldn't.

1719
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:07,559
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna say no at that point.

1720
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:09,160
Speaker 1: But a lot of people to ask you to like

1721
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:11,719
Speaker 1: write like a drive by record, like a gangster record.

1722
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 6: Well, there's only I mean, there's only so much. I mean, look,

1723
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 6: it's funny because I looked over all my albums and

1724
01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 6: the album that I kind of went furthest away from

1725
01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:23,760
Speaker 6: myself is my ninety three What's the Flavor album? Ali

1726
01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:28,000
Speaker 6: Shahid Mohammad produced some, but the single was one that

1727
01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:30,599
Speaker 6: I produced. But you know, they had me wearing calm.

1728
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:32,640
Speaker 6: You know, they had me wearing fatigues and then you know,

1729
01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 6: just just trying to look like something I wasn't necessarily

1730
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:39,640
Speaker 6: because everybody was. There was such a backlash and they

1731
01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:41,680
Speaker 6: wanted stuff to be gangster. But I wasn't going to

1732
01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:43,320
Speaker 6: change my name when I wasn't going to start cursing

1733
01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:48,120
Speaker 6: on the record, just wasn't going to happen. So you know,

1734
01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 6: if Easy had asked me, I'd have done it. If

1735
01:18:52,280 --> 01:18:53,760
Speaker 6: I had to curse in it for him, I would,

1736
01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:56,960
Speaker 6: I'd have done it. Yeah, I mean, it's it's worked.

1737
01:18:57,080 --> 01:19:00,760
Speaker 6: And also I'm the kind of person where I like

1738
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:03,840
Speaker 6: to see the people around me experience some of what

1739
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:04,600
Speaker 6: I experienced.

1740
01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:06,880
Speaker 5: Part of what part of why I'm so high to.

1741
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:08,400
Speaker 6: I putting on new music now is that I have

1742
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:11,479
Speaker 6: friends that have been my friends for twenty five years

1743
01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:13,559
Speaker 6: that have never gone on the ride with me, never

1744
01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:16,080
Speaker 6: see me with a hit record, and just to know

1745
01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:18,680
Speaker 6: that I have someone with that level of commitment to

1746
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:21,400
Speaker 6: me when records aren't hot, I'd love to have a

1747
01:19:21,439 --> 01:19:23,719
Speaker 6: record that's hot and be able to you know, text

1748
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 6: my man that you know absolutely?

1749
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:29,800
Speaker 1: Do you think he was the first young Yeah? That's

1750
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:33,040
Speaker 1: what I like. How a hell of your time? Were

1751
01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:35,120
Speaker 1: you a young name?

1752
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:38,720
Speaker 5: And it's my last name? But you know, oh, you

1753
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:39,240
Speaker 5: didn't know that.

1754
01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:41,360
Speaker 1: I didn't even think of it either.

1755
01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:43,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Young is my Marvin Young. Young is my

1756
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:43,760
Speaker 5: last name.

1757
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:45,000
Speaker 1: So he wasn't even thinking.

1758
01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:50,160
Speaker 6: You know, I'm the twelve year old hanging around the

1759
01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:52,160
Speaker 6: eighteen year olds at the block party. You know, but

1760
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:54,040
Speaker 6: I can rhyme as good or better than them that

1761
01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:54,960
Speaker 6: they're not happy about.

1762
01:19:55,439 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 1: But yeah, I was.

1763
01:19:56,439 --> 01:19:59,879
Speaker 5: I was the first young with an oh spelled correctly

1764
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:02,719
Speaker 5: and I and I have to trademark.

1765
01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:07,439
Speaker 3: Why you and did you ever think at that time

1766
01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:11,439
Speaker 3: that there would be a plethora of young MC's literally you.

1767
01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:14,120
Speaker 6: Know, it's just dude, and you go online, there's people imitating,

1768
01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:17,479
Speaker 6: you know, impersonating trying to I mean, it is what

1769
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:17,800
Speaker 6: it is.

1770
01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 1: I mean the imitation being a form of flattery. All good.

1771
01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:27,120
Speaker 4: That was dope, Okay, self destructure, all in the same game,

1772
01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:30,360
Speaker 4: all on the same We know that I told you

1773
01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:31,799
Speaker 4: just comes from Columbias and Dominicans.

1774
01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:40,840
Speaker 8: Big Daddy came j Wow, oh man, all right, both

1775
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:49,040
Speaker 8: we got our shots lined up, me and Kane.

1776
01:20:50,479 --> 01:20:53,280
Speaker 5: It's funny because because when Nohow came out, I know,

1777
01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:56,400
Speaker 5: me and Kane had a discussion because he had what

1778
01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:58,519
Speaker 5: was it? What was the fast when he had was it?

1779
01:20:58,640 --> 01:20:59,240
Speaker 5: I get raw?

1780
01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:04,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, So we had a discussion about fastest wrapping, rapping

1781
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:05,439
Speaker 6: and stuff like that.

1782
01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:06,760
Speaker 5: And I've always respected him and.

1783
01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:10,240
Speaker 6: I was a fan of his before I came out

1784
01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 6: l L to see what what that record did from

1785
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:18,479
Speaker 6: radio on what he's doesn't you know has done as

1786
01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:21,719
Speaker 6: an actor, rock the bells all that. It's impressive, dude,

1787
01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:24,880
Speaker 6: It's just it's just really impressive. So on both levels,

1788
01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:26,800
Speaker 6: I got you know, I would get both of them

1789
01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:27,360
Speaker 6: their flowers.

1790
01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:30,760
Speaker 1: That's dope. That's dope. You got the next one? D

1791
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:34,280
Speaker 1: or a tribe called quest Oh man.

1792
01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:37,160
Speaker 6: I love pasta news due, but I gotta say tribe.

1793
01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:40,960
Speaker 6: I gotta say tribe. Ali produced Produce produced a record

1794
01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:44,560
Speaker 6: on me. Q Tip has always been good fife and

1795
01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:47,080
Speaker 6: I get so inspired. There's no record that moves me

1796
01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:51,280
Speaker 6: like check them rhyme. No record, oh god, yeah, no,

1797
01:21:51,479 --> 01:21:54,840
Speaker 6: no record that moves me like that Heavy D or

1798
01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:58,120
Speaker 6: chub rock I would say, I would say heavy D.

1799
01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:00,280
Speaker 6: I would say I had done a few shows a

1800
01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:04,280
Speaker 6: heavy D. And I still remember when when when not

1801
01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:06,759
Speaker 6: only when he passed, but if you remember his dancer

1802
01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:10,880
Speaker 6: passed on tour, and that was that was heartbreaking for

1803
01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:12,519
Speaker 6: all of us that we're doing because we're all doing

1804
01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:15,840
Speaker 6: it at the same time, but to see what what

1805
01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:20,519
Speaker 6: he did, how the how the records crossed. He was

1806
01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:22,760
Speaker 6: one of He's really one of the first to have

1807
01:22:23,240 --> 01:22:26,519
Speaker 6: rap records that that consistently crossed in the urban radio,

1808
01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:28,960
Speaker 6: so they wouldn't go all the way Papa.

1809
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:30,960
Speaker 5: Do you see the R and B stations playing a

1810
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:33,160
Speaker 5: lot of heavy D. Yeah, So that was a big deal.

1811
01:22:33,320 --> 01:22:35,000
Speaker 6: That was a big because once again, it just it

1812
01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:38,040
Speaker 6: just kind of spread the scope of where hip hop

1813
01:22:38,120 --> 01:22:38,360
Speaker 6: could go.

1814
01:22:40,360 --> 01:22:46,040
Speaker 1: That's real. You got this, Yeah, it's gonna hurt group

1815
01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:49,040
Speaker 1: chat l A or New York.

1816
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:56,920
Speaker 5: Oh no, I know you ain't gonna like this. I

1817
01:22:57,960 --> 01:22:58,680
Speaker 5: gotta say l A.

1818
01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:03,240
Speaker 6: That it's been the last ten to fifteen years. It's

1819
01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:05,280
Speaker 6: been the last ten to fifteen years. But like I said,

1820
01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:08,120
Speaker 6: if I stayed in New York, you wouldn't have heard

1821
01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:10,320
Speaker 6: of me. You be in a New York MC, if

1822
01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 6: you're around a lot of older New York MC's, they

1823
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:14,240
Speaker 6: don't want to hear about you having a new style.

1824
01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:15,800
Speaker 5: They don't want to hear about you having a new

1825
01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:17,800
Speaker 5: It just was like we own all this blah blah

1826
01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:18,599
Speaker 5: blah la.

1827
01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:21,280
Speaker 4: There's so many New York artists that get put on

1828
01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 4: from other places.

1829
01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:27,360
Speaker 5: So yeah, because because like it's not a big area,

1830
01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:30,920
Speaker 5: so you could easily have someone that's in control of

1831
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:31,720
Speaker 5: a whole lot.

1832
01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:35,719
Speaker 6: There's a lot of gatekeepers where there wasn't There wasn't

1833
01:23:35,720 --> 01:23:37,200
Speaker 6: that much of a of a gate to.

1834
01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:37,840
Speaker 1: Keep in LA.

1835
01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:39,559
Speaker 5: A couple of artists that were out.

1836
01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:42,640
Speaker 6: But I played all these places and open up for

1837
01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:45,360
Speaker 6: all these acts, and especially you know, the ability to

1838
01:23:45,439 --> 01:23:47,840
Speaker 6: cross over, you know what I mean, There was no

1839
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:50,400
Speaker 6: resentment in LA. If I crossed over from New York,

1840
01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:51,280
Speaker 6: that would have been resentment.

1841
01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:52,800
Speaker 8: Mmmm.

1842
01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:55,360
Speaker 1: That's interesting that you say it that way.

1843
01:23:55,400 --> 01:23:57,759
Speaker 3: So that's how that whole thing that I said about

1844
01:23:58,280 --> 01:24:00,360
Speaker 3: in Hip hop they would have frowned upon I'm going

1845
01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:03,280
Speaker 3: commercial in LA or the West Coast, you were going

1846
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:03,720
Speaker 3: to feel that.

1847
01:24:03,760 --> 01:24:04,719
Speaker 1: Where did they make commercials?

1848
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:04,800
Speaker 5: Do?

1849
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:08,080
Speaker 6: Where did they make commercials? They make more commercials in LA.

1850
01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:18,040
Speaker 6: There were so many examples. I mean, Ice team makes

1851
01:24:18,120 --> 01:24:19,960
Speaker 6: colors and now and now he's an actors So it's

1852
01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:22,160
Speaker 6: like what you know, you're going, Oh, he's on you

1853
01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:24,800
Speaker 6: know SV, he's in long order.

1854
01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:28,519
Speaker 1: So I'm not gonna whatever, know whereas New.

1855
01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:31,040
Speaker 6: York at least not once again, this is my experience

1856
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:32,880
Speaker 6: as a child not being able to get into clubs,

1857
01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:34,200
Speaker 6: and you know what I mean, So it's a little

1858
01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:36,400
Speaker 6: bit different. I wasn't able to get indoors, but just

1859
01:24:36,439 --> 01:24:38,160
Speaker 6: from what I had seen and what I was able

1860
01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:41,879
Speaker 6: to access when I got to l A, Yeah, it's

1861
01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:42,880
Speaker 6: just different in LA.

1862
01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:47,960
Speaker 1: So big of l A. It's okay. It's okay, buddy,

1863
01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:51,120
Speaker 1: Yeah you got this one.

1864
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:52,240
Speaker 5: I got it.

1865
01:24:52,439 --> 01:24:57,519
Speaker 4: Ad Gang Star or nicest move, whatever story we want

1866
01:24:57,560 --> 01:24:57,800
Speaker 4: to say.

1867
01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:02,479
Speaker 1: I would say gang Star, Oh yeah, yeah.

1868
01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:08,439
Speaker 6: Premiere Premiere is a producer Guru rest in Peace Guru,

1869
01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:15,800
Speaker 6: but Guru is an EMC. Just how groundbreaking it was

1870
01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:18,840
Speaker 6: in terms of going over like straight samples and hip

1871
01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:22,920
Speaker 6: hops like like Gang Star made anthems like Nice and

1872
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:25,360
Speaker 6: Smooth has has some good records. I won't I won't lie,

1873
01:25:25,439 --> 01:25:27,920
Speaker 6: but Gangstar to me, at least in my experience, I

1874
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:31,320
Speaker 6: saw anthems, you know several coming out of gangs.

1875
01:25:31,400 --> 01:25:33,640
Speaker 4: Ices Moove has one of the best best rhymes I

1876
01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:37,680
Speaker 4: ever think I heard in hip hop collaborative.

1877
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:40,080
Speaker 1: Anybody want to ask me? Anybody want to ask me?

1878
01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:41,280
Speaker 1: What's the rhyme?

1879
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:44,120
Speaker 4: Is that, no matter how many times the ball bounces,

1880
01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:46,080
Speaker 4: there's still no bones in ice cream?

1881
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:47,720
Speaker 3: I love?

1882
01:25:48,360 --> 01:25:50,920
Speaker 1: Are you sure that's the rhyme? You never heard that

1883
01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:53,960
Speaker 1: no matter how many times the ball balances, there's still

1884
01:25:54,040 --> 01:25:59,120
Speaker 1: no bones in ice cream? Why would he make that up? Well?

1885
01:25:59,120 --> 01:25:59,439
Speaker 1: I mean.

1886
01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:05,439
Speaker 5: On my Piland and queens iPod.

1887
01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:09,040
Speaker 1: Oh, that line is always like the dope there's the

1888
01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:10,840
Speaker 1: dopeest shit to me because I still don't know what

1889
01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:11,800
Speaker 1: technically what it means.

1890
01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:16,639
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, I want the lady to be in a drink. Yes, Okay,

1891
01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:18,240
Speaker 4: I'm going to the next one.

1892
01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:21,680
Speaker 3: Fresh Prince, well Jesse, just on the Fresh Prince, Rob

1893
01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:22,720
Speaker 3: bass and easy rock.

1894
01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:27,479
Speaker 5: Oh man, all right, I have to say rob based

1895
01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:29,160
Speaker 5: and easy rock. I know you're grabbing the dress, but

1896
01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:33,040
Speaker 5: I can't. I mean, I've done hundreds of shows.

1897
01:26:33,240 --> 01:26:35,280
Speaker 1: It Takes Two is probably one of the most iconic

1898
01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:36,439
Speaker 1: hip hop bric. Here's the thing.

1899
01:26:38,080 --> 01:26:40,240
Speaker 6: On some levels, some people were saying that Bust to

1900
01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:42,000
Speaker 6: Move was based on It Takes Too. There wasn't a

1901
01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:43,840
Speaker 6: lady singing in a hook until It Takes Too and

1902
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:47,080
Speaker 6: that came out before Busting Move, you know what I mean. Now,

1903
01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:49,760
Speaker 6: I know the difference of it. It's a different style

1904
01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:54,160
Speaker 6: different but in terms of single rapper rapping over a

1905
01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:59,160
Speaker 6: break beat, you know, somewhat melodic female singing over one

1906
01:26:59,240 --> 01:27:02,519
Speaker 6: hundred and ten beats a minute, there wasn't that much

1907
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:04,599
Speaker 6: of that then if you're talking eighty eight eighty nine,

1908
01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:06,759
Speaker 6: So there was definitely some influence.

1909
01:27:07,400 --> 01:27:09,760
Speaker 1: Just straight feel good record. Yeah, well that.

1910
01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:11,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's what it is.

1911
01:27:11,400 --> 01:27:14,000
Speaker 6: And just to go off on a little tangent when

1912
01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:16,760
Speaker 6: people talk about keeping it real, if I was to

1913
01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:20,040
Speaker 6: change my name, start cursing and records whatever, that wouldn't

1914
01:27:20,040 --> 01:27:21,920
Speaker 6: be keeping it real to me. I have thirty five

1915
01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:24,720
Speaker 6: thirty seven years. I'm not cussing in records. Make it

1916
01:27:24,760 --> 01:27:26,719
Speaker 6: feel good party records, that's my real.

1917
01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:27,280
Speaker 1: You're rock kill.

1918
01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:30,800
Speaker 6: So that's the thing when you and the doc joint,

1919
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:32,519
Speaker 6: when you brought up that he didn't swear. I didn't

1920
01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:33,439
Speaker 6: realize he didn't swear.

1921
01:27:33,439 --> 01:27:33,920
Speaker 1: He's so good.

1922
01:27:33,960 --> 01:27:35,880
Speaker 3: I realized it either, I did.

1923
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:38,439
Speaker 6: I didn't realize it isn't cursing his records. I'm like, man,

1924
01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:40,240
Speaker 6: if I could be, if I could get it like

1925
01:27:40,320 --> 01:27:47,559
Speaker 6: that where people didn't notice, that's dope, Okay. Beastie Boys

1926
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:48,360
Speaker 6: are the fat Boys.

1927
01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:52,000
Speaker 1: Oh, Beastie Boys, dude, and the Beastie Boys.

1928
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:58,439
Speaker 6: For several reasons, the Dust Brothers produced No how So,

1929
01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:00,880
Speaker 6: before the Dust Brothers produced a beast Boys, I had

1930
01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:02,360
Speaker 6: a couple of records on with them.

1931
01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:04,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, so there was a link there.

1932
01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:09,519
Speaker 6: I want to say Tamra Davis and if I'm messing

1933
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:13,240
Speaker 6: up names, she she was affiliated with the with with

1934
01:28:13,360 --> 01:28:17,160
Speaker 6: the Beastie Boys, and she directed I want to I

1935
01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:20,640
Speaker 6: think she did the Principal's Office video. So, and and

1936
01:28:20,720 --> 01:28:22,559
Speaker 6: there would be clubs in La and plays in La.

1937
01:28:22,640 --> 01:28:24,320
Speaker 6: What I see I see them running around and this

1938
01:28:24,479 --> 01:28:25,760
Speaker 6: is right after they.

1939
01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:30,040
Speaker 1: Moved right love Boutique. I feel that, well, they'd have to.

1940
01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:33,160
Speaker 6: To work with the Dust Brothers, right, so, and and

1941
01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:36,840
Speaker 6: that that that's like a sample heaven hell record. There's

1942
01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:39,400
Speaker 6: so many samples on her. It's a groundbreaking record in

1943
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:41,920
Speaker 6: terms of production. So that's why I would say Beastie

1944
01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:43,519
Speaker 6: Boys because there were so many things they did as

1945
01:28:43,560 --> 01:28:45,880
Speaker 6: a group, but in terms of my own personal experience,

1946
01:28:46,760 --> 01:28:49,439
Speaker 6: what they were able to do in that hip hop

1947
01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:51,960
Speaker 6: space with guys that i'd work with, you know what

1948
01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:52,280
Speaker 6: I mean?

1949
01:28:52,680 --> 01:28:56,519
Speaker 1: It was it was Special Battlecat or DJ Quick.

1950
01:28:57,960 --> 01:29:02,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Oh, I haven't thought this long in a minute.

1951
01:29:03,680 --> 01:29:06,479
Speaker 1: What's the name of his drink, Cousin Francis, Cousin Francis.

1952
01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:08,680
Speaker 4: And you could get a Cousin Norri when you get

1953
01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:10,639
Speaker 4: when you added a little bit of baka, it's called

1954
01:29:10,640 --> 01:29:11,280
Speaker 4: a Cousin Norri.

1955
01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:19,080
Speaker 6: Now all right, I gotta say quick, I gotta say

1956
01:29:19,320 --> 01:29:25,439
Speaker 6: I gotta say DJ Quick. He he is such an

1957
01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:29,439
Speaker 6: inspiration to me, and also he has let me know

1958
01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:31,640
Speaker 6: you know how he's been inspired by me.

1959
01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:37,120
Speaker 5: Amg is A is a close friend in his crew.

1960
01:29:37,200 --> 01:29:41,320
Speaker 6: I saw them at at at a couple at a

1961
01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:44,360
Speaker 6: couple of shows recently, and that that whole crew is

1962
01:29:44,640 --> 01:29:50,880
Speaker 6: just a great representation of West Coast hip hop to me,

1963
01:29:51,800 --> 01:29:54,599
Speaker 6: and I feel a lot of the same journey, even

1964
01:29:54,640 --> 01:29:56,519
Speaker 6: though battle Cat did DJ for me way way back

1965
01:29:56,560 --> 01:29:59,120
Speaker 6: in the day. A lot of battle Cat's more recent success,

1966
01:29:59,200 --> 01:30:01,560
Speaker 6: I haven't been Party two as much as I have

1967
01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:07,240
Speaker 6: Quick and just his journey as an artist, him as

1968
01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:08,960
Speaker 6: a lyricist, like this part of me that will put

1969
01:30:09,040 --> 01:30:11,280
Speaker 6: Quick in my top five in turn, because he's so

1970
01:30:11,439 --> 01:30:15,920
Speaker 6: underrated artist and producer or just artists. As an MC,

1971
01:30:16,080 --> 01:30:21,160
Speaker 6: he's so underrated. I can go off on another tangent

1972
01:30:21,200 --> 01:30:24,839
Speaker 6: if you want, but the change. Okay, you're a Jet fan. Continue,

1973
01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:29,639
Speaker 6: you're you're a Jet fan. It's horrible, that hard, it's hardy. Yes,

1974
01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:32,240
Speaker 6: I am a Jet fan. Last year, me and my

1975
01:30:32,360 --> 01:30:35,760
Speaker 6: wife were taken to and we did my fiance at

1976
01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:38,240
Speaker 6: the time, but my wife. Now, we were invited to

1977
01:30:38,439 --> 01:30:41,799
Speaker 6: go see the Jets play the Raiders in Las Vegas.

1978
01:30:41,960 --> 01:30:44,040
Speaker 1: Okay it sounds horrible. Yeah.

1979
01:30:45,400 --> 01:30:48,639
Speaker 6: One of my good friends, uh, Brad, Brad Armstrong owns

1980
01:30:48,680 --> 01:30:52,200
Speaker 6: it owns a bunch of roller rinks, has season tickets.

1981
01:30:52,200 --> 01:30:53,519
Speaker 6: If you ever wants a Raiders game. You see the

1982
01:30:53,520 --> 01:30:55,960
Speaker 6: guy that holds up the fist, that's my man, Brad.

1983
01:30:56,320 --> 01:30:58,120
Speaker 6: So he had he has season tickets. Can you get

1984
01:30:58,200 --> 01:31:02,080
Speaker 6: us in? I go wearing a Quincy Williams jersey. My

1985
01:31:02,160 --> 01:31:05,320
Speaker 6: wife goes in an Xavier Gibson jersey to show you

1986
01:31:05,400 --> 01:31:07,000
Speaker 6: how current. If you know the squad, you know that

1987
01:31:07,080 --> 01:31:09,320
Speaker 6: those are those are high players from the last like

1988
01:31:09,560 --> 01:31:10,040
Speaker 6: year or two.

1989
01:31:10,160 --> 01:31:11,840
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out where the story going.

1990
01:31:13,439 --> 01:31:17,479
Speaker 6: He takes us to the tailgating in Raider Alley in Vegas.

1991
01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:22,640
Speaker 6: All they're banging is Bay shit. You're hearing like like

1992
01:31:22,720 --> 01:31:26,519
Speaker 6: we're still in Oakland. DJ's had the best tackles of

1993
01:31:26,600 --> 01:31:26,960
Speaker 6: my life.

1994
01:31:27,320 --> 01:31:29,120
Speaker 5: But people look at me because we're the only ones

1995
01:31:29,160 --> 01:31:31,360
Speaker 5: in jet jerseys walking out later Alley.

1996
01:31:33,200 --> 01:31:38,360
Speaker 6: Superper every no, everybody was respectful. But the bottom line

1997
01:31:38,479 --> 01:31:39,920
Speaker 6: was I heard a whole bunch of West Coast I

1998
01:31:39,960 --> 01:31:42,000
Speaker 6: mean a whole bunch of bass stuff, to the point

1999
01:31:42,040 --> 01:31:45,920
Speaker 6: where the new records that I'm putting out, people have said,

2000
01:31:46,000 --> 01:31:47,920
Speaker 6: why do you have such a Bay influence on your music?

2001
01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:49,880
Speaker 5: Because that experienced this so much for me.

2002
01:31:50,479 --> 01:31:53,000
Speaker 6: But the only artist that I heard that I recognized

2003
01:31:53,520 --> 01:31:57,360
Speaker 6: was Quick Over something that sounded like down down down

2004
01:31:57,439 --> 01:32:00,320
Speaker 6: but wasn't down down down, but it was our see

2005
01:32:00,320 --> 01:32:02,040
Speaker 6: an older record, but it was able to just go

2006
01:32:02,240 --> 01:32:04,240
Speaker 6: with all the base stuff and quicks not from the bay.

2007
01:32:04,640 --> 01:32:07,320
Speaker 6: But there's such a respect for him and his stuff

2008
01:32:07,360 --> 01:32:10,080
Speaker 6: blends so well and keeps a vibe going that always

2009
01:32:10,120 --> 01:32:13,439
Speaker 6: stuck with me. Like what he can do in terms

2010
01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:16,479
Speaker 6: of opening doors and and and and getting into places

2011
01:32:16,520 --> 01:32:17,120
Speaker 6: with his music.

2012
01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:19,679
Speaker 5: It's it's it's really impressive.

2013
01:32:19,880 --> 01:32:23,960
Speaker 1: No, production wise, he's incredible. Yeah. Is that story?

2014
01:32:25,080 --> 01:32:25,280
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2015
01:32:25,640 --> 01:32:28,240
Speaker 5: Is that story true? That he locked himself And I

2016
01:32:28,360 --> 01:32:29,800
Speaker 5: never asked him this, I should have, but.

2017
01:32:35,960 --> 01:32:37,800
Speaker 6: That he had locked that he had locked himself in

2018
01:32:37,880 --> 01:32:40,560
Speaker 6: the studio or locked himself, you know, down with his

2019
01:32:40,600 --> 01:32:42,160
Speaker 6: equipment for two years to learn how to play.

2020
01:32:42,200 --> 01:32:44,519
Speaker 3: Well, we're gonna take this clip and we're gonna show

2021
01:32:45,920 --> 01:32:47,040
Speaker 3: you're gonna ask you a question.

2022
01:32:47,320 --> 01:32:50,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, no, because because it's obvious that he's an

2023
01:32:50,120 --> 01:32:53,400
Speaker 6: amazing player. But I know some guys that were classically

2024
01:32:53,439 --> 01:32:54,960
Speaker 6: trained and alight, and and that was.

2025
01:32:54,960 --> 01:32:55,679
Speaker 1: That was the story.

2026
01:32:56,200 --> 01:32:58,640
Speaker 6: That was the story that that he was literally you know,

2027
01:32:58,720 --> 01:33:00,920
Speaker 6: put himself in front of his equipment for over a year,

2028
01:33:01,000 --> 01:33:03,280
Speaker 6: not if not two years to learn how to get

2029
01:33:03,320 --> 01:33:05,200
Speaker 6: better as a producer and then just came out came

2030
01:33:05,240 --> 01:33:07,040
Speaker 6: out with you know, with with his sound.

2031
01:33:08,280 --> 01:33:14,080
Speaker 1: So anyway, that's that's dope, that's dope. Okay, got it? Yeah,

2032
01:33:14,439 --> 01:33:16,559
Speaker 1: got the next one? You m TV raps or Music

2033
01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:21,840
Speaker 1: Video Box all y'all could drink both, Okay, yeah, yeah,

2034
01:33:21,920 --> 01:33:22,360
Speaker 1: yeah yeah.

2035
01:33:23,040 --> 01:33:29,880
Speaker 6: Video Video Music Box, Ralph McDaniels, vig Kid influenced me

2036
01:33:29,960 --> 01:33:31,519
Speaker 6: while I was still in New York, before I even

2037
01:33:31,560 --> 01:33:35,280
Speaker 6: went to college. Your MTV Raps was more of an

2038
01:33:35,320 --> 01:33:38,320
Speaker 6: influence once I got to LA and was able to

2039
01:33:38,360 --> 01:33:40,240
Speaker 6: come back with a hit record. So it's really two

2040
01:33:40,280 --> 01:33:44,200
Speaker 6: different parts of my life that you're asking me to to,

2041
01:33:44,439 --> 01:33:46,280
Speaker 6: you know. So, I'm not gonna say, oh, the later

2042
01:33:46,360 --> 01:33:48,240
Speaker 6: part when when the record blew up, is better than

2043
01:33:48,280 --> 01:33:50,439
Speaker 6: the early part because I was influenced by Video Music Box,

2044
01:33:50,640 --> 01:33:52,920
Speaker 6: Oh Channel forty seven, you know what I'm saying that

2045
01:33:53,160 --> 01:33:56,400
Speaker 6: that was my that was my thing. But then MTV now,

2046
01:33:57,080 --> 01:34:01,479
Speaker 6: MTV jams everybody and that cable. I'm on a road

2047
01:34:01,520 --> 01:34:03,559
Speaker 6: for a lot of it, but I saw the influence

2048
01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:05,800
Speaker 6: of it, and then when they allowed them to get

2049
01:34:06,000 --> 01:34:09,160
Speaker 6: everybody in hip hop on there, that was serious. That's

2050
01:34:09,200 --> 01:34:12,240
Speaker 6: when MTV was at their peak and hip hop was

2051
01:34:12,320 --> 01:34:14,559
Speaker 6: really getting established. So if you talk about hip hop

2052
01:34:14,640 --> 01:34:19,400
Speaker 6: on a global scale, and I'm sorry, your TV Raps

2053
01:34:19,439 --> 01:34:23,639
Speaker 6: did a lot more from that. Yeah, Okay, Soul Trained

2054
01:34:23,800 --> 01:34:31,040
Speaker 6: or Apollo m I'd say soul trained. I'd say soul

2055
01:34:31,120 --> 01:34:37,880
Speaker 6: trained because in terms of exposing you know, the joke

2056
01:34:37,960 --> 01:34:39,920
Speaker 6: I have is like people like like black people can

2057
01:34:39,960 --> 01:34:42,400
Speaker 6: tell a space and time if you say, yeah, yeah,

2058
01:34:42,400 --> 01:34:44,559
Speaker 6: that's right. Around the year It's soul people started, Soul

2059
01:34:44,600 --> 01:34:47,960
Speaker 6: Train started letting white people on. You know what I'm saying, Like,

2060
01:34:48,240 --> 01:34:50,439
Speaker 6: like every every every person who watched Soul Train be like,

2061
01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:54,840
Speaker 6: I remember that. So Soul Train did more for me

2062
01:34:55,080 --> 01:34:58,439
Speaker 6: in terms of exposing more people to more music.

2063
01:34:59,040 --> 01:35:00,080
Speaker 5: The Apollo.

2064
01:35:01,160 --> 01:35:04,040
Speaker 6: It was like you went into an arena, you did

2065
01:35:04,120 --> 01:35:06,519
Speaker 6: your stuff, But in terms of exposing people to music,

2066
01:35:06,600 --> 01:35:09,200
Speaker 6: it was less about that as it was about just

2067
01:35:09,600 --> 01:35:14,479
Speaker 6: the personality of the Apollo to me, Yeah, yeah, intimidating place.

2068
01:35:15,439 --> 01:35:17,519
Speaker 1: Paying your dues, like paying your dues.

2069
01:35:17,600 --> 01:35:20,639
Speaker 6: The story I'll tell my second album, This is during

2070
01:35:20,720 --> 01:35:22,080
Speaker 6: the time when we have dancers. So I think I

2071
01:35:22,160 --> 01:35:24,560
Speaker 6: had either four or six dancers at the time, and

2072
01:35:24,920 --> 01:35:26,680
Speaker 6: I'm doing my song. I want to say is that's

2073
01:35:26,800 --> 01:35:28,559
Speaker 6: that's the way that goes, And there's a little break

2074
01:35:28,600 --> 01:35:31,120
Speaker 6: in there, so I get the crowd hype during my

2075
01:35:31,240 --> 01:35:33,760
Speaker 6: break and realize that I've gotten so hyped that my

2076
01:35:34,280 --> 01:35:38,840
Speaker 6: next verses started and yeah, throw your hand, you know

2077
01:35:38,880 --> 01:35:40,800
Speaker 6: what I mean, try not to show that you made

2078
01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:44,200
Speaker 6: a mistake. I picked up my verse from the choreography,

2079
01:35:44,920 --> 01:35:48,400
Speaker 6: fifth line, they walk back, I say this boom jump

2080
01:35:48,479 --> 01:35:50,439
Speaker 6: right in. Nobody ever missed it. But it was my

2081
01:35:50,560 --> 01:35:52,800
Speaker 6: nerves of being on the Apollo. But then I'm like, oh,

2082
01:35:52,800 --> 01:35:55,320
Speaker 6: I'm capable of doing that. So they was pulling people

2083
01:35:55,360 --> 01:36:01,880
Speaker 6: back then, they wasn't gonna pull me. Oh you said

2084
01:36:01,880 --> 01:36:03,800
Speaker 6: boot I thought what she meant, pole like literally like,

2085
01:36:04,479 --> 01:36:06,800
Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, they've always wow people.

2086
01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:07,719
Speaker 1: I don't know if I got booze.

2087
01:36:07,880 --> 01:36:08,120
Speaker 5: I don't.

2088
01:36:08,160 --> 01:36:08,439
Speaker 2: I don't.

2089
01:36:08,520 --> 01:36:10,800
Speaker 6: I don't think I did, but I would have if

2090
01:36:10,840 --> 01:36:12,800
Speaker 6: I had just stopped then. But I literally was able

2091
01:36:12,800 --> 01:36:15,000
Speaker 6: to pick up the verse from the choreography. So that's

2092
01:36:15,080 --> 01:36:16,040
Speaker 6: my apollo story.

2093
01:36:16,160 --> 01:36:19,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, boom boom Queen Latifa or MC light.

2094
01:36:23,200 --> 01:36:29,680
Speaker 6: Oh man, I gotta say, Queen Latifa, me and me

2095
01:36:29,720 --> 01:36:31,120
Speaker 6: and me and down go back, dude.

2096
01:36:31,160 --> 01:36:31,800
Speaker 1: This is my mark.

2097
01:36:31,880 --> 01:36:35,280
Speaker 6: The forty five King marked. The forty five King was

2098
01:36:35,360 --> 01:36:38,960
Speaker 6: my inspiration when I was still in Queen's So we're talking,

2099
01:36:39,680 --> 01:36:42,800
Speaker 6: you know, fifteen sixteen, seventeen years old, before I went

2100
01:36:42,840 --> 01:36:45,800
Speaker 6: to college before any record deals, before anything, and I

2101
01:36:46,120 --> 01:36:48,240
Speaker 6: can tell you that the thing about the record deal too,

2102
01:36:48,320 --> 01:36:50,760
Speaker 6: that says another New York to La thing. But Mark

2103
01:36:50,800 --> 01:36:53,719
Speaker 6: the forty five King was my was a big inspiration

2104
01:36:53,880 --> 01:36:55,679
Speaker 6: to me. And to see what he did with Queen

2105
01:36:55,760 --> 01:36:58,320
Speaker 6: Latifa at the at the Jump, and I knew her

2106
01:36:58,400 --> 01:37:00,920
Speaker 6: his Dana, you know what I mean. So it's like, yeah,

2107
01:37:01,000 --> 01:37:04,559
Speaker 6: empty Light, I met emc Light, I want to say,

2108
01:37:04,840 --> 01:37:07,720
Speaker 6: as I was coming up, and to this day she's

2109
01:37:07,760 --> 01:37:13,080
Speaker 6: still really good friends with good friends of mine. But

2110
01:37:13,360 --> 01:37:15,519
Speaker 6: but in terms of my personal influence, i'd have to

2111
01:37:15,560 --> 01:37:16,720
Speaker 6: say Latifa.

2112
01:37:16,360 --> 01:37:20,519
Speaker 1: So you knew her personally, I just called a Dana man.

2113
01:37:23,920 --> 01:37:25,600
Speaker 5: But but I knew her as that, you know what

2114
01:37:25,600 --> 01:37:26,720
Speaker 5: I mean. I knew her as that.

2115
01:37:26,840 --> 01:37:29,080
Speaker 6: So it's like whether it be I don't know if

2116
01:37:29,120 --> 01:37:34,000
Speaker 6: it was parties or you know, functions events, whatever, but

2117
01:37:34,400 --> 01:37:36,840
Speaker 6: we would you know, we ran into each other, you know,

2118
01:37:36,920 --> 01:37:37,360
Speaker 6: from back then.

2119
01:37:37,400 --> 01:37:39,679
Speaker 3: They just had an incredible show at the Hollywood Bowl

2120
01:37:39,840 --> 01:37:44,960
Speaker 3: with the Roots. Okay, yeah, it looked incredible. Lats it

2121
01:37:45,040 --> 01:37:47,679
Speaker 3: was I think the Roots Picnic on the road.

2122
01:37:47,880 --> 01:37:49,880
Speaker 1: Oh real, Latifa. I believe Light was.

2123
01:37:49,880 --> 01:37:53,679
Speaker 3: There, Ammonie was there the far side was there dress

2124
01:37:53,760 --> 01:37:54,519
Speaker 3: black sheep, it was.

2125
01:37:54,600 --> 01:37:55,960
Speaker 1: It looked incredible just real quick.

2126
01:37:56,000 --> 01:37:59,080
Speaker 6: You guys had Cassidy on and when I saw Cassie

2127
01:38:00,040 --> 01:38:01,439
Speaker 6: J Cassidy along with Steve Rifkin.

2128
01:38:01,680 --> 01:38:02,839
Speaker 1: So when I saw DJ.

2129
01:38:02,720 --> 01:38:05,200
Speaker 6: Cassidy's episode, I texted him because he mentioned a record

2130
01:38:05,240 --> 01:38:07,439
Speaker 6: store called Rock and Soul and he would have been

2131
01:38:07,479 --> 01:38:10,639
Speaker 6: going there mid nineties, I guess something like that early

2132
01:38:11,439 --> 01:38:11,840
Speaker 6: in that era.

2133
01:38:12,200 --> 01:38:13,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I went to that record store.

2134
01:38:13,720 --> 01:38:16,840
Speaker 6: In nineteen eighty three, nineteen eighty three, nineteen eighty fourth,

2135
01:38:16,880 --> 01:38:18,720
Speaker 6: the worst I DJ my own prom in eighty five.

2136
01:38:19,160 --> 01:38:21,719
Speaker 6: So I was DJ and getting records from there, buying

2137
01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:23,160
Speaker 6: everything on def jam like, oh.

2138
01:38:23,080 --> 01:38:24,519
Speaker 1: It's got that, this got, this got the you know,

2139
01:38:24,600 --> 01:38:26,439
Speaker 1: the the Burgundy label Boom give it to me.

2140
01:38:27,400 --> 01:38:29,439
Speaker 6: And the dude that introduced me to the guys that

2141
01:38:29,520 --> 01:38:32,479
Speaker 6: delicious worked at Rock and Soul, guy named er So.

2142
01:38:32,640 --> 01:38:33,960
Speaker 1: And it goes that far back.

2143
01:38:34,479 --> 01:38:36,400
Speaker 6: And I'm going to school at ninety fourth and Park

2144
01:38:36,760 --> 01:38:39,000
Speaker 6: detoured my way to go to thirty six and seventh

2145
01:38:39,200 --> 01:38:40,479
Speaker 6: before I got on it, before.

2146
01:38:40,439 --> 01:38:41,120
Speaker 5: Before I went home.

2147
01:38:41,280 --> 01:38:44,559
Speaker 1: Now I'm good. Why you gonna try? I gotta try

2148
01:38:44,680 --> 01:38:47,840
Speaker 1: sometimes there. Now you think I'm getting enough of a content.

2149
01:38:49,800 --> 01:38:52,240
Speaker 1: You see something. He said. I know this is indicative

2150
01:38:52,280 --> 01:38:52,639
Speaker 1: of an era.

2151
01:38:52,800 --> 01:38:55,920
Speaker 3: There was an era of MC's that were DJs before

2152
01:38:55,920 --> 01:38:58,439
Speaker 3: there were MC oh, yeah, yes, and yes he did.

2153
01:39:00,280 --> 01:39:01,200
Speaker 1: From a certain era.

2154
01:39:01,160 --> 01:39:03,160
Speaker 3: Where DJ's first, and I don't know it made a

2155
01:39:03,200 --> 01:39:04,799
Speaker 3: certain kind of MC being DJs.

2156
01:39:04,840 --> 01:39:05,640
Speaker 1: Well see, And that's the thing.

2157
01:39:05,720 --> 01:39:07,960
Speaker 6: That's why I don't get why today everybody's like, oh,

2158
01:39:08,000 --> 01:39:09,400
Speaker 6: you hear a beat and you just jump on and

2159
01:39:09,479 --> 01:39:12,479
Speaker 6: it's like, no, like I hear the whole record, So

2160
01:39:13,120 --> 01:39:14,960
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna hear somebody's beat and be like, oh,

2161
01:39:14,960 --> 01:39:17,600
Speaker 6: I got to write something. I gotta get inspired. The

2162
01:39:17,680 --> 01:39:20,960
Speaker 6: whole way through while thing was like, here's the beat.

2163
01:39:21,200 --> 01:39:23,160
Speaker 6: You need to write a record, call this to this.

2164
01:39:23,960 --> 01:39:25,400
Speaker 5: Go none of this.

2165
01:39:25,520 --> 01:39:27,920
Speaker 6: I can't rhyme over this, or I can't write to this,

2166
01:39:28,160 --> 01:39:30,120
Speaker 6: or I can't get an idea. Can you slow it down?

2167
01:39:30,160 --> 01:39:32,840
Speaker 6: Can you change the sample? Can you know that's the beat?

2168
01:39:32,920 --> 01:39:35,479
Speaker 6: Go do it four times platinum? You know what I'm saying,

2169
01:39:35,680 --> 01:39:38,000
Speaker 6: Like bust to move here here It is the only

2170
01:39:38,040 --> 01:39:39,599
Speaker 6: thing I did. I called it make that move when

2171
01:39:39,600 --> 01:39:41,200
Speaker 6: I wrote it down, and they changed the bust to

2172
01:39:41,240 --> 01:39:43,720
Speaker 6: move ninety minutes. All four verses don't change the word

2173
01:39:43,920 --> 01:39:45,960
Speaker 6: double platinum, Grammy, you know what I'm saying. I'm not

2174
01:39:46,000 --> 01:39:48,120
Speaker 6: gonna be like, oh I heard this beat, now I'm

2175
01:39:48,120 --> 01:39:49,439
Speaker 6: gonna come up with this. No, I gotta hear the

2176
01:39:49,520 --> 01:39:53,280
Speaker 6: whole thing. I have to hear the whole record going on.

2177
01:39:53,360 --> 01:39:55,280
Speaker 1: Please don't hate me, but I just want to go back.

2178
01:39:55,360 --> 01:39:56,280
Speaker 1: You didn't get published on.

2179
01:39:56,280 --> 01:39:58,760
Speaker 6: Those records, not on why I thing bust the move

2180
01:39:58,800 --> 01:40:01,640
Speaker 6: I published. Okay, yeah, so you can sleep good at night.

2181
01:40:04,520 --> 01:40:06,839
Speaker 3: I just I'm killing I'm like, man, if the published

2182
01:40:06,840 --> 01:40:08,120
Speaker 3: tem you would have had it intact.

2183
01:40:08,760 --> 01:40:09,479
Speaker 1: All those records.

2184
01:40:09,680 --> 01:40:11,720
Speaker 6: Even though I'm gonna say this, but I can't go

2185
01:40:11,920 --> 01:40:14,200
Speaker 6: deep into NDAs and all that.

2186
01:40:14,479 --> 01:40:17,360
Speaker 5: Y'all know where reversion is. Yeah, thirty five.

2187
01:40:19,120 --> 01:40:20,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, so so I only did half, but my

2188
01:40:21,040 --> 01:40:24,719
Speaker 6: thirty five year was in May, so it includes those.

2189
01:40:25,040 --> 01:40:30,240
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, let's make some noise for that. Yeah, so

2190
01:40:30,640 --> 01:40:33,680
Speaker 1: legends on here waiting for that thirty fifty Yeah I know, no, no, no,

2191
01:40:33,800 --> 01:40:34,240
Speaker 1: trust me to.

2192
01:40:34,640 --> 01:40:37,640
Speaker 6: I feel so fortunate that I'm I still have my

2193
01:40:37,720 --> 01:40:39,479
Speaker 6: wits about me, that I can still go on stage

2194
01:40:39,520 --> 01:40:41,439
Speaker 6: and rocket crowd and experience it.

2195
01:40:41,479 --> 01:40:43,760
Speaker 5: That's why that happened. I'm like, oh, I can make

2196
01:40:43,880 --> 01:40:44,320
Speaker 5: new music.

2197
01:40:44,400 --> 01:40:46,840
Speaker 6: Now, not that I couldn't before, but it's not I

2198
01:40:46,880 --> 01:40:49,559
Speaker 6: don't have the pressure of like make the music, got

2199
01:40:49,640 --> 01:40:51,320
Speaker 6: to sell this amount, got to make this. You know,

2200
01:40:51,800 --> 01:40:54,720
Speaker 6: I can actually plan something, especially in this era where

2201
01:40:55,439 --> 01:40:57,760
Speaker 6: it's a wild West out there in terms of records. Yes,

2202
01:40:57,880 --> 01:40:59,760
Speaker 6: but I'm definitely you know, I'm gonna keep in touch

2203
01:40:59,800 --> 01:41:00,519
Speaker 6: with all.

2204
01:41:00,760 --> 01:41:03,680
Speaker 4: Because literally you could literally now give your music to

2205
01:41:03,760 --> 01:41:08,320
Speaker 4: your family, like as like a trust funds.

2206
01:41:08,479 --> 01:41:10,360
Speaker 1: It is like actually ill, yeah, I mean well.

2207
01:41:10,439 --> 01:41:13,040
Speaker 6: And the funny thing is the reversion is different than

2208
01:41:13,120 --> 01:41:16,120
Speaker 6: than than than selling catalogs with the real big numbers.

2209
01:41:16,800 --> 01:41:20,320
Speaker 6: So in terms of catalog ownership, I still have, you know,

2210
01:41:20,479 --> 01:41:23,439
Speaker 6: my portions of my catalog that I but my thought

2211
01:41:23,520 --> 01:41:27,960
Speaker 6: in making new music is that that not only increases

2212
01:41:28,000 --> 01:41:30,679
Speaker 6: the value of the new music obviously, but increases the value.

2213
01:41:30,439 --> 01:41:31,240
Speaker 1: Of the whole catalog.

2214
01:41:32,040 --> 01:41:34,360
Speaker 6: My one of my biggest strengths in the music business

2215
01:41:34,600 --> 01:41:37,800
Speaker 6: has been licensing, and part of the reason of that

2216
01:41:38,080 --> 01:41:42,280
Speaker 6: is that it's just me. I don't sample, but my

2217
01:41:42,479 --> 01:41:44,200
Speaker 6: voice is almost like a sample. Like I can get

2218
01:41:44,240 --> 01:41:45,840
Speaker 6: the voice, same voice that was on Bust to Move,

2219
01:41:45,880 --> 01:41:47,880
Speaker 6: but I don't have to pay six figures for the

2220
01:41:47,960 --> 01:41:50,599
Speaker 6: license from the big company, I can get a new record,

2221
01:41:50,720 --> 01:41:52,640
Speaker 6: a different record, a record that even sounds more like

2222
01:41:52,720 --> 01:41:54,360
Speaker 6: what I want my movie to sound like, and have

2223
01:41:54,520 --> 01:41:55,160
Speaker 6: that voice on it.

2224
01:41:55,800 --> 01:41:59,640
Speaker 5: All of my albums, really all all all of my subsequent.

2225
01:41:59,280 --> 01:42:01,920
Speaker 6: Albums, because even and even Relentless, I've gotten licenses on

2226
01:42:02,160 --> 01:42:04,439
Speaker 6: but all of my albums were able to be paid

2227
01:42:04,479 --> 01:42:09,120
Speaker 6: for by licenses without any shows. If I never did

2228
01:42:09,160 --> 01:42:11,120
Speaker 6: a show, I would have still made money on the

2229
01:42:11,160 --> 01:42:13,760
Speaker 6: album just from licenses. And this is this is going

2230
01:42:13,800 --> 01:42:20,120
Speaker 6: through like six seven albums outside of Stone Karaman, Brainstorm,

2231
01:42:20,479 --> 01:42:22,640
Speaker 6: what's the flavor? Six seven albums that I've made since then,

2232
01:42:22,720 --> 01:42:26,120
Speaker 6: since ninety three, everything is paid for itself from getting licenses,

2233
01:42:26,160 --> 01:42:27,880
Speaker 6: everything from Honorage on down.

2234
01:42:28,240 --> 01:42:30,479
Speaker 4: So were you saying, when they played your music and

2235
01:42:30,600 --> 01:42:32,840
Speaker 4: do where's my car? They have to negotiate with you.

2236
01:42:33,160 --> 01:42:35,599
Speaker 5: No, that's the point. Okay, if they, if they, if they,

2237
01:42:36,400 --> 01:42:38,080
Speaker 5: if they put us to move and do where's my car?

2238
01:42:38,120 --> 01:42:39,719
Speaker 5: They negotiating with the label, okay?

2239
01:42:39,920 --> 01:42:40,040
Speaker 2: Right?

2240
01:42:40,960 --> 01:42:43,240
Speaker 6: And and the even though I have my publishing, the

2241
01:42:43,320 --> 01:42:46,080
Speaker 6: administrative administrator of the publishing, so I don't have much

2242
01:42:46,120 --> 01:42:48,000
Speaker 6: of a say. I'm more of a say now post reversion,

2243
01:42:48,040 --> 01:42:50,320
Speaker 6: I over say. But up to that point, I don't

2244
01:42:50,360 --> 01:42:51,080
Speaker 6: have much of a say.

2245
01:42:51,680 --> 01:42:54,280
Speaker 1: My thing is those.

2246
01:42:54,439 --> 01:42:57,400
Speaker 6: Negotiations because you have so many people at the table,

2247
01:42:59,479 --> 01:43:01,960
Speaker 6: those costs a lot of money. But if I can

2248
01:43:02,040 --> 01:43:04,599
Speaker 6: give you something newer and it still has my voice

2249
01:43:04,640 --> 01:43:07,439
Speaker 6: on it, I can. You know, all you got to

2250
01:43:07,479 --> 01:43:09,360
Speaker 6: do is either call me and my representative. Yeah, let's go.

2251
01:43:09,479 --> 01:43:10,720
Speaker 6: Let's you know, let's do it. We'll do it for

2252
01:43:10,800 --> 01:43:14,800
Speaker 6: this money. That money, maybe maybe just performance rights cool,

2253
01:43:15,120 --> 01:43:16,880
Speaker 6: Just get the record out there, just get And I

2254
01:43:16,960 --> 01:43:18,840
Speaker 6: was able to do that literally for half a dozen

2255
01:43:18,880 --> 01:43:19,880
Speaker 6: albums and make the money do.

2256
01:43:20,080 --> 01:43:22,200
Speaker 1: Because he's the part. I don't understand.

2257
01:43:23,640 --> 01:43:26,960
Speaker 4: These these record labels that got dissolved and they don't

2258
01:43:26,960 --> 01:43:32,559
Speaker 4: exist no more. Right, why brought up? So the next

2259
01:43:32,560 --> 01:43:35,120
Speaker 4: person that buys that, Yeah, oh if.

2260
01:43:35,240 --> 01:43:37,360
Speaker 6: If your Rose Wars gets repoted, it's not gonna stay

2261
01:43:37,360 --> 01:43:38,559
Speaker 6: on the street, damn.

2262
01:43:39,000 --> 01:43:41,840
Speaker 5: You see what I'm saying, Like somebody or somebody with

2263
01:43:42,040 --> 01:43:43,840
Speaker 5: some money is going to be like either I'm gonna

2264
01:43:43,840 --> 01:43:45,439
Speaker 5: fix it up for myself, I'm gonna sell it, or

2265
01:43:45,439 --> 01:43:46,000
Speaker 5: it's gonna just be.

2266
01:43:47,960 --> 01:43:48,479
Speaker 1: It's gonna be.

2267
01:43:48,479 --> 01:43:50,599
Speaker 6: Part of my garage when the cameras go buy even

2268
01:43:50,640 --> 01:43:53,040
Speaker 6: though I can't drive it somebody's gonna do something with it.

2269
01:43:53,120 --> 01:43:53,920
Speaker 1: Damn. I never looked at it.

2270
01:43:54,160 --> 01:43:57,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I never looked at it, because you know, it's

2271
01:43:57,200 --> 01:44:02,080
Speaker 4: crazy with my records. When the labels get sold, what

2272
01:44:02,360 --> 01:44:06,799
Speaker 4: happens is one of my most sampled records in the movies.

2273
01:44:08,080 --> 01:44:11,320
Speaker 4: For Rell produced them, so for real would negotiate for

2274
01:44:11,400 --> 01:44:12,880
Speaker 4: me instead of the labels.

2275
01:44:12,960 --> 01:44:14,800
Speaker 1: I didn't even know, Like you just taught me that.

2276
01:44:14,920 --> 01:44:16,280
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't even know that.

2277
01:44:16,320 --> 01:44:18,599
Speaker 4: That's a little a little scary. Well maybe you said

2278
01:44:18,760 --> 01:44:21,760
Speaker 4: entourage to they got me too. Oh yeah, but they

2279
01:44:21,840 --> 01:44:22,080
Speaker 4: got me.

2280
01:44:22,760 --> 01:44:25,120
Speaker 5: But big up to, big up to Mark on that

2281
01:44:25,200 --> 01:44:27,599
Speaker 5: because no, he he put in a record called Feel

2282
01:44:27,640 --> 01:44:29,880
Speaker 5: the Love, which is a record that I produced, I

2283
01:44:30,040 --> 01:44:32,439
Speaker 5: have one hundred percent of and it just literally went

2284
01:44:32,520 --> 01:44:36,400
Speaker 5: to my my, my publishing rep. And you know, ye,

2285
01:44:36,439 --> 01:44:36,920
Speaker 5: I'll give you this.

2286
01:44:37,200 --> 01:44:41,080
Speaker 1: You knew, you knew, would you know? When he was

2287
01:44:41,160 --> 01:44:44,680
Speaker 1: Mark Mark? When he heard my play, I was like, oh,

2288
01:44:45,880 --> 01:44:48,639
Speaker 1: you know, they ain't negotiate with me at all?

2289
01:44:48,760 --> 01:44:51,800
Speaker 5: And in all finished, that's that's happened with me before, Like.

2290
01:44:53,560 --> 01:44:54,320
Speaker 1: What was it? Uh?

2291
01:44:55,040 --> 01:44:58,680
Speaker 6: Blindside? I have I have connections with a lot of

2292
01:45:01,040 --> 01:45:02,839
Speaker 6: pr companies that work with the movie studios.

2293
01:45:03,200 --> 01:45:03,840
Speaker 5: So I had a rep.

2294
01:45:03,960 --> 01:45:05,400
Speaker 6: They said, oh, you need to come to this blind

2295
01:45:05,479 --> 01:45:08,080
Speaker 6: Side preview. I didn't know that the song was in

2296
01:45:08,120 --> 01:45:11,160
Speaker 6: the movie. Hasn't really integral scene before they get in

2297
01:45:11,200 --> 01:45:14,200
Speaker 6: the car accident of the little little white kid and

2298
01:45:14,320 --> 01:45:16,760
Speaker 6: and and the football player going back and forth doing

2299
01:45:16,840 --> 01:45:17,360
Speaker 6: my lyrics.

2300
01:45:17,960 --> 01:45:20,400
Speaker 5: Just really if you look at it, it's really amazing.

2301
01:45:20,520 --> 01:45:22,519
Speaker 7: And they didn't tell you that prior to No. Well,

2302
01:45:22,680 --> 01:45:24,760
Speaker 7: it's not that they don't have to negotiate with me.

2303
01:45:25,160 --> 01:45:25,479
Speaker 1: They don't.

2304
01:45:25,520 --> 01:45:28,800
Speaker 6: They don't have to ask me releast pre reversion. Yeah,

2305
01:45:29,600 --> 01:45:31,840
Speaker 6: having said that, you might get a little worried and

2306
01:45:31,920 --> 01:45:33,080
Speaker 6: be like, oh, what if they put you in something

2307
01:45:33,160 --> 01:45:35,120
Speaker 6: racist whatever whatever they were on the ride with me,

2308
01:45:35,600 --> 01:45:36,760
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. So they put it in

2309
01:45:36,840 --> 01:45:40,720
Speaker 6: something stupid that's costing them more money too. So I've

2310
01:45:40,880 --> 01:45:43,120
Speaker 6: just been cool with that. And now, like I said,

2311
01:45:43,160 --> 01:45:45,160
Speaker 6: things are, things are shifting and I and you know,

2312
01:45:45,200 --> 01:45:45,559
Speaker 6: I'm good.

2313
01:45:46,520 --> 01:45:50,400
Speaker 4: Let's make some noise for that. Thank We're still on

2314
01:45:50,520 --> 01:45:55,360
Speaker 4: quick chop of slat no no, because we learned a lot, right,

2315
01:45:55,600 --> 01:45:59,720
Speaker 4: Uh you got it? Run DMC or the treacherous three

2316
01:46:01,560 --> 01:46:04,599
Speaker 4: Run DMC, Dude, run DMC. I can't even treachers three

2317
01:46:05,360 --> 01:46:07,560
Speaker 4: inspired me when I was when I was younger, but

2318
01:46:07,680 --> 01:46:09,679
Speaker 4: I couldn't tell you where they were from. I couldn't

2319
01:46:09,720 --> 01:46:12,080
Speaker 4: tell you all the you know, I mean coolm ol

2320
01:46:12,120 --> 01:46:19,519
Speaker 4: D obviously a friend run DMC just changed so much,

2321
01:46:19,840 --> 01:46:21,639
Speaker 4: especially me as an artist that had a big record

2322
01:46:21,680 --> 01:46:24,479
Speaker 4: that crossed over and the like. Plus I grew up

2323
01:46:24,520 --> 01:46:27,280
Speaker 4: on once again one hundred ninth and two eleventh so

2324
01:46:27,520 --> 01:46:30,040
Speaker 4: I could walk a few But jm Aster J got

2325
01:46:30,160 --> 01:46:33,080
Speaker 4: his haircut at the barbershop down the street from my

2326
01:46:33,120 --> 01:46:34,519
Speaker 4: house Addison to eleventh.

2327
01:46:34,680 --> 01:46:36,760
Speaker 6: There was a barbershop. Jamster Jay got his haircut there.

2328
01:46:37,040 --> 01:46:39,320
Speaker 6: So that's that's childhood that's influenced.

2329
01:46:40,000 --> 01:46:40,360
Speaker 1: I did it.

2330
01:46:40,439 --> 01:46:45,040
Speaker 5: I did it a private with DMC last year. Amazing, dude,

2331
01:46:45,200 --> 01:46:47,439
Speaker 5: just I mean, just you want to do.

2332
01:46:47,479 --> 01:46:48,280
Speaker 1: In a story.

2333
01:46:51,840 --> 01:46:55,920
Speaker 6: Mark Mark from Sugar Ray it was one of his

2334
01:46:56,040 --> 01:47:00,840
Speaker 6: good friends. So Mark McGrath, sorry, the must be getting

2335
01:47:00,880 --> 01:47:04,920
Speaker 6: a contact. Mark McGrath put on a show with me

2336
01:47:05,920 --> 01:47:10,120
Speaker 6: Tone Loak. He was playing and then DMC was playing.

2337
01:47:14,640 --> 01:47:17,840
Speaker 6: Mark McGrath and d m C did fight for your

2338
01:47:17,880 --> 01:47:21,240
Speaker 6: right to party. And when I say, and this is

2339
01:47:21,680 --> 01:47:23,680
Speaker 6: maybe maybe two hundred people, I don't even know. It's

2340
01:47:23,680 --> 01:47:27,799
Speaker 6: in a restaurant McGee. If you know the movie movie director,

2341
01:47:27,800 --> 01:47:31,280
Speaker 6: it is his restaurant in Huntington Beach or something like that.

2342
01:47:32,160 --> 01:47:34,160
Speaker 6: But I taped it all and I chose, I'm like,

2343
01:47:34,200 --> 01:47:35,960
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna post any of this. This is just

2344
01:47:36,080 --> 01:47:38,800
Speaker 6: I literally was standing three three people back from the

2345
01:47:38,840 --> 01:47:40,479
Speaker 6: stage taping and saying, I'm just going to be a

2346
01:47:40,560 --> 01:47:45,120
Speaker 6: fan of night. So to go from Hollis to seeing

2347
01:47:45,200 --> 01:47:49,760
Speaker 6: something like that, it's like, dmc is. You know, he's

2348
01:47:49,800 --> 01:47:50,960
Speaker 6: an economy.

2349
01:47:52,360 --> 01:47:58,920
Speaker 1: All of us. D excuse me, he's a dream. Cancelone night.

2350
01:47:59,000 --> 01:48:03,679
Speaker 7: Oh okay, biz Marky or odb oh, biz Marquis, dude,

2351
01:48:03,680 --> 01:48:04,880
Speaker 7: bis a man.

2352
01:48:05,120 --> 01:48:06,680
Speaker 6: This is once again you talk about the rest in

2353
01:48:06,720 --> 01:48:10,479
Speaker 6: peace Bismarqui. We did it, yes, rest in peace both.

2354
01:48:10,520 --> 01:48:10,960
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.

2355
01:48:13,120 --> 01:48:16,799
Speaker 6: Biz Marquis did probably one hundred hundred and fifty nineties

2356
01:48:16,880 --> 01:48:21,040
Speaker 6: shows with me, so in Biz Marquis, I don't Me

2357
01:48:21,160 --> 01:48:23,960
Speaker 6: and m Walk had this discussion. We didn't realize that

2358
01:48:24,040 --> 01:48:27,400
Speaker 6: we both were in the New Music Seminar in nineteen

2359
01:48:28,080 --> 01:48:32,919
Speaker 6: eighty eight. I think KD has sent him and Delicious

2360
01:48:32,960 --> 01:48:35,719
Speaker 6: Vinyl has sent me and I went up I forget

2361
01:48:35,720 --> 01:48:37,080
Speaker 6: who I went up against, but I know it was

2362
01:48:37,120 --> 01:48:41,040
Speaker 6: better than him, but I still lost. Biz marquis out

2363
01:48:41,080 --> 01:48:43,040
Speaker 6: of all and he's an idol of mine. At the time,

2364
01:48:43,080 --> 01:48:44,640
Speaker 6: bis Marque came up to me and say, you know

2365
01:48:44,720 --> 01:48:46,920
Speaker 6: you won that battle. I'm just letting you know I

2366
01:48:47,080 --> 01:48:50,519
Speaker 6: saw that you won that battle. Thank you, Biz, you

2367
01:48:50,560 --> 01:48:52,800
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. And we get to talking and

2368
01:48:53,960 --> 01:48:57,080
Speaker 6: watching one of the greatest experiences I had. It did

2369
01:48:57,120 --> 01:49:02,480
Speaker 6: a halftime for the Carolina Panthers, myself, Rob based Bismarcky.

2370
01:49:03,760 --> 01:49:06,040
Speaker 6: I want to say, Rob went first and I went second,

2371
01:49:06,080 --> 01:49:08,320
Speaker 6: and they broke into you got what I need? And

2372
01:49:08,439 --> 01:49:10,720
Speaker 6: the loudest response from the crowd, regardless of how much

2373
01:49:10,720 --> 01:49:13,519
Speaker 6: bust to Move and the other records we're sold, people

2374
01:49:13,600 --> 01:49:14,720
Speaker 6: responding to you got what I need?

2375
01:49:14,760 --> 01:49:16,600
Speaker 5: With Bismarkey up there at a halftime.

2376
01:49:16,439 --> 01:49:19,439
Speaker 1: It's amazing. So it's rest and peace of both.

2377
01:49:19,600 --> 01:49:26,240
Speaker 6: Yes, Sir Trench or red Man Tretch, Tretch for God

2378
01:49:27,280 --> 01:49:29,599
Speaker 6: for so many reasons, like once again, like I said,

2379
01:49:29,600 --> 01:49:31,040
Speaker 6: you go through highs and lows in the business and

2380
01:49:31,080 --> 01:49:40,640
Speaker 6: the like. Tretch has always been kind, supportive, positive with me,

2381
01:49:41,400 --> 01:49:45,040
Speaker 6: like he appreciates what I do. You know what I do,

2382
01:49:45,160 --> 01:49:49,400
Speaker 6: what I've been through as an artist, Naughty isn't going

2383
01:49:49,439 --> 01:49:52,639
Speaker 6: out together anymore, right, so Tretch is going out himself.

2384
01:49:54,320 --> 01:49:57,040
Speaker 6: When Trench was was gonna go solo and start doing

2385
01:49:57,120 --> 01:49:59,880
Speaker 6: this thing, it almost makes me tear up. He can

2386
01:50:00,280 --> 01:50:04,400
Speaker 6: to me and was asking me questions about being a

2387
01:50:04,479 --> 01:50:07,559
Speaker 6: solo artist on stage, being the only one without anybody

2388
01:50:07,640 --> 01:50:09,720
Speaker 6: passing on and you know whatever, passing back and forth

2389
01:50:09,760 --> 01:50:11,960
Speaker 6: and whatever. And we had a legit discussion about that,

2390
01:50:12,439 --> 01:50:14,760
Speaker 6: and I'm hoping that I helped him with that. He's

2391
01:50:15,080 --> 01:50:19,200
Speaker 6: he's amazing solo now. But Tretch is a dude that

2392
01:50:19,960 --> 01:50:24,240
Speaker 6: it's like, whenever I see him, it's good.

2393
01:50:24,920 --> 01:50:27,559
Speaker 1: He's a top TIERMC. Oh yeah, no, if you hear.

2394
01:50:27,600 --> 01:50:30,400
Speaker 6: Because I'm an Eminem fan, when you hear what Eminem

2395
01:50:30,439 --> 01:50:32,680
Speaker 6: says about Tretch that even with my eyes more where

2396
01:50:32,720 --> 01:50:35,160
Speaker 6: I go back and listen and say, because Eminem has

2397
01:50:35,240 --> 01:50:38,200
Speaker 6: done stuff that has inspired me in terms of what's

2398
01:50:38,280 --> 01:50:42,559
Speaker 6: possible lyrically, but he Eminem says a lot about about

2399
01:50:42,600 --> 01:50:43,680
Speaker 6: Tretch doing that for him.

2400
01:50:44,200 --> 01:50:46,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think tretches Overloo because he's in a group,

2401
01:50:46,320 --> 01:50:48,519
Speaker 3: but he's an LMC by himself.

2402
01:50:48,760 --> 01:50:50,640
Speaker 7: Well that's the thing I mean, and he wrote so

2403
01:50:50,760 --> 01:50:56,519
Speaker 7: much of it. Yeah, yeah, definitely Okay kress or Coolgi

2404
01:50:56,640 --> 01:50:57,600
Speaker 7: rap O.

2405
01:50:57,720 --> 01:51:05,439
Speaker 6: Krs krus I actually did Sli and Robbie the Jamaican duo.

2406
01:51:06,680 --> 01:51:08,840
Speaker 6: Jamaica's not tonight. We've been waiting for it.

2407
01:51:08,960 --> 01:51:09,160
Speaker 1: I did.

2408
01:51:09,280 --> 01:51:09,559
Speaker 3: I just.

2409
01:51:11,920 --> 01:51:20,240
Speaker 5: I did, Yeah, Ponder River.

2410
01:51:22,920 --> 01:51:27,320
Speaker 6: I did two records which line Robbie called Living a

2411
01:51:27,400 --> 01:51:30,840
Speaker 6: Lion under Arrest, to the point where when I went

2412
01:51:30,880 --> 01:51:33,120
Speaker 6: overseas and I was doing Bust to Move, people were

2413
01:51:33,160 --> 01:51:37,240
Speaker 6: calling for those records in Germany. Both of those records

2414
01:51:37,280 --> 01:51:40,200
Speaker 6: were produced by kr S one and and and and

2415
01:51:41,400 --> 01:51:45,320
Speaker 6: those songs almost didn't happen because there was there was

2416
01:51:45,439 --> 01:51:47,400
Speaker 6: legal stuff with Delicious not wanting me to do it,

2417
01:51:47,640 --> 01:51:50,559
Speaker 6: but I was fighting for it. They knew my Jamaican background,

2418
01:51:51,640 --> 01:51:55,160
Speaker 6: krs knew my Jamaican background, and I had done nothing

2419
01:51:55,439 --> 01:51:57,600
Speaker 6: in terms of outside other than maybe same gang. I

2420
01:51:57,600 --> 01:51:59,479
Speaker 6: don't even know what came first, but I just had

2421
01:51:59,520 --> 01:52:04,200
Speaker 6: that not done much outside of Delicious and Yeah, Living

2422
01:52:04,240 --> 01:52:07,240
Speaker 6: a Line under Arrest Island records produced by Terrists one

2423
01:52:07,280 --> 01:52:07,920
Speaker 6: Slam Robbie.

2424
01:52:09,680 --> 01:52:12,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have to I love this history.

2425
01:52:12,840 --> 01:52:15,519
Speaker 6: I'm thankful for this because I never get to discuss

2426
01:52:16,280 --> 01:52:17,600
Speaker 6: a lot of this stuff like you have.

2427
01:52:17,760 --> 01:52:19,519
Speaker 5: You bring it up and I'm like, oh, yeah, you

2428
01:52:19,640 --> 01:52:22,400
Speaker 5: didn't do that, like thirty seven years didn't go for nothing.

2429
01:52:22,200 --> 01:52:24,719
Speaker 4: Because you know why these young dudes they put everything

2430
01:52:24,760 --> 01:52:25,400
Speaker 4: on Instagram.

2431
01:52:25,600 --> 01:52:30,439
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah, but that makes you nothing at all. Everything.

2432
01:52:30,920 --> 01:52:32,920
Speaker 4: But I said, I always say that, I say, yo,

2433
01:52:33,000 --> 01:52:39,000
Speaker 4: I love interviewing people that didn't have Instagram, Like I love.

2434
01:52:38,880 --> 01:52:45,000
Speaker 1: That, Okay, DMX a big pun rest and peace of both.

2435
01:52:48,160 --> 01:52:48,559
Speaker 5: I didn't.

2436
01:52:48,640 --> 01:52:51,200
Speaker 6: I never met either one of them. My man wants

2437
01:52:51,240 --> 01:53:03,760
Speaker 6: to drink too, Larry. I will say DMX, and I

2438
01:53:03,840 --> 01:53:07,439
Speaker 6: say DMX for this reason. Of every MC that has

2439
01:53:07,479 --> 01:53:11,160
Speaker 6: ever picked up a microphone, nobody improves the quantity of

2440
01:53:11,240 --> 01:53:15,599
Speaker 6: a beat like DMX DMX. DMX could could run over

2441
01:53:15,680 --> 01:53:21,240
Speaker 6: a finger snap and it slaps. That's DMX, never met

2442
01:53:21,320 --> 01:53:23,519
Speaker 6: him whatever, you know, all the stuff around.

2443
01:53:24,400 --> 01:53:25,240
Speaker 5: That's what I try and do.

2444
01:53:25,320 --> 01:53:27,439
Speaker 6: It's so amazing to me how many of my friends

2445
01:53:27,560 --> 01:53:29,200
Speaker 6: or people go, oh, I make tracks for it because

2446
01:53:29,240 --> 01:53:31,000
Speaker 6: everybody wants to run over my tracks. Is I have

2447
01:53:31,040 --> 01:53:33,600
Speaker 6: an ability to at least take your track to a

2448
01:53:33,680 --> 01:53:37,120
Speaker 6: certain level. DMX could take any track to the highest

2449
01:53:37,200 --> 01:53:38,920
Speaker 6: level from an MC.

2450
01:53:39,360 --> 01:53:43,240
Speaker 1: Here in that his style, his approach, the passion he

2451
01:53:43,320 --> 01:53:43,760
Speaker 1: brings to the.

2452
01:53:44,080 --> 01:53:47,360
Speaker 5: Unparalleled no one else could do it, so it's got

2453
01:53:47,439 --> 01:53:47,720
Speaker 5: got to be.

2454
01:53:53,160 --> 01:53:54,800
Speaker 1: You. You know, that's probably the only thing.

2455
01:53:55,600 --> 01:53:58,400
Speaker 4: He said it just now, like and I know we're

2456
01:53:58,400 --> 01:54:01,120
Speaker 4: going to try to get Scott Storch for in a second,

2457
01:54:01,439 --> 01:54:04,960
Speaker 4: but but he said it just now. I really literally

2458
01:54:05,479 --> 01:54:07,840
Speaker 4: looked at my phone, caught the your max and I

2459
01:54:08,120 --> 01:54:10,640
Speaker 4: just forgot you know what I'm saying that.

2460
01:54:11,200 --> 01:54:12,560
Speaker 5: You know, you know what you know, it's hard to

2461
01:54:12,640 --> 01:54:14,639
Speaker 5: be honest. Do you want to erase?

2462
01:54:16,720 --> 01:54:16,960
Speaker 3: And then?

2463
01:54:17,120 --> 01:54:19,600
Speaker 4: And then so I'll type let you finish, because the

2464
01:54:19,680 --> 01:54:23,439
Speaker 4: fans is going to say, I don't erase my dad

2465
01:54:23,479 --> 01:54:25,960
Speaker 4: at homies numbers. I don't know why. I have a

2466
01:54:26,040 --> 01:54:29,360
Speaker 4: cousin I don't And it was crazy my bathroot you.

2467
01:54:30,040 --> 01:54:33,680
Speaker 4: But you know, it's crazy sometimes if you know, you know,

2468
01:54:33,800 --> 01:54:36,560
Speaker 4: your ghost dial or hate somebody by mistake, and then

2469
01:54:36,600 --> 01:54:37,400
Speaker 4: they'll start talking.

2470
01:54:37,520 --> 01:54:38,880
Speaker 1: You realize that this.

2471
01:54:38,960 --> 01:54:42,400
Speaker 4: Person that's that's they took your homies number, that's not

2472
01:54:42,480 --> 01:54:43,480
Speaker 4: even who you're talking to.

2473
01:54:43,880 --> 01:54:46,120
Speaker 1: So that's it is scary. I have a cousin about

2474
01:54:46,160 --> 01:54:46,680
Speaker 1: how we got here.

2475
01:54:46,880 --> 01:54:50,400
Speaker 6: I have a cousin named Colin who lives in Baltimore.

2476
01:54:51,080 --> 01:54:55,400
Speaker 6: So we touch, you know, touch base text, you know,

2477
01:54:55,800 --> 01:54:58,480
Speaker 6: holidays whatever. But I'll type CEO and I'll see Coolio

2478
01:54:58,560 --> 01:55:02,080
Speaker 6: come up, and I'm like, you know what I mean, I'm.

2479
01:55:01,960 --> 01:55:04,600
Speaker 5: Not gonna take it out. It hurts me to see it.

2480
01:55:04,960 --> 01:55:07,640
Speaker 5: But that's my man in my phone.

2481
01:55:07,920 --> 01:55:08,360
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

2482
01:55:08,440 --> 01:55:11,040
Speaker 1: But yeah, you ever ever like did what I just said,

2483
01:55:11,120 --> 01:55:15,560
Speaker 1: like ghost Texas somebody? Dude? You know, there's a lot

2484
01:55:15,600 --> 01:55:19,960
Speaker 1: of in my phone like like like you know, like

2485
01:55:21,280 --> 01:55:21,480
Speaker 1: it down.

2486
01:55:21,480 --> 01:55:23,600
Speaker 4: That's how I said ghost bad it's plucking out. And

2487
01:55:24,200 --> 01:55:25,880
Speaker 4: when I was looking, I look and I'll see somebody

2488
01:55:26,040 --> 01:55:29,160
Speaker 4: like usually I know, been dead for ten years. Yeah,

2489
01:55:29,800 --> 01:55:32,000
Speaker 4: and the answer because you got to you gotta remember

2490
01:55:32,120 --> 01:55:34,880
Speaker 4: that number, like you said, but the Rose voice that number.

2491
01:55:35,160 --> 01:55:38,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, someone else policies up and and uses it. Sure

2492
01:55:38,480 --> 01:55:39,120
Speaker 1: so that it is.

2493
01:55:39,600 --> 01:55:42,240
Speaker 5: Luckily luckily that hasn't Luckily that hasn't happened to me.

2494
01:55:42,840 --> 01:55:45,600
Speaker 1: God bless, God bless. You want the next one? Yeah?

2495
01:55:46,120 --> 01:55:49,280
Speaker 1: And by the way, what was Charlie's drinking juice? Note

2496
01:55:49,680 --> 01:55:52,760
Speaker 1: you're to drink it. He's running through that bottle. I'm

2497
01:55:52,800 --> 01:55:55,720
Speaker 1: not I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Man. You can

2498
01:55:55,760 --> 01:55:56,000
Speaker 1: try it.

2499
01:55:56,080 --> 01:55:58,400
Speaker 3: Man, it's good. Actually, this is a good batch. Actually,

2500
01:56:01,680 --> 01:56:03,040
Speaker 3: Marvin Gay or Al Green.

2501
01:56:04,480 --> 01:56:06,880
Speaker 5: Wow, y'all could drink.

2502
01:56:07,120 --> 01:56:12,320
Speaker 1: Okay, I like that he's loud and joining us. I

2503
01:56:12,680 --> 01:56:12,920
Speaker 1: like that.

2504
01:56:15,840 --> 01:56:18,360
Speaker 5: Marvin Gay, you know, let's get it on with it

2505
01:56:18,440 --> 01:56:19,200
Speaker 5: in terms of the hits.

2506
01:56:19,240 --> 01:56:23,200
Speaker 6: But Al Green, with me growing as a producer and

2507
01:56:23,400 --> 01:56:26,600
Speaker 6: seeing what some of those records were and what they did,

2508
01:56:27,320 --> 01:56:29,120
Speaker 6: I wasn't as big of an Al Green fan when

2509
01:56:29,160 --> 01:56:31,680
Speaker 6: he was out, But the more I've learned about music,

2510
01:56:31,720 --> 01:56:33,200
Speaker 6: I've become more of an Al Green fan.

2511
01:56:34,440 --> 01:56:36,760
Speaker 1: So yeah, I will say both. I love how he

2512
01:56:37,000 --> 01:56:40,960
Speaker 1: answers everything so musically correct. I love it, Thank you man.

2513
01:56:42,520 --> 01:56:43,520
Speaker 1: He is very accurately.

2514
01:56:43,600 --> 01:56:45,680
Speaker 5: I'm fighting for the drink champ guts that don't drink.

2515
01:56:48,920 --> 01:56:50,600
Speaker 4: We have to put that out of that. The people

2516
01:56:50,640 --> 01:56:56,080
Speaker 4: who don't drink on drink. Money Love or Rock sand Chante.

2517
01:56:57,320 --> 01:56:57,840
Speaker 1: Money Love.

2518
01:56:58,720 --> 01:57:01,640
Speaker 5: Money Love had a cadence and I think she still

2519
01:57:01,680 --> 01:57:02,480
Speaker 5: goes out because I.

2520
01:57:08,840 --> 01:57:14,000
Speaker 6: Mean, up until this current crop of female rappers, for decades,

2521
01:57:14,120 --> 01:57:18,680
Speaker 6: money Love was the most intricate speed rapper as a female,

2522
01:57:19,560 --> 01:57:21,520
Speaker 6: and it was like boom boom, boom boom. They mean

2523
01:57:21,560 --> 01:57:25,560
Speaker 6: there's certain you know, there's certain levels to it, and

2524
01:57:25,680 --> 01:57:27,480
Speaker 6: I try and prod myself on it that regardless of

2525
01:57:27,560 --> 01:57:29,960
Speaker 6: how how fast I rhyme that you can understand me.

2526
01:57:30,400 --> 01:57:33,440
Speaker 6: But money love, money love, money lover is right there.

2527
01:57:33,920 --> 01:57:35,680
Speaker 6: By the way, since we talked about fast rapper, shout

2528
01:57:35,720 --> 01:57:38,280
Speaker 6: out to Twister, Twisted with Twister would be in my

2529
01:57:38,360 --> 01:57:38,720
Speaker 6: top five.

2530
01:57:38,760 --> 01:57:42,600
Speaker 1: But guns but twist a followed duty. Huh when we

2531
01:57:42,720 --> 01:57:44,800
Speaker 1: come to speedwat twist was after you correct.

2532
01:57:44,640 --> 01:57:47,040
Speaker 3: But twisted chip food from the fus niggens.

2533
01:57:47,080 --> 01:57:50,520
Speaker 6: I won't even lie. Twister does stuff with consonants that

2534
01:57:50,560 --> 01:57:52,800
Speaker 6: I've never heard. I mean, there's other guys that come close.

2535
01:57:52,880 --> 01:57:55,880
Speaker 6: But the way he hits some of his syllables.

2536
01:57:55,720 --> 01:58:01,400
Speaker 7: Console nanse like vowels, the opposite of those.

2537
01:58:02,040 --> 01:58:07,160
Speaker 1: Know what that means. It's the opposite of vowel, opposite

2538
01:58:07,200 --> 01:58:07,600
Speaker 1: of vowels.

2539
01:58:08,120 --> 01:58:09,360
Speaker 5: Ask your protot in Queens, you know.

2540
01:58:15,400 --> 01:58:17,520
Speaker 6: But but I will say when I'm when I want

2541
01:58:17,520 --> 01:58:19,880
Speaker 6: to see if my my my rap scale is still

2542
01:58:19,920 --> 01:58:20,160
Speaker 6: on I.

2543
01:58:20,200 --> 01:58:21,120
Speaker 1: Due to pope en verse.

2544
01:58:22,280 --> 01:58:24,560
Speaker 5: Oh okay, well, the motherfucker might be brocused and they

2545
01:58:24,560 --> 01:58:25,360
Speaker 5: can let the no broken this.

2546
01:58:25,480 --> 01:58:27,040
Speaker 6: But I spin Madgate like I'm out for the Pokas

2547
01:58:27,120 --> 01:58:28,320
Speaker 6: just to get the hose with the open list of

2548
01:58:28,360 --> 01:58:29,040
Speaker 6: the provoking hips.

2549
01:58:29,080 --> 01:58:32,280
Speaker 5: And that said, like when I when I do that

2550
01:58:32,400 --> 01:58:34,360
Speaker 5: when when when I hear that, that.

2551
01:58:34,520 --> 01:58:38,440
Speaker 6: Is such a level of artistry and like not just

2552
01:58:38,600 --> 01:58:40,320
Speaker 6: rhyming fast and say I'm rhyming fast, but what he

2553
01:58:40,400 --> 01:58:42,920
Speaker 6: does with cadence, it's like, oh man, it's like just

2554
01:58:43,040 --> 01:58:45,800
Speaker 6: to grab a little of that. And like, like you said,

2555
01:58:45,840 --> 01:58:47,720
Speaker 6: if I wasn't to write to for easy when I'm

2556
01:58:47,800 --> 01:58:50,080
Speaker 6: quoting something like that on mine cursing, Now, Young MC

2557
01:58:50,240 --> 01:58:52,200
Speaker 6: is not gonna curse in his records, you know. But

2558
01:58:52,360 --> 01:58:55,320
Speaker 6: Young MC and Marvin the raft Fann are two different people,

2559
01:58:55,320 --> 01:58:56,000
Speaker 6: that's at times.

2560
01:58:56,080 --> 01:58:59,640
Speaker 7: But go ahead, Big Ei or Big L, Big Eie,

2561
01:59:00,320 --> 01:59:04,320
Speaker 7: Biggie Man, Biggie just and I love Big L, you know,

2562
01:59:04,480 --> 01:59:07,400
Speaker 7: but Biggie, it's just you talk about level of influence,

2563
01:59:08,000 --> 01:59:11,120
Speaker 7: and especially Biggie was blowing up at a time when

2564
01:59:11,280 --> 01:59:15,720
Speaker 7: when other regions were dominating you you would know, being

2565
01:59:16,080 --> 01:59:17,560
Speaker 7: being from the East Coast, So there was a time

2566
01:59:17,600 --> 01:59:21,560
Speaker 7: when Biggie was representing the East Coast, especially in records

2567
01:59:21,600 --> 01:59:23,000
Speaker 7: that crossing.

2568
01:59:23,080 --> 01:59:25,720
Speaker 6: I mean, he was, you know, flagwaving for bad Boy

2569
01:59:25,760 --> 01:59:29,640
Speaker 6: and all that that. You know, they I gotta respect that.

2570
01:59:29,960 --> 01:59:31,400
Speaker 1: That's real, that's real.

2571
01:59:31,880 --> 01:59:32,800
Speaker 3: This is a good one right here.

2572
01:59:33,280 --> 01:59:37,080
Speaker 1: You ticket there, drink champs, uh favorite Prince or MJ.

2573
01:59:38,080 --> 01:59:39,720
Speaker 1: If you've got stories, we want them.

2574
01:59:40,120 --> 01:59:42,880
Speaker 6: Okay, before I give the answer, I'll give you the

2575
01:59:42,920 --> 01:59:44,480
Speaker 6: stories and I'll i'll say I love that.

2576
01:59:44,680 --> 01:59:45,360
Speaker 1: Let's get it to it.

2577
01:59:45,840 --> 01:59:48,160
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm gonna pick one.

2578
01:59:48,360 --> 01:59:48,840
Speaker 1: So I'm sorry.

2579
01:59:48,880 --> 01:59:50,600
Speaker 5: If y'all want to drink now just to drink, y'all can,

2580
01:59:50,680 --> 01:59:51,800
Speaker 5: but I'm gonna pick one drink.

2581
01:59:52,000 --> 01:59:53,480
Speaker 1: We'll get a regular drink. Jamie.

2582
01:59:57,080 --> 01:59:59,720
Speaker 6: Right when Heavy Heavy D had guested on a Michael

2583
01:59:59,760 --> 02:00:04,960
Speaker 6: jack track, and around that time, I don't think it

2584
02:00:05,040 --> 02:00:08,440
Speaker 6: was the same track, but around that time I had

2585
02:00:08,480 --> 02:00:11,040
Speaker 6: gotten you know, I had heard that there was some

2586
02:00:11,200 --> 02:00:13,640
Speaker 6: interest in me guesting on a Michael Jackson track, and

2587
02:00:13,760 --> 02:00:16,160
Speaker 6: my manager at the time was trying to get money.

2588
02:00:15,960 --> 02:00:18,760
Speaker 1: Out of him, out of Michael Jackson, out.

2589
02:00:18,400 --> 02:00:21,480
Speaker 6: Of Michael Jackson's camp, because I was getting paid for everything, whatever, whatever,

2590
02:00:21,600 --> 02:00:25,840
Speaker 6: and I never was able to get into it where

2591
02:00:25,920 --> 02:00:27,440
Speaker 6: I could say, y'all all do it for free, just

2592
02:00:27,520 --> 02:00:29,960
Speaker 6: for the look or whatever. That's one of our biggest regrets,

2593
02:00:30,600 --> 02:00:34,680
Speaker 6: because I'm not big on guesting, but there's certain things

2594
02:00:34,720 --> 02:00:37,920
Speaker 6: that where if you're gonna guess, you just do it. Michael, Yeah,

2595
02:00:38,640 --> 02:00:43,760
Speaker 6: so and obviously I mean, thriller off the Wall, just musically,

2596
02:00:44,000 --> 02:00:50,160
Speaker 6: just amazing. So you're saying front Michael Jackson just like, well,

2597
02:00:50,200 --> 02:00:52,320
Speaker 6: that's part of the reason. I don't know, that's part

2598
02:00:52,320 --> 02:00:53,800
Speaker 6: of the reason I reap myself.

2599
02:00:53,920 --> 02:00:56,360
Speaker 5: Now they won't be me.

2600
02:00:56,840 --> 02:00:57,360
Speaker 1: And that's the thing.

2601
02:00:57,400 --> 02:00:58,680
Speaker 5: By the way, you would know it was an artist

2602
02:00:59,000 --> 02:01:00,600
Speaker 5: if you said this so nicely.

2603
02:01:00,680 --> 02:01:03,520
Speaker 1: But it's like if you if you're manager, Michael.

2604
02:01:04,200 --> 02:01:06,640
Speaker 6: If you're manager, somebody in your camp, okay, makes a

2605
02:01:06,720 --> 02:01:09,120
Speaker 6: decision you don't agree with. Then it comes back and

2606
02:01:09,160 --> 02:01:10,520
Speaker 6: people are pointing at you because you're the.

2607
02:01:10,520 --> 02:01:10,960
Speaker 5: Face of it.

2608
02:01:11,080 --> 02:01:12,440
Speaker 1: That is a fact, you know what I'm saying. That

2609
02:01:12,600 --> 02:01:13,000
Speaker 1: is a fact.

2610
02:01:13,040 --> 02:01:14,680
Speaker 5: That's what I wanted to kind of avoid.

2611
02:01:14,920 --> 02:01:17,520
Speaker 1: So you're telling me Mike called management.

2612
02:01:17,800 --> 02:01:19,880
Speaker 5: I don't know if Mike co management, but there was

2613
02:01:19,920 --> 02:01:20,400
Speaker 5: Mike's team.

2614
02:01:21,000 --> 02:01:26,200
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, well, yes, Mike's teams called and what did

2615
02:01:26,280 --> 02:01:26,840
Speaker 1: they like?

2616
02:01:26,960 --> 02:01:27,400
Speaker 5: I don't know.

2617
02:01:27,520 --> 02:01:29,720
Speaker 6: No, No, it all got to me later. Okay, it

2618
02:01:29,800 --> 02:01:31,480
Speaker 6: all got to me. I'm out touring, I'm out, you

2619
02:01:31,520 --> 02:01:33,440
Speaker 6: know what I mean. Oh got to me later that

2620
02:01:33,560 --> 02:01:35,560
Speaker 6: it didn't happen, but it could have happened.

2621
02:01:35,720 --> 02:01:38,040
Speaker 3: To be fair to your team, they probably like Michael Jackson.

2622
02:01:38,120 --> 02:01:40,720
Speaker 1: There's money here, there's a Michael's not gonna do.

2623
02:01:40,760 --> 02:01:42,640
Speaker 3: Something for free for somebody else, right, So let's just

2624
02:01:42,720 --> 02:01:45,840
Speaker 3: make a business for any young artist or any artists

2625
02:01:45,840 --> 02:01:50,520
Speaker 3: listening right now. Evaluate the artist that's asking, and this

2626
02:01:50,600 --> 02:01:52,680
Speaker 3: is for the team the artist, because.

2627
02:01:52,440 --> 02:01:55,160
Speaker 1: For you, you would have made that money one hundred

2628
02:01:55,200 --> 02:01:57,800
Speaker 1: folds over the shine. The shine is a shine.

2629
02:01:58,000 --> 02:01:59,760
Speaker 3: Or if you had the publishing on whatever you did

2630
02:01:59,800 --> 02:02:03,040
Speaker 3: on or or performing the record or whatever, you would

2631
02:02:03,080 --> 02:02:03,800
Speaker 3: have made that money.

2632
02:02:03,920 --> 02:02:08,280
Speaker 6: That's the thing, especially looking back now, there was a

2633
02:02:08,360 --> 02:02:11,920
Speaker 6: time when people had longer attention spans where if you

2634
02:02:12,080 --> 02:02:15,360
Speaker 6: just did your guest spots, you know, your your get

2635
02:02:15,440 --> 02:02:17,400
Speaker 6: your guest verses on records, it would seem like a

2636
02:02:17,480 --> 02:02:20,640
Speaker 6: choppy show. Now, if you were to just go do

2637
02:02:20,760 --> 02:02:23,200
Speaker 6: your guest verses and they were all known, that'd be

2638
02:02:23,280 --> 02:02:25,440
Speaker 6: a that'd be a banging show, especially the younger people.

2639
02:02:26,000 --> 02:02:28,160
Speaker 6: So to think that like I could I could pull

2640
02:02:28,200 --> 02:02:30,480
Speaker 6: a verse out from Michael Jackson record the same way

2641
02:02:30,480 --> 02:02:31,680
Speaker 6: I could pull out my verse from all.

2642
02:02:31,600 --> 02:02:33,200
Speaker 5: In the same gang and just throw it up and

2643
02:02:33,200 --> 02:02:35,600
Speaker 5: people would know it. Come on, man, come on.

2644
02:02:36,280 --> 02:02:41,840
Speaker 6: So that's Michael Jackson Prince playing all the instruments Prince.

2645
02:02:42,040 --> 02:02:44,000
Speaker 5: I met him, met him, he.

2646
02:02:44,080 --> 02:02:49,840
Speaker 1: Knew who I was. Dude tuned in though both of

2647
02:02:49,880 --> 02:02:52,800
Speaker 1: them were. Problem is this ass out prince or this

2648
02:02:52,960 --> 02:02:53,680
Speaker 1: regular prince?

2649
02:02:54,400 --> 02:02:56,240
Speaker 5: He didn't. He didn't have his ass out when I.

2650
02:02:56,240 --> 02:02:58,520
Speaker 1: Saw let's let's continue. That's right.

2651
02:02:59,600 --> 02:03:04,040
Speaker 6: I'm in Larrby West b off of I think Santa

2652
02:03:04,080 --> 02:03:07,000
Speaker 6: Monica and he's in Larrby West A. So I saw

2653
02:03:07,080 --> 02:03:09,480
Speaker 6: him in the studio I see I think it was

2654
02:03:09,600 --> 02:03:13,400
Speaker 6: bar one. I see him in I'm not sure.

2655
02:03:13,240 --> 02:03:14,960
Speaker 5: If he made it to Roxbury. I was in Roxbury

2656
02:03:15,000 --> 02:03:15,520
Speaker 5: four nights.

2657
02:03:15,400 --> 02:03:15,760
Speaker 1: A week when.

2658
02:03:16,800 --> 02:03:21,240
Speaker 6: But yeah, and it just just inspiration. Actually I did

2659
02:03:21,280 --> 02:03:23,080
Speaker 6: see him in roxs Yeah, I did see him in Roxbury.

2660
02:03:23,160 --> 02:03:24,880
Speaker 4: Okay, So now when you're say in Roxbury you took

2661
02:03:24,920 --> 02:03:27,760
Speaker 4: him about the club that's iconic club.

2662
02:03:28,120 --> 02:03:28,800
Speaker 5: Now here's the funny.

2663
02:03:30,520 --> 02:03:31,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I.

2664
02:03:34,400 --> 02:03:35,240
Speaker 5: Live, I live.

2665
02:03:35,520 --> 02:03:37,760
Speaker 1: I lived less than a mile away.

2666
02:03:37,880 --> 02:03:40,879
Speaker 6: Maybe, I mean I was at Santa Monica and Roxbury

2667
02:03:41,000 --> 02:03:43,360
Speaker 6: was at sunset. So part of the reason I never

2668
02:03:43,360 --> 02:03:46,120
Speaker 6: got in any crazy trouble was that one I would,

2669
02:03:46,280 --> 02:03:47,480
Speaker 6: you know, leave early, you.

2670
02:03:47,520 --> 02:03:48,880
Speaker 5: Know, because home was close.

2671
02:03:48,920 --> 02:03:50,720
Speaker 6: But if someone said, oh we're going to this person's house,

2672
02:03:51,320 --> 02:03:54,240
Speaker 6: most times that person's house was further away from Roxbury

2673
02:03:54,320 --> 02:03:56,240
Speaker 6: than my house was, so me going to my house

2674
02:03:56,280 --> 02:03:59,400
Speaker 6: would be closer than going deep into Beverly Hills and

2675
02:03:59,400 --> 02:04:00,400
Speaker 6: getting into whatever trouble.

2676
02:04:00,480 --> 02:04:02,760
Speaker 5: So I just went home. But e Lee was a

2677
02:04:02,840 --> 02:04:04,760
Speaker 5: good friend. Tia Carrera.

2678
02:04:06,000 --> 02:04:08,640
Speaker 6: Absolutely, I would be in Roxbury a lot, and they

2679
02:04:08,640 --> 02:04:11,480
Speaker 6: would you know, when when certain public events happened, and

2680
02:04:11,520 --> 02:04:13,120
Speaker 6: all lot of just to see the reactions that people

2681
02:04:13,160 --> 02:04:15,880
Speaker 6: I'd see in there, I mean Our Sinio would be

2682
02:04:16,040 --> 02:04:17,919
Speaker 6: you know, up and there, and they formed a relationship

2683
02:04:17,920 --> 02:04:19,600
Speaker 6: with him and be on his show. The All in

2684
02:04:19,680 --> 02:04:22,200
Speaker 6: the Same Gang appearance on Our Sinio. That to me

2685
02:04:22,360 --> 02:04:25,600
Speaker 6: is an iconic moment, you know what I mean. So yeah,

2686
02:04:25,600 --> 02:04:27,000
Speaker 6: I mean just yeah, yeah.

2687
02:04:27,000 --> 02:04:27,360
Speaker 3: Back to that.

2688
02:04:27,640 --> 02:04:29,360
Speaker 1: All good. I feel like you shouldmash a lot of

2689
02:04:29,400 --> 02:04:33,360
Speaker 1: white girls, you know what. Listen what he didn't say

2690
02:04:33,680 --> 02:04:36,080
Speaker 1: about like it was time.

2691
02:04:37,440 --> 02:04:38,400
Speaker 2: You know you know what.

2692
02:04:39,480 --> 02:04:42,920
Speaker 6: I'll say this out of respect, no right, I respect

2693
02:04:43,000 --> 02:04:46,680
Speaker 6: my Early on in my career, I had one wild week. Okay,

2694
02:04:46,800 --> 02:04:52,560
Speaker 6: I need to hear, well, we're basically in a while

2695
02:04:52,600 --> 02:04:55,320
Speaker 6: week was I didn't say no, you know what I'm saying.

2696
02:04:56,080 --> 02:05:01,680
Speaker 6: You give yeah, you said you're a lot sing I'm single,

2697
02:05:01,760 --> 02:05:05,320
Speaker 6: the records cracking, you know what I mean, for one week,

2698
02:05:07,280 --> 02:05:10,320
Speaker 6: six and six and six cities and seven days. And

2699
02:05:10,640 --> 02:05:14,520
Speaker 6: I this is pre internet, pre cell phone. I'm at

2700
02:05:14,560 --> 02:05:16,720
Speaker 6: the end of it, like this ain't fun. I'm losing

2701
02:05:16,800 --> 02:05:19,960
Speaker 6: phone numbers, you know. And I'm like, that's somebody's daughter,

2702
02:05:20,880 --> 02:05:24,640
Speaker 6: that's somebody's sister, you know what I'm saying. So so like,

2703
02:05:24,720 --> 02:05:29,600
Speaker 6: and I'm having I'm having these starts at twenty two,

2704
02:05:30,480 --> 02:05:31,320
Speaker 6: I'm having these stores.

2705
02:05:33,680 --> 02:05:35,960
Speaker 5: So so the next next pretty thing that says something

2706
02:05:36,000 --> 02:05:37,200
Speaker 5: to me, it's like I've been through this.

2707
02:05:38,040 --> 02:05:42,600
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't enjoy that week, so I didn't game.

2708
02:05:43,280 --> 02:05:45,400
Speaker 1: He was looking in the mirror like I'm doing number.

2709
02:05:48,480 --> 02:05:49,920
Speaker 1: So that's that's that's maybe, you know.

2710
02:05:50,000 --> 02:05:52,880
Speaker 6: And and the interesting thing is like my wife now

2711
02:05:53,880 --> 02:05:55,840
Speaker 6: chantalas the first time I've been married married, the first

2712
02:05:55,840 --> 02:05:58,400
Speaker 6: time I don't gett married at you know, fifty fifty six,

2713
02:05:59,320 --> 02:06:03,920
Speaker 6: got married. And I said this in my vows because

2714
02:06:03,960 --> 02:06:05,520
Speaker 6: I felt this from the first time I met her.

2715
02:06:05,520 --> 02:06:07,080
Speaker 6: And that's how I know she's my you know, know

2716
02:06:07,240 --> 02:06:09,080
Speaker 6: that she's my wife, meant to be my wife. I

2717
02:06:09,120 --> 02:06:11,320
Speaker 6: look at her and I said, your face looks like

2718
02:06:11,480 --> 02:06:12,040
Speaker 6: home to me.

2719
02:06:12,960 --> 02:06:15,600
Speaker 1: Like I see pretty one, two three.

2720
02:06:19,680 --> 02:06:19,800
Speaker 3: Her.

2721
02:06:19,800 --> 02:06:21,240
Speaker 5: I tell her, my face looks like home to me.

2722
02:06:21,280 --> 02:06:22,960
Speaker 5: And it's interesting. I said that in my vows and

2723
02:06:23,040 --> 02:06:24,240
Speaker 5: Montell said, you should have told me.

2724
02:06:24,280 --> 02:06:26,320
Speaker 1: That before the winning I could have wrote a song.

2725
02:06:27,520 --> 02:06:31,760
Speaker 6: But it's like, it's that kind of emotional attachment that

2726
02:06:32,000 --> 02:06:33,920
Speaker 6: you know that I want to have. It's like even

2727
02:06:34,160 --> 02:06:36,600
Speaker 6: leaving her and being away from her for a couple

2728
02:06:36,600 --> 02:06:37,880
Speaker 6: of days, I got to go to West Virginia to

2729
02:06:37,920 --> 02:06:38,840
Speaker 6: do a show out to this, but I.

2730
02:06:38,840 --> 02:06:40,560
Speaker 5: Can't wait to get back and be around her.

2731
02:06:41,120 --> 02:06:45,800
Speaker 6: So to me, me knowing that I've waited this long

2732
02:06:45,880 --> 02:06:48,400
Speaker 6: to be in a relationship like this, I'm not going

2733
02:06:48,480 --> 02:06:50,520
Speaker 6: to see something at a show and be like, oh,

2734
02:06:50,520 --> 02:06:52,520
Speaker 6: I'm gonna I'm gonna have those feelings for some random

2735
02:06:52,560 --> 02:06:55,440
Speaker 6: person I meet, you know what I mean. So that's

2736
02:06:55,520 --> 02:06:57,720
Speaker 6: why it's one while week and I learned. I'm part

2737
02:06:57,720 --> 02:07:00,280
Speaker 6: of the reason I'm here is because I learned. I

2738
02:07:00,320 --> 02:07:02,200
Speaker 6: wouldn't say for my mistakes, but I learned from my.

2739
02:07:02,240 --> 02:07:06,840
Speaker 1: Experiences before your mistakes. Thankfully. Yeah, but I learned.

2740
02:07:06,840 --> 02:07:09,440
Speaker 6: I learned before a mistake, but before experience has become

2741
02:07:09,480 --> 02:07:10,200
Speaker 6: mistakes exactly.

2742
02:07:10,400 --> 02:07:13,960
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna keep it be, honey, only one week happens.

2743
02:07:14,240 --> 02:07:17,640
Speaker 1: You've been out, You've been out time I've been out,

2744
02:07:18,280 --> 02:07:18,880
Speaker 1: I've been out.

2745
02:07:19,000 --> 02:07:19,919
Speaker 3: But he would.

2746
02:07:21,480 --> 02:07:27,280
Speaker 1: Happened with a record with a big hugs huge. I

2747
02:07:27,440 --> 02:07:29,520
Speaker 1: know how trifling your ask. So I do that question,

2748
02:07:35,320 --> 02:07:38,200
Speaker 1: but that that that's that's dope, man, because you know

2749
02:07:38,400 --> 02:07:40,040
Speaker 1: what I am. I love love.

2750
02:07:40,640 --> 02:07:42,880
Speaker 4: So I don't know we're gonna because if he don't

2751
02:07:42,920 --> 02:07:45,680
Speaker 4: drink his shot, he will drink it when he comes

2752
02:07:45,760 --> 02:07:46,120
Speaker 4: back out.

2753
02:07:46,520 --> 02:07:56,400
Speaker 1: Okay. Aretha Franklin or Patti LaBelle m hm.

2754
02:07:59,400 --> 02:08:03,480
Speaker 5: Orething dude, Aretha rock Steady, rock Steady is like.

2755
02:08:04,960 --> 02:08:08,440
Speaker 6: I put that up as one of the one of

2756
02:08:08,480 --> 02:08:13,840
Speaker 6: the best records in terms of the hype, her singing

2757
02:08:14,680 --> 02:08:18,800
Speaker 6: the track the chance, you know what I'm saying, Like

2758
02:08:19,160 --> 02:08:23,480
Speaker 6: there's the breakbeat in it, just that one record and

2759
02:08:23,560 --> 02:08:25,600
Speaker 6: then I mean, you know there's other obviously other big

2760
02:08:25,680 --> 02:08:27,600
Speaker 6: things that she's done and the like, but from from

2761
02:08:27,640 --> 02:08:31,040
Speaker 6: my hip hop heart Aretha Franklin.

2762
02:08:31,240 --> 02:08:36,840
Speaker 1: Okay, I respect that iced tea or ice cube cases

2763
02:08:36,920 --> 02:08:37,600
Speaker 1: of the ice.

2764
02:08:38,680 --> 02:08:41,760
Speaker 5: Man, both go ahead and drink.

2765
02:08:44,200 --> 02:08:44,680
Speaker 1: Me and tea.

2766
02:08:45,240 --> 02:08:46,320
Speaker 5: I mean, I haven't seen.

2767
02:08:46,200 --> 02:08:47,200
Speaker 1: Tea in ages.

2768
02:08:47,520 --> 02:08:49,720
Speaker 4: I like, I like how you call people like you

2769
02:08:49,800 --> 02:08:51,600
Speaker 4: got special names to other people.

2770
02:08:51,600 --> 02:08:53,360
Speaker 1: But I'm called.

2771
02:08:55,520 --> 02:08:59,080
Speaker 5: You know, I just I haven't seen him in a

2772
02:08:59,120 --> 02:08:59,800
Speaker 5: long time. But we.

2773
02:09:01,480 --> 02:09:05,600
Speaker 1: You gotta take yeah, continue the whole ship.

2774
02:09:10,600 --> 02:09:12,880
Speaker 5: I haven't seen him in a long time. Yeah, I

2775
02:09:13,040 --> 02:09:13,880
Speaker 5: see in a long time.

2776
02:09:13,960 --> 02:09:18,720
Speaker 6: But the influence, the influence that that Colors had, and

2777
02:09:18,840 --> 02:09:20,680
Speaker 6: to take that and and and you know that that

2778
02:09:20,880 --> 02:09:25,640
Speaker 6: was a massive, massive record on the West Coast, influential,

2779
02:09:26,040 --> 02:09:28,600
Speaker 6: eye opening to people that were outside the culture outside

2780
02:09:28,600 --> 02:09:30,680
Speaker 6: of l A, didn't know about gang culture.

2781
02:09:31,280 --> 02:09:33,800
Speaker 7: There was so much you know that that went with

2782
02:09:33,880 --> 02:09:35,880
Speaker 7: that recording that video.

2783
02:09:35,920 --> 02:09:36,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, right.

2784
02:09:37,280 --> 02:09:40,280
Speaker 6: And then Cube obviously my experience with him in then

2785
02:09:40,320 --> 02:09:42,200
Speaker 6: the w A. What he's been able to do as

2786
02:09:42,240 --> 02:09:44,120
Speaker 6: a solo artist is Cuba's Icedy.

2787
02:09:44,480 --> 02:09:44,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2788
02:09:48,040 --> 02:09:52,040
Speaker 6: So it's it's almost although they do overlap, it's almost

2789
02:09:52,080 --> 02:09:56,600
Speaker 6: like asking me about two different uh sections of my life.

2790
02:09:56,680 --> 02:10:00,240
Speaker 6: Because I knew Iced Tea when he would is an

2791
02:10:00,520 --> 02:10:03,880
Speaker 6: established solo artist in l A when I was first

2792
02:10:03,960 --> 02:10:06,080
Speaker 6: starting out, and I knew Q at the same time

2793
02:10:06,120 --> 02:10:07,280
Speaker 6: as a member of n w A.

2794
02:10:07,480 --> 02:10:09,560
Speaker 5: To see him grow to that, so that's why I

2795
02:10:09,600 --> 02:10:11,920
Speaker 5: say bo he said both.

2796
02:10:14,040 --> 02:10:15,600
Speaker 6: He just took homie shot because you want to keep

2797
02:10:15,640 --> 02:10:16,480
Speaker 6: drinking that orange ship.

2798
02:10:16,720 --> 02:10:18,560
Speaker 1: Ye, I don't know that that orange don't look good

2799
02:10:18,600 --> 02:10:21,200
Speaker 1: at all. That's good, It's really good. It's really good. Good.

2800
02:10:21,560 --> 02:10:27,560
Speaker 1: All right, cool, go to the next one. Here we go.

2801
02:10:30,240 --> 02:10:32,280
Speaker 1: Did you say, hold one on the ball?

2802
02:10:36,680 --> 02:10:37,080
Speaker 3: What up?

2803
02:10:37,160 --> 02:10:37,360
Speaker 2: Man?

2804
02:10:38,520 --> 02:10:38,680
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2805
02:10:38,720 --> 02:10:46,840
Speaker 5: It's young right there, Hey, young MC. When's the last

2806
02:10:46,880 --> 02:10:48,960
Speaker 5: time I saw it? When?

2807
02:10:49,040 --> 02:10:51,240
Speaker 1: When's the last time I saw you? Through the screens?

2808
02:10:51,920 --> 02:10:58,800
Speaker 5: Turn the screen? You're still that?

2809
02:10:58,880 --> 02:10:59,240
Speaker 1: What's up?

2810
02:11:01,360 --> 02:11:04,040
Speaker 5: I'm I'm I'm at drink Champs now I'm doing my episode.

2811
02:11:09,200 --> 02:11:09,760
Speaker 1: It's so good.

2812
02:11:09,960 --> 02:11:11,760
Speaker 5: I just can't believe how long it's been since I've

2813
02:11:11,760 --> 02:11:13,080
Speaker 5: seen you, since I got out of l A.

2814
02:11:13,120 --> 02:11:13,720
Speaker 1: It's been ages.

2815
02:11:22,640 --> 02:11:34,920
Speaker 6: Wonderful. Man, Thank you man, Well you get you get

2816
02:11:34,960 --> 02:11:36,600
Speaker 6: the same for me. Man, I'm so proud of you

2817
02:11:36,680 --> 02:11:38,880
Speaker 6: to see what has developed, you know, with with you

2818
02:11:39,040 --> 02:11:40,880
Speaker 6: and your career. And like I was just telling them,

2819
02:11:40,920 --> 02:11:44,360
Speaker 6: Colors is one of the most influential records still to

2820
02:11:44,480 --> 02:11:47,040
Speaker 6: this day, and I think started the path to what

2821
02:11:47,120 --> 02:11:49,280
Speaker 6: we did on all in the same game, culminating with

2822
02:11:49,400 --> 02:11:51,360
Speaker 6: what happened with Kendrick get the pop up m.

2823
02:11:59,720 --> 02:12:02,480
Speaker 5: But but that that's what all of us were trying

2824
02:12:02,520 --> 02:12:04,520
Speaker 5: to do. I know, that's what all in the same

2825
02:12:04,600 --> 02:12:05,440
Speaker 5: gang was trying to do.

2826
02:12:05,600 --> 02:12:07,760
Speaker 6: Was what Ken Kendrick accomplished in terms of having people

2827
02:12:07,800 --> 02:12:10,440
Speaker 6: from different places all up on the same stage like that.

2828
02:12:12,160 --> 02:12:14,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, why it happened.

2829
02:12:14,520 --> 02:12:17,640
Speaker 1: But you know it's kind of like West Coast the

2830
02:12:17,720 --> 02:12:22,520
Speaker 1: AMA with the enemy, but he was the opponent, right and.

2831
02:12:23,120 --> 02:12:26,560
Speaker 2: When the West Coast feels their attack in any kind

2832
02:12:26,600 --> 02:12:30,200
Speaker 2: of way, they join up, they lock in, right and

2833
02:12:30,440 --> 02:12:34,240
Speaker 2: U you know, the first the first truth happened behind the.

2834
02:12:34,320 --> 02:12:38,160
Speaker 1: Police, right right. That happened when the cops, you know.

2835
02:12:38,200 --> 02:12:40,520
Speaker 3: With the with the riots and all that, so we

2836
02:12:40,680 --> 02:12:41,280
Speaker 3: true stuff.

2837
02:12:41,520 --> 02:12:45,920
Speaker 2: But then you know when Kendrick sounded that alarm, says,

2838
02:12:46,000 --> 02:12:51,320
Speaker 2: yeah we not he not liked us uh la joined forces,

2839
02:12:51,400 --> 02:12:55,640
Speaker 2: which hopefully, you know, we can make that a real thing, not.

2840
02:12:55,800 --> 02:12:56,440
Speaker 1: Just a video.

2841
02:12:56,640 --> 02:12:58,520
Speaker 5: You know, I think I think it felt so good

2842
02:12:58,560 --> 02:12:59,920
Speaker 5: that I think there's more that's gonna come.

2843
02:13:00,200 --> 02:13:04,280
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and you know, and then it has It

2844
02:13:04,320 --> 02:13:07,000
Speaker 2: doesn't have to be about anybody or an opponent or

2845
02:13:07,000 --> 02:13:09,760
Speaker 2: average It just needs to happen.

2846
02:13:09,600 --> 02:13:13,840
Speaker 5: For l a period exactly. I'm gonna give you back

2847
02:13:13,840 --> 02:13:15,640
Speaker 5: to nor Yeah, yeah, yeah, ye, thank you so much.

2848
02:13:15,760 --> 02:13:20,240
Speaker 1: I don't appreciate you man. Thank you so much. Yeah,

2849
02:13:21,560 --> 02:13:22,080
Speaker 1: it's loud.

2850
02:13:22,160 --> 02:13:28,600
Speaker 4: My brother always I know, yo yo yo, nah, that's

2851
02:13:28,600 --> 02:13:34,680
Speaker 4: a legend, you know, you know, skipping around like how

2852
02:13:34,720 --> 02:13:39,600
Speaker 4: you said earlier. It was kind of like a moment

2853
02:13:39,680 --> 02:13:42,080
Speaker 4: like like like he just said, he was like, you know,

2854
02:13:42,120 --> 02:13:44,480
Speaker 4: it's unfortunate because you know, at the end of the day,

2855
02:13:44,560 --> 02:13:45,480
Speaker 4: we don't want to see to.

2856
02:13:45,760 --> 02:13:47,200
Speaker 1: Do black people beefing, right, we don't.

2857
02:13:47,240 --> 02:13:49,560
Speaker 4: We don't want that, right, But now that we've got

2858
02:13:49,680 --> 02:13:53,080
Speaker 4: to also look at the good with the bat saw goes.

2859
02:13:53,000 --> 02:13:54,920
Speaker 1: Up and there support it without being against.

2860
02:13:56,320 --> 02:14:00,240
Speaker 4: But like like I said, it was so crazy that

2861
02:14:00,320 --> 02:14:02,600
Speaker 4: when I seen that picture again, I did not know

2862
02:14:02,840 --> 02:14:04,919
Speaker 4: that that was rappers.

2863
02:14:04,960 --> 02:14:07,680
Speaker 3: I thought it was just people, you mean the group picture,

2864
02:14:07,920 --> 02:14:12,839
Speaker 3: the group picture, all the artists, everybody.

2865
02:14:13,040 --> 02:14:14,640
Speaker 1: But when I seen that, I was like, that's all

2866
02:14:14,680 --> 02:14:17,280
Speaker 1: in the same gang. That's the first thing.

2867
02:14:17,680 --> 02:14:19,960
Speaker 4: Maybe my soul is old or maybe I don't care,

2868
02:14:20,320 --> 02:14:22,720
Speaker 4: like I was, just like I saw that, and then

2869
02:14:23,240 --> 02:14:24,880
Speaker 4: it was like, yo, we got, we got you can

2870
02:14:24,960 --> 02:14:27,120
Speaker 4: see and I was like, this is so perfect.

2871
02:14:27,160 --> 02:14:28,120
Speaker 1: It's a perfect time.

2872
02:14:28,200 --> 02:14:32,440
Speaker 4: And because again you're originally from the East Coast in

2873
02:14:32,480 --> 02:14:34,960
Speaker 4: New York, like how we established but you made your

2874
02:14:35,040 --> 02:14:37,040
Speaker 4: bones and how you said, you can cut your teeth

2875
02:14:37,240 --> 02:14:37,640
Speaker 4: in la.

2876
02:14:38,280 --> 02:14:39,040
Speaker 1: So you seeing that.

2877
02:14:39,360 --> 02:14:41,360
Speaker 4: I know I asked you something like that earlier, but

2878
02:14:41,520 --> 02:14:44,000
Speaker 4: to reiterate it, like when you saw that, what was

2879
02:14:44,040 --> 02:14:44,600
Speaker 4: you thinking?

2880
02:14:44,720 --> 02:14:46,960
Speaker 5: No, it warmed my heart because that was the whole thing.

2881
02:14:47,120 --> 02:14:50,800
Speaker 6: Like I said, like when we recorded all in the

2882
02:14:50,840 --> 02:14:53,240
Speaker 6: same gang, there were certain people. You couldn't have all

2883
02:14:53,280 --> 02:14:55,360
Speaker 6: the artists in the same studio recorded. You have to

2884
02:14:55,400 --> 02:14:58,520
Speaker 6: book appointments. I don't even I don't think I drove myself.

2885
02:14:58,560 --> 02:15:01,480
Speaker 6: I think I was picked up, my ship picked up

2886
02:15:01,560 --> 02:15:03,600
Speaker 6: taking home. Nobody else there.

2887
02:15:03,880 --> 02:15:05,960
Speaker 1: Well, you know what I mean. You not gang affiliating.

2888
02:15:07,400 --> 02:15:09,480
Speaker 3: People said that, storry. But people said that about the

2889
02:15:09,600 --> 02:15:12,120
Speaker 3: artists that were at the pop up. They said the

2890
02:15:12,160 --> 02:15:15,080
Speaker 3: same thing, that a lot of those artists and their entourages,

2891
02:15:15,120 --> 02:15:17,480
Speaker 3: those sections could not be together. And this is the

2892
02:15:17,520 --> 02:15:19,320
Speaker 3: first time that a lot of these people could be together.

2893
02:15:19,640 --> 02:15:21,840
Speaker 4: But you know, I did hear that, But I also

2894
02:15:21,960 --> 02:15:24,600
Speaker 4: heard that they actually went to rehearsals together.

2895
02:15:25,360 --> 02:15:28,000
Speaker 1: The whole the whole vibe, the way it came together.

2896
02:15:28,040 --> 02:15:29,840
Speaker 1: Everybody had to be with it, right, they had to

2897
02:15:29,920 --> 02:15:34,560
Speaker 1: be with it. He had to unify, right, crazy, that's crazy.

2898
02:15:35,120 --> 02:15:40,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I put I put their west Coat ship together too, bigger,

2899
02:15:40,880 --> 02:15:43,040
Speaker 4: bigger man. I see he was Beijing up to.

2900
02:15:45,280 --> 02:15:54,040
Speaker 1: Listen, don't talk, buddy, I mean Boys in the Hood.

2901
02:15:55,960 --> 02:15:57,360
Speaker 6: Boys in the Hood I went. I went to college

2902
02:15:57,360 --> 02:16:01,840
Speaker 6: with John Singles and John. John was one year younger

2903
02:16:02,520 --> 02:16:05,640
Speaker 6: than me. So I I remember walking out of Boys

2904
02:16:05,680 --> 02:16:09,360
Speaker 6: in the Hood speechless, not only because it's my friend,

2905
02:16:09,720 --> 02:16:11,800
Speaker 6: you know, but just to see the drama of it

2906
02:16:12,400 --> 02:16:17,160
Speaker 6: coming up, you know, learning about l a uh.

2907
02:16:17,960 --> 02:16:20,600
Speaker 1: Through cinema, no, through through living there.

2908
02:16:20,920 --> 02:16:23,360
Speaker 3: It was there. Yeah, I was there, so but seeing

2909
02:16:23,520 --> 02:16:26,480
Speaker 3: now being depicted as we're saying, walked and.

2910
02:16:26,520 --> 02:16:28,040
Speaker 1: Like I said, yeah, I miss I miss John.

2911
02:16:28,160 --> 02:16:30,000
Speaker 6: I you know, going to school with John two just

2912
02:16:30,040 --> 02:16:32,600
Speaker 6: to see what what he became as a director, it

2913
02:16:32,680 --> 02:16:33,279
Speaker 6: was like amazing.

2914
02:16:33,600 --> 02:16:40,360
Speaker 1: So yeah, okay, that was simple. Last Banali's Oh that's

2915
02:16:40,360 --> 02:16:47,400
Speaker 1: where we're at. Yep. Loyalty or respect.

2916
02:16:49,800 --> 02:16:51,760
Speaker 6: Sorry, y'all don't have to drink, but I'm gonna say loyalty.

2917
02:16:52,480 --> 02:16:55,840
Speaker 6: And the reason is there's a lot of people that

2918
02:16:55,959 --> 02:16:58,840
Speaker 6: can respect you. But you can respect somebody who don't know.

2919
02:16:59,440 --> 02:17:02,400
Speaker 6: You can even respect somebody you don't like. But if

2920
02:17:02,440 --> 02:17:05,200
Speaker 6: I know somebody is loyal to me, I'm gonna bust

2921
02:17:05,280 --> 02:17:08,480
Speaker 6: my ass to make sure they respect me. Because the

2922
02:17:08,600 --> 02:17:11,760
Speaker 6: worst position you could be in is someone being loyal

2923
02:17:11,800 --> 02:17:15,320
Speaker 6: to you who doesn't respect you Like that's that's that

2924
02:17:15,600 --> 02:17:20,040
Speaker 6: is like to me, that is almost like slavery, like

2925
02:17:20,200 --> 02:17:23,959
Speaker 6: for servitude, Like I can't leave, like you know, I'm

2926
02:17:23,959 --> 02:17:26,000
Speaker 6: gonna show you my loyalty, but I really don't respect you.

2927
02:17:26,800 --> 02:17:28,720
Speaker 6: That's that's a mixture of feelings that I can't even

2928
02:17:28,800 --> 02:17:32,360
Speaker 6: relate to. So if someone expresses loyalty to me, my

2929
02:17:32,520 --> 02:17:36,080
Speaker 6: actions are gonna dictate that hopefully they'll respect me. But

2930
02:17:36,200 --> 02:17:39,959
Speaker 6: if someone respects me, I don't know what it's gonna

2931
02:17:39,959 --> 02:17:41,200
Speaker 6: take for them to be loyal to me, and I

2932
02:17:41,320 --> 02:17:44,800
Speaker 6: probably don't care. But if I know that loyalty is there,

2933
02:17:45,640 --> 02:17:49,000
Speaker 6: that's gonna be you know, nourished and cherished, you know,

2934
02:17:49,120 --> 02:17:49,840
Speaker 6: with respect.

2935
02:17:53,640 --> 02:17:59,520
Speaker 1: He personally give you all the reason to dress.

2936
02:18:00,080 --> 02:18:12,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get the boy, all right, Guys, don't break

2937
02:18:12,720 --> 02:18:13,400
Speaker 3: the chair, Charles.

2938
02:18:17,879 --> 02:18:18,520
Speaker 1: Make sure.

2939
02:18:22,280 --> 02:18:27,440
Speaker 4: I know I actually somewhat of this. Yeah no, because

2940
02:18:27,480 --> 02:18:32,560
Speaker 4: you know why we didn't because hip hop changed so much. Yeah,

2941
02:18:33,760 --> 02:18:35,920
Speaker 4: like I said, like I said it earlier, like I

2942
02:18:36,120 --> 02:18:39,600
Speaker 4: sincerely believe that I would have done hip hop if

2943
02:18:39,920 --> 02:18:40,880
Speaker 4: I didn't get paid.

2944
02:18:41,480 --> 02:18:42,840
Speaker 1: But then it became a.

2945
02:18:42,879 --> 02:18:45,560
Speaker 4: Business and people forced me to think like that forced

2946
02:18:45,600 --> 02:18:50,480
Speaker 4: me to want to be in big business as opposed

2947
02:18:50,520 --> 02:18:55,600
Speaker 4: to being a big artistry, and I didn't care. This

2948
02:18:55,720 --> 02:18:57,520
Speaker 4: is a question that we didn't ask you on Quick

2949
02:18:57,560 --> 02:18:59,800
Speaker 4: Time with Slim, And this is me and Efn's question.

2950
02:19:00,120 --> 02:19:03,119
Speaker 4: We always you know, part ways on, but we agreed

2951
02:19:03,160 --> 02:19:05,879
Speaker 4: to a certain extent. But if you had a chance

2952
02:19:05,959 --> 02:19:09,080
Speaker 4: to choose, which you would say independent or you go

2953
02:19:09,240 --> 02:19:10,080
Speaker 4: with a major label?

2954
02:19:11,720 --> 02:19:15,640
Speaker 5: Today, I would go with an independent, Okay, twenty five

2955
02:19:15,760 --> 02:19:17,080
Speaker 5: years ago, I'd go with a major.

2956
02:19:17,600 --> 02:19:18,360
Speaker 1: Can't explain that.

2957
02:19:19,879 --> 02:19:25,680
Speaker 6: Independence only had so much sway and the the big

2958
02:19:25,720 --> 02:19:27,720
Speaker 6: advantage of a majors that they had the money and

2959
02:19:27,879 --> 02:19:32,000
Speaker 6: the access to pressing plants, the monopoly. So so if

2960
02:19:32,440 --> 02:19:34,920
Speaker 6: if you wanted to sell a million records in a month,

2961
02:19:35,320 --> 02:19:37,560
Speaker 6: you couldn't really do that as an inded. You'd have

2962
02:19:37,640 --> 02:19:39,480
Speaker 6: to front the money to a pressing plant that didn't

2963
02:19:39,520 --> 02:19:41,560
Speaker 6: have something else going on that could make that many records,

2964
02:19:41,600 --> 02:19:43,840
Speaker 6: get it out to the stores, and you don't have

2965
02:19:47,720 --> 02:19:50,520
Speaker 6: a stick to hit those record stores over the head

2966
02:19:50,560 --> 02:19:52,400
Speaker 6: with you and universal you put out a record, they

2967
02:19:52,440 --> 02:19:54,000
Speaker 6: don't pay you like yo. You want the next M

2968
02:19:54,040 --> 02:19:56,120
Speaker 6: and M. You better pay me on this last one.

2969
02:19:56,360 --> 02:19:58,800
Speaker 6: You were an independent and you put a record out

2970
02:19:58,800 --> 02:20:00,160
Speaker 6: to the record store and they owe you for couple

2971
02:20:00,240 --> 02:20:01,920
Speaker 6: hundred thousand records and you don't have another artist.

2972
02:20:01,959 --> 02:20:04,560
Speaker 5: You're waiting on them. So that's why I'd want to

2973
02:20:04,600 --> 02:20:05,720
Speaker 5: be with a major. Then now with the.

2974
02:20:05,720 --> 02:20:09,320
Speaker 6: Streaming whatever, I'd rather be with an independent. But you

2975
02:20:09,440 --> 02:20:13,560
Speaker 6: talk about the business. I make the first record, get

2976
02:20:13,600 --> 02:20:18,520
Speaker 6: into a lawsuit with Delicious Vinyl, find out about publishing,

2977
02:20:18,560 --> 02:20:22,720
Speaker 6: all this other stuff, make a publishing deal outside with

2978
02:20:22,879 --> 02:20:26,400
Speaker 6: Almo Irving. Delicious wanted me, but I took less money

2979
02:20:26,480 --> 02:20:29,120
Speaker 6: to go outside. I make a record call. That's the

2980
02:20:29,120 --> 02:20:32,320
Speaker 6: will of goes. That was for an artist named Johnny C.

2981
02:20:33,240 --> 02:20:33,920
Speaker 5: Johnny C was.

2982
02:20:35,480 --> 02:20:37,920
Speaker 6: Either a de facto member or affiliated closely with the

2983
02:20:37,959 --> 02:20:40,800
Speaker 6: Ghetto Boys. So I fly to Houston. He's the one

2984
02:20:40,840 --> 02:20:44,920
Speaker 6: that they thought would would would crossover, you know, wrap

2985
02:20:44,959 --> 02:20:50,320
Speaker 6: a lot I believes I met, I met Yeah, and

2986
02:20:50,480 --> 02:20:55,000
Speaker 6: Bush Waken Yeah. So that record ends up not happening.

2987
02:20:55,800 --> 02:20:59,160
Speaker 6: But I'm I have a six figure publishing deal that

2988
02:20:59,240 --> 02:21:01,640
Speaker 6: I have to fulfill. So that's the way it goes.

2989
02:21:01,720 --> 02:21:03,480
Speaker 6: All of a sudden becomes my record even though I

2990
02:21:03,520 --> 02:21:07,920
Speaker 6: didn't write it for me. So that's a decision that

2991
02:21:08,160 --> 02:21:11,160
Speaker 6: was spurred by business, because I wanted to make sure

2992
02:21:11,280 --> 02:21:13,199
Speaker 6: the publishing company that backed.

2993
02:21:13,040 --> 02:21:16,400
Speaker 5: Me for you know, ten full songs was made whole.

2994
02:21:17,600 --> 02:21:19,520
Speaker 6: When when when the biggest song that I was trying

2995
02:21:19,560 --> 02:21:21,840
Speaker 6: to do for the publishing deal didn't happen, I'm like, Okay,

2996
02:21:21,840 --> 02:21:22,720
Speaker 6: I got I'll put it out.

2997
02:21:23,959 --> 02:21:24,600
Speaker 5: It's fine.

2998
02:21:25,320 --> 02:21:28,600
Speaker 6: But I know if I had the ability to approach it,

2999
02:21:28,760 --> 02:21:31,320
Speaker 6: just as making a record for me, that probably wouldn't

3000
02:21:31,320 --> 02:21:33,199
Speaker 6: have been the record. It was a record by necessity

3001
02:21:33,280 --> 02:21:36,080
Speaker 6: for business as opposed to being a record for artistry.

3002
02:21:36,320 --> 02:21:38,920
Speaker 5: To move Young MC forward. I was just moving the

3003
02:21:38,959 --> 02:21:39,680
Speaker 5: business forward.

3004
02:21:40,560 --> 02:21:46,959
Speaker 1: So I get it. That was great. That was great.

3005
02:21:47,480 --> 02:21:50,400
Speaker 6: I'm so impressed that I'm impressing you, even high and

3006
02:21:50,480 --> 02:21:51,400
Speaker 6: drunk impressed.

3007
02:21:52,080 --> 02:21:52,760
Speaker 5: That means so much.

3008
02:21:52,959 --> 02:21:56,800
Speaker 4: Let me ask you another one, Yes, sir, what is

3009
02:21:57,080 --> 02:22:00,280
Speaker 4: your favorite making the record or performing record?

3010
02:22:02,320 --> 02:22:05,920
Speaker 5: See we end in the quick Thomas line, I know

3011
02:22:06,000 --> 02:22:11,439
Speaker 5: you would. You know what I have to say, both.

3012
02:22:13,520 --> 02:22:21,080
Speaker 6: Before he finished the bottle dude, he did before I

3013
02:22:21,120 --> 02:22:23,200
Speaker 6: would make the record, saying this sounds good. Let me

3014
02:22:23,240 --> 02:22:26,440
Speaker 6: see what it's like on stage. Now I make the

3015
02:22:26,520 --> 02:22:29,840
Speaker 6: record excuse me. Now, I make the record knowing what

3016
02:22:30,040 --> 02:22:32,560
Speaker 6: the stage is going to be like, this will be

3017
02:22:32,720 --> 02:22:37,160
Speaker 6: the part that people call the response that you know

3018
02:22:37,240 --> 02:22:40,640
Speaker 6: the bottom end. Literally I was taking I was taking

3019
02:22:40,680 --> 02:22:45,680
Speaker 6: my new record to my shows and sound checking it

3020
02:22:46,400 --> 02:22:50,480
Speaker 6: and then looking at the monitors that the sunman had

3021
02:22:50,520 --> 02:22:53,720
Speaker 6: to see what frequencies needed to be raised or lower,

3022
02:22:53,840 --> 02:22:55,360
Speaker 6: putting that in my phone, and then going back and

3023
02:22:55,440 --> 02:22:56,080
Speaker 6: doing a session.

3024
02:22:56,680 --> 02:22:58,480
Speaker 5: And I would do that two and three times. Tell

3025
02:22:58,520 --> 02:23:00,720
Speaker 5: you the song is called loose. This is the cover

3026
02:23:00,879 --> 02:23:03,920
Speaker 5: for it. I worked on it for two years, no like,

3027
02:23:04,120 --> 02:23:06,360
Speaker 5: no bullshit, and that experience.

3028
02:23:06,400 --> 02:23:10,280
Speaker 1: One record, one song, one song and two years.

3029
02:23:10,920 --> 02:23:13,000
Speaker 6: But it wasn't like every day whatever whatever. But I'm

3030
02:23:13,000 --> 02:23:14,680
Speaker 6: thinking the records done, Oh what if I do this?

3031
02:23:14,840 --> 02:23:16,160
Speaker 6: And then the AI component like.

3032
02:23:16,160 --> 02:23:18,080
Speaker 5: Oh what if I took the disco theory and I

3033
02:23:18,640 --> 02:23:21,040
Speaker 5: made it a character. So all of that stuff was

3034
02:23:21,120 --> 02:23:23,720
Speaker 5: over that time, putting all that together.

3035
02:23:23,920 --> 02:23:26,320
Speaker 6: But the culmination of that is that I performed that

3036
02:23:26,400 --> 02:23:28,880
Speaker 6: record as well or better than anything else that I do.

3037
02:23:29,200 --> 02:23:31,160
Speaker 1: And did you have a clear huh? Do I have

3038
02:23:31,240 --> 02:23:35,760
Speaker 1: a what? Can we hear this record? Yes? You can?

3039
02:23:35,800 --> 02:23:36,680
Speaker 1: You play it on your phone?

3040
02:23:37,080 --> 02:23:38,800
Speaker 5: I have a dude, I'm a computer if I mean

3041
02:23:39,040 --> 02:23:40,400
Speaker 5: either on I like, he.

3042
02:23:40,440 --> 02:23:46,360
Speaker 1: Called you dude all night. I'm what was his name,

3043
02:23:46,440 --> 02:23:49,120
Speaker 1: yellow dude? You never nobody ever called you dude. I

3044
02:23:49,280 --> 02:23:55,879
Speaker 1: like being due cold nigga. My whole life being cold,

3045
02:23:55,959 --> 02:23:56,560
Speaker 1: dude is okay.

3046
02:23:56,640 --> 02:24:00,760
Speaker 3: I just want to hear this record, okay, ended master.

3047
02:24:02,560 --> 02:24:05,120
Speaker 1: But we can't put into the system like I have

3048
02:24:05,240 --> 02:24:07,280
Speaker 1: my computer. I could send somebody there. You got a

3049
02:24:07,320 --> 02:24:11,240
Speaker 1: little budget. I don't put it in the system. I

3050
02:24:11,320 --> 02:24:16,520
Speaker 1: don't know. I was playing email it to whom the

3051
02:24:16,600 --> 02:24:20,360
Speaker 1: first time earlier they were playing, No, he was playing

3052
02:24:20,400 --> 02:24:25,000
Speaker 1: from his phone. He was playing from his phone. He got.

3053
02:24:28,000 --> 02:24:28,920
Speaker 5: Email it to somebody?

3054
02:24:29,040 --> 02:24:32,560
Speaker 1: Right now, what's the what's the copy of paste too?

3055
02:24:32,640 --> 02:24:34,120
Speaker 1: What's that?

3056
02:24:34,480 --> 02:24:35,440
Speaker 5: If it's if it's.

3057
02:24:37,160 --> 02:24:39,640
Speaker 6: A sauce or a garnish. I think it's a good

3058
02:24:39,680 --> 02:24:41,200
Speaker 6: thing if you try, and if you're trying to make

3059
02:24:41,640 --> 02:24:44,600
Speaker 6: music from screen, you know there's supposedly on on the

3060
02:24:44,640 --> 02:24:48,960
Speaker 6: streaming services there there are thousands of records made general

3061
02:24:49,040 --> 02:24:49,600
Speaker 6: artists and all that.

3062
02:24:49,720 --> 02:24:50,720
Speaker 1: I'm not with that, dude.

3063
02:24:51,080 --> 02:24:53,279
Speaker 5: I'm looking at as a tool to enhance.

3064
02:24:53,080 --> 02:24:55,480
Speaker 3: What I write, Like auto tunes was a tool that people.

3065
02:24:55,320 --> 02:24:56,800
Speaker 5: Use the way I look at it is like this.

3066
02:24:57,760 --> 02:25:01,400
Speaker 5: In two thousand and eight, I.

3067
02:25:03,040 --> 02:25:08,000
Speaker 6: Finally, after after twenty some odds, you know, twenty eight

3068
02:25:08,080 --> 02:25:11,720
Speaker 6: years of rapping, I decided to really look into rhymen

3069
02:25:11,760 --> 02:25:15,440
Speaker 6: dictionaries because my thought process was, it's not that the

3070
02:25:15,520 --> 02:25:17,680
Speaker 6: words are not in my vocabulary.

3071
02:25:17,879 --> 02:25:19,959
Speaker 5: They're just not in my head at the moment I'm

3072
02:25:19,959 --> 02:25:20,840
Speaker 5: writing that line.

3073
02:25:21,120 --> 02:25:22,560
Speaker 6: But if I was to see someone, I have a

3074
02:25:22,640 --> 02:25:24,800
Speaker 6: line of mind and I see a word that rhymes

3075
02:25:24,840 --> 02:25:26,360
Speaker 6: with it, that'll spark other lines.

3076
02:25:26,680 --> 02:25:28,160
Speaker 5: So I said, let me use that as a tool.

3077
02:25:28,440 --> 02:25:30,480
Speaker 5: And I've already written I mean, I've written.

3078
02:25:30,360 --> 02:25:33,160
Speaker 6: Multiplanting records in like three different decades at that point.

3079
02:25:33,480 --> 02:25:37,520
Speaker 6: So I'm like, okay, let me try and make the

3080
02:25:37,560 --> 02:25:38,880
Speaker 6: best of it. Let me, let me, let me, let

3081
02:25:38,920 --> 02:25:40,680
Speaker 6: me see what I can do. And I fell in

3082
02:25:40,760 --> 02:25:44,000
Speaker 6: love with like the four and eight line couplets in terms.

3083
02:25:43,800 --> 02:25:47,840
Speaker 5: Of rhyme and A and then aabb I almost don't

3084
02:25:47,879 --> 02:25:48,480
Speaker 5: do that anymore.

3085
02:25:48,520 --> 02:25:50,360
Speaker 6: You get to the third line. I want to bring

3086
02:25:50,440 --> 02:25:53,039
Speaker 6: back the rhyme again. I have a record called Nocturnal

3087
02:25:54,000 --> 02:25:57,560
Speaker 6: made that in O wait has to me the best

3088
02:25:57,720 --> 02:25:59,560
Speaker 6: verse that I've ever written in my life. And I

3089
02:25:59,600 --> 02:26:01,600
Speaker 6: still for it, at least at my longer shows to

3090
02:26:01,720 --> 02:26:05,240
Speaker 6: this day, and it just falls into the same thing of.

3091
02:26:07,480 --> 02:26:08,640
Speaker 5: Continuing the rhyme scheme.

3092
02:26:08,680 --> 02:26:13,080
Speaker 6: I'm I was doing a nineties show and I'm sound

3093
02:26:13,160 --> 02:26:15,640
Speaker 6: checking and I see this dude setting up chairs, young kid,

3094
02:26:16,959 --> 02:26:20,359
Speaker 6: maybe twenty, So I start my third verse of Nocturnal.

3095
02:26:20,879 --> 02:26:22,800
Speaker 6: I get through four lines. He's bobbing his head. I

3096
02:26:22,840 --> 02:26:24,640
Speaker 6: get to the fifth line, continue the rhyme scheme. He

3097
02:26:24,720 --> 02:26:27,320
Speaker 6: starts smiling. I get to the ninth line, continue to

3098
02:26:27,400 --> 02:26:30,160
Speaker 6: rhyme scheme. He's like almost laughing. I get to the

3099
02:26:30,240 --> 02:26:32,880
Speaker 6: thirteenth line. He's looking at me to change it, and

3100
02:26:32,959 --> 02:26:35,280
Speaker 6: I don't change it, and he's like, he's dancing now.

3101
02:26:35,840 --> 02:26:37,320
Speaker 6: And then I finished the whole verse, and I'm like,

3102
02:26:37,720 --> 02:26:38,480
Speaker 6: that's what I want.

3103
02:26:39,000 --> 02:26:41,000
Speaker 5: This kid was working. He's like, I was just background

3104
02:26:41,080 --> 02:26:44,000
Speaker 5: until I became more than background, you know what I mean.

3105
02:26:44,280 --> 02:26:49,200
Speaker 6: So you want me to spit, I'll spit if you want. Yeah, yeah, okay, okay.

3106
02:26:50,080 --> 02:26:52,560
Speaker 6: I'm setting the tone for those that were sweating alone.

3107
02:26:52,720 --> 02:26:54,480
Speaker 6: You were thinking that your life would just setting the

3108
02:26:54,520 --> 02:26:57,000
Speaker 6: stone if it worry about your sins, you better atone,

3109
02:26:57,000 --> 02:26:58,480
Speaker 6: because I'd be creeping through the night just like a

3110
02:26:58,520 --> 02:26:59,280
Speaker 6: predator drone.

3111
02:26:59,400 --> 02:26:59,959
Speaker 1: Let it be known.

3112
02:27:00,200 --> 02:27:02,240
Speaker 5: Call your people, get on the phone. Calm your homegirl

3113
02:27:02,320 --> 02:27:03,600
Speaker 5: down like you're ready to bone.

3114
02:27:03,720 --> 02:27:05,360
Speaker 6: Someone got to lick it up and gave her steady

3115
02:27:05,400 --> 02:27:07,160
Speaker 6: patron I can smell it on her body like some

3116
02:27:07,240 --> 02:27:07,879
Speaker 6: heavy coloone.

3117
02:27:08,040 --> 02:27:09,600
Speaker 5: Let her go home, Put her in the bed on

3118
02:27:09,640 --> 02:27:09,960
Speaker 5: her own.

3119
02:27:10,120 --> 02:27:11,760
Speaker 6: If she feels sick, let her put her head on

3120
02:27:11,800 --> 02:27:13,720
Speaker 6: the throne, because it's better than a stranger trying to

3121
02:27:13,720 --> 02:27:15,480
Speaker 6: get her. The moan thought he had a green light.

3122
02:27:15,560 --> 02:27:17,720
Speaker 6: That's some redd in the zone. Never be known. Things

3123
02:27:17,760 --> 02:27:19,480
Speaker 6: that can never be shown. In the cover of the

3124
02:27:19,600 --> 02:27:21,680
Speaker 6: night or the cover was blown. There's a happy ending.

3125
02:27:21,680 --> 02:27:24,360
Speaker 6: He had tragedy postponed, but tomorrow night is still unknown.

3126
02:27:24,400 --> 02:27:25,200
Speaker 6: It's nocturnal.

3127
02:27:25,440 --> 02:27:31,680
Speaker 1: Wo bro, I did that.

3128
02:27:31,959 --> 02:27:34,160
Speaker 6: I did that in the show that you Saw Me do. Okay,

3129
02:27:34,200 --> 02:27:35,600
Speaker 6: that's one of the records I did in the show

3130
02:27:35,600 --> 02:27:36,360
Speaker 6: and show you saw Me do.

3131
02:27:36,560 --> 02:27:36,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

3132
02:27:37,280 --> 02:27:41,760
Speaker 7: Let me ask you, yes, sir, have you ever fell

3133
02:27:41,959 --> 02:27:43,119
Speaker 7: out of love with hip hop?

3134
02:27:44,440 --> 02:27:44,480
Speaker 8: No?

3135
02:27:45,280 --> 02:27:48,400
Speaker 6: Never, nothing, because hip hop has not never been one thing,

3136
02:27:48,640 --> 02:27:51,800
Speaker 6: like no one could ever change hip hop for me.

3137
02:27:53,320 --> 02:27:54,920
Speaker 1: Hip hop is going to be what it's going to be.

3138
02:27:55,040 --> 02:27:58,560
Speaker 6: When I was ten and first winning the Jeff Taylor

3139
02:27:58,680 --> 02:28:01,960
Speaker 6: aka grad Master Key's basement on two tenth Street and

3140
02:28:02,040 --> 02:28:02,959
Speaker 6: Hollis You.

3141
02:28:02,959 --> 02:28:03,320
Speaker 1: Know what I mean.

3142
02:28:03,640 --> 02:28:05,959
Speaker 6: And I'm rapping over two good times or to bounced

3143
02:28:06,040 --> 02:28:10,000
Speaker 6: rock skates, or to walk this ways or two big beats.

3144
02:28:09,800 --> 02:28:12,080
Speaker 1: That feeling right?

3145
02:28:12,400 --> 02:28:16,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, but you have to be disappointed in what and

3146
02:28:16,360 --> 02:28:19,160
Speaker 5: what and what they're asking? What am I going to

3147
02:28:19,200 --> 02:28:23,840
Speaker 5: be disappointed in? I mean, when my record was out,

3148
02:28:24,920 --> 02:28:26,520
Speaker 5: I didn't want everybody sounding like me.

3149
02:28:27,360 --> 02:28:29,760
Speaker 6: So when other people's records are out, why should I

3150
02:28:29,840 --> 02:28:31,920
Speaker 6: feel I need to sound like them do exactly what

3151
02:28:32,040 --> 02:28:35,520
Speaker 6: they do. I took some of the heat, you know,

3152
02:28:35,680 --> 02:28:37,880
Speaker 6: for the time when hip hop was trying to get established.

3153
02:28:38,360 --> 02:28:41,560
Speaker 6: By the time I stopped having hit records, hip hop

3154
02:28:41,760 --> 02:28:45,520
Speaker 6: was established. So if someone else is out there fucking up,

3155
02:28:45,600 --> 02:28:46,400
Speaker 6: it's not on me.

3156
02:28:46,560 --> 02:28:47,160
Speaker 3: It's not on me.

3157
02:28:47,680 --> 02:28:50,160
Speaker 6: I still got mine, I'm still doing mine, I'm still performing,

3158
02:28:50,200 --> 02:28:52,680
Speaker 6: still doing all that. It's like, oh man, I really

3159
02:28:52,720 --> 02:28:55,440
Speaker 6: hate what they did to what I love. No, it's

3160
02:28:55,520 --> 02:29:00,720
Speaker 6: too much of a dynamic, you know, and to say

3161
02:29:00,800 --> 02:29:02,360
Speaker 6: that someone has changed it to the point where I'm

3162
02:29:02,400 --> 02:29:05,840
Speaker 6: going to general Yeah, And dude, I could have done

3163
02:29:05,920 --> 02:29:08,720
Speaker 6: something else. I have a bachelor's degree. I could have

3164
02:29:08,760 --> 02:29:11,440
Speaker 6: gone to grad school I could easily do something else.

3165
02:29:11,440 --> 02:29:13,680
Speaker 6: I choose to do this, so nothing is going to

3166
02:29:14,240 --> 02:29:17,520
Speaker 6: keep me. Nothing's going to keep me from doing this, dude.

3167
02:29:17,640 --> 02:29:19,760
Speaker 6: So regardless of what I see out there, I would

3168
02:29:19,920 --> 02:29:22,560
Speaker 6: you know, I wish certain things wouldn't.

3169
02:29:22,160 --> 02:29:23,640
Speaker 1: Happen and things wouldn't get.

3170
02:29:23,520 --> 02:29:25,680
Speaker 6: You know, I'm here about the scene down here in Miami,

3171
02:29:25,760 --> 02:29:27,080
Speaker 6: how violent it gets, and that kind of thing. I

3172
02:29:27,120 --> 02:29:29,280
Speaker 6: wish those things wouldn't happen. But in terms of my

3173
02:29:29,400 --> 02:29:31,959
Speaker 6: love for hip hop, nah, that's that's something.

3174
02:29:31,840 --> 02:29:34,160
Speaker 1: Right, blessing that you could make a living doing this.

3175
02:29:34,440 --> 02:29:37,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, I've written musician on my tax return for thirty

3176
02:29:38,080 --> 02:29:38,920
Speaker 6: seven years.

3177
02:29:39,240 --> 02:29:41,160
Speaker 5: God damn you know what I'm saying. It's like, what

3178
02:29:41,280 --> 02:29:41,880
Speaker 5: else would I do?

3179
02:29:42,560 --> 02:29:44,800
Speaker 6: Even people say, oh man, you hate having a record

3180
02:29:44,879 --> 02:29:46,840
Speaker 6: like Bust and Move. If you say that, there's what

3181
02:29:47,040 --> 02:29:49,199
Speaker 6: three hundred and sixty three hundred and seventy million people

3182
02:29:49,240 --> 02:29:53,959
Speaker 6: in this country that's around there. If I said two

3183
02:29:54,120 --> 02:29:56,360
Speaker 6: hundred to two hundred and fifty million of those people,

3184
02:29:56,440 --> 02:29:57,400
Speaker 6: no bust to Move.

3185
02:29:58,600 --> 02:30:00,039
Speaker 1: If I would say.

3186
02:30:02,360 --> 02:30:04,720
Speaker 6: My call process is regardless of what school I went

3187
02:30:04,800 --> 02:30:06,440
Speaker 6: to and all that, what what what else would I

3188
02:30:06,520 --> 02:30:07,760
Speaker 6: do to touch that many people?

3189
02:30:08,480 --> 02:30:10,760
Speaker 5: One hit wonder or not. I know I'm not on

3190
02:30:10,800 --> 02:30:12,360
Speaker 5: one hit wonder, but I'm saying, if that's all you.

3191
02:30:12,440 --> 02:30:16,440
Speaker 1: Know me for, you know me cool. Most people are

3192
02:30:16,480 --> 02:30:18,080
Speaker 1: just trying to get know That's what I'm saying.

3193
02:30:18,440 --> 02:30:20,760
Speaker 7: But let let's let's hit that. Let's hit that first

3194
02:30:20,840 --> 02:30:23,160
Speaker 7: verse of Bust to Move, Let's hit it really, let's

3195
02:30:23,200 --> 02:30:23,400
Speaker 7: hit it.

3196
02:30:24,360 --> 02:30:26,160
Speaker 1: Let's go that's what you want to hear, because I'm

3197
02:30:26,200 --> 02:30:32,160
Speaker 1: ryming you want to go? I never do you got me?

3198
02:30:32,240 --> 02:30:32,600
Speaker 3: You got me?

3199
02:30:33,600 --> 02:30:36,400
Speaker 1: My man taping me? I mean, I don't know if

3200
02:30:36,400 --> 02:30:42,119
Speaker 1: you do a camera that's fair enough.

3201
02:30:44,440 --> 02:30:51,480
Speaker 6: Really all right, I would tell I'll tell you something

3202
02:30:51,520 --> 02:30:54,040
Speaker 6: real quick. Like a lot of times, like some of

3203
02:30:54,080 --> 02:30:55,360
Speaker 6: them want to get up on stage and say they

3204
02:30:55,440 --> 02:30:57,520
Speaker 6: know the hook and sing the hook invariably. And I've

3205
02:30:57,560 --> 02:30:59,640
Speaker 6: had this talk with Master G where you get to

3206
02:30:59,680 --> 02:31:01,400
Speaker 6: a certain place in the record and they think they

3207
02:31:01,520 --> 02:31:03,320
Speaker 6: know what's coming. Like after the first verse, you don't

3208
02:31:03,320 --> 02:31:03,879
Speaker 6: say you want it.

3209
02:31:03,920 --> 02:31:06,840
Speaker 1: You got it, it's huh huh.

3210
02:31:06,400 --> 02:31:08,400
Speaker 6: But girls will start singing you want it, you got

3211
02:31:08,480 --> 02:31:10,680
Speaker 6: it where it doesn't belong. And like in Rapper's Delight,

3212
02:31:11,040 --> 02:31:13,440
Speaker 6: when the first time you say hotel, motel, it's not

3213
02:31:13,560 --> 02:31:15,880
Speaker 6: holiday inn it's what you're gonna do today. But the

3214
02:31:15,959 --> 02:31:20,200
Speaker 6: first time they say hotel, motel, invariably somebody's like halladayen like, no, nigga,

3215
02:31:20,240 --> 02:31:25,560
Speaker 6: that's not it. You know, my first, my first hook

3216
02:31:25,600 --> 02:31:28,000
Speaker 6: I get to and like somebody say yeah, just to

3217
02:31:28,160 --> 02:31:30,840
Speaker 6: drown out the people singing singing you want it, you

3218
02:31:30,959 --> 02:31:33,480
Speaker 6: got it because they don't know it, and I need

3219
02:31:33,560 --> 02:31:35,240
Speaker 6: to know where I am to kind of you know,

3220
02:31:35,280 --> 02:31:39,120
Speaker 6: I mean go forward. So anyway, okay, this here is

3221
02:31:39,160 --> 02:31:41,360
Speaker 6: the jam for all the fellas. Try to do what

3222
02:31:41,560 --> 02:31:44,480
Speaker 6: those ladies tell us. Get shut down because you're over zepp.

3223
02:31:44,560 --> 02:31:47,920
Speaker 6: Let's play hard to get Females get jealous. Okay, somebody

3224
02:31:48,120 --> 02:31:50,400
Speaker 6: go to a party. Girls just can't they cloud and

3225
02:31:50,480 --> 02:31:52,920
Speaker 6: showing body. She walks by the witch shake us out

3226
02:31:53,240 --> 02:31:54,879
Speaker 6: up the standing on the wall like you is pointing

3227
02:31:54,959 --> 02:31:57,920
Speaker 6: that shot. Next day's function, high class watch it. Food

3228
02:31:58,040 --> 02:31:59,640
Speaker 6: is soup in your stone, cold bultive.

3229
02:32:00,080 --> 02:32:00,600
Speaker 1: It comes off.

3230
02:32:00,680 --> 02:32:03,000
Speaker 5: People start to dance, but you a so much nearly

3231
02:32:03,040 --> 02:32:03,840
Speaker 5: split your pants.

3232
02:32:04,160 --> 02:32:07,360
Speaker 6: Girl starts walking God start going sits down seeing you

3233
02:32:07,440 --> 02:32:09,600
Speaker 6: and starts talking since you want to dance because she

3234
02:32:09,760 --> 02:32:11,240
Speaker 6: likes the group, come on that so.

3235
02:32:11,400 --> 02:32:12,760
Speaker 1: And just bunts the move.

3236
02:32:14,920 --> 02:32:24,080
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, don't don't put false information out

3237
02:32:24,120 --> 02:32:25,240
Speaker 5: there that don't go there.

3238
02:32:28,080 --> 02:32:30,080
Speaker 3: Wait, can we do one more request? Do you know

3239
02:32:30,160 --> 02:32:30,960
Speaker 3: your verse off of this?

3240
02:32:31,520 --> 02:32:32,800
Speaker 1: We still? Do you know my verse of that?

3241
02:32:32,879 --> 02:32:32,959
Speaker 3: Oh?

3242
02:32:33,040 --> 02:32:35,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you've been you've been, Uh, I've been performed.

3243
02:32:35,520 --> 02:32:37,560
Speaker 1: I think this verse is so ill man.

3244
02:32:38,480 --> 02:32:39,920
Speaker 3: Okay, can you do it?

3245
02:32:40,240 --> 02:32:40,920
Speaker 5: Yes, I can do it.

3246
02:32:41,000 --> 02:32:44,000
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk to you. It's written. This was the

3247
02:32:45,040 --> 02:32:52,360
Speaker 1: yeah that I didn't that's fire. Yeah, but you just

3248
02:32:52,480 --> 02:32:53,320
Speaker 1: let him get his verse.

3249
02:32:53,360 --> 02:32:56,640
Speaker 7: No, no, no, no, no, nobody was supposed to remember

3250
02:32:56,640 --> 02:32:59,760
Speaker 7: it looking No, I've been performing it.

3251
02:33:00,959 --> 02:33:04,080
Speaker 6: No, but it's interesting and above the lad Yeah. Yeah,

3252
02:33:04,120 --> 02:33:06,920
Speaker 6: shout out, yeah, shout out to hutch Man. Gotta leave

3253
02:33:07,400 --> 02:33:11,240
Speaker 6: ice team. Michele A miche A Oaktown three five to

3254
02:33:11,360 --> 02:33:15,040
Speaker 6: seven Hammer Digital, Hey, jj fad Come on man, And

3255
02:33:15,160 --> 02:33:16,000
Speaker 6: that's a single version.

3256
02:33:16,000 --> 02:33:16,680
Speaker 5: I only got eight.

3257
02:33:17,320 --> 02:33:19,200
Speaker 6: I only got eight in the Uh could you do

3258
02:33:19,440 --> 02:33:24,920
Speaker 6: in the single version? Yeah, brothers kill another brothers. I

3259
02:33:24,959 --> 02:33:27,400
Speaker 6: thought the idea was to love one another, open up

3260
02:33:27,440 --> 02:33:29,720
Speaker 6: the paper to one more death. If y'all keep this up,

3261
02:33:29,760 --> 02:33:32,000
Speaker 6: then there'd be no one left. I try my best

3262
02:33:32,160 --> 02:33:34,600
Speaker 6: to send an example, say in hype lyrics over hip

3263
02:33:34,640 --> 02:33:36,760
Speaker 6: hop samples, not just to brag up the boats, but

3264
02:33:36,879 --> 02:33:39,400
Speaker 6: to inform because we're living in the carn before the storm.

3265
02:33:39,440 --> 02:33:39,760
Speaker 1: You see.

3266
02:33:40,120 --> 02:33:42,240
Speaker 6: I believe that the children of the future. But what's

3267
02:33:42,240 --> 02:33:43,800
Speaker 6: it all about if in the future they shoot you.

3268
02:33:43,959 --> 02:33:45,880
Speaker 6: We're all human beings. If a cut would bleed that.

3269
02:33:45,959 --> 02:33:48,600
Speaker 6: I want to see all young people succeed. Do nine

3270
02:33:48,640 --> 02:33:51,120
Speaker 6: to five, not five to ten. Just go to work

3271
02:33:51,160 --> 02:33:53,320
Speaker 6: and not the state, penn because you live better when

3272
02:33:53,320 --> 02:33:55,400
Speaker 6: you're out here free. That's coming straight to you from

3273
02:33:55,440 --> 02:33:55,959
Speaker 6: the young MC.

3274
02:33:56,200 --> 02:34:01,800
Speaker 5: Come on, I will classic with that.

3275
02:34:02,720 --> 02:34:05,000
Speaker 6: I perform it better now than I wrote it. But

3276
02:34:05,280 --> 02:34:08,800
Speaker 6: just the cadence to have that on a West Coast

3277
02:34:08,840 --> 02:34:12,680
Speaker 6: record in nineteen ninety was not done the way you

3278
02:34:12,760 --> 02:34:15,080
Speaker 6: came into It's just like, yeah, they have been walking.

3279
02:34:15,160 --> 02:34:16,119
Speaker 1: It was in the white Yeah.

3280
02:34:16,640 --> 02:34:19,119
Speaker 4: But you know what's the crazy thing about that message.

3281
02:34:19,320 --> 02:34:22,680
Speaker 4: It's like we still have to have that same message now.

3282
02:34:23,640 --> 02:34:23,840
Speaker 1: See.

3283
02:34:23,879 --> 02:34:26,720
Speaker 5: But that's the thing. The brilliance of my conception is

3284
02:34:26,800 --> 02:34:28,320
Speaker 5: knowing that I could give that message.

3285
02:34:28,320 --> 02:34:29,119
Speaker 1: I'm not going to talk.

3286
02:34:29,000 --> 02:34:31,640
Speaker 5: About sets and places and things I don't know about.

3287
02:34:31,640 --> 02:34:32,400
Speaker 1: I'm not going to do that.

3288
02:34:32,560 --> 02:34:36,080
Speaker 6: And we didn't even have to have a discussion I'm

3289
02:34:36,160 --> 02:34:39,440
Speaker 6: on here. People are listening, They're expecting one thing. Let

3290
02:34:39,520 --> 02:34:42,520
Speaker 6: me give them, you know what I'm feeling, and even

3291
02:34:42,560 --> 02:34:44,480
Speaker 6: getting on stage that like, there's some places I don't

3292
02:34:44,520 --> 02:34:46,360
Speaker 6: do it where the record doesn't resonate as much now,

3293
02:34:46,400 --> 02:34:49,400
Speaker 6: but I want to do that verse and it's you know, yeah, man,

3294
02:34:49,640 --> 02:34:50,160
Speaker 6: it's good.

3295
02:34:50,360 --> 02:34:53,119
Speaker 4: No, But I mean, in general for the black people

3296
02:34:53,200 --> 02:34:56,720
Speaker 4: on hip podcast, the fact that that record is still

3297
02:34:56,840 --> 02:34:59,880
Speaker 4: relevant because we're still going through that type of can

3298
02:35:00,000 --> 02:35:02,519
Speaker 4: additions in the communities.

3299
02:35:03,760 --> 02:35:06,880
Speaker 1: What do you think that's destruction as well? Like self

3300
02:35:06,920 --> 02:35:09,560
Speaker 1: destruction is same thing. Like these records were actually dope.

3301
02:35:09,840 --> 02:35:13,800
Speaker 3: They were dope records with great messages that resonated, and

3302
02:35:14,000 --> 02:35:16,080
Speaker 3: now it's like it feels like we can't do those records.

3303
02:35:16,160 --> 02:35:16,920
Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing.

3304
02:35:17,000 --> 02:35:18,680
Speaker 6: You remember this as both of you probably remember this

3305
02:35:18,720 --> 02:35:20,800
Speaker 6: as kids. You know, when some crazy shit would happen

3306
02:35:20,840 --> 02:35:22,920
Speaker 6: in the hood or crazy stuff would happen and it

3307
02:35:23,080 --> 02:35:25,760
Speaker 6: didn't make the news and nobody talked about it except

3308
02:35:26,000 --> 02:35:27,640
Speaker 6: in the neighborhood people that saw it.

3309
02:35:27,720 --> 02:35:28,320
Speaker 1: Story to story.

3310
02:35:28,720 --> 02:35:31,480
Speaker 6: With the Internet, that doesn't happen any little thing, crazy

3311
02:35:31,520 --> 02:35:35,200
Speaker 6: thing that someone does, it's worldwide. So not saying that

3312
02:35:35,240 --> 02:35:37,200
Speaker 6: there's less going on now, but what there is going

3313
02:35:37,280 --> 02:35:39,680
Speaker 6: on now is amplified so much in a way that

3314
02:35:39,920 --> 02:35:42,560
Speaker 6: wasn't before. So there's no sweeping under the rug, there's

3315
02:35:42,600 --> 02:35:45,800
Speaker 6: no keeping it on the low. Everything's just blasted out there.

3316
02:35:46,000 --> 02:35:47,680
Speaker 6: So you see the need for it, but you're seeing

3317
02:35:47,720 --> 02:35:50,280
Speaker 6: the need for it a record like that in the

3318
02:35:50,400 --> 02:35:54,760
Speaker 6: context of every little piece of news being amplified like

3319
02:35:54,879 --> 02:35:57,039
Speaker 6: it's you know, on the six o'clock.

3320
02:35:56,800 --> 02:36:01,560
Speaker 1: News amplified without context as well, Yes, yes, because because

3321
02:36:01,560 --> 02:36:04,280
Speaker 1: everybody has short attentions. So who, why, where or now?

3322
02:36:04,360 --> 02:36:05,000
Speaker 1: Now what happened?

3323
02:36:05,040 --> 02:36:07,960
Speaker 3: Oh? You know, once again, everybody's polarized as to what's

3324
02:36:08,040 --> 02:36:09,360
Speaker 3: going on right right?

3325
02:36:10,000 --> 02:36:13,440
Speaker 5: So if I go on your iPod right now, I

3326
02:36:13,520 --> 02:36:14,800
Speaker 5: don't know, no an iPod, but I hate you?

3327
02:36:15,240 --> 02:36:20,000
Speaker 1: But your music select? Yeah you did yourself? Yeah my bad.

3328
02:36:20,840 --> 02:36:23,800
Speaker 1: Who is the young MC to you?

3329
02:36:26,360 --> 02:36:26,600
Speaker 7: Wow?

3330
02:36:27,080 --> 02:36:29,760
Speaker 1: Who is a young MC that reminds you of young MC?

3331
02:36:30,040 --> 02:36:36,800
Speaker 1: To you? I don't you know? Yeah, man, I mean

3332
02:36:36,879 --> 02:36:38,840
Speaker 1: leading the witness? I mean, who are you back there

3333
02:36:38,879 --> 02:36:44,119
Speaker 1: with your baby blue outfit? Well that's the thing I mean.

3334
02:36:47,160 --> 02:36:52,760
Speaker 6: I I have love for Jake Cole because the idea

3335
02:36:52,879 --> 02:36:55,040
Speaker 6: of and and and even you know, Drake to a

3336
02:36:55,080 --> 02:36:57,119
Speaker 6: certain extent, the idea of singing and rapping with two

3337
02:36:57,120 --> 02:36:59,280
Speaker 6: different things. In my day, like you couldn't become melodic

3338
02:36:59,360 --> 02:37:02,119
Speaker 6: in a song without being considered a different type of artry.

3339
02:37:02,200 --> 02:37:04,120
Speaker 1: Eric Simon was one of the earliest people I remember

3340
02:37:04,280 --> 02:37:06,160
Speaker 1: trying to do that right and Jake Cole got out

3341
02:37:06,200 --> 02:37:13,400
Speaker 1: of that beef immediately and he did the right thing.

3342
02:37:13,640 --> 02:37:17,960
Speaker 6: So I listened to a lot of people just to

3343
02:37:18,080 --> 02:37:20,920
Speaker 6: see where they're taking the music, you know, I mean,

3344
02:37:21,360 --> 02:37:23,000
Speaker 6: like what they're doing, what they're doing with the music.

3345
02:37:23,080 --> 02:37:26,400
Speaker 6: So there's not one specific MC that I'm like, oh,

3346
02:37:26,800 --> 02:37:28,840
Speaker 6: waving a flight. Drake's done a lot. Drake has done

3347
02:37:28,840 --> 02:37:32,160
Speaker 6: a lot in terms of establishing fan base, in terms

3348
02:37:32,200 --> 02:37:34,000
Speaker 6: of the different types of records he makes.

3349
02:37:34,600 --> 02:37:37,879
Speaker 5: And Kendrick is a lyricist, you know, he's a lot

3350
02:37:37,959 --> 02:37:38,560
Speaker 5: for lyricism.

3351
02:37:38,680 --> 02:37:39,520
Speaker 1: Now, well, here's the thing.

3352
02:37:39,600 --> 02:37:42,760
Speaker 6: Now, I'm coming from a time when lyricism and West

3353
02:37:42,800 --> 02:37:45,480
Speaker 6: Coast were never set in the same sentence. So if

3354
02:37:45,560 --> 02:37:48,000
Speaker 6: you are going to somebody who lives on the East Coast,

3355
02:37:48,080 --> 02:37:52,760
Speaker 6: now they could literally say Kendrick Lamar is the best lyricist.

3356
02:37:53,200 --> 02:37:56,680
Speaker 6: I never thought I would ever hear anyone outside of

3357
02:37:56,760 --> 02:37:58,480
Speaker 6: the West Coast saying that a West Coast artist was

3358
02:37:58,560 --> 02:38:00,920
Speaker 6: the best lyricist or represented lyricism in a way that

3359
02:38:01,000 --> 02:38:04,280
Speaker 6: Kendrick is. Now, So like all of those things, all

3360
02:38:04,360 --> 02:38:06,840
Speaker 6: of those artists, I look and I can, I can

3361
02:38:06,879 --> 02:38:09,800
Speaker 6: appreciate different elements of you know, what they do battles.

3362
02:38:09,879 --> 02:38:14,879
Speaker 6: Notwithstanding Kendrick being known as the consummate lyricists and being

3363
02:38:14,920 --> 02:38:17,640
Speaker 6: from the West Coast, shows an evolution of hip hop

3364
02:38:17,720 --> 02:38:19,440
Speaker 6: that I did not think I would see in my lifetime.

3365
02:38:19,680 --> 02:38:20,400
Speaker 1: Just did not think.

3366
02:38:21,360 --> 02:38:24,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, because the perception of the coast, of the perception,

3367
02:38:24,680 --> 02:38:27,400
Speaker 3: the perception of the Cube, I think was respected as

3368
02:38:27,400 --> 02:38:27,760
Speaker 3: the lyrics.

3369
02:38:27,840 --> 02:38:31,960
Speaker 6: No, Cube was respected as a lyricist. But the thing

3370
02:38:32,200 --> 02:38:38,440
Speaker 6: was is that Cube was such a figure with n

3371
02:38:38,560 --> 02:38:39,880
Speaker 6: w A with what he said.

3372
02:38:40,400 --> 02:38:44,200
Speaker 5: It's just different now in terms of you know, a

3373
02:38:44,360 --> 02:38:49,320
Speaker 5: backpacker will look at at Kendrick and Kendrick's lyrics, and

3374
02:38:49,360 --> 02:38:52,879
Speaker 5: Kendrick's lyrics are pro lyrical like Kendrick happens because he's

3375
02:38:52,920 --> 02:38:56,160
Speaker 5: influenced by so many things and people. You know, So

3376
02:38:56,280 --> 02:38:57,840
Speaker 5: someone like Kendrick on the West Coast on.

3377
02:38:57,840 --> 02:39:02,760
Speaker 1: A different stage, a different stage. Yeah, So so no,

3378
02:39:03,560 --> 02:39:05,480
Speaker 1: all respected c all respected Cube.

3379
02:39:05,800 --> 02:39:10,279
Speaker 6: I'm looking at it that this was a lyrical exercise,

3380
02:39:10,920 --> 02:39:14,440
Speaker 6: and and you know, all kinds of subject matters all

3381
02:39:14,480 --> 02:39:14,959
Speaker 6: over the place.

3382
02:39:15,000 --> 02:39:16,640
Speaker 5: And and Kendrick is regarded as the.

3383
02:39:16,720 --> 02:39:19,920
Speaker 3: Lyricist because because I think LA did have a hub

3384
02:39:20,000 --> 02:39:20,640
Speaker 3: for lyricism.

3385
02:39:20,720 --> 02:39:27,320
Speaker 1: You had like the exhibits, the alcoholics. Yeah, game is

3386
02:39:27,320 --> 02:39:32,520
Speaker 1: a lyricist, the loonies like no, no, even quick.

3387
02:39:32,560 --> 02:39:35,880
Speaker 6: But I'm saying in terms of but you, if you

3388
02:39:36,000 --> 02:39:39,480
Speaker 6: went out of the West Coast sphere, influence a lot

3389
02:39:39,520 --> 02:39:41,320
Speaker 6: of those names exactly.

3390
02:39:41,760 --> 02:39:42,640
Speaker 1: Now it translates.

3391
02:39:43,280 --> 02:39:45,320
Speaker 6: Now it translates, there's somebody in Brooklyn, there's somebody in

3392
02:39:45,360 --> 02:39:47,000
Speaker 6: the Bronx that will say Kendrick living no more the

3393
02:39:47,040 --> 02:39:48,039
Speaker 6: best lyricists that.

3394
02:39:48,440 --> 02:39:51,400
Speaker 3: Nobody on the West Coast is ever considered potentially the

3395
02:39:51,640 --> 02:39:57,200
Speaker 3: king hip hop, right, the top tier, right, But now

3396
02:39:57,320 --> 02:39:57,879
Speaker 3: it does.

3397
02:39:59,280 --> 02:40:00,400
Speaker 1: Lyricists lyrics.

3398
02:40:00,600 --> 02:40:03,440
Speaker 4: I mean that Carcert, when I seen that Kindred concert,

3399
02:40:03,560 --> 02:40:07,320
Speaker 4: it did seem like that he was being crowned the king.

3400
02:40:07,560 --> 02:40:09,320
Speaker 3: Like you have like the jay Z's, the Nods, the

3401
02:40:09,360 --> 02:40:11,040
Speaker 3: biggest liked.

3402
02:40:11,959 --> 02:40:15,160
Speaker 4: Even though it was a West Coast or collaboration and

3403
02:40:15,200 --> 02:40:17,440
Speaker 4: all that, But it didn't that night when I watched

3404
02:40:17,480 --> 02:40:20,440
Speaker 4: that Carcert, it seemed like he was being crowned king

3405
02:40:20,640 --> 02:40:21,400
Speaker 4: of hip hop.

3406
02:40:21,520 --> 02:40:23,039
Speaker 3: That's what I think, That's what I think people need

3407
02:40:23,080 --> 02:40:25,840
Speaker 3: to understand. Like it's a it's a it's a pro

3408
02:40:26,040 --> 02:40:28,280
Speaker 3: for hip hop, it's a positive for hip hop. You

3409
02:40:28,360 --> 02:40:30,160
Speaker 3: could love what's happening there and not have to be

3410
02:40:30,240 --> 02:40:30,880
Speaker 3: against Drake.

3411
02:40:31,240 --> 02:40:34,080
Speaker 1: You don't have to be a Drake.

3412
02:40:35,320 --> 02:40:38,800
Speaker 6: Drake has done things that Drake has done things that

3413
02:40:38,879 --> 02:40:41,199
Speaker 6: no one has done in hip hop, and he's he's

3414
02:40:41,360 --> 02:40:45,000
Speaker 6: been able to he's been able to open open things

3415
02:40:45,080 --> 02:40:45,720
Speaker 6: up to a new.

3416
02:40:45,680 --> 02:40:47,720
Speaker 5: Audience and just his approach and come nationally.

3417
02:40:48,360 --> 02:40:50,160
Speaker 6: And there's been so many rappers that have come from

3418
02:40:50,200 --> 02:40:52,480
Speaker 6: mixtapes that weren't able to translate it into albums and

3419
02:40:52,560 --> 02:40:52,920
Speaker 6: he has.

3420
02:40:53,440 --> 02:40:56,160
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, there's usually guys that he comes from the mixtape.

3421
02:40:56,480 --> 02:40:59,840
Speaker 6: There's there's dudes that that there's dudes that did mixtapes

3422
02:41:00,080 --> 02:41:02,800
Speaker 6: okay at it and become amazing artists. And the dudes

3423
02:41:02,840 --> 02:41:05,480
Speaker 6: that were amazing on mixtapes and you don't hear much

3424
02:41:05,520 --> 02:41:07,320
Speaker 6: about it, or the first album comes out and it's not,

3425
02:41:07,959 --> 02:41:10,760
Speaker 6: you know, cohesive enough for people to really digest it

3426
02:41:10,800 --> 02:41:13,920
Speaker 6: as an album. He seamlessly went into that that that's

3427
02:41:13,959 --> 02:41:14,600
Speaker 6: impressive to me.

3428
02:41:15,200 --> 02:41:19,400
Speaker 4: And what's dope is like you know, uh, you know,

3429
02:41:19,760 --> 02:41:21,640
Speaker 4: you know the world is probably trying to say that

3430
02:41:21,840 --> 02:41:24,320
Speaker 4: like that was a loss for him, But.

3431
02:41:25,800 --> 02:41:26,680
Speaker 1: The fact is, if he.

3432
02:41:26,720 --> 02:41:30,920
Speaker 4: Doesn't seem damaged, he'll be Okay, this, this, this, he's

3433
02:41:30,959 --> 02:41:31,880
Speaker 4: not He's not going away.

3434
02:41:32,040 --> 02:41:34,320
Speaker 6: I look at it because it's like how I said

3435
02:41:34,360 --> 02:41:37,160
Speaker 6: that that I get different inspirations from different artists.

3436
02:41:37,560 --> 02:41:39,920
Speaker 1: I see it as a different lane for him.

3437
02:41:40,160 --> 02:41:42,039
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just see it as a different lane.

3438
02:41:42,040 --> 02:41:45,119
Speaker 6: There's there's places that he goes and audiences he plays

3439
02:41:45,160 --> 02:41:47,720
Speaker 6: in front of that other people don't so you know,

3440
02:41:48,680 --> 02:41:50,760
Speaker 6: and and and same for Kendrick Sant for Jake Hole,

3441
02:41:50,920 --> 02:41:54,360
Speaker 6: Like they have their their their niches. So I don't

3442
02:41:54,440 --> 02:41:57,480
Speaker 6: necessarily see it. I see it really.

3443
02:41:57,560 --> 02:41:57,959
Speaker 3: What I see.

3444
02:41:58,000 --> 02:42:00,000
Speaker 6: The upshot of it is is that the record company

3445
02:42:00,280 --> 02:42:03,240
Speaker 6: are getting scared because you had guys making records in

3446
02:42:03,320 --> 02:42:03,920
Speaker 6: a week.

3447
02:42:04,680 --> 02:42:07,320
Speaker 7: Putting it up there it's the same record label, no no, no,

3448
02:42:07,440 --> 02:42:09,400
Speaker 7: no no. But but my thing is this that the

3449
02:42:09,440 --> 02:42:10,959
Speaker 7: scope on Universe was the same people.

3450
02:42:11,040 --> 02:42:11,800
Speaker 5: But here's the point.

3451
02:42:12,760 --> 02:42:14,880
Speaker 6: These records were conceived of in a week, put up,

3452
02:42:14,920 --> 02:42:17,600
Speaker 6: and then they take down the top artists that you've

3453
02:42:17,600 --> 02:42:18,840
Speaker 6: been planning with all.

3454
02:42:18,800 --> 02:42:23,039
Speaker 1: Your stop putting it without that record, because.

3455
02:42:24,560 --> 02:42:28,199
Speaker 6: So regardless of what label, all right there in one lane,

3456
02:42:28,320 --> 02:42:30,720
Speaker 6: but one artist or two artists can get into a

3457
02:42:30,840 --> 02:42:32,959
Speaker 6: beef and be putting out records to the point where

3458
02:42:33,000 --> 02:42:34,039
Speaker 6: major labels are like your.

3459
02:42:34,240 --> 02:42:36,680
Speaker 1: Pop artists to show up as well.

3460
02:42:36,840 --> 02:42:39,040
Speaker 6: Two hip hop artists can get into a beef be

3461
02:42:39,080 --> 02:42:41,000
Speaker 6: putting out records to the where the major label says

3462
02:42:41,040 --> 02:42:42,720
Speaker 6: you rock, act, you popack, You're gonna have to.

3463
02:42:42,760 --> 02:42:46,160
Speaker 5: Wait until he's dues. Feud is old true because everything

3464
02:42:46,240 --> 02:42:48,680
Speaker 5: we do with all other problems, can't fuck with this

3465
02:42:48,879 --> 02:42:53,360
Speaker 5: right now. That's crazy, dude. That's to me, that's the

3466
02:42:54,800 --> 02:42:55,440
Speaker 5: shot of all of it.

3467
02:42:55,520 --> 02:42:58,200
Speaker 6: It's like, I'm it's like it's it's literally like a

3468
02:42:58,280 --> 02:42:59,560
Speaker 6: speedboat stopping a tanker.

3469
02:43:00,200 --> 02:43:02,359
Speaker 1: It's like, oh no, we got to let the speedboat

3470
02:43:02,400 --> 02:43:02,640
Speaker 1: go by.

3471
02:43:02,720 --> 02:43:04,640
Speaker 5: We got to let these two speedboats race it out,

3472
02:43:04,959 --> 02:43:05,400
Speaker 5: and we're.

3473
02:43:05,240 --> 02:43:07,920
Speaker 6: Going to stop this ocean line until they're done because

3474
02:43:07,920 --> 02:43:10,240
Speaker 6: they have the water right now, we don't have the water.

3475
02:43:11,080 --> 02:43:13,080
Speaker 5: That dude, that's the way you need to look at it.

3476
02:43:13,240 --> 02:43:17,640
Speaker 4: So Drake and Kendrick, I like to personally thank y'all.

3477
02:43:17,760 --> 02:43:23,199
Speaker 1: I have been fully entertained, and even I liked J Coles.

3478
02:43:23,560 --> 02:43:25,680
Speaker 1: I ain't like they just left so fast.

3479
02:43:25,920 --> 02:43:29,160
Speaker 6: But to me, no, And I'll defend you. I've never

3480
02:43:29,240 --> 02:43:31,160
Speaker 6: met him, but I'll defend him. That was a mature

3481
02:43:31,200 --> 02:43:32,040
Speaker 6: move on his part of that.

3482
02:43:32,480 --> 02:43:35,880
Speaker 1: That's how you feel, That's how you feel what he did.

3483
02:43:36,000 --> 02:43:36,160
Speaker 3: Man.

3484
02:43:36,680 --> 02:43:38,720
Speaker 1: You know, I saw that.

3485
02:43:41,280 --> 02:43:41,760
Speaker 2: I saw.

3486
02:43:44,080 --> 02:43:46,480
Speaker 6: I saw an interview with DJ Head, who was the

3487
02:43:46,560 --> 02:43:50,400
Speaker 6: DJ that never never met him, but he was a

3488
02:43:50,480 --> 02:43:51,760
Speaker 6: big boy who I met nothing. You know.

3489
02:43:51,840 --> 02:43:53,199
Speaker 1: So I'm watching an interview.

3490
02:43:53,000 --> 02:43:55,360
Speaker 6: And he said that he's only listening to meet the

3491
02:43:55,440 --> 02:43:58,520
Speaker 6: Grahams only four or five times because it affected you know,

3492
02:43:58,879 --> 02:44:02,800
Speaker 6: it affected his spirit listening to it. I respect him.

3493
02:44:02,840 --> 02:44:10,360
Speaker 6: He's in Kendrick Lamar's crew, you mean, he's he's in

3494
02:44:10,480 --> 02:44:13,160
Speaker 6: that circle, and he felt the comfort to be able

3495
02:44:13,200 --> 02:44:14,760
Speaker 6: to you know, to say that, to say that that's

3496
02:44:14,920 --> 02:44:18,360
Speaker 6: what you know, what's what's in his heart. To me,

3497
02:44:18,600 --> 02:44:21,360
Speaker 6: that's shows such a growth that everybody doesn't have to

3498
02:44:21,440 --> 02:44:24,320
Speaker 6: be like, you know, like okay, you know whatever happens

3499
02:44:24,360 --> 02:44:25,400
Speaker 6: with blindly following that.

3500
02:44:25,520 --> 02:44:27,039
Speaker 5: That's show such a level of maturity.

3501
02:44:27,560 --> 02:44:31,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, like once again, my day wouldn't see that you

3502
02:44:31,160 --> 02:44:33,280
Speaker 6: with me or you against me. You can't say anything

3503
02:44:33,320 --> 02:44:36,040
Speaker 6: that you can't. Then It's like there's so much of

3504
02:44:36,160 --> 02:44:38,360
Speaker 6: that that made me feel so good that I was

3505
02:44:38,440 --> 02:44:40,680
Speaker 6: even involved back in the day.

3506
02:44:41,400 --> 02:44:44,120
Speaker 4: If if back then you would have had Twitter, you

3507
02:44:44,200 --> 02:44:46,320
Speaker 4: think you would have been out here in d ms.

3508
02:44:47,560 --> 02:44:49,879
Speaker 1: Out here in d you know what what does that mean?

3509
02:44:50,360 --> 02:44:52,200
Speaker 1: You know what it means. I know what it means.

3510
02:44:52,920 --> 02:44:54,640
Speaker 6: I may have been even if I didn't want to be,

3511
02:44:54,920 --> 02:44:57,120
Speaker 6: even if I didn't type the d MS. You know,

3512
02:44:57,240 --> 02:44:59,080
Speaker 6: somebody would type something to me and then then then

3513
02:44:59,320 --> 02:45:01,880
Speaker 6: post that, you know what I mean. So there's a

3514
02:45:02,040 --> 02:45:03,680
Speaker 6: there's a lot of us that are thankful that social

3515
02:45:03,720 --> 02:45:05,640
Speaker 6: media wasn't you know, it wasn't what it was. It's

3516
02:45:05,920 --> 02:45:07,520
Speaker 6: some of the stories that I know, you know what

3517
02:45:07,520 --> 02:45:11,280
Speaker 6: I'm saying, and something just oh yeah, absolutely, because y'all

3518
02:45:11,400 --> 02:45:12,400
Speaker 6: was a living wild back then.

3519
02:45:12,640 --> 02:45:19,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah yeah one week. No, it's true, you

3520
02:45:19,800 --> 02:45:22,400
Speaker 1: had one year and it looked like one week. Dude,

3521
02:45:22,440 --> 02:45:24,000
Speaker 1: it was it was one weement. I had enough.

3522
02:45:24,200 --> 02:45:24,680
Speaker 5: I had enough.

3523
02:45:26,240 --> 02:45:26,840
Speaker 1: It was crazy.

3524
02:45:27,240 --> 02:45:29,080
Speaker 5: But but but but but but yeah.

3525
02:45:29,120 --> 02:45:30,240
Speaker 1: But that's the thing, dude, it's like.

3526
02:45:31,800 --> 02:45:32,280
Speaker 3: I learned.

3527
02:45:32,360 --> 02:45:35,160
Speaker 6: I learned from my experiences. That's that's why I'm still here.

3528
02:45:35,400 --> 02:45:37,560
Speaker 6: That's why I'm you know. That's why I'm still good.

3529
02:45:37,720 --> 02:45:42,280
Speaker 4: What's your favorite part of the culture, Like, if you

3530
02:45:42,320 --> 02:45:44,959
Speaker 4: could praise one thing about the culture, it's this dude.

3531
02:45:45,240 --> 02:45:47,080
Speaker 6: You know, it's it's funny because I'm here with you whatever.

3532
02:45:47,120 --> 02:45:50,000
Speaker 6: It's the camaraderie. You and I don't know each other

3533
02:45:50,120 --> 02:45:51,760
Speaker 6: very well. We've only met each other, you know, a

3534
02:45:51,760 --> 02:45:52,280
Speaker 6: couple of times.

3535
02:45:52,320 --> 02:45:55,600
Speaker 5: But like we could hang, we could have discussions.

3536
02:45:55,640 --> 02:45:57,600
Speaker 1: We could you know, we could look we love hip hop.

3537
02:45:57,959 --> 02:45:59,600
Speaker 5: I love hip hop. So it's like it's like us

3538
02:45:59,640 --> 02:46:01,080
Speaker 5: playing a sport.

3539
02:46:01,160 --> 02:46:02,840
Speaker 1: This part of my family, I'm a part of yours.

3540
02:46:03,280 --> 02:46:05,520
Speaker 5: It's like us playing the same sport in two different leagues.

3541
02:46:05,879 --> 02:46:06,320
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

3542
02:46:06,400 --> 02:46:07,959
Speaker 6: We haven't played each other, you know what I'm saying.

3543
02:46:08,320 --> 02:46:11,359
Speaker 6: So that that kind of camaraderie. When I hit athletes

3544
02:46:11,400 --> 02:46:13,320
Speaker 6: that retire and say that that's what they meant. That's

3545
02:46:13,360 --> 02:46:15,240
Speaker 6: why I like all them questions you asked if you

3546
02:46:15,320 --> 02:46:17,240
Speaker 6: had anybody that was on the nineties tour, I'm gonna

3547
02:46:17,240 --> 02:46:18,000
Speaker 6: pick them because.

3548
02:46:17,840 --> 02:46:18,480
Speaker 5: They're like family.

3549
02:46:19,840 --> 02:46:22,720
Speaker 6: You know, a couple of hundred shows in the middle

3550
02:46:22,760 --> 02:46:26,200
Speaker 6: of nowhere, all the jokes sitting around there was there

3551
02:46:26,280 --> 02:46:29,039
Speaker 6: was one Since COVID it's been very difficult to find

3552
02:46:29,080 --> 02:46:31,920
Speaker 6: people to clean hotel rooms. So invariably we'll be sitting

3553
02:46:32,680 --> 02:46:35,240
Speaker 6: a bunch of us for hours in hotel lobbies, in

3554
02:46:35,320 --> 02:46:36,240
Speaker 6: the smallest places.

3555
02:46:36,800 --> 02:46:40,480
Speaker 5: So me tone Montel Jordan sitting.

3556
02:46:40,240 --> 02:46:43,080
Speaker 6: In the lobby talking at least a couple of hours,

3557
02:46:43,120 --> 02:46:48,000
Speaker 6: stories coming do it man, Just fun, just just just

3558
02:46:48,200 --> 02:46:48,600
Speaker 6: just fun.

3559
02:46:49,360 --> 02:46:50,640
Speaker 5: Yes, we caught.

3560
02:46:58,280 --> 02:47:02,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I see. I kept talking like I yeah, but

3561
02:47:02,160 --> 02:47:03,920
Speaker 1: you know what, you are very correct man.

3562
02:47:04,040 --> 02:47:06,800
Speaker 4: You know, like I said I was saying earlier, like

3563
02:47:06,920 --> 02:47:09,240
Speaker 4: how going on the road with somebody like you get

3564
02:47:09,280 --> 02:47:11,800
Speaker 4: to learn that people, You get to understand that certain

3565
02:47:11,800 --> 02:47:14,160
Speaker 4: people feastink and you be like, damn man, you know,

3566
02:47:14,240 --> 02:47:16,320
Speaker 4: I don't want to be around him and this hotelbum.

3567
02:47:16,640 --> 02:47:21,960
Speaker 4: But I realized that I would do this show in

3568
02:47:22,240 --> 02:47:25,320
Speaker 4: ninety seven and it was called a Hot Night Jamaica, right,

3569
02:47:25,840 --> 02:47:27,920
Speaker 4: and we would go there and everybody who I went

3570
02:47:28,040 --> 02:47:30,320
Speaker 4: there with always formed the relationship with.

3571
02:47:30,520 --> 02:47:32,960
Speaker 1: Like, and it's because of what you just said.

3572
02:47:33,000 --> 02:47:36,400
Speaker 7: It's just like, you know, we we we're a fraternity

3573
02:47:36,480 --> 02:47:38,360
Speaker 7: without calling ourselves on a fraternity, what is it?

3574
02:47:38,520 --> 02:47:39,080
Speaker 1: That's what it is.

3575
02:47:39,920 --> 02:47:41,920
Speaker 6: I've not seen mix a lot. I had not seen

3576
02:47:42,000 --> 02:47:44,000
Speaker 6: mix a lot in a couple of years and we

3577
02:47:44,240 --> 02:47:46,680
Speaker 6: just had a show. I want to say it was

3578
02:47:47,080 --> 02:47:49,480
Speaker 6: Was it outside of Sir mix a lot? Yeah, Sir

3579
02:47:49,560 --> 02:47:52,560
Speaker 6: mix a lot. Oh Man, I want to say, no,

3580
02:47:52,640 --> 02:47:58,400
Speaker 6: it wasn't Memphis, outside of Tulsa, ok Mogi Oklahoma. I

3581
02:47:58,480 --> 02:48:05,840
Speaker 6: want to say me Tone Lo, Rob Bass, Tretch from

3582
02:48:05,879 --> 02:48:13,520
Speaker 6: Naughty by Nature, Sir mix a lot, and and I

3583
02:48:13,600 --> 02:48:15,800
Speaker 6: think and I think one, I think one other act.

3584
02:48:16,640 --> 02:48:18,680
Speaker 6: But we have not seen each other in a long time.

3585
02:48:18,760 --> 02:48:21,200
Speaker 6: And to get the picture and to sit and talk

3586
02:48:21,280 --> 02:48:23,720
Speaker 6: and whatever, it's like we never you know, we've never

3587
02:48:23,760 --> 02:48:25,680
Speaker 6: spent any time apart. I hadn't seen Tretch in a

3588
02:48:25,720 --> 02:48:27,879
Speaker 6: hot minute. He's supposed to come my wedding. He couldn't come,

3589
02:48:28,160 --> 02:48:31,720
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. It was just that feeling

3590
02:48:32,240 --> 02:48:34,200
Speaker 6: and being known to be a you know, to be

3591
02:48:34,280 --> 02:48:36,120
Speaker 6: a part of it, especially when guys can go out

3592
02:48:36,120 --> 02:48:38,160
Speaker 6: and see other guys sets like that new song. I

3593
02:48:38,200 --> 02:48:40,120
Speaker 6: can't wait to do that new song in front of Tratch.

3594
02:48:40,360 --> 02:48:42,160
Speaker 6: I think, I think, I think he's going to be

3595
02:48:42,200 --> 02:48:43,880
Speaker 6: with me tomorrow West Virginia. But I know over the

3596
02:48:43,959 --> 02:48:48,200
Speaker 6: next over the next two weeks to three weeks, I'm

3597
02:48:48,200 --> 02:48:49,480
Speaker 6: gonna do a show with him while I'll do that

3598
02:48:49,560 --> 02:48:51,640
Speaker 6: in front of him and just to get his reaction

3599
02:48:51,800 --> 02:48:53,640
Speaker 6: to it, and and you know, talk to him about

3600
02:48:53,640 --> 02:48:54,720
Speaker 6: what I'm doing and that kind of thing.

3601
02:48:55,080 --> 02:48:56,720
Speaker 5: It's great. You see them more than you see your

3602
02:48:56,840 --> 02:48:57,240
Speaker 5: your friends.

3603
02:48:57,280 --> 02:48:58,440
Speaker 6: You see them more than you see a lot of

3604
02:48:58,480 --> 02:49:02,400
Speaker 6: your family and and but there's a mutual respect. So

3605
02:49:02,560 --> 02:49:04,600
Speaker 6: that's why I'm still going at it, you know, at

3606
02:49:04,640 --> 02:49:05,080
Speaker 6: this age.

3607
02:49:05,320 --> 02:49:06,119
Speaker 1: God damn it. Man.

3608
02:49:06,240 --> 02:49:07,920
Speaker 4: I just want to thank you man for everything you

3609
02:49:08,040 --> 02:49:10,200
Speaker 4: do for hip hop. Man, Thank you man for being

3610
02:49:10,280 --> 02:49:11,440
Speaker 4: here on drink Champs.

3611
02:49:11,480 --> 02:49:14,560
Speaker 1: Man. I want to shout out. I got a shout

3612
02:49:14,600 --> 02:49:16,520
Speaker 1: out one person, absolutely continue my.

3613
02:49:17,280 --> 02:49:20,800
Speaker 6: Best friend, best man at my wedding, Antonio Knox, young

3614
02:49:20,920 --> 02:49:23,959
Speaker 6: rapper that I did a meta mass came out of Baltimore.

3615
02:49:24,520 --> 02:49:27,480
Speaker 6: But he has been such an inspiration to me and

3616
02:49:27,720 --> 02:49:30,000
Speaker 6: just kind of keeping me grounded and being a good

3617
02:49:30,040 --> 02:49:32,160
Speaker 6: sounding board. So when I told him I was doing this,

3618
02:49:32,280 --> 02:49:34,400
Speaker 6: He's like, yo, man, this is you know, he knew

3619
02:49:34,560 --> 02:49:37,000
Speaker 6: how big this was for me. And after all the discussions,

3620
02:49:37,000 --> 02:49:39,000
Speaker 6: like a lot of the answers I gave, I've discussed

3621
02:49:39,040 --> 02:49:41,199
Speaker 6: with him. But I'm not throwing names out and whatever,

3622
02:49:41,320 --> 02:49:43,039
Speaker 6: but that Antonio Knox is my man.

3623
02:49:43,280 --> 02:49:44,600
Speaker 1: Well, big him up.

3624
02:49:44,680 --> 02:49:47,119
Speaker 4: But let us tell you man like, you know when

3625
02:49:47,160 --> 02:49:51,480
Speaker 4: we give these people flowers, when we y'are heroes, man like,

3626
02:49:51,520 --> 02:49:54,000
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying to me everybody, And I

3627
02:49:54,200 --> 02:49:56,320
Speaker 4: know how it feels, man, I know how it feels

3628
02:49:56,360 --> 02:49:57,360
Speaker 4: to walk in those shoes.

3629
02:49:57,680 --> 02:49:59,520
Speaker 1: I know how it feels to be in those locker rooms?

3630
02:50:00,080 --> 02:50:00,200
Speaker 1: Is it?

3631
02:50:00,920 --> 02:50:02,640
Speaker 4: And you know what I'm saying. So what we do

3632
02:50:02,879 --> 02:50:06,520
Speaker 4: is so much, you know, sometimes underrated. You know what

3633
02:50:06,560 --> 02:50:09,160
Speaker 4: I mean that you just I just I just I

3634
02:50:09,280 --> 02:50:11,560
Speaker 4: love I love this man. I was so excited to

3635
02:50:11,959 --> 02:50:14,440
Speaker 4: have you come through. We were betting on you. I

3636
02:50:14,560 --> 02:50:15,160
Speaker 4: lost the bet.

3637
02:50:15,800 --> 02:50:17,560
Speaker 1: I lost the bet. Now when you think you think

3638
02:50:17,600 --> 02:50:21,039
Speaker 1: I got you, like, no, no, no, we bet on time,

3639
02:50:21,480 --> 02:50:23,720
Speaker 1: this guy. We bet on time. I said you be

3640
02:50:23,800 --> 02:50:25,080
Speaker 1: here three forty five.

3641
02:50:25,240 --> 02:50:27,200
Speaker 6: Me and me and Jason went out and we had

3642
02:50:27,240 --> 02:50:29,640
Speaker 6: sushi down the street. That's the only reason it's too many.

3643
02:50:32,000 --> 02:50:34,800
Speaker 1: I don't know what they're talking about, man, artists. But

3644
02:50:35,000 --> 02:50:37,480
Speaker 1: you know what's crazy. As an artist, I always can't relate.

3645
02:50:37,600 --> 02:50:41,200
Speaker 4: But then as a businessman, I never I always did

3646
02:50:41,320 --> 02:50:43,520
Speaker 4: so early, but I always understand.

3647
02:50:43,640 --> 02:50:46,920
Speaker 1: But we got him. We got him. Look this is

3648
02:50:48,120 --> 02:50:52,119
Speaker 1: he said that if he had the pickup beat between

3649
02:50:52,280 --> 02:50:54,879
Speaker 1: anybody in the world to save the world. He would

3650
02:51:00,560 --> 02:51:05,160
Speaker 1: steel great to meet you, man, he said, if he

3651
02:51:05,280 --> 02:51:07,680
Speaker 1: can saved the world, he will think you to make

3652
02:51:07,720 --> 02:51:08,000
Speaker 1: the beat.

3653
02:51:08,040 --> 02:51:10,000
Speaker 5: He's got where's the volume on this, oh ship?

3654
02:51:10,520 --> 02:51:11,400
Speaker 1: Who's whose phone? Is it?

3655
02:51:12,000 --> 02:51:12,480
Speaker 3: Make the beat?

3656
02:51:12,520 --> 02:51:12,640
Speaker 7: Bro?

3657
02:51:13,560 --> 02:51:15,440
Speaker 1: You can tell he don't spend no money on his phone.

3658
02:51:17,480 --> 02:51:22,040
Speaker 1: My back, he knows, he knows. That's what you said.

3659
02:51:22,680 --> 02:51:25,320
Speaker 5: No, I'm down, dude. You know, feature whatever you want,

3660
02:51:25,480 --> 02:51:25,920
Speaker 5: you know what I mean.

3661
02:51:25,959 --> 02:51:27,480
Speaker 1: I'm down. I'm a big.

3662
02:51:27,360 --> 02:51:29,320
Speaker 6: Fan of your work, from what you did with you,

3663
02:51:29,600 --> 02:51:31,160
Speaker 6: from what you did with Cube and what you did

3664
02:51:31,200 --> 02:51:33,120
Speaker 6: with Methad. Man, I'm a big fan of your work

3665
02:51:33,120 --> 02:51:35,160
Speaker 6: and you inspired me as an artist and a producer. Dude,

3666
02:51:36,640 --> 02:51:39,520
Speaker 6: because because I've watched several episodes and nobody drops your name,

3667
02:51:39,560 --> 02:51:41,520
Speaker 6: I'm like, no, it would be you, and then the

3668
02:51:41,680 --> 02:51:44,039
Speaker 6: MC would be stirring wonder from boot Camp click.

3669
02:51:44,720 --> 02:51:46,480
Speaker 1: Oh wow. You know what I'm saying.

3670
02:51:47,360 --> 02:51:53,560
Speaker 5: Him down, so so absolutely man, So wonderful to meet you, dude. Likewise, likewise,

3671
02:51:53,879 --> 02:51:57,000
Speaker 5: my man, thank you, thank you.

3672
02:51:59,320 --> 02:52:03,879
Speaker 1: You got an upgreat your phone man, Yeah, man, it's

3673
02:52:03,959 --> 02:52:08,280
Speaker 1: just like a metro you got. What's what's the ship,

3674
02:52:08,520 --> 02:52:10,640
Speaker 1: what's the what's the next tail?

3675
02:52:10,720 --> 02:52:14,640
Speaker 4: It's not like you got the next tail? It's your phone, man,

3676
02:52:15,120 --> 02:52:18,120
Speaker 4: it's you. No, that was that was dope, man. I

3677
02:52:18,240 --> 02:52:20,720
Speaker 4: love that man, look to step off.

3678
02:52:21,400 --> 02:52:22,720
Speaker 1: You go. You donna come and take a shot for

3679
02:52:22,840 --> 02:52:23,560
Speaker 1: no reason. Let's go.

3680
02:52:26,720 --> 02:52:30,200
Speaker 4: This is the way it works. He's gonna take a

3681
02:52:30,240 --> 02:52:35,800
Speaker 4: shot for no reasons because you take it for young Yeah,

3682
02:52:35,959 --> 02:52:37,080
Speaker 4: just give him any shot.

3683
02:52:40,800 --> 02:52:42,720
Speaker 1: So this is anything. Let me let me ask you

3684
02:52:42,840 --> 02:52:50,560
Speaker 1: this sure. Is there anything you ever passed on that

3685
02:52:50,720 --> 02:52:51,240
Speaker 1: you regret?

3686
02:52:54,560 --> 02:52:55,279
Speaker 5: Specifically?

3687
02:52:56,879 --> 02:53:00,880
Speaker 6: I was such a I saw how bad sampling could

3688
02:53:00,879 --> 02:53:03,400
Speaker 6: get people in trouble. After what happened with three feet

3689
02:53:03,440 --> 02:53:06,360
Speaker 6: high and rising, and then and then uh yeah, and

3690
02:53:06,400 --> 02:53:12,440
Speaker 6: then and then the thank you, and then the uh gosh,

3691
02:53:12,520 --> 02:53:12,959
Speaker 6: what record?

3692
02:53:13,000 --> 02:53:13,880
Speaker 3: What record? What record?

3693
02:53:14,400 --> 02:53:17,680
Speaker 5: The bismarcky before all samples clear? The one they pulled.

3694
02:53:18,160 --> 02:53:21,480
Speaker 6: So I'm watching this and I'm saying, it's so much

3695
02:53:21,560 --> 02:53:24,240
Speaker 6: going on, And even even even some of my records,

3696
02:53:24,560 --> 02:53:27,200
Speaker 6: you know that weren't clear. They you know, stuff had

3697
02:53:27,240 --> 02:53:31,040
Speaker 6: to come back and be dealt with. So the record

3698
02:53:31,120 --> 02:53:33,800
Speaker 6: that would have been a single for me, I had

3699
02:53:33,840 --> 02:53:35,960
Speaker 6: a huge sample in it, and I chose not to

3700
02:53:36,040 --> 02:53:42,520
Speaker 6: go that route. Changed it around, And I didn't really

3701
02:53:42,600 --> 02:53:45,320
Speaker 6: realize at the time that a lot of what people

3702
02:53:45,480 --> 02:53:46,640
Speaker 6: liked about those records was the.

3703
02:53:46,640 --> 02:53:50,520
Speaker 4: Sample itself because they were familiar. What right, subconscious I

3704
02:53:50,640 --> 02:53:51,080
Speaker 4: just saw and.

3705
02:53:51,080 --> 02:53:52,840
Speaker 6: Bust and Move had samples in it, but they weren't

3706
02:53:53,040 --> 02:53:55,040
Speaker 6: well known. So my thought was, if you can get

3707
02:53:55,040 --> 02:53:58,440
Speaker 6: it to sound like a sample or sound like without

3708
02:53:58,480 --> 02:54:00,520
Speaker 6: it being something obvious, do you can win like that?

3709
02:54:00,680 --> 02:54:04,840
Speaker 6: Because I've had life experience doing that. But in hindsight,

3710
02:54:04,920 --> 02:54:08,400
Speaker 6: looking back, if I was more open to putting samples

3711
02:54:08,440 --> 02:54:12,480
Speaker 6: in my stuff back then, then I think I would

3712
02:54:12,480 --> 02:54:13,039
Speaker 6: have been able.

3713
02:54:12,879 --> 02:54:14,800
Speaker 5: To continue my career on a on a certain level

3714
02:54:14,840 --> 02:54:15,480
Speaker 5: a little bit longer.

3715
02:54:16,480 --> 02:54:18,920
Speaker 4: Okay, let me let me extend that question just a

3716
02:54:18,959 --> 02:54:22,080
Speaker 4: little bit, yes, sir, Let me relate it to an artist.

3717
02:54:22,200 --> 02:54:24,200
Speaker 4: Is there any artists that you had an opportunity to

3718
02:54:24,240 --> 02:54:26,280
Speaker 4: work with and you didn't have to do that?

3719
02:54:27,120 --> 02:54:27,360
Speaker 1: You know.

3720
02:54:28,959 --> 02:54:30,879
Speaker 5: I would, I would say no, I mean.

3721
02:54:32,360 --> 02:54:33,680
Speaker 1: Prince, no, no.

3722
02:54:34,600 --> 02:54:36,600
Speaker 6: But if Prince reached out to me, you know what

3723
02:54:36,640 --> 02:54:39,360
Speaker 6: I mean, like no one knowing on we said Michael Jackson.

3724
02:54:41,680 --> 02:54:46,160
Speaker 6: So yeah, if someone had reached out to me, you know,

3725
02:54:46,640 --> 02:54:49,400
Speaker 6: I've never really been in a position where I'm saying

3726
02:54:49,440 --> 02:54:50,560
Speaker 6: no to a big artist or whatever.

3727
02:54:51,760 --> 02:54:53,880
Speaker 5: It's just never come to me. I wasn't in those circles.

3728
02:54:53,959 --> 02:54:57,119
Speaker 1: I went home too early. So okay, so I'm actually

3729
02:54:57,160 --> 02:54:58,920
Speaker 1: one you ask me ten.

3730
02:54:59,040 --> 02:55:01,600
Speaker 5: Dude, I'm here, actually flew here to be with y'all.

3731
02:55:01,680 --> 02:55:04,720
Speaker 1: We actually spoke about it earlier, yes, sir, but let's

3732
02:55:04,760 --> 02:55:07,040
Speaker 1: let'st's speak about it again. Now.

3733
02:55:07,840 --> 02:55:11,000
Speaker 4: We said the one record to save the world. Right,

3734
02:55:11,560 --> 02:55:16,160
Speaker 4: you didn't even pick yourself. You picked Scott Stars and

3735
02:55:16,200 --> 02:55:18,040
Speaker 4: you picked a homeboy from og Yeah.

3736
02:55:18,080 --> 02:55:19,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, but you said I thought you said it as

3737
02:55:20,000 --> 02:55:20,440
Speaker 5: a feature.

3738
02:55:21,080 --> 02:55:24,279
Speaker 1: Now, okay, you got.

3739
02:55:26,800 --> 02:55:31,680
Speaker 4: For you one record dead alllive. What artists would you.

3740
02:55:31,920 --> 02:55:32,440
Speaker 1: Like to work with?

3741
02:55:32,879 --> 02:55:33,000
Speaker 3: Oh?

3742
02:55:33,120 --> 02:55:38,280
Speaker 1: Wow, that you feature on that you they feature? Yeah,

3743
02:55:39,320 --> 02:55:40,040
Speaker 1: that all live.

3744
02:55:40,440 --> 02:55:42,879
Speaker 5: I would say Prince, Prince, I would say, I would

3745
02:55:42,879 --> 02:55:44,440
Speaker 5: say Prince just I could see it just.

3746
02:55:44,520 --> 02:55:50,360
Speaker 6: Because just just because I'd want the challenge of whatever

3747
02:55:50,400 --> 02:55:51,320
Speaker 6: he would do musically.

3748
02:55:52,120 --> 02:55:55,680
Speaker 5: And I pride myself on being able to rhyme over anything. Right,

3749
02:55:55,840 --> 02:55:57,560
Speaker 5: So if if if Prince.

3750
02:55:59,400 --> 02:56:01,720
Speaker 6: And it's like like if Prince were, you know, were

3751
02:56:01,760 --> 02:56:03,080
Speaker 6: to come up with something that it was a theme

3752
02:56:03,200 --> 02:56:03,640
Speaker 6: or whatever, I.

3753
02:56:03,920 --> 02:56:06,360
Speaker 5: Love the challenge. You will want him to come up

3754
02:56:06,400 --> 02:56:06,800
Speaker 5: with it, you know.

3755
02:56:06,879 --> 02:56:08,000
Speaker 1: I mean, i'd be.

3756
02:56:08,000 --> 02:56:10,800
Speaker 6: Guessing on his record. I'm not gonna ask Prince the feature.

3757
02:56:11,400 --> 02:56:12,280
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm guessing on.

3758
02:56:12,320 --> 02:56:15,000
Speaker 1: That, so I'm asking you. I'm asking you, this is

3759
02:56:15,040 --> 02:56:15,560
Speaker 1: your feature.

3760
02:56:17,240 --> 02:56:21,480
Speaker 6: I don't know, man, I don't know, dude. There's so

3761
02:56:21,560 --> 02:56:23,560
Speaker 6: many people that you know that I love and respect

3762
02:56:23,600 --> 02:56:29,200
Speaker 6: and and it's I wouldn't I wouldn't know. I really,

3763
02:56:29,240 --> 02:56:31,960
Speaker 6: I really wouldn't know, because because it's not you know,

3764
02:56:33,320 --> 02:56:35,920
Speaker 6: out of my circle. I would say trench, you know

3765
02:56:35,959 --> 02:56:38,879
Speaker 6: what I mean? Like like, I like my my dream

3766
02:56:38,920 --> 02:56:41,640
Speaker 6: record would be me tretching quick. That would be if

3767
02:56:41,680 --> 02:56:43,920
Speaker 6: you said features and say each guy a verse meet

3768
02:56:43,959 --> 02:56:44,720
Speaker 6: me treaching quick.

3769
02:56:45,320 --> 02:56:46,520
Speaker 1: That sounds like a mean record.

3770
02:56:46,640 --> 02:56:50,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, I'm pretty sure. But I'd want I

3771
02:56:50,120 --> 02:56:50,760
Speaker 5: want one of mine.

3772
02:56:50,920 --> 02:56:53,439
Speaker 1: That's my whole thing. Man. It's like dam chance compilations.

3773
02:56:54,280 --> 02:56:54,720
Speaker 1: I want.

3774
02:56:55,320 --> 02:56:58,080
Speaker 6: I want the opportunity to have a record crack and

3775
02:56:58,160 --> 02:57:00,200
Speaker 6: then be able to pull in who I want to

3776
02:57:00,240 --> 02:57:03,480
Speaker 6: pull in, as opposed to putting the pressure of trying

3777
02:57:03,520 --> 02:57:08,040
Speaker 6: to get a current record to do something on the three.

3778
02:57:08,080 --> 02:57:09,920
Speaker 6: I just want I want to make that record for

3779
02:57:10,040 --> 02:57:13,960
Speaker 6: fun on on an up on an upswing, you know,

3780
02:57:14,120 --> 02:57:16,400
Speaker 6: or at least being at a certain plateau, as opposed

3781
02:57:16,400 --> 02:57:19,320
Speaker 6: to saying, oh, these artists that haven't whose biggest records

3782
02:57:19,320 --> 02:57:21,120
Speaker 6: were X amount of years old, you know.

3783
02:57:21,240 --> 02:57:22,880
Speaker 5: Trying to do something now. I'd want to kind of

3784
02:57:22,920 --> 02:57:24,879
Speaker 5: be beyond that, you know.

3785
02:57:25,040 --> 02:57:34,320
Speaker 1: In terms of doing that. Jeez, Louise, Papa cheeze. You

3786
02:57:34,400 --> 02:57:39,240
Speaker 1: ever met James Brown? Never? No, never met James Brown. Okay,

3787
02:57:39,520 --> 02:57:41,279
Speaker 1: I just feel like you his cousin.

3788
02:57:42,560 --> 02:57:46,240
Speaker 3: I know, I know people.

3789
02:57:47,120 --> 02:57:49,880
Speaker 6: I want to say, some people that at UH at

3790
02:57:49,920 --> 02:57:52,440
Speaker 6: the agency had worked at work with him touring and

3791
02:57:52,600 --> 02:57:54,280
Speaker 6: you know, I've heard stories and that kind of thing,

3792
02:57:54,400 --> 02:57:56,080
Speaker 6: but never never met him person.

3793
02:57:56,160 --> 02:57:57,480
Speaker 5: That's a that's a bit before my time.

3794
02:57:57,560 --> 02:57:59,240
Speaker 1: But also in the in the.

3795
02:57:59,280 --> 02:58:02,320
Speaker 6: Eighties we could of cross paths. But yeah, yeah, but

3796
02:58:02,440 --> 02:58:04,760
Speaker 6: it just it just didn't come to fruition like.

3797
02:58:04,760 --> 02:58:07,080
Speaker 4: That because I thought, I swear to God when I

3798
02:58:07,160 --> 02:58:09,119
Speaker 4: asked you that question, I said that alive. I thought

3799
02:58:09,120 --> 02:58:11,640
Speaker 4: he was gonna say James Brown, but you said, Prince,

3800
02:58:11,760 --> 02:58:14,480
Speaker 4: that's just like that's in the same league.

3801
02:58:14,959 --> 02:58:17,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I mean just in terms of his artistry

3802
02:58:17,360 --> 02:58:19,440
Speaker 6: and just I wouldn't know what I was gonna get,

3803
02:58:20,000 --> 02:58:23,560
Speaker 6: and that that's what I want. There's so many different

3804
02:58:23,680 --> 02:58:27,000
Speaker 6: sounds that worked so well that whatever he came with,

3805
02:58:27,520 --> 02:58:29,480
Speaker 6: I know there'd be a level of genius behind that

3806
02:58:29,560 --> 02:58:32,120
Speaker 6: that I wouldn't necessarily see coming, and I'd have to

3807
02:58:32,160 --> 02:58:33,080
Speaker 6: step up to that game.

3808
02:58:33,160 --> 02:58:35,080
Speaker 7: So that's why I'd say, Prince forgot, he's supposed to

3809
02:58:35,120 --> 02:58:41,760
Speaker 7: take your shot. You behead bullshit all right? Let him

3810
02:58:41,760 --> 02:58:42,320
Speaker 7: get away with that.

3811
02:58:45,240 --> 02:58:50,800
Speaker 1: Jamie Niggas some ice please, Yeah, man, I'm gonna be honest.

3812
02:58:51,480 --> 02:58:54,320
Speaker 4: I want to pick you up once again, man, and

3813
02:58:54,560 --> 02:58:57,320
Speaker 4: just tell you how much you mean. It's a hip

3814
02:58:57,320 --> 02:59:02,640
Speaker 4: hop not just me, not just uh. Like I said,

3815
02:59:02,680 --> 02:59:05,520
Speaker 4: I know, I know this job. I know this job.

3816
02:59:05,560 --> 02:59:09,640
Speaker 4: I know what it takes. You can never take off

3817
02:59:09,720 --> 02:59:13,400
Speaker 4: your uniform. Yeah, being a rapper, you could never take

3818
02:59:13,440 --> 02:59:17,800
Speaker 4: off your uniform. Sometimes I admire people that work in

3819
02:59:17,879 --> 02:59:20,440
Speaker 4: McDonald's because when they get off at work, they could

3820
02:59:20,440 --> 02:59:24,200
Speaker 4: take their shit off. We can't never take our Wherever

3821
02:59:24,320 --> 02:59:26,840
Speaker 4: we go, we have to be. It's either you could

3822
02:59:26,840 --> 02:59:30,640
Speaker 4: be a target. You can be somebody they love, you

3823
02:59:30,720 --> 02:59:32,400
Speaker 4: can be somebody off, somebody they bother.

3824
02:59:33,000 --> 02:59:33,560
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

3825
02:59:33,720 --> 02:59:36,760
Speaker 4: So I know this job, and this job is, and

3826
02:59:36,920 --> 02:59:39,920
Speaker 4: to be doing it for thirty five years and to

3827
02:59:40,040 --> 02:59:41,320
Speaker 4: have a smile on your face.

3828
02:59:42,760 --> 02:59:45,840
Speaker 6: I'm what MC eight would call the happy rapper. Then

3829
02:59:45,879 --> 02:59:47,320
Speaker 6: when he said I want to be the happy rapper.

3830
02:59:47,320 --> 02:59:50,600
Speaker 6: When he said when he said that, I'm like at

3831
02:59:50,640 --> 02:59:52,680
Speaker 6: this age, at this time, that resonates with me, Like

3832
02:59:52,879 --> 02:59:54,600
Speaker 6: I'm that guy that's.

3833
02:59:54,560 --> 02:59:57,360
Speaker 4: Dope being a happy rapper, I think so, oh yeah,

3834
02:59:57,360 --> 02:59:58,600
Speaker 4: because there's not a lot of happys.

3835
02:59:59,160 --> 03:00:01,560
Speaker 1: No, just I know, dog, But thank you man.

3836
03:00:01,600 --> 03:00:05,720
Speaker 4: We appreciate it, man sitting down with us doing drink checks.

3837
03:00:10,400 --> 03:00:12,560
Speaker 4: But also I'm not saying this just to say this.

3838
03:00:13,240 --> 03:00:13,960
Speaker 1: This is your house.

3839
03:00:14,040 --> 03:00:17,640
Speaker 4: So many people if you can't be used, you're useless.

3840
03:00:18,200 --> 03:00:20,640
Speaker 4: So many people don't understand that, and so many people

3841
03:00:20,720 --> 03:00:23,560
Speaker 4: think that you know, but this is your house when

3842
03:00:23,560 --> 03:00:25,360
Speaker 4: you want to go and you perform, and you want

3843
03:00:25,360 --> 03:00:27,840
Speaker 4: to you want to talk about you know, your toys.

3844
03:00:27,959 --> 03:00:28,320
Speaker 1: This is it.

3845
03:00:28,480 --> 03:00:31,480
Speaker 4: Man, like you, we come and we're gonna support it, man,

3846
03:00:31,560 --> 03:00:35,000
Speaker 4: because what you did and what you've done for our

3847
03:00:35,120 --> 03:00:38,840
Speaker 4: community is something that we always going to salute.

3848
03:00:39,000 --> 03:00:39,280
Speaker 8: Thank you.

3849
03:00:39,480 --> 03:00:42,360
Speaker 6: Now there's a question you didn't ask me. Let's force

3850
03:00:42,440 --> 03:00:45,440
Speaker 6: it and answer force it. Let's go you as you'd

3851
03:00:45,440 --> 03:00:46,680
Speaker 6: ask radio or podcast.

3852
03:00:47,000 --> 03:00:47,200
Speaker 2: Oh.

3853
03:00:55,440 --> 03:00:55,920
Speaker 3: I like it.

3854
03:00:56,200 --> 03:00:59,039
Speaker 1: I like that you're gonna point ahead radio podcast.

3855
03:00:58,800 --> 03:01:04,400
Speaker 6: Podcasts, I would say, I would say radio for now,

3856
03:01:05,080 --> 03:01:08,400
Speaker 6: but podcasts in terms of how you view them evolving.

3857
03:01:08,800 --> 03:01:10,640
Speaker 6: When you said you want to make a podcast for

3858
03:01:10,760 --> 03:01:12,360
Speaker 6: somebody to break a record and put it out and

3859
03:01:12,440 --> 03:01:14,359
Speaker 6: go right to the audience and direct to consumer.

3860
03:01:14,400 --> 03:01:17,760
Speaker 5: That that's the way it could be if it was

3861
03:01:17,840 --> 03:01:18,720
Speaker 5: regarded as such.

3862
03:01:19,360 --> 03:01:23,240
Speaker 6: Radio still has its sway, you know what I mean,

3863
03:01:23,400 --> 03:01:26,720
Speaker 6: But if podcasts could get to whereas that organized and

3864
03:01:26,800 --> 03:01:29,760
Speaker 6: it wasn't so because there's no such thing as a

3865
03:01:29,800 --> 03:01:32,600
Speaker 6: regional podcast. There's only a podcast. There could be a

3866
03:01:32,680 --> 03:01:36,680
Speaker 6: podcast that's said in a reason, but it's competing worldwide.

3867
03:01:36,920 --> 03:01:38,760
Speaker 1: Try by some mere distribution of right.

3868
03:01:39,240 --> 03:01:41,680
Speaker 6: So that makes it difficult because you're literally picking one

3869
03:01:41,720 --> 03:01:45,840
Speaker 6: because guarantee, whatever your nearest competition is will say, well,

3870
03:01:45,879 --> 03:01:47,720
Speaker 6: if you go on drink champs, you can't come here.

3871
03:01:48,200 --> 03:01:50,160
Speaker 6: Whereas if I go to the you know, if I

3872
03:01:50,240 --> 03:01:52,720
Speaker 6: go to the biggest station in LA I can still

3873
03:01:52,760 --> 03:01:55,680
Speaker 6: go to the biggest station in Dallas, even if they're

3874
03:01:55,720 --> 03:01:58,640
Speaker 6: you know, family relate whatever, I can still do that.

3875
03:01:58,840 --> 03:02:02,400
Speaker 6: That that's the power of radio. Podcast needs to get

3876
03:02:02,440 --> 03:02:04,920
Speaker 6: to that point. So that because young people would say

3877
03:02:04,920 --> 03:02:07,039
Speaker 6: podcasts because they don't see what radio did. I remember

3878
03:02:07,080 --> 03:02:08,440
Speaker 6: having to go to Houston and I got to go

3879
03:02:08,480 --> 03:02:10,320
Speaker 6: to five stations. If I if I go to four,

3880
03:02:10,400 --> 03:02:12,360
Speaker 6: I'm gonna lose all of them, right, So I better

3881
03:02:12,440 --> 03:02:14,880
Speaker 6: go to five stations in Houston. You know what I'm saying.

3882
03:02:15,120 --> 03:02:17,959
Speaker 6: That's the power of radio, right, So yeah.

3883
03:02:18,600 --> 03:02:22,920
Speaker 4: Damn, I remember we can't even get our records, like

3884
03:02:23,000 --> 03:02:25,920
Speaker 4: I remember I had to physically go to London. Yeah,

3885
03:02:26,400 --> 03:02:29,840
Speaker 4: to like have London play my record, like, and we

3886
03:02:30,040 --> 03:02:31,240
Speaker 4: speak about your England.

3887
03:02:31,280 --> 03:02:34,280
Speaker 1: You England a little too right? I was wing man.

3888
03:02:34,879 --> 03:02:38,440
Speaker 6: I was born in England nineteen sixty seven, went to

3889
03:02:38,560 --> 03:02:42,200
Speaker 6: New York in nineteen seventy, and then left New York

3890
03:02:42,280 --> 03:02:45,800
Speaker 6: in eighty five to go to college. So no, you know,

3891
03:02:46,000 --> 03:02:48,640
Speaker 6: no British accent, no Jamaican accent. I sound like I'm

3892
03:02:48,680 --> 03:02:49,959
Speaker 6: from the mid from the Midwest.

3893
03:02:50,000 --> 03:02:51,640
Speaker 1: You could turn on your pats when you want. That's

3894
03:02:51,680 --> 03:02:54,960
Speaker 1: what That's what Drane does. Did dreams he'd be like

3895
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Speaker 1: Jamaican anything.

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, like when he went to I see his

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Speaker 4: accent jump out. Some Jamaican's coming, right, But yeah, he

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Speaker 4: starts sucking the stee He decided London, I see somebody

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Speaker 4: from England come around to him, act like he was English.

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Speaker 1: Being sophisticated. You don't do that, you don't know.

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Speaker 6: I'm just yeah, it's just me, okay, except when I

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Speaker 6: was imitating that lady at the Grammys, because that that

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Speaker 6: that was very good.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Yes, it was very natural. Thank you well,

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Speaker 1: Thank you once again. Man.

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Speaker 4: I want you to know that everyone here wants to

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Speaker 4: be here to salute what you've done, which continue to

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Speaker 4: do and keep doing this ship man like your inspiration

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Speaker 4: to us.

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Speaker 1: All man, like you know what I'm saying. We got

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Speaker 1: love for you. I have to signed a couple of

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Speaker 1: these things. You got a pen by the way, that's

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Speaker 1: his real CD. Yeah, he be going live.

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Speaker 5: He'll sign tones, but I'll leave a space for him

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Speaker 5: to sign because you should have him on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we need him on too.

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Speaker 3: executive producers n O r E and dj E f N.

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Speaker 9: Hazard is said Rising the Machines Cast Your Mentals Volume one,

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Speaker 1: Download today.

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Speaker 9: Rising the Machines Song Contest seeking out all artists that

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Speaker 9: and you will be judged by celebrity judges dj e

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