1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: Lie from the Bloomberg Interactive Brooker Studios. This is Bloomberg 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: day Break for Monday, February thirteen. Coming up today, the 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: US military shoots down a fourth object in the skies 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: in a little over a week. China accuses the US 5 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: of illegally flying balloons more than ten times since the 6 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: death toll approaches thirty five thousand in the earthquake in Turkey, 7 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: and all Street braces for a key inflation report jury 8 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: in New York City today considered the death sentence for 9 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: at Islamic extremist. Plus will Manhattan see three pandemic in 10 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: office work schedules. I'm Michael Blar, more ahead. I've done 11 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: stas shower and sports than kids as city chiefs one 12 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 1: super Bowl met me seven and Phoenix they beat Philadelphia 13 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: thirty five. Patrick Mahomes named m v P. That's all 14 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 1: straight ahead on Bloomberg day Break, The business news you 15 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: need disturb your day, and just one fifteen minute podcast 16 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: each pointing on Apples, Spotify, the Bloomberg Business Appen everywhere 17 00:00:55,600 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: you get your podcasts. Good morning, I maybe Morris and 18 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: I'm career in Moscow. If here are the stories we're 19 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: following today. The US military has taken out of fourth 20 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: object in the skies in eight days. The Pentagon hell 21 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,919 Speaker 1: the briefing last night during the Super Bowl to answer 22 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: questions about what these objects are and where they're from. 23 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: General Glenn Van Herk Is, commander of the North American 24 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: Aerospace Defense Command. They're similar in size, similar in speeds 25 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 1: that go with the wind on these objects that we've seen. 26 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: As far as specific shapes, we've got to get our 27 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: hands on those. Connecticut Representative Jim Hims tells NBC's Meet 28 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: the Press, heard Sundays on Bloomberg Radio that the US 29 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 1: is seeing more unidentified objects in our skies because we're 30 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 1: looking for them. Most of our sensors and most of 31 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: what we were looking for didn't look like balloons. Now, 32 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: of course we're looking for them, so I think we're 33 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: probably finding more stuff. Recovery efforts are underway for all 34 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: four objects, including the suspected spy balloon at the bottom 35 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: of the Atlantic Ocean. Well, I mean. The war of 36 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: words continues this morning over the balloon controversy. China says 37 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: the US has repeatedly flown balloons over its country. We 38 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: gain more from Bloomberg's Derek Wallbang, China says US balloons 39 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: trespassed over ten times since January, So now there's getting 40 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: to be a bit of a tip for Tatton back 41 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: and forth about who's doing what. All of this is 42 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: sounding very much unlike that detent that we were hearing 43 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: about out of the G twenty leaders meeting in Bali, 44 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: where Season Ping and Joe Biden we're talking about and 45 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: easing of ties and wanting to have senior officials meeting 46 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: and things, and and this has really gotten in the 47 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: way of that, and Bloombergs Derek Wallbang says. Media reports 48 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: at Asia say China is preparing to take down an 49 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 1: unidentified object found flying over its waters. And now we 50 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 1: turn to the latest on those two massive earthquakes that 51 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: struck Turkey and Syria last week. The death toll has 52 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: climbed in near thirty five thousand people. That has criticism 53 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: mounting on Turkey's government. Bloomberg simmendemic in reports from ms Dembul, 54 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: survivors and opposition policies are saying that the government was 55 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: just ill equipped and too slow in responding, especially on 56 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: the first day, missing a critical window of saving more people. 57 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: And there's all also huge complaints about shoddy construction Bloomberg 58 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: Simon Demo cans as dozens of contractors are under investigation 59 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: for shoddy construction following the earthquake. Three have been arrested. Well, 60 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: I mean, much more ahead of these developing stories throughout 61 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 1: the broadcast, but first we turn our attention to a 62 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: Super Bowl classic that is an enveloped in controversy. This 63 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: morning at Bloomberg, John Stashower joins US Live with the details. John, 64 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: good morning, give me wanning care in the kN City. 65 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: Chiefs went fifty years without winning or even playing in 66 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. This was their third the last four years, 67 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: and their second victory. This one, like the previous one, 68 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: a come from behind. When Chiefs only had the ball 69 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: for eight minutes of the first half, They trailed the 70 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: Eagles by ten, but scored three second half touchdowns that 71 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: go up by eight. Philadelphia then tied the game k 72 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: C one and a light field goal, help by a 73 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: questionable holding penalty again the Eagles. Patrick Mahomes named Super 74 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: Bowl m v P. Much more coming up in sports, 75 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: John stash Were Bloomberg Daybreak. All right, thank you, John, 76 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: We're gonna have more last night's game coming up in 77 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: our sports report, but first we turned to markets. Features 78 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: are mixed following the worst week for stocks since December. 79 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 1: Morgan Stanley strategist Mike Wilson says there's more selling ahead. 80 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: Wilson sees the SMP five ending the year at thirty 81 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: nine hundred, down nearly five percent from current levels. He 82 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: says stocks will fall as earnings estimates come down, before 83 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: rebounding in the second half well amy A catalyst for 84 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: stocks this week could come tomorrow, with the release of 85 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 1: a key inflation report. FED officials have been warning Wall 86 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: Street not to get carried away about a quick drop 87 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 1: and inflation, and Bloomberg Economics correspondent Michael McKee says tomorrow's 88 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: report will luckily prove their point. The CPI report, out 89 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: Tuesday morning, is forecast to show a big jump in 90 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: headline inflation during the month, in part because of oil prices. 91 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 1: Core expected to be unchanged, but both will be affected 92 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: by a rewaiting of sectors within the cp I to 93 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 1: better reflect what people are actually spending on. The annual 94 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 1: inflation rate will go down, but to the FED, the 95 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 1: most recent data matters the most. The other major data 96 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: point for the week is Wednesday's release on retail sales 97 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: for January. The forecast is for a big rebound after 98 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: a December decline. Both numbers likely reinforcing the Fed's argument 99 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: for more rate hikes. Ahead Michael McKey, Bloomberg Daybreak, Thanks, 100 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,359 Speaker 1: Mike Eltwear on Wall Street. The boss at Goldman Sachs 101 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: says he should have slashed jobs sooner. Let's get those details. 102 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,919 Speaker 1: Live with Bloomberg. Steve Rappaport, Good morning, Steve, Good morning, 103 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 1: Amy and Karen. David Solomon says he should have followed 104 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: his gut when it comes to job cuts. In a 105 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: private meeting with hundreds of Goldman's partners, Solomon lamented he 106 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: was too slow in reducing the workforce as the environment 107 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: was growing more complicated in the second quarter last year. 108 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: That's according to a report in The Financial Times, Goldman 109 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: Sacks slashed about thirty hundred jobs last month following a 110 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 1: larger than expected spike in expenses and plumbing revenue and profit. 111 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: Live in New York. I'm Steve Rappaport Bloomberg Daybreak. All right, Steve, 112 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: thank you, and again, futures are little change this morning, 113 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:07,119 Speaker 1: at least SMP and down futures Nasdack futures are higher, 114 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: up a quarter percent or thirty points. The decks in 115 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: Germany's up a quarter percent to ten. Your treasury down 116 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 1: one thirty second. You have three point seven three percent. 117 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 1: They yield on the two year four point five three percent, 118 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 1: and NIMEX screwed oil is down one and a third percent. 119 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: Straight ahead, we have your latest local headlines, plus a 120 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: check of sports, and this is Bloomberg. Hey degrees in 121 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: New York, clouds give way to sunshine. Temperatures will stay 122 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: mild for February. We're going up to fifty five today 123 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 1: with clear skies tonight, down to thirty five, sunshine and 124 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: breezy tomorrow, going up to fifty tom Now to look 125 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: at some of the other stories making news in New 126 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: York and around the world. For that, we're joined by 127 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: Bloomberg's Michael bar Good morning, Michael, Good morning Amy. A 128 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: jury today will begin considering whether an Islamic extremist should 129 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 1: be sentenced to death for killing eight people on a 130 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 1: New York City bike path. Say fulusip Off was convicted 131 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: last month in the seventeen attack in which he mowed 132 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: down bicyclists with a truck. The same jury that found 133 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: ship Off guilty will now hear from additional witnesses in 134 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: the trial's penalty phase. The Philippines has accused a Chinese 135 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: Coastguard ship of hitting a Philippine Coastguard vessel with a 136 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: military grade laser and temporarily blinding some of its crew 137 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: in the disputed South China Sea. The Philippine officials says 138 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: it's the first time China has used lasers and caused 139 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: injury to Filipino personnel. Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer continued 140 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: to call on How Speaker Kevin McCarthy to publicly present 141 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: the Republican's budget proposal over the debt ceiling battle. Senator 142 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: Schumer says if he's prepared to hold the country's financial 143 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: future hostage by refusing to raise the debt ceiling, should 144 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: be opened about what these Republican demands for the country's 145 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: budget are. He wants to attach certain spending cuts to 146 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: do this. Hey, where is your plan, Mr McCarthy, He 147 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: says he wants cuts. We asked him which ones. He 148 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: won't say any Meanwhile, Republican Representative James Kohmer says that 149 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: Social Security and Medicare will not be among those cuts 150 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: and slams Democratic leaders for claiming they would be. When 151 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: you get to the point to where we are now, 152 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: where we've got to make cuts, it's a lot tougher. 153 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: We're not going to cut Social Security or Medicare. We've 154 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: been very clear about that. It's it's very disappointing that 155 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: the President and Chuck Schumer would continue to try to 156 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: scare seniors. Representative Komer and Senator Schumer spoke on ABC 157 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,479 Speaker 1: S this week, which can be heard Sundays on Bloomberg. 158 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: New York City is bustling with office workers again, but 159 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: the end person work week has shrunk to Tuesday, Wednesday, 160 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: and Thursday. New data on in person work and analyze 161 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: by Bloomberg News shows Manhattan workers are spending at least 162 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: two twelve twelve point four billion less a year due 163 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: to about fewer days in the office. Global News twenty 164 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: four hours a day, powered by more than journalists, analysts 165 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: and over a hundred twenty countries. I'm Michael bar this 166 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: is Bloomberg Gaming. All right, thank you, Michael Ton now 167 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: for the sports report brought to you by Try State 168 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: OUTI here's Jon stash Our Samy. Three years after Kansas 169 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: Cy Chiefs won the Super Bowl by coming from behind 170 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: the second half. They did it again in Phoenix. They 171 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: trailed Philadelphia by senate a halftime Chiefs couldn't stop the Eagles, 172 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: who held Casey the only eight minutes of first half 173 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: possession time. But things changed second half. Patrick Mahomes engineered 174 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: to seventy five yard ten drives. The second one ended 175 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: and is scored by Cadarius Tony, who was the Giant's 176 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: first round draft pick last year. They traded him to 177 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: the Chiefs and Tony was hardly done there over in 178 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 1: shorter punt and Tony will take it low at the 179 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: thirty five. Now cuts back to the right. He's got 180 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 1: a wall set. If you can get to the edge, 181 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: they you need to pluck the putter. They do. Tony's 182 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: at the forty, up the side line. At the thirty, 183 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: he's at the twenty. Tony put the plot trying to 184 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,599 Speaker 1: stay in place down to the five yards. Fredy have 185 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: to call Super Bowl record sixty five yard return set 186 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: up another case He touchdown, put him up by eight. 187 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: Eagles rallied to tie on Jail and Urtz is thir 188 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: t d run of the game outside of Super Bowl record. 189 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,079 Speaker 1: He added the game tying two point conversion, but the 190 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: Chiefs drove My Home shook off his ankle injury for 191 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: a twenty six yard run. Eagles got called for a 192 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: costly holding penalty. A k C field goal gave them 193 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: the win thirty thirty five. My Home, three days after 194 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: be named regular season m v P named Super Bowl 195 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: m v P. 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This is Bloomberg Daybreak. Good morning, I'm 206 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: Abe Morris. In the past eight days, the US military 207 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: has shot down four unidentified objects in North American airspace, 208 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: and now China says US balloons are flying illegally or 209 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 1: have been flying illegally in China's airspace at least ten 210 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: times in the past year. Let's get more on all 211 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: of this from Bloomberg News Managing editor Derek Wallbang in Singapore. Derek, 212 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,319 Speaker 1: it is a pleasure to talk to you. Thanks so 213 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: much for taking the time with us. Oh, thank you 214 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: so much for having me. Uh, let's just start right away. 215 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: The response from China ten U S balloons at minimum 216 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: in the past year. Tell us about that. That is 217 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: what they said, Foreign Ministry spokesman and actually told reporters quote, 218 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: it's nothing rare for U S balloons to illegally enter 219 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: other countries airspace. Um added added that the US quote 220 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: needs to reflect upon itself and change it's wrong practice. Uh. 221 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 1: This is a sort of response about you know, you're 222 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: you're mad, You're you're worse, you're doing it to um, 223 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: you know sort of that that I guess one might 224 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: say a playground style back and forth. Um. But it's 225 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: really clear that the balloons or or whatever is going 226 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 1: on is is limiting that day to between the US 227 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: and China that you saw come out of the G 228 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: twenty and Bali in November. There had been ideas about 229 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 1: a warmer relationship. There had been uh talks about senior 230 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: level visits from one country to another. A lot of 231 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: that has been put on hold. And you're what you're 232 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 1: hearing right now is rhetoric that is suggesting going exactly 233 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: the opposite way, Uh from where where Joe Biden and 234 00:12:56,120 --> 00:13:00,079 Speaker 1: Hi Jimping were. Uh, we're signaling how do they it 235 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: passed this at this point? My question is whether the 236 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: US has been shooting down these objects. If China starts 237 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: shooting down these objects, does this escalate? Can it get worse? Well? 238 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: I think one of the things that it highlights to 239 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: me is I think I'd say two things here. One 240 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: is it highlights how much of that detent was built 241 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: on a sort of fragility, Right the U. S And 242 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 1: China fundamental differences, Uh, those didn't necessarily ease And if 243 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: it takes one weather balloon looking thing carrying whatever it 244 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 1: was carrying, crossing over the United States to completely upend 245 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 1: that what a fragile piece that had been built. A 246 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: second thing is I think that there is a bigger 247 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: awakening I guess I would say across the world to 248 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 1: this sort of what may be surveillance. Right, you're talking 249 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: about four items shot down over North America. You're talking 250 00:13:55,040 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: about a possible balloon like item overt over Latin America. Uh. 251 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: Taiwan said balloon style incursions are a regular thing. Uh. 252 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: And then the UK says that that Chinese surveillance balloons 253 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: may have been spying over Britain as well. So all 254 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: across there, you're you're having this bigger awareness of what's 255 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: going on. And additionally, I think I might I might 256 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: note any is that the U s policy on this 257 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: has moved rapidly, and I think a lot of the 258 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: world's policy has moved rapidly from um a curiosity and 259 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: wondering what should be done to just decisive action. We're 260 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: just going to shoot this right down, because you remember 261 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: that first one that went went over the US, right 262 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: across quite a lot of territory, quite a lot of days, 263 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: eventually gets taken out just off the coast of South Carolina. 264 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: Numbers two, three, and four went down real fast. You know, 265 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you about that very thing, because 266 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: they seemed to be comfortable watching it and tracking it 267 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: while it flew by, and once they got over you know, 268 00:14:57,760 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: out into the Atlantic. They were able to take that 269 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: first one down. But my question now then is is 270 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: this getting traction because they're being tracked now? Are they 271 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: tracking them more closely? There are these balloons of common 272 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: practice that the rest of us are just now becoming 273 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: aware of because of that balloon off the coast of 274 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: South Carolina. Well, I think that's a great question. And 275 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: the Defense Department told reporters the other day that they've 276 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: been more closely scrutinizing airspace at the altitudes that these 277 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: objects had been traversing, and including enhancing radar, which might 278 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: explain partly the increase in object detected recently. So it 279 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: may be in some way that you're finding more things 280 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: because you're looking for them right, Um, there may be 281 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: a certain additional awareness. I also think, I mean, surveillance 282 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: between great powers is not new. There's by efforts that 283 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: go on all the time. Nobody should be you know, 284 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: there's no no fainting couches needed for any of that. 285 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: But um, I think of this vehicular type of surveillance, 286 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: I think there's been a large increase in awareness and 287 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: also think that there's you know, as I mentioned that 288 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: there's been a large increase in certainty about what to 289 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:13,479 Speaker 1: do about it when it comes, as well as uh, 290 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: you know, reactions that this is perhaps, uh not something 291 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: that people are willing to put up with. You see, 292 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: you see threats of sanctions, You see other sorts of 293 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: ties that get affected by this. So it's got a 294 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: little bit of a if you'll forgive the horrible pun. 295 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: These balloons get down, get shot down, and they make 296 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: a much bigger splash than just the than just the 297 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: question of whether or not you take them out. You're 298 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: listening to Bloomberg Daybreak today, your morning grief on the 299 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: stories making news from Wall Street to Washington and beyond. 300 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: Look for us on your podcast feed at six am 301 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: Eastern each morning, on Apple, Spotify, and anywhere else you 302 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: get your podcasts. 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