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Speaker 5: Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross. Thursday,

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Speaker 5: make sure we get paid, he also listens to the show. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: Big Rob man, so up a Big Rob, thanks for thanks.

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Speaker 1: You should get.

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Speaker 5: Him on one day you can talk about what he

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Speaker 5: does with the with the team and if he's about.

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Speaker 1: That's the biggest check you ever rope.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's probably probably probably, that's probably hr.

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Speaker 5: He should probably go visit with legal before he comes

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Speaker 5: on the show with us. What cannot Yeah, because we're

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Speaker 5: going to ask all of it. We don't want to

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Speaker 4: But we will have the line and we told the

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Speaker 4: line of trouble daily.

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Speaker 5: You know what's great about the all these shows is

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Speaker 5: our boss. Let's give a shout out to Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 5: By the way, because Derek's really Derek Eagleton. You don't

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Speaker 5: get cut cut approbation. But for all the nonsense that

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Speaker 5: he puts up with from you know, all of us,

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Speaker 5: particularly this show, he is he never really but I

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Speaker 5: mean he lets go like if you get yourself in trouble,

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Speaker 5: you get in trouble, right.

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Speaker 4: He never says you can't.

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Speaker 5: You can't do this and you can't do that, and

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Speaker 5: like we we put, we push it, we put you

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Speaker 5: know as far as like you know where we PG.

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Speaker 5: Thirteen R rated or you know, so shout out to

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Speaker 5: Derek too for kind of letting us do our thing

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Speaker 5: and be who we are. And you know, every once

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Speaker 4: Get that invite down so the office, Hey, after the show,

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Speaker 4: if you're not too busy, come on. And it's always

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Speaker 4: so nice, like it's always never like me me in

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Speaker 4: my office.

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Speaker 1: Hey.

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Speaker 5: So I was like, hey, what are you doing after

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Speaker 4: After the show, you got a few minutes, come on

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Speaker 6: He was like, God, I've been because you ain't gonna

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Speaker 6: get to that next show.

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Speaker 5: I've been fortunate enough in my uh my time back

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Speaker 5: to not have to visit upstairs. I've gotten a couple,

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Speaker 5: you got a couple of text messages, you got a call.

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Speaker 5: I didn't. I didn't get a call.

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Speaker 1: I don't think.

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Speaker 5: I think, Okay, I haven't had to walk up those

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Speaker 6: You walk up instead. He'll sneak around this whole bill

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Speaker 6: be called we will be every Well.

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Speaker 5: We got football tonight. Yes, who's the game tonight?

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Speaker 7: Jets against the Patriots.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, Patriots have beat the Jets fifteen in a row.

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Speaker 5: Could that change tonight? Possibly? I'm not really interested in

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Speaker 4: But what I do want to see what Aaron rod

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Speaker 5: It'll be interesting. Uh, let's talk about and.

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Speaker 4: Then we can watch the running back on their team

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Speaker 5: But something I do want to talk about, well later,

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Speaker 5: let's talk about the new Hall of Fame class that

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Speaker 5: was announced yesterday that that is up for nomination.

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Speaker 4: That's if we're not putting darry Woodson in there.

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Speaker 5: I was going to bring that up. Yeah, sorry, I

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Speaker 5: know it's good. I agree with you though. There's some

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Speaker 5: We'll talk about all that later, but right now, something

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Speaker 5: that's very interesting. The injury report popped up a couple

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Speaker 5: Digg's foot, Hooker's shoulder, Mazzi back all popped up yesterday.

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Speaker 8: Ye, Diggs and Lamb are back of practice, so it

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Speaker 8: was probably kind of a rest day for them. I'm

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Speaker 7: McCarthy said that Mazzie Smith, who's also on there, you

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Speaker 7: they have mri.

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Speaker 1: I, So okay, mri I, well not much.

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Speaker 4: It's a back, so I don't know if it's.

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Speaker 1: Every well a back.

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Speaker 8: That can't be good getting MRIs in your back. I mean,

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Speaker 8: that's how does that get better?

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Speaker 7: They're evaluating the test, So I'm assuming you have something

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Speaker 7: in my MRI.

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Speaker 1: Biet a little.

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Speaker 5: How you guys doing with the uh I?

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Speaker 4: Like the double Star?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like that's the best.

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Speaker 4: That's a little Giants one.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the best jersey in history in the Cowboys.

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Speaker 8: Color coordinated Well today, Yeah.

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Speaker 5: We called each other.

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Speaker 1: We had uh Tyrone Crawford on the show last.

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Speaker 4: Night, The Great Canadian, right a Canadian?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, God, I love that guy.

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Speaker 4: Did you play with him, Jesse did not?

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Speaker 5: You were before him?

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Speaker 1: Right? Yes? Four daughters? Yeah? Four girls? Is he done?

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Speaker 6: No? That's one is seven months old is gonna try

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Speaker 6: for I didn't even ask seven months I'm like, bro,

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Speaker 6: I wanted to tap him, like, hey, you need to

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Speaker 4: He got some snaps left, You got some snaps left

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Speaker 4: them play a few downs.

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Speaker 5: Underappreciated players. Everybody on the defense, according to Kurt Daniels,

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Speaker 5: is saying that they just didn't do their job last Sunday.

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Speaker 1: So everyone said that does.

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Speaker 5: That Do you know that during the game or is

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Speaker 5: that something that you have to watch film to figure out.

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Speaker 5: If it is something you know during the game, why

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Speaker 5: can't you correct it mid game? This would be the question.

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Speaker 4: There are moments in games where things begin to spiral

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Speaker 4: out of control and it's oh, like politically, let's use

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 6: We knew that was happening, and we was like what

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Speaker 6: we knew that was happening?

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Speaker 4: Couldn't stop it, That's what I'm saying, Like it started

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Speaker 4: to happen, and before you knew it, it had spiraled

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Speaker 4: out of control. You know, like, what the hell is

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Speaker 1: So good?

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Speaker 5: That's a good point. Right during that game, you knew it,

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Speaker 5: you couldn't stop it, Like what was going on on

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Speaker 5: the sidelines, Like what like, are you panicking or you

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Speaker 5: just like God, are you just.

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Speaker 1: Like try batter your position. Coach is just coaching.

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Speaker 6: They never stopped coaching it try you know, does due

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Speaker 6: this make sure your technique is go to battle, battle,

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Speaker 1: Hey?

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Speaker 8: Then mentally though, they're just like bruh done.

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Speaker 6: When certain when a team is on top of you

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Speaker 6: like that, you are looking at the you looking.

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Speaker 4: At I was going there. Next you start clockwatching, You're like, boy,

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Speaker 4: don't do anything to stop this clock. I want to

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Speaker 4: get because it begins to spiral to a point where

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Speaker 4: it seems like no matter what you do, you can't

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Speaker 4: try harder. You can't technique harder, you can't scheme harder.

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Speaker 4: It's nothing. You just It's one of those things where

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Speaker 4: you just say, man, how can we get this? Can

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Speaker 4: we go to the ref and go, hey, don't stop

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Speaker 4: this clock for nothing. Let's just get out of here

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Speaker 6: You check your body, I mean you you literally be

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Speaker 6: walking off the field making sure that nothing get hurt. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: you know, I remember that level set game. That's why

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Speaker 6: that team, So no matter what you do, we can say,

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Speaker 6: hey boy, they really shined against the Ravens.

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Speaker 5: That game is still with you, Brian, that that's a whooping.

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Speaker 1: You ain't gonna nevill That'll be here at the end

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and maybe Chris or Kurt, you guys can pull

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Speaker 4: the stat up. Did you guys lose the next game

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Speaker 4: like you had the Love and Sat game.

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Speaker 1: I don't think we lost the next game. Check it out.

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Speaker 1: Check it out.

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Speaker 4: And I asked that question because I said this earlier

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Speaker 4: in the week. Excuse me that that loss felt like

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Speaker 4: more than just one loss, right, like it felt like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: like it felt like on the next four okay, yeah,

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Speaker 4: we resolve, but it just felt like that win. And

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Speaker 4: you see how this week has been going. You hear

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Speaker 4: what coaches are saying in the media, You hear what

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Speaker 4: players are saying in the media. You know, you see

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Speaker 4: you're seeing guys you know pop up on the injury report,

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Speaker 4: like things don't things don't feel settled right like things

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Speaker 4: feel like we're and even though yeah we three weeks in,

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Speaker 4: but this feels more desperate, chaotic, like it feels like,

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Speaker 4: you know, s O Wes, the alarms are going off

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Speaker 4: and and and a lost Sunday would really rock the

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Speaker 4: boat in this building. I just felt like that that

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Speaker 4: loss felt terrible. It did. It felt really bad. So

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Speaker 4: to answer your question, yeah, man, sometimes I think just

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Speaker 4: spiral out of control and there's nothing that you can do.

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Speaker 4: You're looking at that clock.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, in each position.

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Speaker 6: For our guys, I don't know if these young bloods

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Speaker 6: can take. But you have a boisterous guy like Michael

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Speaker 6: Irving who can't get that ball. He can't get that

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Speaker 6: ball and it ain't troy fault and it ain't his fault.

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Speaker 1: That the people that's keeping him from that ball. And

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Speaker 1: I mean, we just did not It was just total chaos. Bro.

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Speaker 8: They was at us, other guys on the field, like

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Speaker 8: Kendrick should be like, I'm getting my ass kicked here

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Speaker 8: because you guys aren't holding up the front.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 8: I think he would say something to him.

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Speaker 6: They're in it together, you know, like Emmett was in

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Speaker 5: Let's talk about the running game. But first, so Jesse.

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Speaker 5: y'all's mentality?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 5: Not not today? Not today? Maybe maybe tomorrow, maybe the

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Speaker 5: The very next day he went to the training room.

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Speaker 1: And I like that man, you I mean, he had

441
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Speaker 1: some conversation.

442
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 6: I just you know, suggests. Can you answer that long

443
00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:58,920
Speaker 6: winded eight hour question?

444
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 4: Was still like I'm always we always laugh and say

445
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 4: that some of the things that we say in the

446
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 4: break should be in pay per view and make y'all

447
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 4: paid twenty nine.

448
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 5: That was a good one.

449
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 4: I'm still a little bit human from that because that

450
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 4: like I just I don't know, man, and I don't

451
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 4: I don't want to.

452
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:20,120
Speaker 5: You don't want to step in it, leadership, don't gagem

453
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 5: on Curt. He's trying to say, I too worked up

454
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 5: right now.

455
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:24,439
Speaker 1: Because I.

456
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 5: Jump jump, get you off side.

457
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 6: The thing that is is we're saying, I think this

458
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 6: started because we started laughing when we say we're supposed

459
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 6: to talk about our defense today.

460
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 1: That's where you started it. In the back.

461
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 9: That's where it all started, before we even came in here,

462
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 9: that's where it started. We won't tell everybody what happened.

463
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 6: I told him, y'all can do to show without me

464
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 6: today because we talked about defense.

465
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,360
Speaker 1: I have nothing to say.

466
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 6: Come on, man, The bottom line is this, And I

467
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 6: don't know who started this rumor that if overshown would

468
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 6: have played more snaps, it would have been a different outcome.

469
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,880
Speaker 6: And for you, I'm going to use a Jesse deal.

470
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,439
Speaker 6: All of you who have all twenty two. Don't know

471
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 6: what you're looking at, because if you couldn't see, our

472
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 6: linebackers did not have any space to maneuver on the

473
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 6: most important place.

474
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 1: You don't know what you're looking at.

475
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 6: It don't matter I was overshown, whether it was Jack Lambert,

476
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,199
Speaker 6: it don't matter. When you push guys back into the

477
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 6: laps of the linebackers, that's not right, and the linebackers

478
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 6: have no room to maneuver.

479
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 1: But I will tell you.

480
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 6: How our defense have to beat this team. You know,

481
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 6: just my opinion. You may disagree. We have to somehow

482
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 6: someone let them know they can't run the ball.

483
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: And more importantly, lamar.

484
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 6: Jackson, because if he feels he can't run the ball,

485
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 6: then he gonna scream to his coach and he can

486
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 6: at least thus throw him out of there. This is

487
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 6: how you get them, This is how everybody beat him

488
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 6: in the playoffs. You start with a soft rush. You

489
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,640
Speaker 6: never get up past him, You never rush around him,

490
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 6: you never take four steps past him. You rush right

491
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 6: up to him as a wall. Your two tackles about

492
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 6: even your defensive ends a live it far the end,

493
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 6: and you have an umbrella. And your umbrella the guy

494
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 6: that spying him, whoever it may be. Y'all can decide.

495
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,679
Speaker 6: All you great fans can decide. You all twenty twos

496
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 6: can decide. But don't step towards that line. Almost drop

497
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 6: back into a soft, soft middle. Just drop back two

498
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 6: or three yards into the middle. So when he come

499
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 6: out of one of those holes, you can get him.

500
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 6: But if you step up two or three yards behind

501
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 6: your defensive line with that soft umbrella, you automatically lose

502
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 6: the angle. I don't care if it's overshown Marathile. You

503
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 6: can go get Dion Sanders. I don't care who you get.

504
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 6: You automatically lose your angles. So now, if you want

505
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 6: to beat them, hold them under one hundred and forty

506
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 6: yards rushing SERIOI, because you one hundred and forty keep

507
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 6: them up onder one hundred and not including including him

508
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 6: Lamar Henry Big henryep because you're gonna have to let

509
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 6: him run a liveit. So you do slow him down.

510
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 6: You may not stop him, but you slow him down,

511
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,679
Speaker 6: but you want him to have to pass you. Now,

512
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 6: I could be wrong, but that that's the only way

513
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,959
Speaker 6: I think we can beat them, because if they have

514
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 6: a two way go, if they running for one hundred

515
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 6: and ninety yards and this boy thrown for two hundred

516
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 6: yards the game over.

517
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 8: So is it better in some ways? Instead of concentrating

518
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 8: on the pressure and the trying to sack him, you're

519
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 8: just trying to contain him.

520
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 6: Some guys, why would you you let Tink come screaming

521
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 6: down in a three or four times and leave an

522
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 6: opening hold.

523
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: Of his dogs?

524
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 5: He gone, Man, you.

525
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 6: Can't take liberties with this guy. Uh, and I and

526
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 6: I overdid it. You gotta hold them around about one

527
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 6: hundred and ten yards rushing because that that forty yard

528
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 6: maybe a strength that yeah, but that's how I look

529
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 6: at beating them.

530
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: Uh.

531
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 6: But if if you let Henry come straight downhill, you're

532
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 6: gonna have to your middle linebacker and your two tackles

533
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 6: gonna have their hands full.

534
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 1: Okay, he go down and he reading the defensive end.

535
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,479
Speaker 6: Defense end can't mess around, and like Jesse said, that's

536
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 6: when you have a replacement, right, because they ain't.

537
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: Gonna let that that.

538
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 6: They ain't gonna let that linebacker scrape off of them,

539
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 6: So they gonna have the guard tackle deucing down to

540
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 6: the linebacker. Now the defensive end is sitting there now,

541
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 6: either safety or a corner.

542
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: Gotta make this move, and if you.

543
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 6: Move too quick, he'll he'll he'll pull up and go

544
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 6: straight down the line and dump that thing off.

545
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: They got a nice tight end and lively.

546
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 6: This kid hadn't grown over the last two years, from

547
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 6: being tired on national TV a couple of years ago,

548
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 6: to blocking folks in the ground and then to catching

549
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 6: that rock.

550
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 1: So he allowed Andrews to take his time to come back.

551
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: But I still.

552
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 6: Believe I saw some throws where he was hitting people.

553
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 6: You're like, oh my god.

554
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: Then you'll see some throws where he miss guys wide open.

555
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 8: So what scares you more the speed of Lamar getting

556
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 8: loose or the bulk of Henry just barreling at you.

557
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 6: I'm gonna take my chance with Henry Lamar. This dude

558
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 6: is man. He is truly video style man. He I

559
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 6: don't even want to talk.

560
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 5: So you're more scared of Lamar.

561
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 1: You're more scared of la Lamar, Lamar Lamar.

562
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,719
Speaker 5: You're more scared of Henry Lamar, both of you because

563
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 5: even though Henry Lamar right up the middle, Lamar just

564
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 5: because of their looseness and the big play capability.

565
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 4: Because when he gets loose, he gets loose, and like

566
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 4: I said, I said in a tweet, you can't let

567
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 4: Lamar is the big jackpop winner. You got to give

568
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 4: up penny slot wins. You can't give up the bigs jacket.

569
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 4: And Lamar is a home run hitter like he's the

570
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 4: big because what happens is when you don't get him

571
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 4: but the first guy, no one else has accounted for him.

572
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 4: You see what I'm saying. And that's why when you

573
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 4: have to play eleven on eleven football because normally, to

574
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 4: be honest with you, most of the time you're playing

575
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 4: eleven on because people don't account for the count for

576
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 4: the quarterback to do that style of running.

577
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: Right.

578
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 4: So now I have to take a dedicated man who

579
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 4: won't rush, who won't be in coverage, who will strictly

580
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 4: be on him, which means in other areas I'm going

581
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 4: to be light right, I either got to zone it up,

582
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 4: man it up, or zone in some areas of man

583
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 4: in some other areas well, what happens if he what

584
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 4: happens when he breaks containment and he gets to that

585
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 4: man's side and he beats the guy that was scheduled

586
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 4: for him, Nobody gets nobody to get him. That turns

587
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 4: into a forty forty yard run right, and he ain't

588
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 4: he ain't mobile. He fast. You know what I'm saying, Like,

589
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 4: there's a difference. Patrick Mahons is mobile this joke of fast.

590
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 5: Explain and unless you and I've had the privilege of

591
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 5: being on the sideline during the game when there's somebody

592
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 5: that's fast on the feet, it's different.

593
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, he out to nature points outruns your angles.

594
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 1: It's different.

595
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 4: It is. It's completely different from being a mobile dude

596
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 4: and being fast. And when you think you got an

597
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 4: angle on him, excuse screwed?

598
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: He gone.

599
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 6: Michael Vig, Steve Young. Back when I played and when

600
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 6: you played, those were those type guys, Michael Vig, Steve Young,

601
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 6: you know, especially Steve, you know, bigger, you know, left

602
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 6: handed cat. He already on the wrong side. Vick too,

603
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 6: was already on the wrong side. But you was scared

604
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 6: of his past the way you was scared of Steve's.

605
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 6: You know, they pumping and you jump up at you.

606
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 5: It's like tomorrow he's he's shifty and quick. And then

607
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 5: Darren Sprolls is fast, like maybe it's because he's so

608
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 5: low to the ground. It just is like he's moving quicker,

609
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 5: But dude, he I mean, it's different fastest on the

610
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 5: football field.

611
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: It's the thing about Camara.

612
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 6: He turned twenty six pounds. So when you think you

613
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 6: Finn bust him up, that's best. That best the cats up.

614
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 6: I'm serious. The majority of them cats when they hit him.

615
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 5: Didn't know how strong you were.

616
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: Like, wow, this is something.

617
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 6: Sit this dude, and then we taste someone and see

618
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 6: see how you're right, Jess.

619
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: That was a double beating because look at it's Thursday

620
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: and we still talk about the Saints. That's a double beating. Man.

621
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: Some beatings are hard to come up off of.

622
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 8: They're worried about getting hit by Kamara, and hell, what

623
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 8: are they gonna do when Henry comes out real quick?

624
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 5: Before we go to break U great stat here by

625
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 5: Kurt Jackson leads the NFL and average rushing yards before

626
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 5: contact with six, Henry's tied for ninth and yards after

627
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 5: contact with two point seven.

628
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:46,959
Speaker 1: He falls forward.

629
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, and who are you more scared of the quickness Jackson?

630
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 6: The thing that hurts is they both helped one another.

631
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 6: You're gonna have to be very, very disciplined, and you're

632
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 6: gonna have to in this case we're playing here, right,

633
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 6: you're gonna have to grab turf and a lot of

634
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 6: times when they deuce block you, especially that tackle because

635
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 6: that tackle has full back responsibilities. But they're gonna douce

636
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,760
Speaker 6: you going to that middle linebacker of going.

637
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: To that place.

638
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 6: You mean, what do you mean by do guys getting

639
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 6: hip to help and moving you? I thought you meant yeah, No, Nah,

640
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 6: they ain't gonna They ain't gonna douce. You're trying to

641
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 6: get that vun right, You're trying to get that deuce.

642
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 4: One grabbing turf.

643
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 8: They just need to fall down.

644
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 1: Turf man and crab back at them.

645
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 5: All right, let's take our last break. When we come back,

646
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 5: we'll finish up on hanging with the boys.

647
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 2: There is no eye in Dallas. There is no eye

648
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 2: in the heart, either no eye in blue star or

649
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 2: a lone star for that matter. And there's no eye

650
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 2: in how about them cowboys smear enough nose.

651
00:34:58,360 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 4: There's no eye in football.

652
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 2: The ball is a wee thing, an experience that is

653
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 2: best enjoyed together with good drinks and good folks.

654
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 12: Home are away.

655
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 2: We rally together, we cry together, and we always rally

656
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 2: cry together because there's definitely no eyeen Cowboys fans smear

657
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 2: enough we do game days. Please drink responsibly.

658
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:23,560
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659
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:28,040
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Speaker 5: Welcome back to the final segment of Hanging with the Boys,

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Speaker 5: we didn't get to a whole lot of the run sheet.

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Speaker 5: You want to talk about that?

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Speaker 8: Or actually got a lot to.

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Speaker 5: Talk about the Hall of Fame nominees real quick?

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Speaker 8: Sure?

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Speaker 1: Sure?

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Speaker 5: Tell me your thoughts on these. Tell me if you're

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Speaker 5: do we want to say in or out? Or do

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Speaker 5: we just want to go through the list? What do

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Speaker 5: you guys want to do?

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Speaker 4: I'll just go through and we'll just say in or out.

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Speaker 5: All right, let's start with one interesting name that I'll

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Speaker 5: just say off the top of the bat that I

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Speaker 5: didn't even know h was going to be nominated. Travis Frederick,

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Speaker 5: which I don't think he played long enough to to Yeah,

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Speaker 5: you think if maybe he had like a fourteen to

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00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 5: fifteen year career, he would have he'd been in pretty Yeah,

706
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 5: some more Pro Bowls. And did they change? Do you

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00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 5: think that the criteria it used to be you had

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00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 5: to have a pretty long career ten plus years? It

709
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Speaker 5: was pretty good.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,879
Speaker 5: When Terrell Davis got in that kind of reset that bar.

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Speaker 4: I'll say this for even for Terrell Davis, like and

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Speaker 4: I think Deonna said it. I forgot who said it,

714
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 4: but it was always talking about could you tell the

715
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Speaker 4: story of the league and leave out that person? And

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Speaker 4: I think Terrell Davis had a it wasn't a long

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Speaker 4: It wasn't When I say season, I mean like a

718
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Speaker 4: moment in time like Terrell had like a three four year.

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Speaker 1: Joint.

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Speaker 6: He was the back, was nobody touching him, Him and

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Speaker 6: his offensive line coach created the stretch play.

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Speaker 1: It was did it really? This is what they used

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Speaker 1: to say.

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Speaker 4: And take a take a while, guess what coach was

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Speaker 4: of that under.

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Speaker 6: Coolby shot shot shot, original shot and the second half

727
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Speaker 6: of that was who Gibbs Shanahan.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

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00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 6: Shanahan was originated Shanahan and Gibbs was his offensive line coach.

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Speaker 6: He had undersized guys and he said, how could I

731
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Speaker 6: make this work? And he started to stretch play or

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Speaker 6: what people call the zone, the zone inside outside.

733
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Speaker 5: That's the zone that you talk about.

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Speaker 6: You take it to the outside rear of the tackle

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Speaker 6: and take one cut.

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Speaker 1: We don't want you jermming around. Take it all the

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Speaker 1: way there. One cut.

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Speaker 6: You can make that cut outside that tackle all the

739
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Speaker 6: way back to the backside of the backside guard.

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Speaker 4: Hans run the ball now.

741
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Speaker 6: They said that the way you get into the Hall

742
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Speaker 6: of Fame is when I was coming through. You either

743
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Speaker 6: have a long, lustorous career, are you impact the league?

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Speaker 1: And I think that's.

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Speaker 4: Where two thousand yards they want back to back super Bowls.

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Speaker 4: She was MVP of the league.

747
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Speaker 1: He gave always something he couldn't get by him.

748
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:02,919
Speaker 4: Like he had he had a moment in time when

749
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Speaker 4: you looked up you were like, we couldn't tell that

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Speaker 4: period of time without talking about that Broncos team and

751
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Speaker 4: that player on that Broncos.

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Speaker 1: Team and that system.

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Speaker 5: Stretch play I don't remember a I say that on

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Speaker 5: here a lot trash memory. It's a bad memory.

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Speaker 6: And I also and I'm talking about my boy, and

756
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Speaker 6: I'm still hot over here.

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Speaker 4: Y'all know I'm simmering over here.

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Speaker 5: You don't say that because like I don't ever want

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Speaker 5: to say something, and y'all go, no, that's wrong. And

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Speaker 5: I'm like, if I say I can't remember, then it's like, oh, yeah,

761
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Speaker 5: I forgot about that, So that way, I'm not wrong.

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Speaker 5: But I don't in my memory, I don't remember a

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Speaker 5: group with this many really solid players that could or

764
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Speaker 5: could not be first time ballot guys. So let's just

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Speaker 5: go through it.

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Speaker 4: And before you start there, like I think we're getting

767
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Speaker 4: to that point now where we're talking about the criteria

768
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Speaker 4: is changing. It's like you had you had this grouping

769
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Speaker 4: of just man twenty thirty years of just hell of

770
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Speaker 4: five players, studs, steads, studs, and so now we're getting

771
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Speaker 4: to the point where it's spaced out a little bit

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Speaker 4: more like all those guys are in right, So now

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Speaker 4: you're looking at it differently than when you're looking like

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Speaker 4: those dudes told the story of the National Football League

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Speaker 4: in the seventies and the eighties and the nineties and

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Speaker 4: now you're getting to where it's more spaced out, you know,

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Speaker 4: and so go ahead.

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry, No, this is this is an interesting one. Adam,

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Speaker 5: Vinnie and I think he's got to be in.

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Speaker 1: And these are the up to date guys.

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Speaker 5: These are these are the first time, Yes, sir Adam Vivneitier.

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Speaker 5: What do you think, Kurt?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we vote for Kurt, me and Jesse.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, this is an interesting one. Earl Thomas, part of

785
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Speaker 5: one of the best defenses in recent recent history, was

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Speaker 5: a key player.

787
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Speaker 4: His off the field stuff is going to make him

788
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Speaker 4: have to wait.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 5: I think you get in eventually, eventually, but not first

791
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:05,359
Speaker 5: not the first ballot. We think that, yeah, yeah, first time.

792
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 1: No, you have to wait.

793
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 5: I have to wait. Keep to leave his.

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Speaker 4: Off the field stuff. I don't think he's good enough

795
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 4: player and his off the field stuff ain't. Definitely he

796
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 4: ain't getting it.

797
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 5: For his ballot Antoine, but THEEA.

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00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 4: No, he's nice, but antn't even getting in. He had

799
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Speaker 4: to wait here getting in. Here's a really good play.

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Speaker 4: Here's an interesting one. Terrell sugs, he's in. You're talking

801
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Speaker 4: about the raven Ravens he's.

802
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Speaker 6: You're talking about played with great, great players, right, Yes,

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Speaker 6: he's in to be in right, one of those.

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Speaker 4: Great that defense will have four or five.

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00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: He should without a doubt.

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00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 5: Uh luke Keikley short career, got to be in there,

807
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Speaker 5: one of the best to do it right, he'll be

808
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 5: in th Panthers.

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Speaker 4: Not he won't be first ballot though, No, no, not

810
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 4: first ballot.

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Speaker 1: No he won't.

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00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 5: Sugs yes, first sug yes.

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Speaker 12: Uh.

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Speaker 5: Marshall jan the offensive lineman.

815
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Speaker 4: Also team not first ballot, no curse.

816
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 6: No, but the eventually eventually, uh maybe a while, not

817
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 6: a while in at three three three tries.

818
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 5: Joe Staley, Now, who did he play for the Browns?

819
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 5: The Browns long time?

820
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, really good this new criteria. When is the

821
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 6: last time a Brown got in?

822
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Speaker 4: What's the Browns? Somebody recent?

823
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: Was he?

824
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,919
Speaker 5: Joe Thomas was the last one? Joe Thomas two years ago,

825
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 5: two or three years ago?

826
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Speaker 1: He won't get in first bat.

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Speaker 8: He was forty nine?

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Speaker 4: Or I'm thinking of Joe Thomas jet oh no, no, no.

829
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Speaker 1: No no no no no, no, no, no no.

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Speaker 4: I think I'm think of Joe Thomas.

831
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Brian Khalil, who is he offensive lineman? Or who did

833
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 5: he play for? Ryan?

834
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Speaker 1: Who?

835
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Speaker 8: Saints Carolina?

836
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 1: Mainly Carolina? Oh, come on now, come on now.

837
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Speaker 5: Travis fredan El said, no, the Lady Walker. No, Ernie

838
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Speaker 5: Davis is interesting.

839
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Speaker 1: No, I can't win with it.

840
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Speaker 5: The Marius Thomas No, speaking of Darren Sprolls too much

841
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Speaker 5: of a gadget guy. Here's a really interesting one, because

842
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 5: I think he was talented later in his career, but

843
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 5: his his celebrity as far exceeded what I think he

844
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:27,919
Speaker 5: did on the field.

845
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Speaker 6: Marshawn Lynch, I'm gonna tell you what you boy spoke

846
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 6: on him last night. Your boy at Tyrone. They say, Tyrone,

847
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 6: who is the toughest back you ever went against? Tyrone

848
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 6: mentioned two other guys, he said, but the guy the

849
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,439
Speaker 6: hardest guy I ever tried to hit, and I didn't.

850
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,399
Speaker 6: When I hit him, I got ran over. He said,

851
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:56,879
Speaker 6: he ran over me. He said, he cleared the block

852
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 6: so quick. He said, here's the back and the next

853
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,280
Speaker 6: thing he said, was on his back and just tracked

854
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,879
Speaker 6: right up. I said, for real, He said, for real,

855
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Speaker 6: I don't know if he'll get in man, not for

856
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 6: he won't get in man.

857
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 8: Ten thousand rushing yard.

858
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 6: He won't get in unless they put him in because

859
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 6: he's a celebrity. He won't get in because you remember,

860
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 6: this dude did not talk to the media, He did

861
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 6: not get along with him, and media holes grudges, they

862
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 6: hold grudges. Now, he won't get in. Thro If he do,

863
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 6: I'm gonna crap my hands for not for him, but

864
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 6: for the media. I'm not saying he's not good enough

865
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 6: to be a Hall of Famer, but if they let

866
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 6: him in on the first battle, media, my hat's off you.

867
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 5: All right, here's the most interesting one of all, Eli Manning.

868
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Speaker 1: What's his name? How many commercials as he made?

869
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 5: I think the two Super Bowls?

870
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 6: Does it?

871
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 10: Right?

872
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:55,399
Speaker 5: You can't you can't keep again, man, he'll he's a man.

873
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 5: The only playoff game he ever won is when he

874
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 5: wanted when he won.

875
00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 4: Super Bowls and ten.

876
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, like that's it, that's it.

877
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 4: But he got to super Bowl and not only to

878
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,240
Speaker 4: get to Super Bowls. It's who he beat to get.

879
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 5: Mister Brady on both of them, right, So he's got

880
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 5: to he's got to.

881
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 1: Be in, right.

882
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 4: Unfortunately, he'll be in.

883
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 5: What a class though, that's a hell of a and

884
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 5: I don't remember them usually putting up that many people

885
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 5: do they.

886
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah that first time. They'll throw a big list

887
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 6: of them first time.

888
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 5: And then you brought up Wood. He's still up m

889
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 5: s yep.

890
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,800
Speaker 8: So he's not I don't think he's singing.

891
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,800
Speaker 5: He's still modern era.

892
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,359
Speaker 4: To get him in this this this list isn't good

893
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 4: enough to where you're like, like, you know what I mean,

894
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 4: Like I think, I think this is this might be

895
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 4: the moment.

896
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 1: All right, I hope you join me in the Hall

897
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: of Fame. Baby, what are you holding up there? Jesse?

898
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:54,359
Speaker 5: What we got here?

899
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 4: We got we got some T shirts for my boy

900
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 4: g from Jersey. That's how I got Jersey. Stand up.

901
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 4: The reason you see that, you see you want to

902
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 4: you want to know what winning looks like. You want

903
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 4: to know what standard, what standard looks like.

904
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: You want to see you want to see.

905
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 4: Who wasn't going who wasn't gonna just take getting pushed around?

906
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: Oh my god? Right here?

907
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 4: When when when when there was a standard, you couldn't

908
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 4: you couldn't go out there and get trashed and be

909
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 4: welcome back?

910
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 6: Is he in the back of the man he's still

911
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 6: almost I was just showing as one man's step. We

912
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 6: was always close and you were.

913
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 4: Able to get in and everybody shout out the chief

914
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 4: from Jersey.

915
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

916
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 5: Man, it's a good week for our show. We got

917
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 5: free wings yesterday, we got T shirts. Today, we're going

918
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 5: to have dinner. Most of us we're going to go

919
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 5: have dinner.

920
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 1: So your boy, I know, my boy sold me up.

921
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 1: But you know what, computer, I ain't giving up on

922
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 1: your computer.

923
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 4: That's great, fellas.

924
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 5: Good seeing your great show.

925
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 9: Kurt, Jesse, Nate, Chris, thanks for keeping us on their Joesiejosh,

926
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:12,240
Speaker 9: thanks for keeping him company.

927
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: Will be back. What's tomorrow?

928
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 5: Friday?

929
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 1: Already then this week went back for a new week.

930
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 1: Call us tomorrow.

931
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 5: Tell us your thoughts.

932
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 6: When Kendrick said you should be excited by getting bloody,

933
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 6: let's get up and wipe it off.

934
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,720
Speaker 1: Oh like I care? He said, Man, I I'm excited

935
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 1: about getting blood Who said that? Kendrid? The line back,

936
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: I'm excited about getting bloody. Just get up and wipe

937
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 1: your mouth. You keep going there, Let's go what you

938
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: already know. Henry coming to see how tomorrow.

939
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 2: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and

940
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,400
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