Speaker 1: Welcome back to Unplugged, brought to you by Draft Kings.
Speaker 1: We have a lot of hoops to discuss today, fellas,
Speaker 1: but first let me welcome my two guests, my former
Speaker 1: teammate and homeboy Kean Dueling fresh out Welcome, and my
Speaker 1: dog Max Max hey Man.
Speaker 2: Nice to see you too, Bang of boy. Kean, What's
Speaker 2: what's up?
Speaker 1: Home Team?
Speaker 3: What's up? Florida Boy? What they do?
Speaker 2: Love?
Speaker 1: Max? I heard you still. I heard you're still waiting
Speaker 1: on your pack, Max Man flee.
Speaker 4: I was about to ask you what we came up this, Max,
Speaker 4: I'm down here about to have to bysop.
Speaker 1: Obviously, before we jumped on air today, I walked into
Speaker 1: an interesting conversation of kind of redemption for both you guys. Obviously,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean myself included. We've all been through
Speaker 1: some ship and we've all had to atone for our mishaps.
Speaker 1: And what does it mean to both of you to
Speaker 1: kind of be able to start to regain your footing
Speaker 1: in a space you dearly love Katie, y'all start with you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So I'm big on seniority, So the O G
Speaker 5: always get to go first.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm been past the mic. Then Okay, what's what's
Speaker 1: the meaning to you? Man? You know obviously you know
Speaker 1: you you played before us and got out before us
Speaker 1: and and out outstanding career, but obviously you had some
Speaker 1: trouble off the court. Uh. We ended up connecting on
Speaker 1: a whim at All Star and it's been amazing ever since.
Speaker 1: But what is it? How's it? How's it been for
Speaker 1: you to kind of get in the same question I
Speaker 1: gave Kad to kind of regain your footing in the
Speaker 1: space you love so much.
Speaker 2: Well, that's a blessing for me, because man, I was it.
Speaker 4: I was down to at a low man, a point
Speaker 4: in my life where you know, I didn't know what.
Speaker 2: Direction was up in which waves down.
Speaker 4: And I had this young guy come up to me
Speaker 4: at my son's basketball game when my son was playing
Speaker 4: at North mech High School, and he was like he
Speaker 4: had this visioness name is Cam.
Speaker 2: Carter, my dad who hit? Who really heads up.
Speaker 4: My uh whatever everything that I do. And he was like,
Speaker 4: young kid, I think he was like twenty three twenty
Speaker 4: four at the time. He was like, Max, you know,
Speaker 4: I think you could You'll be a good podcaster.
Speaker 2: And I looked at him.
Speaker 4: I was like shit, Like I was looking at him like, Nigga,
Speaker 4: how much money that shit gonna cost me? You know,
Speaker 4: I thought, I was like, shit, this ship calls meself, Weddy.
Speaker 4: I ain't ready to do that, you know, I got
Speaker 4: I'm you know, I'm trying to stay alive. So but
Speaker 4: then I finally got into it. And then one thing
Speaker 4: led to another that started getting start. You know, it's
Speaker 4: all about the numbers, Matt, and the numbers started coming
Speaker 4: together a little bit for me. H when I was
Speaker 4: with this company called Babarda and shout out to Babada
Speaker 4: because if for them too, I wasn't. I was able
Speaker 4: to get out and do what I had to do.
Speaker 4: And but just like kept grinding, man, and kept grinding.
Speaker 4: And then I started with my mental health thing, my LLC,
Speaker 4: you know, the Vernon Maxwell Initiative. LLC started the mental
Speaker 4: health thing. And it was a blessing for me because,
Speaker 4: like I say about it all the time, if I
Speaker 4: can help one person when I talk about the mental
Speaker 4: health space, man, you know, I don't care one person.
Speaker 4: If I can just help one person, they get it.
Speaker 4: And it means so much to me that, you know.
Speaker 4: And then another thing with that, you know, and I
Speaker 4: just like to say in the black community is you know,
Speaker 4: we don't talk about it enough. And I think it's
Speaker 4: very much needed, you know, and we sided you know,
Speaker 4: we all want to be you know, Mandingo's the big
Speaker 4: man and you know in the crowd so and you know,
Speaker 4: so I just think, you know, it's okay to be
Speaker 4: to ask for help if you need it.
Speaker 2: And that's my thing, and that's.
Speaker 4: What I care about, and that's that's that's what I
Speaker 4: like to talk about outside of talking shit about all
Speaker 4: my stories that I tell. And so that's the reason
Speaker 4: what helped me get to this space where I'm at today.
Speaker 2: Appreciate my guys on all the smoke.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're happy to We're happy to have you KD
Speaker 1: same question down, yeah, man.
Speaker 5: Just to piggyback what MaTx said is that, like there's
Speaker 5: some stigmas that come along with us as black men,
Speaker 5: Like we're not supposed to cry, we're not supposed to
Speaker 5: have feelings, we're supposed to internalize, right, all those different things.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 5: But the the other side of that is that, man,
Speaker 5: we see some traumas coming up. I know, I got
Speaker 5: exposed to a lot of stuff, sexual abuse at an
Speaker 5: early age. You know what I mean, seeing gunfights at
Speaker 5: an early age, poverty, you know what I mean, all
Speaker 5: these different things that you like carry with you that
Speaker 5: a lot of times like we are able to channel
Speaker 5: onto the court in our play right and so like
Speaker 5: it bring that dog got us like you know, yeo,
Speaker 5: I'm a dog, But like man, deep down inside, when
Speaker 5: it gets quiet, when it gets silent, when we don't
Speaker 5: have an infrastructure like NBA, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: You know what I mean, all these things start coming back,
Speaker 5: and so like man for me, man like just being
Speaker 5: a Florida boy and just seeing back og.
Speaker 3: Mad Max, you know what I mean, in his journey.
Speaker 5: I still got a problem with how he got hair
Speaker 5: when he was ball head, when he was like double pump, and.
Speaker 3: I still got a problem with that.
Speaker 5: But man, Og like at the end of the day,
Speaker 5: man like you know, I've gone through some hardships in life,
Speaker 5: but I've also done some good. And you have to
Speaker 5: wear your story. Your story is not like chapters in
Speaker 5: the story.
Speaker 3: It's a journey, and the journey continues.
Speaker 5: The marathon continues, rest in peace, Nipsey Hustle, marathon continues.
Speaker 1: But I think you know that's why this spaces like
Speaker 1: these are important. You know, we started All the Smoke
Speaker 1: nearly six years ago to give people a safe platform
Speaker 1: to come tell their stories, speak their truths. And we
Speaker 1: all came from an era killa on you and I
Speaker 1: caught the end of, or excuse me, the beginning of
Speaker 1: the social media Ara. But Verne, you lived in a
Speaker 1: full era where what they said about you or what
Speaker 1: they prayed about you was the gospel. You never had
Speaker 1: a rebuttal, you never had a voice, you never had
Speaker 1: an opportunity to rebuke or dispute anything they say. So
Speaker 1: that's why I feel like obviously All the Smoke was
Speaker 1: so important when it came. And you know, now you
Speaker 1: see a ton of you know, sports podcasts in general. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't look at none of them as competition because
Speaker 1: I feel like each one has a unique journey and
Speaker 1: a unique story and something to share. So I'm glad
Speaker 1: we got a chance to touch on that mental health
Speaker 1: side and that real side, because again, that's why we
Speaker 1: do this. But there is business waiting for us, fellas.
Speaker 1: The second round of the playoffs are here, and let's
Speaker 1: start with the Celtics, who blew a twenty point lead
Speaker 1: in the third quarter against the Knicks, Boston in fifteen
Speaker 1: for sixty from the three point line, Tatum four for fifteen,
Speaker 1: Brown one for ten. I didn't read too much into this,
Speaker 1: to be honest with you. Obviously, I applaud the Knicks
Speaker 1: for going in there and still in game one, but
Speaker 1: I feel like this is the type of team Boston is.
Speaker 1: I still feel like they're the best team in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: I still feel like they will win a championship, but
Speaker 1: I feel like they have mental lolls sometimes, and one
Speaker 1: of those lolls are settling a little too much for threes.
Speaker 1: But what did you guys see in this game last
Speaker 1: night that sit out to you and shocked you or
Speaker 1: pleased you or surprised you.
Speaker 3: Ojis go first.
Speaker 4: Ojile shutch Kian, Like I always say, Man, you live
Speaker 4: by it, you died by it.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 4: I mean, you see you know your percentages? Those guys
Speaker 4: hit those stats. She's over on that sideline. They get
Speaker 4: to look at it. We wouldn't able to do that,
Speaker 4: but they get to look at that motherfucker and you
Speaker 4: see that you won for seven, one for eight. Then
Speaker 4: god damn, you gotta change it. You gotta change what
Speaker 4: you're doing, you know what I mean, But Boston gave
Speaker 4: away one last night.
Speaker 2: I mean, they got to kill on the other side
Speaker 2: in Brunton.
Speaker 4: Man, this guy, I mean, I'm telling you, man, he's
Speaker 4: probably playing the best basketball right now in the playoffs. Man,
Speaker 4: I feel, man, that guy's a killer. Man, he's really
Speaker 4: really playing exception Well. I love him, man, but I mean,
Speaker 4: and I just think that Boston will win the series.
Speaker 4: And I just think now it's gonna go seven games now, Yeah,
Speaker 4: Boston is gonna win the series.
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, Yeah, no, the piggyback mans.
Speaker 5: It's like at the end of the day, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean, Like, you know, like styles make fights, right,
Speaker 5: and analytics are a part of the game at this moment,
Speaker 5: And so the Celtics play at a fast paced and
Speaker 5: they shoot a certain amount of threes, and if they
Speaker 5: can have their guys shoot their three at the percentages
Speaker 5: that they usually clip at, they feel like they.
Speaker 3: Can win over the course of a year.
Speaker 5: The playoffs is different, right, it's possession by possession.
Speaker 3: Big shout out.
Speaker 5: To the referees, because the referees a lot letting, allowing
Speaker 5: a lot of stuff to happen that doesn't happen in
Speaker 5: the regular season, and you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 5: you know, I put referees in the same block as
Speaker 5: I put cops.
Speaker 3: Indeed, everything that's forced the law, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So I have my feelings about them.
Speaker 5: But I also think that the referees know that there
Speaker 5: is a time and the space and the playoffs are
Speaker 5: a unique experience, right, and so they're letting a lot
Speaker 5: of physicality go and things like that.
Speaker 3: I agree with Max.
Speaker 5: I believe the Celtics will win ultimately, but I don't
Speaker 5: think it just has to be rim in threes.
Speaker 3: I believe that the mid.
Speaker 5: Range game is what might made Michael Jordan who he is.
Speaker 5: It's made all the great sinners who they are, you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So I don't.
Speaker 5: Believe like rim and threes are the only way if
Speaker 5: you go four fifteen, if it's not going from outside,
Speaker 5: like get.
Speaker 3: To your MIDI.
Speaker 5: I know, Jason Tatum, I know Jason Jaylen Brown, I
Speaker 5: know that you know what I mean, Derrick White. They
Speaker 5: can get to their midi as well. And so like
Speaker 5: when you have a guy you know who missus free
Speaker 5: throws like Mitchell in the game, and you can kind
Speaker 5: of get these gaps, like use those to like get
Speaker 5: to your midi and just kind of maintain the league
Speaker 5: instead of just going rim and threes. I think, if
Speaker 5: you live by the sword, you die by the sword.
Speaker 5: And I think this is where analytics versus the eye
Speaker 5: and experience kind of comes into play, because we haven't
Speaker 5: seen a lot of three pointers three, two, one, you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Three for the game. It's been the midi.
Speaker 5: It's been Michael Jordan pulling back, it's been Magic Johnson's hook.
Speaker 5: And so I think that the two point, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean, Like basket has been minimalized, minimalized, and
Speaker 5: I would just love to see that balance because like
Speaker 5: the playoff basketball is coming back because I see physicality.
Speaker 4: I just think that and another thing I want to
Speaker 4: point out, but I think it's a wake up call
Speaker 4: for these motherfuckers. Now Celtics, now they they got the call.
Speaker 4: Now it's time to go. Now this motherfucker.
Speaker 2: That's the series start.
Speaker 4: I know it's supposed to start the first game, but
Speaker 4: these kids are different. These hit these time and day
Speaker 4: man the next time, man, it's gonna go down.
Speaker 2: Now it's serious start.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is this is nothing new for the Celtics.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're currently shooting about thirty six per game
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. During the regular season, they shot above
Speaker 1: forty for the playoffs, so I think sixty is a
Speaker 1: bit much. But again, this is this is one of
Speaker 1: those goals that they have. But I still feel to
Speaker 1: your point, Keyn, that mid range and all the guys
Speaker 1: you named that Klut and Drew Holliday can get to
Speaker 1: that mid range, and or Zingis can get to that
Speaker 1: mid range. This is a stepping stone. But let's also
Speaker 1: credit New York. I mean to come into Boston and
Speaker 1: what Jalen Brunson could be the best player in the
Speaker 1: playoffs right now are playing the best, But let's give
Speaker 1: credit where credit is. Dude, Brunson and Og the way
Speaker 1: they played last night, you know, they didn't they didn't
Speaker 1: necessarily Boston didn't give it to him. They went in
Speaker 1: there and took that motherfucker and shout out Mickel Bridges,
Speaker 1: someone who played fifty one minutes, didn't have a good
Speaker 1: shooting game, but hit a huge three in overtime and
Speaker 1: had the game ceiling steel. You know, and again, this
Speaker 1: is a guy that had a lot of people talk
Speaker 1: about you know what they gave up to get him,
Speaker 1: and he had needs to do this and he needs
Speaker 1: to do that. That dude is just a gamer and
Speaker 1: he makes big plays in big shots, and he was
Speaker 1: also huge for them. So I mean to your point
Speaker 1: that the series has officially started, the way team came
Speaker 1: and got one on your home court, how do you respond.
Speaker 4: Like you said, Michal Bridges, big time played down the
Speaker 4: stretch defensively, big three man. Third quarter went crazy, I mean,
Speaker 4: really got him back into it. And then we already
Speaker 4: we already know in the fourth quarter who the finisher is.
Speaker 4: The finisher guy is you know, Bronson the best finisher
Speaker 4: in the fourth quarter in the NBA this year.
Speaker 2: So shit, when you.
Speaker 4: Just get him there, man, that motherfucker knowing they're gonna
Speaker 4: take care of this business man.
Speaker 2: And it was close like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't well call another player just right now.
Speaker 1: That makes you jump up out of your seat and
Speaker 1: turn your head and put your hands over your face
Speaker 1: when you hit shot like him and Steph. Him and
Speaker 1: Steph are the two guys I feel like when they
Speaker 1: hit shots the way they hit shots down the stretch
Speaker 1: in the clutch, it's just like God, yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: excited for this series. It's only game one. Game two
Speaker 1: will be on Wednesday, next up Thunder and Nuggets. Jokich
Speaker 1: Is is channeling his Bill Russell out there, dropping forty
Speaker 1: twenty doubles, but also screaming at his teammates. And you know,
Speaker 1: obviously with the coaching change, this was something to me
Speaker 1: that that wasn't a concerning but I was just interested
Speaker 1: to see how it played out with Adamman. Come is
Speaker 1: it David Adelman. I played for his dad, Rick Adaman,
Speaker 1: one of the best basketball minds I've ever been around,
Speaker 1: but David Adaman and sometimes, and you guys know us players,
Speaker 1: sometimes the greatest thing a coach can do is get
Speaker 1: the fuck out the way. I think Andy Steve Steve
Speaker 1: Kerr did a really good job of that with those
Speaker 1: those Golden State teams. He would implement what he wanted,
Speaker 1: but he would get back because he knew he had
Speaker 1: players that he can trust out there to do what
Speaker 1: they needed to do. And obviously, I feel like Adaman
Speaker 1: has that same trust in Jokis. Yokich, who you know,
Speaker 1: throughout his career has been someone who's been very, very
Speaker 1: reserved and quiet. But I love to see the passion
Speaker 1: and the teaching and the yelling and the sense of uh,
Speaker 1: you know, eagerness at the time, but for what they
Speaker 1: were able to do against this young OKC team, Uh
Speaker 1: to come back. My brother Aaron Gordon I meant a
Speaker 1: quick story. I've been playing with Aaron gord Man since
Speaker 1: he was like fourteen or fifteen. He used to play
Speaker 1: in the San Francisco prorams with me when I was
Speaker 1: a pro with the Warriors. I was throwing this dude
Speaker 1: libs at like fifteen years old for like half court.
Speaker 1: I oh, lou, he was gonna be special. And people
Speaker 1: quickly forget what kind of score he was over in Orlando.
Speaker 1: He was twenty points a game in Orlando. I think
Speaker 1: he came to Denver and kind of found what his
Speaker 1: role was and was kind of more of a Swiss
Speaker 1: army knock. But he's someone that could score the ball.
Speaker 1: But definitely wanted to shout out him for knocking down
Speaker 1: that big three. But let's discuss that game. What did
Speaker 1: you guys see in that game? Kean? I know you
Speaker 1: like to hand it off to the OG, but I
Speaker 1: want to start with you, Kean. What did you see
Speaker 1: in this game where the thunder left the door open.
Speaker 1: Check missed some free throws and allowed Jokic and his
Speaker 1: boys to come back and get the dub.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So the first thing I'll say is that Chet's miss
Speaker 5: free throw was worth one, right, they hit a three
Speaker 5: to win the game, you know, So I don't think
Speaker 5: that was the game in particular.
Speaker 3: I still like okay See.
Speaker 5: I still think they have, you know, the talent, the
Speaker 5: skill set, the coaching, the continuity and the bench play
Speaker 5: in the diverse amount of combinations that they can play.
Speaker 5: So I still like them in the series. But here's
Speaker 5: the thing, like joke it, the Joker is the best
Speaker 5: player in the NBA. We have never seen a point center.
Speaker 5: We've heard of the term point forwards and things like
Speaker 5: that until this point. That guy is a point center, right.
Speaker 5: He can get you, you know, thirty plus points, twenty
Speaker 5: plus rebounds and then still assist the game.
Speaker 3: So he is different. He is different.
Speaker 5: I still like okay See in the series, though, you know,
Speaker 5: Denver got that win. But it was a great game,
Speaker 5: great competition. I still think that Denver, you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying, Like, you know, has an issue because they
Speaker 5: got rid of Mike Malone, Like at the end of
Speaker 5: the season. But what I saw is that I saw
Speaker 5: Joker in the huddle like hey, listen, like we gotta
Speaker 5: do this, we gotta do that, right, and so he's
Speaker 5: like a coach on the floor and so like at
Speaker 5: the end of the day, man, I think this is
Speaker 5: a very intriguing series. I think brom is kind of
Speaker 5: playing the role of like Bruce Brown. I think that
Speaker 5: Aaron Gordon has been a MAX player at some point, right,
Speaker 5: I think that, you know what I mean, Murray is
Speaker 5: a MAX player. Even though he hasn't been an All Star,
Speaker 5: He's still been one of the most elite players in
Speaker 5: the playoffs. So I think Denver still has that confidence
Speaker 5: they have won a championship, etc. But I like, okay see,
Speaker 5: at the end of the day, I don't think that
Speaker 5: Jalen Williams, you know what I mean, shoots at the
Speaker 5: percentage that he did last night that he does over
Speaker 5: the course of a series. I think they have more
Speaker 5: combinations and so I still like, okay see in that series.
Speaker 3: But like, man, we got to tip our.
Speaker 5: Hat to Joker. Man, like that boy is something unique.
Speaker 5: He's a unicorn. He's something we never seen and I
Speaker 5: got nothing but respect and good things to say about him.
Speaker 1: Kad. You mentioned a lot of things that Oklahoma City has,
Speaker 1: but there's one thing you didn't mention that they don't have.
Speaker 1: What's that it's that experience.
Speaker 3: Experience.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been there, and we all know playoffs is
Speaker 1: about getting hot at the right time. And obviously, I
Speaker 1: think the layoff for Okay see sometimes it helps you.
Speaker 1: Obviously they're gonna have fresh legs, but not playing playoff
Speaker 1: basketball for as long as they had hadn't played, you know,
Speaker 1: there was a little rust at times. You could see that.
Speaker 1: And I agree with everything you say Oklahoma City has.
Speaker 1: But what I do like about Denver is they've been
Speaker 1: there and they've done that, and they have the best
Speaker 1: player in the world who's very engaged right now, and
Speaker 1: he's got the rest of his team.
Speaker 3: Matt, that's a great point.
Speaker 5: And like Matt, Max knows that Sam Casel didn't have
Speaker 5: playoff experience when he came in, you know, in the
Speaker 5: championship round.
Speaker 1: But he had, but he had a lot of he
Speaker 1: had a lot of OG's around.
Speaker 2: Him who had Yeah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, and then you know, and you know that that
Speaker 1: that that that confidence is contagious, you know, what I mean,
Speaker 1: if you're around the team, you're around Max, you're around Clyde,
Speaker 1: you're around motherfucker, then have already done it. That ship
Speaker 1: is gonna rub off on a younger player. And I'm
Speaker 1: not just say that okay See won't win this series.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a great series. I'm personally
Speaker 1: picking Denver because I feel like this is the last
Speaker 1: hurdle of okac's learning curve. I think they're gonna learn
Speaker 1: so much. If they end up losing from this and
Speaker 1: from here on out after the season, watch the fuck out.
Speaker 1: But I think this could be the last season of
Speaker 1: their learning curve. And I love experience when come playoff time,
Speaker 1: and and the way Yoki is playing, and the way
Speaker 1: Aaron Gordon has been playing two game winners in this playoff.
Speaker 1: Michael Porter Junior has woken up. As you mentioned, Murray's
Speaker 1: is playing good basketball. Is playing that uh Brown excuse me,
Speaker 1: or how you say his last Nay Brown is playing
Speaker 1: that uh that type more of more of a skilled score. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that I like too. So I mean them boys are
Speaker 1: playing right right now. Adam and is kind of getting
Speaker 1: out the way and letting them boys do it. So
Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting. But Max, what did you see
Speaker 1: in game one?
Speaker 4: Well, to figure back off what you said, I I like, uh, okay,
Speaker 4: see win in the series. I just feel like, uh
Speaker 4: like Jalen didn't have a great game.
Speaker 2: Ship Chat.
Speaker 4: You make the damn two free throws. I'm sorry, Check,
Speaker 4: you know how much I love you. You gotta make
Speaker 4: them free throws. Down and stretch, brother, you make them
Speaker 4: two free free throws, and fuck they go down there
Speaker 4: and hit the three. Okay, we're going overtime. Okay, but
Speaker 4: you know that's real big in in the playoffs making
Speaker 4: it free throw. I mean my father's turnovers and making
Speaker 4: free throws. And I pick it back over what you
Speaker 4: said too, Matt about the experience level, And that's true.
Speaker 2: That's what happened to my fucking Rockets, you know.
Speaker 4: Oh, I mean with Golden State, just didn't have enough experience,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? All those guys, they're great
Speaker 4: young players and a great young team, but shit, he
Speaker 4: got these guys, some won three four damn championships, and
Speaker 4: I mean together, man, that's big man. In the game seven,
Speaker 4: I don't give a damn for you just playing it
Speaker 4: at somebody's backyard for the Rockets. You know, Golden State's
Speaker 4: gonna win that goddamn game. So and I knew that,
Speaker 4: but I'm just saying, man experiences everything.
Speaker 2: And uh and and like you said, joke it.
Speaker 4: He's so engaged now he just like that, damn just
Speaker 4: give me the ball and get the hell out the way.
Speaker 4: And just a guy who gets he had to what.
Speaker 4: I think he led the NBA and touches this year.
Speaker 4: I thank you and shit and and that's big, you know,
Speaker 4: I mean, so and a guy that getting all those
Speaker 4: touches and knowing what the fuck to do with the
Speaker 4: ball every time, making a lot of decision making a
Speaker 4: lot of the right decision decisions.
Speaker 2: Man, that's tough, man. But it's gonna be a tough
Speaker 2: for Okac. But I still got the.
Speaker 4: Young guys pulling that. It's got to do seven. Now,
Speaker 4: they got to go up in Denver and win one now.
Speaker 1: M yeah, we shall see, We shall see. Halliburton, Papa Halliburton,
Speaker 1: John Halliburton has been banned from Pacer games for this
Speaker 1: foreseeable future because of what happened at the end of
Speaker 1: Game seven with Giannis during the Bucks series, kind of
Speaker 1: overshadowing you know what the pacer they will do to
Speaker 1: the bucks. How do you guys look at this, Because
Speaker 1: when I initially looked at it, I looked at it
Speaker 1: one way. My initial thought was, you're lucky you did
Speaker 1: it to a nice guy, because if you would have
Speaker 1: hit someone like me or Max, you might have got
Speaker 1: you might have got Daffy Ducks. But after I kind
Speaker 1: of watched it a little bit, and then I was
Speaker 1: talking to some people who know him really well. He's
Speaker 1: just a really proud father. I think that was caught
Speaker 1: up in the moment. And I think we've all been
Speaker 1: caught up in the moment one time or another. And
Speaker 1: obviously our shit hasn't or actually some of it has
Speaker 1: probably been caught on camera, but you know, our stuff
Speaker 1: didn't happen at the end of a you know, a
Speaker 1: crazy back and forth series. But I'm looking at more
Speaker 1: as a father now, as a proud father of his son,
Speaker 1: and you get to know that, you know, this guy
Speaker 1: goes back and referees in the inner cities, and he's
Speaker 1: huge as far as giving back, and I just think
Speaker 1: he really just loves the fuck out of his son.
Speaker 1: And he's a black father that is there to support
Speaker 1: in dispelling the narrative of you know, there's no well
Speaker 1: black fathers, all these players from single month, I think
Speaker 1: you throw all that into the mix, and I kind
Speaker 1: of see it. I look at it different now, and
Speaker 1: I'm not bothered by it. I think it was a
Speaker 1: mistake obviously, but shit, he has to pay for it now, man.
Speaker 1: And I think one thing that I've heard is Halley
Speaker 1: the son is a little disappointed with Pops and he
Speaker 1: want them to just shit, sit still and shut up
Speaker 1: so he can focus on what needs to be done.
Speaker 1: But when you guys initially saw that, Max, what did
Speaker 1: you think when you initially sell Pops on the floor
Speaker 1: waving the towel of his son's face and Jannie's face.
Speaker 2: Well, I was and this series was over too, So
Speaker 2: what I thought. I was like, Shit, Wow, what I
Speaker 2: would have done, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I probably would have hit him with a two piece,
Speaker 4: But I'm saying that ain't the right ship to do.
Speaker 1: Right. He got the right one though, because is a good,
Speaker 1: mild manner dude. But he would have did that to
Speaker 1: the wrong one. It could have been real. He could
Speaker 1: have escalated, absolutely, So that's what I was like. But
Speaker 1: and I get it.
Speaker 4: And to a lot of people don't know what you
Speaker 4: just said, Matt, you know, they probably say, this dude's asshole.
Speaker 4: You know, Haller Burtons got a asshole because I didn't
Speaker 4: know all this about him, what you said, just said,
Speaker 4: until now.
Speaker 2: So god damn.
Speaker 4: I was like, man, this dude's asshole. That's what I thought,
Speaker 4: just like I knew I was an asshole. But my kid,
Speaker 4: my oldest son, was playing ball. I know, motherfuckers that
Speaker 4: ran me out of gyms. So, I mean so, I
Speaker 4: get it, you know, I get it. I was a
Speaker 4: proud motherfucker father, you know, So I didn't got kicked
Speaker 4: out of big games for my son playing.
Speaker 2: I mean so, and I get it.
Speaker 4: But you know at these games, man, where you can
Speaker 4: drink that fucking alcohol, man some point, and sometimes you
Speaker 4: gotta cut each motherfuckers off.
Speaker 2: Man, when you.
Speaker 4: See this motherfucker getting right, you gotta cut these motherfuckers
Speaker 4: off when you see I mean this man that had
Speaker 4: four five six of Matt, Come on, man, this motherfucker
Speaker 4: I get cut off, all right, all right, I senor,
Speaker 4: We're gonna give you something that water feed the s
Speaker 4: motherfucker water. So but other than that, man God's probably
Speaker 4: a great guy, man. But you're right, Matt, he had
Speaker 4: to He went to the right motherfucker and did that shit.
Speaker 1: So and you know, but.
Speaker 4: I'm just glad nothing escalated, but he did take away
Speaker 4: from the sunshine from winning the you know round and
Speaker 4: and but I mean, more power to your Haliburton. Keep
Speaker 4: doing what you're doing. You had a great game one.
Speaker 4: Let's see what you do tonight, baby boy.
Speaker 1: And uh and real quick before you answer, Katie. As
Speaker 1: a father, I've actually had the punishment that Halliburton's pop
Speaker 1: has had. Actually at Harvard Westlake. I couldn't go to
Speaker 1: Harvard Westlake this year because of the ship that happened
Speaker 1: in the last season or the people was out of
Speaker 1: pocket talking to me, and I responded and they gave
Speaker 1: me a year's suspension from from from Harvard Westlake. So
Speaker 1: when I've been able to talk to the people in
Speaker 1: charge over there, and next year I'll be allowed back
Speaker 1: in the building. But you know, sometimes you do get
Speaker 1: caught in the moment. As a proud father, Max, you mentioned,
Speaker 1: you know, get kicked out of your son's games, And
Speaker 1: I can I say, Man, I had a blessed and
Speaker 1: so much fun playing in the NBA. But nothing makes
Speaker 1: me prouder than watching my kids excel and succeed something
Speaker 1: they love doing well. So again, I can completely put
Speaker 1: myself in John Halliburton's space. I'm gonna get John. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get John on the show.
Speaker 3: We gotta get them.
Speaker 1: I'm sure, yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure Holly's making them
Speaker 1: be quiet right now. But I'm gonna get John on
Speaker 1: the show. We're gonna caller that John Man. We're gonna
Speaker 1: get a little redptions.
Speaker 2: After the Let's get him on after the playoffs.
Speaker 1: He probably can come, Katie, what you think, No, Man,
Speaker 1: I see that.
Speaker 5: I see both sides of it, Matt, because you know,
Speaker 5: a father of four and so like, I do take
Speaker 5: a lot of pride in the fact that I've cuptivated
Speaker 5: and helped my kids develop their skill set, whether it's
Speaker 5: through tennis, whether it's through baseball, et cetera.
Speaker 3: So I do understand that point of it.
Speaker 5: I do think that it is a little bit cloudy
Speaker 5: in a sense where like kind of going in front
Speaker 5: of Giannis after you lose the game, Matt, you don't
Speaker 5: lost the game.
Speaker 3: We done cried in locker rooms and things like that.
Speaker 5: Together, as men when we're trying to pursue like greatness
Speaker 5: and things like that. So like when we lose, it's
Speaker 5: a certain amount of emotions that come with it. And
Speaker 5: I believe like sometimes like emotional intelligence, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean, and impost kind of like runs together, and
Speaker 5: so like, you know, I just didn't think that that
Speaker 5: was the timing was right for him to be able
Speaker 5: to do that to Giannis, to a player of that
Speaker 5: caliber at that.
Speaker 3: Moment, in that time, in that space.
Speaker 5: I just remember like telling my pops, like when I
Speaker 5: played for the Heat, Like Pops, like, don't don't walk
Speaker 5: outside with the Cavasier at the end of the day.
Speaker 5: I know they're serving it up in the family room
Speaker 5: and all those different things, but like, dude, don't walk
Speaker 5: out with the Covasier because like I still got a name,
Speaker 5: a likeness, an image that I'm trying to project, and I.
Speaker 3: Got a job to do. This is my job.
Speaker 5: I'm not coming to your job, you know, or your business.
Speaker 5: And in partant like how I feel things should go.
Speaker 5: And because the stakes are so high, I feel like,
Speaker 5: you know, his father kind of missed the mark on
Speaker 5: that he got kind of called up in the emotions
Speaker 5: that doesn't take away like the journey, right and the
Speaker 5: support and the love and the appreciation that he has.
Speaker 5: But that could have turned into another malice at the palace,
Speaker 5: especially Indiana being.
Speaker 3: A part of that.
Speaker 5: That could have been something that could have spiraled out
Speaker 5: of control. And so I do think that, like you know, okay,
Speaker 5: like you know, like holding Pops accountable, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean, Tyree's taking his stance along the way at
Speaker 5: the end of the day, Like, dude, he's a MAX player.
Speaker 5: I know he wears short shorts, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: I know a lot of the NBA players hate on
Speaker 5: him and.
Speaker 3: Things like that. I know the Kings got rid of him.
Speaker 5: But man, Tyrese has go gold medal, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean, He's an All Star. He's got the pacers rolling,
Speaker 5: and so like, at the end of the day, man,
Speaker 5: let's enjoy the journey because I'm telling you, man, that
Speaker 5: shit ends Max, you and I will say all those
Speaker 5: things at some point, it ends, right And so like
Speaker 5: you know, while you're in it, you got to be
Speaker 5: appreciative and respectful of the rhythm that comes along with
Speaker 5: the game.
Speaker 1: Katie, I think you before we move on, I think
Speaker 1: he made a great point. I think both Halley and
Speaker 1: Pops have a chip on the shoulder. I mean, he
Speaker 1: was voted the most overrated player by his peers. That
Speaker 1: shit hurts. I mean, you can have the news media
Speaker 1: and me I'll be able to say shit about you
Speaker 1: and talk trash and degree, but when your peers vote
Speaker 1: you the most overrated player in the game, I know
Speaker 1: he took that shit. Personally, he's playing with that kind
Speaker 1: of swagger and ship, and I know if someone voted
Speaker 1: my son that, I'll be ready to fight everybody too.
Speaker 1: So I totally understand where Pops was coming from. Doesn't
Speaker 1: make it right. It doesn't make what Pops still right.
Speaker 1: But the one thing I do like is obviously I
Speaker 1: love the way Giannis was able to articulate the situation
Speaker 1: and have forgiveness in his speech, and both the dudes
Speaker 1: said I love you to each other. So again, I'm
Speaker 1: glad it didn't escalate to anything big and we definitely
Speaker 1: got to get Big John to come fuck with us
Speaker 1: on Unplugged and hear his side. But moving on, fellas
Speaker 1: a legend has stepped away from the coaching sidelines. Greg
Speaker 1: Popovich is now the president of Basketball operations for the
Speaker 1: Spurs after suffering a mild stroke in November. Pop is
Speaker 1: seventy six years old, one of the greatest to ever
Speaker 1: do it, twenty nine seasons, coaching twenty two straight consecutive
Speaker 1: playoff appearances from nineteen ninety eight to twenty nineteen, won
Speaker 1: five championships ninety nine, three, five, seven, fourteen, gold medalist
Speaker 1: in the Olympics. A true legend is stepping aside and
Speaker 1: stepping into the front office. But what was a little
Speaker 1: more concerning to me was just his health. Pop doesn't
Speaker 1: look good and it's scary and it's sad, and it
Speaker 1: hurts my heart because he's gave his life to this
Speaker 1: game and to see him have to have help getting
Speaker 1: up and guys walking next to him to make sure
Speaker 1: he gets to that shit just really hurt my heart. Obviously,
Speaker 1: I'm happy for him and and you know, obviously him
Speaker 1: going up to the front office, but just as a human,
Speaker 1: it scares me a little bit.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: We're getting to an age now where we're seeing our
Speaker 1: mentors are getting older and slowing down and some are passing,
Speaker 1: and it's obviously a blessing for us to be making
Speaker 1: it this far and a blessing for them, but just
Speaker 1: the reality of life is, you know, some of these
Speaker 1: guys are getting a lot older. So Max, what did
Speaker 1: you think about what you saw? And then also do
Speaker 1: you have a favorite Pop story being out there in Texas?
Speaker 4: Well, Pop was just you know, he's one of the
Speaker 4: guys that bought me in there the San Antonio they
Speaker 4: drafted me, well, they traded for me.
Speaker 2: Denver drafted me. They traded for me the same night.
Speaker 2: So a lot of love for Pop. Great man, great father,
Speaker 2: that's great husband, great grandpap.
Speaker 4: I mean, he's everything, man, But like you said, he's
Speaker 4: gave his whole damn life to the game man. And
Speaker 4: it did hurt me too to see him helping Pop
Speaker 4: the way they was helping him move around the way
Speaker 4: it was moving around. But like I said, I always
Speaker 4: tell my friends still today, I'll be like, Nigga, shit,
Speaker 4: I got, I got thirty five good ones left, motherfucker.
Speaker 4: So hey, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta live these.
Speaker 2: Mother But I'm thirty five.
Speaker 4: You know, I turned sixty on September the twelfth, So wow,
Speaker 4: thirty five more good ones left. So shit, So I'd
Speaker 4: be like, man, I mean, we all got our exit dates.
Speaker 2: And you know, Pop's done a lot.
Speaker 4: Of great things for a lot of good people, a
Speaker 4: lot of people, and helped alone the way even me
Speaker 4: still today, you know what I mean, Like I just said, man,
Speaker 4: Pop is up. He's a basketball junkie and he can't
Speaker 4: leave the game.
Speaker 2: He's not not in a step away from the game.
Speaker 4: But just him, just for him to be still up
Speaker 4: there in the office being the president doing what his
Speaker 4: just his knowledge and just his presence, just being up
Speaker 4: there in that office. I mean, it's it and it
Speaker 4: makes him. It means so much of the organization. Man,
Speaker 4: because when you say Sam Antonio Spurs, you say, so
Speaker 4: that's how you say.
Speaker 2: That's how I feel about that, Yeah, KD Yeah.
Speaker 5: Man, So like of the Mount Rushmore to me, you know,
Speaker 5: it's Red r Back, Phil Jackson, Pat Rowley, Greg Pofovich
Speaker 5: in my opinion, right, I think that like Pop was
Speaker 5: the most reachable of all of those guys. Though I
Speaker 5: didn't know Red and his impact, you know what I mean,
Speaker 5: because like I was, time stamped out of that. But
Speaker 5: like for our generation, man like Pop impacted us. He
Speaker 5: would always give us a word, or always have some sarcasm,
Speaker 5: or always have something you know what I mean to
Speaker 5: engage with.
Speaker 3: Right, and then you look at.
Speaker 5: His disciples, the eighth Verie Johnson's of the World. Right,
Speaker 5: you look at you know, you look at this Sam
Speaker 5: Presty having great success. Like not only did he build
Speaker 5: co in players, he built like infrastructure and so like
Speaker 5: when you see Draymond reach out to him, when you
Speaker 5: see you know, Murray you know, like leave Louisiana after
Speaker 5: like having an injury and being there for Pop.
Speaker 3: In that moment.
Speaker 5: You see that, like he's been able to impact the
Speaker 5: generations across the board. So I will miss his energy
Speaker 5: on the sideline. I actually saw like one of the
Speaker 5: teams in the playoffs like send a trap from.
Speaker 3: The backside, which is a Pop.
Speaker 5: Technique, you know what I mean, to be able to
Speaker 5: stop Jokic, even though they didn't really stop them, but
Speaker 5: maybe on that possession. But like he you know, not
Speaker 5: only from a strategic standpoint, impacted the game from a
Speaker 5: manhood standpoint. He impacted the game from a social standpoint.
Speaker 5: He took stances that sometimes were unpopular from you know,
Speaker 5: a feminism standpoint.
Speaker 3: He hired women you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: To be you know, assistant coaches, like he is a trailblazer.
Speaker 5: He is something special to us. We love Pop, we
Speaker 5: respect Pop, we appreciate him, and all we care about
Speaker 5: is his health. And I'm glad he doesn't have to
Speaker 5: go cold turkey and figure it out, right.
Speaker 3: I'm glad that he gets too.
Speaker 5: Though he stepped down, he elevated right, which was really like, he's.
Speaker 3: A natural leader at the end of the day.
Speaker 5: So man, I'm just glad that Pop is still a
Speaker 5: part of the San Antonio fabric. And I hope that
Speaker 5: other teams can take the same approach with people who
Speaker 5: we you know, put on a pedalstal because a lot
Speaker 5: of times they'll chew you up.
Speaker 3: This system will chew you up and spit you.
Speaker 1: Out, spit you out. Absolutely great coach, but even better person. Pop.
Speaker 1: And I'll share a quick story before we get out
Speaker 1: of here. When I was playing with Memphis my second
Speaker 1: to last season, we played them in the playoffs and
Speaker 1: our whole team was fucking hurt. And I remember after
Speaker 1: the series, he came out to me. He said, Barnes,
Speaker 1: he played your ass off, but you can't bring the
Speaker 1: spoon to a knife fight. Absolutely, I mean to your guys' point,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know we're concerned now just about you know,
Speaker 1: him enjoying the rest of his time. I mean, we
Speaker 1: all have us us on this screen have more time
Speaker 1: behind us than we do in front of us. Man,
Speaker 1: so we definitely got to cherish our times, fellas. I
Speaker 1: appreciate you guys joining me today. I will see you
Speaker 1: guys back here soon.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: You guys enjoy your day.
Speaker 3: Matt Max. I'm gonna be like you when I grow up.
Speaker 1: Matt.
Speaker 3: Thank you, bro for all that you do.
Speaker 1: Bro. Now back for our favorite segment and our favorite resident.
Speaker 1: He doesn't want to be called hater, so let's just
Speaker 1: call him Eugene Davis today or fire presented by Roe
Speaker 1: Sparks Fast acting long lasting ed treatment for Geno JJ
Speaker 1: Reddick is under not necessary. A little bit of fire,
Speaker 1: I think people have kind of it was taking offense
Speaker 1: the wrong word for just kind of his energy towards
Speaker 1: the media a little bit in this tough first round
Speaker 1: exit versus the Wolves. But he recently said, without naming names,
Speaker 1: that guys must get in champion chip shape.
Speaker 6: I'll start with the off season and the work that's
Speaker 6: required in an off season to be in championship shape.
Speaker 6: And you know we have a ways to go as
Speaker 6: a roster, and certainly there are individuals that were in
Speaker 6: phenomenal shape. There's certainly other ones that could have been
Speaker 6: in better shape. That's where my mind goes immediately, is
Speaker 6: you know, we have to get.
Speaker 1: In championship shape. Is that Sparks or fire? I don't
Speaker 1: think it was a low key call out. I think
Speaker 1: it was a high key call out. And I think
Speaker 1: we all know who he was talking about. He was
Speaker 1: talking about Luca. But is this Sparks or fire? Geno?
Speaker 1: This fire? Okay? Talk to me.
Speaker 7: I mean he has a lot of nerve talking about
Speaker 7: getting shape.
Speaker 1: Though, to me, why is that?
Speaker 7: Because he needs to get his coaching together too, Like
Speaker 7: you know, he also has to do some work in
Speaker 7: the off season.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there's no quote having first year coach coaching
Speaker 1: Lakers and don't get mad. I'm just saying fifty wins
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, I think they overachieved. They got the
Speaker 1: third seed. I thought, personally, to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: that after the trade Dallas removing injury was a better
Speaker 1: roster for the playoffs and making a championship run than
Speaker 1: the Lakers. I think the Lakers caught some chemistry fire
Speaker 1: and did well got to the third seed. But I've
Speaker 1: always thought that they have a poorly constructed roster and
Speaker 1: adding Luca was a long term play, not a short
Speaker 1: term play. But I saw you lost your mind. I mean,
Speaker 1: you wanted Lebron gone, you wanted you want to, you
Speaker 1: wanted Bronny gone, you want jj gunn. You think Luca
Speaker 1: needs to get out of here? How can you trade him? Like?
Speaker 1: You were very emotional and I kind of let you
Speaker 1: just be emotional, don't. I didn't want to. I didn't
Speaker 1: want to trigger you because I was gonna fuck with you,
Speaker 1: But I just let you be emotional on social media.
Speaker 1: What is your thoughts now that that the you know,
Speaker 1: we're into the second round, the Lakers are in cancoon?
Speaker 1: Lebron put out a tweet yesterday that he wasn't going
Speaker 1: to be able to make the met Gala because of
Speaker 1: his kneecap. Where are you at with your team and
Speaker 1: and and moving forward?
Speaker 7: I mean it was depressing to watch, and I'm talking
Speaker 7: for the whole city at LA. I mean, we're all
Speaker 7: the depressed behind our team that's being around playing for
Speaker 7: the rest of the playoffs. You know how boring it
Speaker 7: is to watch the playoffs without the Lakers. I believe
Speaker 7: you post that. You know what you see Lebron. That's
Speaker 7: the statue. That's his new statue right there. You posted that.
Speaker 1: That's perfect. You saw it. I didn't see that, Lebron.
Speaker 1: All these hating takes are from from Eugene Davis is
Speaker 1: Twitter handle. I don't have nothing to do with this.
Speaker 1: What else you have? N I told Nate said he
Speaker 1: screenshot and all your bullshit just to bring it on here.
Speaker 1: He did see how LA fans.
Speaker 7: Lebron's not exempt from ridicule from when we take Al's bro. So,
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Nobody is talking about. Nobody is well, how do you
Speaker 1: feel moving forward? Obviously, depth in the front court is
Speaker 1: is a must. JJ didn't play Jackson Hayes. I don't
Speaker 1: know what Jackson did, but he just must have not
Speaker 1: have did enough. He didn't get a chance to get
Speaker 1: I wonder what we can do for you know, I
Speaker 1: can't bad eyes Luca this off season. What does his
Speaker 1: team need?
Speaker 7: I mean, we need a big man, a sap. I
Speaker 7: feel like that's the first point of business this summer
Speaker 7: is locking up a big man. We saw what happened
Speaker 7: against Minnesota. We had Copert looking like Wilt Chamberlain, Like, seriously,
Speaker 7: I've never seen him look like that before. And of
Speaker 7: course it's against us, yes, in the closeout game, of course,
Speaker 7: for our season. But I mean, I'm hearing all kinds
Speaker 7: of things Rumlins Giannis, which Nates tells me is a
Speaker 7: dream I shouldn't even dream about.
Speaker 1: I saw no I saw a list today, and it
Speaker 1: would they would have to make some shit work. But
Speaker 1: he has four big city destinations that that that intrigue him,
Speaker 1: and a Los Angeles. They didn't say what LA team,
Speaker 1: but they said Los Angeles was on there, so I
Speaker 1: don't think that's too far. Fett.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, And then I heard Jared Jackson from Memphis.
Speaker 7: I'm down with that too. Anything to get somebody.
Speaker 1: Jared Jackson, What did I say? Yeah?
Speaker 7: Whatever, Bro, you know what I'm talking about. But we
Speaker 7: need a a big to come in and set the
Speaker 7: tone for next season, especially moving forward. If we're going
Speaker 7: to be resigning Luca a long time.
Speaker 1: Well you're definitely going to do that. I just feel Luca.
Speaker 1: I'm sure everyone's giving him advice Center right now. It
Speaker 1: is going through one ear and out the other. In
Speaker 1: shape is going to be a priority, I think for him.
Speaker 1: I think his diet is going to be a priority
Speaker 1: for him, just to slim down because he is bigger
Speaker 1: out there. And you can hide a little bit in
Speaker 1: Dallas with kind of some of the shit you were doing,
Speaker 1: but you can't hide in LA with some of the
Speaker 1: shit you're doing. The percentage of him getting blown by
Speaker 1: is just unacceptable. He's going to need to get with
Speaker 1: the apply metrics coach to get his feet faster and
Speaker 1: his agility, and most importantly is shape because obviously he's
Speaker 1: asked to carry a huge load offensively, and that is
Speaker 1: I'm sure I've never had to carry that title load,
Speaker 1: but I'm sure that's draining. But he also has to
Speaker 1: be present on defense. And I think Steph Curry went
Speaker 1: through some of this earlier in his career, where he
Speaker 1: was someone that team's targeted and it wasn't that Steph
Speaker 1: became a great defender overnight. Steph just started putting in
Speaker 1: great effort on the defensive end, and that's all it takes.
Speaker 1: You don't have Luca doesn't have to be a great defender.
Speaker 1: Luca just has to give fucking effort on the defensive end,
Speaker 1: and you need a great team defense behind him. But again,
Speaker 1: I'm still someone that believes his offense outraised his bad defense.
Speaker 1: I still think this was a good move. I think
Speaker 1: this was a move for the future. So again, I
Speaker 1: feel like they overachieved this year and got hot and
Speaker 1: you know, at the end of the at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, the better team won in Minnesota. Shout
Speaker 1: out Julius Randall. He played with the chip on his
Speaker 1: shoulder the whole series. And if you don't want to
Speaker 1: be the face of the league, stop playing some motherfucking good, bro,
Speaker 1: because you are going to be the face of the league.
Speaker 1: You're a bad motherfucker and just deal with it. Gobert
Speaker 1: played great, and you know Grobert takes a lot of criticisms,
Speaker 1: so I definitely want to make sure we give him
Speaker 1: some love for his twenty twenty game, the way he
Speaker 1: was able to affect the game and at the end
Speaker 1: of the day send the Lakers home. So how long
Speaker 1: are you going to be saying you're wearing black? Like
Speaker 1: the series over? I know that the series been over almost, you.
Speaker 7: Know, almost are going to watch any more basketball. He
Speaker 7: almost gave up, But now I funk with the Knicks
Speaker 7: because I need them to be Boston.
Speaker 1: They can't get Boston.
Speaker 7: They get nineteen, Bro.
Speaker 1: Because they're one ahead right now, right eighteen seventeen.
Speaker 3: Let's go.
Speaker 7: Let's go Knicks.
Speaker 1: So that's it, that's your whole thing is for the
Speaker 1: nixt Absolutely, absolutely well, Geno, thank you for spending this
Speaker 1: season with us, show showing us how volatile Laker fans
Speaker 1: are in LA. At least you got the Dodgers. I
Speaker 1: hear you. Absolutely, we need to start getting some games lons.
Speaker 1: The homie now we need to start getting some more Dodgers.
Speaker 7: Make the call, he tells you every time he sees.
Speaker 1: You, Bro, we got to get out there line we
Speaker 1: come into some Dodger games, man, since Geno is depressed
Speaker 1: about his Lakers. Yes, well, Gino, great season for you guys,
Speaker 1: third seed in the West, first round exit, fifty wins
Speaker 1: for JJ. I think the future is Bron made some demand,
Speaker 1: some some ship is going to happen. You know, Rob
Speaker 1: just signed that extension, so Rob is on the hot
Speaker 1: seat again.
Speaker 7: Do you think Lebron should take a pay cut to
Speaker 7: get some more players.
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna tell a man to take his you know,
Speaker 1: do what we do anything with his money? But if
Speaker 1: you want more guys to be able to come to
Speaker 1: the team, some guys are gonna have to make sacrifices.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure, especially if anything is true about getting
Speaker 1: close to getting you honest, I'm sure some restructuring will
Speaker 1: have to be done. So we'll have to see how
Speaker 1: much these guys want it. You know, the Lakers are
Speaker 1: never down for too long, so at least you can
Speaker 1: hang your hat on net. It's a nice hat. By
Speaker 1: the way, I appreciate that. Good season, bro. I'll give
Speaker 1: you a hug off camera. Team up with DraftKings Pick
Speaker 1: six to give you guys some picks for these playoff
Speaker 1: matchups Wednesday Night Nicks versus the Celtics. I feel like
Speaker 1: Jalen Brunson will have more points than the Draft Kings
Speaker 1: Pick six has him at. And I feel like Jason
Speaker 1: Tatum will make more threes than the Draft Kings Pick
Speaker 1: six has him at. That's a rat for this week
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Speaker 1: next week
Speaker 3: To pervis Previty