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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Unplugged, brought to you by Draft Kings.

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Speaker 1: We have a lot of hoops to discuss today, fellas,

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Speaker 1: but first let me welcome my two guests, my former

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Speaker 1: teammate and homeboy Kean Dueling fresh out Welcome, and my

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Speaker 1: dog Max Max hey Man.

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Speaker 2: Nice to see you too, Bang of boy. Kean, What's

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Speaker 2: what's up?

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Speaker 1: Home Team?

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Speaker 3: What's up? Florida Boy? What they do?

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Speaker 2: Love?

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Speaker 1: Max? I heard you still. I heard you're still waiting

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Speaker 1: on your pack, Max Man flee.

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Speaker 4: I was about to ask you what we came up this, Max,

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Speaker 4: I'm down here about to have to bysop.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, before we jumped on air today, I walked into

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Speaker 1: an interesting conversation of kind of redemption for both you guys. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean myself included. We've all been through

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Speaker 1: some ship and we've all had to atone for our mishaps.

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Speaker 1: And what does it mean to both of you to

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Speaker 1: kind of be able to start to regain your footing

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Speaker 1: in a space you dearly love Katie, y'all start with you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So I'm big on seniority, So the O G

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Speaker 5: always get to go first.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm been past the mic. Then Okay, what's what's

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Speaker 1: the meaning to you? Man? You know obviously you know

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Speaker 1: you you played before us and got out before us

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Speaker 1: and and out outstanding career, but obviously you had some

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Speaker 1: trouble off the court. Uh. We ended up connecting on

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Speaker 1: a whim at All Star and it's been amazing ever since.

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Speaker 1: But what is it? How's it? How's it been for

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Speaker 1: you to kind of get in the same question I

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Speaker 1: gave Kad to kind of regain your footing in the

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Speaker 1: space you love so much.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's a blessing for me, because man, I was it.

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Speaker 4: I was down to at a low man, a point

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Speaker 4: in my life where you know, I didn't know what.

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Speaker 2: Direction was up in which waves down.

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Speaker 4: And I had this young guy come up to me

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Speaker 4: at my son's basketball game when my son was playing

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Speaker 4: at North mech High School, and he was like he

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Speaker 4: had this visioness name is Cam.

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Speaker 2: Carter, my dad who hit? Who really heads up.

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Speaker 4: My uh whatever everything that I do. And he was like,

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Speaker 4: young kid, I think he was like twenty three twenty

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Speaker 4: four at the time. He was like, Max, you know,

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Speaker 4: I think you could You'll be a good podcaster.

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Speaker 2: And I looked at him.

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Speaker 4: I was like shit, Like I was looking at him like, Nigga,

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Speaker 4: how much money that shit gonna cost me? You know,

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Speaker 4: I thought, I was like, shit, this ship calls meself, Weddy.

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Speaker 4: I ain't ready to do that, you know, I got

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Speaker 4: I'm you know, I'm trying to stay alive. So but

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Speaker 4: then I finally got into it. And then one thing

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Speaker 4: led to another that started getting start. You know, it's

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Speaker 4: all about the numbers, Matt, and the numbers started coming

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Speaker 4: together a little bit for me. H when I was

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Speaker 4: with this company called Babarda and shout out to Babada

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Speaker 4: because if for them too, I wasn't. I was able

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Speaker 4: to get out and do what I had to do.

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Speaker 4: And but just like kept grinding, man, and kept grinding.

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Speaker 4: And then I started with my mental health thing, my LLC,

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Speaker 4: you know, the Vernon Maxwell Initiative. LLC started the mental

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Speaker 4: health thing. And it was a blessing for me because,

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Speaker 4: like I say about it all the time, if I

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Speaker 4: can help one person when I talk about the mental

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Speaker 4: health space, man, you know, I don't care one person.

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Speaker 4: If I can just help one person, they get it.

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Speaker 4: And it means so much to me that, you know.

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Speaker 4: And then another thing with that, you know, and I

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Speaker 4: just like to say in the black community is you know,

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Speaker 4: we don't talk about it enough. And I think it's

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Speaker 4: very much needed, you know, and we sided you know,

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Speaker 4: we all want to be you know, Mandingo's the big

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Speaker 4: man and you know in the crowd so and you know,

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Speaker 4: so I just think, you know, it's okay to be

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Speaker 4: to ask for help if you need it.

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Speaker 2: And that's my thing, and that's.

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Speaker 4: What I care about, and that's that's that's what I

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Speaker 4: like to talk about outside of talking shit about all

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Speaker 4: my stories that I tell. And so that's the reason

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Speaker 4: what helped me get to this space where I'm at today.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate my guys on all the smoke.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're happy to We're happy to have you KD

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Speaker 1: same question down, yeah, man.

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Speaker 5: Just to piggyback what MaTx said is that, like there's

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Speaker 5: some stigmas that come along with us as black men,

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Speaker 5: Like we're not supposed to cry, we're not supposed to

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Speaker 5: have feelings, we're supposed to internalize, right, all those different things.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 5: But the the other side of that is that, man,

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Speaker 5: we see some traumas coming up. I know, I got

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Speaker 5: exposed to a lot of stuff, sexual abuse at an

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Speaker 5: early age. You know what I mean, seeing gunfights at

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Speaker 5: an early age, poverty, you know what I mean, all

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Speaker 5: these different things that you like carry with you that

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Speaker 5: a lot of times like we are able to channel

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Speaker 5: onto the court in our play right and so like

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Speaker 5: it bring that dog got us like you know, yeo,

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Speaker 5: I'm a dog, But like man, deep down inside, when

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Speaker 5: it gets quiet, when it gets silent, when we don't

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Speaker 5: have an infrastructure like NBA, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: You know what I mean, all these things start coming back,

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Speaker 5: and so like man for me, man like just being

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Speaker 5: a Florida boy and just seeing back og.

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Speaker 3: Mad Max, you know what I mean, in his journey.

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Speaker 5: I still got a problem with how he got hair

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Speaker 5: when he was ball head, when he was like double pump, and.

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Speaker 3: I still got a problem with that.

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Speaker 5: But man, Og like at the end of the day,

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Speaker 5: man like you know, I've gone through some hardships in life,

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Speaker 5: but I've also done some good. And you have to

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Speaker 5: wear your story. Your story is not like chapters in

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Speaker 5: the story.

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Speaker 3: It's a journey, and the journey continues.

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Speaker 5: The marathon continues, rest in peace, Nipsey Hustle, marathon continues.

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Speaker 1: But I think you know that's why this spaces like

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Speaker 1: these are important. You know, we started All the Smoke

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Speaker 1: nearly six years ago to give people a safe platform

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Speaker 1: to come tell their stories, speak their truths. And we

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Speaker 1: all came from an era killa on you and I

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Speaker 1: caught the end of, or excuse me, the beginning of

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Speaker 1: the social media Ara. But Verne, you lived in a

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Speaker 1: full era where what they said about you or what

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Speaker 1: they prayed about you was the gospel. You never had

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Speaker 1: a rebuttal, you never had a voice, you never had

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Speaker 1: that's why I feel like obviously All the Smoke was

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Speaker 1: see a ton of you know, sports podcasts in general. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't look at none of them as competition because

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Speaker 1: I feel like each one has a unique journey and

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Speaker 1: a unique story and something to share. So I'm glad

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Speaker 1: we got a chance to touch on that mental health

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Speaker 1: side and that real side, because again, that's why we

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Speaker 1: do this. But there is business waiting for us, fellas.

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Speaker 1: The second round of the playoffs are here, and let's

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Speaker 1: start with the Celtics, who blew a twenty point lead

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Speaker 1: in the third quarter against the Knicks, Boston in fifteen

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Speaker 1: for sixty from the three point line, Tatum four for fifteen,

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Speaker 1: Brown one for ten. I didn't read too much into this,

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Speaker 1: to be honest with you. Obviously, I applaud the Knicks

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Speaker 1: I feel like this is the type of team Boston is.

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Speaker 1: I still feel like they're the best team in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: I still feel like they will win a championship, but

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Speaker 1: I feel like they have mental lolls sometimes, and one

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Speaker 1: of those lolls are settling a little too much for threes.

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Speaker 1: But what did you guys see in this game last

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Speaker 3: Ojis go first.

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Speaker 4: Ojile shutch Kian, Like I always say, Man, you live

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Speaker 4: by it, you died by it.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you see you know your percentages? Those guys

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Speaker 4: hit those stats. She's over on that sideline. They get

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Speaker 4: to look at it. We wouldn't able to do that,

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Speaker 4: but they get to look at that motherfucker and you

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Speaker 4: see that you won for seven, one for eight. Then

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Speaker 4: god damn, you gotta change it. You gotta change what

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Speaker 4: you're doing, you know what I mean, But Boston gave

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Speaker 2: I mean, they got to kill on the other side

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Speaker 4: Man, this guy, I mean, I'm telling you, man, he's

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Speaker 4: probably playing the best basketball right now in the playoffs. Man,

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Speaker 4: I feel, man, that guy's a killer. Man, he's really

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Speaker 4: really playing exception Well. I love him, man, but I mean,

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Speaker 4: and I just think that Boston will win the series.

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Speaker 4: And I just think now it's gonna go seven games now, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Boston is gonna win the series.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, Yeah, no, the piggyback mans.

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Speaker 5: It's like at the end of the day, you know

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Speaker 5: what I mean, Like, you know, like styles make fights, right,

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Speaker 5: and analytics are a part of the game at this moment,

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Speaker 5: And so the Celtics play at a fast paced and

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Speaker 3: Can win over the course of a year.

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Speaker 5: The playoffs is different, right, it's possession by possession.

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Speaker 3: Big shout out.

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Speaker 5: To the referees, because the referees a lot letting, allowing

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Speaker 5: a lot of stuff to happen that doesn't happen in

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Speaker 5: the regular season, and you know what I mean, Like,

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Speaker 5: you know, I put referees in the same block as

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Speaker 3: Indeed, everything that's forced the law, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: So I have my feelings about them.

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Speaker 5: But I also think that the referees know that there

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Speaker 5: is a time and the space and the playoffs are

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Speaker 5: a unique experience, right, and so they're letting a lot

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Speaker 3: I agree with Max.

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Speaker 5: I believe the Celtics will win ultimately, but I don't

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Speaker 5: think it just has to be rim in threes.

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Speaker 3: I believe that the mid.

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Speaker 5: Range game is what might made Michael Jordan who he is.

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Speaker 5: It's made all the great sinners who they are, you

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Speaker 3: So I don't.

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Speaker 5: Believe like rim and threes are the only way if

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Speaker 5: you go four fifteen, if it's not going from outside,

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Speaker 5: like get.

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Speaker 3: To your MIDI.

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Speaker 5: I know, Jason Tatum, I know Jason Jaylen Brown, I

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Speaker 5: know that you know what I mean, Derrick White. They

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Speaker 5: when you have a guy you know who missus free

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Speaker 5: throws like Mitchell in the game, and you can kind

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Speaker 5: instead of just going rim and threes. I think, if

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Speaker 5: you live by the sword, you die by the sword.

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Speaker 5: And I think this is where analytics versus the eye

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Speaker 5: and experience kind of comes into play, because we haven't

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is this is nothing new for the Celtics.

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Speaker 2: So shit, when you.

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Speaker 4: Just get him there, man, that motherfucker knowing they're gonna

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Speaker 2: And it was close like that.

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Speaker 5: So the first thing I'll say is that Chet's miss

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Speaker 3: I still like okay See.

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Speaker 5: I still think they have, you know, the talent, the

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Speaker 5: So I still like them in the series. But here's

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Speaker 5: the thing, like joke it, the Joker is the best

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Speaker 5: He can get you, you know, thirty plus points, twenty

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Speaker 3: So he is different. He is different.

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Speaker 5: I still like okay See in the series, though, you know,

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Speaker 5: great competition. I still think that Denver, you know what

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Speaker 5: the end of the day, man, I think this is

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Speaker 5: I think that, you know what I mean, Murray is

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Speaker 5: He's still been one of the most elite players in

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Speaker 3: But like, man, we got to tip our.

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Speaker 5: Hat to Joker. Man, like that boy is something unique.

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Speaker 5: He's a unicorn. He's something we never seen and I

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Speaker 1: Kad. You mentioned a lot of things that Oklahoma City has,

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Speaker 1: but there's one thing you didn't mention that they don't have.

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Speaker 1: What's that it's that experience.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been there, and we all know playoffs is

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Speaker 1: Obviously they're gonna have fresh legs, but not playing playoff

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Speaker 1: And I agree with everything you say Oklahoma City has.

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Speaker 1: But what I do like about Denver is they've been

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Speaker 3: Matt, that's a great point.

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Speaker 5: And like Matt, Max knows that Sam Casel didn't have

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, and then you know, and you know that that

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Speaker 1: if you're around the team, you're around Max, you're around Clyde,

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Speaker 1: you're around motherfucker, then have already done it. That ship

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a great series. I'm personally

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Speaker 1: Michael Porter Junior has woken up. As you mentioned, Murray's

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Speaker 4: Well, to figure back off what you said, I I like, uh, okay,

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Speaker 2: Ship Chat.

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Speaker 4: You make the damn two free throws. I'm sorry, Check,

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Speaker 4: two free free throws, and fuck they go down there

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Speaker 2: That's what happened to my fucking Rockets, you know.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I mean with Golden State, just didn't have enough experience,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean? All those guys, they're great

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Speaker 4: but I'm just saying, man experiences everything.

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00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,000
Speaker 2: And uh and and like you said, joke it.

436
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 4: He's so engaged now he just like that, damn just

437
00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,160
Speaker 4: give me the ball and get the hell out the way.

438
00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 4: And just a guy who gets he had to what.

439
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,880
Speaker 4: I think he led the NBA and touches this year.

440
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 4: I thank you and shit and and that's big, you know,

441
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 4: I mean, so and a guy that getting all those

442
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,679
Speaker 4: touches and knowing what the fuck to do with the

443
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:09,119
Speaker 4: ball every time, making a lot of decision making a

444
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 4: lot of the right decision decisions.

445
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 2: Man, that's tough, man. But it's gonna be a tough

446
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,560
Speaker 2: for Okac. But I still got the.

447
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 4: Young guys pulling that. It's got to do seven. Now,

448
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 4: they got to go up in Denver and win one now.

449
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:26,639
Speaker 1: M yeah, we shall see, We shall see. Halliburton, Papa Halliburton,

450
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 1: John Halliburton has been banned from Pacer games for this

451
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,639
Speaker 1: foreseeable future because of what happened at the end of

452
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:37,439
Speaker 1: Game seven with Giannis during the Bucks series, kind of

453
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 1: overshadowing you know what the pacer they will do to

454
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 1: the bucks. How do you guys look at this, Because

455
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 1: when I initially looked at it, I looked at it

456
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 1: one way. My initial thought was, you're lucky you did

457
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 1: it to a nice guy, because if you would have

458
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 1: hit someone like me or Max, you might have got

459
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:59,400
Speaker 1: you might have got Daffy Ducks. But after I kind

460
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:00,960
Speaker 1: of watched it a little bit, and then I was

461
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,880
Speaker 1: talking to some people who know him really well. He's

462
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 1: just a really proud father. I think that was caught

463
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 1: up in the moment. And I think we've all been

464
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 1: caught up in the moment one time or another. And

465
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,959
Speaker 1: obviously our shit hasn't or actually some of it has

466
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,680
Speaker 1: probably been caught on camera, but you know, our stuff

467
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,439
Speaker 1: didn't happen at the end of a you know, a

468
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 1: crazy back and forth series. But I'm looking at more

469
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 1: as a father now, as a proud father of his son,

470
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:27,400
Speaker 1: and you get to know that, you know, this guy

471
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 1: goes back and referees in the inner cities, and he's

472
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,640
Speaker 1: huge as far as giving back, and I just think

473
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,360
Speaker 1: he really just loves the fuck out of his son.

474
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 1: And he's a black father that is there to support

475
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,160
Speaker 1: in dispelling the narrative of you know, there's no well

476
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 1: black fathers, all these players from single month, I think

477
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,120
Speaker 1: you throw all that into the mix, and I kind

478
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 1: of see it. I look at it different now, and

479
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 1: I'm not bothered by it. I think it was a

480
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 1: mistake obviously, but shit, he has to pay for it now, man.

481
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:57,159
Speaker 1: And I think one thing that I've heard is Halley

482
00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 1: the son is a little disappointed with Pops and he

483
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 1: want them to just shit, sit still and shut up

484
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,120
Speaker 1: so he can focus on what needs to be done.

485
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 1: But when you guys initially saw that, Max, what did

486
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 1: you think when you initially sell Pops on the floor

487
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 1: waving the towel of his son's face and Jannie's face.

488
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 2: Well, I was and this series was over too, So

489
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 2: what I thought. I was like, Shit, Wow, what I

490
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 2: would have done, I don't know.

491
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 4: I probably would have hit him with a two piece,

492
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 4: But I'm saying that ain't the right ship to do.

493
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 1: Right. He got the right one though, because is a good,

494
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 1: mild manner dude. But he would have did that to

495
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,640
Speaker 1: the wrong one. It could have been real. He could

496
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 1: have escalated, absolutely, So that's what I was like. But

497
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 1: and I get it.

498
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 4: And to a lot of people don't know what you

499
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 4: just said, Matt, you know, they probably say, this dude's asshole.

500
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 4: You know, Haller Burtons got a asshole because I didn't

501
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 4: know all this about him, what you said, just said,

502
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:55,120
Speaker 4: until now.

503
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 2: So god damn.

504
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 4: I was like, man, this dude's asshole. That's what I thought,

505
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 4: just like I knew I was an asshole. But my kid,

506
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 4: my oldest son, was playing ball. I know, motherfuckers that

507
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 4: ran me out of gyms. So, I mean so, I

508
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 4: get it, you know, I get it. I was a

509
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 4: proud motherfucker father, you know, So I didn't got kicked

510
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 4: out of big games for my son playing.

511
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,639
Speaker 2: I mean so, and I get it.

512
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,719
Speaker 4: But you know at these games, man, where you can

513
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 4: drink that fucking alcohol, man some point, and sometimes you

514
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 4: gotta cut each motherfuckers off.

515
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 2: Man, when you.

516
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 4: See this motherfucker getting right, you gotta cut these motherfuckers

517
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 4: off when you see I mean this man that had

518
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 4: four five six of Matt, Come on, man, this motherfucker

519
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 4: I get cut off, all right, all right, I senor,

520
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:42,879
Speaker 4: We're gonna give you something that water feed the s

521
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,679
Speaker 4: motherfucker water. So but other than that, man God's probably

522
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 4: a great guy, man. But you're right, Matt, he had

523
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 4: to He went to the right motherfucker and did that shit.

524
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 1: So and you know, but.

525
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 4: I'm just glad nothing escalated, but he did take away

526
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 4: from the sunshine from winning the you know round and

527
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,880
Speaker 4: and but I mean, more power to your Haliburton. Keep

528
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 4: doing what you're doing. You had a great game one.

529
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 4: Let's see what you do tonight, baby boy.

530
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 1: And uh and real quick before you answer, Katie. As

531
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:16,360
Speaker 1: a father, I've actually had the punishment that Halliburton's pop

532
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 1: has had. Actually at Harvard Westlake. I couldn't go to

533
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: Harvard Westlake this year because of the ship that happened

534
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 1: in the last season or the people was out of

535
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,360
Speaker 1: pocket talking to me, and I responded and they gave

536
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,199
Speaker 1: me a year's suspension from from from Harvard Westlake. So

537
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 1: when I've been able to talk to the people in

538
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,120
Speaker 1: charge over there, and next year I'll be allowed back

539
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: in the building. But you know, sometimes you do get

540
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,479
Speaker 1: caught in the moment. As a proud father, Max, you mentioned,

541
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 1: you know, get kicked out of your son's games, And

542
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 1: I can I say, Man, I had a blessed and

543
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: so much fun playing in the NBA. But nothing makes

544
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: me prouder than watching my kids excel and succeed something

545
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 1: they love doing well. So again, I can completely put

546
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:59,199
Speaker 1: myself in John Halliburton's space. I'm gonna get John. I'm

547
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:00,200
Speaker 1: gonna get John on the show.

548
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 3: We gotta get them.

549
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 1: I'm sure, yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure Holly's making them

550
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 1: be quiet right now. But I'm gonna get John on

551
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,120
Speaker 1: the show. We're gonna caller that John Man. We're gonna

552
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:09,360
Speaker 1: get a little redptions.

553
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 2: After the Let's get him on after the playoffs.

554
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: He probably can come, Katie, what you think, No, Man,

555
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: I see that.

556
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 5: I see both sides of it, Matt, because you know,

557
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 5: a father of four and so like, I do take

558
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 5: a lot of pride in the fact that I've cuptivated

559
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 5: and helped my kids develop their skill set, whether it's

560
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 5: through tennis, whether it's through baseball, et cetera.

561
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,919
Speaker 3: So I do understand that point of it.

562
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 5: I do think that it is a little bit cloudy

563
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 5: in a sense where like kind of going in front

564
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 5: of Giannis after you lose the game, Matt, you don't

565
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 5: lost the game.

566
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 3: We done cried in locker rooms and things like that.

567
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 5: Together, as men when we're trying to pursue like greatness

568
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 5: and things like that. So like when we lose, it's

569
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 5: a certain amount of emotions that come with it. And

570
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 5: I believe like sometimes like emotional intelligence, you know what

571
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,199
Speaker 5: I mean, and impost kind of like runs together, and

572
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 5: so like, you know, I just didn't think that that

573
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 5: was the timing was right for him to be able

574
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,199
Speaker 5: to do that to Giannis, to a player of that

575
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 5: caliber at that.

576
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 3: Moment, in that time, in that space.

577
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 5: I just remember like telling my pops, like when I

578
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 5: played for the Heat, Like Pops, like, don't don't walk

579
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 5: outside with the Cavasier at the end of the day.

580
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 5: I know they're serving it up in the family room

581
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 5: and all those different things, but like, dude, don't walk

582
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 5: out with the Covasier because like I still got a name,

583
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 5: a likeness, an image that I'm trying to project, and I.

584
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 3: Got a job to do. This is my job.

585
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 5: I'm not coming to your job, you know, or your business.

586
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,959
Speaker 5: And in partant like how I feel things should go.

587
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 5: And because the stakes are so high, I feel like,

588
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 5: you know, his father kind of missed the mark on

589
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 5: that he got kind of called up in the emotions

590
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 5: that doesn't take away like the journey, right and the

591
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 5: support and the love and the appreciation that he has.

592
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 5: But that could have turned into another malice at the palace,

593
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 5: especially Indiana being.

594
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 3: A part of that.

595
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 5: That could have been something that could have spiraled out

596
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 5: of control. And so I do think that, like you know, okay,

597
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 5: like you know, like holding Pops accountable, you know what

598
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 5: I mean, Tyree's taking his stance along the way at

599
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,479
Speaker 5: the end of the day, Like, dude, he's a MAX player.

600
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 5: I know he wears short shorts, you know what I mean.

601
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 5: I know a lot of the NBA players hate on

602
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 5: him and.

603
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 3: Things like that. I know the Kings got rid of him.

604
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 5: But man, Tyrese has go gold medal, you know what

605
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 5: I mean, He's an All Star. He's got the pacers rolling,

606
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 5: and so like, at the end of the day, man,

607
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 5: let's enjoy the journey because I'm telling you, man, that

608
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 5: shit ends Max, you and I will say all those

609
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 5: things at some point, it ends, right And so like

610
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 5: you know, while you're in it, you got to be

611
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 5: appreciative and respectful of the rhythm that comes along with

612
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 5: the game.

613
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: Katie, I think you before we move on, I think

614
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: he made a great point. I think both Halley and

615
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: Pops have a chip on the shoulder. I mean, he

616
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: was voted the most overrated player by his peers. That

617
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: shit hurts. I mean, you can have the news media

618
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: and me I'll be able to say shit about you

619
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: and talk trash and degree, but when your peers vote

620
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: you the most overrated player in the game, I know

621
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: he took that shit. Personally, he's playing with that kind

622
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 1: of swagger and ship, and I know if someone voted

623
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 1: my son that, I'll be ready to fight everybody too.

624
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: So I totally understand where Pops was coming from. Doesn't

625
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: make it right. It doesn't make what Pops still right.

626
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: But the one thing I do like is obviously I

627
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 1: love the way Giannis was able to articulate the situation

628
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: and have forgiveness in his speech, and both the dudes

629
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: said I love you to each other. So again, I'm

630
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: glad it didn't escalate to anything big and we definitely

631
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,959
Speaker 1: got to get Big John to come fuck with us

632
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 1: on Unplugged and hear his side. But moving on, fellas

633
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: a legend has stepped away from the coaching sidelines. Greg

634
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: Popovich is now the president of Basketball operations for the

635
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: Spurs after suffering a mild stroke in November. Pop is

636
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: seventy six years old, one of the greatest to ever

637
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: do it, twenty nine seasons, coaching twenty two straight consecutive

638
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: playoff appearances from nineteen ninety eight to twenty nineteen, won

639
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 1: five championships ninety nine, three, five, seven, fourteen, gold medalist

640
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: in the Olympics. A true legend is stepping aside and

641
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 1: stepping into the front office. But what was a little

642
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: more concerning to me was just his health. Pop doesn't

643
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: look good and it's scary and it's sad, and it

644
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 1: hurts my heart because he's gave his life to this

645
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: game and to see him have to have help getting

646
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: up and guys walking next to him to make sure

647
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: he gets to that shit just really hurt my heart. Obviously,

648
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: I'm happy for him and and you know, obviously him

649
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: going up to the front office, but just as a human,

650
00:31:58,600 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: it scares me a little bit.

651
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Speaker 2: Man.

652
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: We're getting to an age now where we're seeing our

653
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: mentors are getting older and slowing down and some are passing,

654
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: and it's obviously a blessing for us to be making

655
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: it this far and a blessing for them, but just

656
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 1: the reality of life is, you know, some of these

657
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: guys are getting a lot older. So Max, what did

658
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: you think about what you saw? And then also do

659
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: you have a favorite Pop story being out there in Texas?

660
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 4: Well, Pop was just you know, he's one of the

661
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 4: guys that bought me in there the San Antonio they

662
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 4: drafted me, well, they traded for me.

663
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 2: Denver drafted me. They traded for me the same night.

664
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Speaker 2: So a lot of love for Pop. Great man, great father,

665
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 2: that's great husband, great grandpap.

666
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 4: I mean, he's everything, man, But like you said, he's

667
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 4: gave his whole damn life to the game man. And

668
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 4: it did hurt me too to see him helping Pop

669
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 4: the way they was helping him move around the way

670
00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 4: it was moving around. But like I said, I always

671
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 4: tell my friends still today, I'll be like, Nigga, shit,

672
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 4: I got, I got thirty five good ones left, motherfucker.

673
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 4: So hey, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta live these.

674
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 2: Mother But I'm thirty five.

675
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 4: You know, I turned sixty on September the twelfth, So wow,

676
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 4: thirty five more good ones left. So shit, So I'd

677
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 4: be like, man, I mean, we all got our exit dates.

678
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 2: And you know, Pop's done a lot.

679
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 4: Of great things for a lot of good people, a

680
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 4: lot of people, and helped alone the way even me

681
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 4: still today, you know what I mean, Like I just said, man,

682
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 4: Pop is up. He's a basketball junkie and he can't

683
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 4: leave the game.

684
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 2: He's not not in a step away from the game.

685
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 4: But just him, just for him to be still up

686
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 4: there in the office being the president doing what his

687
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 4: just his knowledge and just his presence, just being up

688
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 4: there in that office. I mean, it's it and it

689
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 4: makes him. It means so much of the organization. Man,

690
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 4: because when you say Sam Antonio Spurs, you say, so

691
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 4: that's how you say.

692
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 2: That's how I feel about that, Yeah, KD Yeah.

693
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 5: Man, So like of the Mount Rushmore to me, you know,

694
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:18,919
Speaker 5: it's Red r Back, Phil Jackson, Pat Rowley, Greg Pofovich

695
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 5: in my opinion, right, I think that like Pop was

696
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 5: the most reachable of all of those guys. Though I

697
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 5: didn't know Red and his impact, you know what I mean,

698
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 5: because like I was, time stamped out of that. But

699
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 5: like for our generation, man like Pop impacted us. He

700
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 5: would always give us a word, or always have some sarcasm,

701
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 5: or always have something you know what I mean to

702
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 5: engage with.

703
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:46,720
Speaker 3: Right, and then you look at.

704
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:51,399
Speaker 5: His disciples, the eighth Verie Johnson's of the World. Right,

705
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 5: you look at you know, you look at this Sam

706
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,760
Speaker 5: Presty having great success. Like not only did he build

707
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 5: co in players, he built like infrastructure and so like

708
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 5: when you see Draymond reach out to him, when you

709
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 5: see you know, Murray you know, like leave Louisiana after

710
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 5: like having an injury and being there for Pop.

711
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 3: In that moment.

712
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 5: You see that, like he's been able to impact the

713
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 5: generations across the board. So I will miss his energy

714
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 5: on the sideline. I actually saw like one of the

715
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 5: teams in the playoffs like send a trap from.

716
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 3: The backside, which is a Pop.

717
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 5: Technique, you know what I mean, to be able to

718
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 5: stop Jokic, even though they didn't really stop them, but

719
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 5: maybe on that possession. But like he you know, not

720
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 5: only from a strategic standpoint, impacted the game from a

721
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 5: manhood standpoint. He impacted the game from a social standpoint.

722
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 5: He took stances that sometimes were unpopular from you know,

723
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 5: a feminism standpoint.

724
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 3: He hired women you know what I mean.

725
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 5: To be you know, assistant coaches, like he is a trailblazer.

726
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 5: He is something special to us. We love Pop, we

727
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 5: respect Pop, we appreciate him, and all we care about

728
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 5: is his health. And I'm glad he doesn't have to

729
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 5: go cold turkey and figure it out, right.

730
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 3: I'm glad that he gets too.

731
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 5: Though he stepped down, he elevated right, which was really like, he's.

732
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,879
Speaker 3: A natural leader at the end of the day.

733
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 5: So man, I'm just glad that Pop is still a

734
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 5: part of the San Antonio fabric. And I hope that

735
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:34,919
Speaker 5: other teams can take the same approach with people who

736
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 5: we you know, put on a pedalstal because a lot

737
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 5: of times they'll chew you up.

738
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 3: This system will chew you up and spit you.

739
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: Out, spit you out. Absolutely great coach, but even better person. Pop.

740
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 1: And I'll share a quick story before we get out

741
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,240
Speaker 1: of here. When I was playing with Memphis my second

742
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: to last season, we played them in the playoffs and

743
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,760
Speaker 1: our whole team was fucking hurt. And I remember after

744
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: the series, he came out to me. He said, Barnes,

745
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: he played your ass off, but you can't bring the

746
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:07,919
Speaker 1: spoon to a knife fight. Absolutely, I mean to your guys' point,

747
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 1: I mean, you know we're concerned now just about you know,

748
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 1: him enjoying the rest of his time. I mean, we

749
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: all have us us on this screen have more time

750
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: behind us than we do in front of us. Man,

751
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: so we definitely got to cherish our times, fellas. I

752
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: appreciate you guys joining me today. I will see you

753
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: guys back here soon.

754
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 2: Man.

755
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: You guys enjoy your day.

756
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 3: Matt Max. I'm gonna be like you when I grow up.

757
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: Matt.

758
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 3: Thank you, bro for all that you do.

759
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:36,240
Speaker 1: Bro. Now back for our favorite segment and our favorite resident.

760
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: He doesn't want to be called hater, so let's just

761
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 1: call him Eugene Davis today or fire presented by Roe

762
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: Sparks Fast acting long lasting ed treatment for Geno JJ

763
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 1: Reddick is under not necessary. A little bit of fire,

764
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 1: I think people have kind of it was taking offense

765
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 1: the wrong word for just kind of his energy towards

766
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,240
Speaker 1: the media a little bit in this tough first round

767
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 1: exit versus the Wolves. But he recently said, without naming names,

768
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,280
Speaker 1: that guys must get in champion chip shape.

769
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 6: I'll start with the off season and the work that's

770
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 6: required in an off season to be in championship shape.

771
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 6: And you know we have a ways to go as

772
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 6: a roster, and certainly there are individuals that were in

773
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 6: phenomenal shape. There's certainly other ones that could have been

774
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 6: in better shape. That's where my mind goes immediately, is

775
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 6: you know, we have to get.

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00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 1: In championship shape. Is that Sparks or fire? I don't

777
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: think it was a low key call out. I think

778
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 1: it was a high key call out. And I think

779
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: we all know who he was talking about. He was

780
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,240
Speaker 1: talking about Luca. But is this Sparks or fire? Geno?

781
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: This fire? Okay? Talk to me.

782
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 7: I mean he has a lot of nerve talking about

783
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 7: getting shape.

784
00:38:58,160 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 1: Though, to me, why is that?

785
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 7: Because he needs to get his coaching together too, Like

786
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 7: you know, he also has to do some work in

787
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 7: the off season.

788
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there's no quote having first year coach coaching

789
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 1: Lakers and don't get mad. I'm just saying fifty wins

790
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, I think they overachieved. They got the

791
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: third seed. I thought, personally, to be honest with you,

792
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: that after the trade Dallas removing injury was a better

793
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 1: roster for the playoffs and making a championship run than

794
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: the Lakers. I think the Lakers caught some chemistry fire

795
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 1: and did well got to the third seed. But I've

796
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 1: always thought that they have a poorly constructed roster and

797
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,959
Speaker 1: adding Luca was a long term play, not a short

798
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: term play. But I saw you lost your mind. I mean,

799
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: you wanted Lebron gone, you wanted you want to, you

800
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: wanted Bronny gone, you want jj gunn. You think Luca

801
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: needs to get out of here? How can you trade him? Like?

802
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 1: You were very emotional and I kind of let you

803
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: just be emotional, don't. I didn't want to. I didn't

804
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 1: want to trigger you because I was gonna fuck with you,

805
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,760
Speaker 1: But I just let you be emotional on social media.

806
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: What is your thoughts now that that the you know,

807
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: we're into the second round, the Lakers are in cancoon?

808
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: Lebron put out a tweet yesterday that he wasn't going

809
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 1: to be able to make the met Gala because of

810
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: his kneecap. Where are you at with your team and

811
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,280
Speaker 1: and and moving forward?

812
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Speaker 7: I mean it was depressing to watch, and I'm talking

813
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 7: for the whole city at LA. I mean, we're all

814
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 7: the depressed behind our team that's being around playing for

815
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 7: the rest of the playoffs. You know how boring it

816
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,720
Speaker 7: is to watch the playoffs without the Lakers. I believe

817
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 7: you post that. You know what you see Lebron. That's

818
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 7: the statue. That's his new statue right there. You posted that.

819
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: That's perfect. You saw it. I didn't see that, Lebron.

820
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 1: All these hating takes are from from Eugene Davis is

821
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: Twitter handle. I don't have nothing to do with this.

822
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 1: What else you have? N I told Nate said he

823
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: screenshot and all your bullshit just to bring it on here.

824
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: He did see how LA fans.

825
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 7: Lebron's not exempt from ridicule from when we take Al's bro. So,

826
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Speaker 7: I don't know.

827
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 1: Nobody is talking about. Nobody is well, how do you

828
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 1: feel moving forward? Obviously, depth in the front court is

829
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: is a must. JJ didn't play Jackson Hayes. I don't

830
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: know what Jackson did, but he just must have not

831
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: have did enough. He didn't get a chance to get

832
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: I wonder what we can do for you know, I

833
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 1: can't bad eyes Luca this off season. What does his

834
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:07,919
Speaker 1: team need?

835
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:09,800
Speaker 7: I mean, we need a big man, a sap. I

836
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 7: feel like that's the first point of business this summer

837
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,280
Speaker 7: is locking up a big man. We saw what happened

838
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 7: against Minnesota. We had Copert looking like Wilt Chamberlain, Like, seriously,

839
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 7: I've never seen him look like that before. And of

840
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 7: course it's against us, yes, in the closeout game, of course,

841
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 7: for our season. But I mean, I'm hearing all kinds

842
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 7: of things Rumlins Giannis, which Nates tells me is a

843
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 7: dream I shouldn't even dream about.

844
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: I saw no I saw a list today, and it

845
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 1: would they would have to make some shit work. But

846
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: he has four big city destinations that that that intrigue him,

847
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 1: and a Los Angeles. They didn't say what LA team,

848
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: but they said Los Angeles was on there, so I

849
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: don't think that's too far. Fett.

850
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, And then I heard Jared Jackson from Memphis.

851
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 7: I'm down with that too. Anything to get somebody.

852
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 1: Jared Jackson, What did I say? Yeah?

853
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 7: Whatever, Bro, you know what I'm talking about. But we

854
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 7: need a a big to come in and set the

855
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 7: tone for next season, especially moving forward. If we're going

856
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 7: to be resigning Luca a long time.

857
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 1: Well you're definitely going to do that. I just feel Luca.

858
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: I'm sure everyone's giving him advice Center right now. It

859
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: is going through one ear and out the other. In

860
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: shape is going to be a priority, I think for him.

861
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: I think his diet is going to be a priority

862
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 1: for him, just to slim down because he is bigger

863
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: out there. And you can hide a little bit in

864
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: Dallas with kind of some of the shit you were doing,

865
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Speaker 1: but you can't hide in LA with some of the

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Speaker 1: shit you're doing. The percentage of him getting blown by

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Speaker 1: is just unacceptable. He's going to need to get with

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Speaker 1: the apply metrics coach to get his feet faster and

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Speaker 1: his agility, and most importantly is shape because obviously he's

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Speaker 1: asked to carry a huge load offensively, and that is

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Speaker 1: I'm sure I've never had to carry that title load,

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Speaker 1: but I'm sure that's draining. But he also has to

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Speaker 1: be present on defense. And I think Steph Curry went

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Speaker 1: through some of this earlier in his career, where he

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Speaker 1: was someone that team's targeted and it wasn't that Steph

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Speaker 1: became a great defender overnight. Steph just started putting in

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Speaker 1: great effort on the defensive end, and that's all it takes.

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Speaker 1: You don't have Luca doesn't have to be a great defender.

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Speaker 1: Luca just has to give fucking effort on the defensive end,

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Speaker 1: and you need a great team defense behind him. But again,

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Speaker 1: I'm still someone that believes his offense outraised his bad defense.

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Speaker 1: I still think this was a good move. I think

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Speaker 1: this was a move for the future. So again, I

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Speaker 1: feel like they overachieved this year and got hot and

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Speaker 1: you know, at the end of the at the end

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Speaker 1: of the day, the better team won in Minnesota. Shout

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Speaker 1: out Julius Randall. He played with the chip on his

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Speaker 1: shoulder the whole series. And if you don't want to

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Speaker 1: be the face of the league, stop playing some motherfucking good, bro,

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Speaker 1: because you are going to be the face of the league.

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Speaker 1: You're a bad motherfucker and just deal with it. Gobert

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Speaker 1: played great, and you know Grobert takes a lot of criticisms,

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Speaker 1: so I definitely want to make sure we give him

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Speaker 1: some love for his twenty twenty game, the way he

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Speaker 1: was able to affect the game and at the end

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Speaker 1: of the day send the Lakers home. So how long

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Speaker 1: are you going to be saying you're wearing black? Like

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Speaker 1: the series over? I know that the series been over almost, you.

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Speaker 7: Know, almost are going to watch any more basketball. He

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Speaker 7: almost gave up, But now I funk with the Knicks

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Speaker 7: because I need them to be Boston.

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Speaker 1: They can't get Boston.

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Speaker 7: They get nineteen, Bro.

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Speaker 1: Because they're one ahead right now, right eighteen seventeen.

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Speaker 3: Let's go.

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Speaker 7: Let's go Knicks.

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Speaker 1: So that's it, that's your whole thing is for the

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Speaker 1: nixt Absolutely, absolutely well, Geno, thank you for spending this

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Speaker 1: season with us, show showing us how volatile Laker fans

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Speaker 1: are in LA. At least you got the Dodgers. I

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Speaker 1: hear you. Absolutely, we need to start getting some games lons.

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Speaker 1: The homie now we need to start getting some more Dodgers.

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Speaker 7: Make the call, he tells you every time he sees.

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Speaker 1: You, Bro, we got to get out there line we

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Speaker 1: come into some Dodger games, man, since Geno is depressed

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Speaker 1: about his Lakers. Yes, well, Gino, great season for you guys,

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Speaker 1: third seed in the West, first round exit, fifty wins

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Speaker 1: for JJ. I think the future is Bron made some demand,

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Speaker 1: some some ship is going to happen. You know, Rob

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Speaker 1: just signed that extension, so Rob is on the hot

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Speaker 1: seat again.

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Speaker 7: Do you think Lebron should take a pay cut to

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Speaker 7: get some more players.

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Speaker 1: I'm never gonna tell a man to take his you know,

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Speaker 1: do what we do anything with his money? But if

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Speaker 1: you want more guys to be able to come to

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Speaker 1: the team, some guys are gonna have to make sacrifices.

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure, especially if anything is true about getting

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Speaker 1: close to getting you honest, I'm sure some restructuring will

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Speaker 1: have to be done. So we'll have to see how

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Speaker 1: much these guys want it. You know, the Lakers are

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Speaker 1: never down for too long, so at least you can

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Speaker 1: hang your hat on net. It's a nice hat. By

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Speaker 1: the way, I appreciate that. Good season, bro. I'll give

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Speaker 1: you a hug off camera. Team up with DraftKings Pick

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Speaker 1: six to give you guys some picks for these playoff

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Speaker 1: matchups Wednesday Night Nicks versus the Celtics. I feel like

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Speaker 1: Jalen Brunson will have more points than the Draft Kings

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Speaker 1: Pick six has him at. And I feel like Jason

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Speaker 1: Tatum will make more threes than the Draft Kings Pick

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Speaker 1: six has him at. That's a rat for this week

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Speaker 1: on Unplugged. You can catch us on All the Smoke

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Speaker 1: Productions YouTube and the DraftKings Network. We'll see you guys

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Speaker 1: next week

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