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Speaker 1: Divisional round of the playoffs coming up, coaching moves everywhere,

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Speaker 1: Harbob about the sign with the Giants. Chris Sims is

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Speaker 1: with us from NBC PFT with Mike Florio every day

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Speaker 1: of Peacock on the Unbuttoned podcast Football Fight in America.

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Speaker 2: All that stuff going on, But we start with Verizon.

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Speaker 1: Chris Sims, your reaction when you saw an SOS and

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Speaker 1: an airplane on your phone yesterday?

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Speaker 3: No, it was like, I mean, it was a freaking

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Speaker 3: annoying day. There's a lot of days. I don't like

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Speaker 3: the phone, right, I hate the phone. I think it's

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Speaker 3: one of the most annoying inventions in the history of mankind.

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Speaker 3: It's bringing down mankind, all right. Mankind is like this.

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Speaker 3: They don't even look up anymore. It just walks around

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Speaker 3: like this, or they drive like this, and they just

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Speaker 3: drive and you go, hey, you just ran over a mailbox.

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Speaker 3: You just killed somebody. Well, I was texting. Sorry, it's

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Speaker 3: more important. So I'm not in favor of the phone.

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Speaker 3: I fucking hate it, actually, But like, yeah, I had

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Speaker 3: work to do yesterday. I had interviews I was trying

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Speaker 3: to do and I couldn't do anything. And then got

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Speaker 3: into a part where you needed navigation and you're like,

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Speaker 3: what the I can't And so I didn't know what

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Speaker 4: On for a while there.

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Speaker 3: All I want to do is I want to really

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Speaker 3: make sure at the end of the month that my

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Speaker 3: Verizon bill is one thirty first taken off, right, there's

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Speaker 3: got to be it should be a lesser charge.

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Speaker 4: You guys fucked up a day and gave me no fucking.

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Speaker 3: Service, right and cut off phone calls because did you guys.

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Speaker 4: Have a too where it worked for a little while and.

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Speaker 3: Then went back off, Rightah, yeah, so that was crazy too.

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Speaker 3: I'd get on the phone and be like hey, and

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Speaker 3: I was doing some interviews, start the interview, and then

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Speaker 4: So yeah, that was that was annoying.

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Speaker 1: I don't have you pouring over the Verizon bill when

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Speaker 1: it comes in to make sure they discounted you.

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Speaker 2: You have someone to do that for you.

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Speaker 3: I'm assuming, right, Well, yeah, it's called my wife, all right,

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Speaker 3: that's what she's here for, all right. But either way,

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Speaker 3: I think my phone is the whatever or the household

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Speaker 3: lead phone, right or the all so it's your name

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Speaker 3: on the I usually get some of the texts that

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Speaker 3: goes thank you for paying the bill, right, and so

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Speaker 3: this week they might get a response when I get

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Speaker 3: that thank you for paying the bill.

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Speaker 4: Let me make sure that's.

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Speaker 3: Right, because we might have to call you up and

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Speaker 3: tell you, hey, you're fucking ripping us off.

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Speaker 1: Mikey A has a conspiracy theory. I'll let him share

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Speaker 1: it with you. Go ahead, mikey A.

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Speaker 5: I believe that the Giants caused the Verizon outage. I

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Speaker 5: think they knew John Harbaugh had Verizon and they wanted

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Speaker 5: to make sure when he was in the building nobody

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Speaker 5: else could contact it. Hey, listen, I guess the Titans

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Speaker 5: aren't interested in you. They're not even calling.

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Speaker 3: If that is it, man, I love it. I'm all

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Speaker 3: in on it. I love it. It's giants thinking next level.

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Speaker 3: I like all that. That's why we buried Jimmy Hoff

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Speaker 3: into the twenty yard line.

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Speaker 4: We got, we got all the things.

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Speaker 3: We work it all together here, Okay, up in New York,

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Speaker 3: you know how it goes. But no, I am super

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Speaker 3: pumped just speaking of that that John Harbaugh is in

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Speaker 3: the next head coach of the New Yet Giants, Like,

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Speaker 3: I can't tell you, I'm ecstatic. I haven't felt like

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Speaker 3: He's kind of got that same tough, stoic demeanor like

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Speaker 4: So I love that aspect about it. We needed a.

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Speaker 3: Coach that had been there, done that, no first time.

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Speaker 3: We hope it could work right, so he'll get us

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Speaker 4: I think there's that aspect.

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Speaker 3: And then, as I said to like Mike Florio today,

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Speaker 3: I think he sees the game in a giant type

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Speaker 4: And what I mean by that is like my dad's teams.

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Speaker 3: In the eighties the early nineties, right, Jim Fossil and

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Speaker 3: always famous for being like when they would come on

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Speaker 3: size of the New York Giants. Oh my gosh, Like

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Speaker 3: So they've always had that. And Harbaugh comes from a

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Speaker 3: with a grin in my face, they pillaged the biggest,

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Speaker 3: of knew was gonna I mean, I knew Harbaugh was

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Speaker 3: a goough Inklings. And the thing I'm most excited about

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Speaker 3: is he's bringing Todd Munkin. I love Todd Munkin as

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Speaker 3: He can be physical and creative in the run game.

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Speaker 3: He knows how to move the quarterback and use him

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Speaker 3: So good day to be a Giant fan right now, Chris.

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Speaker 1: Just because we have spoken so much over the land

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Speaker 1: few years, my guess is and spoken about John Harbam.

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Speaker 1: My guess is one of the things you love most

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it, you know, you think about Baltimore, they've

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Speaker 3: not been afraid to make changes as he has to. Hey,

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Speaker 3: we got a guy, a quarterback in Lamar that's different

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Speaker 3: then it's okay, got stale, It's time to make a move, right.

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Speaker 3: mean it's been Wink Martindale and Mike McDonald and people

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Speaker 3: I mean people talk about it sometimes like it's just like, hey,

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Speaker 3: guys know, the AFC has been damn good the last

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Speaker 3: And that's where I give them a little leeway here

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Speaker 1: This whole thing was this unanimous inside the Simms family household.

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Speaker 1: Everyone has this hired Like I imagine Yale is going

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Speaker 3: Well, we're on a group text with a few friends,

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Speaker 4: I knew he was excited. I mean, that's this is

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Speaker 3: The hardballs are very much in the Sims school of

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Speaker 2: Yea, right.

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Speaker 3: It feels like exactly it's you know Belichick that way too,

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Speaker 3: do with times too. So uh, the Giants are still

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Speaker 3: a top notch organization. And when you couple that together

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Speaker 3: saying they'll go to the Super super Bowl, but could

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Speaker 3: they be one of those teams that we go, Wow,

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Speaker 3: the Giants win Week seventeen and eighteen, they can go

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Speaker 3: shocking revelation at all. Plus, they have the fifth pick right, exactly.

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Speaker 4: Right, so you think they'd be able to improve on that.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna spend a little money, They're gonna bring a

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Speaker 3: little bit of what Harbaugh and envisions is a football

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Speaker 3: team and free agency, right, So all of that plus

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Speaker 3: the bump of energy he's going to bring to the

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Speaker 1: Taylor texted it, texted this to me earlier and I

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Speaker 1: didn't bring it up, and I regret not bringing it up.

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Speaker 1: But you can make an argument today that the Giants

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Speaker 1: have the best quarterback coach combination in the NFC East.

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Speaker 2: Is that fair?

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Speaker 4: Oh? That's it. I haven't thought about it, Taylor.

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Speaker 3: I mean Taylor looking like he again yet another day

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Speaker 3: but getting credit for that take contributed a good text

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Speaker 4: That's a good one. You know.

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Speaker 3: It's still I know, you know, and we all know

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Speaker 3: I got my issues with Hurts and and everything he

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Speaker 3: does there, but they still have done some damn good stuff.

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Speaker 4: Yes, as we know, so's you.

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Speaker 2: Would take Carball over Sirianni though I know you would.

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Speaker 3: Well it's a you know, yeah, it's you know, I

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Speaker 3: respect Sirianni a lot.

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Speaker 4: I do.

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Speaker 3: I think Sirianni is in an incredibly tough spot, and

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Speaker 3: I do think he's a damn good football coach. Like

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Speaker 3: I joked with you last week, they didn't hire Sirianni

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Speaker 3: because he's like, hey, I have five plays I want

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Speaker 3: to be the head coach. I got five of them.

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Speaker 3: I mean, something's happened. Come on, everybody connect the dots.

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Speaker 3: As you know, everybody there in Philadelphia is talking about

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Speaker 4: So it's a real thing. But you know that. Of course,

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Speaker 2: Say no, no, Chris hold On.

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Speaker 1: The coaching carousel is going on, it's divisional rounds of

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Speaker 3: Yeah it is, I mean, yeah, your bingo card like

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Speaker 3: So they're patient that way or whatever else, what other

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Speaker 4: He is a damn good coach. He does a lot.

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Speaker 3: They play physical, and we see their offense is capable of.

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Speaker 1: If he was fired and John Harbaugh was let go

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Speaker 4: The offense would be good, but you know the hard part.

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Speaker 4: So I could see him.

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Speaker 3: It definitely would have been definitely and you know, and

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Speaker 3: we'll see the dynamics here of Joe Shane, right and

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Speaker 4: He might have that.

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Speaker 3: In fact, I'd be shocked if he doesn't. But that

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Speaker 3: doesn't change anything. And Joe Shane, even if he did,

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Speaker 4: Either way, you got a guy here that can coach,

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Speaker 3: One's gonna really remember if you win football games, who

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Speaker 4: No one's gonna give a shit. No one cares because anybody.

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Speaker 3: Going, Oh Andy Reid's got final say over Brett Veach.

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Speaker 4: That's the problem.

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Speaker 3: Like no Kyle Shanahan has final say over John No,

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Speaker 4: And that's the potential. I hope we can get to

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Speaker 4: You're right, it's.

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Speaker 3: let's work together, and sure you can make the final call.

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Speaker 3: But here's the two or three guys we all like, Now,

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Speaker 3: I mean Joe Shane had that bad first draft and

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Speaker 3: Harball looks at it and he's going, wait, Malik Neighbors

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Speaker 4: So I think he looks at all that.

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 3: It was not very good, right, I mean, come on,

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Speaker 3: That just speaks to how awesome that Texans defense is.

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Speaker 1: He's playing a defense that Mark Schlayrit Stink said when

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Speaker 2: Well, that's how fucking good they are.

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Speaker 4: They're amazing.

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Speaker 1: Since does it feel to say something fourteen weeks before

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Speaker 3: The game's gonna be tough and close, it doesn't matter,

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, we're gonna have this rule in this rule

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Speaker 3: England twenty to seventeen on the road.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow. Teler asked you about Drake May.

438
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Speaker 1: I was more focused as I was watching that game

439
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Speaker 1: unfold on Justin Herbert. I see the physical talents. I

440
00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:24,720
Speaker 1: know how gifted he is. I know how great the

441
00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,359
Speaker 1: guy could be. And every year seems like this is

442
00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,800
Speaker 1: going to be the year, and then it's not. He

443
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Speaker 1: has to be better in the playoffs, Chris, he just

444
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Speaker 1: has to.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't deny that. And then they got to

446
00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:39,239
Speaker 3: do better on helping him. I mean, come on that

447
00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,080
Speaker 3: you talk about getting your ass whoop, right, I mean,

448
00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,240
Speaker 3: holy crap, I don't care that was a game where

449
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Speaker 3: you go I don't care whose quarterback you can bring

450
00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:49,879
Speaker 3: John Elway in his prime. You know, Mahomes Rogers in

451
00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:53,120
Speaker 3: their prime. It doesn't matter. That felt like a game

452
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Speaker 3: like I was watching Daniel Jones with the New York

453
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Speaker 3: Giants three years ago, where I was like, set hut

454
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Speaker 3: duck duck whoa, holy cow, whoa he he just got

455
00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,760
Speaker 3: the ball off before he was murdered. I mean it

456
00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,200
Speaker 3: was amazing that way. I feel bad for the Chargers

457
00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,560
Speaker 3: because their team was built around their offensive line, and

458
00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,639
Speaker 3: of course that was beat the shit, so that was

459
00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,080
Speaker 3: the first thing that hurt them. I do think they

460
00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:19,160
Speaker 3: need another scary weapon on both sides of the ball. Right,

461
00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,040
Speaker 3: there's no front seven guy with the Chargers on defense

462
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Speaker 3: that you go ooh, we got a game plan around him.

463
00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,120
Speaker 3: And on the offensive side of the ball, there's really

464
00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:29,119
Speaker 3: no receiver or anybody you go ooh, watch out. So

465
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Speaker 3: I do think they need a little bit more of

466
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Speaker 3: that and the other thing I'll do. And I think

467
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Speaker 3: this is why you saw this is when you watch

468
00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,360
Speaker 3: their offense, you don't go wow, right, And I think

469
00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,760
Speaker 3: that's why Greg Roman was fired. Yeah, there was some

470
00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,480
Speaker 3: good run game ideas and all that, but the pass game,

471
00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,119
Speaker 3: you know, is not the most creative and watching that

472
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Speaker 3: game back against the Patriots too.

473
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Speaker 4: Man, some of the route patterns and what they did.

474
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Speaker 3: I want to be like, you thought this was going

475
00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,960
Speaker 3: to get open against the Mike Rabel defense, Like it's

476
00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,359
Speaker 3: third and nine and we're all going to go to

477
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Speaker 3: the ten yard mark and just do a crow route,

478
00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,360
Speaker 3: like you thought that was gonna get it done against

479
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Speaker 3: Mike fucking Rabel. And so that's where, you know, I

480
00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,000
Speaker 3: don't know if they always gave him the right opportunities

481
00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,280
Speaker 3: to really show what he can Doce to Gods, I'm

482
00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,560
Speaker 3: still a believer. I still am a believer, but they

483
00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:14,680
Speaker 3: got to help him out a little bit.

484
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Speaker 4: Speaking of Aaron Rodgers, has he done he should be?

485
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Speaker 4: I think he is.

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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, you know, you guys know I love

487
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Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers and Aaron Rodgers eyes. I always say in

488
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Speaker 3: his prime, I'm not sure he wasn't the greatest quarterback

489
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Speaker 3: I've ever seen in my life. Right, Any quarterback that

490
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Speaker 3: I've ever talked to, Josh Allen Mahomes, Joe Burrow, they'll

491
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Speaker 3: all tell you that Aaron Rodgers was the idol growing

492
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Speaker 3: up watching him as well. Right when I had my

493
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Speaker 3: Bleacher Report podcast, Simson Lefko back in the day, I

494
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,880
Speaker 3: used to ask everybody, right, if I had fifty defensive

495
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,200
Speaker 3: players over a three year period, come on the podcast.

496
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Speaker 3: I'd go, who's the best player you played against? But

497
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 3: I couldn't even get the answer out of my question,

498
00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 3: and people got Aaron Rodgerson.

499
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Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers is unreal. It's on.

500
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Speaker 3: It was always like, holy crap. We had one player whoever,

501
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 3: said Tom Brady, it was Vince Wolfork, so you could

502
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:09,720
Speaker 3: there was a little bias there, right, so, but that's

503
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Speaker 3: how amazing he was.

504
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Speaker 4: But he's not that anymore. I mean, he's forty two.

505
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Speaker 3: This is why I didn't think they had any chance

506
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 3: against Houston the other night, was because it's too hard

507
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,000
Speaker 3: to play dink and dunk football and think you're gonna win.

508
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 3: This is it's a new age. Completion percentage is not

509
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,600
Speaker 3: Nobody gives a shit anymore. All the guys you see

510
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,920
Speaker 3: winning the playoffs are making plays. Nobody went back after

511
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:35,040
Speaker 3: the Bears game and went, you know, Caleb Williams completion

512
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 3: percentage wasn't very good. I want to go, na, the

513
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 3: completions he made absolutely changed the fucking game.

514
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Speaker 4: That's what matters. That's what matters, and yeah.

515
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Speaker 3: I just think his unwillingness to stand in the pocket

516
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Speaker 3: and make throws down the field and do all that.

517
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Speaker 4: I'd like to see him retire. It's been a great career.

518
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 4: At the time has come.

519
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Speaker 1: Did I see on your socials that you said that

520
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,399
Speaker 1: was the greatest the fourth and eighth pass that Caleb

521
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Speaker 1: made was the greatest pass in playoff history.

522
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Speaker 4: It's one of them.

523
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Speaker 3: It's one of them, right, I mean, yeah, well, yeah,

524
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 3: I mean he's but that right there in the moment.

525
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 3: It's fourth and three, and then we get a penalty,

526
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Speaker 3: and now it's fourth and eight, and it's oh no,

527
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,880
Speaker 3: we didn't block blitzing middle linebacker. And then he's got

528
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 3: to run to his left, run to his left, turn

529
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,360
Speaker 3: his body. Then he knows, oh no, he's gonna get

530
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 3: my ankles and trip me up. And he jumps in

531
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Speaker 3: the air and throws a thirty yard corner route or

532
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,159
Speaker 3: a crossing route, and where he had to throw a

533
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 3: dot because Cassine Kashawn Kayshawn Nixon, right, he's gonna undercut

534
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 3: it if he just throws it right into a done

535
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,160
Speaker 3: Day's chest. So he throws it up and over him.

536
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,880
Speaker 3: I mean, it's up there. That's all I'm saying, right.

537
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,200
Speaker 3: I mean, we've seen Aaron Rodgers on the sideline to

538
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 3: Jared Cook and the Cowboys game, you know, Montana Clark

539
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:52,879
Speaker 3: in the back of the end zone to win it

540
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 3: back in the day. Those type of throws. I'm just

541
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Speaker 3: saying it's in that category as far as one of

542
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Speaker 3: the biggest throws I've seen in playoff history.

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Speaker 1: It felt like you were asking us how to pronounce

544
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:02,199
Speaker 1: that name, and I don't know.

545
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Speaker 4: So, yeah, I think I can't pronounce kay Shaw. Don't

546
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,959
Speaker 4: ask me either. I'm the worst. I butcher English language

547
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:11,399
Speaker 4: more than anybody.

548
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Speaker 5: Since I want to go back to the Steelers for

549
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:17,880
Speaker 5: a second job security aside, if Rogers leaves and now

550
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:18,880
Speaker 5: Tomlin's going.

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Speaker 2: Is that a good job?

552
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 5: Like looking at that roster, looking at what they've got,

553
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 5: it's a weak quarterback class and you're picking in the twenties.

554
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Speaker 2: Anyway, I would say what makes it a good job

555
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 2: is their loyalty.

556
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Speaker 4: That's a sure, But I don't love it, Mike.

557
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the job is great because it's the

558
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 3: Steelers and they're a nationwide brand, right, and the loyalty

559
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 3: and it's an organization that we know it runs at

560
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 3: a top Knoch function, so that's positive. Coaches are gonna

561
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,680
Speaker 3: like that. But Mike, Yeah, I tend to be where

562
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,360
Speaker 3: you are in that convo. Like, I don't think it's

563
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 3: in the same category as the Giants or the Ravens, or,

564
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 3: like I said, the Titans or the Atlanta Falcons. I

565
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 3: would put all four of those over the Pittsburgh job.

566
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 3: I mean the Pittsburgh job. The quarterback situation. Like you mentioned, Okay,

567
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 3: we got DK Metcalf, we don't really have another receiver, right.

568
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, offensive line is good.

569
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 3: You get to the defensive side of the ball and

570
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,120
Speaker 3: you go, wait, I mean secondary is not very good.

571
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 3: Middle linebacker plays not been anything special. Cam Hayward, We're

572
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 3: down to what maybe one more year, right TJ. Watt,

573
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,679
Speaker 3: who's still really damn good, but on the down slope

574
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,199
Speaker 3: of his career. Yeah, there's a lot of holes to

575
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 3: be filled and a team that feels like it needs

576
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 3: to get younger. And I feel like that's probably part

577
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 3: of why Mike Tomlin walked away. Not only is he

578
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 3: probably exhausted of eighteen years and just needs a break

579
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Speaker 3: and whatever, but he's probably looking at it going, wait,

580
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 3: we made some moves this offseason. But we just got

581
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 3: too many. We got too many spots where we got

582
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 3: to put a band aid over. We got to actually

583
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,160
Speaker 3: kind of like rip things down a little bit, take

584
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 3: a step back to go two steps forward.

585
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Speaker 4: So yeah, I don't think it's up there, mike Ya.

586
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Speaker 4: I'm with you, Chris.

587
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Speaker 2: What would you do if you're Philadel what do you

588
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 2: do with AJ Brown?

589
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 4: Oh?

590
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 3: Trade him? He's got to be gone. I think that's

591
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 3: just over. I would be shocked if he's back, right,

592
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,880
Speaker 3: I mean this is I came on here and told

593
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Speaker 3: you I thought they should have traded him during the

594
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Speaker 3: trade deadline.

595
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Speaker 2: He did, right.

596
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 3: I was like, why, I mean you went four and

597
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 3: oh and you didn't throw him the ball to start

598
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,160
Speaker 3: the year the season, like so you know, get out

599
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,159
Speaker 3: in front of it. And I think they knew that

600
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 3: he was a little disgruntled. I feel bad for AJ

601
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 3: Brown in a lot of ways. First off, like people say, oh,

602
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 3: he had four drops last week. I'm gonna go May

603
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 3: had two. The other two will be like, oh my gosh,

604
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 3: I can't believe he caught that. So like we got

605
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Speaker 3: to people love the pile on and I think a J.

606
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Speaker 3: Brown and some of the stuff he said, you know,

607
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 3: to the media about the offense. Again, I think he

608
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 3: was speaking for the locker room a little bit, because,

609
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Speaker 3: as you've heard me say, I think the whole locker

610
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 3: room was like, wait, everybody's getting blamed except the guy

611
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 3: that needs to get blamed.

612
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Speaker 4: And I think A. J.

613
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Speaker 3: Brown tried to say that along was saying, We're not

614
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Speaker 3: going to win playoff games to get to the super

615
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Speaker 3: Bowl if we continue to play like this, and so yeah,

616
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Speaker 3: I think that that relationship's probably over because it's just

617
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,959
Speaker 3: put too much pressure on the situation in general.

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Speaker 4: I think it's well, yeah, I do.

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Speaker 1: Listen, I would take that job over the Tennessee head

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Speaker 1: coaching job.

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you, all right, Well I hear you.

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650
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651
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:59,400
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652
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653
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 3: but I do because again, the league knows all the

654
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 3: things that you've heard me say about Jalen Hurts.

655
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 4: They know, right, you're hearing it again.

656
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 3: Lashawn McCoy just said it this week. I heard another

657
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 3: Philly Beat writer, right, Lashawn McCoy. I saw him on

658
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 3: one of his Instagram videos and he was going. I

659
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 3: made some calls, I did some digging, and all I

660
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 3: kept hearing was Jalen Hurts doesn't want more offense, he

661
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 3: doesn't want new schemes, he doesn't want to do this,

662
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 3: he doesn't want to do that. When he does do

663
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 3: something in practice, he doesn't do it out on the

664
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 3: practice the game field.

665
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 4: So you know, again, those are real.

666
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 3: That's what I've been trying to tell everybody really for

667
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 3: about a year and a half. And it's a problem.

668
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 3: And that's not going to embolden anybody. Kellen Moore, right,

669
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 3: he got a head coaching job with there. They didn't

670
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 3: do shit on offense last year, right. I mean, this

671
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 3: is where it's crazy, and this is where I don't

672
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 3: think people realize the passing offense last year going to

673
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl was worse than this year, except you

674
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 3: just didn't have Saquon Barkley running for two thousand yards,

675
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 3: so there's more of a spotlight on it. Right, Last

676
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 3: year they were the worst passing offense to ever win

677
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 3: a Super Bowl, and Kellen Moore couldn't even run his

678
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 3: offense and got to a head job in New Orleans,

679
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 3: and that offense already does more than what he did

680
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,479
Speaker 3: in Philadelphia. So you tell me right there, right, And

681
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 3: that's where I'll be interested to see who goes there

682
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 3: and takes on this job. They have to have a

683
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 3: sit down conversation with Jalen Hurts at some point to go, hey, like,

684
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 3: we have the most talented offense in football, but even

685
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 3: with that, we can't win consistently running this limit of

686
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 3: a playbook.

687
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 4: We can't this with.

688
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 3: Something's got to change, And hey, Jalen, it's gonna help you.

689
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 3: You're gonna look better, We're all gonna look better.

690
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 4: Blah blah blah.

691
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 3: They got to do that at some point because it's

692
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 3: too hard to operate the way they're functioning.

693
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 6: SAMs. I look at the NFL media in two groups,

694
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 6: the Stu Goatsa's of the world, who say the only

695
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 6: thing that matters is the quarterback position, and then the

696
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 6: Chris simms Is of the world, who are like, Hey,

697
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 6: that other group, they're a bunch of idiots. It's a

698
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 6: lot more than the quarterback position.

699
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 2: But the Nuance group, Yes, if the Bills.

700
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 6: Keep on winning SIMS, that feels like a massive win

701
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 6: for the Stu Gottses of the world.

702
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I hear you that.

703
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 3: I mean, it is, it is and we understand, you know,

704
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 3: I understand how important a quarterback is. I just don't

705
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 3: like it. And I the Stugats's of the world aren't wrong,

706
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 3: I just don't like it. Sometimes when the quarterback gets

707
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 3: the blame and I'm gonna go, wait, but the rest

708
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 3: of the team is shit, like we really think he's

709
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 3: gonna be able to cover all this up just for

710
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 3: that right, or sometimes it goes overboard the other way.

711
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 3: The quarterback gets all this credit and I go, like,

712
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 3: if Jalen hurts in certain years, and I go, it's

713
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 3: an all star team, Like they can't even complete a

714
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 3: pass and we're going, hey, he's awesome.

715
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:52,719
Speaker 4: Look at their offense.

716
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 3: So it just there's no one between there, and that's

717
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,719
Speaker 3: where I just try to bring it back. I of

718
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 3: course understand importance of quarterback and all that.

719
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 4: The Bills. Here's the big thing the Bills won.

720
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 3: Their offensive line really gives Josh Allen a chance no

721
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 3: matter who they play against, because they can protect.

722
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 4: And they can at least keep you on its defending.

723
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 3: The running the football at the very least defensively, they've

724
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 3: been better than I've given them a credit for.

725
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 4: I think that's the big thing. They're The way they've.

726
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 3: Covered in the secondary, I think has been the part

727
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 3: that I didn't think they were capable of, and they

728
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 3: have proved me wrong in that department right there. So

729
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 3: with that, and then you play a Denver team where

730
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 3: we know is not awesome on offense. Right they're a

731
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 3: little bit of a roller coaster as well and not

732
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 3: a well oiled machine.

733
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I give them a chance.

734
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 3: And then you talk about playoff football in a game

735
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 3: like this, where you go it's gonna come down to

736
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 3: just a few plays, I'm gonna go with the guy

737
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 3: that I see make those few plays almost all.

738
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 4: The time, right all the time.

739
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 3: And the greatest player left in the playoffs is Number

740
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 3: seventeen for Buffalo. I'm taking the Bills twenty four to

741
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 3: twenty one on the road here. But I hear what

742
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 3: you're saying, Taylor. I do. But there's also another side

743
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 3: of the story where I'd go, hey, look at that

744
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 3: team in Houston. Their quarterback literally tried to throw the

745
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 3: game and lose it, and they still won because of

746
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 3: what the team. So it's just it's a good combo

747
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 3: and I'd like to try to remind people of it sometimes.

748
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: Sims on my team, do you know has the C

749
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: on his chest on your team? Yeah, the captain Taylor.

750
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: I mean, it's Taylor. He's the captain of my fucking team.

751
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: And with that being said, Trevor Lawrence, is he good?

752
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 4: Oh?

753
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 3: I know, man, right, all that work, all the good

754
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 3: stuff he did, and it kind of like the things

755
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 3: we were like, oh, I think he's wiped us away.

756
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 4: He's in the zone. It kind of bubbled up now.

757
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 3: I mean the first interception was really bad, right, That

758
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 3: was bad to start the game and give the Parables

759
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:50,479
Speaker 3: short field, right.

760
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 2: Yes.

761
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,719
Speaker 3: Equally as bad was him tripping over his feet on

762
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 3: the fourth down where they go, Yes, it's it's what

763
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 3: was it seven to three, and you're like, if they

764
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 3: score a touchdown right here and go up fourteen to three,

765
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 3: the Bills are gonna feel tremendous pressure and have to

766
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 3: play a game that they don't want to play where

767
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 3: they're gonna have to drop back all the time and

768
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 3: hope Josh Allen can just carry the team. And then

769
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 3: it's like Jacksonville can rush the back. But so that's

770
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 3: where they dropped the ball. Really, it was that early

771
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 3: part of the game where you went they were controlling

772
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 3: the game. They looked like they were the better team

773
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 3: in the field. They kind of let Bills get their

774
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,879
Speaker 3: equilibrium back, and then they let mister Bazuka Arms start

775
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 3: to get in a little rhythm and then he started

776
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,399
Speaker 3: throwing piss missiles all over the football field. And when

777
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 3: that starts to happen, watch out.

778
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: If you told Bazuka Arm he would be Bo Nicks

779
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: and Drake May away from the Super Bowl, he would

780
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 1: have taken it before the season.

781
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 4: Man, yeah, I hear that. Well, don't forget about the

782
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 4: Houston Texas too.

783
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 3: Don't count go and cancel them out right right.

784
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 2: Taylor said this earlier.

785
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: I feel like we're disrespecting the Broncos and no one.

786
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 2: Believes it all.

787
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 4: I know, you know I feel that way too a

788
00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 4: little bit.

789
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 3: I thought about that as I was writing down notes

790
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 3: and picking the game last night. I was like, damn,

791
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,919
Speaker 3: but with Denver, Hey, it's a match up league, right,

792
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 3: it's a matchup league. I think the first thing that

793
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 3: scares me a little bit is the inconsistencies on offense.

794
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 3: Like we've talked about, They've had a lot of games

795
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 3: where you go, wait, they didn't really play that all

796
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 3: that well, or they only played for two quarters. It's

797
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 3: very rare to see a number one seed really go

798
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 3: through a year and not really have one dominant win

799
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 3: other than at home against Dallas right as the only game.

800
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 3: So that's odd to go like, hey, they were the

801
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 3: best team in that league. They never really dominated anybody

802
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 3: all year. But they're the number one seed. So I

803
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 3: think that gives at least a guy like me cold

804
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 3: feet a little bit. And then the matchup itself, Like

805
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 3: I told you about the Bill's defense versus the Broncos offense,

806
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 3: the other side of that is, hey, I know the

807
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 3: Broncos defense is awesome, right, I don't think it's as

808
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 3: awesome as the Texans, but it's the next team down.

809
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 4: With the Seattle Seahawks.

810
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,720
Speaker 3: Where I go, Yeah, they got a good pass rush,

811
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 3: I know that, But Buffalo's strength is protecting the passer.

812
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 3: They're really good in that department right at times. Denver

813
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 3: to me, can play too aggressive. Where I go, you're

814
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 3: too good to have to take this chance or do this,

815
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 3: and within that right, I hope they don't over blitz.

816
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 4: We'll see.

817
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 3: Jacksonville, I thought sent too many five man pressures last

818
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 3: week because they were worried about Josh Allen scrambling and

819
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 3: buying time or just running and making a play. But

820
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,240
Speaker 3: what happened with that? Send extra guys on pressure? WHOA,

821
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,959
Speaker 3: there's big holes down the field and he found them.

822
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 3: So I feel like Buffalo's offense matches up with a

823
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 3: really good Denver defense too, So we'll see where that goes.

824
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 3: I think it's a nail bier, and I do think

825
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 3: the pressure is on Broncos being at home.

826
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 4: They're supposed to win.

827
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 3: They're the one seed, right and the Bills have played

828
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 3: a lot of playoff football, gonna be ready to go.

829
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 4: So that's where I'm just favoring them a little bit, all.

830
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 6: Right, Sims, I'm Looking at stats Matthew Stafford's last ten

831
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 6: games outdoors in the rain or snow, He's one to nine,

832
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 6: sixteen touchdowns, eleven interceptions. Current forecast for Sunday's game in

833
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 6: Chicago fifty five percent chance of snow twenty degrees. Whether

834
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 6: when you combine that with maybe injuring his hand against Carolina,

835
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 6: do the Bears have a chance to upset the Rams here?

836
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:07,479
Speaker 4: Yeah?

837
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 3: I do think so, right, you know, And I think, like,

838
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 3: if it's just cold and windy, I don't think anything's

839
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 3: gonna affect either one of these quarterbacks. I mean, these

840
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:20,720
Speaker 3: two right right, they got they got they got rifles

841
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 3: for arms. So I mean, I'm not worried about that.

842
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 3: If it gets sloppy, okay, but that that's where you

843
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 3: worry about it. Where if okay, now it's snow, now

844
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,760
Speaker 3: the ball is wet, now people are slipping.

845
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 4: We'll see with that.

846
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 3: You know, the Rams are they're not built to play

847
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 3: that kind of football, and that's probably what some of

848
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 3: the reasons lead to the record you're talking about whatever else.

849
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 3: But I still don't I don't look at them like

850
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 3: as a soft West Coast team.

851
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 4: I don't. We saw them last year in the.

852
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 3: Snow in Philadelphia, they were marching down to upset the Eagles.

853
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,479
Speaker 3: I mean it was like, oh my god, they're gonna

854
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 3: beat the Eagles. This is incredible. So when he can

855
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 3: handle that environment, and I think this is gonna be

856
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 3: the most fun game of the weekend, because, right, you know,

857
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 3: the Bears defense isn't very good. I'd be shocked if

858
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 3: the Rams don't have their way and move the ball

859
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 3: up and down the field. The Rams defense is not

860
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 3: real good either, Right, they have some playmakers, they can

861
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 3: create some chaos up front and do all that. But

862
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 3: do I think the Bears might be able to run

863
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 3: the ball on them a little bit?

864
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 4: Yeah? I do.

865
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 3: And the other thing that bothers me with the Rams

866
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 3: is they play a lot of zone, a lot of

867
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 3: zone defense.

868
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 4: And when you.

869
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 3: Play a good quarterback and a good offensive coordinator like

870
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 3: Ben Johnson, if you just overly play zone, zone, zone,

871
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 3: they're gonna find little ways to spread that zone out

872
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 3: and get a guy to sit in a soft spot

873
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 3: and do all that. So, you know, if Kleb Williams

874
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 3: is sharp in the drop back pass game like he

875
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 3: was in the second half last week, then I go, man,

876
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 3: we're gonna have some sort of shootout and it's gonna

877
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 3: be a lot of fun to watch.

878
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 2: Who do you like there? I took the Rams, Okay.

879
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 3: I think the Rams are a better football team in totality.

880
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 3: I worry about that Bears defense. Like I said, I

881
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 3: don't know if I think they can stop the Rams.

882
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 3: They're gonna have to play for we can turn the

883
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 3: ball over and do that. I took Rams thirty eight

884
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 3: twenty seven. I know that's an eleven point spread, but

885
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 3: I kind of looked at it like, you know, it's

886
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 3: thirty five twenty seven and they get a late field

887
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:11,720
Speaker 3: goal to kind of put the game away.

888
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: That rat pack of coaches, and you're friends with one

889
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 1: of them, Kyle Shanahan, who's done a tremendous job, but

890
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: Lafleur McVeigh, Shanahan. They don't like Ben Johnson, right, They

891
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:23,879
Speaker 1: just flatly don't like.

892
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,720
Speaker 4: Him, right, they don't like who Ben Johnson?

893
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's fucking annoying to that.

894
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:33,720
Speaker 3: I like, first off, how you added like a French accent, right, Barnell?

895
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 3: But he wins something. But listen, I've said I said this.

896
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:45,240
Speaker 3: I don't think I said this to you guys, Shanahan

897
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 3: and Ben Johnson are are very similar, very similar. Like

898
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,359
Speaker 3: I feel like Ben Johnson's southern version of Shanahan. It's

899
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 3: our attitude, offensive genius, like he really is.

900
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 4: They're like brothers from another mother.

901
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 3: Edge they have, like I don't know, maybe Kyle's not

902
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 3: quite as edgy as Ben Johnson to where he'd run

903
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 3: across the field like a psycho and do that, but

904
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 3: he's still a psycho nonetheless, you know, I don't And

905
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 3: I would think McVeigh has great respect for him too, right,

906
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 3: you know, Ben Johnson just he likes it. He likes

907
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 3: fuel in the fire, he likes He's like, you're a rival.

908
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 3: Fuck you, you're a rival. I don't care.

909
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 4: I'm old school. I want to hate you.

910
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 3: Because I feel better getting ready to play you when.

911
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 4: I hate you.

912
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 2: But he called them like Nepo babies at one point.

913
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 4: I yeah, He's said a lot of crazy stuff. It

914
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 4: is crazy.

915
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 3: I love it, right, And I don't even know if

916
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 3: there's a route to this other than that. Ben Johnson

917
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 3: just like they're their arrivals and I'm going to make

918
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 3: sure they stay our rivals, which is also insane. On

919
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 3: top of that, I don't think there's anything personal there.

920
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: Yes, speaking of your boy Kyle Shadann, who should be

921
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: coach of the Year. He's done such a great job.

922
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: And they might get Fred Warner back. But I think

923
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: the team. Tell me, if you agree with this, the

924
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: team and the player that has the most pressure on

925
00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 1: them this weekend.

926
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 2: Maybe it's Josh Allen, but I think it's Seattle.

927
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: I think Seattle and Sam Darnald because you have a

928
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 1: banged up Niners team coming in there, flying across the

929
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: country again to take on the Seahawks, and the Seahawks.

930
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 2: Are at home, and I think Seattle has a ton

931
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 2: of pressure on them.

932
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I hear you.

933
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 3: I mean I don't think you're wrong with that, you know,

934
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 3: and then then the Sam Donald factor, like you're talking about.

935
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 4: Yeah he one week eighteen.

936
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 3: We know that, but it was still one of those

937
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 3: games where you were like, wait, they won thirteen to three.

938
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 3: There was opportunities there. I mean, you heard the head

939
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 3: coach in Shanahan at halftime go, I'm just glad we're

940
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 3: dumped down by ten points because he knew they should

941
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 3: have been down by twenty, right, So they're going to

942
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 3: take advantage of those opportunities here in the playoffs to

943
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 3: put teams away to where they can't come back or

944
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:40,280
Speaker 3: make something happen.

945
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 4: I'm with you, I expect Seattle to win. Right.

946
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 3: Seattle is clearly the more physically talented football team Seattle.

947
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 3: If you asked me and rank the defenses in the

948
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,959
Speaker 3: playoffs right now, you know Houston's won, but I would

949
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 3: make Seattle two and Denver three. I mean, Seattle's got

950
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 3: it all. They really do speed, physicality. I did a

951
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 3: full breakdown of the Week eighteen matchup on my pod

952
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,479
Speaker 3: on Tuesday, or it might have been the Wednesday pod

953
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 3: of that game, and I mean I wrote in my

954
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 3: notes at one point, like the wow, the forty nine

955
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 3: ers got a first down, Like it feels like it's

956
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:23,280
Speaker 3: a victory for them.

957
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 4: To get a first down.

958
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 3: And then I wrote underneath it, I've never said that

959
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 3: about a Kyle Shanahan offense never. I mean it was

960
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 3: it was like whoa hoo man, Okay, they got a

961
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 3: first down. Let's let's see what they can do here.

962
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 3: I mean it was crazy. I mean it was a

963
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 3: total domination. And what's crazy about Seattle is they don't

964
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 3: have to be super creative. They just sprinkle in a

965
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 3: little third down magic every now and then or something

966
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 3: like that. But they're kind of play like, hey, we're

967
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 3: playing simple, basic coverages. We're so good, fuck you, you

968
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,439
Speaker 3: still can't beat us. And I love that attitude about them.

969
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 3: I think they're going like this. I think they're going

970
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,280
Speaker 3: like this. I'm gonna say, see wins this game twenty

971
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 3: seven to seventeen. I'm gonna say they control the forty

972
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 3: nine ers.

973
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: PFT with Mike Florio every day on Peacock the Unbuttoned

974
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 1: podcast as well Football Night in America. Final question here,

975
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 1: I think the most important hire this offseason is going

976
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 1: to be who Baltimore hires as its next head coach,

977
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 1: because that team is obviously close, and you have that

978
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: quarterback who's twenty nine years old, who's two years removed

979
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 1: from forty one touchdowns at four interceptions. Who would you

980
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: hire if you were running the Baltimore Ravens.

981
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a tough one here.

982
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I do love Jesse Minner, right,

983
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 3: and a lot of people do Chris. I mean, and

984
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 3: he's from the Baltimore Ravens defensive coaching tree of Mike

985
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 3: McDonald and Wink Martindale and all those guys. Right, he

986
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 3: was up in Michigan, right, those guys were two, right,

987
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 3: It's all it's all connected there. I do look at

988
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 3: Brian Flores and go, gosh, does he not feel like

989
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 3: he'd be the greatest Ravens coach ever? I mean, he

990
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 3: feels like he could be out there playing middle linebacker

991
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 3: for him, let alone coaching the team.

992
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 4: So be a good Steelers right right?

993
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 3: But those so those are two that I really look

994
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 3: at that I go would embody the the raven way.

995
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 3: But within that too, as we know, it's going to

996
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 3: be really important to get the right offensive guy in

997
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 3: there too, and and and so yeah, I think I

998
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 3: favor those guys because I don't know if there's an

999
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 3: offensive guy that I really love.

1000
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 4: Other than Mike McDaniel out there.

1001
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 3: And what I would say to Mike McDaniel is, just

1002
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 3: don't go take any head coaching job just to take

1003
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 3: a head coaching job, right, Don't do that because the

1004
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 3: next one you get is the last one you're going

1005
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 3: to get, right, and you know you got to make

1006
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 3: it work or go to a place and be an

1007
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 3: awesome offensive coordinator and get your stock up again to

1008
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 3: where now you're back into I can pick wherever I

1009
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 3: want to go in this coaching cycle, and you can

1010
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 3: really pick the best of those situations for yourself. But yeah,

1011
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 3: I tend to think those two defensive guys for Baltimore.

1012
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: So I meant to tell you that we miss Billy

1013
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 1: so much and voice and his opinions and his picks.

1014
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 1: That Taylor offered to pay Billy to do a cameo

1015
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: to make picks for a wild Court weekend and Billy

1016
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 1: rejected his money, and how about that?

1017
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 3: Wow, Yeah, that's unbelievable crazy. I mean, your money's not

1018
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:16,919
Speaker 3: good enough for him? Is that that is?

1019
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,439
Speaker 6: He texted me back, But he texted me back said

1020
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 6: I'm not doing for you.

1021
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 3: I mean, I haven't seen Billy in forever. I mean

1022
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 3: what I mean, I can't even believe the way he left.

1023
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:30,760
Speaker 4: I'm just I'm offended.

1024
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 2: I really he bailed on us. It's unbelievable.

1025
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 4: He's never text to say goodbye nothing.

1026
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 2: And somehow spin making my fault. It's unbelievable. It's crazy.

1027
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 4: And Sims.

1028
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 6: If you turn on Netflix and you put on the

1029
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 6: Ring or NFL show, right Billy right there?

1030
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 3: Does he miss that show like he used to miss

1031
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 3: this show to go to like, oh he likes them, Oh,

1032
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 3: he likes them. He doesn't go like, I'm gonna go

1033
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,760
Speaker 3: hang out in a parking garage and look at Marlin's

1034
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 3: players come out of a building or like what I

1035
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 3: mean some of the ship he did, right, I'm gonna

1036
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 3: go watch the worst baseball team ever do this today.

1037
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 3: I Oh, I flew up here to watch you know,

1038
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 3: an ex Marlin U up in Detroit, and I missed

1039
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 3: the show.

1040
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 2: Like what?

1041
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 3: Like he had some of the dumbest shit excuses I've

1042
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 3: ever seen.

1043
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 4: The miswork. It's unbelievable.

1044
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,919
Speaker 2: I also noticed he took your jersey down for that show.

1045
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 4: Oh did he really? I'm not on there anymore.

1046
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I don't see. I mean, keep it up

1047
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 2: there forever.

1048
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 3: Check to see if I got his number. I gotta

1049
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 3: I gotta got some words for him. I need to

1050
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 3: get him straight.

1051
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 2: Is the first one? Fuck? Of course, they're all fun.

1052
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 4: Might be the first two or three really.

1053
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 2: All right, but get out of here.

1054
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 1: Enjoy the football this weekend, because you know, depression sets

1055
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,760
Speaker 1: it right after this weekend because you're staring at pitchers

1056
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 1: of gadgers.

1057
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 3: We'll be on the field in Chicago, you know, for

1058
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 3: that game, so you'll see me there Sunday night, freezing

1059
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 3: my ass off.

1060
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 4: Right, it's gonna be I think.

1061
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 3: They're saying eighteen degrees gonna feel like five. I mean

1062
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 3: it's it's gonna look real football weather.

1063
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 4: So I'm excited about that.

1064
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 1: You have a Kalable throw it like it's seventy three

1065
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:05,280
Speaker 1: degrees and on a cloud.

1066
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 2: This guy and.

1067
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 3: Stafford, it's gonna be missiles all over the field. I'm

1068
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:17,720
Speaker 3: not worried about them.