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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome to another episode th HC Daily Quarantine Cast.

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Speaker 1: I hope you had a great weekend. Uh well, I'm

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Speaker 1: recording this one Sunday night. Phil is off having dinner

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Speaker 1: and what's going on with old th h C. Now,

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Speaker 1: I gotta start with emails because we've been getting so

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Speaker 1: many emails from you guys out there. Um, So if

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Speaker 1: I'm not getting back to your right away, apologies, but

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Speaker 1: the emails are flooding in. Everybody I know is in

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Speaker 1: front of computers, in front of screens and and not

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Speaker 1: doing their normal lives. So there's a lot of things,

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Speaker 1: um coming in. But um, well read you a few

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Speaker 1: things before we get to the show. We got a

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Speaker 1: great show today with Kevin Harlander from First Light, talking Turkeys,

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Speaker 1: talking Elk, talking the Heartbreak Bowl. We call it the

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Speaker 1: Heartbreak Bull because, uh, poor Kevin got broken up with

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Speaker 1: the got a dear John letter or dear Kevin letter

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Speaker 1: from a longtime girlfriend, and then he went out and

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Speaker 1: killed a giant bull. It's the ultimate, the ultimate, the ultimate.

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Speaker 1: I would say, revenge is is a good way to

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Speaker 1: put it. But before we get to that, we're gonna talk,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna do some emails and the hand turkey contest,

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Speaker 1: which is going swimming lee thanks to you, because I

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Speaker 1: just took my little boy up um to a local

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Speaker 1: it was full of people. It was a nice day

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Speaker 1: There was even a young boy, I would say by

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Speaker 1: coronavirus um. A lot of people just taking this time

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Speaker 1: My boy and I took a break. He actually discovered

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Speaker 1: my son discovered trail mix, which just means M and ms.

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Speaker 1: In his case, he just picked the M and m's

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Speaker 1: So hopefully you you all got to do that as well.

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Speaker 1: We want a lots of bike rides, lots of hikes,

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Speaker 1: time and just some of the indelible moments in this

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Speaker 1: So I'll remember that for a while. I'm sure you

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Speaker 1: all have those examples. But Ryan Monahan wrote in. He said, Hey, Ben,

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Speaker 1: I've been listening to your show for a long time.

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Speaker 1: I have never written in though I live in New

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Speaker 1: I absolutely need the mental escape. So from the bottom

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Speaker 1: of my heart. I'd like to thank you Phil t

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Speaker 1: Engineer and all of your guests for making a daily

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Speaker 1: because our stores are all but depleted of meat. Cheers, Bud,

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Speaker 1: I'll spray down my hand turkeys with lights all before

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Speaker 1: Thanks for Ryan, I appreciate it. Man. We're pulling for

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Speaker 1: you there, Mante, Stay safe, stay quarantine as much as

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Speaker 1: People have been asked, all you listeners have been asked

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Speaker 1: all done as a kid. Dude, the absolute best you can. Now,

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Speaker 1: some people have taken that up. A notch alec A

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Speaker 1: so I'll read you what he wrote. He said, what's up?

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Speaker 1: I hope this quarantine is treating you well and your

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Speaker 1: toilet paper rolls are many attached from my photos for

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Speaker 1: the hand turkey submission. I am a fly fisherman turned

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Speaker 1: this season will actually be my first time hunting turkeys.

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Speaker 1: Good luck, buddy, so this contest is really getting me

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Speaker 1: in the mood. My precious fly time materials used to

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Speaker 1: a close up. Uh proud th a c addict Alec. Alec,

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Speaker 1: my friend, holy sh it, you have created a once

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Speaker 1: has set a fantastic pace. Congrats Alec, and apologize to

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Speaker 1: now without further ado, you're gonna enjoy this one. My

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Speaker 1: man from First like Kevin Harlander, Hey, everybody, welcome to

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Speaker 1: episode six. I guess we'll call it episode six of

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Speaker 1: the Quarantine cast. Um. This is is Monday. We've made

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Speaker 1: it coming? Did there? You see the break up? I mean,

427
00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,480
Speaker 1: we're at that point, you know, and I think looking

428
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:41,960
Speaker 1: back in hindsight, right, everything's always um, we're on different pathways,

429
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,199
Speaker 1: you know, great human, I will say, Um, execution of

430
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 1: the split maybe not the most cordial, uh, but I

431
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 1: will say great human does a lot of good things

432
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,120
Speaker 1: in the world, and we're on good terms now. However,

433
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 1: the time obviously a little bit distraught. You might say, yeah,

434
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 1: you're so, you're feeling distraught. You've just read a Dear

435
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 1: John letter Kevin Ken What kind of paper was it

436
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:13,479
Speaker 1: that she was? It just like a scribble on a napkin.

437
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,919
Speaker 1: I'm interested in the presentation of this. I like that,

438
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,399
Speaker 1: you know, because without like divulge too much this this

439
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 1: woman was a writer, so uh not to not to

440
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 1: add insult to injury. But the no was really fucking good,

441
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 1: you know. I mean it was just like, well the

442
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 1: pros was nice, so good. Yeah, It's like it's like

443
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 1: a piece of notebook paper right in like a like

444
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,119
Speaker 1: a journal notebook to but torn out, you know, like

445
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 1: wrote it, thought out, ripped it out of there, not

446
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 1: even printed or anything, you know. Um So yeah, I'm

447
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,439
Speaker 1: reading this thing and thinking, wow, this is going to change. So,

448
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 1: you know, things are changing in my life. And uh,

449
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 1: I packed up the truck and headed back to eastern Oregon,

450
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,920
Speaker 1: which is kind of my roots in the state. Moved

451
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,120
Speaker 1: there when I was nineteen and we're living in Portland

452
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 1: at the time, and moved back to eastern Oregon. Um,

453
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 1: and this is in the springtime. Um, so we just

454
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 1: put in all my buddies that just put in for

455
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 1: tags right um in Oregon has a pretty good opportunity

456
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 1: to hunt over the counter help. But I put in

457
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 1: for a pretty sought after tag um which just kind

458
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,399
Speaker 1: of out a way and it's on a preference point system, UM,

459
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 1: and not a real good chance to draw this tag

460
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 1: at all. So I'm back in eastern Oregon and this

461
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 1: about a month goes by, having a pretty rough go

462
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 1: and I get an email from the Oregon Department Official

463
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:40,159
Speaker 1: Wildlife UM and it says you've been selected, uh for

464
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 1: the tag that I put in for. And I was like, oh,

465
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 1: I can't be right. And nearly enough points you know

466
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 1: this this caprets, I call them trying to figure it out,

467
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,440
Speaker 1: and sure enough I drew a really like one of

468
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,640
Speaker 1: the top three units in the state Oregon. UM. And

469
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,639
Speaker 1: for those that are in Oregon listening, they understand that

470
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 1: there's there's a few really quality units in eastern Oregon

471
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 1: UM and I was lucky enough to select one of

472
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 1: the one of those big three. UM. So at this

473
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 1: point I'm like, holy shit, here we go. This is it.

474
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 1: This is kind of the slap on the butt I needed,

475
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,959
Speaker 1: UM And uh, you know, at that point, I was like,

476
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 1: it's gonna be all right, you know, it's gonna be

477
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 1: all right. Let's get some carm I'll give you some

478
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 1: carma there and how long after well you would you

479
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 1: describe yourself as heartbroken. Oh yeah, for sure, crush. I

480
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 1: mean i'd be lying to you if I wasn't just

481
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 1: I think mostly just because of such a change in

482
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,640
Speaker 1: uh in the direction right. I mean we're talking like

483
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 1: you think you're going to the left, and all of

484
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 1: a sudden, here you are going right. I had that

485
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 1: happened to me. I'll tell that story in a later date,

486
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 1: but I will intrigue listeners. I had. I would say

487
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 1: it was absolutely country song because I did lose a

488
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,400
Speaker 1: dog in the situation and very similar to this where

489
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 1: I had like the ring picked out, I was about

490
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 1: to buy the ring and then never never went down.

491
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 1: But I'll tease everybody with that. But so your heartbroken

492
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 1: and you draw this tag. How long after you were

493
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 1: you were out and back the Oregon did the tag

494
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: show up? Did you think it was like it had?

495
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 1: It was like less than a month, so, which was

496
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 1: great because I was like living in a log cabin

497
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: that I was renting, kind of on the outside of town,

498
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,199
Speaker 1: kind of by myself, and you know, you get this email.

499
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 1: I'm like things are looking up. This picture. I could

500
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 1: picture you, like longer hair, maybe a scruffy beard, just

501
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:31,880
Speaker 1: just your hermit at this point, paint a picture. Yeah,

502
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: you got like a long hair coming out. That's fun.

503
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 1: Just allow me some license with the creative license with

504
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,400
Speaker 1: the story. All right. So now you got your tag

505
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 1: in your pocket and you're gonna go try to find

506
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 1: a big bull. Yeah. At this point when I drew

507
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 1: that tag, the coolest part was that I lived right

508
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,679
Speaker 1: near where this tag is sought after. So this is

509
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 1: I've been in eastern Oregon now on and offer about

510
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: five six years used me at this point. Um, so

511
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 1: I know this unit really well. I used to fight

512
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,199
Speaker 1: fire in that country. I know all these like secret honeyholes,

513
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: um and uh, it's it's one of those places that

514
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: you get to look at all the time, but not

515
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: a lot of people get to hunt, um, which is

516
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: you know, traumatic for for an elk cutting person that's

517
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: so stoked on it um from the get go. It's

518
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:22,959
Speaker 1: just like you look at all these giant bulls and

519
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 1: you see them all all summer, and finally I have

520
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 1: this opportunity to go into it um and actually hunt

521
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 1: these these canyons in this in this country. Um. So

522
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: one of the one of the greatest experiences in my

523
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 1: life was being able to take with the information that

524
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,439
Speaker 1: I had, um, you know, through all these summers of

525
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:41,679
Speaker 1: being in the woods and now I get to go

526
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 1: actually and do this thing. Um. And I decided that

527
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 1: I was going to hunt it by myself too. UM.

528
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 1: I thought that this was sort of like my moment

529
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: of well, I'm gonna I'm gonna get through this and

530
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this, and this is gonna be like

531
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 1: my healing, right this this the elk woods are gonna

532
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:01,679
Speaker 1: bring me back. Um. So all spring and summer I

533
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 1: spent you know, the better part of three or four

534
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: days a week after work, before work on the weekends,

535
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 1: just like putting up cameras, hiking into these pretty gnarly

536
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: drainages to just figure out this unit again after being

537
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: gone for a while. Um. And so I put all

538
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 1: my time and energy into that. And I think that's

539
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: the energy or the sort of the the emphasis of

540
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 1: this point of the story is that like it really

541
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 1: gave me some some purpose, you know, And I wasn't

542
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 1: really into my job that I was working at the time,

543
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 1: and um, it just it was this opportunity to sort

544
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 1: of put all my effort into something that really brought

545
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: me a lot of joy. Um. And that's Uh. It

546
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 1: was a good reminder of of getting back to what

547
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: makes you happy at those times for sure. Hell yeah, man,

548
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: And you're like the success of the hunt, Like, whatever

549
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: do you have is that? Is this? Uh? This here

550
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: LK hanging in your place right now? No, it's actually

551
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 1: at the office, which sadly enough is quarantined, so I

552
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: can't go just you know, touch the horns, look at it,

553
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: remember the time. But um, I'll send you a couple

554
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: of photos of it for the post. For sure. People

555
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: are gonna want to know how big of how big

556
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: of a bull we're talking to here. Yeah, it was

557
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 1: a good bull, man. And I think the the important

558
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: part of the story is like it did not come

559
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: easy at all. It wasn't like one of those units

560
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: where you walk out and you shoot the thing and

561
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: there it is and you're done. Um. It took a

562
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: lot of efforts. I hunted for seventeen days before I

563
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: killed this bull. Um. I learned a lot about you know,

564
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: how to call in small bulls, how to go and

565
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 1: hunt big bulls. And I was holding out too. And

566
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: that's that's the thing that I've never done before ever

567
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: in my hunting career. I've never been like, oh, I'm

568
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna kill a big bull. But I felt

569
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: like I didn't want this thing to end too early

570
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 1: because I was still working my way through a bunch

571
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: of stuff. Um. So on that seventeenth day, I was

572
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: by myself, and I was pretty deflated at this point

573
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: because I had passed a lot of little bulls, had

574
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 1: a lot of good opportunities at um, some some what

575
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 1: anyone would consider, you know, a great bull. But I

576
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 1: was going after six point right, that was my goal. Um.

577
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: And I remember pulling my truck out on this logging road.

578
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: There's a green gate closing it, um, and I just

579
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: walk out to the end of the road. It ridges

580
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: off in drops in this just gnarly canyon, and a

581
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: bugle just once, just a little location bugle, and from

582
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: behind me on the next ridge, kind of back towards

583
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 1: the north, Um, I hear just this like a just

584
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: like a hey, what's up, What's what's happening there? That

585
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 1: kind of bugle. Um. So I run back down the road,

586
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 1: get to my truck, and I look and across and

587
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: I see like this five to seven year old tamarack

588
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: just going. So I know this bull is raking this

589
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 1: pretty giant tree. Um. So I figured he's a pretty

590
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: good bull. So I bugle one more time, and that's

591
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: where he like he turned it on. He gave me

592
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: the rage bugle, which is every every all counters dream,

593
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: because at that point into it that just has like

594
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 1: a yeah, it's like, come on over here, let's let's

595
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: make this happen. And one of the things I learned

596
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 1: at this time is that the emphasis on uh, what

597
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: a hot cow does to a bull in a herd, right,

598
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: like what he's what his behavior will change to um

599
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: when he's got cows around that he's trying to trying

600
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: to breed. Um. So I knew just from that seventeen

601
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: days of being in the woods that this bugle was different, right,

602
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: that this this bull was was going to play um.

603
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: So I jumped in my truck, ran out with my

604
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: truck that to this next rage, parked, and then walked out.

605
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: And this bull is probably like two miles out this ridge,

606
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: but I could still hear him because he was so

607
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: high um, and it was just faint, right. So I

608
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: just keep working my way out there, and then when

609
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: I get to this spot where I know he's gonna

610
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: be allegedly from my visual and and uh and audio cues. Um,

611
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: I see just the the asses of like what I

612
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: consider to be a lot of cows. You know, we're

613
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: talking more than ten cows somewhere, Like, oh man, eyeballs,

614
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: this is gonna be tough, so get the wind, right.

615
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: I'm sneaking in, sneaking in, and and one of the

616
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: cows kind of does like the head swivel with the

617
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: ear flicked and like, oh man, that sucks. And I

618
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: think she caught wind of like my shoulder or something. Um.

619
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,479
Speaker 1: So the cows kind of dip off the end of

620
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: this ridge and they're not really running or scared, but

621
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: they know something's going on at this point, right, um,

622
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: which is a good lesson in persistence because I knew

623
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: that that bull was trying to crawl these cows. And

624
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: I see these cows kind of go off the edge

625
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: and they just keep going and going and going, like

626
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: oh man, and the edge we're talking like two thousand

627
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: ft down to the bottom of the draw. Um. And

628
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: I'm not going to tell you the name of the

629
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: draw because I think all my buddies back in each

630
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: and Oregon would murder me. Please don't. Yeah, We've had

631
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: to have a lot of long talks prior to recording

632
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: the daily podcast stories, and like, hey, look, let's let's

633
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: keep it tight boys. Remember yeah, yeah, the drainage has

634
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: a name that makes you kind of feel some some

635
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: mean feelings in your heart, you know, like it's named

636
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: because because it's nasty. Um. So, I worked my way

637
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: over the edge of this and I can I can

638
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: understand where the where the bulls, and where the bull

639
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: and the cows are heading to. So I do the

640
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: old cut him off at the past um, and I

641
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: was able to get in front of him on about

642
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: the top third and upper third into the slope, um,

643
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: and kind of got in between him and his cows

644
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: and just started this bugle fest, you know, like every

645
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: person like when when l Cunning is shown on TV.

646
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: This is what it looks like, right, Um. So we're

647
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 1: ripping bugles back and forth. And as far as I

648
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: can tell, there's no other bulls in the group, which

649
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: is good for me, um because he hasn't been really

650
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: challenged in his his suite September yet. Um. So I'm

651
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: at the spot behind just a little reproud tree, just

652
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: a little little pine tree, and all I see coming

653
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: up the hill at me um, And at this point

654
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: the winds basically at a cross wind, like to try

655
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: to get across wind instead of just a full frontel

656
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: in your face, because UM, seemingly you have a little

657
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 1: bit more agility in that situation. UM. And all I

658
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,720
Speaker 1: see coming up the hill are these just great big

659
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 1: brow tigns, just just trucking up the hill. And at

660
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: this point, you know, the arrow is knocked and things

661
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: are starting to happen, and I've sort of shut up,

662
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 1: and this bull um comes up to about he stops

663
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: at like eighteen yards, and from this point all I've

664
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 1: got is his antlers, right, because it's such a steep slope, UM,

665
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 1: So I gave him just a little cow call and

666
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: he charges like within it looks like it feels like,

667
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: you know, less than a second, he's at ten yards

668
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 1: and I'm at full draw on this bull is you know,

669
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: quartering to basically um and some full draw and as

670
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: he lets out what I consider like the most earth

671
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 1: shaking ground and bake breaking bugle I've ever heard in

672
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,399
Speaker 1: my life from that clothe just like what you talked

673
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: about is the deep guttural um. Just like every person's

674
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 1: dream right, you want to see this happen. And as

675
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 1: he's bugle and I release my area and at this

676
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: point pretty much blocked out. There's not a lot of

677
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: like conscious effort, it's just muscle memory at this point, um.

678
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:24,280
Speaker 1: And I watched the arrow barry you know, behind his shoulder,

679
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: but a little far back, um, and I think to myself, wow,

680
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 1: come all this way. You have the dream situation and

681
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: you you you messed up. You know, it's like too

682
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: far back. So I'm just like beside myself and the

683
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 1: bull arrow hits a mid bugle and it just kind

684
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 1: of cuts it off right, um, which is like one

685
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 1: of those like like empowering moments, are like that bull

686
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: is hurt now because he can't bugle, right, It's like

687
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: the one thing that bull can do really well is

688
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: announced his presence. Um. So I gave it a second

689
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: kind of stat back. The bull runs the seventy stops

690
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 1: and I see him do like the sway right, like

691
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 1: the yeah, and we're a good ship, right, we're a

692
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 1: good shape. So um. At this point, I just kind

693
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: of sit back let the things happen, and I see

694
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: him sort of I see the cow start to filter

695
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: across the next ridge, and they just keep going and

696
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: going and going, but no bull follows them, right, so UM,

697
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 1: kind of giving a little bit of time. UM waited

698
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: about an hour. And this point it's getting kind of dusky. UM.

699
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: And Uh. I walked down over the edge and I

700
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 1: looked down at the bottom of my glass, and I

701
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 1: can see him dead in the bottom in the draw. UM.

702
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 1: And like I said earlier, I was on the top

703
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: third of the slope and at the bottom of this

704
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: drainage is like a good two thousand feet down, but

705
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,879
Speaker 1: it's you know, and I don't necessarily like to die

706
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 1: in nice flat places usually. Um. They like to go

707
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: for water, and they like to go deep and nasty. Um.

708
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,439
Speaker 1: And at this point, I'm pretty ecstatic. So I hike

709
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: up back to the top and call my buddy, who

710
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 1: is at the time. And then this later is like

711
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: in his boxers, about to sit down to a shrimp

712
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 1: and scallops dinner, Like it's in front of him and

713
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 1: he's about to, like, you know, sit down and enjoy

714
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: a nice meal after he's already in September. Sounds like

715
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: he might be in quarantine. That's kind of what I

716
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 1: do every night, and sit down on my boxer's have

717
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 1: a nice shrimp. Yeah, he was just he was just

718
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: tagged out at the time and just loving life. Mid September.

719
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: Um and uh, I called him and he meets me

720
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: out there and uh we we end up getting this

721
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: bull out and uh in in two trips, um, which

722
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 1: was pretty fantastic because I don't think I would have

723
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: wanted to be gone back down to that bottom again,

724
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: but um, we got him out. And uh. At that point,

725
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,879
Speaker 1: I think I felt this sort of like, you know what,

726
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: everything's nab all right, Um, you can do this. This

727
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: is what makes you happy. You're gonna find somebody that

728
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 1: also enjoys us with you, and um, it's just one

729
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 1: of those moments that like hunting for me, it's such

730
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 1: a it's it's such a bigger experience than just than

731
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 1: just like watching something die or putting food on the table.

732
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: It's it's about what it can do for you as

733
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: a human. Um. And I think that at that point,

734
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 1: all the all that preparation, all that work, all that scouting,

735
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: and all the time in the woods. I didn't know

736
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: at the time, but I was just basically making myself

737
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 1: better as a human. I think that's what I try

738
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: to explain to people now, is is why I hunt.

739
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of uh, external reasons, like

740
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: I said, food, adventure, um, time with buddies, whatever it is.

741
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: But for me, it's pretty personal. Um. I think I

742
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: think there's a lot of things that have happened in

743
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,760
Speaker 1: my life that I can I was, I was turned

744
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: back to the archery stuff and and make it happen. Um.

745
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: And that's really what has changed my perspective on on

746
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: the sport for sure. It is just being able to

747
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: kind of come out of a otherwise pretty shittyation situation

748
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: on the end of this thing and and uh and

749
00:38:58,040 --> 00:38:59,919
Speaker 1: feel good about it, you know, and and and moved

750
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 1: through it. Yeah. That's so it's so layered, right when

751
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 1: we get in these situations where you know, I imagine

752
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 1: that killing that bull helped you kind of put a

753
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 1: period of the sentence, but had you not killed the bull,

754
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: you probably still you still feel just time outside still

755
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: has some transformation elements to it. I mean it has to.

756
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:25,919
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's extremely cathartic. And that's what that's why

757
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: hunting has those layers, right, that the layer of just

758
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: spending time outside, being in nature, disconnecting processing, solving problems,

759
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: exploring mysteries, going from hill to hill, you know, seeing

760
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: what's over the next thing, understanding, understanding hard work and

761
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: long days and uh that way. You know, it's it's uh,

762
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 1: there's a lot of translation there for sure. And then

763
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 1: by the end of it, you can you know, you

764
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: got that bull hanging in the first light office. You

765
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: can look at that whenever you need to and be like, yeah,

766
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: I did that. I did that again. It's a lot

767
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: of odds, not only the hunting, but in what what

768
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 1: the hell is going on in your life? So yeah,

769
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 1: well it hell done. Man. Um, we call that, you know,

770
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: we have like the fire bowl. Everybody has like a

771
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: this is the heartbreak bowl. What like what are we? Yeah,

772
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: I think, yeah you should. I just called him Rupert

773
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: because he kind of was goofy. I feel like Rupert's

774
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:26,879
Speaker 1: a goofy name. Yeah that's probably true, but yeah, that's

775
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: it's certainly like the heartbreak the healing bull for sure. Man.

776
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 1: It was just very pivotal experience in my in my

777
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: young life and really set me straight. You know, I

778
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 1: think that's the that's the that's the nature of this

779
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 1: kind of this kind of story, this kind of hunt. Now,

780
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 1: that's that's a cool thing we've been I said on

781
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: Friday and probably said before that the quarantine cast here

782
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: is a good It's just me getting together with good

783
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: buddies and tell hunt stories. And that's it's in some

784
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: way good to get back to that from for me,

785
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: even personally, because just talking about hunting, talking abou the

786
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 1: experience reliving cool things that happened to me in my

787
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: life with the people that I enjoy and been his

788
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: own catharsis, you know, telling the stories its own way

789
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 1: of kind of of being being healed in weird ways.

790
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: Not to get too deep on anybody, but I like it. Man,

791
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: you've you've so you spent a lot of time l coome.

792
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's a good transition to turkey hunting. Um,

793
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:33,919
Speaker 1: you spent less time turkey hunting, right, I mean if yeah, more,

794
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: you're the when we came to when we came together.

795
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,240
Speaker 1: I need to learn to l call from you, and

796
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 1: and I'll show you how. At least as much as

797
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 1: I know about turkey calling. It was a good good

798
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: My experience, like turkey Hounting was just growing up. We

799
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: would just go, like you know, three or four days

800
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: of spring, and it was it was not at the

801
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 1: level in which in which you guys approach it, which

802
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: was awesome to learn, you know. And I think we

803
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: can get into that for sure, because I think it's Yeah,

804
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 1: it's just of those things that it's kind of like

805
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: al khutt in the spring, so to speak a little bit,

806
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, similar things. So, because I like to

807
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 1: rip these stories out, we'll get to how we got

808
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: to to Eastern Oregon. Let down the line, but we

809
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 1: just start at the turkey that you killed, and then

810
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: we'll work our way back to the beginning. But so

811
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: we got together turkey hunt in the Eastern Oregon last year.

812
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: It was right after the h A Rendezvous, which is

813
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 1: uh in May. Was in May last year. Yeah, so

814
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: it's fast forward to I've already killed a bird, which

815
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 1: I will tell you guys all about I've already killed

816
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 1: a bird. We get back to camp. There's a bunch

817
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: of dudes in camp. Um guys from Federal Premium, MAMO,

818
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: a bunch of other companies came together to put on

819
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: an awesome hunt. We could all just hang out, blow

820
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: some steam after the rendezvous, have a good turkey hunt

821
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: on some public ground up in Oregon. I have are

822
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,879
Speaker 1: we come back, I've are he got a turkey down

823
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: and we're gonna get you a bird. And we come

824
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: back and a couple of guys had returned. We won't,

825
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: I won't evolce you. They were, so it's not too

826
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 1: so it's not to it's not to piss them off

827
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: or either way, they had been hunting a turkey that

828
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 1: whole morning. They were having uh uh issues trying to

829
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,479
Speaker 1: get this bird to fire up and come in. And

830
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: we got back and we're having a conversation with like, hey,

831
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: we filled out our tags and like, hey, this is

832
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 1: where we were. You guys want to check it out.

833
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: That's fine, and interrupt me, Kevin if I'm getting this wrong,

834
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 1: because throughout the quartine cast, throughout the quarantine cast, I

835
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: have screwed up lots of details. So so we decide

836
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: we're gonna run out to the general area where they

837
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: were kind of in the afternoon and see if we

838
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: can strike out a bird really quick. I want to

839
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 1: get get get back out there. We had quick success

840
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: on my turkey. See if we can at least strike

841
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 1: a bird up roost them get back at in the morning.

842
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: I remember not having um, not having a whole bunch

843
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: of hope. We were kill a turkey, just thinking we

844
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 1: could we could set something up for the for the

845
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,760
Speaker 1: following morning and see what we see some new countries.

846
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: So we go zooming down a bunch of county roads, um,

847
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: a bunch of logging roads, park the truck at the

848
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: spot where they said to park, get out, and I

849
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: don't know you could when did we hear this bird?

850
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: I mean we were just getting our vests on and

851
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 1: getting going and we heard that. Didn't even sort of

852
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: strike up a gobble, It just sort of We're just

853
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 1: standing there thinking about, you know, what's side of the

854
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: road we're gonna go to? You what looks like the

855
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 1: best country? And all senders, Yeah, up the ridge right

856
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: up there is not to like two hundred yards three

857
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,919
Speaker 1: hundred yards up the ridge from us, Yeah, not far.

858
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 1: So give people, you know, this is kind of your country,

859
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 1: as you're describing. You spend a lot of time in

860
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: eastern Oregon and hunted the hell out of it, So

861
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 1: give people just kind of the best you ken what

862
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: that what that landscape we were in looks like? Yeah,

863
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: so all these all these old like logging roads basically, um,

864
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: we're you know, log deering what I would consider probably

865
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: like forty yes years ago. I would have said, I

866
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: assumed forty fifty years ago, and continue to be logged

867
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: here and there. So there's a lot of reproduct um

868
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 1: along the roads, and then you kind of get up

869
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:16,479
Speaker 1: into these little benches um where there's like open sort

870
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 1: of uh you know, stump ground and then reproud and

871
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: then some big old girl. Um. So yeah, the spot

872
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 1: we were hunting it was basically you know, to yards

873
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: off the road, um, and we kind of got to

874
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 1: climb up through this uh what'd you call like it's

875
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 1: like open understory basically with some big trees leading up

876
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 1: to this really beautiful bench kind of almost like it

877
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 1: almost looks like whitetail country that way where it really does.

878
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 1: It's just like a big cut block where with some

879
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: busty young pines coming up from from where they've been cut,

880
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: and a great great spot for turkeys, a high ridge

881
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:51,439
Speaker 1: where they can be up on a bunch of roost

882
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,879
Speaker 1: trees that were kind of set down on the ridge

883
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 1: enough where they weren't skyline, but enough where they like

884
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: to have the vantage. And I and I'm I'm a

885
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 1: meeting when I hear this bird gob I'm like, well,

886
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 1: that's that. That's he's fired up. And he's not just

887
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: gobbling to god, he's gobbling out of hand or something.

888
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: He just had that that urgency about him, like he

889
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 1: was rounding up, much like a herd bull might do

890
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 1: when he's rounding up his cows. Just remember it being

891
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 1: a very consistent, you know, like a gobble, gobble, gob go.

892
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 1: And I couldn't believe, and you'll hear the story of

893
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: my turkey in a minute. I couldn't believe that we

894
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: had come to such luck once I heard this goble,

895
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 1: how close it was. And I looked and there was

896
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: just kind of like a serpentine pattern of timber leading

897
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,919
Speaker 1: to this open bench that you were describing. And I'm like, man,

898
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 1: we get down and go down to the bar ditch here,

899
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 1: get up the other side. We can follow this timber

900
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 1: and then we're gonna be in some like, you know,

901
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,359
Speaker 1: parallel with him at some point, and then eventually we're

902
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 1: gonna be on his level and we'll still be in

903
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 1: the timber. So as long as we don't mess anything

904
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 1: up here, um, I don't want him to have the

905
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 1: high ground anymore. But we should be able to cut

906
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: that off and and get close to the level with

907
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 1: where he was on the hit. So to look at

908
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: him like, I can't believe you got this lucky two

909
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: times in a row. This is you know, who knows

910
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. But man, we just shut the door

911
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 1: to the car and we got a bird goblin and

912
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:11,879
Speaker 1: we're at you know what, day two of the hunt,

913
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 1: maybe two or days one, day two, I think day two,

914
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: So it's not like we were six days into a

915
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 1: hunter or anything to fill tags that quickly. So anyway,

916
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 1: we get going up the hill there, we sneak around,

917
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 1: get on the edge of this timber and kind of

918
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: quietly sneak up which is probably two hundred yards in

919
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: the timber, three hundred yards in the timber, to get

920
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 1: to this bench where um, I would say, by the

921
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 1: time we hit the bench hundred hundred fifty yards to

922
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 1: our left at this point, which would have probably been

923
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 1: our north northeast, this bird still goblin the whole time.

924
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: I mean, he didn't shut up for more than ten

925
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: minutes the entire time we're raking up there. So which

926
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 1: as any turkey hunter will know, any hunter will know

927
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 1: when a bird. Um, it's very vocal like that. You

928
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:04,839
Speaker 1: can really move quickly and easily, knowing exactly where he is,

929
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 1: you know, understanding your spatial awareness where you couldn't if

930
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: he wasn't making noise. Um. So we were able to

931
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: be a little bit more aggressive than you normally would.

932
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: We get to the edge of the timber. He's still gobbling,

933
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 1: and we're kind of just crawling out on this mossy

934
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 1: flat and I look up and and I don't know

935
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 1: if I'm in front of you, you're in front of me.

936
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: At this point, we're kind of jostling around to get positioned.

937
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 1: I look up and not too far away from us.

938
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 1: You could say how far. I'll let you tell a

939
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: little bit of the story now, But there's a hen

940
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 1: probably what fifty sixty yards away from us, maybe closer, Yeah,

941
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: almost almost a shootable distance, right, and we kind of

942
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: like peek our head through. And at this point we're

943
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 1: all massed up and and and sort of thinking about

944
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 1: how we're gonna do this, and we're almost pinned at

945
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: that point. Yeah, we were pinned. I was behind you,

946
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I can't move. Nobody like if you move,

947
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 1: if we spook this hand, it's game over. Um, you

948
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 1: know we were, we were absolutely pinned at this point.

949
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: We got a gobbler up above us. You know, all

950
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 1: you got to do is come a hundred yards and

951
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: it's over. And now we've got a live decoy. You know,

952
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: we didn't even have time to call out and put

953
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 1: a decoy up. So I and again, we're twenty minutes

954
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:23,720
Speaker 1: from the truck on on what essentially is a flyer

955
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 1: to go find and see if we can roost a bird.

956
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, we're in the thick of turkeys,

957
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 1: twenty minutes from the truck, in a place where our

958
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 1: hunting our hunting buddies had just spent almost all day

959
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: running around trying to find trying to find a turkey

960
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: in and here we are stumbling into it. So I

961
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: get a call out. At this point, I know that

962
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: we're in the absolute best position possible. So for anybody

963
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 1: who's ever turkey on it, or if you haven't, if

964
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 1: you can get in between or anywhere close to a

965
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 1: hen and a fired up gobbler's especially as weird as

966
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, hey, it's near the roost time, they're gonna

967
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: be moving towards roost at this point. You know, they

968
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 1: got an hour or so, hour and a half or so,

969
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 1: they're gonna be moving towards the roost at this point.

970
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 1: So the direction this hand is going is the direction

971
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 1: that goblers going, no doubt. And the way that he

972
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 1: was acting, he's fired up and he's not gonna let

973
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: her scurry off too far. Um. As soon as I

974
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 1: saw that hand, I'm like, this is gonna be we

975
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: as long as we can stay vocal. And and for

976
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 1: what I remember that hend just was putting, just kind

977
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: of hanging out, very calm, but still vocal enough that

978
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 1: he could hear. And all I did was add some

979
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 1: purrs to it, add some contented calls to it, you know,

980
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 1: at a at, a cluck here and there kind of

981
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 1: um um. But when I said, she wasn't but she

982
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: was clucking, but you know, these are contented calls. Were

983
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 1: just kind of adding to the mix for him to

984
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: think like, oh man, there's another hand in the timber there.

985
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 1: I gotta go check that out. And I don't know

986
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 1: how how long it was. It wasn't long he was

987
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 1: over there and on top of us, and how long, well,

988
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: I didn't I just remember, like I had my gun

989
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: up and it was kind of like resting on my knee,

990
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 1: just waiting, and then all of a sudden he was there,

991
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 1: you know, And it was a matter of seconds, and

992
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:14,800
Speaker 1: he did the whole um, the whole presentation, which I

993
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 1: think in any sort of situation, what I look for

994
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 1: now as a hunter is like, that's kind of what

995
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: I'm after, is he's like presentation moments that are that

996
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 1: are sort of textbook, but not a lot of people

997
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 1: maybe have the opportunity to see because maybe they only

998
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: spend two to three days in the wood, so they're

999
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 1: just kind of taking it as they go. But we

1000
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 1: actually had the opportunity to to see how how it

1001
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 1: should happen, right, And maybe it's a lot of luck.

1002
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just the way we found out where these

1003
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 1: birds were. Whatever it was, this thing happened exactly how

1004
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:46,839
Speaker 1: it should have um And he came to He came

1005
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: in and strided some. He was, from what I remember,

1006
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 1: spitting a drum and putting on the show man. He was.

1007
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 1: He was doing like the the back and forth right,

1008
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: the sort of the zig zag routine. The only nervous

1009
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 1: I had the hands started to move away. There was

1010
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 1: two hens from when I remember, and they were popping

1011
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 1: in out of these young pines, and they started to

1012
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 1: move away from us, and in my worry was like, shit,

1013
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,359
Speaker 1: he he gets in here to fifty yards and kind

1014
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:17,359
Speaker 1: of peels off after these hens um And so I'm

1015
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 1: back in the timber land for a lot of I

1016
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:21,720
Speaker 1: couldn't even see him, but I could. I could feel

1017
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 1: that that turkey, but I couldn't see him, and so

1018
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 1: I just kept purring, kept clucking, kept keeping just just

1019
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 1: a rhythm about that, just to try to get him

1020
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 1: to hang around. Maybe cut the distance ten more yards

1021
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 1: so you can get a shot, because I was feeling

1022
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:38,760
Speaker 1: like the edge of that timber was was not close

1023
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: enough to where he was banking in and to get

1024
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 1: to strut, I just felt like it wasn't close enough. Um.

1025
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: And that was my only worry from from what ended

1026
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 1: up being a really simple turkey encounter. But he gets

1027
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 1: in there and then and obviously you take it from there,

1028
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 1: because as I'm doing is making turkey noises. Yeah, I

1029
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: remember you kind of like slinking back into the timber

1030
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 1: just a little. It almost just like how how al

1031
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,399
Speaker 1: Connor would do it to try to draw that bird,

1032
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 1: just like or that all just five yards closer, right, um.

1033
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 1: And I remember that bird doing that is sort of

1034
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 1: strutting and routine through that area and kind of weaving.

1035
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 1: And sometimes this happens to me often where I just

1036
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:19,839
Speaker 1: get lost in sort of the presentation of it all,

1037
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,320
Speaker 1: and I forget almost said, oh, we're gonna kill this

1038
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:26,359
Speaker 1: bird now, um. And that's one of those things where

1039
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:29,320
Speaker 1: I remember him and you're probably thinking to yourself, shoot him,

1040
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 1: freaking shoot him, shoot him, um. And I remember his uh,

1041
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,359
Speaker 1: his uh, his feathers kind of coming back down from

1042
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 1: that strout. Once I didn't shoot him, then he can't

1043
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 1: went back into a strata again. And then he came

1044
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: back out and it's like forty four yards or something,

1045
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,840
Speaker 1: and and hit him with that TSS from Federal and

1046
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 1: and dropped him in his tracks at forty four yards.

1047
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 1: And I mean, if he would have winn another two

1048
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:54,839
Speaker 1: ft would have been all over because he was going

1049
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: to be back in those little pine trees and there's

1050
00:53:56,600 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 1: no shot. It was literally one um one shooting lane. Yeah,

1051
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:06,479
Speaker 1: and we made it happen and that that was exhilarating, man. Yeah,

1052
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 1: I mean, man it you tell stories like this and

1053
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,839
Speaker 1: I think you could probably say this elk too. It's

1054
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:16,720
Speaker 1: very similar, and it's it's awesome that you're passionate elk hunters.

1055
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 1: I am a turkey hunter and kind of like the

1056
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 1: way those things collide. And then in country that you

1057
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 1: know well and spent a lot of time, and it's

1058
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 1: a good combo. Um see. Yeah, you get to a

1059
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 1: point where, especially in this case, like this turkey, this

1060
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: has presented you on a platter, but there's just this

1061
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 1: one variable. Everything has to go right. You know. We

1062
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 1: could have chased that turkey for forever and never got

1063
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 1: into a position where he was sucked into some hens

1064
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 1: going towards the roofs, and we got to forty yard,

1065
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 1: like a perfect forty yard position, didn't get spotted by

1066
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 1: the hens. I was sure when we poked our heads out,

1067
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,720
Speaker 1: I'm like that hen is gonna see us. Like, there's

1068
00:54:54,760 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 1: no way that her. Yeah, yep, similar similar positions there,

1069
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 1: And so you're like, man, this is gonna something's gonna

1070
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 1: go wrong. This is too easy. We're gonna end up

1071
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 1: back in here tomorrow, belly crawl through this timber trying

1072
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: to get that bird anywhere close to where he is,

1073
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 1: because he was end up he was hend up in

1074
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 1: the in the definition of the of the word. We

1075
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: just happened to be like right in the right spot.

1076
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:20,839
Speaker 1: And part of that was, you know, we talked about

1077
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 1: our approach. We said, if we go up here, we

1078
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 1: poke out here, will be you know, in in a

1079
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 1: good spot on that bench. But you know the other

1080
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 1: part of its serendipitous to say the least. Yeah, you know,

1081
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:32,879
Speaker 1: it's interesting about that situation too, is when we're talking

1082
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:36,399
Speaker 1: about like animals, uh, in their directional ability. When those

1083
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: turkeys come out of the tree in the morning, it's

1084
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,319
Speaker 1: almost like the world's their oyster, right, they can do

1085
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 1: whatever they want. They're going they might be going a

1086
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 1: long way to go get food. Maybe they're going to

1087
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:46,839
Speaker 1: a spot where they're gonna try to round up some hens,

1088
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 1: at least in my experience, right. Uh. But what's cool

1089
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 1: about when they're going back to the roost is if

1090
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 1: you can figure out just the general area where they're

1091
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 1: going to be roosting. And this might be simple, but

1092
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 1: it was kind of an aha moment for me. Um,

1093
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 1: if you're if you're with then that like forty yard

1094
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 1: range and where they want to go. It seems like

1095
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 1: the pathway is sort of set in stone because they're

1096
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,319
Speaker 1: trying to go somewhere because they're pretty vulnerable obviously at night.

1097
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 1: And that's historically why a lot of even me growing up,

1098
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 1: you know, you could historically a lot of places out

1099
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:16,359
Speaker 1: of the East and even the Midwest you can only

1100
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 1: hunt til noon. Because that's why. I imagine there's other factors,

1101
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 1: but I imagine that it's it's part of of that

1102
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:25,839
Speaker 1: fair chase, Like you're not gonna sit under the roost

1103
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 1: tree and let him all right to you. But in

1104
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,279
Speaker 1: our case, we just like that was another it was

1105
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 1: one of the factors that led us to success. That

1106
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 1: they that there wasn't a he wasn't gonna bail off

1107
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 1: over the hill if we spook the hen he was

1108
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 1: gonna He needed to be where she was and wanted

1109
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,800
Speaker 1: to be where she was for for a million different reasons.

1110
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 1: So it's it's one of those things when I was

1111
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 1: happy as hell. We just went through like a single

1112
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 1: day and killed two turkeys. Um, I think that was

1113
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 1: the only two turkeys in camp. I think at that point,

1114
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: I think there was one more killed. I think Jason

1115
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 1: from fed real kill, which is pretty cool. And that's

1116
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 1: like that just that nod to that ammunition. Man, that

1117
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:10,360
Speaker 1: that TSS stuff is incredible. And last year I can't

1118
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 1: I got a I got a hoarding. I'm not hoarding

1119
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 1: toilet paper. I've been hard TSS over here. Like last

1120
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 1: year I shot a burden in Texas and and literally

1121
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 1: decapitated this thing and broke its legs in the process.

1122
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 1: The payload hits so hard UM to the point where

1123
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 1: Ranella was like, did you break those legs when you

1124
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 1: were butchering it? I mean no, dude, I there's no

1125
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 1: way I could have breaking its legs like that. It

1126
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 1: got hit so hard by the payload that it's snapped

1127
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 1: its legs. In this case, you made a great you know,

1128
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 1: forty or four yards is as a poke, in my opinion,

1129
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 1: with the UM, with any twelve games, twenty anything, any

1130
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 1: any gun, especially with that small target. You know, I'm

1131
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 1: not I'm not trying to pat myself on the back here.

1132
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:58,439
Speaker 1: It's more of the ammunition that did the job. But

1133
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 1: UM certainly pretty impressed with that for sure. It just

1134
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 1: it just gives that actually level of confidence to be

1135
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 1: able to if you make a good shot, you know

1136
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 1: it's going to be pretty lethal. Yeah, So that's it man,

1137
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 1: that was your turkey, and we were hella, we were excited,

1138
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:15,919
Speaker 1: and I'm sure we popped a few, uh a few

1139
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 1: beers at night and that was that was kind of

1140
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 1: the end of the hunt. It was a quick and

1141
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 1: dirty hunt, if you can be that. To rewind, this

1142
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 1: is earlier that day. Um. That that well, that morning

1143
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 1: we were winding to that morning, you and I, uh

1144
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 1: ride down from our camp. We kind of pick a

1145
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 1: zone that we're gonna hunt, look at some maps, you know,

1146
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 1: find our way into an area if I can remember right,

1147
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 1: didn't exactly. We got a little bit turned around to

1148
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 1: where we wanted to get to. Um, we've never been

1149
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 1: that country before. Finally found our way down you know

1150
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 1: what was a pretty gnarly logging road back into an

1151
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 1: area where where it looked like there was some good flats,

1152
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 1: some good ridges, some good area where they can work

1153
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 1: the edges, and some good um zones where they'd like

1154
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 1: to strut into. And there was a lot of sign

1155
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 1: on the roads to Turkey tracks everywhere. UM. I felt

1156
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 1: pretty good about it, but I never felt as good

1157
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 1: as I did when I heard what I would say

1158
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 1: is the most fired up maybe the maybe the dumbest

1159
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 1: turkey that I've ever run into in my entire career.

1160
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 1: This turkey I ended up killing. We should have named him,

1161
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't remember if we did or not.

1162
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 1: But yeah, I shouldn't name him the squawker Man because

1163
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 1: he would not he would not quite. Yeah, we parked.

1164
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 1: I remember parking the truck and calling and nothing, and

1165
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 1: then heard this bird up like he was up on

1166
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 1: you know, I would say a ridge. It was more

1167
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 1: like just a exaggerated knob kind of in the middle

1168
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 1: of in the middle of December there, I mean, he

1169
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 1: was up on the crown of it. Just strutton and

1170
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 1: guy strutting in Goblin. I think I still have a

1171
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 1: video of my phone of him just he was interrupting

1172
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 1: him about his own gobbles. Well that video you sent me.

1173
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 1: He was like, hey, hey, hey, like just it's just

1174
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 1: I think I made the analogy like he's in a

1175
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 1: like a a guy in a bar walking up to

1176
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 1: a chick, like, hey, how's it going, how's it going?

1177
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 1: How's it going? Can I get your number? I want

1178
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 1: your number, Camber. Let's go out, let's go out, Let's go.

1179
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 1: I love you, I love you, I love you. I

1180
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 1: love you so much. And this is this turkey man,

1181
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 1: and I've never where he was on this crown was

1182
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 1: like a beautiful grassy knoll where he had a bunch

1183
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 1: of awesome roost trees, kind of a grove a canopy

1184
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 1: that made it just seem Ideali. And he's up on

1185
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 1: this crown. As I explained before, like the worst thing

1186
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 1: I like to see in this kind of country is

1187
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 1: a turkey that's above you. Um, because it's the worst

1188
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 1: thing to do. And then I'll say that I made

1189
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 1: a tactical air of all tactic letters. Luckily this turkey

1190
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 1: just well, there was no way he wasn't gonna die,

1191
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 1: Like he just was determined to come see us no

1192
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 1: matter what. He was up on the knobs and we

1193
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 1: were searching. We were kind of sneaking through this a

1194
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:18,959
Speaker 1: bunch of down timber, trying to get to get under

1195
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 1: where this knob was. And at this point I haven't

1196
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 1: seen him. We don't exactly know what kind of terrain

1197
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 1: he's in, but we know he's above us, and we

1198
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:28,920
Speaker 1: know we gotta make an approach that's not the best.

1199
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 1: And I was stressed out the whole time because I'm like,

1200
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 1: he could see down through here. I don't know what

1201
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 1: approach we could take this better than this one, but

1202
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 1: this is gonna be sketchy. Um. But at some point

1203
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 1: we get right below his his ridge there, right below

1204
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 1: his little his little castle, and we have to cross

1205
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 1: some down like I would say, logicals what they were,

1206
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 1: but down down pines with clear cut to get to

1207
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 1: the edge of his ridge and get up, get up

1208
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 1: the other side. So I'll let you take it from there.

1209
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 1: We had a little conversation where you made the right

1210
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 1: call and I made the and I was like, screw it,

1211
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 1: let's get let's go, belly girl. Yeah. We just sat right.

1212
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:12,680
Speaker 1: I mean, we got to that point and I just thought, well,

1213
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 1: if this thing is so fired up, uh, he's gonna

1214
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 1: make them. He's gonna make the distance. Right. So we

1215
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 1: probably ended up going a little short, honestly, um in

1216
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 1: the grand scheme of things. But I just I just

1217
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 1: thought like, well, if this is if we were trying

1218
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:29,440
Speaker 1: to equate this to al Kinting in some some regard,

1219
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 1: which is maybe maybe unfair for the general intelligence of

1220
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 1: these things. But the thing is, like he was so

1221
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 1: jacked up, and I thought, well, maybe he'll come an

1222
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 1: extra fifty yards at this point, So we kind of

1223
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 1: hunkered out and we we kind of got to this

1224
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:45,480
Speaker 1: point where it's like a little lower than we would

1225
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 1: have liked from I remembers if the ridge runs straight

1226
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 1: out in front of you, we were kind of on

1227
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 1: the downward side of that ridge. Um, there's like a

1228
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 1: little bowl in front of us that he had to

1229
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 1: come through. And I bet you not, like I don't know,

1230
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 1: five minutes after we sat down and just started calling

1231
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 1: a little bit. That thing was it was not a mission.

1232
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 1: But he held up right. I mean, he came to

1233
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 1: where we probably should have got to. UM. But I

1234
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:11,440
Speaker 1: think he probably would have seen us at that point, UM,

1235
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 1: if we would have kind of inched up in a

1236
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 1: little bit more country. I remember seeing him because we

1237
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 1: were kind of uh set up where you were in

1238
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 1: front of me. I was a little bit farther back

1239
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 1: at the angle. If he came from me the way,

1240
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 1: either one of us is gonna try to shoot him. Um.

1241
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 1: And I remember him kind of holding up in front

1242
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 1: of this big tree and I just saw his head

1243
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 1: poke up. So I was just hunkered and then you

1244
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 1: hit him with another another series of calls, and he

1245
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 1: came in right to you. I mean that had to

1246
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 1: been like what yards maybe, Oh yeah, And he came

1247
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 1: running running, yeah, now he and he just stop two quick,

1248
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 1: you're going the wrong way. He came to to my side,

1249
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 1: to the right side, yeah, um to where I really

1250
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 1: just didn't. I didn't. I didn't think he was going

1251
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 1: to do that. The play I had as there was

1252
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 1: a kind of an old road, a two check run

1253
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 1: in front of us. I thought he was gonna hit

1254
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 1: at that and strut in there. I want to strut

1255
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 1: in the wide open instead of coming through the through

1256
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 1: the timber. It's kind of there's some undulating hill up

1257
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 1: and down hills there. And um, he did he he

1258
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 1: came the one way I thought he wouldn't. And so

1259
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 1: now I've got a treat to my right. I'm if

1260
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 1: my gun barrel is is I don't know, twelve o'clock.

1261
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 1: He's coming at like five o'clock. And I've got a swing,

1262
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:30,040
Speaker 1: but I've got a tree between me and him, and

1263
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 1: I've got another little sapling. I've got to raise my

1264
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 1: gun barrel over together and angles. I'm like, as he's coming,

1265
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 1: I'm looking at him, I'm looking through the side. I'm like, well,

1266
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 1: he's gonna get behind me, and then maybe I can

1267
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 1: flip around and shoot him. But I don't want to

1268
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 1: really drag my barrel across you, and I don't want

1269
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 1: I don't want to let him get past us. Um

1270
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 1: I just I didn't want to. So he gets about

1271
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 1: twenty five yards, he's behind a log, puts his head down.

1272
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 1: I think I can swing really quick. When he puts

1273
01:04:57,240 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 1: a set up, I'll just kill him right there. Well,

1274
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 1: it wasn't great. I tried to. I try to pick

1275
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 1: my gun barrel up to get over this sapling, and

1276
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 1: whacked this sapling directly in the center of it and

1277
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 1: making broom getting beat against the death. It sounds like

1278
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 1: if I was hitting this microphone I'm talking into it

1279
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 1: sounds like this. It was loud. It was like, what

1280
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 1: is he doing up there? What was he doing over there?

1281
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:27,000
Speaker 1: So I get the swinging on this thing and hit

1282
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:30,920
Speaker 1: this tree. He looks up, sees me immediately and starts

1283
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 1: turning to run, and I in my mind, I just

1284
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 1: it was one of those old ship moments where I'm

1285
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 1: sure this thing's gonna fly off through the timber and

1286
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be the there's the dumbest turkey young move

1287
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 1: I've ever made, and luckily before he kind of like

1288
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 1: takes flight, I just turned and he kind of slowed

1289
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 1: down to one of those just head bob walks where

1290
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 1: he was just confused at what he saw, and he

1291
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 1: kind of turned to look back at me, maybe thirt

1292
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:58,520
Speaker 1: or five yards, and I shot and knocked him down.

1293
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 1: Lucky for me, I didn't. I wasn't. I wouldn't have,

1294
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 1: but you know, I didn't have to take like a

1295
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 1: running running shot like most turkeys. This turkey just just

1296
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 1: didn't have it. Most turkeys would have heard that whack

1297
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:14,920
Speaker 1: and been flying too, one flying to salvation. But this

1298
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:17,920
Speaker 1: bird just kind of like trotted off, like I don't know.

1299
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:22,320
Speaker 1: We should call him Romeo probably because he there's nothing

1300
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 1: that was not going to keep him to love there.

1301
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 1: But we have to reverse from so that that burns down.

1302
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 1: We took some photos, did our thing, and we had

1303
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 1: we had bird number one. And you love it, man,

1304
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 1: You love it when something comes together like that. But

1305
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 1: we gotta go back to the time where before this happened,

1306
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 1: where we screwed it up right. Um, Like I said,

1307
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:45,440
Speaker 1: he was on it. He was in his own little castle.

1308
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 1: He was on like the crown of this this beautiful

1309
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 1: green meadow. Um and he was hanging out in a

1310
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:54,960
Speaker 1: place where his roost tree was and it was kind

1311
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 1: of a hard spot to get to. And we get

1312
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 1: in there. We have to cross a clearing to get

1313
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 1: to the base of this knob that he's on, which

1314
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 1: is probably about five yards above us. And I say, hey, man,

1315
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:15,360
Speaker 1: I don't wanna this bird is fired up. I think

1316
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:17,000
Speaker 1: we should just charge in there. If we get close

1317
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:18,560
Speaker 1: to him, he's gonna come down the hill. Ask one

1318
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:21,400
Speaker 1: will kill him, no problem. And You're like, yeah, but

1319
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 1: he might see us. Let's let's go around the knob

1320
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 1: to the backside. We'll have timber cover, we'll probably you know,

1321
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 1: he's definitely not gonna see if we do that. I said, man,

1322
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 1: I think if we if we just sneak across here

1323
01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:35,040
Speaker 1: really fast, uh, we're gonna get close enough and then

1324
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:36,440
Speaker 1: all we'll have to do is make a squeak and

1325
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 1: he'll he'll come down. With any notings we make, he'll

1326
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 1: come charge it down. And at this point we're having

1327
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 1: this conversation and in the background, he's like in the

1328
01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 1: background more probably a hundred gobbles in the first twenty

1329
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 1: minutes You've never heard anything like it. It's remarkable. And

1330
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:55,000
Speaker 1: so I think, like, at this point, I'm like this,

1331
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:57,880
Speaker 1: this turkey is going wild. We can be aggressive and

1332
01:07:57,920 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 1: if we if we can get this done, if we

1333
01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:02,080
Speaker 1: can get across this a little clearing without him seeing us,

1334
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 1: it's over. So it's a it's over if we get

1335
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:08,680
Speaker 1: across this clearing, because on the other side of it

1336
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 1: it slopes up to where he standing. Hell, he all

1337
01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 1: he has to do is come fifty sixty yards down

1338
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 1: this hill, which he's gonna do. And we could have

1339
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:17,360
Speaker 1: laid on our stomachs and and shot him as he

1340
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 1: as he crested and came down to us. Um, none

1341
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:24,679
Speaker 1: of that was was perfect. In fact, it wasn't optimal

1342
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:26,800
Speaker 1: at all. But my feeling is this turkey is so

1343
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 1: mad for for whatever reason, he's so fired up that

1344
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:33,559
Speaker 1: he'll he'll do kind of whatever we want at this point,

1345
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:36,800
Speaker 1: and I remember you saying, yeah, but we could go back,

1346
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, let's just let's get across here. I

1347
01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:41,920
Speaker 1: went first. I went first, and you filowed. We got

1348
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 1: across this thing. It's there's a lot of down down

1349
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:46,800
Speaker 1: pines and stuff to get over, so it's it's relatively

1350
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 1: noisy chasing bugles at that point. You know what, it's

1351
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:54,080
Speaker 1: like that same deal where it's not just like a

1352
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:56,000
Speaker 1: new wheat field that you're hutting the edge of were

1353
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:59,160
Speaker 1: like huts, Yeah, this is mountain turkey hunting. Man, It's

1354
01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:01,240
Speaker 1: very much like elk hunting, the same kind of Games

1355
01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:04,160
Speaker 1: Center scenario. You could replace that turkey within the big

1356
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:06,759
Speaker 1: bull and it would amost the same kind of decision.

1357
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:10,439
Speaker 1: We make it across this make some noise getting across.

1358
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 1: I'm not happy about kind of what's going on. Three

1359
01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:15,439
Speaker 1: quarters of the way across what was probably seventy five

1360
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:19,240
Speaker 1: yard uh journey, I'm like, this is not If he's

1361
01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:22,880
Speaker 1: still up there, it's a miracle we get to the bottom.

1362
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 1: We started kind of, you know, slowly making our way

1363
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 1: up there is and then we stopped and it's silence,

1364
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 1: and I immediately like, well, that's over. He's gone. But

1365
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:36,920
Speaker 1: in your head you're like, no, maybe he just is

1366
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:39,759
Speaker 1: moving towards us, or maybe he's just quiet. But after

1367
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:42,920
Speaker 1: twenty minutes of just a gobble every three seconds, and

1368
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 1: I knew, I'm like, well we spooked that turkey. That

1369
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:49,800
Speaker 1: was a ship decision. And so we hiked up there

1370
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 1: to where he was hung out a little bit, didn't

1371
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:55,680
Speaker 1: hear him. And then twenty minutes after I knew we

1372
01:09:55,720 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 1: spooked him maybe five yards to our south west where

1373
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:03,679
Speaker 1: we ended up shooting him. We're here, Oh my god,

1374
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:07,720
Speaker 1: he's back. Didn't take him, just a little scared. I

1375
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:09,800
Speaker 1: don't know, he just got a little scared. Didn't take

1376
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:12,680
Speaker 1: him long. Yeah, I mean, usually a mature time like that,

1377
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:17,479
Speaker 1: and he was mature. Will it will get spooked in

1378
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 1: in a scenario like that, especially when he's so close

1379
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 1: to his roose tree, when he's so you know, in

1380
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:24,639
Speaker 1: his home zone. Is he gonna get out of town

1381
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:26,280
Speaker 1: and not be heard from cry for the rest of

1382
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:30,800
Speaker 1: the morning. This guy just flew like across the ridge,

1383
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 1: got on the next, got on the next ridge over,

1384
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:35,800
Speaker 1: walked about hundred yards, and then just went right back

1385
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:41,599
Speaker 1: to it. And I think that the piece to remember

1386
01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:44,480
Speaker 1: there was just like stay in agile in that situation,

1387
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:46,600
Speaker 1: you know, especially like with a with an animal like

1388
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:48,760
Speaker 1: that that's so fired up, if you're able to kind

1389
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:51,640
Speaker 1: of like give him a second reassess and then go

1390
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 1: hunt him. I mean, that was like a pretty unique situation. Obviously,

1391
01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:58,680
Speaker 1: with the way he responded, But um, certainly something I

1392
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:00,840
Speaker 1: learned for sure. It's just get on your toes being

1393
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:03,719
Speaker 1: a little agile. I learned something that day too, because

1394
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:06,559
Speaker 1: we I did say, hey, let's just sit here a while,

1395
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 1: like we just gotta we spook this bird. There's no

1396
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:11,720
Speaker 1: reason to like go try to call and strike up

1397
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:14,360
Speaker 1: another one. Let's sit here a while and just just

1398
01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 1: kind of see, let's just take a break and we

1399
01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:20,320
Speaker 1: lost this battle, and let's just sitting under this tree

1400
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 1: a while and do some you know. I mean that

1401
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:25,479
Speaker 1: was the way past daylight too. You know, I think

1402
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:28,799
Speaker 1: I'll kill that bird like nine or ten, right something

1403
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:32,080
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, so yeah, we ended up hiking hiking

1404
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:34,920
Speaker 1: off the knob his little castle, which dude, I'm glad

1405
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:36,800
Speaker 1: I have on X because I can map, I can

1406
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:41,799
Speaker 1: mark my waypoint of that like most perfect, most perfect knob.

1407
01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 1: Like That's why I would almost guaranteed there's a trick

1408
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 1: you stand on that knob as we speak right now. Um,

1409
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 1: so you know, thanks thanks to our buddy Zach from

1410
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:57,720
Speaker 1: ONYX was there, So thanks to him for being a

1411
01:11:57,720 --> 01:12:00,160
Speaker 1: part of a great company to help us do that too.

1412
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:03,240
Speaker 1: I mean it's I think a lot of times in

1413
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:06,519
Speaker 1: the spot. You just put your head down, you know,

1414
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:09,200
Speaker 1: and you're like running around, chasing this this bird around.

1415
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 1: You don't really know where you're at anymore. And that's

1416
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:13,200
Speaker 1: why it's like kind of a good thing. Whether you

1417
01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 1: drop your pack or whatever, you just throw a little

1418
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 1: pin down, you know, you make your way back. You

1419
01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:19,479
Speaker 1: make your way back, whether it's the next day or

1420
01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 1: the next year or whatever. It's man. So yeah, we

1421
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:24,880
Speaker 1: went down the ridge and up the other side, and

1422
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:27,040
Speaker 1: then the story we already told you happened. We were

1423
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:29,000
Speaker 1: just kind of walking kind of back towards the truck

1424
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:32,280
Speaker 1: and hurt him again and then made the move and

1425
01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:35,599
Speaker 1: he came and did did that. I tried to mess

1426
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 1: it up. I tried my hardest to mess it up.

1427
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:40,960
Speaker 1: I just couldn't. For some reason, I couldn't mess it up.

1428
01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:44,560
Speaker 1: He made it work. And then you know, guys in

1429
01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:48,200
Speaker 1: camp bless him. Man. They you know, buddy Matt Elliott

1430
01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:52,439
Speaker 1: from Bench made had h a rough time. What was that?

1431
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 1: How was that turkey called that? They hunted the whole

1432
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:57,439
Speaker 1: week and never got a shot at I can't remember

1433
01:12:57,439 --> 01:12:59,400
Speaker 1: what they started calling that thing, but they hunted him

1434
01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:02,080
Speaker 1: like five mounts. It was the same bird. It's the

1435
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 1: same bird. They just could not make it happen. I

1436
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:07,120
Speaker 1: think just for the simple sake of the country they're hunting,

1437
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:11,320
Speaker 1: it was a little difficult. Um. He had been hunting, yeah,

1438
01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:13,439
Speaker 1: and he knew what was going on for sure. He

1439
01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:16,479
Speaker 1: had he though he wanted. Yeah, he would gobble and

1440
01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:18,320
Speaker 1: they'd get in on him. So they were having Everybody

1441
01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:21,639
Speaker 1: else is kind of having frustrating hunts. I know Jason

1442
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:25,160
Speaker 1: Nash from Federal got a bird or maybe yeah, yeah,

1443
01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:27,440
Speaker 1: he did get a bird with four ten. It's beautiful,

1444
01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:30,040
Speaker 1: but it was it was a what we thought would

1445
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:34,759
Speaker 1: be you know, a lot of birds be dropping. It wasn't.

1446
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:37,920
Speaker 1: It wasn't like that. And I think one thing I

1447
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:39,880
Speaker 1: would give people about turkey hunting, those of you that

1448
01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:42,240
Speaker 1: are getting ready for this year and thinking about kind

1449
01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:44,519
Speaker 1: of what is turkey hunting compared to other types of hunting.

1450
01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:48,800
Speaker 1: You're gonna an Elkert like this too to to a

1451
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:51,200
Speaker 1: certain extent, but I think turkeys are just don't quite

1452
01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:55,559
Speaker 1: have the brains up top the milk does. Um, you

1453
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:58,360
Speaker 1: are going to It's kind of it's if you have

1454
01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:01,000
Speaker 1: the space on public land or in your own private land,

1455
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:04,360
Speaker 1: it can be a numbers game, especially in Western hunting,

1456
01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 1: like like this was where you really are you know,

1457
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 1: you know, you're not sitting and calling. You're kind of

1458
01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:11,000
Speaker 1: using the country and the terrain to get to a

1459
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:15,000
Speaker 1: point where a call might be to your advantage. But um,

1460
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:17,519
Speaker 1: in the in these scenarios, you can work your way through.

1461
01:14:18,680 --> 01:14:20,760
Speaker 1: The first birds you may strike up could be the

1462
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:23,679
Speaker 1: hardest bird to kill, and you may hunt that same

1463
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:26,200
Speaker 1: bird for five days and feel like turkey hunting is

1464
01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:29,000
Speaker 1: the hardest thing you've ever done and it's impossible and

1465
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:32,280
Speaker 1: you're awful at it. Or you might do what we did,

1466
01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:36,599
Speaker 1: run into run into two really good situations with two

1467
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:39,680
Speaker 1: really fired up turkeys and be boom boom done, and

1468
01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:41,360
Speaker 1: think it's the easiest thing in the world, and there's

1469
01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:46,519
Speaker 1: nothing but a puffed up rumba. As as as Sam soho,

1470
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:50,360
Speaker 1: it always says, um, so you you just gotta keep

1471
01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:53,800
Speaker 1: your perspective. You're gonna run into scenarios and that's all

1472
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:57,240
Speaker 1: of hunting. But I think for sure turkey hunting seems

1473
01:14:57,240 --> 01:15:00,000
Speaker 1: to be that way more predominantly, where you're gonna run

1474
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,720
Speaker 1: into a fired up two year old or a three

1475
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:04,720
Speaker 1: year old bird that just in the right situation, he'll

1476
01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:07,040
Speaker 1: come right in and boom, it's over. And then you

1477
01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:09,679
Speaker 1: may hunt, you know, sneaky pete for for the better

1478
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:12,160
Speaker 1: part of a month and never get them. So they

1479
01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:16,400
Speaker 1: have many close encounters. Um So those of you knew,

1480
01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:17,760
Speaker 1: I know a lot of you guys are right in

1481
01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:19,840
Speaker 1: or new turkey hunters are looking forward to your first

1482
01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:22,920
Speaker 1: season or looking forward to killing your first bird. There's

1483
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:25,639
Speaker 1: a there's a line. You know, there's lots of lines

1484
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:28,519
Speaker 1: from Tom Kelly's book, but mostly he just talks about

1485
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:31,400
Speaker 1: just being a part of the tenth Legion, being being

1486
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 1: part of that army that's gonna go out and just

1487
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:35,599
Speaker 1: do it every day. And if you do that, you'll

1488
01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 1: learn it's gonna seem easy. Some days, it seem impossible

1489
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:42,360
Speaker 1: all the days. That's right. And here we were. Here

1490
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:44,560
Speaker 1: we were, and we were like we were conquerors of

1491
01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:49,200
Speaker 1: Eastern Oregon because we got feeling like champions. It was,

1492
01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:51,679
Speaker 1: and it was I would say situational. I've had turkeys

1493
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:53,760
Speaker 1: I've killed where I thought like that was that was

1494
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:56,880
Speaker 1: all me, Like I made that happen a lot of

1495
01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 1: times when they fly over a fence or over a

1496
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:01,920
Speaker 1: creek or or you know, you pull them in from

1497
01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:04,080
Speaker 1: a long way as you feel like you're you're the

1498
01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:07,760
Speaker 1: calling champion in the world. But in this case, man,

1499
01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:09,960
Speaker 1: it was. It was a hell of a good feeling.

1500
01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:14,280
Speaker 1: And I uh, I went home and chopped that bird

1501
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:18,000
Speaker 1: up and made turkey cordon blue that the next day,

1502
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:21,280
Speaker 1: I remember that look delicious as beautiful. So yeah, we

1503
01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:24,679
Speaker 1: gotta we should probably, I guess we technically can't go together,

1504
01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:27,400
Speaker 1: but we could like be in the same area of

1505
01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:32,240
Speaker 1: Oregon this she just communicated by alcohols and then trying

1506
01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:34,799
Speaker 1: to kill some turkeys with turkey calls. We could happen

1507
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:38,080
Speaker 1: to be near that way point, like around April eighteenth

1508
01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:40,599
Speaker 1: or something. Yeah, yeah, that might work. I think we're

1509
01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:43,320
Speaker 1: we're in the works and some stuff. We'll see how

1510
01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:46,200
Speaker 1: long it how long this single last. But I think

1511
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:47,760
Speaker 1: the woods are a good place to be, especially if

1512
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:50,519
Speaker 1: you're spread out, um, you know, you go all the

1513
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 1: people that you know and and trying to keep things

1514
01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:56,479
Speaker 1: civil ass for sure. Yeah, I mean it's very similar

1515
01:16:56,479 --> 01:17:00,320
Speaker 1: to being quarantine. Yeah, you want to avoid p bowl,

1516
01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:05,960
Speaker 1: fresh clean air, face mask all the same, you'll feel

1517
01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:08,720
Speaker 1: right at home. So good man, this fires me up.

1518
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:12,160
Speaker 1: I just telling that story that was the best turkey

1519
01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 1: and I had last year, and uh that was Turkey

1520
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:18,080
Speaker 1: number I think five in the in the run of

1521
01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:20,599
Speaker 1: trying to get to ten, I'm never gonna I just

1522
01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:23,880
Speaker 1: resigned to to never ever get into my tent. But

1523
01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:27,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep trying. My God, yeah, I kicking dream right,

1524
01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:29,800
Speaker 1: And I think I'm on that same page now too.

1525
01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:32,280
Speaker 1: I just I think that there's such a good opportunity

1526
01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:34,280
Speaker 1: in the states that we were close to, you know,

1527
01:17:34,360 --> 01:17:37,120
Speaker 1: to make it happen. Um and in a good check

1528
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:40,400
Speaker 1: of time too, which is cool. Pink Man will make

1529
01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:43,200
Speaker 1: it happen. Yeah, I mean listen, you guys, listen to this.

1530
01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:47,040
Speaker 1: If you're in the West or you're not, Um, there's

1531
01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:49,479
Speaker 1: no matter where you are and you're not too far away,

1532
01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:54,160
Speaker 1: you know, road trip wise from a really accessible states. Um.

1533
01:17:54,200 --> 01:17:55,640
Speaker 1: You know, I've had a few you know, you and

1534
01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:58,920
Speaker 1: I both had some trips canceled because of quarantine. But

1535
01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:06,760
Speaker 1: you know, Nebraska, South Dakota, Um, of course, Montana, Colorado

1536
01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:10,240
Speaker 1: is really good. Over the counter, Oregon, Washington has some

1537
01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:13,760
Speaker 1: really good public lands and things. Um. So for me,

1538
01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:16,640
Speaker 1: I'm just exploring. That's none of my second spring up

1539
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:19,840
Speaker 1: here in Montana but man, there is a wealth of

1540
01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:24,519
Speaker 1: access and opportunity for for game that you're probably just

1541
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:26,720
Speaker 1: not gonna see with other big game animals. So if

1542
01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:28,720
Speaker 1: you want to learn some country and drop some way

1543
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:31,760
Speaker 1: points and some and some good spots and get some

1544
01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:34,200
Speaker 1: good table fair and and have a damn good time

1545
01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:37,880
Speaker 1: in the spring. Yeah, we were told, we were telling

1546
01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:40,799
Speaker 1: cal and I were telling stories last week about Texas

1547
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:44,439
Speaker 1: being just a mean mother at this time. You know,

1548
01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:47,519
Speaker 1: you've got rattlesnakes and ticks and chiggers, and you come

1549
01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:50,920
Speaker 1: out of there just torn to hell. Um. One of

1550
01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:53,439
Speaker 1: the beautiful parts about the West as you generally don't have.

1551
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:55,800
Speaker 1: There's some of that, but it's not nearly as mean

1552
01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:59,080
Speaker 1: as my the landscape down there in the Lone Star State,

1553
01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:01,600
Speaker 1: that's for sure. Yeah, that's true. And I think just

1554
01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:03,720
Speaker 1: being able to be outside in the springtime is a

1555
01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:06,080
Speaker 1: good sort of shake the dust off, get things rolling

1556
01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:08,439
Speaker 1: for the fall. And I use it as a good

1557
01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:10,639
Speaker 1: time to kind of get my skill set back up,

1558
01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:13,280
Speaker 1: you know, and and spend some time in the woods

1559
01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:15,519
Speaker 1: and and seeing the sun come up and the sun

1560
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:17,960
Speaker 1: go down in a new way. And that's kind of

1561
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:20,120
Speaker 1: what I look forward to, is just as as being

1562
01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:22,760
Speaker 1: outside and and uh sort of taking it all in

1563
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:24,800
Speaker 1: again and kind of getting geared up for the for

1564
01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:26,080
Speaker 1: the year to come. You know, it's kind of our

1565
01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:30,960
Speaker 1: kickoff time. Yeah, that's that's right. Yeah. So go, as

1566
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:33,879
Speaker 1: Kevin was saying at the outset, go apply for some tags.

1567
01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:37,720
Speaker 1: Go um playing hunts. You can do so much eat

1568
01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:40,519
Speaker 1: scouting now, the great applications out there like ONYX and

1569
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:43,400
Speaker 1: many others. There's a bunch of stuff you can be doing.

1570
01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:46,120
Speaker 1: And uh, it's to be a shame if if you

1571
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:48,799
Speaker 1: just kind of sit around and watch the news and

1572
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:53,360
Speaker 1: and fall face first into whatever that results, and which

1573
01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:55,280
Speaker 1: in a in a lot of ways is probably depression

1574
01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:58,720
Speaker 1: and fear and anxiety, all those things that are understandable

1575
01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:01,200
Speaker 1: but but not necessarily how helpful in a time like this.

1576
01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:05,320
Speaker 1: So um turkey hunting, baby, that's all I care about.

1577
01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:08,080
Speaker 1: I gotta get Have you read Colonel Tom Kelly's I

1578
01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:10,320
Speaker 1: Do This with Everybody? Have you read Colonel Tom Kelly's

1579
01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:13,160
Speaker 1: The Tenth Legion? No, I have it. I'm gonna read

1580
01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:15,720
Speaker 1: it though, all right, I'm gonna get you. I'll get

1581
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:18,640
Speaker 1: you a copy somehow. I'll get you a copy in

1582
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:21,120
Speaker 1: the mail. Because you gotta read it and then let

1583
01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:25,800
Speaker 1: that be your tradition every every Turkey season. Um, you'll

1584
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:29,160
Speaker 1: love the book. Yeah, you'll love what it like, how

1585
01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:31,040
Speaker 1: it makes you feel as a turkey hunder. I wish

1586
01:20:31,080 --> 01:20:34,879
Speaker 1: you know that l Hunting had a similar like totem,

1587
01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:38,879
Speaker 1: a similar thing that that made me feel ready and prepared,

1588
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:42,040
Speaker 1: and I could read it a thousand times. So, um,

1589
01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:43,840
Speaker 1: I'll put you put in the mail something for you

1590
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:47,479
Speaker 1: from from Colonel Tom. Yeah, I'll find you an outcome

1591
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:50,000
Speaker 1: book too. There they're out there. Yeah, I know, I

1592
01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:52,680
Speaker 1: know there's plenty. It's plenty. I just don't I'd love

1593
01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:56,240
Speaker 1: to be Yeah, something I'd love to be introduced to

1594
01:20:56,280 --> 01:20:58,240
Speaker 1: one that kind of feels the way that that tenth

1595
01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:01,559
Speaker 1: Legion feels. I'm ready for it. If it's out there, perfect,

1596
01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:04,839
Speaker 1: I'll get you one, all right, brother, I appreciate everything.

1597
01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:07,559
Speaker 1: Do you stay stage down there and hopefully I'll see

1598
01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:11,000
Speaker 1: you sometime down in Idaho for turkeys or some damn thing.

1599
01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:14,559
Speaker 1: Yeah that's right, man. Well, everybody get outside and enjoy

1600
01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:18,080
Speaker 1: that beautiful spring weather and and stay safe out there too. Yeah,

1601
01:21:18,120 --> 01:21:20,360
Speaker 1: a lot of beautiful things coming from first first light.

1602
01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:23,040
Speaker 1: You know, be checking social You guys have been doing

1603
01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:25,679
Speaker 1: a lot of good Q and a um it's the stories,

1604
01:21:26,120 --> 01:21:28,280
Speaker 1: a lot of good new new gear coming out. So

1605
01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:30,479
Speaker 1: if you want to be distracted to go serve their

1606
01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:33,679
Speaker 1: website and just click and look at the new stuff

1607
01:21:33,720 --> 01:21:36,240
Speaker 1: and and the systems and just go and hang out,

1608
01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:39,120
Speaker 1: um and think about hunting first light. That cop is

1609
01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:41,639
Speaker 1: not a bad place to go do that. Yeah, for sure.

1610
01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:43,519
Speaker 1: We've got some great turkey kits up right now too,

1611
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:44,880
Speaker 1: if you're starting to think about that as well as

1612
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:47,280
Speaker 1: spring bear Um we'll be coming in the next couple

1613
01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:49,960
Speaker 1: of weeks, so check that out. And UH, as always,

1614
01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:51,760
Speaker 1: if people have any other question, shoot me a note

1615
01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:54,120
Speaker 1: either on Instagram or however you want to get a

1616
01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:56,519
Speaker 1: hold of me um and I'm happy to help. He'll

1617
01:21:56,960 --> 01:21:59,000
Speaker 1: get you set up and ready to go. This spring

1618
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:02,400
Speaker 1: be aful. Oh yeah, and I also, UM, I gotta

1619
01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:04,920
Speaker 1: tell you we're doing the Great hand Turkey Contest. We're

1620
01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:09,000
Speaker 1: trying to get a thousands hand drawn turkeys to celebrate

1621
01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:13,000
Speaker 1: the season, to get everybody distracted in a silly ass

1622
01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:15,080
Speaker 1: way that I normally do. So I already promised that

1623
01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:18,760
Speaker 1: you'd give away a jacket to the winner. Do that

1624
01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:22,880
Speaker 1: and then I was screen print the hand turkey drawing

1625
01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:26,600
Speaker 1: on the back like Rockies Italian leather jack with the

1626
01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:30,000
Speaker 1: tiger on the back. So I promised that a way

1627
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:32,040
Speaker 1: without asking you, but I figured it was okay, we

1628
01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:35,320
Speaker 1: can do that. We're on good terms, me and Betty.

1629
01:22:35,439 --> 01:22:37,799
Speaker 1: All Right, buddy, you go out there and do something outside.

1630
01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:48,479
Speaker 1: I'll see soon. Sounds good things, ben beautiful, nice fell

1631
01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:53,040
Speaker 1: Are you keep going him? Stand by one second? Yep?

1632
01:22:53,760 --> 01:23:00,559
Speaker 1: Do I need to be here anymore for effect? All right?

1633
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:02,439
Speaker 1: I appreciate it, but I gotta jump on another caller

1634
01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:04,960
Speaker 1: real quick. Alright, go do it, man, I'll talk to

1635
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:07,880
Speaker 1: you soon. Okay, thanks, but appreciate it, all right, Be

1636
01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:23,400
Speaker 1: well bye. That's it. That's all another episode in the books.

1637
01:23:23,479 --> 01:23:26,400
Speaker 1: Thank you to Kevin Harland, and thanks to everybody first

1638
01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:28,800
Speaker 1: Light in fact for being a big part of this

1639
01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:30,880
Speaker 1: show and a big part of what we do. So

1640
01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:34,200
Speaker 1: if you want to check out some new gear, head

1641
01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:36,360
Speaker 1: over to first light dot com. They didn't ask me

1642
01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:37,880
Speaker 1: to tell you this, but I tell you this anyway

1643
01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:40,479
Speaker 1: because I think you should go to first light dot com.

1644
01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:45,120
Speaker 1: New Guidelike shorts are there, the new Ridgeline cors It

1645
01:23:45,439 --> 01:23:48,320
Speaker 1: pull over is there A bunch of brand new stuff

1646
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:50,360
Speaker 1: is there for you to check out, so so go

1647
01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 1: do it. UM, I would actually suggest why are there?

1648
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:56,479
Speaker 1: The Ranger snapshirt is one of my favorites. The word

1649
01:23:56,520 --> 01:23:58,720
Speaker 1: all the time, a lot of compliments. When we get

1650
01:23:58,720 --> 01:24:01,759
Speaker 1: back to airports, it's something gonna want to be whearing

1651
01:24:02,120 --> 01:24:06,880
Speaker 1: while you're mobile. So again, another great show. Back to

1652
01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:12,160
Speaker 1: the tomorrow Tuesday with another hunting story, another guest, somebody

1653
01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:14,320
Speaker 1: else cooled on my life. We're stacking up the guests

1654
01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:16,439
Speaker 1: for this week. We're gonna have Steve Ronella on the show,

1655
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:19,040
Speaker 1: Yanni patel Us, hopefully if we can pull him out

1656
01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:21,120
Speaker 1: of the mountains and get a microphone in front of

1657
01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:23,800
Speaker 1: his face. A bunch of other people have reached out

1658
01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:26,240
Speaker 1: to me actually and asked to be on the daily

1659
01:24:26,280 --> 01:24:29,760
Speaker 1: Quarantine cast, which I really appreciate. UM. Thank you so

1660
01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:34,480
Speaker 1: much to everyone for for the kind words. When UM,

1661
01:24:34,520 --> 01:24:36,439
Speaker 1: I read some of these emails and some of these

1662
01:24:36,439 --> 01:24:41,879
Speaker 1: messages that you guys all send, it really makes a difference, UM,

1663
01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:44,760
Speaker 1: in my life. So if if sorry gonna get a

1664
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:48,679
Speaker 1: little emotional on you guys. If um, if this show

1665
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:53,640
Speaker 1: is helping you, this show is making you laugh or

1666
01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:57,479
Speaker 1: think or just get your mind off whatever it is

1667
01:24:57,600 --> 01:25:01,760
Speaker 1: it's going on in your life. UM. I'm thankful to

1668
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:05,240
Speaker 1: have you, and I'm thankful that that we can have

1669
01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:10,320
Speaker 1: whatever weird podcast related relationship we can have. UM. I

1670
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:17,360
Speaker 1: do genuinely care about everybody out there. I hope you're well. UM.

1671
01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:19,400
Speaker 1: I hope you're having a good time, hope your smile,

1672
01:25:19,439 --> 01:25:22,479
Speaker 1: and hope you're getting outside. UM. I hope you're cooking.

1673
01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:24,880
Speaker 1: I hope you're playing with your kids. I hope you're

1674
01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:28,280
Speaker 1: reading books. All the things that can just keep us

1675
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:33,719
Speaker 1: level during UM. What is as we've talked about, strange times.

1676
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:36,680
Speaker 1: So we will see you tomorrow morning as we keep

1677
01:25:36,720 --> 01:25:41,360
Speaker 1: rolling on on the Quarantine Cast. Good Bye. The Hunting

1678
01:25:41,400 --> 01:25:43,559
Speaker 1: Collective with Ben O'Brien is a part of the Meat

1679
01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:46,720
Speaker 1: Eater podcast network. It is produced by Karne Schneider and

1680
01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:50,800
Speaker 1: engineered by Phil Taylor. You can find it on iTunes, Stitcher, Spotify,

1681
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