1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,240 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm George Ori, and welcome to the new I 2 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Coast to Coast A Paranormal podcast network. 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: Like us on Facebook, Tell your friends and share us 4 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: with everyone. This is an exciting new network that will 5 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: feature podcasts of the paranormal, supernatural, and the unexplained. Now, 6 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: please sit back and enjoy Dark Becomes Light with Heidi Hollis. 7 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: The thoughts and opinions expressed by the host our thoughts 8 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: and opinions only, and do not necessarily reflect those of 9 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: I Heart Media, I Heart Radio, Coast to Coast A 10 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: out employees of premier networks or their sponsors and associates. 11 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: You are encouraged to do the proper amount of research yourself, 12 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: depending on the subject matter and your needs. You are 13 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: listening too. Dark Becomes Light with Me, Heidi Hollis on 14 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal 15 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 1: Podcast Network. Welcome to my show. Remember each week, this 16 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: is the place you go to to find better understanding 17 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: about whatever it is that you're experiencing that's out of 18 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: the ordinary. I don't care if it's angels, aliens, bigfoot, 19 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: shadow people, hat man, or just odd dreams. I mean 20 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: I want this to be the place that you go 21 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 1: to to vent share, if you want insight, some help. 22 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: This is what it's all about. This is how we 23 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: bring the paranormal world in a little bit closer and 24 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: to get a little bit more cozy, because like way 25 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: back in the day, we used to actually go to meetings. 26 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: I think there's still some going on out there. I 27 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: ran a group for fifteen years on UFOs, Aliens and 28 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: the Paranormal. I mean it was awesome. I held it 29 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: at the local library and everybody was welcome, and you know, 30 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: I think it was really exciting because people go into 31 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: the library and they'd see I'd have this little sign 32 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: on the door, you know, UFO meeting going on. If 33 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: you'd like to join us, just let us know, and 34 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 1: they pop in. And those were some of the most 35 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: intriguing conversations I have ever had, where those spontaneous, curious 36 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: minded people. And uh, first I want to tell you guys, 37 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: you gotta go to shadow Folks dot com or Heidi 38 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: Hollis dot com. If you have experienced something out of 39 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: the ordinary and you want to share, that's where you 40 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: go to submit it right through there and make it 41 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: as long as you want. If you're a curious minded 42 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: person and you just want to learn, so be it. 43 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: I want this to be like those people that want 44 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: are into a meeting. I missed those days, I really do, 45 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: and why those meetings ended for me as I moved away. 46 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: I was living in Wisconsin at the time, and uh, 47 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 1: and I jumped over to Australia. I jumped over here, 48 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 1: I jumped over there. So yeah, it got a little 49 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: bit hard to do that. And it's a shame. I 50 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: really do miss that community because that's how we solved problems. 51 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: That's where we got things off our chest. We didn't 52 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: just sit there with this stuff. It was heavy. It 53 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: was heavy, and you know, I just literally got done 54 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: doing an interview with someone. And how can I put 55 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: it when somebody gives you an inspiring compliment that you 56 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: really didn't expect. And you know, but over the years, 57 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: people have said this to me, like you're you're still 58 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: casual in the way that you speak about your experiences. 59 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: You know how and why how did you get that way? 60 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: But kudos to you for doing that. And you know, 61 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: I guess it has a lot to do with having 62 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: grown up in a haunted house because my siblings and 63 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: I needed to vent. It wasn't a thing where it's like, 64 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: am I going to keep this to myself? No, you know, 65 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: you saw it, so let's talk about it. I mean, 66 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: we spoke, and whether we were super duper close or not. 67 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 1: One of my sisters I am one of them, I wasn't, 68 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: but I have a lot of siblings, but these two 69 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: in particular, I went through the paranormal with quite a 70 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: bit and uh and it's um, it was really helpful. 71 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: It was really healing to have that sounding board like that. 72 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: And I realized now that a lot of people just 73 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: do not. UM. I've realized it before at different levels, 74 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: but I guess starting from that basis of having those 75 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: siblings that I could turn to, that made a big difference. So, 76 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't pleasant. We didn't speak about this 77 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: stuff jokingly. It was stressful. It was spooky, it was scary. 78 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: We were kids wanting to be kids, and uh no, no, 79 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: something had to be scratching here or something moving over there. 80 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 1: Just seeing things just you know, it was not pleasant. 81 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: So now that I am able to talk as casually 82 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: as I do, I know sometimes people are like, is 83 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 1: she for real? I have heard that? Um, it's like, yeah, 84 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: for real, I just have learned to get over him. 85 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 1: I'm tired of living in fear. I have been tired 86 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: of living in fear of the paranormal for a long time, 87 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 1: and then I learned I don't have to put up 88 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: with it either. Uh. You know, a lot of people 89 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: are like, oh, oh, that's the that religious thing you 90 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 1: gotta do. I'm like, hold on, you know, we're talking 91 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: about dark stuff, and you know what side of the 92 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 1: fence that is on where it's a positive that could 93 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 1: probably take this on, because apparent lee, we don't do 94 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: so good always on our own taking on the paranormal. 95 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: If we can't bite it, taste it, snack on it, 96 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: punch it, kill it, it's uh, you know, gosh, what 97 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: do we do? How do we fight fire with fire 98 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: if we don't believe in the fire? You know? So 99 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: um yeah, So it's something that it's a process to 100 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: be able to understand this other world. I know, I know, 101 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 1: it's it's a you know, and I take these things serious. 102 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: I do keep more lighthearted than most. And apparently it's 103 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 1: because well, hey, I have had a life of experiences 104 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: and I didn't let it get me down. I didn't 105 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: let it get me down. I sure I had nightmare, 106 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: Sure I slip put the light on. Sure you know 107 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: I would throw all those stages, you know, and some 108 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: of them I still keep. I always have a light 109 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 1: within the view when I'm sleeping at night. It helps 110 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 1: me to better see what's coming at me personally. And 111 00:06:57,960 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: I also know that these dark things do not like 112 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: the light, so heck, yes, I'm going to keep it on. 113 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: It's very helpful. Um. But yeah, so I get it, though, Um, 114 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,679 Speaker 1: not everybody's at that stage, and a lot of people 115 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: are still at that fair stage and bawling their eyes out, 116 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: just getting sick, getting pulled upon, um, you know, and 117 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: people like, how come you're able to talk on the 118 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: devil and these demons? And I'm just like, look, I 119 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: mean we do go through these stages, and I went 120 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: through them. Um, but I do have a larger than 121 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: normal sense of humor. Um. I don't know how better 122 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: to put it. So I have learned to, uh, you know, 123 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: keep that within reach. And one thing evil hates his joy, 124 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: okay really hates it. And they have ego too. They 125 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: have ego. Think about that, What does ego need to 126 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: be fed? Right? They need to eat, I'm not giving 127 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: it to him really ticks them off. So UM that's uh, 128 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: let's keep ticking them off together, shall we. It can 129 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: be done, so why not? Um? So, And it's not 130 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: quite thumbing your nose at the devil, but then it 131 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: kind of is. And when things pick up an activity, 132 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: I kind of take it as a compliment. People tell 133 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: me after I reached out to you, this stuff got 134 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: really horrible. I'm like, oh, how about that. It's scared 135 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: and it knew who I was. Wonderful. Um, you know, no, 136 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 1: I don't want this stuff coming at me. It's no fun. 137 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: I don't like it. Um, but it does let me 138 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: know when they try to really really convince you that 139 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: they're the big bad wolf coming to get you, which 140 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: they are. Um. That couldn't be light about that because 141 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: it's so true. Um, when they start shaking in their 142 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: boots trying to get really active, like before you learn 143 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,599 Speaker 1: the method to get rid of this stuff, that is 144 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 1: a good sign because they know their time is limited. 145 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: So you guys, we have to learn to find that 146 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: power within, find the fire to throw at this fire. 147 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: For me, that's God, That's the only thing I know 148 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 1: that works for me. Um. I don't know if it's 149 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: something else that works for other people. Baseball bat, I 150 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: don't know of that to work, So um, I'll stay biased. Um, 151 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: and let's just do that, okay, because man, if we 152 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 1: are not picking each other up, what's going to happen. 153 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: It's kind of like if you're playing ring around the rosie. 154 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 1: Do you remember that game where you hold hands and 155 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: you're running a circle and when you know, ashes ashes, 156 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: we all fall down and one falls down and everybody 157 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: kind of falls with them. That happens because guess what, 158 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: the reson that fell down lives in your house and 159 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: they're in a horrible mood, and they're gonna put you 160 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: in a terrible mood. And then you're going to share 161 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: that crappy mood with your children who fail in school, 162 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: who don't excel in life, who get depressed, who start 163 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: doing different things too, drown their tears and their fears. 164 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: I mean, it is a contagion. We all know this, 165 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: and we got to figure this out. We have to. 166 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: So don't let people fall down and just be like, well, 167 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: he made wrong choices. Mr Wrong choices is going to 168 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:41,959 Speaker 1: put his bad mojo on you. So no, we can't 169 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: just let people fall and uh, I know folks are 170 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: in this whole speel of well the world sucks right now, 171 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 1: hope it ends well. There's too many people that were 172 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: gonna lose if it's going to end. And what I 173 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: mean by lose, it's like we go somewhere right this 174 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: inner self of us? Where is it going? Where is 175 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: it going? Is it going to the positive side or 176 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: the negative side? Is there a positive is there negative side? 177 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: Some people would argue one way or the other. Um, 178 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: but do you really think somebody who is a horrible 179 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: individual or just a mean person, it's just always in 180 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: a stinky mood. Do you think they're going to die 181 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: and just like grow wings? I mean, just keep it 182 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 1: real sudden, Mr grumpy pants. It's just oh, thank god, 183 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: I just was waiting for this moment. I think there 184 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: are levels. There has to be different levels of understanding 185 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: when we cross over. It's not just all roses and 186 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: uh yeah, so let's uh let's take that in for 187 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: a minute, and let's understand that we should get ourselves 188 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: right over here before we go right over there and 189 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: uh not, heal not do well. And if we're falling 190 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: down here, I think we're going to fall down over there. 191 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: So and if you're being influenced here, those influences don't 192 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: just change. I crossed over. I'm good now, really, really, 193 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: come on, there's a pattern. You have to fix these things. 194 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: But you know what, I'm going to get into some 195 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: of your emails here. It's gonna be interesting. And again 196 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 1: I usually just wing it and just read right through 197 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: it and just figure it out and sound it out 198 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: as we go over on, because that makes it more fun. 199 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: But if I stall their swear words or something or 200 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: a really bad misspelling or missing words, so pardon me, 201 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: but these are my most favorite shows. I like hearing 202 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 1: what's going on out there and if I can give 203 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 1: some insight. So stick around you guys. You are listening 204 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: to dark it comes light with me. 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And just 255 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: before the break, I mentioned how we are going to 256 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: be diving into some of the emails that have been 257 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: sent in, and wow, there are quite a few, and 258 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Keep them coming in and I will 259 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: keep going through them. I will eventually get to them. 260 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: So don't worry. I have faith to see alright. So 261 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: this first one, this comes to us from Michelle and 262 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: it says I didn't encounter with this evil entity the 263 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: winter of that would forever change my life three years later. 264 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: I personally felt that it was an omen. I didn't 265 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: know it then, but I know it now. I was 266 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: up and heading out to warm up my car around 267 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 1: five thirty am. And now that's a horror story. Five. 268 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. I sat in my car, turned on 269 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: my heater, and through my peripheral vision I saw a tall, 270 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: slender shadow figure with a trench coat, big hat standing 271 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: there behind my neighbor's car in her driveway. Let me 272 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: know who that is, right? I couldn't make out a face, 273 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:40,199 Speaker 1: but I knew he was staring at me without seeing 274 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: his face. I felt so terrified that I ran back 275 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 1: inside and I was freaking out. I was due at 276 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: work before six am, but I couldn't bring myself to 277 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: go right back out there. You see that that that's 278 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 1: like a fear that you just can't really express to people. 279 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: But that's generally the hat man guy I'm talking about. 280 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: But anyways, continuing, when I tell you I was consumed 281 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: by fear. It made me feel nauseous. I just remember 282 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 1: praying to God to please make whatever that was just 283 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:23,120 Speaker 1: go away. I've never prayed so hard in my life, 284 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: but my faith fueled me to head right out and 285 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: get going. Oh my goodness, I'm glad that this person, Michelle, 286 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: that she actually reverted to her faith. A lot of people, 287 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: I don't know, it seems to not always be the 288 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: first thing that comes to mind. But notice that fear 289 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: of life or death, I mean, the worst ever. Imagine 290 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 1: that having that every night, as some people do. Okay, 291 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:54,199 Speaker 1: but to continue, I walked out and thank goodness, he 292 00:18:54,400 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: was gone. But I never forgot about that encounter. I 293 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 1: Google searched to no avail until I searched Facebook. I 294 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 1: thought I was losing my mind. Fast forward to I 295 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: was single up until September of twenty nineteen. My boyfriend 296 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: at the time was having sleep paralysis, dreaming of something 297 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: dark and evil trying to take him into his closet 298 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: at his house. He described to me a tall, dark 299 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: man in a coat and hat standing over him and 300 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 1: felt pressure on his chest to where he couldn't breathe. 301 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: It was taking a toll on him. That he hated 302 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: sleeping at his house. Thanksgiving Day was the day that 303 00:19:55,000 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 1: would change my life. I remember that he seemed angry, 304 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,199 Speaker 1: ticked off at the world and lashing out at me. 305 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: That he came to my house in a jealous rage, 306 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 1: snatch my phone and wallet and told me if I 307 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: wanted it, to come and get it at his house. 308 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: That's disturbing. I knew I shouldn't have gone, but I 309 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: needed my things, And as soon as I pulled up, 310 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 1: he was smiling and acting like he was happy to 311 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: see me. But as soon as he opened my truck door, 312 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: he proceeds to tell me you left up by coming here, 313 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 1: you're about to die. Oh my gosh. He snatches my 314 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: keys for my ignition, pulls me out by my hair. 315 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, Oh my goodness, Oh my goodness, I 316 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 1: have goose bumps. This is horrible. And he puts me 317 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: in the passenger seat. He gets in the driver's seat 318 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: and yanks my rosaries I had on my rear view mirror, 319 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: and as I reached for them from his hands, I 320 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: remember him looking at the broken rosaries and I was 321 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: going to try and salvage them because they had sentimental 322 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: value to me. My grandmother, who passed away from aesophageal 323 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: cancer in twenty eleven, gave them to me. Ah. Anyways, 324 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 1: I looked into his eyes and they were black. Ah. Okay, 325 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: got chilse again. I'll never forget that. And he pulls 326 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: my hair back. Oh no, And he shoved a forty 327 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: five caliber to my chin. Was so much force my 328 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 1: chin swelled up and my mouth was bleeding from me 329 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 1: biting my tongue. H this is a lot. This was 330 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: all at his house where he had seen the hat man. 331 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 1: I was held captive from two pm until eight thirty 332 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: pm from him threatening to kill me or shooting himself 333 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:22,199 Speaker 1: in front of me. I'm not a churchgoing person, but 334 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: I believe in God and angels, and I prayed with 335 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 1: all my might and begged and pleaded that I didn't 336 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: want to die. God saved my life and the life 337 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: of my daughters as well that day because they went 338 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: to check on me and he pointed the guns to 339 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: their heads as well. Sadly, he was shot and passed away. 340 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: There's still an ongoing investigation, so can't say too much. 341 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: I will say this, though, that entity is death and 342 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: I still will find myself wondering if it was powerful 343 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: to possess because I swear he possessed my boyfriend. I'll 344 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 1: forever be traumatized. Oh my goodness. Hey guys, um wow, 345 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 1: believe it or not. That as horrible as that sounds, 346 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 1: as horrific as that is, and in my heart is 347 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 1: just bleeding for this person. Um that that scenario. I 348 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: don't believe that's a solo scenario. I have had others 349 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 1: who have said they got possessed by him. And what 350 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: is hat man trying to do to people? He tries 351 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 1: to convince them too and their lives or end other 352 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: people's lives, and it's so quick when he takes over. Now, 353 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, imagine this. I mean, I get these emails. 354 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,120 Speaker 1: I'm not kidding. I'm sitting here palming my face and 355 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: my chills are just all the way down, all the 356 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: way down all over, and um, I am just sitting 357 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: here knowing how people that get dragged like he was 358 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: afraid to be dragged into his closet. Hat Man trying 359 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: to pull him in the closet. So many people they're 360 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:33,719 Speaker 1: just like he reached in and he threw me and 361 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: it wasn't just me, it was my soul. And he's 362 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 1: trying to drag me into my closet. And it's like 363 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 1: why a closet, Like what is so horrifying? I mean, 364 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 1: it's just a little framing work, right, But when you 365 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: think about a closet, it's usually absent of light to 366 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: most of the day, right, And hat Man operates better 367 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 1: when he is isolated in the darkness. He likes to 368 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 1: blend then. But again, he wears the similar m O 369 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 1: with the hat and trench coat because he wants to 370 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: be recognized. He wants it to be known that it 371 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 1: is the same entity doing this to people all over 372 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: the globe. And look at this. Isn't there a movie 373 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 1: out the conjuring the Devil made me do it? Here 374 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 1: goes another scenario. Hat Man says, he's the devil and 375 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 1: like what he made this person do? Look at this, 376 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: Look what he made him do. We're assuming, right, but 377 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: you know what, oh gosh. As a therapist, I've had 378 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: very similar scenario painted out from patient and more than one, 379 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: and it's it's that flip and you hear the victim 380 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 1: talks about so so out of character, out of nowhere. 381 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 1: Here's somebody that never abused me tries to kill me unprovoked, unprovoked, 382 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: So what is that? What else could it have been? 383 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,360 Speaker 1: He just had a really bad day? What was it? 384 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 1: I mean, that makes no sense. I didn't read of 385 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 1: any former abuse here going on. You know, that's just 386 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: rather spontaneous. It's almost as if that person's soul was 387 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 1: dragged into the closet and Hatman took over because that's 388 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: what he does, and that's what people have been reporting. 389 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: Do you see why I sit here and do what 390 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: I'm doing and I've been doing for over twenty years now, 391 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: because people still need help. People still are not finding 392 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 1: this information out there. This person went searching on Facebook 393 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 1: and found me, and here we sit going, wow, how 394 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,679 Speaker 1: many more people have this happened to? And was warned, 395 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,719 Speaker 1: and I was told, and I wrote about this in 396 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 1: my book The Secret War, that this onslaught was going 397 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 1: to be getting worse. And you won't always know what 398 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: starts starts off as a rioter in the middle of 399 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:23,919 Speaker 1: a peaceful protest, or something like sad person being influenced poorly, 400 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: somebody that runs into a store and shoots it up. 401 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: Weren't intending on it, just had a great day, all 402 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: positive and cheery, and then goes and does something like that. 403 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: Like it leaves the surviving family members of that person 404 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 1: that did that going, well, that's not like them. Where 405 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: would they do that? Here you go, here you go. 406 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: This is how it happens. And I wish it weren't true. 407 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:54,120 Speaker 1: I wish it were uncommon, but it really isn't. And 408 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: we have to start paying attention. But there's no way 409 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: that this person would have been able to off this 410 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: out happening beforehand because it wasn't a pattern. I gotta 411 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: get on our toes and I want to speak to 412 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: something about what you said here in this letter as 413 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: well and address after the break you are listening to 414 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,919 Speaker 1: Dark Becomes Light with me. Heidie Hollis on the I 415 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Coast to coast am Paranormal podcast network. 416 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 1: We'll be right back. 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Just before the break, we had 454 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: a fascinating but devastating email from someone who experienced hat 455 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: Man and their boyfriend experienced. Hat Man too kept trying 456 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,959 Speaker 1: to rip them and throw them into their closet. And 457 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: of course hat Man would dig dark closets where light 458 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: is absent a lot of the time, so he can 459 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 1: really grow strong there. Of course, he doesn't just live 460 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: in the closet. It's more like a portal. It's a 461 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: lot easier to go through an area that doesn't get 462 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: a whole lot of light shed back there. But it's 463 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: just so so so sad, so very sad to this story. 464 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: It just breaks my heart because again, how many how 465 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,959 Speaker 1: many people has this happened to, and I've witnessed it, 466 00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: and it's it's just, um, it's not easy. It really 467 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: isn't to be that person who acts out of the ordinary. 468 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 1: It could be just arguments, could be suddenly getting physical 469 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: with a relationship, and it's not like them. I mean, 470 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 1: here's somebody that just reacts out of nowhere and created 471 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 1: such harm, absolute harm that will terrorize the family. And 472 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 1: this person that wrote me forever. But there's something that 473 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: you mentioned here that I wanted to be sure I addressed. 474 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: You mentioned that you don't go to church, as if 475 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: that would cause you harm. You put, I'm not a 476 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: churchgoing person. But I believe in God and angels, and 477 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 1: I prayed with all my might and begged and pleaded 478 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 1: that I didn't want to die. I understand that there's 479 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: this notion out there that somehow faith belongs in a building, 480 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 1: and it shows that you're more faithful because you keep 481 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 1: going to that building. It's great to have community. I mean, 482 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 1: how else do we learn about faith? Is h you're 483 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: not coming together like that. But I don't believe it 484 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 1: makes us any weaker to sit outside of that building 485 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: and hold tightly to your faith. I think we definitely 486 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: are stronger in numbers and having a common thread of faith. 487 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: I think that is uh. You know, it could be 488 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: reached across the internet too, and we build that faith 489 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: talking to our friends, talking to our family. So it's okay, 490 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 1: don't doubt that any element of your faith is weaker 491 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: because of that. So I just want to say that 492 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 1: I don't I don't attend church. I am very faithful, 493 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: you know, um. So I just don't want people to 494 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 1: feel like, in the face of hat man or shadow 495 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: people or other demonic things, that there is a problem 496 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: because you haven't been going to church. I think your 497 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 1: faith is very much like muscle, that it's good to 498 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: exercise it so it doesn't atrophy and get stiff and 499 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: then you forget how to use it or it feels weaker. 500 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 1: Because those moments like what you experience your boy, you 501 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,919 Speaker 1: better believe those are like fine wine prayers right when 502 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,959 Speaker 1: you really need it. It's like you're about to get 503 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,919 Speaker 1: harmed or killed and it's like, hey, you know, hey, God, 504 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 1: please please, but let's let's keep that relationship open. I 505 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: think that's so very important, and it's something I might 506 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 1: have brushed upon here on this program. I had um 507 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 1: actually recently been on Coast to Coast and uh I 508 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,879 Speaker 1: shared about one of my books called Picture Prayers and 509 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 1: what that was based on an encounter I had with 510 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 1: some angels that showed me a different way of praying. 511 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 1: So now, for me, prayer is not something that takes 512 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: time because it happens all the time. So it's more 513 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 1: become a conversation, constant connection with God. And I feel 514 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 1: very fortunate that I got shown this method because I 515 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 1: was I was very uh, my my muscle, my muscles 516 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 1: for prayer were atrophied because I was bored with them. 517 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, I can't pray like that guy at the 518 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 1: front of the church. I can't pray like this and 519 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 1: you know, and I would fall asleep in the middle 520 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 1: of it. And then I found out that prayers didn't 521 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:35,840 Speaker 1: need words necessarily, but images and what we felt about 522 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 1: what we are experiencing. So I think sometimes we need 523 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,280 Speaker 1: to expand our thoughts and the way that we approach 524 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 1: our beliefs and you know, and not be so hard 525 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: on ourselves. Fully, because we are flawed, we are flatted everything. 526 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 1: But the one place we can't be flawed in is 527 00:35:55,560 --> 00:36:00,359 Speaker 1: our faith. Sure we can, Sure we can. And so 528 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,359 Speaker 1: I welcome people go to the other F word dot 529 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 1: com f as in frank or faith. So so I 530 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,399 Speaker 1: did a couple of books. I'm a cartoonists and I 531 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 1: wrote I Get this. I wrote a kid's book, kind 532 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 1: of done and diary of a wimpy kid with the 533 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 1: notebook lines and have fun with it. And I put 534 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 1: it out there to the world hoping it would help kids. 535 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 1: And I didn't hear back from one kid, just just 536 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 1: adults telling me, Wow, this really helped me with my faith. 537 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 1: I mean, because we got to laugh at these things. 538 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: And so because I had so many adults writing back, 539 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,800 Speaker 1: I decided to do a book called The Other F Word, 540 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,360 Speaker 1: How to Find Faith and laugh at yourself while trying 541 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 1: and just looking at ourselves. You know, I'm just being like, 542 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 1: you know, what are I silly attempts towards being okay 543 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,439 Speaker 1: with it? Uh, and then how to get better at it. 544 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 1: And I had a lot of fun doing it, and 545 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 1: I've had some really cool feedback, and I hope it 546 00:36:56,040 --> 00:37:00,360 Speaker 1: helps guys out there. You guys out there too, better 547 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 1: understand how to look at it and it's it's okay. 548 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 1: And I just when we're facing demons, would really have 549 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 1: to figure this out because these things can go through walls. 550 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 1: It's not something that you could call the police on. 551 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,240 Speaker 1: So if you can't call the police, you call the priest. 552 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:25,920 Speaker 1: And then sometimes that doesn't work either because you have 553 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:31,279 Speaker 1: to go through certain levels of oppression and possession to 554 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 1: get their attention to really come out and help. Because 555 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 1: there are so many people dealing with this, so they're 556 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 1: kind of running thin on the help out there. So 557 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,879 Speaker 1: it's a it's important that we own up to our 558 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 1: faith and get this figured out for ourselves. It's so 559 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 1: very very important. Okay, So I want to thank you 560 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 1: for taking the time to write me. I know that 561 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,880 Speaker 1: had to be really difficult to express what had happened 562 00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 1: to you. And I think it's really impactful for others 563 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 1: to have heard your story, because my goodness, there's so 564 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 1: much that's going on out there that gets swept under 565 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 1: the rug. And and again, you know, here's a movie 566 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 1: coming out about how the devil made somebody do something, 567 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 1: and look at how possible that is. Look at how possible? 568 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 1: And what about rulers of ancient civilizations or today? What 569 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 1: influence are they under? Do we know? And does it 570 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:37,360 Speaker 1: always look so obvious like this last story? Really? I mean, okay, 571 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 1: so she saw an immediate change, but what if what 572 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 1: if the demonic being hat Man realizes, well I got 573 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 1: inside with this really powerful politician. I don't want him 574 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 1: to go and have a shootout with the cops. Oh no, no, no, 575 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 1: I want him to go to work. I want him 576 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 1: to go into his office and push a few buttons. 577 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,840 Speaker 1: Let's see what we can get done. Look at what 578 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 1: we're talking about here. So some of the horrible things 579 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,399 Speaker 1: that going in this world, We're like, why is God 580 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:15,280 Speaker 1: allowing this to happen? Well, it's not always so easily 581 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:19,400 Speaker 1: seen because they hide behind a desk in a tie, 582 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 1: and we just have to be wiser about what we're doing, 583 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,440 Speaker 1: who we're voting in. But guess what you vote in 584 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,399 Speaker 1: for one and vote for the other. And they all 585 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 1: work for the same evil so or they could get 586 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:35,800 Speaker 1: possessed down the road. So we just we are always 587 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 1: going to be in this uh give and take battle, right, 588 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:44,800 Speaker 1: and we just gotta protect ourselves and keep our minds 589 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:48,719 Speaker 1: and souls on the up and up, because it's I mean, 590 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 1: it's as big and as bad as you can imagine. 591 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 1: Let's put it that way, as big and as bad 592 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 1: you could think it, it can happen. Um, it's just terrible. 593 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 1: But key your focus on the light and things will 594 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,440 Speaker 1: get better, all right. So I'm going to move on 595 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,440 Speaker 1: to the next email. That's sorry, that took a bit, 596 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,840 Speaker 1: but it's it was worth it, I think, right. Everybody 597 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:17,920 Speaker 1: shaking their heads. It's nobody here, So okay, all right, 598 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,480 Speaker 1: This one says dear Heidi. I just found and read 599 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:26,799 Speaker 1: your book The Secret War. It's reassuring to know there 600 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,720 Speaker 1: are others who think like I do. I cleansed my home, pets, 601 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:34,279 Speaker 1: and property regularly with sage and holy water. I was 602 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 1: surprised and pleased to read that in your book at 603 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 1: the end as well. I'm recently retired last year from 604 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 1: a government position, and I've worked in law enforcement in 605 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 1: some manner since I was eighteen, military and civilian. I'm 606 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:54,839 Speaker 1: trying to get guidance from my guides. Hopefully that will come. 607 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,760 Speaker 1: Do you speak with the being from your book named Calf? 608 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 1: This book was written quite a while ago. Do you 609 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 1: have plans for an updated one? Thank you and Calf 610 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 1: for inspiring and writing this book. Your book is still 611 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 1: out there on kinda land and still being read. The 612 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 1: battle between good and evil is evident more than ever. 613 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:23,360 Speaker 1: I certainly see it. I just hope I can convince 614 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:27,799 Speaker 1: others as you are doing so well. Again, thank you, 615 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 1: and I plan on reading your book. Jesus is no joke. Next, 616 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:38,400 Speaker 1: take care, Terry. Wow, I mean Osley got tears in 617 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:42,919 Speaker 1: my eyes. That's that's just beautiful. I mean, wow, oh 618 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,759 Speaker 1: my goodness. You know, you you just never know, you 619 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,320 Speaker 1: just never know, you know, even after all these years 620 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 1: of having put that book out, Um, I wrote it, 621 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:58,759 Speaker 1: n and you just hope that that it reaches the 622 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 1: right people. And we just we just don't know what 623 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 1: our actions. 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And more often than not, 684 00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:01,719 Speaker 1: I don't often read these emails before I come here 685 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:06,319 Speaker 1: and just start podcasting about it. So this surprised me 686 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:10,400 Speaker 1: and it literally brought me to tears so and it's 687 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,840 Speaker 1: it's just so sweet, so kind, and based on my 688 00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,000 Speaker 1: book The Secret War. It was the first book I 689 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:20,560 Speaker 1: wrote while in college in and it took me two 690 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:24,200 Speaker 1: months to write that book four years to finally get 691 00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:27,279 Speaker 1: it published. But it had done the rounds. Let me 692 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:31,440 Speaker 1: tell you, it had been to every UFO Alien researcher 693 00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:35,400 Speaker 1: author out there on the planet because they were the 694 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:39,160 Speaker 1: only ones that were publishing back then and such a book. 695 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:43,120 Speaker 1: So I did my best and only to finally get 696 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:49,960 Speaker 1: it put out there independently. And it's it's been amazing 697 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:53,640 Speaker 1: over the years to hear the feedback, but to have 698 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,839 Speaker 1: these many years and and still to get messages like 699 00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,640 Speaker 1: this that it really moves me because as I'm I 700 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,800 Speaker 1: wasn't a writer, I mean I was a student. I 701 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:09,239 Speaker 1: became a therapist, and I just felt so passionate, like 702 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,239 Speaker 1: I have to get this out there because of what 703 00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,960 Speaker 1: was going on at the time and the warning about 704 00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:17,160 Speaker 1: shadow people hat Man and um. I knew it would 705 00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,799 Speaker 1: be a struggle, but I just had to get it 706 00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:25,479 Speaker 1: put there. And you know, it's just grown into this 707 00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:29,759 Speaker 1: wonderful community of awareness, is the best way to put it, 708 00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:35,960 Speaker 1: because wow, um, yeah, But just to recap a little bit, 709 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:40,120 Speaker 1: so um, Terry reached out to say that here they 710 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:45,120 Speaker 1: were somebody in military and civilian law enforcement for quite 711 00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:49,799 Speaker 1: some time, and they're asking if I still speak to 712 00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:53,520 Speaker 1: the being named Calf that is mentioned in the book. 713 00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:59,480 Speaker 1: And Calf was a being that appeared to me and 714 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,399 Speaker 1: arted's speaking through my college friend. And this college friend 715 00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:07,840 Speaker 1: super religious, not not into these things at all. Uh. 716 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:12,080 Speaker 1: It's so hard to express how somebody could be so 717 00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,120 Speaker 1: anti such a topic. Um, but for those of us 718 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:19,280 Speaker 1: in these fields, you've had that static from friends and family, 719 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,280 Speaker 1: haven't you where it's like, what you know, are you nuts? 720 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,440 Speaker 1: Don't even bring that stuff up. So that's what I 721 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:28,280 Speaker 1: was dealing with. And to have this friend, um suddenly 722 00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,759 Speaker 1: have this connection with this being was mind blowing. And 723 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,560 Speaker 1: it proved itself because it showed itself as well. So 724 00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:40,880 Speaker 1: and it was mostly, you know, really just there for 725 00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:44,240 Speaker 1: asking the right questions because you know, asking about lottery 726 00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,560 Speaker 1: numbers and whatnot that wasn't going to happen. There was 727 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:52,440 Speaker 1: there was a certain angle that needed to be shared 728 00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,360 Speaker 1: and it was on the topic of shadow people and 729 00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:59,000 Speaker 1: hat man. UM, So do I speak to him? I 730 00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:02,479 Speaker 1: do not. I never her was a conduit. I guess 731 00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:06,040 Speaker 1: you could say to speak to him like that. Um, 732 00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:11,719 Speaker 1: my friend was and she actually backed away from the 733 00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:15,040 Speaker 1: whole topic. You'll never hear her out talking about this. 734 00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,440 Speaker 1: People who know me and that knew her, and they 735 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,600 Speaker 1: knew of her, they knew of her story she shared 736 00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:26,880 Speaker 1: in person. But she was we're college kids, and you know, 737 00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:30,200 Speaker 1: we graduate and we had careers. We wanted to start, 738 00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,600 Speaker 1: and she wanted to start a career and not have 739 00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,280 Speaker 1: the stigma of this topic. Like a lot of people, 740 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,080 Speaker 1: a lot of people in this field don't use their 741 00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:40,360 Speaker 1: real names. My name is really Heidi Hollis. Okay, it 742 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:44,640 Speaker 1: really is, UM. But yeah, you think because they're on 743 00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:46,799 Speaker 1: the air for a long period of time and that 744 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:48,920 Speaker 1: they're using their real names. A lot of them just 745 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,880 Speaker 1: don't because their families will get angry with them. There 746 00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:56,239 Speaker 1: are jobs that really make pay the bills, UM, and 747 00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,319 Speaker 1: that is not something that shined upon either to have 748 00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:03,879 Speaker 1: that in your resume. So yeah, some people that are 749 00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:07,719 Speaker 1: really working on these things and are out front really 750 00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,439 Speaker 1: have to kind of take a back seat. Um. So 751 00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:14,000 Speaker 1: that is what my friend had to do as well, 752 00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:18,440 Speaker 1: and she felt she'd done enough and the message was 753 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,840 Speaker 1: out and she took a step back. And I personally 754 00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:25,160 Speaker 1: don't know how to reach out to him in that 755 00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,799 Speaker 1: same manner. And you know that the message changed, It 756 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,879 Speaker 1: really did. So you are looking to read my book 757 00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:36,600 Speaker 1: called Jesus Is No Joke, which is about my journey. 758 00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:40,279 Speaker 1: Um wow. I mean I had seen a lot of 759 00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:44,520 Speaker 1: different things, okay, and uh I never expected to see Jesus. 760 00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:48,080 Speaker 1: I was a very big skeptic such a topic. I 761 00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,319 Speaker 1: thought he was a historical figure that had done his thing, 762 00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,080 Speaker 1: and yeah, he was going to come back one day, 763 00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,719 Speaker 1: and yes, I have my faith in God, but you know, 764 00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:58,359 Speaker 1: Jesus did a lot of wonderful stuff. But I just 765 00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:02,640 Speaker 1: couldn't imagine he was visiting people today. Um. So that's 766 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:06,360 Speaker 1: what the book is about. I saw him and uh wow, 767 00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,640 Speaker 1: it changed everything. And believe it or not, that book, 768 00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,600 Speaker 1: Jesus Is No Joke is my most highly rated book. 769 00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:15,400 Speaker 1: I mean I've got over a hundred reviews and I 770 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:19,839 Speaker 1: believe it's uh four point seven or four point eight 771 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:24,000 Speaker 1: star average. So it's shocked me. It shocked me, but 772 00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:27,040 Speaker 1: it was so needed to be put out there. And 773 00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:29,480 Speaker 1: I've been really proud of that book, but I was 774 00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,200 Speaker 1: not proud of the Secret War Book and the fashion 775 00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:35,040 Speaker 1: that I wrote it because I wasn't a writer. So 776 00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:38,000 Speaker 1: when people tell me they read it, I cringe because 777 00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,600 Speaker 1: I know it's not the best writing, but I'm happy 778 00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:44,399 Speaker 1: that the message got through. And uh, yeah, so it's 779 00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,760 Speaker 1: just it's a catch twenty two, so you're gonna see 780 00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:51,680 Speaker 1: my writing changed grew, I should say, quite a bit. Um. 781 00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:55,799 Speaker 1: And then you're yeah, that book was written quite a 782 00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,319 Speaker 1: long time ago, and if I had plans for an 783 00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,080 Speaker 1: updated one, the one that you read that is a 784 00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:06,520 Speaker 1: kindle version that actually is slightly updated. What I did 785 00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:10,440 Speaker 1: is I took some things out. Uh. And some people notice, 786 00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:12,760 Speaker 1: like because I reread the book and they're like, hey, 787 00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,680 Speaker 1: why is that gone? And I didn't want a weird 788 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,719 Speaker 1: people out any further than they needed to be as 789 00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,200 Speaker 1: long as the message got across, So I took some 790 00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,080 Speaker 1: things out, and I do need to put it back 791 00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,680 Speaker 1: in the print. Um. I have been saying that for 792 00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,960 Speaker 1: a while and people are like audiobook, Hello, get to 793 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:33,440 Speaker 1: the audiobooks. Why didn't you have that? Um? Because it's 794 00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,800 Speaker 1: still these are not popular topics, they say, though people 795 00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:40,839 Speaker 1: are making film and television off my stuff. Um oh 796 00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:44,560 Speaker 1: it's not popular. So but the publishers don't want that. Um, 797 00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,840 Speaker 1: so they have not knocking on my door. I have 798 00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:51,840 Speaker 1: self published most of my books and look it's changed 799 00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:56,080 Speaker 1: the world. But yeah, I'm not making the millions they 800 00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,839 Speaker 1: are and said to do an audio book. It's going 801 00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:00,759 Speaker 1: to be on my dime to do that, and I'll 802 00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:05,960 Speaker 1: have to definitely do that. Um. Sometimes people say, hey, 803 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:07,640 Speaker 1: why don't you do a go fund me or something, 804 00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:10,800 Speaker 1: and I'm like, perhaps I will at some point. Um, 805 00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,800 Speaker 1: but yeah, I do need to take it upon myself 806 00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:17,439 Speaker 1: to take that next step make an audio book and 807 00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:21,799 Speaker 1: also do another printed version of The Secret War. Um. 808 00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:23,400 Speaker 1: I took it out of print because it was with 809 00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:27,440 Speaker 1: a publisher that was like a co printing, like Printanda 810 00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:29,600 Speaker 1: mand type thing. That was the only way that I 811 00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,239 Speaker 1: could get it out there because you know, not popular enough. 812 00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:36,399 Speaker 1: But it is for film and television. Um so it's 813 00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:40,080 Speaker 1: just a crazy thing. So yeah, yeah, I see people 814 00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,719 Speaker 1: you're saying, your book is still out there in kind Land, 815 00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:46,680 Speaker 1: is still being read. I I just I'm just so 816 00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:50,839 Speaker 1: glad that it's it's helping. I'm really really thankful for that, 817 00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:56,240 Speaker 1: and um wow, it just takes my breath away. Um, 818 00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,640 Speaker 1: but I tell you so, Calf was a being that 819 00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:05,840 Speaker 1: really really gave a perspective that I just it never anticipated. 820 00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,000 Speaker 1: And when I say the message has changed, has changed 821 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:14,080 Speaker 1: to the point of being more relative to words and 822 00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,839 Speaker 1: phrases that people understand. Uh, you know, faith, Where did 823 00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:19,959 Speaker 1: faith come from? God? Where is the thought of God? 824 00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:24,760 Speaker 1: And miracles? And you know it ties into this alien 825 00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:29,280 Speaker 1: phenomenon and people don't think it always has a clear connection, 826 00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:32,560 Speaker 1: but there is a connection. There's a connection between shadow people, 827 00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:38,120 Speaker 1: hat Man, aliens, angels. If you could close your eyes 828 00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:42,680 Speaker 1: and they feel the same and their actions go the same, 829 00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:46,400 Speaker 1: it helps to clarify what exactly you're dealing with. And 830 00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,480 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you guys something. This is an announcement. 831 00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:51,560 Speaker 1: I am going to be part of Contact in the 832 00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:56,600 Speaker 1: Desert speaking exactly about this. So Contact in the Desert 833 00:54:56,680 --> 00:55:01,839 Speaker 1: as a conference and it's the world's largest alien UFO conference, 834 00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:05,279 Speaker 1: and I'm going to be speaking on shadow people, hat 835 00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:09,080 Speaker 1: Man and the alien connection and how I came across 836 00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:12,800 Speaker 1: all this with some cool visuals and of course, um, 837 00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,440 Speaker 1: trying to keep things on the level so people can 838 00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,560 Speaker 1: relate to what I'm talking about. And uh, yeah, so 839 00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:21,520 Speaker 1: I'm really excited. I'm really pleased and I feel honored 840 00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,560 Speaker 1: to have the opportunity to be invited to do such 841 00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:28,920 Speaker 1: a thing. And that is going to be currently that 842 00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,719 Speaker 1: I know of. It's going to be on June. I'll 843 00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:36,920 Speaker 1: be part of that conference. So schedules changed though, but 844 00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,360 Speaker 1: we'll see. So yeah, I hope you guys get a 845 00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,440 Speaker 1: chance to join me. Um it'll be early, It'll be 846 00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:46,280 Speaker 1: nine am Pacific time, and uh, I'm really looking forward 847 00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:50,600 Speaker 1: to it. So, UM, I gotta tell you, wow, this 848 00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:54,520 Speaker 1: has been it's a really special show for me. Um, 849 00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,759 Speaker 1: I really thank you Terry for taking the time to 850 00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,920 Speaker 1: write me and to say what you did really really 851 00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:05,400 Speaker 1: really touching. And uh, I also want to remind you 852 00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:09,799 Speaker 1: guys to go to my main website, Shadow Folks dot 853 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:13,560 Speaker 1: com or Heidi Hollis dot com and uh, tell me 854 00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:15,880 Speaker 1: what's going on out there. What are you guys experiencing. 855 00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,399 Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be to what happened today or 856 00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:21,640 Speaker 1: recent I want to hear what you've experienced, how it's 857 00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:25,440 Speaker 1: made you feel, what questions you might have. If I 858 00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:28,359 Speaker 1: can be of help in some way. This is what 859 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,560 Speaker 1: this program is about. We are all growing and sharing 860 00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:35,880 Speaker 1: and I am really excited about the future. You know, 861 00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:40,080 Speaker 1: people are starting to open up their minds and hearts 862 00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:43,760 Speaker 1: and thoughts to the possibilities and it's really cool to see. 863 00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:45,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I've been in this for a long time 864 00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:49,279 Speaker 1: and a lot of growth has happened. I love it, 865 00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,600 Speaker 1: um And also, please go to the Other F word 866 00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:59,000 Speaker 1: dot com and my comic strip Outlanders Comics dot com. 867 00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:02,279 Speaker 1: Go over there, and I hope to see you on 868 00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:06,880 Speaker 1: the social media on most platforms like Instagram and Twitter. 869 00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:12,560 Speaker 1: At Facebook, it's at one Heidi Hollis and comic strip 870 00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:16,760 Speaker 1: is at the Outlanders Comic and I look forward to 871 00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:19,640 Speaker 1: connecting with you all. People are always surprised. I actually 872 00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:24,520 Speaker 1: do respond alright. You have been listening to Dark Becomes 873 00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:27,840 Speaker 1: Light with me Heidi Hollis on the I Heart Radio 874 00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:32,240 Speaker 1: and Coast to Coast a M Paranormal Podcast Network. We'll 875 00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:50,960 Speaker 1: catch you next time. Be safe, goodbye, everybody. Well, if 876 00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:54,080 Speaker 1: you liked this edition of Dark Becomes Light, wait until 877 00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,520 Speaker 1: you hear the next one. You've been listening to the 878 00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:59,640 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast a M. Paranormal 879 00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:00,680 Speaker 1: podcas Past Network