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Speaker 2: with this. Mike McCarthy got hired by the Pittsburgh Steelers,

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Speaker 2: and as we talk about the Patriots Seahawks, let's just

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Speaker 2: give this five minutes. So McCarthy, to me, is an

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Speaker 2: offensive Mike Tomlin. He feels like Pittsburgh. He'll win games,

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Speaker 2: He'll be loose when they face a really well coached

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Speaker 2: the second best coach. But he's a good motivator like

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Speaker 2: Tomlin in defense, he does no offense. His teams play

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Speaker 2: with great enthusiasm. But to me, Pittsburgh, once again, is

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Speaker 2: you know, they draft Kenny Pickett, they hire Mike McCarthy.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of a Pittsburgh thing. They're the inserts, the

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Speaker 2: very proud. I thought they could have done better. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I probably. I don't know if Chris Shule is the answer.

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Speaker 2: You could hire him tomorrow. What did you make of

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Speaker 1: I feel like the reaction was shocked, people like they

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Speaker 1: really hired Mike McCarthy. I honestly, when John Harbaugh got fired,

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Speaker 1: I went, of course, they hired him the owner. Whatever

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Speaker 1: was two weeks ago when Tomlin steps down said I'm

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Speaker 1: not into throwing a season away. We do not plan

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Speaker 1: on tanking losing. We plan on competing every year. That

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Speaker 1: showed me when everyone in the Pittsburgh fan base was

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Speaker 1: They don't ever want to have a season like the Jets.

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Speaker 1: So Mike McCarthy represents at minimum stability of competing and

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Speaker 1: at least giving us a chance to maintain what Tomlin

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Speaker 1: and call the offense, because in fairness, he's right now.

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Speaker 1: I was thinking about this. This is gonna be his

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Speaker 2: The good news for McCarthy, I think he realizes that.

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Speaker 2: I think the first thing they have to do to

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Speaker 2: They have to switch the money from the defense to

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Speaker 2: kept that defense really really young. So you know, I've

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Speaker 2: success is you pay for offense. You just keep drafting defense,

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Speaker 2: got it all backwards. Pittsburgh paying everybody on defense, so

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Speaker 2: they've just got They've got to draft about six having

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Speaker 1: If I want to defend McCarthy like he has a

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Speaker 1: branding issue because I saw people putting his resume next

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Speaker 1: to John Harbass. That's pretty similar, and google John Harbaugh.

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Speaker 1: Tomlin's resume pretty similar. Not a lot of playoff success,

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Speaker 1: recently made the playoffs a bunch. His branding is bad.

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Speaker 1: You know, John Harbaugh gets fired, ten teams are calling

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Speaker 1: his agent. McCarthy's begging for a job last year, no

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Speaker 1: the way we speak about him, right, yeah, because he

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Speaker 1: Jesse Meant a really impressive defensive coordinator. First time head

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Speaker 1: be easy. You know, Zach Taylor is going to be

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Speaker 1: I mean, Colin, did you see the story that Cleveland

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Speaker 1: makes you write an essay to try to get the

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Speaker 1: this It'd be like you telling me, hey want you

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Speaker 1: to do a podcast for us, can you write us

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Speaker 1: a three page essay. It's like, Colin, this is a

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Speaker 1: verbal medium, Like, I don't care the coaching is. It's

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Speaker 1: understand it's a big job. I don't know, but doing

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Speaker 1: But he also he's been the head coach of the Packers,

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Speaker 1: I've been the head coach of the Knicks the Lakers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think and I and I'll say it

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Speaker 2: will you'll win games with Mike and he's going to

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Speaker 2: are some positives, but I've always thought Tomlin and Big Games,

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Speaker 1: And I think Aaron entertain's coming back now with Mike.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I could see that. Aaron's you know, Aaron always

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Speaker 2: and he'd be like, wow, is he retiring because I'm McCarthy.

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Speaker 2: an offensive Mike Tomlin, I was just looking for a

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Speaker 2: respect that. I mean, it's you know, there's certain cities

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Speaker 1: Rudy's just they can't even fathom. When they see the Jets,

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Speaker 1: about tanking and some of these other sports. It's respectable,

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Speaker 1: most of these starting quarterback you're not gonna find Purtier

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Speaker 1: enough good times and respectable seasons, they would understand a

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Speaker 1: I think they did this instead of hiring Davis. Wait,

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Speaker 1: you know some thirty two year old guy that was like, okay,

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Speaker 1: we'll have some growing pains with you. McCarthy could sell them.

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Speaker 1: Look at my resume. More than likely we will compete

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Speaker 2: Good stuff. All right, here we go, John Middlecoff and

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Speaker 2: I I don't work tomorrow on TV, so this is

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Speaker 1: Have you ever gone to Naples? By the way, Back

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Speaker 1: when I was with the Eagles, they had these scouting

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's exploded. Naples, Florida has exploded. I rented a

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Speaker 2: to kind of go around and look at the billionaire

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Speaker 2: that's boom boom, boom boom. Some people live. Well, that's all.

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Speaker 2: I'm on a twenty two foot boat looking at thirty

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Speaker 2: you know, listen. Well, let's start with Max Crosby. So

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Speaker 2: I had said this before. I think he was kind

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Speaker 2: down to the foundation. I thought they they may keep

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Speaker 2: Max because they have like twelve draft picks, eleven or

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Speaker 2: eight of those, they've got plenty of money. They're not

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Speaker 2: keep Max Crosby. But I think you know, they're looking

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Speaker 2: at he's an older player, still great. But I think

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Speaker 2: I saw a story today They're interested in Tyler Linderbaum,

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Speaker 2: the great center from Baltimore, and it's like the Giants

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Speaker 1: I think, what is it?

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Speaker 2: Jackson Powers Johnson JPJ from Oregon and he didn't play center,

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Speaker 2: he played guard, so he's more comfortable at guard. He's

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Speaker 2: very good. So to me, this feels like the Raiders

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Speaker 2: are doing if they get Tyler Lindebaum. It feels a

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Speaker 2: little bit like Ben Johnson into the Bears. Here's the quarterback,

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Speaker 2: and I'm gonna get the interior of the old line.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go get now. Drew Dollman just retired after

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Speaker 2: one year in Chicago. But do you like the Max

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Speaker 2: Crosby deal for them, especially for the Raiders if they

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Speaker 2: get Titler Lindebaum because of the availability to you know,

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Speaker 1: I like it simply because it was time, you know.

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Speaker 1: I think quietly he kind of wanted out. He wasn't

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Speaker 1: gonna do it, kind of like a yawna situation, because

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Speaker 1: he loves the fans, he loves the franchise. Colin, they

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Speaker 1: got more again. We'll have to see what plays out

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Speaker 1: next year. The Dallas Cowboys traded Michael Parsons and they

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Speaker 1: are lucky. I mean, it took up Micah Parson's injury

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Speaker 1: and a crazy comeback in a playoff game. They got

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Speaker 1: picked twenty. I didn't quite realize that the moment the

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Speaker 1: trade was made, and then you give it five minutes.

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Speaker 1: The Ravens missed the playoffs and win eight and nine,

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Speaker 1: which sometimes gets you picked eighteen. It's picked fourteen, and

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Speaker 1: I think I saw one sharp. This is the highest

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Speaker 1: amount of draft capital any team's ever had because they

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Speaker 1: got the first pick in every round. You'd rather have

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Speaker 1: picked one in fourteen than pick eight to nine. I mean,

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Speaker 1: where it's like, damn that that was a lot Colin.

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Speaker 2: You know. The other thing John to remember is they

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Speaker 2: already have The Raiders have two ones, A two to three,

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Speaker 2: three fours, two fives, two sixes. Those top that top

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Speaker 2: of round two. John, you do the first round. Guys

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Speaker 2: are making deals, gms are making deals all night. You

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Speaker 2: could move down seven spots and get another third, or

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Speaker 2: a fifth or a fourth, so the Raiders really can

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Speaker 2: rebuild the entire franchise. Quarterback first pick, fourteenth pick, you

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Speaker 2: could have the top interior old lineman from Penn State.

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Speaker 2: You could have the second best corner. I mean, you can.

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Speaker 2: You can do it. You have to probably replace Max

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Speaker 2: with one of your first three to four picks, you know,

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Speaker 2: but I mean, I it's the first time because Jackson

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Speaker 2: this is what the Bears did, so I don't I

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Speaker 2: can't tell you the last time I was. I think

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Speaker 2: John Spytech it deserves a lot of credit for this.

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Speaker 2: How many teams do you think we're interested in cross?

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Speaker 1: This is why I never understood they won't get two

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Speaker 1: first round picks. Guys, every playoff team. There are fourteen

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Speaker 1: playoff teams. The Raiders are obviously not even remotely close

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Speaker 1: on the Jags, you see you know, teams like the Bear.

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Speaker 1: All these teams are in the twenties, colin in the

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Speaker 1: give a max, if I trade them to the Jags

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Speaker 1: What's the likelihood that the Cowboys pick. I guess they

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Speaker 1: might have already traded it because they traded for Winning Williams.

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Speaker 1: But the way that they had set up the Micah deal,

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Speaker 1: that was looking like pick twenty eight and pick twenty

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Speaker 1: eight back to back years, which I'm not opposed, but

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Speaker 1: when I see I can't believe they the Bills gave

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Speaker 1: up a second rounder for DJ Moore. Guy, guys, it's

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Speaker 1: pick sixty, it's not picked thirty seven. That these things

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Speaker 1: are not equal. You know, Colin, I'm in my home,

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Speaker 1: you're in your home. We're both homeowners. Were not equal

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Speaker 1: if we sold our homes. They're not the same. So

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Speaker 1: it's like, when I see these things get thrown around, well,

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Speaker 1: first round because pick fourteen is fantastic. Pick twenty nine,

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Speaker 1: like the Chiefs, they did well. But pick you'd ask Andy,

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Speaker 1: There's a big gap. If I would have told you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Dj Moore pick to me. I thought worked

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Speaker 2: for Buffalo because Keon Coleman now there's no pressure on

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Speaker 2: big he's a big play kid. But now you've got

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Speaker 2: good slot receiver, a number one, and if Keon Coleman

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Speaker 2: about twice a game. You go downfield, you keep the safeties. Honest,

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Speaker 2: I thought DJ Moore to Buffalo was a great pick.

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Speaker 2: Brett Viach is a very very good general manager for

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs. I mean, Xavier Worthy last year at the

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Speaker 2: say a gadget receiver, but he's not a volume receiver.

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Speaker 2: That's that's about as well as you can do late

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Speaker 2: But if he was a volume receiver Makai lemon us

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Speaker 2: c you'd go mid first round and mkayle Lemon doesn't

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Speaker 2: end of the first round. I mean years ago the

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Speaker 1: So it's no, this is very when you look at

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Speaker 1: you know, historically from Ankuon Boldens to Steve Smith's to

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Speaker 1: Rokewan Smith. Like they are an aggressive organization. They've never

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Speaker 1: over the Lamar era, they have drafted what I would

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Speaker 1: all drafts aren't equal, and I'm not saying there's Kyle

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Speaker 1: at whatever pick ten or eleven. Weird things happen around

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Speaker 1: the draft. Stories come out, like the Raiders have an opportunity. Now.

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Speaker 1: They did this once upon a time, and I was

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Speaker 1: them to hit the pick. But listen, I've known Spy Tech.

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Speaker 1: He left the Eagles right before I was with him

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Speaker 1: though we're the butt of everyone's jokes. You could tell

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's been sober for six years. He's in

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Speaker 2: better at it. But I get I get them saying, Okay,

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Speaker 2: we planned a division with Joe Burrow, you know, probably

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Speaker 2: the division. I think what Baltimore is saying is and

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Speaker 2: I thought Green Bay did this as well. We're just

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Speaker 2: going to go it's our Mariano Rivera. We're gonna go

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Speaker 2: get a closer if because I know what Bill Paulion

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Speaker 2: told me this years ago. He said, when we drafted

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Speaker 2: Peyton Manning, we knew we would lead most of our

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Speaker 2: games in the fourth quarter. That's why Dwight Freeding was

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Speaker 2: so valuable, is that, you know Max. I said this

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Speaker 2: the other day on FS one. Think how great Max

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Speaker 2: Crosby was. How often do the Raiders lead in the

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Speaker 2: fourth Never there's nine minutes to go, Teams are running

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Speaker 2: the ball on the Raiders. They're trying to kill the clock.

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Speaker 2: They don't want players hurt. They're trying to get out

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Speaker 2: of Vegas and go home. Max Crosby now is going

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Speaker 2: to be his last twelve snaps are going to be sacked.

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Speaker 2: But twelve snaps with the Raiders are usually you know,

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Speaker 2: it's a run play. So I think I think the

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Speaker 2: Ravens are gonna listen. The bottom line is if Max

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Speaker 2: is a monster for two years and they get to

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Speaker 2: an AFC championship, you're gonna look at it go worth it.

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Speaker 2: The only things it's funny with the Raiders, John and

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Speaker 2: and I you being a former scout. So the Raiders

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Speaker 2: have so many picks now, so two first to second,

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Speaker 2: a third, three fourth fists. They can have multiple picks.

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Speaker 2: But Tom Tellsco told me this year's ago. He said,

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Speaker 2: you know, you have to be careful about being too young.

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Speaker 2: You know, Let's say you could trade a great player

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Speaker 2: and get four picks. He said, I'd sometimes rather have

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Speaker 2: three picks and a player. The Raiders are going to

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Speaker 2: rebuild their franchise, but people should be patient. But with

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Speaker 2: that many picks, like I could see the Raiders if

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Speaker 2: they have three fourth round picks, I could see them

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Speaker 2: using two of them and getting a second third. Like

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Speaker 2: I look at the Raiders and I think to myself,

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Speaker 2: in that division, it's not just about making sure your

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Speaker 2: picks can play. You need impact.

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Speaker 1: I think I think one thing they have to do

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Speaker 1: over the next I don't know, three or four days,

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Speaker 1: is potentially overpay a high level, veteran winning type guy.

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Speaker 1: You know, get a guy who has been a part

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Speaker 1: of a winner, who is a high character team leader.

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Speaker 1: If you got to overpay them and the listen, they

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Speaker 1: got advantages, people like living in Vegas, no state income tax.

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Speaker 1: It's not like a tough sell in free agency in football.

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Speaker 1: This isn't basketball or baseball. Like these guys go where

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Speaker 1: you give them the most money. And I would imagine

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Speaker 1: Spike Dick because he can't. He came from Tampa where

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Speaker 1: by the time Brady got there, they had the infrastructure.

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Speaker 1: Tom just provided that veteran leadership and now once he left,

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Speaker 1: all those guys were equipped because they just watched Tom.

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Speaker 1: And then you had the Vita veas you had them.

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Speaker 1: You know, Mike Evans was already a high level guy.

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Speaker 1: If I'm the Raiders, Hey Mike, who's offering you? What?

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Speaker 1: What's the most you got at ten? Hey, Waffiya fifteen?

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Speaker 1: You know you've already wonted Super Bowl, You're already going

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Speaker 1: to the Hall of Fame. We will overpay for what

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Speaker 1: you bring in tangibly two our facility because, like you said,

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Speaker 1: you can't put that all on Mendoza, you can't put

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Speaker 1: that all on Hornell Tait or whoever you take with

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Speaker 1: the fourteenth pick. You're gonna need some guys for them

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Speaker 1: to look up to. And that was Max, who is

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Speaker 1: probably as good as anyone, and he's like him Fred Warner,

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Speaker 1: like it's a short list of like you could not

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Speaker 1: meet a human that can say a bad word about

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Speaker 1: these guys and then when you factor in how good

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Speaker 1: of a player they are. But I thought that like

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Speaker 1: it had come to the you know, the happiest three

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Speaker 1: guys in the league, not in Baltimore. They're Jim Harbaugh

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Speaker 1: and he Reid, Sean Payton because the Raiders have not

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Speaker 1: been a good team, but they were a pain to

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Speaker 1: play when Max was playing because he could throw off

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Speaker 1: Those are three offensive guys. You know Andy, I mean

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Speaker 1: talk to Andy about him. I mean he revers Max.

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Speaker 1: I think I read something Sean Payton set Max Crosby

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Speaker 1: a text yesterday. So I mean, these guys they don't

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Speaker 1: just they're pretty numb to good players, right. They view

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Speaker 1: Max as like high level respect because they also know

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Speaker 1: how bad that team's been and how good. Remember we

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Speaker 1: turn on like random Friday night Blackfry or was it

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Speaker 1: Christmas Eve games and the Raiders are playing the Broncos.

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Speaker 1: It's like, God, this is hard, you know because.

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Speaker 2: Max, Yeah, yeah, no, they often played the Chiefs and

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Speaker 2: the Broncos tight. You know the utter thing I thought about,

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Speaker 2: think about Joe Burrow. So they let Trey Hendrickson walk

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Speaker 2: instead of trading him for a really good player like

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Speaker 2: the Raiders John spy Tech smartly did. He got a

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Speaker 2: two first round picks out of it. The Bengals classic

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Speaker 2: Bengals let Trey Hendrickson, who's not as good as Max Crosby,

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Speaker 2: but it's a very good player. They let him walk.

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Speaker 2: So Burrow now in his division, has Max Crosby twice

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Speaker 2: a year, Miles Garrett twice a year, and DJ Watt

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Speaker 2: twice a year, and his rush end is gone. I

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Speaker 2: have theorized with I just saw a picture of it

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00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 2: was Joe Burrow. I think it's this offseason in Vegas

558
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 2: playing with some celebrity, beautiful woman Jessicalba. And my take

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00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 2: is Burrow, just for his sanity, has really enjoyed his

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Speaker 2: off seasons because I think deep down he knows. You know,

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Speaker 2: I'm not playing with the same level of scouting department.

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Speaker 2: We don't make deals during the deadline. I mean, letting

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Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson walk and getting nothing for him. It's just

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Speaker 2: it's to me, it's outrageous, and I think sometimes fans

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00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 2: don't understand, like the most exciting thing about the Raiders

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Speaker 2: is not Fernando Mendoza, and it's not Clint Kubiak, it's

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Speaker 2: John Spytech. You have a competent general manager who's deal making.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know. I look at the Bengals letting

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Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson walk, and I look at Joe Burrow and

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Speaker 2: I think, God, that division and that Bengals, for the record,

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Speaker 2: have a bottom ten offensive line. Adding to it.

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Speaker 1: I at this point in time, I mean, he signed

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Speaker 1: a contract with a pretty questionable organization. Now you're young,

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Speaker 1: to offer you a ton of money, It's it's easy

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Speaker 1: to say, looking back several years, you know what you're

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Speaker 1: signing up for. It does inevitably have a feel of

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Speaker 1: like Sean McVeigh trading three ones, three twos and three

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Speaker 1: threes for him next offseason when he kind of makes

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Speaker 1: a stink in demands a trade. I mean this this

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00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,959
Speaker 1: thing feels headed toward a weird spot. Now, offensively they

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Speaker 1: are pretty good, you know, defensively some major question marks still,

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Speaker 1: but I mean they were kind of in the mix

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Speaker 1: in a weird way, you know, the last couple of years,

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Speaker 1: with a lot of flaws. So now Joe's got to

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Speaker 1: stay healthy as well. But I hear you, I mean

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Speaker 1: they I still think they could be competitive. If he

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Speaker 1: plays seventeen games, They're going to be a playoff level

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Speaker 1: competitive team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have. I've been very encouraged. Free agency officially

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Speaker 2: starts Wednesday, but I don't think but the McDuffie move,

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Speaker 2: the Max Crosby move, the DJ Moore move, Tyler lindebaum is,

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Speaker 2: I think if you're paying Lamar and Max is going

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Speaker 2: to be hard, and Kyle Hamilton, it's going to be

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Speaker 2: very hard to pay your center what the market's going

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Speaker 2: to offer. I think that's the next big shoot to

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Speaker 2: drop the Giants or the Raiders get Tyler Lindabaum. Is

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Speaker 2: there anything else out there a bomb dropping that you

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Speaker 2: would you think today?

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Speaker 1: I do you think once Dj Moore goes for pick sixty,

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Speaker 1: you know Howie goes well? If I'm gonna trade AJ Brown,

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Speaker 1: I gotta get at least a top forty pick, right,

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Speaker 1: So it it gets pretty complicated. Most of the teams drafting,

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Speaker 1: you know, from like thirty two to thirty nine forty

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Speaker 1: aren't good. AJ doesn't make that much sense to them.

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Speaker 1: And then you get into the high twenties, like who's

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Speaker 1: trading you know, Wood Kansas City trade pick twenty nine

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Speaker 1: for AJ Brown. I know, financially, some of these things

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Speaker 1: become a little complicated. But the other thing is al Pierce.

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Speaker 1: I mean, when Daniel was healthy, he was really good.

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Speaker 1: And I saw Albert Breer make this point somewhere that

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Speaker 1: Mike Vrabel's best friend is is the Wisconsin head coach Fickle,

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Speaker 1: and Fickle was the coach of Cincinnati when he was there.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is a six to three guy that

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Speaker 1: can run and go deep. Well, what does Drake may

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Speaker 1: do well go deep? What do they just get rid

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Speaker 1: of step On Diggs? So they're wider now they do

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Speaker 1: have Kyle Williams, the Washington State guy who's also a

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Speaker 1: vertical threat. I would be stunned if the Patriots aren't highly,

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Speaker 1: you know, interested in Alec Pierce. But there's also, you

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Speaker 1: know most of these guys, Max Crosby, we would talk

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Speaker 1: about getting traded, right McDuffie that there was clear some

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Speaker 1: rumblings like they probably weren't gonna resign them, that they

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Speaker 1: would trade them. DJ Moore, it was clear that they

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Speaker 1: were gonna pick one of their offensive Yes, there has

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Speaker 1: I mean, these gms are really aggressive. This has turned

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Speaker 1: much more into baseball. And there are Howie. When I

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Speaker 1: was around Howie, he was an outlier. He was ready

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Speaker 1: to do deals. No one would do deals. Now it

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Speaker 1: feels like there's twenty five guys willing to make moves

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Speaker 1: at any moment, big money moves. These owners have way

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Speaker 1: more money, so they'll trade salaries. They don't care about

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Speaker 1: previous signing bonuses. I would get ready for just there're

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Speaker 1: gonna be a couple of wild cards these next guy.

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Speaker 1: There have been some rumors about Jalen Carter, the Eagles guy,

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Speaker 1: because he's gonna want forty forty five million dollars a year.

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Speaker 1: So it's like, are you comfortable investing in the human

637
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Speaker 1: being because the players excellent, but the human it's risky.

638
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Speaker 2: Well, and the other thing, this is one of the

639
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 2: criticisms I've had with the NBA, and I don't think

640
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 2: Adam Silver. Adam Silver is so concerned about tanking and

641
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 2: dynasties that the NBA now has been replaced by the

642
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 2: NFL and Baseball with trades. Baseball and NFL guys. Our

643
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 2: gms are wild day traders. The NBA you can't make

644
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 2: these big sweeping deals anymore because of the aprons, and

645
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 2: so it's like, God, the NBA does so many things.

646
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 2: They're like people like dynasties were more distracted because of

647
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 2: our phone. It's like, NBA, you want the Nicks and

648
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 2: the Lakers to be good, You really want them to

649
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 2: be good. I'm watching what these gms are doing in

650
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 2: the NFL, and John this used to be what the

651
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 2: NBA did eight years ago, huge stars, trading teams.

652
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: No, it's it's really crazy what it's become.

653
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 2: Because even within its own conference like Max and now

654
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 2: the Raiders aren't a threat, but in your own.

655
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: Conference, I do think the influx of money. I mean,

656
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 1: I tweeted this out yesterday. I think one thing. Football

657
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 1: obviously has a lot going for it, and it's thriving

658
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 1: right now. It does feel the majority of their players

659
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 1: really really care and are really really invested, and like

660
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: you said, when these trays happen, all these guys react.

661
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 1: They're just very invested into the game. They're always You

662
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 1: watch these guys' Twitter accounts during college football Saturday. I

663
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 1: mean they you can't really play football without being an

664
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Speaker 1: all in football guy. You can for a minute, but

665
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 1: you will get exposed. You can't have long careers. Most

666
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: of the top guys are kind of junkies, you know.

667
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 1: I mean, and I think you watch Max Crosby talking

668
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 1: hearing these stories about Trent McDuffie. I mean, these guys

669
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: are just all in. I think one thing the end

670
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,879
Speaker 1: that hurts the NBA feels like half the people don't care.

671
00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,959
Speaker 1: And I'm not even just talking about the players the coach,

672
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: which is the GMS they're actively trying. It's like, do

673
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 1: you guys care as much as the people watching your sport?

674
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: Because if you don't, if the entertainment doesn't care, the

675
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: consumer is not going to care. And the one thing

676
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: football has we know the stories are well document about

677
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 1: the coaches, how they're maniacal workers. It feels like the

678
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,919
Speaker 1: players aren't that far behind. So it's like, God, they're

679
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,760
Speaker 1: as invested as I am. Watching these games and following

680
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:22,280
Speaker 1: this sport.

681
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 2: Here are two or three things that fans. The ratings

682
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 2: and the clicks prove fans love big trades. NBA doesn't

683
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 2: have them, dynasties baseball, NFL regularly has them, and massive passion.

684
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 2: Well load management has been outrageous in the NBA for

685
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 2: like eight to ten years. Just think about the things

686
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 2: that and this isn't just a dump on the NBA,

687
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 2: but don't overthink the room on this shit. Dynasties, big trades,

688
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 2: guys that live cry after losses, that deeply care. You're

689
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,240
Speaker 2: not getting that with James Harden like you're not getting

690
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 2: that with the NBA. So I thought that I thought

691
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 2: the Max Crosby comments were very symbolic of why we

692
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 2: love football. I think you really touched on something. I

693
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,919
Speaker 2: think Matt and I've been bringing Max on a couple

694
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 2: of times a year for years. I'd see him at

695
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 2: every UFC fight I went to. He would talk to

696
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 2: anybody any time. Same with Christian McCaffrey. You come up

697
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 2: and talk to Christian McCaffrey, we'll talk your ear off.

698
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 2: And I think that's just a relatability that that matter.

699
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: And think about this and I'm going to talk about

700
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,760
Speaker 1: this on my podcast. Is that McCaffrey, you know, comes

701
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: from I don't want to say NFL royalty, but Ed

702
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: was a really good NFL player. Went to Stanford like

703
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: Christian it would yeah, Max to me represents the NFL

704
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 1: and honestly kind of society. Didn't go to a school

705
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: that most people have heard about. Was not draft. He

706
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 1: wasn't even the first defensive end his own team took

707
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,720
Speaker 1: in that draft. They took Cleveland Ferrell in the top five.

708
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 1: And when the dust settles, he just keeps grinding. He

709
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: had issues off the field, fixed that, became a great husband,

710
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: became a focused guy, started laughing people, and as he

711
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,240
Speaker 1: got older, started taking people out in the dust because

712
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: that's the NFL. Came from a school. It wasn't Alabama USC.

713
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden, you look up. The guy's

714
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,760
Speaker 1: made nine Pro Bowls and two hundred million dollars. Khalil

715
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: Mack just made it. I googled it yesterday and like,

716
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: how much money is this guy made? But at the

717
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: end of next year he'll have made two hundred and

718
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 1: twenty million dollars, played a Buffalo.

719
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 2: And he's still great.

720
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: He looks incredible last year if it wouldn't have been

721
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 1: for the elbow injury, probably has ten sacks. So it's

722
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 1: like the NFL is full of guys that, yes, you're

723
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: gonna get. You know, your Peyton Manning from the sec

724
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: number one pick, but you're also gonna get a guy

725
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 1: that was a one year starter that's drafted in the

726
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: sixth round become your greatest quarterback of all time. You

727
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 1: know Joe Montana forever, he was a third round pick

728
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: who's six foot one. You know, It's like guys come

729
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: in all shapes and size is they come all different

730
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 1: paths in football. It's not like some guys have early

731
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 1: good starts like check in after four or five years,

732
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: because the NFL year in year out to be a

733
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Speaker 1: really good player, especially in the trenches or a quarterback

734
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: or a linebacker. It is. And the other thing, I

735
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: just think there's a nature of the sport, whether it's

736
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 1: high school, college or the NFL. Even with nil, you're

737
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: still getting yelled at at practice. There's a nature your

738
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: teammates are yelling at you. There's a humility that just

739
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: comes along with being criticized by your peers and by

740
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: your bosses. Every single day, which I just think happens

741
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: less and less all over. You could argue society, and

742
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,760
Speaker 1: I think that helps these NFL guys. They just feel

743
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: very relatable when you see them in social settings with

744
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: just normal everyday people that they can interact I'd say

745
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: most of them pretty easily.

746
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 2: Well, that's why people are so down on Kyler Murray

747
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 2: is he's such an outlier where you're not sure he

748
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 2: loves the sport. That's so rare in football. That's very

749
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 2: common in the NBA, where guys at four o'clock call

750
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 2: up and say, I, you know, I got a my

751
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 2: ankle hurts. You know, I took a nap. My ankle herts,

752
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 2: and they don't you know, and I don't. I'm not

753
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 2: saying they're lying, but it's just like you don't play

754
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 2: through certain things.

755
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: So well, that's why to be anyway Tyler, like, I

756
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: wouldn't be in that business. And if you are in

757
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 1: the business, whoever does sign him, it shows that that

758
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 1: seems pretty desperate, you know, pretty desperate.

759
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 2: All right, let's start with this, okay, I I know

760
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 2: he only has six starts. NFL free agency. Malik Willis

761
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 2: twenty two million a year three year deal with the Dolphins.

762
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 2: He is not to a stop saying that he's a

763
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 2: real athlete with a better arm. He's got a he's

764
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 2: got a much better arm than to it, and he's

765
00:39:55,200 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 2: really athletic. I know he's young. I like him. I

766
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 2: you know, John, I've said this for years. I don't

767
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 2: know anything about music other than I like it. I

768
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 2: can watch these musical shows. I can tell him thirty

769
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 2: seconds if somebody has like lounge ACKed, or you could

770
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 2: sign him to a record deal. And I don't know

771
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 2: anything about music. I know a little about football. When

772
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 2: I watched that kid's escapability arm he's got, I mean

773
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 2: he's got again, it's the it's Green Bay. So he

774
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 2: was well coached, but there were Packer fans saying they

775
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 2: thought he was as good or better than Jordan Love.

776
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 2: I think the Dolphins went and found a very interesting

777
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 2: player at quarterback.

778
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Speaker 1: Well. The other thing is the people that just signed

779
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: him know him. It's not the offensive goa to the

780
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator that went against him forever, because you know

781
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,439
Speaker 1: in the NFL, when you're the backup quarterback, you run

782
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: the uh you know, you run the scout team, you

783
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 1: service the defense. So Jeff Hafley had a front row

784
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: seat for two years, and the general manager who was

785
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: the right hand guy for Gudikins same thing. Right from

786
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,280
Speaker 1: an evaluation standpoint, do you remember a guy in proving

787
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 1: this much this fast? Because remember what Tennessee, he was

788
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 1: pretty bad, like he was unplayable, and then last year

789
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: when he had to play, he was basically just a

790
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: running quarterback. When Lafloor, remember because he got hurt in

791
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: Week one in Brazil, loved it, and then he had

792
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 1: to play and they started winning. It's like, okay, there's

793
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 1: at least something there. I gave Lafleur a lot of credit.

794
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: This year to me, with his arm was fantastic because

795
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,320
Speaker 1: he proved two things. One he could come out of

796
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 1: the bullpen. So he played in a game when Love

797
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 1: got hurt against the Bears that he was not planning

798
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 1: on playing. And then let's face it, Love was kind

799
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 1: of hit or missed this year. In that game, he

800
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 1: was fantastic. And the cold weather, which is a big

801
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: knock on Tua and a big knock on the Miami

802
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 1: Dolphins can't play in cold weather? Well, why is that

803
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,399
Speaker 1: the case? Usually when you have a p shooter arm

804
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 1: what doesn't pierce the cold in the wind? Weak arm strength.

805
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: Look at the great quarterbacks you know historically in that region,

806
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 1: Big Ben, Tom Brady, Peyton, Manning, and Breeze played in

807
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: a dome. Rivers played in southern California, Eli Manning, huge arm.

808
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: Where did he play in New York? You know Donovan McNabb,

809
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: Michael Vick, Patrick Mahomes. Cold weather quarterbacks. Burrows somewhat of

810
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: an outlier, not a great arm, but he's just he's

811
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: like Montana, just a great player. So it kind of translates.

812
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: But I'm with you. I not only like it, I

813
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: think it's an incredible story of just improvement. Clearly he

814
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,720
Speaker 1: was always a high character, interesting human, but the play

815
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 1: was really raw when Tennessee drafted him. But the Lafour

816
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 1: deserves a lot of credit because that offensive staff improving

817
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 1: the player deserves a lot of credit. Incredible story. I'm

818
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: with you. I think no brainer for him. Miami to

819
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: me is more interesting than going to than Arizona. So

820
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 1: I like picking the spot, and you know, the guys

821
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: know you and believe in you, so he wouldn't shock

822
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 1: me at off. I don't think he becomes like a

823
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: top seven eight quarterback, but has just a solid career.

824
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,760
Speaker 1: Like what we saw last year. There is no disputing

825
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: he was a really good player in limited action. Really good.

826
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it should be noted that Sam Darnold and

827
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield. You know, we've seen this before. There's more

828
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 2: good offensive coaches, there's more sophisticated schemes. If you're a

829
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 2: hard working kid, you're not gobbling up you know, too

830
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 2: much cap space. Although they have to pay two off

831
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 2: for two years, so I think we both like it

832
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 2: all right. Here's another one. Mike Evans to the forty

833
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 2: nine ers, so he is a big red zone target.

834
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Speaker 2: They have been hit and miss on receivers. I thought

835
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 2: they over played their hand on debo. He was good,

836
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 2: briefly got hurt, moved him. I yux a disaster. Ricky

837
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Speaker 2: Piersoll's solid, not great, but you know, late first round pick,

838
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 2: Mike Evans, red zone guy, Kittle, McCaffrey, Trent Williams. It's

839
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 2: again older player picks up the playbook with Kyle Shanahan

840
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 2: quickly a playmaker. It feels like Kyle Shanahan didn't have

841
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 2: a ton of patience with young players. He likes guys. Yeah,

842
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 2: I mean, it feels like to me, he likes veteran players.

843
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 2: So Mike Evans to the Niners again. This gives brock

844
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 2: per another weapon. Feels like it works to me.

845
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,399
Speaker 1: Yeah. Fits their kind of mold, high character, high level guy,

846
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 1: very productive. You know, Fred Warner, Christian McCaffrey like that

847
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:15,399
Speaker 1: type human slash player. Ricky Piersall is a good player.

848
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,760
Speaker 1: You just can't stay on the field. And Dwan Jennings

849
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: is going to get a lot of money. So the

850
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 1: IU thing blew up in their face. Yeah, I mean,

851
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: they have a major question mark at the wide receiver position.

852
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: And the other thing is the Rams are loading up

853
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 1: on their defensive backfield. So I think the forty nine

854
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 1: ers had to do something offensively because you saw in

855
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 1: those last couple games against Seattle. Obviously Kittle went down

856
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: in the second game, but they just had no firepower.

857
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 1: And the one thing you have to do the Rams

858
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: prove this if you have some firepower, that this is

859
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: not nineteen eighty seven, the rules are on your side

860
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 1: as an offensive coach. But they were rolling out practice

861
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,280
Speaker 1: squad level guys. So you get Mike Evans, a future

862
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, love that move, doesn't shock me at all.

863
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,399
Speaker 1: I mean that the forty nine ers at this point

864
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: in time haven't been that active the last couple of

865
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: years in free agency. But that's a Kyle shanahand Tip

866
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: guy for sure.

867
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, listen, the entire team gets nicked up.

868
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 2: I mean there's been stories about some right next to

869
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 2: their practice association there's a substation which weakens tissues. I

870
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 2: don't know if it's true, but to me, he feels

871
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 2: so forty nine ers. All right, let me throw another

872
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 2: one at you. We talked about this yesterday. Tyler Lindenbaum.

873
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 2: I'm not sure why Baltimore didn't sign him, Probably because

874
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 2: they have a Lamar contract renegotiation coming up, renegotiation coming up.

875
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 2: Max Crosby's expensive, Kyle Hamilton outside of Creed Humphrey of

876
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 2: the Chiefs, there's an argument Tyer Linderbaum is the best

877
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 2: center in football. I thought they were going to resign him.

878
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 2: He was a first round pick out of Iowa. Tough, smart, durable,

879
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 2: doesn't miss a lot of starts. I love. This is

880
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 2: an A plus move to me by the Raiders because

881
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 2: this is what Ben Johnson did with the Bears. You know,

882
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 2: they went drafted JPJ out of Oregon last year. He's

883
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 2: more of a guard. He was a center in college.

884
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 2: He's more of a guard. Then they bring in a

885
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 2: Pro Bowl center for Fernando Mendoza. Now their offense. Basically,

886
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,839
Speaker 2: they'll probably they have so many picks, they'll probably get

887
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 2: a receiver in the second or third round. They'll also

888
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 2: probably draft a right tackle fourth fifth round. I love

889
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 2: this to me, this is my favorite signing so far

890
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 2: in free agency.

891
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: Well, look at all the good teams, right. The Ravens

892
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 1: for the last four years have had one of the

893
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 1: best centers. The Chiefs have one of the best centers.

894
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: The Bills just paid their center. Like I mean, center

895
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 1: kind of matters, especially when you have a young quarterback.

896
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 1: And I think if you're a Raider fan, you look

897
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: at it.

898
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 2: Go.

899
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:45,240
Speaker 1: We essentially traded Max Crosby for two first round picks,

900
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: one being fourteen and a center who's one of the

901
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 1: better centers in the league. I just looked. He hasn't

902
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 1: missed a snap really in the last two years. So

903
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: this is a very durable classic like Midwest center. Right.

904
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: The other thing is, I would say this for the

905
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: raven standpoint. He was banged up last year, but the

906
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 1: previous two years when you factor in the center obviously

907
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: was an excellent player, and Likely, who accounted for eleven

908
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 1: touchdowns in twenty three and twenty four, was very productive

909
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: in their two playoff or their two playoff runs those

910
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:18,800
Speaker 1: two years. Like, he's not Kelsey or Kittle or anything,

911
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: but he was a unique player for them and made

912
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:25,240
Speaker 1: huge plays, even the play that led to the missfield

913
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,919
Speaker 1: goal against Pittsburgh on that Sunday night game. Who made

914
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: the crazy catch Isaiah Likely? How many teams have a

915
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 1: six to six guy. I mean, he kind of plays

916
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 1: like a little Darren Waller basketball player, elite athlete. You

917
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: just you don't need to be that accurate. Just throw

918
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: him a fifty to fifty ball, because it's not a

919
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 1: fifty to fifty ball. So there are some injury concerns.

920
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: He's not the most durable player. He is a unique player, though,

921
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: So you tell me the Ravens on offense with this

922
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 1: twenty nine year old aging quarterback, new offensive coordinator lose

923
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 1: their you know, kind of just stalwart guy at center

924
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: and this unique chess piece with Likely. You know, Henry

925
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:05,720
Speaker 1: still got something in the tank. But he's a little older,

926
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: say Flowers isn't exactly Jerry Rice good player, but I

927
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: mean their offense has some question marks assuming their defense

928
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 1: will improve, which it will, but I don't know. That's

929
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 1: that's to me something to keep an eye on. With

930
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 1: the Ravens, who are clearly trying. You know, we talked

931
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 1: about this last night, right super Bowl or bust, I

932
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 1: mean making it to the super Bowl. They're in this

933
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: little couple of year window now of them and the Bills.

934
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: There's no well we made the playoffs. That's not really

935
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: their standard in their organization now.

936
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 2: Rashawn Gary to Dallas Rusher off the edge. I mean,

937
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:42,760
Speaker 2: listen Quinn Williams, Kenny Clark and the trade for Micah

938
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 2: Parsons Rashaun Gary. It allows them to go get a

939
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 2: corner and maybe a Caleb Downs in the draft in

940
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 2: the first round. I mean, that's what it feels like

941
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 2: to me, is that they're they're gonna buy you know,

942
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 2: they're gonna spend money defensively up front. They don't want

943
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,320
Speaker 2: to wait for developing players. Jerry Jones is getting older,

944
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 2: Dack's getting older, so they're gonna go by veteran players

945
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 2: up front, which they have, and then they're gonna draft

946
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:05,879
Speaker 2: on the back end. I still think they're gonna draft

947
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 2: defensive players with their picks in the first round.

948
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think clearly there's gonna be a good defensive

949
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: back there with their first pick, which is what is

950
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 1: it thirteen? Like they're gonna get Caleb Downs. Definitely, there's

951
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: a chance he's there Whinny Factory.

952
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 2: Or one of the two best corners.

953
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're gonna get And I think at pick twenty

954
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 1: gives them a little leeway of just they can take

955
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 1: a great player right who doesn't have to be a

956
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,839
Speaker 1: position in need. Say this about the Cowboys, They've they've

957
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 1: drafted pretty well, especially in the first round. From Zach Martin,

958
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: you know, Zeke was really good. Obviously, Ceedee Lamb, like.

959
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,320
Speaker 2: What Kyler Smith has become a good player, Tylers.

960
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 1: All their offensive linemen have become, you know, starters for

961
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 1: their team. So I one thing you'd say about Jerry

962
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 1: in the front office operation, Jerry's not the guy breaking

963
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 1: down seven games on every player right now. He's the

964
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: guy front and center when the press conference comes. But

965
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: they have a really good scouting staff. So I think

966
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. I was just texting somebody, I think the

967
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 1: Giants this NFC East. You know the Eagles, they lose

968
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: Jalen Phillips. Their pass rush when they won the Super

969
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,720
Speaker 1: Bowl a couple of years ago was like historically great.

970
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: I think they have four guys get double digit sacks. Well,

971
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,839
Speaker 1: since then, Brandon Graham retired, came back, probably retire again,

972
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 1: Fletcher Cox has gone. Obviously, Sweat is now on the Cardinals.

973
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 1: They have this Jalen Carter situation, who is an elite talent,

974
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,359
Speaker 1: but they are very uncomfortable paying him forty forty five

975
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 1: million dollars. So it's like, now you look at the Giants,

976
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 1: who have some stability. The Cowboys offensively have been fantastic

977
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: Shottenheim approved, Like he's a pretty good offensive play call.

978
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 1: If their defense is just solid, they're gonna be a

979
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 1: pretty interesting team. So you gotta have the Giants and

980
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 1: the Cowboys like that division is gonna be, to me,

981
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 1: dramatically more competitive than I would say it's been over

982
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 1: the last ten years when it's basically just been the

983
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 1: Eagles or those couple of years with McCarthy when the

984
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:55,359
Speaker 1: Cowboys were pretty loaded. But now the Commanders, I think

985
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: Commanders still have a lot of question marks I think

986
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 1: they clearly wanted Linderbaum. But what did the Raiders have.

987
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,280
Speaker 1: No state income tax can offer a huge amount of money.

988
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,839
Speaker 1: You just have a fresh slate. Here come you get

989
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 1: to be the team captain. So the Commanders had cut

990
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 1: their center. He's now on the Chargers. I'm sure they

991
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 1: wanted Linderbaum. They don't have that. Their roster's kind of

992
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 1: old to begin with. So and the Eagles just got

993
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: a lot of moving parts. Now, they still got a

994
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 1: lot of talents and talent in the NFL matters. But man,

995
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 1: there's just that that division, to me, has gotten a

996
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: lot more interesting in the last couple months.

997
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,879
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1016
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 2: He's great after contact gets dinged up. But they have

1017
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 2: no juice. They're losing backs to free agency. They have

1018
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 2: no juice in the backfield. I also thought this made

1019
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 2: sense because they don't have a ton of draft picks,

1020
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 2: but it allows them. Now their first pick could be

1021
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 2: the right tackle Pheno from Utah. They need a corner

1022
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 2: for McDuffie, they need an edge rusher. They have three

1023
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 2: big needs now with Kenneth Walker, they'll probably draft another

1024
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 2: running back later in the draft. It's not a good

1025
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 2: running back draft, so I mean to me, Kenneth Walker

1026
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 2: is more valuable that This sounds weird to say as

1027
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl MVP, but I think because of Charbonay

1028
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 2: with the Seahawks as a backup, they have another couple

1029
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 2: backs in Seattle that are, you know, spot players. They

1030
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 2: don't play a ton, but I think Kenneth Walker to

1031
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 2: the Chiefs feels incredibly valuable. And with Seattle, not that

1032
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,240
Speaker 2: he was disposable, but they have such a stacked roster.

1033
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 2: It feels like if they if they drafted another running

1034
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 2: back in the fourth round, one of the a Penn

1035
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,800
Speaker 2: State running back in the third round, You're like, they're fine.

1036
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 2: I think Kansas City had to do this.

1037
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think they had a choice either. I

1038
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 1: think it's pretty clear to them too.

1039
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 2: Now.

1040
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 1: I don't think they would have taken Jeremiah of but

1041
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 1: at this point in time, you're weighing all your options.

1042
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 1: I think they understand that that wasn't even going to

1043
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 1: be an option at pick nine. So you go quote

1044
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,280
Speaker 1: unquote overpay. I mean they gave him a substantial amount

1045
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 1: of money three years, forty five million dollars, almost guaranteed

1046
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,240
Speaker 1: thirty Remember a couple of years ago that was essentially

1047
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 1: what Howie Roseman gave Safehaud Barkley. So these running backs,

1048
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 1: they've been on zoom calls, always bitching and mona. They

1049
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 1: don't get any money like this has been better the

1050
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: last couple of years. The buddy is gravitated towards them. Listen,

1051
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. They weren't gonna let Baltimore and Buffalo have

1052
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 1: all the fun like Andy Reid. They don't plan on

1053
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people talk about this, I'll

1054
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 1: just have an off year and they ain't mailing anything

1055
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 1: in that. Their game plan is Mahomes start in week one.

1056
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 1: They plan on winning. They get a plug and play

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Speaker 1: running back. Now, one thing that he's going to have

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Speaker 1: to prove he can do Andy like's throwing the ball

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00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 1: to the back right, Shady McCoy, Brian Westbrook, Jamal Charles

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00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: when he first got to So it's like, now, could

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00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 1: they maybe want to adapt a little bit to take

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00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 1: some pressure who they bring back? Eric b Enemy What's

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00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 1: he a running back guy? Right? So maybe they want

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00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 1: to take a little pressure off coming off an injury

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00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:48,839
Speaker 1: right coming off in ACL They're not gonna want him

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00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: to throw forty fifty times a game like he did

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00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 1: earlier in his career. So could they maybe try to

1068
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 1: lean on Kenneth Walker a little bit more? Now that

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00:54:56,040 --> 00:55:00,320
Speaker 1: would be very opposite of Andy's history. But listen, who

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Speaker 1: counted people in any industry? Do they adapt? They change?

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00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 1: And He's changed how many times his offense? His offense

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00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 1: now ask anyone is dramatically different than it was ten

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00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 1: years ago, twenty years ago. So what if you tell everyone,

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Speaker 1: I don't think many people in the league would believe

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00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 1: you they're a rushing team this year. Right, they got

1076
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:17,839
Speaker 1: a good guard, they got a good center, they got

1077
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: a young stud left tackle. Like you said, what if

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00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,359
Speaker 1: they draft a right tackle and they go, you know what,

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00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 1: why don't we do some Kyle Shanahan and just run

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00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 1: the ball, take a little pressure off our quarterback, build

1081
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 1: up our young defense with our stud coordinator. So what

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00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 1: if the Chiefs are their game plan this year is

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00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 1: to be one of the better rushing teams. Look at

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00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:40,359
Speaker 1: you know the Bills with Cook. Now Cook's a better

1085
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,879
Speaker 1: player than Walker. But what if the Chiefs are about

1086
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 1: to throw a little curveball here and become a running offense.

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Speaker 2: Do you think Travis Kelsey signs with them or somebody else? Well?

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Speaker 1: I thought he was gonna go to the Giants and

1089
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:52,879
Speaker 1: then they signed likely and that's not happening. I mean,

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Speaker 1: by all accounts, maybe they're just as a tie that

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00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:59,919
Speaker 1: I undervalue a little bit. This is a unique play

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00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 1: with a unique connection to Andy and the Chiefs, and

1093
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 1: for the right price. I mean, at this point in time,

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00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 1: he's so wealthy on and off the field that maybe

1095
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 1: he's just cool with Like, hey, man, I understand, I'm

1096
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 1: not a fifteen million dollar a year player anymore. Could

1097
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Speaker 1: we go like five and incentivize that up if I

1098
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,359
Speaker 1: give you ten touchdowns? But this is where I want

1099
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Speaker 1: to be. These are my people, which which I value.

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Speaker 1: I think I do understand from a player standpoint of

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Speaker 1: seeing some you know, Kobe Bryant types, like this is

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Speaker 1: the only franchise I ever played with, even though historically

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00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 1: that's not really how the NFL works. So I am

1104
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 1: a little surprised if it does work out. But I

1105
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: think the reason that we haven't seen it yet is

1106
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 1: the Chiefs aren't just gonna well, Travis, here's the check,

1107
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 1: you fill it in, like those days are kind of

1108
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 1: over because he wasn't great last year, Colin. I mean,

1109
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:50,839
Speaker 1: the drops, he definitely looked his own question. I think

1110
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,839
Speaker 1: he got to be very careful and Andy has been

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00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 1: over the course of his career of kind of you know,

1112
00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:00,800
Speaker 1: separating the emotional connection to the human in in the past.

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Speaker 2: Right.

1114
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 1: But this might just be a really tough one given that,

1115
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 1: I mean, Andy says, well, I might owe some Super

1116
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 1: Bowls to this guy, right, I mean, yes, I do. Listen,

1117
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 1: We're all human beings. So this is probably really tough

1118
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 1: internally for Veech and Andy. This is most players they'd say,

1119
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Speaker 1: hey see you, godspeed, good luck at what you can

1120
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Speaker 1: because this is this is a little abnormal to what

1121
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 1: good teams do in the NFL. Right, But maybe there's

1122
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Speaker 1: just a connection that unless you really in that building

1123
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Speaker 1: with these guys every day, that I even undervalue from

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Speaker 1: the outside.

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Speaker 2: So Alex Pearce one of the moves I think Alex

1126
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Speaker 2: pears is Alex pearis is very good out of Cincinnati.

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Speaker 2: Twenty nine million a year is a lot for him.

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Speaker 2: That's a little steep. And the Sauce Gardener. Two first

1129
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 2: round picks for Sauce Gardner. People thought that was too much.

1130
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Speaker 2: So suddenly Chris Ballard is hyper aggressive. The Steelers get

1131
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Speaker 2: Michael Pittman, which they needed a number two receiver. You

1132
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Speaker 2: know what that feels like to me, the Michael Pittman

1133
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Speaker 2: of the Steelers. From the first of all, it frees

1134
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Speaker 2: up room for Pierce, who's a better downfield receiver. I

1135
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1136
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Speaker 2: almost felt like a great two. Pierce feels like a

1137
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Speaker 2: middle one. I mean that that's my interpretation that they

1138
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Speaker 2: really like Pierce and he can really move. Pittman's a

1139
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Speaker 2: very tough, durable you know, his dad was a running

1140
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1141
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1142
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1143
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1144
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1145
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Speaker 2: they've got two expensive wide receivers. I don't know, it

1146
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Speaker 2: feels like that's a Mike McCarthy bang the table move

1147
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1148
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1149
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1150
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1151
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1152
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 2: but changing of the tide where they're moving offensive money over.

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