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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This is Talking

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Speaker 1: Cowboys training live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at

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Speaker 1: the Star in Friscoota. And now your hosts Isaiah Stanback,

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Speaker 1: heck Ma Harrison, Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeoman's it's another

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Speaker 1: edition of Talking Cowboys here from the s WBC studios

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Speaker 1: at the Star in Frisco. It's not only a TCT,

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Speaker 1: heck Ma Harrison, it is a Mini Camp TCT because

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Speaker 1: Mini Camp Mandatory Mini camps are underway today from the

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Speaker 1: Star in Frisco the next three days, a preview to

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Speaker 1: what Oxnard will be coming up in the latter parts

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Speaker 1: of July. But then we hit a bit of a break.

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Speaker 1: We hit this mini camp and then we hit a break,

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Speaker 1: and so we're gonna break it down for you Today

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Speaker 1: is always alongside my great buddy heck Ma Harrison. That's it.

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Speaker 1: That's the only people in the studio. It's all we've got.

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Speaker 1: We had an earlier show today because of Mini Camp

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Speaker 1: because the schedule gets pushed up and Mike McCarthy as

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Speaker 1: a press conference, and then we've got practice at eleven

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Speaker 1: thirty that the media is able to go out and watch,

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Speaker 1: but I guess we were the only ones that got

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Speaker 1: to memo. Yeah, it seems as though that is the case.

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Speaker 1: But men, like you said, man, this is a this

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Speaker 1: is a great day. It's a great day. Mini camp

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Speaker 1: is on and Rob pie Island. Hello, sir, how are

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Speaker 1: you hello? Yeah, he's in here. He was doing actual work,

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Speaker 1: so we give him flat but but no, I mean

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Speaker 1: it's just literally, today is that day mandatory. So everybody

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Speaker 1: hands on deck. It's been voluntary falling air quote voluntary before,

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Speaker 1: but now all hands on deck, everyone's got to be here.

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Speaker 1: I'm just excited that obviously now media is able to

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Speaker 1: be back in the building, and it's just starting to

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Speaker 1: feel so much more reck normal. And I almost hesitate

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Speaker 1: to say that because it's like as soon as you

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Speaker 1: say things feeling normal again, something happens, but it really does.

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Speaker 1: It feels good to have this access, to be able

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Speaker 1: to watch practice in person, be able to listen to

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Speaker 1: these interviews after practice. It's just awesome. Man. It's just

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Speaker 1: it's a vibe of buzz in the building that's set

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Speaker 1: off the fire alarms. Pe so last call for us Yeah,

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Speaker 1: fire alarm. That was that was That was fun. I

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Speaker 1: was trying to finish up something on the website. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and now I'm here and I've got a little bit

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Speaker 1: of news. Oh, break it down. Yeah, Dalton Schultz is back.

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Speaker 1: He is back in the building. He will participate in

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Speaker 1: the mandatory mini camp. I guess he would have been

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Speaker 1: subject to fire had he not been. But we'll see

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Speaker 1: if that leads to contract talks any more intensified contract talks.

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Speaker 1: The other thing is I'm in shorts, hex and a

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Speaker 1: Hawaiian shirt. We're all gonna be out, Yeah, we're already.

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Speaker 1: This is an indoor practice. Yeah, this is indoor practice

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Speaker 1: to day. Yeah, and which might be kind of cold

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Speaker 1: inside for it center by the time we get outside

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Speaker 1: for like eleven thirty twelve o'clock practice, it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: ninety degrees, which means it's probably gonna one hundred and

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Speaker 1: m let's let's just do this not today, not today.

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Speaker 1: Well that makes me think that throughout the week they

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Speaker 1: there today, they may they may push it for a day.

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Speaker 1: I would anticipate maybe one day they'll go out there.

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Speaker 1: They're not gonna tell us what day it is, so

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Speaker 1: it we'll be in shorts all week long and then

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Speaker 1: we'll figure it out. As soon as we get in

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Speaker 1: practice field, it's, oh, there's there's nothing out there. Because

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Speaker 1: they're not any pads up there. Please you just keep going.

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Speaker 1: We're getting an emergency alarmed Chris, I did too, is

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Speaker 1: not here. I wish it was, oh gosh, what are

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Speaker 1: you doing to a CBS our emergency break. Isaiah's trying

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Speaker 1: calls Isaiah will be here at some point. Everybody, Well,

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Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz is probably the biggest news. You mentioned it

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Speaker 1: But off the field, it said that talks have been intensifying.

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Speaker 1: a deal done. That's on the Cowboys side. Now. There

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Speaker 1: hasn't been a lot of movement to this point, obviously

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Speaker 1: not enough for him to feel like I got to

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Speaker 1: make a point last week and not show up. But

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Speaker 1: I do think that's something the Cowboys want to work towards. Now.

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Speaker 1: It's under a month. Now, they've got I think twenty

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Speaker 1: nine days to get it done or thirty one days

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Speaker 1: to get it done. We'll see. If Dak Prescott didn't

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Speaker 1: nothing's off the table. Like it wouldn't surprise me if

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Speaker 1: something the cowboys want to work towards because they do

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Speaker 1: value what he brings to the table, obviously, and it

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Speaker 1: would help them from a salary cap perspective too, to

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Speaker 1: try to, you know, maybe lessen their cap. It creates

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Speaker 1: some more space going forward. How's it going, isam? Hello? Kyle?

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Speaker 1: How are you, sir? I'm great? How about you? I'm

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Speaker 1: fan Tabuloso. Good. You have a good chat with Jerry? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: ge mat Man. I'd love to see him. Man. Obviously

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Speaker 1: we talk on the phone all the time, but it's

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Speaker 1: always good to have your coach in person. This is

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Speaker 1: the first time that y'all have got me. I know

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Speaker 1: you met him back in the day, but did y'all

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Speaker 1: beat him? Yeah? Yeah, we've met a number of times before. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: yeah I didn't. I mean, but this this back to

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Speaker 1: back days with amazing shirts. I love it. Oh it's nothing, man,

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Speaker 1: nine thousand. Yeah, it's over nine thousand. Definitely. I don't

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Speaker 1: think he does threat accounts. Thiggy Chris, I really kind

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Speaker 1: of a backhand. No, that's no. No, No, him and

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Speaker 1: I are the same. We don't like price tags, a

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Speaker 1: low price tage. We'll work, We'll take it. Got it, same,

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Speaker 1: same right on there. All right, let's let's preview this

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Speaker 1: mini camp because specifically fans out there they want every

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Speaker 1: single ounce. What's up. I'm sorry, and I don't mean

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Speaker 1: to stop you. This is an interruption. It is it is.

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Speaker 1: You did a celebrity run day. We're not just gonna

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Speaker 1: Oh you were, Yeah, I'm since, but it was Wade.

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Speaker 1: I was going to hit it in the second throw

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Speaker 1: it out there. Yeah, I played like trash. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: was disappointed. He struck out in the celebrity I did.

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Speaker 1: I did not strike Yes, you did. No, I did

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Speaker 1: not get hit. Two foul balls, that's strike out. That's

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Speaker 1: definitely not strike strikeout. I made contact, Kim Hamlets struck out.

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Speaker 1: Did you put the ball in play? I did? No?

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Speaker 1: out and foul out two separate. It was, Yes, it

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Speaker 1: outing as an offensive player. That's okay. I made some

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Speaker 1: made a couple of good catches. But that's expected. You're

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Speaker 1: Who was pitching? Who do we have pitch? I think

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Speaker 1: I didn't get past tea ball. So I'm not part

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Speaker 1: I was trust me that nobody was harder on themselves

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Speaker 1: This past year, I just wasn't. I'm not gonna make

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Speaker 1: any excuses. Too many mine, too many didn't do well.

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Speaker 1: and want to hear about many camps specifically. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: all for a great cause. Absolutely good stuff. Yeah, really

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Speaker 1: talk about MANI camps specifically, like I said, because fans

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Speaker 1: through the right amount of work throughout his career here

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Speaker 1: with the Cowboys. But Rob, when you look at a

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Speaker 1: practices without the pads, but still a high intensity, high

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Speaker 1: Other than that, I think no pads, the pace of practice,

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Speaker 1: the Star, this would be a great opportunity to see it,

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Speaker 1: a great opportunity to to support a great cause specifically,

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Speaker 1: wonderful event. Wonderful event, and uh man, kudos and to

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Speaker 1: you know, obviously we live in a time where where

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Speaker 1: I said, it's it's like it's really kudos to the

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Speaker 1: gots congratulations. So now that we do have an opportunity,

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Speaker 1: how did the Green Family Foundation, the the Nibble and

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Speaker 1: Mingle Celebration ghost wonderful? There was a host there, well,

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Speaker 1: and he was up on the stage and he did

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Speaker 1: so many different things. It was Hecma Harrison. As you

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Speaker 1: We just try to let that live. But no, it

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Speaker 1: was wonderful, It really was. It was wonderful, wonderful event.

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Speaker 1: And like I said, guys, we talked about when when

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Speaker 1: someone that's lost their life to cancer. Like I one

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Speaker 1: just you know that it's important to continue to uplift

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Speaker 1: and support people after they have a loved one pass.

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Speaker 1: And the University of North Texas has answered the call

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Speaker 1: for the Foundation to have the scholarship, and I just

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Speaker 1: think it's wonderful. But the night with the man with

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Speaker 1: the amount of gold jackets, the Hall of Famers, that

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Speaker 1: people don't understand like a lot of these older players,

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Speaker 1: gonna take a picture with the yellow jackets, and Cliff

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Speaker 1: Harris would have to get out of the picture. And

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Speaker 1: Captain Crash? You lost your mind. But now he didn't

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Speaker 1: have to do that, And I mentioned that to him

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Speaker 1: as well, and him and my uncle had had an

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Speaker 1: inside joke on that, so he never has to step

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Speaker 1: out of the Hall of Fame pictures anymore. But man,

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Speaker 1: it's just a great ye Van Earl Campbell Hall of

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Speaker 1: Famers were there, you know, So it was wonderful, cool,

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Speaker 1: that's outstanding. And by the way, just because the event

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Speaker 1: Family Foundation. Go online green Family Foundation dot org, great

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Speaker 1: cause scholarships for those that deserve it, and of course,

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Speaker 1: in memorium to a great woman. At the same time,

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Speaker 1: we also had the Reliant Home Run Derby last week.

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Speaker 1: I know a lot of people listening to this show

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Speaker 1: would like to hear how that went. Over one hundred

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Speaker 1: and thirty five thousand dollars raised to charities around by

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Speaker 1: the Reliant Home Run Derby, the Dallas Cowboys and the

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Speaker 1: Frisco rough Riders. It was a fantastic night, so much fun.

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Speaker 1: Mica felt like he got this the show stolen from

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Speaker 1: him a little bit by you. He hit the most homers.

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Speaker 1: Now he had the most homers, he had thirteen, but

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Speaker 1: Layton Vanderesh raised the most money, so by by rule,

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Speaker 1: he was the winner. So it was Layton Vanderesh Anthony

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Speaker 1: Brown who didn't hit a single ball in the first

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Speaker 1: and not like Homer didn't hit a ball in the

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Speaker 1: first round, and then he finished second because he just

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Speaker 1: last week. Yeah, and that's what that is is when

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Speaker 1: you if you go to the game and you go

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Speaker 1: to eighteen t Stadium and all this stuff on the

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Speaker 1: watching Sunday Night football, the starting lineup video packages for

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Speaker 1: all the guys, like, that's where they film all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: So we helped out kind of scoring guys around to

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Speaker 1: different stations. I walked with Anthony Brown for like two hours.

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Speaker 1: He was so pissed off about his first round performance.

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Speaker 1: Guys are so competitive, man, it's I love it. You

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Speaker 1: just talked about it with yours too. It's just like

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Speaker 1: because he played and he's like, man, I had to

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Speaker 1: get my timing down, you know, and he still almost

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Speaker 1: pulled it out. But hey, when you when you spend

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Speaker 1: five hundred bucks on a bat Man, you yant to

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Speaker 1: do pretty well. As Mike did. He was as entertaining

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Speaker 1: as anybody. Hit two over the wall, like not the

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Speaker 1: short fence, like over the wall in left field. One

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Speaker 1: of them went almost into the street. It was absolutely phenomenal.

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Speaker 1: As for my media home run derby, I finished in third.

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Speaker 1: I didn't win. I put on a laser show. In

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Speaker 1: the first round. I hit nine in the first round,

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Speaker 1: so I was I was rolling, hit six in my

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Speaker 1: first seven pitches show. I was rolling. Then then the

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Speaker 1: second round because I went last because of my last name,

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Speaker 1: because wise towards the bottom of the alphabet, I went last,

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Speaker 1: and so I had a quicker turnaround to get to

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Speaker 1: that second round. I just ran out of gas. They

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Speaker 1: screwed you. Yeah, no, I would. It's not totally totally

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Speaker 1: blamed on that because in my final round, I hit

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Speaker 1: the first two, I popped them up, got underneath them,

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Speaker 1: and then I hit four out of my next five

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Speaker 1: out of the yard. So I was at four with

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Speaker 1: three outs and I needed five to get to the

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Speaker 1: final round, and I just hit the final two. I

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Speaker 1: did it again. I popped them up, So it happened.

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Speaker 1: It's okay, it was my first one. I feel it

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Speaker 1: pain too. I'm gonna turn around. I'm gonna be I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna be right back in it. Don't you wanted to

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Speaker 1: hurry up? Come back around. I want to repeat yourself

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Speaker 1: like this. It was so much so We're playing at

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Speaker 1: Globe Black. We had to hit bombs there was no

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Speaker 1: short fifths and nothing nothing like that. The Rangers had

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Speaker 1: to the Rangers players mentioned autumn casts. They were trying

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Speaker 1: to hit him too, and caps his warning track in it.

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Speaker 1: You know, there was this one professional softball dude who

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Speaker 1: got up there and was hitting straight bombs just stropes

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Speaker 1: found thirty feet. Oh my gosh, that was the real

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Speaker 1: laser show lasers, show your bombs. All right, let's answer

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Speaker 1: some questions from Cowboys Nation now that we've hit that. Uh,

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Speaker 1: appreciate everybody who's been sticking around with us here over

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Speaker 1: these last couple of weeks. Lots of charity and lots

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Speaker 1: of events going on. All right, I'm pretty sure I

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Speaker 1: saw some dear anitlers our friends. Our friend Kevin says,

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Speaker 1: do you see the Cowboys addressing linebacker and or wide

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Speaker 1: receiver before training camp in August? He would even throw

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Speaker 1: into fence ven but he just doesn't want to push it. Rob.

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Speaker 1: But if any of those positions stick out to you

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Speaker 1: as a must add when we get into the latter

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Speaker 1: parts of the ops season, must add. I don't know

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Speaker 1: about must add. I would say wide receiver. No, I

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Speaker 1: don't think they would add anybody. Linebacker, maybe I think

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Speaker 1: linebacker stands out is more of a depth deal. We

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Speaker 1: talked about that, but again, if it's going to be

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Speaker 1: a veteran, it's got to be something they're comfortable with,

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Speaker 1: what both sides are comfortable with, and who's out there left.

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Speaker 1: You know, I know Bar as a guy people have mentioned.

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Speaker 1: Is maybe a link to the Cowboys Anthony Barr. Maybe

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Speaker 1: that's an option, but I think it wide receiver, especially

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Speaker 1: like I just think, you know, provided guys get healthy.

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Speaker 1: James Washington is not back to practice yet. Maybe he

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Speaker 1: gets in today. We'll see. Jalen Tilbert just got back

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Speaker 1: to practice. Third round draft pick. I think they want

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Speaker 1: to kind of see how that all fits together first

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Speaker 1: with Dak and then kind of reassess it if you're

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Speaker 1: not happy with it. Obviously, Michael Gallup still working his

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Speaker 1: way back. What do you think. Heck, well, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna beat Isaiah to linebacker because I know where

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Speaker 1: he's going. But it's true, I don't think you feel

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Speaker 1: comfortable with the depth right now at linebacker, and no

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Speaker 1: matter how Dad Quinn expects to play, it's laden. Vander

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Speaker 1: esh has shown flashes in coverage. We know he's a

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Speaker 1: great run stopper, but after that you really have questions.

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Speaker 1: I know I do. I know a lot of people

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Speaker 1: are relying on Jabril Cox in the second season, but

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Speaker 1: comes back from that and then still trying to get

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Speaker 1: Some of the other guys that they have in like

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Speaker 1: Story Jackson and these are completely guys that are buried

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Speaker 1: undrafted free agents. Can someone like that emerge from that room?

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Speaker 1: But Devin Harper right now, I think he is someone.

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Speaker 1: And I talk to you about this, Kyle while we

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Speaker 1: were out there. I'm like, look, man, number fifty is moving,

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Speaker 1: he has some legit will is he gonna be able

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Speaker 1: to not only have value with his defensive reps but

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Speaker 1: also value in special teams. Um, that's where we're looking

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Speaker 1: at from our linebacker package, from my linebackers. But I

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Speaker 1: think at some point you gotta you gotta get another

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Speaker 1: waiting and seeing if there's other cuts on other teams

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Speaker 1: to go with a linebacker, And that's maybe why getting

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Speaker 1: Schultz signed to add that cap space, that you may need,

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Speaker 1: but they have to be looking at that, and Reill

636
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: Cox is not even practicing yet. They're they're building him

637
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: towards training camp and they're excited about him. But you're right,

638
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 1: like he hasn't He hasn't played very much at all,

639
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: and I think they're counting on him just to step

640
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: in and be counting nil, you know, repeatedly step into

641
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,479
Speaker 1: his role playing. You know, half the snaps say line backer.

642
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: I's already been said. But you need to bring in

643
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: somebody to compete. You need to bring somebody in to compete.

644
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: I know you have vanders coming back. I know you

645
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Speaker 1: have Michael Parsons in there, and I know you plan

646
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: on having Curse walked down in the box and be

647
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: another six four linebacker whatever he is, six five, Okay,

648
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: you need a veteran linebacker that can come in and

649
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: push the envelope. You don't, even as much as you

650
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: want to rely on Michael Parsons to be who he

651
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: is to be, to Bazuka to make a leap again

652
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: somehow someway from year one a year two. As much

653
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: as you expect vander Esh to be the savvy veteran

654
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: that's sitting in the middle that you just resigned for

655
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 1: one year to come back, you need somebody to challenge

656
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: both of those guys. You need somebody to push Michael

657
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 1: Parsons in terms of his leadership, in terms of his development,

658
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: because you can't just say, oh, he's going to continue

659
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: to stay on that trajectory. You can't just expect that.

660
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 1: You need somebody else for him to learn from. Okay,

661
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: And that's not to say that DQ doesn't teach him.

662
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: That's not to say that you know that other guys

663
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: on the defensive line won't teach him. You need a

664
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: linebacker that he can lean on and get some tips from,

665
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: because as of right now, he has none. He has

666
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: nobody at that position that he can lean on except

667
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: for vander esh Okay, that he can say, Hey, what

668
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 1: should I do in this situation? Right? What do you

669
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: think about this? He's expected to be the best, and

670
00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: I think that's a lot of pressure on him coming

671
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: off the year that he just had. So I would

672
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: love to see the Cowboys bring somebody else in that

673
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: is that you know is going to be a sure thing.

674
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: It's a sure thing. He doesn't have to be a

675
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 1: freaking baller, a beast we're not talking about you know,

676
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: Bobby Wagener's all those guys. Those guys are gone. But

677
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: I'm talking about a sure thing linebacker to everybody in

678
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: the league respects. Minnesota has some guys you're saying that

679
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: are that are probably still hanging around. I believe that

680
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: you could bring in and say that's somebody that he

681
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: can lean on should things get rough or if we

682
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: have a situation where somebody gets injured. Now we know

683
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: we don't have to guess what's the production that we're

684
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: gonna have. Yeah, that's the other thing is contingencies. Because

685
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: Layton played every game last year, I think, which you know,

686
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: he's had some injury problems and yeah, knock on wood,

687
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: you know, good, good for him, and I think he's

688
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: resigning him is big to help this rotation. But if

689
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: something were to happen to him, then that depth takes

690
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: a hit. If something happens on the defensive line like

691
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: it did last year, somebody breaks their foot, DeMarcus Lawrence

692
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 1: breaks his foot in week two, Oh you can move

693
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: Mike and down to the edge, Well, then how you

694
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: fill in that gap? So yeah, I think depth a

695
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: linebacker is definitely something they're they're probably looking at and

696
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: need to look at it. And I like the point

697
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 1: of a veteran for Micah to potentially look up to

698
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: and to kind of have that that growth continue. Layton

699
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: vander Esh's twenty six. Luke Gifford is twenty six. Those

700
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 1: are the two oldest guys in the linebacker room because

701
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: everybody else's Jabil Cox second, your player, Michael Part's the second,

702
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: your player. Devin Harper rookie, Aaron Hansford rookie, Story Jackson rookie.

703
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 1: That's it. That's your linebacker corps right there. Boom, that's youth.

704
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 1: There's a lot of youth there, which is not a

705
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: bad thing, but it's also you would like to have

706
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: somebody in there as a like you said, well rest

707
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 1: perspective player and for depth, because both of which are

708
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: a massive, massive lack at the moment in that linebacker room.

709
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: Our friend Joe says, how make or break is this

710
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: year specifically for the coaching staff? Heck mo When you

711
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: look at Mike McCarthy and Kellen Moore, there's a lot

712
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: of pressure on those guys. How big of it is

713
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: a maker break? And what would what would your expectation

714
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: for a break. Mean, man, I've never found I've never

715
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: seen anybody find the hot seat as fast as Mike

716
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: McCarthy has after the success that he had in the

717
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 1: season and then to have the Sean Payton rumors. I

718
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 1: thought that was crazy, I really did. I thought it

719
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 1: was crazy. I thought it was disrespectful. He handled it

720
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: with grace and class. He didn't, you know, let them

721
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: throw him off. By every interview that I've seen him in,

722
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: he hasn't seemed like he was unnerved by it. But

723
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 1: as a competitor, he's got to have that in his

724
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 1: back pocket where he knows that my team underperformed in

725
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: the playoffs and I have to have them ready. Guys,

726
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: y'all know, I binge watched these Cowboys the seasons and

727
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: I just want to figure out, hell what it is

728
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 1: what's going on with these guys in this offense that

729
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 1: stopped them from getting to the next level. It's just

730
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: a quick We didn't have any quick strikeability in our

731
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 1: offense at all, and I think a lot of that

732
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 1: has been on Mike McCarthy and the They're gonna say

733
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: Kelly Moore, but even Kelly Moore and him are tied

734
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: into together. Really quickly on how this season is going

735
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: to play out. So, you know, I just feel as

736
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: though offensively, Mike McCarthy has got to have his hand

737
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: on the pulse of this offense right now to make

738
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: sure that this season doesn't He doesn't have to go

739
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 1: into through any of those loaves that he had last season.

740
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 1: I think every year unless your name is Jason Garrett

741
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: and I think that you're on the hot seat here

742
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: in Dallas. I mean, and even he found that for

743
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:22,879
Speaker 1: a little bit. He was around for a long time.

744
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: He was so he was around for a long time.

745
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 1: Him and Jerry were obviously they were tight, Okay, So

746
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: he wasn't under the pressure that Mike McCarthy is because

747
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy, to my understanding, Sean Payton lives within what

748
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: a fifteen mile radios from here, So there's a little

749
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 1: bit more pressure when you have somebody that lives in

750
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: the same area that as a highly regarded coach that

751
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: all just happens to be a sitting at the crib

752
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, there's gonna be pressure when you underperform

753
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: by Dallas Cowboys standards with the roster and the health

754
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 1: and everything else that went your way last year and

755
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: you still came up short. You're absolutely gonna be in

756
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: a hot seat when that dude is sitting on the road. Yeah.

757
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: I mean, just just listen back to what Jerry said

758
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: after the season, right after the season when they lost,

759
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,439
Speaker 1: you know, and like that's as good as he felt

760
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: about a team going into the playoffs since the nineties,

761
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 1: as healthy as they were. It was a huge disappointment,

762
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 1: like you and and for Mike too. So yeah, absolutely

763
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,280
Speaker 1: there's pressure. I mean there's pressure on the coaching staff

764
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: every single year. Um, how hot is the seat? We

765
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: got asked that on the mailbag. I don't know. I

766
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: mean you'd have to go upstairs and get inside Jerry

767
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: and Stephen Jones's head to really really know that and

768
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 1: really know if the season doesn't end the way they

769
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: wanted to go this year, what's whether the circumstances around it,

770
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 1: all of that. But absolutely there's pressure, and and you know,

771
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 1: everybody wants to talk about maybe what they didn't do

772
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: to improve the roster. I don't think that changes expectations though.

773
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: I think they're still expected to win the division and

774
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: make a run. You start maybe worse than that. Two

775
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 1: home games, two home games, Yeah, it's heat. I want

776
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 1: to put this scenario right. Are we talk at Bunsen Burner? Now,

777
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 1: where are we on this? Yeah, it'll get there. Also,

778
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:17,280
Speaker 1: reports this morning you can say, yeah, I'm just setting

779
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: on medium a little bit. Reports this morning said that

780
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: there were rumors around the Dolphins that pursued Sean Payton

781
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 1: as their head coach. You see that number, four years,

782
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars is what they offered him, and

783
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: he said, no, where's Yeah, he's on the couch. What

784
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: you can make money in TV? Though, Yeah, that's true.

785
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: Tom Brady's gonna make it an amount of money five years.

786
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: Heck my Harrison money and then I don't know if

787
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: he is really would have announced that by now, Okay,

788
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: that money and he just sitting at the house. We

789
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 1: have to take our second break because we're getting cut

790
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: a little bit short today because mccarthey's press conference. When

791
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: we come back, we're going to continue answering your questions,

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00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,920
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00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:03,440
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794
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:08,280
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795
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Speaker 1: tagged it with nebbi at the end. But uh he yeah,

847
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: he says he believes Jauncy can replace Randy Gregory's production. Heck,

848
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: when do you believe that that's a possibility? You know?

849
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: Looking at at Chauncey Golston, he damn sure looks impressive. Um,

850
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 1: he looks like a guy in the second year that

851
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 1: can have a breakout season. I think for the presents

852
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: that Randy Gregory had on this team last year, playmaking ability,

853
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be a by committee from a

854
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: few guys. I don't know if we can depend on

855
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,439
Speaker 1: just one guy per se uh to fill that gap

856
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: with what Randy Gregory meant to this team, And maybe

857
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: it'd be unfair to expect that also, so I'm looking forward.

858
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: That's why I say Dante Fowler is going to be important,

859
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: Terrell bash him. Guys like that are going to be

860
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 1: important as well. So, um, you know, I think that

861
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 1: Chauncey Gholston is going to have an impact. I don't

862
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 1: know if it's going to be on the same tier

863
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 1: as Randy Gregory. Yeah, oh go ahead. Presence and production

864
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:12,760
Speaker 1: are two separate words. I don't feel that Randy Gregory

865
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:16,760
Speaker 1: was that productive. I feel like he had a great presence.

866
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: I felt like people knew what he was capable of.

867
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 1: I feel like if he if you pissed him off

868
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 1: and you hit his easy button, he'll run through your

869
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 1: whole face right and get to the quarterback when he

870
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: wanted to. But it's not something that was always there,

871
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 1: So can somebody I don't know about ghosten in particular,

872
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 1: but can somebody on this roster have the same production?

873
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: I do believe, So, I do believe. So I think

874
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 1: it's probably gonna come in the form of Fowler, right

875
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 1: in terms of somebody who's going to be designated at

876
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: that position and they're asked and tasked to go get

877
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: the quarterback. Randy Gregory had six sacks last year, six

878
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 1: Daurn's Armstrong had five exactly. So when we started talking

879
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: about production, presence production two separate words. So production wise, yes,

880
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: I believe somebody else and somebody else. Keep your eye

881
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 1: on Sam Williams. I can't wait to see his due

882
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,919
Speaker 1: with Pasla. Yeah, that's why Heck's talking about committee because

883
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 1: there's a lot of guys and and even Randy last year,

884
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 1: like he's not playing sixty snaps and that is a

885
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 1: rotation plan that dan Quinn has. He's always had it

886
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: for his defensive line. So I'm looking at Dante Fowler first,

887
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 1: and I know like his biggest production years have been

888
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: when he's had like pro Bowl guys around him. I

889
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: get it. PFF says he's had thirty pressures in each

890
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 1: of the last two years. That's what Randy got last

891
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: year and I'm kind of looking at Dorance Armstrong too,

892
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: is can he take another step forward? And if he does,

893
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: because you said five sacks, I think he had twenty

894
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 1: two pressures. He could turn out to be kind of

895
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: a moneyball signing where it's like, yeah, you don't resigned

896
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 1: Randy for fIF seventy million, but you signed Durrance for

897
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: two years and fourteen, you signed Dante Fowler and you

898
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: kind of piece this in together. Sam Williams is part

899
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: of the rotation year one, and you're recreating that production

900
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:55,399
Speaker 1: with three or four guys and you look at Dorance, Terrell,

901
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: Basham's in the fold again, Dante Faller, Junior DeMarcus Lawrence,

902
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 1: Sam Williams, and then there's Gholston down there at the bottom.

903
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: He's gonna play a lot of inside too. I mean,

904
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 1: that's kind of what he said. And I mean, Heck

905
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 1: and I were at practice when we were like, man,

906
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: that guy's a big dude. I mean, he put on

907
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: twenty pounds, so I mean, and there's no doubt in

908
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,439
Speaker 1: my mind that it's a full twenty because he's gonna

909
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: play a lot of five technique. He may even slide

910
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: inside and play three. He's talked about the possibility of

911
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: doing that, and dan Quinn has certainly built him to

912
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: that moving into his second year. So the impact will

913
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,399
Speaker 1: be there, Can the presence be there? I think I'm

914
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:34,280
Speaker 1: right there with you. But great question, Nebbi. Is Kelvin

915
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 1: Joseph going to be cornerback to at some point here

916
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 1: in his second year as well? Jordie Jordan asked this

917
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: on Twitter. Or even if he's not get some more reps,

918
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 1: that's the biggest thing. He's got to get some snaps

919
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: because last year he was not a huge part of

920
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: this defense. But Isaiah, you had a great reaction when

921
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: you saw Kelvin or you heard the name Kelvin Joseph.

922
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,919
Speaker 1: Do you think he can take that second year? Joe Current,

923
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 1: I do not. I don't have that faith in my

924
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 1: current state. I believe that a Brown is still the

925
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 1: man over there as a number two. I think he

926
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: was very productive last year, you know, and people start

927
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: looking at these cornerbacks, so you know, they look at

928
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: their productivity in the form of interceptions. This defense had

929
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 1: a lot of them last year. But that's not the

930
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: only way in which you impact this game. You impact

931
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 1: this game by being a pest you impact this game

932
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: by by being a run stopper, by being where you're

933
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: supposed to be, by using a sideline to your advantage,

934
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: as a whole lot of other areas that these cornerbacks

935
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 1: can have impact, and I just don't feel like I've

936
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: seen enough from Kelvin Joseph in that regard yet. And

937
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: that's also looking at him in a special teams game. Hey,

938
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 1: you started utilizing him a lot towards the end there,

939
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,720
Speaker 1: but I didn't see the impact. I saw a player

940
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 1: out there, but I didn't see him having an impact

941
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 1: at that even in specialist as a specialist. So I'm

942
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,320
Speaker 1: looking forward to watching him in camp, if you know,

943
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 1: if everything stays the way it stays right now in

944
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: terms of his status and seeing what his development looks like,

945
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 1: he's in a position to compete. Let's see what I

946
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 1: think the coaching staff wants to see him take the

947
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: next step. I think they came into the season wanting

948
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: to see him pressure Anthony Brown for starter. I think

949
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown just played his butt off and kept him

950
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: on the bench and made it hard for him to

951
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 1: crack that defensive rotation. Kelvin Joseph has to work as

952
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:19,879
Speaker 1: well on the field, he has to do some things

953
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 1: on special teams. He has to improve a lot. Man.

954
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 1: In my experience with defensive coaches, if your alignment assignment

955
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: is off and you're getting beat deep, they will yank you.

956
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 1: And especially if you're a rookie, that is a very

957
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 1: short leash because Kelvin Joseph just doesn't have the experience.

958
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: They're guys like Nash and Wright that we talked about

959
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 1: during OTAs in training camp. We just thought that this

960
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,439
Speaker 1: guy was going to be someone that could pressure Anthony Brown. Again,

961
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: just back to who what the job that he did? Now,

962
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: I gotta ask you guys like for Jordan Lewis, who's

963
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: played a lot of slot, that's where I think the

964
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 1: pressure for where Kelvin Joseph can be most effective. If

965
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: he can play inside, that's interesting, you know, be an

966
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 1: outside guy right going back to college. But he's got

967
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 1: I mean, look position flexibility. No, for sure, absolutely, we

968
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 1: talk about it. I mean, and I understand you one

969
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 1: two guy, but you need another guy to pressure there

970
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 1: as well. And again, Jordan Lewis did a heck of

971
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 1: a job holding guys off because going into camp he

972
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 1: also had some pressure. So look for Kelvin Joseph, and

973
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 1: he's had a really bad offseason for the Optics. You know,

974
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: is his reliability going to be there? There's got to

975
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,399
Speaker 1: be some maturity issue questions that they ask as well,

976
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 1: but he's going to have to do a lot to

977
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: show this coach of staff that he can be relied upon. Yeah,

978
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 1: I think we're talking just from a strictly football perspective.

979
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 1: Because you mentioned that there's a legal matter. We'll go

980
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: back to the spring we talked about it. He hasn't

981
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 1: been a wrestler or charge or anything, but we know

982
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 1: from history the NFL can look into things too and

983
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: maybe hand down a suspension or fine. You never know,

984
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: so that's always looming out there. But just from a

985
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 1: football perspective, like I think Anthony Brown and Jordan Lewis

986
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: you can argue had career seasons last year like they Yeah,

987
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 1: maybe they felt the pressure and they delivered and played

988
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,399
Speaker 1: the best of their career. So I don't really see

989
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 1: Kelvin Joseph holding either guy off. But I do think

990
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 1: he's got talent and I think he missed a lot

991
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 1: of time last year that probably set him back, and

992
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 1: so I think he's somebody to watch that. Maybe because

993
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:13,919
Speaker 1: you saw it a little bit late in the season.

994
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 1: He saw him kind of getting there in certain packages

995
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: and maybe that will continue. He played one hundred and

996
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:21,839
Speaker 1: sixty five defensive snaps last season. That is a number

997
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 1: that needs to go up, I mean quite a bit.

998
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,320
Speaker 1: Doesn't mean he could be the starter. Kind of like

999
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: what you guys are saying. If you want Anthony Brown

1000
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 1: and you want Jordan Lewis to play as well as

1001
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: they did last year, however, you also want Kelvin Joseph

1002
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: to play at a higher level. So that way you

1003
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: have four guys that you really feel comfortable interchanging and

1004
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 1: going up against some of the better wide receivers in

1005
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: the NFL. And that's exactly what you have with the

1006
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 1: secondary if they all play at a high level. But

1007
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 1: that doesn't for us here on talking cowboys. Gotta get

1008
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 1: out of here a little bit early today. Who's kicking

1009
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 1: us off the air? The head coach, who's a lot,

1010
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: The head's a lot, Who's who's who's who's challenging? And positions? Right?

1011
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 1: Double m Really come on? Yeah, we can talk about

1012
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: all this, but we'll talk about it at at a

1013
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: later date. We'll save it and there's a lot of

1014
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,879
Speaker 1: stuff we can talk about. Maybe an ox Stard maybe

1015
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 1: next week, who knows. I don't know when we're our

1016
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: last show? Is they have this is your last show?

1017
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 1: This is the last the last show. Wow, thanks, Nobody

1018
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 1: told me so has no tact you know, get out

1019
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 1: of here. You know, no that JR. Tell you. This

1020
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 1: is the last week. Mini camps, last week. We don't

1021
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: have any extra days. Blues a crack. Yeah, there's some

1022
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:44,320
Speaker 1: over quality guys to another season. We will see the school.

1023
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Speaker 1: It is the end of school and I didn't know

1024
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 1: it was coming. Everybody, it's been fun. We will see

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Speaker 1: you next time on Talking Cowboys. Everybody that listens to

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