WEBVTT - #528 - Cody Jinks on Why People Think He’s Mean + The Reason He Quit Drinking + From Playing 200 Shows a Year to Spending More Time with Family + How an Identity Crisis Led To a Big Mistake 0:00:06.760 --> 0:00:08.760 I went and did a show in Alabama for seven 0:00:08.800 --> 0:00:09.960 thousand people the next night. 0:00:10.000 --> 0:00:11.719 Nobody knew it was me when I walked down on stage. 0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:15.000 It was the weirdest thing I can ever remember happening 0:00:15.040 --> 0:00:17.360 in my life. Because I was already messed up. I 0:00:17.440 --> 0:00:20.279 just thought, Oh my god, what am I doing? Who 0:00:20.400 --> 0:00:21.280 am I like? 0:00:21.440 --> 0:00:23.880 Who is this character? 0:00:26.520 --> 0:00:30.560 Welcome to episode five twenty eight with Cody Jinks. He's 0:00:30.600 --> 0:00:34.239 a native of Haltham City in Fort Worth, Texas, and 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:36.239 he still lives in Texas, right yep. So when he 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:38.400 comes around, he's just like coming up to do all 0:00:38.440 --> 0:00:39.160 the Nashville stuff. 0:00:39.159 --> 0:00:40.599 Then heading back home knocks it all out. 0:00:40.640 --> 0:00:42.640 That's kind of the dream, Like if this is not 0:00:42.760 --> 0:00:44.920 your home, then you don't have to like move somewhere, 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:46.760 because a lot of people they have to. We had 0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:49.080 to move here, and I like it here now. But 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:52.120 it's kind of the dream to be Texas and stay 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:53.920 in Texas. I mean, Parker McAll him, just moved back 0:00:53.920 --> 0:00:55.440 to Texas living back there? 0:00:55.600 --> 0:00:56.240 Would you do that? 0:00:56.320 --> 0:00:58.880 Like with Arkansas? You just come here like once a month. 0:00:59.680 --> 0:01:01.200 I need to come here, though once a month. I 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:05.240 don't think just stay there. I think this now is home. 0:01:05.400 --> 0:01:07.760 But I would move to Faetteville. Probably when did it 0:01:07.760 --> 0:01:09.679 feel like home to you? Because it's like just started 0:01:09.680 --> 0:01:11.080 to feel like home to me in like the last 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:14.560 one or two years. Yesterday, Yeah, yesterday it did. For 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:17.119 the first house, like dangs feels like home. Uh, probably 0:01:17.160 --> 0:01:21.520 whenever Caitlin moved here, because then I had a reason 0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:23.600 to look forward to coming home. Otherwise it was just 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:25.800 like a nice house in a city that I was 0:01:25.840 --> 0:01:28.720 at sometimes. But yeah, that's the dream. I like Cody 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:30.399 Jinks a lot. If you see him, you could be 0:01:30.400 --> 0:01:33.880 intimidated by him. Covered in tattoos, got the beard, I mean, 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:38.000 did play in thrash metal bands? What's the difference in 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:41.320 thrash and like heavy thrash is like a lot faster 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:42.080 than the drums are, Like. 0:01:43.200 --> 0:01:44.440 Oh, I do know the drums. 0:01:45.360 --> 0:01:47.600 Thinking about Cody though, he's made his own path, he's 0:01:47.680 --> 0:01:49.720 kind of killing it and we spent an hour talking 0:01:49.760 --> 0:01:51.680 about that. He has a new album out that is 0:01:51.800 --> 0:01:54.960 called In My Blood, just came out on Friday. He 0:01:55.080 --> 0:01:57.320 is on his Hippies and Cowboys tour that kicked off 0:01:57.320 --> 0:01:58.880 at the end of May, and you can go and 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:01.880 watch him. He's also doing two headlining shows at the 0:02:01.960 --> 0:02:05.040 Chelsea at the Cosmo in Vegas, December twelfth and thirteenth. 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:07.400 Here he is Cody Jinks. 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:09.440 Cody, good to see you. 0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:12.880 Likewise, thank you, thank you so much for having me 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:14.359 and hosting. 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:15.680 Do you feel like people? 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:17.560 And I'm going to ask this because my answer to 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:19.320 you is yes, and I feel like the answer to 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:21.000 me is yes. But do you feel like people get 0:02:21.040 --> 0:02:22.840 the wrong impression of you before they meet you? 0:02:23.160 --> 0:02:23.440 Yes? 0:02:24.080 --> 0:02:27.200 Because I did, because you've done the show before and 0:02:27.240 --> 0:02:29.880 I found you quite delightful, which is not what I 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:31.320 thought I would think about having you. 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:34.120 Say can I say diddo? You can say whatever you want. 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:37.120 I actually, after the first time we spoke, I've left 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:40.480 going I was like, oh man, I like that guy same. 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:43.400 And it's not that I didn't expect. I didn't expect 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:46.079 you to like me. And because I didn't expect you 0:02:46.160 --> 0:02:48.560 to like me, because you're Cody freaking Jinx right, and 0:02:48.600 --> 0:02:52.440 you got a big beard and it's like you're independent 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:55.480 f everything, And I'm like that kind of dude doesn't 0:02:55.520 --> 0:02:57.480 know my story, so he's gonna think he doesn't like me, 0:02:57.520 --> 0:03:00.320 so I don't like him. That's how I felt the 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:02.880 first time I met you and you left. I remember 0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:05.639 telling everybody like, that's my new best friend, Like I 0:03:05.680 --> 0:03:06.480 love that dude. 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:08.919 So that's my takeaway from the last time. 0:03:09.280 --> 0:03:11.839 I agree. No, I appreciate that. No, I did. 0:03:11.960 --> 0:03:15.520 I liked you and and God and this is so 0:03:15.720 --> 0:03:18.840 bad man. And I'm just being completely honest. In this business, 0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:22.519 so oftentimes it's not that you want to like, I'm 0:03:22.520 --> 0:03:24.720 not even gonna want to lock that person or dislike 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:26.480 that person or whatever. 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:30.560 But you you're like, oh, I was surprised. 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:30.760 Again. 0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:33.120 I've been doing this twenty five years and it's like, oh, yeah, no, 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:35.080 he was cool. Okay, good, good, awesome. 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:38.600 It's cool to me when a preconceived notion that gets 0:03:38.840 --> 0:03:41.360 very conceived because I'm jaded a bit by the industry 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:43.720 good and bad ways. You meet so many people, and 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:46.160 there's a reason cliches are cliche for the most part, 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:50.880 because things in this world that you think of one 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:52.000 way usually end up being. 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:53.760 That way, usually not always. 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:57.560 And No, I found you to be really cerebral. I 0:03:57.600 --> 0:04:01.920 found you to be quite generous and kind with your time, 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:05.680 and you just don't look like you'd be It's the 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:09.600 tattoos and the biker beard and your story. 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:12.600 You know, it's it's funny that you say that, and 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:16.480 I do get that quite a bit. My daughter is 0:04:16.520 --> 0:04:19.920 a teenager, and recently, within the last few months, you know, 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:22.039 she said, I've been I've been home. 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:23.680 We just started our tour, but I've been home a 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:24.400 great deal of time. 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:28.719 And she's been in dance competition season, and she thought 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:31.960 that I was not enjoying going to these dance competitions 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:35.960 because I stand there like that, Yeah, just just straight yeah. 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:37.960 And that's that's just that's just me. 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:41.920 So whenever this guy is just standing there like this, 0:04:42.960 --> 0:04:45.159 and she goes, dad, you look mad and pissed off 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:47.960 all the time. And and and I think that the 0:04:48.000 --> 0:04:50.400 other young lady she dances with her, he's used. They're 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:52.320 used to me now, but the parents are as well. 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:55.080 But I guess it just looks like I'm always pissed off. 0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:57.400 And she goes, you just look mad all the time. 0:04:57.400 --> 0:04:59.520 And I was like, Casey, Casey, I was just talking 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:02.839 to my sister. Case I was like, Meredith, you know 0:05:02.880 --> 0:05:07.000 how long it's taken me to look like this, and 0:05:07.040 --> 0:05:11.160 how much of my life I've been you know, beat up, 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:14.400 And so you know, I kind of have a and 0:05:14.839 --> 0:05:16.680 like you said beat. In this business, you have kind 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:19.000 of a you get jaded in good ways and in 0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:22.440 bad ways, and that's it's so it's it's funny that 0:05:22.480 --> 0:05:24.600 you say that, because I just had that conversation with 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:26.960 my almost sixteen year old daughters like. 0:05:27.440 --> 0:05:32.000 I'm I may look like that or you know this. 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:35.040 I was like, but I'm watching you do your solo 0:05:35.279 --> 0:05:36.760 and I'm trying not to tear up. 0:05:36.800 --> 0:05:38.240 I was like, did you just need to hear me 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:40.440 say that? Like does that help? 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:42.560 And yes it did. 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:45.000 Actually, So I was like, I'm not talking to people 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:48.960 because I'm enjoying watching you perform. You know, it's beautiful 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:51.760 and I love it. And I've been gone on the 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:54.560 road for a lot of my kids lives. So the 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:58.600 baseball games, in the ballet recitals, the parents are all nice, 0:05:58.640 --> 0:05:59.480 they're all great people. 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:00.640 Kids are great. 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:01.600 You know it. 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:04.800 Just after a while they realized, oh, you can go 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:05.400 talk to him. 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:09.080 And it may take halfway through the season because I 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:11.479 don't talk. I don't just sit down and talk to people. Dude, say, 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:13.080 you know, if if. 0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:14.960 Somebody walks up and says something, I love it. 0:06:15.000 --> 0:06:16.760 Intelligence If you walk up and you want to talk 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:19.919 about fishing or Hey, what do you walk up and 0:06:19.960 --> 0:06:21.240 ask me what book I'm reading? 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:24.800 Bro Like, I'll be like, let's go, let's. 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:28.760 Talk, you know, but yeah, it's it's I don't seem 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:33.280 approachable oftentimes, but I enjoy a great conversation. I'm far 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:36.320 better one on one than I am in social scenarios. 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:37.640 I'm very socially awkward. 0:06:38.720 --> 0:06:42.560 Same weird because we both have jobs that are The 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:47.800 job itself is that of an extreme extrovert, the job 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:53.960 on the stage. I would find that people at times 0:06:54.000 --> 0:06:56.440 would send me a DM going, hey, I saw you 0:06:56.520 --> 0:06:59.000 so and so, and you just weren't that nice. Now, 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:01.960 I have never not be nice to anybody that appreciates 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:04.640 what I do. If it's right books, if it's do podcasts, 0:07:04.640 --> 0:07:06.520 if it's too stand up. I've never, ever, ever not 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:08.200 been nice. And I'd be like, well where was I, 0:07:08.240 --> 0:07:09.440 they would say, and I said, why did I talk 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:12.120 to anybody there? Like then it comes, But I think 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:16.119 I have, like, deep down in my guts, the feeling 0:07:16.200 --> 0:07:18.440 that nobody really wants me around anyway, so I don't 0:07:18.440 --> 0:07:21.400 bother anybody. I'm a wallflower. I could see how someone 0:07:21.440 --> 0:07:23.960 would see me and go oh, but they didn't talk 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:26.840 to me like, say, but go back to what you 0:07:26.880 --> 0:07:27.840 said right before that. 0:07:27.920 --> 0:07:32.440 I assume deep down nobody wants me there anyway. Part 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:35.560 of my job as an entertainers, as the gester is 0:07:35.720 --> 0:07:38.960 I've I've earned my way through life entertaining well. 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:40.160 The gest are part of me too. 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:42.440 I'm I have great confidence in that part of me 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:44.960 when I'm there to do that, specifically, when I'm to 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:47.120 be a normal human, I feel like I have three 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:51.600 arms and four eyeballs me too and so, and because 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:53.800 of that, I don't go I'm just not I won't 0:07:53.800 --> 0:07:56.360 say not friendly, but I'm not bothersome. It's what it 0:07:56.360 --> 0:07:58.200 feels like to me. I'm not gonna be I'm not 0:07:58.200 --> 0:08:00.280 gonna bother anybody. So people will go like, man, what 0:08:00.360 --> 0:08:02.560 a dick. I'm like, I know, just say something. 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:03.360 Isn't that funny? 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:06.240 I'm the same way, and people are like I think 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:09.880 people are. It's it's off putting to people because they assume, yeah, 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:13.600 what a dick, and like and I've been in scenarios. 0:08:13.080 --> 0:08:16.880 Worth man, I don't remember anybody saying anything. 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:20.360 To me at all because I've, like you said, while ago, 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:24.080 I've never I've never not been if some of it 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:26.000 is not being mean to me. I've never not been 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:28.560 nice intentionally to somebody just for the sake of not 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:30.920 being nice or we all have our days and things 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:31.440 of that nature. 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:35.000 But like, dude, I don't say mean things to people. 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:38.440 I actually appreciate when people appreciate what I do, because 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:39.840 it's that's what I work so. 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:40.280 Hard to do. 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:43.080 I am the first one to if you walk, I 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:45.120 love any It never bothers. 0:08:44.800 --> 0:08:48.760 Me with people at airports wherever. When I'm eating, Oh no, 0:08:48.800 --> 0:08:49.720 I don't want to. I don't want that. 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:52.400 I don't want it. But I never see anything mean. 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:53.840 I may say fair enough. 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:56.480 I may say, hey, man, I'm trying to have a 0:08:56.520 --> 0:09:01.000 meal with my family. I'd love I'd love to give me, 0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:03.560 give me thirty minutes, dude, you know, let me have 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:07.400 I'll do that and and I'll go over and what 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:08.480 interrupt his meal later. 0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:11.800 But you know, uh, that's a general role too. 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:16.000 I'll share with people that, hey, if somebody's creating something, 0:09:16.000 --> 0:09:18.960 they like to be appreciated for the creation. However, the 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:20.480 two times that I would not go up to a 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:23.800 celebrity if they're in public is when they're eating or 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:24.520 with their kids. 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:25.000 Kids. 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:27.600 Those are those are universally the two that I say, 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:28.360 don't do it. 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:29.920 Me neither me, neither not. 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:33.160 Everybody can control themselves. And I think that you've probably 0:09:33.240 --> 0:09:35.959 run into that too. People like kind of they just 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:39.000 kind of like oh, and they just gravitate to you, 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:40.520 and all of a sudden they're there and they're and 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:43.920 then they're having a moment where they're saying, I don't 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:45.600 want to be that person. I didn't mean to be 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:47.760 the fangirl, and you know, and it's like, well, you know, 0:09:47.800 --> 0:09:51.840 and it's and it's happening and and and you know, okay, 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:55.080 and you listen to them and they thank you for 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:57.200 what you do, and thank them and. 0:09:58.640 --> 0:10:01.040 Have a good day. I don't want this to come off. 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:02.599 And I think both of us are coming from the 0:10:02.640 --> 0:10:07.439 same place, like I couldn't appreciate more when someone relates 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:12.200 and enjoys is entertained by something I do. And we 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:15.360 don't have kids yet, but I do eat, and it's 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:19.559 like nobody wants to have somebody come over the top 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:22.439 of them and like spit in their food, but we 0:10:22.480 --> 0:10:25.160 do appreciate when someone comes up. I've never I'll say 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:27.000 it this way, I've never met somebody who creates who 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:28.920 doesn't appreciate somebody coming up to them and saying, hey, 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:31.720 I appreciate what you do. Like every single person I 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:34.600 know that does music or comedy or any kind of art, 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:36.760 they like it when people come up and say, hey, 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:38.679 I'm a fan. The only two times I would say 0:10:38.720 --> 0:10:40.280 not to do that is food and kids. 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:43.840 Yeah, and the people, like you said, the people that create, 0:10:44.200 --> 0:10:48.320 even if they're maybe because oftentimes, you know, people will 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:51.920 walk up and they may get nothing more from me 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:54.960 than a handshake and a thank you very much. 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:56.200 I really appreciate that. 0:10:57.840 --> 0:11:00.839 But I'm saying that because thank you very much, because 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:03.000 I really appreciate it. Maybe all I have to say 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:05.600 about it, but I love to hear that. And even 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:09.000 if you just get a thanks man like No, that's 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:13.440 like our guitar player Chris from Walks a Hatchie, that's 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:14.320 where That's where Mike's from. 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:16.480 Yeah, yeah, we. 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:19.040 Were just talking about that and uh and and then 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:21.520 the fort work for for I came to my hometown 0:11:21.880 --> 0:11:26.280 for Worth. But our guitar player Chris, he's one of 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:29.360 those guys people obviously, he doesn't say anything. He's been 0:11:29.360 --> 0:11:31.679 with us years and years and we've had like four conversations, 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:37.680 and he's one of those guys that he's like thanks man, and. 0:11:38.080 --> 0:11:41.160 That's he's he loves it. You just made his whole day. 0:11:41.200 --> 0:11:44.079 But all you get is thanks man. You know he's 0:11:44.160 --> 0:11:45.280 up there talking with his guitar. 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:49.560 So that's value. Yeah, especially if Mike doesn't talk, not 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:52.120 a whole lot. Yeah, I mean doesn't talk. 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:53.720 Yeah, well it still waters man. 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:57.319 I'm not sure why doesn't talk, because he's a brilliant. 0:11:56.960 --> 0:11:59.600 Guy, but yeah, smart dude gotta like pull on it and 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:01.240 be like hey man, so you won. 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:03.640 Those are the best kind of people though. I've found, 0:12:03.840 --> 0:12:07.199 like my wife is is like that not I mean, 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:13.800 you know, it's it's I've been captivated by her because 0:12:13.840 --> 0:12:16.240 there's so much more going on than I know. And 0:12:16.280 --> 0:12:19.240 so that's why I still want to be around hers, 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:22.480 because like I'm still I'm still trying to solve that 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:26.880 that thing because she's she's very much that kind of character. 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:27.600 Are you are? 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:29.840 Are you a Capricorn? 0:12:30.559 --> 0:12:32.080 Cancer? You're cancer? Okay? 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:33.920 Yeah, man, I don't know any of that means. 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:34.520 You know, I don't either. 0:12:35.040 --> 0:12:37.320 I don't, but I know my wife's a Capricorn. 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:39.880 So I was just throwing darks there got it? 0:12:40.040 --> 0:12:43.600 What Yeah, yeah, yeah, so I know, mention of music. 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:46.280 What are three things that you are super interested in 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:49.800 and you love No music, no, no music even nothing could 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:51.160 be even music adjacent? 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:52.239 Yeah, no, no worries. 0:12:52.080 --> 0:12:57.920 No, I got I got the hunting and fishing fishing first, 0:12:57.960 --> 0:13:01.880 you know, but I'll categorize those as as the same thing, 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:07.280 the hunting and fish, and that would well, that would 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:11.640 be the second thing. Family has been a super huge 0:13:11.679 --> 0:13:13.160 focus for me the last couple of years. 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:14.199 I've really spent. 0:13:16.280 --> 0:13:20.800 Time and focus and and effort and h and trying 0:13:20.840 --> 0:13:25.400 to be a better husband and father, hunting and fishing 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:28.480 after that, and I think, I think thirdly, you know, 0:13:28.720 --> 0:13:33.800 I'm I'm taking better care of myself mentally and spiritually 0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:37.840 and physically as well. That's that's become a big focus 0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:41.280 for me. I spent a lot of my life in 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:46.400 a haze, and so I'm able to to take care 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:50.439 of I have more bandwidth now and so I'm able 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:55.880 to to take care of everything better, including myself. 0:13:55.920 --> 0:13:57.480 And so I think my family and. 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:02.920 Taking care of myself being getting out into nature, you know, 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:05.960 getting a rod and reel and you know, that's that's 0:14:06.679 --> 0:14:10.160 that's a really spiritual thing for me, and outdoors people get. 0:14:10.040 --> 0:14:13.280 That, what is your favorite kind of fishing? 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:15.640 I grew up bass fishing. I grew up in a 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:18.240 john boat on stock tanks, and I remember my dad 0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:20.240 got his first bass boat. We got a seventy nine 0:14:20.280 --> 0:14:26.320 Skeeter whenever I was fifteen, and an old tryhole, tryhole skeeter, 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:29.600 and that's when we started fishing big water. We got 0:14:29.600 --> 0:14:33.960 into striper fishing, and uh that all everything spawned from 0:14:33.960 --> 0:14:37.200 bass fishing, though, but I I fish all the. 0:14:37.160 --> 0:14:38.640 Time still still. 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:42.040 If I'm at home, I'll fish at least twice a week. 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:46.960 But I'll fish for everything I usually I love. Well, 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:49.960 I was just cat. I was cat fishing with my 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:53.120 buddy before I got here, before I left on this trip, 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:56.600 and then I was fishing with my I was crappie 0:14:56.600 --> 0:14:59.520 fishing with my dad, and so I planned on doing 0:14:59.520 --> 0:15:00.760 some bass fish when I get home. 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:02.800 My stepdad was a striper guide. 0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:04.400 Oh gosh, yeah, man. 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:08.560 To me the best, and I spent all my kid 0:15:08.640 --> 0:15:11.840 life in the woods or on the water. I know 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:14.400 you're watching this and judging me of I'm a nice 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:16.760 card again that I wear now, But I'm just a 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:22.080 redneck from Arkansas. My stepdad though, was a striper guide 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:25.160 after he worked at the mill, so on the weekends 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:27.080 in the evenings he was a striper guide, and then 0:15:27.080 --> 0:15:29.640 when he retired, he continued to be a striper guide. 0:15:30.440 --> 0:15:32.720 To me, that is the most fun because those are 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:35.280 the biggest. But for my mom died and we still 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:37.640 have it. I think she got a forty two pound striper. 0:15:37.800 --> 0:15:41.080 That's it's huge and he and it's bigger than any 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:43.200 that my stepdad had caught. And he has like seven 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:46.160 or eight that are that he had mounted just for 0:15:46.240 --> 0:15:48.960 business purposes that were like in the thirties. Yeah, my 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:51.920 mom had a forty two pound striper. So striper fishing 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:54.280 was my favorite. Now when you would get the highbrid. 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:57.160 I don't know anybody that's ever caught a forty two 0:15:57.240 --> 0:15:58.480 I know guides that don't have. 0:15:58.640 --> 0:16:00.600 I mean I know a guide my step who doesn't 0:16:00.600 --> 0:16:02.960 have a for it. Yeah, my mom freaking caught it 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:03.640 before she died. 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:05.920 My uh. 0:16:06.280 --> 0:16:08.480 And and so we do a bunch of hybrid Did 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:09.240 you ever catch shad? 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:10.760 Uh? 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:15.120 You know, no, we used them, but we would pay 0:16:15.160 --> 0:16:17.200 for a guy to give us the shad. 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:19.240 So I had to because we would catch our own 0:16:19.240 --> 0:16:21.320 shad and then keep us throwing the net yep and 0:16:21.320 --> 0:16:24.760 and keep onlightbl they'd only stayed alive for twelve hours. Sure, 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:26.960 so there, but so you'd see him flicker on the 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:30.640 top and I'd have to drive the boat sometimes before 0:16:30.680 --> 0:16:31.920 school to catch the shad. 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:33.120 It's hardcore. 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:35.960 It's hardcore, especially when you're like twelve and he's on 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:37.320 the front of the boat with the net that throw 0:16:37.400 --> 0:16:39.480 net that you it's hard to throw because that's spread perfectly, 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:41.720 sink down, you pull it back up and catch the shad. 0:16:41.720 --> 0:16:44.800 He's going to use those throughout the day. And but 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:47.200 when you're twe A many times I dumped on the water. 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:47.920 You know what's. 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:50.360 Funny that you say that is because I'm just having 0:16:50.520 --> 0:16:52.640 my dad being in the front of the boat on 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:55.720 the flipping deck saying all right, boy, back up just. 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:58.400 A little bit and in him, you know, because I. 0:16:58.360 --> 0:17:02.800 Just want yeah exactly, You're like, there was no moderation 0:17:02.920 --> 0:17:04.680 for us and that young in a boat. 0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:05.800 It's funny. 0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:07.960 I just had that that menage that mental image. 0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:11.360 Uh that So we did one and then hybrids were 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:15.440 fun because white bass dripper they fight hard. 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:16.080 Even not as big. 0:17:16.160 --> 0:17:19.000 Absolutely, the white bass kind of sucked a lot of 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:21.679 a lot of bass fishing, which is the you know, 0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:25.840 black bass, depending on a large mouth. But we lived 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:29.760 near a ramp, and when the trout truck would drive by, 0:17:30.800 --> 0:17:32.880 and I went to school. I graduated in ninety eight, 0:17:33.280 --> 0:17:35.600 so in probably like ninety six, we'd see the trout 0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:38.240 truck drive by. That would stock and our school was 0:17:38.280 --> 0:17:39.880 just like, yeah, we understand, just leave whenever you see 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:40.280 a drive back. 0:17:40.280 --> 0:17:41.840 I used to skip school to go fishing. 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:43.320 Not skip, it wasn't skipped. The school would know. The 0:17:43.359 --> 0:17:44.920 school would go, oh, you guys all the trout truck 0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:45.679 just can your car and go. 0:17:45.920 --> 0:17:46.560 So we would go. 0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:51.160 And then as soon as they would dump, just ripping 0:17:51.240 --> 0:17:55.240 off yep. So that and then the best eating. 0:17:55.000 --> 0:17:55.960 Was crappy, for sure. 0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:57.080 Absolutely crappy is the best. 0:17:57.119 --> 0:17:57.760 It's the best eating. 0:17:57.760 --> 0:18:01.679 Absolutely crappy is the best for eating fish. The trout 0:18:02.400 --> 0:18:05.080 in Texas, see, you guys were a little you guys 0:18:05.080 --> 0:18:07.800 could get more. The trout would stay longer after they 0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:10.240