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Speaker 1: It is Monday, July thirteenth, twenty twenty, and it is time,

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Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen for Morning Combat. Welcome everyone. My name

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Speaker 1: is Luke Thomas. I am one half of your hosting duo.

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Speaker 1: Brian Campbell. Top O the morning to you BC.

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Speaker 4: Hashtag? Fired up? As usual? Luke, fun fight card over

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Speaker 1: Kamaru Usman defends his UFC welterweight title by defeating Jorge

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Speaker 1: not the issue, BC. The issue is fans are upset.

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Speaker 4: Horiy Masvedl stole the show on the build to this fight, right.

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Speaker 4: I know Kamara Usman's corney, let's be honest. He's a

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Speaker 4: You got to point out Jorge Mosmital to a certain degree.

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Speaker 4: He doubled down on himself with a short training camp

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Speaker 4: if your analysis Usman's boring, Well, your guy Mosvel didn't

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Speaker 4: get that second chance though. This was his double down moment.

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Speaker 4: Credit to him for having the balls, But you didn't

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna I don't know that I would disagree

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Speaker 1: bit easier said than done for my very comfortable chair here,

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Speaker 1: but just the same. It's like, is he maximizing every

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Speaker 1: We keep blaming Jorge for this, We're blaming Kamaru for this.

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Speaker 1: We're saying maybe it just is what it is, dude, UFC.

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Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, understand something here.

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Speaker 1: If you are Kamaru Usman, right, you don't have a

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Speaker 1: you lose that title, you go from hero to zero immediately.

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Speaker 1: Your pay gets cut substantially, your place on cards get

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Speaker 1: cut substantially. Right, if you lose the fight, you also

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Speaker 1: get half of your pay. So let me get this straight.

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Speaker 1: You have to get your full pay. You have to win,

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Speaker 4: I was gonna spit it on you, but you hit me.

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Speaker 4: I think both of those fights you mentioned are perfect.

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Speaker 4: He wanted nothing to do with Covington, but that's a

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Speaker 4: great fight. Both just lost to the champion. You have

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Speaker 4: So both would make great fights. But I think it's

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Speaker 4: fair to ask if you're the UFC and you're looking

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Speaker 4: I scored three rounds to do. For Max Holloway, I

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Speaker 4: Because in that case Max would have won this fight

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Speaker 1: Well, the truth is, none of us know exactly what

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Speaker 1: say this because I think it's getting lost. That was

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Speaker 1: very hard to do on Volkanovsky's part, even though I

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Speaker 1: think that should have been Max Holloway's night. So where

431
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Speaker 1: do we go from here? Listen, man, it is the

432
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Speaker 1: right answer to give a ten eight to somebody like

433
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Speaker 1: Max if they can drop a guy in two consecutive rounds.

434
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Speaker 1: Maybe I'm certainly not here to say no. Here's what

435
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Speaker 1: I am gonna say. I once asked Jeff Blatnik rest

436
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Speaker 1: in peace, one of the pioneers of the sport and

437
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Speaker 1: one of the people who helped come up with some

438
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Speaker 1: of the rules and the concepts around scoring an MMA,

439
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Speaker 1: and obviously a highly decorated international class wrestler himself prior

440
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Speaker 1: to all of that UFC commentator as well, and I'd

441
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Speaker 1: asked him, should you give points for things like punches

442
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Speaker 1: or takedowns? And he said no, And the reason why

443
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Speaker 1: his argument was because it would take away sort of

444
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Speaker 1: the open ended creativity. A fight is more than the

445
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Speaker 1: sum of its parts, and I think that that is

446
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Speaker 1: very trenchant correct analysis. So if that is true, why

447
00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:06,120
Speaker 1: are we still using a system of points with these

448
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Speaker 1: individual frames designed around this idea that a fight is

449
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Speaker 1: actually only the sum of its parts? To me, it

450
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Speaker 1: is totally incongruous. If we're not going to score takedowns

451
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Speaker 1: with individual points, if we're not going to score uppercuts

452
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Speaker 1: with individual points, why are we assigning numeracy and numeric

453
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Speaker 1: value to these individual rounds? To me, does not make sense.

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Speaker 1: I know that what folks think is that we should

455
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Speaker 1: just keep the system that we have and add specificity

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Speaker 1: to it. And maybe I'm wrong, and maybe that's worth

457
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Speaker 1: an experiment. I am willing to say, let's at least

458
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Speaker 1: try to see if that works. But here's my hunch, BC,

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Speaker 1: if you score that fight under pride or one rules,

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Speaker 1: I have a very hard time believing that you come

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Speaker 1: up any other way than Max Holloway winning, because he

462
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Speaker 1: dominantly won the first two, not ten eights, but dominantly,

463
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Speaker 1: and then the last three are kind of a wash.

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Speaker 1: Maybe round five clear to VOLKANOVSK. If that's the case,

465
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Speaker 1: you would easily come up with Max Holloway. There we

466
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Speaker 1: keep thinking, well, what we need with this system is

467
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 1: more and more and more and more and more specificity.

468
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Speaker 1: My hunch is it's exactly the opposite. The reason you

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Speaker 1: don't want to assign point values to take downs or

470
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Speaker 1: punches or kicks is the same reason you don't want

471
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Speaker 1: to an assign point values to individual rounds. It corrupts

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Speaker 1: the whole thing, and it gives you this deeply unsatisfying response.

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Speaker 1: Because here's where we're going to end up again, BC.

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Speaker 1: I looked it up. There was one guy who has

475
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Speaker 1: gotten a little bit of questions around him. His name

476
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Speaker 1: is Mark Collette. He was the judge that gave it

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Speaker 1: forty eight forty one of the ones that give it

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Speaker 1: forty eight forty seven Max. But he also scored the

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Speaker 1: fight for Androge over Noma Yunis, which was a little

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Speaker 1: bit eyebrow raising as well. Now, as far as I

481
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Speaker 1: can tell, this is the first UFC title fight he

482
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Speaker 1: has judged. He might have been another ones, but they

483
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Speaker 1: never went ultimately to the scorecards.

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Speaker 3: This is the one that is he the.

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Speaker 4: One that scored it for Max. I want to interrupt

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Speaker 4: you for a point.

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Speaker 3: No, he scored it for See, he's scored it for Volkanovsky.

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Speaker 4: He had Volkanov say, the guy that scored it for

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Speaker 4: Max gave Max round five and gave round three to Volkanovsky,

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Speaker 4: which didn't seem to make a ton of sense either.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that doesn't make a lot of sense, but okay,

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Speaker 1: But just sticking with this point. So, how much experience

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Speaker 1: does Mark Collette have based on what I see over

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Speaker 1: in MMA decisions? Hundreds hundreds of fights, many UFC main events,

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Speaker 1: including obviously ones that have gone five rounds. He's a

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Speaker 1: jiu jitsu black belt, he has competitive experience himself. BC.

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Speaker 1: At some point the community has got to wake up

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Speaker 1: to this. I don't know if Mark Collett is a

499
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Speaker 1: is a great judge, but he seems to be at

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Speaker 1: best okay, right or at worst, Rather Okay, a bad

501
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 1: system is gonna make good or okay, judges bad.

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Speaker 3: We have a bad system.

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Speaker 1: You cannot get optimal responses in a bad system, and

504
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Speaker 1: it is time for the UFC to try some experimentation.

505
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Speaker 1: Maybe yours, maybe my idea, I don't care. But what

506
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Speaker 1: we have is broken and it's never going to be

507
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Speaker 1: fixed just leaving it the way that it is.

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Speaker 4: I agree with a lot of what you said. In fact,

509
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Speaker 4: the same black line that was drawn on you was

510
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Speaker 4: drawn on me, and now it's drawn me in because

511
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 4: my adjustment to the current system still kind of leaves

512
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Speaker 4: potential evolutionary problems and you're still doing again, a ten

513
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Speaker 4: to nine boxing system in five minute rounds with much

514
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Speaker 4: more disciplines. So I guess the answer because everybody is

515
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 4: constantly referencing if this was Pride, then why don't we

516
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Speaker 4: just do the damn Pride rules or keep the round

517
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Speaker 4: structure as it is so you can allow for the break,

518
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Speaker 4: but have the judges score the fight as a whole

519
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Speaker 4: at the end of the fight rather than round by round,

520
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 4: because you want the right person to win. And the

521
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Speaker 4: spinoff conversation from what happened Luke is Max did everything

522
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Speaker 4: we wanted him to do against a great fighter, and

523
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Speaker 4: now he's in a I don't know where he goes

524
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Speaker 4: next situation. Obviously he's not going downhill. He's twenty eight

525
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Speaker 4: years old. Just he owed you that he could be

526
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Speaker 4: the best fatherweight in the world.

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Speaker 1: But we don't.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's going to take a long road back

529
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Speaker 4: to be in a spot where you would think the

530
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Speaker 4: UFC would want to give him a trilogy. And we

531
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Speaker 4: both have questions about his potential ceiling at one fifty five.

532
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Speaker 4: Should he want to move up into the deepest pool

533
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Speaker 4: in history? So now you kind of leave him in

534
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 4: a crappy spot because of this judging. You know, situation certainly.

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Speaker 3: Do very quickly. Where do you think Max goes?

536
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Speaker 1: Does he stay at one forty five or does he

537
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Speaker 1: jump up to lightweight because of his.

538
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Speaker 4: Uh demeanor, which is you know, his tweets were great

539
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Speaker 4: and you shouted them out for that nobody you know,

540
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Speaker 4: this side of Connor McGregor deals with losses with a

541
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Speaker 4: better attitude than Max. It is what it is, all

542
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 4: that stuff. I think he stays in the division. I

543
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 4: think he looks for the best possible fight you can

544
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Speaker 4: make an Ortiega rematch would be awesome him against the

545
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Speaker 4: damn zombie. I mean, be everybody up and down, you

546
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Speaker 4: can make great fights, and I think he just stays

547
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Speaker 4: on course and goes after the title. And this is

548
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Speaker 4: where the debate needs to be had. Should the UFC

549
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Speaker 4: consider giving him that third in a situation in a

550
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Speaker 4: trilogy where you almost never see the person who lost

551
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Speaker 4: the first two get the third opportunity unless there is

552
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 4: just you know, overwhelming corruption at stake, how many wins

553
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Speaker 4: do you think would be justified for him to get

554
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Speaker 4: that too?

555
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 1: Two big wins in the top twoo two. That fight

556
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: was honestly, you know, you guys know what I said

557
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Speaker 1: last week. I thought for sure Volkanovsky was gonna shine here,

558
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Speaker 1: and again I think late to have the adjustments that

559
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,919
Speaker 1: he did, it's just gonna get lost in all of this.

560
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Speaker 1: I get it, because it's really about Max. I thought

561
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Speaker 1: was pretty impressive. But you know, for Max to do

562
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Speaker 1: what he did early in that fight was it was

563
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Speaker 1: It was epic, It was really special, and so to me,

564
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Speaker 1: if you wanted to give him a third fight right away,

565
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Speaker 1: I know that's unheard of, but this is, frankly, an

566
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Speaker 1: unprecedented situation to a degree. I wouldn't mind it at all.

567
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Speaker 1: Let it, let it breathe a little bit, maybe wait

568
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Speaker 1: six months, but my chances are because they got to

569
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Speaker 1: keep this machine churning, they probably won't. So two two

570
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Speaker 1: wins zabat you know, A yeah, hear something like that.

571
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 1: If he can get those wins, you put them right

572
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 1: back in there.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna connor you quickly and say you can't do next.

574
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 4: You have to respect that Volkanowski won in the eyes

575
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Speaker 4: of the judges and let him move on. And he

576
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 4: wants to face the best in line. He doesn't even

577
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 4: want some hudo, which is great, you know, and so

578
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 4: who know's trying to get in every conversation right now, Luke,

579
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 4: I just want to remind him you're the guy that retired, okay,

580
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 4: so you know you don't have much leverage right.

581
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Speaker 1: Now, all right, and it takes us now two point

582
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Speaker 1: three the third of the three title fights, with the

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Speaker 1: first certainly in the chronological order, on Saturday night. Peter

584
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 1: Yon Pyotr Jan is your new UFC Bantamweight Champion BC

585
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 1: one more time in the championship questions go first in

586
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Speaker 1: one year's time, assuming he stays active, Assuming he fights

587
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: top contenders in one year's time. So July thirteenth, twenty

588
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,679
Speaker 1: twenty one, is Peter Yon the bantamweight champion?

589
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 4: Great question. The fact that I don't know, without a

590
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 4: shadow of the doubt is what makes this division so

591
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 4: great right now. Because I didn't think al Jermaine Sterling,

592
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 4: member of this show at time, was as great as

593
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 4: the performance he showed against Cory Sandagan. And that's why

594
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 4: you need the best to face the best, and that's

595
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 4: why you need, you know, shout out to although for

596
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 4: pouring out the jug for us. You don't need old

597
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 4: guy names in this spot when you have this deep

598
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 4: of a roster of prime guys. Right now, I don't

599
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,439
Speaker 4: know what jan Sterling is going to look like. I

600
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 4: do know it's the fight that needs to happen next,

601
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Speaker 4: and I do know that because of this performance on

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Speaker 4: Saturday Night, I'm gonna slightly favor Peter Yon Payo Tray Payota,

603
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 4: however you want to look at it right now, because Luke,

604
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 4: if he wasn't as good as he is across all

605
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 4: the board, a great veteran like Josie Aldo was gonna

606
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 4: solve him. And the fact that we actually got to

607
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 4: see all though hurt Yon and see Yan remain patient,

608
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 4: show a great chin, stick to his game plan, and

609
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 4: show you so many fashion facets of his game, yet

610
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 4: still sticking to his brand of being, you know, an

611
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 4: absolute savage of hunting you down and finishing you. This

612
00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 4: was obviously a breakout performance. He is who we thought

613
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 4: he was, and I now need to see him against

614
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Speaker 4: the very best in order. I love when you got

615
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 4: a lot of old names in the division. You got

616
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 4: Frankie Edgar, you got mister Faber, you got Cruz, you

617
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 4: know Dilla Shaw's coming back. You got a lot of

618
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 4: options here. Can they just fight each other though?

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Speaker 1: For now?

620
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Speaker 4: Can we find out who actually is the best of

621
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Speaker 4: the best. And again, Henry so Hudo, I saw your tweets, Bro,

622
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 4: you pulled out, Okay, like Luke in college, many times

623
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 4: you pulled out. Let's let al Joe in there right now.

624
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Speaker 4: In fact, I almost don't even feel great about putting

625
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 4: the belt on Peyotre on right now. I almost look

626
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 4: at that as an interim belt until we see him

627
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 4: against al Jo. That's going to define who is your

628
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 4: real UFC Banamway champion. And one year from now, Luke

629
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 4: I got no idea. Our guy Sanhagen may slide right

630
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 4: back in those DMS and steal it by then.

631
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean here's what he would have to do.

632
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: Let's say in a year's time he'll get three more fights.

633
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: That means he would have to beat some kind of

634
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 1: combination of al Jamn Sterling, Marlin Maris, maybe Cody Garbrandt,

635
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: maybe as you mentioned, Cody Sandhagen, maybe god who else

636
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: is in that division at the top there. If I'm

637
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 1: not even thinking about Marlen, Martin, Moris, Pedro Munos could

638
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: move up. I mean, there's just a lot of different

639
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: ways that that could go. So is he the champion

640
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 1: in a year? I don't think it's crazy to think

641
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: that he could be. I think it's crazy to offer

642
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 1: a degree of certainty about it, because in the Sterling matchup,

643
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: Sterling's going to have a hard time taking him down

644
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,239
Speaker 1: or finding the back. He had excellent scrambling skills in

645
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: this fight and every other one. John dottson that trouble

646
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: taking him down. I mean, he is incredibly good at

647
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 1: making that difficult. But on the other hand, Al Jabin

648
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: Sterling can fight from the outside, He can stick and move.

649
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: Maybe that's going to be an opportunity for him. Hard

650
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 1: to do it for five rounds, but certainly possible. Marlon

651
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: Morice has all kinds of tricks himself, power puncher, power striker,

652
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: not the best cardio if he's getting backed up, but

653
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 1: still forced to be reckoned with. And then maybe the

654
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: punching power of Cody Garbrandt. The patience is there, Maybe

655
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: it's Corey Sandhagen and he gets up there and shows

656
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: that his trickery and sleight of hand is what it is.

657
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 3: Here's what I know.

658
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: If he does end up beating three of those top

659
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: names that I mentioned in one year's time, of course

660
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: he'll be the champion a lot more than that. That

661
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: will be absolutely incredible as an athletic achievement. Twenty seven

662
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: years old, to do that from twenty seven to twenty

663
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: eight beating those kinds of names. At that point, I

664
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: think you could fully declare outright best bantamwait ever, probably

665
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: somewhere along those lines, and certainly this would be the

666
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 1: Peter yhon era. But I don't want to put the

667
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: cart before the horse. BC that has a lot of

668
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: work to do. As you mentioned, TJ. Dillashaw comes back,

669
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 1: how will he look, with his time off, way too

670
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: many unknowns, So let's focus the conversation a little bit

671
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: on Aldo. Can we talk about that stoppage for just

672
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: a second with Leon Roberts. I know everyone wants to

673
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: kill Leon Roberts for this, and I'm not here to

674
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: say that that fight shouldn't have been stopped earlier. It

675
00:31:55,320 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: should have, but I've been I noticed something, man, when

676
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 1: Glover Tushera fought Anthony Smith. I noticed that every time

677
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: the referee in that case, which was Jason Herzog, said

678
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: to Anthony Smith to move, he did. And yet here

679
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: he is losing teeth taken a beating round after round,

680
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: round after round. You're like, Jesus, man, what are you

681
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: What are you waiting for here? Because here's what I think.

682
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: This is my theory BC. What do you make of this?

683
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: Maybe ten years ago guys weren't quite playing it up

684
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: this way, but now they are at the guys have

685
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: gotten better in fights about waiting for the referee to

686
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: give instructions fight back or move, and then doing it.

687
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: And they do it long enough, all that ends up

688
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: happening is they just prolong their beating. But by the

689
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: letter of the law, they're sort of meeting the intelligent

690
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: defense standard. Referee asked for action, they provided just enough

691
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: to stop the fight. And the problem, as you can see, BC,

692
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: is you can do that for a minute on end

693
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: and get your ass whipped, take unnecessary damage with no

694
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: hope of getting a victory. But you mean the intelligent

695
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: defense standard. Is it time to question whether or not

696
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: the intelligent defense standard is enough?

697
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, hell yeah, because it's not enough. You got

698
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 4: your ass beat for a full minute. You're leaking blood

699
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 4: all over the floor. I am with the idea of

700
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 4: when it's a title fight or when a veteran And obviously,

701
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 4: if you know, although does fit this description, when you

702
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,959
Speaker 4: have a veteran known for wanting to and willing to

703
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 4: going out on their shield, you do give them a

704
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 4: little bit extra right. We always reference Brock, Lesnar, Shank

705
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 4: Carwin and the great Josh Rosenthal for allowing that to.

706
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: Go on rock rolling around.

707
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 4: But Brock was also trying to throw back, trying to

708
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 4: do different things. The problem with what you stayed out,

709
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 4: Luke is Josie Aldo's not trying remotely to throw a

710
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 4: strike or improve his positioning. He's doing the minimal amount

711
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 4: of movement to not get the fight stopped or not

712
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 4: to you know, willingly put himself in a spot where

713
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 4: he has to quit. So no, when you're watching a

714
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 4: guy that we all love in a door, get the

715
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 4: piss beat out of him. Stop the damn fight already. Okay, Like,

716
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 4: why are we even having this debate, Luke?

717
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: Next topic should be a mercy stoppage kind of consideration

718
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: in MMA. We don't have enough of them. And that

719
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 1: was ugly to watch it.

720
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 4: Hey, how about his corner? Throw the damn towel?

721
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: All right? Yeah, I was gonna say, Andre Pitteraniras was

722
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: giving him great advice between rounds. I was like, Wow,

723
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 1: that's really great corner work. And then this happens and

724
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: I'm just watching in horror, like Jesus Man, somebody, Hey, Rocky.

725
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 4: Could have saved Apollo against Drago. We all know this, right,

726
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 4: He lived and died with that in his brain.

727
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 1: All right, it takes us now to you know. It

728
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 1: felt like a title fight it all, except it was

729
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,320
Speaker 1: only three rounds. Rose nami Unis defeating Jessica and Drodge

730
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 1: via split decision, which three was a little bit weird,

731
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: but okay, she gets it done, and so Now the

732
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,760
Speaker 1: question BC is how would she do against wylee Jiang.

733
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: I have to tell you first things. First, while I

734
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 1: thought these split decision nod, yes it went to Rose,

735
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 1: but that it was a split decision at all versus unanimous,

736
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: I did not agree with. However, I will say that

737
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: if you if you thought that the first meeting between

738
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: Rose and Jessica and the way it ended was a

739
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: little flukeish, maybe you would reconsider that, yes, there was

740
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 1: no big slams in this fight, but that Justica and

741
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 1: Rodge is a legitimate threat to Rose in a number

742
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: of different ways. I think that part was proven to

743
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: be true. So what does that mean for a potential

744
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: Rose in wyle Jiang fight. I have to say I

745
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: cannot wait to see this. My hunch is that maybe

746
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 1: why le Jiang is just underrated in a way that

747
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,919
Speaker 1: we haven't quite fully internalized.

748
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 3: She has beaten Yoanni and Jchck. She beat Jessica quite quickly.

749
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: Although Rose beaten Jessica, excuse to be Rose had beaten

750
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: of Yo Wanna a little bit earlier in some ways

751
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: than the current champ has. Nonetheless, I love everything about

752
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: this matchup, the different experiences, the different nationalities. There'll be

753
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 1: a lack of trash talk, the different body types, the

754
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: different kinds of games all in play there, and for

755
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: something that would just set women's MMA apart. I mean,

756
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: this is the weight class that's going to showcase just

757
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 1: what women's MMA is all about.

758
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 3: We already saw it with Wiley.

759
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: Jang and you wanting in jcheck you might get that

760
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,959
Speaker 1: in more with Rose. I don't want to oversaw something

761
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: before we see it what it might look like. But

762
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: I'm just saying BC, hold on, I'm just saying how

763
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 1: would go what would look like? I don't know, And

764
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 1: it's for those reasons that I cannot wait to see it.

765
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 4: Cotton Candy Sweeten to go. Let me see that, TUTSI

766
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 4: roll Luke right now. That is among the best four

767
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 4: or five fights you can make in this sport. I

768
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 4: said it last week, and I know I did see

769
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 4: some people on Twitter go, hey, well, you know you

770
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 4: saw the damage Rose took on. Maybe Waaley can send

771
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,479
Speaker 4: her to hell there. I mean, obviously anything can happen,

772
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 4: but I don't think that changes my expectations for how

773
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 4: great of a fight that can be. Because styles do

774
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 4: make fights. You just lay it laid out out. Rose

775
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 4: had beaten Yuana twice, including dominantly before she even ever

776
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 4: stepped in against Wayey, and Rose had like a stupid

777
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,439
Speaker 4: amount of questions to answer for us, Like I said,

778
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,280
Speaker 4: for somebody who had favored betting wise and had people

779
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 4: like us favoring Rose, she had an absurd amount of

780
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,240
Speaker 4: questions to answer. And I actually like that it wasn't

781
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 4: easy that, in fact, it was insanely hard. That that

782
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 4: third round was hell on earth for rosanama Unis because

783
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 4: this wasn't a washed andrage, this wasn't Androge who improved

784
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,760
Speaker 4: on her recent performances as a former champion, who actually

785
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 4: added some head movement in there and really put it

786
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 4: on in that round three. And to see Rose go

787
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 4: through that with a smile on her face, she was

788
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 4: dancing at times. This is what she needed to know

789
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 4: at twenty eight that she's still the good. She's still

790
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 4: potentially the best fighter in this division and one of

791
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 4: the best in the world. I don't know if you

792
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 4: can favor her overweightley, It's going to be depending upon

793
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 4: your opinion, But style wise, she has the potential to

794
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 4: do things to Jung that Yoanna couldn't, that other people

795
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 4: can't because of that length and then you mix together

796
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 4: the incredible technique in movement with the power, and she

797
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 4: does have one punch power, you know, maybe not to

798
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 4: knock out everyone, but to certainly affect the fight in

799
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 4: a big way. Uh, that's gonna be hilatious. And if

800
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 4: that fight goes on the ground and we see a

801
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,399
Speaker 4: lot of variations over five rounds, it could be an

802
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 4: absolute classic. Shout out to Rose equals shout out to Andrage.

803
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 4: Didn't think she deserved the split decision either, but she

804
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 4: made that fight fun and a ten eight round wouldn't

805
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 4: have been out of the question for battering Rose the

806
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:20,399
Speaker 4: way that she did.

807
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 2: Uh.

808
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:25,800
Speaker 4: Shout out to women straweights one fifteen. Luke, never never

809
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:27,720
Speaker 4: never disappoints you.

810
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:32,760
Speaker 1: Never certainly doesn't never, And I would just like like never, yeah,

811
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: and I would just add what I hear you, I

812
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 1: would say never. Ok, I'm gonna, I'm gonna. I'm going

813
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 1: to add on top of that the thing that you

814
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: had mentioned, which is really worth highlighting here. She won

815
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: based on her skills, yes, but that she is now

816
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: in the competitive mindset and the sort of internal peace

817
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,240
Speaker 1: and the understanding of her purpose and what she wants

818
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: to do and the clarity, the sense of it all

819
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: that's gonna get you the best rose domine units available.

820
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: Is that the one to beat Wily Jang? I don't know,

821
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: but she he's going to be able to maximize her

822
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: chances and her opportunities against her, and that is going

823
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: to give us something I think quite special down the road.

824
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: All right, one more of these BC. We go now

825
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 1: to point number five. Amanda Hebas opening the card against

826
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 1: Paige van zamp Boy. She made short work of her,

827
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: winning via first round arm bar. So let's just ask

828
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: a question because Dana White was prompted at the post

829
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: by press conference about Page and he said, yeah, she

830
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: should probably seek free agency. I mean, we already kind

831
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 1: of knew she was on the way out. That was

832
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 1: the absolute nail in the coffin right there. So the

833
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: question would be what organization outside of the UFC is

834
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: the best fit. You might be able to say one,

835
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 1: but I just don't believe in that organization. I like

836
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: their scoring criteria. People who are kickboxing enthusiasts tell me

837
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: that they do some really interesting and very valuable things

838
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: in that regard. I take all of that seriously, and

839
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: they've got real talent. They've got the names that we know,

840
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: and they got some that you often don't know, and

841
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 1: they provide a pretty valuable service for that East Asian community. Okay,

842
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: fair enough, But on the other hand, they've been hemorrhaging

843
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 1: money for a very long time. They brag about things

844
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 1: happening in their organization that literally aren't happening. Their leader,

845
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: Chautri sit yav Tong, seems to me a less than

846
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 1: credible character. I don't know that his car from Chawtri Yeah, yeah,

847
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: I mean, and then when you drive it off the lot,

848
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,720
Speaker 1: all the wheels come off and then the car explodes.

849
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 4: Like someone about how that car is changing the game.

850
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 3: Look, yeah, it's full of honor and respect the card.

851
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 1: So I'm going to say I think it makes a

852
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 1: lot more sense for her to end up with Belatore.

853
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: I think Scott Cocher knows how to make situations like

854
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: this work where somebody has some ability but they're not

855
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 1: really even close to the best in their weight class,

856
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: but people want to see them compete. That's really what

857
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: he can deliver here. And of course I don't mean

858
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: to say that Scott Cocher and Belator only do that, No,

859
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: but can they make use of that. I mean, this

860
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: is the thing about the UFC At some point, if

861
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: you can't fight at a high level, they don't really

862
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: know what to do with you. Other organizations, and in

863
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 1: particular Beltoor and Scott do people like Page. They want

864
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: to see her, but they want to see her in

865
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: fights that make sense for her. I think Bellatore is

866
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 1: probably the best landing place.

867
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, she doesn't make sense in a PFL tournament right

868
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 4: to find out how great she is within her own

869
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 4: way class. She makes sense where she can help elevate

870
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 4: the brand that she goes to, and that certainly if

871
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 4: it's Bellatore, that makes sense. Obviously that could open the

872
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 4: door for pro wrestling if she wants to try that out.

873
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 4: But Luke, let's be really honest about a lot of things.

874
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,919
Speaker 4: This went as destructively bad as it could have gone.

875
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 4: From the idea of let me keep my brand strong,

876
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 4: if not freshen it up on the way out. She

877
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 4: was such an absurdly heavy underdog that in a weird way,

878
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 4: I was sort of cheering for her as she was

879
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,280
Speaker 4: going to the cage. You know, you see her in tears,

880
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 4: sort of taking stock of the moment where you really

881
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 4: wanted to see her if she was going to lose,

882
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 4: and most likely she was to at least, you know,

883
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 4: go out on her shield, have some type of moment

884
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 4: where you're like, oh, you know, the Page van Zan

885
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 4: experiment didn't go as it could have as we thought

886
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 4: of whatever, But shout out to her for finishing strong. No, Luke,

887
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 4: she got her ass kicked by somebody from a lower division.

888
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,760
Speaker 4: Now this somebody is a man to hebas who's fantastic.

889
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 4: And actually, even though she wants to go back down

890
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 4: to one fifteen where there's killers, we could have a

891
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 4: conversation about which division is better for her potential title

892
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,399
Speaker 4: path down the road, which is very soon, by the way,

893
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,399
Speaker 4: because she looks that great on a hole though, Luke,

894
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 4: the PVC experiment was a massive failure. I'm sorry it

895
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 4: was from the you know, she's five and four in

896
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 4: the octagon. Overall, she's lost three out of her last

897
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 4: four and you know, something like four out of her

898
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 4: last six. You saw when she finally stepped up in class.

899
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 4: You know, it just didn't happen. So I'm not here

900
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 4: to damn her for that. Because there was injuries, there's

901
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:48,320
Speaker 4: questions of commitment.

902
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: There was the hole.

903
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 4: Let me try to, you know, flirt with fame before.

904
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 4: Maybe my star was ready for it or my game

905
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 4: was ready for it. But this could not have been

906
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 4: a worse flat tire to see the end of the

907
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 4: pay journey within the octagon. I felt bad, but when

908
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 4: Dana piled on with those comments, I wasn't offended. I mean,

909
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 4: he's right, He's right, Luke.

910
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, well sort of.

911
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 1: I mean I love the slet of hand that he

912
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: pulls and people don't call him on it. Let me

913
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,399
Speaker 1: see if I get this straight. You said he because

914
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: he compared it to Curtis Blades. Curtis Blades's problem was

915
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 1: not that he's not elite, because he's beating elite heavyweights

916
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 1: in main events. It was that he's not marketable. And

917
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 1: then that's the problem. Now you get someone who's marketable

918
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,280
Speaker 1: and now the issues that they're not elite.

919
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 3: It's heads.

920
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: I win tails you lose every time with these considerations.

921
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 4: Look, you gotta go, well, you got a factor in

922
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 4: fighter pay though. Look that's what he's pissed at. He's

923
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 4: pissed when you talk shit. She talked shit about fighter pay.

924
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: The fighters. The fighters are underpaid. It doesn't matter if

925
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: you're elite like Curtis Blades, they'll they'll kill you for that.

926
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: Or you can be marketable but maybe not elite, and

927
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: they'll kill you for that too. Like you can't win.

928
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 1: And the fighters' arguments about whether they're underpaid are just

929
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: totally air tight. I don't even know. But there's no

930
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 1: debate about it anymore. It's just a question of do

931
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 1: they have the levers to fix it? But okay, here's

932
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 1: the point though, and BC you would agree with this,

933
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: like it's gonna sound like a crazy comparison. I'm not

934
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: saying it's one for one, apples to apples, but like

935
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,240
Speaker 1: Kimbo Slice is the most popular fighter in Belatore history,

936
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: right because was he the best one? No, that's Patricio Freda.

937
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 1: He's the best fighter in Belatoar history. The champ champ

938
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,879
Speaker 1: over there. But the truth is, dude, people like who

939
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 1: they like, and they want to see people they like

940
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: in situations that they care about. Bellatore is a great

941
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: place for that to happen. If Coker is interested, it's

942
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: a very easy cell. You were gonna say.

943
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 4: Sorry, I had a little audio glitch there. I don't

944
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 4: know what I was gonna say, but we're live still,

945
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 4: right Jay, Hey, Jay got more combat shirt on today.

946
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 4: Shout out for that.

947
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 1: I saw that, I saw it very quickly. Obviously, the

948
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 1: UFC loves Amanda. Hebas what's the next best fight for her?

949
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 4: Well, you know she wants. She did mention mari rod

950
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 4: Sorry Rodriguez as a potential fight, and Marina is another

951
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 4: one of these sneaky, you know, potentially really good fighters.

952
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 4: If she to stay at one fifteen, that's maybe a

953
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 4: better way class for her and her skill set go

954
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 4: for it. But that is a longer path to the title.

955
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 4: Be honest, She's maybe one went away at Strouw, I

956
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 4: mean at Flyway if she wanted to go after Chevchenko

957
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 4: right now, Either way, Luke, that name would work for me,

958
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 4: Marina if she's staying there. But what a performance and

959
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 4: what a win after the fight. How many tweets did

960
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 4: you see of people like straight up falling in love

961
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:29,720
Speaker 4: with her, humbleness, her goofiness, her you know, everything about

962
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 4: the whole you know, Brazilian product that she put out there,

963
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 4: of broken English and joy and all that.

964
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: You know.

965
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,240
Speaker 4: I mean, I wasn't Sophie b hawking her and dropping

966
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 4: a damn. I wish I was your lover, but I

967
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 4: want to know her now. You know what I'm saying.

968
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 4: There's a big win.

969
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. I interviewed her before the fights and she is

970
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: just completely pleasant. She's the nicest nime fighter I think

971
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: I've ever interviewed. And that's saying something because there's some

972
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 1: Roxane Mota Ferries out there, there's some Stephen Wonderbore Thompson's

973
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: out there, and they'll give a man a run for

974
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 1: her money when it comes to being nice. But she

975
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 1: is just incredible plus BC two twenty six years old,

976
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 1: judo black belt, jiu jitsu black belt. She can strike,

977
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: she trains hard, she speaks English, right, I mean, there's

978
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 1: a lot to like. If you're the UFC there.

979
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,760
Speaker 4: I think too. Look, sometimes you gotta be honest with yourself.

980
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 1: I'll let you have that thing to say. Titia Torres

981
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: would be a good next fight too. I don't think

982
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 1: they're too far apart, so she's got some ways to

983
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: go at strawway.

984
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 4: They're very far apart. Don't be trying to put more

985
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 4: l's on Tisha's resume. She will lost like five in

986
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 4: a row before that win.

987
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: Come out I'm just saying they're not there in the rankings.

988
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: They're kind of closed together, all right, Would.

989
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 3: That in mind?

990
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 1: Be With that in mind, BC, it's time to get

991
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 1: to where the folks get to ask us questions. It's

992
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 1: time for dms from donks. There's the animation blah blah blah.

993
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,280
Speaker 1: All right, BC, let's go first to this from at

994
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: DIP three eight eight six before the fight, when Ouspin

995
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 1: said that he would go toe to toe with him

996
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: as at all, did any of you expect him to

997
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 1: literally do it?

998
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,919
Speaker 4: Okay? I didn't expect him to go Colby. I didn't

999
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 4: expect him to do that. I did think though that

1000
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 4: uh Usman wouldn't have been as evolved and comfortable with

1001
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 4: one training camp with Trevor Whitman to show you certain wrinkles.

1002
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 4: And I did think if Mozvidal stuffed some takedowns, which oh,

1003
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 4: by the way, he did, that you would see a

1004
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:25,399
Speaker 4: little bit more aggressive, if not quasi reckless Usman if

1005
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 4: they were exchanging and he was having some success, you know,

1006
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 4: particularly later in the fight too, if Mosvidal started to gas,

1007
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 4: which I thought Mozvedal was going to gas a lot more,

1008
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 4: Luke because I thought he was going to go for

1009
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 4: broke a lot more so I was, you know, expecting

1010
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 4: a scenario where he goes, I got a tired guy

1011
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 4: in front of me, I'm up on the cards. I

1012
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 4: could really stamp this home that I'm a future star.

1013
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 4: Let me go for that knockout, let me not do

1014
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 4: what's smart. I'm going to give him credit for playing

1015
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 4: it safe because it was in that mold where he

1016
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 4: could have been knocked out. So no, not in the

1017
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 4: traditional sense of let's put it on the table.

1018
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 1: No, yeah, I mean maybe in spurts. But the thing is,

1019
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 1: like with fighting Colby, you know you can take you

1020
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 1: can maybe hit you with a good shot, or you

1021
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: could take enough damage over time or it like overtime

1022
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,359
Speaker 1: accumulates into something kind of bad.

1023
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 3: Dude.

1024
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: With Jorge, it goes bad to worse fast, Like you

1025
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 1: just don't have a lot of time if you're on

1026
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 1: the losing end of things to make an adjustment. So like,

1027
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: did I expect him to like for minutes on end

1028
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 1: strike with him? No? Fuck no, Like, why would you

1029
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: do that? The last three guys that did that it

1030
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 1: didn't go too well for him. You'd be stupid to

1031
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 1: do that. And Kamorrow has many things, but stupid is

1032
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: not one of them. So no, I didn't expect in

1033
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 1: that particular sense, all right at kaz one three eight

1034
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 1: six BA, see why is a draw not more common

1035
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 1: in important fights that are too close to call? Why

1036
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: not call it a draw and then just run it back?

1037
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 4: That's interesting? I mean you can't, They say, why not

1038
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 4: just call it a draw? The reason is because you

1039
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 4: score round by round, and you put your scores in

1040
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,359
Speaker 4: after the round, so there's no like, you know at

1041
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 4: the end, Hey, I know I scored it this way,

1042
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 4: but Max really looked like you should have won. There's

1043
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,919
Speaker 4: none of that. But in this scenario, a draw would

1044
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 4: have been so much better, Luke, because even though it

1045
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,879
Speaker 4: looked like by our eyes that Max should have won,

1046
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 4: more people whose opinions mattered thought Volkanowski had won more rounds.

1047
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 4: Yet in the end, no one really did enough to

1048
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 4: win that fight without questions. So yes, a draw would

1049
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 4: have been perfect. But this brings us to what we

1050
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 4: mentioned about the idea of pride rules, which is, let's

1051
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 4: score at the end who should have won? Maybe this

1052
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 4: was that perfect kind of fight if you were doing

1053
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 4: pride judging rules, where We don't want numbers and scores

1054
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 4: from you. We want names. You have three options. It's

1055
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 4: either Max, it's Alex, or it's even. That could have

1056
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 4: been a fight where you know, two of those three go.

1057
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 4: You know what, that's an even fight. I need to

1058
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 4: see this again. I am not against that at all,

1059
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 4: but no, the spirit of that question, Luke is wrong.

1060
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 4: You can't just do that. Why do we see more

1061
00:49:56,600 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 4: draws in boxing because they're twelve rounds? Makes sense?

1062
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: Also, just to add here, I don't know what the

1063
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 1: judges in this case were told ahead of time in

1064
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 1: terms of their judging, but I do know that there

1065
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 1: are many commissions, including some of the bigger ones, that

1066
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 1: tell their judges, yes, we're not going to say you

1067
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Speaker 1: can't score an individual fight, you know, or around a

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00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: particular you know, ten ten or something like that.

1069
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 3: We're not saying you can't. We just don't really want

1070
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:24,839
Speaker 3: you to.

1071
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 1: They heavily incentivize just find a winner either ten nine

1072
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 1: one way or the other. Just don't give a ten ten.

1073
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,879
Speaker 1: So they're just pretty rare. They're pretty rare. You'll see

1074
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 1: nine nines, b se because X will beat why up.

1075
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: But then, you know, do the old three stooges bit

1076
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: get a point deducted, and so you'll get a nine

1077
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 1: to nine in that sense. But they just very rarely

1078
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,479
Speaker 1: encourage judges to give out ten tens because they say,

1079
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 1: you know, draws aren't satisfying. I don't know, man, it's

1080
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 1: a lot more satisfying than a decision that puts us

1081
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 1: in the position that we're in now would have been

1082
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:57,760
Speaker 1: a lot more satisfying I think for Max.

1083
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, anyone who said that draws like casing your sister

1084
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 4: must have grown up in West Virginia, you know.

1085
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, all right. So at J TiVo Rights Venom

1086
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: were announced as the new UFC apparel partners. Apart from

1087
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 1: the shoes, do you believe BC they will do a

1088
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 1: better job at fighter promotion and unique designs and ideas,

1089
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 1: do to be fundamentally linked to MMA and need to

1090
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 1: be in quote good with the athletes.

1091
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 4: Uh sure, you know, when you're a company that's proven

1092
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 4: in this space.

1093
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1094
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 4: They also don't though, have the Do they have the

1095
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 4: track record or reach over Rebok? I don't know, But

1096
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 4: you know, at the end of the day, I don't

1097
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 4: really care, Luke, as long as the stuff looks okay

1098
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 4: and as long as the fighters are getting a larger

1099
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,399
Speaker 4: slice of the pie, which you know the press release

1100
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 4: said they would, then cool, right.

1101
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 1: I mean it's a mood point.

1102
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 4: I know some people love getting all up on the

1103
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 4: apparel like whatever, whatever.

1104
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 1: Dude, here's here's the only thing I would add to

1105
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 1: this is in the boxing side, they actually have a

1106
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 1: Lomachenko sponsorship and exclusive one and they have something called

1107
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 1: the Loma Line and it's like both ath leisure and

1108
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 1: then also all of his training stuff. You know, if

1109
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 1: there's the right opportunity for a UFC fighter to get that,

1110
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 1: I think that'd be kind of cool, you know, to

1111
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: have like their gown rash guard, their own mouthpiece and

1112
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 1: wraps and gloves and joggers and hoodies. And I called

1113
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 1: it on you, Luke.

1114
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 4: I could see you lounging around the house in DC

1115
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 4: and your Israel out of soigna like sweatpants. Because there's people,

1116
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 4: there are commenters on this show that believe you have

1117
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:40,280
Speaker 4: a not a bone to pick a bone to poll

1118
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 4: with the fellas at City Kickbox, and they think you're

1119
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:43,359
Speaker 4: on the.

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00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 1: Payroll, Luke, maybe I do. I mean, did you see

1121
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 1: the UFC four trailer, so they had mass with all

1122
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 1: out in the backyard stuff, obviously as a call back

1123
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 1: to his origins in the fight game. And then they

1124
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 1: had this like moy brand stuff for Auto Signia with

1125
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 1: all the cobras in the chamber. It's like, let me

1126
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 1: get this straight. If ATASNJA keeps winning, you can't do

1127
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 1: a style bender line. I mean, you have to be

1128
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 1: creatively bankrupt to not do something like that. Now, Lomachenko

1129
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 1: is a bit of a safe bet in terms of

1130
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 1: how much you can rely on him to win. It's boxing,

1131
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:15,720
Speaker 1: and of course he's a you know, beyond a special case.

1132
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 1: But nevertheless, it's like, dude, man, you know, this is

1133
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,320
Speaker 1: the one problem with the Rebox. I I've purchased some

1134
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: of their stuff, not the UFC fight kids, but like

1135
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 1: just regular sort of Rebox training gear. It's nice, it's good,

1136
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 1: but it's just what it is good.

1137
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm wearing a Rebox Phil Brooks, you know

1138
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 4: article of clothing right now. It fits great, you know.

1139
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 1: But I mean here's my point. It's just lettering with

1140
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 1: two stars. It's boring as shit. They need somebody that

1141
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 1: can add up the you know, add the creative input.

1142
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 1: A lot of venom stuff, if you asked me, is

1143
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: a little bit garish, but they know the combat sports space,

1144
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: and I think they'll probably do a better job than rebox.

1145
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 4: I can't know where's a flicktion when we need them?

1146
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: Right?

1147
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 4: Where's tap out? It's an expression of combat known worldwide. Look,

1148
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 4: I know WW owns it now, but can we just

1149
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 4: go back to like black T shirts with with like

1150
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,280
Speaker 4: dripped paint all over it and guys you know, snart

1151
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:03,919
Speaker 4: and coke and wearing them to fights real tight?

1152
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:05,800
Speaker 1: You know, can we just go back? Well, there's nothing

1153
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 1: was better than the days when MMA fans looked like juggalos,

1154
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 1: all right, at Miller they still.

1155
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 4: Do, by the way, you don't cover fights anymore, they

1156
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 4: kind of still do.

1157
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 1: Keep going at Milla, Milla, Seduardo, Milos Eduardo.

1158
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 3: What do you think is Dana's hesitation?

1159
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 1: BC? He's a good question actually to outright say. Al

1160
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 1: Joe is next up for Yon like he did for

1161
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 1: Burns obviously.

1162
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 4: For yeah, easy question, easy easy answer. Here, two words

1163
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 4: for you, Henry Shudo, right, big business? Okay, yeah, yeah, dude, obviously,

1164
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 4: I mean, look like you know, Yan against al Joe

1165
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 4: is like a hardcore fans wet dream In a lot

1166
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 4: of ways, a lot of these matchups are But why

1167
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 4: did Jose Aldo get that fight right? For business purposes?

1168
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 4: If Henry Scutto comes back and faces the guy who's

1169
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 4: been sleeping in his bed, you know, like to UFC

1170
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 4: obviously there do you have to be some kind of

1171
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 4: promise from Henry Seguto that you would can you to

1172
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 4: campaign at thirty five if if you win your championship

1173
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:08,399
Speaker 4: back you know, to me, without question, that's why. And look,

1174
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 4: let's be honest also about something that we thought was

1175
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 4: true and then actually got confirmed this week when UFC

1176
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 4: COO Lawrence Epstein did a bunch of media interviews in

1177
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:20,879
Speaker 4: Abu Dhabi and basically said, oh, yeah, by the way,

1178
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 4: those really nice people in Abu Dhabi that Dana can't

1179
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 4: stop praising, they gave us a gorgeous site fee for

1180
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 4: coming here. They paid our travel, accommodation's food and our

1181
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 4: COVID testing. So when you hear Dana White and that

1182
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,799
Speaker 4: media scrum, go, yeah, I'm thinking about even buying a

1183
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 4: house out here because we're going to be doing a

1184
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 4: lot of business here. We are so far removed from

1185
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 4: the days when Henry Segudo retired because there'd be no

1186
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 4: live gates for at least nine to twelve months. Luke,

1187
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 4: Now we got that rich people offering us money to

1188
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:56,800
Speaker 4: come there. The game has changed. That's why Henry Segudo's

1189
00:55:56,800 --> 00:56:00,879
Speaker 4: twigger fingers are fast again, and that's why Dana won't

1190
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 4: commit on that. And by the way, Luke, did you

1191
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 4: listen to Dana on the postwrip press conference. I know

1192
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 4: he's fifty. I know he's getting a little old. You know,

1193
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 4: he admits he can't hear. He looked washed. He just

1194
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,439
Speaker 4: had no maybe. I mean, it was a long week.

1195
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 4: It's probably you know, ten in the morning there, he's

1196
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 4: probably been up all night. But sometimes I fear for

1197
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 4: that man. He runs ragged, you know.

1198
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 3: He certainly does.

1199
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 1: To your point though, by the way, about the extra money,

1200
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 1: you know, you have to wonder if that's how they're

1201
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 1: able to get masvidoal right, burns fall.

1202
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:32,319
Speaker 4: Under, Luke, there's no wonder giant sight fee. That's how

1203
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 4: they got them, bro, there ain't no financial concerns.

1204
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:35,800
Speaker 1: How much how much do you think the s I

1205
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: fee was ten million?

1206
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 4: I'd say more than that fifty from what we know now. Look,

1207
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 4: I'm not trying to, you know, generically group UAE with

1208
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 4: their neighbors Saudi Arabia and say same everything. But when

1209
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 4: we know the stupid amount of money Saudi gave WWE

1210
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 4: to come, and then when we know that they gave

1211
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 4: Anthony Joshua eighty million dollars to come there and face

1212
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 4: the Ruiz, I don't think there's a limit Luke on

1213
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 4: what they could have gotten.

1214
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, golf, the golf.

1215
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 1: I mean you can sort of say golf arab Oil states, Yeah,

1216
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 1: they have big money. You're right, that could do it.

1217
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:15,839
Speaker 1: To answer the question about Al Joe, there's also this,

1218
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 1: I mean, we love it. Al Joe is literally we

1219
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 1: love him so much. He's the only fighter we've ever

1220
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: had on this show.

1221
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 3: That's it.

1222
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 1: He's the only one we've ever allowed to come on

1223
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 1: the show because we like him. He's a great analyst

1224
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 1: that we believe in his upside. But there's also a

1225
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 1: reality that he hasn't quite turned that corner yet in

1226
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 1: terms of his popularity. I think the casual audience just

1227
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 1: doesn't know who he is. Now. He beats Peter Johann,

1228
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 1: he gets on his way, but maybe they're holding out.

1229
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 1: Henry Sejudo seems like a decent choice or a theory anyway,

1230
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 1: holding out some ult.

1231
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 4: If all Joe faces marish next, that'd be like that

1232
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 4: make me cry. I mean, the guy destroyed Sana again,

1233
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 4: you could have We did argue that fight should have

1234
00:57:58,080 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 4: had an interim belt on it. It was that big

1235
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 4: of a fight, right, and and you know, if he

1236
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 4: if he's got to now go through another killer, Come on,

1237
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 4: the guys, the guy's paid his dues, put them in there.

1238
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 1: All right. And then last but not least, at little

1239
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 1: Cameron with two ends asks with both Androge's and Aldo's

1240
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 1: corners telling him that they were decisively winning their fights

1241
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 1: early on. Do MMA corners overstate their fighters success as

1242
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 1: a strategy or do they actually believe what they're saying.

1243
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 1: It's hard to parse sometimes, but never take away from

1244
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 1: the fact that it is often strategy, which is you

1245
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 1: might be like, well, if you're down, wouldn't you want

1246
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 1: to tell them that they're down so that they fight

1247
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 1: with more urgency, almost like your coach acts as your

1248
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 1: open scoring. Sure, but they might know their fighter and

1249
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 1: they might tell them if they're you know, behind, they

1250
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 1: might know that they get nervous and when they get nervous,

1251
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 1: they don't perform up to potential. Rather, when they tell

1252
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 1: them they're doing well, it keeps them calm and calm,

1253
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 1: a smooth smooth as fast, right, and so that kind

1254
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 1: of a thing. So you know, are they are they

1255
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 1: blind to their fighters' chances? Probably to an extent, that's true,

1256
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: but never ever separate that. You see a lot of this,

1257
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 1: That is you would ask him afterwards like, yeah, of

1258
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 1: course I knew he was. Now you think I'm blind.

1259
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 1: I'm just telling him that so that I can get

1260
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 1: the best out of him. And that's how I do it.

1261
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 1: I tell them fibbs basically.

1262
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, why did coach Edmund tell Ronda after Holly kicked

1263
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 4: her ass for five minutes that she was winning? Look,

1264
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 4: you're looking great, head movement. You know, they know their

1265
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 4: fighters break down better than anybody because they see him

1266
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 4: in the in the darkest moments in training, when when

1267
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 4: they're breaking right, when they're pushed to the limits. So

1268
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 4: I got no problem with that. And by the way,

1269
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 4: on Roger's corner did hedge it by saying, you know, hey,

1270
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 4: you know you look like your head but it could

1271
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 4: have gone you know, it could be the other way too,

1272
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 4: So whatever I mean. Look, it's like there's certain moments,

1273
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 4: all right. If Hulk Hogan drops the N word in

1274
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 4: pillow talk and it makes it out to the world,

1275
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 4: let's fry him.

1276
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 1: But there are certain moments when the.

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Speaker 4: Words you use aren't aren't you know, aren't necessarily what

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Speaker 4: you feel?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 3: Is this a way to cover up for all their jokes?

1281
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 3: You tell off the air?

1282
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 1: Oh? How first?

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01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 4: How dare you? How dare you?

1284
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 1: Okay, No, I've teasing. He doesn't do that, not often,

1285
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 1: just sometimes. All right.

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Speaker 3: With that in mind, With that in mind.

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Speaker 1: VC, it is time for you to steer the show.

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01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 1: It's time for your little segment where we look at dongs.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, play the animation. Okay, it's time. Let's go. This

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Speaker 4: is what you wait for. All week we searched the globe,

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01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 4: high and low, the good, the bad, and the ugly,

1292
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:26,919
Speaker 4: and combat sports and beyond it is have you seen

1293
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 4: this shit? And last week we had a birthday edition,

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01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 4: some people still claiming was our biggest and best ever. Luke,

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01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 4: this week is gonna win you over. I got great shit.

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Speaker 4: You ready for it? You're ready for it?

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01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 1: I'm ready, I'm ready?

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01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 4: All right? You have seen two fifty one. Hey, big

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Speaker 4: knockout on the undercard. We didn't talk about Jerry Prozatschka

1300
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 4: sending Vulcan Ozdemir to hell, But how about this weird

1301
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 4: Johnny Walker cockto bullshit? He pulled out? You done with this?

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01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a talent. I'm not the biggest fan. I'm

1303
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 1: not the biggest fan of acting like a donk, but

1304
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 1: he's got some real ability.

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01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean he's done some things out side

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01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 4: of the UFC. It was a strong breakthrough performance, but

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01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 4: I think everybody for the first five minutes was like,

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01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 4: who's this asshole?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 4: But hey, big win, shout out to that.

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Speaker 1: Did you notice? Did you notice you had three different haircuts.

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01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 1: The sides were shaved less than the top, but the

1313
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 1: back was shaved not as much as the sides, So

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Speaker 1: he had like a reverse mullet slash, high and tight.

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01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 4: From the Abner Marris playbook. When you have different like

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01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 4: ecosystems going on in different parts of your head, Luke,

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01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 4: you're you're in it. Okay, I'm down with that. Okay,

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01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 4: all right, chicks still dig that, thank you. Let's move

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01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 4: on here. Hey, Top rank boxing over the weekend from

1320
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:40,920
Speaker 4: the Bubble in Las Vegas, Corey Champion and Peter Cortest

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01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 4: double lockdown.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, for MMA fans who don't know,

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01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 1: as long as your glove touches the matt in boxing,

1324
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 1: it's a it's a knockdown, bob top round to this.

1325
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 1: This is the best of top rank boxing has gotten.

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01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 1: These fights have been dreadful, dude.

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Speaker 4: I was gonna say one of them went on to

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01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 4: knock out the other, but no one care, so I

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01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 4: didn't look it up. But uh, this was pretty cool

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01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 4: because our guy, Bernardo Usuna was doing a live hit

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01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 4: with Sports Center as this was going on over his shoulder,

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01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 4: so it was a fun little moment there. But uh yeah,

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Speaker 4: all right, hey let's move on here. Hey look this

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Speaker 4: might I'm serious, this might be the greatest MMA KO

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Speaker 4: of all time. This guy going six combination more mortal combat? Shit?

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Speaker 1: Here? What is this? What organization? Who is that? That

1337
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 1: is vicious? Is this like arees FC that African joint?

1338
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Speaker 4: Do you know how many times you have to hit

1339
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 4: the controller to make that work? Look, you gotta have

1340
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 4: like the R one, the the T one. You gotta

1341
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 4: have like eight.

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Speaker 1: Arms, bruh and this guy falls like a mannequin.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we've we've seen a lot of great shit

1344
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 4: on this show and this type of content. This is

1345
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:49,920
Speaker 4: a tremendous whoever that guy is.

1346
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 1: This guy gets knocked out that that posture is how

1347
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 1: I sleep on airplanes, you know, talking about like this,

1348
01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 1: like when you're in your chair.

1349
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 4: Like I mean, the guy was out on his feet

1350
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:04,919
Speaker 4: and there was some like Ray Mercer Tommy Morrison extra

1351
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 4: shots thrown on there, so wow, shout out, yes, indeed, hey,

1352
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 4: let's go to the bus stop, Luke, can you keep

1353
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 4: a buelo in order here? I think he trusts trying

1354
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 4: to steal the grocery bags of this fine lady and

1355
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 4: he gets sent to Hellan directly, Luke hammer shots. Look

1356
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 4: at fad Or right there, Fador's mom round and palm, Luke.

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01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 1: Fador's mom with the old bag, and I mean, what's

1358
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 1: this guy doing? Bro? That is Buckham? Buckham? Oh look

1359
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:35,919
Speaker 1: at this, just swatting the flies off this turn.

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Speaker 4: Luke, if you if you know, if you're living. Buela

1361
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 4: had had the young lady with her, and they got

1362
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 4: to know what.

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01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 1: This lady looks like. This looks like Eastern Europe somewhere.

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01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 4: Oh it is, it is.

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01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, they got jackets on and ship.

1366
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 4: You know there's some Mother Russia shit right here. I mean,

1367
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 4: shout out to them here.

1368
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 3: But bro, like how she doesn't even hesitate.

1369
01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 4: She would go old world savage if she needs right

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Speaker 4: And because your DC's play.

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Speaker 1: Did I ever tell you about the taxi ride I

1372
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Speaker 1: had in New York City where this dude went crazy?

1373
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 1: This is a true story I've got.

1374
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 3: I actually told this.

1375
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 1: I told half of the story on my life chat,

1376
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 1: but I'll finish the other part which I didn't tell.

1377
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 1: There's this bar I used to go to in New

1378
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 1: York City. It was constantly fights there. It's called the

1379
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 1: Village Idiot. I don't know if it's still around. I

1380
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 1: remember one time I got picked up by this dude.

1381
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:23,800
Speaker 1: I don't know where he was from, but he was

1382
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 1: dark complexion man. And this guy was leaving Village Idiot

1383
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 1: drunk and like was walked in front of my taxi

1384
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 1: cab driver and then like you know, hammer fisted the

1385
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 1: hood of the car and my taxi cab driver got

1386
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:37,760
Speaker 1: out and I got in his face shouting, match gets

1387
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 1: back in and yells at the guys who's driving off.

1388
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 1: Don't fuck with me, motherfucker. I'll stab you. I'm third

1389
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 1: world one of the all time greatest cab rides I've

1390
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 1: ever had.

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01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:54,520
Speaker 4: That's a great quote that in fact, when we launched

1392
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 4: two point zero of the MK Merch, we should get

1393
01:04:56,800 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 4: that as a as a yes, all right, let's move on. Hey, Luke,

1394
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 4: it's weightlifting fails or right or right in your wheelhouse.

1395
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 4: Check out the deadlift follies on this guy. He's jacked,

1396
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 4: he's focused and uh, he might be on Queer Street here, Luke,

1397
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 4: what's going on? Explain to me what's happening here?

1398
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 1: Uh. He he locked out his knees, which you're supposed to,

1399
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 1: but he held his breath too long, and he he

1400
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 1: did a rear naked choke on himself. Basically, oh right,

1401
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 1: because you're holding you're holding your breath.

1402
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 3: See that.

1403
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:32,640
Speaker 1: And to me, if you're doing a one rep max,

1404
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 1: some people say not to do it, but I said,

1405
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 1: if I get dizzy at the top of a one

1406
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 1: rep max, actually let out a little bit of air

1407
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 1: because you have to hold in air to brace against

1408
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 1: the belt. And it looks like he just keeps it,

1409
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 1: got dizzy, drops the weight.

1410
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:47,880
Speaker 3: And then he did the old fish dance.

1411
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 4: This is embarrassing, right, I mean, this is bad. Does

1412
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:50,919
Speaker 4: not look good.

1413
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 1: Well, I saw a guy do this at Golds and

1414
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 1: then he went ass over tea kettle and I had

1415
01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 1: to call over a guy to help him, and then

1416
01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 1: he left the gym in shame.

1417
01:05:58,480 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 3: So I've seen worse, believe it.

1418
01:05:59,720 --> 01:05:59,919
Speaker 1: Okay.

1419
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 4: I love Jay the producer sitting in the back with

1420
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 4: that red tank top looking at his Instagram likes, you know,

1421
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 4: just like, yeah, nothing to see here.

1422
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how Jay. This is Jay, basically, this is

1423
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 1: his MK. This is what he does during the show.

1424
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 4: The show's blown up, the audio isn't SYNCD, you know,

1425
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, all right, hey, let's move on. Hey

1426
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 4: you know friend of the program UFC Bandamwaite, Brian boom Kelleher.

1427
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1428
01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 4: Check out his doppel ganger here going going all Florida

1429
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 4: man party trick on us with the double.

1430
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:33,160
Speaker 1: Nipple ass titties as.

1431
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:36,880
Speaker 4: God God, check out the areolas on that guy.

1432
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:41,800
Speaker 1: Wow, that guy's kind of hurt. Luke, that is fucking gross.

1433
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 1: Are them are them white claws?

1434
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:44,600
Speaker 4: What is he drinking there?

1435
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:51,040
Speaker 1: That's uh yeah, boy, that is yeah. My man needs

1436
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 1: psychological counseling here.

1437
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:54,920
Speaker 4: He does look like our guy though, right, he kind

1438
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:55,600
Speaker 4: of looks like him.

1439
01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:57,720
Speaker 1: He does, but then he's drinking like the bud light

1440
01:06:58,080 --> 01:06:59,920
Speaker 1: like challenge to white Claw.

1441
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:02,760
Speaker 4: You know, In fact, I don't know if I've ever

1442
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 4: seen this guy in boom Kellher in the same room.

1443
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:06,480
Speaker 4: Can we can we advance the footage here?

1444
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:07,000
Speaker 1: Are you?

1445
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 3: Are you? By the way, are you a white Claw guy?

1446
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:09,680
Speaker 3: Or no?

1447
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 4: No? No, hell no?

1448
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 1: No?

1449
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 4: Right, that's him, Luke, that's him.

1450
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know what, Brian Kelleher smart enough not

1451
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 1: to drive things through his nipples and then hang white

1452
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 1: cloth from him?

1453
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 4: Or is he No?

1454
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 1: No, he's a great guy.

1455
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 4: I love the guy. Former MMA beat panelist shout out

1456
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:27,560
Speaker 4: to that. Hey, Luke, let's flash back a little. Remember

1457
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 4: when we were kids and a young Shaquille O'Neal on

1458
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:32,720
Speaker 4: the Magic You should just break the ship out of backboards?

1459
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 4: Remember him on inside stuff with a madrashod? Just I mean,

1460
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:39,200
Speaker 4: what's your favorite one when he broke the backboard on

1461
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 4: Dwayne Shinte's head.

1462
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 1: Do we have that one?

1463
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:41,240
Speaker 4: Jay?

1464
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:45,200
Speaker 1: By the way, everybody hates a mad rashod, so this

1465
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 1: might be the best one.

1466
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:49,920
Speaker 4: This one's great against the nets here rookie year Dwayne

1467
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:52,480
Speaker 4: Schinti's mullet under the rim and Shack's just like.

1468
01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 1: Get out of the way, just a one man wrecking crew.

1469
01:07:57,800 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 4: I mean, he's just savage. And then he broke the

1470
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:01,920
Speaker 4: whole support against the Suns that game. I think we

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01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 4: got that one too.

1472
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 3: I mean, where is this headed?

1473
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 4: Well, Shaq is forty eight now, I'm pretty fat. But

1474
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 4: he was filming a reality show with Gronk and they

1475
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 4: went one on one and Luke, he still got it.

1476
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 4: Check this out, ye, dude, he just pulled that shit

1477
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:20,679
Speaker 4: right off.

1478
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 1: Dude, Shaq is just a fucking he is. I mean

1479
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:28,439
Speaker 1: he is from a different dimension, this man.

1480
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:30,599
Speaker 4: I mean imagined he like pulls up at a local

1481
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:33,600
Speaker 4: park and just just pulls the whole thing down and

1482
01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:35,160
Speaker 4: gets back in his car and drives away.

1483
01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 1: Did you ever see the Howard Stern episode where he

1484
01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:39,679
Speaker 1: talked about little Shack and no, I don't mean his children.

1485
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:43,720
Speaker 4: Oh no, I'm sure it was a large, long conversation.

1486
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:45,760
Speaker 1: Sorry, yes, I said he said it's he said it's

1487
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:47,720
Speaker 1: so big that he has seen women run out of

1488
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 1: the room screaming they look.

1489
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:52,240
Speaker 4: Hey, we got to get an interview with Shaq. I

1490
01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:54,640
Speaker 4: know all the smoke is probably first in line for that,

1491
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:56,240
Speaker 4: but we got to get an interview with Shack and

1492
01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 4: ask him just that. Hey, speaking of breaking and backboards, Luke,

1493
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:04,479
Speaker 4: you know our friend Jay coming in. Oh, they interviewed

1494
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 4: him last week. All right, Well, I don't think they

1495
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:07,639
Speaker 4: asked that because we asked the hard hitting question.

1496
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:09,559
Speaker 1: If we did an interview with Shaq, I would only

1497
01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:10,759
Speaker 1: want to talk about his dog.

1498
01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:14,479
Speaker 4: That is on brand for MK. But you know Instagram

1499
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:17,839
Speaker 4: drinking legend Ronnie Deutsch our boy. He has a tribute

1500
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:22,639
Speaker 4: to Shaq while he wears that Antonio Cromarty t shirt.

1501
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 4: We drink the beer, We've got the cigarette. This guy,

1502
01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:29,120
Speaker 4: by the way, if you're not following on Instagram, he

1503
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 4: knows how to party up there in New Hampshire. This

1504
01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:31,479
Speaker 4: guy's living.

1505
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:34,240
Speaker 1: Wait, but does it really count as Anthony as a

1506
01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:37,200
Speaker 1: Cromarty jersey if you're not dunking on one of his

1507
01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:38,519
Speaker 1: seventy five thousand kids.

1508
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, he did make a joke in that on his Instagram,

1509
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:43,680
Speaker 4: But hey, that's impressive pulling that down. This guy this

1510
01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:46,759
Speaker 4: I got to talk to this guy. He probably slays.

1511
01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:50,679
Speaker 4: I mean, he's got some he's got some intangible skills, Luke, if.

1512
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:52,679
Speaker 1: We have the next time we do a drinking show,

1513
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 1: like in person, whatever the hell that is. We got

1514
01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 1: to get this guy on the show man. We need

1515
01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:57,519
Speaker 1: we need this guy.

1516
01:09:57,720 --> 01:10:00,240
Speaker 4: This guy's a future star and I hope bar Duel

1517
01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:01,720
Speaker 4: doesn't steal him from us. A right, he is a

1518
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 4: future star in the in the making.

1519
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:03,439
Speaker 1: Here.

1520
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:05,840
Speaker 4: Uh, let's go on to more party tricks, Luke, this

1521
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:07,760
Speaker 4: has happened to a lot of us in our college days.

1522
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 2: Right.

1523
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:10,600
Speaker 4: You go to hit the bong and it's deep, and

1524
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 4: you're in that moment you're like, man, did I go

1525
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:13,000
Speaker 4: too far?

1526
01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:14,160
Speaker 1: Did I take too much?

1527
01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:14,240
Speaker 2: In?

1528
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 4: Am I gonna?

1529
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 1: Am?

1530
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 4: I gonna get?

1531
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 1: Ko't here?

1532
01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 4: Like you know, you're you're kind of stumbling and and

1533
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:21,599
Speaker 4: no one's really looking at you, and you're wearing your

1534
01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:25,920
Speaker 4: dad shirt and uh, yeah that is that is not Uh,

1535
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 4: it's all God, it's over. It's over. Way fit off. Wait,

1536
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 4: Leon Roberts jump in. It's over.

1537
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:34,600
Speaker 1: You know they say you can't od on marijuana, but

1538
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:35,799
Speaker 1: you can get pretty close.

1539
01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you can shut down a few of your

1540
01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:41,320
Speaker 4: internal organs. Uh if you get Yeah, this is.

1541
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:43,640
Speaker 1: This is how I want to end every One of

1542
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:46,240
Speaker 1: my days. Yes, yes, you know.

1543
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 4: I once worked at a nursing home. I found a

1544
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:49,960
Speaker 4: bag of purple haze and the drain at the end

1545
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 4: of the day when we were done mopping the floors. Luke,

1546
01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:55,000
Speaker 4: the guy looked at me. I picked up. He goes,

1547
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:57,680
Speaker 4: I would, I would, I would try that, and I

1548
01:10:57,720 --> 01:10:59,280
Speaker 4: and I did. It was the best ever, best ever,

1549
01:10:59,360 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 4: Luke found it.

1550
01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:02,760
Speaker 1: In a I had a moving company moved some of

1551
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:04,679
Speaker 1: my stuff once. When they came up and they packed

1552
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 1: all my stuff. And then when I unpacked it, I

1553
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:09,040
Speaker 1: had a box with the word bong on it, and

1554
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:11,800
Speaker 1: sure enough they had wrapped my bong in there. And

1555
01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:14,439
Speaker 1: I found out who the two guys were who moved me,

1556
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 1: and I gave them another tip after that because they

1557
01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:20,599
Speaker 1: took such good care with labeling and with the bubble wrap.

1558
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:23,960
Speaker 4: Wow, nice work tip the tip there. I like that,

1559
01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 4: all right? All right? If they would have hung around

1560
01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:27,800
Speaker 4: all night, you would have given him another tip. Hey,

1561
01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 4: let's mottle on. Hey, let's play game, Luke. We always

1562
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:32,880
Speaker 4: played fun games here. Let's play rate that golf swing

1563
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 4: one to ten, ten being the best? All right, Well, whoa,

1564
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 4: I jumped the gun. Check out this first This is fun.

1565
01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:40,479
Speaker 4: Look at this Coyle getting revenge for all the gas

1566
01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:41,680
Speaker 4: station beef I've eat and.

1567
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 1: Luke, what in the fuck are we watching?

1568
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:48,599
Speaker 4: I don't know, but he's about the third world then

1569
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 4: bitches right there? You see that leap, He's like, oh

1570
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:57,800
Speaker 4: you got beef rollers on that and the gas station.

1571
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:01,040
Speaker 1: Dude shouts to the girl, and who makes the leap

1572
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:03,640
Speaker 1: off of the one? Look, she almost falls, but she

1573
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 1: doesn't actually look at this thing the hell out of there?

1574
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:09,080
Speaker 4: I mean, were they tip in cows doing?

1575
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:13,040
Speaker 1: She jumps, she nearly falls, sticks the landing, it keeps going.

1576
01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:16,439
Speaker 4: Very head right. That is that is great? All right,

1577
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 4: let's play the golf game, Luke, I need you to

1578
01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:20,040
Speaker 4: rate me here one to ten on the golfs. Are

1579
01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:20,519
Speaker 4: you a golfer?

1580
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:23,479
Speaker 3: By the way, I go to the driving range? That's it,

1581
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 3: all right.

1582
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 4: Here's six foot nine Tyson Fury. You're boxing heavyweight champion.

1583
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:27,800
Speaker 4: What do you think, Luke?

1584
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:29,559
Speaker 1: You know what? Not half bad?

1585
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:31,479
Speaker 4: I'll give him an eight?

1586
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:33,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, seven and a half seven?

1587
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, let's move on.

1588
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:35,599
Speaker 1: Here.

1589
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:39,880
Speaker 4: Here's Sylvester Saloone's twenty two year old daughter, Cistine.

1590
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 1: Luke, Oh god, she jailed bait.

1591
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:46,960
Speaker 4: She was nineteen when this video was shot, but that

1592
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:49,400
Speaker 4: is in that is present, so you can you know,

1593
01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:49,960
Speaker 4: it's okay.

1594
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:54,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's spine like the chapel, like the chapel.

1595
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:57,280
Speaker 4: Then this is a pretty pristine shot here, Luke, I'm

1596
01:12:57,280 --> 01:12:59,640
Speaker 4: gonna I'm gonna give this video a few shots. But

1597
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:01,600
Speaker 4: the first shot I'm gonna give her is maybe like

1598
01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:02,120
Speaker 4: a seven.

1599
01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:04,280
Speaker 3: Right, that's pretty good.

1600
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:11,519
Speaker 1: Shoeless, you know in address shoeless, I'm pantsless. Let's do that, right, yeah,

1601
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 1: all right.

1602
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:15,040
Speaker 4: All right, let's bring on the legend here the Hall

1603
01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:17,400
Speaker 4: of Famer. Rate this guy's swing.

1604
01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:19,439
Speaker 3: Luke, Is this Charles?

1605
01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:20,920
Speaker 4: This is, sir Charles.

1606
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:23,760
Speaker 1: Yes, this this this fat bastard is about to just

1607
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:28,040
Speaker 1: break his back. Dude, What is wrong with this idiot?

1608
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 4: By the way, we have not played with this video

1609
01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:33,040
Speaker 4: at all. This is this is It's still going, Luke.

1610
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:35,839
Speaker 1: It's still going. I like how he has two strokes

1611
01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:39,040
Speaker 1: in like like actual like heart attacks in the middle

1612
01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 1: of the fucking swing. He like he like he pull

1613
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:45,800
Speaker 1: he pulls it back. Here we go, watch this, he

1614
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:48,880
Speaker 1: pulls it back. All right, everything's fine. He kind of

1615
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 1: strokes out right here and then he has another one

1616
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:56,559
Speaker 1: and then he's reaching for his life alert button to

1617
01:13:56,600 --> 01:13:58,160
Speaker 1: hit it because he's falling and he can't get up,

1618
01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:01,320
Speaker 1: and then he takes a step back.

1619
01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:05,920
Speaker 4: Watch this, bah, Yeah, it's the equivalent of you practicing

1620
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 4: the rhythm method when you're seventeen with a magazine right

1621
01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:09,080
Speaker 4: to prepare for the future.

1622
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:12,400
Speaker 1: You're oh, yeah, I mean this is you know, I mean,

1623
01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 1: this is McLevin trying to figure out what to do

1624
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:16,720
Speaker 1: with a model like this.

1625
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:18,760
Speaker 4: All right, I'm gonna give him a zero. Thank you.

1626
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:20,920
Speaker 4: That's the worst swing ever. Let's move on though. Check

1627
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:23,360
Speaker 4: out this rand amazing guy. This might he might be

1628
01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:25,120
Speaker 4: revolutionary here on this swing.

1629
01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:30,719
Speaker 3: Here the fuck is he doing?

1630
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:33,000
Speaker 4: That's how you get lyft right there. I'm gonna give

1631
01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 4: him a nine, Luke, that's badass.

1632
01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:37,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I need to see how far he hit.

1633
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:41,479
Speaker 4: It, Jay, things looks like each zero hitting a baseball.

1634
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:43,040
Speaker 4: This guy's gotta be great in bed too. Look at

1635
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:46,320
Speaker 4: this man, I mean this, yeah, all right, hey, let's

1636
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:48,559
Speaker 4: go on from here. Check out Mitch Kumstein. This is

1637
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:51,320
Speaker 4: how I golf, Luke, all right, check out the black socks,

1638
01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:56,200
Speaker 4: the hands far apart, you know, no idea where you're

1639
01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:59,080
Speaker 4: going with it? And watch out Earth because I'm coming

1640
01:14:59,160 --> 01:14:59,479
Speaker 4: for you.

1641
01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:03,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, I want to just want to point out

1642
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 1: with the black socks here and a shirt with like

1643
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:08,559
Speaker 1: the collar popped unbuttoned, this is what your boy looks

1644
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:11,080
Speaker 1: like when he's walking the dogs. Yeah.

1645
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:14,599
Speaker 4: Nice, that's me on all public golf courses my entire life.

1646
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:15,799
Speaker 4: That's why I don't do it anymore.

1647
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:21,599
Speaker 1: This is uh, I mean, it's like seeing Punk's UFC

1648
01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:22,280
Speaker 1: career right here.

1649
01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:24,759
Speaker 4: Just yes, ball didn't get your foot off the boat. Indeed,

1650
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:27,080
Speaker 4: let's close it out with Crappy Gill wa wait wait wait,

1651
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:28,920
Speaker 4: look at the guy in the back room in the

1652
01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:33,160
Speaker 4: back wait, go back, go back, Jake back, Jay, go back, Hey.

1653
01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:34,960
Speaker 1: Jay go back, go back, go back to the other

1654
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:43,519
Speaker 1: one from Look at the guy. Oh, this guy Fox,

1655
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 1: he is great. Look at that just blossom.

1656
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:51,720
Speaker 4: Oh there's a nice bonus Easter egg there.

1657
01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:53,840
Speaker 1: That was great. All right, Well that's what that's what

1658
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:55,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do to your toothbrush the first time I

1659
01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:56,479
Speaker 1: visit your house.

1660
01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 4: All right, Hey, hey, let's close with Crappy Gilmour here

1661
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:08,639
Speaker 4: the three step drive. I mean, it's an interesting concept

1662
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:10,200
Speaker 4: if you can pull it off, you know what I mean.

1663
01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:12,519
Speaker 1: Do you watch a ninety Day Fiance?

1664
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:17,040
Speaker 4: No, but a lot of people Jonathan Coachman doing podcasts

1665
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:17,400
Speaker 4: about it.

1666
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:20,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, so this guy looks like Big Ad from ninety

1667
01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:22,840
Speaker 1: Day Fiance. Just no neck, just fat as christ.

1668
01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:25,720
Speaker 4: I love the friends. The friends are making that. That

1669
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 4: is great, all right, this.

1670
01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:29,680
Speaker 1: Is no note. I was like, this guy is me

1671
01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 1: and my career attempts and his friends are my family.

1672
01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:38,320
Speaker 4: Let's go on to music. Look at this Phil Spector

1673
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:40,439
Speaker 4: look like with a very interesting guitar.

1674
01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:40,760
Speaker 1: Luke.

1675
01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:42,800
Speaker 4: It's made by a company called Epstein.

1676
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:47,960
Speaker 1: Oh god, did you see that documentary on Netflix?

1677
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:51,880
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, hey, they arrested Glane. People are about to

1678
01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:54,800
Speaker 4: go down. I mean people did go down. Yeah, people

1679
01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:57,240
Speaker 4: went down on but yeah, they're about to go down, Luke.

1680
01:16:57,280 --> 01:16:59,120
Speaker 4: I don't know if you can play this without getting arrested.

1681
01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:01,000
Speaker 4: But it's an interesting concept, right.

1682
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:03,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's a little too creepy for your boy.

1683
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:08,200
Speaker 4: I bet you a cannibal corpse has has uh yeah, yeah,

1684
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:12,400
Speaker 4: they've rocked that ax probably uh. Luke long lived the

1685
01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 4: Silver Surfer. This is how I used to arrive at

1686
01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:17,920
Speaker 4: the Morning Combat studio in New Jersey, which we'll never

1687
01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:20,599
Speaker 4: see again. By the way, but check out this old

1688
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:21,840
Speaker 4: legend right here.

1689
01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:27,080
Speaker 1: Dude, what is this kung fu master doing?

1690
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:30,440
Speaker 4: I'll have what he's having. That is tremendous.

1691
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, this guy is uh, I don't know what

1692
01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:38,439
Speaker 1: is he wearing? Like a he's like a mix between

1693
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:41,840
Speaker 1: a kung fu master and the dude from Back to

1694
01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:43,960
Speaker 1: the Future. Doc. Yes, doc.

1695
01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:45,680
Speaker 4: Hey, by the way, do you ever see the documentary

1696
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:47,240
Speaker 4: about Back to the Future called Back in Time?

1697
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:49,120
Speaker 3: No, I don't watch crap.

1698
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:51,599
Speaker 4: It was poorly directed, but it's pretty good though.

1699
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:52,280
Speaker 1: It's on Hulu.

1700
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:56,280
Speaker 4: All right, we're gonna close with this Luke. Happy birthday

1701
01:17:56,360 --> 01:18:00,360
Speaker 4: yesterday to the legend. Julio says our Chavez seen you're

1702
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:02,880
Speaker 4: fifty eight years old, and look at him work in

1703
01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:06,040
Speaker 4: the bag. Baby, Wow, still got it? Still got it, Luke?

1704
01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:09,000
Speaker 3: Pretty good, he's got it.

1705
01:18:09,320 --> 01:18:13,080
Speaker 1: He's literally still better than anyone who's ever hit a

1706
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:15,520
Speaker 1: heavy bag at a Gold's gym.

1707
01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:18,759
Speaker 4: Pretty much, Yeah, pretty much. I think he could probably.

1708
01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:20,880
Speaker 4: I mean, they don't have a senior division in boxing

1709
01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:23,000
Speaker 4: for a reason. But he's looking pretty good right here. Hey,

1710
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:24,719
Speaker 4: remember he used to have a son that fought.

1711
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:25,960
Speaker 1: Remember that guy was he?

1712
01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:26,800
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1713
01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:29,679
Speaker 1: I don't know. He sucked Chavez Junior.

1714
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:32,439
Speaker 4: He still posts videos on Instagram once in a while, Jade,

1715
01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:35,559
Speaker 4: can you play it? What the what is happening here?

1716
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 1: Luke? What is? What is?

1717
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:44,000
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1718
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:45,120
Speaker 3: Is this really him?

1719
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:52,680
Speaker 4: That's really him? Green hair and everything. Luke, that's stylish,

1720
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:53,440
Speaker 4: that's stylish.

1721
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:54,439
Speaker 3: Poor scene.

1722
01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:56,519
Speaker 4: What do you think is in that bag? Yeah? Two

1723
01:18:56,560 --> 01:18:58,280
Speaker 4: different kinds of hitting the bag there? All right?

1724
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:00,840
Speaker 1: I ketamine?

1725
01:19:01,160 --> 01:19:04,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got one more for you on the way out.

1726
01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:08,439
Speaker 4: Check out producer Jay on vacation at the louverra Go

1727
01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 4: and tip on Tip MK style. Your thoughts.

1728
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:14,679
Speaker 1: Did he follow this up by doing the lame tourist

1729
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:17,559
Speaker 1: thing at the leaning tower of a pizza where he

1730
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:19,559
Speaker 1: just like pushes it up? You know.

1731
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:22,920
Speaker 4: He did?

1732
01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:30,320
Speaker 1: Yes, apparently and literally he did. Jay is every American idiot.

1733
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:34,639
Speaker 1: You know. Luckily for us, the American passport is now

1734
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 1: worthless and we can't go anywhere. But you know, when

1735
01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:40,280
Speaker 1: Jay could, he made a mockery of Americans everywhere.

1736
01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:42,160
Speaker 4: Thank Hey, you know you got to give Jake ja

1737
01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:45,160
Speaker 4: credit for his shameless pursuit of fame. He's come so

1738
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:48,599
Speaker 4: close so many times, Luke, he only had that boy band,

1739
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 4: no escape, He's got documentaries yet this show is what's

1740
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:54,960
Speaker 4: going to make them. This show right here, the one

1741
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:55,679
Speaker 4: about Dongs.

1742
01:19:55,840 --> 01:20:00,320
Speaker 1: This show probably probably his best shot, last shot really anyway.

1743
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, all right, he had a good run there.

1744
01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:03,880
Speaker 4: Oh that's that's that's the share of the week, Luke.

1745
01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:04,880
Speaker 4: I hope you saw it all right.

1746
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:05,240
Speaker 1: I did.

1747
01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:06,479
Speaker 3: I certainly did great job.

1748
01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:09,120
Speaker 1: My friend has always time for odds and ENDSBC, what

1749
01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:10,679
Speaker 1: do you have for odds and ends?

1750
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:14,360
Speaker 4: UFC four is the new video game release. You know,

1751
01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:16,920
Speaker 4: released stuff coming up, but it was debuted over the

1752
01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:19,400
Speaker 4: weekend in terms of unveiling it, as you mentioned mos

1753
01:20:19,479 --> 01:20:22,519
Speaker 4: Vidal Adasani on the cover. But the big reveal that

1754
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 4: had been teased before Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury as

1755
01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:30,000
Speaker 4: playable characters. Now this isn't abnormal. They've had Mike, Tyson,

1756
01:20:30,040 --> 01:20:33,120
Speaker 4: Bruce Lee in the past. It's a fun little add on.

1757
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:35,719
Speaker 4: I think you can order early and get that or whatever.

1758
01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:38,640
Speaker 4: But I'm wondering, Luke, if there's something deeper there. We

1759
01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 4: do know that Dana has teased this zoofa boxing idea

1760
01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:44,400
Speaker 4: forever that hasn't gotten off the ground. We know that

1761
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:48,160
Speaker 4: he loves him some Tyson Fury, and we know that

1762
01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:50,960
Speaker 4: that is the fight to make aj versus Fury once

1763
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:53,320
Speaker 4: they get through all their mandatories. I wonder if this

1764
01:20:53,479 --> 01:20:57,639
Speaker 4: is his way of buttering up close to them and

1765
01:20:57,640 --> 01:21:00,720
Speaker 4: and with the hopeing idea that eventually he could put

1766
01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:02,439
Speaker 4: that fight on pay per view and then have some

1767
01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:05,280
Speaker 4: role in it. I'm spitballing here, but you know that

1768
01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:11,080
Speaker 4: controversial dude who Fury rolls with, right, the gangster? Yeah,

1769
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:14,720
Speaker 4: doesn't he operate in the UAE. I'm wondering if they

1770
01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:17,000
Speaker 4: all showed up at the same you know, eyes wide

1771
01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:19,719
Speaker 4: shut party without pants, and this is like a slow

1772
01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:22,160
Speaker 4: play toward something bigger. But it's interesting.

1773
01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:25,639
Speaker 1: Are you gonna play the game I'm gonna buy?

1774
01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:27,600
Speaker 4: I just bought Okay, so people got on me for

1775
01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:29,280
Speaker 4: a mention I made where I was keeping my kids

1776
01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 4: on the PS three Humble level, I help them buy

1777
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:37,479
Speaker 4: an Xbox One, so we've upped our game, luke. Okay,

1778
01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:40,479
Speaker 4: I just downloaded Mortal Kombat, which we can have a

1779
01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:43,240
Speaker 4: discussion on another show. It's fricking incredible. But I think

1780
01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:45,760
Speaker 4: I'm gonna buy UFC three and work my way in.

1781
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:48,040
Speaker 1: All right, why did you buy an Xbox one when

1782
01:21:48,040 --> 01:21:50,400
Speaker 1: the new Xbox is coming out in like a matter

1783
01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:51,560
Speaker 1: of months.

1784
01:21:51,479 --> 01:21:53,640
Speaker 4: Because I've been making my kids play PS three for

1785
01:21:53,680 --> 01:21:55,719
Speaker 4: as long as they've been able to speak. Luke, Okay,

1786
01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 4: all right, you know things happen in in waves, in increments, right.

1787
01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:02,559
Speaker 1: Uh, okay, can I play you?

1788
01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:03,400
Speaker 4: Can I play you in.

1789
01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:07,559
Speaker 1: Mortal Kombat? I don't know how that works. I play

1790
01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:10,040
Speaker 1: off my PC. I don't know enough about gaming to

1791
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:12,479
Speaker 1: tell you if we can or not. I'm assuming we can.

1792
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:14,479
Speaker 4: We'll get a nerd to figure that out. Yeah, we'll

1793
01:22:14,479 --> 01:22:17,080
Speaker 4: get one of our nerds to figure that out. Also, Luke,

1794
01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:19,599
Speaker 4: I wanted to shout out this. I know everyone on

1795
01:22:19,640 --> 01:22:23,760
Speaker 4: Twitter and Facebook is talking about the play Hamilton that's

1796
01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:26,800
Speaker 4: now a movie on Disney Plus. And I didn't want

1797
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:29,040
Speaker 4: to buy into the hype and I didn't want to

1798
01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:31,479
Speaker 4: watch it. But my wife forced us as a family

1799
01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:34,080
Speaker 4: the other night. And even though my kids only made

1800
01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:37,760
Speaker 4: it like fifteen minutes and they were out, and even

1801
01:22:37,800 --> 01:22:42,559
Speaker 4: though it's long as balls, that's freaking fantastic, Luke. There's

1802
01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:45,360
Speaker 4: sometimes culture is so good that it can't even be

1803
01:22:45,479 --> 01:22:50,600
Speaker 4: lost on simpletons like me. Top to bottom, it's freaking fantastic,

1804
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:54,639
Speaker 4: And Luke, it was very reminiscent of like the first

1805
01:22:54,640 --> 01:22:56,920
Speaker 4: time you listen to the album Rumors by Fleetwood Mac,

1806
01:22:56,960 --> 01:22:59,680
Speaker 4: you're like, I know everybody and their mother owns that.

1807
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:02,080
Speaker 4: It's old forty six billion copies, and I know half

1808
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:04,160
Speaker 4: the kids I went to high school with where conceived

1809
01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:06,439
Speaker 4: to that album. But it really can't be that good, right,

1810
01:23:06,479 --> 01:23:08,800
Speaker 4: A bunch of husbands and wives divorcing each other. And

1811
01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:10,240
Speaker 4: then you listen to it and you're like, you know,

1812
01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 4: all right, this okay, I know that, so that's pretty good.

1813
01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:15,440
Speaker 4: And then by the end you're like, this just freaking brilliant.

1814
01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:19,040
Speaker 4: I kind of went through that hamster wheel on good

1815
01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:22,680
Speaker 4: old Hamilton there and that ahole Aaron Burr, you know,

1816
01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:23,960
Speaker 4: well done? Do you watch that yet?

1817
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:27,920
Speaker 1: Hamilton is hip hop for lame people who don't like

1818
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:30,800
Speaker 1: hip hop, So no, I've not seen it, and I'm

1819
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:34,120
Speaker 1: not going to see it. I went into the Kennedy

1820
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:37,679
Speaker 1: Center and I saw the Book of Mormon there, which

1821
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:40,400
Speaker 1: was done by the South Park guys, and I remember

1822
01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:42,760
Speaker 1: going and I really enjoyed it. If you've not seen it,

1823
01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:45,400
Speaker 1: it's good, it's great, it's very funny, it's fine, it's

1824
01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:47,960
Speaker 1: worth your time. But there were people in there like

1825
01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:52,200
Speaker 1: beside themselves, laughing when it's not even as good as

1826
01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:54,760
Speaker 1: the South Park movie, like and if you watch South Park,

1827
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:56,800
Speaker 1: it's just I'm not gonna say run of the Mill

1828
01:23:56,880 --> 01:24:00,800
Speaker 1: south Park, but it's it's standard park. And so the

1829
01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:02,760
Speaker 1: lesson I took there was there were people who are

1830
01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:06,960
Speaker 1: patrons of the Kennedy Center here in the capitalists statusunidos

1831
01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:10,200
Speaker 1: who are not used to South Park, but delivered through

1832
01:24:10,240 --> 01:24:13,720
Speaker 1: a mechanism that they can enjoy and commonly appreciate, which

1833
01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:16,640
Speaker 1: is musicals. It's South Park for people who don't like

1834
01:24:16,720 --> 01:24:17,200
Speaker 1: South Park.

1835
01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:20,200
Speaker 4: Hamilton, you just dropped a doogie on, Hamilton.

1836
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:20,840
Speaker 1: What's your beef?

1837
01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:23,440
Speaker 4: Are you trying to say that you're so evolved?

1838
01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:27,799
Speaker 1: Hamilton? And I'm here to say I want to free

1839
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:31,240
Speaker 1: slaves in a major way. It's like, who the fuck

1840
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:34,559
Speaker 1: could like this shit? If you at all like hip hop,

1841
01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:36,640
Speaker 1: it's just not pay So.

1842
01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:40,400
Speaker 4: I like hip hop, you know, to a degree, but you.

1843
01:24:40,520 --> 01:24:41,840
Speaker 3: Is that what you like? You like hip hop?

1844
01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:45,920
Speaker 4: Luke? It's freaking brilliant in every aspect, from performance to

1845
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:49,559
Speaker 4: how it was written to the mixture of you know,

1846
01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:53,360
Speaker 4: history that not everyone loves with a with a a

1847
01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:56,000
Speaker 4: hip wrapping paper applied to it. You're really just gonna

1848
01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:58,559
Speaker 4: crap on it as stuff for white people to watch

1849
01:24:58,600 --> 01:24:58,920
Speaker 4: at home.

1850
01:24:59,160 --> 01:25:02,960
Speaker 1: Yes, Hamilton is something for people who the most they

1851
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:06,040
Speaker 1: can get down with rap is either Queen Latifah or

1852
01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:10,080
Speaker 1: Jurassic Five, and they drink a red Bull for pep and.

1853
01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:11,640
Speaker 4: You see it. Did you watch it?

1854
01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:14,599
Speaker 1: Though? That's it, That is the extent of their ability

1855
01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:16,200
Speaker 1: to get into that that art.

1856
01:25:16,240 --> 01:25:18,360
Speaker 4: But did you watch it? Because I just laid out

1857
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:20,240
Speaker 4: my my inhibitions coming in.

1858
01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:22,320
Speaker 1: I didn't want to watch it. I've never eaten a

1859
01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:24,920
Speaker 1: shit sandwich. I am fairly confident I don't need to.

1860
01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:26,280
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

1861
01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:27,280
Speaker 3: It's just notuke.

1862
01:25:27,479 --> 01:25:29,080
Speaker 4: You might have. You might have, you might have stumbled

1863
01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:30,559
Speaker 4: into a bad take care, you may have.

1864
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:34,000
Speaker 1: This may be the listen I understand. I understand that

1865
01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:38,040
Speaker 1: there are plenty of I'm not saying I'm not laying

1866
01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:41,200
Speaker 1: in my own way, I am. But if you actually

1867
01:25:41,400 --> 01:25:44,599
Speaker 1: like hip hop as an art form, listening to Hamilton

1868
01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:48,639
Speaker 1: is fucking painful. It is legitimately painful, and long excerpts

1869
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:51,760
Speaker 1: that I've seen have done nothing but make my rear

1870
01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:54,360
Speaker 1: end itch and my stomach wan to vomit.

1871
01:25:54,479 --> 01:25:57,439
Speaker 4: So well, first of all, break into a hemp infused

1872
01:25:57,479 --> 01:25:59,519
Speaker 4: klo so you can show the hell out. Jay, Can

1873
01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:01,479
Speaker 4: you break this tie breaker? I'm sure you and your

1874
01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:05,559
Speaker 4: your kids have sat down and watched this, Ja Jay when.

1875
01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:07,360
Speaker 1: You work, when you were watching Hamilton in a room

1876
01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:10,599
Speaker 1: that had a AC unit in the window, like a

1877
01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:16,320
Speaker 1: fucking redneck? What did you think? Jay?

1878
01:26:16,360 --> 01:26:17,719
Speaker 4: Can we get a one word verdict?

1879
01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:20,040
Speaker 1: Jay?

1880
01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:23,240
Speaker 4: He all right? He all right, Well let me frame this.

1881
01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:26,280
Speaker 4: Jay just shout on it too. But everything Jay watches,

1882
01:26:26,280 --> 01:26:29,720
Speaker 4: including the last dance, he refuses himself to enjoy it

1883
01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:32,680
Speaker 4: because he critiques the directing. So come on, get get it.

1884
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:35,160
Speaker 4: All of y'all get out of here. Okay, I didn't

1885
01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:36,200
Speaker 4: watch it every time.

1886
01:26:36,280 --> 01:26:37,240
Speaker 3: Every time there.

1887
01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:42,400
Speaker 1: Look at this dufis, look at him.

1888
01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:46,360
Speaker 4: That male body has three children? All right, thank you?

1889
01:26:46,760 --> 01:26:51,439
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, Jay is proof you should get a license

1890
01:26:51,479 --> 01:26:55,160
Speaker 1: before you can procreate. I mean, look at this. Zero unbelievable.

1891
01:26:55,280 --> 01:26:58,280
Speaker 4: But Luke, seriously, you've listened to rumors. By the end

1892
01:26:58,320 --> 01:27:01,040
Speaker 4: of it, you're like, this is a master full piece

1893
01:27:01,080 --> 01:27:03,080
Speaker 4: of production. This is incredible.

1894
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:04,960
Speaker 1: I'm down with Fleetwood maca dude. I'm just telling you,

1895
01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:08,720
Speaker 1: I've seen long excerpts of Hamilton. It is painful for

1896
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:11,120
Speaker 1: me to watch, legitimately painful. I cannot.

1897
01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:13,120
Speaker 4: I think you're trying to No, I think you're trying

1898
01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:15,720
Speaker 4: to be so hard right now that you you back

1899
01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:16,760
Speaker 4: yourself into a corner.

1900
01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:19,400
Speaker 1: Listen, I'm a forty year old soon to be forty

1901
01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:23,080
Speaker 1: one year old white dad. Nothing I like is cool,

1902
01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:26,920
Speaker 1: and I understand that. I'm just telling you, I don't

1903
01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:30,320
Speaker 1: know how you can actually like for me. I'm listening

1904
01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:35,559
Speaker 1: to Crime pays By by Freddie Gibbs. Listening to Hamilton

1905
01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:39,040
Speaker 1: is like, it's not possible. It's just the worst shit ever.

1906
01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:40,160
Speaker 1: So now you know what I'm gonna do.

1907
01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:42,720
Speaker 4: I'm gonna listen to your bullshit Cannibal Corps and be like,

1908
01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:45,479
Speaker 4: eh man, this just for kids, man, I want the

1909
01:27:45,520 --> 01:27:47,439
Speaker 4: real stuff that's gonna make me blow my brain out.

1910
01:27:47,439 --> 01:27:48,559
Speaker 4: You know, no, get out of here.

1911
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:50,920
Speaker 1: You can listen to. You can listen to Aborted and

1912
01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:53,519
Speaker 1: Gore Guts. That might be more your thing. I mean,

1913
01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:56,160
Speaker 1: come on, I mean, I was gonna do for my

1914
01:27:56,200 --> 01:27:58,920
Speaker 1: odds at Nxuria Prahadjka, but we kind of already covered him.

1915
01:27:58,920 --> 01:28:00,000
Speaker 1: So let me get to the other piece of new

1916
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:04,040
Speaker 1: that I found interesting. Jared Gordon I think fights either

1917
01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:07,679
Speaker 1: Wednesday or Saturday. I'm not sure. But here's the DEALBC.

1918
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Speaker 1: I'm sure you saw this. His entire team tested positive

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Speaker 1: for COVID. He had nobody, So you know what, two

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Speaker 1: men stood out and said, we got you player number one,

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Speaker 1: Paul Felder, who I think is managed by the same guy,

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Speaker 1: Brian Butler, and.

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Speaker 3: Then number two.

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Speaker 1: Don't forget he's already there because Dan Egay is taking

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Speaker 1: on Calvin Cator on Wednesday. Eric Nixon from Extreme Couture said,

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Speaker 1: I got you player. Shouts to Paul Felder. Shouts to

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Speaker 1: Eric Nixon on short notice, helping a guy out inside

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Speaker 1: the MMA community who needs a hand. And you know what,

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Speaker 1: I don't like taking sides in MMA fights when I'm

1930
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Speaker 1: covering him, but it wouldn't be the worst thing in

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Speaker 1: the world to see Jared Gordon get his hand raised.

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Speaker 1: And amazing that those two guys are so generous.

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Speaker 3: With the time.

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Speaker 1: Paul Felder, by the way, commentating that card leaving the booth,

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Speaker 1: cornering and then going back to that booth, amazing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's pretty bad ass there. I thought you were

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Speaker 4: gonna say Travis is elected to jump in, but no, no, he's.

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Speaker 1: To be telling every epidemiologist that their expertise is not

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Speaker 1: wanted here.

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Speaker 4: Hey, lo Luke, can you update our bet? When when

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Speaker 4: are we gonna see full arenas? Because New Zealand not

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Speaker 4: anytime soon. Well, Australia just announced they're gonna do that

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Speaker 4: Jeff horned Tim Zu Junior fight in front of a crowd.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but the bet was not Australia. I mean, the

1945
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Speaker 1: bet was here.

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Speaker 4: All right, give me a date, Give me a date

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Speaker 4: right now. You don't have to. You know, I'm not

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Speaker 4: gonna put you. I'm gonna hold you to this date.

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Speaker 1: Okay. So we're saying, we're saying, we're saying, Okay, I

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Speaker 1: think you and I both would agree it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: much more likely to be outdoors than indoors, right, Okay,

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Speaker 1: indoors is indoors is gonna be a problem for a while.

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Speaker 1: So twenty thousand. Oh by the way, I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you saw this. The Ravens Stadium, M and T

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Speaker 1: Bank Stadium. It seats like seventy thousand plus. They're gonna

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Speaker 1: arrange it for outdoor seating, and they paired it down

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Speaker 1: to fourteen thousand, right, which is a shitload of people.

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Speaker 1: They're giving up. But that's how they get it to

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01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:08,360
Speaker 1: socially distance and blah blah blah. So when will we

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Speaker 1: see M and T Bank Stadium filled with fourteen thousand people?

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Speaker 4: Now the bet was more full, arenas not compromised?

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Speaker 1: You sit on this behalf, I mean, like seventy thousand people.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I don't even know. I don't.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I wouldn't want to make that claim fourteen thousand.

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Speaker 4: Like MGM grand filled right or indoors.

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Speaker 1: Man, that's going to be hard, dude, that's just going

1968
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Speaker 1: to be a really hard thing to do.

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying I'm confident in our bed anymore. Things

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Speaker 4: are changing rapidly, Louis.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they certainly are. So we'll see.

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Speaker 1: But by the way, it wasn't officially confirmed. Bellator might

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01:30:46,720 --> 01:30:49,760
Speaker 1: have a show indoors mohegan Sun July twenty fourth, so

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Speaker 1: be on the lookout for that as well. Waiting for

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Speaker 1: some confirmation.

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Speaker 4: I think, okay, yeah, we're waiting for a big announcement

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Speaker 4: on the future of fight sports, you know, with our you.

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Speaker 1: See, we should say something real quickly. We saw the

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Speaker 1: ad role at the beginning of the show. You finished it?

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Speaker 3: I finished it five part series.

1982
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Speaker 1: Two episodes have aired, although if you would like to

1983
01:31:06,479 --> 01:31:09,720
Speaker 1: go binge it on the app, you can outcry on

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Speaker 1: Showtime Sundays, ten pm Eastern Time.

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Speaker 3: So you just finished it?

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Speaker 1: What did you, Mike?

1987
01:31:15,640 --> 01:31:17,840
Speaker 3: Did I oversell that? That was a really good show?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 4: And look, we know we will support the people who

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Speaker 4: pay us and publicized stuff. But will we go above

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Speaker 4: and beyond?

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01:31:25,640 --> 01:31:25,840
Speaker 1: Luke?

1993
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Speaker 3: Will we?

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Speaker 1: Will?

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Speaker 2: We?

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Speaker 1: Really?

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Speaker 4: I'll go above and beyond for this one. This is

1998
01:31:29,240 --> 01:31:33,519
Speaker 4: freaking fantastic compelling his shit. Obviously, it's a real story,

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Speaker 4: so that adds a lot of elements to it. There

2000
01:31:35,479 --> 01:31:37,760
Speaker 4: are so many twists and turns that you just you know,

2001
01:31:38,040 --> 01:31:40,360
Speaker 4: you don't see him coming. And I think the film

2002
01:31:40,360 --> 01:31:44,400
Speaker 4: doesn't incredit the series does an incredible job at leaving

2003
01:31:44,439 --> 01:31:46,519
Speaker 4: you to be the judge throughout most of it. You know,

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01:31:46,600 --> 01:31:48,320
Speaker 4: there's a lot of moments where you question what you

2005
01:31:48,400 --> 01:31:50,760
Speaker 4: believe coming in and then it changes and all that,

2006
01:31:50,880 --> 01:31:54,920
Speaker 4: and that's the sign of great documentariism. But I think

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01:31:55,000 --> 01:31:58,960
Speaker 4: just overall, the real story, you know, after it's done airing, Luke,

2008
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Speaker 4: I'd like to do, you know, a breakdown with you,

2009
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Speaker 4: because there's a lot of unanswered questions at the end

2010
01:32:02,720 --> 01:32:04,759
Speaker 4: of that film that are very interesting.

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Speaker 1: I'll say this, who did you find to be the

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01:32:07,320 --> 01:32:10,599
Speaker 1: most impressed I'm gonna leave it open ended. Who did

2013
01:32:10,640 --> 01:32:12,559
Speaker 1: you find once the series was over, to be the

2014
01:32:12,560 --> 01:32:17,080
Speaker 1: most impressive person in terms of ability or character not named?

2015
01:32:17,360 --> 01:32:19,120
Speaker 1: Maybe you think it's Greg. Let's let's take him out

2016
01:32:19,120 --> 01:32:20,080
Speaker 1: of the equation from all.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because Greg, because Greg's character is incredible. Well, the lawyer,

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01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:30,000
Speaker 4: Greg's lawyer, the southern fella. That guy's like, I'll look, Luke.

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Speaker 1: If I ever got the first lawyer the second lawyer.

2020
01:32:33,080 --> 01:32:36,639
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, first lawyer's got some some skeletons.

2021
01:32:36,720 --> 01:32:39,519
Speaker 4: Yeah that the second lawyer is a fricking genius. He's

2022
01:32:39,520 --> 01:32:40,120
Speaker 4: and he's.

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Speaker 1: Well, the girlfriend is the right So the second lawyer

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Speaker 1: or the girlfriend slash. I don't want to give it

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01:32:47,439 --> 01:32:51,240
Speaker 1: away significant others what I'll leave it as her level

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01:32:51,280 --> 01:32:55,240
Speaker 1: of commitment. Dude, that's a she is down for the cause. Man.

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Speaker 4: There are plenty of heroes and villains in this film,

2028
01:32:58,160 --> 01:33:00,679
Speaker 4: and the best part is you never really know who's

2029
01:33:00,720 --> 01:33:03,000
Speaker 4: whitch for for good stretches of it. Even that guy.

2030
01:33:03,160 --> 01:33:05,960
Speaker 4: Another hero is that advocate and I was waiting for

2031
01:33:06,040 --> 01:33:07,840
Speaker 4: him to turn at some point too, you know.

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Speaker 1: He seemed a little too much of a busybody. I

2033
01:33:09,960 --> 01:33:15,200
Speaker 1: will say that the new District Attorney was another guy

2034
01:33:15,240 --> 01:33:17,639
Speaker 1: who I was like, you know what, yeah, I can

2035
01:33:17,800 --> 01:33:18,720
Speaker 1: I can trust this guy.

2036
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Speaker 4: The Texas Ranger too, I mean he's he's the least

2037
01:33:21,800 --> 01:33:24,559
Speaker 4: trustworthy Texas Rangers since Josh Hamilton at a party.

2038
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Speaker 1: You know. With that in mind, BC, we have to

2039
01:33:27,600 --> 01:33:27,960
Speaker 1: get going.

2040
01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:30,280
Speaker 4: Well, hold on, hold on, hold on. Gabrie kind of

2041
01:33:30,320 --> 01:33:31,680
Speaker 4: sneaky hot too. I don't know if we're allowed to

2042
01:33:31,680 --> 01:33:32,439
Speaker 4: say that a loud but.

2043
01:33:32,520 --> 01:33:35,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, not my type, you know me. I like

2044
01:33:35,120 --> 01:33:37,080
Speaker 1: it when they speak foreign languages and throw drinks in

2045
01:33:37,120 --> 01:33:37,519
Speaker 1: my face.

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01:33:37,720 --> 01:33:39,960
Speaker 4: So and be and beat people up at bus stops,

2047
01:33:39,960 --> 01:33:40,280
Speaker 4: got it?

2048
01:33:40,600 --> 01:33:42,519
Speaker 1: Yes, So you can't hammer fist with a purse. I

2049
01:33:42,520 --> 01:33:43,280
Speaker 1: don't know what you can do.

2050
01:33:43,640 --> 01:33:45,920
Speaker 4: Ja we get third world on my ass? Yes, I

2051
01:33:45,960 --> 01:33:46,200
Speaker 4: got you.

2052
01:33:46,400 --> 01:33:48,200
Speaker 1: It's such a great clot, dude, I'll never forget it.

2053
01:33:48,840 --> 01:33:50,760
Speaker 1: With that in mind, if you want some merch from

2054
01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:52,880
Speaker 1: the MK store, and why wouldn't, you can go to

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Speaker 1: store dot show s h O dot com.

2056
01:33:56,080 --> 01:33:57,519
Speaker 3: Plenty of MK merch up there.

2057
01:33:57,680 --> 01:34:05,080
Speaker 1: Hoodies, sweatshirts, hats, tumblers. We should get flasks, we should

2058
01:34:05,080 --> 01:34:09,120
Speaker 1: get shot glasses. You know something that Ronnie Deutsch could use,

2059
01:34:09,160 --> 01:34:10,080
Speaker 1: b C. What do you think?

2060
01:34:10,320 --> 01:34:12,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, we should. You and I should commander a meeting

2061
01:34:12,880 --> 01:34:14,120
Speaker 4: with the people that run this place.

2062
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Speaker 1: I think.

2063
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Speaker 4: I think Merch Launch two point zero is going to

2064
01:34:16,439 --> 01:34:18,120
Speaker 4: be even better. And the first one was great, by

2065
01:34:18,160 --> 01:34:20,479
Speaker 4: the way, love the callers, love the feel. Everything fits

2066
01:34:20,520 --> 01:34:23,080
Speaker 4: great too, So I'm fired up about that. I'm not

2067
01:34:23,120 --> 01:34:25,280
Speaker 4: looking for MK condoms or anything weird like that. All right,

2068
01:34:25,320 --> 01:34:27,680
Speaker 4: Joe Zota can sell his own stuff like that. But

2069
01:34:28,160 --> 01:34:29,920
Speaker 4: let's let's step up our game a little. It's gonna

2070
01:34:29,920 --> 01:34:30,360
Speaker 4: be fantastic.

2071
01:34:30,400 --> 01:34:31,840
Speaker 1: Little creativity would be nice.

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Speaker 4: I would like a sweatshirt that says it's Monday on

2073
01:34:35,120 --> 01:34:37,400
Speaker 4: the arm okay, you know, and says be it as

2074
01:34:37,400 --> 01:34:40,519
Speaker 4: it may over here whatever. Luke's other catchphrases are, you know.

2075
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Speaker 1: My catchphrases are like, yeah, be that as it may

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01:34:43,760 --> 01:34:46,000
Speaker 1: or in any event is another one? I olvious say

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Speaker 1: if I might be C, if I might be C.

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01:34:48,960 --> 01:34:52,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, if I'm sure that says b C five thousand

2079
01:34:52,240 --> 01:34:53,720
Speaker 4: times on it, that would be a good Luke shirt.

2080
01:34:53,760 --> 01:34:56,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you would like to take a look at

2081
01:34:56,280 --> 01:34:59,559
Speaker 1: outcry and try Showtime for free, very easy to do.

2082
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Speaker 1: Just go to showtime dot com. You can get a

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Speaker 1: thirty day free trial. If you like it, you can

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Speaker 1: keep it. If not, you can bounce. And then, last,

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Speaker 1: but not least, Ladies and gentlemen, if you want to

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Speaker 1: of content coming your way this week. We do that

2092
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Speaker 1: every week, but in particular BC this week. I think

2093
01:35:25,720 --> 01:35:27,840
Speaker 1: we're coming back for a Thursday show.

2094
01:35:27,960 --> 01:35:30,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, we got to recast. We've got some NK extra

2095
01:35:30,400 --> 01:35:33,280
Speaker 4: come in people's way, all right, all right, And if

2096
01:35:33,280 --> 01:35:35,639
Speaker 4: you want to remind people that they need to get

2097
01:35:35,680 --> 01:35:39,559
Speaker 4: on board now because pretty soon all around the world,

2098
01:35:39,720 --> 01:35:42,639
Speaker 4: statues will be crumbling for me, right and we'll we'll

2099
01:35:42,640 --> 01:35:45,599
Speaker 4: remember who knows how long that you've loved us, So

2100
01:35:45,760 --> 01:35:48,519
Speaker 4: get on board now. And because I just want to fly,

2101
01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:49,880
Speaker 4: let's do this thing, all right.

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Speaker 1: If you want to follow us on Twitter or Instagram, individually,

2103
01:35:53,840 --> 01:35:55,360
Speaker 1: you certainly can. We have to get out of here

2104
01:35:55,439 --> 01:35:58,120
Speaker 1: because of course I have another job. We will see

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01:35:58,160 --> 01:36:01,000
Speaker 1: you donks later this week. Thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: watching for Malka, for showtime for Brian Campbell. I'm Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 1: Until next time, may all of your gains be loyal