Speaker 1: Hi guys, this is Teddy Mellencamp and I'm joined by
Speaker 1: my friend Emily Simpson for our new spinoff show Popping Off,
Speaker 1: where we are digging deep on this season of Vanner
Speaker 1: Pump Rules. Hi guys, welcome to another episode of Popping
Speaker 1: Off with myself, Teddy Mellencamp and and Emily Simpson. Thanks
Speaker 1: for joining us. We are excited because we all I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm excited because I don't think I could fall
Speaker 1: asleep for about two hours after I finished watching The Valley.
Speaker 2: I just watched it this morning and then I had
Speaker 2: to I had to get some food and a drink
Speaker 2: and it was your life together. Yeah yeah, yeah, it
Speaker 2: like wore me out. I needed some protein after watching.
Speaker 1: That, Like, nothing makes you feel like you have your
Speaker 1: life together like watching them on the Valley. I was like, Wow,
Speaker 1: I'm really thriving.
Speaker 2: I was like, my relationship with Shane is like ten
Speaker 2: out of ten. After watching this.
Speaker 1: I know it's like a super doozy. But before, I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess this is we're staying on the Valley. But
Speaker 1: before we get into the recaps, let's do some headlines. Okay,
Speaker 1: this first one is everywhere we're seeing it everywhere. We
Speaker 1: saw traces of this months ago when Jax was in
Speaker 1: a picture with his publicist, Brittany Cartwright has unfollowed Jax
Speaker 1: Taylor and their publicist Laurie on Instagram. This came from
Speaker 1: Steph with dadats the Deep dud eats, dud deats. I
Speaker 1: want to be clear in case you want to follow
Speaker 1: Steph with du deats. A Reddit user posted, Jacks is
Speaker 1: in my city and a friend of mine found out
Speaker 1: at a bar he was at and went to to
Speaker 1: get the tea. He said he is for sure single.
Speaker 1: We knew this, but he wanted the whole bar to now.
Speaker 1: He told someone, Yeah, I'm single now, trying not to
Speaker 1: get hurt. I'm playing it safe. Then he did too,
Speaker 1: f his publicist in the bathroom. He also apparently wanted
Speaker 1: to have a chill night, then walked into the bar
Speaker 1: and yelled, who's got a bag for me?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 1: If this is true, it isn't the first time JAXX
Speaker 1: has been caught having sex in a bathroom. But I
Speaker 1: may or may not have gone on to Lori's Facebook
Speaker 1: to do a littel I mean for me to have
Speaker 1: to go did Facebook?
Speaker 3: Does she not have an Instagram.
Speaker 1: It was smaller things for me to see.
Speaker 2: So I was like, I need to get to where
Speaker 2: the you need to go to where the middle aged
Speaker 2: women go.
Speaker 1: I need to go where my people like to be.
Speaker 1: And that's that's Facebook. She's what I've seen as she's
Speaker 1: married with twin boys. I don't know if that marriage
Speaker 1: is no longer happening or if it was not happening prior.
Speaker 1: But what I can say about this if you are
Speaker 1: Jax Taylor's publicist and you have repped him all these
Speaker 1: years and you want to bone him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what is wrong with you?
Speaker 1: I have concerns for this professional. Like your job, and
Speaker 1: especially as a publicist, your job is to organize the press,
Speaker 1: and I can look good press, not big press. We're
Speaker 1: in the press, now you and now in not a
Speaker 1: shocking turn of events.
Speaker 2: Well maybe she goes all out for her client. She's like, look, Jax,
Speaker 2: you haven't been getting a lot of press lately. No
Speaker 2: one's really interested in you anymore.
Speaker 1: So how about this? Do you think this was all
Speaker 1: a ploy to sell more hair loss products?
Speaker 2: I don't know how that relates to her lost product,
Speaker 2: but if someone told him that would work, I'm sure
Speaker 2: he jump on it.
Speaker 1: There's one photo in particular where like, say, this is
Speaker 1: Jax right here, this is Jack's head, and this is
Speaker 1: the publicist. And they thought that was a good idea
Speaker 1: of a picture to post.
Speaker 3: No, that was not a good idea. Yeah, that picture
Speaker 3: is creepy.
Speaker 2: And now it's even more cringe knowing that they're actually like,
Speaker 2: I guess whatever they are?
Speaker 3: What are they?
Speaker 2: How do you define that?
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. By the sound of it,
Speaker 1: it seems like they're pretty open about where they are.
Speaker 1: Brittany now has probably had to find herself a new publicist.
Speaker 1: But the thing that also makes this all very ancestual
Speaker 1: is that most of the vander Pump rules and the
Speaker 1: Valley people all share these publicists. They all kind of
Speaker 1: came up together, and Lori reps a lot of those people.
Speaker 1: She also reps Luanne.
Speaker 2: Oh well, she gets around, she gets around.
Speaker 1: But I have a question, if you were then in
Speaker 1: search of a publicist for you and Shane, pretend Shane
Speaker 1: wanted one as well.
Speaker 2: So you're gonna have to pretend really hard.
Speaker 1: Would you want to hire someone that has already made
Speaker 1: out publicly with their client. I trust her to do
Speaker 1: what's right.
Speaker 2: No, I mean she's banging her client so allegedly, So
Speaker 2: I mean not that, like I would wouldn't trust Shane
Speaker 2: at all. I could. I would trust Carmen Electra being
Speaker 2: my publicist. That's how much I trust Shane. So I
Speaker 2: mean me personally, I just wouldn't want someone I wouldn't
Speaker 2: consider her a professional at that point, she's.
Speaker 3: Two in the mix. She's not you know, she's not
Speaker 3: doing well.
Speaker 2: I mean she's going all out for her job, but
Speaker 2: like in all the wrong ways.
Speaker 1: And also I thought my Google images was like off
Speaker 1: because when I also wanted to like google multiple photos
Speaker 1: of Lorie so I could really get invested. There's like
Speaker 1: a similarity between the two gaps between her and Brittany. Yes,
Speaker 1: like there's a it's a like I was like, hold on,
Speaker 1: like I had to research, and there's all these by
Speaker 1: sides of the two girls. Like I'm like, none of
Speaker 1: this is tracking none, None of this is tracking to me.
Speaker 1: I feel like he's my guess, is he out to
Speaker 1: try to make Brittany feel like shit because we've seen
Speaker 1: all these other reports that she was the breadwinner and
Speaker 1: he couldn't take it. I'm guessing from the weight Watchers money.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: But so you're saying this was like a premeditated type
Speaker 2: of thing to get back of her, like a revenge thing.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, in the history of when men cheat,
Speaker 1: most of the time, it's because they're feeling inferior. And oh,
Speaker 1: it wasn't whit WeightWatchers.
Speaker 3: It was Jenny Craig.
Speaker 1: Sorry, sorry, why Watchers I met Jenny Craig. I got
Speaker 1: the wrong slogan, But I feel like he may be
Speaker 1: doing that. I don't know. I just don't know why
Speaker 1: you would do it in such a public way.
Speaker 2: I don't know. But it's really hard to watch the
Speaker 2: episodes and hear them talk about their relationship knowing what
Speaker 2: we know now, Like do you like I want to
Speaker 2: throw stuff at the screen, But also.
Speaker 1: What a hypocrite like it? We're all hypocrites to some extent,
Speaker 1: but like, you can't go that hard for somebody else
Speaker 1: that has an affair when now we're watching you in
Speaker 1: real time and it's playing out on vander Pump Rules
Speaker 1: and on the Valley. This has been kind of a
Speaker 1: brilliant crossover because they're.
Speaker 2: Both really has I get confused about which scene came
Speaker 2: from which show.
Speaker 3: I'm like, wait, was that the Valley or was that Vanderbump?
Speaker 1: I know because it's completely immersed now, which is yeah,
Speaker 1: what was the word that Jax didn't know what? It was? Superfluous,
Speaker 1: which is so superfluous I'm just gonna start using it
Speaker 1: unnecessarily throughout.
Speaker 3: He was like super fluous.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, Jacks, you might need to go
Speaker 1: back to acting class. But yeah, it's definitely been a lot.
Speaker 1: I feel my heart goes out to Brittany because I
Speaker 1: do think we're is a nice human being.
Speaker 3: I think so too.
Speaker 2: I really like her, and you know what, she's been
Speaker 2: his writer die from day one. She always is taking
Speaker 2: up for him, and that's hard to find. Even when
Speaker 2: he's wrong, she still, you know, tries to make excuses
Speaker 2: for him.
Speaker 3: She gets in there.
Speaker 2: I've been watching Have you watched The Jackson Brittany Take Kentucky?
Speaker 2: Like that's on Peacock right now. No, yes, there's like
Speaker 2: six episodes. So I was watching that and he goes
Speaker 2: home to Kentucky with her and she's like, I don't know.
Speaker 2: She has this good, wholesome family from Kentucky and I
Speaker 2: don't know, Brittany, I feel badly for you, so you know,
Speaker 2: if you want to come on the podcast and talk
Speaker 2: about how badly you feel.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're here for you and we've got your back.
Speaker 1: I mean, how do you even get an interview with
Speaker 1: Jax now? Because Laurie is the publicist that you reach.
Speaker 3: Out to, so she's like, no comments, no comments.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna have to wait a little bit to
Speaker 1: do press. No shit, And are you going to be
Speaker 1: in there? Are we gonna ask you questions too? Or
Speaker 1: are you just gonna let us take your client on
Speaker 1: your own and then you'll get them in the bathroom later?
Speaker 1: Like it's bananas. He does like the bathroom sex, he does,
Speaker 1: do you?
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever had sex in a bath
Speaker 2: well yeah, okay, like a shower.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean I've had sex in one public bathroom with Edwin.
Speaker 2: But not a public bathroom like my own bathroom, like
Speaker 2: where I live in my home.
Speaker 1: Now. I have had one at the in a public bathroom.
Speaker 1: But you want to hear the creepy part. I don't know,
Speaker 1: do I It was at the laundry on where the
Speaker 1: party was. Oh but million years ago we were like
Speaker 1: at an appropriate not that it's ever appropriate to have
Speaker 1: public sex. But like we were at the age where
Speaker 1: like you hear those types of things and you're like, okay,
Speaker 1: but we had to remember these people are our age.
Speaker 3: They are our age, well your age. I'm a little
Speaker 3: I'm slightly older.
Speaker 1: I mean everyone knows that.
Speaker 3: I know. Thank you.
Speaker 1: But we'll get into it more after. But let's get
Speaker 1: into Joe going to Instagram Live to answer some questions
Speaker 1: about Schwartz.
Speaker 2: One fan ass did you ever suck off Schwartz, to
Speaker 2: which her friend who was with her during the IG
Speaker 2: live answered while they were in a relationship, and Joe continued, Yeah,
Speaker 2: of course I did. He was really good at sex.
Speaker 2: Another fan asked, do you think Schwartz is your other half?
Speaker 2: And she said, yes, I do, but I think it's
Speaker 2: going to take some time. Her friend added, yeah, you
Speaker 2: have said that for a long time. Then Joe makes
Speaker 2: weird Joe noises. You want to break that down?
Speaker 1: Well, I think okay. Joe did not come off as
Speaker 1: this demure, nervous individual that we've been seeing on television.
Speaker 1: She came off confident and like, let's go. I am
Speaker 1: ready to you know, be hilarious. And it really just
Speaker 1: to me came off as obnoxious and kind of rude,
Speaker 1: especially because Katie just had her back, Like, remember Katie
Speaker 1: had her back? Yeah, well did she.
Speaker 3: Have her backward?
Speaker 4: Did?
Speaker 3: She does not want to answer.
Speaker 1: I will know, she said, like I was given crumbs,
Speaker 1: so I understand where she's coming from, and blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: But why do you need to bring up their sex
Speaker 1: life because that actually has nothing to do with you
Speaker 1: and him, like he's not even though I wish, I mean,
Speaker 1: I watching them, I like them together, I like, I
Speaker 1: can't help but like Katie and Schwartz dynamic from time
Speaker 1: to time.
Speaker 3: But you don't like Schwartz and Joe. No, you just
Speaker 3: don't like Joe.
Speaker 1: She was going hard with these statements, and I just
Speaker 1: thought it was kind of mean. And she's already done
Speaker 1: the like she posted the thing for Rachel about Rachel
Speaker 1: being better dressed than Katie. Like I'm like, why are
Speaker 1: you going for Katie? This is not kat It's Schwartz
Speaker 1: that is deciding he doesn't want to be with you.
Speaker 1: It's not Katie. Right, Clearly Katie doesn't want to hook
Speaker 1: up with you. She wants to look up with someone.
Speaker 2: She's clearly delusional, though, because she just she makes it
Speaker 2: like it sounds like she just needs some time before
Speaker 2: Schwartz comes around, like he's gonna come to her at
Speaker 2: some point. Well not with all these Instagram lives. I mean,
Speaker 2: Instagram lives are never a good idea.
Speaker 1: This next one is The Valley's Michelle Lally, is seemingly
Speaker 1: dating Aaron Nosler after Jesse split. During her Instagram Q
Speaker 1: and A, Michelle confirmed she was in a new relationship,
Speaker 1: writing She's with someone amazing, but she didn't want to
Speaker 1: reveal his identity, saying I like our little privacy for
Speaker 1: the moment. Michelle noted in a separate post that she
Speaker 1: officially moved out of her house with Jesse. She also
Speaker 1: offered an update on whether there was a chance they
Speaker 1: could reconcile. No, my only goal is to be friends
Speaker 1: one day, she replied, before addressing the joint real estate business. Yes,
Speaker 1: we will continue working together with past clients. I think
Speaker 1: that's key past clients, but moving forward, I will have
Speaker 1: my own clients and vice versa versa. According to Michelle,
Speaker 1: their daughter's adjusting while to the split, adding Isabella is incredible.
Speaker 1: It's been a great transition for her. She liked the
Speaker 1: idea of having two homes, two different beds and toys.
Speaker 1: There's been a positive change. Shall also addressed rumors that
Speaker 1: she cheated on Jesse. She slammed the insinuation that she
Speaker 1: was unfaithful with the director, writing via her Instagram, absolutely not.
Speaker 1: Part of my job as a real estate agent is
Speaker 1: to network and build relationships. It had absolutely nothing to
Speaker 1: do with dating anyone.
Speaker 3: Well that's not what other people seem to think.
Speaker 1: But I mean, on watch what happens, Like Janet said,
Speaker 1: the director Michelle was hanging out with was just a client.
Speaker 1: She was trying to sell his house. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, do we believe do we believe Janet and
Speaker 1: do we believe Michelle? Like do we trust either of them?
Speaker 2: I don't know, because Kristen seems that well, I mean,
Speaker 2: we're going to get into the valley, But clearly she
Speaker 2: made it as if it was a relationship like dating.
Speaker 2: So those are two those are two completely different planets.
Speaker 2: We're talking about are you hanging out with someone because
Speaker 2: you're selling them a house? Or are you dating someone?
Speaker 1: And it could she could have very well been selling
Speaker 1: that guy a house, but doesn't mean she wasn't cheating
Speaker 1: on Jesse with somebody else.
Speaker 3: Clearly, it's that's actually a really good career to cheat, Like,
Speaker 3: if you're gonna cheat like a real estate agent's a
Speaker 3: great career to a real estate agent.
Speaker 1: Or you own a bar or a nightclub with a
Speaker 1: bathroom with yes, with a clean bathroom. Yes with the Entreon.
Speaker 2: I like where she says that she was dating someone amazing,
Speaker 2: but I feel like her threshold for amazing is very
Speaker 2: low after being with Jesse, so like anyone on the
Speaker 2: planet would be amazing at this point.
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I'd love to dog on Jesse, but
Speaker 1: I have to say, after watching last night's episode, something
Speaker 1: something ain't right with Michelle either, something ain't right. I
Speaker 1: feel like it's one of those people that like seems
Speaker 1: super calm, but now we've seen her blow up multiple
Speaker 1: times in a way that I'm like, I'm frightened to
Speaker 1: see what their fights with off camera look like.
Speaker 2: Well, do you remember when we first started recapping it,
Speaker 2: we talked about how she never even opened her mouth
Speaker 2: like the for probably two episodes.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, Well, now I wish she would shut it.
Speaker 2: Now I'm done.
Speaker 1: She's like, I need everyone to listen to me.
Speaker 2: Everyone sit down.
Speaker 1: She's definitely I think was one of those girls that
Speaker 1: always was super hot hat like people were always into her,
Speaker 1: and she is like, I know, I'm gonna play quiet,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be this, but listen, this is howking goes down,
Speaker 1: and you all better listen to me and get in line.
Speaker 3: Or I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just something something is askew. But in positive news?
Speaker 1: Did you see this next one?
Speaker 2: I did?
Speaker 3: I did we get an invite? Not yet?
Speaker 1: Should I should? I d M Katie and ask for one?
Speaker 2: You should? Something about Her Sandwich Shop reveals opening dates.
Speaker 3: It was a is that US Son or is that US?
Speaker 3: I never know.
Speaker 1: I think it's the US Sun because there's a.
Speaker 2: US think Okay. It was last expected to open on
Speaker 2: January fifteenth, twenty twenty four, after ongoing issues with the
Speaker 2: City of West Hollywood and attempting to get permits. Something
Speaker 2: about Her is finally getting ready to open. A source
Speaker 2: exclusively revealed to The US Sun that the Sandwich Shop
Speaker 2: will officially have a grand opening celebration on Wednesday, May
Speaker 2: twenty second, twenty twenty four. Teddy is working on our invites.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe I could offer to make the invites. I'm
Speaker 1: sure Arianna is so excited for the idea of me coming.
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm sure she can't wait.
Speaker 1: Our mutual publicist has not mentioned a thing to me.
Speaker 3: Oh wait, you have to say publicist is Arianna.
Speaker 1: Yeah, one of us is really coming up, and it's
Speaker 1: not me.
Speaker 2: I was very lead. I was like, maybe you should
Speaker 2: get someone else because she seems pretty busy with Arianna.
Speaker 1: I don't think she has a lot of time for you. Well,
Speaker 1: good news is our publicist is not having sex with
Speaker 1: me or Ariana.
Speaker 2: I can confirm, or Edwin or Edwin. Now, Okay, good.
Speaker 1: Susan. If you're listening to this, I love you.
Speaker 3: She's not listening to you.
Speaker 2: Sorry, she's got.
Speaker 1: Bigger fish to fry. The next one is Ali Luber
Speaker 1: debuted the music video for her song Girls Girl on
Speaker 1: April twelfth. This is in a Variety article This is
Speaker 1: big Time. Ali talked about the music video, saying, we
Speaker 1: filmed the music video in one day, and Joshua's Tree
Speaker 1: and Sheena came after. We filmed the reunion the day before,
Speaker 1: which was like the longest day ever for them, not
Speaker 1: for me. I wasn't in all of the reunion. I
Speaker 1: was like, she and I totally understand. You don't have
Speaker 1: to come. She's like, of course I'm coming. She always
Speaker 1: shows up. She is a girl's girl, no matter what
Speaker 1: people say about her, at least from my experience, she
Speaker 1: has always been there for me and has been a
Speaker 1: true friend from the beginning. She has always been nothing
Speaker 1: but nice to me as well and me as well.
Speaker 1: And I actually I watched that little clip of her
Speaker 1: in the what was the Lopez that sitcom? Oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: Lopez versus Lopez.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that looks so look fun. I was like, good
Speaker 2: for you. I said, that's better good dancing with the stars.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think it pays the same, no.
Speaker 2: But like dancing with the stars, you could just like
Speaker 2: you could put all that effort in. Then you just
Speaker 2: get voted off the first week.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I thought that not if you're good, good people tend
Speaker 1: to stay.
Speaker 2: I would stay. If they put me on, I would say,
Speaker 2: I would be so damn good.
Speaker 1: I want to say, I'm going to need you to
Speaker 1: get up and do a little dance right now, and
Speaker 1: then I'll do right now, maybe later, but after some espresso, Martinez,
Speaker 1: I need two to three, okay. Then Mariana was at
Speaker 1: the La Times Festival of Books, probably with Susan and
Speaker 1: Reddit user Lucky Duckling eighty nine eighty nine recapped it.
Speaker 1: Arianna said that vander Pump Rules and reality TV in
Speaker 1: general always give all sides to a situation. She was
Speaker 1: prepared for redemption arc because it's the nature of storytelling,
Speaker 1: but she thinks stand Ofal isn't contributing to his own redemption.
Speaker 1: Ariana thought this season went differently with the girls during filming.
Speaker 1: Watching it back, she's I thought we were like the
Speaker 1: Spice Girls, but no. She also joked about perceived as
Speaker 1: the villain on the show right now, seemingly not mad
Speaker 1: about it, or maybe she was just prepared for it.
Speaker 1: Ariana talked about the timing of season eleven so quickly
Speaker 1: after season ten reunion. We saw her at her messiest
Speaker 1: this season because she was in fight or flight mode.
Speaker 1: She freezes when dealing with trauma, so she's been hiding
Speaker 1: out in her room with all her boxes and belongings
Speaker 1: because she's hunkering down and freezing up after everything happened.
Speaker 2: I don't really feel like she froze up. I mean,
Speaker 2: she seemed pretty angry to me in a lot of
Speaker 2: the episodes. She didn't seem angry this episode though, No,
Speaker 2: not this one. I thought I felt like she was
Speaker 2: calm and just kind of taking everything in stride this episode.
Speaker 1: But I think she really likes the boyfriend and he
Speaker 1: seems to be kind of calming. And also even when
Speaker 1: she was talking about her mess that she lives in
Speaker 1: and she was like, I might need your help organizing,
Speaker 1: he's like, I'm gonna need more than a day for that. Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I appreciated their banter. I'm excited to see more of
Speaker 1: him them and their their relationship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it hasn't It hasn't been very much. I mean,
Speaker 2: just some FaceTime calls everyone once in a while.
Speaker 1: But I think we will. I'm guessing we're going to
Speaker 1: see a softer side to her because she's I think
Speaker 1: it looks like she's like let her guard down with him.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Okay, So when she makes the reference to the Spice
Speaker 2: Girls and she's saying she just thought they got along
Speaker 2: all season, and now when she watches it back, she
Speaker 2: sees people saying things that she didn't think they thought
Speaker 2: that way. Is that the way you interpreted?
Speaker 1: Yeah, the way I looked at it was like I
Speaker 1: thought we were this team and we were all working
Speaker 1: together and we all but clearly I was wrong and
Speaker 1: in the confessionals people took me to you know, went
Speaker 1: for me. But I do think she's come back around.
Speaker 1: She didn't. I liked her a lot. This episode, I'm
Speaker 1: disliking Sandoval mores. So we continue mission accomplished, Ariana. You
Speaker 1: succeeded in the end.
Speaker 3: Again, how many episodes are left?
Speaker 1: Though? One episode thirteen? Did I make up that there's eighteen?
Speaker 1: I don't know, right, I'm not one hundred percent sure,
Speaker 1: So I guess we have to keep going.
Speaker 2: So we'll just estimate that maybe that Santaval has like
Speaker 2: five episodes to get a shit together and be likable.
Speaker 1: Well, considering he's been doing press since the season aired
Speaker 1: and has not been doing so, I'm not thinking that
Speaker 1: is going to happen.
Speaker 3: Who's his publicist? It's not Susan, is it.
Speaker 1: It's not Sue. It's definitely not Susan. Definitely not, definitely
Speaker 1: not Sue. Okay, so let's take a little break. We'll
Speaker 1: come back and we will recap episode thirteen. Okay, So
Speaker 1: we are back, and it starts with Jacks. Jacks Hi
Speaker 1: Jack shows up at James and Alley's house. Jackson James
Speaker 1: have come a long way. They used to hate each
Speaker 1: other and now they're hosting brunch at Sir together. Jack's
Speaker 1: is pissed because Katie is telling everyone he cheated on Brittany.
Speaker 1: Pretty much, Katie seems to be right about the majority
Speaker 1: of it.
Speaker 2: I know she really is. I'm like, she kind of
Speaker 2: just hits the nail on the head, you know, she
Speaker 2: doesn't like she doesn't you know, she just gets right
Speaker 2: in there and just says it.
Speaker 1: And I trust her, regardless of if sometimes it's like
Speaker 1: hard for me to read her. I do trust her
Speaker 1: when she says something. I don't think she's full of shit.
Speaker 2: No, I don't either, because I think she thinks about
Speaker 2: what she's going to say. I think I think she's analytical.
Speaker 2: She thinks about it, and then she she says things
Speaker 2: with conviction.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because we could feel that even in our interview
Speaker 1: with her, there's a pause. It's almost awkward, but there's
Speaker 1: a pause right before, almost almost like we had to
Speaker 1: recap how awkward we were at times. But it's because
Speaker 1: I think she is deciding what she wants to say.
Speaker 1: She doesn't want to say things she regrets right, and
Speaker 1: I don't feel like I don't know. I don't think
Speaker 1: she would have inserted herself if it wasn't true. Agreed,
Speaker 1: But then Ali asking Jax if he's actually best friends
Speaker 1: with Katie, Like, Alie, I love you, but we know
Speaker 1: you've watched the show. We know you're not learning this
Speaker 1: ship for the first time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that playing dumb doesn't work with us.
Speaker 2: Are you guys friends?
Speaker 1: Do you know have you heard of this gun? It's
Speaker 1: Katie Maloney?
Speaker 2: Have you got her before?
Speaker 1: What's your history? Do you know anyone named Stass? Because
Speaker 1: that was another Jack's rant about Katie and why Katie's
Speaker 1: so upset at, you know, at Brittany, because Brittany and
Speaker 1: Jacks didn't go to Stasi's wedding. I'm like all of this,
Speaker 1: it's just I don't think they were upset that they
Speaker 1: didn't go to the wedding. They were upset that they
Speaker 1: didn't say they weren't going until the very last minute,
Speaker 1: and with.
Speaker 2: Weddings like, that's a big deal.
Speaker 1: I knew I couldn't go, so I immediately RSVP'd I
Speaker 1: can't go, right, Like, That's that's how you do things,
Speaker 1: especially when you're friends.
Speaker 2: Exactly. That's how you do it.
Speaker 1: That's how you do it. That's why people send invites
Speaker 1: formal ones. Then Brittany visits Sheena at her house. Brittany
Speaker 1: and Jacks were apparently trying for a second baby. Shena
Speaker 1: and Brock are having some issues lately.
Speaker 2: Wait are they having sex? Are they not having sex?
Speaker 2: Because if they're trying for a second baby, then they're
Speaker 2: having sex.
Speaker 1: No, I think they're talking about trying to sex.
Speaker 2: That is a lot of steps to get to a
Speaker 2: second child, Like step one, talk about second child, Step
Speaker 2: two talk about trying.
Speaker 3: For a second child.
Speaker 1: Step three have sex. Yeah, it's hard because at this
Speaker 1: point you feel like Brittany might be fibbing because we're
Speaker 1: on the same timeline in the vow, so we know
Speaker 1: she's not having sex.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm Yeah, that's what I'm like.
Speaker 2: It's like she's lying talking about how they're trying for
Speaker 2: a second baby, but we see her on the valley
Speaker 2: talking about how they haven't had sex for six weeks,
Speaker 2: which is probably longer than six weeks. I think six
Speaker 2: weeks down sounds like the standard answer when you haven't
Speaker 2: had sex for like a year.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's not about six weeks.
Speaker 1: But no, we do know that this is the same
Speaker 1: timeframe because Schwartz has blonde hair in both episodes. That's right,
Speaker 1: so we are able to match it by schwartz hair mistake.
Speaker 2: That is some very good detective work. Brock is at
Speaker 2: coffee with his friend. Brock thinks the tension between him
Speaker 2: and Sena comes from the fact that Sina doesn't trust
Speaker 2: anyone to watch Summer Moon. Brock struggles with the fact
Speaker 2: that he isn't the breadwinner Shena is. He wants a
Speaker 2: career that will better himself and his life. You know,
Speaker 2: I actually appreciate how much he opens up about things
Speaker 2: during the scene because I don't think that men typically
Speaker 2: like to talk about.
Speaker 3: Things like that.
Speaker 2: They don't.
Speaker 3: I mean, Shaye, I.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say when Shane when it became a
Speaker 1: storyline that Shane hadn't passed the bar, Yeah, I assume
Speaker 1: Shane wasn't in the best mental headspace.
Speaker 2: No, and he didn't want to talk about it either.
Speaker 2: It was that was a real struggle for me the
Speaker 2: first two seasons of the show was being in a
Speaker 2: position where producers are saying, this is your life. You
Speaker 2: have to be open. You have to talk about it,
Speaker 2: and my husband saying I don't want to talk about it.
Speaker 3: I have to have boundaries. You need to respect my boundaries.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, and then it adds more attention because you're
Speaker 1: not respecting the boundaries because you're trying to do your job,
Speaker 1: but you also love your husband.
Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah, So, I mean, I appreciate him opening
Speaker 2: up about something that's real and talking about how I'm
Speaker 2: sure he feels inadequate that she's the breadwinner. I'm sure
Speaker 2: he wants to be able to support his family.
Speaker 1: A lot of this was about financial stuff because Brittany
Speaker 1: then shares that she went through a similar problem and
Speaker 1: she was making more money than him, and that manly
Speaker 1: men like to be breadwinners, so she was making more
Speaker 1: money than he and it caused tension. I want to
Speaker 1: be very clear, if I get to the point where
Speaker 1: I can be making more money than Edwin, he would
Speaker 1: be around.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was gonna say, I think Shane's a manly
Speaker 2: man like I do find him to be like manly.
Speaker 2: But Shane, if I no matter how much money I make,
Speaker 2: He's never gonna like have a problem with that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I no.
Speaker 2: Like He sets up the podcast for me, He's like, here, here,
Speaker 2: here's your mic, everything's ready, Like he is very.
Speaker 3: Supportive of me making as much money as possible.
Speaker 1: I think if any human being, male or female, is
Speaker 1: confident and feeling good about themselves and like they're able
Speaker 1: to put themselves in a situation where they are working
Speaker 1: hard towards a goala and they are being paid for it,
Speaker 1: their significant others should be proud exactly.
Speaker 2: And then you know what if he picks up the
Speaker 2: slack or that if he's taking care of the child
Speaker 2: while she's filming and she's doing all her whatever her
Speaker 2: things are that she has going on, then that's how
Speaker 2: she has the time to be able to do that
Speaker 2: because he's with a daughter.
Speaker 1: Right But he's he's contributing for sure, because if it
Speaker 1: was role reversal, there wouldn't be as much discussion about it.
Speaker 1: But I do know that as a mother, when I
Speaker 1: just had my first two little ones and I wasn't
Speaker 1: I didn't have a job where I was being paid money,
Speaker 1: I felt a similar way to the way Brock's feeling.
Speaker 2: So you always feel like you have to bring an
Speaker 2: income in order to contribute.
Speaker 1: No, I always felt like I needed to bring in
Speaker 1: money so that I had my own self worth. You know.
Speaker 2: I like that. I agree with that too, because for me,
Speaker 2: it's a balance of power. Yeah, and it's not that
Speaker 2: it's not that Shane ever held it over my head
Speaker 2: or anything like that, Like he clearly has more money
Speaker 2: than I do. But I mean he.
Speaker 3: Because they have who he is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like we see it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But but for me, it's never like Shane's ever been
Speaker 2: like you have to contribute this much, you have to work,
Speaker 2: you have to do these things. He's never said that
Speaker 2: or made me feel that way. But I agree with you.
Speaker 2: I feel that way because for me, it's like a
Speaker 2: balance of power. I feel like I'm contributing. I feel
Speaker 2: like I don't have to ask his permission to do things.
Speaker 2: I just buy whatever I want. If I want a
Speaker 2: new car, I go buy a new car. I don't
Speaker 2: ask him permission. And I like that feeling like that.
Speaker 1: I like that feeling of being empowered to do whatever
Speaker 1: it is that I want to do, whether it's for
Speaker 1: our kids, for myself, a friend, a business venture. I
Speaker 1: don't want my husband to be in charge of what
Speaker 1: my moves will be, whether he wanted to be in
Speaker 1: charge or not. I put that pressure on myself, so
Speaker 1: I appreciate. I mean, Edwin's not every month like Teddy,
Speaker 1: where's the money you made? Like that doesn't happen. We're
Speaker 1: separate accounts. But like I need to feel like I
Speaker 1: can do that, so I see where both of them
Speaker 1: are struggling. Also, to have sheen aside for a second,
Speaker 1: She's probably like, well, if you're going to do something,
Speaker 1: get up and do it right.
Speaker 2: I don't just sit around and talk about how you're
Speaker 2: not contributing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like for years into this thing, Like what are
Speaker 1: you gonna do?
Speaker 3: Like, what's the plan?
Speaker 1: Like I need a plan. I'm willing to find a
Speaker 1: babysitter and pay the because remember she's gonna have to
Speaker 1: pay the babysitter. I'm willing to pay the babysitter if
Speaker 1: you come to me with a concrete plan and this
Speaker 1: is what you want. But I haven't heard him say
Speaker 1: what he actually wants to do. He doesn't actually seem
Speaker 1: like he knows what he wants to do.
Speaker 3: He's hoping for a full time role.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I don't know. And I also think she
Speaker 1: maybe wants to make sure that he is the father
Speaker 1: she wants him to be and not turn into the
Speaker 1: father that he is to the other kids.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so she keeps him right here because also.
Speaker 1: The jealousy conversation, like even about the law law thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I see, I didn't picture her being insecure about
Speaker 2: her relationships. So that was new for me about how
Speaker 2: she hasn't true some thoughts about Brock leaving her for
Speaker 2: an nanny. Well, first of all, don't hire a hot nanny.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's one one on one.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then even listening to rumors about Brock and
Speaker 2: laha lah like she's got her she's got it all
Speaker 2: in her head and she's got some anxiety about that.
Speaker 1: And I don't know, I think it might be the
Speaker 1: shows she's on. Yeah maybe, I mean that could be it,
Speaker 1: but I do I hope they figure it out because
Speaker 1: the date was a little rough because you know, all
Speaker 1: she wanted to do was blog, remember the whole thing,
Speaker 1: Like when the Sparklers came out, She's like, he's just
Speaker 1: looking on my phone, right, and then what about did
Speaker 1: you think?
Speaker 2: Oh wait, let me ask you a question about that.
Speaker 2: Because when Shane and I go out, he doesn't like
Speaker 2: me to have my phone. And I remember when we
Speaker 2: were in Vegas. Edwin didn't want you to have your phone.
Speaker 2: Do you remember, m hmm, because you were.
Speaker 3: Like you were like Sina you had the phone. You
Speaker 3: were like all out and he was.
Speaker 2: Like, put the phone away, Teddy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he depends on the circumstance here. I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to I feel bad, ed I love you, but if
Speaker 1: it's something Edwin would want to remember, he wants the
Speaker 1: phone out. So like his birthday the other day, he
Speaker 1: was like okay, yeah, phone blah blah blah. But then
Speaker 1: the second, like the kids were done doing their stuff,
Speaker 1: He's like, okay, now no phones. Yeah, and that I
Speaker 1: mean that I get. I do, and as somebody who
Speaker 1: doesn't have a lot of like pictures or videos of
Speaker 1: their childhood, I love to get videos of those things,
Speaker 1: like regardless if it was for Instagram or not. Like
Speaker 1: I make books, I like to save everything because I
Speaker 1: want my kids to have these memories and I don't
Speaker 1: have a good memory in general, so it helps me
Speaker 1: to see it.
Speaker 3: But let me ask you a question.
Speaker 2: Does he reciprocate and take videos and photos of you
Speaker 2: with kids, because that's where I wish Shane, Like I
Speaker 2: always have my phone, I take videos and photos of
Speaker 2: the kids everything they're doing. They're practices, birthdays, everything, But
Speaker 2: I'm not in any of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah me neither.
Speaker 2: And I wish Shane would just pick up the damn
Speaker 2: phone every once in a while and make video and
Speaker 2: photos of me with my own children.
Speaker 3: I have none. I don't have that.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you've seen the TikTok where the mom's like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just video myself and pretend it was my
Speaker 1: husband and it's like her packing the lunches, and.
Speaker 3: Right, that would be me.
Speaker 1: Yeah no, I.
Speaker 2: Don't, thanks, honey, No, not now.
Speaker 3: I don't look good.
Speaker 1: Don't do it. Hold on, let me put all my makeup.
Speaker 1: Yeah no, that's not happening. I don't ever feel like
Speaker 1: I'm being filmed when I don't want to be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, me neither.
Speaker 1: Katie and Shorts go on a lunch date, not a date.
Speaker 1: They go to lunch together. I loved it, every part
Speaker 1: of it.
Speaker 2: They went to Mels, they had a milkshake, They.
Speaker 1: Had a milkshake. Shorts posed for a picture with Joe
Speaker 1: for their salon Instagram. Katie asks about it, He's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I wanted to promote there and I was like that
Speaker 1: hair is not the way to promote it. Then they
Speaker 1: compare dates with Tory and they text her at the
Speaker 1: same time to see who she responds to. First, that's
Speaker 1: some shit I would do.
Speaker 3: I do stuff like that, Like I was like.
Speaker 1: I would do that. And then Schwartz thinks that this
Speaker 1: whole thing with Tory is his and Katie's love language,
Speaker 1: which it has brought them closer. You see why they
Speaker 1: felt even though do I think they should get back together?
Speaker 1: Clearly no, but you know, I kind of feel like
Speaker 1: they should. I don't know. I feel like he still
Speaker 1: has some growing up to do. I mean, some of
Speaker 1: the bad stuff that he did in the past, Like
Speaker 1: it's hard for me to get over. Yeah, but I
Speaker 1: do think it's letting her. She's able to let her
Speaker 1: guard down with him, and we're able to see why
Speaker 1: they fell in love in the first place.
Speaker 2: Right. Well, it's nice to see them as friends. They
Speaker 2: have a good they have like a fun, quirky friend relationship.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Then Schortz gets a tattoo of his dogs and
Speaker 1: bring Sandoval with him. Would you get a tattoo of
Speaker 1: your dogs? I know you love dogs, but would you
Speaker 1: get a tattoo too?
Speaker 3: Well, I wouldn't get it.
Speaker 1: If you want to tell me you have a tattoo
Speaker 1: of your dogs.
Speaker 3: No, no, I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 1: I mean you're thinking about it.
Speaker 2: No, I used to have a tattoo, but I got
Speaker 2: it removed.
Speaker 1: My gosh. And then Kyle Chan is getting a lot
Speaker 1: of screen time this year his collaboration with the Gold
Speaker 1: Whiskey Bar. They're talking about that they're gonna have Sena
Speaker 1: come perform.
Speaker 2: Two songs, two songs, songs.
Speaker 1: I have a feeling it's gonna be good as Gold
Speaker 1: and as Apple's.
Speaker 2: Yeah, two songs.
Speaker 1: Because her song I enjoy, I enjoy.
Speaker 3: I haven't listened to alli song. You like her song?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the video is not as much, but I
Speaker 1: really did like this. The song like has a good hook.
Speaker 3: Okay, well, I'm gonna have to listen to it now.
Speaker 1: Then Sando All met with the Realders to talk about it.
Speaker 1: Next steps with the house. I mean, what do you
Speaker 1: think the white listing would say, like a hoarder's paradise,
Speaker 1: takeout containers, lego portrait optional, bring your own stage.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly what it would say, hoarders Paradise. I
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like that is not a lot of room.
Speaker 3: To maneuver around, but you know, looks nice from the outside.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you'll figure out, you'll have some perfect for the
Speaker 1: organized person. And then we get into Sir with Jackson
Speaker 1: James for the brunch event. How do you think the
Speaker 1: scene with Lisa went?
Speaker 2: Okay? First of all, are you gonna tell me that
Speaker 2: Lisa had no idea that Jacks was hosting this brunch
Speaker 2: as well? Like, is she really going to come in
Speaker 2: and act like she's surprised about something so that she
Speaker 2: can have a beef with Jack's Like I didn't like
Speaker 2: that part, Like you're gonna tell me you really don't
Speaker 2: know what's going on and you're just completely surprised by it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're because you're also one of the producers on
Speaker 1: the show. And it wasn't like it was just he
Speaker 1: showed up at a party. I'm sure he was compensated
Speaker 1: to be.
Speaker 2: There, right, and his name's like on the flyers or whatever.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, I mean, I don't know, I don't.
Speaker 2: Like that part because to me, that's too like I
Speaker 2: get it, I know how these shows work, but for me,
Speaker 2: that part was just too much acting.
Speaker 3: Like you of course you knew he.
Speaker 1: Was, Yeah, but I also didn't really know what Jacks
Speaker 1: was contributing to this DJ he.
Speaker 2: Showed up late?
Speaker 3: Did he show up late?
Speaker 2: Like everyone's there having brunch and then he walks in
Speaker 2: and he just like says hi to everybody and then
Speaker 2: sits down.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then put headphones on for a second with
Speaker 1: James and then it's done. Yeah. I feel like and
Speaker 1: there are times where Jacks can be funny, but I
Speaker 1: do feel like he's the guy from high school that
Speaker 1: at forty still talks about when he was homecoming king,
Speaker 1: and like he's just still.
Speaker 2: One football play.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like that, remember that time I caught it in
Speaker 1: the insode? So cool. Then the entire group, including jax
Speaker 1: goes to James and Ali's house. After Sir Ali confided
Speaker 1: and Katie about james reluxe and reluctance to let anyone
Speaker 1: watch Hippie besides his brother, James starts to cry. He
Speaker 1: calls Hippy his fur baby and ask everyone with kids
Speaker 1: how long it took them to find a good nanny.
Speaker 1: He compares the two. Jaxon is excited to get job
Speaker 1: with friends Brenny's home. Then Schwortz tells Ariana that he
Speaker 1: and Sandoval talked about living together. Ariana took this quite well.
Speaker 2: I agree. I was totally shocked by this. I thought
Speaker 2: she was just gonna lose her mind, but she didn't.
Speaker 1: I she she's coming back around, Yeah, coming back back around.
Speaker 1: Then Brock and Sheena get into a big fight about
Speaker 1: Sheena wanting to leave early. Uh. Then Sheena and Sandoval
Speaker 1: get into an even bigger fight because he brings up
Speaker 1: the instance when she was the other woman. She was
Speaker 1: twenty one years old, and they were not on a
Speaker 1: television show together, and she did not know. Regardless if
Speaker 1: she knew or she didn't know, this is a very
Speaker 1: different situation. I don't think you can compare the two
Speaker 1: and Sandoval, even if you think you can compare the two, stop.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. I don't understand.
Speaker 2: It's like every time I feel like he takes a
Speaker 2: step forward with Shena, who's probably besides Lala, like the
Speaker 2: next person that he could probably have a relationship with,
Speaker 2: maybe he sabotages it every time, right when he starts
Speaker 2: to build like a little bit of camaraderie back and
Speaker 2: then he's like bam, and he just sucks it up.
Speaker 1: I wish Sheena would have responded back like this show
Speaker 1: exists because of that, and you wouldn't have even been
Speaker 1: on the show if I didn't do that, because you
Speaker 1: realize that Brandy and Sheena correlation through Beverly Hills is
Speaker 1: what started van upon rules.
Speaker 2: Ah, so well he should write her a thank you
Speaker 2: note then.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, and you did it that her past
Speaker 1: and listen. I can only find one video or picture
Speaker 1: of Sena with Eddie Cibrian and she was twenty one
Speaker 1: years old, like in Lake have a Suit. This is
Speaker 1: a very different circumstance.
Speaker 2: Is that? Who was I didn't even know?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Eddie, so please Emily. Then it's coming up
Speaker 1: the trip to San Francisco, where Sandoval will meet Ariana's
Speaker 1: new boyfriend for the first time and starts suggests a
Speaker 1: one night stand with Katie. I don't think it's happening.
Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to have it.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think she's interested. Maybe it's the hair.
Speaker 2: I think he should die his hair back brown before
Speaker 2: he suggests it to her.
Speaker 1: I think he should almost go like salt and pepper,
Speaker 1: because I do agree. I think it was James that
Speaker 1: said the different color Brown's isn't always working. Like just
Speaker 1: go natural, like go die it back brown and then
Speaker 1: let it grow out and cut it. Maybe have a
Speaker 1: stot a cut that you could style properly.
Speaker 3: Also, yeah, because he has a lot of hair, he
Speaker 3: has a lot to work with.
Speaker 2: They could he could have good hair.
Speaker 1: He's not going to be able to get that Jack's endorsement.
Speaker 2: No, you know, like we should go with like the
Speaker 2: Jesse look like the salt and pepper like things. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But then last night and watch What Happens Live,
Speaker 1: Ali read Andy's birth chart and he said, and she said,
Speaker 1: Gemini's son means he's a storyteller. His Leo Moon says
Speaker 1: that he has energy and drive and libra rising, which
Speaker 1: means everybody loves him. He also has Mercury in his
Speaker 1: tenth house, which is the smartest planet. Andy asked if
Speaker 1: he's going to find love, and she says that he
Speaker 1: has Saturn in his seventh house, which is the planet
Speaker 1: of relationships and marriage. Mozzle, Andy, Mozzle.
Speaker 2: Right, Andy, let's see that's exciting, very exciting.
Speaker 1: All Right, Let's take a little break and we'll come
Speaker 1: back to talk about the valley. All right, we are
Speaker 1: back to talk about episode six of the Valley, but
Speaker 1: before we start that, let's discuss Janet addressing Kristen revealing
Speaker 1: the information that she supposedly everybody about Michelle, saying she
Speaker 1: was the start of some of the information, but the
Speaker 1: word racist never came out of her mouth, So she'll
Speaker 1: take accountability for what she said, but not Kristen's words.
Speaker 1: I thought she perfectly prepared that statement.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, she knew.
Speaker 1: She knew she was watched her as.
Speaker 2: I didn't watch it, but dis based upon what you said,
Speaker 2: she knew she was going to get asked that, and
Speaker 2: that was she said it.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, she said it well because she's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: did I stir the pod a little bit? Yes, I
Speaker 1: will take accountability for that. But did she mince my
Speaker 1: words and change them? Yes? So I think both could
Speaker 1: be true.
Speaker 2: Well, here's probably what happened. She said republican, and then
Speaker 2: someone had to take it a step further and add
Speaker 2: racist in there. That that could have happened, and that's
Speaker 2: probably what happened.
Speaker 1: I think they were shit talking. I think they were
Speaker 1: openly shit talking. And then when shit talking happens in
Speaker 1: alcohol and blah blah blah, and they just keep like avoiding,
Speaker 1: avoiding and then adding more, you know.
Speaker 2: Which makes it worse because they're not actually saying what
Speaker 2: was said because they don't want to actually say what
Speaker 2: was said, so you're right, So they go around it
Speaker 2: and try to add things to make it sound like
Speaker 2: what it was, but it wasn't really it. So now
Speaker 2: this is a big mess. So that's a big old mess.
Speaker 1: But so are Kristin Luke discussing practicing to getting pregnant more.
Speaker 1: They love to talk about sex, they do.
Speaker 2: They talk about sex all the time, and I just
Speaker 2: get a visual every single time, and I don't need
Speaker 2: that right now.
Speaker 3: Just we can move on from that.
Speaker 1: Luke does need his fish is to what is it? Pond?
Speaker 1: He wants a fish and pond. I'm like, Luke, the
Speaker 1: biggest fish that you've caught is Kristin because you are
Speaker 1: loving the camera time, loving it. I'm curious because we
Speaker 1: are gonna have Kristin on what she says about Luke
Speaker 1: Colorado feeling about being on television because it doesn't seem
Speaker 1: like he's a.
Speaker 3: He's not a mister private person.
Speaker 1: No. I think he's enjoying it. I think he's he's like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm madly considering California for the first time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll just get me a fish and pond right
Speaker 2: here in the valley. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Here, I'll just make one here, just you know what,
Speaker 1: get a kiddie pool. I'll throw some fish in there
Speaker 1: and I'll catch it every day. To feel nad he do.
Speaker 1: Then Jax meets Jasmine at a bar. Jasmine lets Jax
Speaker 1: in on how Brittany is feeling. She gives him. Really,
Speaker 1: I think Jasmine is the voice of reason. Yeah, for
Speaker 1: the most part. She gives good advice on Brittany, which,
Speaker 1: of course we know he's not going to take.
Speaker 3: But why does that?
Speaker 2: Okay, but Jack's already had this conversation with Brittany. It's
Speaker 2: it's sad that someone else has to come in and
Speaker 2: remind him that he needs to be nice to his
Speaker 2: wife and compliment her and have sex with her. Like
Speaker 2: he has to have a third party come in and
Speaker 2: tell him this.
Speaker 1: I really wish, because this is the problem. I'm watching
Speaker 1: Summer House now too for the first time, and Lindsey
Speaker 1: is talking about her sex life with Carl and or
Speaker 1: her lack of sex life with Carl as the show's airing,
Speaker 1: and they have a conversation that does end up happening,
Speaker 1: which is in some relationships when you don't have sex
Speaker 1: for a long time and then you try to have
Speaker 1: sex and then one person can't finish or the other
Speaker 1: person can't get hard, like it just becomes a mental
Speaker 1: warfare between the couple because you can't get back to
Speaker 1: that place. I wish those were the conversations they were having, Like, listen, you,
Speaker 1: it's not that you're too busy, like we know you're
Speaker 1: not fully running. Jax's like, let's be clear, this isn't
Speaker 1: a Schwartz and Sandy situation.
Speaker 2: It's just not you're saying. The conversation is way too superficial.
Speaker 2: It's just we don't have sex. But they're not actually
Speaker 2: talking about what the root of the problem is. Why
Speaker 2: not are you not attracted to her? Are you attracted
Speaker 2: to her but you're not feeling confident with yourself? Does
Speaker 2: it have to do with you? What is the root
Speaker 2: of the problem.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think part of the problem. And
Speaker 1: I hate to even say this, but when Jack saw
Speaker 1: that girl at the bar at the bar and said
Speaker 1: I want my wife to be wearing something like that,
Speaker 1: I felt like that was a dig like this is
Speaker 1: what I'm attracted to.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, the constant like scenes of him checking
Speaker 2: out other women. You know, there was another one I
Speaker 2: can't was it on the valley or was a fan
Speaker 2: or pump, I don't know where there was another woman
Speaker 2: that was like hot and he was like, I can't look,
Speaker 2: I can't look. You know. He had to make like
Speaker 2: a thing out of it. Yeah, you know what I'm
Speaker 2: talking about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I I well, like that would.
Speaker 2: Hurt my feelings if Shane made references to like having
Speaker 2: to look away at another woman because.
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, like I can't I can't look at her
Speaker 1: because she doesn't have a bra. Yeah, it's he's saying
Speaker 1: I'm tempted.
Speaker 2: Right exactly.
Speaker 3: That's my point I was trying to get to.
Speaker 2: That is that if he has to say things out
Speaker 2: loud that other women are hot, but he has to
Speaker 2: look away because he doesn't want to look at him,
Speaker 2: because he doesn't want to be tempted.
Speaker 3: Like, that's a serious problem.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're tempted to want to have sex with
Speaker 1: other people but you're not tempted to have sex with
Speaker 1: your wife you have a child with, this is a problem.
Speaker 1: And that's actually what you should be talking about, like
Speaker 1: is your labite? Are you older and you're just not
Speaker 1: wanting to have sex anymore, or you're wanting to have sex,
Speaker 1: just not want to have sex with your wife. That's
Speaker 1: what they need to say, not all this other bullshit.
Speaker 1: But I think also Jax is on vander Pump saying
Speaker 1: Brittany is letting him go out and get up, yet
Speaker 1: on the Valley he's calling Britney out for her going out,
Speaker 1: Like it just there's so much false information. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's hard to keep.
Speaker 2: Track, it is. It's a lot of Jacks. I can't
Speaker 2: even keep track of, like if you said it on
Speaker 2: the Valley, if you said it on vander Pump, because
Speaker 2: there's just so much Jax right now, I can't I
Speaker 2: can't keep it concise.
Speaker 1: Oh but what about Jack's trying to pull the wool
Speaker 1: over our eyes by sharing the information with Jasmine and
Speaker 1: then saying like, you know, I don't want to I
Speaker 1: don't want this to get out there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't tell anybody.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna tell you in the twenty four production
Speaker 1: team and the camera and like it, Jacks, this is
Speaker 1: saying your first radio we know just what you're doing,
Speaker 1: but lvp's better at it. But yeah, then we get
Speaker 1: to Jason and Jesse come to Danny and Nias to
Speaker 1: help break down and build some furniture. No, listen, splurge
Speaker 1: for task Rabbit, because the thought that Jesse could build
Speaker 1: anything right right, nor did he want to.
Speaker 2: Jason looks like he could be handy, possibly, but Jesse, Like,
Speaker 2: why anyone thought Jesse could put anything together is beyond me.
Speaker 2: The only thing he could put together is like his
Speaker 2: hair and his outfit.
Speaker 1: And he can pop a champagne bottle, he can pop
Speaker 1: a ruin art bottle. I saw him. I saw him.
Speaker 3: Gudd.
Speaker 2: He's not going to ruin his manicure doing manual labor.
Speaker 1: No, absolutely not going to happen. But watch what happens live.
Speaker 1: Did vote Nia and Danny their favorite couple at eighty
Speaker 1: two percent overall vote. This is not shocking to me.
Speaker 1: I think they actually are a couple that are talking
Speaker 1: about the real things. Even when they were at dinner
Speaker 1: and you can see that Danny's starting to get a
Speaker 1: little tipsy and he goes to like raise his hand
Speaker 1: Nia to.
Speaker 4: See such your wife thing, she put your hand down,
Speaker 4: step out it stop it. No time for that like
Speaker 4: this is not this isn't your time to step in, buddy,
Speaker 4: like she they act like husband and wife they actually are.
Speaker 2: And actually I think they actually have a very good
Speaker 2: relationship which I actually like each other. It's nice, yes,
Speaker 2: which is nice because everyone else is such a hot mess.
Speaker 3: It's nice to have.
Speaker 2: The one you know, relatable, normal, seem to get along,
Speaker 2: love each other, mutual respect relationship.
Speaker 1: Who do you think would build set up a nursery better?
Speaker 1: Jesse and Danny and Jason or Sand of all James
Speaker 1: and Shorts.
Speaker 2: I'm going to give it to Sand of all James
Speaker 2: and Shorts. I feel like I feel like Shane and
Speaker 2: Edwin or Shane could put that together, like no problem.
Speaker 1: He's there's absolutely no way I think could do it.
Speaker 2: Now I done.
Speaker 1: Can't even change about Shane.
Speaker 2: Shane's so handy. He hangs chandeliers and hangs huge TVs
Speaker 2: and wires it through the wall and all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 1: So I know who I need to call next time
Speaker 1: I need something done. It ain't Jesse, It's Shane.
Speaker 3: It's Shane.
Speaker 1: Then they drive Jackson Brittany drive to see progress of
Speaker 1: Jackx's in a golf cart.
Speaker 3: I like the golf cart.
Speaker 1: I like the golf cart. I do want to know,
Speaker 1: like do you have to have legal street parking? Because
Speaker 1: they parked in the red.
Speaker 2: Oh I thought you meant is the golf cart street legal?
Speaker 2: Like did they add all that like turn.
Speaker 1: Out and everything was in the red?
Speaker 3: Well you know how that works. Production gets out there
Speaker 3: and puts the cone there and.
Speaker 1: Fine, But I was like, don't don't act like my
Speaker 1: eyes can't see. But Brittany feels like her ideas aren't
Speaker 1: being heard, that she's not involved at all. And then
Speaker 1: when afterwards, like you can tell his business partners are
Speaker 1: being really nice to her.
Speaker 2: They are trying to like write like.
Speaker 1: Do you want to see the stain flowers?
Speaker 3: We love ideas.
Speaker 1: But then they sit down and Jackson Brittany keep trying
Speaker 1: to talk about the relationship, and Jackson's just so stressed so.
Speaker 2: He doesn't know, but he just doesn't want to have
Speaker 2: the conversation with her, Like it's it's clear to me
Speaker 2: that he doesn't want her involved in this bar. He
Speaker 2: doesn't want her ideas. He doesn't want her there because.
Speaker 1: He wants to bone other people in it. And it's
Speaker 1: gonna be hard with his wife there.
Speaker 3: He needs to keep her far away from the bathroom.
Speaker 1: Like he's like, I don't need you being on a
Speaker 1: group text exchange. What happens if my text sex pictures
Speaker 1: on it? Like I can't have you there ruining my game.
Speaker 1: And I've been telling you that I'm having libido issues.
Speaker 1: But he didn't. He even though he's very stressed, he
Speaker 1: did have the time to plug his hair loss care product.
Speaker 1: I liked the edit totally just bagged on this whole event,
Speaker 1: Like they broke the fourth wall. They made sure we
Speaker 1: all knew it was for TV. It wasn't like a
Speaker 1: a gin Alians product placement. It was like, no, we're
Speaker 1: really going to talk about it. They showed a bald
Speaker 1: spot that was like right, and then they had like
Speaker 1: the arrow with an arrow pointing to it. And then
Speaker 1: I think Jesse did make me laugh when he goes,
Speaker 1: I think it's a calk. I was like, I have
Speaker 1: a calk too. Can I get one of those endorsement deals? Schwartz,
Speaker 1: is there, Brittany's meat, Mamma is there, mamma, mamma, my
Speaker 1: Mamma's landing. Brittany is so sweet and Jackson is just
Speaker 1: such a douche lord. I know, I know, poor Brittany,
Speaker 1: but he's an entertaining douche lord that he is. That
Speaker 1: actually at by the end of this episode, you even
Speaker 1: forget that Jacks is a douche lord because other people
Speaker 1: take over. Then Janet asked Jasmine about her lunch with Jack's.
Speaker 1: Jasmine doesn't want to repeat what Jack said. Jasmine thinks
Speaker 1: they're both messy. Jax and Jesse flirt with the Burning
Speaker 1: Man pop up vendor, who's having a Mermaid show? How many?
Speaker 2: How many times has she been the Burning Man? I
Speaker 2: mean she left, she left Burning Man.
Speaker 1: She thinks she's still at.
Speaker 2: Burning She's like, ed, we're going to have a Mermaid show.
Speaker 1: She's like, I didn't her, but you can. This is
Speaker 1: where the shift starts to happen, when Michelle walks over
Speaker 1: and catches Jesse outside talking to BMV Burning Man, Burning
Speaker 1: Man Vendor.
Speaker 2: It's the Burning Man, Mermaid, Burning Man, Mermaid Vendor.
Speaker 1: Yes, you can see like darkness in her eyes, Like
Speaker 1: she doesn't even like say a word.
Speaker 2: She's like, I know, she's like when you feel like
Speaker 2: cold chills on the back of your neck and like
Speaker 2: you get like goosebumps and the hair on the back
Speaker 2: of your next hands up, she's that's her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I'd be fucking no. I mean, Jesse didn't
Speaker 1: talk at the beginning of dinner because he was frightened.
Speaker 1: He was ready to be like Lorena Bobbitt, like at
Speaker 1: the dinner table, he knew it was coming. And I
Speaker 1: think that's what they weren't actually saying, is like they
Speaker 1: were in a fight at that moment, but they were
Speaker 1: trying to pull it together and then it became then
Speaker 1: Jesse had to just make everything worse.
Speaker 2: Well, no, what did he say? He said, like two
Speaker 2: hours earlier he had a conversation about something.
Speaker 3: What was that.
Speaker 1: Well, I feel like the beginning of the dinner was
Speaker 1: edited a little weirdly because the timing just wasn't making sense,
Speaker 1: and I was noticing the cups were filled up different lights,
Speaker 1: like it just I don't know. There was so much tension, right.
Speaker 2: And that is why. But he made some comment about
Speaker 2: like an hour before, two hours before something happened that.
Speaker 1: My guess, you know, we've all been at these dinners
Speaker 1: where you've been sitting around, dicking around, talking about shit.
Speaker 1: They're never going to show, like what's your favorite television show,
Speaker 1: Who's your biggest celebrity crush? No one cares, right, And
Speaker 1: Jesse is now getting tipsy and he's like, is somebody
Speaker 1: going to say anything worth listening to? Right?
Speaker 2: Because I want to go home?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I'm over it, And I think that's what's happening.
Speaker 1: He's carrying around that he knows that Michelle does not
Speaker 1: want to be with him, and that's the situation. But
Speaker 1: this leads me to my biggest question that I have
Speaker 1: for you, Emily.
Speaker 5: Yeah, why would you go on to a reality television
Speaker 5: show knowing that your significant that your marriage is not
Speaker 5: going to make it?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: I asked myself the same question. But I feel like
Speaker 2: when someone like Jesse is a true narcissist, that for
Speaker 2: them it's just a way to look right and to
Speaker 2: look like like they're winning or I don't know, Like,
Speaker 2: I don't think they have a problem putting themselves out
Speaker 2: there because they don't see anything wrong with themselves.
Speaker 1: U think neither of them do.
Speaker 2: No, No, I think both of them is so stuck
Speaker 2: in their head about how they're right that they don't
Speaker 2: mind airing it because they're not embarrassed by it at all.
Speaker 1: And I I mean I guess I can understand that
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit if they didn't also have a child.
Speaker 1: But they're going into it knowing it's one thing we
Speaker 1: have watched.
Speaker 2: Just the same guy that like tried to get his
Speaker 2: kid to ride a bike and was like, ride the bike,
Speaker 2: get on the bike.
Speaker 1: And your life said to your kid, Like, I'm like, Cruce,
Speaker 1: get in the elevator. I know you're scared of elevators.
Speaker 1: You can give me a hug, but get in the elevator.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but would you do that when they're filming?
Speaker 1: Probably not.
Speaker 3: I would, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But then the people would be like, why is Teddy
Speaker 1: being so weird and awkward? And it's because I'm not
Speaker 1: actually being my transparent self. But like that was moments
Speaker 1: and it's happened as a parent, So like.
Speaker 3: I feel here's the thing.
Speaker 2: I feel like so many couples go on reality shows
Speaker 2: when they know their relationship is in the toilet.
Speaker 3: And I don't know if it's because a reality.
Speaker 2: Show gives them, like maybe the one one feels like
Speaker 2: it gives them a platform. Like clearly Michelle has a platform.
Speaker 2: Now she's out there and she's moved on and dates
Speaker 2: some hot guy.
Speaker 3: That's amazing.
Speaker 1: Why I'm worried? I mean, and then are we going
Speaker 1: to see Jesse and Michelle and the new hot guy
Speaker 1: and whoever Jesse's gonna date is this? Are they all
Speaker 1: going to be on? Because I really don't need any
Speaker 1: of them to go.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 1: So Michelle calls him out for being quiet, Kristin says
Speaker 1: Jesse is disrespectful and disgusting, and his own wife calls
Speaker 1: him a douchebag. Luke says Kristin calls him that too,
Speaker 1: like talking about himself.
Speaker 2: I was like, wait, it's what happened to Luke, But
Speaker 2: I don't understand. He's always he's always so defensive of Kristin.
Speaker 3: Everything she does he defends.
Speaker 2: So then when he kind of turned on her and
Speaker 2: was like, well, you call me that too, I was like,
Speaker 2: is he confused about who he's talking to?
Speaker 1: And also everybody calls everyone a douchebag? There are worse
Speaker 1: things to be called. I called you a douchebag behind
Speaker 1: your back so many times, just kidding.
Speaker 3: I call it to you to your face.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like douche lord. I remember, douche lord.
Speaker 2: To do well, you would be a douche lordis a
Speaker 2: douche queen, You're a douche duchess.
Speaker 1: But either way, the fight between Luke and Kristin is
Speaker 1: confusing to me. But then we hear on Mike off
Speaker 1: camera a producer trying to calm Kristin down regarding Jesse.
Speaker 1: Kristen is upset because Jesse is a psycho, but she
Speaker 1: doesn't want to out anything in their marriage. So clearly
Speaker 1: this is why the dinner editing is so weird, because
Speaker 1: they are telling Kristin it's time for this to come out.
Speaker 1: Jack's has already laid it down for you to handle it,
Speaker 1: and she's not wanting to do it because she's already
Speaker 1: said other things that have gotten her in.
Speaker 3: Trouble with them, and she's like, I'm not doing that again.
Speaker 1: Side take me up, the coach, put the pregnant lady.
Speaker 2: Make me do it, and like how they all stop
Speaker 2: her in the hallway though you know she was trying
Speaker 2: to leave and they're all just like.
Speaker 1: Oh, she's done. Like she's like, get me out of here.
Speaker 1: And then Jesse says to christ Kristen on Mike, if
Speaker 1: you bring out any skeletons, I already don't know about
Speaker 1: my wife, I will bury you. But then why did
Speaker 1: they have to suck up the line and say that
Speaker 1: Jesse said that he was gonna leave. That was a
Speaker 1: real gup. Who said that? That really Kristen said it?
Speaker 1: She said it wrong.
Speaker 3: She messes everything up.
Speaker 2: She has to stop being the messenger because she doesn't
Speaker 2: get it right.
Speaker 1: Well, she miss delivered it. I know that she knew that.
Speaker 1: I think she knew. We'll ask her. I think she
Speaker 1: knew the accurate information. But I think at the end
Speaker 1: of the night may possibly be like the two of us,
Speaker 1: after we've had three espresso martini's, we may misdeliver and information.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that was a big missdelivery because there was
Speaker 2: a huge difference between my wife will most likely leave
Speaker 2: me within the next two within the next two months,
Speaker 2: and I'm going to leave my wife in two months.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, I mean you saw the difference in Michelle's face.
Speaker 3: I was like yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Was like, you're dead man, You're a dead man walking.
Speaker 1: But then this is where it really starts to get
Speaker 1: Instead of comical, it now is getting sad because then
Speaker 1: they start getting physical.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that Jesse, who was he trying to go after.
Speaker 1: Luke Luke because I think when he was like.
Speaker 2: Jumping through all everybody and everybody going back.
Speaker 1: Push through Brittany, I'm like, don't get don't get Brittany
Speaker 1: her me maws in town or like weave the poor
Speaker 1: gal out of it, but it really. Luke then says
Speaker 1: to Jesse, your problem is with your wife. Jesse goes
Speaker 1: into a rage pushes Oh yeah. First he pushes Zach
Speaker 1: barreling into everybody, including pushing Brittany.
Speaker 3: Out of the way.
Speaker 2: And then now because Zach was like into the wall,
Speaker 2: and then did you see Craig from production there?
Speaker 3: I saw Craig.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, Craig, I haven't.
Speaker 3: Seen you, Hello, Craig.
Speaker 1: Craig's like, Hella, Craig, what are you gonna do about it?
Speaker 1: Craig really coming on mixed for this. Get over there, Greg,
Speaker 1: get out of the shop, buddy. No, Craig's in there.
Speaker 1: He's trying to stop. And Luke's like, I wasn't gonna
Speaker 1: hit him. I wasn't gonna I was backing up the
Speaker 1: whole time. I'm like, yeah, real nice backed up so
Speaker 1: then he could take out freaking Brittany, right, So.
Speaker 2: I like, I like Jesse when he afterwards, after he
Speaker 2: jumped through everybody and knocked everybody down, like his hair
Speaker 2: is all disheveled and his shirt's untocked and everything.
Speaker 3: What a disaster.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Then then Michelle gets involved and starts yelling at Kristin
Speaker 1: to shut the up. Kristin says she's done protecting Michelle.
Speaker 1: Kristen says Michelle doesn't know what Jesse is saying behind
Speaker 1: her back. Michelle asked what. It continues, on and on
Speaker 1: and on. Michelle screams for everybody to get back into
Speaker 1: the room. She is gonna talk. I'm like, you already
Speaker 1: use that line.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And why would you want everybody to see when
Speaker 2: stuff like that happens. You can't then organize everyone, get
Speaker 2: everyone to sit down, and get everyone to listen, like
Speaker 2: it's the party's over.
Speaker 1: The party is over. We've now pushed people down, We've
Speaker 1: like Zach.
Speaker 3: Disheveled, his shirt's hanging out.
Speaker 2: This is not go This is not a time to
Speaker 2: reconvene and reasonably talk about what happened.
Speaker 1: And Michelle, I hate to be the bearer of bad news.
Speaker 1: You're not in a reasonable position yourself either right now.
Speaker 1: So you were the lad if there was anyone in
Speaker 1: this moment that could have had a conversation in a
Speaker 1: in a proper fashion, it would have been Jasmine, the
Speaker 1: voice of reason. But I didn't see her anywhere in
Speaker 1: this portion. I was like, where's Jasmine? She needs to
Speaker 1: get everyone together, right.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question. Though this bothers me
Speaker 2: as just someone on TV as well. But when people
Speaker 2: say I know things about you or I know things
Speaker 2: about I'm not going to say it, Like when Kristen
Speaker 2: keeps saying I know these things. I've been protecting your
Speaker 2: You know, I'm protecting you and protecting you. I hate
Speaker 2: it when people do that because to me, then it
Speaker 2: just leaves it up open for interpretation, and the interpretation
Speaker 2: could be worse than what the actual information is. So
Speaker 2: I don't really feel like you're doing a service to anyone.
Speaker 2: You're just making it worse.
Speaker 1: But I have a question. We can talk about this
Speaker 1: because this is past. It already aired on an Orange
Speaker 1: County There was somebody doing that. Were you doing that
Speaker 1: with Shannon last year?
Speaker 3: No, I say stuff to people's face.
Speaker 1: Who there was somebody that was saying things in confessionals.
Speaker 1: Oh it was Heather, But that is different saying things
Speaker 1: in your confessionals is different than telling a cast member,
Speaker 1: which Heather did not do got it and her confessionals,
Speaker 1: So there there is a difference. But when you're threatening
Speaker 1: it on camera right to the person, but not actually
Speaker 1: saying it. I was like, also, Kristin, if you're gonna
Speaker 1: let things out right now, maybe you should let Michelle
Speaker 1: know that her nip has been out half the time.
Speaker 2: Did you notice they had the little well yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: free the nipple. I think it's a thousand dollars every
Speaker 2: time you have to every time you have to use
Speaker 2: the nipple, blur because because they have to use it
Speaker 2: on me sometimes because I got on Yeah. Then and
Speaker 2: then I think Heather told me She's like, Emily, don't
Speaker 2: you know every time your nipple comes out's a thousand
Speaker 2: dollars they have to blur it out.
Speaker 1: I now, I'm now I have to check out my
Speaker 1: nipples because that never happened to me.
Speaker 3: It always happens to me.
Speaker 2: Mine are like wonky.
Speaker 3: They're all over the place.
Speaker 2: They're always like what's They're always like, what's going on
Speaker 2: out there?
Speaker 1: So I think of you. But then Kristin and Luke leave,
Speaker 1: Kristin drops her bomb that Michelle had a boyfriend for
Speaker 1: a year. She says that she didn't sign up for
Speaker 1: this again and she'd rather be on Van of Pump Rules.
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, Kristin, at this point, you want to
Speaker 1: be right where you are because this show's better.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: Then on watch What Happens Live, seventy six percent of
Speaker 1: the audience we're on Kristin and Luke's side in this
Speaker 1: hallway fight. Ninety three percent believe Kristin that Michelle had
Speaker 1: a boyfriend. What do you believe, Emily.
Speaker 2: No, I think she did. I mean, look at their
Speaker 2: relationship between Jesse and Michelle, and you know, I think
Speaker 2: we like to place a lot of blame on Jesse
Speaker 2: and say that he's.
Speaker 3: A douche lord.
Speaker 2: But you know, maybe it's Michelle that's been the problem
Speaker 2: and he's just trying to deal with it, and he
Speaker 2: looks like a douche, like maybe he knows about this
Speaker 2: affair or he suspects it and he's trying to deal
Speaker 2: with her, and she's like a sniper. She's all like
Speaker 2: calm and cool, but really she's just like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's probably getting at him twenty I mean, who knows.
Speaker 1: I think they're both I think it's a very toxic relationship.
Speaker 1: I think it's good that they're not together. But do
Speaker 1: I think they both haven't contributed to this mess? No,
Speaker 1: I think they're both very much. So. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know how Kristin could have even come up with
Speaker 1: Michelle having a boyfriend for a year if that.
Speaker 2: Didn't happen exactly, so I think so. I mean, I
Speaker 2: think she probably met someone famous, got all engulfed into
Speaker 2: that life of fame and was very excited about it.
Speaker 3: And she's a real estate agent, so you can use.
Speaker 2: That as like, oh, I'm showing them a house every
Speaker 2: day of the week, I'm showing him my house.
Speaker 1: But I I don't know, it just was. It was
Speaker 1: very very messy, and I am excited to talk to
Speaker 1: Kristin about it. And I kind of want to see
Speaker 1: what I need to like meet Michelle. I need to
Speaker 1: like feel her energy energy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because but see here's the thing about Michelle, though,
Speaker 2: you would have to meet her more than one time
Speaker 2: to actually feel her energy.
Speaker 1: Did you feel my energy the first time I met you?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're a ding dong and that was like apparent.
Speaker 2: But so so it's perfect, perfect, No, but I feel
Speaker 2: like with someone like Michelle, you couldn't just meet her
Speaker 2: once and actually know what she was about. I feel
Speaker 2: like it would take several meetings.
Speaker 1: I feel like she might be the person that's not
Speaker 1: super friendly the first time you meet exactly.
Speaker 2: I feel like she would be cold and guarded the
Speaker 2: first time. So I don't know if you would really know.
Speaker 1: Well, let's have her on. Let's see.
Speaker 3: Well, let's do it.
Speaker 1: Hold on, let's let's see who she We'll pull the
Speaker 1: shorts and Katie. Let's see who she likes more, Teddy
Speaker 1: or Emily? Who does she Who is she gonna vibe with?
Speaker 1: Do you think, oh, oh, who are we asking each other? Yeah?
Speaker 1: We're asking each other. You know.
Speaker 2: I was like, is there a pole somewhere that people?
Speaker 1: I'm very fancy now this is like, watch what happens.
Speaker 2: I was waiting for a pole to like come up
Speaker 2: at the bottom.
Speaker 1: Like, oh my gosh. Well, thanks you guys for too
Speaker 1: and again we are loving recapping these shows and appreciate
Speaker 1: you listening.
Speaker 3: Thanks for listening, guys,