WEBVTT - A Test in the Desert | The Beatdown Podcast | Washington Commanders | NFL 0:00:07.760 --> 0:00:08.840 What's up? What's happening now? 0:00:08.880 --> 0:00:11.760 This is another episode of the Beatdown Podcast. And I 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:14.800 don't know about y'all, but I'm still over the moon 0:00:14.920 --> 0:00:17.320 about that thirty eight to thirty three win over the 0:00:17.360 --> 0:00:20.760 Cincinnati Bengals. I mean that touchdown to Terry McLaurin to 0:00:20.800 --> 0:00:23.520 ice the game, just inject it into my veins. But 0:00:23.720 --> 0:00:26.119 we're gonna have to find a new fix this week, 0:00:26.239 --> 0:00:28.200 as the Commanders need to turn the page for Week 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:30.720 four and take on the Arizona Cardinals in hopes of 0:00:30.840 --> 0:00:33.840 starting three to one for the first time since two 0:00:33.880 --> 0:00:38.239 thousand and eleven, so well over a decade here. And 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:41.320 the Cardinals are a very solid team. Caler Murray is 0:00:41.400 --> 0:00:43.840 very dynamic both in the passing game and on the ground, 0:00:44.000 --> 0:00:46.520 and they're even a little bit fister than you might think. 0:00:47.120 --> 0:00:49.800 So how the Commander's going to be able to take 0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:52.159 them down? Well, that is exactly what we're going to 0:00:52.200 --> 0:00:55.800 be discussing today. And with me, we have two more guests, 0:00:56.240 --> 0:00:59.120 Scott Abraham from ABC seven and David Harrison from SI 0:00:59.160 --> 0:01:00.280 dot Com making every turn. 0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:01.680 Guys, how are we feeling this morning? 0:01:02.080 --> 0:01:03.400 Let's go, let's do it. 0:01:04.160 --> 0:01:05.400 Yeah, I'm doing doing good. 0:01:05.600 --> 0:01:10.040 Doing very excited to avenge my previously unearned defeat. 0:01:10.280 --> 0:01:12.800 Yeah, I was gonna ask you that. And David, it's seven. 0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:14.880 Am where you're right out right now, so I really 0:01:14.920 --> 0:01:16.959 appreciate you doing this kind not it's in the early 0:01:17.000 --> 0:01:19.760 hours of the morning out there in the desert. But yeah, David, 0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:23.920 you you lost in week one, the first podcast of 0:01:24.000 --> 0:01:26.800 the beat Down to Late Lewis, so you're definitely you're 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:28.480 definitely feeling out for revenge. 0:01:28.160 --> 0:01:30.480 Right, Oh yeah, absolutely, got I got it. 0:01:31.240 --> 0:01:34.160 Wait, who determines who wins? How do you figure that out? 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:37.119 Well, I'm really glad you asked that, because that's exactly 0:01:37.160 --> 0:01:39.480 what we're going to be going over next. So for 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:41.720 anyone who is just now listening for the first time, 0:01:41.800 --> 0:01:43.880 I'm going to be asking these guys three questions over 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:45.880 the next twenty five to thirty minutes or so. Won 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:47.720 an offense, won a defense, A more one, more of 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:51.080 a general ish question. These guys will be giving points 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:55.160 based on their and their answers, And again, you don't 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:57.960 need to take the points too seriously. It's you know, 0:01:58.000 --> 0:02:00.480 what's more important is the objective information that these guys 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:02.880 are giving you. Because they, like everyone else on the 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:04.640 beat there to some of the best of what they do. 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:06.760 But that said, it is my podcast and I get 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:08.120 decide who wins and who loses. 0:02:08.440 --> 0:02:10.680 Uh. So that's your answer, Scott. 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:14.000 Uh, it's good thing I sent you a venmol before 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:14.520 this started. 0:02:14.800 --> 0:02:15.200 Ah. 0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:19.240 You know, you know, extra incentives are always welcome over 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:24.400 at the Beatdown Podcast. So with all the pleasantries and 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:27.079 the information out of the way, let's go ahead and 0:02:27.160 --> 0:02:30.240 get started here. And yeah, I know as much as 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:33.720 I love to eat my desserts. First, we are going 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:35.840 to start with the medicine, which means we're gonna start 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:38.239 with the commanders defense here. And I don't think anyone 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:40.320 needs to point out that it has not been the 0:02:40.360 --> 0:02:43.440 greatest start for the group as they would have wanted. 0:02:43.720 --> 0:02:46.280 Their last and third down converts allowed, they are near 0:02:46.320 --> 0:02:50.280 the bottom end yards allowed, passing yards allowed. They're okay 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:52.600 on on the ground, but still they give a lot 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:55.239 of a lot of decent plays. It's till a chunk 0:02:55.280 --> 0:02:57.799 plays in the middle of the field between the tackles 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:00.560 either way, Like I said, not exactly what you would want. 0:03:01.280 --> 0:03:03.520 And Scott Sin's you are new, we will start with 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:06.639 you first. There's a lot of things right that the 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:09.040 Commanders need to improve upon. But which area do you 0:03:09.040 --> 0:03:10.840 think they need to improve on the most in order 0:03:10.880 --> 0:03:12.239 to get a win over the Cardinals. 0:03:12.360 --> 0:03:15.680 Listen, they got to stop the pass man that The 0:03:15.720 --> 0:03:18.840 secondary has been a problem all year long, and I 0:03:18.840 --> 0:03:21.079 think it's going to continue to be a problem. Look 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:25.000 at what the opposing wide receiver ones have done through 0:03:25.040 --> 0:03:28.720 the first three weeks of the season against that Washington secondary. 0:03:29.000 --> 0:03:32.639 Mike Evans went off, Malik Neighbors went off, Jamar Chase 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:36.720 went off. What is the solution? How do you fix that? Well, 0:03:37.040 --> 0:03:39.240 you gotta look at the big boys up on the line. 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:41.400 Can you get pressure on the quarterback? Can you get 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:44.640 pressure on the quarterback? Sack the quarterback while rushing being 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:48.560 only four? Remember the secondary and the defensive line, you 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:51.480 kind of work in concert. When one is off, the 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:54.800 other is off. So this is something that defensive coordinator 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:57.760 Joe Whitt Junior has been trying to figure out. They've 0:03:57.760 --> 0:04:00.000 had a few days off in Arigona trying to figure 0:04:00.000 --> 0:04:02.840 figure out the game plan for Kyler Murray from Marvin 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:06.320 Harrison Junior. You have Emmanuel Forbes coming back that could 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:08.920 be a boost the secondary. I think Benjamin Saint Jews 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:11.320 for the most part has been pretty solid. But it's 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:13.840 really tough, you know, trying to figure out how to 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:17.400 shut down the opposing team's wide receiver one. But I 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:21.680 think it comes down to pressure making the quarterback uncomfortable 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:24.200 getting home and trying to get those big guys up 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:25.440 trying to get to the quarterback. 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:26.160 Yeah. 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:28.560 And you know, honestly, that is such a good point 0:04:28.640 --> 0:04:31.400 because Jonathan Allen and Deron Payne are two of two 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:33.919 the reputation suggests there are two of the best demons 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:36.479 of tackles in the game right now, but they have 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:39.080 not really gotten off to as good of a start 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:40.839 as you would want. Like the rest of the defense, 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:42.640 I think they only have about five and a half 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:45.920 tackles between the two of them. So, David, I'll kind 0:04:45.920 --> 0:04:49.000 of pivot here and and really kind of asked you 0:04:49.040 --> 0:04:51.200 the same question, but with more of a defensive line twist, like, 0:04:51.800 --> 0:04:54.120 what what do you think it is about Jonathan Allendron 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:56.919 Payne and that that defensive line that's that's really not 0:04:57.440 --> 0:04:59.919 been as productive as you would like to life and 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:02.200 to be over the first three games. 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:03.839 And you know, I think I think ultimately what it 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:06.080 boils down to is the assignments that these guys have 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:09.400 right now, they're just simply not winning them enough and 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:12.960 winning them in tandem enough to make make the effect 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:14.039 that they need to make to make. 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:16.000 You know, when there's a lot of games you can 0:05:16.040 --> 0:05:18.080 play up front. Obviously he has a defensive front, and 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:20.880 Joe Junior has mentioned that, you know, he uses the 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:22.440 worst weak and you know, whether you want to call 0:05:22.480 --> 0:05:26.160 it adjusting or shifting or changing or whatever word you want, Like, 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:28.240 the good news here is. 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:30.680 That the coach understands this isn't good enough. 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:32.760 And it's not just the simple fact that my players 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:34.960 aren't executing. But when you do try the table a 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:36.919 good times where you know a guy will kind of 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:40.039 pain blockers down, then maybe the twister, the stunter or 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:42.040 the outside linebacker we'll come back. 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:42.400 In or whatever. 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:44.280 This either the gap it doesn't get there in time, 0:05:44.760 --> 0:05:46.920 or gets there with a bad angle or over pursues, 0:05:46.960 --> 0:05:49.320 and that's where things kind of get messed up. I 0:05:49.320 --> 0:05:52.760 mean going back to week one, and you know, everybody 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:54.720 kind of has their hand in it. So I think 0:05:54.760 --> 0:05:57.640 that while we on the outside focused on kind of 0:05:57.640 --> 0:06:00.920 the bigger names in it, they're they're opportunities for guys 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:03.680 from time to time that just aren't being taken advantage of. 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:05.840 And I think for Joey Junior, so okay, is it 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:08.160 not being taken advantage of because my players. 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:09.840 Just not doing the job, or is it they're a 0:06:09.839 --> 0:06:12.880 different way I can make this job approachable forward this. 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:15.760 Player, And I think it's encouraging to know that the 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:17.560 coach is trying to do that and. 0:06:17.480 --> 0:06:20.000 Get those fixes, because who's got's point? 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:23.800 I think that's where improving the past defense really starts. 0:06:23.800 --> 0:06:26.880 And to even add to that, in this game specifically, 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:31.120 there are defenses the area mccarlo's offensive face already that 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:34.120 are performing at a better rate right now and producing 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:38.320 better than the Washington Commanders defenses. And they're still able 0:06:38.360 --> 0:06:40.840 to exploit those defenses that again are playing at a 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:42.960 better clip. And the way they do that is their 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:47.880 shortstop quarterback, right And the problem with any mobile quarterback 0:06:48.040 --> 0:06:51.360 is if you don't have pocket discipline, containing discipline while 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:53.280 you're trying to have Russia while you're trying to get 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:55.320 better here, you're going to get burned anyway. 0:06:55.360 --> 0:06:57.040 But the problem with Kyler Murray. 0:06:56.839 --> 0:06:59.800 Being that shortstop style quarterback is he can do it 0:06:59.839 --> 0:07:03.360 on either side this dude has thirteen pass that's outside. 0:07:03.040 --> 0:07:05.680 The pocket this season so far, he's completed nine of. 0:07:05.680 --> 0:07:10.920 Them, or he's got fourteen completion sorry outside the pocket, 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:13.680 and they're basically evenly split from the left side and 0:07:13.720 --> 0:07:15.480 the right side. This student can escape the pocket on 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:18.800 either side and still make you pay with his mobility. 0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:21.320 So it's not like a quarterback that you know, needs 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:23.400 to scramble for the right side to say, a thrower 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:25.680 or needs to scramble to the left side. He can 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:28.680 do it all over the field and the best secondaries. 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:28.560 In the world. 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:30.360 If he can get out there and create five seconds 0:07:30.360 --> 0:07:32.480 of time for his receiver, they're always. 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:34.440 Going to get open. And that's really where this pass 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:36.320 rush has to get better this week. 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:38.400 Specifically, you just want to get to the quarterback, but 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:40.360 you also need to keep Piler in the pocket because 0:07:40.360 --> 0:07:41.560 that's where his number goes down. 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:43.760 Yeah, you know, absolutely right. 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:46.360 You know, it seems like if you can crash the pocket, 0:07:46.400 --> 0:07:48.200 you can kind of make feed up his process a 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:50.400 little bit and get him off because then he's a 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:52.320 he's a small dude, and if you can you can 0:07:52.400 --> 0:07:54.480 get around him, he's got you're to limit his vision. 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:57.280 But Scott you also mentioned, you know, the secondary and 0:07:57.440 --> 0:08:00.640 getting manual fours back with the thumb injury, you know, 0:08:00.760 --> 0:08:02.920 and you also brought up how these number one receivers 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:05.560 that Washington has gone up against has really given them 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:07.880 a tough time. And Marvin Harrison Junior is another one 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:10.720 who is I mean, just as dynamic, if not more 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:13.000 so than elite neighbors who gave them a lot of 0:08:13.080 --> 0:08:17.200 fits in week two. You know, we'll we'll go we'll 0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:19.880 go into the secondary here specifically because I think that's 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:22.600 that's gonna be another big challenge for them, even with 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:24.720 Emmanuel Forbes out there is you know, Scott, what have 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:27.560 you seen from from Marvin Harrison and what do you 0:08:27.680 --> 0:08:28.840 expect of this secondary? 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:29.440 Uh? 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:31.680 You know, as they go up against a passing a 0:08:31.720 --> 0:08:34.280 passing group, they didn't have necessarily as many weapons as 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:37.199 as the Bengals do. But again, like they've got some 0:08:37.600 --> 0:08:39.040 some pretty interesting pieces out there. 0:08:39.160 --> 0:08:41.960 Well, Marvin Harrison Junior comes from some pretty good DNA. 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:45.839 His father, Marvin Harrison Hall of Famer, well did his 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:49.520 thing with Pinton Manning in Indianapolis, one of the greatest 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:52.520 of all time. And Marvin Harrison Junior did his thing 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:55.920 in college was tremendous at Ohio State, and after a 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:58.959 slow Week one in the NFL, the last two weeks, 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:01.959 Marvin Harrison June has shown why he's going to be 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:05.319 one of the best receivers in the NFL for many 0:09:05.400 --> 0:09:07.880 years because he can do it all. He has the 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:10.640 route tree, he can be physical, he can take the 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:14.040 jump ball, he can be elusive and show off his speed. 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:17.800 So it's going to be a handful for this Washington secondary. 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:21.079 How do you stop Marvin Harrison Junior. Maybe get a 0:09:21.120 --> 0:09:23.559 little physical, well them cam him at the line of scrimmage, 0:09:23.760 --> 0:09:25.840 get him off get him off kilter a little bit, 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:28.280 don't give him a free free release. You know, you 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:32.080 got to try something. Clearly, what Washington has been doing 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:35.400 the last three weeks against those wide receiver ones hasn't 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:38.120 been working. So you got to go back into the playbook. 0:09:38.400 --> 0:09:41.160 That's why Joe Wick Junior is a defensive coordinator, That's 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:44.880 why he works in magic with the Dallas secondary. Last year, 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:47.880 they got to figure out a way to shut down 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:51.120 Marvin Harrison Junior. And I think a key element of 0:09:51.520 --> 0:09:54.319 all this is let's get some takeaways. Boys. Let's try 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:57.080 to figure out to punch the ball out, get a bumble, 0:09:57.120 --> 0:10:00.199 get an interception. Since this defense has been giving a 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:02.480 lot of yards and a lot of points, seems like 0:10:02.600 --> 0:10:05.720 the only way this defense can maybe stop the opposing 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:09.520 offense creating some turnovers. So maybe be a little bit 0:10:09.559 --> 0:10:13.439 more aggressive, take some chances, be physical. I think I 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:16.360 think throw the kitchen sink at at this point, guys, 0:10:16.480 --> 0:10:20.479 because what you've been doing hasn't been working. To try something. 0:10:20.280 --> 0:10:23.000 Different, David, real quick before before we move on to 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:25.439 the next question. Scovery's of an excellent point. They only 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:28.240 have one turnover U through the first, you know, three 0:10:28.320 --> 0:10:31.160 games of the season. What can they do to get 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:35.520 more opportunities for for for their offense because they simply 0:10:35.600 --> 0:10:38.120 cannot go through these interests where the commanders have to 0:10:38.360 --> 0:10:41.360 put up no point, no no punchs, no turnovers. They 0:10:41.440 --> 0:10:43.520 have to basically pitch a perfect game every single week 0:10:43.520 --> 0:10:45.320 in order that you give themselves the best chance to win. 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:48.319 Yeah, they gotta have faith. That I think is the 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:50.679 key here. So Coach Witt kind of talked about this 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:53.200 where you know, there are guys in positions to make 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:56.640 plays and they're either just not reacting fast enough or 0:10:56.960 --> 0:10:59.000 or they're not they're not trusting what they're seeing with 0:10:59.000 --> 0:11:01.880 their eyes fast enough to go and make the best 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:04.480 play right. They're in position to maybe make the hit, 0:11:04.600 --> 0:11:06.440 or try to get the tackle, maybe try to get 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:08.520 a punch out in all those things. But there's opportunities 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:10.200 there to break on the balls and break on routes. 0:11:10.360 --> 0:11:12.240 He's up the trust what you see, man, and and 0:11:13.160 --> 0:11:14.800 you know that could be hard, you know, especially when 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:16.360 you're talking about the secondary. 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:19.040 That's returning, you know, and you're just organic lineup. 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:21.640 You've got three three members of the secondary that are 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:23.640 recurring from the worst past secondary. 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:25.640 In the twenty point three NFL season, and then right 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:27.400 now when Jeremy Shid dropped. 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:29.079 Down in the box and putting Percy Butler out there 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:30.880 on the fields, and Night's got four members in that 0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:32.000 secondary that are problem with. 0:11:32.040 --> 0:11:35.800 That work pass defense in the NFL. So it's kind 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:38.400 of understandable from a human element to know, like those 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:40.599 guys are probably a little bit shell truck. They're a 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:43.160 little bit inconfident, unconfident in. 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:46.320 What they see their odds, and I think that's what's 0:11:46.360 --> 0:11:47.720 leading to some of these hesitations. 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:50.000 And as they get more confident, you know, I think 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:52.679 that's where they can play fast. You're always your coaches said, 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:54.240 once you're playing completely fast. 0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:55.840 I think these guys are in their heads a little 0:11:55.840 --> 0:11:57.959 bit more than Joe At wants them right now, and 0:11:58.000 --> 0:11:58.520 they're thinking, you. 0:11:58.520 --> 0:11:59.959 Know a little bit, the Scott's going. 0:12:00.000 --> 0:12:01.760 I think Benson Saint Jus is playing with a lot 0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:04.360 more confidence than maybe some of those other guys, and 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:06.040 I think as his confidence. 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:08.719 Growth, maybe you'll be able to see those things as well. 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:09.640 And I agree. 0:12:09.640 --> 0:12:11.720 I think that when you watch the Arizona and Cardinals, 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:14.800 they have a few receivers that really have issues making 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:17.839 catches through contact, which is why I really like a 0:12:17.880 --> 0:12:20.640 guy like Noah Abanagni to maybe get more snaps in. 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:22.960 This game, because that dude is a very physical cornerback. 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:25.679 Now, the trade off there, and you have to be 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:28.079 willing to accept this, is if he gets a significant 0:12:28.080 --> 0:12:30.280 amount of snaps, he's probably also going to get a 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:34.280 flagger two right from me physicality. But again, if you 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:35.920 did that's the brand of football you want to play. 0:12:35.920 --> 0:12:37.440 You have the stuff that sometimes you're going to get 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:40.240 those penalties, but if you can get into your opponent's 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:42.959 mind where maybe you're not even on cover, maybe Marvin 0:12:43.040 --> 0:12:45.200 is able to get some separation, but he can't see 0:12:45.240 --> 0:12:46.439 that he's that separation. 0:12:46.160 --> 0:12:48.400 And if he just thinks, say, you're probably there, that 0:12:48.480 --> 0:12:50.240 can impact the play as well. 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:52.559 So you know, those are all the things I think 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:55.200 that you know, they need to get better at than 0:12:55.320 --> 0:12:58.640 obviously a work in progress, but they're Joe, it's confident 0:12:58.679 --> 0:13:01.160 that they're getting there. Playing that poor and of Commander's defense, 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:03.360 and you know there are signs to say that perhaps 0:13:03.360 --> 0:13:06.719 they are. I'm interested to see how Emmanuel looks coming back, 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:08.480 if he does indeed get to get back on the 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:09.120 field this weekend. 0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:12.319 The Commanders are one of just four teams to have 0:13:12.520 --> 0:13:16.120 two or fewer turnovers. They joined the Raiders, the Titans, 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:18.360 and the Jaguars who have zero. So it always can 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:20.760 be worse, but one is not necessarily the greatest thing. 0:13:20.800 --> 0:13:22.839 We're gonna move on to the next question here, but 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:25.000 before we do that score update, you guys are tied 0:13:25.160 --> 0:13:27.400 five to five and points. I really like stuff you 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:29.520 you brought up, David about no egg bnogny and being 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:32.400 more physical. I really thought that Scott made a good 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:35.400 point about the turnovers. So but we're gonna flip onto 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:37.199 the other side of the field now and go to 0:13:37.240 --> 0:13:39.679 the offense because the Commanders have a big weapon that 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:43.400 they have lost with Austin Eckler into concussion protocol. This 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:47.360 guy is second in scrimmage charge for this team. He's 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:51.199 spent just a just production magnet. He's been able to 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:53.920 really kind of give a spark to this unit in 0:13:54.040 --> 0:13:55.760 ways that I think maybe a lot of people outside 0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:57.840 of the Commanders organization didn't really think that he could. 0:13:58.640 --> 0:14:02.000 So David, we'll start with you next. Now that Austin 0:14:02.080 --> 0:14:05.439 is out, who want office need to step up for 0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:08.280 to replace that production in week four? 0:14:08.760 --> 0:14:12.000 Yeah, you know, I actually asked Cliff that that almost 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:14.400 exact same question, and I like the way that he said, 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:16.280 you don't replace Austin Eckler, you know, but they've got 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:18.080 to come up with a way to kind of fill 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:21.200 in for him while he's out, and even though you 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:24.320 don't just one for one replace him. And I definitely agree, 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:26.440 especially when you look, you know, on the Dross, but 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:28.760 just across the NFL, like there's not really another Austin 0:14:28.840 --> 0:14:31.560 Eckler out there that's as effective as Austin has been, 0:14:31.640 --> 0:14:34.080 and he's certainly has been this season for the Commander, 0:14:34.160 --> 0:14:36.680 So I think trying to just fill in, right, Jeremy 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:38.640 and McNichols is kind of the low hanging crew, as 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:40.840 a name goes, But I also think that he provides 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:43.000 this dynamic that you know, you always want to keep 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:44.640 your opponents on their toes. 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:47.160 And I think when you have an offense that just 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:47.760 came off. 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:51.120 This you know, multi layered historic performance on Monday Uniting 0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:54.640 and Cincinnati Bengals, and you kind of see this evolution 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:57.680 of this of this team, like as Cliff Kingsbury and 0:14:57.760 --> 0:15:00.720 Jade Daniels have been able to together on role more 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:03.920 of their playbook and more of their dynamic ability on offense, 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:06.040 there has been kind of a path, right, Like you 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:07.880 go from week one to two and three and you 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:11.080 see this kind of natural progression of the offense. So 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:13.080 while every week looked a little bit different, and certainly 0:15:13.120 --> 0:15:16.320 the performances has obviously been a lot different, there is 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:19.760 a theme there. So bringing a guy like Jeremy McNichols, then, 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:22.640 while you would obviously much rather have Austin healthy, it 0:15:22.800 --> 0:15:25.440 gives you an opportunity to switch it up a little bit, 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:28.520 change the tempo, and make the Arizona Cardinals defend looks 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:30.400 that they haven't and make them defend a type of 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:32.760 running back to will with Bryan Robinson Junior and Jeremy 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:34.480 and McNichols that they haven't seen yet. 0:15:34.560 --> 0:15:37.960 So how did Cliff Kingsbury get them to kind of 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:40.040 dance off with each other? That's going to be really key. 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:41.520 And if they can come up with kind of a 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:44.760 new wrinkle, then the addition of Jeremy McNichols can actually 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:46.960 be turned into an advantage at least early on. I mean, 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:49.520 every defense was dounit just eventually if you can kind 0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:52.040 of get that early spart the air Lanvarnald are a 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:53.800 team that has known if they fall behind early, they 0:15:53.800 --> 0:15:57.120 will almost completely, but they will very significantly go away 0:15:57.480 --> 0:15:59.680 from James connerd. So if you can use your offense 0:15:59.720 --> 0:16:02.240 to help put pressure on their offense and do that 0:16:02.600 --> 0:16:05.400 and that only that, that simplifies their offense and makes 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:06.560 the defensive job you here. 0:16:06.880 --> 0:16:09.200 You know, I like Jeremy mc nichols. I liked him 0:16:09.200 --> 0:16:10.960 a Lotstin's training camp. I think he brings a lot 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:14.040 of unique things to this offense. And he played really well. 0:16:14.360 --> 0:16:17.080 Uh whenever Eckler went out, have that really good that 0:16:17.320 --> 0:16:20.400 good pass block that really helped set out the touchdown 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:21.560 from Jade to Terry. 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:22.040 Uh. 0:16:22.080 --> 0:16:24.320 But Scott A mcgoveror you next, and what you know? 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:27.440 I think you know obviously, like like if David said, 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:30.680 you can't really replace Eckler's production, But what about guys 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:33.840 like zach Ertzlut McCaffrey, some of these other weapons that 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:35.960 they have. Do you think they're gonna be able to 0:16:36.200 --> 0:16:38.520 get more snaps and more looks Now that you know 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:41.680 Eckler is going to be out for this week, it's. 0:16:41.680 --> 0:16:45.640 Time to unleash Luke McCaffrey. He took the words right 0:16:45.680 --> 0:16:47.800 out of my mouth. That dude is an athlete. He 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:51.360 used to play quarterback, transition to wide receiver. He's speedy, 0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:55.080 he's shifty. He could be that Swiss Army Knights type 0:16:55.120 --> 0:16:58.160 player that Austin Eckler is. You're not going to replace 0:16:58.160 --> 0:17:01.000 an Austin Eckler. Sure you can try to mimick. You 0:17:01.040 --> 0:17:04.360 can try to replicate with Luke McCaffrey. Line up, line 0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:09.639 them up all over, you know, the offense, outside, inside slot, 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:12.760 maybe put them out in the backfield, get get you know, 0:17:12.960 --> 0:17:16.680 creative with Luke mccafrey. Because again you talk about the pedigree, 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:18.560 the DNA of a Marvin Harrison Junior. 0:17:19.040 --> 0:17:19.480 Uh yeah. 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:23.160 Luke McCaffrey has that pedigree in DNA, so he can 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:27.159 be in that Austin Eckler type role. Also rely on 0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:30.920 your studs, guys. Rely on a Terry McLaurin, rely on 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:34.440 a Brian Robinson Junior, rely on a zach Ertz. Those 0:17:34.560 --> 0:17:38.120