1 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty. 3 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty, and he. 4 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 3: Armstrong and Getty Strong. 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What a couple 15 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 5: this sing how Canada was gonna exact their revenge for 16 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 5: the tariffs, and this is it. 17 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 2: They're taking our women. 18 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 5: They're not just taking our women, they're taking our astronauts. 19 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 3: That's a good joan, He's not an obnoxious, politically leaning Kim. 20 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 3: It's pretty funny taking our astronauts. 21 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 2: Wow, good joke. 22 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 4: Yes, So this is just yet more proof, as if 23 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 4: you needed it, that the whole green energy climate change 24 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 4: thing was a for profit scam. This is some great 25 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 4: writing Holman Jenkins, who I really enjoy. He's talking about, 26 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 4: you know, during the Obama years, they there was a 27 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 4: finding by the EPA. 28 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 2: I think it was that. 29 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 4: Carbon emissions that caused climate change threaten people's health, so 30 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 4: they could regulate it, like mercury in the rivers or 31 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 4: smog in the air. And he's writing about how thirty 32 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 4: nine scientists from various organizations just signed to find signed 33 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 4: a finding that in fact green greenhouse gases are in 34 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 4: fact a danger because the Trump administration EPA just said no, 35 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 4: they're not. So you got these thirty nine scientists anyway, 36 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 4: So to quote Jenkins, read on realize their book length 37 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 4: report is concocted for a bureaucratic and legalistic purpose, not 38 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 4: a scientific one. The finding in the Obama years came 39 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 4: to justify regulatory actions that have zero impact none on 40 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 4: climate change. Not only are US emissions too small a 41 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 4: share of the global total to matter in practice, EPA 42 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 4: actions mostly just drive US emissions off shore. 43 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:38,119 Speaker 2: Whatever they think. 44 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 4: The thirty nine scientists are part of a machine now 45 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 4: defending its own activity and privilege in one of the 46 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 4: biggest boondoggles in. 47 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 2: The history of policy making. 48 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 4: And then he points out and I was totally unaware 49 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 4: of this, Michael Moore, the fat progressive film directors. Why 50 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 4: would I take a shot at his body shape that 51 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 4: it helps us necessary? 52 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 3: I disagree. I think it wasn't this. I think it 53 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 3: helps describe who the person is for people who aren't sure. 54 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the fat progressive film documentary guy. 55 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, the judges will permit it, it will stand, 56 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 4: objection overruled. 57 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 2: Anyway. 58 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 3: He had a movie come out in twenty nineteen, Planet 59 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 3: of the Humans, and he says, remember that, of course 60 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 3: you don't. It was shadow banned by the left and 61 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 3: film distributors, not because it wasn't climate apocalyptic y enough. 62 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:30,519 Speaker 3: It was over the top on climate apocalyptics. It was 63 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 3: shadow band for pointing out that the US climate policy 64 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 3: was a fraud. Oh so, Michael, who actually believes this stuff? 65 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 3: Oh okay, so he actually believes climate change is a problem, 66 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 3: we need to worry about it, and that all the 67 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 3: stuff we're doing is fake and people need to know 68 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 3: that because you're not making a debt. Well, good for him, 69 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, that's better than knowingly lying like 70 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,839 Speaker 3: the al Gore crowd is doing right. 71 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 4: As Jenkins right, it consisted of colossal pork barrel spending 72 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 4: that was having no effect on the ellection problem. 73 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 2: That is amazing. 74 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 3: Michael Moore, one of the most revered documentary filmmakers of 75 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 3: the left ever, gets memory hold on eltros. 76 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. Wow, that's interesting. 77 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 4: They have Richard York at the University of Oregon seen 78 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 4: marveling in the film at the self willed blindness of 79 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 4: the US policy community to a simple question to clean 80 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 4: energy subsidies result in fossil fuels being displaced, he says. 81 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 3: In a voice of wonder. No, they don't even know 82 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 3: that that's the question. 83 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 4: It reminds me of when Californians found out that not 84 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 4: only was there no measure of how effective the bums 85 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 4: and junkies billions of dollars spent had been, there wasn't 86 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 4: even a mechanism to look into the question. And that's 87 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 4: what this guy's saying about the climate change stuff. 88 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,919 Speaker 3: I'm pretty optimistic that we're on the other side of 89 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 3: the whole trans issue and are going to go back 90 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 3: to it at its peak, you know, from a couple 91 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 3: of years ago where things were just off the rails. 92 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 2: But I don't. I don't have much faith that. 93 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 3: We'll get on the other side of the climate change 94 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 3: thing where people will start being honest. Do you think 95 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 3: maybe we're actually are head in that direction. 96 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 4: It's going to be a tough one because a lot 97 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 4: of people are completely convinced that what they have been 98 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 4: told is correct. Well, I met, and the left is 99 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 4: dedicated to keeping that. Then, yeah, I met. 100 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 3: More in terms of being honest about what things actually 101 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 3: are doing something and aren't doing something. I mean, to 102 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 3: Michael Moore's point, you need more people like him or 103 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 3: saying yeah, climate change is real, but the stuff we're 104 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 3: doing isn't doing anything. I'm not worried about climate change 105 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 3: the way he is, but none of these things are 106 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 3: doing any good. So what are we doing it for? 107 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 3: You combine people that don't believe in climate change with 108 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:59,239 Speaker 3: people who are honest about it but realize this stuff 109 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 3: is phony, and maybe we could kill it most of. 110 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 2: It right, because we can't. 111 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 3: Actually we can't actually do anything about it. Reality bats last, 112 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 3: as we often say. I feel good that it's moving 113 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 3: in that direction. There are a bunch of headlines actually 114 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 3: that the entire world. Europe is now put its electric 115 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 3: car in backward in reverse. When it comes to electric vehicles, 116 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 3: the whole world is saying, you know, this wasn't quite 117 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 3: what everybody is saying it was, including even China, which 118 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 3: leads the world in electric vehicle use and sales and 119 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 3: manufacture and. 120 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 2: The rest of it. 121 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 4: So I think, I think sanity is creeping into the issue. 122 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 4: But a couple of more stories real quickly, unless you 123 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 4: had more on that. I love the topic, But the 124 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 4: United Nations is about to tax you. If if you know, 125 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 4: the other stuff we've talked to about today hasn't boiled 126 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 4: your frog already, this. 127 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 2: Will global government voters. 128 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 4: Voters are showing their opposition to the net zero climate 129 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 4: agenda whenever they get the chance in the US and 130 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 4: increasingly in Europe. 131 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 2: It just doesn't make sense. People don't like it. 132 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,239 Speaker 4: But that isn't stopping the United Nations, which this week 133 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 4: is poised to impose what amounts to a global tax 134 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 4: on carbon emissions. And yes, if you're wondering, this is 135 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 4: the definition of taxation without representation. Here's how they're doing it. 136 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 4: The International Maritime Organization, a UN body based in London, 137 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 4: hopes that it's meeting this week to secure final approval 138 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 4: for its net zero framework for shipping, and it would 139 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 4: impose charges per metric ton of carbon dioxide that ships 140 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 4: emit above certain levels, and the tax would be several 141 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 4: hundred dollars per metric ton, depending on various factors. That 142 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 4: could translate to an annual tax take of ten to 143 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 4: twelve billion dollars. 144 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 3: And then see how many of the people behind that 145 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 3: new rule somehow profit from that. 146 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 2: But that's horrifying. So I mentioned that I listened to 147 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 2: a podcast. 148 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 4: And all the money would go to the UN. By 149 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 4: the way, oh lovely right. 150 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 3: I mentioned I was listened to a podcast out of 151 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 3: Great Britain talking about what a disaster their net zero. 152 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 3: They really took net zero seriously and just destroyed their 153 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 3: economy a lot of Europe did. 154 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 2: In fact, I got a. 155 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 3: Stat on that that I wanted to bring that I 156 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 3: came across Pohl. 157 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 4: Seventy five percent of Brits agree with the statement Britain 158 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 4: is broken seventy five percent just in. 159 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 2: General, not just around climate change stuff. 160 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean that selling out the economy to 161 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 4: that cult is one of the main drivers of unhappiness 162 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 4: and dissatisfaction of all of Europe. 163 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 3: Yesterday it was announced Ninvidia is worth more than the 164 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 3: entire German stock market. That one company, Mississippis. We had 165 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 3: this stat last week. Mississippi's per capita income is almost 166 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 3: the same as Germany's. So the most powerful economy in 167 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 3: Europe Germany is roughly the same is our poorest state 168 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 3: in the United States. 169 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 2: Yes, that is incredible. 170 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, And one thing we don't have a near enough 171 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 3: understanding of in this country is why we have such 172 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 3: an engine of creativity and growth. 173 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 2: It's called liberty, for God's sake. 174 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, we've been the richest country for a long time, 175 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 3: but not to this extent versus a relative to Europe, 176 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 3: and a lot of it is because of all that 177 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 3: climate change crap. They did so much climate change crap 178 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:31,359 Speaker 3: to just destroy their economies. 179 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 2: That's amazing. 180 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 3: Though our poorest state is as powerful as Germany. 181 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 2: It's incredible. Yeah. 182 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 4: It really is a final story that I wanted to 183 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 4: squeeze in because it's all kind of related. 184 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 3: Note to self by stock. In nuclear, here's the headline 185 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 3: for you. US Army plans to power bases with tiny 186 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 3: nuclear reactors. The Janus program fulfills Trump order to start 187 00:09:56,000 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 3: powering military installations with state of the art nuclear technology. 188 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 2: This is such a great idea. 189 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 4: Dang right time to go nuke, hey hippies with your 190 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 4: no nuke crap and your climate change bull s. 191 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 2: And I wish I could use the word your day 192 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 2: is done. Man. I just pray that that jd. 193 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 3: Vance wins the next election or whomever there's I mean, 194 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,959 Speaker 3: we got so far down the road to Crazyville. It's 195 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 3: going to take a minute or two to get our 196 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 3: way to find our way back to Sanity Town, or 197 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 3: at least Sanity Heights in the suburbs. 198 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: Jack Armstrong and Joe, the Armstrong and Getty Show, The 199 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getdy Show. 200 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 3: Just like hustling started, you know, just getting obsessed, you know, 201 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 3: sitting there with the you know, the wonderbread and five 202 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 3: stacks of a you know. 203 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 4: All right, So there was poor gavenwsome on a recent 204 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 4: podcast who knew he had grown up poor had to 205 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 4: hustle to stay alive, and the rest of it. Katie Grimes, 206 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 4: the Fabulous Katie Grimes with a spectacular takedown. 207 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 2: I knew, Devin, I knew. 208 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 3: I said that the other day, I said, she is 209 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 3: going to have such a rundown of his actual upbringing. 210 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 4: Oh, she probably had to calm herself down to start 211 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 4: writing this. 212 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 2: It is so rich. 213 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 4: It was about paying the bills Man wonderbread and mac 214 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 4: and cheese. That's how I grew up, bro. It was 215 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 4: just like hustling. I raised myself right. Gavin was a 216 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 4: latchkey kid. When Gavin was featured in a Children of 217 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 4: the Rich article in nineteen ninety one at the age 218 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 4: of twenty five, that pretty much put the latchkey kid 219 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 4: from the Larchmont Holmes tracked Housing Act to rest until 220 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 4: now as loose knew some longs to be America's next president. 221 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 2: Then she goes into how what was that? Sorry, it 222 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 2: made me cough. I swallowed my water. I hadn't heard 223 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 2: that one before. Children of the Rich article. 224 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 4: In nineteen ninety one at the age of twenty Wow, 225 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 4: his father, attorney for the billionaire Getty Oil Family Appeals 226 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 4: Court judge the rest of it. But Evan slept on 227 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,839 Speaker 4: a couch and ate Wonder. Breton raised himself and he 228 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 4: opened a winery at the age of twenty five. Newsome 229 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:12,559 Speaker 4: Man Investors. At the age of twenty five, Newsman Investors 230 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 4: created Plumpjack Associates LP with the help financial help of 231 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 4: Gordon Getty. 232 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:19,959 Speaker 2: In a two thousand and three article bringing up. 233 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 4: Baby Gavin in the SF Weekly magazine, it says Newsom's father, William, 234 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 4: was a judge and helped Gordon Getty get access to 235 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 4: the Getty family money. She writes, I've read the article 236 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 4: several times over the years, but it is no longer 237 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 4: available at SF Weekly. They took it down, but they 238 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 4: found an archive version posted it to Twitter. He even 239 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 4: helped Gordon Getty so his own father to get access 240 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 4: to the family trust. In return for these favors and 241 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 4: many others, Gordon Getty put him the father in charge 242 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 4: of managing a massive amount of money. Guess how Gavin 243 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 4: got the funds to start his fancy businesses at such 244 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 4: a young age. In ten of Gavin's first eleven businesses, 245 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 4: the primary money came from the Getty family, which is 246 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 4: intertwined with the Pelosi family by the way money. 247 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 3: I had read that while his dad did have access 248 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:14,119 Speaker 3: to blah blah blah because his parents divorced, that Gavin, 249 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 3: you know, grew up with his poor single mom trying 250 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 3: to make ends meet, etc. 251 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 4: No, No, the minute he was of age and again 252 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 4: he was a subject of Children of the Rich article, 253 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 4: and then he had all the money he could use 254 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 4: to finance all of his businesses the minute he was 255 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 4: an adult. So why lie about being a privileged kid? 256 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 4: Katie Grimes writes, because Gavin Newsom is inauthentic, phony and 257 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 4: specious to be polite, as well as a compulsive liar 258 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 4: to be a little harsh. Newtam's inauthenticity leads in but 259 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 4: compulsively lie to whomever he's speaking to a kind of pandering. 260 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 4: She mentions, when with Charlie Kirk, Newsom said he hinted 261 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 4: that he agreed with Kirk that biological men should not 262 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 4: playing women's sports, but then he did absolutely nothing about 263 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 4: it as the governor of the most egregious title on 264 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 4: via leading state in the country. 265 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 3: Maybe I don't speak Gavin well, but I didn't understand 266 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 3: what he said in that Charlie Kirk thing. I didn't 267 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 3: understand that clip we just played. I don't understand what 268 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 3: he was saying. He uses phrases the kind of hint 269 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 3: at something, but he never says anything. Well, you know, 270 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 3: I was out there running around, you know, and I 271 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 3: got the stacks of bread and what what are you 272 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 3: claiming here, I don't even know what you're saying. Rich 273 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 3: Lowry in the National Review, I asked, I'm sorry, it's 274 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 3: Jim Jim Garretty who's asking did Democrats really need a 275 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 3: white male version of Kamala Harris? 276 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 2: But it's worse than that. 277 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 4: How well do you envision Newsome connecting with all the 278 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 4: union voters in the Great Lake States? How about those 279 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 4: working class blue collar whites in North Carolina and Georgia 280 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 4: for that matter, Will Newsom, who banged his campaign manager's wife, 281 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 4: I had a nineteen year old girlfriend when he was 282 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 4: thirty nine, going to do better among women. When you 283 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,119 Speaker 4: see that photo of Newsom on the rug with Kimberly Gilfoyle, 284 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 4: do you say, yes, this is the kind of Democrat 285 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 4: candidate who going to resonate with African Americans and Latinos. 286 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 287 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 3: I always think that's a blind spot for Democrats, you know, 288 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 3: the coastal Democrats that they because I come from a 289 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 3: family of like everybody was a Democrat, but they were 290 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 3: all Firmer Democrats. They weren't Gavin Newsom sort of that 291 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 3: trans issues Democrats, and that's where Gavin's gonna really run. 292 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 4: Up rounds it, right, right, and then one final note 293 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 4: from Marcus Breton, who has been a columnist for the 294 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 4: Sacramento b I'm not sure he still is, and Marcos 295 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 4: always a decent guy, a man of good character. He's 296 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 4: a man of the left, and I frequently disagreed with 297 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 4: him vehemently, but he's a good man. He wrote this 298 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 4: in twenty eighteen, before Gavin was governor. If Gavin Newsom 299 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 4: elected governor of California without so much as a speed 300 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 4: bump on his political journey of entitlement, it may take 301 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 4: future social scientists to explain why current California voters were 302 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 4: so willing to give this guy a pass on all 303 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 4: of the things we know about him. 304 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 2: Can't you see this picture for what it really is. 305 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 2: The fifty year old. 306 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 4: Lieutenant governor and former mayor of San Francisco is the 307 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 4: living embodiment of privilege, and people seem to be okay 308 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 4: with that. He has white male privilege, class privilege, wealth privilege, 309 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 4: the privilege of good looks. All creates a teflon exterior 310 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 4: protecting Newsome's horrendous lapses of judgment and character, excusing his 311 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 4: questionable background. It is simply accepted without a listening the 312 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 4: negative scrutiny that would dog or even derail lesser mortals. 313 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 2: Wow, and that's from a lefty journalist. Yeah yeah. 314 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 4: And he talks about the connections to the rich, Geddy 315 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 4: and Pelosi families, how they pump money into everything he does, 316 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 4: and then his utter moral failings is he is. 317 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 3: The caricature hm, the sort of stereotype that people try 318 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 3: to plant on Republicans. Rich white, good looking guy connected, 319 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 3: you know, rose up through the ranks with no effort 320 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 3: whatsoever or talent. Right, But as a Democrat, he's gonna 321 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 3: try to pull off the I raised myself, you know, 322 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 3: stacks of bread. No, I don't know what do you 323 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 3: mean by the stacks of bread? What are you trying 324 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 3: to say back to Rich Lowry. 325 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 4: Don't you think there's a good chance Republicans will be 326 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 4: able to portray the Marine County mansion owning luxury, sweet 327 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 4: partying wine sipping newsome who always looks like a villain 328 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 4: from a RoboCop movie. It is an out of touch elitist. 329 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 4: Never mind the whole NAPA dinner in the middle of COVID. 330 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 4: It was an early dinner. We all feel sometimes, Oh 331 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 4: that is Gavin Ron. 332 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 2: The Armstrong and Getty Show, Yea or Jack Orgeo podcasts 333 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 2: and our hot links. 334 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 1: The Armstrong and Getty Show. 335 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 4: I love Matt Tayebi, who is a man of the left. 336 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 4: He's a brilliant writer. You know, he's one of those 337 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 4: guys I disagree with him about twenty five percent of 338 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,360 Speaker 4: the time, but his point of view is always intriguing. 339 00:17:55,800 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 4: And he's writing about that up in Maine with the 340 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 4: Nazi tattoo, but more about Zoran Mumdami. Because Matt grew 341 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 4: up in a comfortable Northeastern household and was sent to 342 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 4: expensive boarding schools, and then he hits the job market 343 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 4: and he realizes he had no skills at all having 344 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 4: gone through that sort of education. 345 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 3: That's really and his dad was a famous reporter for 346 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 3: CBS News, one of the newscasts I watched as a kid. 347 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 3: His dad I'm whoever tivy. So he grew up with 348 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 3: that lifestyle. But then he got out of college and thought, 349 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 3: what am I going to do? 350 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,199 Speaker 4: That's interesting, right, and he thought, yeah, I'd go with 351 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 4: the family business of journalism. But he hadn't really studied it, 352 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 4: so he had to start from the bottom. But here's 353 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 4: where it gets really interesting Across the next decade or 354 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 4: so of embarrassed residency abroad, because he went to live 355 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 4: in several foreign countries, I saw that real working class 356 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 4: people don't have the luxury to send their kids away 357 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 4: to whack themselves off in intellectual spas it's understood that 358 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 4: large percentages of young people will be needed to design 359 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 4: the next generation's roads, water treatment plants, refrigerators, etc. Living 360 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 4: in places like Mongolian who is Bekistan also introduced me 361 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 4: to the idea that less than extravagantly wealthy countries don't 362 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 4: have the luxury of sending class after class of their 363 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 4: best young minds through curricula devoted to deconstructing the core 364 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 4: premises of their society. In other words, in the rest 365 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 4: of the world, rational social planning not only results in 366 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 4: fewer kids studying pure theory, but the theorists those countries 367 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 4: do graduate are far less inclined to spend their lives 368 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 4: denouncing their home countries as forces of historical evil. 369 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 2: That's good. Yeah, it's a. 370 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 3: Luxury of the self ego grandizing rich to be self 371 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 3: hating and hate their countries. As I've said many times, 372 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 3: that's like the highest standard of showing how enlightened you 373 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 3: are spies, yourself, your country, your religion, the rest of it. 374 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 3: It's so you're you're so safe from attack from another country. 375 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 3: The water's so clean, the economy is so stable, the 376 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,479 Speaker 3: government is so stable. Because the government and all of 377 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 3: that has allowed you to decide this is a horrible country. 378 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 2: That's right, an interesting turnaround. That's a luxury. Yeah. 379 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 4: He goes on in countries where the bulk of people 380 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 4: have to be concerned with survival, getting enough to eat, 381 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 4: not being conquered by rival nations or revolutionaries, and holding 382 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,719 Speaker 4: crime and corruption to tolerable levels. Colleges don't teach kids 383 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 4: how they're citizens of oppressor nations that should probably be disbanded. 384 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 2: They certainly wouldn't do. 385 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 4: It if they lucked into the benefits of citizenship in 386 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 4: a country like the United States. 387 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 2: This country has problems, even serious ones. 388 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 4: But it's not like gangsters are setting up freelance toll 389 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 4: booths on I ninety five for West coasters. That's the 390 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 4: equivalent of I five on the East coast. Or the 391 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 4: strip stake you ordered at Ponderosa has a good chance 392 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 4: of being cat meat. The reference that amuse Jack a 393 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 4: great deal yesterday, and I'm not certain. 394 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 3: That that is a as solid as he. 395 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 2: Thinks, But they have atturneys moving along. 396 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 4: Citizens of countries that have known true suckage, including especially 397 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,719 Speaker 4: the ones with Marxist or Maoist histories, laugh at the 398 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 4: things Americans call problems. 399 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 2: The only people who think the system that. 400 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 4: To produce the richest, safest empire in history is essentially 401 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 4: unfixable are America's own wealthy, who's current disdain for their 402 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 4: own good fortune is like a political version of heroin Chic. 403 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, that is so damn true that crowd does not 404 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 3: realize how hard it is to turn around, or would 405 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 3: be to turn around if real corruption ever sets in 406 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 3: in your city, state, or federal government. 407 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 4: I wish it would immediately with socialism. Sure, Right now, 408 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 4: he turns his attention to mister Mamdani, the Marxist Islamist 409 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 4: who may well be the mayor of New York. 410 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 2: City or run man. 411 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 4: That's Zawn correct anyway, right, this is what we're seeing now, 412 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 4: in particular with the Mamdani campaign, which to a hilarious degree, 413 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 4: is manna from heaven for Trump. Mamdani is the face 414 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 4: of the new brand of socialism. That embraces the preamble 415 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 4: theme of the communist Manifesto, in which all of society 416 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 4: is divided into oppressor and oppressed. Illegal immigration isn't a 417 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 4: problem that needs to be contained in order to make 418 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 4: social programming for citizens affordable, as Bernie Sanders once believed 419 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 4: and probably still does, but because immigration laws are inherently oppressive. So, 420 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 4: as Mudami now proposes, let's spend one hundred and sixty 421 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 4: five million dollars making New York quote the strongest sanctuary 422 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 4: city in the country. Tybi goes on, let's not fix 423 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,959 Speaker 4: police violence by ending stats based enforcement, for instance, or 424 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 4: doing away with broken windows theory, but let's tweet things 425 00:22:55,119 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 4: like quote, queer liberation means defunding the police. Madie's he 426 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 4: no longer favors defunding, but be your own. 427 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 3: Judge, guys, is gonna end up mayor of the most 428 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 3: important city in the world with the slogan what was 429 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 3: that about that last? Queer liberation means defunding the police. 430 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 3: Queer liberation means defunding the police? 431 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 2: What the hell? And then he. 432 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 4: Quotes another journalist who's writing about it. In twenty twenty two, 433 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 4: Mom Donnie declared of his political career and again in 434 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 4: twenty twenty two. Friends, for me, there's no point in 435 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 4: doing this without the DSA. The Democratic Socialists of America 436 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 4: favor full amnesty for legal immigrants, all of them, including 437 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 4: the criminals, abolishment of the Senate, voting rights for non citizens, 438 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 4: and public ownership of major corporations. Since he won the nomination, 439 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 4: he has softened on some of these points, but remains 440 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 4: a DSA member and fan. New Yorkers can decide if 441 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 4: he's sincere. And I'll return to my frequently stated theme, 442 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 4: Marxist sly all the time because people don't expect somebody 443 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 4: to lie so clearly to their face. 444 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 2: He still believes all that stuff. Then we're getting toward 445 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 2: the end. 446 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 4: But then there's Mundami's Gamut, in which he decided to 447 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 4: speak to Muslims in New York, telling a story about 448 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 4: an aunt quote who stopped taking the subway after September 449 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 4: eleventh because she did not feel safe in her job, 450 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 4: and Taibi describes it some length. He lived in New 451 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 4: York City at that time, and he said there was 452 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,679 Speaker 4: an incredible level of enmity and cooperation between most of 453 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,719 Speaker 4: the cities Muslims and non Muslim residents, and the numbers 454 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 4: bear this out. New York has always been a liberal, 455 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 4: welcoming city always, And if I might depart for a moment, 456 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 4: and we talked about this briefly earlier, Mam Donnie was 457 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 4: talking about the victims of nine to eleven, and he 458 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:48,679 Speaker 4: spent zero time on the mommies and daddies' sons and 459 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 4: daughters who died in fire when those planes hit the building, 460 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 4: or the mommies and daddies who died and good honest, 461 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 4: hard work in people who died in the towers. Said 462 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 4: not a word about the NYPD and the NYFD, the 463 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 4: firefighters who gave us one of the greatest examples of 464 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 4: heroism in American history, said not a word. His only 465 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 4: tear was for his fictional aunt, who may have felt 466 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 4: somewhat nervous getting on the subway in her his job. 467 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 4: That's somemou Donnie's view of nine to eleven any way, 468 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 4: I will calm down momentarily. 469 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 2: All the people on those planes. 470 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 4: Anyway, for a likely future Muslim mayor of New York 471 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 4: to even remotely implied that Muslims in New York, where 472 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 4: victims of nine to eleven is infuriating lunacy. Unfortunately, it 473 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 4: fits the aforementioned oppressor and oppressed mindset, in which a 474 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 4: marginalized community always holds the moral high card over people 475 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 4: who built your roads, bridges and ports and put out 476 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:53,199 Speaker 4: your fires. Once you see attendees of seventy five thousand 477 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,919 Speaker 4: dollars boarding schools talking about the need to arm the 478 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 4: proletariat and a candidate for mayor of the world's financial 479 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 4: center talking about pH I've toned down the rhetoric on 480 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 4: seizing the means of production so that over time we 481 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 4: can bring people to that issue. 482 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 2: That's a quote. 483 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 4: It's lot were neo Marxist idiocies have been allowed to 484 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 4: gain a stronghold. 485 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 2: Go ahead, Jack, if you want to that is something. 486 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 2: There are quotes there I've not heard. 487 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 3: The mainstream media has done a bad job of covering 488 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 3: this guy because they sympathize with him. 489 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 4: Oh, it's clear neo Marxist idiocies have been allowed to 490 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 4: gain a stronghold. Only people who don't know how hard 491 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 4: it is to build a society think this way. But 492 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 4: the number of such people is growing, ironically because of 493 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 4: the educational system. 494 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 2: Well, this is being in mind. 495 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,719 Speaker 3: Very Burkyan screed from the left leaning tibe. 496 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,479 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, Finally, the liberal left in this country 497 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 4: used to be about searching for ways to moderate the 498 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 4: excesses of capitalism, creating more opportunities for social mobility, and 499 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 4: promoting tolerance and generosity. Instead we're in the quote upper 500 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 4: class twits promoting revolution space, a script with much which 501 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 4: most most of the rest of the world is sadly familiar. 502 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 4: Is there no defense against the ignorant rich God? That's 503 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 4: really really blank and tayeebe for the win. It's interesting 504 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 4: to me that he traveled the world and came away 505 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 4: with that. 506 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 2: That man. 507 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 3: We should really be lucky for our stable society because 508 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 3: it's really hard to get one going. Whereas most people 509 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 3: I know who travel the world, and it probably has 510 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,439 Speaker 3: a lot to do with like where you stay, what 511 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 3: you look at, what you choose to do when you're 512 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 3: in that country, they come away with these other places 513 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 3: are so much better. Why do we have to be 514 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 3: the way we are. I've been to all these different 515 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 3: countries and they're fantastic because you stay in a nice 516 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 3: hotel and need a nice restaurant and go to the 517 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 3: museum right right, and you overlook the fact that the 518 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,919 Speaker 3: United States has provided a military umbrella to free up 519 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 3: their social systems for decades now, in the mold of 520 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 3: the post WW two carnage, which is long since gone. 521 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know that. That's brilliant, absolutely brilliant stuff. Matt Taiebe, 522 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 4: I think you might get paywall. I'd love to post 523 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 4: this for you at Armstrong and Getty dot com. 524 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 2: We'll do it. 525 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 4: If you want to subscribe to his substack, you can 526 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 4: if you want. But that's brilliant. 527 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 3: The Burkean reference Edmund Burke, if you don't know that, 528 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 3: considered the father of modern conservatism. It's basically the idea 529 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 3: that if you have created a safe, stable society, don't 530 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 3: take that for granted. It is really really really hard 531 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 3: to do, and you start messing with it and it 532 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 3: could come apart quickly and take centuries or a thousand 533 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 3: years to build up again. And that's basically Matt Taybee 534 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 3: is saying to the whatever that last line was about 535 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 3: the comfortable rich, thinking that. 536 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 4: If there's no defense against the ignorant rich, were in 537 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 4: the upper class twits promoting revolution space. 538 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, you want to have a revolution against a safe, stable, happy, 539 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 3: most successful society in world history. 540 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 4: You idiots, the chances that what is created will be 541 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 4: far worse are ninety nine point eight out of hundred. 542 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: Jack Armstrong and Joe. 543 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 3: Armstrong and Getty show, We've been searching for a better 544 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 3: term to describe what's going on, because, as uh I'll 545 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 3: be sharing with you in a moment, that is a miss. 546 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 4: Well, it's a misnomer. Literally, it's a misnaming of the problem. 547 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 4: It's like, you know, somebody with a flu has a 548 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 4: catastrophic gunshot wound and the doctors just keep calling him 549 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 4: the flu patient and treating him for the flu. 550 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 2: It's not the problem. 551 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: Uh. 552 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 2: But this is from We'll just say, uh. 553 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,959 Speaker 3: Like, if someone had a heart attack with COVID and 554 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 3: you called it COVID, nobody would do that a COVID 555 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 3: death no, instead of bums and junkies. I like the 556 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 3: very accurate term transient drug addicts, Right's anonymous. I think 557 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 3: the most interesting take is this. That's really good, by 558 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 3: the way, Yeah, that's kind of what I say with 559 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 3: the kids the street people drug addicts. TDA is transient 560 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 3: drug addicts. Uh. 561 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 4: I think the most interesting take is this, we should 562 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 4: all we all agree we should help the homeless, i e. Productive, 563 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 4: law abiding people who fell on hard times. But we 564 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 4: spend so much money supporting the transient drug addicts that 565 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 4: we don't have enough to help the actual homeless. Anyone 566 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 4: who wants to help the homeless should agree that the 567 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 4: best way to have more resources to support the homeless 568 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 4: is to stop spending it on the transient drug addicts. 569 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 3: O the Yeah, yeah, clearly. And then this note again 570 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 3: from all or a lean anonymous. I'll share part of 571 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 3: it with you, although the whole thing's great. Says some 572 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 3: very nice things about the show. 573 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 4: You've got a way of breaking down complex issues with 574 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 4: refreshing common sense, like a breath of fresh air. 575 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 3: Thank you very much. I work with the homeless in 576 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 3: I don't see any reason I shouldn't mention the town. 577 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 3: This person wants to remain anonymous. 578 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 2: M is there need to mention the town? 579 00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 4: Significant sized city in cal Unicornia. There you go, and 580 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 4: he or she lists I think maybe he, I don't know, 581 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 4: uh lists the various places just about every street with 582 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 4: significant homeless encampments and quotes. 583 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 2: I was listening to you this morning yesterday. 584 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 4: Well, you were dropping truth bombs about the homeless on 585 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 4: the radio and I found myself yelling, yes, finally someone 586 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 4: gets it, because you're absolutely right. We don't have a 587 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 4: homeless problem. What we have is a drug problem. Big 588 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 4: keep in my mindless person works with these people every day. 589 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 590 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 3: The biggest problem I have with that praise is it 591 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 3: seemed obvious for quite some time that that's what's going on. 592 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 3: But yeah, eighty five percent of the folks I work 593 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 3: with are battling drug addiction. Eighty five percent, another ten 594 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 3: percent are mentally ill because of drug addiction. They're remaining 595 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 3: five percent they're just mentally ill and need confinement in 596 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 3: a place that can help them. What do we do 597 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 3: with people who ruined their brains because of drugs? I 598 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 3: guess you treat them like the mentally ill of it. 599 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess. 600 00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 4: While many homeless advocates and quotes argue that most homeless 601 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 4: individuals are simply struggling abused moms or families in need 602 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 4: of assistance. 603 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 2: Five pardon me, rent's too high. Oh yeah, we need control. 604 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 4: In my five years of experience working in the toughest 605 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 4: parts of my city, I have encountered only one such 606 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 4: family one Wow. The rest mostly middle aged men and 607 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 4: women trapped in a cycle of addiction, who will say 608 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 4: or do anything to feed their habit and the solutions 609 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 4: Again in quotes, we keep hearing about like tiny homes 610 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 4: are just band aids on bullet wounds. The county's current 611 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 4: plan is to build hundreds of tiny homes near particular location. 612 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 4: Unless there's a serious plan for dealing with addiction, you're 613 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 4: just creating a drug camp, of course, And by serious 614 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 4: plan I mean more than the tired old line we 615 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 4: hear that support services will be provided. Politicians love the 616 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 4: optics of tiny homes because people see something that looks 617 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 4: like actions solve the problem. But when the rules are 618 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 4: broken at the tiny home settlements, as they inevitably are, 619 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 4: these folks end up right back on the street. The 620 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 4: turnover rate is astounding. I don't know if anyone in 621 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 4: power is noticed, but drug addicts don't obey rules very well. 622 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 4: Add to the fact that it takes forty five days, 623 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 4: he has forty five days to have a person cleared 624 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 4: for intake services. Unfortunately, that's typically forty four days after 625 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 4: they've disappeared back into the fog. Why not force rehab, Jack, 626 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 4: You're gonna love this well. Rehab has a ninety four 627 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 4: percent failure rate the first time around, and politicians, no, 628 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 4: voters won't stomach a program that's nine hundred and forty 629 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 4: thousand dollars of failure for every million dollars spent. 630 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 2: Plus ninety percent. 631 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 4: Of addicts refuse services outright because it cuts into their 632 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 4: high time. Wow, so you're looking at a very small 633 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 4: percent who even agreed to give it a try, and 634 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 4: then ninety four percent fail. At least for context, thirty 635 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 4: five dollars can purchase an eight ball in Sacramento. 636 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 2: It's a measure of drugs. 637 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 4: Kids providing a high for several days, provided they do 638 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 4: not share. Five dollars keeps them high for a day. 639 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 4: All you people handing out cash at stoplights stop, they 640 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 4: use the cash to buy drugs. They throw the food away. 641 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 4: Addicts aren't known for huge appetites. Fine, I'll skip to 642 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 4: the final paragraph. Even though again this is all terrific. 643 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 4: If we want real change, we need drug courts back, 644 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 4: We need accountability, we need punishment. We need to stop 645 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 4: pretending this problem is something it's not. We need to 646 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 4: stop acting like a long term drug addict has the 647 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 4: same mental capacity and rights that everyone else does. Most 648 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 4: addicts will not seek help for their addiction until they've 649 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 4: reached the lowest point. It's just too easy and as 650 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 4: he made the point, cheap to stay high and there's 651 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 4: very little incentive for them to change. Interestingly, we have 652 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,360 Speaker 4: a chance to save them if they reach their lowest 653 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,720 Speaker 4: point within the first two years of their addiction. After 654 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 4: that decision, situation becomes unpredictable. 655 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 2: Thanks for keeping it real. Thank you. 656 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 3: I don't know how long it's going to take for 657 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 3: society to catch up with this, But so you look 658 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 3: at those people and you think, well, who would live 659 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 3: like that? You see somebody on a bridge and they're dirty, 660 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 3: and it's cold outside and they're under there and they're 661 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 3: drug addicts, and you think, well, they can't want to 662 00:34:59,640 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 3: do that. 663 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 2: Well they do. 664 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 3: It's hard for us to imagine looking at them that 665 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,839 Speaker 3: they want to do that as opposed to not do that, 666 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:07,720 Speaker 3: but they do today. 667 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 2: They want to. 668 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 3: And got so we got to all just you know, 669 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 3: take that in and understand that there are a lot 670 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 3: of people that once they're addicted, want to continue doing that. 671 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,479 Speaker 2: Somehow we need to blow up this notion. 672 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 3: Maybe that's these intervention shows or whatever, but somehow we 673 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 3: need to blow up this notion that if there is 674 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 3: a rehab, you can put them in there and fix them. 675 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 2: I don't know where that came from. That idea. 676 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 3: It's never been true, it's not true now, it never 677 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 3: will be true. So we got to blow up that 678 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 3: idea too. Yeah, they're batting. Average is catastrophically low. People 679 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 3: don't understand that. You know, you can't be cynical enough 680 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 3: about this. What government does is it identifies problems, real 681 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 3: and imagined, and then spreads money out to buy votes 682 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:57,959 Speaker 3: and influence. That's what it does. 683 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 2: And Getty