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Speaker 3: All right, here's what I want to start today.
Speaker 5: Two people on our panel had the privilege yesterday of
Speaker 5: being able to interview one Dakota Prescott and uh and
Speaker 5: so I wanted to start there.
Speaker 3: I want to talk a little bit about about Dak.
Speaker 5: And the first thing I want to do is just
Speaker 5: for fan there who've never obviously had the opportunity to
Speaker 5: meet Dak, spend time with Dak. I won't you guys
Speaker 5: just talk about your impressions of Dak just as a
Speaker 5: person you get an opportunity to sit down with him
Speaker 5: and get a chance to talk to him. What are
Speaker 5: your thoughts on on Dak just as the man Dak Prescott.
Speaker 9: Ladies, First, I mean he's as great as you can
Speaker 9: get for a spokesperson. I mean, he's just absolutely perfect
Speaker 9: everything you would want your starting quarterback to be. When
Speaker 9: he comes to cameras and lights, he's he's just great.
Speaker 9: He always have a great answer, has a great answer.
Speaker 9: He can tell you whatever you want. He won't avoid
Speaker 9: the question. He'll be smart about it and answer it
Speaker 9: his own way. So he's he's just great. Tell us
Speaker 9: your impression, Patrick, I mean, before we get into what
Speaker 9: we got out.
Speaker 10: There, just like you said, he's he is the definitive
Speaker 10: face of any franchise, let alone the Dallas Cowboys, and
Speaker 10: he is one of the better ambassadors of the game
Speaker 10: of football. How he carries himself, you know, not only
Speaker 10: in his performances on the field, which we'll get into obviously,
Speaker 10: but off of the field, he's the consummate professional.
Speaker 3: He didn't win the.
Speaker 10: Walter Peyton Man of the Year a war by accident.
Speaker 10: This is a fantastic human being with a big heart,
Speaker 10: well spoken, very intellectual, and we had some fun when
Speaker 10: our interviews yesterday because Dak knows the game, so he
Speaker 10: knows how to have some prepackaged answers. But we were
Speaker 10: able to kind of break through that and get to
Speaker 10: the inside of the inside for Dak, So something that fans.
Speaker 3: Can look forward to always the key go ahead, Brian.
Speaker 7: For that. You know.
Speaker 8: The thing with we have Dak on one O, five
Speaker 8: to three fan today, so looking forward to our My
Speaker 8: reflections of the times I've gotten a visit with him.
Speaker 7: Is how polished he is.
Speaker 8: But one of the fun Dak's got a really good
Speaker 8: sense of humor. And we asked him a question last year, like, okay,
Speaker 8: quarterbacks always have answers about Team X, and so we
Speaker 8: made up a fictional football team, remember that, And we
Speaker 8: asked him, tell us about Team X. And Dak, look,
Speaker 8: he's gun. Team X is well coached, they're well the
Speaker 8: other they're prepared, their players are outstanding. You know, if
Speaker 8: you don't deal with Team X this way, they're going
Speaker 8: to cause you problems. So it just showed you the
Speaker 8: side of like because the question was as quarterbacks, you
Speaker 8: do have prepared thoughts and answers and stuff, and he goes, oh, absolutely,
Speaker 8: So we brought Team X into play and he described
Speaker 8: Team X like he was preparing for the Philadelphia Eagles,
Speaker 8: and it's it just shows you he's got a really
Speaker 8: good sense of humor. He handles things very well when
Speaker 8: you ask him questions, and you could go a large
Speaker 8: range of topics, the charity work he does, the football
Speaker 8: side of things.
Speaker 7: You know, there's just a wide scope of things.
Speaker 3: He loves sports.
Speaker 7: He's always involved with other local teams.
Speaker 8: You could talk to him about that and and he
Speaker 8: responds very very well.
Speaker 7: It's a it's a pleasure to get to talk to him.
Speaker 3: What would you guys say?
Speaker 5: I know I talk a lot about Dak's leadership, and
Speaker 5: I think everybody talks about his leadership being one of
Speaker 5: the truly great attributes that he has. Outside of that,
Speaker 5: if you look at him just as a player, as
Speaker 5: a quarterback, what skill do you think stands out most
Speaker 5: to you?
Speaker 3: As?
Speaker 5: This is what Dak does extremely well. This is his superpower.
Speaker 8: I think he handles adversity better than anybody I've seen.
Speaker 8: You know, when you look at the things that happens,
Speaker 8: he he never gets too high or too low. And
Speaker 8: when things happen during games, you can see in his
Speaker 8: ability to bounce back, you know, and fight through things.
Speaker 8: I think that's just the way he's been brought up.
Speaker 8: You know, there's been adversity throughout his life, and there's
Speaker 8: been a lot of joy in his life too, but
Speaker 8: he doesn't seem to just get bogged down when things
Speaker 8: aren't good.
Speaker 7: He finds a.
Speaker 8: Way to turn a bad situation into a good situation.
Speaker 8: And I think that's his just the fortitude, the ability
Speaker 8: just to take things and put it behind him and
Speaker 8: keep going forward.
Speaker 7: Think is one of the superpower traits that.
Speaker 10: I think I really appreciate about him, I do think,
Speaker 10: and that's the same for me. His resiliency, which is
Speaker 10: why for me, that was just such an appropriate creed
Speaker 10: for the Cowboys last season because Dak Prescott time and
Speaker 10: time again on and off the field, he's shown resiliency.
Speaker 10: Like Brian is saying, you look at you know, the
Speaker 10: loss of his mom to cancer and the loss of
Speaker 10: his brother to suicide, and you know, he is now
Speaker 10: embracing mental health and mental health awareness and understanding ways
Speaker 10: to become stronger from the things that happened to him,
Speaker 10: and then it transfers itself to the locker room and
Speaker 10: on the field. One of the best answers he said
Speaker 10: yesterday when he was asked what word does he hate
Speaker 10: the most, he said, can't And that really resonated with me.
Speaker 10: And that's the kind of you know, guy that you
Speaker 10: want lead in your locker room.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean his confidence and he goes back to
Speaker 9: everything that you guys are saying. He's just a guy
Speaker 9: that does despite everything thing, seems to not lose his confidence.
Speaker 9: Maybe behind doors, but when he comes out of his room,
Speaker 9: his house, he puts on that face and just keeps
Speaker 9: going at it. The type of phase that you want
Speaker 9: to follow, the type of guy you want to follow
Speaker 9: into me one of the most impressive things. And I
Speaker 9: think we can all agree on this as far as like,
Speaker 9: despite us having to come and do shows and report
Speaker 9: on the team, criticize, analyze and evaluate everything, we still
Speaker 9: root for the guy. We're still all in with him.
Speaker 9: And I think his teammates, coaches, everybody, you throw an interception, whatever,
Speaker 9: everybody's still gonna go out there and fight and root
Speaker 9: for him and do what they can to make him better.
Speaker 9: So I think that's a big thing that goes back
Speaker 9: to leadership. I can't even say that word leadership correct.
Speaker 9: And you just want to follow the guy in root
Speaker 9: for it, and I get all the criticism and all that,
Speaker 9: And as far as skills and on the field, but
Speaker 9: it's hard to hate on a person that you know
Speaker 9: is fighting for you and give it them all to.
Speaker 10: That point, And we're getting a lot of those comments
Speaker 10: from the interview that we did yesterday, Ambar. There are
Speaker 10: die hard born and bred Cowboys rivals that are telling us, God,
Speaker 10: I hate the Cowboys, but it's so hard to hate
Speaker 10: Dak Prescott. It's it's so hard to hate him as
Speaker 10: a man, to hate him as a human being. So
Speaker 10: to your point, a bar like this is that's the
Speaker 10: kind of guy he is, to the point where he
Speaker 10: wins over at least off the field, he wins over
Speaker 10: fan bases of rival teams.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's hard to root against good people, right. I
Speaker 6: find the same thing with Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 5: I can't stand the Eagles, but I actually like Jalen Hurts,
Speaker 5: and so it's hard. It's hard to root against people
Speaker 5: that you think of good people, or at least.
Speaker 8: You think, right, are you taking this angle because of
Speaker 8: what the national media has gone with so far, But
Speaker 8: at the last couple of days without Dak.
Speaker 7: And maybe him and Digs getting into it a little.
Speaker 5: Bit, No, you know, actually I wanted to actually want
Speaker 5: to bring that up to you guys, because I do think.
Speaker 8: I think that's unfortunate, and if yeah, let me take that,
Speaker 8: if I could, let me give these national media members
Speaker 8: a little bit of advice, Skiff. If you want to
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Speaker 8: the other NFL teams. Follow these guys. Follow Dallascowboys dot com.
Speaker 8: Watch your All twenty two tape. Know everything in your
Speaker 8: power about this football team and you'll find ways because
Speaker 8: every time we turn on the TV it's a Dallas
Speaker 8: Cowboys related segment. Learn about this football team. Learn about
Speaker 8: what you're talking about. You know there's people in camp
Speaker 8: what we're talking about right now about Dak Prescott and Diggs.
Speaker 8: It's a competitive situation out this guy is a leader.
Speaker 8: There is no division among, no hatred among It's all
Speaker 8: going at each other. It's being competitive and that's the situation.
Speaker 8: As a national media member. Learn about this team. You
Speaker 8: do far better work on your job. Nobody really cares
Speaker 8: about the Seahawks or the Buccaneers because all you guys
Speaker 8: do is talk about the Dallas Cowboys. Find a way
Speaker 8: to learn about the team. These guys work right here
Speaker 8: and listen.
Speaker 3: Don't hear it out.
Speaker 10: Don't hot take for engagement, because what I find the
Speaker 10: thing that's problematic for me is those that know better
Speaker 10: aren't doing better when it comes to commenting on.
Speaker 7: Things like this, but they don't understand.
Speaker 10: So for example, if you've ever done anything competitively, we
Speaker 10: could say if you've ever played competitive sports, but it's
Speaker 10: it's even bigger than that, because if.
Speaker 3: You play me in spade, you could be my brother.
Speaker 10: And the things that I say I can't say in
Speaker 10: church when we're playing cards, let alone the things I've
Speaker 10: said the teammates on baseball diamond, on the football field
Speaker 10: and on the basketball court when you're you know, one
Speaker 10: on one. It's it's all about the culture that's established
Speaker 10: and the culture that's established here by McCarthy and Dak
Speaker 10: and kind of perpetuated.
Speaker 3: It's fantastic. It's solidarity. They're going to go at each other.
Speaker 10: It's happening in training camps all across the NFL.
Speaker 3: That point, all across the NFL.
Speaker 10: You better be questioned, you better be questioning competitiveness, perfectly,
Speaker 10: said Derek. You can't have it both ways because if
Speaker 10: you didn't have the chippiness, then the narrative would be
Speaker 10: where then they're soft compete, they're soft, they're not ready
Speaker 10: to contend. But then they get the chippiness and all
Speaker 10: of a sudden, it's oh, it's divisive. They don't respect
Speaker 10: each other. They absolutely respect each other. So look to
Speaker 10: Brian's point, learn how the game is played, Learn how
Speaker 10: players prepare for the game, and at the end of
Speaker 10: the day, understand when you put a bunch of alpha
Speaker 10: males in a small space, put on some pats and
Speaker 10: say go hit each other, you're gonna get those.
Speaker 3: Types of things.
Speaker 10: But after practice, Trayvon, Dak, Trayvon and whomever, Dak and
Speaker 10: Jiron curse, they're all it's all brothers.
Speaker 3: And we know that being here because we see.
Speaker 10: Them walking around so single day. So know what you're
Speaker 10: talking about, or don't talk at all.
Speaker 9: It's just the same one. You with family members, friends,
Speaker 9: you're at home playing board games, any type of game,
Speaker 9: you're gonna be cussing each other out.
Speaker 3: It happens.
Speaker 9: You got that you're like, you want to just slap somebody,
Speaker 9: just you cheated, or no, you alone, that's playing. No
Speaker 9: you you know, don't play you know with me, I
Speaker 9: will beat you up, Like I understand.
Speaker 8: Sometimes the battleship, I leave the submarine all four downs.
Speaker 7: Win the game for you out there that way. Sometimes
Speaker 7: it's in dry dock, you know.
Speaker 10: Sometimes listen now, I know I want to hit through
Speaker 10: the draw force so I can get the real But
Speaker 10: it's the same thing.
Speaker 9: And after the game is over whatever, y'all go back
Speaker 9: to being friends and it's all good.
Speaker 5: And so this is as old as time. I remember
Speaker 5: growing up with my grandfather.
Speaker 3: He had like, he had twelve brothers and sisters.
Speaker 5: So when we get together family, family get together, there's
Speaker 5: a lot of people. He and his brother sit down
Speaker 5: and play dominoes. And I tell you, when I tell you,
Speaker 5: some of the words I've learned in my life that
Speaker 5: I probably shouldn't be saying, or learned listening to them
Speaker 5: talking to each other about that domino game. And it
Speaker 5: didn't mean they didn't love each other. It didn't mean
Speaker 5: they weren't brothers. It meant they were competing. And sometimes
Speaker 5: competitiveness has a way of bringing that out of you,
Speaker 5: and that's just a part of it. So I think
Speaker 5: I think that whole conversation is somewhat silly. And anybody
Speaker 5: that has that says that has either never competed or
Speaker 5: doesn't remember what it's like to compete, so they're just
Speaker 5: kind of throwing stuff out there to just make some
Speaker 5: news that you say, to create some but ben.
Speaker 8: Some players that have competed, you know, I mean Shady
Speaker 8: McCoy and I'm talking to you right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we talk about me. That's click bait.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you've maybe competed at a very high level. You're
Speaker 7: you be, You're an outstanding.
Speaker 10: Production in the room conversation. Here's what you say to
Speaker 10: drive engagement. Even if he's like, well, I don't really,
Speaker 10: it doesn't matter. Here's what we need you to say,
Speaker 10: and then he goes out with it.
Speaker 8: But then then but then again, it's very frustrating for
Speaker 8: people who were with the team every day. Like Derek
Speaker 8: says that why are we answering these questions?
Speaker 3: And here I am.
Speaker 7: I just took seven minutes to talk about something. But
Speaker 7: it's just if.
Speaker 8: You really are good at if you really want to
Speaker 8: be good at your job in NFL network or whatever,
Speaker 8: learn about this football team. Follow people learn about this team,
Speaker 8: because that seems like the only thing you guys talk
Speaker 8: about now every day, you know, they talk to me.
Speaker 8: I mean, it's like Women's the Women's World Cup soccer,
Speaker 8: and Dak's thirtieth birthday.
Speaker 7: I got that the other day Sports Center.
Speaker 10: And my final point on it to your point there
Speaker 10: in those games of domino bones, when they're playing those
Speaker 10: and they're going at it and there locked horns, let
Speaker 10: someone from outside the family walk up to that table
Speaker 10: and talk noise about either one of them.
Speaker 3: Right, how quickly? How quickly does the unity then come
Speaker 3: into play and it all then gets focused? Correct?
Speaker 10: So, ladies and gentlemen, if you think there's a problem
Speaker 10: between treyvon Diggs and dek and there isn't, I want
Speaker 10: you to understand that when the opposition pulls up, it
Speaker 10: all gets focused and chatteled in one direction.
Speaker 3: And that's across the line of scrimmage. All right, we're
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Speaker 5: some standout players, uh from some of this the practices
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Speaker 5: let's get some standout moments. What have you guys seen
Speaker 5: in some of the last couple of practices, particularly, uh,
Speaker 5: the practice on Wednesday, I'm sorry, Tuesday when it was padded.
Speaker 6: What have you guys seen some standout moments, standout players?
Speaker 3: Really? Sorry?
Speaker 7: Yeah, thank you real quick. I'll try the I think.
Speaker 8: The two to two point period, the two point plays
Speaker 8: offense was five for five anyway, man, some really nice design,
Speaker 8: some drive picks, uh, some you know, there were some
Speaker 8: times and this was the defense. This is dan Quinn's defense.
Speaker 8: He put his guys out there to try and make
Speaker 8: some plays. They didn't cover well enough, they didn't get
Speaker 8: any pressure. The protection was outstanding. There were guys that
Speaker 8: were running open. If you want to say, really good
Speaker 8: for the offense, but really really bad for the defense.
Speaker 8: When it came to defending that, and then and then
Speaker 8: the offense kind of carried it over to the red
Speaker 8: zone stuff where they were able to make.
Speaker 7: Some places a little bit more pressure.
Speaker 8: Dak had to move around a little bit more, but
Speaker 8: the guys did a good job of working the back
Speaker 8: of the end zone. But that two point period where
Speaker 8: they went five for five, boy, they gave me hope
Speaker 8: because not only this are two point plays, but those
Speaker 8: are plays inside the inside the five yard line that
Speaker 8: they could go to if they had to say, Hey,
Speaker 8: we need our best play right here to maybe score.
Speaker 8: Get Jake Ferguson in the flat with nobody covering him,
Speaker 8: or throw the ball deduce fawn on the little little
Speaker 8: out there, you know, little route.
Speaker 7: He runs the outside. So good job by the offense. Defense.
Speaker 7: That film will show you need to pick things up
Speaker 7: a little bit.
Speaker 10: Absolutely, and I will say this about the defense. The
Speaker 10: return of Trevon Diggs was his present was felt in
Speaker 10: that second padded practice and not just verbally, but you know,
Speaker 10: definitely on the field as well, because one of my I.
Speaker 9: Didn't having to watch from this for a couple of
Speaker 9: days and dying to.
Speaker 3: Be in there.
Speaker 10: Oh yes, he showed that exact energy. He got in there,
Speaker 10: had a little bit of a slow start. I think
Speaker 10: maybe he was kind of feeling out the toe, make
Speaker 10: sure he was good.
Speaker 3: But when he got going, he was going.
Speaker 10: And my point being, Cavante Turpin was one who really
Speaker 10: stood out for me, and he continues to stand out.
Speaker 10: But Cavante Turpin learned the closing speed of Trevon Diggs
Speaker 10: on that flat route in the two minute drill and
Speaker 10: that red zone drill where you think, well, Dak's got this,
Speaker 10: this is another touchdown. Turpin had a touchdown earlier in
Speaker 10: that set. But here comes Diggs streaking across the field
Speaker 10: just out of nowhere. Bound break breaks up the pass
Speaker 10: and that's what led to the clip that went viral.
Speaker 10: But Diggs, he's back, don't worry about his toe. He
Speaker 10: looks fantastic. But Cavante Turpin continues to make it difficult
Speaker 10: in that competition and trying to figure out, well, if
Speaker 10: if Cavante is learning the playbook like this and he
Speaker 10: is earning offensive reps, what's the challenge of now getting
Speaker 10: a guy like duce Vaughan involved as well. But to
Speaker 10: Brian's point, Dak Prescott looked surgical and that drill five
Speaker 10: for five and ceede Lamb. I feel like it's a
Speaker 10: combination of him taking the next step and having the
Speaker 10: confidence being built from last season. But I think it's
Speaker 10: also adding Brandon Cooks to the mix and they really
Speaker 10: are just playing off of each other. You will rarely
Speaker 10: see Cooks make a play without Lamb making the next play,
Speaker 10: or vice versas Lamb makes the play, Cooks makes the play,
Speaker 10: and then that elevates guys like Michael Gallup, Jalen Tobert,
Speaker 10: some of these young guys Mareno Crawford, Jalen Brooks. He's
Speaker 10: coming on strong as well. Brooks is stacking good days.
Speaker 10: So this offense, I know a lot of people came
Speaker 10: into this training camp thinking they are knowing how good
Speaker 10: this defense can be. They wanted to know what the
Speaker 10: offense can be. We're seeing what the offense can be,
Speaker 10: and we're seeing what it can be under Mike McCarthy
Speaker 10: as a play caller. It's difficult if Michael Parsons isn't
Speaker 10: in that backfield the offense, if they have any amount
Speaker 10: of time to make a play, they're making plays.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I will throw out this out real quick though.
Speaker 5: One thing we talked about you and not talk about
Speaker 5: when we're standing up of watching practice the other day.
Speaker 5: There are so many times that the play gets complete
Speaker 5: its clutch, Michael Parsons, and that may have never been
Speaker 5: a play if it were a real game.
Speaker 6: That's something to keep an eye. Certainly a good thing.
Speaker 5: For the Cowboys defense, for the Cowboys offense, though you
Speaker 5: have to start winning.
Speaker 3: It's hard to tell are you're.
Speaker 5: Really gonna get to that pass because it may have
Speaker 5: gotten busted up in the.
Speaker 8: Times where I felt like that the Traders would be
Speaker 8: running on the field with a spatula to get back
Speaker 8: some moments where that number eleven is shown up really
Speaker 8: quick and tagged off.
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, exactly, go ahead, Amber, I'm sorry, Oh no,
Speaker 3: you're good.
Speaker 9: Well to Patrick's point, actually, I talked to when we
Speaker 9: talked to Dyk yesterday, I did ask him about Cooks
Speaker 9: becoming to him what it looks like a security blanket.
Speaker 9: Every throw is a catch boom boom boom connect him
Speaker 9: every single time. And he did say that, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 9: But at the same time he feels the same way
Speaker 9: about a lot of these guys. So and you can
Speaker 9: see that on here. And he said, how with Mike McCarthy,
Speaker 9: one of the things they're trying to do is just
Speaker 9: get rid of the ball quicker faster, but also being
Speaker 9: on the same page with the receivers. I was gonna
Speaker 9: point out, and I know we keep talking about this
Speaker 9: guy specifically, but Duce Vaughan, there's no way he doesn't
Speaker 9: make the team. I mean, they're working him. It's they're
Speaker 9: really using him a lot, and he's taking advantage of
Speaker 9: all those reps. You can see again we're not really
Speaker 9: seeing that full like game day type of tackles because
Speaker 9: there are times that he would have been on the ground,
Speaker 9: but he he's just impressive to see how much they're
Speaker 9: really putting him to work out here. And last thing
Speaker 9: I wanted to mention back to Dak's leadership. Something that
Speaker 9: I saw two days ago was the way he was
Speaker 9: reacting to Hendershot. Hendershot has been kind of up and down.
Speaker 9: It seems to be getting in his head a little bit.
Speaker 9: Had a drop that was right to him, and you
Speaker 9: can see just a reaction like hey no, man, like
Speaker 9: just keep at it, you know, the way he kind
Speaker 9: of lifts him up and he came back sure enough.
Speaker 9: A couple plays later, he caught that ball and it's
Speaker 9: just those things that you want to see. But talking
Speaker 9: about the tight ends, hender Shot is one of those
Speaker 9: guys that has kind of been up and down throughout camp.
Speaker 8: Bra.
Speaker 7: Now, can I ask you guys a question real quick?
Speaker 8: Sure, Okay, we're talking about Tulbert and Tilbert's also been receivers,
Speaker 8: has been good, But do you feel like though that
Speaker 8: you've seen really.
Speaker 7: With Brooks and Turbin, have they been better?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Real quick question. Actually, what I wanted to do.
Speaker 7: Because I'm trying to figure out if it's going to
Speaker 7: be five or six.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what I.
Speaker 5: Wanted to do was because I think there is some
Speaker 5: thought out there as you watch the practices that there
Speaker 5: may be some jockeying for position there you know who the.
Speaker 3: Top two are.
Speaker 6: I think there could even be arguments made like do
Speaker 6: you really.
Speaker 3: Know who the three is?
Speaker 5: Necessarily, But what I wanted to do is I wanted
Speaker 5: to toss this question to you guys right now, based on.
Speaker 6: What it's about to happen, based on what you've seen.
Speaker 5: I want you to give me in order in order
Speaker 5: top six wide receivers on this team.
Speaker 10: Okay, I'll I'll jump out in front of the train.
Speaker 10: First ceed Lamb.
Speaker 7: Hopefully goes off the track.
Speaker 5: We'll see everybody get those first two or three Ceedee.
Speaker 10: Lamb, Brandon Cooks, Michael Gallup. That's the easy, no matter
Speaker 10: what order you put them in. From what I'm seeing,
Speaker 10: Jaylen Tobart at four. From what I'm seeing Jayalen Tobart,
Speaker 10: see now here, here we go. I gotta have turping
Speaker 10: in there. So he's one of my five.
Speaker 3: You got one more. I don't want to be a
Speaker 3: prisoner of them moment.
Speaker 10: Because first yeah, first, first it was Mareno Cropper, but
Speaker 10: then now he's.
Speaker 3: So that's what I mean. Okay, I'm gonna give Wow.
Speaker 10: But then it's Jalen brook But then it's Jalen Brooks
Speaker 10: versus Semi for Hoko.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that's the one that's in trouble.
Speaker 10: Just as we have as we have this conversation as.
Speaker 7: It stands right now, as we live today.
Speaker 10: I'm gonna go I'm gonna go for for Hoko as
Speaker 10: my final as we have this conversation right now, let's
Speaker 10: see if Brooks can continue to build because we for
Speaker 10: Hoko has leverage, he has time in the system. Let's
Speaker 10: see if so, I'm gonna go for Hoko, I'm gonna
Speaker 10: go to the Amber. Next, I'm gonna save you for last.
Speaker 9: Brian, No, go ahead, Bryan the asp for over.
Speaker 8: Here, Lamb Cooks, Gallop Brooks, and then I would go,
Speaker 8: and then I would go I think then I would
Speaker 8: go Turpin and then Tolbert last.
Speaker 6: Okay, but he's still in the sixth.
Speaker 7: He's still in the sixth. That's what I'm trying to think.
Speaker 8: I think, I think right now Semi fajoco and I
Speaker 8: know he's a little nicked up right now, and but
Speaker 8: as we sit right now, I'm I'm just I kind
Speaker 8: of feel like that that Brooks is showing like again,
Speaker 8: this is a this is a tradition we have at
Speaker 8: training gim that the Lance Lenores and others show up,
Speaker 8: you know, Tennis Houston show up, and you know, you
Speaker 8: hope that they could get through the preseason games. But
Speaker 8: it's amazing to me what Brooks and Turpin had been
Speaker 8: able to do. And I think it's a battle right
Speaker 8: now with with Tolbert and where he's really really at okay.
Speaker 9: See to me, based on performance wise alone of what
Speaker 9: has happened in the past week, justify everything, Yes, based
Speaker 9: on experience with the team and where they were drafted,
Speaker 9: how they were acquired, anything like that. Based on performance,
Speaker 9: to me, it would be been then Brooks and then
Speaker 9: Tolber in that order. Turpin he's been I know he
Speaker 9: missed a couple was it a couple of days because
Speaker 9: of the birth of a girl, a girl had a girl.
Speaker 9: But the way he impressed me, he just showed up
Speaker 9: and did not miss a single beat. And he's been fast,
Speaker 9: he's been quick, and he's been catching my attention, and
Speaker 9: I hope they really get a lot of use of
Speaker 9: him on the offense this year.
Speaker 8: And he chanced that the one from four to five
Speaker 8: or six could be better than three.
Speaker 3: Well, that was where I was kind of shocked.
Speaker 5: I actually thought at least one of you guys would
Speaker 5: put Turpin above Gallay at this point, because in my opinion,
Speaker 5: I think he has been a little more impressive about here.
Speaker 3: It might you know, training.
Speaker 5: Camp can be deceiving, It can be about who you're
Speaker 5: matched up against.
Speaker 3: You know, Turpin could be getting a lot of second
Speaker 3: team We know how that goes, right, So I.
Speaker 5: Think you got to factor that in some But but
Speaker 5: I would say, like I have noticed Turpin more that
Speaker 5: I've not I Gallop out here.
Speaker 8: I noticed Gallop when they went the two point play
Speaker 8: in the red zone stuff. That's kind of where I
Speaker 8: was noticing him.
Speaker 6: And it doesn't mean no, no, no, I don't know. It
Speaker 6: just means I've noticed Turpin.
Speaker 3: A little bit. But I couldn't.
Speaker 10: I couldn't put Turping ahead of Michael Gallup right now
Speaker 10: because I will honestly say, several of the plays I've
Speaker 10: said I've seen Turpin make and the routes wherein he's
Speaker 10: beating the nickel guy and maybe not being targeted, but
Speaker 10: he has the guy toasted.
Speaker 3: It's it's with the twos.
Speaker 10: It's Kelvin Joseph for example, it's you saw I'm not
Speaker 10: this is just this is analysis, not a shot.
Speaker 8: But it's the twos that it's not too happy right now,
Speaker 8: no shots.
Speaker 10: No shots objectivity, right But when you see him go
Speaker 10: against a guy like Trevon Diggs, you saw Diggs close
Speaker 10: and make that PBu.
Speaker 3: So when it's against the first team.
Speaker 10: Not saying Turpin can't perform against the first team, I
Speaker 10: believe he can. That's why I have him in my six.
Speaker 10: But as far as putting him above Gallop. I personally
Speaker 10: need to see Turpin against more of the first teamers.
Speaker 10: Let me see him more against Eve, I mean game,
Speaker 10: let me see him more against Iron Bland in that slot,
Speaker 10: and then I'll be able to say, you know what,
Speaker 10: maybe that's the conversation to be had. But as it stands, no,
Speaker 10: because the gallup is going more so against the ones.
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Speaker 3: And he wants to be on the air with us
Speaker 3: right now. Really all right, so let's here we go.
Speaker 5: I had a couple more of these positions where I
Speaker 5: wanted to get some rankings from you guys.
Speaker 3: I like what you guys did with the wide receivers.
Speaker 5: I want to talk about offensive guard behind Tyler Smith
Speaker 5: and Zach Martin. Give me the next two to three
Speaker 5: guards in order based on what you've seen out here
Speaker 5: through the first couple weeks.
Speaker 8: Practice, Well, Farniac's gotta be the he's your next Yeah.
Speaker 8: And then but now you've got to figure out what
Speaker 8: do you feel like with a doga or what do
Speaker 8: you feel like with Josh Ball, or what do you
Speaker 8: feel like with TJ.
Speaker 3: Bass.
Speaker 7: To me, this is where it gets really murky. And
Speaker 7: I when.
Speaker 8: You when you used to do June Radio and you're
Speaker 8: signing to talk about, well, the Cowboys have got some
Speaker 8: really great depth in the offensive line and all that,
Speaker 8: and you're kind of like, oh, positions, I'm worried about
Speaker 8: linebacker and running back and you're thinking, boy, how wrong
Speaker 8: was I on that? But then you look at the
Speaker 8: offensive line situation, I think it is a struggle. I
Speaker 8: don't know if you really have good surplus behind you know.
Speaker 8: I think it's very very clear when they get to
Speaker 8: the seconds and the thirds that these these guys are
Speaker 8: struggling right now with Because the defensive tackles are this
Speaker 8: this division, this division, this NFC East has some monsters
Speaker 8: at defensive tackle. All the teams do, Commanders, Giants, Eagles, Cowboys,
Speaker 8: They all have monsters. Yeah, so you know, it's very
Speaker 8: clear when you're not good at guard, you can get exposed.
Speaker 8: And right now I think that Farniac has been the
Speaker 8: best of the group. And then I'm starting to like
Speaker 8: bass Ball and those guys. You know, we're kind of
Speaker 8: I think where I'm at right now that I would
Speaker 8: actually trust to have to play in the game, and
Speaker 8: that right now is kind of a difficult proposition to
Speaker 8: kind of wrap my hands around.
Speaker 3: Hi, Jerry, hope you're enjoying your morning. Pay Zach Martin.
Speaker 10: Yeah, because you know the mcgriddle whatever, however much you
Speaker 10: need to put on that to make the right decisions
Speaker 10: for Zach, you know, do that. The reason I lead
Speaker 10: with that is because you know, Farniac for me, is
Speaker 10: definitely gonna be the first name that comes up, and
Speaker 10: he's making strides. He's no Zach Martin. That's not a
Speaker 10: nock to Fantiac. There is no other Zach Martin closest
Speaker 10: that is Quentin Nelson. He's in Indianapolis. So you're gonna
Speaker 10: have that that drop off from Zach to Farnioc. But
Speaker 10: to Brian's point, once you start trying to figure out
Speaker 10: situation behind Farnioc, it gets kind of tight.
Speaker 3: It gets tense.
Speaker 10: Bass ball hasn't looked great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not.
Speaker 5: I mean that was that's almost a project, it is,
Speaker 5: but just it's a project.
Speaker 10: And speaking of projects, they didn't bring it in too much,
Speaker 10: Adoga to be a project that brought him in because
Speaker 10: they expected that he'd be kind of like the stabilizing force,
Speaker 10: uh in the event that Farniac didn't take the steps
Speaker 10: that Frnioc has taken.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I want to I want.
Speaker 16: To see more you so be it a doga and
Speaker 16: you know, not a lot is being said about Richards,
Speaker 16: you know, the rookie fifth round pick, and we'll see
Speaker 16: how that develops.
Speaker 10: But it's Forrnioc and then it's eyebrow raised. I genuinely
Speaker 10: don't have an answer behind Farniac and that's disconcerting.
Speaker 9: Yeah, after your starters, including sach Martin once he gets here,
Speaker 9: because he will hopefully not behind that, I just I
Speaker 9: feel very very uneasy, especially when you look at what
Speaker 9: you're trying to do with Dak this year and his receivers,
Speaker 9: the type of protection you're trying to give him, allowing
Speaker 9: him to even though they're working on getting rid of
Speaker 9: the ball, he still needs that kind of sense of
Speaker 9: security where he doesn't feel like he has to be
Speaker 9: running for his life. But at the same time, how
Speaker 9: is that affecting the running game and what kind of
Speaker 9: holes are you opening up for these guys that other
Speaker 9: I mean, we've seen that they have the speed and
Speaker 9: all that, but can they how good can they find
Speaker 9: those holes? I think that's something that I haven't been
Speaker 9: able to really really notice out here in these practices
Speaker 9: that will be depending on how the old line is performing,
Speaker 9: it's going to really really affect what the running backs
Speaker 9: are doing. So right now, I'm a little uneasy with
Speaker 9: everything behind the starters and history shows so far that,
Speaker 9: sadly and unfortunately, there's always some type of injury that
Speaker 9: happens and some guy has to go down, And we've
Speaker 9: talked about all the shuffling that they've had to do,
Speaker 9: especially like last year. So I have hope that they
Speaker 9: can figure it out and put it all together, but
Speaker 9: it is kind of concerning right now.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that the most interesting part about all
Speaker 5: that that you guys just said is even when Zach
Speaker 5: Martin comes in, because he'll get here, he'll be here.
Speaker 5: Whenever he gets here, it's still to me, highlights a
Speaker 5: really big issue.
Speaker 3: Because let's also remember, your starting.
Speaker 5: Left guard is your backup left tackles. And that's what
Speaker 5: I know about the left tackle position. That's what you
Speaker 5: gotta be at least you better have a plan for
Speaker 5: it right right. And so let's assume for a second
Speaker 5: that you lose your starting left tackle and he has
Speaker 5: to slide out. Now your guard is he the guy
Speaker 5: that can just jump in there?
Speaker 6: Like That's where it gets really tenuous.
Speaker 3: When you talk about resident horror movie that is.
Speaker 8: Heard about here calboy fan, that is that that is
Speaker 8: a nightmare scenario right there, because if something does happen
Speaker 8: to the left tackle, now you're now you're really like
Speaker 8: Amber's talking about, you're really shuffling.
Speaker 7: Guys around and and and and it's not.
Speaker 8: And the one thing I know working with Jerry Jones
Speaker 8: and personnel was how important things are in the middle
Speaker 8: of that offensive line because the ability for the quarterback
Speaker 8: to step up is is huge. Now with Zach, you know,
Speaker 8: it's just so clear right now. I mean, when they
Speaker 8: have issues, it's surely on the right side, and it's
Speaker 8: surely in the middle in that you know, it's they're
Speaker 8: trying to kind of work through all.
Speaker 7: That, and it's just it's not as clean as it
Speaker 7: needs to be.
Speaker 3: It's not here's we're gonna do.
Speaker 5: We got some some text messages we're gonna roll through
Speaker 5: here before we end the show today.
Speaker 11: Uh.
Speaker 5: The first one comes from Bradley his Texas pretty simple.
Speaker 5: It just says, Amber, the shirt is yellow. I love
Speaker 5: you guys, So thank you Bradley. We appreciate you.
Speaker 3: Chiming in, Uh, we got one from Uh.
Speaker 6: This person didn't leave Reggie. He says the shirt is yellow.
Speaker 5: He had a question, he said, from what from what
Speaker 5: I have seen of Mazzi, seems to get off the
Speaker 5: ball a little late. But do you guys see his power?
Speaker 5: What do you think about what you've seen so far?
Speaker 8: From you know, it's his hands, Yeah, he's he's got
Speaker 8: the power, he's got the ability.
Speaker 7: His hands need to be a little bit quicker, you know,
Speaker 7: and a little bit.
Speaker 8: He played a two gap system in at Michigan where
Speaker 8: it's inside outside, so you know, you play.
Speaker 7: A little slower that way.
Speaker 8: But yeah, he needs to find a way, like in
Speaker 8: the nine on seven stuff that I've been watching. Needs
Speaker 8: to just get rid of those blockers a little bit
Speaker 8: quicker control, get rid of control, get rid of don't control,
Speaker 8: don't control, and then like, oh there's the ball, and
Speaker 8: then get rid. That's been a little bit of an
Speaker 8: issue for him early in this this training.
Speaker 10: Campra I think the getoff will come, And he admitted
Speaker 10: himself in a conversation a couple of days ago that
Speaker 10: his get off is not where he wants it to be.
Speaker 10: He feels like he can be better with that. And
Speaker 10: and I agree completely in watching practice, and I think
Speaker 10: it's just you know, he's only two padded practices in
Speaker 10: and this is not making excuses for it is the
Speaker 10: rookie curve is the rookie curve, and and few positions
Speaker 10: have a greater rookie curve than the defensive line in
Speaker 10: the NFL. So now he's going up against the bigger boys,
Speaker 10: where at Michigan and in the Big ten, his strength
Speaker 10: was was going to be more evident than it is
Speaker 10: against the Tyler Smiths of the world, the Tyrone Smith's
Speaker 10: of the world. That's why those are the two guys
Speaker 10: that he pointed at as far as when we were
Speaker 10: asking about his strength, and he was like, yeah, man,
Speaker 10: I'm strong, And they asked, you know, who's the strongest
Speaker 10: in the locker room. Of course, you would have thought
Speaker 10: Mazie would have been like, yeah me, he was like
Speaker 10: Tyron Yeah, and he was like Tyron Smith right. So
Speaker 10: the way he said it, he's feeling it now. So
Speaker 10: give him, give him a couple of weeks paralyzed. Yeah,
Speaker 10: he's realizing he'll get there.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Will McClay even said that they had to work on
Speaker 8: his stance. Yeah, you know, and sometimes if your stance
Speaker 8: is too narrow, you can't you know, you can't. If
Speaker 8: your stance is too wide, you can't move. If it's too.
Speaker 7: Narrow, you lose your base.
Speaker 8: So even Will talking about it after the draft that
Speaker 8: they felt like they had to do something maybe open
Speaker 8: him up a little more with his stance.
Speaker 7: Probably a lot of things he's working on, and.
Speaker 10: You know why, wonderful points because the Cowboys are looking
Speaker 10: to unlock some of his past rush a bit. So
Speaker 10: when doing that, they're going to have to make tweaks.
Speaker 10: So before everyone starts panicking saying, oh well, but because
Speaker 10: you know how fans can get, no, he is being
Speaker 10: tweaked right now. So it's not the same stance per
Speaker 10: se as what they saw as what he saw at Michigan,
Speaker 10: So give him a chance to get his legs and
Speaker 10: I think he will.
Speaker 9: He just hasn't had hasn't found that comfort, that confidence
Speaker 9: and just Okay, I'm comfortable in this space. I'm comfortable
Speaker 9: with these guys, and I'm gonna do what I know what,
Speaker 9: like what I've been trained to do. I think he's
Speaker 9: getting a little bit too much into his head. I
Speaker 9: think he's a little too critical of himself, which is
Speaker 9: good because you want a guy that is that has
Speaker 9: self awareness and that can't keep competing and going back
Speaker 9: and trying to perfect what he needs to work on.
Speaker 9: But all in know, I think that everything's gonna come
Speaker 9: as easily once he starts finding just that comfort and like, Okay,
Speaker 9: I belong here, Yes, I belong here, and this is
Speaker 9: what I came here to do, and I'm just gonna
Speaker 9: keep going at it. I think it's just a little
Speaker 9: confidence that it's maybe for me what it's lacking right now.
Speaker 10: And he's also learning the playbook as he's having his
Speaker 10: stance tweaked, so he might be in his mind just
Speaker 10: a little bit talk about last.
Speaker 3: Year with Tobrid overthinking he's a rookie. Maybe thinking too much.
Speaker 10: Once the muscle once he plays from instinct and muscle memory.
Speaker 10: Good luck to the guy lining up across from him
Speaker 10: real quick before.
Speaker 3: We end the show.
Speaker 5: I can't get to all the texts, but quite a
Speaker 5: few of them made it clear it to yellow shirt.
Speaker 3: However, there was one young lady, just one. There was
Speaker 3: one young lady.
Speaker 5: Becky and Crumb, Texas says, and where did you get
Speaker 5: the lime green T shirt?
Speaker 6: So she agrees, she wants to know where you got it?
Speaker 3: Where did you get it? Cowboys Pro Shopways Pro Shop? Okay,
Speaker 3: so you can go get your yellow.
Speaker 6: Shirt, oh, from the Cowboys Pro Shop.
Speaker 9: You know what I think? My vote is time's five
Speaker 9: hundred because out of here, like I actually paint, and
Speaker 9: I actually deal with a lot of paying I am
Speaker 9: an artist.
Speaker 7: Come on, da compose your das.
Speaker 10: Granted grant that does give you more, you know, more
Speaker 10: say in the matter. But as a dad who helps
Speaker 10: his kids with crayons, I think I know.
Speaker 9: You guys have limited colors.
Speaker 6: Crayons are what if it's the one twenty six bucks?
Speaker 3: No, come on, come on, no, all stop. You appreciate
Speaker 3: you guys.
Speaker 9: Maybe it's the lighting right now, but you guys need
Speaker 9: Sometimes the light plays and effect, but this is the.
Speaker 5: Lighting being the sun, right all right, We appreciate you guys, Jones.
Speaker 5: We'll be back on Monday and we'll have a lot
Speaker 5: more for you guys. We got arac this afternoon, got
Speaker 5: another one on Saturday as well, so we'll have lots
Speaker 5: of updates for you guys on Monday til then. For
Speaker 5: Brian Broadest, Patrick Walker, Ambergarcia, I'm Derek Heilton. This has
Speaker 5: been The Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio.
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