WEBVTT - Episode 235 w/ J Prince 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.480 Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of The Black Effect 0:00:02.520 --> 0:00:18.480 and I Heart Radio and his Drink Chess motherfucking podcast. 0:00:18.960 --> 0:00:22.120 He's a legendary queen's rapper. He's agreed is your boy 0:00:22.160 --> 0:00:25.480 in no r He's a Miami hippoper, mioneer. What up 0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:28.280 is d j e fn? Together they drinking up with 0:00:28.320 --> 0:00:32.800 some of the biggest players in the most professional, unprofessional 0:00:32.920 --> 0:00:37.760 podcast and yet number one source for drunk backs is 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:41.640 New year' z. That's time for Drink Champs. Trick up, 0:00:41.680 --> 0:00:50.400 motherfuck motherfuck? Would it could be hopeully would assume this 0:00:50.440 --> 0:00:53.319 is your boy? What up is d J e F? 0:00:53.560 --> 0:00:55.200 And I like saying this. This is really tam me 0:00:55.240 --> 0:00:58.720 crazy role slash drink chat. Yeah, ya will make up. 0:01:02.760 --> 0:01:05.160 You know, this is my one of my favorite times 0:01:05.160 --> 0:01:07.760 of doing drink Chances. People that behind the scenes, not 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:10.360 only this is brother is behind the scenes, but he 0:01:10.440 --> 0:01:12.840 was the move maker behind the scenes. When you have 0:01:13.440 --> 0:01:17.319 people who in this game that says, uh started from 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:20.360 the trunk? What is it? Hand in hand from the trunk? 0:01:20.840 --> 0:01:24.119 This is brother name pops Up. He's an entrepreneur. He's 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:29.640 damned there. If Houston had or Texas had a president, 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:34.440 I think his picture. I don't know how many rappers 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:38.360 drewry he got back. I don't know. This man is 0:01:38.400 --> 0:01:41.680 a legend, he started the independence. I feel like this 0:01:41.800 --> 0:01:45.440 was our first version of motown and hip. I could 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:47.840 be I could be wrong, You correct me, or anybody 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:49.480 correct me. But I feel like this is the first 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:52.640 version of motown. You got people like MASTERP that looks 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:55.080 up to this guy, people like babies, people, I mean 0:01:55.120 --> 0:01:57.920 every I don't know people who don't look up to him. 0:01:57.960 --> 0:02:00.320 Everyone from Bump Beat a little Flip has sat at 0:02:00.360 --> 0:02:03.360 the same table in the show and has big up 0:02:03.400 --> 0:02:06.200 this man, and he has a great book Court respect. 0:02:06.280 --> 0:02:08.000 In case you don't know who the funk we're talking about, 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:16.760 we're talking about the remarkable, because the impeccable James motherfucking Now, 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:19.480 you you're the big home you look you're one of 0:02:19.480 --> 0:02:23.200 the biggest, the biggest of the biggest home. Right And 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:26.440 when I went in out and research your story, it's 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:30.000 like what I said at the intro, I believe you 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:36.000 were like the first black owned Uh. I don't want 0:02:36.000 --> 0:02:38.200 to say street, I want to say record label, first 0:02:38.200 --> 0:02:41.080 straight up record label. Right, but you owned the car 0:02:41.240 --> 0:02:45.760 lot prior to that, right, what how much do you 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:56.120 I was exercise of my entrepreneur Okay, so huh so 0:02:56.200 --> 0:02:58.919 how do you translation from the car line and then 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:03.320 say because the car has to be making money? Yeah right? Yeah? Yeah, Actually, 0:03:03.400 --> 0:03:06.640 you know, I always had a passion for cars, you 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:08.880 know what I mean. I used to I used to 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:12.120 model cars. I couldn't afford them as a kid, but 0:03:12.240 --> 0:03:16.080 my cousin had him, so it recrd dreamed of I 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:18.440 end up purchasing. You know how you look at them 0:03:18.440 --> 0:03:21.440 ships on your on your dress or whatnot, and you're 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:23.720 invinging yourself or I want to be in that car. 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:31.360 I gotta make some every car I my life to you. 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:34.960 So that passion led me to open a car lot 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:37.760 because I was connected in the street and all the athletes, 0:03:38.320 --> 0:03:40.320 you know what I mean, all the hustlers and whatnot. 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:45.360 That was a way of making money. Yeah. So so 0:03:45.880 --> 0:03:50.560 all right, because at this time I'm seeing rap making money, 0:03:50.720 --> 0:03:53.520 but I'm not seeing them make millions. I'm not seeing them. 0:03:53.640 --> 0:03:56.520 I'm not seeing all the flash at this time, and 0:03:56.640 --> 0:03:59.880 especially not only rap. Yeah, but let's just be let's 0:03:59.880 --> 0:04:05.200 be clear. The South, yeah, particularly wasn't known for making 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:07.800 So what made you say you know what this cart 0:04:07.880 --> 0:04:10.880 that is probably like a cash business and because that's 0:04:11.000 --> 0:04:14.640 that's who was there whole dreams like this works, it's 0:04:14.640 --> 0:04:17.920 no guarantee. So what made you do that? No real talk? 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:21.839 Uh you know, I felt like the rap game was 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:29.120 the next dope game, just to be real, right, that's 0:04:29.160 --> 0:04:33.000 tenus that I felt that way, and I shared those 0:04:33.040 --> 0:04:35.800 thoughts with many, you know what I mean, and some 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:39.479 believe a lot of them didn't believe. If you like 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:42.719 follow me with my intros on the Ghetto Boys, you know, 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:45.279 one of my one of my goals was to plant 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:48.520 them seeds and to as many hustlers around the world 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:53.000 as possible because I was trying to be yeah, yeah, 0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:57.240 you know the whole journey. That's what Carter Masterpe and 0:04:57.320 --> 0:05:01.320 all others down your book signing recently. Yeah, that was 0:05:01.400 --> 0:05:04.320 that was hard. But Julia Doubley was going out a 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:09.840 little bit though. That was hilarious because I think, uh, 0:05:10.480 --> 0:05:13.719 you know, artists be sensitive, like like like I just 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:15.920 want article that drid the revery wonder about you have 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:19.120 a game. But yet you know what she didn't. She 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:23.320 didn't really when she left the girl. Yeah this is 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:26.360 so false, you know, but um, but Master pe I 0:05:26.440 --> 0:05:28.920 remembered that and if they saw each other and and 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:31.520 it was it was you neque to see him as 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:33.240 a human as well. You know what I mean, because 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:35.560 a lot of the times we act like nothing, no 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:38.000 bother us. But it kind of bothered him and he 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:40.200 was like, yeah, he's likely no excuse me. She checked 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:43.160 him because he had said something in the interview the 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:45.000 Proper Club cor a white girl said oh, this is 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:47.360 the white girl and she liked that. She stepped up. 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:49.440 I was, I was actually your first. And then he 0:05:49.560 --> 0:05:51.400 ended it with you and Jay Prince. So that's it. 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:54.839 So um now, let's let's get to let's get to 0:05:54.880 --> 0:05:57.760 what you got over there. Those bottles look very sexy. 0:05:58.080 --> 0:06:02.080 What is that? Cause loyalty of you to man? Y'all 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:08.720 taste for lawyer? Let's host the baby and I got 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:14.679 it in Champagne, Merlot, Cabernette. And so that's the rose. Okay. 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:17.880 So and this is where's this from? This is from France? 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:27.160 Okay from you don't like the movie? Very cool. I'm 0:06:27.240 --> 0:06:33.200 just trying to diversify my portfolio. The number. What's what's 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:36.040 your proudest moment in hip hop or that you've been 0:06:36.080 --> 0:06:39.640 a part of this in this music business. But um, 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:43.560 I would say uplifting the South, you know what I mean. 0:06:43.839 --> 0:06:47.400 It was important to me to ignite that whole movement 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:50.240 in the South, and I think I accomplished that. So 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:53.400 that's that's one of my proudest moments. That's hard, I'll 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:59.520 be that because, like I really look at your career 0:06:59.560 --> 0:07:03.920 and let's really you're really very unique. Right. What I 0:07:03.960 --> 0:07:07.560 mean by that is people that made it to where 0:07:07.560 --> 0:07:11.000 you always had like a sucker ship attached to it 0:07:11.040 --> 0:07:14.560 on some rumor some bad ship. It's like, that's why 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:17.080 I used to work impeccable and the thing you have 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:20.960 like a like what was called an impeccable reputation, you know, 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:25.400 impeccable amount of respect, Like I've never heard nobody talk 0:07:25.480 --> 0:07:27.480 bad about J Prince? How did how did? I mean? 0:07:27.480 --> 0:07:29.800 I'm sure it's happening, but I've never seen it, you 0:07:29.800 --> 0:07:32.040 know what I'm saying. So how do you develop that 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:34.760 little I know you're gonna say respect, Yeah, I mean, 0:07:34.880 --> 0:07:37.000 you know that's that's a part of it. But having 0:07:37.040 --> 0:07:40.760 a word you know what I mean? Yes? Mean yes, 0:07:40.920 --> 0:07:44.840 you know me? No, you know, along with its being 0:07:44.960 --> 0:07:47.680 stand up man. You know what I mean all of 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:51.320 that helps you following through. Also, you know, it blew 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:56.360 my mind. The Ghetto Boys was put together. Yeah, the 0:07:56.360 --> 0:07:58.880 Ghetto Boys that we see that we think it's the 0:07:58.920 --> 0:08:04.000 Ghetto Boys didn't know each other. Holy, individual and season 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:06.720 on their own. Yeah, did you know? I didn't even know? Yeah, 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:10.640 I supposed to research and they could. Yeah. I actually 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:13.640 because three other artists that was getting boy, we had 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:17.720 the original three they couldn't relate to me. You know 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:20.240 what you're not? He said, you was too deep? Yeah, 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:28.160 you think forgot told them to go then the word 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:30.760 talking about because they couldn't stand the test of time. 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:33.280 But what I've done was went on every side of Houston, 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:37.280 and I felt like I got the three hardest I heard. 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:41.360 You said you did research. Yeah, Now when people here research, 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:44.920 they didn't google. This is a different type of research. 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:48.440 You had to go because I believe Scarf facing from 0:08:48.440 --> 0:08:50.800 the south side and you're from the north side. You 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:53.520 actually had to go in the Lion's then to actually 0:08:53.559 --> 0:08:57.280 meet with him, right, Holy, you understand that that's so? 0:08:57.559 --> 0:08:59.719 And when did Scarface? None of them knew each other, 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:03.880 none of them. Yeah, So what's that first session like 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:08.720 when you put off you know what I mean, stand off, 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:11.480 everybody was doing it for me, you know what I mean, 0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:13.720 because I told him, I say, man, as ghetto boys 0:09:13.760 --> 0:09:17.440 all over the world, y'all come together and add to 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:22.240 the foundation already laid. And uh make these rhymes, make 0:09:22.480 --> 0:09:25.839 make these rhymes, these lyrics in my head, rhyme. But 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:27.880 I had some ship I wanted to hear you used 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:30.240 to say. I heard you used the curiously you were 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:37.079 trying to wrap through them because like dricks On, it 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:39.640 was about Yeah, because and then you get on in 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:41.880 the book. Yeah, I think it's a chapter in the 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:45.520 closet or something like that. Yeah, definitely, mind playing tricks 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:49.920 is about all of them things. And how do you 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:53.079 come across someone like Bushwick? You know, I saw Bushwick 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:55.000 in the club. Man, I saw him in the club 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:58.800 doing some dancing and different ship drunk because he always 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:01.960 the same way. Yeah, you know what I mean. I 0:10:02.000 --> 0:10:06.119 thought he was a I catch you all right, yeah, 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:10.560 because that's just that's just that's pure of talent though, 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:15.719 like because at the time, uh, like I don't I 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:18.959 don't remember a rap group like having like an art 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:22.240 that's like an art character like at that time, Like 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:24.200 I mean that that was the first one, right like 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:27.240 Bush mcville. I mean, if you consider Flame maybe for 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:32.720 public enemy and sense as a character. Okay, Now, one 0:10:32.760 --> 0:10:36.680 thing that I always when I visited Houston, I realized 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:40.000 how big Houston was, And I always realized. I always 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:43.120 thought that it's gonna be one person that could only 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:46.560 sell their music to just Houston and blow just just 0:10:46.600 --> 0:10:48.560 what Houston, because that's how big it is. Like I 0:10:48.559 --> 0:10:50.280 feel like there's gonna be an artist that can just 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:53.040 promote to Houston. I mean when I says meaning the 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:55.839 whole text is my bad, but because I'm texted so big, 0:10:55.880 --> 0:10:57.920 that's what I mean. You think that that there's a 0:10:58.000 --> 0:11:00.800 day there that that that could happen. Oh yeah, all 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:05.280 things are possible. Okay, so yeah, so let let let 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:07.320 me just show you the names that's associated with you 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:10.640 when I googled you. I want to show you this. 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:12.920 This is this did you did you do this? I 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:18.160 mean I know a lot of it, alright, cool? Hold on, 0:11:18.240 --> 0:11:20.800 who was the first that wasn't the first group you signed? 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:26.319 Was it putting together? No? I had Raheem, you know 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:29.640 what I mean. Raheem actually was a solo artist that 0:11:29.760 --> 0:11:33.000 I signed with A and M. Rockers, and I took 0:11:33.040 --> 0:11:34.679 that money from A and M and put it in 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:37.360 the ghetto bars. Yeah that he had to go to 0:11:37.360 --> 0:11:42.000 New York to an M. California. Yeah yeah, California and 0:11:42.120 --> 0:11:44.600 odd Squad was on. It was an early sign, right, 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:50.760 did you know he was a breakout at the squad. 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:53.360 I felt that we always felt the arts score was 0:11:53.440 --> 0:11:56.080 before their time, you know what I mean? When Devin 0:11:56.600 --> 0:11:59.120 he stuck out, you know, blind Rob, you know he's 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:03.000 a blind produced So all of them were real telling it. Okay, 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:04.360 So when I go with your name, this is all 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:06.080 the people that came up with Jazz Prince, of course 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:09.559 your son, scar Faced, Willie d Pushwick, Christina Malans. I 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:15.640 didn't know that revelation Bumby Zero, Uh when you Sanders, Uh, 0:12:15.720 --> 0:12:20.480 Devin the dude, PEPSI, Big Mike, Mega Stallion. I didn't 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:25.719 know that you're ready for a track. They're gonna have 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:29.920 a dream, what yould man, We're gonna lose the things up, baby, 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:32.360 Because I don't think anybody has talking to you since 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:35.599 the Mega Stallion incident, right, I hadn't spoken about that 0:12:35.920 --> 0:12:41.120 all right, But because I'm gonna be honest. One of 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:43.280 the very first things and this is about the incident, 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:47.720 not um there or when it happened to Megan Stallion 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:50.400 once whatever happened, I don't, I don't know. But one 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:52.720 of the first, very first comments I saw it was 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:54.440 that wouldn't have happened if she was on she was 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:58.080 with the homies, that wouldn't happened. If you know, you know, 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:02.199 you know what I'm trying to say. So um, if 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:05.680 you can't. And man, it watches very nice, bro, I 0:13:05.800 --> 0:13:08.200 gotta lie looking looked at all your interviews. I said 0:13:08.200 --> 0:13:10.520 this man, do come with a nice watch. You know, 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:16.800 we love watching whoever. But speaking on on on that 0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:21.800 because she was she was originally signed to you and H. 0:13:22.040 --> 0:13:25.120 Crawford right well, never was originally signed to me. But 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:30.200 sign the Crawford okay, sign one okay. And H. Crawford 0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:33.559 is from fear forarity from my hood and even though 0:13:33.559 --> 0:13:35.920 he a baseball player, he from the hood from let's 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:40.199 make some noises. That man's someways got damn make the 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:52.120 more so some moves was taking place right to you know, 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:57.600 come in and uh kind of scoop Megan away from 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:00.839 the home because he knew, he knew, he said, saw 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:02.960 this day. Come yeah, yeah, you know how to go 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:05.880 in the music industry a lot of times or the 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:09.680 major's weight on independence to build a situation up and 0:14:10.040 --> 0:14:13.160 they come and say the day they called saving the 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:16.840 day right, Uh, but we weren't. You know, I couldn't 0:14:16.880 --> 0:14:19.160 have it on my watch. But you know, the home, 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:21.320 it came to me and he like, he explained to 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:24.640 me what was taking place, and you know, like a 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:26.880 big home he should do. I stood up for him, 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:32.640 and uh, we was able to change things around because artists. 0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:35.760 What happens is artists and I'm been a part of this, 0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:40.800 artists come to get in the game. They signed a contract. 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:43.960 You can't technically sign a contract without having a lawyer 0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:46.360 look over it. That's technically so that means you had 0:14:46.400 --> 0:14:48.680 your people look over it. I didn't want to change 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:51.600 the contract. Is that's something like that happened at World. Well, 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:54.360 the thing is, you actually can refuse to have a 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:57.840 law You can tell your lawyer you don't really care 0:14:57.840 --> 0:15:00.920 about going through the contract because you for it. Oh yeah, 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:07.080 you had that right. Oh I thought that was mandatory. Okay, okay, no, 0:15:07.280 --> 0:15:10.480 I mean and and and the thing with that situation is, 0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:13.520 you know that's that's how it happened, you know, when 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:17.680 she actually had a lawyer? This a way, why so 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:22.280 then I I'm gonna go straight to it. Then this this, 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:25.280 this Torrey Lane situation. You think that would have happened 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:30.320 or it had you been involved or I don't think so. 0:15:31.120 --> 0:15:34.840 If it did, I think it had been immediate consequences, right, yeah, 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:38.920 let's make so much to that guy. Change it up, 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:47.120 damn change it up. So boxing andre Ward, he would 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:51.640 tell you too early. I would have loved have seen 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:55.760 Andra stay longer when undering, you know, under the real 0:15:55.840 --> 0:15:59.760 spiritual individual, a man of guard. And uh he told me, 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:02.800 you know what I mean, that's that's part of the calling. 0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:06.240 God told him to retire to time. So I can't 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:09.680 arg with God. Lost a lot of money though right now, 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:11.520 have been a lot of because he would have You 0:16:11.520 --> 0:16:13.200 think he could have went up to like you no 0:16:13.320 --> 0:16:15.600 know what was he's made away right? Yeah? Yeah, he 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:18.320 was a light heavyweight. I think andre could have worn 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:25.400 a tight heavyweight wentness Andrea Ward destroyed heavyweight. Yeah when 0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:29.360 he fund open, Okay, don't want to give me finding 0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:32.040 all these these business it's like like what kind of 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:36.960 water do you drink? You know? With boxing, Well, you 0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:39.160 know what. You know what, man, I'm a praying man 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:47.880 right first and foremost don't got the opportunity to so, 0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:51.360 so I feel like all my blessings come from some 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:54.400 kind of way. Okay, Yeah, I expect that now, don't 0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:59.880 do doom. For four long years, had the number one box? 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:04.159 Ask he was becoming the number one box? You had, Floyd? Yeah, 0:17:04.520 --> 0:17:07.640 when he like he he didn't really even know who 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:10.720 he was at the time. He was developing as I was, man, 0:17:11.600 --> 0:17:14.320 and I would see you in the ring. Yeah, So 0:17:14.920 --> 0:17:19.400 I had never thought that relationship. I thought it was like, yeah, 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:21.400 I was like the perfect relationship, you know what I'm saying. 0:17:21.440 --> 0:17:24.920 So the lasted four years, but what what was? It 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:27.520 was just time to move on? Yeah. You know sometimes, 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:32.119 like in any relationship, you know, you evolved and eventually 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:36.080 you do things differently, right, So I think that's kind 0:17:36.119 --> 0:17:38.320 of what took place with me and the homie. But 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:41.040 it's still look okay, because I heard you surrounded the gym. 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:47.520 She like that some money has to be paid and 0:17:47.600 --> 0:17:51.520 money is hey that day? Is that truth in the 0:17:51.680 --> 0:18:02.119 name a little bit? Okay? So one of the one 0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:06.200 of the most interesting ventures I've ever heard of in 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:10.199 hip hop. Oh it was like a two boo. It's 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:13.040 like a two week room one that this was actually happening. 0:18:13.160 --> 0:18:17.600 You shug and and what what was happening was. It 0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:21.600 wasn't like you shooking earth or any three year y'all 0:18:21.680 --> 0:18:25.240 was on the down. Yeah, I was at this time. 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:28.800 So if this would have actually merged, this would have 0:18:28.800 --> 0:18:32.639 been the biggest black environment we have ever. So you 0:18:32.760 --> 0:18:35.520 think there was somebody deliberately out to shut you out 0:18:35.520 --> 0:18:37.920 down And what was it y'all were doing? Trying to 0:18:38.160 --> 0:18:40.480 set up distribution? We had a meeting. Yeah, we wanted 0:18:40.480 --> 0:18:44.080 to create their own black owned distribute some girls. So 0:18:44.280 --> 0:18:46.359 we had a meeting of the mind met in l A. 0:18:46.960 --> 0:18:51.560 And it wasn't long after. I feel like the FEDS 0:18:52.240 --> 0:18:56.480 attack each of us, you know what I mean? That's 0:18:56.520 --> 0:19:00.760 deconspiracy from not only from a distribute some point of view. 0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:04.840 You know, they had their reasons, but definitely they you know, 0:19:05.160 --> 0:19:07.800 we all saw what happened to death Row. We saw 0:19:07.840 --> 0:19:11.120 how they attack murder In and you know they tried 0:19:11.200 --> 0:19:14.760 to kill me. So yeah, that was said like a 0:19:14.880 --> 0:19:17.880 d A agent or hit man or some ship. Yeah, 0:19:17.880 --> 0:19:19.720 I called him a hit man because he got about 0:19:19.760 --> 0:19:22.280 eight to ten bodies, you know what I mean. So 0:19:22.359 --> 0:19:25.360 I couldn't think of a better name to call, uh 0:19:26.000 --> 0:19:29.760 shoot marker. Yeah, and they put them on you, Oh yeah, 0:19:31.240 --> 0:19:35.680 on purpose. Goddamn you out here. Motherfucker's smelling like roses 0:19:39.480 --> 0:19:43.199 sucking again. So now they say that they would say 0:19:43.280 --> 0:19:45.320 they said that you had a pick farm on your 0:19:45.640 --> 0:19:55.600 your house. I've seen a series on Prime that they 0:19:55.680 --> 0:19:58.080 were just the mob would just feed people to the pigs. 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:03.680 You know, they're telling a lot of lots. Do we 0:20:03.760 --> 0:20:06.920 have a rant? You know, it's about three hundreds some 0:20:07.119 --> 0:20:11.359 heads of cows and horses and ships like that. No pigs. 0:20:14.880 --> 0:20:17.119 That sounds scary. Tho, you got Jo, you know you 0:20:17.160 --> 0:20:24.639 got a big stick. We're we're pointing the guys. That's crazy. 0:20:24.680 --> 0:20:28.359 That's good. So I read scoff face saye work for work. 0:20:29.240 --> 0:20:34.680 He said, people want to be like Mike. I wanted 0:20:34.720 --> 0:20:40.520 to be like Jack. That's fucking hard. How do you 0:20:40.720 --> 0:20:43.240 how do you feel when you when you hear things 0:20:43.320 --> 0:20:46.840 like that? You know, I feel honored, man, I feel 0:20:46.880 --> 0:20:52.240 honored to you know, to inspire all of them that 0:20:52.359 --> 0:20:55.720 come after me, you know what I mean? Because one 0:20:55.800 --> 0:20:58.840 thing I never wanted my kids and nobody to do 0:20:59.000 --> 0:21:02.040 is have to hold the head down when my name 0:21:02.200 --> 0:21:04.520 is mentioned. So but want to Biby to hold his 0:21:04.640 --> 0:21:08.480 head up. You know, from observing me or being inspired 0:21:08.520 --> 0:21:12.800 by me is inspirational to me. It's a beautiful day. 0:21:13.240 --> 0:21:15.440 So at one point before you get off the face, 0:21:15.760 --> 0:21:18.359 we gotta talk about that. He's you know, it's crazy, 0:21:18.400 --> 0:21:20.720 I hate scar face to get some cheat questions and 0:21:20.800 --> 0:21:23.280 he was like, yo, he said, he said, jay child 0:21:23.320 --> 0:21:25.359 me he was coming down. I thought that was just 0:21:25.520 --> 0:21:28.880 dope that y'all still speak like that. That's my brother. 0:21:29.040 --> 0:21:31.639 That's really that's like, I just want to commend you 0:21:31.760 --> 0:21:33.880 to your face. Yeah, and I know it's been rough 0:21:33.920 --> 0:21:37.080 times between y'all. Everybody every brother's fight, but the fact 0:21:37.119 --> 0:21:39.840 that y'all can still talk thirty one years later, y'all 0:21:39.880 --> 0:21:41.560 still like I hate scarf face. And he was like, yeah, 0:21:41.600 --> 0:21:43.400 he told me he's coming. Was like, oh, ship, he's 0:21:43.440 --> 0:21:46.400 still talk to me. That's something that should be honor, 0:21:46.440 --> 0:21:48.560 you know, just the relationship, regardless to everything. I know 0:21:48.640 --> 0:21:50.600 you got business together, but I just want to honor that. 0:21:50.680 --> 0:21:54.520 To your face. Man, I said, I it's beautiful, Like 0:21:55.080 --> 0:21:57.200 I was touched by that, and I know I know Facing. 0:21:57.359 --> 0:21:59.520 You know, when Face was had the COVID show, I 0:21:59.560 --> 0:22:02.080 called Face every single day. Yeah, I just called him 0:22:02.080 --> 0:22:03.640 to check on him, like I didn't. I didn't care 0:22:03.720 --> 0:22:05.520 what time, I didn't care if I was bothering him 0:22:06.240 --> 0:22:08.520 face right, Face. But like getting back to that, I 0:22:08.640 --> 0:22:11.680 really respectation ship. I respect you know, thirty years but 0:22:11.840 --> 0:22:13.320 ship like me and you was like that, like if 0:22:13.359 --> 0:22:16.080 we know each other that long, like and we're still speaking. 0:22:16.160 --> 0:22:18.520 So when I see it, because I know it's abnormal 0:22:18.600 --> 0:22:19.960 for other people, you know what I'm saying, It's like 0:22:20.160 --> 0:22:22.320 everyone is in the snaking each other. Everyone is in 0:22:22.400 --> 0:22:24.480 there doing some some dumb ships. So when I see that, 0:22:24.680 --> 0:22:26.560 I definitely wanted to salute you to your face and 0:22:26.640 --> 0:22:30.200 Face is still he's still looking for a kidney donor, right, yeah, yeah, 0:22:30.240 --> 0:22:31.680 we gotta we gotta get We gotta get that for 0:22:31.720 --> 0:22:33.840 you out there. You gotta kidney and you know you 0:22:34.000 --> 0:22:35.480 hit math. I mean, you know what I mean. Some 0:22:35.560 --> 0:22:38.920 people just got like I don't know how to say that. 0:22:39.080 --> 0:22:41.160 You know, if you're a match, you guy it man, 0:22:41.320 --> 0:22:45.840 let's get let's get national treasure. And you still you 0:22:46.160 --> 0:22:48.040 do you call him scar faceing, you call up calling 0:22:48.080 --> 0:22:52.080 Brad sometimes call him face okay, cool cool cool cool 0:22:52.080 --> 0:22:54.399 because I see Willie um Wie D and he was 0:22:54.440 --> 0:22:57.520 calling them Brad one time throughout this whole interview through 0:22:57.720 --> 0:22:59.359 I was watching, you know, I was watching all these 0:22:59.400 --> 0:23:01.760 interviews about you guys, and he kept calling them Brad. 0:23:01.800 --> 0:23:04.000 I was like, who then is Brad? Some time, I 0:23:04.080 --> 0:23:06.080 told these lips in my mind that I want to 0:23:06.080 --> 0:23:09.800 say something real quick because when I was researching uh you, 0:23:10.080 --> 0:23:14.760 it brought me to flat TV right and on lad TV, 0:23:15.920 --> 0:23:18.200 lack TV. I feel like he disrespected hip hop, feel 0:23:18.200 --> 0:23:20.880 like disrespecting Louis Farra car. I feel like he didn't 0:23:20.920 --> 0:23:23.879 he didn't say sorry, So lad TV or anybody's watching this, 0:23:24.240 --> 0:23:26.720 I would let you, personally black to take every video 0:23:26.840 --> 0:23:30.080 that Nori is on your site and take it off. 0:23:30.840 --> 0:23:33.440 I wouldn't. I'm asking you that as as a favorite. Know. 0:23:33.520 --> 0:23:36.080 I could have called you, you know, on on the phone, 0:23:36.280 --> 0:23:39.440 but this is a public situation. This isn't a private situation. 0:23:39.760 --> 0:23:42.040 So this is your boy, and are signed that. I 0:23:42.160 --> 0:23:46.480 just I didn't want anything to do with that. Sorry, sorry, 0:23:46.560 --> 0:23:49.200 sorry Jack, Because you know I'm watching and Lord Jamal 0:23:49.320 --> 0:23:52.600 and Everybody's like, man like, if you disrespect the culture 0:23:52.880 --> 0:23:55.040 of hip hop, and you're not a part of the 0:23:55.080 --> 0:23:58.119 culture like you the best the best thing you should 0:23:58.119 --> 0:24:00.639 do is apologize. He so he just expect the lowist 0:24:00.640 --> 0:24:03.000 flower car. They asked him to apologize, and he said, 0:24:03.080 --> 0:24:05.960 I apologize to him if you come on my show. 0:24:06.800 --> 0:24:10.000 You don't dictate this situation, buddy. This is our culture. 0:24:10.760 --> 0:24:13.640 We dictate this motherfucker. So by me taking a stance, 0:24:13.680 --> 0:24:14.920 I'm gonna take it. I don't got gonna do with 0:24:15.000 --> 0:24:17.240 this ship. But I would like for you to erase 0:24:17.359 --> 0:24:19.920 every video that I'm on on your side. And that's 0:24:19.960 --> 0:24:22.159 why I stand. Let's move back to this I that 0:24:22.280 --> 0:24:27.280 I was. Yeah, he expected the Louis flower car. He 0:24:27.560 --> 0:24:31.440 actually made up something. They checked him on it and said, look, 0:24:31.520 --> 0:24:32.920 this is what he said. He didn't say that, he 0:24:33.000 --> 0:24:37.480 false reported, he false something. Just say I'm sorry, Just 0:24:37.600 --> 0:24:39.480 say you're my bad. You know what I'm saying. You 0:24:39.600 --> 0:24:43.280 know you can enrich over this culture. But he he 0:24:43.400 --> 0:24:45.159 has young men go up there, and you know, I 0:24:45.200 --> 0:24:47.080 don't even want to keep going. I don't keep going 0:24:47.119 --> 0:24:49.680 on that. But let's say so now, respect, let's talk 0:24:49.680 --> 0:24:53.720 about the book. Respect. You rooting in two thousand and fourteen, 0:24:54.960 --> 0:24:57.639 No not that long ago. Okay, this book been out 0:24:57.680 --> 0:25:01.400 of two years. Okay, you wrote it, I'm saying you really, 0:25:01.440 --> 0:25:05.240 I probably wrote it a few months before it was released. Okay, 0:25:05.359 --> 0:25:08.320 So you know this book, the art and Science of Respect, 0:25:08.560 --> 0:25:12.359 Why my winds, my losses? Everything happened in between the 0:25:12.600 --> 0:25:16.520 art and science? Science science? Sound? Is man complicated? Yeah? 0:25:17.119 --> 0:25:21.520 So is that complicated the science of it? Or not? Not? Really? Okay, 0:25:21.840 --> 0:25:25.359 not really, it's not complicated because you know I lived 0:25:25.400 --> 0:25:28.800 it all, and you know I explained my explanations for 0:25:29.520 --> 0:25:32.480 everything I went through to because I wanted to leave 0:25:32.600 --> 0:25:36.440 up you know what I mean of a blueprint of 0:25:36.840 --> 0:25:39.200 how I made it, make it easier for the next generation. 0:25:39.240 --> 0:25:41.520 Now I heard it was a totally different version of this, 0:25:42.359 --> 0:25:45.920 and you decided not to do it because you felt 0:25:45.960 --> 0:25:48.320 like he was giving up too much. No, I had 0:25:48.440 --> 0:25:53.000 never heard that. Yeah, I'm showing me. Give me that 0:25:53.119 --> 0:25:57.120 question I'm doing. You know, the truth of the matter, 0:25:57.320 --> 0:25:59.160 all of it is not there, you know what I mean. 0:25:59.200 --> 0:26:03.400 I don't want to do a movie, so by yeah, yeah, 0:26:03.480 --> 0:26:07.200 that's my about Julia Beverley as wether Yea who could 0:26:07.240 --> 0:26:10.760 play you in the movie? Good question? I need I 0:26:10.840 --> 0:26:13.280 need your help. I definitely want to help, but I 0:26:13.359 --> 0:26:15.480 thought it myself at one point and then I said, no, 0:26:15.560 --> 0:26:17.360 I need a better editor. Better. You need a real, 0:26:17.560 --> 0:26:20.760 real actor, like you need this Zell to lose twenty years. 0:26:22.160 --> 0:26:24.800 I can see that. I think this will killing because 0:26:24.960 --> 0:26:30.600 he was already Yeah, Michael Jordan, Oh yeah, he can 0:26:30.680 --> 0:26:39.920 do it now, he can be a comedian. Oh it's biscuit. 0:26:41.480 --> 0:26:50.640 He saw Dominican from h l Oh. Nah, I think 0:26:50.720 --> 0:26:52.119 I don't even know what you're talking about. Really, but 0:26:52.520 --> 0:26:54.359 oh no, I know you need a real actor. You 0:26:54.400 --> 0:26:57.240 don't need no comedian nigga, I don't know, Sam Coach. 0:26:57.720 --> 0:27:00.040 You need a guy who could cry, who can you 0:27:00.080 --> 0:27:02.879 know and do everything like you know, Julie, there has 0:27:02.920 --> 0:27:04.800 to be something already in the worlds I would imagine, 0:27:05.119 --> 0:27:08.800 especially after Strata Compton success. Yeah, but I don't the 0:27:09.119 --> 0:27:14.959 actor hadn't been picked. You know, that's a that's important. Stories. Yeah, stories, 0:27:15.200 --> 0:27:18.720 correct appreciate it all right, So, um, what was you 0:27:18.840 --> 0:27:22.320 What was your favorite like act you ever worked? Because 0:27:22.320 --> 0:27:23.760 I heard you say that you worked with a lot 0:27:23.800 --> 0:27:29.480 of artists that you didversitally like, yeah, business, you know 0:27:29.480 --> 0:27:33.000 what I mean? Business sometimes you know, And I said, 0:27:33.080 --> 0:27:37.440 that too, like open the mind of others that you 0:27:37.480 --> 0:27:39.920 don't have to like every you know, business is business. 0:27:40.440 --> 0:27:42.600 So yeah, a lot of them I didn't like personally, 0:27:42.680 --> 0:27:45.720 but you know a few of my scar faces one 0:27:45.920 --> 0:27:48.680 you know what I mean, that's the homie love Pimp C, 0:27:49.119 --> 0:27:53.679 Love Bundy. You know, those guys was exciting, and they 0:27:53.680 --> 0:27:56.320 wouldn't really signed to you. They were signed a job. Yeah, 0:27:56.800 --> 0:27:59.480 and then you signed them as solo artists. Yeah, signed 0:27:59.520 --> 0:28:03.239 them at so Lo artists. When when Pimp C got 0:28:03.320 --> 0:28:06.440 locked up and Job didn't want to allow Bun to 0:28:06.560 --> 0:28:10.479 make a living really on a solo perspective and jobs 0:28:10.520 --> 0:28:13.640 even taking a free PIMPC campaign away from them. Yeah, yeah, 0:28:13.720 --> 0:28:17.120 so I convinced him to to let me put Bun 0:28:17.200 --> 0:28:23.399 out on a solo too. Yeah. And then and then, 0:28:24.560 --> 0:28:27.120 so what was that I heard the day PEPSI came out? 0:28:27.160 --> 0:28:29.160 You brought them to nothing brain go when you brought 0:28:29.200 --> 0:28:35.239 them too? Yeah, poem, Sorry, man, I brought you home 0:28:35.240 --> 0:28:40.760 in the limo. Man, I'm sorry, he went his phone. 0:28:40.760 --> 0:28:43.560 I'm sorry. Well, yeah, how was that? Because I could 0:28:43.560 --> 0:28:47.320 tell Pipsy was popping. Oh yeah, pimp C. I kind 0:28:47.360 --> 0:28:50.440 of called him the Southern tupop you know what I mean, 0:28:50.560 --> 0:28:52.680 I can see that. Yeah, I can see that. You 0:28:52.760 --> 0:28:55.600 know he was, he was off the chain. So he 0:28:55.720 --> 0:28:57.720 and I, you know why it was locked up with, 0:28:58.680 --> 0:29:02.440 have conversations on that day over release. So you know, 0:29:02.520 --> 0:29:04.520 I just kept my word once again, you know when 0:29:04.600 --> 0:29:09.280 he got bam set it all one thing that PEPSI 0:29:09.400 --> 0:29:12.640 sucked me up. To this day, I still can't get 0:29:12.720 --> 0:29:15.840 over with this. He said, you Atlanta, dudes, ain't even 0:29:15.880 --> 0:29:19.360 the South. It's not even It's the same time as 0:29:19.400 --> 0:29:21.960 old as East Coast. And to this day I would 0:29:22.000 --> 0:29:26.200 throw Miami in there. I can't get that out of 0:29:26.280 --> 0:29:28.840 my head. So do you think PEPSI was doing that 0:29:28.960 --> 0:29:30.920 on purpose or he was just he was just on 0:29:31.120 --> 0:29:33.400 one that day, you know, I think he was talking 0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:37.360 about the time, you know what, but them in the time, 0:29:37.600 --> 0:29:42.760 the Atlanta, Miami, New York on the same you know time. 0:29:42.880 --> 0:29:46.480 So yeah, So did you think he thought that just Texas. 0:29:47.520 --> 0:29:52.680 I've never I've never got over that. I'm never like, 0:29:52.920 --> 0:29:55.880 I was like, damn, that's right, just to a certain extent. 0:29:56.360 --> 0:29:58.680 Most of the South is on the East coast. Wow 0:29:58.960 --> 0:30:02.360 yeah yeah, but yeah, Viginia, because Texas is a huge 0:30:02.360 --> 0:30:05.800 as motherfucker State obviously said Virginia. As we speak about Virginia, 0:30:06.240 --> 0:30:11.920 you edited, I said edited, you ended the beef between Drake. 0:30:12.640 --> 0:30:17.960 I'm pushing I guess I guess you could say that 0:30:18.240 --> 0:30:31.000 because now, okay, that hasn't since it was there a 0:30:31.160 --> 0:30:34.920 phone call that happened. Well, I had an opportunity to 0:30:36.640 --> 0:30:41.520 speak with Kanye, you know, and of course because we 0:30:41.600 --> 0:30:45.080 heard Drake was saying he smashed Kim on it, that's 0:30:45.120 --> 0:30:47.320 what we heard. To the great bodies, what we heard. 0:30:47.480 --> 0:30:49.920 We don't know what we heard. I don't know we 0:30:50.000 --> 0:30:52.400 heard when we heard. We don't know. I don't know 0:30:52.400 --> 0:30:53.880 what I'm saying. I don't know, I don't know. I 0:30:53.920 --> 0:30:56.440 don't know. But I'm sorry because you know what I mean. 0:30:56.600 --> 0:30:59.200 That didn't you know that that was something didn't make 0:30:59.280 --> 0:31:01.600 sense for us, right, and I were moving use some 0:31:01.760 --> 0:31:05.680 moments ship, right, So we figured out how to circumvent 0:31:05.800 --> 0:31:09.240 that and keep it moving. Because I'm gonna be honest, 0:31:09.840 --> 0:31:12.920 that takes a lot of restraint. It takes a lot 0:31:13.000 --> 0:31:18.600 of discipline because you know, I don't fun with the 0:31:18.720 --> 0:31:20.840 social media like that I post or whatever, but I don't. 0:31:21.160 --> 0:31:23.600 But there's people who funk with that. And if you 0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:27.760 lost on social media sometimes you're losing life. Yeah, so 0:31:28.200 --> 0:31:30.920 I could imagine that week. Did you called Drake and 0:31:30.960 --> 0:31:34.600 I was like, Yo, we're not gonna respond? Yeah, whoop? 0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:39.120 How hard do you think it was? Because some people 0:31:39.120 --> 0:31:42.080 are saying that that that record couldn't existed because if 0:31:42.120 --> 0:31:44.080 it existed, they don't care about Push your Teeth, you 0:31:44.120 --> 0:31:46.520 know what I'm saying. If it existed, they would just 0:31:46.640 --> 0:31:49.040 drop drop it and just end Push your Teeth and 0:31:49.280 --> 0:31:52.200 and Kanye if it existed. But then some people was like, yo, 0:31:52.480 --> 0:31:54.840 why didn't he respond? So what was that week like? 0:31:54.880 --> 0:31:56.760 Because I'm sure people was hitting you on on that 0:31:56.880 --> 0:32:01.360 as well. You know, that was testament of the respect 0:32:01.440 --> 0:32:04.040 that he had for me, because he didn't He wasn't 0:32:04.080 --> 0:32:06.840 trying to hear that ship. Really he wanted to drop. Yeah, 0:32:06.920 --> 0:32:08.719 I mean you know how that is, and they can 0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:11.320 hit you you want to, So to me, that was 0:32:11.360 --> 0:32:13.560 a testament of the respect he had for me, and 0:32:14.280 --> 0:32:17.760 and I had to like, really, you know, let him know, Okay, 0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:20.240 I really mean this. You know what I mean? This 0:32:20.360 --> 0:32:23.160 don't make sense. And when we put it on the scale, 0:32:23.800 --> 0:32:29.120 it didn't make sense. It was as simple. It's kind 0:32:29.120 --> 0:32:32.560 of like, um, when Jay overdid it with nas with 0:32:32.680 --> 0:32:35.640 that second record, and he went to certain places about 0:32:35.760 --> 0:32:38.000 family and things like that. It kind of made him 0:32:38.080 --> 0:32:41.360 lose to be by default because of him bringing in 0:32:41.480 --> 0:32:43.440 other family members of him doing that. Is that how 0:32:43.520 --> 0:32:48.000 you felt with well and all losses some losses a win. Yeah, 0:32:48.000 --> 0:32:50.000 that's true. You know what I mean. It depends on 0:32:50.240 --> 0:32:53.680 your thinking ability where where all of that is concerned. 0:32:53.760 --> 0:32:57.520 And we you know, we couldn't get caught up in that. 0:32:58.200 --> 0:33:00.360 It was a moment, you know what I'm mean, We 0:33:01.120 --> 0:33:04.160 big pitching thinging, so we had to keep it moving. 0:33:05.080 --> 0:33:09.320 It makes it much. I know you talked about this 0:33:09.400 --> 0:33:11.360 a lot, but maybe for our audience and how how 0:33:11.440 --> 0:33:15.160 did that connection happen? You guys in Drake So yeah, 0:33:15.240 --> 0:33:17.800 I know, I know, but I just yeah, but you 0:33:18.320 --> 0:33:21.880 might not like, right, No, my son jas Prince broke 0:33:21.960 --> 0:33:25.200 me Drake and uh you know young Rake, Yeah, you 0:33:27.280 --> 0:33:28.880 was boxing at the time. I didn't even like him, 0:33:30.000 --> 0:33:32.760 you know what I mean. I didn't like it. I'm like, man, 0:33:32.800 --> 0:33:38.280 what do you this stude singing? Year He like, trust 0:33:38.360 --> 0:33:40.880 me on this one, daddy, you know the man he buzzing. 0:33:41.560 --> 0:33:43.240 So I had taught him since he was like this 0:33:43.480 --> 0:33:46.120 then parts of a buzz and rap a lot in 0:33:46.240 --> 0:33:49.600 all the meetings, and I'm calling around the world marketing meets. 0:33:49.880 --> 0:33:52.920 What's buzzing? What's buzzing? So you know, and I tell 0:33:52.960 --> 0:33:55.800 everybody my eel stood up like a German schefferd when 0:33:55.800 --> 0:34:00.400 he said he's buzz buzz right, I said, away from Canada. 0:34:00.520 --> 0:34:08.279 My ears went down. I called Canada, right, call the coach, 0:34:11.239 --> 0:34:13.080 you know what I mean. They confirmed the truth, and 0:34:13.160 --> 0:34:17.000 I'm like flyting home in As. When we flew him in, 0:34:17.560 --> 0:34:20.439 Wayne was in and bad rest and at that time 0:34:21.320 --> 0:34:23.000 you didn't know how he looked at less. So he 0:34:23.080 --> 0:34:25.040 walked to the door. He's like, I'll be sure that's 0:34:25.040 --> 0:34:34.839 what you thought. I didn't your brother, So why isn't 0:34:34.840 --> 0:34:37.239 it a wrap a lot of situation? Was it because 0:34:37.239 --> 0:34:39.600 you're in the boxing? Yeah? I had kind of you know, 0:34:39.800 --> 0:34:42.799 moved on and my son was on tour with Little Wayne, right, 0:34:43.160 --> 0:34:45.200 So I told him, I said, man, I don't want 0:34:45.280 --> 0:34:48.520 you coming home. You have to just get puss it 0:34:48.560 --> 0:34:50.880 and coming home, bro, you know what I mean. So 0:34:51.000 --> 0:34:54.080 I'm like, I told him how to go to Little 0:34:54.080 --> 0:34:56.440 Wayne and tell him what you want to start a 0:34:56.520 --> 0:35:00.400 rocket labor want him to be a partner fifty fifty Wayne, 0:35:00.480 --> 0:35:02.719 you know, been on the opportunity. And from there, I'm like, 0:35:03.080 --> 0:35:07.200 who your first artist? So he said Drake. So bam, 0:35:07.560 --> 0:35:10.279 that's how it all came from this. I say, take 0:35:10.360 --> 0:35:12.560 Drake on the road with you and the little Wayne 0:35:12.600 --> 0:35:14.879 to put his arm around and over the stage. You're 0:35:14.880 --> 0:35:19.000 telling me your mon introduced Drake to Wayne. Oh yeah, 0:35:19.120 --> 0:35:28.239 but your money. Yeah. Oh, y'all didn't know that. I 0:35:28.360 --> 0:35:31.800 thought this is what I thought. Yeah, I thought Drake 0:35:32.000 --> 0:35:34.759 and Wayne had a relationship, and then I think I 0:35:34.840 --> 0:35:37.480 thought Jazz came in after. I didn't know Jazz is 0:35:37.560 --> 0:35:47.440 connecting the role. That's what is arguable. Bro. Holy okay, 0:35:48.200 --> 0:35:53.040 Now Wayne, Wayne does the business. But we all know 0:35:53.200 --> 0:35:55.920 Wayne is an artist, right. We all know Wayne as 0:35:55.920 --> 0:35:58.040 an artist. We all know that when it comes down 0:35:58.080 --> 0:36:00.839 to the business, business and the big eating, he might 0:36:00.920 --> 0:36:05.520 not even beat it. Yeah, so it gets the bird man, right, 0:36:06.160 --> 0:36:08.759 bird Man makes all this money off off of Drake 0:36:10.000 --> 0:36:15.520 and then there's money old tip to your son. How 0:36:15.560 --> 0:36:20.520 does how does that not get worked out? Well? It 0:36:20.640 --> 0:36:23.040 gout worked out, you know what I mean. That's that's 0:36:23.120 --> 0:36:26.359 it's a done deal. Not everything that's has been done, 0:36:26.440 --> 0:36:28.799 but it was a process, you know what I mean. 0:36:28.880 --> 0:36:31.880 And I think it was a process because of the 0:36:31.960 --> 0:36:35.040 money they took before a drink came to the table, 0:36:35.600 --> 0:36:39.319 you know what I mean. They got hell of advance 0:36:40.040 --> 0:36:43.439 cash money or young money, cash money because young money 0:36:43.520 --> 0:36:46.879 is y'all coming now, Yeah, but young money is cash 0:36:47.000 --> 0:36:49.960 money when it when it came to that business thing, 0:36:50.120 --> 0:36:52.160 you know, And we got caught up in the mix 0:36:52.239 --> 0:36:57.279 of that because they had taken so much until you 0:36:57.360 --> 0:36:59.839 know what I mean, stayed looking at it like I'm 0:37:00.000 --> 0:37:03.080 all right, we got come pay. They they don't. They 0:37:03.120 --> 0:37:07.160 don't have it. And it's not the same discrepancy that 0:37:07.320 --> 0:37:09.040 y'all had that Wayne was having at the time of 0:37:09.120 --> 0:37:13.680 cash money as well. I don't really I don't really know. Yeah, 0:37:14.239 --> 0:37:17.080 but yeah, because that's that's the thing. It is, like 0:37:17.239 --> 0:37:20.719 this interviews, this documents of Baby saluting you. So I 0:37:20.760 --> 0:37:23.640 would imagine that's the automatic thing to do, is know 0:37:23.840 --> 0:37:26.640 that that's that's you with gods, even though your son 0:37:26.760 --> 0:37:29.040 is his own entity, you know what I'm saying. So, um, 0:37:29.600 --> 0:37:31.840 I always was curious about that. I know, you just 0:37:31.880 --> 0:37:33.720 said you worked it out here, you know, like Baby 0:37:34.520 --> 0:37:41.600 Slim Master, p Tony Draper, all these guys like my students, 0:37:42.160 --> 0:37:44.360 you know what I mean. So that's one of the 0:37:44.480 --> 0:37:47.840 reasons I wanted my son to do something with Little Wayne, 0:37:47.920 --> 0:37:52.120 because you know, I trusted the Homers in that situation. Uh. 0:37:52.280 --> 0:37:55.520 You know, once again, I think you know a lot 0:37:55.560 --> 0:37:58.520 of times as artists and recollect that we get that 0:37:58.680 --> 0:38:02.239 paper that and thinking that dough that's gonna perform the 0:38:02.360 --> 0:38:05.600 same way on the next album or whatnot, and ship 0:38:05.719 --> 0:38:09.560 don't happen the same damb Devil was advocate. Do you 0:38:09.680 --> 0:38:12.480 think that Birdman thought that it was Drake wo Old 0:38:12.480 --> 0:38:16.000 your son and not him. I'm asking, like, just being 0:38:16.040 --> 0:38:19.600 that was I'm just being that was advocate. You know. 0:38:20.040 --> 0:38:24.239 I made a real clear to him, okay that we 0:38:24.360 --> 0:38:26.919 need to have ours you know what I mean. We're 0:38:26.960 --> 0:38:31.400 gonna be no negotiating and dialogue and whenever. Whenever was concerned. 0:38:31.440 --> 0:38:33.920 And like I said, it took a process and we 0:38:34.080 --> 0:38:42.400 got ours. Got that makes so man, this is a 0:38:42.480 --> 0:38:47.320 lot bear Is that that Si you were having the 0:38:47.440 --> 0:38:54.800 weirdest Brazilian sililia Resilien fucking Carnegie all this is like 0:38:54.880 --> 0:38:58.640 some crazy but all right cool boom. At one point 0:38:58.719 --> 0:39:00.480 it felt like you and Drake the it fell out 0:39:01.520 --> 0:39:03.719 was was was that like that new artist because you know, 0:39:04.040 --> 0:39:07.759 at one point I was an artist too. Um, we 0:39:07.840 --> 0:39:10.600 started to think we did it on our own, and 0:39:11.320 --> 0:39:14.160 because because you know you're going platinum, you you know, 0:39:15.920 --> 0:39:18.640 we all we just needed we have done with that 0:39:18.760 --> 0:39:21.960 with Drake particularly, No, I can't think we had at 0:39:22.000 --> 0:39:25.160 a moment okay like that, well we fell out, okay, 0:39:25.360 --> 0:39:28.359 but I have experienced that with all Okay, yeah, man, 0:39:28.560 --> 0:39:30.880 shouldn't happen like when you put them on and then 0:39:30.920 --> 0:39:33.439 they just act like they bought your sneakers on their own. Yeah. 0:39:34.040 --> 0:39:37.480 I hadn't really experienced that with him. Okay, I hope 0:39:37.480 --> 0:39:46.120 they're not experist, but yeah, that thought I acted this earlier. 0:39:46.160 --> 0:39:48.359 But I think, um, I got cut off herself off. 0:39:48.400 --> 0:39:53.360 I think, um, what what was your favorite moments? Like, um, um, 0:39:53.719 --> 0:39:56.040 what artists? What was one artist that like when they 0:39:56.080 --> 0:39:57.640 said come to the studio, he was like, fucking I 0:39:57.719 --> 0:40:00.200 dropped everything and I went to the studio for them. Well, 0:40:00.239 --> 0:40:05.000 you know, one of my favorite moments wasn't about the 0:40:05.080 --> 0:40:10.120 studio was but it was about respect where the South 0:40:10.320 --> 0:40:12.920 was concerned. And it was with the with the record 0:40:13.000 --> 0:40:15.560 mind playing tricks, you know what I mean? Because it 0:40:15.719 --> 0:40:21.040 was like a lone hustle man to try and get 0:40:21.120 --> 0:40:24.839 respect where radio was concerned with doors slammed in our 0:40:24.880 --> 0:40:27.919 face over and over again. And finally to sit back 0:40:28.000 --> 0:40:32.279 and witness everybody embraced that song. You know, cityboy, we 0:40:32.360 --> 0:40:34.960 didn't have any of that social media, right, so we 0:40:35.080 --> 0:40:38.400 hit state by state, city by city and everybody embrace it. 0:40:38.920 --> 0:40:41.480 That was a beautiful filling. But I'm not gonna lie. 0:40:41.520 --> 0:40:45.120 And that's like the unofficial Halloween record every year, the 0:40:45.280 --> 0:40:48.640 Halloween unless you feel here that like I can't even 0:40:48.680 --> 0:40:50.479 get into it, Like I'm not putting on the costs 0:40:50.480 --> 0:40:56.200 and women. That's my Halloween shirt right there. Show, So 0:40:57.840 --> 0:41:02.200 damn is good to be against. Yeah, you rapped on that, Yeah, 0:41:02.280 --> 0:41:05.279 wrapped on that. It was a rapper wrapper. You know, 0:41:05.760 --> 0:41:10.040 I was using that about personal You was talking about 0:41:10.080 --> 0:41:13.799 going to the White House. Yeah, what was you want 0:41:13.880 --> 0:41:16.279 to rapper? At my point, I mean, I don't call 0:41:16.400 --> 0:41:23.680 myself a rapper, but I spit on that. Okay. I 0:41:23.800 --> 0:41:25.880 always wanted to do in the office and I hear 0:41:25.920 --> 0:41:28.640 that job. Yeah, And I wrote what's wick firsts on 0:41:28.800 --> 0:41:38.080 that and made it right? What's who you can't do? 0:41:40.400 --> 0:41:43.560 That's that's that's that's a legendary wreck. Now I want 0:41:43.600 --> 0:41:49.520 to say something for you, uh, for tr for for 0:41:49.680 --> 0:41:53.759 for you, for everybody from the South that don't think 0:41:54.080 --> 0:41:57.399 New York people will ever respect the South or don't 0:41:57.440 --> 0:42:01.440 ever respect your toth I am Warren and raised New 0:42:01.560 --> 0:42:04.000 York City. I've lived in the South for fourteen years. 0:42:04.440 --> 0:42:08.200 But if you cut me, I'm leading New York City. Yeah, 0:42:08.360 --> 0:42:10.120 I can't even get the accent. I'm trying to get 0:42:10.160 --> 0:42:15.000 your accident work. It won't even work. We respect your South. 0:42:15.560 --> 0:42:18.640 I think that y'all was taking a few bad apples 0:42:19.480 --> 0:42:23.040 and judge the whole New York about that. And that's 0:42:23.040 --> 0:42:25.319 what I'm trying to tell y'all, Like I love the South. 0:42:25.960 --> 0:42:28.000 A person that don't love the South has never been 0:42:28.040 --> 0:42:30.359 to the South. That's all You're arguing with people who 0:42:30.360 --> 0:42:32.640 have never left ninety third Street. Yeah, you know what 0:42:32.680 --> 0:42:34.640 I'm I'm saying. So if you want to talk to 0:42:34.680 --> 0:42:36.520 a person that never left n third that's all he 0:42:36.640 --> 0:42:38.600 knows in life's name thirsty. And there's a lot of 0:42:38.680 --> 0:42:41.399 New York dudes out there, But people like me, Bums, 0:42:41.520 --> 0:42:44.160 the Romes, fact Joe, who made a great living in 0:42:44.239 --> 0:42:47.000 the South. We respect usel, I think you're talking as 0:42:47.000 --> 0:42:48.480 an artist, and you can tell me if I'm wrong. 0:42:48.520 --> 0:42:50.920 I think the industry was a big. One of the 0:42:50.960 --> 0:42:52.680 first questions I hit y'all, Lemagne, and one of the 0:42:52.760 --> 0:42:55.600 first questions he hit me is, does Jay Press ever 0:42:55.719 --> 0:42:59.400 think that New York will respect the New York rappers 0:42:59.400 --> 0:43:01.359 will respect the South? And I said, I didn't want 0:43:01.360 --> 0:43:05.080 to ask that, man, but I'm asking with the question. 0:43:05.120 --> 0:43:10.320 I answer with the answer because like some of the 0:43:10.520 --> 0:43:13.000 greatest times I've ever had as me going to Texas 0:43:13.239 --> 0:43:15.239 and me calling some of young people, so they laying 0:43:15.280 --> 0:43:16.520 it out for me, you know what I'm saying. So 0:43:17.120 --> 0:43:18.719 I just feel like that's what it is. Like when 0:43:18.760 --> 0:43:20.400 T I said T I said it the other day too. 0:43:20.440 --> 0:43:22.279 He's like, because you know, New York didn't want respect this, 0:43:22.360 --> 0:43:25.759 and I'm like, that's just so false. You're taking it's 0:43:25.800 --> 0:43:27.959 ten people in the room, You're talking about the one 0:43:30.600 --> 0:43:33.040 entire industry that was picked up against the South and 0:43:33.120 --> 0:43:35.719 even the West at one point. I don't think it 0:43:35.920 --> 0:43:38.439 was that. I think that it was just so new 0:43:39.080 --> 0:43:41.680 at the time to remember it was new like we 0:43:41.840 --> 0:43:43.960 was used to x Clan, we was used to and 0:43:44.080 --> 0:43:45.840 then when we was when we heard in w and 0:43:45.880 --> 0:43:48.160 when we heard West Coast, it was about you know, 0:43:48.440 --> 0:43:50.200 but think about what you think about this. And again 0:43:50.200 --> 0:43:52.279 if i'm if you got a different perspective, please let 0:43:52.360 --> 0:43:55.080 us know. I'm saying, if the exects are born and 0:43:55.160 --> 0:43:57.360 raising New York and the artists are being then the 0:43:57.440 --> 0:43:58.920 A and rs are born and raising in New York, 0:43:59.160 --> 0:44:01.800 then that's the us to keep being signed to the labels, 0:44:02.000 --> 0:44:04.839 keep being put out, keeping programmed. They're not. They gotta 0:44:04.920 --> 0:44:07.839 understanding the South. That's why what happens is the West 0:44:07.920 --> 0:44:11.840 Coast roles, but roles and created basically their own industry. This, 0:44:12.400 --> 0:44:15.239 this is it. This is the way I feel about that. 0:44:15.960 --> 0:44:20.040 This is the deep part. Like I never felt that way. 0:44:20.200 --> 0:44:24.360 I never feel like the whole New York didn't, you 0:44:24.440 --> 0:44:26.799 know what I mean. I got like friends from New 0:44:26.880 --> 0:44:30.120 York that I know better what that's concerned. So it 0:44:30.320 --> 0:44:32.839 was a few you know what I mean, And that's 0:44:32.880 --> 0:44:37.320 the way it was. But I think it's everdent today. 0:44:37.840 --> 0:44:40.760 You know how New York I feel about South because 0:44:41.160 --> 0:44:43.799 a lot of New Yorkers, you know what I mean, 0:44:43.840 --> 0:44:51.160 I know so much gold yea change. We we never 0:44:51.280 --> 0:44:55.000 had what you called grills. We had cats which you 0:44:55.160 --> 0:44:57.040 take out the full, we take it out, you can 0:44:57.160 --> 0:45:00.080 take it out. Yeah yeah, and we have friends. But 0:45:00.400 --> 0:45:04.880 that all solid ship, that's all sounds. That's right there, 0:45:06.960 --> 0:45:10.359 right there, you know the side. I know a lot. 0:45:10.440 --> 0:45:13.640 That's my side by side. I got four waters with bills. 0:45:13.840 --> 0:45:18.000 My son requested his whole ship and he looked like juvenile. Here, 0:45:18.040 --> 0:45:24.080 I'm like, what the mill he's raising? Okay? And you 0:45:24.120 --> 0:45:26.600 know that that goes so deep because you know a 0:45:26.680 --> 0:45:30.800 lot of you know, New York, because your mother's grandmother. 0:45:33.600 --> 0:45:35.600 That's the reason why I kind of like I want 0:45:35.640 --> 0:45:39.239 to start this plight of New York. New York people 0:45:39.280 --> 0:45:41.520 sat in the balance because I get it. Back then, 0:45:42.120 --> 0:45:44.400 you know, we didn't have Instagram. We didn't have so 0:45:44.440 --> 0:45:46.439 if you got a bad attitude for one New Yorker, 0:45:46.560 --> 0:45:48.640 you described the whole New York as as such. But man, 0:45:48.680 --> 0:45:50.640 I'm in New York. You don't have to compare it 0:45:50.719 --> 0:45:54.040 to I compare it to um people from London and 0:45:54.080 --> 0:45:56.640 they go to the States one time and they go 0:45:56.760 --> 0:45:59.920 to Seattle, and because you know have States, isn't the States. 0:46:00.040 --> 0:46:03.239 That's how Seattle wants on that Wednesday, motherfucker that's not 0:46:03.320 --> 0:46:06.200 how everything is. Don't judge this, judges And they're like, 0:46:06.239 --> 0:46:08.000 because you never state, So I'm like, no, you don't 0:46:08.040 --> 0:46:09.879 know the states. So I'm doing, like what the people 0:46:09.880 --> 0:46:12.080 in Texas ain't doing. What the people doing in Brooklyn. 0:46:12.120 --> 0:46:15.640 People in Brooklyn ain't doing, but they're just labor that 0:46:15.760 --> 0:46:18.120 one experience is that one town that's y'all and they 0:46:18.239 --> 0:46:20.440 just say the states. And that's how I feel like. 0:46:20.600 --> 0:46:23.399 I feel like the South to a certain of steps 0:46:23.440 --> 0:46:25.879 still kind of can plains about how New York will 0:46:25.920 --> 0:46:28.520 show them love or or that, and I'm like, yo, 0:46:28.920 --> 0:46:31.560 fuckingplaining about the people that don't show love, which you 0:46:31.600 --> 0:46:34.719 should be shown the love to people who show Yeah. 0:46:35.239 --> 0:46:38.279 Because and like you said, Jake Press, I love this 0:46:38.320 --> 0:46:40.240 and just love the statement from you. I've been watching 0:46:40.280 --> 0:46:43.680 you for a week. She's just everything about you. He said, 0:46:44.120 --> 0:46:47.600 he feels like the West Coast it's a piece of bread, 0:46:48.680 --> 0:46:51.440 and the East Coast it's the other piece of brand. 0:46:52.200 --> 0:46:54.799 You can't have a sandwich without of the South at 0:46:54.880 --> 0:46:59.920 the meat in the middle, holding on trans and Tedious 0:47:00.080 --> 0:47:04.719 looked at that, just thinking that that was a real 0:47:04.840 --> 0:47:07.800 hard course. How did you think of that? Ana? Me 0:47:07.840 --> 0:47:10.600 and that ship just hard dog with it is. I 0:47:10.640 --> 0:47:15.279 couldn't argue with try to Mama, your dad and your foundation. 0:47:15.440 --> 0:47:18.040 You know what I mean, your root. We come here 0:47:18.320 --> 0:47:20.160 because you know why what it is like. We don't 0:47:20.200 --> 0:47:23.440 get to choose where we're from, so we all love it. 0:47:24.480 --> 0:47:26.880 But it's always falls from where we're from too. But 0:47:27.000 --> 0:47:29.080 we don't We don't never We don't never say the floors. 0:47:29.120 --> 0:47:31.000 We don't never say, Yo, you know, New York is 0:47:31.000 --> 0:47:32.920 the best city in the world. We got rats. We 0:47:33.000 --> 0:47:34.680 don't say that. We don't say the New York's the 0:47:34.719 --> 0:47:36.920 best city in the world, but the Manhattan apartment man 0:47:36.960 --> 0:47:38.840 has a couple of roaches. We don't say that. We 0:47:38.960 --> 0:47:41.160 just say the good thing. So I just want to 0:47:41.160 --> 0:47:43.279 be the person to say, man, please, we gotta change 0:47:43.320 --> 0:47:45.359 that narrative because we're all one. We should be all 0:47:45.440 --> 0:47:48.759 on the same motherfucker game. I said, already said it 0:47:48.840 --> 0:47:51.600 got there a game. But um, I haven't been watching 0:47:51.680 --> 0:47:55.800 the versus battles. Uh. I saw one of them. I 0:47:55.800 --> 0:47:58.040 don't remember which one it was. You know, I'm hearing 0:47:58.080 --> 0:48:01.000 him about t I okay, t I and g j okay. 0:48:01.040 --> 0:48:09.080 You know I gotta know that I wouldn't go get. 0:48:09.440 --> 0:48:14.000 But you've been from the southeast being your protege somewhat 0:48:14.080 --> 0:48:16.440 to speak, because I'm another problem. When I think of 0:48:16.480 --> 0:48:18.800 the kick of the South, I think of you. T 0:48:19.000 --> 0:48:21.800 I claims to kick of the South. Yeah, but I 0:48:21.920 --> 0:48:24.120 think of you. I know that's no dispecting my man. 0:48:24.520 --> 0:48:26.440 But what do you think of when you say t 0:48:26.640 --> 0:48:32.040 I against cheesy man? That's uh interesting blend you know, 0:48:32.160 --> 0:48:36.120 but Tia my homie, Jesus my homie too. And I'm 0:48:36.160 --> 0:48:43.200 gonna I'm gonna let their work speak for us exactly. Cream. Okay, 0:48:44.400 --> 0:48:46.279 who do you think Drake could do? A versus way? 0:48:46.640 --> 0:48:52.319 M Now, let me say this about Drake. I think 0:48:52.360 --> 0:48:54.880 he wanted the best I ever heard. Okay, you know 0:48:55.200 --> 0:48:56.680 that's that's a lot coming from you. And you don't 0:48:56.680 --> 0:48:58.400 even like when the first matter. Remember I mean when 0:48:58.440 --> 0:49:00.560 it comes to hits. Okay, yeah, I seen them all 0:49:00.920 --> 0:49:03.880 through hits like, yeah, nobody didn't nobody you know what 0:49:03.960 --> 0:49:09.120 I mean? Singing and rapping? Yeah, I meant different ship 0:49:09.880 --> 0:49:14.040 got Spanish, I got the Spanish to me. I'm telling 0:49:14.040 --> 0:49:16.920 you on a whole different frequency. I ain't saw no ship. Like, 0:49:17.040 --> 0:49:19.319 what do you do? What are you saying here? J prince. 0:49:19.360 --> 0:49:21.759 There's nobody could battle, so who bends who would be 0:49:21.840 --> 0:49:24.879 the best considered the best outside of the Drake Little 0:49:24.920 --> 0:49:29.719 Wayne Jay z Okay, I don't think Jay leaving his house. 0:49:30.239 --> 0:49:33.359 I don't think he's coming out first. I mean if 0:49:33.400 --> 0:49:36.400 he if he would like it, you know what I mean, 0:49:37.280 --> 0:49:41.600 they're on the same team. Now. I'm gonna kick you 0:49:41.600 --> 0:49:44.040 out the room. For a second. That was not a 0:49:44.120 --> 0:49:46.879 good I thought, you know what up? I thought about 0:49:46.920 --> 0:49:55.719 it for a second. I say, you know, whoever you 0:49:55.760 --> 0:49:57.480 put it from me gonna hold his zone. You know 0:49:57.520 --> 0:50:01.800 what's up with like Draker? Actually the battle to motherfucker, 0:50:01.920 --> 0:50:04.360 lets say bout himself. He can battle to motherfucker. He 0:50:04.400 --> 0:50:09.960 can battle in you Chris Brown or Trey songs with 0:50:10.080 --> 0:50:14.480 just R and B do's mo RMB against y'all and 0:50:14.560 --> 0:50:21.920 then I'm battling. I gotta be careful. I don't know 0:50:21.960 --> 0:50:24.640 who else is battling. But he could battle in the 0:50:24.719 --> 0:50:26.520 hip hop. What you think he did? That could happen 0:50:27.040 --> 0:50:29.200 now because nobody wants to lose two against one, like 0:50:29.239 --> 0:50:32.200 it's two much going hip Yeah, he can't battle nobody 0:50:33.239 --> 0:50:37.680 another genre. Speaking about of Michael Jackson, Michael jacks that's 0:50:37.760 --> 0:50:40.440 up in the head. Yeah you ever met Michael Jaglon No, 0:50:40.520 --> 0:50:44.640 I never meant Mike. I mean, yeah, she smells like peaches. 0:50:47.480 --> 0:50:50.320 You don't just have the jetted jack always. We always 0:50:50.360 --> 0:50:51.600 got Jetty. We love you get it that as s 0:50:51.600 --> 0:50:54.960 Authory Soth, how was this? I'm seriously smell like, oh 0:50:55.040 --> 0:51:02.880 my god, was ready? How did Janet Jackson experience? I 0:51:03.040 --> 0:51:06.879 met Janet one time, the Jackson Experience. I meet listen. 0:51:07.120 --> 0:51:09.480 I was using the studio. She was in the next studio. 0:51:09.600 --> 0:51:13.080 So she's so much for superstars. She made everybody leave 0:51:13.160 --> 0:51:16.000 the studio before she walked in, just to walk right 0:51:16.080 --> 0:51:19.239 past us. And no one had just told director, do 0:51:19.360 --> 0:51:22.560 not look at her eyes? What the fun is going on? After? 0:51:22.600 --> 0:51:25.239 About Chris Lady with Chris because light out there. I 0:51:25.320 --> 0:51:27.400 made six thousand all this on the chesters. They can 0:51:27.480 --> 0:51:29.840 give the outside. They're kicking us out. That's a penny 0:51:29.960 --> 0:51:34.000 walking through penny some good time to Chris, Like, if 0:51:34.040 --> 0:51:35.960 you're gonna get it that, let's talk about the Janets girl. 0:51:36.360 --> 0:51:38.160 What happened when she when she it was it was 0:51:38.239 --> 0:51:43.520 a pass by introductions, Okay, no special, just this a 0:51:43.560 --> 0:51:46.799 little back little it was did you say how did 0:51:46.840 --> 0:51:51.120 you get on the show introduction? You know? And oh 0:51:51.400 --> 0:51:55.279 god damn it, lots of going on. I've never been 0:51:55.320 --> 0:52:01.920 a pagan may bars. Okay, that's Janet, That's yeah, that's 0:52:02.000 --> 0:52:05.200 challenge Jane got. Damn holy holy Malcamore. I think that's 0:52:05.239 --> 0:52:08.160 who she's with them. Who's the most famous person that 0:52:08.640 --> 0:52:10.480 you met? And they knew who you was and they 0:52:11.480 --> 0:52:23.000 that sucked you up? Hm? My mother, I didn't even 0:52:23.040 --> 0:52:25.839 thinking that one. I don't do that. I didn't even 0:52:25.920 --> 0:52:33.040 dig it that one. So um ah, what's something happens 0:52:34.120 --> 0:52:39.480 in hip hop? For lack of a better term, You're 0:52:39.520 --> 0:52:44.160 like the farercon for lack of a better term, like 0:52:44.880 --> 0:52:49.279 the p ain't never heard the peacemaker. What I mean 0:52:49.400 --> 0:52:51.920 by that is you're the verses everyone could go to. 0:52:52.680 --> 0:52:58.720 Like my problem is every time I've ever went to Houston, Texas, 0:52:58.880 --> 0:53:03.120 I'm always called checked in prior. Yeah, so I'll say, yo, listen. 0:53:03.200 --> 0:53:04.719 You know I may not of people direct with you, 0:53:04.920 --> 0:53:06.600 but I'll be like, yo, I'm gonna be in the area. 0:53:07.480 --> 0:53:09.319 I think the problem is a lot of people call 0:53:09.360 --> 0:53:13.719 you after the problem curves. Yeah, am I accurate? Or 0:53:13.719 --> 0:53:16.200 a whole lot? You know what I mean? But I 0:53:16.239 --> 0:53:18.759 don't accept everybody calls, you know what I mean? They 0:53:18.880 --> 0:53:25.000 have to be family related some way. Okay, Yeah, so 0:53:25.640 --> 0:53:30.560 recently U nb a young boy. Yeah, I've seen a 0:53:30.640 --> 0:53:36.080 blog I believe are you're sitting there and you had 0:53:36.160 --> 0:53:40.040 the young boys jury. These guys, these guys came. So 0:53:40.120 --> 0:53:42.200 how does this happen? Because I don't understand what do 0:53:42.280 --> 0:53:44.360 they do? That is this? You're a personal line? You 0:53:44.480 --> 0:53:50.920 got like at the rap game? Wrong? Well over this 0:53:51.080 --> 0:53:55.400 this is like when you really street rooted, you know 0:53:55.400 --> 0:53:57.719 what I mean, when you like really street rooted, you 0:53:57.800 --> 0:54:03.239 could make calls and uh, people that respect you. You know, 0:54:03.360 --> 0:54:06.520 I find that ship it but give you information that's 0:54:06.600 --> 0:54:11.160 needed to you know what I mean to bring the 0:54:11.680 --> 0:54:14.920 results for certain ship. Right. So it's it's it's just 0:54:15.080 --> 0:54:20.760 another form of respect and layerty. Listen, lawyer and lawyers 0:54:20.880 --> 0:54:22.319 got there. Let's take a shot of lawyer. See I'm 0:54:22.320 --> 0:54:23.799 taking a shot, but you got damn it. I don't 0:54:23.800 --> 0:54:25.480 take a shot of that. That's right, it's I'm I'm 0:54:25.480 --> 0:54:27.560 a white drinker. Can you open this up for me? Lee? 0:54:28.440 --> 0:54:29.960 It's very true. We need a bottle girl. That's just 0:54:30.000 --> 0:54:33.000 how the law. We need a girl. I've told my wife, 0:54:33.040 --> 0:54:34.480 this is how bad it is. I'm told my wife, 0:54:34.480 --> 0:54:36.200 I said, listen, we need a bottle, girl. You gotta 0:54:36.239 --> 0:54:38.640 help us get one being can't have it from the 0:54:38.719 --> 0:54:43.560 era where the labels And this is you guys starting 0:54:43.600 --> 0:54:46.920 this movement of really pushing all these records locally and 0:54:47.480 --> 0:54:50.239 state level, on a local city level. What do you 0:54:50.320 --> 0:54:52.400 think the difference now? Do you do you see a 0:54:52.480 --> 0:54:55.920 positive in the streaming error today versus that error? I 0:54:56.040 --> 0:55:00.320 mean I think, yeah, I think it is it is, 0:55:00.520 --> 0:55:03.560 you know what I mean? And I think, uh, like, 0:55:03.680 --> 0:55:06.960 I'm a positive thinker, So I don't like going back 0:55:07.040 --> 0:55:10.799 to ship that don't exist. I think what exists right 0:55:10.840 --> 0:55:15.040 now it's perfect for the hustlers to take advantage of, 0:55:15.560 --> 0:55:20.160 you know, the opportunity that exists right now, and it's beautiful. 0:55:20.440 --> 0:55:22.680 Do you think these young boys even need to recolla 0:55:22.840 --> 0:55:28.279 at this point? Uh? I always think it's a good 0:55:28.400 --> 0:55:34.040 thing to control your destiny, you know what I mean? So, yeah, 0:55:34.080 --> 0:55:36.160 it's your ship. So I don't I don't see a 0:55:36.280 --> 0:55:41.040 problem with submitting to anybody never, but man, I never 0:55:41.200 --> 0:55:44.479 I never had that mentality where I wanted in any 0:55:44.560 --> 0:55:48.759 other way. Yeah, So, um, was the getting boys your 0:55:48.800 --> 0:55:52.640 first success. Uh, well I had a lot of success. 0:55:55.040 --> 0:56:00.319 Why uh, I would say so yeah, okay, So how 0:56:00.520 --> 0:56:02.719 is that because it's these three people who didn't know 0:56:02.800 --> 0:56:06.200 each other obviously, from different parts of the state to 0:56:06.239 --> 0:56:08.720 the parts of the city, and you get them together 0:56:08.880 --> 0:56:13.320 and it works. Yeah, it's all the praise going to 0:56:13.440 --> 0:56:16.040 you as all the praise going to the artists, and 0:56:16.120 --> 0:56:21.080 they've been the benefits. Yeah, never never eye and we 0:56:21.800 --> 0:56:24.800 you know what I mean, we we we've done everything together. 0:56:25.120 --> 0:56:27.560 You know what I mean. I wouldn't I wouldn't there, 0:56:28.000 --> 0:56:29.680 you know what I mean, take the credit, you know 0:56:29.719 --> 0:56:33.200 what I mean. Yeah, we was able to deal with 0:56:33.320 --> 0:56:37.600 all the challenges, all the trials and tribulations and conquer 0:56:38.080 --> 0:56:40.680 you know, all of that ship and you know be 0:56:40.840 --> 0:56:43.080 or what we built. We're taking the shot of this 0:56:43.200 --> 0:56:54.919 motherfucking loyalty with you. God damn it still man. Yeah, 0:56:55.040 --> 0:56:59.480 I like that, like watching that. Like it together. Baby. 0:57:00.120 --> 0:57:05.600 So so being an executive, how hard is it sometimes 0:57:06.480 --> 0:57:11.520 when the artist because you know, it looks good when 0:57:11.560 --> 0:57:14.600 the artist hangs out with you. And has ever been 0:57:14.640 --> 0:57:16.640 a time where he was burning so much money on 0:57:16.720 --> 0:57:20.640 this artist and he wasn't making you money? I mean 0:57:21.720 --> 0:57:24.040 that goes along with the with the game. You know, 0:57:24.200 --> 0:57:29.040 everybody's not gonna win, so you control that though calculate 0:57:29.120 --> 0:57:31.160 you know what I mean. You mean the artist does no. No, 0:57:31.880 --> 0:57:34.680 You as an executive, you control that the wind or 0:57:35.160 --> 0:57:40.200 you control how much money you're gonna burn, you know, 0:57:40.400 --> 0:57:42.840 being a being a good entrepreneur, you don't want to 0:57:42.920 --> 0:57:45.920 go over board where that ship. But that ship is concerned, right, 0:57:46.000 --> 0:57:49.640 It's it's not about feelings and emotions in this game. 0:57:50.320 --> 0:57:53.400 The business is business. So you have to be able 0:57:53.440 --> 0:57:56.680 to separate the two and keep that ship moving. Have 0:57:56.800 --> 0:57:59.440 you ever had to tell the person you're man, it's 0:57:59.480 --> 0:58:04.880 not working out and the ship no problem with that man. 0:58:05.080 --> 0:58:07.400 You know, that's that's part of the game. If not, 0:58:07.920 --> 0:58:11.640 you'll be broke. Yeah, because you know most artists they come, 0:58:11.760 --> 0:58:14.080 they leave a record label, they make this records and 0:58:14.800 --> 0:58:17.040 you know they happens. Ever been an artist that did 0:58:17.120 --> 0:58:30.680 that to you? I ain't really heard about it. Now 0:58:31.120 --> 0:58:33.480 I think she's here. I'm just all over the the 0:58:34.560 --> 0:58:37.760 the world with my questions. But what is the connection 0:58:37.920 --> 0:58:42.800 with you and Julia oh Man? Julia go Away back magazine. Yeah, 0:58:43.120 --> 0:58:47.040 you know, probably before Olson, you know, murder Julie Julie 0:58:47.280 --> 0:58:52.040 is uh. Julie always been a hustler in her own way, 0:58:52.560 --> 0:58:55.160 you know what I mean, And that that she built 0:58:55.920 --> 0:58:58.480 she had nobody helping her. You know what I mean. 0:58:58.640 --> 0:59:02.920 She stood on man, believe in herself and I respect 0:59:03.120 --> 0:59:07.479 you know, all creative minds. I don't give a damn 0:59:08.400 --> 0:59:10.280 where it comes from, you know what I mean. I 0:59:10.440 --> 0:59:13.960 just you know, game, respect, game contemn. So she she 0:59:14.120 --> 0:59:17.280 earned my respect by the thing she done. And even 0:59:17.360 --> 0:59:19.240 up until this day, you know what I mean, she 0:59:19.320 --> 0:59:21.680 still got that work as she still did with master P. 0:59:21.840 --> 0:59:27.000 They was arguing slightly. I like, I like your ground. 0:59:27.400 --> 0:59:31.640 I like it. I liked it. Have you ever had 0:59:31.680 --> 0:59:35.560 an idea that? Because I mean, honestly, um um Jake, 0:59:36.440 --> 0:59:38.520 when I read that she was twenty two years over 0:59:38.600 --> 0:59:41.960 the cart, or maybe even younger than that, that tells 0:59:42.040 --> 0:59:47.439 me off top you you think different, Like I really thought, 0:59:47.480 --> 0:59:49.600 I'm forty three years old. I really thought, I don't know, 0:59:49.720 --> 0:59:51.680 I don't know anybody wants a car? Car? It was 0:59:51.680 --> 0:59:55.240 that even your first business? No, I don't think that 0:59:55.360 --> 1:00:00.240 was my first business. I always thought, you know what 1:00:00.320 --> 1:00:02.720 I mean, he always had a different you know, from 1:00:02.760 --> 1:00:04.440 eight years old. You know what I mean, I was 1:00:04.520 --> 1:00:07.040 on some different ship. But then then a lot of 1:00:07.120 --> 1:00:09.680 the people that was older than me and hanging with me, 1:00:09.840 --> 1:00:11.680 you know I was. I was just on a different 1:00:11.720 --> 1:00:16.440 frequency that that come from a place from the creator, 1:00:17.400 --> 1:00:19.240 you know what I mean. I didn't, I didn't do nothing. 1:00:19.680 --> 1:00:22.600 That just was a blessing. Not your brother's name was sure, 1:00:22.760 --> 1:00:25.280 rapp a Lot. That's where you got rap a Lot? Right? 1:00:25.800 --> 1:00:27.720 Is he home? Because I thought it was twenty years ago? Right? 1:00:28.240 --> 1:00:30.360 You know, my brother done twenty some years and he 1:00:30.440 --> 1:00:33.640 got out and he went back. I think get doing 1:00:33.680 --> 1:00:43.840 another thirteen just you know, you know what I mean. 1:00:43.960 --> 1:00:46.480 But it's two things we get every day we wake up, right, 1:00:46.840 --> 1:00:49.720 a chance and a choice, you know what I mean. 1:00:49.960 --> 1:00:53.000 And the choices that he may after he get his chance, 1:00:53.520 --> 1:00:55.400 that's on him. He had to live with that because 1:00:55.400 --> 1:00:59.480 I know he like, man, that's my name, as I though, 1:00:59.600 --> 1:01:02.240 like they were living in your name rather like God. 1:01:03.040 --> 1:01:08.320 So did you understand how instrumental rap a Lot was? 1:01:08.520 --> 1:01:12.200 Like you know, to this day, anytime somebody say anything independent, 1:01:12.280 --> 1:01:14.040 they say, man, you're gonna do it? Like how rap 1:01:14.160 --> 1:01:16.560 a Lot doing? Like, do you realize how much you 1:01:16.720 --> 1:01:21.160 actually mean to the game? Um? You know, I think 1:01:21.240 --> 1:01:25.600 about the respect. That's uh, that's giving it something you 1:01:25.680 --> 1:01:29.120 can't buy it, right, you know, you can't buy respecting 1:01:29.200 --> 1:01:32.960 lawyer to So you know when I when I received that, 1:01:33.200 --> 1:01:36.360 I I think about it, But back then I wasn't 1:01:36.400 --> 1:01:39.000 thinking about none of that ship. Yeah, I want you to. 1:01:39.120 --> 1:01:42.240 I want you to really really like that, you really 1:01:42.440 --> 1:01:46.720 respected out it, but not just on some you know, 1:01:46.880 --> 1:01:50.160 street guard ship, on some businessman ship, like on some 1:01:50.320 --> 1:01:54.160 businessman ship like that was we never we had never 1:01:54.760 --> 1:01:58.400 We thought we thought that was a big gas conglomerate 1:01:58.520 --> 1:02:02.600 in Texas and y'all had like white money behind y'all. 1:02:02.680 --> 1:02:06.160 We had no idea that it was you there was 1:02:06.360 --> 1:02:10.000 this was your money, this was you your dream. Yeah, 1:02:10.320 --> 1:02:13.400 that's fucking crazy, man. Let's basal noise that I was 1:02:13.440 --> 1:02:16.760 taking a little shot at this motherfucking layalty. We talked 1:02:16.760 --> 1:02:21.200 about y'all being sugar and her getting together. But going 1:02:21.320 --> 1:02:24.400 further back, was it ever a time that you and 1:02:24.600 --> 1:02:28.680 Easy and Luke thought of getting together and doing something? Yeah, well, 1:02:28.960 --> 1:02:32.880 Luke was there when I started. You know what I mean, Luke, 1:02:33.480 --> 1:02:36.320 I'm right here in Miami right now. Look, we came 1:02:36.400 --> 1:02:39.200 to Miami and kicked it with Luke. So Luke. Luke 1:02:39.360 --> 1:02:42.200 was one that was there, you know in the beginning. 1:02:42.520 --> 1:02:45.400 He was also independent as well. Yeah, so independent. Matter 1:02:45.400 --> 1:02:49.320 of fact, me and Luke really laid out the blueprint 1:02:49.360 --> 1:02:55.520 of this independent ship. You know, big up to all 1:02:55.560 --> 1:02:58.360 the Homers everywhere, Eastern coast, everywhere. But they wasn't doing 1:02:59.040 --> 1:03:02.560 is independent ship. Yeah, he's because he was being artist. Y'all, 1:03:02.600 --> 1:03:06.440 was building motherfucker and they were speak up to Russell 1:03:06.520 --> 1:03:09.160 and all of them, but production deals, you know what 1:03:09.200 --> 1:03:11.200 I mean, they were gonna production deal. We were taking 1:03:11.240 --> 1:03:14.920 our hard earned doing everything because we didn't have access 1:03:15.640 --> 1:03:18.600 to warn of brothers and all them people, all the buildings, 1:03:18.680 --> 1:03:21.160 y'all was able to go in. But did you try 1:03:21.480 --> 1:03:24.320 or you you just said I tried and they they 1:03:24.400 --> 1:03:28.880 told me for me, you know what I mean. Just 1:03:29.160 --> 1:03:33.640 at the time, you know, underground music was disrespectful what 1:03:33.800 --> 1:03:36.080 they saying, like, you guys are too South, did y'all? 1:03:36.280 --> 1:03:39.680 And they were saying the ship too hard. You know, 1:03:40.080 --> 1:03:42.480 my name is putting out heavy melt on. You know, 1:03:42.560 --> 1:03:44.720 they were doing everything you know in the other world. 1:03:44.800 --> 1:03:49.200 But y'all can't do that. I can't say that. You know, 1:03:49.280 --> 1:03:51.000 we've done a song let the hope be a whole. 1:03:53.120 --> 1:03:56.600 And they didn't like that. You know, you shouldn't speak 1:03:56.640 --> 1:03:59.280 on letting the whope be a whole? Did you think 1:03:59.320 --> 1:04:01.720 about that? I need to music now. This is just 1:04:02.320 --> 1:04:05.840 they don't even want to make love no more. Just 1:04:05.920 --> 1:04:09.640 what I got to do. Look, damn, it's a kid. 1:04:09.840 --> 1:04:14.720 I don't like you. It would be this bad. I mean, 1:04:15.360 --> 1:04:17.560 I don't consider it bad. It's some different ships that 1:04:18.960 --> 1:04:23.200 come on, man, let's get with that, James. It's different. 1:04:23.320 --> 1:04:27.840 It's different ship you think about. I think about it 1:04:27.960 --> 1:04:30.640 though in the Motown era and wefferent ship like that 1:04:30.800 --> 1:04:33.960 when they was calling that ship bad. And it's just 1:04:34.040 --> 1:04:36.440 a different ship. And that's gonna continue to happen, right 1:04:36.640 --> 1:04:38.960 There's gonna be some more different ship after what you're 1:04:38.960 --> 1:04:41.400 here right now. It's very It's even in the Golden Area. 1:04:41.440 --> 1:04:43.560 It was fucked up ship in the Golden Area. There 1:04:43.680 --> 1:04:48.040 was a lot to us, but to somebody else they 1:04:48.080 --> 1:04:51.640 didn't say one one latest rag. They'd be another Latest Riches. 1:04:53.680 --> 1:04:56.440 That's not the truth. God damnit taking the shot at 1:04:56.440 --> 1:05:01.040 this motherfucking Lloyds. He got damnit solo Sole telling people, 1:05:01.800 --> 1:05:06.640 come on, we're getting party. Cut you a check. I'm wetting. 1:05:14.480 --> 1:05:17.600 So what was your first time you met with j 1:05:17.880 --> 1:05:24.480 Jack jay Z jay Z? Uh damn? Let me think, man, 1:05:24.520 --> 1:05:26.280 you know, I don't even remember the first time I 1:05:26.400 --> 1:05:30.040 met with jay Z. Can't tell us a good thing? Yeah, 1:05:30.360 --> 1:05:33.240 I tell you all interesting story. I don't I don't 1:05:33.320 --> 1:05:35.600 think JR. Man, I don't leave my n you know. 1:05:37.520 --> 1:05:41.000 You know jay Z. Then was they were signing with Praude. 1:05:41.120 --> 1:05:44.320 A lot of people went in there with Praude, got left, right. 1:05:45.200 --> 1:05:46.520 You know, a lot of people done a lot of 1:05:46.600 --> 1:05:49.040 ship that I've done. So you was that Priority first, 1:05:50.320 --> 1:05:52.720 mean and rightfully? So it was a good thing, right, 1:05:53.640 --> 1:05:56.880 So we'll get on boys. Yeah, okay, because gett boys, 1:05:57.320 --> 1:05:59.440 all of my ship right before Ruthless was over there, 1:06:00.240 --> 1:06:05.520 before all of that ship. Jesus So, so Jadam wanted 1:06:05.600 --> 1:06:10.760 a song with scar Face, right, and they convinced somebody 1:06:11.120 --> 1:06:16.240 from Priority to go directly to scar Face without communicating 1:06:16.280 --> 1:06:19.840 with me. That doesn't happen. I mean, that's not the problem. 1:06:19.920 --> 1:06:24.360 Way okay, okay. So so the guy when he got 1:06:24.440 --> 1:06:27.960 to the airport and hearston, I got calls that he 1:06:28.080 --> 1:06:31.960 was in the airport, right, I mean, imagine that ship. 1:06:32.160 --> 1:06:35.080 I like that no ship when you land, you know 1:06:35.080 --> 1:06:38.320 what I mean, because it's that deep, right, So the 1:06:38.520 --> 1:06:41.600 Instagram back that, ye, none of that probably was contacting you, 1:06:41.680 --> 1:06:48.720 but I don't kind of communication you. So A long 1:06:48.840 --> 1:06:53.560 story short, A long story short, he pursued his situation 1:06:53.760 --> 1:06:57.320 right and uh he was in a rich carse and 1:06:57.440 --> 1:07:01.640 from what I hear, and uh, it didn't go way 1:07:01.720 --> 1:07:07.960 up on because he didn't do ship protocol wise. Yeah, 1:07:08.000 --> 1:07:11.280 that's all I want to say about. Okay, I don't 1:07:11.280 --> 1:07:19.360 even know what happened, just that, so yeah, show what 1:07:19.520 --> 1:07:23.680 we're down. We met in directly without meeting. Oh and 1:07:23.760 --> 1:07:27.680 then we met, right if you feel me, I kind 1:07:27.720 --> 1:07:30.280 of yeah, I don't know what we're talking about people, 1:07:30.800 --> 1:07:34.040 but sometimes you have to leave it like there. Okay, 1:07:34.480 --> 1:07:40.080 it like that. So so you met Big although you 1:07:40.200 --> 1:07:44.840 did meet because there's also a story that you turned 1:07:44.880 --> 1:07:49.320 your tok box around like Big died, Yeah, and you 1:07:49.440 --> 1:07:54.320 went and spoke I think called puppy and you smoke 1:07:54.400 --> 1:07:56.280 the Big on his tok box or something like that. 1:07:56.360 --> 1:07:58.320 But you know what it was actually before he died, 1:07:59.400 --> 1:08:02.880 meant yeah it was then no, no, in the night 1:08:02.960 --> 1:08:05.680 it was it was actually probably a week or two. Okay, 1:08:06.120 --> 1:08:08.240 you know what I mean, I'm training a bus and 1:08:08.280 --> 1:08:11.600 I heard he was there, but like Big Puff, no, 1:08:11.720 --> 1:08:15.040 I considered them family, right, So when I heard that, 1:08:15.160 --> 1:08:18.360 I said, Okay, that's not a good idea for him 1:08:18.439 --> 1:08:20.880 to be you know what I mean. You know it 1:08:21.000 --> 1:08:23.960 was a bad idea. Yeah, in the lines, then through 1:08:24.000 --> 1:08:26.000 the streets, yeah, you know what I mean. So I 1:08:26.120 --> 1:08:29.479 wanted to personally let him know, you know, So I 1:08:29.520 --> 1:08:33.599 went to park, had a conversation with him. Hey, man, 1:08:34.800 --> 1:08:37.559 this is not and it looked vulnerable to me even 1:08:38.000 --> 1:08:41.240 at the video shoot. So I left Puff and went 1:08:41.320 --> 1:08:44.479 in on the bus with Big you know what I mean, 1:08:44.640 --> 1:08:47.160 Big getting high, you know what, I ain't doing the same, 1:08:47.840 --> 1:08:49.560 and I, you know what I mean, plant at that 1:08:49.680 --> 1:08:54.840 sea with him. Man, this ain't go home, This ain't ship, 1:08:54.880 --> 1:08:58.600 ain't set up right right, And and I left, and 1:08:59.040 --> 1:09:02.320 shortly after went that happened. I got a call from 1:09:03.120 --> 1:09:07.920 the investigators, almost assuming as if I had something to 1:09:08.000 --> 1:09:11.320 do with it, because because I want, individuals don't notice. 1:09:11.880 --> 1:09:15.560 So therefore they let me know somebody had a conversation 1:09:15.680 --> 1:09:19.600 with them to say, oh, he warned us of this, 1:09:20.400 --> 1:09:21.600 you know what I mean. And that was out of 1:09:21.680 --> 1:09:25.360 love that wasn't I had nothing in my heart vindictive 1:09:25.680 --> 1:09:29.479 for the home in them. You know, how about we 1:09:29.560 --> 1:09:31.920 wanted a little bit. But still on the same subject um, 1:09:32.400 --> 1:09:36.880 what was your relationship? Park was at home and at 1:09:36.920 --> 1:09:38.960 the time myseft Park he tried to get me to 1:09:40.080 --> 1:09:42.719 to go out with him. Old man, it just came 1:09:42.800 --> 1:09:47.519 home from prison, you know then that invitation. Yeah, so 1:09:48.720 --> 1:09:51.120 and he died a week later. Wow, you know what 1:09:51.160 --> 1:09:53.080 I mean? It was just at he invited you. This 1:09:53.200 --> 1:09:55.720 was in the l a ever actually went and had 1:09:55.760 --> 1:09:59.559 a meeting with we should go over at his office. 1:10:00.600 --> 1:10:03.720 So after the meeting, they wanted to go out and 1:10:03.840 --> 1:10:07.519 do their thing. But how did you like avoid the 1:10:07.600 --> 1:10:10.600 east coast West coast obviously from the south, but you 1:10:10.720 --> 1:10:14.479 have so much connections to both sides, like you could 1:10:14.520 --> 1:10:18.200 have easily been thrown in like and with rolled with 1:10:18.320 --> 1:10:21.360 either coast. I felt like you probably were working over 1:10:21.439 --> 1:10:24.840 time trying to stop happen. Was that work work for 1:10:24.960 --> 1:10:29.000 you during that time or was it like every day 1:10:29.000 --> 1:10:33.160 at work? You know, It's something that I wanted to 1:10:33.280 --> 1:10:37.840 intervene and be down with. And actually I wrote in 1:10:37.920 --> 1:10:39.760 my book where I had a meeting with Puffy and 1:10:39.840 --> 1:10:43.120 Jimmy Henshion, you know what I mean to the Holmes, 1:10:43.840 --> 1:10:50.280 and I was hoping we could find a meeting other 1:10:50.400 --> 1:10:53.920 mind situation where you know, I could bring everybody to 1:10:54.040 --> 1:10:58.439 the table. But after I heard the stories, you know, 1:10:58.640 --> 1:11:04.479 I couldn't. I couldn't stand in that position, knowing what 1:11:04.680 --> 1:11:07.920 I know. You know, it's like a lot of people 1:11:09.240 --> 1:11:13.240 sometimes they say, man, Nor, you're the only person that's 1:11:13.240 --> 1:11:15.920 cool with fifty cent a gile ruth. Yeah, like, I'm 1:11:16.000 --> 1:11:19.160 kind of cool with the cool the boat, and I 1:11:19.320 --> 1:11:22.240 just don't feel like this ship is wrap ship for 1:11:22.320 --> 1:11:25.640 me to intervene. I just I just stay out of it. 1:11:25.800 --> 1:11:27.920 Is that how you felt felt I mean what I mean. 1:11:28.000 --> 1:11:30.360 It could be close to that, you know what I mean, 1:11:30.439 --> 1:11:33.519 It could be deeper than that. And you know, puff 1:11:33.640 --> 1:11:37.879 the Homae right now, puff family a little shoot the homeade. 1:11:38.080 --> 1:11:40.880 I love him, But you know what I mean, that 1:11:41.040 --> 1:11:47.120 was a situation that, uh, I felt ship should have 1:11:47.200 --> 1:11:50.200 been done that wasn't done. And therefore, you know what 1:11:50.280 --> 1:11:53.360 I mean, I couldn't. I couldn't stand with a straight 1:11:53.439 --> 1:11:57.400 face and be like, hey man, you know what I 1:11:57.479 --> 1:12:00.479 mean that or right, I understand and know it's there. 1:12:01.640 --> 1:12:03.960 You know, the crazy shit about that and I'm so 1:12:04.120 --> 1:12:06.640 sorry to say this way, but I didn't think it 1:12:06.680 --> 1:12:09.800 was gonna go that far. I really did. I really 1:12:09.880 --> 1:12:13.040 didn't like, like, Big didn't think it was gonna go 1:12:13.120 --> 1:12:15.559 that far. I remember Big saying to me, nah man, 1:12:15.880 --> 1:12:20.120 because Big really didn't have to do He really didn't 1:12:20.120 --> 1:12:21.920 like So when I stepped the Big and I was like, yo, 1:12:22.600 --> 1:12:24.840 he was like, nah man, because I really didn't do that. 1:12:25.040 --> 1:12:28.120 So like he really didn't have nothing to do with 1:12:28.240 --> 1:12:30.800 the actual robbery that he was being accused up. And 1:12:30.840 --> 1:12:32.639 I'm telling you he had no reading from for quiz. 1:12:32.680 --> 1:12:35.240 I'm from Brooklyn. He would have said something to me 1:12:35.320 --> 1:12:39.720 real fast. But so and I know you're telling the 1:12:39.800 --> 1:12:42.960 truth from even deeper perspective, like I knew to do 1:12:43.160 --> 1:12:45.519 like and I swear to god, he didn't like. I 1:12:45.640 --> 1:12:49.439 was like, yo, manna I don't pocket him. He's like, man, no, 1:12:49.600 --> 1:12:54.400 you're not. He really like, because I think associated that 1:12:54.600 --> 1:12:58.479 situation with that one, that the one incident where I 1:12:58.680 --> 1:13:03.519 know for a fact Big ain't have did but as well, 1:13:03.680 --> 1:13:05.680 you know what I mean. But here's the thing, like 1:13:05.840 --> 1:13:11.400 with street naiveness, you know what I mean, street naive, 1:13:12.479 --> 1:13:14.120 that's hard, you know what I mean? And it was 1:13:14.320 --> 1:13:19.240 naive for them to be out there, you know what 1:13:19.280 --> 1:13:22.000 I mean, and be there the way I saw them, 1:13:22.120 --> 1:13:24.040 both of them. Yeah, you know what I mean. It 1:13:24.160 --> 1:13:28.880 was naive to not have proper structure around you under 1:13:28.920 --> 1:13:32.720 those circumstances. I saw it. I tried to you know, 1:13:32.880 --> 1:13:35.760 way the flag, you know what I mean. You're like, hey, man, 1:13:37.280 --> 1:13:40.400 go home. You know what I mean, And you know 1:13:40.520 --> 1:13:42.960 it is what it is to day. But we can 1:13:43.080 --> 1:13:46.320 learn from that and keep it moving. That makes a look. 1:13:48.280 --> 1:13:54.360 But now that we're around the deep area, here's a day, Well, 1:13:54.439 --> 1:14:05.120 I want to ask you about we sore the lean epidemic. Yeah, 1:14:05.160 --> 1:14:12.800 what I believe in Texas, go listen, I'm got on 1:14:13.120 --> 1:14:16.439 with him. Eight ball and m j G. Like in Japan, 1:14:16.520 --> 1:14:18.640 I'm telling about this is like fifteen years ago. The 1:14:19.320 --> 1:14:23.280 leg like like what is that? Yeah, they're called the 1:14:23.360 --> 1:14:26.840 tossing back then. And let me tell you something. What 1:14:26.880 --> 1:14:29.960 what eight one? MG? But which one is the big one? 1:14:30.040 --> 1:14:40.040 Eight ball? From Japan to JFK sixteen hours straight? The 1:14:40.160 --> 1:14:43.000 white ladies seeing us all board together, I go to 1:14:43.120 --> 1:14:46.880 the bathroom. She taps me. She says, yo, frien A 1:14:47.120 --> 1:14:54.120 move for sixteen So I'm like, what I'm not. I'm 1:14:54.120 --> 1:14:56.759 about used to this. I'm gonna we drink all English. 1:14:57.040 --> 1:14:58.760 So I'm like, what are you talking about? Saying he 1:14:58.880 --> 1:15:03.080 hasn't moved, she said, I'm not Like She's like, I 1:15:03.120 --> 1:15:04.680 don't know what's going on. So I don't know what 1:15:04.800 --> 1:15:07.280 to do. So I go to m j G. I'm like, yeah, 1:15:09.040 --> 1:15:10.880 so we had to go like this under his nose 1:15:11.439 --> 1:15:14.519 and and like he wouldn't wake up, but you knew 1:15:14.560 --> 1:15:17.120 he was alive. And that was the first time I 1:15:17.240 --> 1:15:21.719 had ever came across I came across the lean Or Scissor, 1:15:21.840 --> 1:15:25.639 but whatever, these it's all the same ship. This goddamn 1:15:25.760 --> 1:15:30.120 laarder take out of me feeling I'm gonna taken shot. 1:15:35.080 --> 1:15:37.680 So I'm sorry. Um so, I'm sorry to be all 1:15:37.720 --> 1:15:41.400 over the place, but I'll take your time. PEPSI, you'll 1:15:41.439 --> 1:15:43.760 be in the big homee. They call you the sat 1:15:43.840 --> 1:15:50.560 Pepper in l A. And was this something that you 1:15:50.680 --> 1:15:57.920 felt like, because yeah, it's it's twitter hair Well, I 1:15:58.040 --> 1:16:02.800 just recently lost one of my friends. Yeah, we sorry 1:16:02.880 --> 1:16:05.240 to think Roster, we just we see and I saw 1:16:05.360 --> 1:16:08.680 his problem, yeah, but I didn't address it because he 1:16:08.840 --> 1:16:11.720 was in pain. Yeah, like he was in a wheelchair. 1:16:12.640 --> 1:16:14.720 So I've seen when he was taking certain medications and 1:16:14.840 --> 1:16:17.640 things like that, and I felt like I should have 1:16:17.680 --> 1:16:20.880 stepped up a lot more. Is that the case with it? 1:16:20.960 --> 1:16:23.840 Did you see Pimp going down or he kept that 1:16:23.880 --> 1:16:26.120 away from you because you're the big home. No, you 1:16:26.200 --> 1:16:31.519 know that piece right there is not would happen to Pimp. 1:16:32.000 --> 1:16:36.160 I think Pimp. I think he had kind of comfort 1:16:36.760 --> 1:16:39.680 that Lean situation. You know, one of the things he 1:16:39.800 --> 1:16:43.280 and I had conversations about while he was locked up 1:16:43.360 --> 1:16:46.280 over and over again that you know what I mean, 1:16:46.520 --> 1:16:49.120 that wouldn't be an issue for And I don't believe 1:16:50.280 --> 1:16:54.840 that is what contributed to his situation. But you know, 1:16:55.040 --> 1:16:59.360 Lean is like a chief version of Heroin. You know 1:16:59.400 --> 1:17:02.800 what I mean? What is invented in Texas? Oh? No, 1:17:03.160 --> 1:17:07.320 you mean damn that thinking? I mean screw in the 1:17:07.400 --> 1:17:10.960 home music in that sense was Yeah, I ain't never 1:17:11.040 --> 1:17:13.960 heard of it ship in fol Texas. Okay, so you 1:17:14.040 --> 1:17:16.200 know we own that. So what was the first time 1:17:16.240 --> 1:17:19.320 you heard it? Lead though? Uh, and then I'm gonna 1:17:19.320 --> 1:17:22.479 get back to Pam. I'm sorry. I think the first 1:17:22.560 --> 1:17:26.400 time I heard of it was connected with screw with School. 1:17:26.560 --> 1:17:33.760 Screw School. Think it's there you do it school. Yeah, 1:17:34.320 --> 1:17:36.160 I could have been before, you know what I mean, 1:17:37.160 --> 1:17:40.160 because we related it when we heard Screw. Yeah, that 1:17:40.320 --> 1:17:43.280 slowed down musically like what's a lot? We didn't think 1:17:43.320 --> 1:17:46.960 you was crazy? We said, what's rude because we didn't 1:17:47.040 --> 1:17:49.800 understand that that went with the lead, like if you 1:17:49.880 --> 1:17:54.960 won't leave, that's it's chopped the screw correctly. So the 1:17:55.000 --> 1:17:56.960 first time you've seeing somebody only in all you see, 1:17:58.000 --> 1:18:00.439 what was your reaction? That was heron You knew what 1:18:00.479 --> 1:18:03.559 you knew? You know, I understood and come my dad 1:18:03.680 --> 1:18:06.519 explained that ship to me. You know what I mean, 1:18:06.600 --> 1:18:08.599 He really gave me the game. He said, they really 1:18:08.640 --> 1:18:11.640 wants some hair run, but they with the cheap vers, 1:18:12.560 --> 1:18:14.960 you know what I mean, A screw but Screw. You know, 1:18:15.120 --> 1:18:19.200 Screw was a real intelligent, unique guy man, even in 1:18:19.280 --> 1:18:21.840 the Mr Lean you know what I mean. I had 1:18:21.840 --> 1:18:24.599 an opportunity to meet that brother. I had to tell 1:18:24.680 --> 1:18:29.040 his story. You know, DJ Screw ain't no told his 1:18:29.160 --> 1:18:34.080 story at least but DJ Screw. When I met Dj Screw, 1:18:36.000 --> 1:18:43.640 DJ Screw was being uh extorted by an artists that 1:18:43.880 --> 1:18:47.000 was connected with me and I didn't know nothing about 1:18:47.040 --> 1:18:49.840 the ex story. But that was the one supposed to 1:18:49.920 --> 1:18:53.720 be extorting it. So it was because you're in yeah, DJ, 1:18:54.320 --> 1:19:00.240 he was paying artists right a monthly, no real ship 1:19:00.600 --> 1:19:03.560 because they was connected to you. Yeah, because because I 1:19:03.800 --> 1:19:12.280 was artist, was telling him that I had that. So 1:19:12.680 --> 1:19:14.679 after he and I had an opportunity to get together 1:19:14.720 --> 1:19:18.040 in my office, I'm looking at the staff right, and 1:19:18.120 --> 1:19:20.000 then he's sitting and looked at He said, Man, you 1:19:20.080 --> 1:19:23.160 ain't nothing like they say you are, right, So I'm 1:19:23.240 --> 1:19:26.680 like what you mean? And he broke that ship down 1:19:26.840 --> 1:19:29.479 to me, say, man, I've been that, you've been getting 1:19:29.520 --> 1:19:34.160 your money. I don't know nothing about your ship. Like 1:19:34.280 --> 1:19:35.880 a lot of ship go on. You know what I 1:19:36.000 --> 1:19:40.800 mean that I don't know nothing about it, like you know, 1:19:41.080 --> 1:19:43.360 screw you up. You know, I end up falling a 1:19:43.400 --> 1:19:46.000 little with screw man, you know what I mean. But 1:19:47.360 --> 1:19:50.519 I just had to say that ship, you know, artists 1:19:50.640 --> 1:19:55.439 was storing him. Yeah, using your name. Yeah, I'm not 1:19:55.520 --> 1:19:57.280 going to ask for the artist. This is what I 1:19:57.439 --> 1:20:01.519 want to ask. I'm not gonna do it. Do let 1:20:01.600 --> 1:20:04.240 me say this about it. He did. Okay, God bless 1:20:06.400 --> 1:20:15.880 that he's not here. Question, so are you gonna jump 1:20:15.920 --> 1:20:18.920 back in the boxing game if I ain't never left 1:20:18.960 --> 1:20:22.080 you never lied, you know, that's my first love. Okay. 1:20:22.479 --> 1:20:26.200 What the music? Yeah, a little boxing? I love boxing too. Yeah, 1:20:26.400 --> 1:20:30.240 so what's happening now in boxing? Are they're gonna put 1:20:30.280 --> 1:20:34.000 people in their seats? No audience? What Chico just got 1:20:34.080 --> 1:20:40.600 sucked up right here? You ain't that? I got so 1:20:40.800 --> 1:20:43.280 many of us she of course Stevenson, Okay, you know 1:20:43.280 --> 1:20:45.160 what I mean, along with Jerry, I got I got 1:20:45.240 --> 1:20:48.680 the future in the headlock, and we're looking forward to 1:20:49.600 --> 1:20:53.240 seeing them rise and do what they're gonna do. They 1:20:53.280 --> 1:20:55.720 thought nor Mochico was the next Floyd May brother. They 1:20:55.800 --> 1:20:59.599 found out early that's not possible nowhere in there flow 1:20:59.760 --> 1:21:04.200 no with man Floyd right then she cour Stevenson kor 1:21:04.280 --> 1:21:08.800 Stevenson specially okay, and what with the vision here one 1:21:08.960 --> 1:21:12.120 thirty okay, so that's super fathom when I's gonna yeah 1:21:12.200 --> 1:21:15.280 Featherway Feathery, Yeah, got them, you know, and I know 1:21:15.400 --> 1:21:16.840 my ship. You know what saying. I'm over here. You 1:21:16.880 --> 1:21:18.400 know what I'm saying. I know you know your boxing 1:21:18.479 --> 1:21:20.559 to brother, I'm watching you, brother, you know what saying. 1:21:20.600 --> 1:21:25.200 God damnit, some nors watching money got damn. So it 1:21:25.360 --> 1:21:27.559 also told me you got your own island. You got, 1:21:27.720 --> 1:21:30.479 you got Jake Prince Island. Yeah, I got that couple 1:21:30.520 --> 1:21:39.400 of a couple of damn you. It's some funny ship 1:21:39.439 --> 1:21:41.680 about the island ship. Right, I used to I used 1:21:41.680 --> 1:21:44.400 to tell home. I used to dreaming this ship understand 1:21:44.479 --> 1:21:48.280 everything that we normally accomplished, even this drink Champ. You 1:21:48.439 --> 1:21:50.720 dream of that ship before it came to fruition and right, 1:21:50.880 --> 1:21:54.000 I believe in sometimes niggas a laugh about your dreams. Right. 1:21:54.560 --> 1:21:56.559 So I was on some olive ship. Man, I want 1:21:56.600 --> 1:22:00.160 the island. One day we have pigs and there out 1:22:00.200 --> 1:22:04.519 with picks. Ship come to fruition and and you know, 1:22:04.680 --> 1:22:09.639 niggas left with their mouthful. They laugh at drink Champs. 1:22:10.080 --> 1:22:18.240 French islands. Got that? I like? Please? Oh you know 1:22:18.360 --> 1:22:20.920 Shine about to be the governor. Yeah, yeah, I kicked 1:22:20.960 --> 1:22:25.160 it with Shina. Yeah I want Shine, but I want 1:22:25.200 --> 1:22:28.680 Shine to become elected officer to believes. But we can't 1:22:28.680 --> 1:22:31.160 sm weed on camera because he's an elected of Fisher. 1:22:31.240 --> 1:22:34.439 Now we can't. We can't have we get a drug. 1:22:34.840 --> 1:22:37.000 I'm getting drup. But I think some people still frown 1:22:37.120 --> 1:22:39.639 upon on weed and services. You know what this is medical? 1:22:40.960 --> 1:22:44.639 Better do it on his Island on his prison press 1:22:44.760 --> 1:22:55.840 laws prison, So you did I know this is a 1:22:55.880 --> 1:22:59.799 weird question. We think gun control needs to be fixing America. 1:23:01.800 --> 1:23:07.320 Gun control, Yeah, because I agree, would everybody be able 1:23:07.479 --> 1:23:09.960 to have a gun who can protect their family. But 1:23:10.120 --> 1:23:12.479 there's the people that you find just to see that's 1:23:12.600 --> 1:23:15.240 nuts and shooting other places. People that got three day 1:23:16.080 --> 1:23:19.160 gun license and just so what do you feel about that? 1:23:19.360 --> 1:23:21.160 I know Texas a big gun state. I was in 1:23:21.240 --> 1:23:23.000 the subway one time. I've seen the white boy just 1:23:23.080 --> 1:23:27.639 fat us going out. What the is going on? Nothing? Yeah, 1:23:28.160 --> 1:23:31.479 I mean I love Texas laws of concern, you know 1:23:31.520 --> 1:23:35.000 what I mean. You know where a structure need to 1:23:35.080 --> 1:23:38.639 be uh in place and put the ship in place, 1:23:39.479 --> 1:23:41.839 you know what I mean. But for as Texas laws, 1:23:42.640 --> 1:23:45.600 I love Texas law. Okay, what a Texas law, the 1:23:45.680 --> 1:23:48.720 little Texas law. You can carry some ship, you know 1:23:48.760 --> 1:23:55.080 what I mean. It's open carrying you. But in Texas, 1:23:56.200 --> 1:23:58.160 of course, you can get a gun license and do 1:23:58.479 --> 1:24:01.760 you know carring everywhere for even without a gun lights 1:24:01.800 --> 1:24:03.599 and you can carry that in your call unlike New 1:24:03.720 --> 1:24:06.680 Yall here here as well with other license you can 1:24:06.720 --> 1:24:12.080 have three steps three yeah, yeah, yeah, you can have 1:24:12.320 --> 1:24:15.000 that ship in Texas. You know what I mean, we 1:24:15.479 --> 1:24:18.839 kill animals and ships. Yea, even a south By Southwest 1:24:18.880 --> 1:24:22.720 they got long guns walking around. I don't go to 1:24:22.800 --> 1:24:33.080 south bast Get But I want to talk about checking in. 1:24:35.680 --> 1:24:38.519 A lot of people look at checking in as if 1:24:38.600 --> 1:24:42.040 that's a bad thing. Yeah, I want you to. I 1:24:42.200 --> 1:24:45.559 love checking that because if you come and who's supposed 1:24:45.560 --> 1:24:49.240 to check in? What I'm like, Man, I got a 1:24:49.560 --> 1:24:51.479 hold lot of pinions, but I wanted to start with 1:24:51.560 --> 1:24:54.200 the big home. Yeah, like like with me, I don't 1:24:55.880 --> 1:24:58.639 that's up to the individual. You know what I mean. 1:24:58.680 --> 1:25:01.799 I don't try to impoll When I was in my twinnes, 1:25:01.880 --> 1:25:03.760 I had a different state of mind that I had 1:25:03.920 --> 1:25:09.439 right now, right, I mean, that ship happens. Uh, it's 1:25:09.439 --> 1:25:14.840 an asset to come in and have relationships with individuals 1:25:14.880 --> 1:25:17.680 in the city that you're coming into, and anybody to 1:25:17.840 --> 1:25:20.320 understand that as a fool, you know what I mean? 1:25:20.479 --> 1:25:24.880 If your fool, then sometimes bad news, yeah, you know what, 1:25:25.439 --> 1:25:31.920 Sometimes bad news beat news beat your home. It's hard. 1:25:34.880 --> 1:25:37.640 But but I don't, you know, I don't require that 1:25:37.720 --> 1:25:40.679 ship that it's up to it. But why do people 1:25:40.800 --> 1:25:45.519 fit check it in? It's a bad day because a 1:25:45.640 --> 1:25:48.880 lot of people thinking ability you know, only go up 1:25:48.920 --> 1:25:51.200 to a certain floor, you know what I mean, And 1:25:51.880 --> 1:25:54.400 if your elevator only go up so high, then you 1:25:55.200 --> 1:25:58.720 you you short circuit on different ship, right, So you 1:25:59.000 --> 1:26:02.400 you started, you start like alligning your pride and different 1:26:02.439 --> 1:26:07.240 ship to like make something bad I mean or something 1:26:07.320 --> 1:26:09.680 good good? Yeah, you know what I mean. You turn 1:26:09.760 --> 1:26:13.680 to miss the mean into a felony unnecessarily because just 1:26:13.880 --> 1:26:19.479 just think about the logic to it. I go to 1:26:19.600 --> 1:26:25.479 Houston last dame, I'm in time. That's respect to me. 1:26:26.240 --> 1:26:28.680 He might be busy. You might say, man, you need 1:26:28.720 --> 1:26:32.320 somebody want you or I'm good. I'm you know, I'm 1:26:32.320 --> 1:26:36.200 going to Galeria, gonna check in. I'm good. The brand 1:26:36.320 --> 1:26:38.160 means something. But this is what I'm trying to say. 1:26:38.200 --> 1:26:42.880 So now what happens is now most people go and 1:26:42.920 --> 1:26:45.800 then they go to queens. Oh, then they go to 1:26:45.880 --> 1:26:48.200 to the box and then they hit me. After that, Man, 1:26:48.680 --> 1:26:51.000 I was hanging out with dude, I thought was your friend. 1:26:52.320 --> 1:26:57.280 Hey man, he wasn't so friend. What do you think 1:26:58.280 --> 1:27:04.760 that he? Yeah, looks for squirrels same as animal and 1:27:04.840 --> 1:27:07.960 you chose that ain't got on animals and you didn't 1:27:07.960 --> 1:27:11.320 call me. Yeah, it's not a problem. Yeah, I mean, 1:27:12.920 --> 1:27:17.040 it depends on the for a lot of times, you 1:27:17.080 --> 1:27:20.000 know what I mean, when you are choosing to do 1:27:20.080 --> 1:27:22.160 it your way. You know a lot of people think 1:27:22.240 --> 1:27:24.800 they're tougher than you, know what I mean. They're like, oh, 1:27:24.920 --> 1:27:27.200 in case sh it happened to me, you know what 1:27:27.240 --> 1:27:31.120 I mean, and then ship happened to him and they 1:27:31.200 --> 1:27:34.280 have a change of heart. But I think the wise 1:27:34.360 --> 1:27:36.960 thing to do, and even with me, you know what 1:27:37.040 --> 1:27:40.880 I mean, I'm always looking for connections and relationships that 1:27:40.960 --> 1:27:45.439 I have in different respect for ship too, to move 1:27:45.600 --> 1:27:48.960 smoothly with nothing wrong with that. I think Dreamer Champs 1:27:49.000 --> 1:27:53.040 work is because I knew we shoot these years, we've 1:27:53.200 --> 1:27:56.960 met people that show love and it's it's nothing wrong 1:27:57.040 --> 1:27:59.720 with that. Like I think me and you got close 1:27:59.760 --> 1:28:02.960 because us. Every time I came to Miami, I did 1:28:03.040 --> 1:28:05.080 not buy anybody else's weeds. I don't know you didn't 1:28:05.080 --> 1:28:10.320 sell weed. But I love you. I love you. I 1:28:10.400 --> 1:28:15.040 can see it from you like you know and whatever, 1:28:15.160 --> 1:28:17.559 you know what and more than me for ever having 1:28:17.640 --> 1:28:20.519 problems in Miami, I noticed that when people come to 1:28:20.640 --> 1:28:23.200 a certain people city, so you know what's associated with 1:28:23.280 --> 1:28:27.320 somebody and it helps they again, who checks it? Because 1:28:27.320 --> 1:28:29.600 for example, we're talking this and someone's gonna listen and 1:28:29.880 --> 1:28:32.400 Forest he gonna go to Houston and he's gonna try 1:28:32.400 --> 1:28:38.320 to call Jake Preston check. He's like, I'm going back 1:28:38.320 --> 1:28:41.960 to my because you see, you see Jake Preston's homies. 1:28:42.320 --> 1:28:45.120 That's the way. That's what I'm said. A lot of rappers, 1:28:45.479 --> 1:28:47.719 I don't even have they number. I have their homies. 1:28:47.760 --> 1:28:51.599 I have this street guy from their crew number with them. 1:28:52.200 --> 1:28:54.280 That's why, you know what I'm saying. That's why I 1:28:54.320 --> 1:28:56.200 relate to a little bit more like I don''t know 1:28:56.280 --> 1:28:58.360 how to go Hollywood. I've been trying for twenty years. 1:28:58.720 --> 1:29:00.879 I've been trying anything. I've been trying to go anyway. 1:29:00.920 --> 1:29:04.160 World work. I think lords work. But I just don't 1:29:04.240 --> 1:29:09.040 understand how certain people say, well, well i'm gonna go 1:29:09.080 --> 1:29:11.280 to the town. I'm gonna just live like that's that's 1:29:11.320 --> 1:29:15.080 like ignorant to me. Yeah, well, food of food, despised wisdom, 1:29:15.800 --> 1:29:17.880 you know what I mean. Sometimes you can't stop him 1:29:17.880 --> 1:29:20.639 from falling off cliff. You gotta think out a fall 1:29:20.680 --> 1:29:22.720 off and something just fall. Let's take another shot, yer 1:29:23.400 --> 1:29:27.479 shot I'll take a shot to wine shots of wive. 1:29:27.760 --> 1:29:35.160 This is Loyalt Double Coming. I met them time before. Yeah. Stop, 1:29:38.240 --> 1:29:40.400 I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm gonna take it. Baby, I 1:29:40.479 --> 1:29:45.840 got a baby. You know. I'm out here feeling great, man, 1:29:46.640 --> 1:29:49.840 I'm feeling great. I'm really listen, man, you really really 1:29:49.920 --> 1:29:52.920 an icond out here, Like I really want to tell 1:29:52.920 --> 1:29:55.920 you how much I respect you, because, yeah, you know, 1:29:56.000 --> 1:29:57.880 me being the East Coast do a lot of people 1:29:57.960 --> 1:30:01.439 don't don't really know how much we blueprinted a lot 1:30:01.479 --> 1:30:04.120 of things after you because you know, it's always highlighted 1:30:04.200 --> 1:30:05.720 for the South because you did it for the South, 1:30:06.320 --> 1:30:08.479 but you did it for hip hop too. Yeah, so 1:30:08.720 --> 1:30:11.760 we we we we claim to you too. Yeah you 1:30:11.760 --> 1:30:13.400 know what I'm saying. So just in case people don't 1:30:13.479 --> 1:30:17.519 know that, like in New York, were the same thing. Like, yo, man, 1:30:17.920 --> 1:30:19.880 you know what you did was remarkable. I felt like 1:30:20.040 --> 1:30:22.639 you were the first Motown. I don't said it earlier 1:30:22.640 --> 1:30:28.840 a little bit, but did you decorate your household after Motown? No? 1:30:29.000 --> 1:30:31.880 I can't. I can't say I've done that. But but 1:30:32.040 --> 1:30:34.479 Biggest said it best when they say I'm not from Houston, 1:30:34.600 --> 1:30:38.439 but you know what I mean. I understood it even 1:30:38.800 --> 1:30:41.960 you know way back then that you know, you know 1:30:42.280 --> 1:30:45.280 things are being looked at and respected. But you know, 1:30:45.439 --> 1:30:48.439 I received that, you know what I mean, I received 1:30:48.479 --> 1:30:51.519 that coming from you because the feeling is mutual. I 1:30:51.720 --> 1:30:55.240 respect what you're doing. That's why I'm here thinking. But 1:30:58.520 --> 1:31:01.120 thank you taking. But let me just take bro. We 1:31:01.280 --> 1:31:04.800 have never seen hustle like that. We have never like 1:31:05.720 --> 1:31:08.040 And I swear to guard I swear when I first 1:31:08.120 --> 1:31:09.639 heard of rap a lot, and I said that earlier, 1:31:10.080 --> 1:31:12.479 I really thought it was a big fat white guy 1:31:12.840 --> 1:31:16.800 cowboy hat on. Like I swear, it was so professional. 1:31:17.120 --> 1:31:19.839 And I'm just talking and I'm realizing as I'm researching 1:31:19.920 --> 1:31:22.040 you that you was learning on the job. That's would be, 1:31:22.960 --> 1:31:25.000 that's that's what we have to learn on the job. 1:31:26.080 --> 1:31:27.840 But I was gonna tell you from the outside of 1:31:27.960 --> 1:31:30.080 looking at yeah, it didn't looked like he was learning 1:31:30.120 --> 1:31:32.680 on the jaw. Looked like he was professional. And look 1:31:32.720 --> 1:31:35.320 like this ship was calculated. It looked like everything was strategic. 1:31:35.520 --> 1:31:39.719 And I'm sure everything was calculated strategy, but I didn't 1:31:39.760 --> 1:31:43.040 know this was this this this young man for motherfucking 1:31:43.520 --> 1:31:46.400 you know, young black man. And that's the reason why 1:31:46.840 --> 1:31:50.479 we have to highlight your story everything you do, from 1:31:50.520 --> 1:31:53.880 your books to your movie to your documentary. I don't 1:31:53.880 --> 1:31:58.120 even know if a big a documentary were gonna documentary 1:31:58.160 --> 1:32:02.960 to everything we yeah, dream Chest, It's important every motherfucker 1:32:03.040 --> 1:32:06.120 thing you did, because it takes nothing for me to 1:32:06.160 --> 1:32:08.880 show you your love and you deserve it, like you 1:32:09.040 --> 1:32:11.280 one of them dudes that not only worked hard and 1:32:11.840 --> 1:32:14.640 you out here still living, y'all who still lift you 1:32:19.000 --> 1:32:21.000 this jame. This is what I hate in this game. 1:32:21.040 --> 1:32:22.960 This is the reason why I believe me and I 1:32:23.120 --> 1:32:26.720 f started this. I hate that they try to throw 1:32:26.920 --> 1:32:29.439 the older people out, the people that have ten years 1:32:29.479 --> 1:32:32.360 and better every other job. When you have ten years 1:32:32.400 --> 1:32:35.599 and better in the in the business, they call you season. 1:32:36.000 --> 1:32:38.000 They don't even have a word for washed up in 1:32:38.280 --> 1:32:40.800 in the white world. They don't have a word for 1:32:40.920 --> 1:32:44.519 washed up in fucking jazz world. But in hip hop 1:32:44.600 --> 1:32:49.439 they have a oh he's washed up. Why why do 1:32:49.560 --> 1:32:53.479 we even have these vernaculars in our language? We shouldn't 1:32:53.760 --> 1:32:56.639 I think that listen to and do whatever the funk 1:32:56.680 --> 1:32:59.240 you want for the rest of it your motherfucker world. Yeah, 1:32:59.439 --> 1:33:01.640 I'll tell you some funny ship. No, no, no, I'm 1:33:02.080 --> 1:33:05.040 going to say something. But yeah, I mean, hey, man, 1:33:05.320 --> 1:33:08.040 Foods come up with all kinds of ship, right, that 1:33:08.160 --> 1:33:11.280 ship gonna happen because you know, a lot of these dudes, 1:33:11.360 --> 1:33:13.680 like I say, don't know how to think right, so 1:33:13.800 --> 1:33:18.599 they come up with different ship to anything that's good. 1:33:19.320 --> 1:33:21.679 Motherfucker want to paint a picture of it being negative 1:33:21.760 --> 1:33:24.800 or whatever. So we can expect that, right, But you know, 1:33:25.560 --> 1:33:28.360 to answer what you're saying, you know the feeling once 1:33:28.400 --> 1:33:31.840 again and mute man. Game expect game all over the world, 1:33:31.880 --> 1:33:39.479 all over the world, and it's drink Championship. How do 1:33:39.680 --> 1:33:43.080 you know? How do you with social media? Because I'm 1:33:43.160 --> 1:33:46.800 not gonna lie. Social media it's a horrid place and 1:33:46.840 --> 1:33:51.040 it's a great place. It's very not social antisocial. It's 1:33:51.080 --> 1:33:55.160 like it's like I automatically know when I post yeah, 1:33:55.360 --> 1:33:57.559 and if I get a hundred comments, I know twelve 1:33:57.640 --> 1:34:01.920 on them. It's gonna be loose and listen, they're gonna 1:34:01.960 --> 1:34:04.880 say ship. I've never been told none of this ship 1:34:04.960 --> 1:34:08.639 I've ever been told to online person. No one's never 1:34:08.800 --> 1:34:10.960 said that to me. Like I'm I'm not acting like 1:34:11.040 --> 1:34:14.280 I'm like, you know, super and you're not super super dog. 1:34:14.360 --> 1:34:17.200 I'm not like that. But I'm saying to me, like 1:34:17.760 --> 1:34:20.040 if I post something, and it would be something innocent, 1:34:20.160 --> 1:34:22.120 like hey man, you just took a shot of kan 1:34:22.200 --> 1:34:27.679 yet you your car? Yeah? Like how do you? Because? 1:34:28.040 --> 1:34:33.639 And me, at first, I wouldn't answer these people back, 1:34:33.680 --> 1:34:35.760 and my people would give me like you know, you 1:34:35.840 --> 1:34:38.599 have six hundred thousand followers. The person you just told 1:34:38.640 --> 1:34:41.800 you has six And I'm like, soul, he's where at me? 1:34:41.920 --> 1:34:44.200 Like not only motherfucker, you just gave him sixties five 1:34:44.240 --> 1:34:46.960 thousand followers. I didn't know that. So how do you 1:34:47.160 --> 1:34:50.200 deal with that? I mean, you have the yeah, the 1:34:50.240 --> 1:34:54.639 renom humming yourself dation you got you and it's not reality. 1:34:54.720 --> 1:34:57.400 You gotta talking to you talking to ship that don't 1:34:57.439 --> 1:34:59.960 mean nothing, you know what, I ain't no telling wouldn't 1:35:00.200 --> 1:35:06.280 be So I've learned to try. I try not to 1:35:06.360 --> 1:35:09.800 pay that that ship much attention. Yeah, you know what 1:35:09.880 --> 1:35:12.919 I mean, because almost like I'm talking to a goddamn 1:35:13.000 --> 1:35:15.320 statue or something, you know what I mean, somebody that's 1:35:16.240 --> 1:35:20.800 yeah meaningless engles. So you know you can't allow that 1:35:20.840 --> 1:35:24.519 ship to throw you out of your from your movement, 1:35:25.439 --> 1:35:27.400 you know what I mean? I understand what it is, 1:35:27.640 --> 1:35:31.400 and uh I have a team that deal with a 1:35:31.479 --> 1:35:34.759 lot of it, so I can't, like, I can't receive 1:35:34.880 --> 1:35:37.560 that ship personally to the extent where I want to 1:35:37.600 --> 1:35:40.639 look that individual up and be like, I'm gonna suck 1:35:40.680 --> 1:35:46.080 you up because I see the comedy guy. He uh 1:35:46.479 --> 1:35:57.479 he pranked you. Yeah, this is good. Know what war 1:35:59.280 --> 1:36:03.679 he pranked you? Ye? If he close ways like I want, 1:36:03.720 --> 1:36:08.840 it makes you I'm good. Well, I was gonna him 1:36:13.240 --> 1:36:17.040 straight up and calling me in a bad time. He was, 1:36:17.360 --> 1:36:19.400 you know what I mean, he was on some different ships. 1:36:19.600 --> 1:36:25.880 What I'm saying, when I like a mother, he come back, 1:36:33.560 --> 1:36:37.040 I'll tell you. I'll tell you so. Um. Every time 1:36:37.120 --> 1:36:41.040 I always seen you, you always showed me love and 1:36:41.120 --> 1:36:44.360 you always offered me help. Yeah. You always say you're 1:36:44.400 --> 1:36:50.000 magestication anything and going right to me when I google 1:36:50.120 --> 1:36:54.120 you all our TV search. A lot of people I 1:36:54.160 --> 1:36:56.080 don't know that they put a bad to try to 1:36:56.120 --> 1:36:58.840 put it like a bad name to you. I judge 1:36:58.880 --> 1:37:03.240 you on what I seen. Yeah, and what I want 1:37:03.280 --> 1:37:07.439 to say is you you're really I'm just supposed to 1:37:07.439 --> 1:37:09.880 say a real gamester put gamester on it, but I 1:37:09.920 --> 1:37:12.040 don't rely want to use that because gamesters affiliate to 1:37:12.080 --> 1:37:14.840 a gang, and I don't want to do that to me. 1:37:15.040 --> 1:37:17.760 That's a real person, you know. I remember one time 1:37:17.880 --> 1:37:19.560 Juvenile was with you. I don't know if you remember this. 1:37:19.840 --> 1:37:21.960 I think you just signed you for now or whatever, 1:37:22.360 --> 1:37:24.560 and me and Julie was talking and you got on 1:37:24.640 --> 1:37:26.120 the phone. He was like, yo, man, nor just in 1:37:26.200 --> 1:37:29.439 case you need ain't that I'm here And I needed 1:37:29.520 --> 1:37:32.200 something at that time. Yeah, I didn't say I needed it, 1:37:32.560 --> 1:37:35.280 but I need it. And I was like, damn, why 1:37:35.320 --> 1:37:36.720 did I just say that. I didn't know how to 1:37:36.800 --> 1:37:39.680 get in contact with you. But the fact is you 1:37:39.760 --> 1:37:42.000 were there at a moment for me when I needed it. 1:37:42.400 --> 1:37:45.200 I didn't that because I just I didn't know what's 1:37:45.240 --> 1:37:47.760 going on at the time. But the fact is I 1:37:47.800 --> 1:37:51.519 appreciate that. You know what I'm saying, Why how do 1:37:51.640 --> 1:37:54.000 you develop that? How do you develop saying you know what, 1:37:54.880 --> 1:37:57.080 let me see this young man doing his thing, but 1:37:57.200 --> 1:37:59.080 let me add on to it, because that's what I 1:37:59.200 --> 1:38:03.800 took as saying to me. You know, different gifts like 1:38:03.960 --> 1:38:06.680 that I think come from up above, you know what 1:38:06.760 --> 1:38:11.400 I mean, Like like I always, uh, everything ain't about 1:38:11.439 --> 1:38:13.920 the money, you know what I mean? Even when you 1:38:14.080 --> 1:38:18.320 g K was concerned my relationship was developed with them 1:38:19.200 --> 1:38:22.040 personally before it was business, you know what I mean. 1:38:22.160 --> 1:38:24.479 And I said the same thing to them. You know, 1:38:25.120 --> 1:38:27.920 if y'all need me, you know, let me know. When 1:38:27.960 --> 1:38:32.000 I was laying my blueprint down with p and all 1:38:32.080 --> 1:38:34.880 those guys that was expired by me, you know, it 1:38:35.000 --> 1:38:38.680 was about just sharing the wisdom because I understand that 1:38:38.800 --> 1:38:42.360 wisdom is more important than all of this ship, right, 1:38:42.680 --> 1:38:44.439 So I wanted to share the love. Man. You know, 1:38:44.520 --> 1:38:47.880 I'm I'm that kind of individual where you know, you 1:38:48.000 --> 1:38:50.479 don't have to be no contract and more, you know 1:38:50.520 --> 1:38:51.960 what I mean, if I can share some of my 1:38:52.120 --> 1:38:55.120 wisdom with you, and that's what I've done, and that 1:38:55.560 --> 1:39:04.160 that science of respect. I ain't gonna lie, man, I 1:39:04.240 --> 1:39:06.160 haven't read a book like five years. I'm gonna read 1:39:06.200 --> 1:39:15.559 this stuff. I broke a box of understand Yeah, let 1:39:15.600 --> 1:39:19.479 me tall you something. Um, you really an expiration out here. 1:39:20.280 --> 1:39:22.519 And I want to claim me from the East coast 1:39:22.600 --> 1:39:26.200 because I know the South claiming so much and you 1:39:26.280 --> 1:39:28.599 don't got nick motherfulers I would say, Nicks. I don't 1:39:28.600 --> 1:39:31.160 want to say Nicks no more. They're not just saying 1:39:31.280 --> 1:39:35.800 just all right, but you know I want to claim 1:39:35.840 --> 1:39:37.640 you too, man. I want to say how much you 1:39:38.439 --> 1:39:44.120 inspired me because even drink Chance, Drenk Chance, we did 1:39:44.240 --> 1:39:47.320 this with a wrap a lot mentality and had you 1:39:47.600 --> 1:39:50.000 not laid out the blueprint like we were independent of 1:39:50.080 --> 1:39:52.599 six eight months we had nothing. We just was going 1:39:52.640 --> 1:39:56.559 out there spending our own money. It's self funding, catching flights. 1:39:57.000 --> 1:39:58.600 And that's when we looked at each other. Man, we 1:39:59.040 --> 1:40:02.400 do like rap a Lot said there's something to really 1:40:02.439 --> 1:40:05.479 shit out and heard coming from the east. You know what. 1:40:05.960 --> 1:40:12.160 You know, he's the south. Let's finished when you said that, 1:40:13.040 --> 1:40:17.439 But everys a lot of the side he was watching 1:40:17.520 --> 1:40:20.680 him was inspired. Yes, man enough, I want you to 1:40:20.760 --> 1:40:23.280 say that to your face as a man like in 1:40:23.360 --> 1:40:26.920 in case any of them motherfucker's didn't tell you, I'm 1:40:27.000 --> 1:40:29.160 telling you I'll be at the East Coast meetings. Yeah, 1:40:30.479 --> 1:40:37.000 they said, you know, I didn't know something though. I 1:40:37.160 --> 1:40:40.439 was inspired by them for that's all. That's all that's know. 1:40:40.640 --> 1:40:43.840 I know what jealous up that's rusting. All them guys 1:40:43.920 --> 1:40:46.840 inspired me. You know that's another thing I see about you. 1:40:47.760 --> 1:40:50.200 It's not only I don't see jealousy, but I see 1:40:50.200 --> 1:40:54.880 you bigging up somebody else. I always see you say okay, well, 1:40:54.960 --> 1:40:57.200 that guy's knowing that I enjoy it, and they say, yo, 1:40:57.640 --> 1:40:59.799 he picked up, he picked you up, and you always 1:41:00.040 --> 1:41:03.360 mean that. I mean, that's who I am as a person, 1:41:03.720 --> 1:41:05.880 but I don't expect anybody else to be like that. 1:41:06.200 --> 1:41:09.120 So when I'm seeing you, I'm like, well, how did 1:41:09.200 --> 1:41:10.880 you like? I don't know how I develop it? How 1:41:10.920 --> 1:41:12.959 did you get me? And I don't have that disease. 1:41:13.000 --> 1:41:16.639 I don't have that situation where you know what I mean. 1:41:19.000 --> 1:41:21.519 You know, I can't big up a man exactly, you 1:41:21.560 --> 1:41:24.479 know what I mean of a man inspired me. I'm 1:41:24.520 --> 1:41:27.000 proud of that. I ain't got no none of that 1:41:27.200 --> 1:41:30.160 malice and ship in my heart that causes me to 1:41:30.320 --> 1:41:32.880 not be able to say it with my lips, you 1:41:32.960 --> 1:41:35.040 know what I mean. And I got that from them, 1:41:35.840 --> 1:41:37.320 you know what I mean. So I'm proud of that. 1:41:37.479 --> 1:41:40.400 That's what inspired me to be where I'm at today. 1:41:40.400 --> 1:41:43.679 I'm I'm thankful for this ship and even the ones 1:41:43.800 --> 1:41:47.560 that I inspired inspired me by what they've done. What 1:41:47.720 --> 1:41:52.280 you said, masterpiece, you know what I mean. I see 1:41:52.360 --> 1:41:55.400 what they've done, like damn, you know what I mean. 1:41:55.439 --> 1:41:57.559 I ain't mad at y'a. I'm inspired by that ship. 1:41:57.640 --> 1:42:00.640 I'm I'm gonna hustle a little harder, but yeah, I 1:42:00.720 --> 1:42:07.160 gotta make some noise for that guy I listened to me. 1:42:07.800 --> 1:42:10.360 I'm prepared for this for a week. Man, I went, 1:42:10.520 --> 1:42:14.360 I just I called everybody, called everybody one be slim 1:42:14.520 --> 1:42:17.360 dog a little flint and I just wanted to know 1:42:17.680 --> 1:42:20.320 everything cause I see anything on the internet. But because 1:42:20.360 --> 1:42:22.880 I wanted to show you that respect, like really talk 1:42:22.960 --> 1:42:28.760 because I'm sorry to say this, they will never be 1:42:28.880 --> 1:42:33.080 another j Crens and that's a compliment. I appreciate it, 1:42:33.200 --> 1:42:36.360 but it's like also like damn, it's also sad because 1:42:37.280 --> 1:42:40.479 like that, I don't think you could ever recreate what 1:42:40.640 --> 1:42:44.000 you did. Like God bless everyone else's error, you know, 1:42:44.080 --> 1:42:47.200 from death Row. But rapper Lot was rapping Loop. That 1:42:47.280 --> 1:42:50.519 was the most different ship we ever soul and it 1:42:50.600 --> 1:42:53.280 made hip hop a better place in a sense if 1:42:53.320 --> 1:42:57.120 that was elevated it. Yeah, yeah, not gonna beaut of 1:42:57.200 --> 1:43:00.000 a journey man, just a case. Make sure that's something 1:43:00.000 --> 1:43:02.680 our call. I'm sorry we had yet now I've been 1:43:02.840 --> 1:43:05.880 it's been a beau for journey and uh, you know, 1:43:06.120 --> 1:43:11.600 I'm always inspired by those who appreciate, you know, what 1:43:11.720 --> 1:43:14.519 I contributed, and likewise, you know what I mean. The 1:43:14.600 --> 1:43:16.920 feeling is the musical because the ship goes on and on, 1:43:17.800 --> 1:43:20.120 so ain't no end to it. I'm sorry taking another 1:43:20.160 --> 1:43:25.800 shot of Loyd Lord me loyal. You gotta do it 1:43:26.840 --> 1:43:29.200 a lot. I had a lot of Our relationship is 1:43:29.280 --> 1:43:35.360 very loyal, Jesus us a shot of it. Were doing 1:43:35.439 --> 1:43:37.679 shots to loyalty. If you ain't got that, you ain't 1:43:37.680 --> 1:43:41.880 got ship. Got that, Julia, We're gonna is it raining 1:43:41.920 --> 1:43:46.760 outside and we are back in full of fact and 1:43:46.960 --> 1:43:51.360 right now we got a journalists extraordin there. We've been 1:43:51.400 --> 1:43:54.479 on Mike Challenges and all I have seen now she's 1:43:54.479 --> 1:43:56.960 how you're biking Listen. I didn't know I was gonna 1:43:56.960 --> 1:44:02.360 be on camera. It's okay when really truly, but I'm 1:44:02.439 --> 1:44:06.120 hearing masterpiece. So you know what that was about when 1:44:06.160 --> 1:44:10.519 he was on it all goes back to the Pimpcy book. Okay, 1:44:11.920 --> 1:44:14.360 when I did the PIMC book, I talked with his mom. 1:44:14.680 --> 1:44:17.840 I talked to a dozen people who said, yes, they 1:44:17.880 --> 1:44:20.519 had this altercation. Right, So, as a journalist, you know, 1:44:20.640 --> 1:44:22.760 your integrity is important. So I'm not gonna put something 1:44:22.800 --> 1:44:26.479 in print if it's not confirmed by people. And so 1:44:26.600 --> 1:44:29.000 when I said, are you trying to interview MASTERP about 1:44:29.439 --> 1:44:31.680 what happened, and he wouldn't speak on it. So if 1:44:31.680 --> 1:44:35.800 I wastet, what's that? Which is integrity? Because you know 1:44:35.920 --> 1:44:38.160 the man has passed away. So I mean, I respected 1:44:38.240 --> 1:44:39.400 you don't want to speak on it. But if you 1:44:39.439 --> 1:44:41.120 don't want to speak on it, and twelve other people 1:44:41.200 --> 1:44:43.439 tell me this did happened, and I'm going to write 1:44:43.479 --> 1:44:45.240 that it happened or you know, this is what they said. 1:44:45.400 --> 1:44:47.639 So but when he spoke on it on the breakfast club, 1:44:48.439 --> 1:44:51.879 referred to me as some white girl. Now, so imagine 1:44:51.920 --> 1:44:55.920 if I said some black guys, it would be disrespectful. 1:44:56.000 --> 1:44:57.479 So that was my only thing to him, I said, 1:44:57.600 --> 1:45:00.400 because he came to an event that Jay did and 1:45:00.400 --> 1:45:01.680 I don't want to put him in the middle of 1:45:01.720 --> 1:45:05.280 any nonsense or whatever. But Master he made a comment 1:45:05.360 --> 1:45:08.240 that was I definitely felt was directed at me. He 1:45:08.280 --> 1:45:10.600 knows who I am, you know, And I made the 1:45:10.680 --> 1:45:13.679 comment basically, if you're gonna speak on me, just say 1:45:13.760 --> 1:45:15.400 my name. If you have a problem. I think that's fine, 1:45:15.479 --> 1:45:18.519 but you're not gonna, you know, dis respect disrespectfully, just 1:45:18.600 --> 1:45:22.240 blow me off. Did some white didn't know? I'm Julia Beverley, 1:45:22.240 --> 1:45:28.439 you could say my name, because I didn't understand one time, 1:45:28.600 --> 1:45:31.519 it's the real, and I said all the two white guys, 1:45:31.840 --> 1:45:34.200 And I didn't mean it like that. I meant it like, 1:45:34.400 --> 1:45:36.479 you know, the two white that that everyone knows it's 1:45:36.520 --> 1:45:38.800 the real. And when I seen Chilling put us that 1:45:38.920 --> 1:45:42.799 day today, I was taking that. It was the context 1:45:42.840 --> 1:45:44.720 in which he said it. It was meant to be 1:45:44.800 --> 1:45:48.320 just maybe all the time, the white girl to be 1:45:48.360 --> 1:45:50.519 in the club, but I didn't need to be it's 1:45:50.560 --> 1:45:52.360 the real. I just saying that the two white guys 1:45:52.400 --> 1:45:54.800 because that's how I described the show. I apologize, I 1:45:54.880 --> 1:45:57.960 know that sometimes that's kind of inappropriate. But they got 1:45:58.000 --> 1:45:59.519 mad at it was like, you know what, the two 1:45:59.520 --> 1:46:01.040 white guys, and I was like, damn, I don't know. 1:46:01.400 --> 1:46:04.200 I meant it's surreal. So I understood that's only a 1:46:04.280 --> 1:46:11.120 white girl though it's so here was the truth about 1:46:11.160 --> 1:46:15.160 the matter, right, Okay, okay, first, first dream camp, let's 1:46:15.160 --> 1:46:21.360 make some loys balls. Don't take another shot, take another 1:46:21.400 --> 1:46:28.680 shot of loyal to tell you that. Go ahead, you 1:46:28.840 --> 1:46:34.479 all right, master people, my homie, right, Julie, My home 1:46:34.680 --> 1:46:37.559 is well. So I don't want this ship like being 1:46:37.600 --> 1:46:42.639 twisted up by putting me into something. I'm like, they're 1:46:42.680 --> 1:46:45.760 wrong as they come, right. But the fact of the 1:46:45.880 --> 1:46:50.120 matter is y'all work that ship out on the spot, right. Yeah, 1:46:50.880 --> 1:46:53.960 I love it. I love good people, massive pe good 1:46:54.040 --> 1:46:57.400 people and keep you know, you know what. I love it. 1:46:57.920 --> 1:47:01.840 I love this because that's very intimothy, like a person 1:47:02.000 --> 1:47:04.200 like like and he was like doing and he said, 1:47:04.720 --> 1:47:06.679 and he said, but you don't know how he said 1:47:06.680 --> 1:47:10.559 to and he he evaluated. You know, he knew because 1:47:10.600 --> 1:47:13.240 I had sent up for them to come and they said, 1:47:13.479 --> 1:47:15.600 he said to them, they said your names. It was 1:47:15.680 --> 1:47:17.640 just like, I just liked it. Did you did you 1:47:17.800 --> 1:47:22.040 kind of like stood your ground because you know the 1:47:22.200 --> 1:47:24.200 good people like you out there, you know what I'm saying, 1:47:24.200 --> 1:47:27.439 that's part of our culture. That's in our culture. She's 1:47:27.439 --> 1:47:31.160 a pioneer and pioneer, you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, 1:47:31.320 --> 1:47:33.479 so I can feel like it for us in Florida, 1:47:33.560 --> 1:47:35.760 like what you did for us with the platform that 1:47:35.880 --> 1:47:38.479 you created that helps so many cats in Florida and 1:47:38.560 --> 1:47:41.559 the South in general. That I saw the interview y'all 1:47:41.600 --> 1:47:45.280 did with Tipple. He gave me a nice little magazing 1:47:45.400 --> 1:47:52.400 guys so old and Florida on Orlando I started in 1:47:53.560 --> 1:47:57.920 so how hap old on I'm a it was Yeah. 1:47:57.960 --> 1:48:00.280 I mean people used to call the radio, we call 1:48:00.320 --> 1:48:02.479 it oh Town, and we're like, oh, that's corny or whatever. 1:48:02.560 --> 1:48:05.599 So ozone was Orlando. So I just I always looked 1:48:05.600 --> 1:48:08.360 at myself as kind of I was kind of in 1:48:08.479 --> 1:48:10.720 the same hustle as the artist. So like somebody like 1:48:10.800 --> 1:48:12.760 people when I would hear him, you know, freestyle and 1:48:12.800 --> 1:48:14.519 on the radio, or I just see him out hustling, 1:48:14.680 --> 1:48:17.080 like I was moving the same way they were. I 1:48:17.160 --> 1:48:19.200 wasn't a journalist who was just in the office from 1:48:19.240 --> 1:48:21.280 eight to five collecting check Like I was just out 1:48:21.320 --> 1:48:23.200 there trying to just trying to make it the same 1:48:23.240 --> 1:48:25.040 way that they were. So you know, I think a 1:48:25.080 --> 1:48:27.560 lot of artists respected that in that sense. And I 1:48:27.640 --> 1:48:30.439 had just excellent timing because at that time you had 1:48:31.000 --> 1:48:35.400 you know, Rick Ross everywhere everywhere. Yeah, I was all 1:48:35.439 --> 1:48:37.400 over the place. You know. I think I did have 1:48:37.560 --> 1:48:40.080 a had a little point to prove, because you know, 1:48:40.120 --> 1:48:41.720 people would look at me in the beginning like when 1:48:41.800 --> 1:48:43.720 is this white girl gonna you know, But I like 1:48:43.840 --> 1:48:46.080 that when people kind of underestimate to you, that's that's 1:48:46.120 --> 1:48:59.280 extra motivation. Dam good. Did you have anything to do 1:48:59.360 --> 1:49:03.040 with the Respect book? Yeah? So, Um, I think I 1:49:03.120 --> 1:49:05.280 had heard Jay speak on it in an interview saying 1:49:05.320 --> 1:49:07.080 that he was going to write a book eventually, and 1:49:07.280 --> 1:49:09.240 I think I kind of just planted to see at 1:49:09.280 --> 1:49:10.559 that point just let him know, Hey, if you need 1:49:10.600 --> 1:49:12.519 any help, you know, let me know. So it was maybe, 1:49:13.200 --> 1:49:14.920 I don't know, two or three years later. You know, 1:49:15.200 --> 1:49:17.479 is that what you transition with from Ozone to say, 1:49:17.520 --> 1:49:19.560 you know what I mean? I mean the books is 1:49:19.640 --> 1:49:21.760 really as people read, you know what, Like I'm all 1:49:21.800 --> 1:49:26.559 over the place, like I have so many different things books. 1:49:26.680 --> 1:49:32.720 I'm not a reader. That's what just now, I'm just 1:49:32.800 --> 1:49:35.200 being honest. Like when the first time when we when 1:49:35.240 --> 1:49:39.080 we recorded the book, he had he had a He's 1:49:39.120 --> 1:49:41.040 recording for like hours of the time. He had a 1:49:41.200 --> 1:49:43.400 bowl of popcorn sitting there and I'm just looking at 1:49:43.439 --> 1:49:46.519 the popcorn, like I know, I can't even like hours 1:49:46.920 --> 1:49:59.800 just in police when we did the first person pre 1:50:00.040 --> 1:50:05.000 This is amazing, Chris, I actually transitioned from when I 1:50:05.080 --> 1:50:07.960 stopped doing the magazine. It really was. The recession was 1:50:08.080 --> 1:50:10.800 really ultimately, you know, labels didn't really happen to I 1:50:10.920 --> 1:50:12.840 just like that. It changed a lot. Yeah, but I did. 1:50:12.960 --> 1:50:15.240 I also felt like it kind of run its course, 1:50:15.320 --> 1:50:17.120 like it kind of accomplished what we set out to do, 1:50:17.200 --> 1:50:22.120 which was give people a voice, have beef with the Source. Uh, 1:50:23.240 --> 1:50:26.280 I mean there was a Benzino. I wouldn't say. I 1:50:26.280 --> 1:50:28.920 wouldn't say we had yeah, be I'm good with Dave. 1:50:30.000 --> 1:50:38.400 You don't know how the Benzino. Let me try to 1:50:38.439 --> 1:50:40.360 give an I'll try to give a short version because 1:50:48.400 --> 1:50:50.679 this is going years back. I mean I was probably 1:50:51.560 --> 1:50:53.280 had to be what twenty one or something like that. 1:50:53.400 --> 1:50:55.360 This was a long time ago, so you know when 1:50:55.400 --> 1:50:57.320 I when I started doing Ozon when it was a 1:50:57.439 --> 1:51:00.719 photo magazine. So initially my thinking was like, oh, somebody's 1:51:00.720 --> 1:51:02.240 going to see this from the Source or Double X 1:51:03.160 --> 1:51:06.479 people playing South, So why you part of my Spanish 1:51:06.520 --> 1:51:08.479 people get to you. No, No, it's good. We need 1:51:08.520 --> 1:51:20.800 the background starting to dance. I'm sorry. So I wanted 1:51:20.840 --> 1:51:23.320 to be a photographer for the Source or Vibe. Nobody 1:51:23.320 --> 1:51:25.599 would ever call me back, like I'm this young white 1:51:25.640 --> 1:51:27.920 girl in Orlando. I'm like, how do I get to 1:51:28.080 --> 1:51:30.000 that point? So I started shooting some stuff for them. 1:51:30.000 --> 1:51:32.439 I think I met h Boo and Gotti who were 1:51:32.520 --> 1:51:38.280 the source, like news editors, artists, No Gotti they were, 1:51:38.920 --> 1:51:43.800 They weren't at there's another I'm gonna I'm gonna stop 1:51:43.840 --> 1:51:51.360 you all right now, this is the same movie world. Yeah, 1:51:52.560 --> 1:52:02.479 take a cold, keep working to keep started. Yeah, so 1:52:02.600 --> 1:52:04.800 you're gonna make me forget the whole story. So I 1:52:04.880 --> 1:52:07.759 started shooting. I shot some stuff for the source. They started, 1:52:07.920 --> 1:52:09.919 you know, using some of my stuff in the photo galleries, 1:52:10.160 --> 1:52:12.280 and they'd come me a couple of checks. I was 1:52:12.280 --> 1:52:14.400 getting a few dollars here and there, and it got 1:52:14.479 --> 1:52:16.320 to a point I think they owed me. I don't know, 1:52:16.360 --> 1:52:18.600 it's like sixteen bucks or something like that, you know, 1:52:18.880 --> 1:52:22.000 and like it's been like a year and nobody's responding 1:52:22.040 --> 1:52:24.400 about my invoices, you know, and it's not even the well, 1:52:24.439 --> 1:52:26.040 at that point, it probably was the money, but like 1:52:26.120 --> 1:52:28.200 when something like that happens now, it's not even the money, 1:52:28.640 --> 1:52:30.400 it's like the disrespect of it, Like you're not even 1:52:30.439 --> 1:52:33.600 gonna respond back, like you know, like you're playing with me. 1:52:33.760 --> 1:52:36.559 So um. I think I had been trying to get 1:52:36.560 --> 1:52:39.080 answers on this invoice. I saw they going into some 1:52:39.280 --> 1:52:41.360 we were here in Miami, going into some club in 1:52:41.400 --> 1:52:43.840 South Beach, and I remember it being a little it 1:52:43.920 --> 1:52:45.720 was a little funny because like they knew me back then, 1:52:45.800 --> 1:52:48.160 like the you know, all the bouncers they let me 1:52:48.240 --> 1:52:51.439 in before Dave, and I remember that being like, well, 1:52:51.560 --> 1:52:53.280 kind of started to get a little pool. But I 1:52:53.320 --> 1:52:54.880 asked him about I said, hey, I've been trying to 1:52:54.920 --> 1:52:56.640 get in touch with somebody about my invoice, and he 1:52:56.760 --> 1:52:59.320 was he was smoking, and he kind of like just 1:52:59.400 --> 1:53:01.479 looked at me and exhale like kind of in my 1:53:01.600 --> 1:53:04.320 face a little bit and just walked in like didn't 1:53:04.400 --> 1:53:08.120 And I'm like, damn, yeah, I doubt he even remembers this, 1:53:08.240 --> 1:53:10.280 but like to me, and maybe it didn't. Maybe it 1:53:10.320 --> 1:53:16.680 wasn't intended that it was like to me, it was 1:53:16.720 --> 1:53:18.680 like disrespectful, you know what I mean. And so I 1:53:18.760 --> 1:53:20.639 have been hearing all there was all the rumors about 1:53:20.640 --> 1:53:23.360 how Benzino was extorting him and all this stuff. So 1:53:23.479 --> 1:53:25.320 we did this year end issue that was supposed to 1:53:25.360 --> 1:53:27.280 be funny. We gave out all these awards like you know, 1:53:27.400 --> 1:53:30.040 best whatever, but it was like all really sarcastic. And 1:53:30.120 --> 1:53:33.639 then I said, I don't even remember details, but best 1:53:33.720 --> 1:53:37.560 Extortionists or something like that goes to ben Zino. It 1:53:37.640 --> 1:53:39.880 was a little it was a pretty and I said 1:53:39.880 --> 1:53:42.040 in the article, like, you know, full disclosure. I'm saying 1:53:42.040 --> 1:53:44.160 all this because they owe me money, they got you 1:53:44.240 --> 1:53:47.240 know whatever. So this I wrote this thing. And the 1:53:47.280 --> 1:53:48.920 funny thing is like when you would write something in 1:53:48.960 --> 1:53:51.000 the magazine, by the time it actually prints and hits 1:53:51.040 --> 1:53:54.080 the streets, it's like two months later, you know what 1:53:54.120 --> 1:53:59.960 I mean. So, so we had an office out here 1:54:00.200 --> 1:54:04.320 in Miami by the Venetian would teach and I think 1:54:04.360 --> 1:54:07.320 I'd put some magazines out or whatever. Whenever it reached Miami, 1:54:08.080 --> 1:54:11.400 I get a call from Dave that like it was 1:54:11.439 --> 1:54:13.320 like eleven o'clock at night or whatever, a random number 1:54:13.360 --> 1:54:17.240 pops up and Dave was like cussing me out, hangs 1:54:17.320 --> 1:54:22.280 up after like ninep cuts people out differently or it's like, 1:54:22.600 --> 1:54:24.080 because you know, we we use a lot of you 1:54:25.720 --> 1:54:31.439 like if you feel like that, I'm very curious stuff 1:54:31.479 --> 1:54:33.560 back then, because I really don't a lot of this 1:54:33.600 --> 1:54:37.840 stuff is It's been so long, I don't know I 1:54:37.960 --> 1:54:45.360 remember who'll see Dave. But then Benzino talking Mazino cussing 1:54:45.400 --> 1:54:47.400 me out for an hour and a half. I'm talking 1:54:47.440 --> 1:54:53.800 about looking right and I'm very well, I'm gonna throw 1:54:53.840 --> 1:54:57.320 them in your face. He couldn't that. Okay. I was 1:54:57.440 --> 1:54:59.720 like a hundred pounds. I'm like, what I'm talking about? 1:55:00.040 --> 1:55:03.080 Call your select this is what happened. Okay. He cussed 1:55:03.120 --> 1:55:09.000 me out for an hour. There's audio, you know, you 1:55:09.040 --> 1:55:11.120 know what's so crazy? But he called me and he 1:55:11.200 --> 1:55:13.160 cussed me out for like a good ninety minutes. Like 1:55:13.240 --> 1:55:15.520 it was on specer phone a room back then. He 1:55:15.640 --> 1:55:18.320 was going, shoot, you had to rulemate, remember I was. 1:55:19.640 --> 1:55:22.040 It was just like a kid, you know what I mean. 1:55:22.280 --> 1:55:25.760 But my roommate he's like, who who is this? You know? 1:55:26.000 --> 1:55:28.840 So after we hung up, I was telling somebody about it. 1:55:28.880 --> 1:55:30.560 I think a DJ. It might have been a DJ. 1:55:30.720 --> 1:55:35.400 Quests in Fort Lauderdale or for Fort Myers was the 1:55:35.480 --> 1:55:38.160 quest I can't even remember. DJ was like. I was 1:55:38.200 --> 1:55:41.480 telling him about it instantly, remember a well in semester. 1:55:41.600 --> 1:55:43.240 I was like, you won't believe what just happened. You know. 1:55:43.400 --> 1:55:45.280 Benzino just cust me. He said, man, I wish you 1:55:45.360 --> 1:55:46.960 had the audio. I would put it on my mixtape. 1:55:47.600 --> 1:55:49.400 So I go to the office like two days later, 1:55:49.520 --> 1:55:51.880 and he had called the office voicemail before he got 1:55:51.960 --> 1:56:00.360 my cell phone number and the message called you yes, no, 1:56:00.520 --> 1:56:02.560 but you know what's crazy? I was in I went 1:56:02.640 --> 1:56:11.440 to SO I said it to Tony Neil DJs. Tony 1:56:11.480 --> 1:56:14.360 said it to all the DJs like funk Master Flex 1:56:14.440 --> 1:56:16.520 playd I think was. I think it was funk Master 1:56:16.600 --> 1:56:21.800 flex like record it was. It's still on the internet somewhere. 1:56:22.200 --> 1:56:24.320 But I went to uh, I think it was Sweden 1:56:24.640 --> 1:56:27.560 or Denmark with Trey songs and we went up to 1:56:27.680 --> 1:56:29.440 DJ was a gay. The DJ like a copy of 1:56:29.480 --> 1:56:33.040 the magazine and he goes, she goes slood monkeys. So 1:56:39.240 --> 1:56:41.120 this day, like if I hear the audio, I just 1:56:41.160 --> 1:56:48.040 started dying back full of viral. Let's take today. But 1:56:48.200 --> 1:56:52.880 one of the best encounters what your masterp was because 1:56:52.920 --> 1:56:55.080 you have the ultimate pass right. It's not like you're 1:56:55.080 --> 1:56:57.160 in a hip hop right now. You're in hip hop. 1:56:57.560 --> 1:57:00.680 What you with one of the most respect did what's 1:57:00.680 --> 1:57:02.520 the book at me? Hold that in my hand while 1:57:02.520 --> 1:57:09.920 I say that one of the most respected men in 1:57:09.920 --> 1:57:12.520 the hip hop. Is it easier for you now navigating 1:57:13.080 --> 1:57:18.160 as as a person that's the homie or what is 1:57:18.280 --> 1:57:21.280 the saying easier navigating as far as the having to 1:57:22.200 --> 1:57:25.640 seemed j Prince coach. Yes, um, yeah, I mean it 1:57:25.680 --> 1:57:33.920 definitely makes a difference. Yeah, I looked at it. I 1:57:34.000 --> 1:57:40.880 would I could. I can see I can see his anger, like, 1:57:41.600 --> 1:57:43.960 you know, because I think he didn't want to be checked, 1:57:44.000 --> 1:57:45.800 like he's at a level where you don't you don't 1:57:45.840 --> 1:57:49.600 get checked, like it's a certain O G status and 1:57:49.680 --> 1:57:52.080 then once you hit that status, I haven't reached it yet. Well, 1:57:52.120 --> 1:57:55.560 I felt like when he said, like attacked my journalistic integrity, 1:57:55.640 --> 1:57:57.720 like I don't just put information at like I don't 1:57:57.760 --> 1:58:00.840 just take just put it about it. I'm not gonna 1:58:00.880 --> 1:58:03.600 say something if it's not factual or haven't done the 1:58:03.640 --> 1:58:06.280 research though. No, but I understand where he's coming from 1:58:06.320 --> 1:58:09.920 because if you were talking about Pimcy correctly, PIMC, as 1:58:10.000 --> 1:58:12.600 we all know, has been passed away. It is just 1:58:15.200 --> 1:58:17.320 I respect that he didn't want to speak infamous story 1:58:17.720 --> 1:58:21.800 of altercation with between Master Pete and Pimps. I asked 1:58:21.880 --> 1:58:25.560 him on our show as well. He avoided the question 1:58:25.600 --> 1:58:31.640 as well, which to me, in the arrow of cloud question, 1:58:32.160 --> 1:58:34.720 huh you say, pa Vard in the question he he 1:58:35.320 --> 1:58:36.720 didn't want to because you know a lot, to me, 1:58:36.800 --> 1:58:40.200 that's honorable because had the man been a love speak 1:58:40.280 --> 1:58:43.160 on someone that's past and Pimpsy was the type of 1:58:43.200 --> 1:58:47.760 person to be alive and talking ship. So, so don't 1:58:47.800 --> 1:58:50.680 really happened? Are you gonna tell us what really happened? 1:58:50.680 --> 1:58:52.840 I know, you know the whole story. Look at Junior, 1:58:53.160 --> 1:59:05.920 Lets look at a little more warrior the glory baby ahead. 1:59:06.240 --> 1:59:07.760 We might get to the bottom of the Do you 1:59:07.800 --> 1:59:10.920 want to know what really happened? You know I've heard 1:59:11.200 --> 1:59:16.840 I've heard a lot of different things without well because 1:59:16.880 --> 1:59:19.240 back if he was your boy and Pimp was your boy, yeah, 1:59:19.520 --> 1:59:25.640 two loved ones. Right, it's the situation that you kind 1:59:25.680 --> 1:59:29.240 of hate to choose a side. I tell him all 1:59:29.320 --> 1:59:31.360 the time, don't make me choose a side. I don't 1:59:31.400 --> 1:59:37.640 want to go left or right right, And uh, Pe, 1:59:38.720 --> 1:59:43.320 the Scotland gentleman that he is, uh didn't put me 1:59:43.400 --> 1:59:48.840 in that position. And we worked it out. We have 1:59:49.400 --> 1:59:56.480 That's that's the story. Maybe the viewers you know what 1:59:56.560 --> 1:59:59.840 I mean. I mean, you know, Pete, I love Pe 2:00:00.080 --> 2:00:05.200 Yellow c and uh you know, ship terming us happened 2:00:05.360 --> 2:00:10.520 and I was able to smooth and ship out and 2:00:10.600 --> 2:00:13.000 they actually worked it out. Yeah, you know what I mean. 2:00:13.240 --> 2:00:18.520 That's the beauty of any controvert thing and ship like 2:00:18.680 --> 2:00:23.680 that being able to the end and being a beautiful story. 2:00:23.960 --> 2:00:26.720 That's what happened, you know what I mean. And all 2:00:26.800 --> 2:00:31.040 that ship that in between that wasn't really important. You know, 2:00:31.160 --> 2:00:34.800 at the end of the day, they respect the protocol 2:00:35.040 --> 2:00:39.200 and ship when Pete. When C died, he didn't have 2:00:39.360 --> 2:00:42.360 no issue with Pete. P didn't have no issue with C. 2:00:43.280 --> 2:00:46.320 So for any of us to take a position where 2:00:46.400 --> 2:00:50.640 it was problem us, it's not Rother and me being 2:00:50.680 --> 2:00:53.360 the journalists. I understand where you're coming from. Now me 2:00:53.440 --> 2:00:55.840 be immediate. Now, I understand what you're coming from, because 2:00:56.840 --> 2:00:59.200 because as you have to bring up tough situations because 2:00:59.640 --> 2:01:01.440 it's it's for the viewers. If you would be like 2:01:01.520 --> 2:01:03.640 why you didn't ask that? Like you know what I'm saying, 2:01:03.680 --> 2:01:06.440 Like when I interviewed NAS, I didn't ask about jay Z, 2:01:07.160 --> 2:01:10.320 and everyone chastised me for that. It's like, I'm like, 2:01:10.520 --> 2:01:13.400 I feel like the jay Z question has been answered already. 2:01:13.680 --> 2:01:15.720 You know what I'm saying. So I understand. I understand 2:01:15.800 --> 2:01:18.400 both both sides. So here's the other piece that go along. 2:01:18.560 --> 2:01:20.600 That's because to take the other piece got dead. I 2:01:20.680 --> 2:01:25.480 heard a call from P right from c he decided 2:01:25.600 --> 2:01:29.520 to embrace us. I mean the ramp a lot, you 2:01:29.560 --> 2:01:35.320 know what I mean? No, no, yeah, and uh, one 2:01:35.360 --> 2:01:39.000 step to the it's after a different ship, you know 2:01:39.000 --> 2:01:42.840 what I mean. The turbinunce took place. You know, he 2:01:43.040 --> 2:01:45.440 let me know. I had a meeting with him, right, 2:01:45.960 --> 2:01:50.040 you know, he let me know that, Okay, we're together. 2:01:51.040 --> 2:01:53.760 So that before we're together. But you know what I mean, 2:01:53.840 --> 2:01:56.920 and I have to move accordingly to us being together. 2:01:57.320 --> 2:02:00.280 When I explained that to the home and okay, we're together, 2:02:02.000 --> 2:02:07.800 you know what I mean. So after that, So that's 2:02:07.840 --> 2:02:10.040 why I respect master people not talk about it because 2:02:10.040 --> 2:02:12.720 when you live in an era cloud post good nigga, 2:02:13.280 --> 2:02:15.760 like you can talk about it's gonna be whatever. But 2:02:18.360 --> 2:02:22.520 week about is revered as like one of these and 2:02:22.600 --> 2:02:25.440 this is probably white. Maybe maybe maybe one of his 2:02:25.640 --> 2:02:28.920 one loss, like you know, he slipped up. Maybe it's 2:02:29.000 --> 2:02:32.680 one loss, a loss. Oh maybe it's I don't know, 2:02:32.880 --> 2:02:34.920 I don't know, I don't want I wouldn't, I wouldn't 2:02:34.960 --> 2:02:38.480 call it a loss. It's just he dealed. He played 2:02:38.520 --> 2:02:41.160 the hand. He was dead, right, you know what I mean, 2:02:41.320 --> 2:02:45.480 because you know, some ship was being said that he 2:02:45.600 --> 2:02:49.080 had to deal with sometimes it happened right, You don't 2:02:49.120 --> 2:02:52.120 have to like deal with ship and then you have 2:02:52.360 --> 2:02:55.920 to undeal with the ship you was dealing with when 2:02:55.960 --> 2:03:02.400 the hand is different. So I mean, y'all get it. Yeah, 2:03:02.480 --> 2:03:12.960 I get it, we get it. It's a noise. So 2:03:15.640 --> 2:03:20.760 but everything game, you've been a boxing game. You're in 2:03:20.960 --> 2:03:27.520 up fucking what's thes this goal? Author? An author? See 2:03:27.680 --> 2:03:43.080 oh what the I lander owner under place? Prince? What 2:03:43.320 --> 2:03:46.000 the next? Can you do? What can you do that? 2:03:46.360 --> 2:03:48.160 This is what you saw it? You said that something 2:03:48.320 --> 2:03:50.760 and if you said, yo, you dreamed these cars that 2:03:50.920 --> 2:03:53.160 you wanted to have and you don't want them? Yeah? 2:03:53.360 --> 2:03:56.880 What then do? What? What do you what can what 2:03:57.040 --> 2:04:00.920 can yours be like that? Like you still have goals 2:04:01.160 --> 2:04:05.000 or you achieved them? Are well? I think I'll achieved 2:04:05.040 --> 2:04:11.640 all my material goals. I don't want to I vote 2:04:11.640 --> 2:04:18.000 for you president of Houston, though, I'll go I Texas 2:04:18.040 --> 2:04:23.200 at least how about property, just just to come over 2:04:23.320 --> 2:04:26.960 it and both of you. I wanted them to Texas. 2:04:27.240 --> 2:04:30.760 Some ships you can conquer without a vote, you know 2:04:30.800 --> 2:04:35.200 what I mean? You can just like prove what it 2:04:35.440 --> 2:04:38.280 is and be embraced in love for what it is, right, 2:04:39.120 --> 2:04:43.800 so I mean my dreams moving forward is uh, I 2:04:43.920 --> 2:04:46.320 just want to try and quility in peace. I don't 2:04:46.360 --> 2:04:50.280 have nothing to prove. I don't ain't often of that ship, right, 2:04:50.400 --> 2:04:55.520 I'm just giving rapid young boy for example. Yeah, yeah, boy, 2:04:55.600 --> 2:04:57.120 let's let's touch on that, you know what I mean? 2:04:57.520 --> 2:05:00.920 Like the homie like he called me, right, I mean 2:05:01.000 --> 2:05:03.080 he called me when I when that ship heated up. 2:05:03.600 --> 2:05:08.720 And then it was like somewhat of a misunderstanding, you know, 2:05:08.840 --> 2:05:11.120 because I talked to his brother and he said that 2:05:11.840 --> 2:05:14.040 you know, he hadn't heard what his brother said. And 2:05:15.000 --> 2:05:18.320 you know, young boy being a young boy, you know 2:05:18.360 --> 2:05:21.680 what I mean, he reached out to me and uh, 2:05:23.040 --> 2:05:28.520 you know, we was able to communicate, and you know, 2:05:28.640 --> 2:05:30.440 he said what he had to say. I said what 2:05:30.520 --> 2:05:32.240 I had to say the end of that. Because I 2:05:32.320 --> 2:05:35.600 think his his discripacy what you was that you you 2:05:35.920 --> 2:05:37.960 showed his jury all the end of that and I 2:05:38.000 --> 2:05:40.920 don't know, yeah, you gotta do a piece of rights gold. 2:05:42.480 --> 2:05:48.160 How much I believe mistake people. I don't know what 2:05:48.800 --> 2:05:51.920 so well I think his discripacy was. I think he 2:05:52.040 --> 2:05:54.640 wanted you to call him direct. Yeah, he you know, 2:05:54.920 --> 2:05:57.360 just like young boys, do you know what I mean, 2:05:57.400 --> 2:06:02.880 A lot of times they have uncept of how things 2:06:03.000 --> 2:06:07.680 should be when when he in reality, they don't have 2:06:07.800 --> 2:06:11.080 to be that way, right, But you know, at the 2:06:11.200 --> 2:06:14.360 end of the day, I respect him for reaching out 2:06:14.440 --> 2:06:18.600 to me, you know what I mean. And as I said, 2:06:21.280 --> 2:06:24.960 moving forward, you know, I don't have to be his 2:06:25.080 --> 2:06:27.640 friend and I don't want to be his enemy, you 2:06:27.720 --> 2:06:29.320 know what I mean. And I wish him the best 2:06:29.400 --> 2:06:33.240 because the foundation that he's stand on I have laid, 2:06:34.640 --> 2:06:36.960 so you know, he had to catch up to that. 2:06:37.920 --> 2:06:41.320 But you know, a little dude, and I wish him 2:06:41.360 --> 2:06:45.320 the best. Is it ironic that his girlfriend exployed me 2:06:45.440 --> 2:06:55.160 with his daughter? So damn, I'm just being honest. Something 2:06:55.240 --> 2:06:59.200 caught his eyes special whenever was concerned, So you know, 2:06:59.400 --> 2:07:03.240 I mean, you know, sh it happens, and people attracted 2:07:03.480 --> 2:07:06.960 to different things. You know, I have a homeboard because 2:07:06.960 --> 2:07:10.680 of affiliated to both sides. Yeah, but I have a homeboard. 2:07:10.760 --> 2:07:13.200 Like may need some pounds, and he loved a big 2:07:13.320 --> 2:07:15.640 woman and he don't want to know where we're going 2:07:15.760 --> 2:07:19.879 with this. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, is anything 2:07:20.000 --> 2:07:22.520 other than a big woman is in something you don't 2:07:22.520 --> 2:07:25.400 want number a big two hundred three hundred pound woman. 2:07:28.200 --> 2:07:30.880 When I first met sunny dmon, pick up a sunny dmon. 2:07:31.040 --> 2:07:40.560 That's what's he got different big right there in your hands. Yeah, 2:07:40.960 --> 2:07:44.720 this is something when I first met him. Oh, he 2:07:44.800 --> 2:07:47.400 wanted his tools. You don't want anything about three that's 2:07:47.520 --> 2:07:50.680 legal though, you all sounding d like? Is what's sunny 2:07:50.760 --> 2:07:55.640 d like? Goddamn whatever? Y'all like, what y'all like? That's 2:07:55.640 --> 2:07:59.040 what make the world go around. Yeah, I just think 2:07:59.080 --> 2:08:05.800 that this is a little sunny indeed, Ja Christ Week 2:08:07.760 --> 2:08:09.880 and that's my wife right there. You're walking through my 2:08:10.040 --> 2:08:18.840 wife just over readest Yeah, ju far bat that. Yes, 2:08:18.920 --> 2:08:20.960 she didn't hit the lot of you got, Jake Christ 2:08:21.160 --> 2:08:30.000 the lot of I feel like we got there. So man, 2:08:30.040 --> 2:08:35.680 I ain't gonna like motor worker. We didn't dropping unread 2:08:35.800 --> 2:08:41.040 sounds gonna ship up. So have you ever like I've 2:08:41.040 --> 2:08:44.960 been um taken back from your reputation because I'm gonna 2:08:44.960 --> 2:08:46.680 be honest like I told, Like I said earlier, I'm 2:08:46.760 --> 2:08:50.400 gonna reiterate this every time I've ever seen you ending 2:08:50.480 --> 2:08:54.720 with it. You always show love, but your reputation super 2:08:54.920 --> 2:08:58.880 succeeds itself. Like people like man keep chap prints chap, 2:08:59.400 --> 2:09:02.920 Like I think that I'm thinking like good and I 2:09:03.000 --> 2:09:07.280 went on certain sites they said, why is everybody scared 2:09:07.320 --> 2:09:11.360 of teperts? Like there was an actual headline? You ever 2:09:11.440 --> 2:09:13.680 you ever get mad at that? Yeah? I don't. I 2:09:13.720 --> 2:09:15.640 don't like that, you know what I mean? I don't. 2:09:15.800 --> 2:09:18.640 I don't try to walk around big. I'm a little dude, 2:09:19.600 --> 2:09:21.000 you know what I mean. So I don't have no 2:09:21.280 --> 2:09:28.120 like little dude complex lawyer teeth got lawyer's lawyer got 2:09:28.200 --> 2:09:34.200 damn you kill the guys and boll Man they got 2:09:35.440 --> 2:09:38.800 stuff out. So I don't like this ship means nothing 2:09:38.840 --> 2:09:42.720 to me, right like, But like my old g and 2:09:42.880 --> 2:09:46.560 Larry Hooper, I got that in my notes. Yeah you 2:09:46.640 --> 2:09:49.240 know what I mean, A little Larry Hooper. Let me 2:09:49.280 --> 2:09:53.080 actually go before you continue that. When Rick Ross made 2:09:53.160 --> 2:10:01.920 that record, I feel like Larry who. Yeah, yeah, was 2:10:02.000 --> 2:10:07.920 that disrespect? You know? I don't personally I don't consider disrespect, 2:10:08.040 --> 2:10:11.960 but I don't think it was disrespect, was I mean? 2:10:12.040 --> 2:10:15.080 I know, Rick Ross, that's the hardly right And why 2:10:15.160 --> 2:10:17.920 do people take that as disrespect? I don't understand that. 2:10:19.200 --> 2:10:23.760 You know, once again the elevator. You know, certain people can't. Yeah, 2:10:23.760 --> 2:10:25.600 you know what I mean, Sometimes you have to like 2:10:25.760 --> 2:10:29.360 really deal with it and and I did you know, 2:10:29.440 --> 2:10:33.840 I let Ross telling that story. But you know Ross is, uh, 2:10:34.160 --> 2:10:41.800 that's the Homan and that's smooth going forward, but it 2:10:41.840 --> 2:10:48.400 says a lot because I want to be careful. What 2:10:48.960 --> 2:10:52.400 was the misunderstanding to your knowledge? Like when you know, 2:10:52.640 --> 2:10:55.400 even using the big homie name, you know, like it's 2:10:55.640 --> 2:10:58.360 I don't want to get into people. Cool cool, And 2:10:58.480 --> 2:11:01.000 I could see a lot of things. But you know 2:11:01.360 --> 2:11:07.120 what's what's important is uh, you know I was able 2:11:07.200 --> 2:11:11.400 to speak up with a home is what's concerned Rick Ross, 2:11:12.320 --> 2:11:15.640 And I know he had no I don't think any 2:11:15.920 --> 2:11:19.160 mean dirty shit in his heart. So as you can see, 2:11:19.280 --> 2:11:25.040 we're moving forward. And uh, but that's my old g 2:11:25.240 --> 2:11:28.280 I love it, man, Yeah you know what I mean. 2:11:28.360 --> 2:11:33.200 It's so much deeper than wrong. Now you're being from Texas, Yeah, 2:11:33.360 --> 2:11:40.640 he'd being from Chicago. How did that happen? Let me 2:11:40.760 --> 2:11:47.600 explain that. Okay, Chicago is the first sitting in embrace 2:11:47.760 --> 2:11:54.960 Rappa Lot before the South Chicago embrace Rappa Lot. Yeah, 2:11:55.640 --> 2:11:59.600 that's that fact. The whole mid West get the coroo 2:11:59.760 --> 2:12:06.680 d trod cleaning on how they embraced me before anybody else. 2:12:08.040 --> 2:12:13.080 I wasn't ready for the assid so so I never 2:12:13.200 --> 2:12:15.920 forget that, like you don't forget the bridges you cross, 2:12:16.720 --> 2:12:18.840 you know what I mean. And and they embraced me, 2:12:19.320 --> 2:12:23.760 and they embraced us because they could relate towards more 2:12:23.880 --> 2:12:26.480 so than any to gettle boys your vision in the beginning, 2:12:26.960 --> 2:12:31.480 and and then leading me to meeting with Larry Hooga, Okay, 2:12:31.680 --> 2:12:33.320 you know what I mean. I had an opportunity to 2:12:33.800 --> 2:12:37.480 sit with this man like we sit together man, the 2:12:37.520 --> 2:12:41.440 opportunity to tap into his thinking ability and thinking to 2:12:42.120 --> 2:12:44.520 who he really is, you know what I mean. We 2:12:44.640 --> 2:12:50.880 walked to yard and had conversations, and those special conversations 2:12:50.920 --> 2:12:53.960 to me which led to he and I speaking on 2:12:54.080 --> 2:12:56.720 the intro. You say walk the y'all, We say, walk 2:12:56.720 --> 2:12:59.320 the yard, y'all. Was independ together. Yeah we're in the jail. 2:12:59.760 --> 2:13:03.240 Here he here and don't alligator boots and you know 2:13:03.280 --> 2:13:05.160 what I mean. He was dressed better than me, and 2:13:05.200 --> 2:13:16.000 I was to him in the pen. But say I 2:13:16.120 --> 2:13:18.760 did not You just said, I'm just saying you walked 2:13:18.800 --> 2:13:29.640 the yard. Then we walked and talked. Okay, jail listen ya, 2:13:29.720 --> 2:13:33.360 gotta kids hit the book. Holy. We had opportunity to 2:13:33.440 --> 2:13:36.680 walk and talk and spit real game at the time. 2:13:37.760 --> 2:13:40.960 Now I had that thing on, mom, because that's how 2:13:41.000 --> 2:13:45.360 they set him up with a bug and a wristband two, 2:13:46.520 --> 2:13:49.200 charging him with all the charges that you're charging him with. Right, 2:13:52.600 --> 2:13:54.440 We're gonna show this on a vault right now too. 2:13:54.920 --> 2:14:04.000 That's that us ho. Yeah, uh what does he help 2:14:04.040 --> 2:14:10.680 on a couzy swamp where I just said that, yeah, 2:14:10.840 --> 2:14:16.520 good taste in the kids in It's just the way 2:14:16.600 --> 2:14:23.360 that was So what was important or was the conversation 2:14:23.520 --> 2:14:28.000 we had and the brilliance that he possessed. We saw 2:14:28.120 --> 2:14:31.920 to me, we layed to you know, the intro that 2:14:32.040 --> 2:14:35.000 are done on the getto Boards album that the FIDS 2:14:35.160 --> 2:14:38.960 and the state officials threatened me to not put out. Right, 2:14:39.440 --> 2:14:42.480 You're like, you put this out. This is what's coming, 2:14:43.160 --> 2:14:46.320 this is what's coming, this is what's coming, and that 2:14:46.600 --> 2:14:48.720 at the end of the day, I'm like, you know 2:14:49.200 --> 2:14:52.880 all that's coming that's going out, you know what I mean? 2:14:53.000 --> 2:14:58.040 That he the message that he delivered is relevant to 2:14:58.200 --> 2:15:02.120 date about gainst the go to the pole, you know 2:15:02.160 --> 2:15:04.960 what I mean, he's spent like real science. This was 2:15:05.080 --> 2:15:09.640 over twenty years ago, but he's spent science as relevant 2:15:09.800 --> 2:15:12.720 today because the truth standing forever. The lie you have 2:15:12.840 --> 2:15:17.360 to keep changing, right, the truth don't never change. It 2:15:17.480 --> 2:15:20.640 was it stands in tends of time. So he was 2:15:20.680 --> 2:15:24.080 spending the truth even way back then and is relevant 2:15:24.200 --> 2:15:27.240 right now. Yeah, you need the podcast. Yeah, that's what 2:15:27.680 --> 2:15:34.480 causes them, you Julians beauty. I'm already producing right now. 2:15:34.560 --> 2:15:38.280 I got five episodes done, which that's what causes them 2:15:38.360 --> 2:15:42.880 to fear who he is. But he's really uh like 2:15:43.000 --> 2:15:46.760 a prophet, you know what I mean. He really possessed 2:15:46.840 --> 2:15:52.960 those qualities to lead us today. And I'm gonna says 2:15:54.520 --> 2:15:57.080 so I'm gonna say something. I'm gonna say something that 2:15:57.520 --> 2:16:02.200 I say a lot. I don't think anybody ever paid 2:16:02.200 --> 2:16:05.120 attention to me, but I've been to Chicago in those 2:16:05.360 --> 2:16:09.080 in those days with my baddest family is from Chicago. Yeah, 2:16:09.800 --> 2:16:13.680 I appreciate it more with O. G. S had control 2:16:14.840 --> 2:16:18.240 of it as opposed to now, where like I used 2:16:18.240 --> 2:16:22.720 to go to to see my brother, the Latin Kings 2:16:22.760 --> 2:16:24.560 will be on top of the motherfucking because it's my 2:16:24.600 --> 2:16:27.760 span is family, So the Latin Kings will be on 2:16:27.840 --> 2:16:30.160 top of the roof like that that takes that take 2:16:30.240 --> 2:16:35.560 me coming through so serious and that's when older ogs was. 2:16:36.360 --> 2:16:43.080 Now there's no structure anything. So that's when Chicago like 2:16:43.400 --> 2:16:45.760 got loose. It's when they took Larry who was the 2:16:45.760 --> 2:16:49.160 way they cook took. Uh, it's been proven and show up. 2:16:49.560 --> 2:16:54.920 Um what's my man name? Um from for um Jeff Ford. 2:16:55.160 --> 2:16:58.560 That's that. That's that's the dude that I see the 2:16:58.600 --> 2:17:02.200 documentary on him and I'm a kato the span dude 2:17:02.280 --> 2:17:05.440 like when when they took away the leaders and I 2:17:05.520 --> 2:17:09.360 think police actually recognized that. I think police knew that 2:17:09.879 --> 2:17:12.160 once they took the leaders of these organizations. A wait, 2:17:13.080 --> 2:17:15.960 that's this young dude attitude that we're dealing with right now, 2:17:16.080 --> 2:17:19.320 like funk everybody else. Yeah, because we deal with that, 2:17:19.520 --> 2:17:21.480 we have O G s that would give us consequences. 2:17:21.520 --> 2:17:23.120 Not I don't have O G. Do you agree with 2:17:23.200 --> 2:17:25.400 what I'm saying on you? No? One under said. Now, 2:17:25.440 --> 2:17:29.119 it's about the I G O O G. You know, yeah, 2:17:30.720 --> 2:17:35.400 but let's put that off the graphic right now. Yeah. 2:17:35.800 --> 2:17:38.800 You know, the O G is dominant in Lanta, hooba 2:17:39.800 --> 2:17:44.840 is is relevant today and you know what I mean, 2:17:44.920 --> 2:17:49.520 when he come in, you know, we all ride with him. 2:17:49.680 --> 2:17:56.920 He said, he coming home soon coming and look, you 2:17:57.040 --> 2:17:59.360 never get you never get scared of the connections you've 2:17:59.360 --> 2:18:01.240 got because just think about it, like it's not a 2:18:01.280 --> 2:18:03.320 lot of people would ever say they spoke to Larry 2:18:03.360 --> 2:18:09.600 woman walked around jail with him with gators. Yeah, one 2:18:09.680 --> 2:18:12.800 of one. You have to like understand fear. Fears. It's 2:18:12.879 --> 2:18:15.520 something that's not of guard, you know what I mean. 2:18:15.680 --> 2:18:18.920 So you can't embrace fear and said fear it's black. 2:18:19.080 --> 2:18:23.000 It's not of God, that's not of God. No, you're 2:18:23.000 --> 2:18:25.760 being fear. That's the death. Yeah, that's some dark ship. 2:18:26.240 --> 2:18:30.400 You're scared. That's the best, some other ship. You submitted 2:18:30.480 --> 2:18:35.480 to something that's less. And so Ris Jimmie offer very 2:18:43.680 --> 2:18:45.760 this is, this is, this is so light that man, 2:18:46.200 --> 2:18:53.480 a little shot up taken the same time, you know 2:18:56.040 --> 2:18:59.000 in the red It's okay, it's okay. That is called 2:18:59.080 --> 2:19:01.160 that's called neutru. It's you know what I'm saying, Like 2:19:02.840 --> 2:19:06.120 you miss with the white, it's called neutro. God, damnit, man, 2:19:06.240 --> 2:19:10.320 let me tell you something, Jay Prince, And this is crazy. 2:19:10.320 --> 2:19:12.000 I also want to big up your son too, because 2:19:12.040 --> 2:19:13.720 we spoke about him, but I didn't pick him up, 2:19:13.720 --> 2:19:15.680 and I want to make sure I do big him up. 2:19:17.240 --> 2:19:20.360 Always a respectful dude always every time I see him, 2:19:20.959 --> 2:19:25.320 Always what's up? Yea. But not only that. Every time 2:19:25.360 --> 2:19:28.920 I do an episode I google as me, I go 2:19:29.120 --> 2:19:32.160 to Twitter because Twitter is my most negative ship. Every 2:19:33.200 --> 2:19:34.920 like I got all my allar ship. So I go 2:19:35.000 --> 2:19:36.480 to Twitter because I want to get that out the 2:19:36.560 --> 2:19:40.080 way real fast, like let's get the neg activity out. Yeah, 2:19:40.480 --> 2:19:43.200 And I said, Yo, y'all got any questions for Jay 2:19:43.280 --> 2:19:50.039 Prince And here's to respect to yourself. Yeah, twelve people. 2:19:50.040 --> 2:19:53.280 I got a hundred messages, twelve people. This is within Twitter, 2:19:53.440 --> 2:19:57.200 like twelve to twenty minutes. So people said, is he 2:19:57.760 --> 2:20:00.560 basing his thing on his pops? And I said, oh, 2:20:00.760 --> 2:20:05.480 this is young. They don't know I'm talking mother pops. 2:20:06.240 --> 2:20:08.800 But that let me know your son is laying down 2:20:08.959 --> 2:20:11.520 motherfucking ground. You know he can come out of my 2:20:11.640 --> 2:20:28.440 nutban that you no, no, no, but that goutta that 2:20:28.560 --> 2:20:32.240 gotta feel good that guy. I'm crying on them that 2:20:32.400 --> 2:20:38.600 he's not only continuing legacy, he continued with respect. I 2:20:38.680 --> 2:20:42.199 think I'm there, and I apologize for for for going back. 2:20:42.560 --> 2:20:46.280 I think that was the most problem that I had 2:20:46.520 --> 2:20:50.560 when I heard the birdman that didn't pay or the 2:20:50.640 --> 2:20:56.080 discrepancys was was I see the character of your son? Yeah, 2:20:57.600 --> 2:21:02.080 he's a version of you. He deserves. Yeah, so I 2:21:02.200 --> 2:21:06.280 didn't understand where the disconnector was. Did you understand where 2:21:06.280 --> 2:21:08.959 the dis connect was? Enough, I'm gonna take a shot. 2:21:09.440 --> 2:21:11.280 Your shot. You can't put that down? You know, you 2:21:11.320 --> 2:21:21.040 got you gotta know that he do. Come on, y'all know, 2:21:21.080 --> 2:21:27.840 I don't really drink. Listen, your ship it's illegal. So yeah, 2:21:28.320 --> 2:21:32.320 speaking of the Homer, but with the homie, yeah, because yeah, 2:21:34.320 --> 2:21:39.880 once again he found himself in a situation. Well, you 2:21:39.959 --> 2:21:42.880 don't understand all that happened there. Like I'm from the 2:21:42.920 --> 2:21:46.120 school where everybody don't go right, and I feel like 2:21:47.240 --> 2:21:51.520 whatever you've done all became that came before me. I 2:21:51.600 --> 2:21:53.880 don't go you know what I mean, because I ain't 2:21:53.879 --> 2:21:57.520 gonna react the same. I'm gonna I'm gonna do different ships. Right. 2:21:58.320 --> 2:22:03.560 But along that eLearning, I understood that what had happened, 2:22:03.800 --> 2:22:06.200 you know, I grew to understood what had happened. And 2:22:06.320 --> 2:22:10.200 with that advance that they had took, they found themselves 2:22:10.280 --> 2:22:13.840 in bondage. They would never want to like, you know 2:22:13.840 --> 2:22:17.039 what I mean, it's not no ship that cash money 2:22:17.080 --> 2:22:20.680 would want to admit, but I'm sure you don't mind 2:22:20.720 --> 2:22:24.080 here and the truth. You know, when you take such 2:22:24.080 --> 2:22:28.080 a large amount and motherfucker want their money back, right, 2:22:28.240 --> 2:22:30.400 I won't use some paper. I own my paper, right, 2:22:30.720 --> 2:22:32.560 you know what I mean That we're gonna agreement and 2:22:32.640 --> 2:22:35.520 I'm in control of it, then I'm gonna grab my 2:22:35.640 --> 2:22:38.320 paper before you get anything. And here's something. Had agreement 2:22:38.400 --> 2:22:42.320 or no, it was it was a solid agreement, okay, 2:22:42.920 --> 2:22:46.800 because I understand the penis and you told him that. Yeah, 2:22:49.800 --> 2:22:59.840 but lit we sign the people, Okay, I'm sorry. By 2:23:00.040 --> 2:23:02.320 same token, I wasn't a well you know what I 2:23:02.400 --> 2:23:06.760 mean all that recouping action, So to me, that was 2:23:06.840 --> 2:23:11.320 a pause. That was a pause, and once again we 2:23:11.440 --> 2:23:13.600 got it straight, you know what I mean, the best 2:23:13.640 --> 2:23:17.320 way we could get it straight. Goddamn, you're gonna eat 2:23:17.360 --> 2:23:19.040 for the rest of your life. But you know what, 2:23:19.240 --> 2:23:25.080 dope that ship, you know, that was an interesting I 2:23:25.160 --> 2:23:32.520 am told his story, but my son had you know, 2:23:32.640 --> 2:23:35.880 of course, brought break straight to the table and certain 2:23:35.920 --> 2:23:39.960 people trying to cut him out the picture. Imagine that, 2:23:40.959 --> 2:23:44.240 you know what I mean, y'all going chopped this whole 2:23:44.400 --> 2:23:47.960 cake up and he not included, right, you know, I 2:23:48.080 --> 2:23:50.320 had to make some calls, you know, first to the 2:23:50.360 --> 2:23:56.560 home and summer my son not included, you know what 2:23:56.640 --> 2:23:59.680 I mean, almost like, Okay, we're gonna just chunk your 2:23:59.720 --> 2:24:03.040 little something for bringing so I can turn that ship 2:24:03.120 --> 2:24:06.400 around too. Oh so let me get this straight. I 2:24:06.640 --> 2:24:08.960 want to get Mr. Come out the door to listen, 2:24:09.040 --> 2:24:11.520 So let me get this straight. So they not only 2:24:11.560 --> 2:24:14.000 agree with what they said was we're just gonna piece 2:24:14.040 --> 2:24:19.760 you off for what was it called discovery final s 2:24:19.800 --> 2:24:23.040 feet Now I'm in for the rest of my life exactly. 2:24:23.360 --> 2:24:25.440 And that wasn't kids money, that was some other people. 2:24:26.240 --> 2:24:29.720 But I got this ship straight, like we know, find 2:24:29.760 --> 2:24:34.400 the fee niggers, right, this is a fee feed. We're 2:24:34.440 --> 2:24:38.680 like really in this ship was the first like challenge. 2:24:38.920 --> 2:24:42.200 Then we got that straight and then you know, hey, 2:24:42.400 --> 2:24:44.680 you know I can't complain about none of that ship 2:24:44.959 --> 2:24:49.840 because ultimately it uh, it was a blessing, blessing, you 2:24:49.920 --> 2:24:51.560 know what I mean, it turned out that way and 2:24:51.600 --> 2:24:54.120 the end, you know, you know how ship is the 2:24:54.480 --> 2:24:58.840 challenges along the journey and this depends on what you 2:24:58.959 --> 2:25:01.600 do to cause your destination to be what it is. 2:25:02.560 --> 2:25:06.240 And I made that ship be really profitable. It doesn't 2:25:06.240 --> 2:25:08.560 make things awkward for like Drake though, does he have 2:25:08.640 --> 2:25:15.600 any saying that conversation what I'm saying, he's lawyer for 2:25:15.680 --> 2:25:19.320 the easier way to put it. But here's my question, 2:25:19.640 --> 2:25:23.640 and I want to be ast of the manor how 2:25:23.760 --> 2:25:26.600 awkward is your relationship with bird Man? Now? After that? 2:25:27.640 --> 2:25:29.840 Is it awkward or it's just like it is what 2:25:29.959 --> 2:25:33.280 it is. I'm okay with it, Okay, I ain't had 2:25:33.320 --> 2:25:36.680 the comments just beeper than just bird Man slim okay 2:25:36.800 --> 2:25:39.480 as well, you know what I mean. Both both of 2:25:39.560 --> 2:25:42.600 them like with me. But you know what I mean, 2:25:42.760 --> 2:25:46.480 It ain't bird Man siventy five slam point a fifty 2:25:46.560 --> 2:25:51.560 fifty because I understand what happened from the route, you 2:25:51.640 --> 2:25:54.920 know what I mean. So I'm all right with them. 2:25:55.440 --> 2:25:57.920 You know what I mean. They ain't my enemies, and 2:25:58.240 --> 2:26:01.040 you know I consider I still consider I'm distant family. 2:26:02.240 --> 2:26:06.200 You know what I mean, and what I like. If 2:26:06.240 --> 2:26:09.600 I put in a situation where I have to ride 2:26:09.680 --> 2:26:13.240 with them, I choose to ride with them, you know 2:26:13.320 --> 2:26:18.039 what I mean, because the good, I wait, the bad. Yeah, 2:26:18.520 --> 2:26:20.680 that's the way I feel about this ship. So the 2:26:21.000 --> 2:26:23.560 cash money and ump set, we ride them and push 2:26:23.560 --> 2:26:28.000 your teeth right now, you ride, I want them God 2:26:33.200 --> 2:26:36.640 looking your teeth, you cat me. I'm glad they left 2:26:36.640 --> 2:26:39.160 it alone. I'm glad that being squashed. I'm glad they squashed. 2:26:39.480 --> 2:26:41.760 Shot back and grig. Do you want to bread? You 2:26:41.840 --> 2:26:46.320 know you don't drink it old drink to night. You 2:26:46.360 --> 2:26:50.400 don't want to glass yet, you don't want to glasses 2:26:50.480 --> 2:26:54.200 the hard I've never drank and then I want to drink. No, 2:26:54.240 --> 2:26:56.680 I don't want to be first. I don't mean the first, 2:26:57.040 --> 2:26:59.400 no reason though, I just, I just I don't want 2:26:59.400 --> 2:27:02.039 to be the person that old start drinking. Okay, don't 2:27:02.080 --> 2:27:07.440 start dating law you you know they's ant like my 2:27:07.560 --> 2:27:11.160 dream like a drink. She sounds like in my m 2:27:11.240 --> 2:27:14.760 ball she put vocket your da sounds like angela you 2:27:14.920 --> 2:27:17.240 law you, yes, you you need to take a shot 2:27:17.360 --> 2:27:20.720 lay lords and I'm not. She don't need it to take, 2:27:20.760 --> 2:27:23.200 you know, Chris Browns, all these girls ain't more. You 2:27:23.320 --> 2:27:28.760 got to make shot the sertain wash my hands, take 2:27:28.760 --> 2:27:42.240 a big mesa. I can't move, but Mr Goodback. You 2:27:42.280 --> 2:27:44.840 know about Jake friends, Yes, I heard about it. I'm 2:27:44.879 --> 2:27:50.480 looking at how scared are you right now? Listening too 2:27:50.600 --> 2:28:00.640 much like la? You know you don't. You don't listen, man, 2:28:00.959 --> 2:28:02.760 that's this is just the big on me for real. 2:28:03.480 --> 2:28:06.040 Mr Comy more Nas just shout at you out. Yeah 2:28:06.120 --> 2:28:07.840 you're gonna play that for these two right now. Like 2:28:08.320 --> 2:28:10.000 I don't know why I looked at you like all right, 2:28:12.400 --> 2:28:15.240 trying to hear your shine, trying to nas just shot 2:28:15.280 --> 2:28:17.440 at you all to me, how was that that was? 2:28:17.600 --> 2:28:19.320 That was big? That was that was big? Right then? 2:28:21.520 --> 2:28:24.600 You anything, he's watching your videos. I knew he's following me. 2:28:24.760 --> 2:28:31.560 Might know you know he's following you yet that that's 2:28:31.560 --> 2:28:33.520 the crazy ship right now, Jake prison and they can 2:28:33.560 --> 2:28:37.160 follow you like like like that's your support because we 2:28:37.200 --> 2:28:39.080 have to follow a bunch of people because we don't. 2:28:39.160 --> 2:28:41.760 Gays don't Nas don't laugh at everything. We know he 2:28:41.879 --> 2:28:43.760 comes from. You know what I'm saying, it's hard fight 2:28:43.840 --> 2:28:46.040 to make you laugh at certain people don't think everything. No, 2:28:46.120 --> 2:28:51.840 he's not, he's who you know, Yeah, every give me laugh, 2:28:52.400 --> 2:28:55.039 tell you something, yea. If a person is too serious 2:28:55.600 --> 2:29:00.200 four seven year, it's something about him. But because real 2:29:00.280 --> 2:29:04.000 Ginsters laugh, I noticed that, like like real Gatesters laugh, 2:29:04.400 --> 2:29:07.560 they party. They have fundy open doors for ladies. The 2:29:07.720 --> 2:29:13.720 Goddess guys not you know, I'm not some guys that 2:29:13.879 --> 2:29:16.879 act like that and this that, But for those part, 2:29:17.040 --> 2:29:21.199 real real people are respectful, like I come from everybody. 2:29:21.400 --> 2:29:23.760 I don't know if if Jacob Co sign this, but 2:29:23.800 --> 2:29:25.960 I come from arab When the lady, I think Buster 2:29:26.040 --> 2:29:28.240 said this the other day, when a lady walked through 2:29:28.280 --> 2:29:32.279 the projects, we used to carry her back weed, stop 2:29:32.360 --> 2:29:35.280 selling drops. No, that's all right, that's all right. It's 2:29:35.360 --> 2:29:42.560 legal to respect when absolutely I wouldn't ever known fun 2:29:42.720 --> 2:29:46.960 Is it easy? Sore? On that earlier? The Maga stallionship, 2:29:47.040 --> 2:29:50.360 how do how do you actually feel about about that? 2:29:52.000 --> 2:29:54.520 You know that's a progress, that's that's in the work 2:29:54.680 --> 2:29:59.920 right um and uh, it's a it's in a play. 2:30:00.000 --> 2:30:02.760 It's right now where I can see the end be 2:30:02.800 --> 2:30:07.440 happening in properly where I want, you know what I mean? 2:30:08.040 --> 2:30:14.360 From where it started fifteen or one, the homie really 2:30:14.520 --> 2:30:18.160 took the risks and grind real hard to what it 2:30:18.240 --> 2:30:20.880 was on the bill hard. Where she is today, you 2:30:20.920 --> 2:30:22.640 know what I mean? And on the other side, I 2:30:22.800 --> 2:30:27.320 understand her recent after jay Z and you know, all 2:30:27.400 --> 2:30:30.240 the people too, like Spain, want try something. I'm a 2:30:30.400 --> 2:30:47.600 lord to know about it. You know you got yeah, 2:30:48.040 --> 2:30:51.280 but like I understand how position with what happened at 2:30:51.800 --> 2:30:53.480 you know, me and the home, they had the opportunity 2:30:53.520 --> 2:30:55.880 to sit across the table from one another, like we 2:30:56.040 --> 2:30:58.960 all right now. And he's a scout and I'm a 2:30:59.080 --> 2:31:03.760 childer crop and I'm talking about jay z okay like 2:31:03.920 --> 2:31:06.800 he's a Scott, I'm a gyman, and he and I, 2:31:07.840 --> 2:31:10.320 you know what I mean, we see that we saw 2:31:10.440 --> 2:31:14.280 out of eye with that situation in spite of you know, 2:31:14.400 --> 2:31:18.200 all the workers you know, putting that different ship, that 2:31:18.400 --> 2:31:20.320 false ship, you know what I mean. And then the 2:31:20.400 --> 2:31:22.640 homer was able to see it at the tape and 2:31:23.959 --> 2:31:28.039 be like mine, it's beautiful. So I'm expecting the end 2:31:28.120 --> 2:31:30.400 to be beautiful. I think the end is gonna be beautiful. 2:31:30.520 --> 2:31:33.800 I think the end is gonna beautiful because the reason 2:31:33.879 --> 2:31:36.160 why would be thank you to her shot very fast. 2:31:36.440 --> 2:31:41.000 Let's take it on, then take it with the programs 2:31:42.000 --> 2:31:51.280 shouting up. The junior tells what be thinking of something 2:31:51.320 --> 2:32:01.120 that I ain't gonna lie home and want to age two? 2:32:01.160 --> 2:32:06.920 I got you some late everyone, yo, d Yeah, that's 2:32:07.000 --> 2:32:11.160 the homely too. Yeah, it's goddamn it. Man, Actually, rebody 2:32:11.200 --> 2:32:15.520 even spect Jake has it every man of time with yours. 2:32:15.560 --> 2:32:18.280 Don't like me the fett I don't like no about 2:32:19.720 --> 2:32:28.240 that came at me too. I don't like, I'm gonna 2:32:28.280 --> 2:32:31.760 tell you something and just I swear to God, my 2:32:31.920 --> 2:32:34.680 wife is right there. This is one million percent story, 2:32:35.400 --> 2:32:37.600 true story. I feel like taking up my fucking shoes. 2:32:38.520 --> 2:32:45.000 I don't even think itllegal. When the what I don't 2:32:45.000 --> 2:32:46.520 want to say his name because that you didn't say 2:32:46.520 --> 2:32:52.360 his name. The rainbow head kid I've seen shot at 2:32:52.800 --> 2:32:55.200 the actual dude that's supposed to be a street that 2:32:55.400 --> 2:32:58.959 that is the street guy from me. We see each 2:32:59.000 --> 2:33:01.680 other in the airport and the only thing I can 2:33:01.720 --> 2:33:05.120 plain to him I said, I said, Yo, why do 2:33:05.160 --> 2:33:08.960 you let the little homie do certain things? Yeah? And 2:33:09.080 --> 2:33:12.080 he said yo, over room. And I swear to God, 2:33:13.440 --> 2:33:18.600 I said, you let him disrespect Jane Prince m. I 2:33:18.720 --> 2:33:25.280 didn't like that, yeah, and he said I didn't either. Yeah. 2:33:26.040 --> 2:33:30.080 What's let me know that Shoddy was actually well a 2:33:30.400 --> 2:33:34.040 weird yeah of what was happening, but he didn't have 2:33:34.360 --> 2:33:37.640 controlled caught up in the me he got caught up in. 2:33:37.760 --> 2:33:40.480 Because I swear to God, that's that's like. And you 2:33:40.600 --> 2:33:45.840 know me and you know each other. But I showed 2:33:45.879 --> 2:33:48.400 you that respect for my far like I was, like, 2:33:48.840 --> 2:33:51.240 I didn't like that, but you know, and he admitted 2:33:51.280 --> 2:33:53.080 it too though. You know what that says to me 2:33:53.360 --> 2:33:56.600 in spite of and it's good that he may have 2:33:56.959 --> 2:33:59.680 admitted it, for what that says to me from a 2:34:00.240 --> 2:34:05.240 perspective is he never was you know who he claimed 2:34:05.280 --> 2:34:08.200 to be. You know what I mean? And that's just 2:34:08.320 --> 2:34:12.240 thee and the other. I know what I mean. He shouted, Okay, 2:34:12.440 --> 2:34:15.360 you know what I mean. He like, I think he 2:34:15.440 --> 2:34:17.720 was caught off and say the truth because how he 2:34:17.800 --> 2:34:20.400 admitted it to me. When I said that, I said, yo, listen, 2:34:21.080 --> 2:34:25.360 everybody like the s M D thing. I said that 2:34:25.560 --> 2:34:28.680 was the wrong, like thedest homies that they pooled it. 2:34:29.240 --> 2:34:31.040 And he looked at me and said, yo, man, and 2:34:31.120 --> 2:34:33.640 he looked that's why I do respect to me. He 2:34:33.760 --> 2:34:36.160 put his heart down, like because I felt like he 2:34:36.320 --> 2:34:38.760 felt me. Now I get that, get that, but we 2:34:38.840 --> 2:34:43.560 don't drink chimp. Yes, take that. I took a shot larger, 2:34:45.400 --> 2:34:53.200 so keep it real, keep it real. Thinking for him 2:34:53.480 --> 2:34:57.600 to ever embrace that, you allow that to become what 2:34:57.760 --> 2:35:03.480 it became from him embracing that uh, you know that 2:35:03.680 --> 2:35:07.120 just wasn't no thorough ship obvious like I never would 2:35:07.160 --> 2:35:10.520 have embraced that. That wouldn't qualified and heard me be 2:35:10.600 --> 2:35:12.680 DEVI was advocated. I don't think he embraced it. I 2:35:12.800 --> 2:35:15.760 think it happened already and I think he just was 2:35:15.840 --> 2:35:18.920 like I'm here like once. It's still kind of wrong 2:35:18.920 --> 2:35:21.200 because he could have corrected it, because what I toold 2:35:21.200 --> 2:35:25.199 to him. He immediately and I said, he immediately said 2:35:25.800 --> 2:35:28.200 right nor because you know he come up to me, 2:35:28.520 --> 2:35:32.480 quote blood money, he's quote my lyrics for my ship, saying, Yo, 2:35:32.600 --> 2:35:34.280 how much I look up to you? So I'm saying 2:35:34.320 --> 2:35:36.880 I respect with you other doing. Now, the one thing 2:35:36.920 --> 2:35:41.040 I don't respect was the homie. Like the homie. And 2:35:41.280 --> 2:35:43.600 he admitted it right there to me. And this is 2:35:43.640 --> 2:35:47.080 the gamester of the He said, you know what, norm me, 2:35:47.200 --> 2:35:49.440 I should have corrected that. That's being a man. That's 2:35:49.480 --> 2:35:51.040 a man to me. That That's what I'm trying to say. 2:35:51.080 --> 2:35:55.080 I got older him though, Yeah, he admitted. He admitted that, 2:35:55.160 --> 2:35:57.560 he admitted to admitted it. And the work the airport 2:35:57.680 --> 2:36:01.320 also he embraced it. You ain't no, ain't no like 2:36:01.480 --> 2:36:04.000 skating around that ship. He never could have became when 2:36:04.080 --> 2:36:07.840 he became without him embracing Now, he not happy that 2:36:07.920 --> 2:36:11.119 that he embraced it, and if he had another opportunity, 2:36:11.520 --> 2:36:14.080 he would do something different. I believe so. But he 2:36:14.160 --> 2:36:16.320 embraced that ship. I believe so. I don't think he 2:36:16.400 --> 2:36:18.480 embraced it. Let me just beat that was advocate. I 2:36:18.480 --> 2:36:20.560 don't think he embraced it. I didn't think he went 2:36:20.840 --> 2:36:24.840 so far that. I mean, once it was done, and 2:36:24.959 --> 2:36:27.400 this is where I am agreeing with you, once it 2:36:27.520 --> 2:36:30.080 was done, he should have said your listen, bro and 2:36:30.240 --> 2:36:32.080 calmed it down. And the fact that he didn't do it, 2:36:32.160 --> 2:36:36.800 that's his mistake. That's his mistamic. Because me personally, if 2:36:36.879 --> 2:36:39.040 my little man, if my little man does something, I 2:36:39.080 --> 2:36:41.960 don't agree with. You know what I'm saying. But what 2:36:42.080 --> 2:36:44.200 happened is I get it. I get it. Like they 2:36:44.240 --> 2:36:47.120 were making money, they would do him, and they just 2:36:47.360 --> 2:36:51.120 kept rolling with the process. And all of them all 2:36:51.200 --> 2:36:54.000 stop now looking at the benefits. But I looked at 2:36:54.080 --> 2:36:56.160 that man. That was my only complaint. And I'm not 2:36:56.280 --> 2:37:00.840 full the South, I'm not like but my respect you, yeah, 2:37:01.560 --> 2:37:03.600 that was my only game played to I didn't say 2:37:03.640 --> 2:37:06.920 anything about him, just like anybody beloved y'all or anybody. 2:37:06.959 --> 2:37:11.600 I said, Yo, that part right, The homie never deserved that, 2:37:11.800 --> 2:37:15.160 the homies family never deserved that. And he looked, I 2:37:15.360 --> 2:37:18.280 kill you. I gotta told the story, yever. Yeah, and 2:37:18.760 --> 2:37:21.320 I can see the little you have for him. I 2:37:21.600 --> 2:37:23.680 want to love I have for you, well if you had, 2:37:23.760 --> 2:37:26.200 if you had love for me, or what I'm saying. Okay, 2:37:26.200 --> 2:37:29.920 I'm listening here, crazy, No, I don't think so. Okay, 2:37:30.040 --> 2:37:34.200 because we agreed to this and agree to disagree, then okay, 2:37:34.280 --> 2:37:38.879 you some men say it's impossible for him to become 2:37:38.959 --> 2:37:42.200 who he became without him embracing it. Okay, No, no, 2:37:42.640 --> 2:37:44.720 Now if you want to say he embraced it and 2:37:44.800 --> 2:37:47.600 eighty five and sin eighty five per cent, you want 2:37:47.640 --> 2:37:49.520 to put a percentage on the look, Okay, this is 2:37:49.560 --> 2:37:51.640 what I think. So what I think now, I'm totally 2:37:51.680 --> 2:37:53.920 the outside of looking at what I think happened was 2:37:54.440 --> 2:37:56.840 that was something that the dude did on his own. 2:37:58.120 --> 2:38:00.440 And then he's just like, damn, I gotta ride with him, 2:38:01.320 --> 2:38:03.280 like that's what I think. But I could be wrong. 2:38:03.560 --> 2:38:06.240 Don't work like that in real life. Now you know 2:38:06.320 --> 2:38:08.360 why I could Jake st Let me keep you real 2:38:08.440 --> 2:38:10.840 with you let me you could. Your house is so 2:38:11.040 --> 2:38:15.160 put together, this is real ship. Your house is so 2:38:15.280 --> 2:38:18.560 put together. You might look at another house. Let's say 2:38:20.560 --> 2:38:24.000 they're not together because your ship is sold together. Everyone's 2:38:24.000 --> 2:38:28.000 house it's not together. I agree with that. But still 2:38:28.640 --> 2:38:31.920 right and wrong, and I agree with that. I mean, 2:38:32.080 --> 2:38:36.000 it don't matter, you know what I mean. But a 2:38:36.080 --> 2:38:37.960 lot like yeah, you know what I mean. Right is 2:38:38.120 --> 2:38:40.880 right and wrong and wrong and true its true. False 2:38:40.959 --> 2:38:46.160 is false, you know what I mean. The President, you 2:38:48.600 --> 2:38:52.039 know what I mean? That right like he could be forgiven, 2:38:52.720 --> 2:38:55.280 you know what I mean, and he he's standing on 2:38:55.800 --> 2:38:58.080 you know what he's standing on. He didn't turn into rack. 2:38:58.440 --> 2:39:00.440 But so I understand you know what I mean, and 2:39:00.520 --> 2:39:02.920 the love you have for him. But by the same 2:39:03.040 --> 2:39:08.160 token that snitch, that moster, that that dude grew into, 2:39:09.240 --> 2:39:12.720 he laid the foundation to help be all that. And 2:39:12.840 --> 2:39:14.920 did you did you know off top he was gonna 2:39:14.920 --> 2:39:20.960 be coming to snitch all the time? You know what 2:39:21.080 --> 2:39:24.200 I mean? It was like shit, I didn't have to think. 2:39:24.400 --> 2:39:26.680 You saw that ship along time, you know what I mean. 2:39:26.920 --> 2:39:29.960 Like you can see under dress, right, you can see 2:39:30.080 --> 2:39:31.920 under dress who who got you know what I mean? 2:39:31.959 --> 2:39:36.080 Who hanging? Who swinging. Who got to split? You know 2:39:36.120 --> 2:39:39.560 what I mean? I saw the split immediately. I'm trying 2:39:39.600 --> 2:39:45.680 to know what I'm saying. How about you come out 2:39:45.680 --> 2:39:47.720 of the door? You from New York? From New York? 2:39:49.160 --> 2:39:52.960 Did you see that coming? I didn't see it, But 2:39:52.959 --> 2:39:56.160 at the same time, I feel its basically they should 2:39:56.200 --> 2:40:00.160 have kept entertainment and business separate. I knew was a 2:40:00.200 --> 2:40:02.520 good entertainer and he was entertaining great on the ground. 2:40:02.560 --> 2:40:06.480 He was great entertainment, So I didn't know it's gonna 2:40:06.480 --> 2:40:09.240 go that far. When you went that fall, I was like, oh, 2:40:09.959 --> 2:40:12.440 it's about to get bad because he's not ready to 2:40:12.480 --> 2:40:15.680 do none at that time. So now you dream that 2:40:15.720 --> 2:40:19.600 you're a journalist, have you ever seen this type of case? 2:40:22.959 --> 2:40:25.920 I mean, I'm surprised that he's still being embraced by 2:40:26.400 --> 2:40:31.840 some people, as this generation ain't ain't about and it's 2:40:31.840 --> 2:40:35.240 an international generation, and there's so many let me just say, 2:40:35.400 --> 2:40:38.200 it's like a president. I apologize, but there's so many people. 2:40:39.000 --> 2:40:42.280 There's so many people that relating to other people fucking 2:40:42.320 --> 2:40:45.039 their baby mombs. There's so many people to other people 2:40:45.160 --> 2:40:47.720 related to you know, them, setting them up and things 2:40:47.760 --> 2:40:50.520 like that. And I actually agree with that, but not 2:40:50.680 --> 2:40:52.680 when you say you were part of the street life. 2:40:53.120 --> 2:40:55.200 Once you say your part of the stream, like you 2:40:55.560 --> 2:40:58.680 you agree, you agree to that because you're sucking the 2:40:58.959 --> 2:41:03.120 baby bombs too. So I'm sorry. I don't need that 2:41:03.200 --> 2:41:10.000 with trop for just anything for attention, anything to attention. 2:41:10.040 --> 2:41:13.160 You know what. The truth of the matter is, like 2:41:13.400 --> 2:41:20.440 characters who you are nobody looking. He's squat when he 2:41:20.600 --> 2:41:26.160 can you don't stand up like me up, I can 2:41:26.400 --> 2:41:31.240 put that he's a squatter. Okay, I'm just telling y'all 2:41:31.280 --> 2:41:35.440 the truth. The man squatter. You know, we don't seeing squatter, 2:41:35.560 --> 2:41:38.480 But don't stand up like me. And and just let 2:41:38.520 --> 2:41:40.840 it hang and just let it flow. You know what 2:41:40.920 --> 2:41:45.280 I mean. He's squat, so you know what I mean. 2:41:45.360 --> 2:41:49.280 That's who he is in pride. Goddamn y'all can wait home. 2:41:49.320 --> 2:42:06.119 And I'm right there shout you up, yo. I can't 2:42:06.200 --> 2:42:09.800 tell you I was so excited for this interview with 2:42:09.959 --> 2:42:13.720 you and and and also take mrical mind the door 2:42:14.120 --> 2:42:18.520 mother plugging Julian Beverly. But I can't lie when I 2:42:18.680 --> 2:42:23.080 think about so. I thought about me. But then when 2:42:23.120 --> 2:42:25.920 I google and I've seen it and I seen elfy 2:42:26.080 --> 2:42:29.680 one shares the same love for you as me at 2:42:29.720 --> 2:42:34.640 least they said, yeah, I'm sucking on it, bro, Like 2:42:34.760 --> 2:42:37.640 I'm really on it, bro, I'm really honest. I really 2:42:37.720 --> 2:42:41.680 love what you represent for your book. Yeah, and you're 2:42:41.720 --> 2:42:44.480 like a one of one man, like you're really all 2:42:45.040 --> 2:42:48.840 you know. The beauty of about that book was like 2:42:48.920 --> 2:42:51.440 a lot of people, a lot of you know, the 2:42:51.480 --> 2:42:57.120 book gang is a different game, and it reminded me 2:42:57.280 --> 2:43:00.680 of when I came in the music industry. You know, 2:43:00.800 --> 2:43:06.120 they offered me fifteen to send books. YOI you know 2:43:06.120 --> 2:43:10.959 what I mean, your sorry, like to this loan, I mean, 2:43:11.160 --> 2:43:14.080 and done this track rocking and laid out all this 2:43:14.160 --> 2:43:18.800 ship and they're like, oh, it's so the beauty of 2:43:18.879 --> 2:43:21.720 the end and of that story is you know, Mr 2:43:21.800 --> 2:43:25.000 Com we've done it independently, you know what I mean. 2:43:25.200 --> 2:43:28.240 We put a good team together, Julie, you know what 2:43:28.280 --> 2:43:30.680 I mean, was right there and we was able to 2:43:30.800 --> 2:43:33.680 kick ass self publishing, you know what I mean, and 2:43:33.800 --> 2:43:37.119 done a hundred thousand with no problem, and then all 2:43:37.200 --> 2:43:40.280 of those just like in the music game that didn't 2:43:40.320 --> 2:43:44.280 believe around came back around. You know what I mean, 2:43:44.520 --> 2:43:53.440 take a shot, you guys, self published, self publishing. What 2:43:53.520 --> 2:43:55.840 I'm saying for future books. I'm sure, like you said, 2:43:55.920 --> 2:43:58.360 they came back around. So y'are telling me we gotta 2:43:58.400 --> 2:44:03.520 set up the book lab for hip hop's Charlemagne and 2:44:03.959 --> 2:44:06.320 Cameron just got some ship. That's something bad idea. They 2:44:06.400 --> 2:44:08.480 just announced some ship. Okay, y'all be to wrap a 2:44:08.560 --> 2:44:16.040 lot of books book because you know I'm you know, 2:44:16.080 --> 2:44:17.640 I'm writing a book. You know what my book is 2:44:17.720 --> 2:44:22.920 called Reading is overrated? Its just pictures. People will buy that. 2:44:25.440 --> 2:44:31.160 It's not a paragraph. Look just looking about pictures and things. 2:44:33.160 --> 2:44:36.960 A foul person. I'm sorry, I'm gonna have like two citizens. 2:44:37.280 --> 2:44:39.360 It's gonna be like you gotta twitty. You gotta squitch 2:44:39.400 --> 2:44:41.680 your eyes. How coming the older you get, you gotta 2:44:41.680 --> 2:44:43.600 squitch your eyes in this book. Agent told me that. 2:44:43.680 --> 2:44:45.360 He said, it's all about the title. If you got 2:44:45.440 --> 2:44:47.520 a good title, people will buy. It. Doesn't matter the 2:44:47.600 --> 2:44:51.039 reason is overrated. They might read it, they just buy. 2:44:52.640 --> 2:44:54.920 I don't think reading is overrated. I'm sorry. This is 2:44:54.959 --> 2:44:58.760 just mean to get people to buy my book. Like 2:44:58.920 --> 2:45:01.640 like I'm reading some ship change my life? What did 2:45:01.640 --> 2:45:04.960 you change your life? This book called Thinking grow rich? Yo? 2:45:05.240 --> 2:45:10.640 I love that book. Waits from the whole series that 2:45:11.040 --> 2:45:15.720 is what the not thinking grow rich? But the whole 2:45:15.800 --> 2:45:19.160 series has a whole series. I bought that ship afterwards. Yeah, 2:45:19.560 --> 2:45:26.880 so I've never seen you this truth to do that? Now? 2:45:27.080 --> 2:45:31.520 The truth? What is that? Thinking? Those grows rich? It's 2:45:31.560 --> 2:45:34.400 not and it's real. It's not some dude perspective. He 2:45:34.600 --> 2:45:39.720 studies successful people. Yeah, real ship that you have, thank you, 2:45:39.920 --> 2:45:43.280 that should do to you. Okay, thinking grows rich, thinking 2:45:43.320 --> 2:45:46.680 grow rich? All right, now it's a competitive though. That's 2:45:46.720 --> 2:45:48.960 a great ship. That's great. I'm gonna write this. I've 2:45:48.959 --> 2:45:52.840 never seen him like, it's great. Hands turned black, I've 2:45:52.879 --> 2:46:00.240 never seen that's a great all of this ship. You 2:46:00.360 --> 2:46:09.520 got Beijing, don't big man, got j you'll call us 2:46:09.520 --> 2:46:14.360 our brother's came in listen. I don't know. I'm like, 2:46:14.879 --> 2:46:17.400 so something's going on. I'm don't got it, man, I 2:46:17.440 --> 2:46:21.040 don't got a mazing and obviously neither the years. Obviously 2:46:21.560 --> 2:46:28.640 you are kid sage. You look good. You have Jesus. 2:46:29.240 --> 2:46:31.400 I started selling pepper and I went to Santa Claus 2:46:31.440 --> 2:46:38.000 every month. League. Oh my god, this is this is dope. 2:46:38.160 --> 2:46:40.480 I love this man. No, I ain't gonna I learned someone. 2:46:40.680 --> 2:46:44.640 Are we popping into the bottom of loyalty. I'm not 2:46:44.720 --> 2:46:50.280 gonna that's a map. It's my first time time space stage. Yeah, 2:46:50.360 --> 2:46:57.119 come to get another. Get enough ship, go on man, 2:46:58.240 --> 2:47:00.680 larger ship to go on. I'm not bet man. You 2:47:00.760 --> 2:47:02.680 might be changed in the world. That's it. That's just 2:47:03.440 --> 2:47:06.680 listen ship man. That's saying, come on, you don't wipe. 2:47:06.680 --> 2:47:11.920 You gotta drink everything, snig get your own rich, drinking 2:47:11.920 --> 2:47:14.039 it over because it's gonna make it. Tell some truth. 2:47:15.440 --> 2:47:18.320 We're a cup back, you know what, need a different cup. 2:47:18.879 --> 2:47:23.520 I'm so proud of him. Wife, don't all so Julia 2:47:23.520 --> 2:47:26.640 and Beverly. Yes, what was your most awkward interview you 2:47:26.720 --> 2:47:33.120 ever did? Oh? Like, I don't want to smoke crack 2:47:33.160 --> 2:47:39.640 in front of you. Okay, I'm an interview something crack anyway, 2:47:39.800 --> 2:47:44.120 I know I don't think so. But definitely it's not 2:47:44.320 --> 2:47:48.480 dirty because it's way in Florida. I don't want Hey, man, 2:47:51.800 --> 2:47:56.240 you'll figure it out. Just describe the situation. Just how 2:47:56.400 --> 2:48:01.400 the song who by This Ship is so good. I 2:48:01.640 --> 2:48:12.840 dropped the whole goddamn about you. I thought I was 2:48:12.840 --> 2:48:16.360 going to get out of answering that question. There was 2:48:16.440 --> 2:48:19.760 a there was a DJ who kind of kind of 2:48:19.879 --> 2:48:24.120 just look at me. There was a there was a 2:48:24.240 --> 2:48:26.680 DJ that I went to interview. Well, I was going 2:48:26.760 --> 2:48:28.880 to interview him the lobby at this hotel and he said, no, 2:48:28.959 --> 2:48:31.400 we'll do it in my room. I just met him 2:48:31.440 --> 2:48:34.160 like five s whenever. Yeah, we get to the room 2:48:34.200 --> 2:48:37.280 and you know, that's how we want to see stuff, 2:48:37.360 --> 2:48:39.320 you know. He flipped the lights off and kind of 2:48:39.360 --> 2:48:42.560 went for the who and I was like, what just happened? 2:48:42.840 --> 2:48:46.800 So for you? So when you and DJ drive I 2:48:46.920 --> 2:49:03.119 left hand right, we're dropped me and draw hard. Good. 2:49:03.160 --> 2:49:06.960 But it was awkward interview. Yeah, the interview didn't have 2:49:07.080 --> 2:49:11.080 him and he chase me down the room, like remember 2:49:11.080 --> 2:49:13.080 the room number, you're gonna be back, here's the key's 2:49:16.920 --> 2:49:26.480 this is a moment. Yeah, anybody a woman that it 2:49:26.480 --> 2:49:29.680 would be two hundred guys and five females, so you know, 2:49:29.760 --> 2:49:34.840 you'd be getting a lot of literals. What they like 2:49:38.160 --> 2:49:41.440 he said it was it was great for the females 2:49:41.480 --> 2:49:43.760 because you'd be just you'd be feeling like a supermodel, 2:49:43.840 --> 2:49:46.760 like get a lot of attention. But that was a 2:49:46.760 --> 2:49:48.880 little That was the most that I can think of. 2:49:49.000 --> 2:49:52.320 I'm sure there's been others, and we don't know this 2:49:52.480 --> 2:50:00.600 DJ name correct. Is he still DJ say he's big 2:50:00.640 --> 2:50:07.120 show fantastic and we got sucking Jake Prince on sucking 2:50:07.200 --> 2:50:14.400 drink Champs. I really, I really, you know, I don't 2:50:14.400 --> 2:50:16.640 want to keep reading hereating myself, but I really want 2:50:16.640 --> 2:50:19.120 to thank you so much because you have one of 2:50:19.160 --> 2:50:23.240 the most interesting, most real stories in hip hop. And 2:50:24.360 --> 2:50:26.920 I patted myself out of you because you don't have 2:50:27.040 --> 2:50:29.200 a bit gass moment. You don't have a moment where 2:50:29.560 --> 2:50:32.040 you know what he folded right here or he did 2:50:32.120 --> 2:50:35.520 some ship right here. So me personally, I always look 2:50:35.600 --> 2:50:37.160 up to you like that, like you know what I'm saying, 2:50:37.200 --> 2:50:40.560 because I took losses in life, just not a hip hop. 2:50:40.879 --> 2:50:43.760 I ain't got no rap nigger in the world to 2:50:43.800 --> 2:50:46.280 say they beat me in anything. I don't ain't no 2:50:46.440 --> 2:50:53.640 ceo losses just out of hire. Yeah, beautiful, you're feeling 2:50:54.520 --> 2:51:00.520 and I've had it most of my ship. I don't 2:51:00.520 --> 2:51:02.000 want to say some of it. I don't. I'm gonna 2:51:02.040 --> 2:51:04.160 give you more than that. Most of them is because 2:51:04.480 --> 2:51:06.240 if Jay Prince could do it, and he could last 2:51:06.320 --> 2:51:10.200 thirty years and hip hop andrew All Brown's ghosts for 2:51:10.360 --> 2:51:14.280 last because you know, everybody called this thing, but I've 2:51:14.320 --> 2:51:18.640 hadded my feet after you because it was something. It 2:51:18.760 --> 2:51:22.360 was something that Mike Geronimore said right that. Actually we 2:51:22.520 --> 2:51:27.040 just had Mike Geronomore here, great, and that actually bothered me. 2:51:27.320 --> 2:51:30.560 The only part that bothered me was he said, the 2:51:30.680 --> 2:51:33.520 more successful he got, the more that people try to 2:51:33.600 --> 2:51:38.280 take him away from his success, and only my only 2:51:38.320 --> 2:51:40.520 evil bottle from that. Then did he say like that? 2:51:40.640 --> 2:51:42.680 I thought he did take him away from his people's 2:51:43.480 --> 2:51:49.160 pointed the flush, the flush right there. But this is 2:51:49.200 --> 2:51:52.240 not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is the more 2:51:52.320 --> 2:51:57.240 successful you come, the more rules you make. Yeah, and 2:51:57.320 --> 2:52:00.080 you gotta know that, or maybe you think you may. No, 2:52:00.440 --> 2:52:03.800 I don't know, yo, bro. I went to Impact Convention 2:52:05.920 --> 2:52:13.280 with three buses, eight nickers on each. Excuse me, eighty 2:52:13.360 --> 2:52:18.680 young days. Excuse me, thirty young days. I went to 2:52:18.840 --> 2:52:22.600 Impact Convention in Los Vegas. Excuse me, read the faduct. 2:52:23.400 --> 2:52:27.000 Remember the Impact conventions, and I don't remember. They just 2:52:27.760 --> 2:52:31.640 swarmed us that since the next event I ever have, 2:52:31.920 --> 2:52:35.320 I'm bringing my whole projects because I really can control 2:52:35.400 --> 2:52:38.720 my projects. A lot of rappers can't, and I broke 2:52:38.840 --> 2:52:42.400 them all out. So the further I got in life, 2:52:42.959 --> 2:52:48.120 I didn't follow rules. I made the rules beautiful God 2:52:48.200 --> 2:52:51.520 bless so so Mike Gus. The only thing I love you, 2:52:51.600 --> 2:52:54.120 Mike Genus. The only thing I didn't When he said 2:52:54.280 --> 2:52:56.280 the further he got, he said, they didn't try to 2:52:56.400 --> 2:52:58.920 keep him away from his people. And I didn't catch 2:52:59.000 --> 2:53:01.480 it during the end of You, but after I watched 2:53:01.560 --> 2:53:05.600 it back, I said, damn bro. Hopefully he knows that 2:53:06.120 --> 2:53:08.760 being rebellious is a part of our culture. But what 2:53:08.879 --> 2:53:11.760 did he do though? No, he said, he said, no, 2:53:11.920 --> 2:53:14.040 this is what he said. He said, the further that 2:53:14.120 --> 2:53:16.680 he got in life, the more that people wanted to 2:53:16.720 --> 2:53:21.000 take him away from his people. And I understood that's true, 2:53:22.000 --> 2:53:23.640 but I don't think that's the way he said. No, 2:53:23.800 --> 2:53:25.840 he did say, I think he was talking about money 2:53:26.160 --> 2:53:29.080 changing people. That's what he was really. Okay, that's a 2:53:29.160 --> 2:53:32.280 different part, but it's a different part. But at one 2:53:32.360 --> 2:53:34.400 point he looked at Flush and that's when he started 2:53:34.440 --> 2:53:36.640 to tear up, and he said, he said, yo, because 2:53:36.640 --> 2:53:39.360 they wanted me not to hang with him. And I 2:53:39.520 --> 2:53:43.320 was just like, damn bro, because I've never changed in 2:53:43.400 --> 2:53:45.080 twenty years. And then f and you can call me 2:53:45.080 --> 2:53:48.400 a piece of ship rap whatever, as you don't have 2:53:48.520 --> 2:53:50.680 to saying, but I've been the same god since you 2:53:50.800 --> 2:53:53.560 met me, and in fact, I might have enforced more 2:53:53.760 --> 2:53:57.240 because it's like fucking I love being around people. I 2:53:57.320 --> 2:54:00.440 don't have a house to this day becaus I love 2:54:00.560 --> 2:54:05.880 being in condos. I want to speak to Larry. I 2:54:05.959 --> 2:54:08.360 want to speak to the Larry that goes downstairs to 2:54:08.440 --> 2:54:11.840 the gym and goes to bottom water with water from 2:54:11.879 --> 2:54:17.800 the founton, like, Larry, you know you're rich. Evening else 2:54:17.840 --> 2:54:22.040 stands to the gym boy from Larry, like Larry, come here, Larry. 2:54:23.280 --> 2:54:26.039 That's who I am in life. I like to interact 2:54:26.120 --> 2:54:29.080 with people. So when I had a eight what's that 2:54:29.160 --> 2:54:37.000 ship called eight acres ship, I hated myself. I literally 2:54:37.080 --> 2:54:41.000 couldn't see people. I was like, that's not who I am. You. 2:54:42.920 --> 2:54:47.640 I didn't let it. I just have all the ship 2:54:47.720 --> 2:54:50.720 you have. I got a thousand, but I love that ship. 2:54:51.440 --> 2:54:55.960 I'll take what I do though, here's the power of 2:54:56.120 --> 2:54:59.840 the land. Like it's like you've been going to meditate 2:55:00.560 --> 2:55:03.000 and come up with creative ship and come back to 2:55:03.160 --> 2:55:20.120 the hood. I'm not in the hood, Thomas, like I 2:55:20.160 --> 2:55:22.520 have to come down, said I'd rather like I'd rather 2:55:22.680 --> 2:55:28.720 interact with others, all right, but always good right. What 2:55:28.840 --> 2:55:32.119 they tried to do to me right HPD Houston Police 2:55:32.160 --> 2:55:35.720 Department pull me over and try to get me to 2:55:35.840 --> 2:55:40.600 this on the hood, right, like, why don't you stop 2:55:41.160 --> 2:55:45.240 doing this? Why don't you all this sweet ship right 2:55:46.040 --> 2:55:49.880 and just go and and and live your life and 2:55:50.000 --> 2:55:52.880 luxury and believes you know what I told him, I 2:55:53.040 --> 2:55:58.080 rather be dead, really be dead, then this on my 2:55:58.240 --> 2:56:00.840 little ones. That's somebody I don't want to Yeah, that's 2:56:00.840 --> 2:56:03.240 exactly that's what you want. A more prapic would say, 2:56:04.120 --> 2:56:12.280 you know him my friend. Oh yeah, you know what 2:56:12.360 --> 2:56:15.280 I mean. So that's one of my black tenders. Yeah, 2:56:16.800 --> 2:56:20.480 come on right, come over it. So that's that's one 2:56:20.520 --> 2:56:23.840 of my old zas. And that's the way I feel 2:56:23.879 --> 2:56:25.720 about this ship. When that adn't telling me right now, 2:56:25.760 --> 2:56:34.400 you gotta Larry Hoover number or not. I know you listen, 2:56:36.000 --> 2:56:40.040 run most solid. I can't live. I feel like everybody 2:56:40.200 --> 2:56:43.640 in the world. No, do you feel like everybody in 2:56:43.680 --> 2:56:48.760 the world uses? No, I don't. I don't allow myself 2:56:48.840 --> 2:56:51.360 to be used. I'm too short off to be used, 2:56:51.800 --> 2:56:56.280 too sore to short. Yeah, so I don't. I don't 2:56:56.320 --> 2:57:00.720 allow weak ship too like fall on me and I react. 2:57:02.080 --> 2:57:05.440 I like distinguish it immediately, you know what I mean. 2:57:06.760 --> 2:57:09.120 Get that ship away from me, you know what I mean. 2:57:09.200 --> 2:57:14.160 But when it's solid, all ride, damn you got you 2:57:14.200 --> 2:57:19.720 gotta shot out on loyalty. That's a space, lawyer. Now 2:57:19.800 --> 2:57:23.320 you want some more space, come on, God damn it. 2:57:23.560 --> 2:57:25.600 And then we go just the shot. This is a shot. 2:57:25.840 --> 2:57:28.080 We do want the shot, some lawyerty doing a champagne. 2:57:28.120 --> 2:57:31.000 He doing champagne. Don't champagne, you got damn Now it's 2:57:31.080 --> 2:57:35.320 loyalty champagne. Yeah, lord of champagne. At way, this is ship. 2:57:35.959 --> 2:57:38.080 It's the brand you got and want to put things up. 2:57:39.800 --> 2:57:42.400 This is the shot. He's gotta show. You can't buy 2:57:42.920 --> 2:57:49.720 a right and you guys take all right, this is 2:57:49.800 --> 2:57:52.720 my shot. This is loyalty. They can't buy loyal to 2:57:52.800 --> 2:58:04.800 your respect? Well yeah, no, no, none, none. You actually 2:58:04.920 --> 2:58:11.000 accomplished everything why standard game and not only stay in 2:58:11.080 --> 2:58:14.040 this game. But I could look at you and tell 2:58:14.160 --> 2:58:20.520 you still love this game like you love it? Why? 2:58:22.400 --> 2:58:26.680 You know? You know I am who I am, You 2:58:26.760 --> 2:58:28.320 know what I mean, And I don't have to like 2:58:30.080 --> 2:58:33.560 you know. That's that's who I was created to be right. 2:58:34.040 --> 2:58:37.880 So like once again, everybody got a chance and the 2:58:38.040 --> 2:58:42.600 choice every day, the choices they made determine your destination. Right, 2:58:44.200 --> 2:58:48.279 My choice is gonna real deep with with the essence 2:58:48.360 --> 2:58:51.119 of what makes me tap, you know what I mean, 2:58:51.280 --> 2:58:53.160 and that that I stand on, that that makes me 2:58:53.280 --> 2:58:57.039 take that's that I'm willing to die for and everybody 2:58:57.280 --> 2:59:01.440 that's a choice. So that's what makes me who I am, 2:59:01.560 --> 2:59:04.920 That's what makes me move Accordingly, it's gonna make me happy, 2:59:05.840 --> 2:59:08.600 you know what I mean, bring me joys. So I 2:59:08.600 --> 2:59:17.040 wouldn't have it no other way. So, so as an 2:59:17.160 --> 2:59:19.760 artist in distress, like when the artist comes to you 2:59:19.840 --> 2:59:23.160 and say, man, I think mab a deal ain't good 2:59:25.160 --> 2:59:29.840 or yo, I need help the home. Yeah, Is that 2:59:30.000 --> 2:59:36.400 something that you gravitate to because you know you can 2:59:36.480 --> 2:59:39.920 help them suit a lawyer, Yeah, because it's that's that's 2:59:40.000 --> 2:59:41.920 that's how I feel. I feel like you're the guy 2:59:42.680 --> 2:59:45.000 that people come to when they like it funked up 2:59:45.160 --> 2:59:47.720 and you fix them, you know what I mean, fixing 2:59:47.840 --> 2:59:54.840 up a rock. Fix I'm sorry, I make I make 2:59:54.879 --> 2:59:57.880 your words. I'm sorry. You know, we got to analyze 2:59:57.920 --> 3:00:01.959 ship where people is concerned, you know, because the reality 3:00:02.200 --> 3:00:06.040 is a lot of times with a disadvantage. I always say, 3:00:06.760 --> 3:00:09.240 you know, a motherfuckerl be on a Harley Davidson and 3:00:09.320 --> 3:00:12.440 we're being a pair of Nikes, and they'd be like, 3:00:12.600 --> 3:00:15.840 that's let's race, right, and you know they're gonna win 3:00:15.920 --> 3:00:20.560 a motherfucking race on Ali Davis and because generations of 3:00:21.440 --> 3:00:24.040 those people that taught them and gave my head start 3:00:24.160 --> 3:00:27.640 in the game this music and the ship, right, so 3:00:27.760 --> 3:00:29.680 we have to figure out a way to like balance 3:00:29.760 --> 3:00:33.240 the scale. And one of my methods of balancing and 3:00:33.440 --> 3:00:37.960 the scale was balancing and where my strength was concerned, 3:00:39.240 --> 3:00:42.560 and my strength was in a lot of motherfucking places, right, 3:00:42.800 --> 3:00:46.400 So you balance that ship and you balance it with finesse. 3:00:47.160 --> 3:00:49.720 You know, you don't balance it sloppy. You balance it 3:00:49.800 --> 3:00:52.600 with finesse to make the scale be even. Because they 3:00:52.680 --> 3:00:56.359 got edge. You know when your great grandfather your grandfather 3:00:56.560 --> 3:01:00.920 and gave you game on how to funk us, you 3:01:01.000 --> 3:01:05.160 know what I mean. Then that's edge. So we have 3:01:05.320 --> 3:01:07.360 to have that same game and put it on the 3:01:07.360 --> 3:01:10.480 other side or the scale to balance that ship off. 3:01:11.560 --> 3:01:21.920 That one can't complaint. Well, this show was on Revote TV, 3:01:26.440 --> 3:01:30.760 but we got to Revote TV. Box was facing something 3:01:30.920 --> 3:01:35.080 called a discrimination loss, right, like he didn't have enough 3:01:35.240 --> 3:01:39.240 white people? Yeah, did you ever face anything like that? Like, well, 3:01:39.480 --> 3:01:43.240 most definitely get out throughout my whole journey, you know 3:01:43.280 --> 3:01:48.080 what I mean, discrimination took place, and uh, absolutely poor 3:01:48.200 --> 3:01:51.800 for knowing how to deal with that ship and bring 3:01:51.920 --> 3:01:55.959 on players that compliment his movement. You know what I mean, 3:01:56.080 --> 3:02:00.400 because you know a lot of people submit, you know, Amitt, 3:02:00.840 --> 3:02:03.680 you know who was saying it best right, and this 3:02:03.920 --> 3:02:07.600 might be like a little vote or whatnot, but who 3:02:07.680 --> 3:02:10.360 will say when when they try to stick a dick 3:02:10.400 --> 3:02:13.480 in your ass and you move your ass getting revenge, 3:02:16.040 --> 3:02:24.560 I'm hurt. It's like he said, you try to put 3:02:24.600 --> 3:02:26.960 a dick in your ass to the movie. Yeah, they 3:02:27.040 --> 3:02:33.040 said you were Revell, you know what I mean that, 3:02:33.640 --> 3:02:40.360 But that's like real ship, right, that's for like homeless 3:02:40.440 --> 3:02:43.960 like puff you and wasn't not to stand up you 3:02:44.040 --> 3:02:47.560 know with rip vote against rip vote, whatever the funk 3:02:47.600 --> 3:02:49.800 it might be. You know what I mean. I liked 3:02:49.879 --> 3:02:56.560 that kind of ship. Got them, got them. Let's also 3:02:56.680 --> 3:03:00.160 make noise because he said it earlier. He said that 3:03:00.400 --> 3:03:03.080 um Lobby Hoover should be coming home. And I'm gonna 3:03:03.080 --> 3:03:06.320 be honest, this is me from the outside looking in, 3:03:06.440 --> 3:03:09.960 and now I there's not a person in Chicago. I 3:03:10.080 --> 3:03:12.640 don't know one of my black family members or my 3:03:12.800 --> 3:03:16.440 Puerto Rican family member. So I'm investing in Chicago, and 3:03:16.480 --> 3:03:21.160 I'm gonna tray you something. Well, fans might kill me 3:03:21.280 --> 3:03:27.000 for this. When Larry Hoover was home, Chicago was peace. 3:03:28.480 --> 3:03:31.480 When the old Jez was home, it was for peace. 3:03:33.600 --> 3:03:36.560 There's something that happened with the police structure that funked 3:03:36.600 --> 3:03:40.600 up Chicago. Because I had never seen Chicago this violence. 3:03:40.920 --> 3:03:45.640 I used to actually go to Chicago and just walk 3:03:45.800 --> 3:03:49.080 through every area. I never the one, you know, the 3:03:49.160 --> 3:03:51.520 one thing they told me, you'll put your pants leg 3:03:51.560 --> 3:03:55.280 down because I had my hair's leg go long to 3:03:55.400 --> 3:03:57.600 the left and it was like, you put your pants 3:03:57.720 --> 3:04:04.200 leg down here, And I was like what And that's 3:04:04.240 --> 3:04:07.320 by design though, you know by design too. They took 3:04:07.360 --> 3:04:10.800 the o G s out here, took all our political prisoners, 3:04:11.320 --> 3:04:15.160 you know, the past that they're strong because they understood 3:04:15.240 --> 3:04:17.400 that we had a certain amount of respect for him 3:04:17.879 --> 3:04:20.800 and that they could be somewhere to some saviors organizing 3:04:20.920 --> 3:04:23.039 figures out, you know what I mean. So it's it's 3:04:23.080 --> 3:04:25.840 no mistake as you think that's the reason why. And 3:04:26.160 --> 3:04:28.400 and you know, God bless me, you think the reason 3:04:28.440 --> 3:04:30.200 why the Texas is not out of line like that, 3:04:30.360 --> 3:04:32.800 it's like because they have U as a structure, Like 3:04:32.959 --> 3:04:36.440 everyone has that ability to say, you know what, look 3:04:36.480 --> 3:04:39.200 what Jay did, Like he came from here and he's 3:04:39.240 --> 3:04:42.520 here now, and you think that I know for a 3:04:42.640 --> 3:04:50.920 fact that's the way. So you know, I'm I'm relevant, 3:04:51.000 --> 3:04:53.560 I'm there, you know what I mean, be a community 3:04:53.720 --> 3:04:57.280 since in my community, you know what I mean. So 3:04:57.440 --> 3:05:00.280 I'm not I'm not one of those guys that made 3:05:00.360 --> 3:05:03.920 it and say the place I made it from and 3:05:04.000 --> 3:05:06.880 abandon it, you know what I mean. That make a difference, 3:05:07.040 --> 3:05:09.959 make a difference when you when you can walk those 3:05:10.040 --> 3:05:14.320 streets like like a lot of people got more money 3:05:14.360 --> 3:05:17.040 than me, but they don't have to respect I have. 3:05:18.280 --> 3:05:20.840 They don't have money and they don't have a largy 3:05:21.400 --> 3:05:24.240 that the homies have. So that means something to mean, 3:05:24.879 --> 3:05:26.240 you know, I mean a lot of times it may 3:05:26.320 --> 3:05:29.120 not mean something to the individual, but that ship is 3:05:29.280 --> 3:05:32.160 like meaningful to me, and it's important for us to 3:05:33.440 --> 3:05:36.520 not make it and abandon and not give back to 3:05:36.640 --> 3:05:39.360 the generation behind us. Then we turn around and ask 3:05:39.480 --> 3:05:44.160 for respect or criticize those that's coming behind us without 3:05:44.720 --> 3:05:47.000 blazing the trail, are saying it's the way you go. 3:05:48.080 --> 3:05:51.000 You know what I mean? That ship is meaningful, and uh, 3:05:51.560 --> 3:05:55.920 I believe Hoover is one of those people. I'm not 3:05:55.959 --> 3:05:58.240 gonna lie. I love the man who in my mind, 3:05:58.480 --> 3:06:05.640 man Who, because I'm gonna tell you something. I went 3:06:05.720 --> 3:06:09.880 to Chicago. I went to this place called Sandy's in 3:06:09.959 --> 3:06:14.080 Compete Green because I wanted, you know, so good times, bro, 3:06:16.440 --> 3:06:18.360 And I don't know if y'all ever so good time 3:06:18.520 --> 3:06:21.160 forty three. I'm like, I'm liked that line hanging from 3:06:21.320 --> 3:06:26.600 up hook was out a definitely out of know the 3:06:26.720 --> 3:06:28.760 hook to this, to this, to the intro of them 3:06:28.879 --> 3:06:31.200 to show you so good times. They I don't even 3:06:31.240 --> 3:06:40.760 remember that good So so now that's the time. I'm 3:06:40.800 --> 3:06:44.280 with my Spanish family because I'm black, and put the 3:06:44.320 --> 3:06:49.200 rigo his family and I'm like, yo, who got who 3:06:49.400 --> 3:06:54.080 the chicken? Right now? They just put their head down 3:06:54.680 --> 3:06:56.440 because they're just looking like, man, we got to go 3:06:56.560 --> 3:06:59.720 to the black side. This is my Puerto Rican side. 3:06:59.800 --> 3:07:03.800 I'm like, they're looking like we can't tell noory no. 3:07:04.520 --> 3:07:06.720 So I'm like, so, where's the Chicken Spot, Like y'all 3:07:06.800 --> 3:07:14.960 Wikipedi Green, I'm highing you mean jaj I spent Jack 3:07:15.040 --> 3:07:19.760 James from me. You know my porter we can fan 3:07:19.840 --> 3:07:21.800 at the time. They they're kind of like worried, but 3:07:23.400 --> 3:07:25.360 I kind of got the past because of who I am. 3:07:25.560 --> 3:07:29.920 But so I went and I went to Sammy's and 3:07:30.040 --> 3:07:33.840 I could just remember every black dude came. How do 3:07:33.959 --> 3:07:38.480 they fucking they see me? And they came out and 3:07:38.560 --> 3:07:41.560 then the police try to come and search me because 3:07:41.680 --> 3:07:44.240 like I forget a kind of car I had, So 3:07:44.320 --> 3:07:46.560 the police kind of coming search me, and I kill 3:07:46.600 --> 3:07:50.680 you not. Everybody from the whole project said you could 3:07:50.680 --> 3:08:01.440 search everybody, and I said it's then I was like, 3:08:01.600 --> 3:08:06.640 I was like, I'm clean. It was like fu and 3:08:06.760 --> 3:08:11.040 to the police and I said, your Chico isn't different. Yeah, late, 3:08:11.760 --> 3:08:13.960 you know, that was the last place al Capone was 3:08:14.000 --> 3:08:19.400 still operating. I don't want to get into that two months, 3:08:19.879 --> 3:08:22.040 but they're still places I go where the Air V 3:08:22.160 --> 3:08:23.960 and B they're like news the Boone House. I'm like 3:08:24.040 --> 3:08:29.920 what and they were like this back entrance. Yeah yeah, 3:08:30.320 --> 3:08:33.720 real Capone. I don't know about him, but who will 3:08:34.520 --> 3:08:39.040 has struggles? Who? You know what? I mean, and you 3:08:39.080 --> 3:08:41.560 know what I mean, we would do shows twenty five 3:08:41.680 --> 3:08:46.080 dollars dollard. You know what I mean. We showed up 3:08:46.120 --> 3:08:49.400 with no problem with structured and you know he was 3:08:49.480 --> 3:08:51.400 I don't we knew him just in jail. Well, I 3:08:51.440 --> 3:08:53.160 didn't know him when I'm not old enough to know 3:08:53.360 --> 3:08:56.160 when he was okay, but I met him there and 3:08:56.520 --> 3:08:59.640 uh wise, man, you know what I mean. A man 3:08:59.760 --> 3:09:03.600 that make a difference for all of us today. Do 3:09:03.720 --> 3:09:07.360 you watch the shot? The shot? The shot? I never 3:09:07.400 --> 3:09:10.440 saw that, and I shot because it's a character in 3:09:10.480 --> 3:09:17.760 the shot. Yeah, this nigga seals by himself. Dudes, come 3:09:17.840 --> 3:09:21.360 and see him, bring him a briefcase for the money, 3:09:22.240 --> 3:09:26.360 bring him a kick, yeah, and a dude. You know 3:09:27.400 --> 3:09:30.720 obviously you don't understand what happened after that, man, But 3:09:30.879 --> 3:09:33.920 every time I watched this, this character, yeah, I swear 3:09:34.040 --> 3:09:36.840 at his lar and it's the shots called the shot. 3:09:37.320 --> 3:09:40.480 So so like there's some real life ship right like 3:09:41.320 --> 3:09:44.800 one are the home is by the name Acrushia. Friend 3:09:44.840 --> 3:09:49.360 of mine just got home from prison, federal prison, came 3:09:49.440 --> 3:09:52.400 home on the first step back. And you know, of 3:09:52.560 --> 3:09:56.600 course Trump was the one that released these guys on 3:09:56.720 --> 3:09:59.160 the first step back. We've been in Trump of shore. 3:09:59.440 --> 3:10:02.440 I mean, whatever it is it is, he done what 3:10:02.520 --> 3:10:06.160 he's done. Right, So this is a brother de then 3:10:06.320 --> 3:10:09.960 came home. That's feeding the homeless. It's like on a 3:10:10.280 --> 3:10:16.000 on a positive motherfucking journey of doing good deeds in 3:10:16.080 --> 3:10:20.480 the community. He wouldn't have that opportunity if it wasn't 3:10:20.560 --> 3:10:24.760 for the first step back, if it wasn't for you know, 3:10:24.920 --> 3:10:27.560 I hate to say Trump done the ship, but he 3:10:27.680 --> 3:10:30.480 done this ship. You know what I mean. You're happy, 3:10:30.600 --> 3:10:33.160 like whatever it is, it hap to be what it is. 3:10:33.560 --> 3:10:36.160 And Julie, you don't like that, but that's okay, don't 3:10:36.160 --> 3:10:42.120 worry about it, right because I don't think. I don't 3:10:42.160 --> 3:10:45.000 know who started it, but I know you know who 3:10:45.000 --> 3:10:47.600 puts the button on the ship down. But here's like 3:10:47.760 --> 3:10:51.320 the real moral or the story. The brother is here 3:10:51.879 --> 3:10:56.440 and making moves opposite from the moves that he made 3:10:56.560 --> 3:11:01.400 years ago. He had a second chance, and he's capitalizing 3:11:01.840 --> 3:11:05.840 and being an asset to the community. Yeah, so I 3:11:06.000 --> 3:11:09.520 view that as an asset. Right. So so when I 3:11:09.680 --> 3:11:14.160 hear you know, anybody, whether it be Democrats, are Republicans, 3:11:14.640 --> 3:11:18.720 saying that these brothers don't deserve another chance at life, 3:11:19.560 --> 3:11:22.360 you know what I mean almost, Yeah, you know what 3:11:22.440 --> 3:11:25.119 I mean, Like they want to just stump their neck 3:11:25.200 --> 3:11:28.560 till they die. Then you got to ask you this. Yeah, 3:11:28.560 --> 3:11:40.040 I don't respect that ship. Boy, it's coming out after that. 3:11:41.520 --> 3:11:43.840 Let me let me answer that, you know what I mean, 3:11:44.280 --> 3:11:48.720 because this is important, right, I'm down, I'm like, I'm 3:11:48.760 --> 3:11:56.959 a republicrack. Let me see that whatever you want to public? 3:11:58.000 --> 3:12:02.280 Republican And what do that mean to me? You know 3:12:02.320 --> 3:12:04.800 what I mean? Is the motherfucker that's on the right side. 3:12:06.440 --> 3:12:08.880 I mean, who we ever on the right side and 3:12:09.040 --> 3:12:12.800 track well where my home is? That's abundance locked up 3:12:12.920 --> 3:12:15.320 forgot about you know what I mean? They don't give 3:12:15.320 --> 3:12:17.720 a funk about and giving them all that extra too 3:12:17.840 --> 3:12:22.040 much time. Who ever have a heart for them, I 3:12:22.320 --> 3:12:25.680 may ride with them, say, and I'm gonna chake the 3:12:25.840 --> 3:12:32.400 right I ride with him. I think who is that 3:12:32.520 --> 3:12:37.879 gonna be? We don't let me see the first stup 3:12:37.959 --> 3:12:41.840 acts starts build builds on the Obama started, who don't 3:12:41.879 --> 3:12:47.520 make sure that God is in places? The first ef 3:12:49.240 --> 3:12:53.280 you say your Obama? What she wanted the reference to 3:12:53.320 --> 3:12:56.279 the actor that let people out of the Probama started 3:12:56.320 --> 3:13:01.720 that she's saying and he started, and King Kardashian pushed 3:13:01.760 --> 3:13:03.600 it on Trump. And that's the reason why you didn't 3:13:03.640 --> 3:13:05.640 let that just recn come out. You know, I'm just 3:13:05.760 --> 3:13:13.480 a Republican whoever with my people, I'm ship saddle up, 3:13:13.920 --> 3:13:31.120 saddle goddamn fun, Donald Trump. It's so great. It's so 3:13:31.280 --> 3:13:37.720 great were white say that. I'm not saying that. I'm 3:13:37.760 --> 3:13:41.280 not saying like a bell that you're white. But it's 3:13:41.480 --> 3:13:45.520 great because you see the Dave Chappelle's get But Dave 3:13:45.560 --> 3:13:48.520 Chapelle is like, why are these guys broke for Donald Trump? 3:13:49.720 --> 3:13:54.039 I think so, but it's so great to feel better 3:13:54.160 --> 3:13:56.360 about life. I don't know how anyone can just watch 3:13:56.480 --> 3:14:00.680 him talk for ten minutes because you don't like that. 3:14:01.760 --> 3:14:03.840 I don't know. He just he just says the same 3:14:03.920 --> 3:14:05.760 thing over and over again with no suthing. I'm gonna 3:14:05.760 --> 3:14:08.240 be honest. I'm gonna be honest. And I don't really 3:14:08.320 --> 3:14:11.879 want to say this, but other than him being racist, 3:14:12.120 --> 3:14:19.000 he is a gangster. He's just he's just waiting. Was 3:14:19.080 --> 3:14:25.720 here rand it on Queens. Ever, lame that on Quakes 3:14:25.840 --> 3:14:29.760 bro won Queens. There's not way you're gonna be a racist. 3:14:30.560 --> 3:14:37.240 I grew up with Russians, Haitians, Cubans, colors moving and 3:14:37.280 --> 3:14:42.640 wrestlers like warres. So you say Trumps, no, he's playing 3:14:42.680 --> 3:14:45.080 a row. If he's really from Queens, playing a row, 3:14:45.280 --> 3:14:47.640 there's no way. But it's like black women. You know 3:14:47.720 --> 3:14:53.560 he had a black woman. It right, Come on, y'all 3:14:53.560 --> 3:14:55.400 tell him. Y'all don't know Trump, and don't tell me 3:14:55.480 --> 3:14:58.200 Trump has been to press out. I mean no, Trump 3:14:58.280 --> 3:15:00.520 in head black puts it on. But has he been 3:15:00.560 --> 3:15:04.640 a fresh album? No? No, no, I've been You've been 3:15:04.640 --> 3:15:07.560 a trust tell me this stuff. Do you think a 3:15:07.720 --> 3:15:11.520 man could be a racist being with a black woman 3:15:12.360 --> 3:15:17.480 and grabbing, grabbing fussy, Yeah, because like like grabbing pussy 3:15:17.600 --> 3:15:20.640 is like definitely talking about going to white ship, going 3:15:20.720 --> 3:15:23.520 in and you're real well of the race, and so 3:15:24.200 --> 3:15:29.480 save your racist slave master w racist. I don't know, 3:15:29.720 --> 3:15:33.480 I'm I'm just I'm just saying, yeah, I don't know. 3:15:34.400 --> 3:15:39.200 I'm just saying, so many girls you go black, you 3:15:39.240 --> 3:15:46.920 don't go back. He got pinched the snoop Dog twenty 3:15:47.000 --> 3:15:49.200 years ago. Trumps out of hip hop. I want more, 3:15:49.320 --> 3:15:52.560 let's get let's listen. I ain't a lot race me 3:15:53.160 --> 3:15:55.560 make calling men ask about fault like yo, check hooses 3:15:55.600 --> 3:16:04.240 a black trumpets kicking right something. I don't know if 3:16:04.320 --> 3:16:09.360 y'all keep you really, I'm not really, but really, let 3:16:09.400 --> 3:16:13.440 me tell you who I met, who I respect. No, no, 3:16:13.560 --> 3:16:22.200 no Blaine Walks And just like no, no, I love her. 3:16:23.520 --> 3:16:27.960 She She has like the biggest and that's my angel, right, 3:16:28.680 --> 3:16:31.280 but she has the biggest set a nuts that I 3:16:31.400 --> 3:16:36.000 ever than any man I ever met Maxine Walks. So 3:16:36.240 --> 3:16:39.640 for all the homies, I won't to let y'all know 3:16:39.840 --> 3:16:45.640 she's a real Democratic. Yeah, she's just she's real because 3:16:45.760 --> 3:16:48.760 when no one was standing up for me, when the 3:16:48.920 --> 3:16:52.560 Fears was trying to kill me, Maxine Water stood up 3:16:53.000 --> 3:17:01.640 California down. How kind of about mller Harris. I'm gonna 3:17:01.640 --> 3:17:08.880 start with you. You know that your whole I don't 3:17:08.920 --> 3:17:17.840 know that next scene like no disrespect to tax show. Yes, yes, 3:17:17.959 --> 3:17:20.760 she's cast of gangst you know what I mean. But 3:17:21.040 --> 3:17:24.920 the fact of the matter is she, like the people 3:17:24.959 --> 3:17:28.400 that was there in Houston, wouldn't ride, but she heard 3:17:28.480 --> 3:17:32.480 the story, she understood it, and she stood up. You 3:17:32.520 --> 3:17:35.120 know what I mean. That's like against all arts what 3:17:35.320 --> 3:17:39.160 politicians are concerned, but most of them are faith you 3:17:39.240 --> 3:17:41.840 know what I mean? For one to embrace and take 3:17:41.920 --> 3:17:45.160 a stand in that ship that I was in. She 3:17:45.360 --> 3:17:52.280 standing identity? Did your boy back with dre chance We're 3:17:52.280 --> 3:17:55.000 gonna get This is a segment of our show. We 3:17:55.240 --> 3:17:59.120 just ask you a question. You just picked one of 3:17:59.160 --> 3:18:03.760 the two two options. You don't and you can skip 3:18:03.840 --> 3:18:07.080 some if you want, prefer you don't. But it's okay, yeah, 3:18:07.400 --> 3:18:09.440 you do whatever you want. So it's called quick time 3:18:09.640 --> 3:18:19.720 with slide Ready drum Are you ready? Let's go, Master 3:18:19.840 --> 3:18:25.560 po bird Man m hmm, Master p Nasa, jay z 3:18:27.520 --> 3:18:32.040 Sjae really deal Big Mike. Well, it did scar face 3:18:32.080 --> 3:18:38.080 the t I face. We're also jeezy Ross okay, jesu 3:18:38.240 --> 3:18:54.480 t Yeah, buying the Trump m hm you get this, 3:18:54.600 --> 3:19:00.520 homies out. Let me say this because you did them 3:19:00.560 --> 3:19:05.480 with two slippery individ a politician. I'm with who we are. 3:19:05.520 --> 3:19:08.320 We're gonna do right with my people. Goddam you know 3:19:08.360 --> 3:19:10.080 what I mean. I'm not gonna get caught up in 3:19:10.160 --> 3:19:14.160 the matrix. But if I had to pick right now, 3:19:14.640 --> 3:19:21.720 I mean you kind of is election kind of right 3:19:23.959 --> 3:19:31.160 before James Harden or DeShawn Watson. I don't know Watson. 3:19:31.800 --> 3:19:37.360 So you're going with Jackson damn who is Watson. How 3:19:39.760 --> 3:19:47.720 I should ride with the Rockets man, Okay, because he's 3:19:47.760 --> 3:19:54.680 Houston to it. That's cloth corner that all. Oh, it's 3:19:54.760 --> 3:20:05.200 me you would watching the hell? Yeah, all right? That 3:20:05.560 --> 3:20:16.080 is Tyson or Damn Tyson the Homer, right, I know, 3:20:16.320 --> 3:20:24.560 Mike Tyson. Uh it depends. Uh, God, damn boy, y'all 3:20:24.600 --> 3:20:31.360 putting m so I got damn I league gonna ride 3:20:31.480 --> 3:20:33.720 to man I leave. You can say both, know what 3:20:33.760 --> 3:20:39.640 I mean? Well, fucking both. Then I this one you 3:20:39.720 --> 3:20:44.200 can't see boom. This is very personal to you ghetto 3:20:44.360 --> 3:20:52.320 boys a ut kid, you know, to me, that's like, 3:20:53.360 --> 3:20:56.279 that's a no brainer, you know what I mean? Because 3:20:56.320 --> 3:21:04.320 I created ghetto Bots. Yeah. I'm so still amazed at 3:21:04.360 --> 3:21:08.920 the story of you actually putting together a ghetto boys project, 3:21:09.520 --> 3:21:13.960 putting it out at this saying you know what I like, 3:21:15.200 --> 3:21:29.720 it's like the first gangster Backstreet Boys. Yeah, but you 3:21:29.800 --> 3:21:34.400 know what it was? The difference was I was focused 3:21:34.440 --> 3:21:37.600 on another hustle and somebody else was dealing with one 3:21:37.640 --> 3:21:40.760 set of ghetto boards, and then I came in and 3:21:41.120 --> 3:21:45.920 emphasized my mind set on the other set of ghetto boards, 3:21:46.000 --> 3:21:49.720 which the other ghetto boys couldn't relate to So I'm like, 3:21:49.879 --> 3:21:53.280 y'all go, you know, I'm embraced the neo. What is 3:21:53.320 --> 3:21:57.199 that the other getting boys end up doing? Falling apart? 3:21:59.280 --> 3:22:03.320 I mean ship didn't it died from there. One of 3:22:03.360 --> 3:22:07.360 them got a murder case and went to jail, and uh, 3:22:07.800 --> 3:22:11.640 the others went different ways. This was my last question. 3:22:12.720 --> 3:22:25.320 Loyalty or respect, anything you gotta say, come out of 3:22:25.320 --> 3:22:31.360 the door. Um. When your name came up, basically and 3:22:31.400 --> 3:22:34.680 I was, I was young, Yeah, it was always a 3:22:34.879 --> 3:22:39.760 saying of someone with the flies on the can't land 3:22:40.440 --> 3:22:44.040 in certain people's hood without checking in. Yeah, so I 3:22:44.120 --> 3:22:48.000 think checking in not no flies on, but check basically, 3:22:48.720 --> 3:22:51.360 just if he was a rapp or use anybody, you 3:22:51.400 --> 3:22:54.240 couldn't just come to anybody's hood. Yeah, So I just 3:22:54.280 --> 3:22:57.520 want to know if any made explain You can explain 3:22:57.600 --> 3:23:00.200 more about that light. Yeah, I can explain that. Uh. 3:23:01.080 --> 3:23:04.280 The j Prince, now I was different than the Jake 3:23:04.360 --> 3:23:08.160 Prince and the twenties. When I was twenty something, thirties facts, 3:23:12.840 --> 3:23:15.480 and it was the thing, right, I was dealing with 3:23:15.560 --> 3:23:19.600 a different challenge, you know. Back when I started, I 3:23:19.760 --> 3:23:25.400 was dealing with a situation where New York DJ's was 3:23:25.480 --> 3:23:29.840 in my city monopolizing the radio station, you know what 3:23:29.920 --> 3:23:31.600 I mean. I had to deal with that ship, right, 3:23:32.760 --> 3:23:35.360 and that's just the way it was. I was like 3:23:35.400 --> 3:23:38.360 like that, So you know what I had to do 3:23:38.640 --> 3:23:43.560 was and I respected Hustle because they was representing and 3:23:43.720 --> 3:23:47.400 felt like nothing but New York should be played in Houston, 3:23:48.520 --> 3:23:52.520 you know, That's it. Everything else was country and wasn't qualified. 3:23:53.680 --> 3:23:57.000 So I had to get creative. I had to like 3:23:57.800 --> 3:24:01.080 figure out how to change that ship because I feel 3:24:01.160 --> 3:24:07.120 like we deserved a chance. Motherfucker's didn't like us, then, Okay, 3:24:07.480 --> 3:24:10.240 I knew how to accept that, but give us a chance, 3:24:11.160 --> 3:24:16.160 and uh, ultimately they led to I had to run 3:24:16.240 --> 3:24:18.800 them out the city, you know what I mean, because 3:24:19.120 --> 3:24:22.360 they were real with New York. It's like, oh, this 3:24:22.440 --> 3:24:25.480 is all ship, this is what we represent, right, So 3:24:25.640 --> 3:24:28.840 I'm like, okay, I respect that, but you can't represent 3:24:28.959 --> 3:24:31.240 it here to day, you know what I mean. So 3:24:31.840 --> 3:24:34.879 so my mindset, you know what I mean, to change 3:24:34.920 --> 3:24:38.120 that ship around and to give us a chance and 3:24:38.200 --> 3:24:41.560 to play the trail for the Homers in Houston and 3:24:41.600 --> 3:24:45.800 the South to be heard came down to moving them 3:24:45.840 --> 3:24:49.039 out of the position of power. So therefore I had 3:24:49.080 --> 3:24:52.760 to fight like a whole movement of even coming to 3:24:52.920 --> 3:24:55.240 the city, you know what I mean. So I'm like, 3:24:55.920 --> 3:24:59.080 I'm gonna fight this whole motherfucker, right, you know what 3:24:59.160 --> 3:25:01.600 I mean, y'all are not gonna bear to send truths 3:25:02.440 --> 3:25:07.200 here to you know, infiftra infiltrate the camp and get 3:25:07.320 --> 3:25:10.960 you know what I mean, your well implemented on what 3:25:11.120 --> 3:25:12.959 you want to do. I'm gonna like shut this whole 3:25:13.000 --> 3:25:17.320 ship down until y'all give us a chance. So that 3:25:17.480 --> 3:25:21.160 happened back then, right, So we moved from back then 3:25:21.600 --> 3:25:25.440 up until right now. Right now. You know, I'm a 3:25:25.520 --> 3:25:29.520 different man. Ship has changed, you know, respect that's been 3:25:29.640 --> 3:25:33.200 given the South has been giving their chance and you 3:25:33.240 --> 3:25:35.240 know what I mean, they're doing their ship. So I 3:25:35.360 --> 3:25:37.840 no longer you know, when I was a child, I 3:25:37.959 --> 3:25:40.760 thought as a child, you know now you know what 3:25:40.800 --> 3:25:43.640 the man So I don't have to like, you know, 3:25:44.000 --> 3:25:47.280 infiltrate that same ship. So I don't I don't care 3:25:47.320 --> 3:25:50.120 who come in and see that's on there like like 3:25:50.360 --> 3:25:56.800 like it comes to I was no flies. One wasn't 3:25:57.560 --> 3:26:02.800 well you know that A lot of the guys, you 3:26:02.879 --> 3:26:07.160 know what I mean. Look, you know I want to 3:26:07.440 --> 3:26:10.520 I want where and they wanted me to know, you 3:26:10.560 --> 3:26:14.800 know what I mean, because it let me to sell 3:26:14.840 --> 3:26:17.520 you the reality of that ship. When I didn't know 3:26:18.720 --> 3:26:24.400 and you showed up, then it wasn't as invited as 3:26:24.440 --> 3:26:27.320 it was when I knew, because when I knew I 3:26:27.800 --> 3:26:30.520 was a allied, when you knew that, and I was 3:26:30.600 --> 3:26:36.200 able to like tell home is old, like he this 3:26:36.360 --> 3:26:40.440 and that. But when you just showed up with some strays, 3:26:41.320 --> 3:26:45.920 then people like, oh, that's that's food, and people did 3:26:46.080 --> 3:26:51.040 people didn't know Texas was about it about like ship 3:26:51.320 --> 3:26:56.640 was that's first or further, Let's just be clear. Every 3:26:56.760 --> 3:26:58.800 year in New York and to turn the ange degrees, 3:26:58.840 --> 3:27:03.240 people get killed his name place all year round. Absolutely, 3:27:05.760 --> 3:27:08.080 get over to get over all over the world. Get 3:27:08.160 --> 3:27:09.840 a boys, you know what I mean. A lot of 3:27:09.879 --> 3:27:13.120 people try to like they get confused about what's happening, 3:27:13.680 --> 3:27:17.320 but that should be solid all over man, you know 3:27:17.360 --> 3:27:20.280 what I mean. It's just a it's about who have 3:27:20.560 --> 3:27:24.680 the best structure in the situation is what makes the difference. 3:27:25.200 --> 3:27:27.520 And I'm a dude, have been government and took Houston, 3:27:27.720 --> 3:27:32.920 Texas twenty two, twenty three, twenty four years, maybe just 3:27:33.000 --> 3:27:35.400 to take it to twenties to stop them, maybe not 3:27:35.520 --> 3:27:38.400 beat it. I've never had a problem, but I've always 3:27:38.560 --> 3:27:42.200 hit one of his people, say y'allah. They always just 3:27:42.280 --> 3:27:44.360 had me then, like YO, were gonna go out of 3:27:44.400 --> 3:27:47.120 here more? You're going on the motherfucking what's my ship? 3:27:47.360 --> 3:27:55.840 What's my favorite? Rest of one? Papa? Tell me, my boy? 3:27:57.959 --> 3:28:01.680 We already that I've never had a problem. I never 3:28:01.840 --> 3:28:09.160 never felt I think people feel like when they check in, oh, 3:28:09.280 --> 3:28:12.160 they hollered the homeliness, and they're supposed to holler that 3:28:12.240 --> 3:28:17.560 they are soccer and that's corny because Mr, I don't know. 3:28:17.640 --> 3:28:19.800 You come on the left frack pupposed to hit young 3:28:19.920 --> 3:28:23.320 really supposed to hit me because we will. We take 3:28:23.440 --> 3:28:27.480 pride and taking kids. Who are you coming to the 3:28:27.640 --> 3:28:31.000 right cheesebird again? You went to the wrong cheese verus. 3:28:31.360 --> 3:28:35.280 That's all. You gotta fucking stomach game. Some talk talk 3:28:35.360 --> 3:28:40.199 to y'all that something wrong make you. I've never made 3:28:40.240 --> 3:28:44.760 you whack. And all these dudes out there, I've never 3:28:44.959 --> 3:28:47.680 felt foul at all, Like landing the same y'a. I'm 3:28:47.720 --> 3:28:50.000 here and they'd be like, all right, cool. Sometimes they 3:28:50.080 --> 3:28:52.240 see the person and sometimes they know I'm good. I 3:28:52.360 --> 3:28:55.120 pave my whole nape hoving me anyway. But I never 3:28:55.240 --> 3:29:00.520 felt bad about that, so I wanted to reiterate that, Yeah, 3:29:01.080 --> 3:29:03.400 that's what you're supposed to do when you go nothing. 3:29:04.280 --> 3:29:09.640 It's your choice. It's your choice, like big you, big you, 3:29:09.800 --> 3:29:14.520 the homing like we we see out of on a 3:29:14.600 --> 3:29:17.640 lot of ships. So but it once again, it's your choice. 3:29:17.760 --> 3:29:22.440 Some some dudes feel like they're Superman. Just come to town, 3:29:23.240 --> 3:29:29.840 you know pretty much. I mean like, I don't try 3:29:29.879 --> 3:29:33.560 to impose my wheel on one way at up, you 3:29:33.600 --> 3:29:35.720 know what I mean? You know, do what you do, 3:29:35.879 --> 3:29:40.920 what you do, taking that shout of you. Yeah, yeah, man, 3:29:41.000 --> 3:29:46.000 I can't. I can't really drink a whole water on 3:29:46.160 --> 3:29:51.080 other wine. A little bit, a little didn't killed that 3:29:51.200 --> 3:29:54.480 ship dn't killed him. Jude Beverly I got in. This 3:29:54.600 --> 3:29:58.360 story is the only story I hate it you ever, 3:30:00.480 --> 3:30:02.680 And it's never been growing up and drinks. To be honest, 3:30:05.760 --> 3:30:10.000 I say I never brought it up. It's gonna go 3:30:10.120 --> 3:30:19.320 up there with your condom story. It's a big story. 3:30:19.800 --> 3:30:22.960 Let's go the real story, your old old man, the 3:30:22.959 --> 3:30:28.280 old love you girl said that she's I ain't even 3:30:28.280 --> 3:30:30.920 remember she said she ate my ass. Did not like 3:30:31.120 --> 3:30:35.000 that it was my wife is here right now fourteen 3:30:35.080 --> 3:30:37.720 years if I wanted in my ass ain't trust me? 3:30:37.840 --> 3:30:43.800 She even know she's never so some girls and lie 3:30:44.000 --> 3:30:46.480 on me and you left her loss. That's gonna master p. 3:30:47.320 --> 3:30:49.160 Well that was the point of that story everything. I 3:30:49.200 --> 3:30:51.080 didn't like it. We did have a disclaimer with that 3:30:51.240 --> 3:30:55.240 saying hey, we can't really it was like, you know, 3:30:56.520 --> 3:31:00.640 I was told by other people that the stories well particular, 3:31:00.680 --> 3:31:06.680 but just some people cross reference to now he doesn't 3:31:06.680 --> 3:31:15.000 sun't do to be confessional little. Some people say I 3:31:15.040 --> 3:31:20.800 got back you. He just listen, he just closed. Listen. 3:31:21.000 --> 3:31:25.240 He has a curs, he has a conser story and 3:31:25.440 --> 3:31:29.240 he hates to telling ser story. But don't listen to Julia, 3:31:29.680 --> 3:31:33.000 You've always been that. I apologizes here confession. I did 3:31:33.080 --> 3:31:36.920 that because they really really wasn't true. And listen, I 3:31:37.080 --> 3:31:39.240 missed some ground. Do some crazy shit in my wife 3:31:39.400 --> 3:31:52.240 like we does a crazy But look, Jaference, this is 3:31:52.280 --> 3:31:57.320 a command. Do you live everly and fucking Jay Prince. 3:31:57.400 --> 3:32:00.760 This is one of my favorite moments. I every moment 3:32:00.800 --> 3:32:04.240 about this because it's real. We sat hands and kicked it. 3:32:04.600 --> 3:32:08.400 I've never seen a motherfucker eating lamb still be as 3:32:08.440 --> 3:32:13.119 cool to speak. You big that Shi was smooth said, 3:32:13.280 --> 3:32:27.240 I was like, you hate the rist. Fuck you asked 3:32:27.280 --> 3:32:31.000 so much. Why let's take a picture picture with Jay 3:32:31.120 --> 3:32:44.920 first and y'all tone then before. Okay, just so we 3:32:45.040 --> 3:33:05.560 did my ration. I'm not run that. Sorry, he's gonna start. 3:33:08.360 --> 3:33:10.760 Thanks for joining us for another episode of Drink Champs 3:33:10.840 --> 3:33:13.200 hosted by Yours truly, d j e f N and 3:33:13.400 --> 3:33:15.480 n O r E. Please make sure to follow us 3:33:15.480 --> 3:33:18.080 on all our socials. 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