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Speaker 1: You know, this is my one of my favorite times
Speaker 1: of doing drink Chances. People that behind the scenes, not
Speaker 1: only this is brother is behind the scenes, but he
Speaker 1: was the move maker behind the scenes. When you have
Speaker 1: people who in this game that says, uh started from
Speaker 1: the trunk? What is it? Hand in hand from the trunk?
Speaker 1: This is brother name pops Up. He's an entrepreneur. He's
Speaker 1: damned there. If Houston had or Texas had a president,
Speaker 1: I think his picture. I don't know how many rappers
Speaker 1: drewry he got back. I don't know. This man is
Speaker 1: a legend, he started the independence. I feel like this
Speaker 1: was our first version of motown and hip. I could
Speaker 1: be I could be wrong, You correct me, or anybody
Speaker 1: correct me. But I feel like this is the first
Speaker 1: version of motown. You got people like MASTERP that looks
Speaker 1: up to this guy, people like babies, people, I mean
Speaker 1: every I don't know people who don't look up to him.
Speaker 1: Everyone from Bump Beat a little Flip has sat at
Speaker 1: the same table in the show and has big up
Speaker 1: this man, and he has a great book Court respect.
Speaker 1: In case you don't know who the funk we're talking about,
Speaker 1: we're talking about the remarkable, because the impeccable James motherfucking Now,
Speaker 1: you you're the big home you look you're one of
Speaker 1: the biggest, the biggest of the biggest home. Right And
Speaker 1: when I went in out and research your story, it's
Speaker 1: like what I said at the intro, I believe you
Speaker 1: were like the first black owned Uh. I don't want
Speaker 1: to say street, I want to say record label, first
Speaker 1: straight up record label. Right, but you owned the car
Speaker 1: lot prior to that, right, what how much do you
Speaker 1: I was exercise of my entrepreneur Okay, so huh so
Speaker 1: how do you translation from the car line and then
Speaker 1: say because the car has to be making money? Yeah right? Yeah? Yeah, Actually,
Speaker 1: you know, I always had a passion for cars, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I used to I used to
Speaker 1: model cars. I couldn't afford them as a kid, but
Speaker 1: my cousin had him, so it recrd dreamed of I
Speaker 1: end up purchasing. You know how you look at them
Speaker 1: ships on your on your dress or whatnot, and you're
Speaker 1: invinging yourself or I want to be in that car.
Speaker 1: I gotta make some every car I my life to you.
Speaker 1: So that passion led me to open a car lot
Speaker 1: because I was connected in the street and all the athletes,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, all the hustlers and whatnot.
Speaker 1: That was a way of making money. Yeah. So so
Speaker 1: all right, because at this time I'm seeing rap making money,
Speaker 1: but I'm not seeing them make millions. I'm not seeing them.
Speaker 1: I'm not seeing all the flash at this time, and
Speaker 1: especially not only rap. Yeah, but let's just be let's
Speaker 1: be clear. The South, yeah, particularly wasn't known for making
Speaker 1: So what made you say you know what this cart
Speaker 1: that is probably like a cash business and because that's
Speaker 1: that's who was there whole dreams like this works, it's
Speaker 1: no guarantee. So what made you do that? No real talk?
Speaker 1: Uh you know, I felt like the rap game was
Speaker 1: the next dope game, just to be real, right, that's
Speaker 1: tenus that I felt that way, and I shared those
Speaker 1: thoughts with many, you know what I mean, and some
Speaker 1: believe a lot of them didn't believe. If you like
Speaker 1: follow me with my intros on the Ghetto Boys, you know,
Speaker 1: one of my one of my goals was to plant
Speaker 1: them seeds and to as many hustlers around the world
Speaker 1: as possible because I was trying to be yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know the whole journey. That's what Carter Masterpe and
Speaker 1: all others down your book signing recently. Yeah, that was
Speaker 1: that was hard. But Julia Doubley was going out a
Speaker 1: little bit though. That was hilarious because I think, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, artists be sensitive, like like like I just
Speaker 1: want article that drid the revery wonder about you have
Speaker 1: a game. But yet you know what she didn't. She
Speaker 1: didn't really when she left the girl. Yeah this is
Speaker 1: so false, you know, but um, but Master pe I
Speaker 1: remembered that and if they saw each other and and
Speaker 1: it was it was you neque to see him as
Speaker 1: a human as well. You know what I mean, because
Speaker 1: a lot of the times we act like nothing, no
Speaker 1: bother us. But it kind of bothered him and he
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, he's likely no excuse me. She checked
Speaker 1: him because he had said something in the interview the
Speaker 1: Proper Club cor a white girl said oh, this is
Speaker 1: the white girl and she liked that. She stepped up.
Speaker 1: I was, I was actually your first. And then he
Speaker 1: ended it with you and Jay Prince. So that's it.
Speaker 1: So um now, let's let's get to let's get to
Speaker 1: what you got over there. Those bottles look very sexy.
Speaker 1: What is that? Cause loyalty of you to man? Y'all
Speaker 1: taste for lawyer? Let's host the baby and I got
Speaker 1: it in Champagne, Merlot, Cabernette. And so that's the rose. Okay.
Speaker 1: So and this is where's this from? This is from France?
Speaker 1: Okay from you don't like the movie? Very cool. I'm
Speaker 1: just trying to diversify my portfolio. The number. What's what's
Speaker 1: your proudest moment in hip hop or that you've been
Speaker 1: a part of this in this music business. But um,
Speaker 1: I would say uplifting the South, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It was important to me to ignite that whole movement
Speaker 1: in the South, and I think I accomplished that. So
Speaker 1: that's that's one of my proudest moments. That's hard, I'll
Speaker 1: be that because, like I really look at your career
Speaker 1: and let's really you're really very unique. Right. What I
Speaker 1: mean by that is people that made it to where
Speaker 1: you always had like a sucker ship attached to it
Speaker 1: on some rumor some bad ship. It's like, that's why
Speaker 1: I used to work impeccable and the thing you have
Speaker 1: like a like what was called an impeccable reputation, you know,
Speaker 1: impeccable amount of respect, Like I've never heard nobody talk
Speaker 1: bad about J Prince? How did how did? I mean?
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's happening, but I've never seen it, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So how do you develop that
Speaker 1: little I know you're gonna say respect, Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know that's that's a part of it. But having
Speaker 1: a word you know what I mean? Yes? Mean yes,
Speaker 1: you know me? No, you know, along with its being
Speaker 1: stand up man. You know what I mean all of
Speaker 1: that helps you following through. Also, you know, it blew
Speaker 1: my mind. The Ghetto Boys was put together. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: Ghetto Boys that we see that we think it's the
Speaker 1: Ghetto Boys didn't know each other. Holy, individual and season
Speaker 1: on their own. Yeah, did you know? I didn't even know? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I supposed to research and they could. Yeah. I actually
Speaker 1: because three other artists that was getting boy, we had
Speaker 1: the original three they couldn't relate to me. You know
Speaker 1: what you're not? He said, you was too deep? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you think forgot told them to go then the word
Speaker 1: talking about because they couldn't stand the test of time.
Speaker 1: But what I've done was went on every side of Houston,
Speaker 1: and I felt like I got the three hardest I heard.
Speaker 1: You said you did research. Yeah, Now when people here research,
Speaker 1: they didn't google. This is a different type of research.
Speaker 1: You had to go because I believe Scarf facing from
Speaker 1: the south side and you're from the north side. You
Speaker 1: actually had to go in the Lion's then to actually
Speaker 1: meet with him, right, Holy, you understand that that's so?
Speaker 1: And when did Scarface? None of them knew each other,
Speaker 1: none of them. Yeah, So what's that first session like
Speaker 1: when you put off you know what I mean, stand off,
Speaker 1: everybody was doing it for me, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: because I told him, I say, man, as ghetto boys
Speaker 1: all over the world, y'all come together and add to
Speaker 1: the foundation already laid. And uh make these rhymes, make
Speaker 1: make these rhymes, these lyrics in my head, rhyme. But
Speaker 1: I had some ship I wanted to hear you used
Speaker 1: to say. I heard you used the curiously you were
Speaker 1: trying to wrap through them because like dricks On, it
Speaker 1: was about Yeah, because and then you get on in
Speaker 1: the book. Yeah, I think it's a chapter in the
Speaker 1: closet or something like that. Yeah, definitely, mind playing tricks
Speaker 1: is about all of them things. And how do you
Speaker 1: come across someone like Bushwick? You know, I saw Bushwick
Speaker 1: in the club. Man, I saw him in the club
Speaker 1: doing some dancing and different ship drunk because he always
Speaker 1: the same way. Yeah, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 1: thought he was a I catch you all right, yeah,
Speaker 1: because that's just that's just that's pure of talent though,
Speaker 1: like because at the time, uh, like I don't I
Speaker 1: don't remember a rap group like having like an art
Speaker 1: that's like an art character like at that time, Like
Speaker 1: I mean that that was the first one, right like
Speaker 1: Bush mcville. I mean, if you consider Flame maybe for
Speaker 1: public enemy and sense as a character. Okay, Now, one
Speaker 1: thing that I always when I visited Houston, I realized
Speaker 1: how big Houston was, And I always realized. I always
Speaker 1: thought that it's gonna be one person that could only
Speaker 1: sell their music to just Houston and blow just just
Speaker 1: what Houston, because that's how big it is. Like I
Speaker 1: feel like there's gonna be an artist that can just
Speaker 1: promote to Houston. I mean when I says meaning the
Speaker 1: whole text is my bad, but because I'm texted so big,
Speaker 1: that's what I mean. You think that that there's a
Speaker 1: day there that that that could happen. Oh yeah, all
Speaker 1: things are possible. Okay, so yeah, so let let let
Speaker 1: me just show you the names that's associated with you
Speaker 1: when I googled you. I want to show you this.
Speaker 1: This is this did you did you do this? I
Speaker 1: mean I know a lot of it, alright, cool? Hold on,
Speaker 1: who was the first that wasn't the first group you signed?
Speaker 1: Was it putting together? No? I had Raheem, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Raheem actually was a solo artist that
Speaker 1: I signed with A and M. Rockers, and I took
Speaker 1: that money from A and M and put it in
Speaker 1: the ghetto bars. Yeah that he had to go to
Speaker 1: New York to an M. California. Yeah yeah, California and
Speaker 1: odd Squad was on. It was an early sign, right,
Speaker 1: did you know he was a breakout at the squad.
Speaker 1: I felt that we always felt the arts score was
Speaker 1: before their time, you know what I mean? When Devin
Speaker 1: he stuck out, you know, blind Rob, you know he's
Speaker 1: a blind produced So all of them were real telling it. Okay,
Speaker 1: So when I go with your name, this is all
Speaker 1: the people that came up with Jazz Prince, of course
Speaker 1: your son, scar Faced, Willie d Pushwick, Christina Malans. I
Speaker 1: didn't know that revelation Bumby Zero, Uh when you Sanders, Uh,
Speaker 1: Devin the dude, PEPSI, Big Mike, Mega Stallion. I didn't
Speaker 1: know that you're ready for a track. They're gonna have
Speaker 1: a dream, what yould man, We're gonna lose the things up, baby,
Speaker 1: Because I don't think anybody has talking to you since
Speaker 1: the Mega Stallion incident, right, I hadn't spoken about that
Speaker 1: all right, But because I'm gonna be honest. One of
Speaker 1: the very first things and this is about the incident,
Speaker 1: not um there or when it happened to Megan Stallion
Speaker 1: once whatever happened, I don't, I don't know. But one
Speaker 1: of the first, very first comments I saw it was
Speaker 1: that wouldn't have happened if she was on she was
Speaker 1: with the homies, that wouldn't happened. If you know, you know,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm trying to say. So um, if
Speaker 1: you can't. And man, it watches very nice, bro, I
Speaker 1: gotta lie looking looked at all your interviews. I said
Speaker 1: this man, do come with a nice watch. You know,
Speaker 1: we love watching whoever. But speaking on on on that
Speaker 1: because she was she was originally signed to you and H.
Speaker 1: Crawford right well, never was originally signed to me. But
Speaker 1: sign the Crawford okay, sign one okay. And H. Crawford
Speaker 1: is from fear forarity from my hood and even though
Speaker 1: he a baseball player, he from the hood from let's
Speaker 1: make some noises. That man's someways got damn make the
Speaker 1: more so some moves was taking place right to you know,
Speaker 1: come in and uh kind of scoop Megan away from
Speaker 1: the home because he knew, he knew, he said, saw
Speaker 1: this day. Come yeah, yeah, you know how to go
Speaker 1: in the music industry a lot of times or the
Speaker 1: major's weight on independence to build a situation up and
Speaker 1: they come and say the day they called saving the
Speaker 1: day right, Uh, but we weren't. You know, I couldn't
Speaker 1: have it on my watch. But you know, the home,
Speaker 1: it came to me and he like, he explained to
Speaker 1: me what was taking place, and you know, like a
Speaker 1: big home he should do. I stood up for him,
Speaker 1: and uh, we was able to change things around because artists.
Speaker 1: What happens is artists and I'm been a part of this,
Speaker 1: artists come to get in the game. They signed a contract.
Speaker 1: You can't technically sign a contract without having a lawyer
Speaker 1: look over it. That's technically so that means you had
Speaker 1: your people look over it. I didn't want to change
Speaker 1: the contract. Is that's something like that happened at World. Well,
Speaker 1: the thing is, you actually can refuse to have a
Speaker 1: law You can tell your lawyer you don't really care
Speaker 1: about going through the contract because you for it. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: you had that right. Oh I thought that was mandatory. Okay, okay, no,
Speaker 1: I mean and and and the thing with that situation is,
Speaker 1: you know that's that's how it happened, you know, when
Speaker 1: she actually had a lawyer? This a way, why so
Speaker 1: then I I'm gonna go straight to it. Then this this,
Speaker 1: this Torrey Lane situation. You think that would have happened
Speaker 1: or it had you been involved or I don't think so.
Speaker 1: If it did, I think it had been immediate consequences, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: let's make so much to that guy. Change it up,
Speaker 1: damn change it up. So boxing andre Ward, he would
Speaker 1: tell you too early. I would have loved have seen
Speaker 1: Andra stay longer when undering, you know, under the real
Speaker 1: spiritual individual, a man of guard. And uh he told me,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, that's that's part of the calling.
Speaker 1: God told him to retire to time. So I can't
Speaker 1: arg with God. Lost a lot of money though right now,
Speaker 1: have been a lot of because he would have You
Speaker 1: think he could have went up to like you no
Speaker 1: know what was he's made away right? Yeah? Yeah, he
Speaker 1: was a light heavyweight. I think andre could have worn
Speaker 1: a tight heavyweight wentness Andrea Ward destroyed heavyweight. Yeah when
Speaker 1: he fund open, Okay, don't want to give me finding
Speaker 1: all these these business it's like like what kind of
Speaker 1: water do you drink? You know? With boxing, Well, you
Speaker 1: know what. You know what, man, I'm a praying man
Speaker 1: right first and foremost don't got the opportunity to so,
Speaker 1: so I feel like all my blessings come from some
Speaker 1: kind of way. Okay, Yeah, I expect that now, don't
Speaker 1: do doom. For four long years, had the number one box?
Speaker 1: Ask he was becoming the number one box? You had, Floyd? Yeah,
Speaker 1: when he like he he didn't really even know who
Speaker 1: he was at the time. He was developing as I was, man,
Speaker 1: and I would see you in the ring. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: I had never thought that relationship. I thought it was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was like the perfect relationship, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So the lasted four years, but what what was? It
Speaker 1: was just time to move on? Yeah. You know sometimes,
Speaker 1: like in any relationship, you know, you evolved and eventually
Speaker 1: you do things differently, right, So I think that's kind
Speaker 1: of what took place with me and the homie. But
Speaker 1: it's still look okay, because I heard you surrounded the gym.
Speaker 1: She like that some money has to be paid and
Speaker 1: money is hey that day? Is that truth in the
Speaker 1: name a little bit? Okay? So one of the one
Speaker 1: of the most interesting ventures I've ever heard of in
Speaker 1: hip hop. Oh it was like a two boo. It's
Speaker 1: like a two week room one that this was actually happening.
Speaker 1: You shug and and what what was happening was. It
Speaker 1: wasn't like you shooking earth or any three year y'all
Speaker 1: was on the down. Yeah, I was at this time.
Speaker 1: So if this would have actually merged, this would have
Speaker 1: been the biggest black environment we have ever. So you
Speaker 1: think there was somebody deliberately out to shut you out
Speaker 1: down And what was it y'all were doing? Trying to
Speaker 1: set up distribution? We had a meeting. Yeah, we wanted
Speaker 1: to create their own black owned distribute some girls. So
Speaker 1: we had a meeting of the mind met in l A.
Speaker 1: And it wasn't long after. I feel like the FEDS
Speaker 1: attack each of us, you know what I mean? That's
Speaker 1: deconspiracy from not only from a distribute some point of view.
Speaker 1: You know, they had their reasons, but definitely they you know,
Speaker 1: we all saw what happened to death Row. We saw
Speaker 1: how they attack murder In and you know they tried
Speaker 1: to kill me. So yeah, that was said like a
Speaker 1: d A agent or hit man or some ship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I called him a hit man because he got about
Speaker 1: eight to ten bodies, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: I couldn't think of a better name to call, uh
Speaker 1: shoot marker. Yeah, and they put them on you, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: on purpose. Goddamn you out here. Motherfucker's smelling like roses
Speaker 1: sucking again. So now they say that they would say
Speaker 1: they said that you had a pick farm on your
Speaker 1: your house. I've seen a series on Prime that they
Speaker 1: were just the mob would just feed people to the pigs.
Speaker 1: You know, they're telling a lot of lots. Do we
Speaker 1: have a rant? You know, it's about three hundreds some
Speaker 1: heads of cows and horses and ships like that. No pigs.
Speaker 1: That sounds scary. Tho, you got Jo, you know you
Speaker 1: got a big stick. We're we're pointing the guys. That's crazy.
Speaker 1: That's good. So I read scoff face saye work for work.
Speaker 1: He said, people want to be like Mike. I wanted
Speaker 1: to be like Jack. That's fucking hard. How do you
Speaker 1: how do you feel when you when you hear things
Speaker 1: like that? You know, I feel honored, man, I feel
Speaker 1: honored to you know, to inspire all of them that
Speaker 1: come after me, you know what I mean? Because one
Speaker 1: thing I never wanted my kids and nobody to do
Speaker 1: is have to hold the head down when my name
Speaker 1: is mentioned. So but want to Biby to hold his
Speaker 1: head up. You know, from observing me or being inspired
Speaker 1: by me is inspirational to me. It's a beautiful day.
Speaker 1: So at one point before you get off the face,
Speaker 1: we gotta talk about that. He's you know, it's crazy,
Speaker 1: I hate scar face to get some cheat questions and
Speaker 1: he was like, yo, he said, he said, jay child
Speaker 1: me he was coming down. I thought that was just
Speaker 1: dope that y'all still speak like that. That's my brother.
Speaker 1: That's really that's like, I just want to commend you
Speaker 1: to your face. Yeah, and I know it's been rough
Speaker 1: times between y'all. Everybody every brother's fight, but the fact
Speaker 1: that y'all can still talk thirty one years later, y'all
Speaker 1: still like I hate scarf face. And he was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: he told me he's coming. Was like, oh, ship, he's
Speaker 1: still talk to me. That's something that should be honor,
Speaker 1: you know, just the relationship, regardless to everything. I know
Speaker 1: you got business together, but I just want to honor that.
Speaker 1: To your face. Man, I said, I it's beautiful, Like
Speaker 1: I was touched by that, and I know I know Facing.
Speaker 1: You know, when Face was had the COVID show, I
Speaker 1: called Face every single day. Yeah, I just called him
Speaker 1: to check on him, like I didn't. I didn't care
Speaker 1: what time, I didn't care if I was bothering him
Speaker 1: face right, Face. But like getting back to that, I
Speaker 1: really respectation ship. I respect you know, thirty years but
Speaker 1: ship like me and you was like that, like if
Speaker 1: we know each other that long, like and we're still speaking.
Speaker 1: So when I see it, because I know it's abnormal
Speaker 1: for other people, you know what I'm saying, It's like
Speaker 1: everyone is in the snaking each other. Everyone is in
Speaker 1: there doing some some dumb ships. So when I see that,
Speaker 1: I definitely wanted to salute you to your face and
Speaker 1: Face is still he's still looking for a kidney donor, right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we gotta we gotta get We gotta get that for
Speaker 1: you out there. You gotta kidney and you know you
Speaker 1: hit math. I mean, you know what I mean. Some
Speaker 1: people just got like I don't know how to say that.
Speaker 1: You know, if you're a match, you guy it man,
Speaker 1: let's get let's get national treasure. And you still you
Speaker 1: do you call him scar faceing, you call up calling
Speaker 1: Brad sometimes call him face okay, cool cool cool cool
Speaker 1: because I see Willie um Wie D and he was
Speaker 1: calling them Brad one time throughout this whole interview through
Speaker 1: I was watching, you know, I was watching all these
Speaker 1: interviews about you guys, and he kept calling them Brad.
Speaker 1: I was like, who then is Brad? Some time, I
Speaker 1: told these lips in my mind that I want to
Speaker 1: say something real quick because when I was researching uh you,
Speaker 1: it brought me to flat TV right and on lad TV,
Speaker 1: lack TV. I feel like he disrespected hip hop, feel
Speaker 1: like disrespecting Louis Farra car. I feel like he didn't
Speaker 1: he didn't say sorry, So lad TV or anybody's watching this,
Speaker 1: I would let you, personally black to take every video
Speaker 1: that Nori is on your site and take it off.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I'm asking you that as as a favorite. Know.
Speaker 1: I could have called you, you know, on on the phone,
Speaker 1: but this is a public situation. This isn't a private situation.
Speaker 1: So this is your boy, and are signed that. I
Speaker 1: just I didn't want anything to do with that. Sorry, sorry,
Speaker 1: sorry Jack, Because you know I'm watching and Lord Jamal
Speaker 1: and Everybody's like, man like, if you disrespect the culture
Speaker 1: of hip hop, and you're not a part of the
Speaker 1: culture like you the best the best thing you should
Speaker 1: do is apologize. He so he just expect the lowist
Speaker 1: flower car. They asked him to apologize, and he said,
Speaker 1: I apologize to him if you come on my show.
Speaker 1: You don't dictate this situation, buddy. This is our culture.
Speaker 1: We dictate this motherfucker. So by me taking a stance,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take it. I don't got gonna do with
Speaker 1: this ship. But I would like for you to erase
Speaker 1: every video that I'm on on your side. And that's
Speaker 1: why I stand. Let's move back to this I that
Speaker 1: I was. Yeah, he expected the Louis flower car. He
Speaker 1: actually made up something. They checked him on it and said, look,
Speaker 1: this is what he said. He didn't say that, he
Speaker 1: false reported, he false something. Just say I'm sorry, Just
Speaker 1: say you're my bad. You know what I'm saying. You
Speaker 1: know you can enrich over this culture. But he he
Speaker 1: has young men go up there, and you know, I
Speaker 1: don't even want to keep going. I don't keep going
Speaker 1: on that. But let's say so now, respect, let's talk
Speaker 1: about the book. Respect. You rooting in two thousand and fourteen,
Speaker 1: No not that long ago. Okay, this book been out
Speaker 1: of two years. Okay, you wrote it, I'm saying you really,
Speaker 1: I probably wrote it a few months before it was released. Okay,
Speaker 1: So you know this book, the art and Science of Respect,
Speaker 1: Why my winds, my losses? Everything happened in between the
Speaker 1: art and science? Science science? Sound? Is man complicated? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So is that complicated the science of it? Or not? Not? Really? Okay,
Speaker 1: not really, it's not complicated because you know I lived
Speaker 1: it all, and you know I explained my explanations for
Speaker 1: everything I went through to because I wanted to leave
Speaker 1: up you know what I mean of a blueprint of
Speaker 1: how I made it, make it easier for the next generation.
Speaker 1: Now I heard it was a totally different version of this,
Speaker 1: and you decided not to do it because you felt
Speaker 1: like he was giving up too much. No, I had
Speaker 1: never heard that. Yeah, I'm showing me. Give me that
Speaker 1: question I'm doing. You know, the truth of the matter,
Speaker 1: all of it is not there, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I don't want to do a movie, so by yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's my about Julia Beverley as wether Yea who could
Speaker 1: play you in the movie? Good question? I need I
Speaker 1: need your help. I definitely want to help, but I
Speaker 1: thought it myself at one point and then I said, no,
Speaker 1: I need a better editor. Better. You need a real,
Speaker 1: real actor, like you need this Zell to lose twenty years.
Speaker 1: I can see that. I think this will killing because
Speaker 1: he was already Yeah, Michael Jordan, Oh yeah, he can
Speaker 1: do it now, he can be a comedian. Oh it's biscuit.
Speaker 1: He saw Dominican from h l Oh. Nah, I think
Speaker 1: I don't even know what you're talking about. Really, but
Speaker 1: oh no, I know you need a real actor. You
Speaker 1: don't need no comedian nigga, I don't know, Sam Coach.
Speaker 1: You need a guy who could cry, who can you
Speaker 1: know and do everything like you know, Julie, there has
Speaker 1: to be something already in the worlds I would imagine,
Speaker 1: especially after Strata Compton success. Yeah, but I don't the
Speaker 1: actor hadn't been picked. You know, that's a that's important. Stories. Yeah, stories,
Speaker 1: correct appreciate it all right, So, um, what was you
Speaker 1: What was your favorite like act you ever worked? Because
Speaker 1: I heard you say that you worked with a lot
Speaker 1: of artists that you didversitally like, yeah, business, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Business sometimes you know, And I said,
Speaker 1: that too, like open the mind of others that you
Speaker 1: don't have to like every you know, business is business.
Speaker 1: So yeah, a lot of them I didn't like personally,
Speaker 1: but you know a few of my scar faces one
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, that's the homie love Pimp C,
Speaker 1: Love Bundy. You know, those guys was exciting, and they
Speaker 1: wouldn't really signed to you. They were signed a job. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then you signed them as solo artists. Yeah, signed
Speaker 1: them at so Lo artists. When when Pimp C got
Speaker 1: locked up and Job didn't want to allow Bun to
Speaker 1: make a living really on a solo perspective and jobs
Speaker 1: even taking a free PIMPC campaign away from them. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so I convinced him to to let me put Bun
Speaker 1: out on a solo too. Yeah. And then and then,
Speaker 1: so what was that I heard the day PEPSI came out?
Speaker 1: You brought them to nothing brain go when you brought
Speaker 1: them too? Yeah, poem, Sorry, man, I brought you home
Speaker 1: in the limo. Man, I'm sorry, he went his phone.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Well, yeah, how was that? Because I could
Speaker 1: tell Pipsy was popping. Oh yeah, pimp C. I kind
Speaker 1: of called him the Southern tupop you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: I can see that. Yeah, I can see that. You
Speaker 1: know he was, he was off the chain. So he
Speaker 1: and I, you know why it was locked up with,
Speaker 1: have conversations on that day over release. So you know,
Speaker 1: I just kept my word once again, you know when
Speaker 1: he got bam set it all one thing that PEPSI
Speaker 1: sucked me up. To this day, I still can't get
Speaker 1: over with this. He said, you Atlanta, dudes, ain't even
Speaker 1: the South. It's not even It's the same time as
Speaker 1: old as East Coast. And to this day I would
Speaker 1: throw Miami in there. I can't get that out of
Speaker 1: my head. So do you think PEPSI was doing that
Speaker 1: on purpose or he was just he was just on
Speaker 1: one that day, you know, I think he was talking
Speaker 1: about the time, you know what, but them in the time,
Speaker 1: the Atlanta, Miami, New York on the same you know time.
Speaker 1: So yeah, So did you think he thought that just Texas.
Speaker 1: I've never I've never got over that. I'm never like,
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, that's right, just to a certain extent.
Speaker 1: Most of the South is on the East coast. Wow
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, but yeah, Viginia, because Texas is a huge
Speaker 1: as motherfucker State obviously said Virginia. As we speak about Virginia,
Speaker 1: you edited, I said edited, you ended the beef between Drake.
Speaker 1: I'm pushing I guess I guess you could say that
Speaker 1: because now, okay, that hasn't since it was there a
Speaker 1: phone call that happened. Well, I had an opportunity to
Speaker 1: speak with Kanye, you know, and of course because we
Speaker 1: heard Drake was saying he smashed Kim on it, that's
Speaker 1: what we heard. To the great bodies, what we heard.
Speaker 1: We don't know what we heard. I don't know we
Speaker 1: heard when we heard. We don't know. I don't know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I don't know, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know. But I'm sorry because you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: That didn't you know that that was something didn't make
Speaker 1: sense for us, right, and I were moving use some
Speaker 1: moments ship, right, So we figured out how to circumvent
Speaker 1: that and keep it moving. Because I'm gonna be honest,
Speaker 1: that takes a lot of restraint. It takes a lot
Speaker 1: of discipline because you know, I don't fun with the
Speaker 1: social media like that I post or whatever, but I don't.
Speaker 1: But there's people who funk with that. And if you
Speaker 1: lost on social media sometimes you're losing life. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: I could imagine that week. Did you called Drake and
Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, we're not gonna respond? Yeah, whoop?
Speaker 1: How hard do you think it was? Because some people
Speaker 1: are saying that that that record couldn't existed because if
Speaker 1: it existed, they don't care about Push your Teeth, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. If it existed, they would just
Speaker 1: drop drop it and just end Push your Teeth and
Speaker 1: and Kanye if it existed. But then some people was like, yo,
Speaker 1: why didn't he respond? So what was that week like?
Speaker 1: Because I'm sure people was hitting you on on that
Speaker 1: as well. You know, that was testament of the respect
Speaker 1: that he had for me, because he didn't He wasn't
Speaker 1: trying to hear that ship. Really he wanted to drop. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean you know how that is, and they can
Speaker 1: hit you you want to, So to me, that was
Speaker 1: a testament of the respect he had for me, and
Speaker 1: and I had to like, really, you know, let him know, Okay,
Speaker 1: I really mean this. You know what I mean? This
Speaker 1: don't make sense. And when we put it on the scale,
Speaker 1: it didn't make sense. It was as simple. It's kind
Speaker 1: of like, um, when Jay overdid it with nas with
Speaker 1: that second record, and he went to certain places about
Speaker 1: family and things like that. It kind of made him
Speaker 1: lose to be by default because of him bringing in
Speaker 1: other family members of him doing that. Is that how
Speaker 1: you felt with well and all losses some losses a win. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true. You know what I mean. It depends on
Speaker 1: your thinking ability where where all of that is concerned.
Speaker 1: And we you know, we couldn't get caught up in that.
Speaker 1: It was a moment, you know what I'm mean, We
Speaker 1: big pitching thinging, so we had to keep it moving.
Speaker 1: It makes it much. I know you talked about this
Speaker 1: a lot, but maybe for our audience and how how
Speaker 1: did that connection happen? You guys in Drake So yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, I know, but I just yeah, but you
Speaker 1: might not like, right, No, my son jas Prince broke
Speaker 1: me Drake and uh you know young Rake, Yeah, you
Speaker 1: was boxing at the time. I didn't even like him,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I didn't like it. I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: what do you this stude singing? Year He like, trust
Speaker 1: me on this one, daddy, you know the man he buzzing.
Speaker 1: So I had taught him since he was like this
Speaker 1: then parts of a buzz and rap a lot in
Speaker 1: all the meetings, and I'm calling around the world marketing meets.
Speaker 1: What's buzzing? What's buzzing? So you know, and I tell
Speaker 1: everybody my eel stood up like a German schefferd when
Speaker 1: he said he's buzz buzz right, I said, away from Canada.
Speaker 1: My ears went down. I called Canada, right, call the coach,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. They confirmed the truth, and
Speaker 1: I'm like flyting home in As. When we flew him in,
Speaker 1: Wayne was in and bad rest and at that time
Speaker 1: you didn't know how he looked at less. So he
Speaker 1: walked to the door. He's like, I'll be sure that's
Speaker 1: what you thought. I didn't your brother, So why isn't
Speaker 1: it a wrap a lot of situation? Was it because
Speaker 1: you're in the boxing? Yeah? I had kind of you know,
Speaker 1: moved on and my son was on tour with Little Wayne, right,
Speaker 1: So I told him, I said, man, I don't want
Speaker 1: you coming home. You have to just get puss it
Speaker 1: and coming home, bro, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, I told him how to go to Little
Speaker 1: Wayne and tell him what you want to start a
Speaker 1: rocket labor want him to be a partner fifty fifty Wayne,
Speaker 1: you know, been on the opportunity. And from there, I'm like,
Speaker 1: who your first artist? So he said Drake. So bam,
Speaker 1: that's how it all came from this. I say, take
Speaker 1: Drake on the road with you and the little Wayne
Speaker 1: to put his arm around and over the stage. You're
Speaker 1: telling me your mon introduced Drake to Wayne. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: but your money. Yeah. Oh, y'all didn't know that. I
Speaker 1: thought this is what I thought. Yeah, I thought Drake
Speaker 1: and Wayne had a relationship, and then I think I
Speaker 1: thought Jazz came in after. I didn't know Jazz is
Speaker 1: connecting the role. That's what is arguable. Bro. Holy okay,
Speaker 1: Now Wayne, Wayne does the business. But we all know
Speaker 1: Wayne is an artist, right. We all know Wayne as
Speaker 1: an artist. We all know that when it comes down
Speaker 1: to the business, business and the big eating, he might
Speaker 1: not even beat it. Yeah, so it gets the bird man, right,
Speaker 1: bird Man makes all this money off off of Drake
Speaker 1: and then there's money old tip to your son. How
Speaker 1: does how does that not get worked out? Well? It
Speaker 1: gout worked out, you know what I mean. That's that's
Speaker 1: it's a done deal. Not everything that's has been done,
Speaker 1: but it was a process, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And I think it was a process because of the
Speaker 1: money they took before a drink came to the table,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. They got hell of advance
Speaker 1: cash money or young money, cash money because young money
Speaker 1: is y'all coming now, Yeah, but young money is cash
Speaker 1: money when it when it came to that business thing,
Speaker 1: you know, And we got caught up in the mix
Speaker 1: of that because they had taken so much until you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, stayed looking at it like I'm
Speaker 1: all right, we got come pay. They they don't. They
Speaker 1: don't have it. And it's not the same discrepancy that
Speaker 1: y'all had that Wayne was having at the time of
Speaker 1: cash money as well. I don't really I don't really know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but yeah, because that's that's the thing. It is, like
Speaker 1: this interviews, this documents of Baby saluting you. So I
Speaker 1: would imagine that's the automatic thing to do, is know
Speaker 1: that that's that's you with gods, even though your son
Speaker 1: is his own entity, you know what I'm saying. So, um,
Speaker 1: I always was curious about that. I know, you just
Speaker 1: said you worked it out here, you know, like Baby
Speaker 1: Slim Master, p Tony Draper, all these guys like my students,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So that's one of the
Speaker 1: reasons I wanted my son to do something with Little Wayne,
Speaker 1: because you know, I trusted the Homers in that situation. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, once again, I think you know a lot
Speaker 1: of times as artists and recollect that we get that
Speaker 1: paper that and thinking that dough that's gonna perform the
Speaker 1: same way on the next album or whatnot, and ship
Speaker 1: don't happen the same damb Devil was advocate. Do you
Speaker 1: think that Birdman thought that it was Drake wo Old
Speaker 1: your son and not him. I'm asking, like, just being
Speaker 1: that was I'm just being that was advocate. You know.
Speaker 1: I made a real clear to him, okay that we
Speaker 1: need to have ours you know what I mean. We're
Speaker 1: gonna be no negotiating and dialogue and whenever. Whenever was concerned.
Speaker 1: And like I said, it took a process and we
Speaker 1: got ours. Got that makes so man, this is a
Speaker 1: lot bear Is that that Si you were having the
Speaker 1: weirdest Brazilian sililia Resilien fucking Carnegie all this is like
Speaker 1: some crazy but all right cool boom. At one point
Speaker 1: it felt like you and Drake the it fell out
Speaker 1: was was was that like that new artist because you know,
Speaker 1: at one point I was an artist too. Um, we
Speaker 1: started to think we did it on our own, and
Speaker 1: because because you know you're going platinum, you you know,
Speaker 1: we all we just needed we have done with that
Speaker 1: with Drake particularly, No, I can't think we had at
Speaker 1: a moment okay like that, well we fell out, okay,
Speaker 1: but I have experienced that with all Okay, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: shouldn't happen like when you put them on and then
Speaker 1: they just act like they bought your sneakers on their own. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I hadn't really experienced that with him. Okay, I hope
Speaker 1: they're not experist, but yeah, that thought I acted this earlier.
Speaker 1: But I think, um, I got cut off herself off.
Speaker 1: I think, um, what what was your favorite moments? Like, um, um,
Speaker 1: what artists? What was one artist that like when they
Speaker 1: said come to the studio, he was like, fucking I
Speaker 1: dropped everything and I went to the studio for them. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, one of my favorite moments wasn't about the
Speaker 1: studio was but it was about respect where the South
Speaker 1: was concerned. And it was with the with the record
Speaker 1: mind playing tricks, you know what I mean? Because it
Speaker 1: was like a lone hustle man to try and get
Speaker 1: respect where radio was concerned with doors slammed in our
Speaker 1: face over and over again. And finally to sit back
Speaker 1: and witness everybody embraced that song. You know, cityboy, we
Speaker 1: didn't have any of that social media, right, so we
Speaker 1: hit state by state, city by city and everybody embrace it.
Speaker 1: That was a beautiful filling. But I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: And that's like the unofficial Halloween record every year, the
Speaker 1: Halloween unless you feel here that like I can't even
Speaker 1: get into it, Like I'm not putting on the costs
Speaker 1: and women. That's my Halloween shirt right there. Show, So
Speaker 1: damn is good to be against. Yeah, you rapped on that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: wrapped on that. It was a rapper wrapper. You know,
Speaker 1: I was using that about personal You was talking about
Speaker 1: going to the White House. Yeah, what was you want
Speaker 1: to rapper? At my point, I mean, I don't call
Speaker 1: myself a rapper, but I spit on that. Okay. I
Speaker 1: always wanted to do in the office and I hear
Speaker 1: that job. Yeah, And I wrote what's wick firsts on
Speaker 1: that and made it right? What's who you can't do?
Speaker 1: That's that's that's that's a legendary wreck. Now I want
Speaker 1: to say something for you, uh, for tr for for
Speaker 1: for you, for everybody from the South that don't think
Speaker 1: New York people will ever respect the South or don't
Speaker 1: ever respect your toth I am Warren and raised New
Speaker 1: York City. I've lived in the South for fourteen years.
Speaker 1: But if you cut me, I'm leading New York City. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can't even get the accent. I'm trying to get
Speaker 1: your accident work. It won't even work. We respect your South.
Speaker 1: I think that y'all was taking a few bad apples
Speaker 1: and judge the whole New York about that. And that's
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to tell y'all, Like I love the South.
Speaker 1: A person that don't love the South has never been
Speaker 1: to the South. That's all You're arguing with people who
Speaker 1: have never left ninety third Street. Yeah, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm I'm saying. So if you want to talk to
Speaker 1: a person that never left n third that's all he
Speaker 1: knows in life's name thirsty. And there's a lot of
Speaker 1: New York dudes out there, But people like me, Bums,
Speaker 1: the Romes, fact Joe, who made a great living in
Speaker 1: the South. We respect usel, I think you're talking as
Speaker 1: an artist, and you can tell me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: I think the industry was a big. One of the
Speaker 1: first questions I hit y'all, Lemagne, and one of the
Speaker 1: first questions he hit me is, does Jay Press ever
Speaker 1: think that New York will respect the New York rappers
Speaker 1: will respect the South? And I said, I didn't want
Speaker 1: to ask that, man, but I'm asking with the question.
Speaker 1: I answer with the answer because like some of the
Speaker 1: greatest times I've ever had as me going to Texas
Speaker 1: and me calling some of young people, so they laying
Speaker 1: it out for me, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: I just feel like that's what it is. Like when
Speaker 1: T I said T I said it the other day too.
Speaker 1: He's like, because you know, New York didn't want respect this,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, that's just so false. You're taking it's
Speaker 1: ten people in the room, You're talking about the one
Speaker 1: entire industry that was picked up against the South and
Speaker 1: even the West at one point. I don't think it
Speaker 1: was that. I think that it was just so new
Speaker 1: at the time to remember it was new like we
Speaker 1: was used to x Clan, we was used to and
Speaker 1: then when we was when we heard in w and
Speaker 1: when we heard West Coast, it was about you know,
Speaker 1: but think about what you think about this. And again
Speaker 1: if i'm if you got a different perspective, please let
Speaker 1: us know. I'm saying, if the exects are born and
Speaker 1: raising New York and the artists are being then the
Speaker 1: A and rs are born and raising in New York,
Speaker 1: then that's the us to keep being signed to the labels,
Speaker 1: keep being put out, keeping programmed. They're not. They gotta
Speaker 1: understanding the South. That's why what happens is the West
Speaker 1: Coast roles, but roles and created basically their own industry. This,
Speaker 1: this is it. This is the way I feel about that.
Speaker 1: This is the deep part. Like I never felt that way.
Speaker 1: I never feel like the whole New York didn't, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I got like friends from New
Speaker 1: York that I know better what that's concerned. So it
Speaker 1: was a few you know what I mean, And that's
Speaker 1: the way it was. But I think it's everdent today.
Speaker 1: You know how New York I feel about South because
Speaker 1: a lot of New Yorkers, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: I know so much gold yea change. We we never
Speaker 1: had what you called grills. We had cats which you
Speaker 1: take out the full, we take it out, you can
Speaker 1: take it out. Yeah yeah, and we have friends. But
Speaker 1: that all solid ship, that's all sounds. That's right there,
Speaker 1: right there, you know the side. I know a lot.
Speaker 1: That's my side by side. I got four waters with bills.
Speaker 1: My son requested his whole ship and he looked like juvenile. Here,
Speaker 1: I'm like, what the mill he's raising? Okay? And you
Speaker 1: know that that goes so deep because you know a
Speaker 1: lot of you know, New York, because your mother's grandmother.
Speaker 1: That's the reason why I kind of like I want
Speaker 1: to start this plight of New York. New York people
Speaker 1: sat in the balance because I get it. Back then,
Speaker 1: you know, we didn't have Instagram. We didn't have so
Speaker 1: if you got a bad attitude for one New Yorker,
Speaker 1: you described the whole New York as as such. But man,
Speaker 1: I'm in New York. You don't have to compare it
Speaker 1: to I compare it to um people from London and
Speaker 1: they go to the States one time and they go
Speaker 1: to Seattle, and because you know have States, isn't the States.
Speaker 1: That's how Seattle wants on that Wednesday, motherfucker that's not
Speaker 1: how everything is. Don't judge this, judges And they're like,
Speaker 1: because you never state, So I'm like, no, you don't
Speaker 1: know the states. So I'm doing, like what the people
Speaker 1: in Texas ain't doing. What the people doing in Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: People in Brooklyn ain't doing, but they're just labor that
Speaker 1: one experience is that one town that's y'all and they
Speaker 1: just say the states. And that's how I feel like.
Speaker 1: I feel like the South to a certain of steps
Speaker 1: still kind of can plains about how New York will
Speaker 1: show them love or or that, and I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: fuckingplaining about the people that don't show love, which you
Speaker 1: should be shown the love to people who show Yeah.
Speaker 1: Because and like you said, Jake Press, I love this
Speaker 1: and just love the statement from you. I've been watching
Speaker 1: you for a week. She's just everything about you. He said,
Speaker 1: he feels like the West Coast it's a piece of bread,
Speaker 1: and the East Coast it's the other piece of brand.
Speaker 1: You can't have a sandwich without of the South at
Speaker 1: the meat in the middle, holding on trans and Tedious
Speaker 1: looked at that, just thinking that that was a real
Speaker 1: hard course. How did you think of that? Ana? Me
Speaker 1: and that ship just hard dog with it is. I
Speaker 1: couldn't argue with try to Mama, your dad and your foundation.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, your root. We come here
Speaker 1: because you know why what it is like. We don't
Speaker 1: get to choose where we're from, so we all love it.
Speaker 1: But it's always falls from where we're from too. But
Speaker 1: we don't We don't never We don't never say the floors.
Speaker 1: We don't never say, Yo, you know, New York is
Speaker 1: the best city in the world. We got rats. We
Speaker 1: don't say that. We don't say the New York's the
Speaker 1: best city in the world, but the Manhattan apartment man
Speaker 1: has a couple of roaches. We don't say that. We
Speaker 1: just say the good thing. So I just want to
Speaker 1: be the person to say, man, please, we gotta change
Speaker 1: that narrative because we're all one. We should be all
Speaker 1: on the same motherfucker game. I said, already said it
Speaker 1: got there a game. But um, I haven't been watching
Speaker 1: the versus battles. Uh. I saw one of them. I
Speaker 1: don't remember which one it was. You know, I'm hearing
Speaker 1: him about t I okay, t I and g j okay.
Speaker 1: You know I gotta know that I wouldn't go get.
Speaker 1: But you've been from the southeast being your protege somewhat
Speaker 1: to speak, because I'm another problem. When I think of
Speaker 1: the kick of the South, I think of you. T
Speaker 1: I claims to kick of the South. Yeah, but I
Speaker 1: think of you. I know that's no dispecting my man.
Speaker 1: But what do you think of when you say t
Speaker 1: I against cheesy man? That's uh interesting blend you know,
Speaker 1: but Tia my homie, Jesus my homie too. And I'm
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna let their work speak for us exactly. Cream. Okay,
Speaker 1: who do you think Drake could do? A versus way?
Speaker 1: M Now, let me say this about Drake. I think
Speaker 1: he wanted the best I ever heard. Okay, you know
Speaker 1: that's that's a lot coming from you. And you don't
Speaker 1: even like when the first matter. Remember I mean when
Speaker 1: it comes to hits. Okay, yeah, I seen them all
Speaker 1: through hits like, yeah, nobody didn't nobody you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Singing and rapping? Yeah, I meant different ship
Speaker 1: got Spanish, I got the Spanish to me. I'm telling
Speaker 1: you on a whole different frequency. I ain't saw no ship. Like,
Speaker 1: what do you do? What are you saying here? J prince.
Speaker 1: There's nobody could battle, so who bends who would be
Speaker 1: the best considered the best outside of the Drake Little
Speaker 1: Wayne Jay z Okay, I don't think Jay leaving his house.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's coming out first. I mean if
Speaker 1: he if he would like it, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: they're on the same team. Now. I'm gonna kick you
Speaker 1: out the room. For a second. That was not a
Speaker 1: good I thought, you know what up? I thought about
Speaker 1: it for a second. I say, you know, whoever you
Speaker 1: put it from me gonna hold his zone. You know
Speaker 1: what's up with like Draker? Actually the battle to motherfucker,
Speaker 1: lets say bout himself. He can battle to motherfucker. He
Speaker 1: can battle in you Chris Brown or Trey songs with
Speaker 1: just R and B do's mo RMB against y'all and
Speaker 1: then I'm battling. I gotta be careful. I don't know
Speaker 1: who else is battling. But he could battle in the
Speaker 1: hip hop. What you think he did? That could happen
Speaker 1: now because nobody wants to lose two against one, like
Speaker 1: it's two much going hip Yeah, he can't battle nobody
Speaker 1: another genre. Speaking about of Michael Jackson, Michael jacks that's
Speaker 1: up in the head. Yeah you ever met Michael Jaglon No,
Speaker 1: I never meant Mike. I mean, yeah, she smells like peaches.
Speaker 1: You don't just have the jetted jack always. We always
Speaker 1: got Jetty. We love you get it that as s
Speaker 1: Authory Soth, how was this? I'm seriously smell like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, was ready? How did Janet Jackson experience? I
Speaker 1: met Janet one time, the Jackson Experience. I meet listen.
Speaker 1: I was using the studio. She was in the next studio.
Speaker 1: So she's so much for superstars. She made everybody leave
Speaker 1: the studio before she walked in, just to walk right
Speaker 1: past us. And no one had just told director, do
Speaker 1: not look at her eyes? What the fun is going on? After?
Speaker 1: About Chris Lady with Chris because light out there. I
Speaker 1: made six thousand all this on the chesters. They can
Speaker 1: give the outside. They're kicking us out. That's a penny
Speaker 1: walking through penny some good time to Chris, Like, if
Speaker 1: you're gonna get it that, let's talk about the Janets girl.
Speaker 1: What happened when she when she it was it was
Speaker 1: a pass by introductions, Okay, no special, just this a
Speaker 1: little back little it was did you say how did
Speaker 1: you get on the show introduction? You know? And oh
Speaker 1: god damn it, lots of going on. I've never been
Speaker 1: a pagan may bars. Okay, that's Janet, That's yeah, that's
Speaker 1: challenge Jane got. Damn holy holy Malcamore. I think that's
Speaker 1: who she's with them. Who's the most famous person that
Speaker 1: you met? And they knew who you was and they
Speaker 1: that sucked you up? Hm? My mother, I didn't even
Speaker 1: thinking that one. I don't do that. I didn't even
Speaker 1: dig it that one. So um ah, what's something happens
Speaker 1: in hip hop? For lack of a better term, You're
Speaker 1: like the farercon for lack of a better term, like
Speaker 1: the p ain't never heard the peacemaker. What I mean
Speaker 1: by that is you're the verses everyone could go to.
Speaker 1: Like my problem is every time I've ever went to Houston, Texas,
Speaker 1: I'm always called checked in prior. Yeah, so I'll say, yo, listen.
Speaker 1: You know I may not of people direct with you,
Speaker 1: but I'll be like, yo, I'm gonna be in the area.
Speaker 1: I think the problem is a lot of people call
Speaker 1: you after the problem curves. Yeah, am I accurate? Or
Speaker 1: a whole lot? You know what I mean? But I
Speaker 1: don't accept everybody calls, you know what I mean? They
Speaker 1: have to be family related some way. Okay, Yeah, so
Speaker 1: recently U nb a young boy. Yeah, I've seen a
Speaker 1: blog I believe are you're sitting there and you had
Speaker 1: the young boys jury. These guys, these guys came. So
Speaker 1: how does this happen? Because I don't understand what do
Speaker 1: they do? That is this? You're a personal line? You
Speaker 1: got like at the rap game? Wrong? Well over this
Speaker 1: this is like when you really street rooted, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, when you like really street rooted, you
Speaker 1: could make calls and uh, people that respect you. You know,
Speaker 1: I find that ship it but give you information that's
Speaker 1: needed to you know what I mean to bring the
Speaker 1: results for certain ship. Right. So it's it's it's just
Speaker 1: another form of respect and layerty. Listen, lawyer and lawyers
Speaker 1: got there. Let's take a shot of lawyer. See I'm
Speaker 1: taking a shot, but you got damn it. I don't
Speaker 1: take a shot of that. That's right, it's I'm I'm
Speaker 1: a white drinker. Can you open this up for me? Lee?
Speaker 1: It's very true. We need a bottle girl. That's just
Speaker 1: how the law. We need a girl. I've told my wife,
Speaker 1: this is how bad it is. I'm told my wife,
Speaker 1: I said, listen, we need a bottle, girl. You gotta
Speaker 1: help us get one being can't have it from the
Speaker 1: era where the labels And this is you guys starting
Speaker 1: this movement of really pushing all these records locally and
Speaker 1: state level, on a local city level. What do you
Speaker 1: think the difference now? Do you do you see a
Speaker 1: positive in the streaming error today versus that error? I
Speaker 1: mean I think, yeah, I think it is it is,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And I think, uh, like,
Speaker 1: I'm a positive thinker, So I don't like going back
Speaker 1: to ship that don't exist. I think what exists right
Speaker 1: now it's perfect for the hustlers to take advantage of,
Speaker 1: you know, the opportunity that exists right now, and it's beautiful.
Speaker 1: Do you think these young boys even need to recolla
Speaker 1: at this point? Uh? I always think it's a good
Speaker 1: thing to control your destiny, you know what I mean? So, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's your ship. So I don't I don't see a
Speaker 1: problem with submitting to anybody never, but man, I never
Speaker 1: I never had that mentality where I wanted in any
Speaker 1: other way. Yeah, So, um, was the getting boys your
Speaker 1: first success. Uh, well I had a lot of success.
Speaker 1: Why uh, I would say so yeah, okay, So how
Speaker 1: is that because it's these three people who didn't know
Speaker 1: each other obviously, from different parts of the state to
Speaker 1: the parts of the city, and you get them together
Speaker 1: and it works. Yeah, it's all the praise going to
Speaker 1: you as all the praise going to the artists, and
Speaker 1: they've been the benefits. Yeah, never never eye and we
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, we we we've done everything together.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I wouldn't I wouldn't there,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, take the credit, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Yeah, we was able to deal with
Speaker 1: all the challenges, all the trials and tribulations and conquer
Speaker 1: you know, all of that ship and you know be
Speaker 1: or what we built. We're taking the shot of this
Speaker 1: motherfucking loyalty with you. God damn it still man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like that, like watching that. Like it together. Baby.
Speaker 1: So so being an executive, how hard is it sometimes
Speaker 1: when the artist because you know, it looks good when
Speaker 1: the artist hangs out with you. And has ever been
Speaker 1: a time where he was burning so much money on
Speaker 1: this artist and he wasn't making you money? I mean
Speaker 1: that goes along with the with the game. You know,
Speaker 1: everybody's not gonna win, so you control that though calculate
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You mean the artist does no. No,
Speaker 1: You as an executive, you control that the wind or
Speaker 1: you control how much money you're gonna burn, you know,
Speaker 1: being a being a good entrepreneur, you don't want to
Speaker 1: go over board where that ship. But that ship is concerned, right,
Speaker 1: It's it's not about feelings and emotions in this game.
Speaker 1: The business is business. So you have to be able
Speaker 1: to separate the two and keep that ship moving. Have
Speaker 1: you ever had to tell the person you're man, it's
Speaker 1: not working out and the ship no problem with that man.
Speaker 1: You know, that's that's part of the game. If not,
Speaker 1: you'll be broke. Yeah, because you know most artists they come,
Speaker 1: they leave a record label, they make this records and
Speaker 1: you know they happens. Ever been an artist that did
Speaker 1: that to you? I ain't really heard about it. Now
Speaker 1: I think she's here. I'm just all over the the
Speaker 1: the world with my questions. But what is the connection
Speaker 1: with you and Julia oh Man? Julia go Away back magazine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, probably before Olson, you know, murder Julie Julie
Speaker 1: is uh. Julie always been a hustler in her own way,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And that that she built
Speaker 1: she had nobody helping her. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: She stood on man, believe in herself and I respect
Speaker 1: you know, all creative minds. I don't give a damn
Speaker 1: where it comes from, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 1: just you know, game, respect, game contemn. So she she
Speaker 1: earned my respect by the thing she done. And even
Speaker 1: up until this day, you know what I mean, she
Speaker 1: still got that work as she still did with master P.
Speaker 1: They was arguing slightly. I like, I like your ground.
Speaker 1: I like it. I liked it. Have you ever had
Speaker 1: an idea that? Because I mean, honestly, um um Jake,
Speaker 1: when I read that she was twenty two years over
Speaker 1: the cart, or maybe even younger than that, that tells
Speaker 1: me off top you you think different, Like I really thought,
Speaker 1: I'm forty three years old. I really thought, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know anybody wants a car? Car? It was
Speaker 1: that even your first business? No, I don't think that
Speaker 1: was my first business. I always thought, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, he always had a different you know, from
Speaker 1: eight years old. You know what I mean, I was
Speaker 1: on some different ship. But then then a lot of
Speaker 1: the people that was older than me and hanging with me,
Speaker 1: you know I was. I was just on a different
Speaker 1: frequency that that come from a place from the creator,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I didn't, I didn't do nothing.
Speaker 1: That just was a blessing. Not your brother's name was sure,
Speaker 1: rapp a Lot. That's where you got rap a Lot? Right?
Speaker 1: Is he home? Because I thought it was twenty years ago? Right?
Speaker 1: You know, my brother done twenty some years and he
Speaker 1: got out and he went back. I think get doing
Speaker 1: another thirteen just you know, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But it's two things we get every day we wake up, right,
Speaker 1: a chance and a choice, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And the choices that he may after he get his chance,
Speaker 1: that's on him. He had to live with that because
Speaker 1: I know he like, man, that's my name, as I though,
Speaker 1: like they were living in your name rather like God.
Speaker 1: So did you understand how instrumental rap a Lot was?
Speaker 1: Like you know, to this day, anytime somebody say anything independent,
Speaker 1: they say, man, you're gonna do it? Like how rap
Speaker 1: a Lot doing? Like, do you realize how much you
Speaker 1: actually mean to the game? Um? You know, I think
Speaker 1: about the respect. That's uh, that's giving it something you
Speaker 1: can't buy it, right, you know, you can't buy respecting
Speaker 1: lawyer to So you know when I when I received that,
Speaker 1: I I think about it, But back then I wasn't
Speaker 1: thinking about none of that ship. Yeah, I want you to.
Speaker 1: I want you to really really like that, you really
Speaker 1: respected out it, but not just on some you know,
Speaker 1: street guard ship, on some businessman ship, like on some
Speaker 1: businessman ship like that was we never we had never
Speaker 1: We thought we thought that was a big gas conglomerate
Speaker 1: in Texas and y'all had like white money behind y'all.
Speaker 1: We had no idea that it was you there was
Speaker 1: this was your money, this was you your dream. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's fucking crazy, man. Let's basal noise that I was
Speaker 1: taking a little shot at this motherfucking layalty. We talked
Speaker 1: about y'all being sugar and her getting together. But going
Speaker 1: further back, was it ever a time that you and
Speaker 1: Easy and Luke thought of getting together and doing something? Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: Luke was there when I started. You know what I mean, Luke,
Speaker 1: I'm right here in Miami right now. Look, we came
Speaker 1: to Miami and kicked it with Luke. So Luke. Luke
Speaker 1: was one that was there, you know in the beginning.
Speaker 1: He was also independent as well. Yeah, so independent. Matter
Speaker 1: of fact, me and Luke really laid out the blueprint
Speaker 1: of this independent ship. You know, big up to all
Speaker 1: the Homers everywhere, Eastern coast, everywhere. But they wasn't doing
Speaker 1: is independent ship. Yeah, he's because he was being artist. Y'all,
Speaker 1: was building motherfucker and they were speak up to Russell
Speaker 1: and all of them, but production deals, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, they were gonna production deal. We were taking
Speaker 1: our hard earned doing everything because we didn't have access
Speaker 1: to warn of brothers and all them people, all the buildings,
Speaker 1: y'all was able to go in. But did you try
Speaker 1: or you you just said I tried and they they
Speaker 1: told me for me, you know what I mean. Just
Speaker 1: at the time, you know, underground music was disrespectful what
Speaker 1: they saying, like, you guys are too South, did y'all?
Speaker 1: And they were saying the ship too hard. You know,
Speaker 1: my name is putting out heavy melt on. You know,
Speaker 1: they were doing everything you know in the other world.
Speaker 1: But y'all can't do that. I can't say that. You know,
Speaker 1: we've done a song let the hope be a whole.
Speaker 1: And they didn't like that. You know, you shouldn't speak
Speaker 1: on letting the whope be a whole? Did you think
Speaker 1: about that? I need to music now. This is just
Speaker 1: they don't even want to make love no more. Just
Speaker 1: what I got to do. Look, damn, it's a kid.
Speaker 1: I don't like you. It would be this bad. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't consider it bad. It's some different ships that
Speaker 1: come on, man, let's get with that, James. It's different.
Speaker 1: It's different ship you think about. I think about it
Speaker 1: though in the Motown era and wefferent ship like that
Speaker 1: when they was calling that ship bad. And it's just
Speaker 1: a different ship. And that's gonna continue to happen, right
Speaker 1: There's gonna be some more different ship after what you're
Speaker 1: here right now. It's very It's even in the Golden Area.
Speaker 1: It was fucked up ship in the Golden Area. There
Speaker 1: was a lot to us, but to somebody else they
Speaker 1: didn't say one one latest rag. They'd be another Latest Riches.
Speaker 1: That's not the truth. God damnit taking the shot at
Speaker 1: this motherfucking Lloyds. He got damnit solo Sole telling people,
Speaker 1: come on, we're getting party. Cut you a check. I'm wetting.
Speaker 1: So what was your first time you met with j
Speaker 1: Jack jay Z jay Z? Uh damn? Let me think, man,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't even remember the first time I
Speaker 1: met with jay Z. Can't tell us a good thing? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I tell you all interesting story. I don't I don't
Speaker 1: think JR. Man, I don't leave my n you know.
Speaker 1: You know jay Z. Then was they were signing with Praude.
Speaker 1: A lot of people went in there with Praude, got left, right.
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of people done a lot of
Speaker 1: ship that I've done. So you was that Priority first,
Speaker 1: mean and rightfully? So it was a good thing, right,
Speaker 1: So we'll get on boys. Yeah, okay, because gett boys,
Speaker 1: all of my ship right before Ruthless was over there,
Speaker 1: before all of that ship. Jesus So, so Jadam wanted
Speaker 1: a song with scar Face, right, and they convinced somebody
Speaker 1: from Priority to go directly to scar Face without communicating
Speaker 1: with me. That doesn't happen. I mean, that's not the problem.
Speaker 1: Way okay, okay. So so the guy when he got
Speaker 1: to the airport and hearston, I got calls that he
Speaker 1: was in the airport, right, I mean, imagine that ship.
Speaker 1: I like that no ship when you land, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, because it's that deep, right, So the
Speaker 1: Instagram back that, ye, none of that probably was contacting you,
Speaker 1: but I don't kind of communication you. So A long
Speaker 1: story short, A long story short, he pursued his situation
Speaker 1: right and uh he was in a rich carse and
Speaker 1: from what I hear, and uh, it didn't go way
Speaker 1: up on because he didn't do ship protocol wise. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's all I want to say about. Okay, I don't
Speaker 1: even know what happened, just that, so yeah, show what
Speaker 1: we're down. We met in directly without meeting. Oh and
Speaker 1: then we met, right if you feel me, I kind
Speaker 1: of yeah, I don't know what we're talking about people,
Speaker 1: but sometimes you have to leave it like there. Okay,
Speaker 1: it like that. So so you met Big although you
Speaker 1: did meet because there's also a story that you turned
Speaker 1: your tok box around like Big died, Yeah, and you
Speaker 1: went and spoke I think called puppy and you smoke
Speaker 1: the Big on his tok box or something like that.
Speaker 1: But you know what it was actually before he died,
Speaker 1: meant yeah it was then no, no, in the night
Speaker 1: it was it was actually probably a week or two. Okay,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I'm training a bus and
Speaker 1: I heard he was there, but like Big Puff, no,
Speaker 1: I considered them family, right, So when I heard that,
Speaker 1: I said, Okay, that's not a good idea for him
Speaker 1: to be you know what I mean. You know it
Speaker 1: was a bad idea. Yeah, in the lines, then through
Speaker 1: the streets, yeah, you know what I mean. So I
Speaker 1: wanted to personally let him know, you know, So I
Speaker 1: went to park, had a conversation with him. Hey, man,
Speaker 1: this is not and it looked vulnerable to me even
Speaker 1: at the video shoot. So I left Puff and went
Speaker 1: in on the bus with Big you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Big getting high, you know what, I ain't doing the same,
Speaker 1: and I, you know what I mean, plant at that
Speaker 1: sea with him. Man, this ain't go home, This ain't ship,
Speaker 1: ain't set up right right, And and I left, and
Speaker 1: shortly after went that happened. I got a call from
Speaker 1: the investigators, almost assuming as if I had something to
Speaker 1: do with it, because because I want, individuals don't notice.
Speaker 1: So therefore they let me know somebody had a conversation
Speaker 1: with them to say, oh, he warned us of this,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And that was out of
Speaker 1: love that wasn't I had nothing in my heart vindictive
Speaker 1: for the home in them. You know, how about we
Speaker 1: wanted a little bit. But still on the same subject um,
Speaker 1: what was your relationship? Park was at home and at
Speaker 1: the time myseft Park he tried to get me to
Speaker 1: to go out with him. Old man, it just came
Speaker 1: home from prison, you know then that invitation. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: and he died a week later. Wow, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? It was just at he invited you. This
Speaker 1: was in the l a ever actually went and had
Speaker 1: a meeting with we should go over at his office.
Speaker 1: So after the meeting, they wanted to go out and
Speaker 1: do their thing. But how did you like avoid the
Speaker 1: east coast West coast obviously from the south, but you
Speaker 1: have so much connections to both sides, like you could
Speaker 1: have easily been thrown in like and with rolled with
Speaker 1: either coast. I felt like you probably were working over
Speaker 1: time trying to stop happen. Was that work work for
Speaker 1: you during that time or was it like every day
Speaker 1: at work? You know, It's something that I wanted to
Speaker 1: intervene and be down with. And actually I wrote in
Speaker 1: my book where I had a meeting with Puffy and
Speaker 1: Jimmy Henshion, you know what I mean to the Holmes,
Speaker 1: and I was hoping we could find a meeting other
Speaker 1: mind situation where you know, I could bring everybody to
Speaker 1: the table. But after I heard the stories, you know,
Speaker 1: I couldn't. I couldn't stand in that position, knowing what
Speaker 1: I know. You know, it's like a lot of people
Speaker 1: sometimes they say, man, Nor, you're the only person that's
Speaker 1: cool with fifty cent a gile ruth. Yeah, like, I'm
Speaker 1: kind of cool with the cool the boat, and I
Speaker 1: just don't feel like this ship is wrap ship for
Speaker 1: me to intervene. I just I just stay out of it.
Speaker 1: Is that how you felt felt I mean what I mean.
Speaker 1: It could be close to that, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: It could be deeper than that. And you know, puff
Speaker 1: the Homae right now, puff family a little shoot the homeade.
Speaker 1: I love him, But you know what I mean, that
Speaker 1: was a situation that, uh, I felt ship should have
Speaker 1: been done that wasn't done. And therefore, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, I couldn't. I couldn't stand with a straight
Speaker 1: face and be like, hey man, you know what I
Speaker 1: mean that or right, I understand and know it's there.
Speaker 1: You know, the crazy shit about that and I'm so
Speaker 1: sorry to say this way, but I didn't think it
Speaker 1: was gonna go that far. I really did. I really
Speaker 1: didn't like, like, Big didn't think it was gonna go
Speaker 1: that far. I remember Big saying to me, nah man,
Speaker 1: because Big really didn't have to do He really didn't
Speaker 1: like So when I stepped the Big and I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: he was like, nah man, because I really didn't do that.
Speaker 1: So like he really didn't have nothing to do with
Speaker 1: the actual robbery that he was being accused up. And
Speaker 1: I'm telling you he had no reading from for quiz.
Speaker 1: I'm from Brooklyn. He would have said something to me
Speaker 1: real fast. But so and I know you're telling the
Speaker 1: truth from even deeper perspective, like I knew to do
Speaker 1: like and I swear to god, he didn't like. I
Speaker 1: was like, yo, manna I don't pocket him. He's like, man, no,
Speaker 1: you're not. He really like, because I think associated that
Speaker 1: situation with that one, that the one incident where I
Speaker 1: know for a fact Big ain't have did but as well,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But here's the thing, like
Speaker 1: with street naiveness, you know what I mean, street naive,
Speaker 1: that's hard, you know what I mean? And it was
Speaker 1: naive for them to be out there, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, and be there the way I saw them,
Speaker 1: both of them. Yeah, you know what I mean. It
Speaker 1: was naive to not have proper structure around you under
Speaker 1: those circumstances. I saw it. I tried to you know,
Speaker 1: way the flag, you know what I mean. You're like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: go home. You know what I mean, And you know
Speaker 1: it is what it is to day. But we can
Speaker 1: learn from that and keep it moving. That makes a look.
Speaker 1: But now that we're around the deep area, here's a day, Well,
Speaker 1: I want to ask you about we sore the lean epidemic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what I believe in Texas, go listen, I'm got on
Speaker 1: with him. Eight ball and m j G. Like in Japan,
Speaker 1: I'm telling about this is like fifteen years ago. The
Speaker 1: leg like like what is that? Yeah, they're called the
Speaker 1: tossing back then. And let me tell you something. What
Speaker 1: what eight one? MG? But which one is the big one?
Speaker 1: Eight ball? From Japan to JFK sixteen hours straight? The
Speaker 1: white ladies seeing us all board together, I go to
Speaker 1: the bathroom. She taps me. She says, yo, frien A
Speaker 1: move for sixteen So I'm like, what I'm not. I'm
Speaker 1: about used to this. I'm gonna we drink all English.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, what are you talking about? Saying he
Speaker 1: hasn't moved, she said, I'm not Like She's like, I
Speaker 1: don't know what's going on. So I don't know what
Speaker 1: to do. So I go to m j G. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: so we had to go like this under his nose
Speaker 1: and and like he wouldn't wake up, but you knew
Speaker 1: he was alive. And that was the first time I
Speaker 1: had ever came across I came across the lean Or Scissor,
Speaker 1: but whatever, these it's all the same ship. This goddamn
Speaker 1: laarder take out of me feeling I'm gonna taken shot.
Speaker 1: So I'm sorry. Um so, I'm sorry to be all
Speaker 1: over the place, but I'll take your time. PEPSI, you'll
Speaker 1: be in the big homee. They call you the sat
Speaker 1: Pepper in l A. And was this something that you
Speaker 1: felt like, because yeah, it's it's twitter hair Well, I
Speaker 1: just recently lost one of my friends. Yeah, we sorry
Speaker 1: to think Roster, we just we see and I saw
Speaker 1: his problem, yeah, but I didn't address it because he
Speaker 1: was in pain. Yeah, like he was in a wheelchair.
Speaker 1: So I've seen when he was taking certain medications and
Speaker 1: things like that, and I felt like I should have
Speaker 1: stepped up a lot more. Is that the case with it?
Speaker 1: Did you see Pimp going down or he kept that
Speaker 1: away from you because you're the big home. No, you
Speaker 1: know that piece right there is not would happen to Pimp.
Speaker 1: I think Pimp. I think he had kind of comfort
Speaker 1: that Lean situation. You know, one of the things he
Speaker 1: and I had conversations about while he was locked up
Speaker 1: over and over again that you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: that wouldn't be an issue for And I don't believe
Speaker 1: that is what contributed to his situation. But you know,
Speaker 1: Lean is like a chief version of Heroin. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean? What is invented in Texas? Oh? No,
Speaker 1: you mean damn that thinking? I mean screw in the
Speaker 1: home music in that sense was Yeah, I ain't never
Speaker 1: heard of it ship in fol Texas. Okay, so you
Speaker 1: know we own that. So what was the first time
Speaker 1: you heard it? Lead though? Uh, and then I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get back to Pam. I'm sorry. I think the first
Speaker 1: time I heard of it was connected with screw with School.
Speaker 1: Screw School. Think it's there you do it school. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I could have been before, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: because we related it when we heard Screw. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: slowed down musically like what's a lot? We didn't think
Speaker 1: you was crazy? We said, what's rude because we didn't
Speaker 1: understand that that went with the lead, like if you
Speaker 1: won't leave, that's it's chopped the screw correctly. So the
Speaker 1: first time you've seeing somebody only in all you see,
Speaker 1: what was your reaction? That was heron You knew what
Speaker 1: you knew? You know, I understood and come my dad
Speaker 1: explained that ship to me. You know what I mean,
Speaker 1: He really gave me the game. He said, they really
Speaker 1: wants some hair run, but they with the cheap vers,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, A screw but Screw. You know,
Speaker 1: Screw was a real intelligent, unique guy man, even in
Speaker 1: the Mr Lean you know what I mean. I had
Speaker 1: an opportunity to meet that brother. I had to tell
Speaker 1: his story. You know, DJ Screw ain't no told his
Speaker 1: story at least but DJ Screw. When I met Dj Screw,
Speaker 1: DJ Screw was being uh extorted by an artists that
Speaker 1: was connected with me and I didn't know nothing about
Speaker 1: the ex story. But that was the one supposed to
Speaker 1: be extorting it. So it was because you're in yeah, DJ,
Speaker 1: he was paying artists right a monthly, no real ship
Speaker 1: because they was connected to you. Yeah, because because I
Speaker 1: was artist, was telling him that I had that. So
Speaker 1: after he and I had an opportunity to get together
Speaker 1: in my office, I'm looking at the staff right, and
Speaker 1: then he's sitting and looked at He said, Man, you
Speaker 1: ain't nothing like they say you are, right, So I'm
Speaker 1: like what you mean? And he broke that ship down
Speaker 1: to me, say, man, I've been that, you've been getting
Speaker 1: your money. I don't know nothing about your ship. Like
Speaker 1: a lot of ship go on. You know what I
Speaker 1: mean that I don't know nothing about it, like you know,
Speaker 1: screw you up. You know, I end up falling a
Speaker 1: little with screw man, you know what I mean. But
Speaker 1: I just had to say that ship, you know, artists
Speaker 1: was storing him. Yeah, using your name. Yeah, I'm not
Speaker 1: going to ask for the artist. This is what I
Speaker 1: want to ask. I'm not gonna do it. Do let
Speaker 1: me say this about it. He did. Okay, God bless
Speaker 1: that he's not here. Question, so are you gonna jump
Speaker 1: back in the boxing game if I ain't never left
Speaker 1: you never lied, you know, that's my first love. Okay.
Speaker 1: What the music? Yeah, a little boxing? I love boxing too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so what's happening now in boxing? Are they're gonna put
Speaker 1: people in their seats? No audience? What Chico just got
Speaker 1: sucked up right here? You ain't that? I got so
Speaker 1: many of us she of course Stevenson, Okay, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, along with Jerry, I got I got
Speaker 1: the future in the headlock, and we're looking forward to
Speaker 1: seeing them rise and do what they're gonna do. They
Speaker 1: thought nor Mochico was the next Floyd May brother. They
Speaker 1: found out early that's not possible nowhere in there flow
Speaker 1: no with man Floyd right then she cour Stevenson kor
Speaker 1: Stevenson specially okay, and what with the vision here one
Speaker 1: thirty okay, so that's super fathom when I's gonna yeah
Speaker 1: Featherway Feathery, Yeah, got them, you know, and I know
Speaker 1: my ship. You know what saying. I'm over here. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I know you know your boxing
Speaker 1: to brother, I'm watching you, brother, you know what saying.
Speaker 1: God damnit, some nors watching money got damn. So it
Speaker 1: also told me you got your own island. You got,
Speaker 1: you got Jake Prince Island. Yeah, I got that couple
Speaker 1: of a couple of damn you. It's some funny ship
Speaker 1: about the island ship. Right, I used to I used
Speaker 1: to tell home. I used to dreaming this ship understand
Speaker 1: everything that we normally accomplished, even this drink Champ. You
Speaker 1: dream of that ship before it came to fruition and right,
Speaker 1: I believe in sometimes niggas a laugh about your dreams. Right.
Speaker 1: So I was on some olive ship. Man, I want
Speaker 1: the island. One day we have pigs and there out
Speaker 1: with picks. Ship come to fruition and and you know,
Speaker 1: niggas left with their mouthful. They laugh at drink Champs.
Speaker 1: French islands. Got that? I like? Please? Oh you know
Speaker 1: Shine about to be the governor. Yeah, yeah, I kicked
Speaker 1: it with Shina. Yeah I want Shine, but I want
Speaker 1: Shine to become elected officer to believes. But we can't
Speaker 1: sm weed on camera because he's an elected of Fisher.
Speaker 1: Now we can't. We can't have we get a drug.
Speaker 1: I'm getting drup. But I think some people still frown
Speaker 1: upon on weed and services. You know what this is medical?
Speaker 1: Better do it on his Island on his prison press
Speaker 1: laws prison, So you did I know this is a
Speaker 1: weird question. We think gun control needs to be fixing America.
Speaker 1: Gun control, Yeah, because I agree, would everybody be able
Speaker 1: to have a gun who can protect their family. But
Speaker 1: there's the people that you find just to see that's
Speaker 1: nuts and shooting other places. People that got three day
Speaker 1: gun license and just so what do you feel about that?
Speaker 1: I know Texas a big gun state. I was in
Speaker 1: the subway one time. I've seen the white boy just
Speaker 1: fat us going out. What the is going on? Nothing? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I love Texas laws of concern, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. You know where a structure need to
Speaker 1: be uh in place and put the ship in place,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But for as Texas laws,
Speaker 1: I love Texas law. Okay, what a Texas law, the
Speaker 1: little Texas law. You can carry some ship, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. It's open carrying you. But in Texas,
Speaker 1: of course, you can get a gun license and do
Speaker 1: you know carring everywhere for even without a gun lights
Speaker 1: and you can carry that in your call unlike New
Speaker 1: Yall here here as well with other license you can
Speaker 1: have three steps three yeah, yeah, yeah, you can have
Speaker 1: that ship in Texas. You know what I mean, we
Speaker 1: kill animals and ships. Yea, even a south By Southwest
Speaker 1: they got long guns walking around. I don't go to
Speaker 1: south bast Get But I want to talk about checking in.
Speaker 1: A lot of people look at checking in as if
Speaker 1: that's a bad thing. Yeah, I want you to. I
Speaker 1: love checking that because if you come and who's supposed
Speaker 1: to check in? What I'm like, Man, I got a
Speaker 1: hold lot of pinions, but I wanted to start with
Speaker 1: the big home. Yeah, like like with me, I don't
Speaker 1: that's up to the individual. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I don't try to impoll When I was in my twinnes,
Speaker 1: I had a different state of mind that I had
Speaker 1: right now, right, I mean, that ship happens. Uh, it's
Speaker 1: an asset to come in and have relationships with individuals
Speaker 1: in the city that you're coming into, and anybody to
Speaker 1: understand that as a fool, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: If your fool, then sometimes bad news, yeah, you know what,
Speaker 1: Sometimes bad news beat news beat your home. It's hard.
Speaker 1: But but I don't, you know, I don't require that
Speaker 1: ship that it's up to it. But why do people
Speaker 1: fit check it in? It's a bad day because a
Speaker 1: lot of people thinking ability you know, only go up
Speaker 1: to a certain floor, you know what I mean, And
Speaker 1: if your elevator only go up so high, then you
Speaker 1: you you short circuit on different ship, right, So you
Speaker 1: you started, you start like alligning your pride and different
Speaker 1: ship to like make something bad I mean or something
Speaker 1: good good? Yeah, you know what I mean. You turn
Speaker 1: to miss the mean into a felony unnecessarily because just
Speaker 1: just think about the logic to it. I go to
Speaker 1: Houston last dame, I'm in time. That's respect to me.
Speaker 1: He might be busy. You might say, man, you need
Speaker 1: somebody want you or I'm good. I'm you know, I'm
Speaker 1: going to Galeria, gonna check in. I'm good. The brand
Speaker 1: means something. But this is what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 1: So now what happens is now most people go and
Speaker 1: then they go to queens. Oh, then they go to
Speaker 1: to the box and then they hit me. After that, Man,
Speaker 1: I was hanging out with dude, I thought was your friend.
Speaker 1: Hey man, he wasn't so friend. What do you think
Speaker 1: that he? Yeah, looks for squirrels same as animal and
Speaker 1: you chose that ain't got on animals and you didn't
Speaker 1: call me. Yeah, it's not a problem. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: it depends on the for a lot of times, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, when you are choosing to do
Speaker 1: it your way. You know a lot of people think
Speaker 1: they're tougher than you, know what I mean. They're like, oh,
Speaker 1: in case sh it happened to me, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, and then ship happened to him and they
Speaker 1: have a change of heart. But I think the wise
Speaker 1: thing to do, and even with me, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm always looking for connections and relationships that
Speaker 1: I have in different respect for ship too, to move
Speaker 1: smoothly with nothing wrong with that. I think Dreamer Champs
Speaker 1: work is because I knew we shoot these years, we've
Speaker 1: met people that show love and it's it's nothing wrong
Speaker 1: with that. Like I think me and you got close
Speaker 1: because us. Every time I came to Miami, I did
Speaker 1: not buy anybody else's weeds. I don't know you didn't
Speaker 1: sell weed. But I love you. I love you. I
Speaker 1: can see it from you like you know and whatever,
Speaker 1: you know what and more than me for ever having
Speaker 1: problems in Miami, I noticed that when people come to
Speaker 1: a certain people city, so you know what's associated with
Speaker 1: somebody and it helps they again, who checks it? Because
Speaker 1: for example, we're talking this and someone's gonna listen and
Speaker 1: Forest he gonna go to Houston and he's gonna try
Speaker 1: to call Jake Preston check. He's like, I'm going back
Speaker 1: to my because you see, you see Jake Preston's homies.
Speaker 1: That's the way. That's what I'm said. A lot of rappers,
Speaker 1: I don't even have they number. I have their homies.
Speaker 1: I have this street guy from their crew number with them.
Speaker 1: That's why, you know what I'm saying. That's why I
Speaker 1: relate to a little bit more like I don''t know
Speaker 1: how to go Hollywood. I've been trying for twenty years.
Speaker 1: I've been trying anything. I've been trying to go anyway.
Speaker 1: World work. I think lords work. But I just don't
Speaker 1: understand how certain people say, well, well i'm gonna go
Speaker 1: to the town. I'm gonna just live like that's that's
Speaker 1: like ignorant to me. Yeah, well, food of food, despised wisdom,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Sometimes you can't stop him
Speaker 1: from falling off cliff. You gotta think out a fall
Speaker 1: off and something just fall. Let's take another shot, yer
Speaker 1: shot I'll take a shot to wine shots of wive.
Speaker 1: This is Loyalt Double Coming. I met them time before. Yeah. Stop,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm gonna take it. Baby, I
Speaker 1: got a baby. You know. I'm out here feeling great, man,
Speaker 1: I'm feeling great. I'm really listen, man, you really really
Speaker 1: an icond out here, Like I really want to tell
Speaker 1: you how much I respect you, because, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: me being the East Coast do a lot of people
Speaker 1: don't don't really know how much we blueprinted a lot
Speaker 1: of things after you because you know, it's always highlighted
Speaker 1: for the South because you did it for the South,
Speaker 1: but you did it for hip hop too. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: we we we we claim to you too. Yeah you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So just in case people don't
Speaker 1: know that, like in New York, were the same thing. Like, yo, man,
Speaker 1: you know what you did was remarkable. I felt like
Speaker 1: you were the first Motown. I don't said it earlier
Speaker 1: a little bit, but did you decorate your household after Motown? No?
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't say I've done that. But but
Speaker 1: Biggest said it best when they say I'm not from Houston,
Speaker 1: but you know what I mean. I understood it even
Speaker 1: you know way back then that you know, you know
Speaker 1: things are being looked at and respected. But you know,
Speaker 1: I received that, you know what I mean, I received
Speaker 1: that coming from you because the feeling is mutual. I
Speaker 1: respect what you're doing. That's why I'm here thinking. But
Speaker 1: thank you taking. But let me just take bro. We
Speaker 1: have never seen hustle like that. We have never like
Speaker 1: And I swear to guard I swear when I first
Speaker 1: heard of rap a lot, and I said that earlier,
Speaker 1: I really thought it was a big fat white guy
Speaker 1: cowboy hat on. Like I swear, it was so professional.
Speaker 1: And I'm just talking and I'm realizing as I'm researching
Speaker 1: you that you was learning on the job. That's would be,
Speaker 1: that's that's what we have to learn on the job.
Speaker 1: But I was gonna tell you from the outside of
Speaker 1: looking at yeah, it didn't looked like he was learning
Speaker 1: on the jaw. Looked like he was professional. And look
Speaker 1: like this ship was calculated. It looked like everything was strategic.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure everything was calculated strategy, but I didn't
Speaker 1: know this was this this this young man for motherfucking
Speaker 1: you know, young black man. And that's the reason why
Speaker 1: we have to highlight your story everything you do, from
Speaker 1: your books to your movie to your documentary. I don't
Speaker 1: even know if a big a documentary were gonna documentary
Speaker 1: to everything we yeah, dream Chest, It's important every motherfucker
Speaker 1: thing you did, because it takes nothing for me to
Speaker 1: show you your love and you deserve it, like you
Speaker 1: one of them dudes that not only worked hard and
Speaker 1: you out here still living, y'all who still lift you
Speaker 1: this jame. This is what I hate in this game.
Speaker 1: This is the reason why I believe me and I
Speaker 1: f started this. I hate that they try to throw
Speaker 1: the older people out, the people that have ten years
Speaker 1: and better every other job. When you have ten years
Speaker 1: and better in the in the business, they call you season.
Speaker 1: They don't even have a word for washed up in
Speaker 1: in the white world. They don't have a word for
Speaker 1: washed up in fucking jazz world. But in hip hop
Speaker 1: they have a oh he's washed up. Why why do
Speaker 1: we even have these vernaculars in our language? We shouldn't
Speaker 1: I think that listen to and do whatever the funk
Speaker 1: you want for the rest of it your motherfucker world. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you some funny ship. No, no, no, I'm
Speaker 1: going to say something. But yeah, I mean, hey, man,
Speaker 1: Foods come up with all kinds of ship, right, that
Speaker 1: ship gonna happen because you know, a lot of these dudes,
Speaker 1: like I say, don't know how to think right, so
Speaker 1: they come up with different ship to anything that's good.
Speaker 1: Motherfucker want to paint a picture of it being negative
Speaker 1: or whatever. So we can expect that, right, But you know,
Speaker 1: to answer what you're saying, you know the feeling once
Speaker 1: again and mute man. Game expect game all over the world,
Speaker 1: all over the world, and it's drink Championship. How do
Speaker 1: you know? How do you with social media? Because I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna lie. Social media it's a horrid place and
Speaker 1: it's a great place. It's very not social antisocial. It's
Speaker 1: like it's like I automatically know when I post yeah,
Speaker 1: and if I get a hundred comments, I know twelve
Speaker 1: on them. It's gonna be loose and listen, they're gonna
Speaker 1: say ship. I've never been told none of this ship
Speaker 1: I've ever been told to online person. No one's never
Speaker 1: said that to me. Like I'm I'm not acting like
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, super and you're not super super dog.
Speaker 1: I'm not like that. But I'm saying to me, like
Speaker 1: if I post something, and it would be something innocent,
Speaker 1: like hey man, you just took a shot of kan
Speaker 1: yet you your car? Yeah? Like how do you? Because?
Speaker 1: And me, at first, I wouldn't answer these people back,
Speaker 1: and my people would give me like you know, you
Speaker 1: have six hundred thousand followers. The person you just told
Speaker 1: you has six And I'm like, soul, he's where at me?
Speaker 1: Like not only motherfucker, you just gave him sixties five
Speaker 1: thousand followers. I didn't know that. So how do you
Speaker 1: deal with that? I mean, you have the yeah, the
Speaker 1: renom humming yourself dation you got you and it's not reality.
Speaker 1: You gotta talking to you talking to ship that don't
Speaker 1: mean nothing, you know what, I ain't no telling wouldn't
Speaker 1: be So I've learned to try. I try not to
Speaker 1: pay that that ship much attention. Yeah, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, because almost like I'm talking to a goddamn
Speaker 1: statue or something, you know what I mean, somebody that's
Speaker 1: yeah meaningless engles. So you know you can't allow that
Speaker 1: ship to throw you out of your from your movement,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? I understand what it is,
Speaker 1: and uh I have a team that deal with a
Speaker 1: lot of it, so I can't, like, I can't receive
Speaker 1: that ship personally to the extent where I want to
Speaker 1: look that individual up and be like, I'm gonna suck
Speaker 1: you up because I see the comedy guy. He uh
Speaker 1: he pranked you. Yeah, this is good. Know what war
Speaker 1: he pranked you? Ye? If he close ways like I want,
Speaker 1: it makes you I'm good. Well, I was gonna him
Speaker 1: straight up and calling me in a bad time. He was,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, he was on some different ships.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, when I like a mother, he come back,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you. I'll tell you so. Um. Every time
Speaker 1: I always seen you, you always showed me love and
Speaker 1: you always offered me help. Yeah. You always say you're
Speaker 1: magestication anything and going right to me when I google
Speaker 1: you all our TV search. A lot of people I
Speaker 1: don't know that they put a bad to try to
Speaker 1: put it like a bad name to you. I judge
Speaker 1: you on what I seen. Yeah, and what I want
Speaker 1: to say is you you're really I'm just supposed to
Speaker 1: say a real gamester put gamester on it, but I
Speaker 1: don't rely want to use that because gamesters affiliate to
Speaker 1: a gang, and I don't want to do that to me.
Speaker 1: That's a real person, you know. I remember one time
Speaker 1: Juvenile was with you. I don't know if you remember this.
Speaker 1: I think you just signed you for now or whatever,
Speaker 1: and me and Julie was talking and you got on
Speaker 1: the phone. He was like, yo, man, nor just in
Speaker 1: case you need ain't that I'm here And I needed
Speaker 1: something at that time. Yeah, I didn't say I needed it,
Speaker 1: but I need it. And I was like, damn, why
Speaker 1: did I just say that. I didn't know how to
Speaker 1: get in contact with you. But the fact is you
Speaker 1: were there at a moment for me when I needed it.
Speaker 1: I didn't that because I just I didn't know what's
Speaker 1: going on at the time. But the fact is I
Speaker 1: appreciate that. You know what I'm saying, Why how do
Speaker 1: you develop that? How do you develop saying you know what,
Speaker 1: let me see this young man doing his thing, but
Speaker 1: let me add on to it, because that's what I
Speaker 1: took as saying to me. You know, different gifts like
Speaker 1: that I think come from up above, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like like I always, uh, everything ain't about
Speaker 1: the money, you know what I mean? Even when you
Speaker 1: g K was concerned my relationship was developed with them
Speaker 1: personally before it was business, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And I said the same thing to them. You know,
Speaker 1: if y'all need me, you know, let me know. When
Speaker 1: I was laying my blueprint down with p and all
Speaker 1: those guys that was expired by me, you know, it
Speaker 1: was about just sharing the wisdom because I understand that
Speaker 1: wisdom is more important than all of this ship, right,
Speaker 1: So I wanted to share the love. Man. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm that kind of individual where you know, you
Speaker 1: don't have to be no contract and more, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, if I can share some of my
Speaker 1: wisdom with you, and that's what I've done, and that
Speaker 1: that science of respect. I ain't gonna lie, man, I
Speaker 1: haven't read a book like five years. I'm gonna read
Speaker 1: this stuff. I broke a box of understand Yeah, let
Speaker 1: me tall you something. Um, you really an expiration out here.
Speaker 1: And I want to claim me from the East coast
Speaker 1: because I know the South claiming so much and you
Speaker 1: don't got nick motherfulers I would say, Nicks. I don't
Speaker 1: want to say Nicks no more. They're not just saying
Speaker 1: just all right, but you know I want to claim
Speaker 1: you too, man. I want to say how much you
Speaker 1: inspired me because even drink Chance, Drenk Chance, we did
Speaker 1: this with a wrap a lot mentality and had you
Speaker 1: not laid out the blueprint like we were independent of
Speaker 1: six eight months we had nothing. We just was going
Speaker 1: out there spending our own money. It's self funding, catching flights.
Speaker 1: And that's when we looked at each other. Man, we
Speaker 1: do like rap a Lot said there's something to really
Speaker 1: shit out and heard coming from the east. You know what.
Speaker 1: You know, he's the south. Let's finished when you said that,
Speaker 1: But everys a lot of the side he was watching
Speaker 1: him was inspired. Yes, man enough, I want you to
Speaker 1: say that to your face as a man like in
Speaker 1: in case any of them motherfucker's didn't tell you, I'm
Speaker 1: telling you I'll be at the East Coast meetings. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they said, you know, I didn't know something though. I
Speaker 1: was inspired by them for that's all. That's all that's know.
Speaker 1: I know what jealous up that's rusting. All them guys
Speaker 1: inspired me. You know that's another thing I see about you.
Speaker 1: It's not only I don't see jealousy, but I see
Speaker 1: you bigging up somebody else. I always see you say okay, well,
Speaker 1: that guy's knowing that I enjoy it, and they say, yo,
Speaker 1: he picked up, he picked you up, and you always
Speaker 1: mean that. I mean, that's who I am as a person,
Speaker 1: but I don't expect anybody else to be like that.
Speaker 1: So when I'm seeing you, I'm like, well, how did
Speaker 1: you like? I don't know how I develop it? How
Speaker 1: did you get me? And I don't have that disease.
Speaker 1: I don't have that situation where you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: You know, I can't big up a man exactly, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean of a man inspired me. I'm
Speaker 1: proud of that. I ain't got no none of that
Speaker 1: malice and ship in my heart that causes me to
Speaker 1: not be able to say it with my lips, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And I got that from them,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I'm proud of that.
Speaker 1: That's what inspired me to be where I'm at today.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm thankful for this ship and even the ones
Speaker 1: that I inspired inspired me by what they've done. What
Speaker 1: you said, masterpiece, you know what I mean. I see
Speaker 1: what they've done, like damn, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I ain't mad at y'a. I'm inspired by that ship.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna hustle a little harder, but yeah, I
Speaker 1: gotta make some noise for that guy I listened to me.
Speaker 1: I'm prepared for this for a week. Man, I went,
Speaker 1: I just I called everybody, called everybody one be slim
Speaker 1: dog a little flint and I just wanted to know
Speaker 1: everything cause I see anything on the internet. But because
Speaker 1: I wanted to show you that respect, like really talk
Speaker 1: because I'm sorry to say this, they will never be
Speaker 1: another j Crens and that's a compliment. I appreciate it,
Speaker 1: but it's like also like damn, it's also sad because
Speaker 1: like that, I don't think you could ever recreate what
Speaker 1: you did. Like God bless everyone else's error, you know,
Speaker 1: from death Row. But rapper Lot was rapping Loop. That
Speaker 1: was the most different ship we ever soul and it
Speaker 1: made hip hop a better place in a sense if
Speaker 1: that was elevated it. Yeah, yeah, not gonna beaut of
Speaker 1: a journey man, just a case. Make sure that's something
Speaker 1: our call. I'm sorry we had yet now I've been
Speaker 1: it's been a beau for journey and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm always inspired by those who appreciate, you know, what
Speaker 1: I contributed, and likewise, you know what I mean. The
Speaker 1: feeling is the musical because the ship goes on and on,
Speaker 1: so ain't no end to it. I'm sorry taking another
Speaker 1: shot of Loyd Lord me loyal. You gotta do it
Speaker 1: a lot. I had a lot of Our relationship is
Speaker 1: very loyal, Jesus us a shot of it. Were doing
Speaker 1: shots to loyalty. If you ain't got that, you ain't
Speaker 1: got ship. Got that, Julia, We're gonna is it raining
Speaker 1: outside and we are back in full of fact and
Speaker 1: right now we got a journalists extraordin there. We've been
Speaker 1: on Mike Challenges and all I have seen now she's
Speaker 1: how you're biking Listen. I didn't know I was gonna
Speaker 1: be on camera. It's okay when really truly, but I'm
Speaker 1: hearing masterpiece. So you know what that was about when
Speaker 1: he was on it all goes back to the Pimpcy book. Okay,
Speaker 1: when I did the PIMC book, I talked with his mom.
Speaker 1: I talked to a dozen people who said, yes, they
Speaker 1: had this altercation. Right, So, as a journalist, you know,
Speaker 1: your integrity is important. So I'm not gonna put something
Speaker 1: in print if it's not confirmed by people. And so
Speaker 1: when I said, are you trying to interview MASTERP about
Speaker 1: what happened, and he wouldn't speak on it. So if
Speaker 1: I wastet, what's that? Which is integrity? Because you know
Speaker 1: the man has passed away. So I mean, I respected
Speaker 1: you don't want to speak on it. But if you
Speaker 1: don't want to speak on it, and twelve other people
Speaker 1: tell me this did happened, and I'm going to write
Speaker 1: that it happened or you know, this is what they said.
Speaker 1: So but when he spoke on it on the breakfast club,
Speaker 1: referred to me as some white girl. Now, so imagine
Speaker 1: if I said some black guys, it would be disrespectful.
Speaker 1: So that was my only thing to him, I said,
Speaker 1: because he came to an event that Jay did and
Speaker 1: I don't want to put him in the middle of
Speaker 1: any nonsense or whatever. But Master he made a comment
Speaker 1: that was I definitely felt was directed at me. He
Speaker 1: knows who I am, you know, And I made the
Speaker 1: comment basically, if you're gonna speak on me, just say
Speaker 1: my name. If you have a problem. I think that's fine,
Speaker 1: but you're not gonna, you know, dis respect disrespectfully, just
Speaker 1: blow me off. Did some white didn't know? I'm Julia Beverley,
Speaker 1: you could say my name, because I didn't understand one time,
Speaker 1: it's the real, and I said all the two white guys,
Speaker 1: And I didn't mean it like that. I meant it like,
Speaker 1: you know, the two white that that everyone knows it's
Speaker 1: the real. And when I seen Chilling put us that
Speaker 1: day today, I was taking that. It was the context
Speaker 1: in which he said it. It was meant to be
Speaker 1: just maybe all the time, the white girl to be
Speaker 1: in the club, but I didn't need to be it's
Speaker 1: the real. I just saying that the two white guys
Speaker 1: because that's how I described the show. I apologize, I
Speaker 1: know that sometimes that's kind of inappropriate. But they got
Speaker 1: mad at it was like, you know what, the two
Speaker 1: white guys, and I was like, damn, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I meant it's surreal. So I understood that's only a
Speaker 1: white girl though it's so here was the truth about
Speaker 1: the matter, right, Okay, okay, first, first dream camp, let's
Speaker 1: make some loys balls. Don't take another shot, take another
Speaker 1: shot of loyal to tell you that. Go ahead, you
Speaker 1: all right, master people, my homie, right, Julie, My home
Speaker 1: is well. So I don't want this ship like being
Speaker 1: twisted up by putting me into something. I'm like, they're
Speaker 1: wrong as they come, right. But the fact of the
Speaker 1: matter is y'all work that ship out on the spot, right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love it. I love good people, massive pe good
Speaker 1: people and keep you know, you know what. I love it.
Speaker 1: I love this because that's very intimothy, like a person
Speaker 1: like like and he was like doing and he said,
Speaker 1: and he said, but you don't know how he said
Speaker 1: to and he he evaluated. You know, he knew because
Speaker 1: I had sent up for them to come and they said,
Speaker 1: he said to them, they said your names. It was
Speaker 1: just like, I just liked it. Did you did you
Speaker 1: kind of like stood your ground because you know the
Speaker 1: good people like you out there, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: that's part of our culture. That's in our culture. She's
Speaker 1: a pioneer and pioneer, you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: so I can feel like it for us in Florida,
Speaker 1: like what you did for us with the platform that
Speaker 1: you created that helps so many cats in Florida and
Speaker 1: the South in general. That I saw the interview y'all
Speaker 1: did with Tipple. He gave me a nice little magazing
Speaker 1: guys so old and Florida on Orlando I started in
Speaker 1: so how hap old on I'm a it was Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean people used to call the radio, we call
Speaker 1: it oh Town, and we're like, oh, that's corny or whatever.
Speaker 1: So ozone was Orlando. So I just I always looked
Speaker 1: at myself as kind of I was kind of in
Speaker 1: the same hustle as the artist. So like somebody like
Speaker 1: people when I would hear him, you know, freestyle and
Speaker 1: on the radio, or I just see him out hustling,
Speaker 1: like I was moving the same way they were. I
Speaker 1: wasn't a journalist who was just in the office from
Speaker 1: eight to five collecting check Like I was just out
Speaker 1: there trying to just trying to make it the same
Speaker 1: way that they were. So you know, I think a
Speaker 1: lot of artists respected that in that sense. And I
Speaker 1: had just excellent timing because at that time you had
Speaker 1: you know, Rick Ross everywhere everywhere. Yeah, I was all
Speaker 1: over the place. You know. I think I did have
Speaker 1: a had a little point to prove, because you know,
Speaker 1: people would look at me in the beginning like when
Speaker 1: is this white girl gonna you know, But I like
Speaker 1: that when people kind of underestimate to you, that's that's
Speaker 1: extra motivation. Dam good. Did you have anything to do
Speaker 1: with the Respect book? Yeah? So, Um, I think I
Speaker 1: had heard Jay speak on it in an interview saying
Speaker 1: that he was going to write a book eventually, and
Speaker 1: I think I kind of just planted to see at
Speaker 1: that point just let him know, Hey, if you need
Speaker 1: any help, you know, let me know. So it was maybe,
Speaker 1: I don't know, two or three years later. You know,
Speaker 1: is that what you transition with from Ozone to say,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? I mean the books is
Speaker 1: really as people read, you know what, Like I'm all
Speaker 1: over the place, like I have so many different things books.
Speaker 1: I'm not a reader. That's what just now, I'm just
Speaker 1: being honest. Like when the first time when we when
Speaker 1: we recorded the book, he had he had a He's
Speaker 1: recording for like hours of the time. He had a
Speaker 1: bowl of popcorn sitting there and I'm just looking at
Speaker 1: the popcorn, like I know, I can't even like hours
Speaker 1: just in police when we did the first person pre
Speaker 1: This is amazing, Chris, I actually transitioned from when I
Speaker 1: stopped doing the magazine. It really was. The recession was
Speaker 1: really ultimately, you know, labels didn't really happen to I
Speaker 1: just like that. It changed a lot. Yeah, but I did.
Speaker 1: I also felt like it kind of run its course,
Speaker 1: like it kind of accomplished what we set out to do,
Speaker 1: which was give people a voice, have beef with the Source. Uh,
Speaker 1: I mean there was a Benzino. I wouldn't say. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't say we had yeah, be I'm good with Dave.
Speaker 1: You don't know how the Benzino. Let me try to
Speaker 1: give an I'll try to give a short version because
Speaker 1: this is going years back. I mean I was probably
Speaker 1: had to be what twenty one or something like that.
Speaker 1: This was a long time ago, so you know when
Speaker 1: I when I started doing Ozon when it was a
Speaker 1: photo magazine. So initially my thinking was like, oh, somebody's
Speaker 1: going to see this from the Source or Double X
Speaker 1: people playing South, So why you part of my Spanish
Speaker 1: people get to you. No, No, it's good. We need
Speaker 1: the background starting to dance. I'm sorry. So I wanted
Speaker 1: to be a photographer for the Source or Vibe. Nobody
Speaker 1: would ever call me back, like I'm this young white
Speaker 1: girl in Orlando. I'm like, how do I get to
Speaker 1: that point? So I started shooting some stuff for them.
Speaker 1: I think I met h Boo and Gotti who were
Speaker 1: the source, like news editors, artists, No Gotti they were,
Speaker 1: They weren't at there's another I'm gonna I'm gonna stop
Speaker 1: you all right now, this is the same movie world. Yeah,
Speaker 1: take a cold, keep working to keep started. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: you're gonna make me forget the whole story. So I
Speaker 1: started shooting. I shot some stuff for the source. They started,
Speaker 1: you know, using some of my stuff in the photo galleries,
Speaker 1: and they'd come me a couple of checks. I was
Speaker 1: getting a few dollars here and there, and it got
Speaker 1: to a point I think they owed me. I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's like sixteen bucks or something like that, you know,
Speaker 1: and like it's been like a year and nobody's responding
Speaker 1: about my invoices, you know, and it's not even the well,
Speaker 1: at that point, it probably was the money, but like
Speaker 1: when something like that happens now, it's not even the money,
Speaker 1: it's like the disrespect of it, Like you're not even
Speaker 1: gonna respond back, like you know, like you're playing with me.
Speaker 1: So um. I think I had been trying to get
Speaker 1: answers on this invoice. I saw they going into some
Speaker 1: we were here in Miami, going into some club in
Speaker 1: South Beach, and I remember it being a little it
Speaker 1: was a little funny because like they knew me back then,
Speaker 1: like the you know, all the bouncers they let me
Speaker 1: in before Dave, and I remember that being like, well,
Speaker 1: kind of started to get a little pool. But I
Speaker 1: asked him about I said, hey, I've been trying to
Speaker 1: get in touch with somebody about my invoice, and he
Speaker 1: was he was smoking, and he kind of like just
Speaker 1: looked at me and exhale like kind of in my
Speaker 1: face a little bit and just walked in like didn't
Speaker 1: And I'm like, damn, yeah, I doubt he even remembers this,
Speaker 1: but like to me, and maybe it didn't. Maybe it
Speaker 1: wasn't intended that it was like to me, it was
Speaker 1: like disrespectful, you know what I mean. And so I
Speaker 1: have been hearing all there was all the rumors about
Speaker 1: how Benzino was extorting him and all this stuff. So
Speaker 1: we did this year end issue that was supposed to
Speaker 1: be funny. We gave out all these awards like you know,
Speaker 1: best whatever, but it was like all really sarcastic. And
Speaker 1: then I said, I don't even remember details, but best
Speaker 1: Extortionists or something like that goes to ben Zino. It
Speaker 1: was a little it was a pretty and I said
Speaker 1: in the article, like, you know, full disclosure. I'm saying
Speaker 1: all this because they owe me money, they got you
Speaker 1: know whatever. So this I wrote this thing. And the
Speaker 1: funny thing is like when you would write something in
Speaker 1: the magazine, by the time it actually prints and hits
Speaker 1: the streets, it's like two months later, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. So, so we had an office out here
Speaker 1: in Miami by the Venetian would teach and I think
Speaker 1: I'd put some magazines out or whatever. Whenever it reached Miami,
Speaker 1: I get a call from Dave that like it was
Speaker 1: like eleven o'clock at night or whatever, a random number
Speaker 1: pops up and Dave was like cussing me out, hangs
Speaker 1: up after like ninep cuts people out differently or it's like,
Speaker 1: because you know, we we use a lot of you
Speaker 1: like if you feel like that, I'm very curious stuff
Speaker 1: back then, because I really don't a lot of this
Speaker 1: stuff is It's been so long, I don't know I
Speaker 1: remember who'll see Dave. But then Benzino talking Mazino cussing
Speaker 1: me out for an hour and a half. I'm talking
Speaker 1: about looking right and I'm very well, I'm gonna throw
Speaker 1: them in your face. He couldn't that. Okay. I was
Speaker 1: like a hundred pounds. I'm like, what I'm talking about?
Speaker 1: Call your select this is what happened. Okay. He cussed
Speaker 1: me out for an hour. There's audio, you know, you
Speaker 1: know what's so crazy? But he called me and he
Speaker 1: cussed me out for like a good ninety minutes. Like
Speaker 1: it was on specer phone a room back then. He
Speaker 1: was going, shoot, you had to rulemate, remember I was.
Speaker 1: It was just like a kid, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But my roommate he's like, who who is this? You know?
Speaker 1: So after we hung up, I was telling somebody about it.
Speaker 1: I think a DJ. It might have been a DJ.
Speaker 1: Quests in Fort Lauderdale or for Fort Myers was the
Speaker 1: quest I can't even remember. DJ was like. I was
Speaker 1: telling him about it instantly, remember a well in semester.
Speaker 1: I was like, you won't believe what just happened. You know.
Speaker 1: Benzino just cust me. He said, man, I wish you
Speaker 1: had the audio. I would put it on my mixtape.
Speaker 1: So I go to the office like two days later,
Speaker 1: and he had called the office voicemail before he got
Speaker 1: my cell phone number and the message called you yes, no,
Speaker 1: but you know what's crazy? I was in I went
Speaker 1: to SO I said it to Tony Neil DJs. Tony
Speaker 1: said it to all the DJs like funk Master Flex
Speaker 1: playd I think was. I think it was funk Master
Speaker 1: flex like record it was. It's still on the internet somewhere.
Speaker 1: But I went to uh, I think it was Sweden
Speaker 1: or Denmark with Trey songs and we went up to
Speaker 1: DJ was a gay. The DJ like a copy of
Speaker 1: the magazine and he goes, she goes slood monkeys. So
Speaker 1: this day, like if I hear the audio, I just
Speaker 1: started dying back full of viral. Let's take today. But
Speaker 1: one of the best encounters what your masterp was because
Speaker 1: you have the ultimate pass right. It's not like you're
Speaker 1: in a hip hop right now. You're in hip hop.
Speaker 1: What you with one of the most respect did what's
Speaker 1: the book at me? Hold that in my hand while
Speaker 1: I say that one of the most respected men in
Speaker 1: the hip hop. Is it easier for you now navigating
Speaker 1: as as a person that's the homie or what is
Speaker 1: the saying easier navigating as far as the having to
Speaker 1: seemed j Prince coach. Yes, um, yeah, I mean it
Speaker 1: definitely makes a difference. Yeah, I looked at it. I
Speaker 1: would I could. I can see I can see his anger, like,
Speaker 1: you know, because I think he didn't want to be checked,
Speaker 1: like he's at a level where you don't you don't
Speaker 1: get checked, like it's a certain O G status and
Speaker 1: then once you hit that status, I haven't reached it yet. Well,
Speaker 1: I felt like when he said, like attacked my journalistic integrity,
Speaker 1: like I don't just put information at like I don't
Speaker 1: just take just put it about it. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: say something if it's not factual or haven't done the
Speaker 1: research though. No, but I understand where he's coming from
Speaker 1: because if you were talking about Pimcy correctly, PIMC, as
Speaker 1: we all know, has been passed away. It is just
Speaker 1: I respect that he didn't want to speak infamous story
Speaker 1: of altercation with between Master Pete and Pimps. I asked
Speaker 1: him on our show as well. He avoided the question
Speaker 1: as well, which to me, in the arrow of cloud question,
Speaker 1: huh you say, pa Vard in the question he he
Speaker 1: didn't want to because you know a lot, to me,
Speaker 1: that's honorable because had the man been a love speak
Speaker 1: on someone that's past and Pimpsy was the type of
Speaker 1: person to be alive and talking ship. So, so don't
Speaker 1: really happened? Are you gonna tell us what really happened?
Speaker 1: I know, you know the whole story. Look at Junior,
Speaker 1: Lets look at a little more warrior the glory baby ahead.
Speaker 1: We might get to the bottom of the Do you
Speaker 1: want to know what really happened? You know I've heard
Speaker 1: I've heard a lot of different things without well because
Speaker 1: back if he was your boy and Pimp was your boy, yeah,
Speaker 1: two loved ones. Right, it's the situation that you kind
Speaker 1: of hate to choose a side. I tell him all
Speaker 1: the time, don't make me choose a side. I don't
Speaker 1: want to go left or right right, And uh, Pe,
Speaker 1: the Scotland gentleman that he is, uh didn't put me
Speaker 1: in that position. And we worked it out. We have
Speaker 1: That's that's the story. Maybe the viewers you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. I mean, you know, Pete, I love Pe
Speaker 1: Yellow c and uh you know, ship terming us happened
Speaker 1: and I was able to smooth and ship out and
Speaker 1: they actually worked it out. Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: That's the beauty of any controvert thing and ship like
Speaker 1: that being able to the end and being a beautiful story.
Speaker 1: That's what happened, you know what I mean. And all
Speaker 1: that ship that in between that wasn't really important. You know,
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, they respect the protocol
Speaker 1: and ship when Pete. When C died, he didn't have
Speaker 1: no issue with Pete. P didn't have no issue with C.
Speaker 1: So for any of us to take a position where
Speaker 1: it was problem us, it's not Rother and me being
Speaker 1: the journalists. I understand where you're coming from. Now me
Speaker 1: be immediate. Now, I understand what you're coming from, because
Speaker 1: because as you have to bring up tough situations because
Speaker 1: it's it's for the viewers. If you would be like
Speaker 1: why you didn't ask that? Like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like when I interviewed NAS, I didn't ask about jay Z,
Speaker 1: and everyone chastised me for that. It's like, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I feel like the jay Z question has been answered already.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So I understand. I understand
Speaker 1: both both sides. So here's the other piece that go along.
Speaker 1: That's because to take the other piece got dead. I
Speaker 1: heard a call from P right from c he decided
Speaker 1: to embrace us. I mean the ramp a lot, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? No, no, yeah, and uh, one
Speaker 1: step to the it's after a different ship, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. The turbinunce took place. You know, he
Speaker 1: let me know. I had a meeting with him, right,
Speaker 1: you know, he let me know that, Okay, we're together.
Speaker 1: So that before we're together. But you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: and I have to move accordingly to us being together.
Speaker 1: When I explained that to the home and okay, we're together,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So after that, So that's
Speaker 1: why I respect master people not talk about it because
Speaker 1: when you live in an era cloud post good nigga,
Speaker 1: like you can talk about it's gonna be whatever. But
Speaker 1: week about is revered as like one of these and
Speaker 1: this is probably white. Maybe maybe maybe one of his
Speaker 1: one loss, like you know, he slipped up. Maybe it's
Speaker 1: one loss, a loss. Oh maybe it's I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't want I wouldn't, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: call it a loss. It's just he dealed. He played
Speaker 1: the hand. He was dead, right, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: because you know, some ship was being said that he
Speaker 1: had to deal with sometimes it happened right, You don't
Speaker 1: have to like deal with ship and then you have
Speaker 1: to undeal with the ship you was dealing with when
Speaker 1: the hand is different. So I mean, y'all get it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I get it, we get it. It's a noise. So
Speaker 1: but everything game, you've been a boxing game. You're in
Speaker 1: up fucking what's thes this goal? Author? An author? See
Speaker 1: oh what the I lander owner under place? Prince? What
Speaker 1: the next? Can you do? What can you do that?
Speaker 1: This is what you saw it? You said that something
Speaker 1: and if you said, yo, you dreamed these cars that
Speaker 1: you wanted to have and you don't want them? Yeah?
Speaker 1: What then do? What? What do you what can what
Speaker 1: can yours be like that? Like you still have goals
Speaker 1: or you achieved them? Are well? I think I'll achieved
Speaker 1: all my material goals. I don't want to I vote
Speaker 1: for you president of Houston, though, I'll go I Texas
Speaker 1: at least how about property, just just to come over
Speaker 1: it and both of you. I wanted them to Texas.
Speaker 1: Some ships you can conquer without a vote, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? You can just like prove what it
Speaker 1: is and be embraced in love for what it is, right,
Speaker 1: so I mean my dreams moving forward is uh, I
Speaker 1: just want to try and quility in peace. I don't
Speaker 1: have nothing to prove. I don't ain't often of that ship, right,
Speaker 1: I'm just giving rapid young boy for example. Yeah, yeah, boy,
Speaker 1: let's let's touch on that, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like the homie like he called me, right, I mean
Speaker 1: he called me when I when that ship heated up.
Speaker 1: And then it was like somewhat of a misunderstanding, you know,
Speaker 1: because I talked to his brother and he said that
Speaker 1: you know, he hadn't heard what his brother said. And
Speaker 1: you know, young boy being a young boy, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, he reached out to me and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, we was able to communicate, and you know,
Speaker 1: he said what he had to say. I said what
Speaker 1: I had to say the end of that. Because I
Speaker 1: think his his discripacy what you was that you you
Speaker 1: showed his jury all the end of that and I
Speaker 1: don't know, yeah, you gotta do a piece of rights gold.
Speaker 1: How much I believe mistake people. I don't know what
Speaker 1: so well I think his discripacy was. I think he
Speaker 1: wanted you to call him direct. Yeah, he you know,
Speaker 1: just like young boys, do you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: A lot of times they have uncept of how things
Speaker 1: should be when when he in reality, they don't have
Speaker 1: to be that way, right, But you know, at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, I respect him for reaching out
Speaker 1: to me, you know what I mean. And as I said,
Speaker 1: moving forward, you know, I don't have to be his
Speaker 1: friend and I don't want to be his enemy, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And I wish him the best
Speaker 1: because the foundation that he's stand on I have laid,
Speaker 1: so you know, he had to catch up to that.
Speaker 1: But you know, a little dude, and I wish him
Speaker 1: the best. Is it ironic that his girlfriend exployed me
Speaker 1: with his daughter? So damn, I'm just being honest. Something
Speaker 1: caught his eyes special whenever was concerned, So you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, sh it happens, and people attracted
Speaker 1: to different things. You know, I have a homeboard because
Speaker 1: of affiliated to both sides. Yeah, but I have a homeboard.
Speaker 1: Like may need some pounds, and he loved a big
Speaker 1: woman and he don't want to know where we're going
Speaker 1: with this. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, is anything
Speaker 1: other than a big woman is in something you don't
Speaker 1: want number a big two hundred three hundred pound woman.
Speaker 1: When I first met sunny dmon, pick up a sunny dmon.
Speaker 1: That's what's he got different big right there in your hands. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is something when I first met him. Oh, he
Speaker 1: wanted his tools. You don't want anything about three that's
Speaker 1: legal though, you all sounding d like? Is what's sunny
Speaker 1: d like? Goddamn whatever? Y'all like, what y'all like? That's
Speaker 1: what make the world go around. Yeah, I just think
Speaker 1: that this is a little sunny indeed, Ja Christ Week
Speaker 1: and that's my wife right there. You're walking through my
Speaker 1: wife just over readest Yeah, ju far bat that. Yes,
Speaker 1: she didn't hit the lot of you got, Jake Christ
Speaker 1: the lot of I feel like we got there. So man,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna like motor worker. We didn't dropping unread
Speaker 1: sounds gonna ship up. So have you ever like I've
Speaker 1: been um taken back from your reputation because I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be honest like I told, Like I said earlier, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna reiterate this every time I've ever seen you ending
Speaker 1: with it. You always show love, but your reputation super
Speaker 1: succeeds itself. Like people like man keep chap prints chap,
Speaker 1: Like I think that I'm thinking like good and I
Speaker 1: went on certain sites they said, why is everybody scared
Speaker 1: of teperts? Like there was an actual headline? You ever
Speaker 1: you ever get mad at that? Yeah? I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't like that, you know what I mean? I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't try to walk around big. I'm a little dude,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I don't have no
Speaker 1: like little dude complex lawyer teeth got lawyer's lawyer got
Speaker 1: damn you kill the guys and boll Man they got
Speaker 1: stuff out. So I don't like this ship means nothing
Speaker 1: to me, right like, But like my old g and
Speaker 1: Larry Hooper, I got that in my notes. Yeah you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, A little Larry Hooper. Let me
Speaker 1: actually go before you continue that. When Rick Ross made
Speaker 1: that record, I feel like Larry who. Yeah, yeah, was
Speaker 1: that disrespect? You know? I don't personally I don't consider disrespect,
Speaker 1: but I don't think it was disrespect, was I mean?
Speaker 1: I know, Rick Ross, that's the hardly right And why
Speaker 1: do people take that as disrespect? I don't understand that.
Speaker 1: You know, once again the elevator. You know, certain people can't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Sometimes you have to like
Speaker 1: really deal with it and and I did you know,
Speaker 1: I let Ross telling that story. But you know Ross is, uh,
Speaker 1: that's the Homan and that's smooth going forward, but it
Speaker 1: says a lot because I want to be careful. What
Speaker 1: was the misunderstanding to your knowledge? Like when you know,
Speaker 1: even using the big homie name, you know, like it's
Speaker 1: I don't want to get into people. Cool cool, And
Speaker 1: I could see a lot of things. But you know
Speaker 1: what's what's important is uh, you know I was able
Speaker 1: to speak up with a home is what's concerned Rick Ross,
Speaker 1: And I know he had no I don't think any
Speaker 1: mean dirty shit in his heart. So as you can see,
Speaker 1: we're moving forward. And uh, but that's my old g
Speaker 1: I love it, man, Yeah you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's so much deeper than wrong. Now you're being from Texas, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he'd being from Chicago. How did that happen? Let me
Speaker 1: explain that. Okay, Chicago is the first sitting in embrace
Speaker 1: Rappa Lot before the South Chicago embrace Rappa Lot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that fact. The whole mid West get the coroo
Speaker 1: d trod cleaning on how they embraced me before anybody else.
Speaker 1: I wasn't ready for the assid so so I never
Speaker 1: forget that, like you don't forget the bridges you cross,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And and they embraced me,
Speaker 1: and they embraced us because they could relate towards more
Speaker 1: so than any to gettle boys your vision in the beginning,
Speaker 1: and and then leading me to meeting with Larry Hooga, Okay,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I had an opportunity to
Speaker 1: sit with this man like we sit together man, the
Speaker 1: opportunity to tap into his thinking ability and thinking to
Speaker 1: who he really is, you know what I mean. We
Speaker 1: walked to yard and had conversations, and those special conversations
Speaker 1: to me which led to he and I speaking on
Speaker 1: the intro. You say walk the y'all, We say, walk
Speaker 1: the yard, y'all. Was independ together. Yeah we're in the jail.
Speaker 1: Here he here and don't alligator boots and you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. He was dressed better than me, and
Speaker 1: I was to him in the pen. But say I
Speaker 1: did not You just said, I'm just saying you walked
Speaker 1: the yard. Then we walked and talked. Okay, jail listen ya,
Speaker 1: gotta kids hit the book. Holy. We had opportunity to
Speaker 1: walk and talk and spit real game at the time.
Speaker 1: Now I had that thing on, mom, because that's how
Speaker 1: they set him up with a bug and a wristband two,
Speaker 1: charging him with all the charges that you're charging him with. Right,
Speaker 1: We're gonna show this on a vault right now too.
Speaker 1: That's that us ho. Yeah, uh what does he help
Speaker 1: on a couzy swamp where I just said that, yeah,
Speaker 1: good taste in the kids in It's just the way
Speaker 1: that was So what was important or was the conversation
Speaker 1: we had and the brilliance that he possessed. We saw
Speaker 1: to me, we layed to you know, the intro that
Speaker 1: are done on the getto Boards album that the FIDS
Speaker 1: and the state officials threatened me to not put out. Right,
Speaker 1: You're like, you put this out. This is what's coming,
Speaker 1: this is what's coming, this is what's coming, and that
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I'm like, you know
Speaker 1: all that's coming that's going out, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: That he the message that he delivered is relevant to
Speaker 1: date about gainst the go to the pole, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, he's spent like real science. This was
Speaker 1: over twenty years ago, but he's spent science as relevant
Speaker 1: today because the truth standing forever. The lie you have
Speaker 1: to keep changing, right, the truth don't never change. It
Speaker 1: was it stands in tends of time. So he was
Speaker 1: spending the truth even way back then and is relevant
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, you need the podcast. Yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: causes them, you Julians beauty. I'm already producing right now.
Speaker 1: I got five episodes done, which that's what causes them
Speaker 1: to fear who he is. But he's really uh like
Speaker 1: a prophet, you know what I mean. He really possessed
Speaker 1: those qualities to lead us today. And I'm gonna says
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna say something. I'm gonna say something that
Speaker 1: I say a lot. I don't think anybody ever paid
Speaker 1: attention to me, but I've been to Chicago in those
Speaker 1: in those days with my baddest family is from Chicago. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I appreciate it more with O. G. S had control
Speaker 1: of it as opposed to now, where like I used
Speaker 1: to go to to see my brother, the Latin Kings
Speaker 1: will be on top of the motherfucking because it's my
Speaker 1: span is family, So the Latin Kings will be on
Speaker 1: top of the roof like that that takes that take
Speaker 1: me coming through so serious and that's when older ogs was.
Speaker 1: Now there's no structure anything. So that's when Chicago like
Speaker 1: got loose. It's when they took Larry who was the
Speaker 1: way they cook took. Uh, it's been proven and show up.
Speaker 1: Um what's my man name? Um from for um Jeff Ford.
Speaker 1: That's that. That's that's the dude that I see the
Speaker 1: documentary on him and I'm a kato the span dude
Speaker 1: like when when they took away the leaders and I
Speaker 1: think police actually recognized that. I think police knew that
Speaker 1: once they took the leaders of these organizations. A wait,
Speaker 1: that's this young dude attitude that we're dealing with right now,
Speaker 1: like funk everybody else. Yeah, because we deal with that,
Speaker 1: we have O G s that would give us consequences.
Speaker 1: Not I don't have O G. Do you agree with
Speaker 1: what I'm saying on you? No? One under said. Now,
Speaker 1: it's about the I G O O G. You know, yeah,
Speaker 1: but let's put that off the graphic right now. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know, the O G is dominant in Lanta, hooba
Speaker 1: is is relevant today and you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: when he come in, you know, we all ride with him.
Speaker 1: He said, he coming home soon coming and look, you
Speaker 1: never get you never get scared of the connections you've
Speaker 1: got because just think about it, like it's not a
Speaker 1: lot of people would ever say they spoke to Larry
Speaker 1: woman walked around jail with him with gators. Yeah, one
Speaker 1: of one. You have to like understand fear. Fears. It's
Speaker 1: something that's not of guard, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So you can't embrace fear and said fear it's black.
Speaker 1: It's not of God, that's not of God. No, you're
Speaker 1: being fear. That's the death. Yeah, that's some dark ship.
Speaker 1: You're scared. That's the best, some other ship. You submitted
Speaker 1: to something that's less. And so Ris Jimmie offer very
Speaker 1: this is, this is, this is so light that man,
Speaker 1: a little shot up taken the same time, you know
Speaker 1: in the red It's okay, it's okay. That is called
Speaker 1: that's called neutru. It's you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: you miss with the white, it's called neutro. God, damnit, man,
Speaker 1: let me tell you something, Jay Prince, And this is crazy.
Speaker 1: I also want to big up your son too, because
Speaker 1: we spoke about him, but I didn't pick him up,
Speaker 1: and I want to make sure I do big him up.
Speaker 1: Always a respectful dude always every time I see him,
Speaker 1: Always what's up? Yea. But not only that. Every time
Speaker 1: I do an episode I google as me, I go
Speaker 1: to Twitter because Twitter is my most negative ship. Every
Speaker 1: like I got all my allar ship. So I go
Speaker 1: to Twitter because I want to get that out the
Speaker 1: way real fast, like let's get the neg activity out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I said, Yo, y'all got any questions for Jay
Speaker 1: Prince And here's to respect to yourself. Yeah, twelve people.
Speaker 1: I got a hundred messages, twelve people. This is within Twitter,
Speaker 1: like twelve to twenty minutes. So people said, is he
Speaker 1: basing his thing on his pops? And I said, oh,
Speaker 1: this is young. They don't know I'm talking mother pops.
Speaker 1: But that let me know your son is laying down
Speaker 1: motherfucking ground. You know he can come out of my
Speaker 1: nutban that you no, no, no, but that goutta that
Speaker 1: gotta feel good that guy. I'm crying on them that
Speaker 1: he's not only continuing legacy, he continued with respect. I
Speaker 1: think I'm there, and I apologize for for for going back.
Speaker 1: I think that was the most problem that I had
Speaker 1: when I heard the birdman that didn't pay or the
Speaker 1: discrepancys was was I see the character of your son? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a version of you. He deserves. Yeah, so I
Speaker 1: didn't understand where the disconnector was. Did you understand where
Speaker 1: the dis connect was? Enough, I'm gonna take a shot.
Speaker 1: Your shot. You can't put that down? You know, you
Speaker 1: got you gotta know that he do. Come on, y'all know,
Speaker 1: I don't really drink. Listen, your ship it's illegal. So yeah,
Speaker 1: speaking of the Homer, but with the homie, yeah, because yeah,
Speaker 1: once again he found himself in a situation. Well, you
Speaker 1: don't understand all that happened there. Like I'm from the
Speaker 1: school where everybody don't go right, and I feel like
Speaker 1: whatever you've done all became that came before me. I
Speaker 1: don't go you know what I mean, because I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna react the same. I'm gonna I'm gonna do different ships. Right.
Speaker 1: But along that eLearning, I understood that what had happened,
Speaker 1: you know, I grew to understood what had happened. And
Speaker 1: with that advance that they had took, they found themselves
Speaker 1: in bondage. They would never want to like, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, it's not no ship that cash money
Speaker 1: would want to admit, but I'm sure you don't mind
Speaker 1: here and the truth. You know, when you take such
Speaker 1: a large amount and motherfucker want their money back, right,
Speaker 1: I won't use some paper. I own my paper, right,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean That we're gonna agreement and
Speaker 1: I'm in control of it, then I'm gonna grab my
Speaker 1: paper before you get anything. And here's something. Had agreement
Speaker 1: or no, it was it was a solid agreement, okay,
Speaker 1: because I understand the penis and you told him that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but lit we sign the people, Okay, I'm sorry. By
Speaker 1: same token, I wasn't a well you know what I
Speaker 1: mean all that recouping action, So to me, that was
Speaker 1: a pause. That was a pause, and once again we
Speaker 1: got it straight, you know what I mean, the best
Speaker 1: way we could get it straight. Goddamn, you're gonna eat
Speaker 1: for the rest of your life. But you know what,
Speaker 1: dope that ship, you know, that was an interesting I
Speaker 1: am told his story, but my son had you know,
Speaker 1: of course, brought break straight to the table and certain
Speaker 1: people trying to cut him out the picture. Imagine that,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, y'all going chopped this whole
Speaker 1: cake up and he not included, right, you know, I
Speaker 1: had to make some calls, you know, first to the
Speaker 1: home and summer my son not included, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, almost like, Okay, we're gonna just chunk your
Speaker 1: little something for bringing so I can turn that ship
Speaker 1: around too. Oh so let me get this straight. I
Speaker 1: want to get Mr. Come out the door to listen,
Speaker 1: So let me get this straight. So they not only
Speaker 1: agree with what they said was we're just gonna piece
Speaker 1: you off for what was it called discovery final s
Speaker 1: feet Now I'm in for the rest of my life exactly.
Speaker 1: And that wasn't kids money, that was some other people.
Speaker 1: But I got this ship straight, like we know, find
Speaker 1: the fee niggers, right, this is a fee feed. We're
Speaker 1: like really in this ship was the first like challenge.
Speaker 1: Then we got that straight and then you know, hey,
Speaker 1: you know I can't complain about none of that ship
Speaker 1: because ultimately it uh, it was a blessing, blessing, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, it turned out that way and
Speaker 1: the end, you know, you know how ship is the
Speaker 1: challenges along the journey and this depends on what you
Speaker 1: do to cause your destination to be what it is.
Speaker 1: And I made that ship be really profitable. It doesn't
Speaker 1: make things awkward for like Drake though, does he have
Speaker 1: any saying that conversation what I'm saying, he's lawyer for
Speaker 1: the easier way to put it. But here's my question,
Speaker 1: and I want to be ast of the manor how
Speaker 1: awkward is your relationship with bird Man? Now? After that?
Speaker 1: Is it awkward or it's just like it is what
Speaker 1: it is. I'm okay with it, Okay, I ain't had
Speaker 1: the comments just beeper than just bird Man slim okay
Speaker 1: as well, you know what I mean. Both both of
Speaker 1: them like with me. But you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: It ain't bird Man siventy five slam point a fifty
Speaker 1: fifty because I understand what happened from the route, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So I'm all right with them.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. They ain't my enemies, and
Speaker 1: you know I consider I still consider I'm distant family.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, and what I like. If
Speaker 1: I put in a situation where I have to ride
Speaker 1: with them, I choose to ride with them, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, because the good, I wait, the bad. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the way I feel about this ship. So the
Speaker 1: cash money and ump set, we ride them and push
Speaker 1: your teeth right now, you ride, I want them God
Speaker 1: looking your teeth, you cat me. I'm glad they left
Speaker 1: it alone. I'm glad that being squashed. I'm glad they squashed.
Speaker 1: Shot back and grig. Do you want to bread? You
Speaker 1: know you don't drink it old drink to night. You
Speaker 1: don't want to glass yet, you don't want to glasses
Speaker 1: the hard I've never drank and then I want to drink. No,
Speaker 1: I don't want to be first. I don't mean the first,
Speaker 1: no reason though, I just, I just I don't want
Speaker 1: to be the person that old start drinking. Okay, don't
Speaker 1: start dating law you you know they's ant like my
Speaker 1: dream like a drink. She sounds like in my m
Speaker 1: ball she put vocket your da sounds like angela you
Speaker 1: law you, yes, you you need to take a shot
Speaker 1: lay lords and I'm not. She don't need it to take,
Speaker 1: you know, Chris Browns, all these girls ain't more. You
Speaker 1: got to make shot the sertain wash my hands, take
Speaker 1: a big mesa. I can't move, but Mr Goodback. You
Speaker 1: know about Jake friends, Yes, I heard about it. I'm
Speaker 1: looking at how scared are you right now? Listening too
Speaker 1: much like la? You know you don't. You don't listen, man,
Speaker 1: that's this is just the big on me for real.
Speaker 1: Mr Comy more Nas just shout at you out. Yeah
Speaker 1: you're gonna play that for these two right now. Like
Speaker 1: I don't know why I looked at you like all right,
Speaker 1: trying to hear your shine, trying to nas just shot
Speaker 1: at you all to me, how was that that was?
Speaker 1: That was big? That was that was big? Right then?
Speaker 1: You anything, he's watching your videos. I knew he's following me.
Speaker 1: Might know you know he's following you yet that that's
Speaker 1: the crazy ship right now, Jake prison and they can
Speaker 1: follow you like like like that's your support because we
Speaker 1: have to follow a bunch of people because we don't.
Speaker 1: Gays don't Nas don't laugh at everything. We know he
Speaker 1: comes from. You know what I'm saying, it's hard fight
Speaker 1: to make you laugh at certain people don't think everything. No,
Speaker 1: he's not, he's who you know, Yeah, every give me laugh,
Speaker 1: tell you something, yea. If a person is too serious
Speaker 1: four seven year, it's something about him. But because real
Speaker 1: Ginsters laugh, I noticed that, like like real Gatesters laugh,
Speaker 1: they party. They have fundy open doors for ladies. The
Speaker 1: Goddess guys not you know, I'm not some guys that
Speaker 1: act like that and this that, But for those part,
Speaker 1: real real people are respectful, like I come from everybody.
Speaker 1: I don't know if if Jacob Co sign this, but
Speaker 1: I come from arab When the lady, I think Buster
Speaker 1: said this the other day, when a lady walked through
Speaker 1: the projects, we used to carry her back weed, stop
Speaker 1: selling drops. No, that's all right, that's all right. It's
Speaker 1: legal to respect when absolutely I wouldn't ever known fun
Speaker 1: Is it easy? Sore? On that earlier? The Maga stallionship,
Speaker 1: how do how do you actually feel about about that?
Speaker 1: You know that's a progress, that's that's in the work
Speaker 1: right um and uh, it's a it's in a play.
Speaker 1: It's right now where I can see the end be
Speaker 1: happening in properly where I want, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: From where it started fifteen or one, the homie really
Speaker 1: took the risks and grind real hard to what it
Speaker 1: was on the bill hard. Where she is today, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? And on the other side, I
Speaker 1: understand her recent after jay Z and you know, all
Speaker 1: the people too, like Spain, want try something. I'm a
Speaker 1: lord to know about it. You know you got yeah,
Speaker 1: but like I understand how position with what happened at
Speaker 1: you know, me and the home, they had the opportunity
Speaker 1: to sit across the table from one another, like we
Speaker 1: all right now. And he's a scout and I'm a
Speaker 1: childer crop and I'm talking about jay z okay like
Speaker 1: he's a Scott, I'm a gyman, and he and I,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, we see that we saw
Speaker 1: out of eye with that situation in spite of you know,
Speaker 1: all the workers you know, putting that different ship, that
Speaker 1: false ship, you know what I mean. And then the
Speaker 1: homer was able to see it at the tape and
Speaker 1: be like mine, it's beautiful. So I'm expecting the end
Speaker 1: to be beautiful. I think the end is gonna be beautiful.
Speaker 1: I think the end is gonna beautiful because the reason
Speaker 1: why would be thank you to her shot very fast.
Speaker 1: Let's take it on, then take it with the programs
Speaker 1: shouting up. The junior tells what be thinking of something
Speaker 1: that I ain't gonna lie home and want to age two?
Speaker 1: I got you some late everyone, yo, d Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: the homely too. Yeah, it's goddamn it. Man, Actually, rebody
Speaker 1: even spect Jake has it every man of time with yours.
Speaker 1: Don't like me the fett I don't like no about
Speaker 1: that came at me too. I don't like, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you something and just I swear to God, my
Speaker 1: wife is right there. This is one million percent story,
Speaker 1: true story. I feel like taking up my fucking shoes.
Speaker 1: I don't even think itllegal. When the what I don't
Speaker 1: want to say his name because that you didn't say
Speaker 1: his name. The rainbow head kid I've seen shot at
Speaker 1: the actual dude that's supposed to be a street that
Speaker 1: that is the street guy from me. We see each
Speaker 1: other in the airport and the only thing I can
Speaker 1: plain to him I said, I said, Yo, why do
Speaker 1: you let the little homie do certain things? Yeah? And
Speaker 1: he said yo, over room. And I swear to God,
Speaker 1: I said, you let him disrespect Jane Prince m. I
Speaker 1: didn't like that, yeah, and he said I didn't either. Yeah.
Speaker 1: What's let me know that Shoddy was actually well a
Speaker 1: weird yeah of what was happening, but he didn't have
Speaker 1: controlled caught up in the me he got caught up in.
Speaker 1: Because I swear to God, that's that's like. And you
Speaker 1: know me and you know each other. But I showed
Speaker 1: you that respect for my far like I was, like,
Speaker 1: I didn't like that, but you know, and he admitted
Speaker 1: it too though. You know what that says to me
Speaker 1: in spite of and it's good that he may have
Speaker 1: admitted it, for what that says to me from a
Speaker 1: perspective is he never was you know who he claimed
Speaker 1: to be. You know what I mean? And that's just
Speaker 1: thee and the other. I know what I mean. He shouted, Okay,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. He like, I think he
Speaker 1: was caught off and say the truth because how he
Speaker 1: admitted it to me. When I said that, I said, yo, listen,
Speaker 1: everybody like the s M D thing. I said that
Speaker 1: was the wrong, like thedest homies that they pooled it.
Speaker 1: And he looked at me and said, yo, man, and
Speaker 1: he looked that's why I do respect to me. He
Speaker 1: put his heart down, like because I felt like he
Speaker 1: felt me. Now I get that, get that, but we
Speaker 1: don't drink chimp. Yes, take that. I took a shot larger,
Speaker 1: so keep it real, keep it real. Thinking for him
Speaker 1: to ever embrace that, you allow that to become what
Speaker 1: it became from him embracing that uh, you know that
Speaker 1: just wasn't no thorough ship obvious like I never would
Speaker 1: have embraced that. That wouldn't qualified and heard me be
Speaker 1: DEVI was advocated. I don't think he embraced it. I
Speaker 1: think it happened already and I think he just was
Speaker 1: like I'm here like once. It's still kind of wrong
Speaker 1: because he could have corrected it, because what I toold
Speaker 1: to him. He immediately and I said, he immediately said
Speaker 1: right nor because you know he come up to me,
Speaker 1: quote blood money, he's quote my lyrics for my ship, saying, Yo,
Speaker 1: how much I look up to you? So I'm saying
Speaker 1: I respect with you other doing. Now, the one thing
Speaker 1: I don't respect was the homie. Like the homie. And
Speaker 1: he admitted it right there to me. And this is
Speaker 1: the gamester of the He said, you know what, norm me,
Speaker 1: I should have corrected that. That's being a man. That's
Speaker 1: a man to me. That That's what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 1: I got older him though, Yeah, he admitted. He admitted that,
Speaker 1: he admitted to admitted it. And the work the airport
Speaker 1: also he embraced it. You ain't no, ain't no like
Speaker 1: skating around that ship. He never could have became when
Speaker 1: he became without him embracing Now, he not happy that
Speaker 1: that he embraced it, and if he had another opportunity,
Speaker 1: he would do something different. I believe so. But he
Speaker 1: embraced that ship. I believe so. I don't think he
Speaker 1: embraced it. Let me just beat that was advocate. I
Speaker 1: don't think he embraced it. I didn't think he went
Speaker 1: so far that. I mean, once it was done, and
Speaker 1: this is where I am agreeing with you, once it
Speaker 1: was done, he should have said your listen, bro and
Speaker 1: calmed it down. And the fact that he didn't do it,
Speaker 1: that's his mistake. That's his mistamic. Because me personally, if
Speaker 1: my little man, if my little man does something, I
Speaker 1: don't agree with. You know what I'm saying. But what
Speaker 1: happened is I get it. I get it. Like they
Speaker 1: were making money, they would do him, and they just
Speaker 1: kept rolling with the process. And all of them all
Speaker 1: stop now looking at the benefits. But I looked at
Speaker 1: that man. That was my only complaint. And I'm not
Speaker 1: full the South, I'm not like but my respect you, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was my only game played to I didn't say
Speaker 1: anything about him, just like anybody beloved y'all or anybody.
Speaker 1: I said, Yo, that part right, The homie never deserved that,
Speaker 1: the homies family never deserved that. And he looked, I
Speaker 1: kill you. I gotta told the story, yever. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I can see the little you have for him. I
Speaker 1: want to love I have for you, well if you had,
Speaker 1: if you had love for me, or what I'm saying. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm listening here, crazy, No, I don't think so. Okay,
Speaker 1: because we agreed to this and agree to disagree, then okay,
Speaker 1: you some men say it's impossible for him to become
Speaker 1: who he became without him embracing it. Okay, No, no,
Speaker 1: Now if you want to say he embraced it and
Speaker 1: eighty five and sin eighty five per cent, you want
Speaker 1: to put a percentage on the look, Okay, this is
Speaker 1: what I think. So what I think now, I'm totally
Speaker 1: the outside of looking at what I think happened was
Speaker 1: that was something that the dude did on his own.
Speaker 1: And then he's just like, damn, I gotta ride with him,
Speaker 1: like that's what I think. But I could be wrong.
Speaker 1: Don't work like that in real life. Now you know
Speaker 1: why I could Jake st Let me keep you real
Speaker 1: with you let me you could. Your house is so
Speaker 1: put together, this is real ship. Your house is so
Speaker 1: put together. You might look at another house. Let's say
Speaker 1: they're not together because your ship is sold together. Everyone's
Speaker 1: house it's not together. I agree with that. But still
Speaker 1: right and wrong, and I agree with that. I mean,
Speaker 1: it don't matter, you know what I mean. But a
Speaker 1: lot like yeah, you know what I mean. Right is
Speaker 1: right and wrong and wrong and true its true. False
Speaker 1: is false, you know what I mean. The President, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? That right like he could be forgiven,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and he he's standing on
Speaker 1: you know what he's standing on. He didn't turn into rack.
Speaker 1: But so I understand you know what I mean, and
Speaker 1: the love you have for him. But by the same
Speaker 1: token that snitch, that moster, that that dude grew into,
Speaker 1: he laid the foundation to help be all that. And
Speaker 1: did you did you know off top he was gonna
Speaker 1: be coming to snitch all the time? You know what
Speaker 1: I mean? It was like shit, I didn't have to think.
Speaker 1: You saw that ship along time, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like you can see under dress, right, you can see
Speaker 1: under dress who who got you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Who hanging? Who swinging. Who got to split? You know
Speaker 1: what I mean? I saw the split immediately. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to know what I'm saying. How about you come out
Speaker 1: of the door? You from New York? From New York?
Speaker 1: Did you see that coming? I didn't see it, But
Speaker 1: at the same time, I feel its basically they should
Speaker 1: have kept entertainment and business separate. I knew was a
Speaker 1: good entertainer and he was entertaining great on the ground.
Speaker 1: He was great entertainment, So I didn't know it's gonna
Speaker 1: go that far. When you went that fall, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's about to get bad because he's not ready to
Speaker 1: do none at that time. So now you dream that
Speaker 1: you're a journalist, have you ever seen this type of case?
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm surprised that he's still being embraced by
Speaker 1: some people, as this generation ain't ain't about and it's
Speaker 1: an international generation, and there's so many let me just say,
Speaker 1: it's like a president. I apologize, but there's so many people.
Speaker 1: There's so many people that relating to other people fucking
Speaker 1: their baby mombs. There's so many people to other people
Speaker 1: related to you know, them, setting them up and things
Speaker 1: like that. And I actually agree with that, but not
Speaker 1: when you say you were part of the street life.
Speaker 1: Once you say your part of the stream, like you
Speaker 1: you agree, you agree to that because you're sucking the
Speaker 1: baby bombs too. So I'm sorry. I don't need that
Speaker 1: with trop for just anything for attention, anything to attention.
Speaker 1: You know what. The truth of the matter is, like
Speaker 1: characters who you are nobody looking. He's squat when he
Speaker 1: can you don't stand up like me up, I can
Speaker 1: put that he's a squatter. Okay, I'm just telling y'all
Speaker 1: the truth. The man squatter. You know, we don't seeing squatter,
Speaker 1: But don't stand up like me. And and just let
Speaker 1: it hang and just let it flow. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean. He's squat, so you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: That's who he is in pride. Goddamn y'all can wait home.
Speaker 1: And I'm right there shout you up, yo. I can't
Speaker 1: tell you I was so excited for this interview with
Speaker 1: you and and and also take mrical mind the door
Speaker 1: mother plugging Julian Beverly. But I can't lie when I
Speaker 1: think about so. I thought about me. But then when
Speaker 1: I google and I've seen it and I seen elfy
Speaker 1: one shares the same love for you as me at
Speaker 1: least they said, yeah, I'm sucking on it, bro, Like
Speaker 1: I'm really on it, bro, I'm really honest. I really
Speaker 1: love what you represent for your book. Yeah, and you're
Speaker 1: like a one of one man, like you're really all
Speaker 1: you know. The beauty of about that book was like
Speaker 1: a lot of people, a lot of you know, the
Speaker 1: book gang is a different game, and it reminded me
Speaker 1: of when I came in the music industry. You know,
Speaker 1: they offered me fifteen to send books. YOI you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, your sorry, like to this loan, I mean,
Speaker 1: and done this track rocking and laid out all this
Speaker 1: ship and they're like, oh, it's so the beauty of
Speaker 1: the end and of that story is you know, Mr
Speaker 1: Com we've done it independently, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: We put a good team together, Julie, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, was right there and we was able to
Speaker 1: kick ass self publishing, you know what I mean, and
Speaker 1: done a hundred thousand with no problem, and then all
Speaker 1: of those just like in the music game that didn't
Speaker 1: believe around came back around. You know what I mean,
Speaker 1: take a shot, you guys, self published, self publishing. What
Speaker 1: I'm saying for future books. I'm sure, like you said,
Speaker 1: they came back around. So y'are telling me we gotta
Speaker 1: set up the book lab for hip hop's Charlemagne and
Speaker 1: Cameron just got some ship. That's something bad idea. They
Speaker 1: just announced some ship. Okay, y'all be to wrap a
Speaker 1: lot of books book because you know I'm you know,
Speaker 1: I'm writing a book. You know what my book is
Speaker 1: called Reading is overrated? Its just pictures. People will buy that.
Speaker 1: It's not a paragraph. Look just looking about pictures and things.
Speaker 1: A foul person. I'm sorry, I'm gonna have like two citizens.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be like you gotta twitty. You gotta squitch
Speaker 1: your eyes. How coming the older you get, you gotta
Speaker 1: squitch your eyes in this book. Agent told me that.
Speaker 1: He said, it's all about the title. If you got
Speaker 1: a good title, people will buy. It. Doesn't matter the
Speaker 1: reason is overrated. They might read it, they just buy.
Speaker 1: I don't think reading is overrated. I'm sorry. This is
Speaker 1: just mean to get people to buy my book. Like
Speaker 1: like I'm reading some ship change my life? What did
Speaker 1: you change your life? This book called Thinking grow rich? Yo?
Speaker 1: I love that book. Waits from the whole series that
Speaker 1: is what the not thinking grow rich? But the whole
Speaker 1: series has a whole series. I bought that ship afterwards. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I've never seen you this truth to do that? Now?
Speaker 1: The truth? What is that? Thinking? Those grows rich? It's
Speaker 1: not and it's real. It's not some dude perspective. He
Speaker 1: studies successful people. Yeah, real ship that you have, thank you,
Speaker 1: that should do to you. Okay, thinking grows rich, thinking
Speaker 1: grow rich? All right, now it's a competitive though. That's
Speaker 1: a great ship. That's great. I'm gonna write this. I've
Speaker 1: never seen him like, it's great. Hands turned black, I've
Speaker 1: never seen that's a great all of this ship. You
Speaker 1: got Beijing, don't big man, got j you'll call us
Speaker 1: our brother's came in listen. I don't know. I'm like,
Speaker 1: so something's going on. I'm don't got it, man, I
Speaker 1: don't got a mazing and obviously neither the years. Obviously
Speaker 1: you are kid sage. You look good. You have Jesus.
Speaker 1: I started selling pepper and I went to Santa Claus
Speaker 1: every month. League. Oh my god, this is this is dope.
Speaker 1: I love this man. No, I ain't gonna I learned someone.
Speaker 1: Are we popping into the bottom of loyalty. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna that's a map. It's my first time time space stage. Yeah,
Speaker 1: come to get another. Get enough ship, go on man,
Speaker 1: larger ship to go on. I'm not bet man. You
Speaker 1: might be changed in the world. That's it. That's just
Speaker 1: listen ship man. That's saying, come on, you don't wipe.
Speaker 1: You gotta drink everything, snig get your own rich, drinking
Speaker 1: it over because it's gonna make it. Tell some truth.
Speaker 1: We're a cup back, you know what, need a different cup.
Speaker 1: I'm so proud of him. Wife, don't all so Julia
Speaker 1: and Beverly. Yes, what was your most awkward interview you
Speaker 1: ever did? Oh? Like, I don't want to smoke crack
Speaker 1: in front of you. Okay, I'm an interview something crack anyway,
Speaker 1: I know I don't think so. But definitely it's not
Speaker 1: dirty because it's way in Florida. I don't want Hey, man,
Speaker 1: you'll figure it out. Just describe the situation. Just how
Speaker 1: the song who by This Ship is so good. I
Speaker 1: dropped the whole goddamn about you. I thought I was
Speaker 1: going to get out of answering that question. There was
Speaker 1: a there was a DJ who kind of kind of
Speaker 1: just look at me. There was a there was a
Speaker 1: DJ that I went to interview. Well, I was going
Speaker 1: to interview him the lobby at this hotel and he said, no,
Speaker 1: we'll do it in my room. I just met him
Speaker 1: like five s whenever. Yeah, we get to the room
Speaker 1: and you know, that's how we want to see stuff,
Speaker 1: you know. He flipped the lights off and kind of
Speaker 1: went for the who and I was like, what just happened?
Speaker 1: So for you? So when you and DJ drive I
Speaker 1: left hand right, we're dropped me and draw hard. Good.
Speaker 1: But it was awkward interview. Yeah, the interview didn't have
Speaker 1: him and he chase me down the room, like remember
Speaker 1: the room number, you're gonna be back, here's the key's
Speaker 1: this is a moment. Yeah, anybody a woman that it
Speaker 1: would be two hundred guys and five females, so you know,
Speaker 1: you'd be getting a lot of literals. What they like
Speaker 1: he said it was it was great for the females
Speaker 1: because you'd be just you'd be feeling like a supermodel,
Speaker 1: like get a lot of attention. But that was a
Speaker 1: little That was the most that I can think of.
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's been others, and we don't know this
Speaker 1: DJ name correct. Is he still DJ say he's big
Speaker 1: show fantastic and we got sucking Jake Prince on sucking
Speaker 1: drink Champs. I really, I really, you know, I don't
Speaker 1: want to keep reading hereating myself, but I really want
Speaker 1: to thank you so much because you have one of
Speaker 1: the most interesting, most real stories in hip hop. And
Speaker 1: I patted myself out of you because you don't have
Speaker 1: a bit gass moment. You don't have a moment where
Speaker 1: you know what he folded right here or he did
Speaker 1: some ship right here. So me personally, I always look
Speaker 1: up to you like that, like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: because I took losses in life, just not a hip hop.
Speaker 1: I ain't got no rap nigger in the world to
Speaker 1: say they beat me in anything. I don't ain't no
Speaker 1: ceo losses just out of hire. Yeah, beautiful, you're feeling
Speaker 1: and I've had it most of my ship. I don't
Speaker 1: want to say some of it. I don't. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: give you more than that. Most of them is because
Speaker 1: if Jay Prince could do it, and he could last
Speaker 1: thirty years and hip hop andrew All Brown's ghosts for
Speaker 1: last because you know, everybody called this thing, but I've
Speaker 1: hadded my feet after you because it was something. It
Speaker 1: was something that Mike Geronimore said right that. Actually we
Speaker 1: just had Mike Geronomore here, great, and that actually bothered me.
Speaker 1: The only part that bothered me was he said, the
Speaker 1: more successful he got, the more that people try to
Speaker 1: take him away from his success, and only my only
Speaker 1: evil bottle from that. Then did he say like that?
Speaker 1: I thought he did take him away from his people's
Speaker 1: pointed the flush, the flush right there. But this is
Speaker 1: not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is the more
Speaker 1: successful you come, the more rules you make. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: you gotta know that, or maybe you think you may. No,
Speaker 1: I don't know, yo, bro. I went to Impact Convention
Speaker 1: with three buses, eight nickers on each. Excuse me, eighty
Speaker 1: young days. Excuse me, thirty young days. I went to
Speaker 1: Impact Convention in Los Vegas. Excuse me, read the faduct.
Speaker 1: Remember the Impact conventions, and I don't remember. They just
Speaker 1: swarmed us that since the next event I ever have,
Speaker 1: I'm bringing my whole projects because I really can control
Speaker 1: my projects. A lot of rappers can't, and I broke
Speaker 1: them all out. So the further I got in life,
Speaker 1: I didn't follow rules. I made the rules beautiful God
Speaker 1: bless so so Mike Gus. The only thing I love you,
Speaker 1: Mike Genus. The only thing I didn't When he said
Speaker 1: the further he got, he said, they didn't try to
Speaker 1: keep him away from his people. And I didn't catch
Speaker 1: it during the end of You, but after I watched
Speaker 1: it back, I said, damn bro. Hopefully he knows that
Speaker 1: being rebellious is a part of our culture. But what
Speaker 1: did he do though? No, he said, he said, no,
Speaker 1: this is what he said. He said, the further that
Speaker 1: he got in life, the more that people wanted to
Speaker 1: take him away from his people. And I understood that's true,
Speaker 1: but I don't think that's the way he said. No,
Speaker 1: he did say, I think he was talking about money
Speaker 1: changing people. That's what he was really. Okay, that's a
Speaker 1: different part, but it's a different part. But at one
Speaker 1: point he looked at Flush and that's when he started
Speaker 1: to tear up, and he said, he said, yo, because
Speaker 1: they wanted me not to hang with him. And I
Speaker 1: was just like, damn bro, because I've never changed in
Speaker 1: twenty years. And then f and you can call me
Speaker 1: a piece of ship rap whatever, as you don't have
Speaker 1: to saying, but I've been the same god since you
Speaker 1: met me, and in fact, I might have enforced more
Speaker 1: because it's like fucking I love being around people. I
Speaker 1: don't have a house to this day becaus I love
Speaker 1: being in condos. I want to speak to Larry. I
Speaker 1: want to speak to the Larry that goes downstairs to
Speaker 1: the gym and goes to bottom water with water from
Speaker 1: the founton, like, Larry, you know you're rich. Evening else
Speaker 1: stands to the gym boy from Larry, like Larry, come here, Larry.
Speaker 1: That's who I am in life. I like to interact
Speaker 1: with people. So when I had a eight what's that
Speaker 1: ship called eight acres ship, I hated myself. I literally
Speaker 1: couldn't see people. I was like, that's not who I am. You.
Speaker 1: I didn't let it. I just have all the ship
Speaker 1: you have. I got a thousand, but I love that ship.
Speaker 1: I'll take what I do though, here's the power of
Speaker 1: the land. Like it's like you've been going to meditate
Speaker 1: and come up with creative ship and come back to
Speaker 1: the hood. I'm not in the hood, Thomas, like I
Speaker 1: have to come down, said I'd rather like I'd rather
Speaker 1: interact with others, all right, but always good right. What
Speaker 1: they tried to do to me right HPD Houston Police
Speaker 1: Department pull me over and try to get me to
Speaker 1: this on the hood, right, like, why don't you stop
Speaker 1: doing this? Why don't you all this sweet ship right
Speaker 1: and just go and and and live your life and
Speaker 1: luxury and believes you know what I told him, I
Speaker 1: rather be dead, really be dead, then this on my
Speaker 1: little ones. That's somebody I don't want to Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: exactly that's what you want. A more prapic would say,
Speaker 1: you know him my friend. Oh yeah, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. So that's one of my black tenders. Yeah,
Speaker 1: come on right, come over it. So that's that's one
Speaker 1: of my old zas. And that's the way I feel
Speaker 1: about this ship. When that adn't telling me right now,
Speaker 1: you gotta Larry Hoover number or not. I know you listen,
Speaker 1: run most solid. I can't live. I feel like everybody
Speaker 1: in the world. No, do you feel like everybody in
Speaker 1: the world uses? No, I don't. I don't allow myself
Speaker 1: to be used. I'm too short off to be used,
Speaker 1: too sore to short. Yeah, so I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: allow weak ship too like fall on me and I react.
Speaker 1: I like distinguish it immediately, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Get that ship away from me, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But when it's solid, all ride, damn you got you
Speaker 1: gotta shot out on loyalty. That's a space, lawyer. Now
Speaker 1: you want some more space, come on, God damn it.
Speaker 1: And then we go just the shot. This is a shot.
Speaker 1: We do want the shot, some lawyerty doing a champagne.
Speaker 1: He doing champagne. Don't champagne, you got damn Now it's
Speaker 1: loyalty champagne. Yeah, lord of champagne. At way, this is ship.
Speaker 1: It's the brand you got and want to put things up.
Speaker 1: This is the shot. He's gotta show. You can't buy
Speaker 1: a right and you guys take all right, this is
Speaker 1: my shot. This is loyalty. They can't buy loyal to
Speaker 1: your respect? Well yeah, no, no, none, none. You actually
Speaker 1: accomplished everything why standard game and not only stay in
Speaker 1: this game. But I could look at you and tell
Speaker 1: you still love this game like you love it? Why?
Speaker 1: You know? You know I am who I am, You
Speaker 1: know what I mean, And I don't have to like
Speaker 1: you know. That's that's who I was created to be right.
Speaker 1: So like once again, everybody got a chance and the
Speaker 1: choice every day, the choices they made determine your destination. Right,
Speaker 1: My choice is gonna real deep with with the essence
Speaker 1: of what makes me tap, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: and that that I stand on, that that makes me
Speaker 1: take that's that I'm willing to die for and everybody
Speaker 1: that's a choice. So that's what makes me who I am,
Speaker 1: That's what makes me move Accordingly, it's gonna make me happy,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, bring me joys. So I
Speaker 1: wouldn't have it no other way. So, so as an
Speaker 1: artist in distress, like when the artist comes to you
Speaker 1: and say, man, I think mab a deal ain't good
Speaker 1: or yo, I need help the home. Yeah, Is that
Speaker 1: something that you gravitate to because you know you can
Speaker 1: help them suit a lawyer, Yeah, because it's that's that's
Speaker 1: that's how I feel. I feel like you're the guy
Speaker 1: that people come to when they like it funked up
Speaker 1: and you fix them, you know what I mean, fixing
Speaker 1: up a rock. Fix I'm sorry, I make I make
Speaker 1: your words. I'm sorry. You know, we got to analyze
Speaker 1: ship where people is concerned, you know, because the reality
Speaker 1: is a lot of times with a disadvantage. I always say,
Speaker 1: you know, a motherfuckerl be on a Harley Davidson and
Speaker 1: we're being a pair of Nikes, and they'd be like,
Speaker 1: that's let's race, right, and you know they're gonna win
Speaker 1: a motherfucking race on Ali Davis and because generations of
Speaker 1: those people that taught them and gave my head start
Speaker 1: in the game this music and the ship, right, so
Speaker 1: we have to figure out a way to like balance
Speaker 1: the scale. And one of my methods of balancing and
Speaker 1: the scale was balancing and where my strength was concerned,
Speaker 1: and my strength was in a lot of motherfucking places, right,
Speaker 1: So you balance that ship and you balance it with finesse.
Speaker 1: You know, you don't balance it sloppy. You balance it
Speaker 1: with finesse to make the scale be even. Because they
Speaker 1: got edge. You know when your great grandfather your grandfather
Speaker 1: and gave you game on how to funk us, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Then that's edge. So we have
Speaker 1: to have that same game and put it on the
Speaker 1: other side or the scale to balance that ship off.
Speaker 1: That one can't complaint. Well, this show was on Revote TV,
Speaker 1: but we got to Revote TV. Box was facing something
Speaker 1: called a discrimination loss, right, like he didn't have enough
Speaker 1: white people? Yeah, did you ever face anything like that? Like, well,
Speaker 1: most definitely get out throughout my whole journey, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, discrimination took place, and uh, absolutely poor
Speaker 1: for knowing how to deal with that ship and bring
Speaker 1: on players that compliment his movement. You know what I mean,
Speaker 1: because you know a lot of people submit, you know, Amitt,
Speaker 1: you know who was saying it best right, and this
Speaker 1: might be like a little vote or whatnot, but who
Speaker 1: will say when when they try to stick a dick
Speaker 1: in your ass and you move your ass getting revenge,
Speaker 1: I'm hurt. It's like he said, you try to put
Speaker 1: a dick in your ass to the movie. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: said you were Revell, you know what I mean that,
Speaker 1: But that's like real ship, right, that's for like homeless
Speaker 1: like puff you and wasn't not to stand up you
Speaker 1: know with rip vote against rip vote, whatever the funk
Speaker 1: it might be. You know what I mean. I liked
Speaker 1: that kind of ship. Got them, got them. Let's also
Speaker 1: make noise because he said it earlier. He said that
Speaker 1: um Lobby Hoover should be coming home. And I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be honest, this is me from the outside looking in,
Speaker 1: and now I there's not a person in Chicago. I
Speaker 1: don't know one of my black family members or my
Speaker 1: Puerto Rican family member. So I'm investing in Chicago, and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tray you something. Well, fans might kill me
Speaker 1: for this. When Larry Hoover was home, Chicago was peace.
Speaker 1: When the old Jez was home, it was for peace.
Speaker 1: There's something that happened with the police structure that funked
Speaker 1: up Chicago. Because I had never seen Chicago this violence.
Speaker 1: I used to actually go to Chicago and just walk
Speaker 1: through every area. I never the one, you know, the
Speaker 1: one thing they told me, you'll put your pants leg
Speaker 1: down because I had my hair's leg go long to
Speaker 1: the left and it was like, you put your pants
Speaker 1: leg down here, And I was like what And that's
Speaker 1: by design though, you know by design too. They took
Speaker 1: the o G s out here, took all our political prisoners,
Speaker 1: you know, the past that they're strong because they understood
Speaker 1: that we had a certain amount of respect for him
Speaker 1: and that they could be somewhere to some saviors organizing
Speaker 1: figures out, you know what I mean. So it's it's
Speaker 1: no mistake as you think that's the reason why. And
Speaker 1: and you know, God bless me, you think the reason
Speaker 1: why the Texas is not out of line like that,
Speaker 1: it's like because they have U as a structure, Like
Speaker 1: everyone has that ability to say, you know what, look
Speaker 1: what Jay did, Like he came from here and he's
Speaker 1: here now, and you think that I know for a
Speaker 1: fact that's the way. So you know, I'm I'm relevant,
Speaker 1: I'm there, you know what I mean, be a community
Speaker 1: since in my community, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not one of those guys that made
Speaker 1: it and say the place I made it from and
Speaker 1: abandon it, you know what I mean. That make a difference,
Speaker 1: make a difference when you when you can walk those
Speaker 1: streets like like a lot of people got more money
Speaker 1: than me, but they don't have to respect I have.
Speaker 1: They don't have money and they don't have a largy
Speaker 1: that the homies have. So that means something to mean,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean a lot of times it may
Speaker 1: not mean something to the individual, but that ship is
Speaker 1: like meaningful to me, and it's important for us to
Speaker 1: not make it and abandon and not give back to
Speaker 1: the generation behind us. Then we turn around and ask
Speaker 1: for respect or criticize those that's coming behind us without
Speaker 1: blazing the trail, are saying it's the way you go.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? That ship is meaningful, and uh,
Speaker 1: I believe Hoover is one of those people. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna lie. I love the man who in my mind,
Speaker 1: man Who, because I'm gonna tell you something. I went
Speaker 1: to Chicago. I went to this place called Sandy's in
Speaker 1: Compete Green because I wanted, you know, so good times, bro,
Speaker 1: And I don't know if y'all ever so good time
Speaker 1: forty three. I'm like, I'm liked that line hanging from
Speaker 1: up hook was out a definitely out of know the
Speaker 1: hook to this, to this, to the intro of them
Speaker 1: to show you so good times. They I don't even
Speaker 1: remember that good So so now that's the time. I'm
Speaker 1: with my Spanish family because I'm black, and put the
Speaker 1: rigo his family and I'm like, yo, who got who
Speaker 1: the chicken? Right now? They just put their head down
Speaker 1: because they're just looking like, man, we got to go
Speaker 1: to the black side. This is my Puerto Rican side.
Speaker 1: I'm like, they're looking like we can't tell noory no.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, so, where's the Chicken Spot, Like y'all
Speaker 1: Wikipedi Green, I'm highing you mean jaj I spent Jack
Speaker 1: James from me. You know my porter we can fan
Speaker 1: at the time. They they're kind of like worried, but
Speaker 1: I kind of got the past because of who I am.
Speaker 1: But so I went and I went to Sammy's and
Speaker 1: I could just remember every black dude came. How do
Speaker 1: they fucking they see me? And they came out and
Speaker 1: then the police try to come and search me because
Speaker 1: like I forget a kind of car I had, So
Speaker 1: the police kind of coming search me, and I kill
Speaker 1: you not. Everybody from the whole project said you could
Speaker 1: search everybody, and I said it's then I was like,
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm clean. It was like fu and
Speaker 1: to the police and I said, your Chico isn't different. Yeah, late,
Speaker 1: you know, that was the last place al Capone was
Speaker 1: still operating. I don't want to get into that two months,
Speaker 1: but they're still places I go where the Air V
Speaker 1: and B they're like news the Boone House. I'm like
Speaker 1: what and they were like this back entrance. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: real Capone. I don't know about him, but who will
Speaker 1: has struggles? Who? You know what? I mean, and you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, we would do shows twenty five
Speaker 1: dollars dollard. You know what I mean. We showed up
Speaker 1: with no problem with structured and you know he was
Speaker 1: I don't we knew him just in jail. Well, I
Speaker 1: didn't know him when I'm not old enough to know
Speaker 1: when he was okay, but I met him there and
Speaker 1: uh wise, man, you know what I mean. A man
Speaker 1: that make a difference for all of us today. Do
Speaker 1: you watch the shot? The shot? The shot? I never
Speaker 1: saw that, and I shot because it's a character in
Speaker 1: the shot. Yeah, this nigga seals by himself. Dudes, come
Speaker 1: and see him, bring him a briefcase for the money,
Speaker 1: bring him a kick, yeah, and a dude. You know
Speaker 1: obviously you don't understand what happened after that, man, But
Speaker 1: every time I watched this, this character, yeah, I swear
Speaker 1: at his lar and it's the shots called the shot.
Speaker 1: So so like there's some real life ship right like
Speaker 1: one are the home is by the name Acrushia. Friend
Speaker 1: of mine just got home from prison, federal prison, came
Speaker 1: home on the first step back. And you know, of
Speaker 1: course Trump was the one that released these guys on
Speaker 1: the first step back. We've been in Trump of shore.
Speaker 1: I mean, whatever it is it is, he done what
Speaker 1: he's done. Right, So this is a brother de then
Speaker 1: came home. That's feeding the homeless. It's like on a
Speaker 1: on a positive motherfucking journey of doing good deeds in
Speaker 1: the community. He wouldn't have that opportunity if it wasn't
Speaker 1: for the first step back, if it wasn't for you know,
Speaker 1: I hate to say Trump done the ship, but he
Speaker 1: done this ship. You know what I mean. You're happy,
Speaker 1: like whatever it is, it hap to be what it is.
Speaker 1: And Julie, you don't like that, but that's okay, don't
Speaker 1: worry about it, right because I don't think. I don't
Speaker 1: know who started it, but I know you know who
Speaker 1: puts the button on the ship down. But here's like
Speaker 1: the real moral or the story. The brother is here
Speaker 1: and making moves opposite from the moves that he made
Speaker 1: years ago. He had a second chance, and he's capitalizing
Speaker 1: and being an asset to the community. Yeah, so I
Speaker 1: view that as an asset. Right. So so when I
Speaker 1: hear you know, anybody, whether it be Democrats, are Republicans,
Speaker 1: saying that these brothers don't deserve another chance at life,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean almost, Yeah, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like they want to just stump their neck
Speaker 1: till they die. Then you got to ask you this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't respect that ship. Boy, it's coming out after that.
Speaker 1: Let me let me answer that, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: because this is important, right, I'm down, I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: a republicrack. Let me see that whatever you want to public?
Speaker 1: Republican And what do that mean to me? You know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Is the motherfucker that's on the right side.
Speaker 1: I mean, who we ever on the right side and
Speaker 1: track well where my home is? That's abundance locked up
Speaker 1: forgot about you know what I mean? They don't give
Speaker 1: a funk about and giving them all that extra too
Speaker 1: much time. Who ever have a heart for them, I
Speaker 1: may ride with them, say, and I'm gonna chake the
Speaker 1: right I ride with him. I think who is that
Speaker 1: gonna be? We don't let me see the first stup
Speaker 1: acts starts build builds on the Obama started, who don't
Speaker 1: make sure that God is in places? The first ef
Speaker 1: you say your Obama? What she wanted the reference to
Speaker 1: the actor that let people out of the Probama started
Speaker 1: that she's saying and he started, and King Kardashian pushed
Speaker 1: it on Trump. And that's the reason why you didn't
Speaker 1: let that just recn come out. You know, I'm just
Speaker 1: a Republican whoever with my people, I'm ship saddle up,
Speaker 1: saddle goddamn fun, Donald Trump. It's so great. It's so
Speaker 1: great were white say that. I'm not saying that. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying like a bell that you're white. But it's
Speaker 1: great because you see the Dave Chappelle's get But Dave
Speaker 1: Chapelle is like, why are these guys broke for Donald Trump?
Speaker 1: I think so, but it's so great to feel better
Speaker 1: about life. I don't know how anyone can just watch
Speaker 1: him talk for ten minutes because you don't like that.
Speaker 1: I don't know. He just he just says the same
Speaker 1: thing over and over again with no suthing. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be honest. I'm gonna be honest. And I don't really
Speaker 1: want to say this, but other than him being racist,
Speaker 1: he is a gangster. He's just he's just waiting. Was
Speaker 1: here rand it on Queens. Ever, lame that on Quakes
Speaker 1: bro won Queens. There's not way you're gonna be a racist.
Speaker 1: I grew up with Russians, Haitians, Cubans, colors moving and
Speaker 1: wrestlers like warres. So you say Trumps, no, he's playing
Speaker 1: a row. If he's really from Queens, playing a row,
Speaker 1: there's no way. But it's like black women. You know
Speaker 1: he had a black woman. It right, Come on, y'all
Speaker 1: tell him. Y'all don't know Trump, and don't tell me
Speaker 1: Trump has been to press out. I mean no, Trump
Speaker 1: in head black puts it on. But has he been
Speaker 1: a fresh album? No? No, no, I've been You've been
Speaker 1: a trust tell me this stuff. Do you think a
Speaker 1: man could be a racist being with a black woman
Speaker 1: and grabbing, grabbing fussy, Yeah, because like like grabbing pussy
Speaker 1: is like definitely talking about going to white ship, going
Speaker 1: in and you're real well of the race, and so
Speaker 1: save your racist slave master w racist. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm just I'm just saying, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, so many girls you go black, you
Speaker 1: don't go back. He got pinched the snoop Dog twenty
Speaker 1: years ago. Trumps out of hip hop. I want more,
Speaker 1: let's get let's listen. I ain't a lot race me
Speaker 1: make calling men ask about fault like yo, check hooses
Speaker 1: a black trumpets kicking right something. I don't know if
Speaker 1: y'all keep you really, I'm not really, but really, let
Speaker 1: me tell you who I met, who I respect. No, no,
Speaker 1: no Blaine Walks And just like no, no, I love her.
Speaker 1: She She has like the biggest and that's my angel, right,
Speaker 1: but she has the biggest set a nuts that I
Speaker 1: ever than any man I ever met Maxine Walks. So
Speaker 1: for all the homies, I won't to let y'all know
Speaker 1: she's a real Democratic. Yeah, she's just she's real because
Speaker 1: when no one was standing up for me, when the
Speaker 1: Fears was trying to kill me, Maxine Water stood up
Speaker 1: California down. How kind of about mller Harris. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: start with you. You know that your whole I don't
Speaker 1: know that next scene like no disrespect to tax show. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: she's cast of gangst you know what I mean. But
Speaker 1: the fact of the matter is she, like the people
Speaker 1: that was there in Houston, wouldn't ride, but she heard
Speaker 1: the story, she understood it, and she stood up. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean. That's like against all arts what
Speaker 1: politicians are concerned, but most of them are faith you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? For one to embrace and take
Speaker 1: a stand in that ship that I was in. She
Speaker 1: standing identity? Did your boy back with dre chance We're
Speaker 1: gonna get This is a segment of our show. We
Speaker 1: just ask you a question. You just picked one of
Speaker 1: the two two options. You don't and you can skip
Speaker 1: some if you want, prefer you don't. But it's okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: you do whatever you want. So it's called quick time
Speaker 1: with slide Ready drum Are you ready? Let's go, Master
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Speaker 1: Sjae really deal Big Mike. Well, it did scar face
Speaker 1: the t I face. We're also jeezy Ross okay, jesu
Speaker 1: t Yeah, buying the Trump m hm you get this,
Speaker 1: homies out. Let me say this because you did them
Speaker 1: with two slippery individ a politician. I'm with who we are.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do right with my people. Goddam you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I'm not gonna get caught up in
Speaker 1: the matrix. But if I had to pick right now,
Speaker 1: I mean you kind of is election kind of right
Speaker 1: before James Harden or DeShawn Watson. I don't know Watson.
Speaker 1: So you're going with Jackson damn who is Watson. How
Speaker 1: I should ride with the Rockets man, Okay, because he's
Speaker 1: Houston to it. That's cloth corner that all. Oh, it's
Speaker 1: me you would watching the hell? Yeah, all right? That
Speaker 1: is Tyson or Damn Tyson the Homer, right, I know,
Speaker 1: Mike Tyson. Uh it depends. Uh, God, damn boy, y'all
Speaker 1: putting m so I got damn I league gonna ride
Speaker 1: to man I leave. You can say both, know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Well, fucking both. Then I this one you
Speaker 1: can't see boom. This is very personal to you ghetto
Speaker 1: boys a ut kid, you know, to me, that's like,
Speaker 1: that's a no brainer, you know what I mean? Because
Speaker 1: I created ghetto Bots. Yeah. I'm so still amazed at
Speaker 1: the story of you actually putting together a ghetto boys project,
Speaker 1: putting it out at this saying you know what I like,
Speaker 1: it's like the first gangster Backstreet Boys. Yeah, but you
Speaker 1: know what it was? The difference was I was focused
Speaker 1: on another hustle and somebody else was dealing with one
Speaker 1: set of ghetto boards, and then I came in and
Speaker 1: emphasized my mind set on the other set of ghetto boards,
Speaker 1: which the other ghetto boys couldn't relate to So I'm like,
Speaker 1: y'all go, you know, I'm embraced the neo. What is
Speaker 1: that the other getting boys end up doing? Falling apart?
Speaker 1: I mean ship didn't it died from there. One of
Speaker 1: them got a murder case and went to jail, and uh,
Speaker 1: the others went different ways. This was my last question.
Speaker 1: Loyalty or respect, anything you gotta say, come out of
Speaker 1: the door. Um. When your name came up, basically and
Speaker 1: I was, I was young, Yeah, it was always a
Speaker 1: saying of someone with the flies on the can't land
Speaker 1: in certain people's hood without checking in. Yeah, so I
Speaker 1: think checking in not no flies on, but check basically,
Speaker 1: just if he was a rapp or use anybody, you
Speaker 1: couldn't just come to anybody's hood. Yeah, So I just
Speaker 1: want to know if any made explain You can explain
Speaker 1: more about that light. Yeah, I can explain that. Uh.
Speaker 1: The j Prince, now I was different than the Jake
Speaker 1: Prince and the twenties. When I was twenty something, thirties facts,
Speaker 1: and it was the thing, right, I was dealing with
Speaker 1: a different challenge, you know. Back when I started, I
Speaker 1: was dealing with a situation where New York DJ's was
Speaker 1: in my city monopolizing the radio station, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. I had to deal with that ship, right,
Speaker 1: and that's just the way it was. I was like
Speaker 1: like that, So you know what I had to do
Speaker 1: was and I respected Hustle because they was representing and
Speaker 1: felt like nothing but New York should be played in Houston,
Speaker 1: you know, That's it. Everything else was country and wasn't qualified.
Speaker 1: So I had to get creative. I had to like
Speaker 1: figure out how to change that ship because I feel
Speaker 1: like we deserved a chance. Motherfucker's didn't like us, then, Okay,
Speaker 1: I knew how to accept that, but give us a chance,
Speaker 1: and uh, ultimately they led to I had to run
Speaker 1: them out the city, you know what I mean, because
Speaker 1: they were real with New York. It's like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is all ship, this is what we represent, right, So
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I respect that, but you can't represent
Speaker 1: it here to day, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: so my mindset, you know what I mean, to change
Speaker 1: that ship around and to give us a chance and
Speaker 1: to play the trail for the Homers in Houston and
Speaker 1: the South to be heard came down to moving them
Speaker 1: out of the position of power. So therefore I had
Speaker 1: to fight like a whole movement of even coming to
Speaker 1: the city, you know what I mean. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna fight this whole motherfucker, right, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, y'all are not gonna bear to send truths
Speaker 1: here to you know, infiftra infiltrate the camp and get
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, your well implemented on what
Speaker 1: you want to do. I'm gonna like shut this whole
Speaker 1: ship down until y'all give us a chance. So that
Speaker 1: happened back then, right, So we moved from back then
Speaker 1: up until right now. Right now. You know, I'm a
Speaker 1: different man. Ship has changed, you know, respect that's been
Speaker 1: given the South has been giving their chance and you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, they're doing their ship. So I
Speaker 1: no longer you know, when I was a child, I
Speaker 1: thought as a child, you know now you know what
Speaker 1: the man So I don't have to like, you know,
Speaker 1: infiltrate that same ship. So I don't I don't care
Speaker 1: who come in and see that's on there like like
Speaker 1: like it comes to I was no flies. One wasn't
Speaker 1: well you know that A lot of the guys, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Look, you know I want to
Speaker 1: I want where and they wanted me to know, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, because it let me to sell
Speaker 1: you the reality of that ship. When I didn't know
Speaker 1: and you showed up, then it wasn't as invited as
Speaker 1: it was when I knew, because when I knew I
Speaker 1: was a allied, when you knew that, and I was
Speaker 1: able to like tell home is old, like he this
Speaker 1: and that. But when you just showed up with some strays,
Speaker 1: then people like, oh, that's that's food, and people did
Speaker 1: people didn't know Texas was about it about like ship
Speaker 1: was that's first or further, Let's just be clear. Every
Speaker 1: year in New York and to turn the ange degrees,
Speaker 1: people get killed his name place all year round. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: get over to get over all over the world. Get
Speaker 1: a boys, you know what I mean. A lot of
Speaker 1: people try to like they get confused about what's happening,
Speaker 1: but that should be solid all over man, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. It's just a it's about who have
Speaker 1: the best structure in the situation is what makes the difference.
Speaker 1: And I'm a dude, have been government and took Houston,
Speaker 1: Texas twenty two, twenty three, twenty four years, maybe just
Speaker 1: to take it to twenties to stop them, maybe not
Speaker 1: beat it. I've never had a problem, but I've always
Speaker 1: hit one of his people, say y'allah. They always just
Speaker 1: had me then, like YO, were gonna go out of
Speaker 1: here more? You're going on the motherfucking what's my ship?
Speaker 1: What's my favorite? Rest of one? Papa? Tell me, my boy?
Speaker 1: We already that I've never had a problem. I never
Speaker 1: never felt I think people feel like when they check in, oh,
Speaker 1: they hollered the homeliness, and they're supposed to holler that
Speaker 1: they are soccer and that's corny because Mr, I don't know.
Speaker 1: You come on the left frack pupposed to hit young
Speaker 1: really supposed to hit me because we will. We take
Speaker 1: pride and taking kids. Who are you coming to the
Speaker 1: right cheesebird again? You went to the wrong cheese verus.
Speaker 1: That's all. You gotta fucking stomach game. Some talk talk
Speaker 1: to y'all that something wrong make you. I've never made
Speaker 1: you whack. And all these dudes out there, I've never
Speaker 1: felt foul at all, Like landing the same y'a. I'm
Speaker 1: here and they'd be like, all right, cool. Sometimes they
Speaker 1: see the person and sometimes they know I'm good. I
Speaker 1: pave my whole nape hoving me anyway. But I never
Speaker 1: felt bad about that, so I wanted to reiterate that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what you're supposed to do when you go nothing.
Speaker 1: It's your choice. It's your choice, like big you, big you,
Speaker 1: the homing like we we see out of on a
Speaker 1: lot of ships. So but it once again, it's your choice.
Speaker 1: Some some dudes feel like they're Superman. Just come to town,
Speaker 1: you know pretty much. I mean like, I don't try
Speaker 1: to impose my wheel on one way at up, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? You know, do what you do,
Speaker 1: what you do, taking that shout of you. Yeah, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't really drink a whole water on
Speaker 1: other wine. A little bit, a little didn't killed that
Speaker 1: ship dn't killed him. Jude Beverly I got in. This
Speaker 1: story is the only story I hate it you ever,
Speaker 1: And it's never been growing up and drinks. To be honest,
Speaker 1: I say I never brought it up. It's gonna go
Speaker 1: up there with your condom story. It's a big story.
Speaker 1: Let's go the real story, your old old man, the
Speaker 1: old love you girl said that she's I ain't even
Speaker 1: remember she said she ate my ass. Did not like
Speaker 1: that it was my wife is here right now fourteen
Speaker 1: years if I wanted in my ass ain't trust me?
Speaker 1: She even know she's never so some girls and lie
Speaker 1: on me and you left her loss. That's gonna master p.
Speaker 1: Well that was the point of that story everything. I
Speaker 1: didn't like it. We did have a disclaimer with that
Speaker 1: saying hey, we can't really it was like, you know,
Speaker 1: I was told by other people that the stories well particular,
Speaker 1: but just some people cross reference to now he doesn't
Speaker 1: sun't do to be confessional little. Some people say I
Speaker 1: got back you. He just listen, he just closed. Listen.
Speaker 1: He has a curs, he has a conser story and
Speaker 1: he hates to telling ser story. But don't listen to Julia,
Speaker 1: You've always been that. I apologizes here confession. I did
Speaker 1: that because they really really wasn't true. And listen, I
Speaker 1: missed some ground. Do some crazy shit in my wife
Speaker 1: like we does a crazy But look, Jaference, this is
Speaker 1: a command. Do you live everly and fucking Jay Prince.
Speaker 1: This is one of my favorite moments. I every moment
Speaker 1: about this because it's real. We sat hands and kicked it.
Speaker 1: I've never seen a motherfucker eating lamb still be as
Speaker 1: cool to speak. You big that Shi was smooth said,
Speaker 1: I was like, you hate the rist. Fuck you asked
Speaker 1: so much. Why let's take a picture picture with Jay
Speaker 1: first and y'all tone then before. Okay, just so we
Speaker 1: did my ration. I'm not run that. Sorry, he's gonna start.
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