Speaker 1: I am all in you.
Speaker 2: I am all in with Scott Patterson, an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1: Everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in podcast And guys,
Speaker 1: what what is this? Is? Season five, episode eleven ten?
Speaker 1: What is it? Eleven eleven eleven?
Speaker 2: Okay, so wait really fast before you go. When can
Speaker 2: we see Sullivan's crossing September October?
Speaker 1: In the fall? I don't know when that's going to
Speaker 1: be September October, but it's going to be on Wednesday nights.
Speaker 1: I think it's, oh, you know, the night Wednesday nights. Yes,
Speaker 1: in the fall. A couple of things to report. Delta
Speaker 1: Airlines found my like a monthly so the suit survives? No, no, John,
Speaker 1: this was this was John Barbados, this was this is
Speaker 1: It's a different.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, well, Scott, you wear this thing from the gap.
Speaker 2: It's fine.
Speaker 1: You're gonna make it work. It's not about that.
Speaker 3: Did it just show up on your doorstep?
Speaker 1: No? No, no, I mean I had to fill out a
Speaker 1: form online, you know, bag and plead and send money
Speaker 1: and send donations. But Delta they came through. I was
Speaker 1: very very pleased.
Speaker 2: Is the crack staff on strike?
Speaker 1: No? No, they're still in uh Borla they're still in fishing. Look,
Speaker 1: they've worked their tushies off. Come on. They they stare
Speaker 1: at screens all day looking for inconsistencies and mistakes. So
Speaker 1: I sent them to bor. There's still there. Yeah, I have.
Speaker 2: A new clown pillow for this one, which I'll tell
Speaker 2: you guys. Yeah, boys, new boy.
Speaker 1: So let's get into this. Danielle, Danielle, take daniel Away. Synopsizing.
Speaker 1: By the way, this Synopsizing International Synopsizers Association. The ISSA
Speaker 1: has awarded Danielle honorable mention Best New Artist. It's a
Speaker 1: big honor. We're very thrilled. We threw our big party.
Speaker 2: That is so funny.
Speaker 4: I love it all right. This is season five, Episode eleven,
Speaker 4: Women of Questionable Morals Air dates January twenty fifth, two
Speaker 4: thousand and four. Loreali's warm regard for snow turns frosty
Speaker 4: after several mishaps, and Rory continues to give her dad
Speaker 4: the cold shoulder until she learns his father has passed away.
Speaker 4: Laurel I spends time confronting Christopher but keeps it from Lukeyikes,
Speaker 4: and Richard and Emily find a lost dog. First of all,
Speaker 4: I loved this episode.
Speaker 2: How happy are we that Richard and Emily.
Speaker 4: I'm happy for the dog. I'm happy for them. I'm
Speaker 4: happy for Lorli and Rory. Like the only one I'm
Speaker 4: not happy for is Luke because he's getting kind of
Speaker 4: fooled in this episode a little.
Speaker 2: I know, we need to debate that because then he
Speaker 2: built an ice rink.
Speaker 1: Yeah, something, something bad's coming, right, I kind of feel
Speaker 1: like they boinked after all their tequila. Is that is
Speaker 1: that the case that she.
Speaker 2: No, no, I didn't get.
Speaker 1: That isn't coming. Isn't that like a bad thing.
Speaker 2: Well, we'll see what happens, but they I don't not Ye.
Speaker 1: That's like for me. I was waiting for the next
Speaker 1: shoe to drop, and I thought that was it shrink
Speaker 1: And then the next episode, by the way, Luke I
Speaker 1: slept with himrcas, Oh that's not coming, all right, Well
Speaker 1: I don't want to know.
Speaker 2: Well, we're not going to tell you. But yeah, because
Speaker 2: I've been reprimanded about I've been reprimanded about spoilers, and.
Speaker 4: So protect my precious ears, please.
Speaker 2: Hippy my lippy. I know they were like Danielle, don't
Speaker 2: read these calls.
Speaker 4: I don't for the record, because of spoilers. I just
Speaker 4: don't unless I'm tagged in it and it comes up
Speaker 4: in my feet.
Speaker 5: I do not look at anything nothing.
Speaker 2: I read them. But I would like to begin with
Speaker 2: that question for Scott Patterson, what is harder to play
Speaker 2: sleepy or drunk drunk?
Speaker 1: Both are hard, both are not. Yeah, it's it's really.
Speaker 2: Do they ever let actors actually drink to play drunk?
Speaker 1: No, you can't do that because then you'd have to
Speaker 1: drink all day or drink for three or four hours.
Speaker 4: I feel like Scott's told us this before, that the
Speaker 4: key to playing drunk is playing super sober.
Speaker 1: Is that you're trying to be straight.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Right, So really, all it takes is if there's movement,
Speaker 1: just one little misstep and then the audience gets it.
Speaker 1: That's all that's all you need to do. It's it's
Speaker 1: not like movement all over the place. It's just it's
Speaker 1: just a little wobble. It's just a little it's a
Speaker 1: little slur. It's not on every other word.
Speaker 6: It's not like, well, although some nights are like that,
Speaker 6: they wouldn't be far off.
Speaker 1: You know. It's not Foster Brooks. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's a little.
Speaker 2: More playing sleepy is so hard because you have so
Speaker 2: little experience of knowing what being sleepy is because you're asleep.
Speaker 1: The silliest thing I've ever heard.
Speaker 2: Because you have to play asleep. Do you think he
Speaker 2: nailed it?
Speaker 1: I don't know that was the beginning, Yeah, I thought so, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you think I had too much energy coming out of
Speaker 1: the bed.
Speaker 2: Well, so okay, because here's my thing. Don't I go
Speaker 2: from zero to one hundred? Right, So like I'm never
Speaker 2: like oak up, I'm just like hello, like because my
Speaker 2: phone will ring.
Speaker 1: Well, no, that's the thing. He's he's a guy who
Speaker 1: is he's not a big sleeper anyway, right, He's a
Speaker 1: guy who wakes up really early. He wakes up when
Speaker 1: it's dark out, and he gets going. So he's he's,
Speaker 1: you know, used to this. His body is engineered that
Speaker 1: way at this point. It's he's trained his body to
Speaker 1: get up early and and and endure the entire day
Speaker 1: and then just like take a little cat nap at
Speaker 1: night and then wake up and get it do it again.
Speaker 2: So I actually thought that opening was sweet. She's very
Speaker 2: excited about the snow, and he's grouchy, but going along
Speaker 2: with it.
Speaker 7: I like, what they brought this back from I think
Speaker 7: it was season one where she's like, I smell snow,
Speaker 7: Like I love that week get that because I think
Speaker 7: I don't think we got it last season.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think so either. And what I loved
Speaker 2: is her coat.
Speaker 4: And another skinny scarf totally doesn't keep you warm at all.
Speaker 2: And did you notice she doesn't totally hold his hand
Speaker 2: in it? She kind of holds his coat kind of
Speaker 2: like how you would like holding his coat, and like
Speaker 2: they're kind of going out there. I thought it was cute.
Speaker 1: He was he was a crank face. I thought he
Speaker 1: was a bit of a crank fast.
Speaker 2: I like when you said, Kimmy Listen Live at five
Speaker 2: said no snow and then just sprinkles snow.
Speaker 4: I love a fresh snow, Like, are you guys snow?
Speaker 4: People like, does it make you excited?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I think Danielle's because we didn't grow up
Speaker 3: in it too.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2: I grew up in it. It's exhaust me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I see the people who grew up with it
Speaker 3: don't like it.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I grew up with it.
Speaker 2: Yes, Scott's a total ski snow guy where I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: it's exhausting.
Speaker 1: You can't get off, I mean lifts close at three
Speaker 1: thirty or something. You can't get me off the hell?
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm like still like, I'm like, I've done two runs.
Speaker 1: Let me go up one more time, just one more front.
Speaker 2: Your opposite, I'm like, I've done two runs. Is it over?
Speaker 2: And I don't have a car port, so I have
Speaker 2: to shovel.
Speaker 1: Oh man, you're right there.
Speaker 2: I have to shovel snow off my car. And let
Speaker 2: me tell you that is a workout like nothing like
Speaker 2: you know the scene where you guys are shoveling the
Speaker 2: snow off the car and the tree fell.
Speaker 4: The mold you felt that and Lola was punching the snow.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's exhausting for anyone that lives in snow.
Speaker 1: To live in it, you know, but to vacation one, Yeah, totally.
Speaker 1: You just need a heated driveway in a garage problem. Okay,
Speaker 1: you can't live in snow country with that or heated garage.
Speaker 2: I don't even have a covered garage a carport. My
Speaker 2: car building buried. First of all, you're not allowed where
Speaker 2: I live. But also I don't have them. But anyway,
Speaker 2: you don't have Jimmy.
Speaker 1: Mountains two of your houses. You have fifteen of them.
Speaker 1: One of the I love them.
Speaker 2: I love when you were shouting out the weather guys
Speaker 2: Jimmy Mountain because really and truly in l A, there's
Speaker 2: a guy named Johnny Mountains.
Speaker 1: Mountain drink water.
Speaker 2: Oh god, okay, so the only theF what what when
Speaker 2: it's snowing outside the diner? But yet it's sunny. That's
Speaker 2: not totally like if it's snowing, it's usually kind of gray.
Speaker 2: So it's very sunny. But then there was snow which
Speaker 2: I can't remember. Is it soap? What was the fakes?
Speaker 1: Paper? Oh? Paper, it's tiny, tiny paper.
Speaker 3: Yeah, such a messic clean up.
Speaker 1: They just suck it up with that giant vacuum you
Speaker 1: have it.
Speaker 2: Soap seems easier when we do spake snow at jingle Ball.
Speaker 3: It's soap, it's so yeah.
Speaker 1: Sure, but because you don't have to do as much.
Speaker 2: No, not at all. So okay, So we're off to
Speaker 2: the race.
Speaker 1: Plus the soap bubbles and that crowd loves to see
Speaker 1: champagne bubbles and it gets they get their drink on,
Speaker 1: so you know you're not going to drive.
Speaker 2: They do all that spake snow that's on the ground,
Speaker 2: like outside the Gilmour's house.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's just that's like foam. Oh really, it's like foam.
Speaker 5: Looked good, Yeah, it did, look at it.
Speaker 1: They do. They do a great job. When you get
Speaker 1: on set, it actually looks like real snow, and then
Speaker 1: you want to go run and jump in it, and
Speaker 1: they're like, no, don't do that.
Speaker 3: We want it.
Speaker 2: Although it's probably hot out and you're like in all that,
Speaker 2: like acting like you're cold.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's one hundred degrees and this is what you're
Speaker 1: you're dealing with. Yes, you're freezing, which actually works. It
Speaker 1: does cool you down. If you do a sense memory,
Speaker 1: like you're sitting on a block of ice naked, you
Speaker 1: can lower your body temperature.
Speaker 2: You know what I thought of you the other day
Speaker 2: because I was doing active listening. I try to be
Speaker 2: a good listener. I actually try what I try to,
Speaker 2: like show I'm listening, so ask a question and then
Speaker 2: it just seems like I'm talking, but I'm trying to.
Speaker 1: I know you're a very good listener. You can't You're
Speaker 1: you're an expert conversationalist, so you have to be a
Speaker 1: good listener.
Speaker 2: I try.
Speaker 1: So, how were you actively listening.
Speaker 2: I was like hearing them and engaged and hearing them
Speaker 2: and like engaged in it actively listening.
Speaker 1: And then and then he got really bored and went
Speaker 1: back to the old way, said screw it, I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna think of.
Speaker 2: How long lasting. Oh god, wait, So so we go
Speaker 2: to the diner and there's just this table old cats,
Speaker 2: which at first I was like, they weren't talking a lot,
Speaker 2: and I was a little over my head. I have
Speaker 2: a couple complaints in this episode because I also could
Speaker 2: not understand Michelle was talking so fast.
Speaker 1: It was hard to it was hard to understand him.
Speaker 3: I was like, I don't I did fel faster than usual.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, I can't here. So you got
Speaker 2: the guys at the table. We obviously knew there was
Speaker 2: going to be reenactment in this because in the recap
Speaker 2: they always give you a sort of a glimpse of
Speaker 2: what you're going to see. So this is where I
Speaker 2: thought it was snowing, and it was also sunny. But anyway,
Speaker 2: here's my new clown pillow. Who's ready for it? Ready
Speaker 2: the mug Cubbies. I feel like we need to shout
Speaker 2: out the mug puppies. Do you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 4: Yes, I know mug cuppies.
Speaker 3: I think what you're talking about.
Speaker 2: Okay, they have their own cubbies, and I just think
Speaker 2: it deserves a like a tip of the hat every time.
Speaker 1: We're going to do the whole post on it. It's
Speaker 1: going to be great. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, was there a specific mug you sorry, just calling.
Speaker 2: All the mug coming. Oh yeah, there was a good shot.
Speaker 2: So I was happy to see Taylor. How about you guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's finally breath of fresh air. Yeah, and he
Speaker 1: was funny as funny as he could possibly.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I thought it was a welcome return. Okay. So and
Speaker 2: I did think it was funny because even though I
Speaker 2: was having a hard time following what all those guys
Speaker 2: were talking about, when Luke says trying not to walk
Speaker 2: too sexy, when Flora LII goes out, that was good.
Speaker 1: That was good.
Speaker 2: So then we get right away Emily's on the phone
Speaker 2: and she sees the dog, so that they gave that
Speaker 2: to us right away.
Speaker 5: It was so cute.
Speaker 2: Bay, I just love I'm so happy. Sorry, that was
Speaker 2: a very I'm so happy that there they seem to
Speaker 2: be getting along.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this was really Richard and Emily's episode, wasn't it.
Speaker 2: Yes, I didn't realize how much I hated them.
Speaker 1: Not it looks like the icebergs are melting.
Speaker 2: I felt that, hmmm. And they were so kind to
Speaker 2: each other, like they feel like they're on their way back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he went out fire pos, that was just what
Speaker 3: I was about to say, and he's.
Speaker 2: All, is it a rabid dog? It's not frowling at.
Speaker 1: The mill and the dog is that?
Speaker 7: Well, then throughout the episode, most of it, they just
Speaker 7: called the dog.
Speaker 4: It yeah, and we just kept saying it. I'm like,
Speaker 4: it's a dog.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I just love that it's the Internet that they're
Speaker 2: learning the Internet, and it looked like the old timiest internet.
Speaker 2: And then he's like showing her the Louis Bhuton website.
Speaker 2: I don't even know if Louis Bouton had a website
Speaker 2: back then.
Speaker 1: Well they did otherwise the health could they put it
Speaker 1: in the show?
Speaker 2: There was a lot it was a while I think
Speaker 2: now I don't I don't want to speak out of school,
Speaker 2: but there was quite a while before you could buy
Speaker 2: Louis Boutona on the internet.
Speaker 4: But maybe it was just like a catalog, like this
Speaker 4: is all Yeah, our product shopping store or something.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just love that they're very much going back and
Speaker 2: forth to the house, to the pool house coming up,
Speaker 2: you know. Okay, okay. So then we go to the
Speaker 2: scene where I couldn't understand most of it with Michelle
Speaker 2: and Lorelai. But I did catch Jack Frost nipping at
Speaker 2: my nose and he said, Jack, I don't care. But yeah,
Speaker 2: why Scott, Why was it so hard to understand? Was
Speaker 2: it because he wasn't facing camera?
Speaker 1: Was it because it was back having sound issues?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I could not hear him, and I.
Speaker 1: Think that was I think that was it was. It
Speaker 1: was an issue throughout the entire episode because you know,
Speaker 1: the beginning, the opening, a lot of laurelized lines were
Speaker 1: looped and you can tell, and I think some of
Speaker 1: mine were too, And I think that that happened throughout
Speaker 1: the show, and that's going to happen when there's a
Speaker 1: snowmaker going and a little buzzy totally whatever. So you're
Speaker 1: going to come in and you're going to do you're
Speaker 1: going to a d R. A lot of the dialogue
Speaker 1: that you did.
Speaker 2: I don't know how they match it. You know, it's interesting.
Speaker 2: My Nieces.
Speaker 1: We stand there in front of a giant screen and
Speaker 1: we see our scene before us, and we match the.
Speaker 2: Rhythm and so hard.
Speaker 3: That's so hard.
Speaker 1: It's it's actually a lot easier than you think to
Speaker 1: sort of get the basics down, but to get it
Speaker 1: perfectly the tone and of the scene, because it can
Speaker 1: be too brighter, too muddy. That's the hard part.
Speaker 2: Too brighter, too muddy. Can you explain that.
Speaker 1: If you put too much energy in your voice at
Speaker 1: that particular time in the scene, it can really right
Speaker 1: or if it's too muddy, if it's too underplayed, then
Speaker 1: it can also alter the meaning.
Speaker 2: Would like this, Okay, so say on my mouse going
Speaker 2: like a B C D right, But if I'm looping
Speaker 2: and I go heys like like that, that's that's gonna
Speaker 2: be bad.
Speaker 1: But it's really it's you know what. A lot of
Speaker 1: it is the room tone. So what they do is
Speaker 1: after a scene is over and they know there's going
Speaker 1: to be some sound challenges, they say, everybody stand still,
Speaker 1: everybody be quiet. We got to get some room tone.
Speaker 1: So the sound up in the air and he gets
Speaker 1: he records that tone of the room in total silence.
Speaker 1: Room has a distinctive sound to it, even when nothing
Speaker 1: is going on in there. Okay, there's a hollow this,
Speaker 1: so there's an echoek vibe to whatever it is, a
Speaker 1: muted vibe. That's the hard That's when you can tell
Speaker 1: that somebody's done a DR because it's very difficult to
Speaker 1: match room tones when you're doing a DR.
Speaker 2: And then they lay under the ad R.
Speaker 1: Correct.
Speaker 2: Wow, fascinating. That's interesting, interesting because yeah, I had a
Speaker 2: really hard time understanding Michelle. And this is where Danielle
Speaker 2: she's still wearing the same coat with the skinny scarf.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he did have a funny line about bankruptcy will
Speaker 2: be funny. He had funny lines. So all this what
Speaker 2: was gonna say? My nieces love Gilmourt girls And they
Speaker 2: watch it with the closed captioning on the audio's up,
Speaker 2: but the close captioning is on the word.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: Oh, I think people may do that.
Speaker 4: Right, that's still a trend, even like on Instagram videos,
Speaker 4: everyone captions.
Speaker 2: Yeah fine by me. So Suki was a little bit
Speaker 2: grouchy for me in this episode.
Speaker 4: Yeah was she in this?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Just grouchy with the coffee.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the coffee.
Speaker 1: Here's my thing about that. It's like, just go out
Speaker 1: and send to go get some coffee.
Speaker 4: It's like, right, and how would Lurlai ever not.
Speaker 1: Just go somebody can go out and do a coffee run.
Speaker 2: First of all, this was my thought too. Luke's is
Speaker 2: like eight.
Speaker 1: Stuffs from the right, send somebody to get coffee.
Speaker 2: And also when she I know we're not there yet,
Speaker 2: but when she was drinking old other people's coffee.
Speaker 1: O my god, that made me get that was foul.
Speaker 2: Really, because there's Backwatch and I were having a call
Speaker 2: last night because we stumbled upon the TikTok that explains
Speaker 2: why you should never use the cure eg in your
Speaker 2: hotel room.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, because there's just mold and gross stuff people.
Speaker 7: Like people do disgusting what to it, Like, I can
Speaker 7: never look at a cure egg ever the same.
Speaker 2: I'm never never TikTok said, because people are so weird
Speaker 2: they do weird stuff.
Speaker 4: Or really gross like we need to come on INSTAGRAOM.
Speaker 2: I know this is a lot of work with Somebody
Speaker 2: needs to do Danielle's face cam because Danielle's face to
Speaker 2: everything we say is like she's just making somebody do that,
Speaker 2: please please, okay, And they put nair in the shampoo.
Speaker 2: Never use the shampoo thing.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I used That's one thing I do use.
Speaker 2: You can use it. That TikTok said, if it has
Speaker 2: a lock on it, there's some sort of lock on it.
Speaker 3: All my own, And yeah, I bring my own.
Speaker 7: But one time I ran out of shampoo and I
Speaker 7: did use it and the pump wasn't coming out and
Speaker 7: I tried to open it and it doesn't open.
Speaker 2: So I think those you can use.
Speaker 7: Because yeah, yeah, so I didn't realize people lock the
Speaker 7: people lock them.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, how much of a heart attack would
Speaker 2: you have if you washed your hair in the air.
Speaker 1: I've left most of my hair in a holiday and
Speaker 1: dream over the years. So now I get it. Now
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 2: Did anyone notice in Suki's kitchen there was like a
Speaker 2: snowman in the corner. That kitchen was so filled with
Speaker 2: so many food, delicious food.
Speaker 1: I don't even remember her being in this episode.
Speaker 2: It was fun sne she was so groudchy she was
Speaker 2: in two because she's in this one, and then later
Speaker 2: she was horrified by the coffee.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I remember that scene. I I she was
Speaker 1: my spirit animal in that scene because it was like
Speaker 1: put it down. Gross, She's like, you're discussed, yeah right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: So then we go to the dorm and Paris is
Speaker 2: on the phone with Sea Spam, which, even though Paris
Speaker 2: is being cuckoo, I was like the fact that she's
Speaker 2: trying to get through the Sea Spam, she's always up.
Speaker 2: And then Christopher showed up, just un poor Christopher totally unhid.
Speaker 7: Painful scene and like, also, Rory's not going to ditch class,
Speaker 7: like out of all people to ditch, she could have
Speaker 7: been nicer, but like yeah, yeah, like she could have
Speaker 7: been nicer for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go to let's let's ditch a couple of
Speaker 1: Yale classes to go have breakfast with my underachiever, distant father. Right,
Speaker 1: let's do that.
Speaker 4: I can appreciate him like trying to make an effort.
Speaker 4: But then but then I just like took it right
Speaker 4: back because he was just making it all about himself.
Speaker 4: Like I wish he just kind of was like, I
Speaker 4: miss you. I recognize this disconnect between us, and I
Speaker 4: want to fix it. Like I wish he just went
Speaker 4: that way instead of being like my dad is sick
Speaker 4: and like I'm not friends with him, so I want
Speaker 4: to be friends with you, and you know, like all
Speaker 4: the all these things, he was just making it about
Speaker 4: himself versus like like being genuine, authentic to his daughters.
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 4: Likedation, right, Yeah, I don't know. I just kind of
Speaker 4: like I liked that he showed up, and then I
Speaker 4: immediately took it back within like ten seconds because I
Speaker 4: was just like, this guy is just ugh, he's really
Speaker 4: and I'm a Christopher fan and this the season is
Speaker 4: just not doing it on any fever.
Speaker 2: I feel like he's just trying to make things right.
Speaker 2: But I'm a Christopher fan too, so I might see
Speaker 2: him with rose colored glasses because people really hate him,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, hmm, I think he's trying to make
Speaker 2: it right. It's trying to sort it out, maybe in
Speaker 2: the wrong way.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think he knows something about Christopher
Speaker 1: standing in the doorway that makes me want to punch him.
Speaker 4: Just in general, like this season, whenever he pops up
Speaker 4: on screen, I'm just like, bop, Yeah, this season.
Speaker 2: God, do you hate Christopher? How do you feel about Christopher?
Speaker 1: Just a, I don't know, he's just kind of spineless
Speaker 1: character written.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he's spineless.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree with that.
Speaker 1: Spineless character. What can you what can you say? He's
Speaker 1: deficient in so many ways, just a kid a privilege
Speaker 1: who just sort of threw it all away, you know,
Speaker 1: made a mistake, didn't I guess he wanted to take responsibility,
Speaker 1: but I don't know. Uh, you just but the story
Speaker 1: needs somebody like that, This this dynamic needs a CHRISTI
Speaker 1: yeah better and that Laurel I can look better.
Speaker 2: Right, and someone that Laurela is so drawn to.
Speaker 1: I mean, many people who have people in their lives
Speaker 1: that they know are just sort of like, you know,
Speaker 1: that's if I get on that ship. It's the Titanic,
Speaker 1: we're going down. But I still can't stop myself from
Speaker 1: getting on that ship.
Speaker 2: When and when we get to it, don't let me
Speaker 2: forget to make I have like an idea on the
Speaker 2: whole them going to Christopher's house, but we'll get to that.
Speaker 2: So then we go back to the inn and Laurel i'
Speaker 2: is on the phone. I think maybe about the cancelation stuff,
Speaker 2: but what stood out to me is she looks real
Speaker 2: good and brown that brown short sleeves turtle neck sweater.
Speaker 2: I've literally been on the Internet googling neck, short sleeved
Speaker 2: sweaters and it's not easy there, it's not easy. So
Speaker 2: and she was wearing brown, brown, brown pants.
Speaker 3: Brown anyway, it's back in, back in style, a lot
Speaker 3: of browns.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna have to go for that. And then
Speaker 2: Michelle is stuffed shoveling and we find out Michelle has
Speaker 2: a date. But I sort of just wasn't that wasn't
Speaker 2: my favorite parts.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe it was because I was still like I can't hear.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I spent a lot of time in the end. The
Speaker 1: sound wasn't great, so it was like.
Speaker 2: Gold farbs are missing, and I'm like, they're missing. They
Speaker 2: went They're a wall, they went cross coundersing. I don't know.
Speaker 2: It wasn't It was all fine, but it wasn't my
Speaker 2: favorite parts.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, it was like filler scenes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the leftover coffee and it was funny when she
Speaker 2: said I'm ashamed of you. That was fine, but like
Speaker 2: that was where I was just like, isn't Luke's literally
Speaker 2: right there? Like you don't need to eat backashed or
Speaker 2: drink back Yeah.
Speaker 5: If anyone's gonna find Laura coffee, it's going.
Speaker 1: To be Laura, Like it's right, right, sends Caesar over
Speaker 1: with some like a bunch of coffees, and.
Speaker 2: Isn't her house like four steps away? Also, yeah, it's
Speaker 2: like that was a little bit like really, the Emily
Speaker 2: and Richard stuff to me in this episode is a
Speaker 2: ten out of ten. I love.
Speaker 1: Let's throw a flag. Let's thrown flags on the play
Speaker 1: throw it. I just threw it.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, okay throw You mean about the coffee? Yeah,
Speaker 2: about the coffee. Yeah, it's like Emily Richard's stuff.
Speaker 4: Oh well, So I do have one thing I wanted
Speaker 4: to mention, and I forgot to just rewind a scene
Speaker 4: before this when we're talking when Christopher is at Yale
Speaker 4: and he gives he gives Rory coffee and he goes,
Speaker 4: I don't know how you like her coffee, but here
Speaker 4: you go and just throws like all the sugar and
Speaker 4: stuffy her and I'm like, I don't know. I just
Speaker 4: found that very purposeful because Laurla knows how Rory wants
Speaker 4: likes her coffee, you know, like, but her dad doesn't like.
Speaker 4: I felt like that was like purposely inserted there to
Speaker 4: like show that know much about it doesn't.
Speaker 2: I don't totally think I know how my boyfriend takes
Speaker 2: his coffee. You know how your husband takes his coffe?
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, four shot iced Americano, Oh wow, on
Speaker 4: fat milk.
Speaker 2: We don't really drink coffee. So maybe that's why, Scott.
Speaker 2: Do you know how your wife takes her coffee.
Speaker 1: She doesn't drink a lot of coffee. She's a tea drinker.
Speaker 2: Same. I think that's the thing if you're not, but.
Speaker 4: It's yeah, but it's something that's so important to Rory,
Speaker 4: Like she drinks coffee, that's for her.
Speaker 1: She takes her coffee when she does drink it.
Speaker 8: Yeah, you've been married for like one hundred years too,
Speaker 8: so okay.
Speaker 1: Sorry, best years of my life.
Speaker 2: And I knew that we're oyay, so we knew Christopher
Speaker 2: was gonna be outside that class. So it was like
Speaker 2: that that was where the coffee scene was. So Danielle,
Speaker 2: you actually weren't reversing. We hadn't quite Okay, So you're fine,
Speaker 2: That's what I'm here for. So I also thought Yale
Speaker 2: looked fake. I know I never think Yale looks fake,
Speaker 2: but in that scene, I thought Yale looked a little fake.
Speaker 2: To me, I was like, and I don't mean to
Speaker 2: be nitpicky. I just whatever.
Speaker 1: We're throwing a lot of flags on this, but it doesn't.
Speaker 2: Mean I don't love it. It's just that's our job.
Speaker 2: We're just here to sort of like pretigue. What I
Speaker 2: will say is that Emily and Richard to me, were
Speaker 2: the best part of this whole episode. I agree, And
Speaker 2: then I definitely want to dig into the Luke Loralai Christopher.
Speaker 2: So we do go now to the reenactors and Miss
Speaker 2: Patty and Taylor are judging the ladies, which was probably
Speaker 2: totally inappropriate but also kind of hilarious. And Kirk was
Speaker 2: just pushing Lulu for the win.
Speaker 1: In a stage boyfriend.
Speaker 2: That was that. That was just funny.
Speaker 4: And we have Taylor back, that's important to know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah right, so yeah, so that was all good.
Speaker 2: And then Laura Taylor really wants Laura to be the townhorror,
Speaker 2: but she's respectfully passing and then she stepped in the puddle,
Speaker 2: and you know, she gets back to the diner and
Speaker 2: I think this is where she burned her mouth off.
Speaker 4: I can't remember, Yeah, yeah it is. The cuffee is
Speaker 4: too hot, and then Kirk runs in.
Speaker 1: By the way, what is really that's a lawsuit against
Speaker 1: Luke Steyner and they shut it down.
Speaker 2: Do you get around that?
Speaker 5: When?
Speaker 2: So you know when they come over the plates very hot,
Speaker 2: plate's very hot? Does that cover them?
Speaker 3: Probably because they're telling you.
Speaker 2: They're telling you plate's very hot.
Speaker 1: Yeah hot plates.
Speaker 3: If you touch it, it's your own fault.
Speaker 4: Yeah right, And they always don't put it on the
Speaker 4: table the right way. You're like getting you.
Speaker 1: Fall into your lap, burn your mouth, burn your hands, whatever.
Speaker 2: The two most dangerous things but hetas that's hot.
Speaker 4: That is a facial at the same time.
Speaker 2: And the other one I love is a cookie skillet.
Speaker 2: Do you guys ever have a cookie skill?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I will gladly get burned for a cookie Skalet.
Speaker 2: Is where I'm like, I'll throw I'll throw germ spears
Speaker 2: out the window like everybody did it with their spoons.
Speaker 5: Just it.
Speaker 1: Just one place we used to go to served to
Speaker 1: apple crumble dessert and a skillet, hot skillet every time.
Speaker 1: I'd always grab it. Right, you just hold a glass
Speaker 1: of ice water and eat it.
Speaker 2: Shout out to the pazuki too, Scott.
Speaker 5: Have you ever had.
Speaker 2: Oh, oh my god, you gotta get your kid a pazuki?
Speaker 2: Have you guys ever do you guys ever go to
Speaker 2: BJ's Pizza.
Speaker 4: I used to do that for my birthday, Like I
Speaker 4: would say ages like ten through twenty. Like I love
Speaker 4: the Pazuki.
Speaker 2: Remember when we all went to Vegas last year, it
Speaker 2: was like it was like a Pazuki Paloosa. It was
Speaker 2: some sort of specials on BJ's.
Speaker 4: Please we talk about you every day Jay's.
Speaker 7: Pizza for three days in Vegas.
Speaker 3: It's all over there.
Speaker 2: I ate a lot of Kazukies, just saying, all right,
Speaker 2: what did we think about the fact. So let's debate
Speaker 2: a little bit. One thing is why didn't Rory tell
Speaker 2: Lorli that Christopher came by? Like I'm not one hundred
Speaker 2: percent clear on why she didn't do that.
Speaker 3: This is my main problem.
Speaker 4: Oh sorry, Oh okay, So I think because Christopher told
Speaker 4: Rory that his dad was sick, and if she told
Speaker 4: Lauraai that Laurai would then go to Christopher.
Speaker 5: That's my theory.
Speaker 3: But okay, I was just gonna say that.
Speaker 7: This is my problem with the show is that both
Speaker 7: Rory and Laurai just keep hiding things from each other
Speaker 7: or other people. And I don't understand because like they
Speaker 7: know it's wrong, Like you know, Laura I is thinking
Speaker 7: I should tell Luke this, or Rory saying I should
Speaker 7: admit that I knew that her grandfather died, but they
Speaker 7: just don't. And I'm like, it just that's the only
Speaker 7: part of the show that really bugs me. Yeah, it's like,
Speaker 7: just just say it. It would be so much better
Speaker 7: if you just said it. I understand it's the show,
Speaker 7: but so let.
Speaker 2: Me throw something out to you guys. And we're skipping
Speaker 2: a little bit of detail, which we'll get back to,
Speaker 2: but let's let's debate it. Why didn't she just say
Speaker 2: to Luke Rory's other grandfather died. She doesn't have to
Speaker 2: say Christopher's father because that might trigger Luke a little bit, right,
Speaker 2: and she knows that. I think she's trying to be
Speaker 2: sensitive to his feelings. Why didn't she just say we
Speaker 2: have a family situation, Rory's other grandfather died, because then
Speaker 2: Luke would have been like, oh my god, what do
Speaker 2: you need?
Speaker 1: How can I no drama in that?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: They want to create conflicts. So creating conflict is.
Speaker 4: Luke even triggered by Christopher.
Speaker 2: A little bit? He was a little bit in that
Speaker 2: other episode, but he's I mean, I don't think he
Speaker 2: was triggered at Christopher.
Speaker 4: I think he was triggered at Laurela hiding.
Speaker 5: Something from him.
Speaker 4: So like, I think even if Laura I said something like, oh,
Speaker 4: you know Christopher's dad, you know, Ory's grandfather passed away,
Speaker 4: I don't think he would be I think he would
Speaker 4: be like, go, you know, like make sure everything's okay, okay,
Speaker 4: not that thing is No.
Speaker 2: I love Luke, right, I love Luke, but he can't
Speaker 2: be triggered by it because I think when you go
Speaker 2: into a relationship with a woman who has a child, child,
Speaker 2: you have to be like, I accept that this child
Speaker 2: has a father that obviously she was in a relationship
Speaker 2: with good, bad, ugly whatever you just have.
Speaker 1: So yeah, but is sharing with you, you know, the
Speaker 1: weaker characteristics of her ex. You know, you get sucked
Speaker 1: in and then when that's really true stuff hits the fan.
Speaker 1: You're more compelled to intervene and act in a certain way.
Speaker 1: And that's if you don't, you're going to get accused
Speaker 1: of being you know, like why didn't you have my
Speaker 1: back there? It's a very precarious situation to be in,
Speaker 1: you know, and she shares a lot of stuff with Luke, right.
Speaker 2: I mean he does and he knows. Right. You make
Speaker 2: a great point there. I think if Luke wants to
Speaker 2: be happy, he just has to sort of be very
Speaker 2: accepting and tolerant of this past that she has. I
Speaker 2: think we'll get to it. But it's interesting he knew
Speaker 2: she was lying, and I wonder if he believes when she's.
Speaker 1: Like, oh yeah, I look, he's really good at compartmentalizing
Speaker 1: his feelings. He's had so much practice watching her day
Speaker 1: to other guys. But you know, he's got a job
Speaker 1: to do every day and he does it. Mm hm.
Speaker 2: So good point.
Speaker 1: And so I think now that he's in the relationship
Speaker 1: and he's comfortable, you know, this is just you know,
Speaker 1: more rules rules for the road. He's just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: he already knows how to how to be and survive
Speaker 1: with this woman. He ye knows the road map already.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's really true. So let's go back a
Speaker 2: little bit. So he comes over, she's she's very mad
Speaker 2: at the snow, and the snow's all over the car,
Speaker 2: and she's in her pink coat, which I didn't love
Speaker 2: the black scarf with the pink coat.
Speaker 1: But that was quite a rant that went on for it.
Speaker 2: Was a length tad lengthy, right, it was a little
Speaker 2: bit length length. It wasn't my favorite part of this episode.
Speaker 2: And again I don't mean to like criticize this episode.
Speaker 2: What I thought was interesting too. I've only seen this
Speaker 2: episode one, maybe two other times. This isn't what I've
Speaker 2: seen like seven times. But anyway, he's there helping. You know,
Speaker 2: that was sort of not my favorite scene. I don't
Speaker 2: know what you guys think.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's fine.
Speaker 2: I just wanted to get back to Richard and Emily again,
Speaker 2: which I agree.
Speaker 5: I agree.
Speaker 2: The Friday night dinner was so sorry, sorry Scott. Cleaning
Speaker 2: the car was not my favorite wonderful cleaning, but I
Speaker 2: just want to.
Speaker 1: Get back to He wasn't complaining.
Speaker 2: She was totally right.
Speaker 1: It was like a role reversal that didn't really land.
Speaker 1: Well I don't know.
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. What did land was Friday night dinner,
Speaker 2: Richard's being so sweet to Emily. Lore lyon Rory were
Speaker 2: firing on all cylinders, like the bit about like pretending
Speaker 2: mom's not there, she's a witch with a bee like
Speaker 2: it was just the whole thing was great.
Speaker 1: She went with her mother in the room, so I
Speaker 1: called her up.
Speaker 2: It was so funny, but she's just be funny about it.
Speaker 2: And then we learned the news of Strobe. Now here's
Speaker 2: my one thing. Rory only met Strobe one time? Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's that is not possible because we we were there
Speaker 2: when they met, which is weird.
Speaker 3: I mean they definitely mentioned that when she was a kid.
Speaker 3: She's she met him, right, No, she.
Speaker 2: Says, I I only I think she I tried to
Speaker 2: write it down. We might need to pull it. I
Speaker 2: don't know if anyone listening can pull the exact line,
Speaker 2: but she literally when she's talking to Lorelai on the phone,
Speaker 2: I think when she's leaving the house and she says
Speaker 2: something like I only met him once, and I was
Speaker 2: just like what somebody if they could pull the exact quote,
Speaker 2: because I'm like, is so weird and doesn't even track.
Speaker 1: Why? How what other situation?
Speaker 2: Because she went, I mean he look down the road,
Speaker 2: like I get it, and they weren't around, but like
Speaker 2: it seems like they should have met the.
Speaker 1: Family thing, Laura, I wasn't even connected to her own family.
Speaker 1: Why would you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 7: Like Emily and Richard throw so many parties, like they
Speaker 7: never came around once as a kid.
Speaker 2: I mean, right, she said she only met him until
Speaker 2: Rory wanted to go to Chilt.
Speaker 1: I guess the show's m I mean, the good point.
Speaker 3: We're just so into the details of it.
Speaker 2: I'm just so like, that's so weird. What I did
Speaker 2: love is that they're all talking about sending the flowers,
Speaker 2: and Emily's like, I already signed your name to the flower.
Speaker 2: I was just like, oh, thank god, these two are
Speaker 2: getting back together. Thank god. Okay, while we keep talking
Speaker 2: because we're running out of time. Oh wait, there it
Speaker 2: is the one time. Oh thank you, wow, Jackie. So
Speaker 2: Laurai says, yeah, I know he needed devent, you know.
Speaker 2: And we alternated between feeling bad about his dad and
Speaker 2: not liking him so much pretty much being life. So
Speaker 2: that's what Laura I says, And then Rory says, and
Speaker 2: I quote, well, the one time I met Strove, he
Speaker 2: did seem a little bitter and we all were there
Speaker 2: for that. Remember it was like when the big yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean, if she's hardly hanging out with her dad,
Speaker 4: what makes this thing she's hanging out with her grandfather.
Speaker 3: That's a goot.
Speaker 2: Am So okay, here's my questions for y'all. Did Rory
Speaker 2: do the right thing by going over there? And did
Speaker 2: Laura I do the right thing by going over there? Yes?
Speaker 7: To Ror, I think she needed to, especially after the
Speaker 7: way she spoke to her dad at not Children Yale.
Speaker 7: I think Laura I should have gone with her. I
Speaker 7: don't think they should have like taken turns. I feel
Speaker 7: like they should have just gone together.
Speaker 5: They didn't know, they didn't know.
Speaker 7: True, but no, I know she didn't know, But I
Speaker 7: feel like they should have just gone together and be
Speaker 7: a family for a moment.
Speaker 2: Right to Tara's point, Right, why did they keep not
Speaker 2: telling each other things like why didn't Rory just seem
Speaker 2: to go over there?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Or even just like I have no problem with Laura
Speaker 4: showing up and be like, here's a gift whatever, Tuila,
Speaker 4: call it a day, have a drink and GTFO. You know,
Speaker 4: like you don't need to like be there till sunrise.
Speaker 2: You know, guys think it was weird that she stayed
Speaker 2: there all night? Yes?
Speaker 5: Yes, yes?
Speaker 2: Do you feel nervous about that?
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah yeah. Luke not liking at it at all?
Speaker 4: No, Lucky, no, no, no, no, It's just a tale
Speaker 4: as old as time, like, can we get a new tail?
Speaker 5: You know what I mean? Like, I'm just kind of
Speaker 5: over it.
Speaker 1: You know they are milk in that cow well beyond Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm still I'm still joining. Yeah, I I I'm enjoying
Speaker 2: the milk. I'm just going to say. It's like I
Speaker 2: get it, and it's not. It's questioning. So you know
Speaker 2: the one thing that is, but.
Speaker 1: Your lead character who's carrying the show is going back
Speaker 1: into that situation again, and that's is that a misstep?
Speaker 1: Throwing a flag? Story wise?
Speaker 2: You three are I'm not. The one thing I thought
Speaker 2: was interesting though, is immediately.
Speaker 4: Wait, hold on, I have a question. I have a
Speaker 4: question for you, Amy. So, with all this being said
Speaker 4: and how you still want the milk? Are you team
Speaker 4: Luke or are you team crystalher.
Speaker 1: Amy? I'm advising you to have a lawyer present. This
Speaker 1: is getting.
Speaker 2: Okay, so I can answer that. Okay, I am always
Speaker 2: team Luke always.
Speaker 1: It's not a team. Well okay, first of all, can
Speaker 1: I just dispel this team thing? What's this team?
Speaker 10: It's just something the media did, Okay, I'm into it.
Speaker 10: You cannot be categorized as being a member of any team. Okay,
Speaker 10: because you're grouping Rory's boyfriend.
Speaker 1: Are you team Dean Jess?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she's asking me, am I team Luke or
Speaker 2: team christ It's.
Speaker 1: Not even a question. What what team are you? What
Speaker 1: are you talking about? A team?
Speaker 2: Do we support Luke and Lay?
Speaker 4: And then there's okay if you if you, I know,
Speaker 4: Scott's very confused.
Speaker 1: If you had to pay, I think you're confused. No,
Speaker 1: manipulated by a medium machine.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, let.
Speaker 1: Me millions of being poured into it.
Speaker 4: Let me rephrase the question.
Speaker 1: Then click, so they go. A team is a team
Speaker 1: Luke or a team D And it's not a team okay,
Speaker 1: team you know Jimmy Carter or your team Mount Rushmore.
Speaker 4: I mean, okay, all right, here's the question rephrased. Give
Speaker 4: it to me endgame for LAURALI do you see endgame
Speaker 4: with Luke or do you see endgame with Christopher?
Speaker 2: Well, obviously Luke, but that being said, okay, let me
Speaker 2: give it to you.
Speaker 5: And I just don't know how you can like have give.
Speaker 2: It to you. Everyone can understand. Everyone listening is going
Speaker 2: to understand Team eight in her team big like I
Speaker 2: go back and forth endgame, I can argue I did
Speaker 2: want her team Big until Big do.
Speaker 6: Okay, let's let's use game bar terminology.
Speaker 1: I mean, are you team Lorelei or you team you
Speaker 1: know Nicole?
Speaker 4: Well, it's I mean, that's not even a question.
Speaker 3: We all hated Nicole.
Speaker 1: Very much by putting her on a in a category,
Speaker 1: in a box where she's when it's so obvious what
Speaker 1: the choice is.
Speaker 2: Okay, hang on, hang on your honor that on, I
Speaker 2: respect it.
Speaker 1: Hang on. I'm trying to draw a comparison here. So
Speaker 1: why are you putting Luke in a box with a
Speaker 1: male version of Nicole, if not worse, and then splitting
Speaker 1: the audience up there between are you team I mean?
Speaker 2: Okay, you are making an amazingly good argument that I'm
Speaker 2: going to say no one has ever actually made. That's
Speaker 2: being said. There's something intriguing to me about Christopher and
Speaker 2: Laura l I that I did not find intriguing about Nicole.
Speaker 1: What do you want for Luke?
Speaker 7: Well?
Speaker 2: I think that Luke never had a love interest that
Speaker 2: was serious enough.
Speaker 1: Requestion, is a love interest that's serious?
Speaker 5: I they have a baby, I do.
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean it's a serious love interest. It means,
Speaker 1: now you know, somebody got her not off in whoops,
Speaker 1: but there's history.
Speaker 2: I think there is such a deep connection there. I
Speaker 2: still think Luke is better obviously, And also, Okay.
Speaker 4: I do I do understand, Like I got to give
Speaker 4: it to you, Scott, I do understand what you're saying, Scott,
Speaker 4: I actually do understand.
Speaker 2: Making probably the best argument I've ever.
Speaker 1: Had to defend Luke nobody is I'm stepping into the role.
Speaker 1: I have the character in the minds of the fans,
Speaker 1: right in their consciousness, because I feel a responsibility of
Speaker 1: the character because I don't think there's a comparison at all,
Speaker 1: and I don't understand the poll that she has to
Speaker 1: this guy.
Speaker 2: I'm wondering if there is anyone else out there that
Speaker 2: could explain to me maybe why I like Christopher? Is
Speaker 2: it something? Because maybe it's a bad side of me.
Speaker 2: Do you know what I'm saying, Like why do I
Speaker 2: like Jerks?
Speaker 1: Here's what Amy and Dan did. They created what a
Speaker 1: lot of fans perceive to be as the perfect man. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: So if you read fan reaction over the years, it's
Speaker 1: Luke Luke Luke. He's the ideal guy. He suffers in silence.
Speaker 1: It's not about him he's a throwback character. He loves her,
Speaker 1: he serves her. If it doesn't work out, he's still
Speaker 1: going to be a great friend to her. That's sort
Speaker 1: of a fantasy situation, that's an ideal situation. And then
Speaker 1: juxtapos this against Christopher, the polar opposite, and then somehow
Speaker 1: let's rate them. And I'm not taking away anything David
Speaker 1: Sutcliffe did for that character, because no, no, no.
Speaker 2: He plays it so well. He's not really good.
Speaker 1: And it's a difficult role and a thank role obviously,
Speaker 1: you know, judging by the tone of this conversation.
Speaker 2: Well, and and the fans they hate him, and I
Speaker 2: just don't hate him, Danielle Tard, You guys hate him.
Speaker 4: I don't hate him. I do, weirdly, I do, weirdly
Speaker 4: have some kind of sympathy for him, but I don't
Speaker 4: like him anywhere near Lorelei. I don't like him as
Speaker 4: like if I'm separating him and just like oh Christopher,
Speaker 4: I'm like, I do feel kind of bad for the guy,
Speaker 4: but in his general contact, with his history with Lorelei
Speaker 4: and Rory, I'm just kind of like, dude, you're kind
Speaker 4: of a coward. That's that's how I see him.
Speaker 2: Would you be happier if he was just gone and
Speaker 2: never was, like not even a character or gone away now,
Speaker 2: like we know your tool go.
Speaker 1: I think he's always going to be a useful tool
Speaker 1: in this uh, in this piece, in this drama, because
Speaker 1: every time he returns, he triggers the you know what
Speaker 1: out of the audience. Yeah, and he forces the characters
Speaker 1: to act in ways they wouldn't normally behaving, which I
Speaker 1: think is a plus.
Speaker 2: Yes, I agree with you.
Speaker 1: There, you throw a fly in the ointment. It's interesting
Speaker 1: to watch, right.
Speaker 2: Very I think. I also there's something about the fact
Speaker 2: that Richard and Emily adore him. It's like, oh, that's
Speaker 2: intriguing to me. I think I'm attracted to him. If
Speaker 2: I'm going to be truthful, I think he's super cute.
Speaker 1: Listen, I think I think something just dawned on me
Speaker 1: how much I love this character Luke, how much I
Speaker 1: love playing him, and how proud I am of portraying him.
Speaker 1: And yes, I'm a little defensive, I think today, and
Speaker 1: I apologize that to aggressive, but you know, I put
Speaker 1: a lot into that and I take great pride in it,
Speaker 1: and I don't want Luke to be reduced or categorized
Speaker 1: in that way. It's it feels wrong and it feels bad.
Speaker 2: The reason I like it is you're sort of holding
Speaker 2: me too. Why do I like Christopher? And I'm admitting
Speaker 2: I don't totally have an answer. I just know I
Speaker 2: do like him. That's why I'm saying, like.
Speaker 1: That's the way they got an actor like David sucklif.
Speaker 2: Because he's because I also think he's so handsome Tid
Speaker 2: it's hard him. I wasn't like as into Max or
Speaker 2: or Digger, Like I wasn't like, oh hot for them, whereas.
Speaker 3: They were like there for the season.
Speaker 2: Christopher, I'm like, he's kind of a cutie. They have
Speaker 2: this connection. I love their ping ponging they do when
Speaker 2: they're talking. I don't know, maybe it's like he's familiar,
Speaker 2: They've got this history. I'm not saying I like him
Speaker 2: more than Luke, of course not. But I'm not ready
Speaker 2: to just like kick him out the I also think.
Speaker 7: Amy it's because we keep bringing him back, so you're
Speaker 7: kind of like stuck seeing him again too. Like with
Speaker 7: Max and Digger, like they just go away and yeah,
Speaker 7: there's not even a conversation around them, which you're probably
Speaker 7: attracted to. Him in that sense, because you know he's
Speaker 7: coming back one way or another. He's in he's Rory's dad.
Speaker 2: Right before we go, we have a couple more important things. First,
Speaker 2: we've got the reenactors, which was pretty funny. Amusing is
Speaker 2: the girl? It's amused. That was great. We we we
Speaker 2: get to see Richard and Emily again and the dog
Speaker 2: is gone, you know, but you see I'm really feeling them,
Speaker 2: and then we need to talk about it. The ice rink, like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, she's lying to him and he's building
Speaker 2: her an ice.
Speaker 1: Rin this perfect guy.
Speaker 2: Hmm.
Speaker 1: You know, it's just he's just don't it's tough.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So what did you feel? Were you more mad
Speaker 2: about her lying?
Speaker 1: No? I think it's great drama. I think it's really
Speaker 1: great writing. I think, yeah, you really set the audience
Speaker 1: up for to feel something very deeply, and I think
Speaker 1: that's the art of what they do. So well, you
Speaker 1: see the ice drink, you see what he did, and
Speaker 1: you know that they haven't been fourth totally forthcoming with him,
Speaker 1: and there could be some bad you know, another shoe
Speaker 1: to drop. We don't know, if you know, Laura l
Speaker 1: and Christopher slept together and that's the next lie that's
Speaker 1: going to be uncovered.
Speaker 11: Right, I don't think that happened, but I well, I
Speaker 11: mean I don't know, no, no, no, but I think that's
Speaker 11: hanging out there. It's like the you know, the fact
Speaker 11: that you went there as Scott Patterson makes me think
Speaker 11: Luke is gonna think the same thing.
Speaker 4: Well, she's even lying about her headache. You know, she
Speaker 4: felt the worst hangover she's ever felt in her entire life,
Speaker 4: and she's telling Luke, Oh, it was just a little headache.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 4: It's like she's just down playing everything. And I don't know,
Speaker 4: watching that ice drink scene in particular, I was just like,
Speaker 4: why is she self sabotaging herself?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 4: You know, I'm like, she here, she has this guy
Speaker 4: that's shoveling snow off his car and building her an
Speaker 4: ice drink to make her you know, association with snow
Speaker 4: happier after a series of unfortunate events, and she's just
Speaker 4: like skating on the ice as if nothing happened.
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's just like she's attracted. She still
Speaker 2: likes jerks, you know how every girl kind of goes
Speaker 2: through that, like we all like the wrong guy until
Speaker 2: we finally get it right.
Speaker 4: But she likes Luke, so it's just like, why is
Speaker 4: she going backwards?
Speaker 1: You know, like you know Danielle. It's an interested amy.
Speaker 1: That's an interesting point. Maybe on a certain level, Luke
Speaker 1: really bores Larela because he's so predictable in her entire day.
Speaker 2: I think she has not ready yet completely. It's not ready.
Speaker 2: She's not ready for the perfect guy, like we all are.
Speaker 2: I dated a bunch of dumb dumbs until I was
Speaker 2: older and ready for the right guy.
Speaker 1: How can she don't know ready? At what point is
Speaker 1: she going to be ready? She's thirty six now about
Speaker 1: age seven.
Speaker 2: Age is just a number, like you just got to
Speaker 2: get to that point. I don't think I got there
Speaker 2: till my first corpses.
Speaker 1: Hey, it's just a number.
Speaker 2: I don't think I got there till my forty. I
Speaker 2: liked a lot of bad ones. I don't know. Danielle
Speaker 2: was ahead of me. She got it right, Yeah, young.
Speaker 4: I mailed the perfect guy at twenty two. Oh my god,
Speaker 4: I'm good.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 4: But prior to that, college was a show. So don't
Speaker 4: give you that.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, that's the thing I think. I think.
Speaker 1: What's interesting about it is. Life is messy. There are
Speaker 1: a lot of situations in the real world where people
Speaker 1: have children out of wedlock, or they have children and
Speaker 1: they're very young, and it really complicates their entire lives.
Speaker 1: You know. Sometimes it's a little worse than others. Sometimes
Speaker 1: it can be really good and they're getting along and
Speaker 1: everything's great and everybody's getting along. But you know, obviously
Speaker 1: this situation where there's a complications. So it's it's it's
Speaker 1: it's true life. You know, it's it's believable, it's you know,
Speaker 1: just what it is. Everybody's got to deal with it.
Speaker 1: So there we are on the show. We're dealing with it.
Speaker 2: I thought of a new thing before we go, a
Speaker 2: new bit, a new thing. I don't know what to
Speaker 2: call it. When we do favorite lines, I also want
Speaker 2: to do high low, your favorite part of the episode
Speaker 2: and the one weeklanth I like that, so okay, Like
Speaker 2: my favorite part of this episode is everything with Richard
Speaker 2: and Emily just that was really my favorite. And I
Speaker 2: would say my low was that I couldn't hear Michelle
Speaker 2: and Suki was just sort.
Speaker 4: Of like is it bad for me to say exactly
Speaker 4: the same Like all the Richard and Emily specific the
Speaker 4: dog stuff was just so funny, like Emily even saying
Speaker 4: like it moved, is that normal? Like just like all
Speaker 4: I had like ten favorite lines from just Richard and Emily.
Speaker 5: I'm just like that was so funny.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: What was your weak part?
Speaker 5: I mean the week part.
Speaker 4: I would agree with you with Michelle and Suki because
Speaker 4: it didn't do anything for me, Like, there's nothing, It
Speaker 4: didn't make an impact on me at all.
Speaker 7: Tura, I was gonna say the same thing, like those
Speaker 7: scenes with Suki and Michelle, like I kind of forgot
Speaker 7: about them until I saw them on our notes sheet,
Speaker 7: like our sheet of notes.
Speaker 3: So yeah, it wasn't very memorable.
Speaker 2: What was your favorite?
Speaker 3: The dog stuff has to be Emily and Richard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, God, I think the high For me, it was
Speaker 1: kind of a tie between the Richard and Emily stuff. Uh.
Speaker 1: And there was a scene where Luke came in from
Speaker 1: the cold and he didn't and Laura l I lied
Speaker 1: to him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he just came in And I really love that
Speaker 2: kissed her.
Speaker 1: I love those scenes because you just because the audience
Speaker 1: knows and they know more than the character does, and
Speaker 1: I think that's very powerful. It's very important that the
Speaker 1: audience participate in these emotions, right, and that's the writing. Again,
Speaker 1: got to compliment the writing because now you're leaning forward
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, is she going to tell him?
Speaker 1: What's he going to react like once he finds out?
Speaker 1: But he doesn't know she's not saying anything. So creating
Speaker 1: that kind of tension, I think is it's in that
Speaker 1: way is brilliant. So that was a high point for me.
Speaker 1: In the Richard Emily stuff too as well, with all
Speaker 1: that anticipation and you're participating and all that because you're
Speaker 1: actively wanting them to get back together. Low point for
Speaker 1: me has to be seeing Kirk and makeup. Sorry, yeah, no, no,
Speaker 1: thanks no.
Speaker 2: So what do we rate it? What does everybody rate it?
Speaker 1: Well, that's a good question, Tara, What do you think.
Speaker 3: My measuring stick is milk and cookies? Good?
Speaker 7: And I'm going to give it an eight because the
Speaker 7: lying just really bugged me. That was really like my
Speaker 7: downfall this episode was just like are we lying? I Mean,
Speaker 7: I understand for you know, drama of the show, but
Speaker 7: I'm just like, you're digging yourself in this into this
Speaker 7: bigger hole by just constantly lying.
Speaker 3: So that's why I give it an eight.
Speaker 4: I'll give it nine out of ten, Princess Dogs.
Speaker 2: Eight, fire Pokers.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it seven point eighty five spineless fathers
Speaker 1: mm hmm.
Speaker 4: Also, I just said I should have said nine out
Speaker 4: of ten Team Luke's because I'm team.
Speaker 1: There's no team.
Speaker 5: I'm saying is there's.
Speaker 2: No Luke and team.
Speaker 10: There's no damn right, there isn't.
Speaker 1: It is funny, all righty? Okay? So from now, if
Speaker 1: you're going to ask that question, are your team, look
Speaker 1: at team Chris of you have to ask first team Nicole.
Speaker 4: But I didn't even say there was another team. I'm
Speaker 4: just saying I'm always team. Look, there's no one else.
Speaker 4: There's no other team.
Speaker 2: Good discussion.
Speaker 1: He's in a league of his own. There are no
Speaker 1: other teams in that league. Episode what's the next episode?
Speaker 1: Season five, episode twelve, come Home? That is going to
Speaker 1: wrap it up here. Thank you everybody, best fans on
Speaker 1: the planet. Keep those cards and letters coming and all
Speaker 1: of those very impactful positive and there's a drip of negative,
Speaker 1: but we learn from it, we take it in. We
Speaker 1: don't internalize it too much because we get to get
Speaker 1: together every week and do this show. And that's the
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