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Speaker 1: Wording today's episode. Today spoilers for Daredevil Born Again Episode

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Speaker 1: He I Movies, you liked it, and welcome back.

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Speaker 2: Dext vision of the podcast where we dived your favorite shows, movies,

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Speaker 2: comics of pop culture.

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Speaker 1: Coming to you by my Art Podcast. We're bringing you

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Speaker 3: In today's episode, we are diving into Dead Evil Born

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Speaker 3: Again episode one oh seven, Art for Art's Sake. We're

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Speaker 3: gonna be talking about MWS. We're gonna be talking about Vanessa.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna be talking about how fucking great the Wilson

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Speaker 3: Fisk and Charlie Cooke's dad Devil stuff is in this season.

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Speaker 3: And we're also gonna be asking was muse was he

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Speaker 3: too quick? Was he over too quick? What happened? Well?

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Speaker 3: I think it was comic book accurate. But you know

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Speaker 3: what we talk about it.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about that, okay.

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Speaker 1: Episode one oh seven Art for Art's Sake, written by

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Speaker 1: Jill Blank and ship director by David Boyd. Let me

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Speaker 1: just say up front, I love this show. I love

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Speaker 1: dared Evil. This is a very silly episode, but I

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Speaker 1: like stremely silly. It's very enjoyable, enjoyable in that silliness.

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Speaker 1: So we open with Mayor Fiske. He's upset Mayor Fisk Wilson.

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Speaker 1: Fisk does a lot of pensive staring out of the

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Speaker 1: window in this episode. He just look at the city,

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Speaker 1: just look it out there, And so he called Dan

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Speaker 4: Just look out there, you see that city. They elected

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Speaker 4: me because I promised them peace from the mask freaks,

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Speaker 4: and yet muses out of here killing sixty people, guy

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Speaker 2: And then he finds out and and Buck doesn't even want.

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Speaker 3: To tell him, but he he's like, I do want

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Speaker 2: He does not want to tell him, but he's like yeah.

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Speaker 1: So the one survivor, Angela, it kind of seems like

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Speaker 2: Throws every out. He can't stand it.

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Speaker 3: He's stressed.

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Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Matt is in his shower post Muse fight, post

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Speaker 2: He's leaning into the cusely into the drain.

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Speaker 1: Heather comes in and is immediately like the naked form

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Speaker 3: I'm feeling that's part of his sexual power prop superpowers.

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Speaker 1: She gets in and then notices these grievous wounds and

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Speaker 1: And then he turns around and then she gets a

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Speaker 1: full frontal view of the mac musk and she's just like,

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Speaker 3: You're just good at any of it.

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Speaker 2: I need it now, Matt Murdoch.

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Speaker 1: I forget everything that I've just seen and I need

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Speaker 1: that Matt Murdoch action.

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Speaker 3: That's true. Matt Murdoch is a slot in the comics

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Speaker 3: Guys comic comics. One of his biggest superpowers is how

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Speaker 3: many people he focks like. That's just true. And if

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Speaker 1: He's good, good at it, it's just what he's good

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Speaker 1: at that because those hypes, what he does. Guy knows

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Speaker 2: So Matt hits the spot and Heather.

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Speaker 3: But what does he do instead, Jay said, instead of

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Speaker 1: Matt then goes on a campaign of the most effective

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Speaker 2: Yet, which sit he yeah, please.

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Speaker 3: This is part of comic book of not just Mat Murdo,

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Speaker 1: First of all, you gotta play it up, Matt, because

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Speaker 2: We see you all the time. You're not bumping into

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Speaker 3: You know, into stuff like what are you?

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Speaker 1: What are you bumping into knives? Like why are you

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Speaker 3: Bro? Just like tell her also like at this point

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Speaker 1: This is so shameless and over the line, Matt, you lying, bitch, true.

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Speaker 2: And then Heather is like, Matt, stop it. You're traumatized.

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Speaker 2: And then Matt's like, oh I see the off ramp.

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Speaker 1: That's perfect, and he's like yeah, like and then he

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Speaker 2: Like I don't know, I don't know what's going Oh no, yeah?

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Speaker 1: And then he you know, and then you realize Matt's like,

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Speaker 1: then goes to the office he meets Cherry. Cherry is

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Speaker 1: gonna go and fight muse. And Matt's like, listen news

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Speaker 3: Sixty six to the list when in the ten killers

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Speaker 1: We have got a confirmed number, because it was there

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Speaker 2: But sixty is a big that's a big fucking number.

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Speaker 3: Sixty huge number.

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Speaker 1: And Matt's Matt, I think makes a good point to Cherry,

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Speaker 1: Muse is killing people, Like that's your vote.

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Speaker 3: Him, Like that's good man, Like yeah, we can deal

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Speaker 2: It's like, let's let him do his work and we'll

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Speaker 3: Yeah I know. And I'm like the thing that Buck

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Speaker 3: So I said I wasn't gonna be Kingpin, but I

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Speaker 1: Fisk then blows his top because he starts like reliving

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Speaker 2: And he's like and he and he frames it really.

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Speaker 1: Interestingly, is like this class this this like as his

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Speaker 3: Like you have crazy expensive paintings that you were buying

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Speaker 3: it's like Wilson Fisk's anti vigilante agenda. There's like no

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Speaker 1: And then finally he's what you know he says to

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Speaker 1: Buck listen, Buck, I hired you because you're an outside

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Speaker 3: He's like, remember when you were called Bullet and you

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Speaker 1: So then Matt goes to see Angela in the hospital. She's,

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Speaker 2: What was it? And she's like, well he really loved

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Speaker 3: I'm also like this is a teenager whose blood was

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Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, this is nice. And then

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Speaker 1: La yeahs on, Yeah, the guy paints murals with the

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Speaker 3: tell me something like faces. He paints faces all over

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Speaker 3: from the.

437
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Speaker 2: Back, choked the dye.

438
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 3: She does a good job. And also I do think

439
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 3: like mus is definitely in a stressed out situation because

440
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 3: he made the mistake of like going there and showing

441
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,639
Speaker 3: himself as Bastian and telling her about his trauma. So

442
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,920
Speaker 3: now she's just like, you're pussy, You're.

443
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 2: Calling him by his name and shit.

444
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 3: He's like, I'm muse, anyone who has a mosque is

445
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 3: a coward. I'm like, okay, we get it. There.

446
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,080
Speaker 2: Matt comes through the window and then there's a big fight.

447
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 1: Great fight, big, big, big brutal, brutal, brutal fight that

448
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 1: includes Matt like spearing him through the chest backward, like

449
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 1: through the back with his like trunch and spike like

450
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,159
Speaker 1: he just caught like a marlin, and then like reeling

451
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 1: him in.

452
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 2: So this goes on for a little bit while.

453
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 1: But then to your point, it is Heather who grabs

454
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 1: Muses gun and guns down music. Now, yes, Muses dead

455
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 1: and she collapses from blood loss, and.

456
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 3: Matt big change, get out of there.

457
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 2: Big change in the comics.

458
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 1: And Matt has to get out of there because Fisk's

459
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: dirty Cop task Force, by which I mean they're not

460
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:39,200
Speaker 1: investigating dirty cops.

461
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 2: They are dirty cops.

462
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,440
Speaker 3: They are They're all the dirty.

463
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 2: Cops Fikes dirty cop task Forses, like in the building there.

464
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,879
Speaker 3: You know. I have to say, though, yeah, this is

465
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:51,399
Speaker 3: again bad Matt behavior. If that was me and my

466
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 3: girlfriend who is my longtime girlfriend in this context, and

467
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,160
Speaker 3: she's bleeding out on the floor, I would just take

468
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 3: up with me and then drop her at the hospital.

469
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,679
Speaker 3: Like he just leaves on the floor and she's bleed

470
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 3: it out and she just ran next to Muse, the

471
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 3: guy who tried to kill her, and the toss fors

472
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 3: come in and they're like what happened? And I'm like, Matt,

473
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 3: what the fuck? Bro? Like Spider Man would have taken

474
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 3: Spider Man would have taken spider Man would have taken it,

475
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 3: so you know, maybe, you know, maybe Matt is like

476
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 3: a as like a normal strength man was thinking I

477
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,919
Speaker 3: just got in this crazy fight, and also like maybe I'll.

478
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 2: Anyway.

479
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 1: He gets out of there. Sometime later, Fisk comes to

480
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,679
Speaker 1: the crime scene, which big no, no, the mayor come

481
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 1: directly through crimes of whatever.

482
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 3: He's so bait this guy.

483
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 2: This guy.

484
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 1: He goes to see Mus's corpse, but he gets the

485
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 1: really bad news that in fact, Daredevil was in the

486
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 1: office before the task Force got there and he jumped

487
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 1: out the window.

488
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 3: And also he killed Mews. And and Fisk is like no, no, no, no, no,

489
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 3: you guys killed Mws, didn't you. And they're like yeah,

490
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 3: I get oh yeah, yeah totally what am I think? Yeah?

491
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 2: Sorry, we're dirty cops. We should be lying all the time.

492
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 2: Cool killed Mus? Like, give me a break, bb Or.

493
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 1: It goes to a meeting at Mayor Fisk's office to

494
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 1: find Daniel sitting in Fisk's chair with his feet up

495
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 1: on the desk, he's he's comfortable, he's very very confident.

496
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: He's very very comfortable, and he's pissed. He's pissed because

497
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 1: he's like, Babe, you've been using me to break news

498
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 1: for newsleaks true. And she's like, yeah, but you got

499
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 1: drunk and you just were talking shit.

500
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 2: So what am I supposed to do? I'm a journalist,

501
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 2: that's my job.

502
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,919
Speaker 3: And he's also like, and I see you making a

503
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 3: video about how dead Evil was the one who stopped muse,

504
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,679
Speaker 3: but that was the task post and she's like, no,

505
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 3: it wasn't. And he's like, well, I think you're gonna.

506
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,880
Speaker 1: Say it was, that's right, and he basically says, get

507
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: on the fucking Fisk train or your life is going

508
00:26:56,119 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 1: to be one big shit storm because Fisk is the

509
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 1: mayor and I am the mayor's guy, and you gotta

510
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 1: do the ship that the fucking mayor says.

511
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 2: And it's unclear where we go with that, but BB looks.

512
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,120
Speaker 3: Look, she looks not happy at this, but I will say, look,

513
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 3: I'm a BB Anna Daniel. I'm not a Daniel fan

514
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 3: as his behavior, but I think he's a good character.

515
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 3: And I also am a BB defender because I think

516
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 3: that's a very interesting way of exploring ben Yurik's kind

517
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 3: of legacy. But as I said in the discord this morning,

518
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 3: I think from what we know of Boebe and what

519
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 3: we know of Daniel, I think she would have just

520
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 3: like throat punched him and walked out. Like I just

521
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 3: don't see a way that she's threatened by this guy.

522
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 3: But maybe she's playing him.

523
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:46,919
Speaker 1: Maybe what is the threat I don't get, Like, what.

524
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 3: What can he make Wilson fit? What can he do?

525
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 3: Like she's already been trying to expose Wilson fit.

526
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 2: All he cares about his daredebil Like he's not gonna

527
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 2: be bb Urik.

528
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 1: He doesn't care about anyway. Heather wakes up to find

529
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: Matt at her bedside in the hospital. She's obviously very

530
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: very shaken up, still very traumatized from what happened. They

531
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,360
Speaker 1: kind of talk in circles about stuff, but don't.

532
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 3: She's talking about dead Evil shows off and he says

533
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 3: her name. Also. I was like, Matt, if you don't

534
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 3: want her to realize you're dead Edvil, you're showing up

535
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,199
Speaker 3: in your little red glasses after your Red Eyes of

536
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 3: the Dead Evil mosque was staring down.

537
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: I would get a different colored lens just for this

538
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 1: specific yeah time. But he still can't be honest that

539
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: even after she almost died, which again, Matt, big problem.

540
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:30,199
Speaker 2: Big, big problem.

541
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: So they can't they they're like kind of not able

542
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: to talk on that sincere level. So she just turns

543
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: on the TV and of course it's the news conference

544
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: of Fisk with the Task Force. He's standing in front

545
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: of the Task Force and he's got all the muse

546
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: just like the New York and White PD cops do

547
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: the dope on the table. You know, they got all muses,

548
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 1: fucking drawings and all this shit on the table.

549
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 3: Oh he did so many paintings.

550
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: And then Fisk you know, holds up the muse mask

551
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: is like, we did it, We got them. Meanwhile, Vanessa

552
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,479
Speaker 1: is is at home and she's texting the address of

553
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 1: the Wonderful and the historic Balmont's restaurant.

554
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 3: Wow, they said.

555
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: One hundred and twenty five year old Italian restaurant and

556
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 1: has all the vibes there in Williamsburg.

557
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 2: Great if you're in New York, check it out.

558
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: And she's texting him that the address to it, to

559
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:22,959
Speaker 1: whoever that is.

560
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 2: And then we realize that it's Luca.

561
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 1: Luca gets this text, and then we see that Wilson

562
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: is eating alone at Beaumont's. He's digging into some chicken

563
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: parmesan or something. Luca goes in there. He's got his

564
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: gun out, He's going in for the kill, but before

565
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: he can even get.

566
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 2: Close, Buck shoots him. Buck's like hiding in the shadows.

567
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so good.

568
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 1: Fisk doesn't even flinch, keeps eating, and then he calls

569
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: and this is like a very mister and missus Smith.

570
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 2: Oh I call it miss mister and missus Fisk. It's

571
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 2: very mister and missus Smith.

572
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:01,959
Speaker 1: In that Fisk understanding completely that Vanessa just tried to

573
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: have him fucking whacked. Then calls her in this very

574
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: kind of like passive aggressive way and is like, Oh, I'm.

575
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 2: At Belle Monty's eating chicken.

576
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

577
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 2: He's like, COVID, tell her I'm eating a wonderful chicken parmesan.

578
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 5: If she likes some, I would, I'll take it home.

579
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 2: To her and uh.

580
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: And then we end this very entertaining and fun episode

581
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 1: that I loved. That is that was fantastically silly in

582
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 1: a very comic book, deeply.

583
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 3: Goofy in a way that is also deeply enjoyable.

584
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 2: Yes, your thoughts about this episode?

585
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 3: Yes, I like this episode. I will say I do

586
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 3: think that critiques of people saying like, could we have

587
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 3: spent more time with mus Yeah, I think so. But

588
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 3: also there's a there's a limited time, and I do

589
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 3: like a world where we are spending less time with

590
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 3: like weird, serious, very serial killer male.

591
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: It's very book is to introduce a villain for two

592
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: issues or episodes and then you're gone.

593
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 3: And also realistically he's been in it since the beginning,

594
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 3: so it really it's like a seven. It's like maybe

595
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 3: I think episode one was the first time we saw

596
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 3: one of his murals, and then we kind of start

597
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 3: to talking about him in episode two. He's gone by

598
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 3: episode seven, five to six issue arc I think is

599
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 3: very fair. I like where when I think it was

600
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 3: interesting to have Heather kill him instead of blind spot,

601
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 3: I think we'll likely see her kind of be dealing

602
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 3: with the guilt of that. I would also say it's

603
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 3: one of our super producers put in the chat like

604
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 3: is Matt seeing her this facing the paint offensive? Honestly,

605
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 3: like maybe in a different story, but the version of

606
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 3: blindness that Matt Murder presents is generally offensive anyway, Like, yeah,

607
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 3: he's playing blind using his cane all that kind of stuff,

608
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 3: But realistically, the way that his powers work, whether you're

609
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 3: in the comic, he's blind, he lost, he's vision impaired,

610
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 3: but he has other supernatural senses from the magical goo

611
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 3: and toxic waste that you know, blinded him, that allow

612
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 3: him from the comics to the show to the beloved

613
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 3: ben Affleck the Devil movie, there are many different ways

614
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 3: that Matt sees and can see people. So honestly, it's

615
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 3: always like slightly offensive, but we still love him because

616
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 3: he's Matt Murdock and that's also comics. Okay. Something I've

617
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 3: been loving and friend of the pod Nika Shukla text

618
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 3: me about this is like, I think something they're doing

619
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 3: so well in this season is the duality and the

620
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 3: kind of joint journey of Matt back to Dead Evil

621
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,239
Speaker 3: and Wilson back to Kingpin. Like, I just love the

622
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 3: kind of really interesting reflections of each other. I think

623
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 3: that is the best thing you can do with a superhero,

624
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 3: and I think it's at the heart of all the

625
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 3: great Batman movies. Is like, well, yeah, and I think here,

626
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 3: I really feel like they're doing it. And I kind

627
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 3: of also like that the relationship between Fisk and Vanessa

628
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 3: and Matt and Heather, they both have their own kind

629
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 3: of weird complexities and lies, and I'm interested to see

630
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 3: if Heather's going to try and unmask Matt. That's like,

631
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 3: this is.

632
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 2: What it feels like.

633
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: It feels like like the way she addressed Muse is

634
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: a coward and all this stuff and her in exactly vigilants.

635
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: It's clear to me that we're going we're heading towards

636
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 1: a moment where Heather goes on some tirade about mask

637
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: vigilantes and how their parents didn't love them and their

638
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: cowards and they're all like, you know, trying to deal

639
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: with some sort of insecurity that they have in their

640
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: own life.

641
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they had.

642
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: Masks going to get really keyed up about this and

643
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: be like, but Devil's cool.

644
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 2: That that guy, But that one is, yeah, I know the.

645
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 3: Right, he's doing something good. He's definitely not traumatized. Another

646
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 3: good questionnaire is what causes a trained therapist to call

647
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 3: me usic psychopath? Honestly boso as well? That is not

648
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 3: a good therapist like, I have to say, I was

649
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 3: watching this episode and I was like, babe, like the

650
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 3: way that you quickly like would just like, so you

651
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 3: did that to impress your parents. I'm like, just let

652
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 3: the man talk a little, but you don't mean TV.

653
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 2: That's fine, yea. I will say one thing that you were.

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Speaker 1: Talking about, the the Fisk Matt kind of mirror structure

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Speaker 1: of this, like emotional arcs of this.

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Speaker 2: I really like that as well.

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Speaker 1: And it's interesting to me that Fisk is actually much

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Speaker 1: more honest in his relationship yeah Vanessa than Matt is

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Speaker 1: with Heather, like as a, which is crazy. That the psychopathic,

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Speaker 1: meglomaniac villain is in a much more loving, trusting, and

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Speaker 1: sincere and honest relationship with his crime boss former art

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Speaker 1: dealer wife than mad Is.

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Speaker 2: That's interesting. And I also love that they continue.

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Speaker 1: To signal Fisk's journey back to Kingpins with bigger and

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Speaker 1: more extravagant meals, like she's just making wonderful meals like

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Speaker 1: he was making he was cooking at home, and now

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Speaker 1: it's like we've gotten to the point where he's like,

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Speaker 1: I gotta go out to Belmonte.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, gotta be eating this delicious meal. I think that's

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Speaker 3: an interesting like conversation to be had there by I'm

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Speaker 3: sure much smaller and intelligent people than me. I would

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Speaker 3: love to read someone's kind of writing or thesis on that,

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Speaker 3: because I think there's two ways to look at one. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: that kind of the classic like connecting fatness with badness,

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Speaker 3: but I don't actually think that's what they're doing here.

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Speaker 3: I think that there's something really interesting about the idea

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Speaker 3: of Fisk becoming more true to himself and more honest

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Speaker 3: with himself about who he is and what he wants

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Speaker 3: to be, and that's represented by eating more deliciously and

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Speaker 3: kind of like being able to follow the wants that

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Speaker 3: he has and doing that through food. I think it

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Speaker 3: is so interesting and I love to see it because, honestly,

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Speaker 3: like he's a corrupt mayor, I'd rather he was just kingpin,

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Speaker 3: like just being kingpin guy. Also, I think Vanessa as

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Speaker 3: a successful crime boss who's now like annoyed at her

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Speaker 3: husband who's like holding her back with her shuck the

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Speaker 3: bed really really interesting and meets something I was expecting

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Speaker 3: them to explore this season.

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Speaker 2: I think Matt could really troll Wilson by saying things

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Speaker 2: like Venessa's a new perfume is really good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that Oh my gosh, could you imagine? And if

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Speaker 3: he just thought it like implying, I mean Vanessa too,

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Speaker 3: that would be a great way for them to fuck

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Speaker 3: with each other. And I do think as we head into.

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Speaker 2: Who is this very handsome lawyer?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, who is this with this red glass? He looks wonderful.

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Speaker 3: I also love how like kind of betrayed Wilson is

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Speaker 3: that Matt is that devil again because they made that

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Speaker 3: made this agreement and that Dina, but also really he's

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Speaker 3: waiting for Matt's permission to be I love again. And

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Speaker 3: I think that's really interesting, and that's interesting.

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Speaker 1: That's really the most of them, the two it's really

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Speaker 1: the most intimate relationship that either of them have is

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Speaker 1: with each other. They both know the truth, the whole truth,

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Speaker 1: no one yeah, and it's like are both looking to

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Speaker 1: each other as the signal that, Yeah, it's okay, go back,

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Speaker 1: go back to doing this stuff.

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Speaker 3: And it's the it's the it's the Batman Joker relationship.

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Speaker 3: Really is that we get in the comics, but so

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Speaker 3: often don't really get in the movies and don't have

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Speaker 3: time to explore because they never have Batman be a

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Speaker 3: main character in a real TV show or a non

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Speaker 3: animated show, But yeah, I just think it's that's what

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Speaker 3: keeps me hooked. And also, like, I love silly comic

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Speaker 3: book shit, and this is.

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Speaker 6: Like incredibly silly, silly.

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Speaker 3: Comic sy Like I know that Matt and Wilson are

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Speaker 3: gonna keep fucking with each other as this season goes to.

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Speaker 1: An end, and that's the best thing to believe it

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Speaker 1: must The question to me is wil Venness try again?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, will she try again to kill them?

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Speaker 3: Also will it be revealed? And this might just be

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Speaker 3: my Vanessa bias showing, but like, also Wilson had buck

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Speaker 3: they're ready to kill Lucas. So there is a version

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Speaker 3: where she let him know, Hey, Lucas saying this, I

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Speaker 3: waited that her show her allegiance to Wilson, but she

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Speaker 3: was also probably like, well, if he did do it,

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Speaker 3: like I would have used who upset.

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Speaker 2: My read is that.

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Speaker 1: She obviously gave you know, Luca the location of Wilson,

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Speaker 1: but then also knew that Luca had no shot at

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Speaker 1: taking down Wilson. And I think that what she's doing

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Speaker 1: is she's trying to get him back into Kingpin mode.

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Speaker 1: Fuck this Mayor ship. The mayorshit is the Mayor shit

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Speaker 1: is ruining everything.

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Speaker 3: Imagine if we were both crime bosses, how would be

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Speaker 3: fully Hello, I'm Mallory, a little like, you know, a

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Speaker 3: little criminal vibe. I think we could do it.

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Speaker 2: This is flirting for her. Yes, let me give you.

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Speaker 1: A little upstart gang leader who's talking ship for you

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Speaker 1: to kill.

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Speaker 3: And that's exactly and then he's like, let me bring

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Speaker 3: you home some dinner, so I obviously locked. And also

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Speaker 3: I think the funniest thing about this is like this

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Speaker 3: motherfucker came in with a handgun, Like King Pen has

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Speaker 3: already been shot in the head direct by an assassin

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Speaker 3: who is also his daughter that he acknowledges in this season,

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Speaker 3: and it still didn't kill him. And now he doesn't

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Speaker 3: even wear an eyepatch, Like, you are never gonna kill

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Speaker 3: him with a gun, Luca, that was a terrible idea.

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Speaker 3: You gotta light chop this man's head off or something.

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Speaker 1: In the next few episodes of X ray Vision, join

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Speaker 1: us tomorrow as we act to the Nintendo Direct news

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Speaker 1: switch to News who We've also got news on Saturday

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Speaker 1: and Monday, we're celebrating thirty years of a goofy movie.

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Speaker 2: Oh good friend of the pod, Danny Fernandez. That's it

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Speaker 2: for this episode. Thanks for listening.

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