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Speaker 1: go here to the Detroit Lions, and Kelvin gave a

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Speaker 1: His prediction was that the Lions were going to the

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Speaker 1: super Bowl. And I could not have disagreed more. And

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Speaker 1: I predicted that this would be a bad and off

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Speaker 1: season for the Lions for a lot of reasons, including

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Speaker 1: this schedule, changing coordinators. And I did say to you

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Speaker 1: this was the lock. The Lions had won eight well

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Speaker 1: I just knew what the whole micah and what was

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Speaker 1: But this is this is more about what's going to

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Speaker 1: come forward. That game was just did they show up?

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Speaker 1: Like I was really the Lions. They were flat, the

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Speaker 1: The Lions did not score a touchdown until the final

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Speaker 2: Was that there?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the last little and saying catch it it was

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Speaker 1: And what hasn't didn't happen? No, catches just start looking

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Speaker 2: In the barbaric they're not going back in time? Why not?

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Speaker 4: Because them laces split people's hands open.

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Speaker 1: You, if you're a Lions fan, you should be concerned.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about just one game. This is

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Speaker 4: Absolutely was beyond conservative and boring. And you can tell

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Speaker 2: And you yesterday was to me was like proof pose.

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Speaker 4: That's more concerning with Jared Goff because what we're seeing

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Speaker 2: So if you don't have an offensive line, that's concerning.

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Speaker 4: However, where I actually look at this, this is where

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Speaker 4: Packers absolutely, I expect them to be a postseason team

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Speaker 4: Do they have to be as explosive as they were

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Speaker 4: last year where they've been top they were the best

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Speaker 4: but they absolutely can't be that. And I think we

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Speaker 4: it's not just that they lost.

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Speaker 1: Did you watch the Okay, that's what should be disturbed.

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Speaker 1: Not You could play a good game and lose and

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Speaker 4: The Packers didn't have to have a lot of yards

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Speaker 4: Both of the coordinators are going in their adjusting, and

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Speaker 4: Y'all went to a hostile place that has Super Bowl aspirations,

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Speaker 4: a team that's tired of losing to y'all, got a

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Speaker 2: He only had thirty snaps that shouldn't have been the

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Speaker 2: the juice I'm talking about the city.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm just saying like he didn't have that,

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Speaker 3: He had.

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Speaker 2: What he had though, he had plays with.

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Speaker 4: When we were talking about this on Friday, if you

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Speaker 4: look at Jared Goff's interception, that was Michael Parsons. He

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Speaker 4: blew through the line, gotten Jared face. Jared Goff threw

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Speaker 4: it like that interception. Michael Parsons has a luxury. This

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Speaker 4: is what I was saying. He has a luxury being

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Speaker 4: a von Miller, you just add me. You already got

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Speaker 4: are down, You already got players and everything. The offense

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Speaker 4: should be good. Let me just go make three four

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Speaker 4: special plays a game. That's all I gotta do. And

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Speaker 4: Micah is in that. He doesn't have to be. You know,

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Speaker 4: even Reggie White and everybody keep comparing Rega. They gotta

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Speaker 4: settle down. So all these things you talk, all that

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Speaker 4: They came in filling themselves. Rob They came in. We've

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Speaker 1: Really, Jared Goff has had five different play callers in

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Speaker 4: But I don't expect them to fall off. No, I

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Speaker 4: They can win ten games and not make make the playoffs. Okay,

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Speaker 4: That's why I still expect that team, that offense to

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Speaker 2: I still stand on that.

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Speaker 1: Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox. Was last night's

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Speaker 4: I do want a public service announcement. I know sometimes

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Speaker 2: It's twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: People think that we're like, like you're talking and I'll

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Speaker 1: Eight seven, seven ninety nine On Fox you mean the

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Speaker 8: Hey, here's my take on it. Everybody's getting all excited

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Speaker 1: What about the teams that played well in one games vance?

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Speaker 4: There's so many different, you know, scenarios. You could say

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Speaker 2: But we he got he's got too much baggage that

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Speaker 1: Will in Wisconsin, you're in the odd couple of Fox

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Speaker 2: What's up?

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Speaker 9: Will?

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Speaker 5: What's old enough?

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Speaker 2: That much?

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Speaker 10: That's what I agree with that, And Rob to your point,

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Speaker 2: What was the effort? The effort wasn't there?

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Speaker 1: And how do you come and flat in Green Bay

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Speaker 1: against the Package.

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Speaker 2: It was.

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Speaker 4: It was a bad showing because you know my theory,

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Speaker 4: at least give me something, meaning we're great defensively, offensive,

447
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Speaker 4: struggle or offensive. But I agreed it was bad on

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Speaker 4: that end. They just looked flat. And that's unlike a

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Speaker 4: Dan Campbellton. They might lose, but they at least going

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Speaker 4: to have the fight and gritted them.

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Speaker 2: They had none of that.

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Speaker 4: They need to go back to Detroit Zoo and go

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Speaker 4: go look at the Lions again.

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Speaker 1: Farah in Michigan. Speaking of Michigan, you're on the couple

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Speaker 1: of Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: What's up? Farah?

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Speaker 11: Well, what's good?

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Speaker 5: Rob? What's good?

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Speaker 9: Kevin Washington?

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Speaker 11: Shout out?

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Speaker 5: Emu? Alum, how you go?

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Speaker 9: You?

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Speaker 2: Emu?

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Speaker 11: How you I'm doing all right? So I want to

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Speaker 11: bring up the whole Lions angle that you guys brought up,

466
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Speaker 11: and they're definitely going to take a step back. A

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Speaker 11: lot of people forget that when they started the season

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Speaker 11: in twenty twenty two, they were.

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Speaker 9: Like one in seven going into the going in to

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Speaker 9: the off the the bye week, and they later turned

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Speaker 9: it around, winning like eight out of their next game.

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Speaker 2: That was the start of them being a good team.

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Speaker 9: That so this team is definitely gonna have to take

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Speaker 9: couple games to adjust.

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Speaker 11: No way in how they're winning fifteen games, I'm probably

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Speaker 11: gonna say ten, probably eleven one.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. I'm saying ten games and not

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Speaker 2: make eight is eleven to get my wings.

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Speaker 11: Ten wins is ten wins is good enough to get

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Speaker 11: to playoffs.

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Speaker 9: Eleven wins definitely.

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Speaker 5: The question is.

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Speaker 11: How they're going to finish. The more I'm concern because

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Speaker 11: you want your team streaking into the playoffs, not like

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Speaker 11: you know what Philly did a couple of years ago,

486
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Speaker 11: going in like ten and one and then dropping the

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Speaker 11: last six games to finish the season like eleven and six.

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Speaker 11: You don't want that, right, So what's what happens? We'll

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Speaker 11: here the O line does.

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Speaker 1: The line has to get better to coordinator's got to

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Speaker 1: get better.

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Speaker 4: And this should be a sense of urgency, Like sure,

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Speaker 4: it should be a sense of shout to the pharaoh,

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Speaker 4: thanks for the call. It should be a sense of

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Speaker 4: urgency Rod just because what they're trying to accomplish, Like

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Speaker 4: I think the windows still open, but it ain't wide open,

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Speaker 4: like meaning you know how you get we got seven

498
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Speaker 4: eight years? Like no you want to each year, you

499
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Speaker 4: want to try to get this done, especially when you

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Speaker 4: blew your opportunity last season, but especially against the forty

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Speaker 4: nine ers.

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Speaker 2: So have there better be some urgency up in there.

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Speaker 1: I know, Steve, he was about to come up, but man,

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Speaker 1: I want an impressive drive there by the guy who

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Speaker 1: falls asleep in the training in the meetings and he

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Speaker 1: doesn't watch film and all this stuff.

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Speaker 4: You know how Terror Owen said, that's my quarterback. That's

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Speaker 4: how I feel right now with Ben Johnson. Steve, that's all.

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Speaker 2: It's a coordinator.

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 2: All right, Steve, that lost Friday? Was it Friday Night? Saturday? Saturday?

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Speaker 1: That was the worst game I've ever I've seen when

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Speaker 1: you not only give up a no hitter.

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Speaker 2: You lose the game.

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Speaker 4: I think no hitter with two outs in the ninth inning.

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Speaker 4: You talking about what what do you call it today?

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Speaker 4: Magic City Monday? But also what show you? What show

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Speaker 4: your ass? That been a show the next day for us?

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Speaker 4: You'd have been acting crazy here, You'd have been acting crazy.

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Speaker 4: That was absurd loss. That was I was absolutely confusing

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Speaker 4: right there. And now where I heard about the loss

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Speaker 4: was that a game. That's where I ran into somebody.

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Speaker 4: Shout out to TJ. Who'sman is out of our guests now?

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Speaker 4: Former Pro Bowl wide receiver, co host of Up on

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Speaker 4: Game on Fox Sports Radio, Ake Knee stiff back Joyce

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Speaker 4: not cooperate. Some days your body is just like no.

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Speaker 4: And on those days, luckily there's leave on peel. The

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Speaker 4: league provides up to twelve hours of paying release so

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Speaker 4: you can keep moving. Use as director. You have them days.

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Speaker 2: TJ now out of the league from days.

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Speaker 5: Not yet, but I'm sure they coming. Man, you just

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Speaker 5: gotta stay active. You stay active, or try to stay active.

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Speaker 5: You good like I'm at every time we do this.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna be at football practice and We're gonna do

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Speaker 5: some conditioning after practice. I'm conditioning with the kids, So

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Speaker 5: I'm trying to stay active.

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Speaker 1: There you go where you want to start? Rob My

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Speaker 1: former podcast partner TJ. Houschman Zado the Lemon Pepper parly.

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Speaker 1: Remember we had a great man.

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Speaker 5: We were killing that thing.

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Speaker 2: Rob killing that bang good one.

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Speaker 1: Let's go here, Uh, you're a price, So you didn't.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you saw Kleb's first drive?

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Speaker 2: Did you see it? Or no?

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Speaker 5: No? No, I have a t boat, I have a t.

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Speaker 2: Vow be able to watch. Yeah, they just morshed down.

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Speaker 2: You look really good.

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Speaker 1: Six for six, five different receivers rended in for nine years.

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Speaker 5: That's not good. That's looking great.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know when you're when you you're mixing the

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Speaker 1: ball around. I'm expecting big things from him with Ben Johnson,

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Speaker 1: like what I saw in that drive.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm expecting. That's my core.

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Speaker 5: And the reason I agree with you, Rob is because

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Speaker 5: did you just did you watch that Green Bay Packer

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Speaker 5: Detroit Lione game than you? I don't want to get

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Speaker 5: ahead of myself, yep. But the Detroit Lions may be cooked, taj.

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Speaker 2: I tried to tell them that. I'm with you.

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Speaker 5: Man, they might be cooked. And play calling, when you

563
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Speaker 5: call the play, the creativity, they didn't have that against

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Speaker 5: Green Bay. Now, green Bay is really good on defense.

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Speaker 5: They're probably gonna be the number one defensive league this year.

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Speaker 5: So let me see how these next two weeks go.

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Speaker 5: But if they not going up and down the field

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Speaker 5: like they did with Ben Johnson, they cooked, they chopped.

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Speaker 2: Well, that that's my biggest thing. I told Rob that.

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Speaker 4: I think they went up against a very good Packers

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Speaker 4: team who had one of the best defenses last year,

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Speaker 4: with a bunch of young, hardy guys, and you, Adam Micah,

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Speaker 4: so I think you saw the worst case scenario for them. U.

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Speaker 4: But let's say just say, on the Packers, how are

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Speaker 4: your expectations for them? How far can they go? Is

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Speaker 4: this the year they finally look at maybe a Super Bowl?

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Speaker 5: Man? Kevin listen, So I try to I try to

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Speaker 5: do this every year before the season starts. I picked

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Speaker 5: the Super Bowl teams that will compete. In the last

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Speaker 5: five years, I'm four out of five. Okay, this year

581
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Speaker 5: I got the Green Bay Packers, and so my heart

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Speaker 5: tells me.

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Speaker 2: To go with the.

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Speaker 5: Bengals, But my head is telling me it's going to

585
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Speaker 5: be the Packers and the Chargers.

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Speaker 4: So are you You definitely better go with your head

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Speaker 4: because the heart they needed you last night.

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Speaker 2: Seven yards Bengals the second half. That's not even possible.

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Speaker 5: Is it now? We you can't. You can't play the

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Speaker 5: Cleveland Browns and let Miles Garrett ruin the game like

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Speaker 5: you just can't let that happen. I'm sending three guys

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Speaker 5: out in pass protection if it means Miles Garrett quarterback, Like,

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Speaker 5: we can't let him wreck the game. And until that happens,

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Speaker 5: that's what's gonna always. But I'm going to Green Bay

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Speaker 5: Packers in the Super Bowl against the Los Angeles Chargers.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Hey TJ.

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you, this is what impressed me

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Speaker 1: the most about Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday. They couldn't run the ball.

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Speaker 1: The defense was bad, and your quarterback won you a game.

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Speaker 1: Like they couldn't run the ball, they were one dimensional,

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Speaker 1: and he still made the play, still had four touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: What did you make of his first game with the Steelers.

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Speaker 5: I thought Aaron Rodgers was unbelievable. Man. He looked like

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Speaker 5: the twenty twenty one Aaron Rodgers because that was the

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Speaker 5: last great season that he had, and so normally it's

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty two, twenty three. Obviously he gets hurt in

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Speaker 5: twenty You don't at that age play just as good

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Speaker 5: as you did three four years ago when you weren't

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Speaker 5: able to do it. And so what I saw to

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Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers, I was impressed. Man. If one thing about

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Speaker 5: the Steelers what we saw yesterday defensively, that's not the normal.

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Speaker 5: I don't figure out.

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Speaker 2: Also, right, they were awful yesterday.

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Speaker 5: They're gonna be a top six to seven defense. You

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Speaker 5: can chalk that up. If he can continue to play

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Speaker 5: like this, who the ABC is gonna be a blood

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Speaker 5: bath because you know that they gonna move the ball

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Speaker 5: up and down the field and that defense with TJ Wise,

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Speaker 5: Cam Hayward, Jayleen Ramsey, it's gonna be a problem. They

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Speaker 5: just need to play a little bit together. But defense

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Speaker 5: wasn't good. But Jaylen Ramsey made a play when a

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Speaker 5: play needed to be made, and that's all you want.

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Speaker 1: Hey, real quick, on that play, I want to ask

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Speaker 1: you ToJ Is that a hospital pass there? I mean,

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Speaker 1: was that you know what I mean? For a receiver?

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Speaker 1: Was that the right pass? Because he you know, obviously

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Speaker 1: he got.

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Speaker 2: Rock Ramsey thought he was Ronnie Lowe. What I mean,

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Speaker 2: like like or was that?

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Speaker 5: That's not a So what happened? Garrett Wilson thought nobody

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Speaker 5: was around, so he was gonna catch and run. Normally

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Speaker 5: you catch that and curl up. That ball's not coming

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Speaker 5: out when you get hit. But he was trying to

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Speaker 5: get up the field. He didn't understand that somebody was

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Speaker 5: right there because Justin Field's really was going to run

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Speaker 5: the ball until he realized, like, oh I may not

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Speaker 5: make this. Garrett Wilson is wide open here. So Garrett

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Speaker 5: Wilson just kind of covers up. I believe he catches

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Speaker 5: the ball. The ball didn't come out, but that's a

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Speaker 5: great play by a great player in James Brill.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. TJ.

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Speaker 4: Housman was out of our guest, former Pro Bowl receiver

644
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Speaker 4: co host up up on game on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 4: Who's eighty four on X There's a a bunch of

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Speaker 4: other good games too throughout the first week, but I

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Speaker 4: want to go to the one of the earlier ones

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Speaker 4: we saw with the Chiefs. They we already know Rashid

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Speaker 4: Rice is out. Then Worthy boom first play look showed

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Speaker 4: her dislocated. They're saying day to day, we don't know.

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Speaker 4: When you look at this season for them, what do

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Speaker 4: you expect out of Patrick Mahomes who said last year

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Speaker 4: maybe he was tight. They were forcing it, they were

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Speaker 4: trying to three peat. How do you look at this

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Speaker 4: season for them and what needs to happen for them

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Speaker 4: to They went fifteen to two, but we all know

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Speaker 4: it wasn't the best version of them.

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Speaker 5: I felt like going into this season, the Chiefs win

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Speaker 5: the ANC West nine years in a row, I didn't

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Speaker 5: believe this year would be ten. I believe the Chargers

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Speaker 5: are gonna win the AFC West, and I said that

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00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 5: before the season started, even before they played that game.

663
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 5: The Chiefs are gonna be good. The problem is they've been.

664
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Speaker 5: They're gonna always get another team's best shot. You always

665
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 5: gonna be ready to play them. I just have never

666
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 5: seen two offensive players run crossing routes and collde I've

667
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 5: never seen that before, and not only collide, You collide

668
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 5: and you're out like for a few games. I've never

669
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 5: seen that. But I just have the confidence that Patrick

670
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 5: Mahomes and Andy Reek can figure this out. Defensively, the

671
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 5: Chargers did whatever they want to do, like.

672
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Speaker 2: It did justin Herbert looked like who everybody thought you

673
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 2: should be.

674
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Speaker 1: You know, finally it was. It was the full package

675
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: and he played great as well.

676
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Speaker 2: I do want to.

677
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Speaker 1: Say this though, TJ. I'm down on John Harball and

678
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: I think he should be fired. With the waiver who

679
00:29:55,800 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: they have had and TJ so many seven team double

680
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: digit second half losses that when I think of the Ravens,

681
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: I'm always disappointed, like they got their team is loaded, loaded,

682
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: And I know he won a Super Bowl many moons ago,

683
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: but at some point I think he's Mike McCarthy's turned

684
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: in and you wake up one day and you realize eight, ten,

685
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 1: twelve years is gone by and you didn't win.

686
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 2: And I'm dead serious.

687
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Speaker 5: Rob, I cannot agree with that tape because I'm a

688
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 5: fan of har Ball. I think he's a hell of

689
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 5: a coach. He can't make Derrick carry not fumble the ball,

690
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 5: but he didn't have had nothing to do with.

691
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 2: But he's turned into Doc Rivers.

692
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: Like Doc Rivers won a championship two and you were

693
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: You're always disappointed in Doc Rivers team every year with

694
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: the Ravens, I'm disappointed that like they the way that

695
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: they go out, not that you just got beat by

696
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: a better team or it's just like there's always something

697
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: you remember the game. And I'll just end on this

698
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: for me, when they played the Chiefs in the AFC Championship.

699
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 2: Game and they had Lamar throw the ball on every down,

700
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 2: do you remember that?

701
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Speaker 5: Yes, I'll say this. What concerns me about the Ravens. Offensively,

702
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 5: they're going to be fine. Derrick Carry is not gone.

703
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 5: No if with a ball like that when it matters often,

704
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 5: I'll say that what concerns me what the Ravens is

705
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 5: defensively on paper, they should have one of the best second,

706
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 5: if not the best. You have Marlin Humphrey, you have

707
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 5: Kyle Hamilton, you have jyro Alexander, and you have Nate Wiggins.

708
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 5: Those dudes right there are really good players. They have

709
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 5: to make a play when the play needs to be made.

710
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 5: Like Josh Allen had Damn Mere had a game with

711
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 5: the passing yards.

712
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 2: In a fourth quarter, right, ridiculous, ridiculous.

713
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 5: So he threw for over two hundred yards in a

714
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 5: fourth quarter. That to me is the biggest problem is defensively,

715
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 5: they need to get a stop. They need to keep

716
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 5: contained on a mobile quarterback like Josh Allen, stop letting

717
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 5: him get out of the pocket. But I'm not firing Halbhi.

718
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 5: He's one of the top seven coaches in the league,

719
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 5: no way what I find I'm not even thinking about

720
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 5: firing him. They just got to finish. They gotta finish.

721
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: And this is another thing they or he I mean,

722
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: at some point, don't you He has to get some

723
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: of the blame as well because his team can't finish.

724
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 5: He can't that bubbled by Dereck Henry. What can he

725
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 5: do about that? Because if Derek Carry don't fumble, the

726
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 5: game's over.

727
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 2: I get that, But I'm saying this is not just

728
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 2: last night.

729
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Speaker 1: Seventeen double digit loss, seven years seventeen TJ.

730
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Speaker 2: That's an unbelievable number.

731
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Speaker 5: Let me tell you what should happen. This is just

732
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 5: my opinion. When you have a mobile quarterback like Lamar Jackson, right,

733
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 5: you want to spread out. So now things read like

734
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 5: I'm not running many tight formations with Lamar Jackson. So

735
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 5: now blitches can come from anywhere and they're closer. I'm

736
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 5: gonna spread you out. I'm gonna spread you out. Now

737
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 5: if you want to blitch, you got a blitch from

738
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 5: a distance or are you gonna show it? And now

739
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 5: Lamar can either gas you in a run game or

740
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 5: hit somebody in the passing game, like give me some

741
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 5: more four or five wives when you do throw the ball,

742
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 5: because it makes it easier for Lamar his athleticism. You

743
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 5: can't play that way with him.

744
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 4: Well, listen, man, I was with you we had this

745
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 4: whole That's how we started the show. I said, I'm

746
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 4: not letting John Harball go. I understand he definitely has

747
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 4: some issues and some games he want to have Doc Rivers.

748
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 2: He can be fired. No, he's definitely better than Doc Rivers, though.

749
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 5: Under I played under Harrball, Man, I played under a

750
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 5: lot of coaches towards the end of my career. Bro

751
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 5: Harball is not a good coach. He's a great coach.

752
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 5: The way he relates to guys and meetings like, it's

753
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 5: just different. It's different when a guy gets in front

754
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 5: of the team and he speaks and you listen and

755
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 5: you really believe what he's saying. Is a lot of

756
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 5: coaches they get up there and talk and you'd be

757
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 5: like Charlie Brown, Bro, like, I'm not you.

758
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 4: Hey, TJ, we're up against it. Man, appreciate you as always, Mabe.

759
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 4: What have you on next week?

760
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Speaker 1: Remember TJ Sports has a short MANU wins and losses.

761
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Speaker 2: That's all I got you.

762
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 5: You're right about that, to go condition, all right, all right,

763
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 5: go get it in.

764
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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 4: We were just talking about the bills, Rob. We gotta

766
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 4: ask is this actually possible? The way the bills are

767
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:09,479
Speaker 4: utilizing Josh Allen.

768
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Speaker 2: Can that win? We'll tell you.

769
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Speaker 4: Next to the yacht couple Robin Kelvin on a Magic

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Speaker 4: City Monday, Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 4: It is the couple Rob Parker Kelvin, Washington on this

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Speaker 4: Magic City Monday.

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Speaker 2: What is this? Power one o five? What is this? Wait?

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Speaker 2: What you what you like? Instead?

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Speaker 5: Sir?

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Speaker 2: On this? Uh power one o six? Right there?

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Speaker 4: Shout to tej Whow York. Yeah, one on six. Yeah,

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789
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Speaker 4: time for your Express Pro the Week. The Pro of

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Speaker 4: the Week goes to Bill's quarterback Josh Allen, the reigning

791
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,399
Speaker 4: NFL MVP, accounted for four hundred and twenty four total

792
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 4: yards four touchdowns in there. Thrilling comeback went over Baltimore.

793
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 4: So again, congratt to Josh Allen for being our express

794
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 4: pro of the week, which leads to our conversation here

795
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 4: for a few minutes rob.

796
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 2: That game.

797
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 4: I wish that was the super Bowl, Like I'm wishing

798
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 4: that AFC NFC blah blah, because da that's the super Bowl.

799
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 2: I would want to see if they in a perfect

800
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 2: world we could create a super Bowl.

801
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 4: I want those two quarterbacks, those two teams playing in

802
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 4: the super Bowl, but it can't happen. We can get

803
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 4: best get in then AFC Championship game. The game was incredible.

804
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 4: Lamar did what Lamar does, Derek Henry, like all the

805
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 4: stars showed up. You know what, it reminds me of

806
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 4: remember that Texas USC game where all the big stars,

807
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 4: like everybody who was supposed to play well play well.

808
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 2: That's what that looked like, all the stars there.

809
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 4: They played some top notch football except for the secondary

810
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 4: of the Ravens. Towards the end, Josh Allen, the Bills

811
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 4: have set themselves up where they just say, look, man,

812
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 4: you are our Luca with the MAVs might be with

813
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 4: the Lakers once Lebron leaves Allen iverson. You are our

814
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 4: Lebron where the team is set up based on you.

815
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,320
Speaker 4: Carry the load. We're down, figure it out. We getting

816
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 4: up because of you. They have receivers, but none of

817
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 4: them are spectacular. They got runners, none of them are

818
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,919
Speaker 4: spectacular defense eh, but Josh Allen just creates for them

819
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 4: whatever they need to get over the top. And it

820
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 4: is actually been insane to see last season he jumping

821
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 4: over people looking like Superman into snow and he was

822
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 4: able to do that to the tune up two hundred

823
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,399
Speaker 4: and fifty plus yards rob in the fourth quarter, two touchdowns.

824
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 2: That is insane what he was able to do.

825
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,399
Speaker 4: We talked about Joe Burrow, one of the other four

826
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 4: horsemen of the quarterbacks. He had seven yards and a

827
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,240
Speaker 4: whole half two point fifty for Josh Allen.

828
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 2: That was a crazy game.

829
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:00,399
Speaker 4: And again I think we're just looking at the two

830
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 4: guys for the next five years who are going to

831
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 4: be competing for MVPs. It'll bounce back and forth between

832
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 4: Lamar Josh Josh Lamar, Lamar Josh Josh Lamar. It'll go

833
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 4: back and forth. And that was an incredible game. But

834
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 4: you gotta tip your hat to Josh Allen, who the

835
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 4: load is on him. He has to do so much

836
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 4: to get it done, and it looked like he wasn't

837
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 4: going to in that second half. Man, I gotta hey,

838
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,760
Speaker 4: when I see some great play from any position, any sport,

839
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 4: got tip your hat. And that was remarkable to see

840
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 4: from Josh Allen. Two hundred and fifty plus yards in

841
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 4: the fourth quarter two touchdowns is absolutely crazy.

842
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt.

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00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: I mean, they open the door and that was a

844
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: collapse by Baltimore, but he up the door was open

845
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: and he took advantage of it. And that's what players

846
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,919
Speaker 1: do when they're great and talented. But you know, it's

847
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 1: like to you know, always goes back to the Tom

848
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: Brady beating the Atlanta Falcons, you know in that Super Bowl,

849
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: Like you can't, you can't Tom Brady can't do that

850
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 1: unless you are on the other side allow him and

851
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: open the door for him.

852
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 2: All you gotta do is like make one fuel goal,

853
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 2: do you know what I mean? Like you know what

854
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 2: I mean or whatever.

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00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: And and that's the part that's that's uh mind boggling,

856
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 1: is that's all it takes. And if and and you

857
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: just talked about it, if if Derek Henry doesn't fumbles

858
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 1: at TJ, you know what I mean, you win the game.

859
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 2: That was That was insane because Derek Henry is not

860
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 2: a fumble lay like that was.

861
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Speaker 1: It happens, and and and but but you have to

862
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: be able to respond. And they weren't able and they

863
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: let the door open, and Josh took advantage of it.

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Speaker 4: By the way, two ways to lose to me, and

865
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 4: one you see happen the most. I'm glad you brought

866
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 4: the Falcons. The Falcons way of losing was scared. Let's

867
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,439
Speaker 4: just okay, we're up. Okay, let's play against the clock.

868
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 4: We're scared to lose. Stop p let's stop playing. Okay,

869
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 4: come on clock, we can get the game over. They

870
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 4: played scared, scared money, don't make money. The other one

871
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 4: is we already got this game in the bag.

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00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 2: And I think the Braves secondary we're already at the club.

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00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 4: I think they were already all right, shoot, I'm going tonight, baby,

874
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 4: all right, when I'm at shooting New York.

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00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 2: We gonna shoot in the York and Toronto. We're up fifteen.

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00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 2: We got this game, ambery Ga lamar and they got

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00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 2: housed in that fourth,