1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,719 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Sam. This is John, the og story 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Time podcast host. 3 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we got some great stories coming up. 4 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: But before that, we get a teeny two minute break 5 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: from the sponsors that keep this show propped up like 6 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 1: a little house. 7 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, my brother once forgiveness, but I'm not sure 8 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 2: if I'm ready to forgive, then he ain't getting any 9 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 2: My forty female childhood was rough. I am the youngest 10 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 2: of three. I have two older brothers, George forty five 11 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:27,639 Speaker 2: mail and Mike forty three mail. By the way, this 12 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 2: comes from and Throwaway two thirty four fifty four. And 13 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 2: if you want to submit your own stories, go to 14 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 2: the r slash okay story to m supper at it 15 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 2: And I'm Angie, I'm Sophia, and we're here to give 16 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 2: good advice Googly, but we don't have all the answers. 17 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 2: We just know we would do in this situation. So 18 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 2: let us know what you would do in the comments. 19 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 2: And ohp says Mike and I are close, but George 20 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 2: and I had a very strange relationship. George is the 21 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 2: golden child. He could never do anything wrong. Oh George. 22 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 2: Mike suffered a bit because of it, but it wasn't 23 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 2: like how it was for me. I know people will 24 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 2: say that he probably should have protected me, but I 25 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 2: understand I'm not doing so he needed to protect himself 26 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 2: as well. I did not blame him at all for this. 27 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 2: I would have probably done the same. George would essentially 28 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 2: terrorize me all day long, making my life hellish just 29 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 2: because I was born. I was a very sick child, 30 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 2: so the attention wasn't always on him, which he hated. 31 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 2: Our mother didn't want me. She made that very clear. 32 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 2: She only had me to try to keep my dad, 33 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 2: as she knew he had desperately wanted a daughter. I 34 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 2: moved out on my eighteenth birthday. First of all, crazy, 35 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 2: that's just so early to move back. So yeah, oh 36 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 2: my gosh, but all of that is that just sucks. 37 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 2: I actually sneaked out in the middle of the night 38 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,119 Speaker 2: with my bag and moved in with my high school 39 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 2: boyfriend now forty one male as we got married the 40 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 2: day after I turned eighteen. 41 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, y'all still married. 42 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 2: We are still married to this day. 43 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: Wow, thirty four, I'm pretty sure she's another four. Well, oh, 44 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: maybe she's thirty. Wait, no, I think about forty Okay, yeah, 45 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: forty forty four day. 46 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:04,639 Speaker 2: Wow. Props to you guys. Good job. That's wow. Though 47 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 2: I do not recommend getting married so young. It was difficult. 48 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 2: My mother didn't realize I was gone for four days 49 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 2: before she called the police to try and get me 50 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 2: brought home, as I would often leave the house and 51 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 2: stay with my boyfriend and his mother for a couple 52 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 2: of days before mine would call the police and have 53 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 2: me brought home. I'm sorry, Uh, what, you're eighteen? Yeah? 54 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: What's you gonna do? 55 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? He can't do anything. 56 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: Now, you do anything. As long as she knows that 57 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: you know you're alive, the police aren't gonna take They 58 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: can't take you back. 59 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. And also crazy that even if you did 60 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 2: that before you were eighteen, she didn't like what try 61 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 2: to call you first? Yeah, just go straight to the police. Police, 62 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 2: Come on. I wish I had been there to see 63 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 2: her face when the police told her that they couldn't 64 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 2: remove me from my marital home. 65 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: Ah. 66 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 2: My dad was a very weak man. Well, I know 67 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 2: he did love me and did care for me. He 68 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 2: would often bend to whatever my mother wanted. He worked 69 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 2: long hours to provide and would just agree to whatever 70 00:02:57,880 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 2: she wanted for an easy life. When I left home. 71 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 2: The only contact I had with my family was with Mike. 72 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 2: Over the years, I have opened up contact with my dad, 73 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 2: he was very much kept at arm's length. I only 74 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 2: allowed contact when I was in the right headspace to 75 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 2: deal with it. I made sure that he understood of 76 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 2: my mother or George ever contacted me or turned up 77 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 2: when we met up, then I would go no contact 78 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 2: and he would never hear from me again. I just 79 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 2: completely disappear. I made it very clear to Mike and 80 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 2: Dad that I did not want to hear about my 81 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 2: mother or George. The only time this request was broken 82 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 2: was when my mother passed away. WHOA. My dad messaged 83 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 2: me to tell me that she had passed and gave 84 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 2: me the details for the funeral if I wanted to attend. 85 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 2: I responded with just a good and did not attend 86 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 2: the funeral. 87 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: Back very strained relationship with her. 88 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. Recently, my father has passed as well. I did 89 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 2: attend his funeral and I saw George for the first 90 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 2: time in years. At the wake. George approached my husband 91 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 2: and me as we were in a corner quietly talking 92 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 2: with Mike. As soon as I noticed him approaching, I moved, 93 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 2: going to talk to a relative anything, so I didn't 94 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 2: have to talk to George. This happened two to three 95 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 2: more times before he gave up trying to approach me 96 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 2: though his wife, who had no idea he was married. 97 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 2: Wait what or maybe I had no idea? 98 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: Yeah? 99 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 2: Married? Yeah, it's like well, I would hope so she 100 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 2: would know that. 101 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: She had no idea that he was married to her. 102 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. This happened two to three more times before he 103 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 2: gave up trying to approach me though. His wife, who, 104 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 2: by the way, I had no idea he was married, 105 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 2: tried to corner me in the toilets to get me 106 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 2: to talk to him, and I rather crudely told her 107 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 2: to f off. We left. Just after this we got 108 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 2: to the funeral, I got an email to my work email, 109 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 2: which can be found easily online as our work emails 110 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 2: are on the website, from George. I did chuck with 111 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 2: Mike that this was George's email. He confirmed it and 112 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 2: told me that George had said it at the wake 113 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 2: that he was going to email my work email. I 114 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 2: should have deleted it then and there, but I decided 115 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 2: to open it. In the email, he told me about 116 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,919 Speaker 2: how his life had become difficult after I left. It 117 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 2: did say that he was proud of the things that 118 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 2: I had done and was glad to see that I 119 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 2: was still happy with my husband. He talked about his 120 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 2: regular use with booze and pain medications, and how my 121 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 2: mother had put all this pressure on him to succeed, 122 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 2: and how he realized that he just wasn't good at 123 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 2: anything despite being told for years that he was the 124 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 2: best and perfect. He had been in therapy for the 125 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 2: last fifteen or so years and had come to the 126 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 2: realization that he had been awful to me and hadn't 127 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 2: realized he was capable of the things he did. He 128 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 2: stated that having his daughter made him open his eyes 129 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 2: to how he had been to me, and if anyone 130 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 2: had treated her the way he did me, then he 131 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 2: would have defended her. He was asking me for forgiveness 132 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 2: and wanted us to be able to move on. In 133 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 2: the email, he said that he was asking for my 134 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 2: forgiveness to help in his recovery to become a better 135 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 2: husband and dad. I'm not sure I'm ready to forgive. 136 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 2: I have trauma from what happened, and I don't think 137 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 2: it'll ever go away. I have been seeing a therapist 138 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 2: for the last few years. I have spoken with my 139 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 2: husband about it, and he has told me that I 140 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 2: should just delete it. He doesn't think any good will 141 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 2: come from allowing George back into my life. He thinks 142 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 2: that George has just chosen now to reach out because 143 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,679 Speaker 2: I'm currently hurting emotionally from the loss of my dad. 144 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 2: He did also say that the first time I walked 145 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 2: away from George at the wake, George got annoyed and 146 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 2: told Mike that I was still acting like a little witch. 147 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 2: I always was. Okay, so so all of that is 148 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 2: a lie? Then, yeah, this really I really don't want 149 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 2: to believe that you You just had a massive change 150 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:22,239 Speaker 2: of heart. Yeah. 151 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: I mean if he literally said that to your husband, 152 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: then he's the same guy and we need to stay 153 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: far away from him. 154 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was to Mike, but still it's like if 155 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 2: Mike was the husband, who's Mike, Mike is the other brother. 156 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, okay, yeah, if you said that to 157 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: your brother, I wouldn't trust him. 158 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 2: And that was just after one time. Like even the 159 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 2: fact that George's wife confronted her in the bathroom and 160 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 2: he's like, you got you gotta go talk to him. 161 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 2: It's like already with that. I'm like, okay, there's absolutely 162 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 2: no change of heart. 163 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: No, you already have one good brother. We don't need 164 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: a second. 165 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. It's been almost twenty three years since I 166 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 2: cut contact, and I'm starting to doubt myself. Should I 167 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 2: forgive and try and forge a relationship with him or 168 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 2: is it best to just keep to no contact? And 169 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 2: there are some comments and a bit more to the story, 170 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 2: But what would you say. 171 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: I mean, before we learn about the oh, this is 172 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: just behaving like the witch she always is. I would 173 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: have suggested sending an email saying, hey, I'm not ready 174 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: for contact. 175 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 2: Sure, thanks for reaching out. 176 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I just don't think I'm there yet, And 177 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: I'll let you know if I ever am sure. And 178 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: I think if you wanted to send something, that would 179 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: be the thing to send. Yeah, because it doesn't seem 180 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: like you are ready for it, So don't let anyone 181 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: push you into something that you don't want totally or isn't. 182 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 2: Healthy for you. 183 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: But after that, yeah, conversation, I'm like, honestly, maybe we 184 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: just don't even spond. 185 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 2: I really, yeah, honestly, you don't. I don't think you 186 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 2: really need to respond. I really I feel like this 187 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 2: is all just kind of either wrong or just like 188 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 2: kind of spitting maybe what the therapist told him, Like, 189 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 2: I don't really believe that this is just his original 190 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 2: thought of the situation, nor do I, but we do 191 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 2: have some comments coming. Number one says his email has 192 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:16,119 Speaker 2: the language and tone of someone who is still regularly 193 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 2: using and still does not understand what it means to 194 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 2: make amends with the puel he's hurt. His email is 195 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 2: just a litany of meybe me, oh boo, poor me. 196 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 2: You have to forgive me so I can feel good 197 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 2: about myself. If he felt true remorse for how he 198 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 2: made your childhood a living heck, he would have offered 199 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 2: a sincere apology. He would have said he understood if 200 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 2: you never spoke to him again. If he was honestly 201 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 2: sorry for the terror and pain he inflicted on you, 202 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 2: he would understand how cluelessly selfish he is to ask 203 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 2: you for forgiveness, how astonishingly ignorant he is to expect 204 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 2: you to make him feel better about himself. He has 205 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 2: not changed. Don't respond to discard any communication that comes 206 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 2: from him. And that's the end of that comment. There 207 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 2: is an update, Yeah, Yeah, I think that's very well said. 208 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 2: He really did kind of just say like, oh, I'm sorry, 209 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 2: like this has been what's happening. This has been what's happening. 210 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 2: And while like an explanation doesn't always hurt, it's like 211 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 2: there's definitely more explaining than there was, like apologizing, yeah, 212 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,079 Speaker 2: I mean, which makes it seem like an excuse. 213 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels like he wants Ope to comment and 214 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: fix him for his family. Mm hmmm, because he doesn't 215 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: want to do more work. He's like, oh, if I, 216 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,559 Speaker 1: you know, make it right with Ope, then everyone will 217 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: see that I'm you know, good. 218 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 2: Now everything's fine. When it's like, well, I mean, he 219 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 2: still it doesn't really change. I don't know. There's just 220 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 2: more to this that like I don't know, like I 221 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 2: don't know how he's acting towards his daughter. Doesn't like 222 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 2: nothing about this situation is going to change that situation. 223 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 2: So like still be good to hurt, But that is 224 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:53,079 Speaker 2: me just speculating. Agreed, but there is an update. Thank 225 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 2: you everyone who has commented. I know some of you 226 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 2: have said that he has likely gotten in touch because 227 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 2: he requires something for me, like a kidney. Interesting. Fortunately, 228 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,719 Speaker 2: if this is the case, he would be crap out 229 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 2: a lot. Admittedly, finding out I had a niece out 230 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 2: there did knock me slightly. I've always wished for my 231 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 2: children to have cousins, but my husband is an only child, 232 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 2: and Mike can't have children and first to be child free, 233 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 2: though he loves my children. Though after having spoken with Mike, 234 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 2: it sounds like the apple hasn't fallen far from the tree. 235 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 2: Mike sees a lot of Georgie's behaviors as a kid 236 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 2: in her and he has taken a step back from 237 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 2: them because of it. Oh wow, I know some of 238 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 2: you will be disappointed, but I did decide to respond 239 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 2: to Georgie's email. I had several emails in my inbox 240 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 2: from George pressing me for a response. Not a great start. 241 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 2: I told him that there is absolutely no way he 242 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 2: will ever be getting forgiveness from me, as his email 243 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 2: showed me that, as per usual, it was about him. 244 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 2: I live with the physical and mental scars he inflicted 245 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 2: every day. I told him that not once in his 246 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 2: email had he said what exactly he wanted forgiveness for, 247 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 2: as he never specified one incident. He didn't want to 248 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 2: improve himself, he wanted to make himself look good. 249 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great point in not even apologizing for 250 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: specific incidents, just saying yeah, sorry. 251 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 2: You know I treated you that way like I had 252 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,319 Speaker 2: my daughter and I realized that I didn't want to 253 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 2: hurt her. So oh, yeah, sorry that I hurt you. 254 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: Forgive me. 255 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 2: Please write and it's like, okay, well, what are. 256 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: You sorry for? 257 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 2: Specific? What happened? How did you hurt me? 258 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: What do Yeah, what do you think you did? 259 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 2: Yeah? 260 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: I need to hear from you. I need to hear 261 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: that you I don't know like nicolek did bullied specifics. Yeah, 262 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: so I know that you know what you're apologizing for. 263 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. We had no contact for twenty three years 264 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 2: to work on himself, and he was no different than 265 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 2: the man child he was at twenty three. I told 266 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 2: him I do not want any more contact with him, 267 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 2: and if he continues to contact me, I will go 268 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 2: to the police for intimidation. I told him not to 269 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 2: go to Mike to find out things from me, because 270 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 2: Mike knows better than to talk to him about me. 271 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 2: I finished the email with in the future, if you 272 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 2: are wanting to ask someone for forgiveness and maybe don't 273 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 2: call them a little witch and of their brother and 274 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 2: their husband. Oh so his I have marked his email 275 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 2: and address as a spam. There is a little bit 276 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 2: more to the story, but I think that's great. 277 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: I think that was a great response totally because it 278 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: you know, George gets what he wants in that, he 279 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: gets a response, and then you get to say, hey, 280 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:21,079 Speaker 1: leave me alone. Yeah, this is how I feel about it, 281 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: and nothing that you do is going to change that exactly, 282 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 1: and hopefully he gets the message. 283 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 2: You're absolutely right and the comments are absolutely right, as 284 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 2: like pointing out that he really doesn't want actual forgiveness. 285 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 2: He doesn't actually feel bad, he just doesn't want to 286 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 2: look bad. 287 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 1: Yeah. 288 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 2: So I have also spoken with Mike and reinforced that 289 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 2: I do not want to speak to George or have 290 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 2: contact with him. Mike mentioned that George had been asking 291 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 2: more and more about me since Dad passed, but he 292 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 2: has repeatedly told George that he is respecting my decision 293 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 2: and will not be talking to him about me or 294 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 2: my family. Mike also mentioned that George had been trying 295 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 2: to find out what I was getting in the will, 296 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 2: and he thinks this is why George is trying to 297 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 2: ask for forgiveness and in case it's a clause in 298 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 2: the will or something. I am not in the will. 299 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 2: I know this because when my dad was making his 300 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 2: will after my mother passed away, I asked him not 301 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 2: to include me. I didn't want to have to face 302 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,839 Speaker 2: George at a will reading, so I asked, plus, nothing 303 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 2: in a will could give me back the one thing 304 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 2: that I would rather have my dad. Dad agreed and 305 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 2: didn't add me to the will. Mike has always said 306 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 2: that he will split everything he receives with me, but 307 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 2: I have told him, while that is a nice gesture, 308 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 2: I would rather he kept it to himself. And that's it. Wow. Sorry, Wow, 309 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 2: that's such a I don't know. 310 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: I mean, like I understand sentiment wise, but that is 311 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 1: still a big sacrifice to make. Yeah, and it's clear 312 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 1: that you're prioritizing, you know, your mental health. 313 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 2: And your Yeah, I mean a peace. If it was 314 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 2: that bad, if George was that bad that even a 315 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 2: will reading, you didn't want to have to see him, Like, 316 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 2: that's some serious stuff went down. 317 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 318 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 2: So I think that's actually super valid A Uh, well, 319 00:13:57,720 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 2: I guess valid isn't the right word. I think that's 320 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 2: super probable reason that George could be reaching out to 321 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 2: get something from the will makes sense for sure, But 322 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 2: either way, I think you made a decision with not, 323 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 2: you know, trying to forgive him. You know what you 324 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 2: gotta do. You're forty, you don't need, you don't need, 325 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 2: You don't need this. 326 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: Drama in your life anymore, and you clearly aren't gonna 327 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: have it in your life. 328 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 2: Good for you. But that's the end of that story. 329 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 2: We've got another one, he sure do. 330 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: I told my brother he can't stay with me if 331 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: he brings his prosthetic leg. I'm sorry, what you can't 332 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: live with me if you want to walk? My younger 333 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: brother has a prosthetic leg. I think it's creepy. You're 334 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: immediately the a hole. You're so immediately the a whole. 335 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: It's not even funny. 336 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 2: That's crazy. 337 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: And I have no idea where he got it. What 338 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: are you talking about? 339 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 2: Not on his leg? Is it just a separate he does? 340 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 2: He already have two of his own legs. It's just 341 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 2: a separate leg. 342 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: I am reasonably certain that it's something I would rather 343 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: not know. By the way, this comes from appropriate ELK 344 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: twenty six oh three. And if you want me around stories, 345 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: good to the r slash Okay, storytime subvered it. I'm Sophia, 346 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: I'm Angie, and we're here to give good advice. Goofy, 347 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: But we don't have all the answers. We only know 348 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: what we do, So let us know what you would 349 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: do in the comments, and OP says, to be clear, 350 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: my brother has two perfectly healthy legs still attached to 351 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: his body. 352 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 353 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: We should have started it, should have said titles should 354 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:38,239 Speaker 1: have been my brother has two legs and he refuses 355 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: to get rid of his fake prosthetic leg. Yeah. I 356 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: think it's creepy. Oh my god, that's where we should 357 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: have started. He just has this thing he takes with 358 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: him everywhere everywhere. Is this like his linus blanket that 359 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: he just drags around And it's kind of dirty now 360 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: because he's so attached to it. I don't know why, 361 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: and I don't want to know before you ask. Yeah, 362 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: it's probably a man thing. He wanted to stay with 363 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: me rather than our parents while he is home for 364 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: the holidays. I said he was welcome to stay, so 365 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: long as he doesn't bring that thing into my house. 366 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: He said it wasn't a big deal and that he 367 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: would leave it in his luggage. I agreed on the 368 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: condition that if I saw it outside of his luggage 369 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: in my home, then I had the right to destroy it. 370 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: He backtracked on staying with me and is at our parents' house, 371 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: where he is miserable. 372 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 373 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: Oh. He's like, fine, if you come, I'm going to 374 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: I'm going to burn it. 375 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 2: And he's like, I leave it as I find it. 376 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 2: A one time burning it and then he's like, well, 377 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 2: it's probably gonna be out of my luggage, so I 378 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 2: guess I'll just go. 379 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: I guess I'll just go to my parents' house. 380 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 2: I won't have a good time there. But he still 381 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 2: have my leg. 382 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: They still treat him like a little boy instead of 383 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: a guy who was almost thirty. He called me again 384 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: after supper and asked to please stay with me. I 385 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: said he could, so long as we together took his 386 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: thing and put it in a storage unit until he leaves. 387 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: I would have the key. He won't do it. This 388 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: is like Lord of the Rings Gollum with his ring level, 389 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: but worse. But worse. 390 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 2: It's a leg. 391 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: It's not even like like fashionable or just I don't know, 392 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,360 Speaker 1: easy to carry around. Yeah, doesn't make you invisible? 393 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 2: Is this like a full leg or like a hat leg? 394 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 2: Is it silly? Is it metal? Like? 395 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, what type of leg is this? 396 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 2: I need to know the details? 397 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 1: And also does it have any connection to sour On? 398 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: He says that I'm being a witch for not letting 399 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 1: him stay with me. I think he needs to get 400 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: a therapist or medication or both, or a girlfriend, boyfriend, dog, cat, hamsters, 401 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: something just not a gosh darn prosthetic leg, comments bodybuilder 402 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: Kitchen says, progression of my reactions title, Oh yeah, you 403 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: effing sucked? First paragraph, what do you mean? Second paragraph? 404 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 1: Question marks, third paragraph to end, question marks and exclamation points. 405 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's accurate. 406 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 1: It's kind of how how I was absolutely gonna be honest. 407 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: Cap Charne says, I know right. I was like, that's 408 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 1: really mean. Oh he has two whole legs. Oh oh 409 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: that's a choice. 410 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 2: Yeah. 411 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: Chris nineteen eighty six says, I know this is extremely 412 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: distressing for you, but I'm laughing so hard. At first, 413 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:16,959 Speaker 1: I was like, is she serious? She won't let her 414 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: brother bring his leg like his whole butt leg he 415 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 1: needs to walk because he literally lost a leg in 416 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: some horrible accident. But then you clarified both his healthy 417 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,479 Speaker 1: legs are still attached, and I lost it, not the ale, 418 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 1: but you and I are not the same. I would 419 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: need to know all of it. Where did you get it, 420 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: why do you have it, what do you do with it? 421 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 1: Did you steal it off a bomb or something? Then 422 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: I would stare at him uncomfortably until he broke and 423 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: told it all to me. I may later regret the decision, 424 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 1: but I don't often think that far into the future 425 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: when something catches my attention. 426 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 2: Honestly, I think I would do the same. Yeah, I'd 427 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 2: be like, why, like unless I'm unless I have an 428 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 2: idea of what you're using it for, But I don't 429 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 2: know how you could use this for that. Yeah, then, 430 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 2: like I'm gonna ask, who's why are you? 431 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 1: What's going on? Where'd you get the leg bud? Where'd 432 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: you get it? 433 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 2: Are you? Like? Are you like Forest Gump? And like 434 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 2: had a friend in a war that needed a prosthetic 435 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 2: leg and then they passed away, and now you have 436 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 2: some reason have a connection to this leg. 437 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 1: Plot of Forest Gump? 438 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 2: No, that doesn't happen, Okay, I was like, someone doesn't 439 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 2: have someone loses their legs in the war. Yeah, I 440 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 2: don't think it's a prosthetic one is, Lieutenant. 441 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 1: I don't know a polymus d L says an emotional 442 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 1: support prosthetic leg. That's a new one. Fantastic warning, says 443 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 1: her brother won it in a raffle and it came 444 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 1: all the way from France in a creat mucked, fragile. 445 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: The leg is actually a lamp, but it wears a 446 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: blackfishnet stocking, a black high heeled shoe, and a fringed lampshade. 447 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 1: Dennerists says, I'm a prostetas and I have to ask 448 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 1: what does this leg even look like? Blooney above me? 449 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 1: Does it just have the pylon bear or is there 450 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 1: a foam so that it sort of looks like a leg? 451 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: Is there a footshell on it or is the foot 452 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 1: component just sort of hanging out. The reason I'm asking 453 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: is because a prosthetic anything is mind bogglingly expensive, and 454 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 1: b you can't just have a prosthetic leg if you 455 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: have two perfectly healthy legs, you literally need a stump 456 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: to make one that's specifically yours. Did your brother receive 457 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 1: it from someone? Did he steal it? And just to 458 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:28,360 Speaker 1: be sure it's an actual prestisis and not a leg 459 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: brace of some kind. Opie says, it looks like a 460 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 1: carbon fiber cup with a steel knee and lower leg 461 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: and foot. Oh that's a nice fun. 462 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 2: So that's one of the ones that would need to 463 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 2: be see yeah to you. 464 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Genera says AKA pristisis are not cheap. That's 465 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: an entire car right there. I would actually grill your 466 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,679 Speaker 1: bro on where he got it, because it is one 467 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: hundred percent not his. If he stole it, he's looking 468 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: at felony grand theft charges if he bought it. Check 469 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: his and your parents' financials, because again, these things are 470 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: insanely expensive, and he doesn't sound like the brightest bulb. 471 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: Make sure he does not try to sell the procisses 472 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 1: or any of its components. I get that they can 473 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 1: be hard to get for the people who need them 474 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 1: the most, but if the components are damaged in any way, 475 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: they can lead to gnarly injuries when they inevitably fail. 476 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 1: If you truly want to get rid of it, there 477 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: are organizations out there that will take old procises and 478 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: refurbish them. Gin and Tonic with dogs is out of interest. 479 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: What happens to prosthetics when their owner passes away, do 480 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: they get refitted to someone else, not the ale for 481 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: not wanting it in your house, though Denura says unfortunately, 482 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 1: the vast majority get tossed. The socket is specific to 483 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 1: the owner, and you can't really adjust them to someone 484 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,239 Speaker 1: else's limb due to the material and the fact that 485 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 1: everyone's stump is different. Components such as the knee and 486 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 1: foot are technically reusable, but a lot of the time 487 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: they've been used enough you can't pass them on with 488 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: good conscious. The only times I've ever seen components reused 489 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: is if the patient tried them on during test fittings 490 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: and didn't like it basically an hour of use, or 491 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 1: if they passed away before they even got to put 492 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 1: them on. And there is an update, But do you 493 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 1: have any thoughts on what Opie should how ope he 494 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: should handle this situation? I mean, I, first of all, 495 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:16,239 Speaker 1: love how much the comments know about you need to 496 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: look into that because of this, this and this reason, 497 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: because I had so many questions and that you know, 498 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: I don't have any really answers, but. 499 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 2: A lot more like likely reasons of what could happen. 500 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 1: Yes, it seems like we've got some good theories going 501 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 1: on right here of where he got it? 502 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, but which is what I'm most curious about. Yeah, 503 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 2: where did he get Why is he so attached to it? 504 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 2: If he did steal it? Is he just scared of 505 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 2: being caught and that's why he has to keep it 506 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 2: on his person all the time. 507 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like, I can't, I can't be seen with it. 508 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: I must keep it inside. Yeah, keep it safe. I don't. 509 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 2: And then honestly like, yeah, if he is, if it 510 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 2: is a mental health thing, that's not something that should 511 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 2: be like ignored and dismissed. Yeah, I feel like it's 512 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 2: those comments were thinking that bad. Yeah, some comments were 513 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 2: saying something about like it might be a mental health thing. 514 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 2: I guess, but like if it is, that's something that 515 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 2: needs to be fixed, because what that's crazy? 516 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: Agreed update eleven days later. I didn't realize how much 517 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 1: attention this was going to get, enough that someone informed 518 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: the woman my brother stole it from. 519 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 2: Oh he did. 520 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 1: Seal it, and she was able to figure out what happened. 521 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,719 Speaker 1: She called the cops and he got arrested. 522 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 2: How did the comments figure this out? 523 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 1: That's crazy if they do that. I guess he was 524 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: sort of trying to do the thing where he could 525 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: be the hero the track downer leg. Please don't ask 526 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: me what the f was going through his head. The 527 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: leg was expensive enough that he is facing real criminal charges. 528 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 2: That's all. 529 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 1: Sorry, there's not more to tell. WHOA my god. The 530 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 1: comments were a spot why, but also like, how would 531 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 1: they have even done that? How would they have even 532 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 1: found oh P's brother? Yeah, I read it. 533 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 2: I'm really thinking that some sort of like a mastermind 534 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 2: hacking is going on. Yeah, I'm thinking that they probably 535 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 2: were like trying to log into her account. Maybe it 536 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 2: shows the phone number, maybe they looked up the phone, 537 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 2: maybe they found other accounts, maybe they found like other 538 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 2: posts by this. I'm sure there's a way to do it, 539 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 2: but just someone had to really care and really get 540 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 2: hyper focused on this. They need to figure that out. 541 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: Truly, comments gold Magic Harp says. I remember reading this 542 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: originally and wondering why the heck he needed to take 543 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: that leg around everywhere with him. I feel like he 544 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 1: would have returned it way sooner if he wanted to 545 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: play the hero. That's what I'm wondering, Because if you 546 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 1: wanted to give it back to her and be like 547 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: I've found your leg? Then why was he bringing it everywhere? 548 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 2: I was also wondering, like, what what gender leg it is? Like, 549 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 2: I know, it's just a leg, it's a woman's. Well yeah, 550 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 2: so now we know. But I was wondering that before 551 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 2: because it was like if it was a woman's and 552 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 2: if he's like attracted to women, and then like that's 553 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 2: suspicious because people keep you know, dirty old sock for 554 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 2: you know, gross reasons. So maybe that was a gross thing. Yeah, 555 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 2: I think it's I don't know. 556 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: I just don't understand, Like it seems like he stole it, 557 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: had this weird thought process of oh, I can give 558 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: it back to her and be the hero, then became 559 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,360 Speaker 1: emotionally attached to it and never got around to it, right. 560 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 2: I don't know. 561 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 1: Po Dentiel speech says that's wild. I wonder why he 562 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 1: wanted to bring it with him though. Is he obsessed 563 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 1: with the woman and has to carry the leg with 564 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 1: him at all time? I mean, stealing it is one thing, 565 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,439 Speaker 1: but why carried it around all the time. If he 566 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 1: tried to be a hero, he could. 567 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 2: Have hitten it. 568 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 1: Sounds more like a weird obsession. I don't think he 569 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 1: wanted to give it back to be the hero. I 570 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 1: have so many questions, but I'm glad the woman got 571 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,399 Speaker 1: her leg back. This is something I never thought I 572 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: would ever say. And there is an update two years later. 573 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I'm so excited that there's more of 574 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 2: the story. 575 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 1: Do you think that he's in jail. I mean he 576 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 1: kind of got a work around. 577 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 2: I think maybe he went to jail, but he's out. Yeah, 578 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 2: and it's been two years, you know, I would freaking hope. Yeah, 579 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 2: I hope that we hear at least more of the 580 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 2: story about his relation to that woman, how he knows her. 581 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, how did he get this leg? 582 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 2: How did this happen? 583 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: Did he like steal it in the in the the 584 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: middle of the night. 585 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. 586 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: Update two years later, so it's finally over. My brother 587 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 1: had to go to court after being charged with several crimes, 588 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: the most serious being felony theft. I will just put 589 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: the bullet points of the results. Found guilty because he 590 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: was too stupid to take a plea deal. I had 591 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: to serve some time incarcerated and now has parole. Managed 592 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: to avoid being charged with a spicy crime. My parents 593 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: paid to have the leg reconditioned or whatever it's called. 594 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: A professional prosthetic device's machine got it back in working order. 595 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: The woman got her leg back, as well as some 596 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: money in restitution. He is not welcome at my home 597 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:59,199 Speaker 1: with or without any prosthetics or the foreseeable future. The 598 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 1: woman has straining order against him indefinitely. 599 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would hope. 600 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 1: So I'm not letting this guy who stole my leg 601 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 1: right just kind of be anywhere near me. 602 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 2: It's my whole leg. I need that. 603 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: That's all there is to tell. Hope this answers everyone's questions. 604 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: Thanks for still caring about this weird experience in my life. 605 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 1: But there is a little bit left to this story. 606 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 1: Any final thoughts. 607 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 2: I just want to hear what happens next. Yeah, that 608 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 2: is just so bizarre. Yeah, all of this was really strange. Yeah, 609 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 2: and I. 610 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: Think Goop, he's kind of out of the weeds. 611 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,120 Speaker 2: But uh, yeah, I hope it sounds like it. 612 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, it would be hard to have any contact with 613 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: your brother after this, for sure, little miss savoir faire. 614 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: Congratulations on having the best judgment of anyone in your family. 615 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: I guess, considering he refused to plead, I assume he's 616 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 1: learned nothing from all of this, beautiful sweet says, hold on, 617 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 1: you can't leave us all hanging. How did your brother 618 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: get this woman's leg? How did he know her? Was 619 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:03,360 Speaker 1: he dating a friend, a metter on a bus? Stole it? 620 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 1: How long has he had it? You said he wanted 621 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 1: to be the hero by returning it, So why the 622 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: heck was he still holding on to it? And exactly 623 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: how long did he have it? And that is the 624 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: end of that story. Opie does not answer those questions. 625 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: Even us all hanging, Yeah, I mean don't know how 626 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: he stole it, or why he stole it, or y 627 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 1: this woman. 628 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 2: Is She probably doesn't know, yeah, or is too scared 629 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 2: to ask. But yeah, that's yikes. 630 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: But that's the end of that story, and we're gonna 631 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 1: get into the next one. 632 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 2: We will. Wow. My sister accused me of making fun 633 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 2: of her baby. 634 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: Well maybe your baby's dumb. Ever thought about that? 635 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 2: I had thirty two females. I am the eldest of 636 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 2: three sisters. We all have different fathers and our mixed 637 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 2: Afro Latina Me and my youngest sister, Jade twenty three, 638 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 2: female look alike, tan skin, curly hair, full lips, my 639 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 2: middle sister Ruby twenty five, female, looks white and honestly 640 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 2: identifies more with white culture. Ruby is currently in her 641 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 2: third trimester with her first child, WHOA. By the way, 642 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 2: this comes from Mojo Zozo ninety three. And if you 643 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 2: want to submit your own stories, go to the hours 644 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 2: slash Okay storytime and separate it. And I'm Angie, I'm Sophia, 645 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 2: and we're here to give you good advice. Goofully. But 646 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 2: we don't have all the answers. We just know what 647 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 2: we would do in this situation, So let us know 648 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 2: what you would do in the comments. So Op says. 649 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 2: When we were kids, I wasn't the nicest oldest sister. 650 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 2: I dealt with a lot of emotional issues and Ruby 651 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 2: was spoiled and stubborn, so we definitely clashed as adults. 652 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 2: Though things improved, Ruby has been supportive and loving, and 653 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 2: I've genuinely appreciated her efforts, though I still struggle with 654 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 2: my emotions. Last month, Ruby came into town she lives 655 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 2: three hours away, to spend the weekend with her book 656 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 2: club friends. I had no idea that she was visiting. 657 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 2: My mom and Jade knew for a few days, but 658 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 2: I gotten nothing not a text, not a heads up. 659 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 2: I only found out because I happened to be with 660 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 2: my mom when she casually mentioned Ruby was driving up 661 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 2: that day and suggested that we try to see each other. 662 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 2: I have a two year old daughter, so of course 663 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 2: I wanted Ruby to see her niece. I wasn't expecting 664 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 2: a whole family reunion or for Ruby to bend over backwards. 665 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 2: I'm a mom too, I get it. That day I 666 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 2: only spoke to Ruby briefly because she couldn't reach my mom, 667 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 2: who was in a store while I waited in the car. 668 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 2: She didn't say, hey, I'm in town, or let's link up. 669 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 2: It was literally just where's mom. The next morning, I 670 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 2: texted asking if we could see her while she was here. 671 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 2: She immediately replied with, sorry, I can't make it. Not 672 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 2: gonna have time to see y'all. Want to be on 673 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 2: the road by three pm. It was eleven thirty am. 674 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: Yikes, okay, stop by have a sick. I have to 675 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: be on the road at three pm. 676 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 2: I have three and a half hours. 677 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: I have to be ready at a moment's notice to 678 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 1: be on the road at three pm. 679 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 2: And I I will rape right here. 680 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 1: I'm not moving imagine from this spot, I'm gonna be 681 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: in my car ignition on until three Yeah, yep. 682 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 2: And I'm gonna have to replace my battery until then. 683 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 1: But that's fine because I'll be ready and then it 684 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: comes to PM. 685 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 2: She's like, yeah, yeah, exactly. 686 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 1: It's like, okay, all right, maybe I shouldn't have left 687 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 1: the ignition on. Yeah he is John og host were 688 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: gonna get back to the stories, but a quick free 689 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: minute break of ads from our sponsors. 690 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 2: I felt hurt, not because she didn't have time, but 691 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 2: because she didn't even tell me that she was here. 692 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 2: It felt like intentional avoidance. So I jokingly replied, wow, 693 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 2: so you drove all the way down here for the 694 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 2: white people who been on us, I feel segregated. People 695 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 2: who know me know that I joke like this. One 696 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 2: of my best friends is white, and she laughed when 697 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 2: I read it to her. Ruby did not. Ruby sent 698 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 2: a three paragraph text saying I was disrespecting her friends, 699 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 2: that I am not a priority to drive thirty minutes for, 700 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 2: and that I was mad I didn't get my way. 701 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 2: What's going on, girl? Okay, Wow, I get it. 702 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:55,959 Speaker 1: I'm your sister and I'm not a priority. 703 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 2: Apparently not there must be something else going on here 704 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 2: ought to be. She also said, if I really wanted 705 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 2: to see her, I should have come last month when 706 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 2: she was helping Jade move, even though she knew I 707 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 2: was having a painful flare up from a chronic skin 708 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 2: condition and physically couldn't sit long enough to ride there. 709 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 2: For context, I don't drive for medical reasons and liability concerns. 710 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 2: My husband drives. We could have easily arranged to meet 711 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 2: somewhere neutral. Ruby assumed I'd inconvenience her, but never actually asked. 712 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 2: I told her it feels like ever since she got 713 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 2: with her husband, Jim fifty five mail, she's been different 714 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 2: towards me. I pointed out how her friends are traded 715 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 2: more like sisters than I am, boat trips, brunches, outings 716 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 2: I was never invited to, and that she once said 717 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 2: that she feels more comfortable with white people than black people. 718 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: WHOA, that's that's tough. 719 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 2: WHOA, that's that's tough. That is tough. Yeah, it's just 720 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 2: your own sisters. Yeah. 721 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 1: I can't speak on her experience with race, but just 722 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: I think for ope to hear that she's not comfortable, 723 00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 1: it seemingly your own family because it is not. 724 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 2: A white space. 725 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: Is that would be pretty sad to hear? 726 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 2: Yes, especially I never realized that included me until now. 727 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 2: Ruby didn't like that either. She sent an even longer 728 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 2: message saying that she's not obligated to go out of 729 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 2: her way for me, and if I didn't like her 730 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 2: white friends, white husband, and white baby, I shouldn't come 731 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 2: to Thanksgiving. 732 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 1: So I didn't. 733 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 2: We haven't spoken since she said she'd reach out when 734 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 2: she's ready and hasn't. Wow. Fast forward to Thanksgiving. My 735 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 2: message Jim to clarify for rumors spread. I explained that 736 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 2: the issue between Ruby and me is not about race, 737 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 2: and that I was hurt because I wasn't told she 738 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 2: was in town and that assumptions were made about me 739 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 2: expecting something I never asked for. Jim sent a long 740 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 2: response saying my feelings were a me problem and that 741 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 2: him being white shouldn't matter, that he's tried to bring 742 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 2: the family together. Literally not at all what OPI said. Yeah. 743 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 2: Opie was literally saying, Yo, this isn't a problem, and 744 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,719 Speaker 2: he's like it shouldn't be a problem. He's like, what's that. 745 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, He's like hey, yeah, Like there was kind of 746 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: a miscommunication, still what it meant? And he's like, well, 747 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 1: that's a you problem, and she said, okay. 748 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, mebing why it has nothing done it? 749 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 1: She said, I never said that made a joke. 750 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 2: Said exactly, that made a joke. Geez. Then he dropped 751 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 2: the big news. The thing that hurt him the most 752 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 2: was me making fun of their unborn daughter's name. What where? 753 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:27,280 Speaker 1: What? 754 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 2: Well is your baby's name? 755 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:28,720 Speaker 1: Stupid? 756 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 2: Did we even know that that Ruby was pregnant? Yeah? 757 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah we did, we did, we did. 758 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, either way, huh when did you? When 759 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,720 Speaker 2: did she? When did she do that? Yeah? No, because 760 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:42,319 Speaker 2: we knew that. 761 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 1: I think I think she's given birth now. 762 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 2: That's what I thought. But it said since it said 763 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 2: unborn name, I was wondering maybe she hasn't, but maybe 764 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 2: that was just how he said it. But either way, 765 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,399 Speaker 2: she i for for what we know. She didn't say 766 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 2: anything about the daughter's name. Yeah, not at all. I 767 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 2: was stunned. I have never said anything to Ruby or 768 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 2: Jim about the baby's name, not to them in private. Yes, 769 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 2: I told my mom and Jay that I hated the name. Well, okay, 770 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 2: there it is. I think it got back to it 771 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 2: apparently it. 772 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's when you go, Hey Mom, did 773 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 1: you tell Ruby? Or Hey, j did you tell Ruby 774 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 1: that I didn't like the name. 775 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, but they agreed. It's literally the name of a 776 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 2: cheap three dollars gas station liquor. Let's just say it 777 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 2: ends with Rose. I said, I hoped the baby wouldn't 778 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 2: get bullied for it. That was months ago, and we 779 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 2: all agreed that I would not say anything to Ruby 780 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 2: because she's pregnant and sensitive. What are you looking up? 781 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 2: What it could be? Okay? I responded to Jim, Hey, 782 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 2: I've never mentioned to either of you that I didn't 783 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 2: like the baby's name, So whatever you're hearing is third party? 784 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: Yes, would they want to name it Tequila Rose? 785 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 2: Actually are actually naming the daughter Tequila? 786 00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: This is the only thing I can find about Rose. 787 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: There's Binac Rose, liquor Tequila rose. Like there's London Rose, 788 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:11,240 Speaker 1: water Liqueur Rose. What's there's uh panac p I n 789 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 1: a q pin yac? Oh, sorry, Pennac rose? That might 790 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 1: that might be? 791 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:18,319 Speaker 2: Are you naming it? Well? 792 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, because tequila Rose is insane. Yeah, so I guess 793 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: you're either naming her Pignac or tequila yeah, is this 794 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 1: my daughter, Tequila Rose? Oh my gosh, she really loves 795 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,280 Speaker 1: We named her after that one song. 796 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:38,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, Tequila right. 797 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just thought it was such a beautiful name. 798 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,359 Speaker 2: I really liked it, and also I love drinking. Oh 799 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 2: my god, Yes I don't like it, The op continues 800 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 2: to hit her response, Yes, I don't like it, but 801 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,840 Speaker 2: my opinion doesn't matter. I can understand if I directly 802 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:53,919 Speaker 2: said something to you guys, which would have been mean, 803 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 2: which is why I didn't. He never responded. I then 804 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 2: called Jade and my mother and asked what Jim was 805 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,760 Speaker 2: talking about. My mom admitted that she mentioned it to Ruby. 806 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, doy, we all called that, Mom, cue. 807 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 2: Your mouth, shy, come on. Jade hesitated, then admitted that 808 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 2: she was the one who told Ruby I hated the 809 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 2: name only to defend the fact that I wasn't judgmental. Well, huh, 810 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 2: I hated the name only to defend the fact that 811 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 2: I wasn't judgmental. 812 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 1: And the two I said, I'm reading that or either 813 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 1: Rose was like oh yeah, oh, PE's never or uh, 814 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,840 Speaker 1: what's her name? Ruby? He's like, oh, he's never judgmental? 815 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 1: Why are you judge judging the name? And then the 816 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,880 Speaker 1: other sister was like, well, no, oh P, he hated 817 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 1: the name too. She just didn't want to tell you. 818 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's one read. 819 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,840 Speaker 1: The other read is, oh, P didn't tell you to 820 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:46,439 Speaker 1: your face. She's not judgmental, like she could have been mean, like. 821 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 2: She if she's not judgmental because she was speaking. 822 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,840 Speaker 1: Behind your back, Which so the first one makes a 823 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 1: little bit more sense to me. Right if maybe the 824 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 1: sister was like, yeah, like I tried to talk to 825 00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 1: her about the name and say like, hey, yeah, Tequila Roe, 826 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 1: this is not the best name for baby. 827 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 2: But honestly, like with the like, I could see that 828 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 2: second explanation being it if OP thought like if OP 829 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 2: was saying like, well, it wasn't mean because I didn't 830 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 2: say it to your face, then it's like, okay, well 831 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:20,880 Speaker 2: I guess if they yeah like that. I thought it 832 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:21,400 Speaker 2: was weird. 833 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,839 Speaker 1: That was weird. But she messaged she was like, no, no, no, 834 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 1: I don't understand why you're mad. I never said it 835 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 1: to your face. 836 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, like, it wasn't mean because I wasn't being mean 837 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:30,319 Speaker 2: directly to you. 838 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 1: I said it behind your pack cut. That was that 839 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 1: was weird. It was very weird. Yeah, I think that 840 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 1: was a weird move on your part. 841 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 2: Op. I think your your. 842 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:43,400 Speaker 1: Parent, your mom, and your sister are accidentally conspiring against you. 843 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 1: I guess so think Ruma's rumas I think when Ruby's 844 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 1: being all drama. Yeah, yeah, good luck. Hey it's Sam. 845 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,359 Speaker 1: We're going to get back to these stories. But here's 846 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 1: three minutes of bads from our sponsors. 847 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 2: There is a little bit more. Ruby assumed. I said 848 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,840 Speaker 2: it directly told Jim, and now I am being accused 849 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 2: of being anti white and disrespecting an unborn child, causing drama, 850 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,360 Speaker 2: and being ungrateful for their support all over a joke 851 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:16,359 Speaker 2: and feelings. I communicated honestly. Meanwhile, all I said was 852 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 2: it hurt my feelings not to know you were here. 853 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 2: Jade apologized privately, but I'm the one publicly punished. Ruby 854 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 2: and Jim are still not speaking to me. I'm exhausted, 855 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,400 Speaker 2: I'm the oldest, and somehow I'm always painted as the 856 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 2: problem because I don't roll over when I'm hurt. My 857 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 2: husband says to cut contact until Ruby acknowledges the truth. 858 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 2: Part of me agrees. I also hate that my family 859 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 2: dynamic now casts me as the evil villain in his story. 860 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 2: I didn't create I'm super annoyed with my mom and Jade. 861 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,759 Speaker 2: I don't think i'm the a whole. I didn't do 862 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 2: anything intentionally cruel. I know I'm not perfect at expressing myself, 863 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,880 Speaker 2: but I refuse to be the bigger person just because 864 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 2: she's pregnant, especially when they joked about my daughter's name 865 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 2: my entire pregnancy, and I never held it against them. 866 00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 2: So am I the able. 867 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 1: U that lasts? That's important? Yeah, is what I would 868 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,919 Speaker 1: like to know more about. Yeah, they joked about your 869 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 1: daughter's name. Yeah, and then we said something by and 870 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 1: their bad. 871 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah they said about your kid. 872 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 1: Me too, me too? Because uh, I think that's pretty relevant. 873 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:21,480 Speaker 2: I would agree. 874 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 1: It feels like they it feels like your sister's husband 875 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,279 Speaker 1: is being very sensitive about his race, and then your 876 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 1: sister doesn't feel comfortable or I don't know, maybe included 877 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:40,720 Speaker 1: in uh, like in what are they afro Cordeman after Latina, 878 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 1: like in the after Latina side of her, so she 879 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 1: just sticks to the white side and now has that 880 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 1: whole group. Uh. And maybe I guess it's just sensitive 881 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 1: about any race things. 882 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 2: I do think you could probably apologize for the name thing, though, 883 00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,400 Speaker 2: I feel like you just saying like, hey, well I 884 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 2: didn't say that to you, so that's unfair. Yeah, I 885 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:04,719 Speaker 2: feel like that's not a good way to go. No, 886 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 2: I think we just. 887 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 1: Apologize it and be distance, let them pool down about that. 888 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, even though I do think it's relevant, 889 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 2: maybe not maybe apologize and then separately you could mention 890 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,279 Speaker 2: that they made fun of your daughter's. 891 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,399 Speaker 1: Name and you're like, bone, remember yeah my daughter. 892 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. You definitely don't want to be like, you know, I, 893 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,800 Speaker 2: well it's okay because you did that to me. 894 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, maybe o Pylon. 895 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, apologize and then maybe separately be like, well, I 896 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 2: mean while we're on the door, we're on the subject. Yeah. 897 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 1: But that's the end of that story and the end 898 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,920 Speaker 1: of the episode. So if you love us, make sure 899 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 1: to subscribe. 900 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,080 Speaker 2: We love you and see you tomorrow.