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Speaker 1: Welcome bird Gang. On today's show, we promise not to panic,

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Speaker 1: but it is not good when you're starting. Left tackle

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Speaker 1: is not spotted at practice of greater concern though, Dak

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Speaker 1: Prescott and this Cowboys offense number one in scoring, number

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Speaker 1: one in total yards. What does Vans Joseph have in

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Speaker 1: store for Dallas on Sunday? Sounds like there will be

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Speaker 1: opportunities for someone to step up, maybe several players first,

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Speaker 1: though maybe we haven't completely turned the page on the past,

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Speaker 1: long ago and recent past. It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode

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Speaker 1: five eighteen, and it starts now. Welcome to Cardinals Cover

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Speaker 1: two with Craig Grigolu and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals Cover two

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Speaker 1: is presented by Hyunday, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals,

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Speaker 1: and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit Easy Cardinals dot com

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Speaker 1: slash podcasts Going Hopkins, One Hand to Catch and a

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Speaker 1: Touchdown DeAndre Hopkins. Here's Craig Griolu and Mike Jareckie. So

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Speaker 1: apparently we both subjected ourselves to reliving some Cardinals misery

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Speaker 1: Wednesday night. You go first, him, Jay, tell everyone what

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Speaker 1: you watched last night? Well, because of the recent passing

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Speaker 1: of John Madden, and for those Cardinal fans aren't aware,

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Speaker 1: the last game he called was the Cardinals Steelers Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: And so you know, I've watched it a hundred times.

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Speaker 1: I feel like, I mean, I can I don't know

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Speaker 1: guys like and Aaron Francisco falls down and Ralph Brown

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Speaker 1: and you know, you go back and just how conservative

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Speaker 1: it out of honor to the late John Madden. Did

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Speaker 1: the result change at all? On one foot in bounds

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Speaker 1: as opposed to two feets. Listen, they reviewed that twice.

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Speaker 1: Still photos don't do any justice. He got both beat down.

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Speaker 1: And I remember going to the locker room and I

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Speaker 1: interesting conversation. And he said that wasn't untold the team.

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Speaker 1: Don't blame the officials. It will cheapen the accomplishment. What

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Speaker 1: we got here from a nine and seventeam you know,

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Speaker 1: And it was just interesting, just you know, JJ Ellington

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Speaker 1: obviously the James Harrison play. Thank you to Antrell Roll

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Speaker 1: Been mentioned it on social media on Tuesday night that

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Speaker 1: that final game, Super Bowl forty three was the last

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Speaker 1: of John Madden's broadcasting career. And we know he did

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Speaker 1: ton you know, quickly then m story time. So when

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Speaker 1: So eventually the producer says the man, I need you

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Speaker 1: for several seasons two thousand and seven to twenty twelve,

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Speaker 1: list by Micah Parsons, the Cowboys rookie standout rookie linebacker

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Speaker 1: compared Kyler Murray to a cheetah. Now Parsons likens himself

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray is such a unique player that Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 1: indicated the Cowboys have used four different players to simulate

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Speaker 1: those players are quarterbacks, CJ. Goodwin a cornerback, and Cedric

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Speaker 1: these different adjectives because it does kind of I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray stack up with this player? But how about

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Speaker 1: now that's on film. That is on film, and we

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Speaker 1: your opportunity. Well, again, you're behind Canard Jones Guardeck. But

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Speaker 1: he also is dressing on game day, which is encouraging.

427
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Speaker 1: And Vance barred up a good point when they played

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys in the first game, he got some playing

429
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Speaker 1: time there. I know it's totally different, but the fact

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Speaker 1: is that he's been in the system and I like

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Speaker 1: the way he practices. He's got a little tenacity to him.

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Speaker 1: I like the way he moves around. Again, you're gonna

433
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Speaker 1: question the depth and not to say he's going to

434
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Speaker 1: go in there and you know, Philip the stat sheet,

435
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Speaker 1: but just having him on the field, I don't think

436
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Speaker 1: he's an empty chair where he's going to do his

437
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Speaker 1: job and hopefully other guys can make plays. There is

438
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Speaker 1: a third name, and one that I had not considered

439
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Speaker 1: until the open portion of practice and seeing number twenty

440
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Speaker 1: five work with the outside linebackers during position drills. Number

441
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Speaker 1: twenty five is Zaven Collins, an inside linebacker, but he

442
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 1: has not played much, actually hasn't even played any defense

443
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Speaker 1: here in the last several games. Trying to look it up.

444
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Speaker 1: He has not played a single snap a defense in

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Speaker 1: the last three games or four of the last five games,

446
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Speaker 1: and Vans Joseph was asked about it, admitted Savan Collins

447
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 1: could have a role, added that Collins has worked as

448
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Speaker 1: an outside linebacker all season long. We might not be

449
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 1: seeing it, but they have utilized him in that role

450
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Speaker 1: and would make sense, especially if you don't have a

451
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Speaker 1: Devon Knard or Marcus Golden to plug in a Zavan

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Speaker 1: Collins who hasn't done much defensively but certainly has the

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Speaker 1: skill sets and the size to rush the passer. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and you know, got to find ways at this point.

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00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 1: We know that obviously the way that Jordan Hicks has

456
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Speaker 1: played in Isaiah Simmons, and you know, hopefully they can't

457
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Speaker 1: get ten or valet hole backers. He turn. It may

458
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 1: not happen this week, but next week and then Joe

459
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 1: Walker's out there, But I mean he's got a skill set. Um,

460
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Speaker 1: we know that. You know, he's a guy that has

461
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Speaker 1: the body to where he can create some some some havoc.

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Speaker 1: The thing is, I don't know if he's the most

463
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Speaker 1: physical player on the on the team, but again, he

464
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Speaker 1: gets by with his size and his speed and his um.

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Speaker 1: He can tackle. It's just you gotta have you gotta

466
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Speaker 1: have something in the pants. And he when he hits guys,

467
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Speaker 1: it's not like he's hitting him to where he's trying

468
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Speaker 1: to obviously go through him. He's trying to make the tackles.

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Speaker 1: So I give him credit there, but I want to

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Speaker 1: see him play a little bit more physical, um if

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be playing in the trenches, because it's different

472
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Speaker 1: when you're off the ball versus when you're on the ball.

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Speaker 1: And now you've got to try to beat a left

474
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Speaker 1: tackle and Dennis Gardeck, he's undersized and undermanned, and you know,

475
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Speaker 1: he's kind of like your root for the underdog. He'll

476
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Speaker 1: get there, just based on I'm not giving up. And

477
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 1: then we saw that in the Giants game, he got

478
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Speaker 1: he got pancaked. In the next play he was getting

479
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Speaker 1: to the quarterback and that's when Reddick had all those sacks,

480
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Speaker 1: so um, but I'm encouraged to get him on the field.

481
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Speaker 1: It's just, you know, I don't know what to expect

482
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Speaker 1: in the long term. Speed off the edge. Yes, he

483
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 1: might not have the physical traits to beat a one

484
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Speaker 1: on one match up against either tackle, but maybe if

485
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Speaker 1: he's quick off the line of scrimmage, you can get

486
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Speaker 1: into the backfield and at least make things difficult for

487
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Speaker 1: the quarterback exactly and in their tackles Tyrann Smith. Um,

488
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,439
Speaker 1: you know he's he's been on the injury report, but

489
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 1: you know, obviously he's going to play. But also we

490
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 1: will free some other guys up. I mean again, I

491
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,679
Speaker 1: just hope he gets an opportunity. And um, you know,

492
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 1: the fact is that they're willing to kind of take

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Speaker 1: him out of his comfort zone because of a necessity here. Um,

494
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 1: if Golden and uh Carnard were playing, we're not even

495
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Speaker 1: having this conversation. But the good news he is dressing

496
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,400
Speaker 1: on game dus play playing on teams. So in other words,

497
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,640
Speaker 1: he's just the match. It's a matter of time where

498
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 1: he can fit him. But I like the fact that

499
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 1: they're willing to use him based on his skill set.

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00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: There's an opportunity, and we talk about it all the time.

501
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 1: Players want an opportunity. However, they get that opportunity. If

502
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 1: Zavan Collins, if his number is called, go out there

503
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 1: and do your best, show something to these coaches to

504
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 1: where they want you on the football field, and then

505
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 1: that morphs into more reps, not just as an outside linebacker,

506
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Speaker 1: but maybe as an inside linebacker. And also give this kid.

507
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Speaker 1: I can say that I'm older than he is, but

508
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Speaker 1: give this kid some confidence going into the offseason and

509
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: make him feel like he's a part of the team.

510
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 1: The keys were handed to him on draft night, not

511
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Speaker 1: his fault, and he hasn't been able to deliver on

512
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Speaker 1: those expectations. Again not his fault, but you at least

513
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 1: give him something, something positive, something that he can hang

514
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Speaker 1: on to over these last two games, maybe into the postseason,

515
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Speaker 1: and then work on in the offseason. Might not be

516
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Speaker 1: a lot, might only be a couple of snaps, maybe

517
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Speaker 1: on third and long, but at least you see him

518
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Speaker 1: out on the football field and allow him to contribute

519
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: outside of just being on special teams. Yeah, when you

520
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Speaker 1: go from zero to ten or zero or ten to

521
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 1: fifteen snaps, I mean that's that's again because of the situation.

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Speaker 1: That's and I dude like the fact that they're just

523
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: not saying he's an inside linebacker. We can't move him around.

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Speaker 1: You know. He when he was in college, he played

525
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Speaker 1: a lot of different positions. He kind of reminded me

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Speaker 1: of Brian Urlacker. He would play safety, he would play

527
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Speaker 1: inside linebacker, he rushed the passer in college. Obviously, playing

528
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: at tuls is a little bit different. Even though um

529
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Speaker 1: Erlacker played in New Mexico and he became a linebacker,

530
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Speaker 1: you know, but he played safety and he kind of

531
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Speaker 1: played and a lot of people thought maybe Erlacker could

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Speaker 1: play tight end and you know in college. So I

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Speaker 1: just like they're they're thinking, okay, let's think out the

534
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 1: box here a little bit. U A. They need some

535
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Speaker 1: and B. He does have a skill set to somehow

536
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Speaker 1: get to the corporates. He has his speed and his

537
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: first step will allow him to try to make some plays.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, I just like the fact that that

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Speaker 1: you know, based on this scenario, he's gonna get maybe

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00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,719
Speaker 1: a small opportunity. I don't see him playing a ton

541
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Speaker 1: of snaps. They do have to hear Whitehead on the

542
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: practice squad as a potential option as and they've protected

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00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: him a few different times this year. Again, you like

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Speaker 1: the options. Now we'll just to see what the decisions

545
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: on Saturday are ahead of Sunday's game week seventeen Cardinals

546
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: at the Cowboys too. Twenty five is the kickoff, big matchup.

547
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: Cardinals come in ten and five, Cowboys eleven and four. Cardinals.

548
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: We know are sputtering, and we detailed it on offense,

549
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: but they've also been sputtering on defense. And let me

550
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 1: know what bothers you most out of these numbers, MJ.

551
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: The first seven games Cardinals defensively could do no wrong.

552
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Speaker 1: Number one in points allowed, Number one third down defense

553
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: at almost twenty nine percent. Now in the eight games since,

554
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: the points allowed have gone from sixteen to twenty four

555
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: and the third down conversion rate has gone from twenty

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Speaker 1: nine to forty three. In addition, over the last three games,

557
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Speaker 1: one takeaway, and for me, that's kind of what stands out,

558
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Speaker 1: is that one takeaway because the defense is not doing

559
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 1: its part to help out a struggling offense. Now it's

560
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 1: more on the offense, but one takeaway over three games

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Speaker 1: against a Jared Goff Carson Wentz and Matthew Stafford. I

562
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Speaker 1: would have expected more than just one. Yeah, and when

563
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 1: this team was you know, when they were seven and

564
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: ozer on the road, he had plus seventeen internover ratio.

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Speaker 1: And then that's playing complimentary football. Yeah, it's just you know,

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, it's a kind of a catch

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Speaker 1: twenty two. Just the fact that you know, not only

568
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Speaker 1: given up like two hundred thirty yards, two hundred and

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Speaker 1: twenty five yards. The problem is these quarterbacks have thrown over.

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Speaker 1: The quarterbacks have completed over seventy to seventy five percent

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Speaker 1: of their passes, and some can be twenty one for

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Speaker 1: twenty eight, some could be like twenty eight for thirty.

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Speaker 1: And you know they're trying to get pressure up front,

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Speaker 1: but the secondary just hasn't played as well as they

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Speaker 1: have in the past. And you know this this is

576
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Speaker 1: gonna be a great test, and I would treat it

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Speaker 1: like a playoff game. I know, the Cardinals still having

578
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: another game at the end of the year, but you're

579
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Speaker 1: gonna face teams like this in the postseason. It'd be

580
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: a really good test to go in there and kind

581
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Speaker 1: of try to shut them down. You're not going to

582
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: completely and I don't think they should get into a shootout.

583
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: It's about time of possession, keeping Dak Presscott off on

584
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Speaker 1: the sidelines like the team has done with Kyler Murray.

585
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: Week fourteen, the Rams the number five scoring team. Last

586
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Speaker 1: week the Colts number three, this week number one. The

587
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Speaker 1: only team in the NFL that is averaging thirty points

588
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Speaker 1: a game. The Dallas Cowboys come in at thirty and

589
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Speaker 1: a half. They are number one in total offense. They

590
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Speaker 1: are sixth best as far as rushing the football, third

591
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: best passing the football, and number one in explosive plays

592
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: and explosive plays to find as ten or more yards

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Speaker 1: on paper. And then we saw it Sunday night against

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Speaker 1: Washington again. It's Washington that is a magnificent offense and

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Speaker 1: it's run by Dak Prescott, who is healthy. A year

596
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: ago Cardinals didn't see him. He was out for the

597
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: season with an ankle injury. Now he is back and

598
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: losing that one game earlier in the year with a

599
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: calf injury. He looks like he's completely one and has

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Speaker 1: this offense rolling. Yeah. I want to see hurt the

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00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: game before the Cardinals played him, and that's why we

602
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: got a chance to see Andy Dalton. Now, when I

603
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: say this, we know teams don't mate the schedule and

604
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: at the end of the year, they don't ask you

605
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: who you've beaten. They ask you how many wins you have.

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Speaker 1: But let's just peel the curtains back a little bit here.

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00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 1: Let's look at their last four wins. Tysom Hill, Taylor Heinekey,

608
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones or Mike Glennon Heineke. Again not saying that's

609
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Speaker 1: murderers row, but you got to give them credit because

610
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 1: you know, when we talked about it on the postgame show,

611
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: the last segment, we always look ahead. I think his

612
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: defense is carrying this football team. But what happened when

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Speaker 1: you put up forty five or fifty two? Now all

614
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: of a sudden people are looking at this offense, and

615
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: to me, they got a complete team offensive line, quarterback,

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Speaker 1: tight end, three wide receivers. They got a one two

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00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: punch and Pollard and Zeke Elliott. But they haven't played now.

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Speaker 1: They lost to Derek Carr okay, and they lost to

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes and Denver beat him. It was thirty to sixteen,

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Speaker 1: So they really haven't played a lot of tough quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: And they'll play the Cardinals and then they'll play Jalen

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Speaker 1: Hurts next week. So just a little bit to think

623
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Speaker 1: about when it comes to the opposing quarterbacks they played.

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00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 1: They have not faced a guy like Kyla Murray. True,

625
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 1: and they have not faced a team like the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: Their last win over a current team with a winning record,

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Speaker 1: meaning right now as we speak, with a winning record

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00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 1: the New England Patriots back in Week six. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: they started off the season lost thirty one twenty nine

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00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,439
Speaker 1: to the Buck So that's a quality loss. Of course,

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Speaker 1: that was the opener for the season. Then they won

632
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: a nice winning streak beating the Chargers, Eagles, Panthers, Giants, Patriots, Vikings,

633
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Speaker 1: loss of the Broncos, beat the Falcons, and again they

634
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: beat them forty three to three. But again they haven't

635
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: faced a quarterback like Kyler Murray and that could be

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Speaker 1: the difference factor. Now, if the Cardinals turn a ball

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Speaker 1: over two or three times, that's probably not going to

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Speaker 1: help you win. This game could come down to a

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Speaker 1: Matt Prador field goal at the end. You know, they

640
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Speaker 1: got Andy leeback, he got brewback and Matt Prator, I'm

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00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,720
Speaker 1: sure he can't wait to get back on that field.

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Covered two presented by Hunday Partner of the Arizona Cardinals.

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00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys last week four hundred ninety seven total yards

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Speaker 1: of offense, fourth time this season they've scored more than

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00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,919
Speaker 1: forty points in a game in Dak Prescott in just

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Speaker 1: a little less than three quarters, three hundred and thirty

647
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: yards passing and four touchdowns MJ he is top ten

648
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: and attempts, completions, completion percentage, yards and touchdowns. But it's

649
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: the twenty one total touchdowns, twenty passing touchdowns in seven

650
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Speaker 1: home games this season, just two interceptions. We talk about

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Speaker 1: the comfort level. Kyle the Murray has at AT and

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Speaker 1: T Stadium, while Dak Prescott has certainly made AT and

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Speaker 1: T Stadium his home here in twenty twenty one. All right,

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Speaker 1: you ready for this. His last eleven full games at home,

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00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 1: completing close to seventy percent of his passes, He's averaging

656
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: three hundred and twenty seven yards per game, eight point

657
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: six yards per temp, thirty one passes are, thirty five touchdowns,

658
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 1: thirty one passing four russia only four interceptions in his

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00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 1: last eleven home games. Quarterback rating one six team so

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00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 1: I mean, they obviously when they get a lead, it's

661
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 1: it's tough to stop them. But not we're not just

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00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: looking at I'm talking about the last eleven home games.

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Speaker 1: Thirty five touchdowns, four interceptions, thirty one rush are passing

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Speaker 1: and four rushing, and he's completing close to sixty eight

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Speaker 1: point seven and again close to thirty six hundred yards.

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Speaker 1: So he now last week, after after less than twenty

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00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: minutes of play, Dallas was up twenty seven. Dallas had

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00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 1: twenty seven points, thirteen first downs, two hundred and thirty

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Speaker 1: two yards, they were eighty three percent on third down

670
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Speaker 1: conversion rate, in two takeaways, and that was just after

671
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,839
Speaker 1: the first less than twenty minutes of play. That's how,

672
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: That's how how that game got out of whacked. As

673
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: much as Dak Prescott has excelled this season and he has,

674
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Speaker 1: I do think, and he might even admit to this

675
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: as well, every quarterback should starts up front with those

676
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: offensive linemen. You brought up iron Smith. He's missed the

677
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 1: past two games. He has returned to practice and there's

678
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Speaker 1: a possibility he is available as the left tackle of

679
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: this week. Zack Martin, a four time first team All

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00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: pros seven time Pro bowler at right guard. They are

681
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 1: giving Dak time to throw the football and they are

682
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: picking up the Blitz Pro Football Focus twenty nine touchdown

683
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 1: passes but a league best nineteen against the Blitz. We

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Speaker 1: know Vans Joseph likes to bring pressure. Can he afford

685
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Speaker 1: to do that and put those corners and those players

686
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: in the secondary not on on island, but one on

687
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Speaker 1: one against the likes of a Cede lamb Amari Cooper.

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00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: And don't forget about the tight end Dalton Schultz. So

689
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Speaker 1: not only is Dak playing well, but he's got a

690
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Speaker 1: solid offensive line and weapons across the board at running back,

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Speaker 1: wide receiver and tight end. Yeah, I mean, we know

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals an issue. I'd like to play a lot

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Speaker 1: of man to man press across the board. They may

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Speaker 1: have to play zone here and just hope that, you know,

695
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: the front seven can get some pressure take him off

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00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 1: his spot. But he will, he will extend the pocket,

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00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: he will roll out to the right and left. He's

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Speaker 1: not just gonna sit in there and try to, you know,

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Speaker 1: go through his progressions. He'll try to buy some time,

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00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: cut the field in half. And so they may have

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00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: to play more zone and then Obviously it's not ideal

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Speaker 1: when you don't have Robert Alford, but they're gonna have

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Speaker 1: to go in there with Kevin Peterson, by Ron Murphy

704
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Speaker 1: and Antonio Hamilton, and I do anticipate we'll see somebody

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Speaker 1: brought up. It could be Brooks just based on his

706
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:30,879
Speaker 1: experience with the defense. Ceedee Lamb over a thousand yards

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00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,760
Speaker 1: his first one thousand receiving yards season. Amari Cooper looking

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Speaker 1: for a fourth straight one thousand yards season. He's at

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Speaker 1: seven sixty eights and in the wild card. And all

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Speaker 1: of this is Schultz who's got a career high sixty

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Speaker 1: nine catches and six touchdowns. The tight end you have

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Speaker 1: to be aware of him is that Isaiah Simmons is

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Speaker 1: at Jordan Hicks. Joe Walker got burned last week on

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Speaker 1: a tight end coming across the middle for a long gain.

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Speaker 1: So that's you can't you can't forget about the tight end.

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Speaker 1: And then because Joseph earlier brought up Tony Pollard or

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Speaker 1: backup running back who is sneaky good with the ball

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Speaker 1: in his hands, especially catching it. Yeah, and Zeke really

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Speaker 1: was pedestrian last week. Just numbers, but he's got ten

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Speaker 1: rushing touchdowns so it looks like kind of Pollard's kind

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Speaker 1: of like Chase Evans twenty to twenty and he's ripped

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Speaker 1: off some thirty and forty yard runs this year. He

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Speaker 1: also plays on teams. I don't want to see Joe

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Speaker 1: Walker on the tight end. I don't want to see

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Speaker 1: Jordan Hicks. But maybe you can put Buddha or Thompson,

726
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Speaker 1: but ideally Isaiah Simmons would be the matchup. Elliot's been

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Speaker 1: bothered by a knee injury all season long. He started.

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Speaker 1: He hasn't missed a single game this season. But you

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Speaker 1: look at his per carry average, it's not great four

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Speaker 1: point three, but he's got almost nine hundred yards that's

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Speaker 1: seventh best in the league. And then more importantly, he

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Speaker 1: remember last season what happened with Zeke. He was coughing

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Speaker 1: up the football. I think he had two fumbles in

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Speaker 1: that meeting against the Cardinals last season. He only has

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Speaker 1: one lost fumble this season. Protect the football, and I

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Speaker 1: think there being judicious with him as far as when

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Speaker 1: they use him how many times to where it's advantageous

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Speaker 1: to them as far as short yardage or needing someone

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Speaker 1: big on third down. But they do have that one

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Speaker 1: two punch. We talk about what the Arizona Cardinals Chase

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Speaker 1: Edmonds and James Connor. I thought Zeke was very heavy

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Speaker 1: last year and you could see that, you know, based

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Speaker 1: on his contract, and you know, they obviously rewarded him

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Speaker 1: with a nice long contract and he was, you know,

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Speaker 1: the fourth pick in the draft, but he was heavy,

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Speaker 1: and you could see in the offseason he's definitely improved.

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Speaker 1: He's lost he looks like he's in much better shape.

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Speaker 1: Where now set of a three yard run, he can

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Speaker 1: get a six or seven yard run, and he's very

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Speaker 1: effective in the red zone, and he can catch the

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Speaker 1: ball in the backfield too, So you know that that's

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Speaker 1: kind of the recipe. You know, in fifteen games this

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00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: yearies only he rushed the ball two hundred and ten

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Speaker 1: times eight eight hundred ninety nine yards, but he does

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Speaker 1: have ten rushing touchdowns. Overall, he has ten touchdowns. I

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Speaker 1: may say he's got a passing or a receiving touchdown,

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00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 1: but four point three career wise. Obviously, he's been a

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00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 1: god that's been carrying the load for years and he's

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00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: almost kind of been forgotten about in the last season

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Speaker 1: and a half because of a Derrick Henry or a

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor, and all of a sudden, like, don't forget

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Speaker 1: about Ezekiel Elliott, who once upon a time was the

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Speaker 1: running back in the National Football League, a long lineage

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Speaker 1: of quality, great Hall of Fame running backs with the

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. Zeke's not quite there yet as far as

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame status, but he is very, very good.

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Speaker 1: We just haven't been able to see it. Yeah, So

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Speaker 1: last week he was nine for thirty seven, he had

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Speaker 1: a touchdown, and he had a receiving touchdown. The week

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Speaker 1: before sixteen for fifty two, twelve for forty five, thirteen

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Speaker 1: for forty five, and then you could see he was

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Speaker 1: dealing with that ankle injury. Back to back weeks he

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Speaker 1: had nine carries. Now, earlier in the year, in Week

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Speaker 1: four against Carolina, he had he had twenty carries for

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Speaker 1: one hundred and forty three yards. He backed it up

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Speaker 1: the next week twenty one carries one hundred and ten yards.

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Speaker 1: But he hasn't really reached that plateau. And I think

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Speaker 1: it's because a they're passing the ball. You talk, well Scholtz,

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Speaker 1: he's got six touchdowns and then when you bring in

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Speaker 1: Tony Pollard, he's kind of their twenty to twenty guy.

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Speaker 1: But clearly when Zack's in the red zone or on

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00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: the goal line, they're gonna feed him or Zeke, they're

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Speaker 1: gonna feed him the ball. We always hear Vanch Joseph say,

784
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Speaker 1: stop the run, make a team one dimensional. I don't

785
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: know that was the game plan last week. You wanted

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Speaker 1: Carson Wentz to beat you, and he did. It wasn't

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor this week. I don't know if it's so

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Speaker 1: much stop the run as it is just kind of

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Speaker 1: slow down this Cowboys explosive offense because you stop the

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Speaker 1: run while Dak still has Lamb Cooper's Shoultz gallop. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there are still other bodies out there. It's not like

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Speaker 1: this team talking about the Cowboys runs, how their running

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00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: game goes. I mean, they can go out there and

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00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: just throw it forty times if they want to, especially

795
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Speaker 1: with that offensive line and whene the Cardinals secondary is

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Speaker 1: banged up. They know that, and all of a sudden,

797
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Speaker 1: maybe a Kevin Peterson gets targeted or someone else from

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Speaker 1: that p the squad that just arrived. It's amazing, whether

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Speaker 1: it's a coach in the booth on the sideline or

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00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: a player on the field when someone new comes in,

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00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:09,800
Speaker 1: whether it's during the game because of an injury, or

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00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: someone shows up late during the week, they always know

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Speaker 1: where you are. You're always gonna get picked on first play,

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Speaker 1: and it's amazing to me. We've seen a few different

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00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 1: times when either walkers out there, they target him. Last year,

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Speaker 1: we watch it in Week one when Kyle Shanahan went

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Speaker 1: after Isaiah Simmons. It's there must be a position coach

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00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: that goes that guy's not a starter, he's a backup.

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00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: We're gonna they target him. And it works like I

810
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Speaker 1: know that there's position coaches that just keep an eye

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Speaker 1: in that if you lose a starter and you've got

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Speaker 1: a guy that hasn't played a lot, they're gonna target him.

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Speaker 1: When you look at Pollard, one hundred and twenty seven

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Speaker 1: rushes seven hundred and ten yards average, it's five point

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Speaker 1: six yards a pop. He's only has two touchdowns, but again,

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00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 1: he's a guy that carries the ball between seven and

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Speaker 1: twelve times, and it doesn't seem like when they get

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00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: a lead they rely on him. It's more about what

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Speaker 1: he can do from the twin and those numbers remind

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Speaker 1: me of Chase Edmonds with average percarry. Well, Edmonds is

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Speaker 1: at five point five that's seventh best in the league,

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Speaker 1: and Pollard's at five six that's fourth best. And Polard

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Speaker 1: only has two rushing touchdowns where Chase only has the one.

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Speaker 1: And hopefully Chase Edmonds with a game under his belt

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00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 1: now and maybe with James Connor back in the fold,

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00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 1: we can see more of that Chase Edmunds James Connor dynamic.

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Speaker 1: But defensively, this is a huge challenge and I think

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Speaker 1: coach Joseph mentioned that word challenge at least a half

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Speaker 1: a dozen times during what was an eleven minute interview

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Speaker 1: session with the media on Thursday. So no bigger challenge

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Speaker 1: than the next one. And the next one is this

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Speaker 1: week against the Dallas Cowboys. And you certainly know what

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00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: the national perspective is on this game. Fox moving it

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Speaker 1: into the late window to twenty five kickoff Arizona time,

835
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Speaker 1: that means something. Joe Buck, Troy Aikman, that means something.

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Speaker 1: And I think the players, the more we hear from them,

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00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 1: whether it's Byron Murphy or Jordan Hicks zach Ertz on Thursday,

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00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: they understand that they're under the gun. As far as

839
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Speaker 1: trying to end this losing streak and get some positive

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00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 1: play and a win going into the postseason. If it

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00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:22,280
Speaker 1: happens this week, great, If it happens next week, great,

842
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,760
Speaker 1: But they need something to get them back to feeling

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00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 1: confident about themselves, because whether they admit it or not,

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00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a lot of people out there that

845
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: have lost confidence in the Arizona Cardinals despite what they are.

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Speaker 1: Only five ten win teams six six the Rams are

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Speaker 1: released and now Cardinals are one of those teams. There's

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Speaker 1: not a single team in the AFC with ten wins

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Speaker 1: that are all in the NFC. I think I may

850
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Speaker 1: be on an island this week because I've asked a

851
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 1: couple of different players, Hey, now that you've clinched because

852
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: they were pressing, Kyler says, well, there wasn't a cloud office.

853
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: They were pressing. They had an opportunity in the Rams game.

854
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 1: I give the Rams credit that would they treated like

855
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 1: that like a playoff game? They were desperate considering the

856
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: Cardinals thumped them in Week four, I mean physically thumped them,

857
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 1: and then you know, you get to the Lions game

858
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: and maybe they didn't take them serious. I mean, it's

859
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,399
Speaker 1: safe to say, and next thing, you're down seventeen nothing.

860
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: And last week I thought they you know, went toe

861
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: to toe. That came down to the fourth quarter. But

862
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 1: I just think they were pressing and they weren't playing

863
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: clean football. But nobody I'm on on island this week,

864
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 1: nobody's agreeing with me that the pressure is off. Just

865
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 1: go out there and play. I've tried, I've asked different guys,

866
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 1: and you know, I get it. That's the mindset of

867
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: this team. This year has been one week at a time.

868
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: But I just feel like they were pushing. They were

869
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: pressing to where it affected them on the field. They

870
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 1: were trying to make plays, they were trying to get

871
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 1: a seventeen point score. When you gotta work, you got

872
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: to you gotta respect the process. You gotta go down

873
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 1: to kick a field goal and get a couple of touchdowns.

874
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:56,879
Speaker 1: But I feel like I'm on on island this week

875
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: and I just feel like the pressure is off. Now,

876
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 1: just go out there and play football. You clinch a

877
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 1: playoff Berth, and they're not getting enough credit from clinching

878
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 1: a playoff Berth with two games to go. Last year,

879
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 1: they couldn't win in a week sixteen and seventeen. It's

880
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: all we had to win his one game and they

881
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,919
Speaker 1: would have got in. So to me, the pressure's off. Yeah,

882
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 1: we get to the postseason, you know, you don't want

883
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 1: to be one and done. You know it's all going

884
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 1: to be based on matchups homewer away. But I feel

885
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 1: like this team should be able to play a little

886
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 1: bit looser where they don't have to say, oh, we

887
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: can't clinch a playoff berth for the last three weeks.

888
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm alan, we'll see how it works out. Maybe

889
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: they just don't want to agree with you because they

890
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: will know they'll go straight to your head and all

891
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 1: of a sudden you'll walking around and say I figured

892
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: them out. But I do think there's something to what

893
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:43,360
Speaker 1: you're saying that, not that there's less pressure. But I

894
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 1: know Kyle Murray used the cloud and it has been

895
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 1: I said the cloud. I said you again, I'm fine

896
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,919
Speaker 1: with that. He just said. Listen, a lot of people

897
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 1: are making comments about this football team. They don't know

898
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: what they're watching. And that's why I was encouraged this

899
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: week when they say, and they've been saying that all

900
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 1: your little things, we know, the penalties fallen behind, not

901
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,240
Speaker 1: being able to pick up third downs to extend drives,

902
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 1: not being able to score touchdowns in the red zone.

903
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 1: But according to them, and they haven't played their best game. Well,

904
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: the season's running out here. It's time. It's time, and

905
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 1: they have enough talent, and they have enough depth, and

906
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 1: they got enough leadership in this locker room to where

907
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 1: just go out there and play football. That's what they

908
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: did earlier in the season. And you know, whether the

909
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 1: national media was waiting for the shooter drop, which I

910
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: think they were, don't worry about it. You're in the

911
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,399
Speaker 1: playoffs and now you can kind of fine tune things

912
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 1: before you get into postseason. If they don't like what

913
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:38,240
Speaker 1: is being said, then change our minds and put something

914
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 1: on the football field that can be talked about, discussed,

915
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 1: broken down in a positive manner. You can't say that

916
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 1: these past three well and and again we can look

917
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: at every single game that they lost. You know, the

918
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: Lions game is going to stick out to me in

919
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 1: the Panthers game. Can't go back and change it. But

920
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 1: the perception would be a lot different if they were

921
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,800
Speaker 1: able to clinch in Detroit and have to worry about

922
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 1: you know, somebody else getting the mint and I keep

923
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 1: hearing where they backed their door in. They've earned the

924
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 1: right to be in this spot. They were eight and

925
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 1: one when Kyler was the starting quarterback. Okay, yes you're

926
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 1: ten and two and you're ten and five right now.

927
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: But again, at the end of the year, they don't

928
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 1: care who you beat, how many wins you have, and

929
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 1: the fact as they're not going, you know, putting on

930
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: cruise control. That's not my point. I'm just saying you

931
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: don't have the same pressure to where every three games

932
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: in a row, Oh, you couldn't clinch well when you

933
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 1: got ten wins at this point in the year, and

934
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: teams in other cities right now are just hoping they

935
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 1: went out and get help. Cardinals don't have to deal

936
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,959
Speaker 1: with that kind of stuff. Hopefully the pressure is off,

937
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 1: whether they want to admit it or not, and this

938
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: team does play better coming up on Sunday, and for

939
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: the Cardinals to win, Wow, that will tease us moving forward.

940
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:53,720
Speaker 1: Mike Drecky was some homework on this Thursday nights Thursday

941
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: Night football, so you have your entire evening free well

942
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 1: as shoes playing at age sixteen, I don't know if

943
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna last that long, I'll watch the beginning.

944
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: You know Ross Collagie, former Cardinals. He's a strengthen and

945
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 1: gitioning coach at Wisconsin. So I wonder if he is

946
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: shoes is just happy to be in this bowl game

947
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 1: and are they gonna match the physicality. But there has

948
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: been some Bowl games on but I kind of know

949
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 1: right now what I'm when I'm thinking in um, if

950
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: you listen to the show over the last couple of weeks,

951
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Speaker 1: Pound the Rock, Pound the Rock. Baby. On that note,

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Speaker 1: we will put a lid on this edition of Cardinals

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Speaker 1: Cover two, presented by Hunday partner of the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: As always, special thanks to our executive producer jem Mo'm

955
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Speaker 1: monro for Mike Drecky, I'm Craig Rio Loup. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: to you next time here on Cardinals Cover two