1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 1: The volume. All right, we're back man, another episode of 2 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: Club five to twenty Podcasts. This ain't even a guest. 3 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 1: We gotta film me in the building. Man, we've been 4 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: waiting for this episode for a minute. Man introduced my 5 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: man's last. To my far left, my dog Bi should 6 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: be hearing out the pre least how you would nasty cool. 7 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 2: And Phoenix Baby, let's get to it for show. 8 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 3: To my right, my dog young not Cho, young tig. 9 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 3: How you what I'm chilling? 10 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 2: Bro? 11 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: You already know I'm right right here. It's my dog 12 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: the door. I ain't gonna hold you, j R. I 13 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: got the special you know special pack from j My 14 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 1: boy Dang hooked us up. 15 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 2: Man. 16 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 3: We in formula zero. 17 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 2: We all here. You love it. 18 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 3: Is Man till my left. 19 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 1: Man, we got a big ten legend on Higo State legend, 20 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 1: longtime NBA vet and the man of the Point for 21 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: a podcast. We got at Evan Turner in the building. 22 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: Big dog appreciate you sliding on his brother. 23 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 2: And appreciate y'all. Man, y'all invited me. Like I said, 24 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 2: I was touched, but it took so long to pull 25 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 2: up because I didn't want to give you y'all stink 26 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 2: er interview. 27 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 3: Hold on, Bro, that's so long to come up. 28 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 2: I was like, Man, I don't know if I can 29 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 2: really they pause be popping. 30 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if I dull it down or not. 31 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: We follow you on Twitter, Elite Twitter. It's my best word, that's. 32 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:24,839 Speaker 2: My best work. Sometimes I'd be like, Bro, are people 33 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 2: watching when I'm posting? Because I'm going crazy? And what 34 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 2: you're saying a circuit if you think about it, Bro, 35 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 2: that beat it. Next wave of back niggas want to 36 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 2: be no more. We would have lost the serviet. It 37 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 2: would have been over. And I'm like, Bro, they could 38 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 2: be some nigga's name Lebron like Nia just being some 39 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 2: nigga name. Lebron is over for us, y'all because I'm 40 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 2: being dead. Seriously, let's start off with the. 41 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 3: Order of my dog. 42 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: This story goes way back for me because I remember 43 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: meeting Et when I was like sophomore in high school. 44 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: Freshman in high school. He played for the Illinois Wolves. 45 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 2: Bro. 46 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: They had nice jersey uniform, team was all put together 47 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: and here I come with these nappy braids, reversible jerseys, 48 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: our own shorts, and were playing against Evan and Dimitri 49 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 1: and they used to beat our assy. 50 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 2: We used to practice, they had plays. 51 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: We should just come to the tournament now, But I 52 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 1: knew et since back then. Man, it's dope to see 53 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: where you came from there to now. It's crazy as hell. 54 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 3: See. 55 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny because you know, even back in that tournament, uh, 56 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 2: you know, back in the day, like if you like 57 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 2: an unsigned senior, you could play AAU. So we were 58 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 2: playing seventeen or under, but we were sixteen, and I 59 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 2: remember like just seeing the jerseys, not really knowing like 60 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 2: who he was. But I'm like, oh, he he picking 61 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 2: our pockets like Buddy Dunk and Ship Buddy, you know 62 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 2: what I mean, like just giving us pure hells on 63 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 2: my head. I'm like, he got to be an unsigned senior. 64 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 2: So while we're playing Ship, I'm kind of like, hey, bro, 65 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 2: like we can play over here, Ship, Like we got 66 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 2: jersey like everything like Bush. 67 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 1: He said that the middle of the game, Bro, like 68 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: you can play with us, Bro, we got jerseys. 69 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 3: I said, that's wrong with this. 70 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 2: You want to go to rebound to rebod cam like everything. 71 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: I don't. 72 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 2: I don't know. So once that game's over, we're like, Bro, 73 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 2: Buddy's so cold. So we talked to our AU coach. 74 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 2: I'm like, well, where is he supposed to go? This' like, bro, 75 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 2: that kid is your age? Like that kid is my age. 76 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 2: So like when we're sitting I'm like, bro, that's no 77 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 2: cat Gee. We all said you was better than d 78 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 2: Rose at the time. 79 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 4: Niggas was true, don't That's how good she was playing 80 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 4: it right, So we might in some moments, but. 81 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 2: No that hey, we must have been living to you 82 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 2: because he was killing us. And I just remember sitting 83 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 2: there and always just remembering, uh, find out you are 84 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 2: my age and just being like, man, it's gonna be 85 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 2: a tough climb up if I got the battlever time. 86 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 2: And we go to AU. We go to a b 87 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 2: C D camp and like our whole team was just 88 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 2: like every tournament you were in. We were just paying 89 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 2: attention to you and be like what the tea kid do? 90 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 2: What the t kid do? I remember my a you 91 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 2: turn coach telling Skip Prosser like you might want the Meitri. 92 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 2: This is the one Noyea. I remember, like literally like 93 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 2: the Metri is the coldest dude ever seen. And we're 94 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 2: like like chost Cap, like that dude over there that 95 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 2: only like to play every other game. It's the truth. 96 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 2: He was just showing up like like a B C 97 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 2: D camp and not look interesting, like you know, we 98 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 2: try and change our lives, right. 99 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 1: But you know it's just my look, bro, how I 100 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 1: really feel? I just looked like that home was killing. 101 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 4: That's saying with an your age, ask you over there, SI. 102 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 2: You know I went to the tournament. We're still unsigned, 103 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 2: so I'm expecting every tournament to look like some ship 104 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 2: on TV. Like, so I want to go change my life. 105 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 2: So when I'm showing up, they got reversible jerseys. This 106 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 2: ain't this ain't it? 107 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 1: Bro? 108 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 3: I can't get jiggy. 109 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 2: With him, like Mike. I'm like, man, and I might 110 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 2: do with the four X. 111 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. 112 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 2: J Williams never gonna crazy and yeh and that was 113 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 2: nearly Jeff T and no funny ship. I had been 114 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 2: a fan ever since then. You're like sixteen years old. 115 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 2: That was in Louisville, Kentucky. Was you already that guy 116 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 2: around that time too? Though? 117 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: Uh? 118 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 2: Yeah he was Yeah, he was were talking, bro, he was. 119 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: I was mean, he can handle the ball, so we like, 120 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 1: damn this nigga six seven would handle like he always 121 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: had that right to left that left to right. 122 00:05:58,800 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 2: That mug was mean. 123 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, we like, I'm like, damn he tall ship dripping 124 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 1: the ball the point because when he was coming in 125 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 1: the game, we thought he was gonna be like the 126 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: power forward and he handling the rock and the little 127 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 1: white dudes was just run around shooting threes, and him 128 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: and Dimitri got the ball. We like, we ain't got 129 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 1: nobody to guard, so he used to kill us. And 130 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: I'll nerve forget like the Metri cold and you know, 131 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: feel like, nah heat the cold when lookout tall he is. 132 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: And that's how we became fans. And we was like, damn, 133 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: I just kept up with him. And when I see 134 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: him go to Old State, I'm like them we going 135 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 1: there with because we thought Michael was staying. So I'm like, 136 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: damn me going there with Mike and them. That's crazy, 137 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: But I'll let you keep going DJ. 138 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 2: And that was That's pretty much it. Bro. I just 139 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 2: remember going back to those days and like how loaded 140 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 2: paul As that class was even then. What I'm saying, like, 141 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 2: we thought she was better than Dee Rose, but they 142 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 2: had like Chris Wright, they had you know what I mean, 143 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,359 Speaker 2: Jay Lucas's so they had damn and everybody. It was 144 00:06:55,400 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 2: tough to make All American games and oh yeah, yeah, 145 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 2: j was trapped. But growing up in Indianapolis around that time, 146 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 2: it was probably pire hell. 147 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: Ship probably signed for you in Chicago, like, oh yeah, 148 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: the Rose is prown. Yeah what's that like? Though, Like 149 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: in high school, competing against d Rose. 150 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 2: It was you gotta think he was he was d 151 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 2: Rose back then. So I remember the first time I 152 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 2: ever really seen him. Uh, we had like an eighth 153 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 2: grade All star game and it's like West Suburbs vers 154 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 2: West Side, South Suburbs for South Side and I think 155 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 2: like Northwest down State. So I was playing on the 156 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 2: West Side team, so I was playing in a different games. 157 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 2: But I remember being in the back and I see 158 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 2: like a trophy and it's like player of the Year 159 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 2: Derek Rose. I'm like, well, who the player of the 160 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 2: year Derek Rose? Who the hell is Dereck Rose? Type stuff? 161 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 2: Like why would he get a whole trophy? And I'm 162 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 2: here type ship, That's what I like. 163 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. 164 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 2: Then like before you know it, Buddy just pulled up 165 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,559 Speaker 2: and dunking everything. He goes to Semeon. He wasn't allowed 166 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 2: to play his freshman year, but then once a sophomore 167 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 2: year hit. He was he was God and everybody else 168 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 2: is just them, like you know what I mean. So 169 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 2: I was a distant second when we grew up playing. 170 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 2: But to grow up and play in the city of Chicago, 171 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 2: it's just crazy across Pat bed too. Yeah, Pat Bad. 172 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 2: People don't man Pat Bad to me. You can say 173 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 2: d Rose is out there g but Pat Bad was 174 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 2: throwing up forty yeah, publicly taking out everybody. So I 175 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 2: thought it was pretty dope. We had like a lot 176 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 2: of dope talent during that time. And when you see 177 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 2: what they're doing now. You look at John Shire during 178 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 2: that time, he was by far head over heels better 179 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 2: than everybody until d Rose took him out. He's shipped 180 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 2: the coach a duke. Yeah. Collins left period Kan and 181 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 2: then this player at Kansas. You look at Jake Pulling. 182 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 2: People forget Jake pulling all the time and scored from there. 183 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 4: It was that high school my fault that he went to. 184 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 4: Jake Pulling went to provide who was that big man 185 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 4: from there, Brian Carwell, We went to Saint Joe. Yes, 186 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 4: that was my bad. I just had a moment, Yeah. 187 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 2: Because he came to Indiana and yeah, bro, and then 188 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 2: that turned to Greg Golden and Mike Conley and that 189 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,079 Speaker 2: was like a big deal. So, you know, around that time, 190 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 2: growing up in Chicago, I think like there's like twenty 191 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 2: players in the top twenty from the state that went 192 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 2: D one, so you know what I mean. So I 193 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 2: was playing versus a bunch of kids in the Big 194 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 2: ten and I grew up playing Verse since I was 195 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 2: ten years old. 196 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 3: That's a show. 197 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: And it was so crazy in the city, especially in 198 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: that time period at oh five or six oh seven. Yeah, 199 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 1: because you go from Josh McRoberts to Mike and Greg 200 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,079 Speaker 1: and then yeah, we had a. 201 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 2: Brough And I remember talking to Brad Stevens. He was 202 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 2: just saying, like I would go recruit like from Butler, 203 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 2: not trying to go get them, but I would wait 204 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 2: to go see a guy play Verse something and be like, 205 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 2: if they do decent, I know they're pretty good, because 206 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 2: these dudes are going to be NBA Hall of Famers, 207 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. 208 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 3: It's crazy. 209 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 2: What was it like you had the battle? What was 210 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 2: it like coming up in that time? Did that kind 211 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 2: of kill your confiden and that you weren't Mike Nah? 212 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 2: You know, because like you was cold. 213 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 1: Bro, Noah, because like Mike Mike, Dad's the reason our 214 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 1: game confidence because I used to have good games against Mike, 215 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: but I was like a hood hooper like. 216 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 3: And shit like that. 217 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: So like when I played again, so I just wanted 218 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: to crossing because I knew everybody's gonna talk about it 219 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: like I'm just gonna crossing. But then I started getting 220 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: competitive and I was scoring stuff. But I ain't never 221 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: look at it like that. They were just Gregg and 222 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: Mike to me, Like I didn't really know they was 223 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: like a big, big deal until I went to Vegas 224 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: and I've seen how people was treating them. 225 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, dya shit, like you know be here, were. 226 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: Like oh that's great. Oh they can't go outside. Though 227 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: I can go outside like I'm in with my friendly 228 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: at the parties in the streets. They can't do that. 229 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: So it didn't look fun to me to beat them. 230 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: But then when I seen kind of love they was 231 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: getting everywhere else, like they got rebock deals, and I'm like, 232 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:00,040 Speaker 1: oh yeah, they getting the real love. I'm getting the 233 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 1: booties is getting tirked on at the club. They get 234 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: the real stuff, So it wouldn't ain't mean nothing until 235 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,079 Speaker 1: I got to there and I'm like, I gotta figure 236 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 1: it out. Then Coach Conley kind of put a battery 237 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,319 Speaker 1: in my back, like you just as good as them, man, 238 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: it's his son, you Like, damn you think I'm good 239 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: as hell? 240 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 2: Mere? 241 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 3: Like yeah, you should have all these offers too. 242 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: And I'm like, shit, he gassed me, and he gassed 243 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: me to a whole nother level to be honest. 244 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 2: No, that's hard, bro, Yeah, that's definitely hard. 245 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 3: Shout to coach Connley. 246 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: Man for sure, Like you said, man going crazy in Chicago. 247 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: How'd you end up at Ohio State? 248 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 2: Sid? Uh? My dad's from Ohio. So every summer else 249 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 2: like nine to ten, I would go visit him in Columbus. 250 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 2: So I would go to like Ohio State sports camps 251 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 2: and I go to like Clark Kellar camp and he 252 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 2: was like a big deal at the time. Yeah, so 253 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 2: in the summertime, I kind of when I first went there, 254 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 2: like I kind of knew, like how big of a deal, 255 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 2: Like people like mess with the buck eye. So you 256 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 2: fast forward like senior, like six years later, We're playing 257 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 2: at the King James Tournament and I'm playing versus some 258 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 2: white pigeon toe dude, and he's like the state. He 259 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 2: just scored seventy seven points. His name is John Diebler. 260 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 2: So we're playing versus each other and I'm looking at stands. 261 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 2: There's a bunch of like scouts and coaches there, so 262 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 2: apparently thad models there. So you know when you're young 263 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 2: and they telling you like, hey, you're about to play 264 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 2: for the best. Dude whatever he did, so you know, 265 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 2: you go out. You're like this white dude like, man, 266 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 2: I'm finna put on for the hood. So buddy, come out. 267 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 2: He get me like five straight threes and then like 268 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 2: you know, like they had a burner. Yeah, burner like volleyball. 269 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 2: I had never seen somebody just like dribbling down the 270 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 2: court and like pull out. He wasn't looking at the line, 271 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 2: he was just pulling out of nowhere. Now. I was like, bro, 272 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 2: this dude is different, and luckily I played well. That 273 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 2: was like a Saturday. By that Thursday, I was on 274 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 2: Ohio State campus and should I got offered. I went 275 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 2: to NBA camp in June. I was like, bro, I 276 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 2: gotta go somewhere. That's it was a dumb ass decision 277 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 2: that should have just went to Wisconsin or Illinois. But 278 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, day Kwon Cook, Mike Conley, all of 279 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 2: them at All State. I got to get ready and 280 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 2: go there. But it was just like the boys pauses loaded. 281 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:16,119 Speaker 2: But at the same time, like you think about my trajectory, 282 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 2: If like day Kwan Cook would have never left that 283 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 2: first year, I might have been sitting for a year 284 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 2: and a half two years. But I just thought when 285 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 2: I was a kid that the thought of competition and 286 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 2: being from Chicago, I thought like a top recruiting class 287 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 2: or somewhere big I would be able to perform at 288 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 2: and that should just worked out for sure. Incoming class though, 289 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 2: yeah worked out. 290 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 3: They definitely worked out. 291 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 2: I was nice. What was the thirty three's name I had? 292 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 2: I forgot his name, It was John Die twenty three 293 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 2: is David, Yeah had Will Beuford. Yeah. Will ended up 294 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 2: like the second time all leading scored dealer ing up 295 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 2: breaking the conference three point record, and Dave was like 296 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 2: the all time winner or whatever. I was cold and 297 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 2: was played year. Yeah, and uh you know we finished 298 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 2: eg sellinger is the best ever do it man. He 299 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 2: was so coold. I didn't play with him, but the 300 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 2: next year he really killed it. But you know, during 301 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 2: that time, I just felt like the Big ten was 302 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 2: something I was really familiar with, and you know, just 303 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 2: going close to home was a big deal and that 304 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 2: was really it. But when I look back on that, 305 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 2: acc Ball might have been more fun, bro, what was 306 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 2: definitely fun. I was trying to go to n C State, 307 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 2: to be honest with you, and then, uh, you actually 308 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 2: fit them, That's what I'm saying. I saw Julius Hodge. Yeah, 309 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 2: they had to do Brandon Kysler, Yeah, straight, but right 310 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 2: had committed and Syndackett eventually ended up dipping. But uh yeah, 311 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 2: and then I was either that or Waite Force, which 312 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 2: was you know coach Prosser and uh, what's the Italian coach? Yeah, Gottiyo. 313 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 2: We were on there, but we pulled up the wait 314 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 2: Forest and you know, our coach asked about like the 315 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 2: black population, and there's like I think the guys go 316 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 2: across the street to with some sale. We did, and 317 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 2: my coach was like, nah, bro, you ain't supposed to 318 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 2: leave campus. Okay. It's like as a white man, I'm offended. 319 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 3: I remember what. I remember what I said to wake Force. 320 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: He said that he was like, there ain't no black 321 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: people on there, and he was like, y'all got said 322 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: at the front of the classroom. I was like, damn, 323 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: I went to the wake Forest. We had legitimate at 324 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: the front of the classroom. 325 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 2: Damn, bro he set it tightened up. 326 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 3: I used to go to one same on State here 327 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 3: the other day. 328 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 2: So there's a lot of black people. 329 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 3: Stay with you. 330 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 2: It's decent, MOMMI. You could count on everybody being from Cleveland, 331 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. The state is from Cleveland, 332 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 2: but there's some niggas in Cleveland. Yeah, but it's a 333 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 2: decent vibe. I think college is cool for what it was. 334 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 2: I learned a lot and you know, but the real 335 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 2: gig was just trying to get to the league. 336 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 3: Yeah for sure. I mean you get off the subject. 337 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: But you know, I'm saying I l money shit going on, 338 00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: especially how you played in college, what you did. 339 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, you you might have said that year for the 340 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 3: little check you check. 341 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 2: I probably would have flamed out way quicker because I 342 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 2: be able to handle, you know, everything that came at me, 343 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 2: the craft, the crack, Johnny Manzil, all right, Marcus George, 344 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 2: I would have died like girl saying he got a game. 345 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:36,239 Speaker 2: I can already read and write schools. 346 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 3: Not right, Oh, Ship, obviously you know what I'm saying. 347 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. You go on drift night. 348 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 3: How was that process for you? 349 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: Because you know what I'm saying, you number two pick, 350 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: and that was it was a cool, you know process 351 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: when I hear everybody else's horror stories, you know, but 352 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: I was blessed. 353 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 2: It was cool. I did one workout and when the 354 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 2: balls dropped, Paul, we were we knew that I would 355 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 2: go to Philly because John Wall was legit. So John 356 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 2: Wall was a consensus and I just knew, like when 357 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 2: number two dropted, oh I guess I'll be a Philadelphia 358 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 2: or whatever. So luckily that was the case, and we 359 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 2: went and did a workout, and you know, everything worked 360 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 2: well until the first game and then you know, life change. 361 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 3: What happened. 362 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 2: No, just like Ship was real, Like I was supposed 363 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:39,959 Speaker 2: to come in and be brun right, perfect live. I 364 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 2: had to go talk to my sponsors. So when people 365 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 2: are like y'all got partners like I don't have, Like 366 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 2: I didn't have them by the second year. So what 367 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 2: did you think he was coming to? You was gonna 368 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,199 Speaker 2: be the man on Philly because you know it's cold, 369 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 2: you know what's wrong. You weren't saying clearly, but that 370 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 2: was iggy Enham team. 371 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 3: You got drafted to a tough team. 372 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 2: Got honest with you. I'm just joking. I got drafted 373 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 2: to a really good team in a really good situation. 374 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 2: And when I thought at Philly, I was like, no, 375 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 2: I want to go to Golden State at number seven 376 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 2: because I wanted to play with Steph like Paul is 377 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 2: really really bad, and uh, I just knew the fit 378 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 2: and I knew Dre wasn't no slouch. But back in 379 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 2: the day, people forget we just started going into this 380 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 2: team ball like before it was like a couple of 381 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 2: years before that, like the Trailblazers didn't draft KD because 382 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:27,400 Speaker 2: I adn't think b Roy and KD like it had 383 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 2: to be one alpha guard, one alpha big type situation. 384 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 2: So when it came down to it, like I really 385 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 2: just showed up and it was like there was ah, 386 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 2: you know, it's Dre's team, and you kind of got 387 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 2: like really fit in getting where you fit in. So 388 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 2: that development of what you saw John wall Get. I'm 389 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 2: not saying I've been John Waller, even Wes C. Johnson. 390 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 2: He was in Minnesota cracking and you know, getting getting 391 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,199 Speaker 2: crazy opportunity. But it was it was a cool, you 392 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 2: know experience, and that was probably one of my favorite teams. 393 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 4: Who grabbed like not grabbed you. That's crazy, but right 394 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 4: what what if it really took you on? Today Winnings 395 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 4: gave the game. 396 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 2: Right away. Yeah, right away, right away, Lou will shout 397 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 2: out to Lou. Yeah the uh, I think he just 398 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 2: took a liking into me because I just thought he 399 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 2: was like, bro, what's to this man? You know? But 400 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 2: I remember like the first one of the first couple 401 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 2: of days, he picked me up and we went to 402 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 2: the gun range and then he just took me around 403 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 2: the city. And you know, that's the first real time 404 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 2: I ever got drunk was with Lou Williams and damn Lou. Yeah, 405 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 2: but but it was some real stuff. So I was 406 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 2: chopping it up. I was going through like some rough 407 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 2: rookie stuff and I'm talking about like I'm in the dumps. So, uh, 408 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 2: we losing Philly, you know, Doug Collins is you know, 409 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 2: he's definitely ah, you know, being tough on me in 410 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 2: a sense. We losing Philly, Landy Detroit so it's like, uh, 411 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 2: meet me in a lobby in twenty minutes. It's not 412 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 2: an option. So I meet him in lobby. We go 413 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 2: next door at the bar and he's just like, you 414 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 2: got like eight shots lined up type of ship, and 415 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 2: he's like you should start and talk. He's like, look, bruh, 416 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 2: this game of bout aastball source to be fun. It 417 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 2: shouldn't be up and down. Like if you bring this 418 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 2: ship home with you, you're gonna be mad every single 419 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 2: goddamn day. He's like, you ain't have fun since you've 420 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 2: been here. It's like, just let that shit go be 421 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 2: who you're gonna be. But like, you can't bring this 422 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 2: shit home with you, like you don't literally let your 423 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 2: head explode. And he's like that's it. Just go out there, 424 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 2: try hoop if a nest from there, but like you 425 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 2: can really hoop. And I was like all right, bet, 426 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 2: and he's like, okay, now make sure you finished the shot. 427 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 2: So like so I had like so that, like I 428 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 2: took like two or three shots like off the bat. 429 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 2: But I remember like Lou was somebody I could always 430 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 2: rely on or relate to because he had went through 431 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 2: everything as a player, Like when I was tripping practice 432 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 2: and be like, man, you got me, you got me 433 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 2: running your plays. I ain't run them in the game. 434 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 2: He'd be like, motherfucker. Like when I was your age, 435 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 2: they would take me out of practice and a coach 436 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 2: for practice. You understand what I'm saying. So like, so 437 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 2: when it came down to it, it's like I got 438 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 2: real game from him. Eldon Brand was super cool and 439 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 2: then obviously Iguodala. We had a butt hit to start, 440 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 2: but eventually towards the end of my first year, we 441 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 2: became my brothers. Like by the fourth year, you know, 442 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 2: we didn't even play on the same team. I was 443 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 2: the best man in his widding. And then you know 444 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 2: when he had his daughter, you know, he named her Evan, 445 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,239 Speaker 2: and it was like, I thought this so like when 446 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 2: we got to that level of like friendship and like connecting, 447 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 2: I just felt like we had like a relationship that's 448 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 2: just bigger than basketball. And that was what I really 449 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 2: took from those vets because even my ups and down times, 450 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 2: I could always count on them and depend on them, 451 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 2: even if I felt like I didn't have a friend 452 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 2: all right, So after them shots of and j Yeah, 453 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 2: ship shots though. 454 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 4: It was honey, I was saying, Petron is Petronney, That's 455 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, and that I had a shot of 456 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 4: Cranberry and I was, so. 457 00:21:58,080 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 2: When did you start getting comfortable in the league? Though? 458 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,640 Speaker 2: What I think there's different levels of comfort, not even 459 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 2: so much playing, but so much is just like saying, 460 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 2: forgetting accepting my role. You know. I think one thing 461 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 2: that occurred was I came in super early speak. When 462 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,199 Speaker 2: you listen to your ages and stuff, you're trying to 463 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 2: carry a brand. So yeah, I could have been like 464 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 2: a prima digna type shit, and I was. But I 465 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 2: think one thing when I started getting comfortable is just 466 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 2: really buying into like the team atmosphere and really accepting 467 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 2: my role and not really worried about like what people think, 468 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 2: and just trying to go from worry about being great 469 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 2: to just getting good each day, but also just swimming. 470 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 2: You know, when you get selected high, like you look 471 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 2: at Anthony Bennett, they cut you know, Andy Bennet could 472 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 2: still be good, but like they undercome quick and like, bro, 473 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 2: you're sad, like you needed like two thorough years. He 474 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 2: was done within like twenty games and shit. So I 475 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 2: was just on some like sink or swim and like 476 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 2: try to figure out how to be the best player 477 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 2: I could. 478 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 1: And that's one thing that they don't speak about a lot, 479 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:55,360 Speaker 1: is like when you come in the league, especially when 480 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 1: you have expectations, is there's no time for you to 481 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: fuck up, and you have to be less to be 482 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: in a good organization or to have good vets. If 483 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: you don't have either one of them, or if you 484 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 1: don't have both, hit can get real spooky. And then, 485 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 1: like you said, you bring work home with you, you all 486 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: in your head trying to play basketball. 487 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 3: You forget how good you off that shit. 488 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 2: I'm playing in Philly, bro that the worst fans ever. Yeah, 489 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 2: I'm playing in Philly. Is definitely different. So I felt 490 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 2: as though like being in Philly for that little bit 491 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 2: of time really kind of not saying like made us 492 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:24,919 Speaker 2: sick on a sense of how I like viewed the 493 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 2: game of basketball. I was just like, you know, kind 494 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 2: of like fuck it, I'm gonna have fun with it. 495 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 2: But once I left fifth Philly, there was nothing ever 496 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 2: that serious that was like that bad or tough because 497 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 2: all that pressure there was od yea, I was supposed 498 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 2: to be the number two pick and do whatever I 499 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 2: went complete opposite and they had to like conteenue to swim, 500 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. After my fourth year in 501 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 2: the league, dudes were signing for thirty some million and 502 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 2: I'm all for two hundred and fifty thousand, you know 503 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 2: what I mean. Like when dudes were signing, like I'm 504 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 2: trying to it was damn there like September, I damn, 505 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 2: they didn't have a place to go. Dam I'm twenty 506 00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 2: five years old. Like people are hitting the streets, asked 507 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 2: you staying in the league or going overseas? M hm. 508 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 2: So when you're sitting down, you're like, damn, just four 509 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 2: years ago, I had ship popping. But you know what 510 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 2: I mean. So like I just felt like I had 511 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 2: to really you know, lock in, buckle in, but like 512 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 2: almost on like some ship Entourage ship. When it came 513 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 2: to Anny Chase, like bro, I'm not getting I'm not 514 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 2: getting lead roles no more, you know what I'm saying. 515 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 2: And that was just like the real thing. Where was 516 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 2: you off to next? 517 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 3: Portland? 518 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,360 Speaker 2: I ended up going to Boston. 519 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:35,120 Speaker 4: And that's when when you h that's why, Yeah. 520 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 2: That's when the band came. 521 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: Everybody can came together. Boy. 522 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 2: Uh, we had Uh, we definitely had two years in Boston. 523 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,919 Speaker 2: It was definitely fun and you know it, it had uh 524 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 2: obviously reunited a feeling for me enjoy playing basketball and 525 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 2: also had uh had a great foundation for a landing point. 526 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 2: When I was done, I still go to Boston. You know, 527 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 2: you get get mad love and at the same time 528 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 2: have opportunities to still you know, it's been Uh, my 529 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,400 Speaker 2: position and game of basketball just help for sure. 530 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 3: Man, we got we're gonn fast too far. We got 531 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 3: to talk about y'all linoking up in Boston. 532 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 2: Man, It's to be honest with you. Gee, Like I 533 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 2: thought it was cool. I knew Jeff was cool, but 534 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 2: I used to be like, bro, if you're this funny, 535 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 2: why do you not show that, like, like literally show 536 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 2: people that. Like I thought he's the funniest dude on earth. 537 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 2: Now I thought he was nice, and Uh, the funniest 538 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 2: thing about Boston I was waiting around to Uh. It 539 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 2: was either I was gonna retire or I was waiting 540 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 2: for Boston, like I ain't have no chances. And Brad 541 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 2: was kind of like, maybe I'll throw you a bone. 542 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 2: So like when it came down between me and Jeff, 543 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,399 Speaker 2: I'm talking like poor Allen's like, man, it's between you 544 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 2: and Jeff. I'm like, well, y'all should just take Jeff 545 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 2: because I'm not better than Jeff. Like if y'all trying 546 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 2: to win a championship, I'm like, bro, that's just that's 547 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 2: O D. So then we show up and like they 548 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 2: take Jeff and like I'm just like, all right, I 549 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,919 Speaker 2: guess I'll on the coaching pretty much. Jeff is just 550 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 2: like we end up being like. 551 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 3: One of the times. 552 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 2: The back of the bitch. I'll look over and Jeff 553 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 2: and like you have his shoelace. Sometime we just be 554 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 2: told was that nigga not brough there? At one point 555 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, I'm right, Bro, this is how you 556 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,439 Speaker 2: know it's different. And it's like, bro, everywhere you go, 557 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 2: like you would be able to keep your initial don't 558 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 2: name is Jeff t you know. So when we're going 559 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 2: on the board, I'm looking at Brad and Brad like 560 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 2: JD k W and Jet j T Like what the 561 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 2: fuck is Jet? Like is Jet? Yeah? It is like 562 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 2: Jeff TIGG. I'm like, my nigga, you can't he's older 563 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 2: than Jason Table. He can't get his. 564 00:26:54,560 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 4: In you remember, and that's you know what's loked up 565 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 4: about it? 566 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 3: He wrote to play. He was like JT said somebody else, 567 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 3: So I'm thinking I got the ball. I'm like all right. 568 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 3: So I was like, hold on when I when he 569 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 3: go here, I go here. He's like no, no, no, no, 570 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 3: you're here, Jet. 571 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 2: What the Kim? Kim in tears and I'm in the back. 572 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 2: I'm like, Bro, No, they ain't just call you Jet. 573 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 2: Kim is crying. 574 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,360 Speaker 3: Kim called me Jet the rest of the year. Bro, 575 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 3: Smiff is crazy. Bros is like kidding at ain't walking 576 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 3: like little please? 577 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 2: But that that time in Boston, I mean, I don't 578 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 2: know how Jet felt. Hell, like, what the hell are 579 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 2: we doing moment? Because it's COVID. Yeah, man, like I'm 580 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 2: trying to tell dudes that were better than me how 581 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 2: to play basketball. That's when I knew coaching was full 582 00:27:55,480 --> 00:28:05,719 Speaker 2: of ship because I was like, I'm like a dacity you, Bro, 583 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 2: this man is a problem in that, you know. Yeah, 584 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 2: they had me beat Jason Tatum position like, Bro, he's 585 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 2: not listen to shout out say like you know what 586 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 2: I mean. I'm like, Bro, I'm not gonna tell him 587 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 2: nothing like a work one on with this like, no, 588 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 2: it's perfectly fine. But we were able to. We got, 589 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 2: we made bonds, were playing one over. Yeah, for sure, 590 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 2: we got. 591 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,439 Speaker 1: We got a classic group chat Man midwe called the 592 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 1: mid West Group chat Man. We all became really cool. 593 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: That experience in Boston. Bro, it's funny as hell, what 594 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: did you? I wanted to always ask us. 595 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 2: Even in that experience in Boston, I still thought you 596 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 2: had a two or three more years to play like 597 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 2: what you did. Boston kind of stopped. We saw each 598 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 2: other in Atlanta and I told you before, Bro, it's 599 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 2: almost over for me. Yeah, you know what I mean. 600 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: You told me not that you shouldn't be here and 601 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: so you shouldn't be so you shouldn't be in London. 602 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 2: They're gonna get eleven point two minutes per game. 603 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: He told me that, and they I didn't sign. They 604 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: offered me a year another year after that, but I 605 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: didn't sign. I should have had signed it. I don't 606 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: know what I was thinking, but I hated it so 607 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: much because I was like, damn, I love Atlanta, but 608 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: they told me I had a cap like you can 609 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: only play. 610 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 3: Nineteen minutes, you know what I mean? 611 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: It was just like Damn, I was just averaging fourteen 612 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: off the bench of Minnesota. 613 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 3: Well, I come here. All I can get is nineteen minutes. 614 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: Bro, I was them there being a runner for six 615 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: man fourteen and twenty two minutes. 616 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 3: I was hoping. 617 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 2: Damn. 618 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 1: I was like, nah, and I thought COVID happened. I 619 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: should have went. 620 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 2: To the next. 621 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 1: Tim's like, come on to the next You're gonna probably start. 622 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: But then Brad caught me. It was like, Kimba's out, 623 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: You're gonna start. Kimball's going Kimba's out for you. Remember 624 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,959 Speaker 1: Kimball was hurting and then you woke up. He was like, 625 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: you're gonna start. Kimball's out, and I'm like, damn. The 626 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: Celtics cold like. I was like the Knicks. I don't 627 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: know too much about the Knicks. Ain't got nobody, So 628 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: I'm go to Boston. I was like, that's gonna really 629 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: get me back. 630 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 2: And I got there. 631 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 1: He was like, we're gonna start markets at the point, 632 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:09,719 Speaker 1: you're gonna be the sixth man. 633 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 2: The six man. 634 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 3: I'm like, in the first game, I hooked like three layers. 635 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 2: But I'm right, mane, I'm in a bench, like Bro, 636 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 2: they just can't get right but he don't. 637 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: Breakaway left to say, but it got to the point 638 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: I didn't miss a three the whole preseason. 639 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 2: No time out. You was missing so many layups. We 640 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 2: had played three on three and when you have made 641 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 2: a layup, run them short. 642 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 4: It's like he usually miss, so miss little jet with us. 643 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: I was so scared to shoot the left at that time, 644 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: I would really shoot a three. I was making so 645 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 1: many threes. I was like, fuck that. I ain't running 646 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: to fast breaks. I was running to the corner. 647 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 4: Damn. 648 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 3: I was scared to shoot a layup. Damn. I don't 649 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 3: know why. 650 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: But then I had a game at the end where 651 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: we started playing again. My labs came back, but I 652 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: couldn't shoot no more. My three was broke his hell. 653 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 2: But that was did you ever tell and you said 654 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 2: something that was this one of like Jeff a lot 655 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 2: of Pauls because he was his opin was super different 656 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 2: and might to somebody that like be saying some off 657 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 2: the wall stuff. My year, that's my man, And I 658 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 2: remember we're in a gym and you're like, bro, that's 659 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 2: my unpopular opinion. But I think James Harden is a 660 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 2: better shooting guard than Kobe. 661 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 4: Bryant, don't say that. I've been waiting to say this, 662 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 4: so we would have talked about this. This is gonna 663 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 4: go virus. 664 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 3: Getting killed for so long. Can seriously man, Kobe right, 665 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 3: he said the k was better than Kobe as episode. 666 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 2: You can call me. They're going after you. 667 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 3: That's that's at that time we were talking about We're 668 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 3: talking about that. Okay, I did not say that. 669 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 2: I'm ill be be lying too. He ain't say none 670 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 2: of that. 671 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 3: I ain't going down that, Kobe, bro. 672 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 4: But you had great the dude that said it had 673 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 4: great day, I said, And then I said that. 674 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not going to say that. Never mind you, 675 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 2: it was good. 676 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: It was Jailer and was battling and him, were just 677 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 1: having a conversation and e T And Jason was there. 678 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 2: It was I think you said. And then Jason and 679 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 2: Jay they went crazy. They went nuts. They definitely went nuts. 680 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 2: But to be honest with. 681 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: You, you're con persuaded me a bit, don't I'm telling 682 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: so Ship, that's the first. 683 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 2: Time we fought. You was at me on that. And 684 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 2: then I just remember we would be in the back 685 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 2: of the bench. We always have these crazy debates. So 686 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 2: that's the first person that really told him how cold 687 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 2: Luca was. That's effect I give it. So like when 688 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 2: we sitting behind the bench, like Luca kind of going 689 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 2: through like his first half, like things like Bro, I 690 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 2: don't know jee, this man kind. 691 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 3: Of like it's a fire as story. 692 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 2: But you're like, man, this man kind of like lazy, 693 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 2: like he's just not doing nothing for me. He whined. 694 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 2: And I'm like, Bro, that's like you don't run up 695 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 2: the court. I'm like, bro, look at him. He the man. 696 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 2: I'm like Luca him, he's not worried about no regular 697 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 2: season game in fact, So then we keep going, said Bro, 698 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 2: you sure he good? I said, Bro, he gonna turn 699 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 2: it on. He's really him. So like where were we 700 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 2: We're up ten or twelve. He's in Dallas. So we 701 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 2: in Dallas and it's like Bro, JB and j T 702 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 2: getting rid of us. Man, I said, Bro, I'm telling you, 703 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 2: like it might not look good now, but in clutch, 704 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 2: if they get close, we're not gonna win, he said. 705 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 2: I said, Bro. I said, I'm just saying, the game 706 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 2: get close, we're not gonna win. So, like the game 707 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 2: start creeping down. So the more and more he at 708 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 2: me and I'm like. 709 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 3: Like you, he's a coach. 710 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 4: I'm a player and they weren't listening to. 711 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,359 Speaker 3: That's how crazy this that season was. 712 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: I'm sitting in the crowd with him, like down with 713 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,240 Speaker 1: the players. It's COVID. So I'm sitting by him. There's 714 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 1: just kick. 715 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 2: The kicking the ship like everything. So I'm senter. I said, bro, 716 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 2: if you get closer, like we're not gonna win. Like 717 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 2: I'm telling you. He's like that. Bro, He's just like that, 718 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 2: like he's just it. So it get closer, they call 719 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 2: the time out and like I think they're down like two, 720 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 2: So like Jeff like get it, like bro, like ain't 721 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 2: no way. I'm like, bro, I'm telling you, And he 722 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 2: like you did. 723 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 3: I called about to do that that step back he 724 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 3: hit the game winner. 725 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 2: And literally bro, and like while we watching it, Jeff watching, 726 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 2: I'm back there like Dickie and watch watch. 727 00:34:58,800 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 4: Like that. 728 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,280 Speaker 2: Literally he learned about Luca dont. 729 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: Hit the shot, looked at him, he's I told you 730 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:06,720 Speaker 1: we worked for the Celtics. 731 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 2: I told you. 732 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 1: I told you. I'm like, damn, we celebrated ship. 733 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 3: Look ship. 734 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 4: I was like, j T, that's some bullship, man, We're 735 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 4: gonna be up. I quit after this ship anyway kind 736 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,319 Speaker 4: of knew. I'm like, man like, just be worried about him. 737 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 2: But I thought that was a dope day because at 738 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,720 Speaker 2: the end of that's the first time that youbody ever listening. 739 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:32,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, like April, I was like, years cold. What made 740 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: it so funny? J T, that's a shower. I got 741 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 1: we Go. That's why I love et we Go. There 742 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 1: he was like, Luca better than me. 743 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 3: He was like, damn near. 744 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 2: I was like what. 745 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 3: I was like, Nah, hell no, j He was like, Bro, 746 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:51,319 Speaker 3: he's my favorite player. That's a yo et crazy bro 747 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:52,240 Speaker 3: favorite player. 748 00:35:52,320 --> 00:36:02,839 Speaker 2: My daughter man, Luca was she did bro? I said, Bro, dude, 749 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 2: that's my favorite player. I'm like, man, like, you got 750 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 2: to meet Luca. Like now that you go to the store, 751 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 2: you like I saw uncle Jason on somebody. Yeah, that's 752 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:20,799 Speaker 2: but you got to meet remember that you got but 753 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 2: funny ship like Jason, that's one of my favorite players. Fast. 754 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 1: I gotta ask how I feel to see them. Know 755 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,319 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, be Victorias, y'all know what I'm saying. 756 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 1: Y'all saw them early on, putting in the hard work 757 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 1: for them to win, and y'all to know them for real? 758 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 3: For how did that feel to see them cross one? 759 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:34,359 Speaker 4: Man? 760 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 2: I thought it was I thought it was dope. 761 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 4: Man. 762 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 2: You know what Tatum, Bro, he's such a good dude. 763 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 2: So when you sit there like like when you talk 764 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,800 Speaker 2: to me, listen when I was young, Bro, I wann't listening. 765 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,320 Speaker 2: Ship for real, So like when you talk to me, 766 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 2: really take advice, Like, Bro, you a good kid. But 767 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 2: when when when he tasks back in and like you know, 768 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 2: you talk to him like you really want people like 769 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:56,880 Speaker 2: that to win? You know what I'm saying. Even when 770 00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 2: you sit there and you build brotherhood like Jack my 771 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 2: fault Jeff, Jeff won the championship and he facetimed us 772 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,800 Speaker 2: from the locking. Yeah, when you sit down, it's like 773 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 2: when you look at Club five twenty and everything, Like, Bro, 774 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,719 Speaker 2: I be turned up for y'all because anybody brother, it 775 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,919 Speaker 2: is dope to see you know, good people winning. 776 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 3: Sure you feel about you. That's why our group chat. 777 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:17,879 Speaker 1: When we be talking, I'd be just having a bob, 778 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 1: but I'll be telling him some of the stuff we 779 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 1: talking about, just not everything, but some of the stuff 780 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:22,879 Speaker 1: that we'd be like laughing. 781 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:23,360 Speaker 2: At, joking about. 782 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,879 Speaker 1: But like j T, like you said, see him win 783 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 1: and know how much like how bad he wanted to win. 784 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 2: We was like yeah, but me and. 785 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 3: E TV like, hey, man, what he doing? 786 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:32,239 Speaker 2: Man? 787 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 3: Like we was watching the finals like man, he birst 788 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:35,799 Speaker 3: started playing because you. 789 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:36,879 Speaker 2: Know I'm betting, Like. 790 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like j T for real, Man, is he 791 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 3: gonna make? He need some free thrones? 792 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 2: Know you gonna how seriously when we FaceTime, you know 793 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 2: it's I'm like. 794 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 4: Bro, you see it when my man trophy away, I'm like, 795 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:55,880 Speaker 4: how we feel? How we feel you knowing like what 796 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,319 Speaker 4: you think? Literally he said he not even be pick 797 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 4: what were doing? 798 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 2: Man? Was come on, that's my fault of you with 799 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 2: your wifey. I called man late but like you you 800 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 2: see this right saying, I'm like, man, this nigga got 801 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:11,720 Speaker 2: I gotta talk to somebody. 802 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 3: Said he's not MVP. 803 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 2: What we doing? 804 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 1: Said? 805 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 3: I don't know, I said, Jaylen played glease, I'm not 806 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:16,840 Speaker 3: hearing that. 807 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 2: I said. It's like, so what that means for our legacy? 808 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:28,879 Speaker 2: This is all because when you think about that run, 809 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 2: which is crazy. We talked about like you look at 810 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 2: Jordan ninety two, he had that crazy run of a 811 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 2: championship MVP whopped the damn Like maybe Brian did it 812 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 2: once or whatever, but like when you thought about it, 813 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 2: how many times is it perfectly set up for somebody 814 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 2: to win a championship auto Olympics and when it's coming 815 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 2: to the changing of like the tight and yeah it was. 816 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,239 Speaker 2: It was really set in prime. Even if you think 817 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 2: about like the Sports Center, like Sports Illustrated article or 818 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,760 Speaker 2: like shit, he dropped his Jordan three during the Olympics, 819 00:38:59,440 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? 820 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,279 Speaker 3: I like it just seems like that's why I was 821 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 3: so mad about the Olympics. 822 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like supposed to be a changing of 823 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 1: the guard, and I just felt like it was supposed 824 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 1: to be him because it was all set up, even 825 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 1: though it might be in AE. 826 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 3: I don't know who it was really. 827 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 4: But like this what made me so mad that never 828 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 4: happened to anybody else. 829 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 2: Bro, you understand, I don't give a damn what you're 830 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,800 Speaker 2: talking about. I'm the star player. I know him, Melity, 831 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 2: But like Derek White, Drew, y'all better say, y'all ain't 832 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 2: playing get into because the world ain't right. 833 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:32,239 Speaker 3: That's the fact. 834 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 2: The world already fucked up. 835 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 1: It's like they tried to dim his light on purpose 836 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 1: and they're just like, oh, he's taking it this striw 837 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:37,839 Speaker 1: he's such a good one. 838 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 3: No, he crashed out. 839 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, Bro, that's the first time I felt like they 840 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 2: went crazy on the ricelin. Let's target it, Bro, if 841 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 2: you think about it, I felt like it was something 842 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:52,759 Speaker 2: deeper balls and just like rotation. Now you say, I 843 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 2: can't hop like give me eleven minutes. 844 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, he was supposed to be in the rotation. But 845 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 4: like Bro said, Jeff made a great point like maybe 846 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:02,879 Speaker 4: he come back, like he's. 847 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:03,359 Speaker 3: Gonna come back. 848 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 2: Steve Steve, Steve, he quit before they fired him. They 849 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:10,840 Speaker 2: said this was this was his last. 850 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 1: He knew last I was man when he shout up 851 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 1: to the lookings like Nigga, I saw what you did 852 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,759 Speaker 1: last sum with this team. They was like, you gotta go, 853 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,800 Speaker 1: but we need j T for the Great Hill on 854 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 1: his way out too. He keeps troubling let Great Hill too. 855 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:25,399 Speaker 4: Yeah. 856 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:29,799 Speaker 2: Because the fact shot man, y'all know this, Nigga man 857 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 2: Haler Burden DJ DJ like the fact like, for instance, 858 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:41,239 Speaker 2: they didn't have like dang mm hmmm, I'm team us 859 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,319 Speaker 2: a shot out to Haller Burdon. But like then they 860 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,800 Speaker 2: have Kyrie, like come on, my g like two little 861 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 2: cold dudes and then let the killers be like I 862 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 2: don't know, Like that was crazy, bro. 863 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 1: And when he said we might considering Jailer Brown for 864 00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 1: between twenty years, I said, he's out of. 865 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:02,920 Speaker 2: Old, out the pot. Here's true, he's definitely trying. It's 866 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:04,839 Speaker 2: like thirty one, like by time to get today age, 867 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,799 Speaker 2: it's gonna be super rich. Like, Bro, I don't start 868 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:11,319 Speaker 2: my own country. I told you. 869 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 3: Contry hop it up here. I'm playing for so then 870 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 3: next twenty eight reversible Lou. 871 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 2: I laughed, you Bro, I laugh you, Bro. I lad me, 872 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:35,319 Speaker 2: look who's the best player you ever played with? Mm hmm, Bro, 873 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 2: it's a it's so different. I think pound for pound, 874 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,680 Speaker 2: damn name was cold but Isaiah Thomas. Because when you 875 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,840 Speaker 2: break it down, bro, niggas, you would be like in 876 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,319 Speaker 2: practice and you see Brad talking to him and he'd 877 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 2: be looking up you, like, Bro, this is our best 878 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,360 Speaker 2: player for this, you know what I mean? Like you 879 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:56,120 Speaker 2: the shortest doing the huddle heat like five eight, this 880 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,880 Speaker 2: is the lead dog. But like literally, Bro, every the 881 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:00,920 Speaker 2: stuff I saw him doing ain't a night out like 882 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,719 Speaker 2: how talented he was. But one thing that occurred that 883 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:06,920 Speaker 2: I think that. I always said, like that little fucker 884 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,960 Speaker 2: always worked, like I'm talking about like work work, work, 885 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,120 Speaker 2: like show up at the gym seven to eight, like 886 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,799 Speaker 2: even now, like still working. And I always thought like, uh, 887 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 2: how you hoop? But like the fire in his eyes 888 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,359 Speaker 2: or something like I had never really seen. I thought 889 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,920 Speaker 2: PG was pretty cold to be like like when we 890 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,319 Speaker 2: were young, like he was, like he's still cold, don't 891 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,759 Speaker 2: get it twisted. But the stuff he did with Indy 892 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,720 Speaker 2: when I played with him for a couple of months. Pause. 893 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 2: Uh he was twenty two years old dropping forty in 894 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 2: the old school playoffs. Yeah yeah that like oh, like 895 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,960 Speaker 2: like why they sports were still one hundred type shit? 896 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 2: And then uh, man, Drew Howday was cold cold Drew 897 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:49,320 Speaker 2: Howdy was like, to be honest with you, because everybody 898 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:54,080 Speaker 2: just mentioned like head the head Drew did they like? 899 00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 2: I think Drew was probably like the best I ever 900 00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:57,080 Speaker 2: played with. 901 00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, now yeah, man, you talk, you talk bunch a 902 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 1: couple of coffee with the pacers. 903 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,280 Speaker 3: Man, what happened? 904 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:04,880 Speaker 2: What was that team? Like? 905 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 3: I killed them? 906 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:11,880 Speaker 2: You was coach? You don't know what happened? This is 907 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,840 Speaker 2: what people be forgetting too. I don't know. I just 908 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 2: got there late, so like niggas wildly. But I think 909 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,520 Speaker 2: one thing that happened you got to understand too, Like 910 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,680 Speaker 2: Jeff correct me if I'm wrong. Before All Star, dudes 911 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:28,360 Speaker 2: go super hard falls. Once All Star is over and 912 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,319 Speaker 2: dudes kind of get their accolade, they kind of turn 913 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,040 Speaker 2: off a bit. So like when we were sitting there, 914 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 2: we were already kind of taking l's, we were taking adjustments. 915 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,759 Speaker 2: But then I think what came down to us, like 916 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:44,719 Speaker 2: with team and competitiveness when you bring me in, like, 917 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,840 Speaker 2: of course ears are going to perk up. Like you 918 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:52,840 Speaker 2: got two dudes trying to sign contracts. Lance Stevenson was 919 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,759 Speaker 2: ahead of me. You had Paul, George, George Hill. Like 920 00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 2: arguably you can sit there and be like George would 921 00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,279 Speaker 2: be like, damn, he might take my spot. This might 922 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,160 Speaker 2: be like he might take my spot and such just such, 923 00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,520 Speaker 2: and who after Ben and I come in. You know 924 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:09,160 Speaker 2: my personality like talking ship ornery like you know what 925 00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,680 Speaker 2: I mean, like joking, like poking the bear, like I 926 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,480 Speaker 2: just you know what I'm saying, just know what's you know, 927 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,520 Speaker 2: know what's going on, but having fun with it. And 928 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,840 Speaker 2: I think aside from that, I think the chemistry is 929 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:22,719 Speaker 2: one thing but like, bro, we weren't good enough to 930 00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 2: beat the heat nigga, Like when people are asking that 931 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,480 Speaker 2: dumb ass question and we cut rotations, So like, y'all 932 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,480 Speaker 2: gotta shout out Roy Hibbert because I think he was 933 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:38,760 Speaker 2: unbelievable in George Hill too, Dope dudes, Roy was averaging 934 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,280 Speaker 2: six and six bro, and shout out to like Frank 935 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,480 Speaker 2: Vogel because I wasn't mad. I'm like, yo, roll with 936 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:48,400 Speaker 2: your killers, but like he's killing us like ship but 937 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,799 Speaker 2: like and this is not Roy Hibbert like slander because 938 00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,759 Speaker 2: Roy Hibbert don't get enough credit for what he's done. 939 00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:00,759 Speaker 3: Yeah that verticality, bro, he's a real own star trying 940 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:01,239 Speaker 3: to clown them. 941 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,560 Speaker 2: But he wasn't like nothing. You know, George Hill, I 942 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,719 Speaker 2: think ye had something like when we were playing our 943 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 2: main go to guys, I don't think we had enough 944 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,359 Speaker 2: firepower when we cut the rotation down the second mm hmm. 945 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:16,000 Speaker 2: You're like, come on, brother, you had me like yeah, 946 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,320 Speaker 2: me on a like not me now, Like it was 947 00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:23,480 Speaker 2: twenty fourteen, y'alls all right, so it was nice CJ. Watson, 948 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,400 Speaker 2: Like you had Louis Skola that was still like ramone. 949 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,400 Speaker 2: Yeah he was yeah, yeah he was cutting like rotations. 950 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,560 Speaker 2: I just think you're not taking out Broun and all 951 00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,840 Speaker 2: without you know, having a new scheme. But Bro, we 952 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,719 Speaker 2: weren't being the heatles Bro and I just I thought 953 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,680 Speaker 2: that was like a great starting five. But everybody has 954 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,600 Speaker 2: to perform play at a high level. And we only 955 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,040 Speaker 2: had like three people playing at the high level. And 956 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,239 Speaker 2: you can't and they're three was who Yeah, And then 957 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,120 Speaker 2: when you break it down like after that, you know 958 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,520 Speaker 2: me and Lance y'all probably we had talked about this. 959 00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:56,920 Speaker 2: Me and Lance got into it. And what was so 960 00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 2: funny with that was, uh, me and Lance hung out 961 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:05,799 Speaker 2: every day at each other. Yeah, we say we sat 962 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,880 Speaker 2: next to each other on the plane, like me and 963 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,880 Speaker 2: him would go out together, like together. And I remember 964 00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:16,640 Speaker 2: we're going through like a walkthrough and just like young dudes, 965 00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:20,240 Speaker 2: you can instigate some ship Andrew bite him is sitting 966 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:26,400 Speaker 2: on the sideline. Yes, yes, Andrew bidam sitting on the sideline. 967 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:30,200 Speaker 2: And I guess we like going through walkthrough. So me 968 00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,360 Speaker 2: and Lance are kind of like playing around and like 969 00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,239 Speaker 2: I think something happened when he's trying to go for 970 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,279 Speaker 2: real and like I think I might have stopped him, 971 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,319 Speaker 2: and like I think coach yelled, there's something weird. It's 972 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:45,560 Speaker 2: like a weird moment. So then like Andrew's like, ooh, 973 00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,239 Speaker 2: he stopped at like and Lance like, man, come on, 974 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,919 Speaker 2: Burtis ain't got the type of heart I got little 975 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,200 Speaker 2: but Lance, if you know, it's personality, that's how it's 976 00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,160 Speaker 2: just how you talk to New York. And like, you know, 977 00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,800 Speaker 2: I didn't really kind of take it like oh d 978 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:01,640 Speaker 2: because like at the same time, it's like, come on, brother, 979 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,080 Speaker 2: I think it's bugging. This is but you know what 980 00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,640 Speaker 2: I mean, like you're bugging. So like we go through 981 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:09,160 Speaker 2: it again, and uh, I think I did the same 982 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,080 Speaker 2: thing again, kind of like slapped his stop through whatever. 983 00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:14,279 Speaker 2: And we kind of like a little tussling a little bit, 984 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,080 Speaker 2: and I think I kind of like slapped something again. 985 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,520 Speaker 2: So when I turn around, he's like, don't do that 986 00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,200 Speaker 2: shit no more. So like when he put his finger 987 00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:27,440 Speaker 2: in my face, swipe, swipe, we grab each other's throat scratch, men, 988 00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,560 Speaker 2: I got like duper scratch and I like little scratch, 989 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,400 Speaker 2: like duper scratch. Yeah. So then we get off the 990 00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,200 Speaker 2: court and then uh it got broken up or whatever, 991 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,400 Speaker 2: and then uh shit, that was it. That literally was 992 00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,480 Speaker 2: like the whole moment of the playoffs and was used 993 00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,680 Speaker 2: and so like that's what ruined us, and it's like 994 00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:48,520 Speaker 2: now we was fired. Lance was like really like that 995 00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,120 Speaker 2: was my man's like you know, as little kids when 996 00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,160 Speaker 2: you're younger, when you fight over a box of cereal, 997 00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:57,320 Speaker 2: like off the principality of it. And I thought that 998 00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,080 Speaker 2: was pretty much it. And just like a little bit 999 00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:00,600 Speaker 2: of shout out to Indiana up in like a fan 1000 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:05,560 Speaker 2: base that wasn't real estate. Lord Jesus, am I wrong 1001 00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:06,000 Speaker 2: for saying that? 1002 00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,600 Speaker 1: Is that the end was not right at that time 1003 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,640 Speaker 1: because Larry kept drafting white people. So I didn't really care. 1004 00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,040 Speaker 1: We needed we needed to reto he got plumbly. I 1005 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:16,640 Speaker 1: was all right, I'm calling these niggas right now. 1006 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:20,319 Speaker 2: How we like local fans? How hard pause? How hard 1007 00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,600 Speaker 2: did we jagged a considering? Because you'll probably really thought 1008 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,320 Speaker 2: we had a chance to win. Y'all was supposed to 1009 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:29,080 Speaker 2: lose to US. I wasn't. 1010 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,839 Speaker 3: We was up gate we y'all was in Atlanta game 1011 00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:34,880 Speaker 3: six down three two? 1012 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:36,040 Speaker 2: Oh you all right? 1013 00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:36,359 Speaker 4: Bro? 1014 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:37,640 Speaker 2: Who got hot that game? 1015 00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:38,360 Speaker 1: For? 1016 00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,480 Speaker 3: David was hitting it off the backboard. 1017 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:45,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, but the one big foreign dude, Yeah, that's the 1018 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,600 Speaker 2: reasoner version of Ivan Johnson. 1019 00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,319 Speaker 1: That's why Peril could play. I mean, Hibbert couldn't play 1020 00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,359 Speaker 1: no more. We put Peril three shooting on them three. 1021 00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,040 Speaker 2: But what y'all thing? Y'all thought he was gonna win 1022 00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,320 Speaker 2: the chip that year? But what did y'all keep it 1023 00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,960 Speaker 2: real with you? Like man having old bitch ass and 1024 00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:05,919 Speaker 2: came out here and fucked up the team like because 1025 00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,080 Speaker 2: literally that's all I ever heard after that, Like bro, 1026 00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,719 Speaker 2: I literally shot four times a game at average seven. 1027 00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:12,719 Speaker 3: We made it so funny. It was being around and 1028 00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:13,600 Speaker 3: knowing some of the tape. 1029 00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:15,920 Speaker 1: You know, you weren't there was problem you fucking and 1030 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,520 Speaker 1: I knew that, But they just blamed you because they 1031 00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:19,120 Speaker 1: treated Danny. 1032 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,200 Speaker 3: That's that's the only thing. You just got slack because 1033 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:21,600 Speaker 3: they tried. 1034 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,759 Speaker 2: That and Danny and Danny average six, I average seven. 1035 00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:26,160 Speaker 2: You want to know what made me so mad? I 1036 00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,600 Speaker 2: shot fifty percent from the three with the pacers. I 1037 00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:32,319 Speaker 2: ain't never done that, damn. Like so when I'm sitting here, 1038 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,560 Speaker 2: I'm like, I hate this bottom, Like you know what 1039 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:43,319 Speaker 2: I mean, use his high hand, use this book. That's 1040 00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,560 Speaker 2: the only thing I'm showing. Fifty percent They got so 1041 00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,239 Speaker 2: after that, I never shot at three again, and it 1042 00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,520 Speaker 2: was just a bad fit. That's a bad fit. But 1043 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:53,279 Speaker 2: like that time, it hit me with a doozy like 1044 00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:54,680 Speaker 2: I said, I was supposed to have an eight point 1045 00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:58,799 Speaker 2: seven million dollars signing bonus. Damn my dumb ass trying 1046 00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,040 Speaker 2: to be probably for like, man, this team, y'all keep 1047 00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:06,120 Speaker 2: the playoff money. So I gave up a quarter million, man, hey, 1048 00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,080 Speaker 2: find me a new team, like all right, you mis 1049 00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:14,359 Speaker 2: qualifying bonus. And then in sordanter Ferrari that same week. 1050 00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:24,239 Speaker 2: But you know somebody has like I guess I didn't 1051 00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:28,920 Speaker 2: comprehend how serious it was obvious. Yeah, So then that 1052 00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,719 Speaker 2: free agency comes out in like July first, like my 1053 00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:35,040 Speaker 2: phone ain't ring. Then we get always fighting ship like 1054 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,920 Speaker 2: August mitched cup Check called me and it's like, what 1055 00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:42,600 Speaker 2: do you do. I'm like, I guess I dribble shoot 1056 00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:47,239 Speaker 2: like you know, that's what Kobe do. I'm kind of 1057 00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:52,759 Speaker 2: like Kobe, like, don't call me and ask me what 1058 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,080 Speaker 2: I did. And I'm like, with all due respect, man, 1059 00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:57,400 Speaker 2: like I'm not saying on the best, but like you 1060 00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,839 Speaker 2: all didn't lost y'all, like owen forever the past three years, 1061 00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:04,120 Speaker 2: not average like twenty five, like to offer me a quarter, 1062 00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,880 Speaker 2: I'll get it off the block and type shit like 1063 00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,440 Speaker 2: but be and honestly I was not. I'm never like that, 1064 00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,719 Speaker 2: so don't get At the same time, Familion, I'm like, bro, like, 1065 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,080 Speaker 2: we'll get off the bike. Seriously, like you might as 1066 00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,200 Speaker 2: well throw my life away and get it off the block. 1067 00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,520 Speaker 2: And that's not being like, that's ignorantly speaking. That's what 1068 00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:29,960 Speaker 2: I thought at the time. And I'm luckily shout out 1069 00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,520 Speaker 2: to Brad Stevens. He's like, bro, I can't let people 1070 00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:37,360 Speaker 2: to you like that. I don't know what change you found. 1071 00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:38,920 Speaker 2: But he gave me a little bit of money and 1072 00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:42,160 Speaker 2: help me, help me and like, no joke, help me 1073 00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,000 Speaker 2: get my career back. Because even when I left that 1074 00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,160 Speaker 2: situation with the Pacers, you got to think I went 1075 00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,960 Speaker 2: from like the six series of like I was supposed 1076 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:50,840 Speaker 2: to be like a megastar and then I wasn't. And 1077 00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,560 Speaker 2: then ship just hit the ground, and you know, you 1078 00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,120 Speaker 2: go to a real point where Jeff, you relate, are 1079 00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,239 Speaker 2: you going overseas or you're going to play and stay 1080 00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:01,640 Speaker 2: and fight? So that was, uh, that's real as ship. 1081 00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,040 Speaker 2: Like we laugh about it, but you know, I joke 1082 00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,640 Speaker 2: about it but it was some real stuff and you know, 1083 00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:08,879 Speaker 2: obviously it didn't stay dark forever. 1084 00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,960 Speaker 1: Plays in the playoffs when you was in Boston. Yeah, 1085 00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,640 Speaker 1: I have a squad, but y'all talk the most shit. 1086 00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:22,440 Speaker 1: I said, they put Jay Crowder. All these safety. 1087 00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,120 Speaker 2: We talked the most. Ship were all mid except from 1088 00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:32,360 Speaker 2: one dude bro like one person get hot. Like everything 1089 00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,600 Speaker 2: I te average thirty. I eat my little ten. And 1090 00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:37,719 Speaker 2: then every blue moon when I go get seventeen, and 1091 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:41,520 Speaker 2: you're gonna hear about it twenty every game I have seventeen. Yeah, 1092 00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:42,080 Speaker 2: little nigga. 1093 00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,640 Speaker 3: Everybody had Avery Bradley talk. He never even talked. 1094 00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:48,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, but like that was like that was and if 1095 00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:50,520 Speaker 2: you think about it, it's like the real first time 1096 00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:52,719 Speaker 2: they'll tell you I really jumped out my shell for real, 1097 00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:54,880 Speaker 2: because like around that time, I was kind of like 1098 00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:58,640 Speaker 2: I was still on the portrait guards to like marketing 1099 00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:02,080 Speaker 2: wise Brandon, So like, you know, that was the real 1100 00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,359 Speaker 2: time I was like, Man, I'm just gonna be wan, 1101 00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,440 Speaker 2: gonna be forget, like trying to be perfect. It's like 1102 00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:11,319 Speaker 2: that shit ain't worked, and legit, ship we I really 1103 00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:16,120 Speaker 2: jumped off the porch and Sundays Man Sundays Tuesdays Wednesdays 1104 00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:20,400 Speaker 2: before or after that as a hobby, you know, but 1105 00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:22,319 Speaker 2: like not jump off the porch and on weird stuff. 1106 00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,520 Speaker 2: But it's like that comrader in that team ship. It 1107 00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,600 Speaker 2: was like, Bro, I realized it took more and not 1108 00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:28,960 Speaker 2: saying like partying, but it took more to really like 1109 00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:32,480 Speaker 2: build relationships and what really makes a great team and 1110 00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:36,600 Speaker 2: atmosphere like ship. We were we were seventh in the East, Bro, 1111 00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,800 Speaker 2: but you couldn't tell us like Tom Brady was walking 1112 00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,080 Speaker 2: the city and we swore we had the streets on wine, 1113 00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,840 Speaker 2: you know, like we go to clubs, I'd be like 1114 00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:48,000 Speaker 2: I would be on a microphone shining out niggas. That's 1115 00:53:48,000 --> 00:54:02,600 Speaker 2: getting ten minutes again, Jordan, We really, bro, We had 1116 00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,000 Speaker 2: it cracking. Did won every game? 1117 00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:05,279 Speaker 4: Y'all. 1118 00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:09,120 Speaker 2: Ain't want to play some things four Thanksgiving, All Star, 1119 00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,920 Speaker 2: second Nights of back to be like that's the only 1120 00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:13,920 Speaker 2: reason why we got the forty five wins. Was like 1121 00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,320 Speaker 2: a twenty win talent. We just tried. 1122 00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:21,120 Speaker 1: By used to. I ain't go like, y'all, did you know, 1123 00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:22,919 Speaker 1: it's like damn these niggas is good? 1124 00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:26,440 Speaker 2: Bro. I t was so different, Bro, different, Bro. When 1125 00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,759 Speaker 2: you think he was about like, where do you rank him? 1126 00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:30,879 Speaker 2: Where do you like? At that time? 1127 00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,080 Speaker 3: He was the toughest cover for me, like. 1128 00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,719 Speaker 2: With Brad Stevens offense, So buck bro, he was. 1129 00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,919 Speaker 1: The toughest bro. Everything ran through him. But he didn't 1130 00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,239 Speaker 1: have a ball the whole time, like y'all used to 1131 00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:44,680 Speaker 1: run that little floor Where were you called? 1132 00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:45,280 Speaker 3: Four snap? 1133 00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,759 Speaker 2: I think? And Kelly have to be this somebody and 1134 00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:51,440 Speaker 2: you bro Kelly Olennitt was throwing that motherfucking shalt Well. 1135 00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:53,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, this ship is wow. He was nice, 1136 00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,480 Speaker 1: he t I mean, I was cold, Bro. I ain't 1137 00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,879 Speaker 1: gonna lie. He was a tough cover and he got 1138 00:54:59,000 --> 00:54:59,919 Speaker 1: fouled so much. 1139 00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:04,000 Speaker 2: Hell yeah yeah, went to the line like a motherfucker 1140 00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,160 Speaker 2: was he? What about with d Rose? 1141 00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:10,120 Speaker 1: Oh no, d Rose, Like I'm talking about that tom 1142 00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,279 Speaker 1: My t was a tough color all timas d Rose. 1143 00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:12,400 Speaker 2: Bro. 1144 00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:15,680 Speaker 1: Nothing you can do, Bro. You could bag all the 1145 00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:18,440 Speaker 1: way up in the paint. You could sit on the dots. 1146 00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:18,560 Speaker 4: Bro. 1147 00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:20,160 Speaker 3: He will run at you, just jump over you. 1148 00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:21,200 Speaker 2: You what the fuck? 1149 00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:24,279 Speaker 1: So then if you get close, he run right by you. 1150 00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,960 Speaker 1: You get the medium he crossed you get. But I'm like, Bro, 1151 00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,239 Speaker 1: I can't guard this food man. That's why I tell you, 1152 00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,359 Speaker 1: Harry hot Light, if you go look, will he run 1153 00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:34,440 Speaker 1: that MVP year? Probably on fifty of them? 1154 00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:37,680 Speaker 2: Bro, like different color jurneys that motherfucking cap. 1155 00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:39,839 Speaker 4: Yo. 1156 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:45,800 Speaker 2: What was it like? Uh? Was playing with Joe Johnson's 1157 00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:48,160 Speaker 2: cold man? 1158 00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:52,560 Speaker 1: He probably, I tell everybody, probably the most skilled player 1159 00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:57,360 Speaker 1: I played with because his handle, he could shoot, float 1160 00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,719 Speaker 1: or post up. He ain't really had no like no 1161 00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,360 Speaker 1: on his game. He could play defense. Only thing he 1162 00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,759 Speaker 1: couldn't do. He won the athletic but he could score 1163 00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:06,200 Speaker 1: with the best of them. He was really liked that. 1164 00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:08,239 Speaker 1: And what was your favorite era? 1165 00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:08,760 Speaker 3: Fatigue? 1166 00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:10,120 Speaker 2: Right over? 1167 00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:11,920 Speaker 3: I don't get this nigga. 1168 00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:16,120 Speaker 2: Because it's dope the here now like as friends that 1169 00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,279 Speaker 2: went on the journey with him, like growing up, it's 1170 00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:20,279 Speaker 2: like ship y'all met, and like how long you know 1171 00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:20,680 Speaker 2: each other? 1172 00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:21,520 Speaker 3: Niggas? 1173 00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:23,479 Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. 1174 00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:27,880 Speaker 4: You think about really well, this nigga probably win't right 1175 00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:31,160 Speaker 4: before he made the All Star and through on, like 1176 00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:34,200 Speaker 4: right that year before that's when I really start going 1177 00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:35,520 Speaker 4: to the A heavily. 1178 00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was. He was a different player for sure 1179 00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:39,040 Speaker 2: to me. 1180 00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:42,320 Speaker 3: To me, I probably said the first two years in 1181 00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,560 Speaker 3: Minnesota for sure, wet. 1182 00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:50,120 Speaker 2: When did y'all start hearing the streets and Indie going 1183 00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,080 Speaker 2: back to the locals and being like, Yo, my nigga, 1184 00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:54,279 Speaker 2: my nigga, Jeff better than Mike Conley because I know 1185 00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:54,640 Speaker 2: that was. 1186 00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,120 Speaker 4: Because that had to be, like y'all, did y'all ever 1187 00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:00,800 Speaker 4: go back like you wouldn't really like, let's talk about it. 1188 00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,200 Speaker 3: It was really e j or nothing like even as 1189 00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,880 Speaker 3: good as Mike was, j was got even even. 1190 00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:09,960 Speaker 2: What he did to Derrick Rose and high school was crazy. 1191 00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:12,239 Speaker 1: He did the Jordan kids. Bro, that's what markets is 1192 00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,319 Speaker 1: on that Bro's order story. 1193 00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:17,360 Speaker 2: Bogus. They bogus because he wasn't supposed to be up 1194 00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:18,760 Speaker 2: in there and they knew that that was like that 1195 00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:22,600 Speaker 2: was our like, Bro, it was like the nineteenth best 1196 00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:25,720 Speaker 2: team on Earth and they got an ESPN game. But 1197 00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,640 Speaker 2: that was just that was it was. You would have 1198 00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:32,240 Speaker 2: been cool, but he already played ranked players. Yeah, like 1199 00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:37,240 Speaker 2: Jordan's coming to the building, Gordon, it was bigger than 1200 00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:39,600 Speaker 2: what you think you think, so it was a whole 1201 00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:48,240 Speaker 2: production he put on. But like, Bro, you wasn't. It 1202 00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:58,680 Speaker 2: wasn't time. It was bigger that I actually like that. 1203 00:57:58,880 --> 00:57:59,840 Speaker 2: That was some real talk. 1204 00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:03,920 Speaker 4: It was bigger than For sure, that was bigger because 1205 00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:07,919 Speaker 4: we knew Jordan's kids was cool, but I forgot his name, 1206 00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:10,320 Speaker 4: the other Jordan, not the fry one, the oldest one. 1207 00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:14,120 Speaker 4: He had an offer from Jeff Jordan. Jeffy was but 1208 00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:16,720 Speaker 4: they was both Illinois kids at the time. Yeah, so 1209 00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:22,000 Speaker 4: that was ADU. So what's so funny is I get 1210 00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:27,120 Speaker 4: up aired for that? Eric Gordon was, Uh, he was 1211 00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:31,560 Speaker 4: committed to Illinois. So during that time I was supposed 1212 00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,200 Speaker 4: to commit and de Rose was supposed to commit. 1213 00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:37,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I remember sitting there and being like, all right, bro, 1214 00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:39,960 Speaker 2: we might have pause have a three headed monster, but 1215 00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:42,760 Speaker 2: de Rose want to commit, and I'm telling them like, yo, 1216 00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:46,560 Speaker 2: I'll wait until Derek commits. But it just never happened. 1217 00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:48,400 Speaker 2: And I feel like that was like one of the 1218 00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:51,400 Speaker 2: real reasons pushed me to a house state too. H 1219 00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:54,840 Speaker 2: e Gordon started, Uh, he de committed. He took his 1220 00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:57,440 Speaker 2: ass on the Indiana, which was very very smart because 1221 00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:00,880 Speaker 2: that made no goddamn sense. And then uh shit, that 1222 00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,280 Speaker 2: was it. Man, y'all, Homie and Hoop, they're Devin doing this. 1223 00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:04,640 Speaker 2: Shout to do them out. 1224 00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:07,160 Speaker 4: Y'all have been cool though, get him on the pot 1225 00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:10,840 Speaker 4: y'all have been cool at all show that's my guy. 1226 00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:14,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, it looks like that for sure would have been. 1227 00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:17,680 Speaker 2: Crazy you d Rose, Eric Gordon, that would have been hard, Bro, 1228 00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:18,840 Speaker 2: I probably would have made it. 1229 00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:21,320 Speaker 4: You think y'all would have been better than Luther Head 1230 00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:24,200 Speaker 4: Darren Williams and uh what's my boy? 1231 00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:27,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I discriminated against people on the sticky Bro, so 1232 00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:30,440 Speaker 2: I'd be like, don't ask me, don't ask me ifout 1233 00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:32,880 Speaker 2: you one of those come saying I'm six seven. It's 1234 00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:34,720 Speaker 2: like when you sit there, I think like you a 1235 00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:40,040 Speaker 2: better career though, like like the Illinois up they rose 1236 00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:43,200 Speaker 2: went to the final four, like the championship game is damnself? 1237 00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:48,080 Speaker 2: Eric Gordon average twenty seven, like they was probably been 1238 00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:53,160 Speaker 2: on the bench for just serious, Bro, you would have played. 1239 00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:53,320 Speaker 1: Bro? 1240 00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:54,120 Speaker 3: You six seven? 1241 00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:54,280 Speaker 1: Bro? 1242 00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:57,240 Speaker 2: All you at the four? Bro, it's college. Thats my 1243 00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:02,080 Speaker 2: big ten. The ball the first for I don't want 1244 01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:04,640 Speaker 2: to start playing playing like a start. I'm playing like 1245 01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:11,120 Speaker 2: a bum. You're gonna get that shots, Bro stopped talking 1246 01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:13,480 Speaker 2: to me. I'm like, I got six shots. Man. My 1247 01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:17,480 Speaker 2: homie started the game shooting jumping my line. 1248 01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:26,960 Speaker 3: You ain't lied what's up? Ro Roll? I know you. 1249 01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:28,920 Speaker 2: I know, we got to get out of here. So 1250 01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:31,640 Speaker 2: but you get the big deal from Portland. 1251 01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:34,160 Speaker 1: After your good years in Boston, you do your thing, 1252 01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:35,840 Speaker 1: you come back, you bounce back. Now you get the 1253 01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:36,800 Speaker 1: big deal from Portland. 1254 01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:42,200 Speaker 2: What's that like, bro? Man? That was you don't like 1255 01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:45,680 Speaker 2: to get some money from That was the first time 1256 01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:47,920 Speaker 2: I really like, damn, you know what I mean? Like, 1257 01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:51,680 Speaker 2: so I remember going to sleep because you remember, I 1258 01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:53,720 Speaker 2: just told you two years before they did me dirty. 1259 01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:57,520 Speaker 2: So I'm like, no, I just know my my free 1260 01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:00,800 Speaker 2: agency finna be. It's gonna be. And so I remember 1261 01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:02,560 Speaker 2: I'm like waking. I talked to my agent the night 1262 01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:07,520 Speaker 2: before it starts paused, and I legit. He'said, you should 1263 01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:10,240 Speaker 2: be straight. We'll have some dope stuff going, like we're 1264 01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:13,560 Speaker 2: gonna start at like fifty. I'm like, oh, that's perfect, 1265 01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:15,960 Speaker 2: Like shit, I'll do fifty. And I just remember like 1266 01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:18,400 Speaker 2: going to sleep and waking up in the middle of 1267 01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:19,680 Speaker 2: the night and being like, bro, if they give me 1268 01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:22,240 Speaker 2: fifty million dollars, I'm gonna be mad than I'm a motherfucker. 1269 01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:23,640 Speaker 2: But you know what I mean, like in my head 1270 01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:25,880 Speaker 2: because like I had to make up for the last one. 1271 01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:29,640 Speaker 2: But I also say now just be grateful. So then 1272 01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:33,080 Speaker 2: like when I wake up, my agent calls me and it'say, yeah, 1273 01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:34,560 Speaker 2: I got a deal for you, and I'm like what 1274 01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:38,000 Speaker 2: is and he's like from Portland. I'm like, okay, I 1275 01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:41,120 Speaker 2: talked to dang right before that. It's like and I'm like, well, 1276 01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:43,360 Speaker 2: what is it. He's like, it's a four year deal 1277 01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:50,600 Speaker 2: for like seventy So I'm like seventeen and he's like no, 1278 01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:54,440 Speaker 2: like seventy and I'm like, oh my god, like you know. 1279 01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:58,680 Speaker 2: So then I call my mom and I'm like, yo, Mom, 1280 01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:01,240 Speaker 2: I'm gonna sign the Portland and I'm gonna get like, 1281 01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:04,280 Speaker 2: I'm gonna sign in Portland for four years seventy millions. 1282 01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:06,680 Speaker 2: She's like seventeen. I'm like no, like seven and a 1283 01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:09,720 Speaker 2: d and my friend and like my mom was like 1284 01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:15,560 Speaker 2: that's crazy. She's like that was crazy. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, 1285 01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:19,360 Speaker 2: And she's like, oh my god, and I'm like yeah, 1286 01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:21,200 Speaker 2: So like I'm next. I was supposed to go to 1287 01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:24,560 Speaker 2: Portland like the fifth so like I felt like lottery ticket, 1288 01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:30,760 Speaker 2: like I was trying not to die. So that's we're 1289 01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:32,840 Speaker 2: gonna get you up here. Due press conference like went 1290 01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:35,240 Speaker 2: like today they're like no. I'm like the fifth I'm 1291 01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:38,240 Speaker 2: like no, I can come Like we don't need to 1292 01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:40,000 Speaker 2: do no, I said, bro, I don't need none of 1293 01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:42,600 Speaker 2: that ship just like go get it, like let's get 1294 01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:45,480 Speaker 2: this deal and like call it to day. But I think, like, 1295 01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:48,760 Speaker 2: you know, one thing that occurred that was like pretty cool. 1296 01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:51,360 Speaker 2: Besides like the money factor was which was cool, it's 1297 01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:53,200 Speaker 2: going to the West. I had so much respect for 1298 01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:54,640 Speaker 2: the teams in the West because I've been in the 1299 01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:57,600 Speaker 2: East for so long. I just remember being like, damn, 1300 01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:00,920 Speaker 2: like this is definitely going to be tougher. But you know, 1301 01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:03,080 Speaker 2: as a team like go you know, I was able 1302 01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:05,120 Speaker 2: to go to Western Conference finals for the first time. 1303 01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:08,640 Speaker 2: We had two fifty years win seasons, and I thought, 1304 01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:11,600 Speaker 2: like shit, like we were able to adapt and do 1305 01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:13,760 Speaker 2: some dope stuff. Granted, I mean Dame did it his 1306 01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:17,160 Speaker 2: damn self, but I mean I was still enjoying myself 1307 01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:20,600 Speaker 2: and having fun. But I think that that part was 1308 01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:23,000 Speaker 2: just a unique time to try to you know and 1309 01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:25,560 Speaker 2: figure out, you know, new ways to play the game 1310 01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:28,040 Speaker 2: and open up your role. But at the same time, 1311 01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:30,840 Speaker 2: we had like, you know, the second best back corner NBA, 1312 01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:34,120 Speaker 2: and it was that was you know, that's a fun 1313 01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:36,400 Speaker 2: time to watch, fun time and be around. But uh, 1314 01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:39,000 Speaker 2: you know, I think personally I kind of saw the 1315 01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:42,959 Speaker 2: writing on the wall. I don't know about you, Jeff, 1316 01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:45,480 Speaker 2: but like, sometimes you just get tired of like like 1317 01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:48,200 Speaker 2: always adjusting, bro, you know what I mean. Like, and 1318 01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:50,440 Speaker 2: sometimes it wasn't bad, but at one point actually like 1319 01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:53,640 Speaker 2: not like I keep adjusting my role, adjusting my role 1320 01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:55,600 Speaker 2: to the point where it was like kind of like 1321 01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:58,680 Speaker 2: no and void, which wasn't like terrible, but it was 1322 01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:01,640 Speaker 2: also at the same time, like how else can I 1323 01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:04,000 Speaker 2: make an impact here unless you know what I mean, 1324 01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:06,320 Speaker 2: unless I'm able to play heavy or you know, get 1325 01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:08,440 Speaker 2: to that, you know, be able to be in those 1326 01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:11,080 Speaker 2: final minutes. And that was kind of where I knew 1327 01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:15,200 Speaker 2: to myself moving on from there. I always just say like, yo, 1328 01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:18,520 Speaker 2: I'm not going to go overseas the second contrast stop coming. 1329 01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:21,360 Speaker 2: I'll chalk it up like a man and just be like, yo, 1330 01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:24,600 Speaker 2: it's over. You know what I'm saying. And the same 1331 01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:26,920 Speaker 2: way I was able to take like a thirty year 1332 01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:28,600 Speaker 2: old spot when I was twenty two, I'm like, that's 1333 01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:32,080 Speaker 2: just a game, and I just knew, like, shit, that's 1334 01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:33,840 Speaker 2: a sign and on some trade me like three times 1335 01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:35,120 Speaker 2: in a year. I'm like, man, that shit did I 1336 01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:40,280 Speaker 2: ain't gonna keep playing with me like or that ten days? 1337 01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:44,160 Speaker 2: Like you mean like go somewhere for ten days and 1338 01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:48,760 Speaker 2: then not play. It's like like, nah, bro, young kiss my, 1339 01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:52,400 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like sign that one thing. 1340 01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:55,000 Speaker 2: You know, I'm grateful for, like the league and everything. 1341 01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:57,680 Speaker 2: But I was definitely ready to start the new chapter 1342 01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:00,280 Speaker 2: and comprehend like, Yo, it's been a hell of a run. 1343 01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:03,240 Speaker 2: But you know, Portland's cool, Portland's a fun time and 1344 01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:07,560 Speaker 2: it was some great runs and great battles and but 1345 01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:09,520 Speaker 2: you know it's damn the people say I played ten. 1346 01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:12,040 Speaker 2: I'm like, Bro, I played eight. You know what I'm saying. 1347 01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:14,760 Speaker 2: It wasn't in a sense like nothing bad, but you know, 1348 01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:17,080 Speaker 2: just the time time and changed. 1349 01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:19,840 Speaker 1: Yeah for sure, man, but you stuck around. But listen, man, 1350 01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:22,320 Speaker 1: at we gotta do this again. Man, you failed me 1351 01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:24,040 Speaker 1: at the show. You ain't even a guess, But that's 1352 01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:25,600 Speaker 1: a fact. I want to check my man's out. I 1353 01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:27,680 Speaker 1: gotta hide the point for park Man. Tell the people 1354 01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:28,840 Speaker 1: that need to have to be into bro. 1355 01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:32,160 Speaker 2: Yeah you know, man. First off, follow me aving turn 1356 01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:35,040 Speaker 2: on Instagram. And LinkedIn or wherever you get you know 1357 01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:38,200 Speaker 2: your it's crazy. Yeah, you know, you know, I get 1358 01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:42,160 Speaker 2: down on Twitter. It's the kid e T the only one. 1359 01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:44,280 Speaker 2: And then Ship and you listen to point for it. 1360 01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:46,480 Speaker 2: It's a normal way you spell it p O I 1361 01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:49,200 Speaker 2: N T F O r W A r D because 1362 01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:53,320 Speaker 2: can't spell. And then the last but not least, y'all 1363 01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:56,160 Speaker 2: like this pause, y'all be kicking it like it's dope ist, 1364 01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:59,360 Speaker 2: dope ist, dope light subscribe because that's how you can 1365 01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:02,640 Speaker 2: help me out. Dad asks all right or else I'm 1366 01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:12,200 Speaker 2: gonna have to go back to work now. But for real, bro, 1367 01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:14,320 Speaker 2: I appreciate y'all having me on and what y'all, what 1368 01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:18,040 Speaker 2: y'all is doing is dope. And like Jeff, you're the 1369 01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:21,480 Speaker 2: coolest dude I ever met. I'm glad you found your 1370 01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:24,480 Speaker 2: lane and like people can really see how bright of 1371 01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:27,200 Speaker 2: a personality special you know, a dudes you are in 1372 01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:31,200 Speaker 2: a nine crazy way. But like Ship, you know, I 1373 01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:33,200 Speaker 2: thought you was like cold at hooping, but like Bro, 1374 01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:35,600 Speaker 2: you funny as fuck. So I appreciate you able to 1375 01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:37,880 Speaker 2: do and like with your your homies, are able to 1376 01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:41,400 Speaker 2: really jump on pause. I appreciate what your niggas doing. 1377 01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:45,520 Speaker 3: We appreciate you be here and tell people that can 1378 01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:46,400 Speaker 3: grasp some March at. 1379 01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:50,080 Speaker 2: Shower Club five twenty dot com. Baby, we out the 1380 01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:50,680 Speaker 2: volume