Speaker 1: You own your masters, Yeah, and you were one of
Speaker 1: the youngest to ever do that at the age of
Speaker 1: twenty nine. Would you ever, I mean a lot of
Speaker 1: you see a lot of artists selling the catalog. Is
Speaker 1: that something Chris Brown would look to do in the future.
Speaker 2: I don't think I would because I feel like, uh,
Speaker 2: as as a black artist, that's that's what we've been
Speaker 2: wanting forever with to be able to get that get
Speaker 2: our masters right. So so for me to be able
Speaker 2: to do that, like and be one of the first
Speaker 2: young cats to do it, like it's like, oh my
Speaker 2: I beat the game. But I feel like I feel
Speaker 2: like I wouldn't. I wouldn't do it at this point
Speaker 2: because that's that's something my my children's children's children.
Speaker 3: Can he do all my life?
Speaker 4: Grinding all my life, sacrifights, hustle, pa the price?
Speaker 5: Want to slice?
Speaker 3: Got the Brons?
Speaker 5: Swap all my life?
Speaker 4: Be grinding all my life, all my life, grinding all
Speaker 4: my life and uh, sacrifights, hustle, pay the price one
Speaker 4: slice the Bros. Swap all my life.
Speaker 2: I be grinding all my life.
Speaker 1: Hello, welcome to another edition of Club Shay Shay. I
Speaker 1: am your host, Shannon sharp. I'm also the proprietor of
Speaker 1: Club Sha Sha and for today we have a very
Speaker 1: special edition of Club Shay Shay, We're.
Speaker 5: On the Road.
Speaker 1: He's one of the most accomplished R and B performers
Speaker 1: and hit makers of his era. He surpassed Elvis Presley
Speaker 1: for the most gold certified singles and Billboard Hot one
Speaker 1: hundred entries among all male vocals in history, the first
Speaker 1: male singer to have twenty platinum singles, the first R
Speaker 1: and B singer in history own one hundred Hot one
Speaker 1: hundred hits. One of the highest grossing African American touring
Speaker 1: artists of all times, one of the best selling digital
Speaker 1: artists of all time, a Grammy Award winner, global superstar, songwriter, dancer, actor, producer, entrepreneur, author, father.
Speaker 1: Some call him the King of R and B. When
Speaker 1: they say R and B is dad, I see check
Speaker 1: this man's resume, Ladies and gentlemen, Chris Brown, freezing Man
Speaker 1: who was a long.
Speaker 3: Time clubbing man man King R and B. Keepit you
Speaker 3: let me got it? Got it?
Speaker 5: How you doing?
Speaker 3: I'm great man.
Speaker 1: You know before I start every show, I always I
Speaker 1: have my own contact. I brought you a gift for you,
Speaker 1: about you, but I want you.
Speaker 5: To try it.
Speaker 3: Come on, let's get it, let's do it. I was
Speaker 3: about to do that. Okay, come on, you can op
Speaker 3: it if you want.
Speaker 2: You I'm gonna say that for later, Okay, I don't
Speaker 2: want to be too saucy.
Speaker 5: Hold hold on, we gotta get a toe, fir, we
Speaker 5: gotta get told. F Bro continued success.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, grasp on everything You've done so
Speaker 1: much more to accomplish. I appreciate you, Chris. It's smooth
Speaker 1: move you like and you that's what you can.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't like when to be like.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you don't got that burning nice and smooth y'all.
Speaker 5: You hurt the man, Bro, how you do it?
Speaker 3: I'm great, man, I'm great, great.
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, I really appreciate you taking time.
Speaker 1: Jack Queeze started to say, Man, Chris Brown manager, trying
Speaker 1: to get to get in touch with you.
Speaker 5: You might not gonna give me a number. It's like
Speaker 5: you're no problem.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, cause you and I we had we
Speaker 1: had talked a little bit before, and you're like, I'm
Speaker 1: going overseas.
Speaker 5: When I get back, let's do it. I say this, man,
Speaker 5: beiz I see he ain't gonna find time.
Speaker 1: And I got you to man, and it happened so
Speaker 1: quick because this is like a week this was done.
Speaker 1: I thought you was like, are we gonna do it
Speaker 1: in July August? He said, nah, We're gonna do it
Speaker 1: in a week.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I had to come through because I don't like to
Speaker 2: skip out on my promises.
Speaker 3: Man, I know we talked. I was like, I got you,
Speaker 3: So you did?
Speaker 5: You say you had, but you got me.
Speaker 1: So let's let's talk about what you got going on
Speaker 1: before we get to that basketball.
Speaker 5: I know you love basketball.
Speaker 1: Ron Artees said he believed had you not chosen the
Speaker 1: music path, you could have been an NBA player.
Speaker 2: Yeah, with a lot more discipline. I think I definitely
Speaker 2: think I could have pursued it.
Speaker 3: I really I really loved it. I still love the
Speaker 3: game I play all the time.
Speaker 2: Uh As far as like training and having a good
Speaker 2: conditioned I think I could have did it. And I
Speaker 2: don't think this profession kind of made me allow you to.
Speaker 5: Do kind of schedule as opposed to some what else is.
Speaker 2: Getting Yeah, so I gotta kind of even get acclimated
Speaker 2: and being a team player, right, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1: So because when when I hear everybody uh snoop dogg,
Speaker 1: I hear a lot of the NBA player there's like, okay,
Speaker 1: what rapper could like really hoop? I'm talking about like
Speaker 1: really really hoop. The first two names come up you
Speaker 1: J Cole? Yeah, so one on one who win it?
Speaker 3: Well right now, I mean J Cole.
Speaker 2: I got to give him his credit because he's improved
Speaker 2: his basketball game.
Speaker 3: Like him.
Speaker 2: I know you work with a couple of other guys
Speaker 2: that I work with to as far as like basketball training,
Speaker 2: but he's he's amazing. I'm still not gonna adubt me now,
Speaker 2: you know. So give me like a week of practice
Speaker 2: and then I think I got.
Speaker 5: Anough a couple of guys out Drake, he'd be hooping little.
Speaker 3: Dirt down with him this.
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna get j Cole though. We if
Speaker 2: we can make that happen, I love I would love that.
Speaker 2: I'm saying that humbly though, because Jay Cole is.
Speaker 5: Because I watched kind of watch both of you guys
Speaker 5: in the celebrity games at the NBA All Star Game.
Speaker 5: See you play a couple of times with some real players.
Speaker 5: You you for real guy game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if I'm if I'm serious about it, I play
Speaker 3: most of the time. I try to just have fun.
Speaker 3: But nah, I'm not. I'm not taking the air. I
Speaker 3: gotta i gotta do that.
Speaker 1: How much do we need to put up to make
Speaker 1: sure you take it serious? If we put up one
Speaker 1: hundred thive will to take off?
Speaker 3: Oh no, I'm in there, that's mine. I'm taking that.
Speaker 1: That's so so Cole got no chance.
Speaker 3: I mean nah nah.
Speaker 5: So if you were to say, if you're an NBA,
Speaker 5: if your game, Chris Brown, your game reminds you me
Speaker 5: of what NBA player you.
Speaker 2: Know, It's funny, bro a long time ago. They but
Speaker 2: I used to play a lot of my home theys
Speaker 2: like you look like CJ.
Speaker 3: Mccullor okay, And I was like why.
Speaker 2: And then I looked at some of his like high
Speaker 2: school pick and then some of his games like he
Speaker 2: was he's long Lenky played like me. So I was like,
Speaker 2: I mean, I'll take that any NBA player I would
Speaker 2: take you to. You know, you know that's a hard profession.
Speaker 3: To get into.
Speaker 5: Did you hoop in high school?
Speaker 2: Yes, definitely hooped in high school. I actually played varsity
Speaker 2: on the JV squad. But you know as the as
Speaker 2: a bring on, right, But I was I was always
Speaker 2: playing with older guys as a young age. When I
Speaker 2: was like ten or eleven years old, my dad used
Speaker 2: to take me to the gym and drop me off.
Speaker 3: It's like, look, I don't care get in the game.
Speaker 3: I don't care how old it is. Get in the game. Wow,
Speaker 3: And I'm playing with grown men, twenty seven thirty year olds,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 5: So what's your favorite NBA team?
Speaker 3: Favorite NBA team? Man, I'm in LA right now. I
Speaker 3: wish I wish my Lakers could.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know that I really want Lebron and them
Speaker 2: and to really do something man and make some history happen.
Speaker 3: But I'm such a fan.
Speaker 2: Of the game and certain areas are certain different teams,
Speaker 2: and I'm that it's hard for me to be like, hey,
Speaker 2: I'm this team all the way, you know, because because
Speaker 2: it's like dang, I like friends with this guy on
Speaker 2: this team and him have a personal relationship, so I'm
Speaker 2: rooting for him and then on this side.
Speaker 3: So whoever wins, the best player wins.
Speaker 5: But who's your favorite player?
Speaker 3: Favorite player? Kyrie, Kyrie Carie.
Speaker 2: He's one of my one of my closest friends, too,
Speaker 2: But as far as like seeing him play, being around him,
Speaker 2: play playing with him, like he's probably one of the
Speaker 2: most phenomenal guys when it comes to the English.
Speaker 5: On that back, bro, So, what do you like so
Speaker 5: much about Kyrie's game?
Speaker 2: Uh, it's tenacity. He's aggressive, but it's it's graceful.
Speaker 3: Right, you know.
Speaker 2: And and he's he's going and he and I think
Speaker 2: he makes other players better. I think he I think
Speaker 2: he's getting into that to that uh that uh consciousness
Speaker 2: of saying, hey, look, we got to do this together.
Speaker 2: So I think he brings out a lot of a
Speaker 2: lot of a lot of spunk and a lot of real,
Speaker 2: real talent, a lot of a lot of players that
Speaker 2: that probably already knew they had it, but he encourages that.
Speaker 1: I know you followed the game closely, so you see
Speaker 1: some of the trades that transpired, and you see Bradley
Speaker 1: Beal goes from the Wizard to go to the Enix Sons.
Speaker 1: So now he pairs with Kevin Durant and Devin Booker.
Speaker 1: You see Chris Paul gets traded, he gets moved again.
Speaker 1: Now he goes to the Golden State Warriors to go
Speaker 1: with Steph Draymondic potentially Draymond Draymond is unrestricted free agent.
Speaker 5: You see Jordan Poole goes to the Wizard, So.
Speaker 1: You think this is Kevin Durant's opportunity now to get
Speaker 1: a ring away from Golden State.
Speaker 3: I thought it was this time. I thought it was
Speaker 3: this time, But uh, I think it's I think it's
Speaker 3: up in the area. I think Chris going.
Speaker 5: To Golden State.
Speaker 3: Man, it's that that's a that's a good place for him.
Speaker 2: I just want him to get a ring, right, I like,
Speaker 2: Chris been doing this thing for a while, but I
Speaker 2: really want him to get a ring.
Speaker 3: But I think KD is like, you know, they gonna
Speaker 3: be coming. They're gonna be coming.
Speaker 5: Would you like to see in Chris Paul on the
Speaker 5: on the Lakers.
Speaker 3: He would have been a good asset. But I but
Speaker 3: I feel like he would have. He would have.
Speaker 2: You know, there's there's two types of players. There's the
Speaker 2: coaches players and then there's the there's a okay, there's.
Speaker 3: The militant or the follower.
Speaker 2: So I feel like he would he would up in
Speaker 2: the system and get it together, like you know, bringing
Speaker 2: them all in, making sure from even even from Anthony
Speaker 2: Davis to, Hey, look, we gotta do this, y'all.
Speaker 3: Make sure y'all stop this.
Speaker 2: He's gonna he has that tenacity, right, So I feel
Speaker 2: like him and him and Lebron a with a I
Speaker 2: think they would have paired up.
Speaker 3: I don't think that they would have clashed.
Speaker 2: What about a Kyrie Lebron reunion? I would love it.
Speaker 2: I would love it. I think here in La.
Speaker 1: Or you want Bron to go to Dallas, Nah, it's got.
Speaker 5: To happen to La.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it gotta be in La. I would love to
Speaker 3: see them paired up.
Speaker 2: I think their chemistry is like Undereniavel And I think
Speaker 2: with seeing those two guys in motion is just gon
Speaker 2: spark another whole nother uprise in those guys.
Speaker 3: So I feel like.
Speaker 2: That's what I want to see. I mean, I don't
Speaker 2: know what Kyle I want to do, man, but I
Speaker 2: would love to see that.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't get you get your take on this. You've
Speaker 1: been in the spotlight, man, basically your whole life. I mean,
Speaker 1: since you're probably twelve thirteen. Yeah, and you get Zion
Speaker 1: Williamson who's been in the spotlights, he's probably fifteen sixteen,
Speaker 1: And you see the issue he having with girl. What
Speaker 1: advice would you give him? How would you tell him
Speaker 1: to navigate this situation?
Speaker 5: He's in it now? Yeah, there, you can't turn them back.
Speaker 1: He have a girl, he has one young lady pregnant,
Speaker 1: is gonna have He's welcome with your child. And then
Speaker 1: you have this other one over here just putting all
Speaker 1: this business.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's hard out here.
Speaker 2: When I would just pray for Zion man, I feel like, hey, man, is.
Speaker 5: That what you need? A prayer?
Speaker 2: Just praying? You know, be be the best man you
Speaker 2: could be at that point. You know, I'm blessed to
Speaker 2: have three children, three different baby moms. But at the
Speaker 2: same time, the relationship that I've built with them and
Speaker 2: the and the uh, the energy that I that I
Speaker 2: kind of come with is it's a little bit more
Speaker 2: I don't know, my R and B guys, I'm.
Speaker 3: A little bit more subtle with it.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 5: Is it hard?
Speaker 2: It's very hard. You gotta but you gotta also watch out.
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, we all want to be in
Speaker 2: the same spots, in the same places, the clubs we
Speaker 2: want to be to this day, I still want to
Speaker 2: see some beautiful women.
Speaker 3: But at the same time.
Speaker 2: You just got to be mind full of the certain
Speaker 2: company you will keep or the trappers that will will decept.
Speaker 3: Themselves as athletes.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure that the guys on the team probably
Speaker 2: give him real pep talk.
Speaker 3: Look you can't do this, look, you know, but uh,
Speaker 3: on the road, on our on our end.
Speaker 2: It's a it's a little bit different, but I understand
Speaker 2: what he's going through.
Speaker 3: So he just gotta he just gotta hold his head together.
Speaker 3: Man hold your head.
Speaker 1: So hopefully he's learned from some of the mistakes that
Speaker 1: he had made, because I'm sure there this this social
Speaker 1: media is a different animal.
Speaker 3: Man animal animal.
Speaker 2: I'll try to I'm engaged with the social media stuff,
Speaker 2: but I'll try to stay away. Like my fans always
Speaker 2: asking why you never like posting selfies or you never
Speaker 2: I'm like, sometimes I'll just be wanting to chill because
Speaker 2: because it's a long want to get away from that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: sometimes you need it, Sometimes you need that piece of mind.
Speaker 2: So I feel like in this era, it's so easy
Speaker 2: to contact someone you know, so so if you so
Speaker 2: even if they made it, except well, you get scroll
Speaker 2: down your explore page and you're like, oh, man, hold
Speaker 2: on and just say.
Speaker 1: Hey, and they hit you back, and it's like you
Speaker 1: can say that. Most people can't say that. They gonna
Speaker 1: say bye. You could say how this is like is
Speaker 1: this really you?
Speaker 3: You say yes, yeah, you gotta use that Vanish mud.
Speaker 5: That they disagree have to come it.
Speaker 3: Definitely definitely let me.
Speaker 5: Ask you this honestly.
Speaker 1: Uh, the job Morant He was suspended for twenty the
Speaker 1: first twenty five games of the season. Yeah, what if
Speaker 1: if you could see if job, if John sitting right
Speaker 1: where I'm sitting, Yeah, and you could talk to it,
Speaker 1: what would you say?
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what I what I would
Speaker 2: saying because because I also look at my life and
Speaker 2: I kind of look at it as a mirror with
Speaker 2: certain things, especially when it comes to like.
Speaker 3: Being shunned in a certain negative spotlight.
Speaker 2: I feel like he's he's gonna I mean, everybody learns man,
Speaker 2: he's he's young, but I feel like he's you know,
Speaker 2: people make mistakes, you know, sometimes we make it continuous, right,
Speaker 2: But you know, I feel like I can't. I can't
Speaker 2: tell him how to how to write his story or
Speaker 2: or find his path. I would just say, just just
Speaker 2: do what you came in to do, right, I was.
Speaker 3: That's all I can say.
Speaker 1: You try to surround yourself with as many good people
Speaker 1: as you possibly can. Yeah, and if you feel somebody
Speaker 1: is not adding, you have to remove them. Have there
Speaker 1: been a situation where you felt someone was not adding
Speaker 1: to Chris Brown, but they were taking that you had
Speaker 1: to like, I'm sorry, but I've got to stop the
Speaker 1: ride here, you have to get off.
Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, absolutely.
Speaker 5: Through the years, it's hard.
Speaker 3: It's very hard.
Speaker 2: Because you build relationships with people and you have and
Speaker 2: you have like brotherhoods with people. People people state that
Speaker 2: like when you're on the road, you got people with
Speaker 2: you every day or and you know some some people,
Speaker 2: I'm I'm a family first type of guy. Yes, but
Speaker 2: family doesn't necessarily mean have to be biologically right.
Speaker 5: It's not necessarily blood. You sometimes blood.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2: So I feel like I have a I have a
Speaker 2: nice entourage. Are a nice group of people now that
Speaker 2: that are for me, that understand the bigger goal, you know.
Speaker 2: So I think now it was very it was very
Speaker 2: hard for me because because I would hang out with
Speaker 2: you know, we be with gang bangers, we'd be with
Speaker 2: the wrong type of people you will be with, you know,
Speaker 2: just just people that don't go with the life path
Speaker 2: that you might want to choose.
Speaker 3: Correct, So I feel like, but but you kind of
Speaker 3: you kind of start absorbing their energy.
Speaker 2: So if it doesn't benefit you, I feel like you
Speaker 2: really have to kind of like separate yourself. And I
Speaker 2: was my children were able to kind of like get
Speaker 2: me out of that.
Speaker 5: So it was the kid for you.
Speaker 2: For me, per se Yes, definitely my kids because it
Speaker 2: made me have a real responsibility, Like I could be
Speaker 2: reckless without what.
Speaker 3: There was no one to care for, but you know.
Speaker 5: My children responsibility.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it kind of made me start thinking.
Speaker 5: And that sees what Chris is doing, what sees what
Speaker 5: Daddy is doing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you feel that had you not had kids,
Speaker 1: you might've been on a different path.
Speaker 2: Possibly possibly I might have been a lot more careless,
Speaker 2: careless because I was.
Speaker 3: I was reckless. I was definitely I've been reckless when
Speaker 3: I was young a lot.
Speaker 2: But I feel you know that, right, Yeah, but I'm
Speaker 2: I'm talking about nineteen twenty twenty one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was. I was feeling myself, you know.
Speaker 2: So I think I think now I'm able to be
Speaker 2: appreciative of Like, let's say, if people like that song
Speaker 2: I have or people listening to me.
Speaker 3: You know what, I readly like that song.
Speaker 2: I really feel it like real thank you and it's
Speaker 2: a real thank you', not like all right right, you know.
Speaker 2: So I think my kids made me kind of like
Speaker 2: see other aspects that were fun in life. But we'll
Speaker 2: still I'm still able to have my my career of
Speaker 2: the lifestyle that I live, but maintain it in a
Speaker 2: a in a better balance.
Speaker 5: Do your kids make you appreciate more a life?
Speaker 2: Yeah, they made me appreciate the stuff that I used
Speaker 2: to do when I was a kid because they do
Speaker 2: everything that I sued to do when I was a kid.
Speaker 2: So and then being able to talk to them, like
Speaker 2: my dad would tell me certain things, but there would
Speaker 2: be kind of there would be limitations on it.
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm just like, hey, let me tell
Speaker 3: you this.
Speaker 2: Because because you're gonna because I know you're gonna do this,
Speaker 2: so let me explain to you exactly.
Speaker 3: So it's a little different.
Speaker 2: Like my kids are definitely my friends until I have
Speaker 2: to be their father old old older, like older, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, look, okay, look, you can't be doing it
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 3: Right now, I'm in the fun stages.
Speaker 1: Right So how difficult is it for your kids considering
Speaker 1: your parents didn't have what you have, So how difficult
Speaker 1: is it going to be for you to read your
Speaker 1: kids compared to how your parents rid you.
Speaker 2: The funniest thing for that is that I love the
Speaker 2: people that I have around.
Speaker 3: But I always tell tell my mom, I tell their moms.
Speaker 2: I'm like, look, I didn't have none of this, but
Speaker 2: I still had so much fun as a child. My
Speaker 2: mom and my father they allow me to be like kids.
Speaker 3: You didn't I spoil them there?
Speaker 2: Okay, But I always joke with my oldest daughter and
Speaker 2: I'm like, look, I'm finna take you to the hood.
Speaker 2: You're finna go and learn all that and stay over
Speaker 2: there with your cousins for a couple of weekends.
Speaker 3: Right, just so you, just so you nothing is handed
Speaker 3: to you.
Speaker 2: I want you to understand, like I want you to
Speaker 2: be just as sweet how my mother is and how
Speaker 2: my mother instilled in me.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. But at the same time,
Speaker 3: find yourself, love life, and don't you don't have to.
Speaker 2: Following daddy is for seventh, Like that, if they want
Speaker 2: to sing, great, if they want to perform entertained business,
Speaker 2: perfect but I'm just as happy if they want to
Speaker 2: do anything.
Speaker 1: Else with when you were growing up. Let's just say,
Speaker 1: for the sake of ar you're seven eight seventy ten
Speaker 1: years old. What did Chris Brown want to be?
Speaker 3: Seven eight? Man? I'm not gonna lie. At that time,
Speaker 3: I love so much.
Speaker 2: I love music so much, but it was kind of
Speaker 2: like my own personal like.
Speaker 3: Okay, nobody really knows I love this music like this,
Speaker 3: I really wanted to, like play sports. I wanted to I.
Speaker 5: Wanted to do in the NBA. Did you play football?
Speaker 3: Yes, definitely played football. Uh, ninth grade.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be real, like my ninth grade year, I
Speaker 2: had broke my wrists in both and both bones. That
Speaker 2: snapped it boom catching that catching the wide receivers.
Speaker 3: But I caught a pass. Boom.
Speaker 2: I'm right at the like the teen yard line. My
Speaker 2: my cousin that plays on the other team kissed me.
Speaker 3: Breaks my mom. He broke your wrists, broke my wrist.
Speaker 3: It was done like this, man. I was like, what
Speaker 3: you doing was.
Speaker 2: He was apologizing and everything, and we went undefeated.
Speaker 3: That y'all was so mad. But but what.
Speaker 2: Happened was it kind of almost prohibited me from playing basketball.
Speaker 3: So I was like, you know what, I might I
Speaker 3: might need to if I really want to do the basketball.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna give it a football up, you know,
Speaker 2: but I love football though, still love football.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you have a team, you have a player, favorite player.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: I'm from Virginia, so it's it's a whole bunch of
Speaker 2: either the Redskins or you, or you the Cowboys, you know,
Speaker 2: because we don't really you know, Virginia, we don't really
Speaker 2: have a But in my household, it was the Redskins.
Speaker 2: It was the Cowboys. And they used to argue, Yeah, so.
Speaker 5: You like the cowboy? How how do you like that?
Speaker 3: Allong?
Speaker 1: If you from if you from that area, if you're
Speaker 1: from the DC, the Maryland to Virginia, you hate the cowboys.
Speaker 2: In our household, they love they love the cowboys.
Speaker 5: They love the cowboys, y'all, y'all to be undercovered cowboy.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: You put big coachs on big coats. No, don't worry
Speaker 2: to Jersey to the game.
Speaker 1: So seven A, You're like, okay, I think it really,
Speaker 1: So when did you start to take music serious and say,
Speaker 1: you know what, this basketball thing you gotta take a
Speaker 1: back seat.
Speaker 2: I was actually doing music secretively, like I was doing
Speaker 2: like the like nobody in my school knew that I
Speaker 2: that I kind of like did music. Then I could
Speaker 2: sing in things like that, but I would be in
Speaker 2: basketball practice. I'm saying the seventh eighth grade, ninth grade
Speaker 2: basketball practice six thirty, didn't drive our way go to
Speaker 2: the studio and be there till maybe that.
Speaker 3: Say, three in the morning. They got to get back
Speaker 3: and go back to school.
Speaker 2: And you know, so I was doing that a while,
Speaker 2: but I met I have met these producers, a couple
Speaker 2: of guys that are from the area, and I was like, no,
Speaker 2: I'm serious about it. So you know, I was a
Speaker 2: little nervous because I never really recorded and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: So my first time actually doing it, I was I
Speaker 2: was kind of like just behind the ears, like, hey man,
Speaker 2: what are we going to do?
Speaker 3: Like how do I do this? Like and I do
Speaker 3: I even sound good?
Speaker 2: But I knew I had it enemy to do it,
Speaker 2: so I just was like, this is this is kind
Speaker 2: of calling me faster than I think the other thing
Speaker 2: is right.
Speaker 5: So, but how was it?
Speaker 1: Like given so much you a child superstar and the
Speaker 1: expectations that come along with that.
Speaker 3: Man, I was. I was kind of still in bliss.
Speaker 2: Like when I was like fifteen fourteen, my first song
Speaker 2: came out, I was, I was kind of like shocked,
Speaker 2: so everything was new. So I kind of I kind
Speaker 2: of had tough skin because I was, you know, I
Speaker 2: wanted to I was ready for it.
Speaker 3: So whether they had to be doing.
Speaker 2: Hours and hours of van rids from from the east
Speaker 2: of the West Coast or you know, going through the
Speaker 2: Bible Belt, doing every interview every radio station, I did.
Speaker 3: It was something I wanted to do.
Speaker 2: I felt like I felt like it was my calling, Like,
Speaker 2: and I'm from a small town, so I was like,
Speaker 2: how did I even get here?
Speaker 3: Every step of the way. So I was appreciative, you know,
Speaker 3: I was. I was ready for.
Speaker 2: I think I did one actual talent show. It was
Speaker 2: a it was at summer camp. Oh okay, it was
Speaker 2: at like a summer camp.
Speaker 3: I did you better have one one?
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm gonna say because somebody got.
Speaker 2: Bragging, right, Yeah, I know. I definitely won and I did.
Speaker 3: It's funny. I did throng song Cisco Bro. I had
Speaker 3: to like my little homegirl dancers, like I had to
Speaker 3: be like Bro. I had to have been seven like
Speaker 3: seven or eight.
Speaker 1: Oh, I hope that was at the end of the
Speaker 1: week camp and not the beginning of the weeknd.
Speaker 5: They'll probably go to see you home.
Speaker 2: Oh the camp leaders they laughed, but everybody kind of
Speaker 2: went crazy in there, and I was like, I think
Speaker 2: I might can do this right, you know, but that
Speaker 2: was my first actual talent show. I didn't really like.
Speaker 3: I used to go to the mall and see I
Speaker 3: used to go to the mall, like my homeboys.
Speaker 2: Would go come with me like the weekend, will go
Speaker 2: drive up to the mall and be like and they
Speaker 2: would see a group of girls and you know.
Speaker 3: When like the food courses certain all yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I was like, you know what, they'd be like, yo, bro,
Speaker 2: just sing and I'll sing Mario, I'll sing somebody's song
Speaker 2: that's hot on the radio, usher song like so. And
Speaker 2: then they would be like, hey, what's your name? And
Speaker 2: I'd be like, Okay, We're good, Okay, I got we
Speaker 2: can do this. We can do this every weekend, Let's
Speaker 2: do it.
Speaker 5: So you were saying in the mall to get the girl. Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 5: it worked. Every time.
Speaker 3: It worked.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it worked every time unless they was a two
Speaker 2: grown They're like y'all some little boys.
Speaker 3: If we can't mess with y'all.
Speaker 5: So what so, what have you learned from if? What
Speaker 5: would the thirty three I think you're thirty three about.
Speaker 3: To be thirty thirty four?
Speaker 5: What would the thirty four year old till the fifteen
Speaker 5: to twenty twenty three year old Chris.
Speaker 3: Brown fifteen to twenty three year old?
Speaker 5: What would the thirty four year old telling.
Speaker 2: I would say, I damn, I never thought about that.
Speaker 3: That's crazy. I think I would tell him, be humble.
Speaker 2: The road ahead isn't isn't the end, It's just the beginning.
Speaker 2: So but but be humbling and everything you do.
Speaker 5: So it said you discovered that your dad's gas station.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah kind of yeah.
Speaker 5: So how did that go? Okay?
Speaker 1: You your dand sing you out to put so did
Speaker 1: you pump gas or you just at the gas station
Speaker 1: with your.
Speaker 5: Dad and you know, you just singing and people like, man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I used to help my dad. I used to eat.
Speaker 2: I used to go there after school and then, uh,
Speaker 2: you know how certain people come in and he was like, Hey,
Speaker 2: I'm does.
Speaker 3: Anybody in this town like do music twn or anything?
Speaker 2: And then and I was just listening to the guy
Speaker 2: and my dad was like, my son sings, and so
Speaker 2: he basically gave us like his contact information, and through him,
Speaker 2: I met the producers and the people who actually got
Speaker 2: me to you know, getting to New York and meeting
Speaker 2: the record labels. So a lot of a lot of that,
Speaker 2: a lot of that time that was kind of like
Speaker 2: a four year process, but that kind of started.
Speaker 3: That's how I was discovering.
Speaker 1: So, I mean, Teddy Riley's from your area, Timberland, Google.
Speaker 5: You, Yeah, you ain't bumping another bill mate.
Speaker 3: No, because because Virginia's Virginia's so big.
Speaker 2: I'm sure like Virginia's big, and it's different places where
Speaker 2: I'm from. It's maybe like I want to say, an
Speaker 2: hour and a half away from where they are, you know,
Speaker 2: and then we don't have like musical centers or performing
Speaker 2: our stuff that that we can showcase our talent. It's
Speaker 2: Virginia's really like a sports you know, a state. So
Speaker 2: I feel like, uh, we were kind of like the
Speaker 2: roads in the concrete. I feel like everybody, I think
Speaker 2: everybody was kind of like, oh you made it, man,
Speaker 2: it's amazing. But but you know, yeah, Teddy Rally and
Speaker 2: all them, they kind of started it off because Virginia
Speaker 2: Beach kind of was was. I remember my my moms
Speaker 2: and aunts and pumped the back. Man they going, they said,
Speaker 2: were going down there for the weekend. We'll never be
Speaker 2: able to go up. Man, they was going out there
Speaker 2: probably while Mama, hope you won't.
Speaker 3: But see what you.
Speaker 1: So when you tell your parents you're dropping out of
Speaker 1: high school? Yeah, did they say, boy, you crazy? Did
Speaker 1: this what kind of made it sound nice?
Speaker 3: Again? I said, Mama, I got this. I got this opportunity.
Speaker 3: I remember being in the phone. I was.
Speaker 2: I was in New York, but I was in the
Speaker 2: record label's office.
Speaker 3: But I went to the bathroom. I said, Mom, I
Speaker 3: really young. I got a record deal.
Speaker 2: I said, But I'm not gonna get out of school.
Speaker 2: They'll give me a tutor, you know. You know, So
Speaker 2: I actually finished school. So I but it took me
Speaker 2: instead of me finishing I supposed to. Yeah, I left it.
Speaker 2: It took me like two years because I was doing
Speaker 2: I was on the road. I was working my ninth
Speaker 2: and tenth grade. I left my tenth grade year and
Speaker 2: that's when my single came out. But so I was
Speaker 2: supposed to be class of seven, but I ended up
Speaker 2: becoming Class of O nine because I had to.
Speaker 5: I had to wait, why would you what made you
Speaker 5: better on yourself?
Speaker 1: Why would you so sure that this was the opportunity
Speaker 1: that was too good to pass to pass up? And
Speaker 1: I'm willing to, like, you know what, for gold my
Speaker 1: final in two years.
Speaker 2: I feel like the dream I never lost that when
Speaker 2: they be like what you want to be when you
Speaker 2: when you grew up and you still have those those
Speaker 2: grandiose ambitions.
Speaker 3: I felt like the light bulb was clinking, like, Hey,
Speaker 3: this is that you've been actioning for this.
Speaker 2: This was your action for a goal. And look, look,
Speaker 2: look where we are in this situation. Like my my
Speaker 2: family didn't didn't have money at all. So it's like
Speaker 2: I wanted, I wanted to do better than my whole
Speaker 2: like before me, in before for them, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I wanted to be able to say, you.
Speaker 2: Know what, I did this out of out of everybody
Speaker 2: in my family, right, everybody in my town.
Speaker 3: Everything you know, I saw.
Speaker 2: I saw the opportunity to make it a better opportunity
Speaker 2: for them, and definitely make a better opportunity for my mom.
Speaker 1: You leave, you moved to New York, New York is
Speaker 1: really really different than Virginia. Yeah, they didn't man to
Speaker 1: get lonely. Did you get home sick that you said? Damn,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I may did the right the
Speaker 1: right thing here.
Speaker 3: You know what? It was fun because because of the freedom,
Speaker 3: like my mom.
Speaker 2: My mom didn't know at first, because a lot of
Speaker 2: a lot of the times I would go on a
Speaker 2: Greyhound from Virginia and go all the way to Harlem
Speaker 2: and I would be I would be by yourself. No,
Speaker 2: I would be with the guys who were in the
Speaker 2: production team and they had and they had a son
Speaker 2: and he's my brother to this day, but we were
Speaker 2: the same age. So he kind of showed me the
Speaker 2: ropes and he and he grew right up in Middle Halem.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, I was kind of it was a
Speaker 2: calture shod. It was like, man, I felt so green,
Speaker 2: like I felt so out of it.
Speaker 3: And I would speak to people. I would go and
Speaker 3: see people be like, hey, how y'all doing with the
Speaker 3: hair on?
Speaker 5: You got it from the South.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I had to I had to really kind
Speaker 2: of like get acclimated. But over over about a three
Speaker 2: month period, I kind of started started finding my way,
Speaker 2: and I think that kind of made me be adaptable
Speaker 2: in every situation and being an artist going, whether it
Speaker 2: be Belgium, whether it be London, Australia, Like I'm able
Speaker 2: to be presentable in a room amongst different cultures and ethnicities.
Speaker 5: Were it ever nice that you think this wasn't gonna happen?
Speaker 3: Yeah, all the time, all the time.
Speaker 2: I felt like a lot of like a lot of
Speaker 2: people don't see those that everybody gets like like they
Speaker 2: just see the success, right and they don't think that
Speaker 2: it takes hard work.
Speaker 5: They just got discovered. You went to this place. Boom,
Speaker 5: it blew up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like it would sound like that if it was
Speaker 2: written in a you know, fairy tale story, but not
Speaker 2: a lot a lot of hard works, a lot of
Speaker 2: late nights sleep it's nice, stressful nights crying in the studio,
Speaker 2: not thinking I'm good enough, like as a as a
Speaker 2: younger artist. But yeah, a lot of that, But I
Speaker 2: think like I could, I didn't let that doubt overshadow
Speaker 2: the dream.
Speaker 3: I feel like my heart.
Speaker 2: Was was was was in it, so I was I was,
Speaker 2: I was ready for anything, just even to this day,
Speaker 2: like my heart and my passion is in what I
Speaker 2: do still that. Yeah, So so I feel like that's
Speaker 2: what I guess keeps me consistent, or keeps people interested
Speaker 2: or or you know, engaged in my music.
Speaker 5: Death Jam.
Speaker 1: You get a contract offer from death Jam. They offer
Speaker 1: you a contract on the spot, and you turned it down.
Speaker 1: Why did you turn it down? What is the numbers?
Speaker 1: What made Chris Brown? Because this is your opportunity.
Speaker 5: This is death Jam. This ain't no no, this ain't
Speaker 5: no no glass of music. This is death Jam. They
Speaker 5: offer you a contract, Chris, and you said, nah, I'm good.
Speaker 3: I'm thinking I'm country.
Speaker 2: The man wouldn't talk to my mama, huh. So basically
Speaker 2: he wanted me to basically like with the production guys.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to say the executive name because I
Speaker 2: love him to this day. I'm never gonna I'm never
Speaker 2: going to expose them. But I wanted to get him
Speaker 2: on the phone with my mom and be like, okay, cool,
Speaker 2: So could you explain this to my mom?
Speaker 3: What's going on?
Speaker 2: You know, I'm I think I'm fourteen at the time,
Speaker 2: So yeah, fourteen, just turned fourteen, and my production crew
Speaker 2: was there, but you know, they're my handlers at that time.
Speaker 2: But you know, at the same time. We're all in
Speaker 2: the same excitement. But I just wanted to makes sense,
Speaker 2: my mom is her words, tell her, boy, so you
Speaker 2: got to tell to my mama. So as soon as
Speaker 2: that happened, he was like, oh no, no, no, no, I
Speaker 2: don't need that. We were good and I and I
Speaker 2: kind of didn't like. I didn't like what that. I
Speaker 2: felt like they wanted to get over like I was.
Speaker 2: You know, I wasn't I wasn't green, I was.
Speaker 3: Very street wart. So I just was like, well, why
Speaker 3: wouldn't you just you know, I'm not saying, hey, say
Speaker 3: how to my mama exactly.
Speaker 2: So so that kind of made me kind of have reservations.
Speaker 2: But then Tina Davis, who was my manager at the time,
Speaker 2: she was working at Death Gym.
Speaker 3: I think she they had a merger.
Speaker 2: So she she was she went, she went her separate ways,
Speaker 2: but I had I had learned so much from her,
Speaker 2: even from going into the different meetings, how to prep
Speaker 2: how to be ready to perform. So I was like,
Speaker 2: you know what, I need someone like that that can
Speaker 2: show me that because I don't. I'm just I'm just
Speaker 2: going off the raw music at this point. So she
Speaker 2: was able to like, Tina, would you mind managing me?
Speaker 2: And so she was like cool, let's do it. And
Speaker 2: from there she actually got me uh all the other
Speaker 2: other deals or other other sittings with the labels that
Speaker 2: I was sitting with.
Speaker 3: So yeah, did he turn you down? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 5: So how did that beating go? So?
Speaker 1: So what so how did the meeting go? And then
Speaker 1: what did he say? Why did he turn you down?
Speaker 2: And this was this is probably maybe two or three
Speaker 2: years prior, so I was like eleven or twelve at
Speaker 2: this time.
Speaker 3: The same kid that I said that that showed me
Speaker 3: the ropes in New York. Yeah, he he Me and
Speaker 3: him had songs. It was like a group.
Speaker 2: So me and him had different like uh songs that
Speaker 2: we would do together, and I would do solo songs.
Speaker 2: So we both got the audition. He's like, all right, cool,
Speaker 2: let's go, let's go and meet him and let's go sing.
Speaker 2: So we went in and we went in there together.
Speaker 2: He was like cool, we did the song that we
Speaker 2: have together and I'm singing on the course and so
Speaker 2: he was just like cool, cool, Yeah, I talk to you,
Speaker 2: you know, he yeah, can he go outside for a second,
Speaker 2: We're gonna just talk.
Speaker 3: Was like, nah, we don't want we don't want him.
Speaker 5: They didn't want you want me.
Speaker 2: So I was like, as a twelve thirteen year old,
Speaker 2: I was in that elevator, probably crying like.
Speaker 3: Them up so but you knew who Diddy was, right of.
Speaker 2: Course, of course, And at the pinda, I'm like, man,
Speaker 2: First of all, I was just excited just to meet them.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Like, so being in the room kind of made me, uh,
Speaker 2: made me like shaky, So I probably was nervous and
Speaker 2: singing crazy.
Speaker 3: But at the same time, He's.
Speaker 2: Like, ah, I'm gonna pass on that, right, So I
Speaker 2: was kind of I was like, you know what, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna show him like, so that was my that was
Speaker 2: my motivation to keep going to It's.
Speaker 1: So because knowing who Diddy was, for Dinny to say, nah,
Speaker 1: you need to go on outside, it probably would be
Speaker 1: like a basketball player said Phil Jackson said, nah, go away.
Speaker 1: You know one of these prominent coach You said, nah, bro,
Speaker 1: you not. I don't think you good enough, So you go.
Speaker 1: So you're on the elevator, what are you thinking.
Speaker 3: Like, am I not good enough?
Speaker 5: Because he did he just told me like nah.
Speaker 2: Of course, of course, of course, I'm definitely I was
Speaker 2: in the elevator like a man, this might be it
Speaker 2: for me, you know, because as a.
Speaker 3: D when you're a kid, you think anything that's.
Speaker 2: H But I think I think I just took I
Speaker 2: took that motivation. Me and my me and my my homeboy.
Speaker 2: We just was like, you know what, let's just keep
Speaker 2: going back in the studio. Let's just let's just make
Speaker 2: more songs. Let's get get better. We just started, so
Speaker 2: I think, But I think I think puff for that man,
Speaker 2: They didn't mean I appreciate it though, Like because that
Speaker 2: made me, that made me get on my gun.
Speaker 1: You say, you hire teena David, says your business manager.
Speaker 1: What did you learn from her?
Speaker 2: I learned everything from media training, to to how to
Speaker 2: how to how to be presentable in the room, how
Speaker 2: to how to speak to people, how to how to
Speaker 2: listen to people.
Speaker 3: You know. I was I was like so country and like, hey,
Speaker 3: what's up, y'all? I'm just loud.
Speaker 2: So I felt like I feel like she guided me
Speaker 2: through a lot of the music industry, the business of
Speaker 2: how it works, meeting pds program directors and going to
Speaker 2: different radio stations, teaching.
Speaker 3: Me how to have showmanship. Like she was, she would
Speaker 3: be like nah.
Speaker 2: She used to tell me because because Neo's a good
Speaker 2: friend of mine as well, and she worked with Neil before,
Speaker 2: so she was like, She's like, nah, huh, you don't
Speaker 2: got showman ship like Neo.
Speaker 3: And I was like, huh, what what am I not doing?
Speaker 3: So I would have.
Speaker 2: Just rehearsals, not even dance, just rehearsals of me just
Speaker 2: figuring out how to be me on stage or what
Speaker 2: what was me when I get on stage?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 1: So when you hear that first song you hear come
Speaker 1: on the radio, what's going through your mind?
Speaker 2: Man, I'm cussing first, and I'm in the basement, so
Speaker 2: my mama don't hear me, but I'm cussing. I remember
Speaker 2: I had a spot in Jersey because right when I
Speaker 2: signed my deal, I wasn't out of school yet, but
Speaker 2: they had they had to push put me in a
Speaker 2: place to.
Speaker 3: Where I could be closer to the label to start working.
Speaker 2: So I was still doing in school in Virginia and
Speaker 2: I had just left them, and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm about to I'm about to be in the radio.
Speaker 3: Everybody radio, what are you talking about?
Speaker 2: So then when they say I remember the song came on.
Speaker 2: My cousins was calling me, like, Bro, they playing you
Speaker 2: on the radio, bro, And I'm like you lying, And
Speaker 2: I remember I turned it on. I think I sat
Speaker 2: in the corner. It was like and yaled for like
Speaker 2: five minutes straight, like I.
Speaker 3: Felt it was the best feeling. Like I still feel
Speaker 3: like that when I when I hear my songs on
Speaker 3: the radio.
Speaker 2: Now it's not the same excitement, but it's still the same.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's definitely definitely run.
Speaker 1: It made you the first artist is ninety five to
Speaker 1: have a debut single to talk the charts man, did
Speaker 1: you know that song? I mean, obviously it was the
Speaker 1: first song that was released, but did you know that
Speaker 1: song would forever change your life?
Speaker 3: No? No, I'm gonna be real.
Speaker 2: When I did that song, we were in Miami and
Speaker 2: Hit Factory Scott Storch, Sean Garrett like, and I was
Speaker 2: just and I was a student because this is my
Speaker 2: first ever album, so any producer would me and I'm
Speaker 2: just soaking it all in, you know. So I'm scared.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, like, I don't sound good. I don't know
Speaker 2: if they do I sound good. I hate I don't
Speaker 2: know if I like the song because I was too
Speaker 2: nervous in my head. But then they was like, nah,
Speaker 2: this is the one. But I knew I wanted to
Speaker 2: dance in it. The music was bumping, so I was like, look,
Speaker 2: I want to dance. I just want to showcase this.
Speaker 2: But I didn't know. I think I never had an
Speaker 2: expectation that it would have the success that it put
Speaker 2: me at.
Speaker 1: You know, So, what's your your favorite song of all
Speaker 1: the songs you've done, what's your favorite song?
Speaker 5: And give me your top three?
Speaker 3: My top three.
Speaker 2: Man, it's so hard with me because I have this,
Speaker 2: just to be honest, I have about fifteen thousand unreleased songs,
Speaker 2: right what, Yeah, I got like in my phone alone,
Speaker 2: like my in certain apps I have I want to say,
Speaker 2: maybe eighteen hundred.
Speaker 3: It's eighteen hundred to like. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So obviously we're in your studio, so you come down
Speaker 1: here like you know, it's like and just crank out songs.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it was a point.
Speaker 2: It was a point where I used to stay in
Speaker 2: the studio, Like when I was doing a lot of
Speaker 2: my earlier albums.
Speaker 3: I had to learn.
Speaker 2: But but around I want to say, around the Fame
Speaker 2: album and certain stuff like that, I was kind of
Speaker 2: like in my in my zone, I knew how, I
Speaker 2: knew what I wanted. Yeah, So even for me now,
Speaker 2: I put the studio in my house because like I
Speaker 2: can draw inspiration faster, Like if I think of something,
Speaker 2: if I think of an idea, like oh I got
Speaker 2: an idea for this song, I don't have to like
Speaker 2: wait or set up the studio and like, okay, I
Speaker 2: gotta go to studio now.
Speaker 5: So if you in your bed at night and you
Speaker 5: think of something, you just come down here and just Yeah.
Speaker 2: It depends because I'll make sure my engineers. Await, if
Speaker 2: it's like five six in the morning, I'm like, man,
Speaker 2: I'll just do it in the morning, right, But like
Speaker 2: if it's maybe if it's me and that, I'm like, hey,
Speaker 2: man up, let's let's let's do it.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: So eighteen thousand unreleased songs? What I mean, how do
Speaker 1: you how do you get to eight? How do you
Speaker 1: get to like a hundred? Okay, if somebody said, you know,
Speaker 1: I got like twenty, I got fifty unreleased songs, but
Speaker 1: you saying, like in some of your apps, you have
Speaker 1: eighteen hundreds. So you just like like go days, months, years,
Speaker 1: Well you just record?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I literally recorded like four songs yesterday, but I did,
Speaker 2: like I do it in spurts, So sometimes some days
Speaker 2: I'll just relax.
Speaker 3: I might do one song, but then some.
Speaker 2: Days it's just like we just because I feel like
Speaker 2: it's like sharpening your sword man, like being better at
Speaker 2: your craft, like.
Speaker 3: Shooting jump getting your jump shot.
Speaker 2: So like, I feel like I don't want to be
Speaker 2: complacent and thinking I'm I got it all figured out.
Speaker 2: I never want to think that, Oh, I'm Chris Brown.
Speaker 2: So whatever I'll put out it's gonna be great. I
Speaker 2: want to make sure it is.
Speaker 1: You know, are there any songs that you wrote for
Speaker 1: an artist that if people actually knew you wrote it,
Speaker 1: they would be surprised?
Speaker 2: I think back in the day they did. I wrote
Speaker 2: a I wrote a a couple of pop records. I
Speaker 2: wrote a couple of Jonas Brothers songs.
Speaker 3: I wrote a couple uh well, I wrote a couple
Speaker 3: of Rihanna songs. Uh damn. I do a couple of
Speaker 3: country country records.
Speaker 2: I used to write a lot for for a lot
Speaker 2: of different artists, but it was more it was more
Speaker 2: so me experimenting with with what music was like. I
Speaker 2: wasn't just doing R and b so I would just write.
Speaker 3: But I but I've.
Speaker 2: LaToya lucky I've written for. There's been it's been a
Speaker 2: lot of people I've written for. But I feel like
Speaker 2: a lot of people didn't know I really write because
Speaker 2: as an artist, you know, you get a lot of
Speaker 2: a lot of uh you know, a lot of artists
Speaker 2: that music artists that don't do them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but and I I can't.
Speaker 2: I can't shun them because I work with a lot
Speaker 2: of producers, a lot of writers, and we do different things.
Speaker 2: But I've also had time to sit down and just
Speaker 2: really have my own songs that people are love and I'm.
Speaker 3: Like, I'm glad they love that I wrote that song.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: So yeah, what what's your favorite music genre?
Speaker 3: Is the pop?
Speaker 5: Is R and b uh dance, euro rap?
Speaker 3: I'm eclectic.
Speaker 2: I'm eclectic, So I like I like certain songs, Like
Speaker 2: I think, when the song comes out and it just
Speaker 2: m it moves me, I I just like it. It
Speaker 2: cul It could be a country song, it could be
Speaker 2: our piano song, it could be uh a heavy metal song,
Speaker 2: Like you know, I think, I just think whatever whatever
Speaker 2: frequency that that tunes me to it is is is
Speaker 2: what I what I kind of gravitate to. In my
Speaker 2: lane of my music, I love doing. I just love
Speaker 2: doing feel good music, fun music.
Speaker 3: Music.
Speaker 2: People can dance too, But at the same time, give 'em,
Speaker 2: give them certain s s things that get them through
Speaker 2: their life.
Speaker 3: Cause I cause I'll see a lot of my fans
Speaker 3: or I talk to.
Speaker 2: 'em, whether it's meet and grease, whether it's discord or
Speaker 2: whatever it is, and we talking and it's like they
Speaker 2: they explain to me how certain songs got them through
Speaker 2: life situations, and and I'm like, wow, that really it
Speaker 2: kind of sinks in with me. It makes me makes
Speaker 2: me kind of like dang, I I'm I'm really doing
Speaker 2: the music.
Speaker 3: For it actual purpose.
Speaker 2: So when I do certain songs speak from my experience,
Speaker 2: but also try to speak to uplift somebody, make them
Speaker 2: have fun or make them be like, man, this makes
Speaker 2: you makes me feel good inside.
Speaker 1: Are there any features that you turned down? You was like, damn,
Speaker 1: I should have hopped on that one.
Speaker 3: Any features that I turned down? A lot? No, I
Speaker 3: ain't gonna lie. I'm on a lot of features.
Speaker 2: I feel like, I feel like it's certain songs that
Speaker 2: I wish that I was on.
Speaker 3: When I would hear certain songs.
Speaker 2: But then I would be like, that's just that's just
Speaker 2: my artist ego wanted to be a part of it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but but I feel like I feel like evens there's
Speaker 2: certain records out now that I'll.
Speaker 3: Hear and I'm like, man, that's amazing.
Speaker 2: But but I think that's that's good for me because
Speaker 2: I'm not I don't think I get convoluted in what
Speaker 2: I sound like. I'm able to appreciate other people music,
Speaker 2: and I'd be like, oh, it's just only about me.
Speaker 5: Have you ever been removed from a song after it's
Speaker 5: been recorded?
Speaker 3: I don't think so.
Speaker 5: Have you removed somebody from a song after it's been recorded?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 5: So, so how do you how do you go about?
Speaker 1: How do you go about telling them or telling him
Speaker 1: or her that their verse is gonna make it?
Speaker 3: Man? Uh?
Speaker 1: Do you tell them? When you have somebody else call
Speaker 1: and tell him. I think it'd be better coming from you.
Speaker 2: Though, Yeah, I would tell him. I would tell him
Speaker 2: I've done I've done songs.
Speaker 3: Uh, Like, even even with my I ain't gonna say
Speaker 3: their names.
Speaker 2: Certain artists that that that are that are like real
Speaker 2: friends with me, and we've done songs. But I may
Speaker 2: have I may have had like two songs already with them.
Speaker 2: I'm like, look, I ain't you I ain't gonna'm gonna
Speaker 2: take you off this one because we already got this
Speaker 2: other song, you know, So I've done that.
Speaker 5: But then that's the way, that's what you tell them.
Speaker 2: No, No, that's been the reason. But the other ones
Speaker 2: that got taken off just to get taken off.
Speaker 3: It just didn't fit.
Speaker 2: It didn't fit the record, and I felt like the
Speaker 2: time in with it, and we just I'll explain it
Speaker 2: to him and I'll be like, look, it just doesn't
Speaker 2: fit the time in for for what we're doing and
Speaker 2: how we want to shoot the record. But I haven't
Speaker 2: let down too many people. That down too many people.
Speaker 3: You're a fit guy. You in the train, you like
Speaker 3: to work out.
Speaker 1: So what do you do? So, so what do you
Speaker 1: do you on tour? How does Chris Brown manage to
Speaker 1: stay in shape? Because you gotta get you you're a performer.
Speaker 1: You're not just a singer. You're a performer. You're an entertainer.
Speaker 1: Let me take that back. You're an entertainer. So singing
Speaker 1: and dancing, that's a part of the act. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: how do you maintain that level night after night after night,
Speaker 1: week after week after month after month.
Speaker 3: Man, I just think I got more, uh more.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, my team, man, I think
Speaker 2: everybody keeps a tight schedule when it comes to what
Speaker 2: we're doing on the road.
Speaker 3: Right, our chef make sure we eat the right stuff.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't try to eat stuff that's gonna see heavy.
Speaker 2: I want to see anything that builds my protein up,
Speaker 2: just builds my addurance. That's what I'm on you. I'm
Speaker 2: really and I'm really uh, I'm finicky about it, like
Speaker 2: because we also have after parties after shows on tourists.
Speaker 3: It's a long road.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, I make sure I at
Speaker 2: least get my eight hours of sleep, right, So the
Speaker 2: rest is that me and my dancers that workout is
Speaker 2: like no, man, So.
Speaker 3: You know we got our workout regimen.
Speaker 2: We do our like fifteen to thirty minute a flash
Speaker 2: set before we go, before we get on stage, and
Speaker 2: then and then repeat it over and over, right, So
Speaker 2: I've been able to have this fast metabolism.
Speaker 3: Hopefully it never slows up.
Speaker 5: I'm just trying to figure out, how do you protect
Speaker 5: your voice with me?
Speaker 3: Well, I wouldn't I wouldn't advise this to everybody else
Speaker 3: because I do.
Speaker 2: I do smoke every now and then a lot. But
Speaker 2: for me, I have that I use these there's there's
Speaker 2: these pills the call mullet Mulon pills.
Speaker 3: They're good for your for your lungs.
Speaker 2: So and I make sure that I'm not just smoking
Speaker 2: smoking smoking before I go on stage. So a lot
Speaker 2: of the times i'm whenever I am smoking, I'm doing
Speaker 2: something that counteracted. I'm making sure i'm t and vocal
Speaker 2: rest is the best. Like like I'm yelling on stage
Speaker 2: two and a half hours, right.
Speaker 3: You know, so after that, chill out, after that, right,
Speaker 3: say what's up? Bro? Cool?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: I try to I try to refrain from doing anything
Speaker 2: that's gonna put too much of a strain on my book.
Speaker 5: What I have to applaud, bro, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean I have to go back to like James Brown,
Speaker 1: to see somebody to sing.
Speaker 5: And perform like you think. I mean, it's continuous, it's NonStop.
Speaker 1: I mean I first, when the first time I ever
Speaker 1: heard of Chris Brown, I heard you say something like,
Speaker 1: oh I can I dance?
Speaker 5: USh?
Speaker 1: I said, man, this man, this damn About thirteen he
Speaker 1: already liked who talked this man a lot like this
Speaker 1: at thirteen?
Speaker 5: And then I watched it. I like, and then you like,
Speaker 5: I might get my Michael. I was like, I don't know,
Speaker 5: he might.
Speaker 1: I mean to see the way he moved, man, and
Speaker 1: the way he can adore his body.
Speaker 5: I don't know, he might be on the something. How
Speaker 5: when did you learn to do that?
Speaker 3: I watched that. That's being a kid at the cookout. Man.
Speaker 3: Your uncle's like, come man, come out here, man, do that?
Speaker 3: Do that dance you'd be doing.
Speaker 2: So I feel like, uh, my childhood gave me that
Speaker 2: freedom to really, like you know, be from mc Hammer.
Speaker 3: Watching mc ham Michael Jackson.
Speaker 2: I always was moving and I had a fascination in
Speaker 2: love with with rhythms. So I feel like, you know,
Speaker 2: even even in sports, you gotta have the rhythm, right,
Speaker 2: So so that just was like natural to me. It
Speaker 2: came natural. I feel like it's from the soul.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So I feel like.
Speaker 2: Even even dancing now, like I can learn technical stuff.
Speaker 2: I can learn stuff, but I like to just I
Speaker 2: like when people to see it to be like that
Speaker 2: feel good he having fun doing it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you do realize that a lot of the
Speaker 1: stuff you do they can't do right, Like you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, you like the only one that can
Speaker 1: do that do it? Yeah, I mean I like to
Speaker 1: see a dance like you. Okay, you move, walk, okay, breakdown.
Speaker 1: I mean you do a little breakdancing, but a lot
Speaker 1: of the stuff that you be doing rib like, man,
Speaker 1: people gonna break their neck.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't invite people to try some of the
Speaker 2: stuff I do. That's why it's good to just see
Speaker 2: it at the show. Kids, y'all can have fun. Y'all
Speaker 2: a little bit more flexible. But at the same time,
Speaker 2: like I just I'm thankful to be able to still
Speaker 2: have these needs to be Yeah, and I don't get.
Speaker 3: Up like, oh man, I'm tired. I gotta go dance.
Speaker 2: I love it right, So, so as long as I'm
Speaker 2: able and God blesses me to be able to dance
Speaker 2: and showcase this talent and hopefully inspired the world, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna keep doing it.
Speaker 1: Why don't you think other artists have adopted your approach
Speaker 1: to become performance? I mean, sometimes you see performers or
Speaker 1: you see like singers. I mean, there's nothing wrong. I mean,
Speaker 1: but I look at you as an entertainer. I look
Speaker 1: at Beyonces, but their singers. Dan was a singer. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you got a mermaid dress on. She on that Mic
Speaker 1: I saw. I saw the observatory unbelievable. But I saw
Speaker 1: Beyonce and I'm like, how should you do that? For
Speaker 1: two hours?
Speaker 5: I watch you? I'm like, he do that for two hours?
Speaker 2: I think, I think because you know, different, I think
Speaker 2: it's different stars. Man, it's different stars in the sky.
Speaker 2: So I kind of I kind of my take on
Speaker 2: it is everybody has their thing, right, you know.
Speaker 3: I feel like in our in our genre, it's it's
Speaker 3: a it's like an old art.
Speaker 2: But you know, because you got to really do your researcher,
Speaker 2: you got to really, you know, want it.
Speaker 3: And I think Beyonce, I gott always give her a credit.
Speaker 3: She wants it. She has always wanted it, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So and she is it. You know.
Speaker 3: I feel like with me, I've always I've always wanted it.
Speaker 2: I always wanted to leave a legacy of of of being.
Speaker 3: One of the baddest. You know, I don't got to
Speaker 3: be the baddest, but I'm gonna be one of them.
Speaker 1: You know, what does it make you feel like when
Speaker 1: other artists come up to you and say, Braud, that
Speaker 1: was unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Form, I'm still in shot, like I have an imposter syndrome.
Speaker 3: I wake up to this day and be like, am
Speaker 3: I how did I get here?
Speaker 2: Like so when people even ignore, I'm more receptive and appreciative.
Speaker 2: I'm kind of like, for real, Okay, cool, they like
Speaker 2: my stuff. I'm still fans of other artists. It's like,
Speaker 2: so it's still me being like, Okay, they really love
Speaker 2: what I'm doing, right, I'm gonna keep doing it right
Speaker 2: all right.
Speaker 5: When you first started out, you used to open up
Speaker 5: for Beyonce.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you like you know that. I would try to
Speaker 1: swipe some of her fan. I walks over her fan
Speaker 1: because I know what she's gonna do after me. Man,
Speaker 1: I need to make sure I do something before so
Speaker 1: them people talk about.
Speaker 5: Yeah Beyonce, it was great, but you should have saw
Speaker 5: Chris Brown. Chris Brown was unbelievable.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I was a student being on there. I
Speaker 3: was with Destiny Shot. I think I was like sixteen
Speaker 3: or seventeen. I opened up for.
Speaker 2: Them in Australia and for that that was just a
Speaker 2: blessing because to be able to go from me having
Speaker 2: a little TV and me watching these people performing and
Speaker 2: being able to see them and they're like, hi.
Speaker 3: They know my name.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, they said hi to me
Speaker 2: watching them perform from stage, presence, lighting.
Speaker 3: Production, dancers, timing.
Speaker 2: I learned so much from all of those experiences, and
Speaker 2: I soaked it up and I said, well, I don't
Speaker 2: want to copy anybody, but okay, well if I could
Speaker 2: do that, I'll do it like this. So I was
Speaker 2: able to digest and and and and learn from from
Speaker 2: all those experiences. So it was it was actually a blessing.
Speaker 2: It was a blessing.
Speaker 1: I had Drew Skale on my show and he said
Speaker 1: he would on tour with you. He said, it's unbelievable
Speaker 1: the amount of distractions that's going on, like girls just
Speaker 1: running everywhere.
Speaker 5: With your laser focus on what you need to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because because because I look at it, like these
Speaker 2: people spending money to come see me, like even to
Speaker 2: this day, like you spend a ticket or whatever for
Speaker 2: your family coming through with your it's kids, there's grown
Speaker 2: people there, it's all ages.
Speaker 3: But the one thing.
Speaker 2: I need them to do is leave happy. I need
Speaker 2: them to leave, not not for my pockets. You know,
Speaker 2: they need to leave happy for my soul. Like this
Speaker 2: this ability that I'm made able to have, or this
Speaker 2: this talent that I'm going with, I want to express
Speaker 2: it with love the frequency I want to give out
Speaker 2: his love. So like that's what gets me going. And
Speaker 2: when they when they get coming here, I'm excited.
Speaker 3: I'm more nervous than they is.
Speaker 2: So but but I'm gonna make sure that they gonna
Speaker 2: leave and be like, you know what I got my
Speaker 2: money's worth?
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: I read that you this guy broke up with his girl.
Speaker 1: You call this girl up on stage and gave the lady,
Speaker 1: gave the young lady a lap bad and he broke
Speaker 1: up with a prie.
Speaker 3: You do that man. See it wasn't intentional, but happen.
Speaker 3: See I didn't know she had a had a had
Speaker 3: a guy.
Speaker 5: That's her fault. Because she knows she had a guy.
Speaker 3: She should have said it.
Speaker 2: She definitely should have said my My dancers pull up
Speaker 2: a girl on stage during our set, and we usually
Speaker 2: we just we usually like to give the fans an opportunity.
Speaker 3: But sometimes it's very very very.
Speaker 2: Attractive women come and say so I'm like, okay, cool.
Speaker 2: So me grinding on him. They don't really have a
Speaker 2: problem with it. It's just I guess she had a
Speaker 2: man there, right, So but I didn't know. I didn't
Speaker 2: find out that. Afterwards. I was like, man, we should
Speaker 2: have just do we send him flowers or sending her flowers?
Speaker 1: Should said no, see, I mean not that, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: the lady. See, if I'm out with a young lady,
Speaker 1: it's not my job to check the guy.
Speaker 5: It's her job.
Speaker 3: She should have been like, no, you know, there you go,
Speaker 3: and I can't come up.
Speaker 5: I'm with someone, right, And if a lady check on me,
Speaker 5: if you're not gonna be forget it there you be
Speaker 5: like okay, great, right, and you'd have been okay, but.
Speaker 1: He gonna he the one man. But I'm surprised. First
Speaker 1: of all, I commend him for going.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean not a whole lot of guys are
Speaker 5: going with the girls that they might.
Speaker 3: Go, but.
Speaker 2: They might be a little bit further back, like, nah,
Speaker 2: you ain't getting from right, he's not finna look at.
Speaker 1: You at let's talk about I'm looking at the Grammys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you have one. But reading you and researching this,
Speaker 1: you feel you should have.
Speaker 3: Yes, I feel like a lot of artists feel like
Speaker 3: they should have one.
Speaker 2: Uh, But you know, I feel like I don't want
Speaker 2: to discredited Grammys or discimins or feel like the angry
Speaker 2: artist when it comes to that.
Speaker 5: I feel like he will be the first, he will
Speaker 5: be the last.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like it's just I feel like music
Speaker 2: out of state right now is it's not based on
Speaker 2: what people love. I feel like I feel like, well
Speaker 2: with the Grammys, no disrespect to y'all, but I just
Speaker 2: feel like it's a lot of old ears over there,
Speaker 2: a lot of old ears. There's a lot of people
Speaker 2: that's that's not really too th into what's going on.
Speaker 2: So and and you know, it's just it's a broad
Speaker 2: range of artists that I that I can think of
Speaker 2: now that that deserve more Grammys and more recognition. But
Speaker 2: you know, I feel like at this point in my
Speaker 2: in my career, in my life, I'm like, you know what.
Speaker 3: I have one? Right, that's good enough? You know for me,
Speaker 3: I feel like.
Speaker 2: He lonely, though he could be lonely, but but he
Speaker 2: could be lonely. I'd rather mind what what I get,
Speaker 2: what I get my joy from is feeling them stands
Speaker 2: like I could care less about getting on the stage
Speaker 2: where I would love to get on the stage at
Speaker 2: a Grammys or any awards.
Speaker 3: I don't have a problem with it.
Speaker 2: But it doesn't feel my heart more than it does
Speaker 2: to see twice as many people in a a in
Speaker 2: an arena, or I'll go over and I sell out
Speaker 2: six nights like that.
Speaker 3: That's priceless to me.
Speaker 2: Right, So I feel like I've just started loving what
Speaker 2: I love the most about what I do, just.
Speaker 3: The music and the passion, and just focused on that.
Speaker 1: You caught some flat because you wrote Robert Glasper you say,
Speaker 1: who is this cat?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And I mean he did the single the song with
Speaker 1: Michelle and Diegoceello, who's my favorite all time artist and
Speaker 1: her great song, and you you know, you say no disrespect.
Speaker 5: You took it back. Tell me what your mindset was. Okay,
Speaker 5: you're sitting at home, impulse. So that's where hold up?
Speaker 5: Who the homeboy?
Speaker 1: He give me that because you about to do something,
Speaker 1: You about to do something, Give me that and put
Speaker 1: it in.
Speaker 5: His back pocket.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: They probably was maybe fifteen seconds to letter by that time,
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 3: But at the time, because me, I was missing for him.
Speaker 2: So even even when I had to I had to
Speaker 2: do my research and like, you know what this these guys,
Speaker 2: you know, and I reached out to him. I said, look,
Speaker 2: I said, look, I don't want you to think that
Speaker 2: I have ill ill will towards.
Speaker 3: You or anything. Be sure work.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So so he reached back out to me. So, yeah,
Speaker 3: we're gonna, were gonna get in the studio work. But
Speaker 3: that was me. That's you know, being a sorro push.
Speaker 1: You know, are you disappointed that the award shows, given
Speaker 1: your background, given what you've done, given how you packed
Speaker 1: the arenas, given how the numbers speak more than Elvis
Speaker 1: and a.
Speaker 5: Billion this and that, Yeah, that they haven't allowed you.
Speaker 2: To perform at times you want her to perform in
Speaker 2: front of your peers. I want to showcase what I
Speaker 2: what I'm really capable of at all times. But I've
Speaker 2: taken I've taken my position to say I'm not stopping right.
Speaker 3: You know, So it'll happen. It'll happen, you know, it'll happen.
Speaker 5: Do you remember the last award show you performed at?
Speaker 2: My last awards show might have been BT last show
Speaker 2: might have been BT Awards.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Kelly rolled supported you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, she got some criticism.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love you, Kelly. I mean, what's I mean, Lizzo? Yeah,
Speaker 1: say your favorite criticism and cheering. Some others have come
Speaker 1: to your like the man is unbelievable and they call criticism.
Speaker 1: What is it with this cancel culture?
Speaker 2: I think it's I don't think it's even the cancel culture.
Speaker 2: I think because my my fans and the people who
Speaker 2: who do love me, like they.
Speaker 3: Kind of overshadow and I'm still here, you know. But
Speaker 3: I feel like I just feel like people are sensitive
Speaker 3: as hell today.
Speaker 2: Man, Like we don't get we don't get to really
Speaker 2: shoot the ship, or we don't get to say what
Speaker 2: we really want to say. A lot of times, a
Speaker 2: lot of things. It's contrive to conform. You don't get
Speaker 2: to be yourself because you can't have it. And open
Speaker 2: expression and freedom freedom to say anything if you don't
Speaker 2: have to discredit anybody or or cut anybody out, or
Speaker 2: say anything rude about anybody. But I feel like everybody's
Speaker 2: too dairmb sensitive at this point, right.
Speaker 1: But you've mentioned some of the people that that's in
Speaker 1: this business, Yeah, that have had some transgressions, Yeah, that
Speaker 1: have been forgiven and gone onto. And it hasn't stopped
Speaker 1: you from making money. But those people were able to
Speaker 1: go back, be on stage, get in movies, and do
Speaker 1: all these other things.
Speaker 2: It's my smile, and I think I think it's I
Speaker 2: think it's because I think people think I have a
Speaker 2: careless outlook on it.
Speaker 3: It's not that I have a careless outlet.
Speaker 2: I don't care to make you believe that I'm a
Speaker 2: I'm a great person or a good person.
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna be one. So I feel like with that, you.
Speaker 2: Know, I mean, and I don't take no nonsense. I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm I'm a humble guy. I'll be cool, but I
Speaker 2: really don't. I really don't take nonsense. I try to
Speaker 2: stay in my lane, get out the way, don't bother nobody.
Speaker 2: But I'm not gonna take no nonsense.
Speaker 1: If you were to get back, if if they called,
Speaker 1: and says Chris this year's grammysh we want you to perform.
Speaker 3: Yeah you there, of course I do it.
Speaker 5: No, ill Will.
Speaker 2: It wouldn't be ill Will because because it would be
Speaker 2: about the performance. I would want, I would want to
Speaker 2: get that to my fans. It wouldn't be it wouldn't
Speaker 2: be necessarily about the Grammys. It would be about putting
Speaker 2: on the best.
Speaker 3: Chris and just and just and just going out there
Speaker 3: and doing that.
Speaker 5: You'll kill it.
Speaker 1: This This might be the greatest book, This might be
Speaker 1: the greatest stage performance.
Speaker 5: Anybody's ever seen.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna try to make it that every time,
Speaker 2: every time, anytime that opportunity gives, like gives itself that opportunity, even.
Speaker 3: On my on my when you come to my shows,
Speaker 3: I want.
Speaker 2: To make it like you're you're watching it on an
Speaker 2: award show. I want it needs to be theater. It
Speaker 2: needs to be needs to be fun.
Speaker 5: When you try to leave, you try to the fan.
Speaker 1: You want the fan to leave, said, I've never seen
Speaker 1: anybody do that before.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, every absolutely. I want to do that every time.
Speaker 2: And and just like I said, give them that joy
Speaker 2: and give them that uh that it factor.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to I'm trying to be the greatest to
Speaker 3: do it while I still can do it.
Speaker 5: When they say R and B is dead, Chris Brown says, what.
Speaker 2: It's not, it's not just hip hop is is more prevalent.
Speaker 2: I would just say hip hop is has has been influential.
Speaker 3: Over the over the whole world. But I feel like
Speaker 3: R and B.
Speaker 2: R and B has has its place, and there's a
Speaker 2: lot of there's a lot of R and B artists
Speaker 2: out because I don't want to discredit it. It's a
Speaker 2: lot of great R and B female wise and male wise.
Speaker 2: I just feel like we just have to have platforms.
Speaker 2: I feel like we need.
Speaker 3: Bigger platforms to show music videos. I think we need
Speaker 3: not just for R and B, just for music period.
Speaker 2: Like we used to have one on six in part,
Speaker 2: you know, we used to have have outlets to where
Speaker 2: people would be engaged and have to see you at
Speaker 2: a certain time and have to be invested in your
Speaker 2: music and certain things like that.
Speaker 3: There's other avenues like that on the internet.
Speaker 1: But Tyler Perry did by just just by BT, so
Speaker 1: maybe he'll he'll bring one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Let us let us start showcasing new artists, new talent
Speaker 2: so people can and so everybody just have to go
Speaker 2: find an artists, like, like, let these talented artists be broadcasted,
Speaker 2: like let them, let them, let them wrong.
Speaker 3: I feel like it's it's needed.
Speaker 2: I feel like I go to flip through my channels
Speaker 2: unless I have to type in the name of the artists.
Speaker 2: It's cool, but I would like to be presented with
Speaker 2: artists like, oh man, that's that's tight.
Speaker 3: Who is that guy?
Speaker 5: How do we get R and B? Will R and
Speaker 5: B ever be what it once was?
Speaker 1: Because I was talking Timberland, I thought I think it
Speaker 1: was Timberland, and he says, I don't think it to
Speaker 1: be at the height it once was.
Speaker 2: The R It depends because because everything shifts, there's always
Speaker 2: a shift in music. Uh so, so it just depends
Speaker 2: on the right artist, depends on the right the right timing,
Speaker 2: the season, what the world is, what the state of the.
Speaker 3: World is, what people are going through.
Speaker 2: Like, you know, music, music, especially R and B come
Speaker 2: from pain, a lot of pain.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of pain on on the world.
Speaker 2: But I think we're trying to I think right there,
Speaker 2: everybody's trying to kind of like Negate that trying to
Speaker 2: be like.
Speaker 3: You know what, Hey, I just want to feel better.
Speaker 2: I want to talk about substances and records and whatever
Speaker 2: crazy stuff it is.
Speaker 3: But I think I think I think it has it's
Speaker 3: gonna be time for it.
Speaker 5: What's your thought on AI you like it?
Speaker 3: It's yeah, I'm kind of, oh, I'm kind of I'm
Speaker 3: kind of uh, I'm.
Speaker 2: Fifty to fifty because the capabilities of the scientific community.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 1: You know, they can make me sound like Chris Brown.
Speaker 1: That's crazy, and then they won't need real Chris Brown. See,
Speaker 1: I can play your half of that.
Speaker 2: I said this, this, this, This is what I said
Speaker 2: if I heard it when I hear when I hear
Speaker 2: the AI version of Chris Brown, and it's just a
Speaker 2: complete song, and it's a great song. I'm gonna figure
Speaker 2: out if we're gonna license our voices out right, because
Speaker 2: I know I'm not going to be the one to
Speaker 2: do it, but there's gonna be an artist that's the
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, that's me, that's me, right, and they
Speaker 2: just and they're gonna they're gonna benefit from it.
Speaker 3: But I'm fifty to fifty.
Speaker 2: I feel like it takes away a lot of the
Speaker 2: the mystery or the artistry that makes you a beautiful artist.
Speaker 3: Right, if you could just have challenge beauty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's crazy, but I feel like I'm still
Speaker 2: I'm in this technological world too, so I'm fascinated with
Speaker 2: it as well.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm gonna get you out here on these
Speaker 5: two right here.
Speaker 1: You're a very good businessman, reported that you own fourteen
Speaker 1: Burger Kings. How are you able to become so business
Speaker 1: savage at such a young age.
Speaker 2: My team, my team, I've been able to have a
Speaker 2: great team that you know, I've been through my ups
Speaker 2: and downs, Like I felt a lot financially in the beginning.
Speaker 2: Just you know, uh, you make mistakes, yeah, you know.
Speaker 2: But now it's about it's about just trying to.
Speaker 3: I want to.
Speaker 2: I want to create stuff that's going to create stuff,
Speaker 2: you know, right.
Speaker 3: I want to be able.
Speaker 2: To have stuff that's going to be here for everybody,
Speaker 2: for rajevity, so and it doesn't necessari have to be
Speaker 2: titled around uh my actual name or brand. I just
Speaker 2: want to be able to have a legacy for my
Speaker 2: for my family outside of music, you know, I want to.
Speaker 3: I want to be wealthy instead of rich.
Speaker 1: You know. Okay, your catalogs, that seems to be a
Speaker 1: big You own your masters. Yeah, and you were one
Speaker 1: of the youngest to ever do that at the age
Speaker 1: of twenty nine.
Speaker 5: Would you ever?
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of you see a lot of
Speaker 1: artists selling the catalog Is that's something Chris Brown would
Speaker 1: look to do in the future.
Speaker 2: I don't know, It depends it depends on I would.
Speaker 2: I don't think I would sell them. I think I might,
Speaker 2: I might do least them out and stuff like that later,
Speaker 2: but I don't think. I don't think I would because
Speaker 2: I feel like, as a black artist, that's that's what
Speaker 2: we've been wanting forever to be able to get that
Speaker 2: get our masters right. So so for me to be
Speaker 2: able to do that, like and be one of the
Speaker 2: first young cats to do it, like it's like, oh my,
Speaker 2: I beat the game. But I feel like I feel
Speaker 2: like I wouldn't. I wouldn't do it at this point
Speaker 2: because that's that's something my my children's children's children can
Speaker 2: eat off, you know.
Speaker 3: So I think I'm a temper.
Speaker 5: The story by jockeys, jacque said he came to a head.
Speaker 5: He lived in the crib. Yeah so so so Jock.
Speaker 3: He's been around me since he was teenagers bracest everything. Uh.
Speaker 2: I've seen Jacqueze's videos through through mutual friends.
Speaker 3: That we knew, and I knew that he was a
Speaker 3: fan of me, and I'm not. I'm not like if
Speaker 3: I see talent and I see and I see the
Speaker 3: same spunk that I had in my eye. But I
Speaker 3: was like, you know, what this.
Speaker 2: This kid is really really talented. So he came to
Speaker 2: l A for like a week he was staying. He
Speaker 2: was staying at a hotel. I was like, bro, why
Speaker 2: you waste your money at the hotel? The people we
Speaker 2: both know they had my crib.
Speaker 3: We chill him. You good, bro, It ain't no it's
Speaker 3: no no parents at the house gonna tell you what
Speaker 3: to do. Come to the house. But so I just
Speaker 3: showed him the ropes like he was.
Speaker 2: He was around and he was able to He was
Speaker 2: able to learn from me in the studio as well,
Speaker 2: Like like so I would be in a studio with
Speaker 2: him and just teach stuff.
Speaker 3: He was actually like, big bro, what's this? Is this
Speaker 3: cool to do? This is not cool to do? And
Speaker 3: I would just I would just telling him, hey, bro,
Speaker 3: don't don't do this.
Speaker 2: Don't do what they doing. That's that's fine, you know.
Speaker 2: So a lot of the things with John Cueze's it's
Speaker 2: real family. So when I see him do his thing
Speaker 2: and where he's at now, I'm proud of him, man,
Speaker 2: because because I saw the grind before before everybody else saw.
Speaker 1: You know, I had Timberlon. I'm get you out of him.
Speaker 1: This one he said he got some great advice from you.
Speaker 1: He said, uh, you called him and said, bro, don't
Speaker 1: do any more interviews. High You remember that conversation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah because me, because you know Tims
Speaker 2: Timmys is.
Speaker 3: So I learned so much from him. But I remember,
Speaker 3: you know, I love I love weed, so so we
Speaker 3: used to smoke a lot of time. And then I
Speaker 3: just remember seeing them on that's a don't do that
Speaker 3: that well, don't do that. We can't do it. It's
Speaker 3: not it's not a good it's not a good look.
Speaker 3: It's not a good look.
Speaker 1: You got a new sing single, the new singers out
Speaker 1: summer to Yeah, eleven sol album, leven solo album is
Speaker 1: on the way. Yeah, what can your fans? What can
Speaker 1: we expect from Chris Brown on this album? Less songs,
Speaker 1: less songs?
Speaker 3: Yes, only only saying that my fans good. I mean
Speaker 3: because I'm used to putting.
Speaker 2: I think my last album had like thirty something songs.
Speaker 2: The one before that had like fifty six.
Speaker 3: Like, so it's a lot.
Speaker 5: Can we get like twelve thirteen?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the albums.
Speaker 2: The album's gonna be called eleven eleven, right, it's my
Speaker 2: eleventh album and it's only gonna have eleven songs.
Speaker 3: Right, so but eleven eleven is gonna be released in November.
Speaker 2: No, we're trying to figure it out. Possibly, but we're
Speaker 2: trying to figure it out now right. As of now,
Speaker 2: I'm still in the studio. We got a lot of
Speaker 2: good records that I've been cutting and in the new song,
Speaker 2: I just put it. I just put that out basically
Speaker 2: to just have something for the summer. Have people haven't
Speaker 2: feeling good again, because I know it's about to start
Speaker 2: getting hot hot out here, so let's just have fun.
Speaker 2: I'm you know the videos coming, were about to dance
Speaker 2: about the dance, about the dance again on them.
Speaker 1: Congratulations with all they success, y'all. Thank you performing at
Speaker 1: DRE on the twenty nine.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Fight, Yeah, you're gonna be in the fight.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be at the fight.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, i' gonna be that too. So yeah, we
Speaker 3: got a link up man. Thank you, brother, Congratulations of
Speaker 3: all these success.
Speaker 5: Thank you for having me, God blessed brother. Thank you, brother,
Speaker 5: Chris Brown.
Speaker 4: All my life, grinding all my life, sacrifice, hustle, bad
Speaker 4: the price, want slice got the brother all my life.
Speaker 5: I've been grinding all my life, all my life, grinding all.
Speaker 4: My life, sacrifice, hustle, bad to price, one slice, not
Speaker 4: the brother, all my life.
Speaker 5: I've been grinding all my life.