1 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 1: If you are one of the lucky ones who got 2 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: loved your relationship marriage right the first time, then this 3 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: show ain't for you. Welcome to I Do Part two, 4 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: where your hosts today have said I do eight times 5 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:36,279 Speaker 1: between the three of us. 6 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 2: Eight. 7 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: How was that for an intro? Janna Kramer, Listen, j I. 8 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 3: Feel very targeted and you're not. 9 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 4: You should just feel seen, Jenny, thank. 10 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 1: You because on this end down here with TJ Holmes, hello, 11 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: and Amy Robot four I dos down here as well, 12 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: and a fifth in the making. We should argue on 13 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: this end possibly, So yes, I'm not targeting Rush right, 14 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: I'm not targeting, but welcome everybody. So Jana, we have 15 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: to say, is so good to have you in studio. 16 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: Jena is here with us in New York. 17 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 3: I love New York, you guys. This is such a 18 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 3: fun city. It's so great. And here with the beautiful Kelly. 19 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 3: I mean, this is this is awesome. 20 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 5: Yes, we have what we should mention. We have the 21 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 5: amazing Kelly ben Simone. Right, did I say your name correctly? 22 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 1: All right? 23 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 5: Kelly ben Simone is in the house here and she 24 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 5: is going to be We mentioned this in the first 25 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 5: episode one of our celebrity mentors. 26 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 4: Are you prepared to mentor us, Kelly? 27 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 2: I hope so. I'm working on it one day at 28 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 2: a time. 29 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:43,119 Speaker 1: But Kelly, people coming to you for relationship advice more 30 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: so now than they used to. 31 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 2: I mean, in the past month and a half, I've 32 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 2: become like the relationship group. Wow, everybody's asking me for advice, 33 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 2: which has been really, really sweet. But it's also like 34 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 2: bittersweet because I'm just like I hope I say the 35 00:01:58,960 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: right thing. 36 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 5: Well, well, you always say the right thing in the 37 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 5: right moment because it's authentic. And I think at some 38 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 5: point we were talking about that authenticity is a big 39 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:10,399 Speaker 5: part of reality TV and sometimes it's not. But You've 40 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 5: always been the one who speaks her mind always, And 41 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:14,679 Speaker 5: for those who need an introduction, I don't think many 42 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 5: people do. But you obviously hopefully remember Kelly from The 43 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 5: Real Housewives of New York and Ultimate Girls Trip and 44 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 5: recently making headlines for ending a wedding to be four 45 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 5: days before the nuptials were set to actually take place, 46 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 5: all because your fiance wouldn't sign a prenum. Is that 47 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 5: the only reason why the wedding was. 48 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 2: Called the only reason. 49 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 3: How long are you guys actually together because at the 50 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 3: first time, the first thing that I read, because well 51 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 3: I thought, I was like, wow, that's so powerful and 52 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 3: that's you know, like more power to her. But then 53 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 3: I was also like, that makes me sad for her 54 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 3: because how long was the relationship? Like that must have 55 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 3: been really hard to part from that. 56 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean we were together for over a 57 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 2: year and a half and I you know, everyone's like, 58 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 2: you're a runaway bride. I actually ran to myself. You know. 59 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 2: It was a very crowded, messy environment on his part 60 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 2: with ex wives and all these kids, and I love children, 61 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 2: but it was just like very, very, very messy, and 62 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 2: I just couldn't handle all of that. You know, I'm 63 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 2: very neat my girls. I raised my girls on my own. 64 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 2: I provided for them, educated them, like I'm like the 65 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 2: mama bear of all mama bears. And to see like 66 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 2: all this chaos all the time was just like not 67 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 2: for me. Coupled with the fact that you know, I'm 68 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 2: the daughter of a lawyer and if I'm going to 69 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 2: get married again, I mean I've been single for so long, 70 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 2: not because I am like single, like you know, someone 71 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 2: like they're like, well, you're single, I'm like, well, I'm 72 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 2: not like single, like out there like, oh my god, 73 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 2: I'm single. I'm single, introduced me, introduced me. I'm just 74 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 2: not married. 75 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 4: You know, there's the difference. 76 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 2: There is a total difference. 77 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 5: Your divorced, your your first divorce, your only divorce. Correct 78 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 5: was back in two thousand and seven. 79 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 2: Yes, you have been like a mediator. 80 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 5: You know. 81 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 3: It was like and was there a prenup obviously in place? 82 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 2: Then no, there wasn't. But it was like a mediator. 83 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 2: But it was also different. I was young and you 84 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 2: know he I was young and made starting to make money. 85 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 2: He was you know, older and starting to make money, 86 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 2: and so we were like we were really building, you know. 87 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 2: I helped him build his career. And it was just 88 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 2: a different environment. It was a different time too. You know, 89 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 2: two thousand and seven, people weren't like, get a prenup, 90 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 2: take care of yourself. You know, women weren't like, oh, 91 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 2: I need to watch out for my finances. You know, 92 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 2: it was a different time. I mean people didn't even 93 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 2: talk about really about marriage. When I remember going on 94 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 2: when I was first on Housewives, and you know, I 95 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 2: was like, I'm a single parent, and they were like, oh, 96 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 2: so that we got one of those in the room. Yeah, 97 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 2: it was kind of like I had like leprosy or something. 98 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 2: You know. I was like, I'm just single, Like I 99 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 2: just raising my kids on my own. And I was, 100 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 2: you know, also young when I got married, but just 101 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 2: it was just a different time. Now it's like people 102 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 2: are like, I'm single, I'm loving life, and back then 103 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 2: it wasn't really perceived that way. 104 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 3: So can I ask kind of an insensitive question? 105 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 2: You can? 106 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 4: I think, push through it. 107 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: You'll make it. 108 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 3: Just get through it because I don't want to sound 109 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 3: I don't want to put him in a bad light. 110 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 3: But does he not have a lot of money? 111 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 4: I don't. 112 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't really know what his money situation is, 113 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 2: which is also a bad thing. You should kind of know 114 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 2: what the finances are of the family finances. I just 115 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:31,559 Speaker 2: knew that I have two children. I've worked really, really hard. 116 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 2: I have a lot of earning potential, and I want 117 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 2: to make sure that my girls are protected for the 118 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 2: rest of their lives. I mean, that's why I'm making money. 119 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 2: I'm not making money so I can go to tom Ford. 120 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 2: Although I do love tom. 121 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 3: Ford and it with his fans Like me, we're in 122 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 3: New York. 123 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 2: People are like, oh my god, they're just spending money 124 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 2: like crazy. Well that's not really how it is. Like, 125 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 2: I just want to make sure that my girls are 126 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 2: obviously educated and have a good you know framework, but 127 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 2: I just want to like ensure that they can do 128 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 2: whatever they want. 129 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 3: And he didn't want to sign it because he what 130 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 3: was his reasoning for not signing. He just said no, 131 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 3: just flat out no. 132 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. He was like, we're not doing this. I'm like, 133 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 2: we're doing what So we're doing We're going to combine everything. 134 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 2: I'm like, wait, no, no, no, no, we're not combining anything. 135 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 2: There's like, that's not happening. 136 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: Okay, well I know, O Kelly, a lot of the 137 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 1: headlines like that to write about that didn't get married 138 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: or marriage off because of a pre nup, But clearly 139 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 1: there was a lot more going on than the pre nup. 140 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: That might have been the straw that broke the camel's back. Yes, 141 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: but you will would you sare to say, now you 142 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 1: all shouldn't have gotten married. 143 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 2: No, And I touched on that. I just was say, 144 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 2: with the messiness and the being crowded, it was just 145 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 2: too much. It was just you know, I have a 146 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 2: you know, I have two girls, and I have a 147 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 2: big life, and you know, just with all of the 148 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 2: messy it was just too much. It's just a lot, 149 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 2: and like some people have the bandwidth for that. But like, 150 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 2: you know, I travel I work in five states. I'm 151 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 2: traveling a lot and all these you know, different shows 152 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 2: and trying to just to have a good time with 153 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 2: my life. Now that my girls are you know, educated 154 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 2: at jobs and are feeling good about themselves, like I 155 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 2: feel like I'm like, oh my god, I'm like, you know, 156 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 2: eighteen again, Like world's my oyster, Like, let's go for it. 157 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 2: What can I do now? Like where before I was 158 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 2: more like whatever was making money with the things that 159 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 2: I would just be laser focused on. And now I'm 160 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 2: just very excited about you know, new opportunities. And I 161 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 2: think that's something you know that we're not seeing that 162 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 2: much of, you know, with women in their fifties. 163 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 4: Yep, you know, I hear you. 164 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 3: What are y'all thoughts on prenups? 165 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 5: You know, I think before it's it's nice to be 166 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 5: in a position where you need one. You know, I 167 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 5: too got married young the first time, at twenty three, 168 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 5: and even when I got married again, in my mid thirties, 169 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 5: there wasn't a lot to speak of, so it wasn't 170 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 5: even a consideration. But once you I am too, a 171 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 5: woman in her fifties with two daughters who rely on 172 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 5: me solely for their you know, financial support. I've never 173 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 5: considered a prenup before, and I don't know how I 174 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 5: feel about it now. I know that I have created 175 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 5: a trust after having learned some lessons during one of 176 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 5: my divorces, and so I've taken that action and that 177 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 5: has left me feeling more protected for my daughters. And 178 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 5: you know, everyone's got different avenues, but I learned the 179 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 5: hard way that you do need to keep that in 180 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 5: mind because, as the saying goes, you don't know who 181 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 5: someone is until you divorce them. 182 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 2: So I'm not a lawyer. I'm not trying to, you know, 183 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 2: tell people about the law. But I'm just you know, 184 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 2: explaining what I know. And you know, it's either you 185 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 2: either have a trust or a pre nup. So you know, 186 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 2: if you're going to go into a relationship and you 187 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 2: want to say to the person, Okay, you know we're 188 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 2: going to get married. I mean at the end of 189 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 2: the day, like it's a transaction. It's always been a transaction, 190 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 2: like it's not some new thing. People are like, no, no, 191 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 2: it's for love. Yes it is. But when you're sharing finances, 192 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 2: whether it's one dollar or ten dollars, that's your money 193 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 2: that you made, and the person that you're with should 194 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 2: be excited about that saying like that's a great I mean, 195 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,959 Speaker 2: if he had said that's a really good idea, I 196 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:09,079 Speaker 2: really appreciate you taking care of yourself and putting, you know, 197 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 2: putting your family first, I probably would have married him, 198 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 2: even though everything was messy, and even though there was 199 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 2: just so much there was, it was so crowded, I 200 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 2: probably would have been like, you know what, I really 201 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:24,199 Speaker 2: appreciate that. But because because of that really rubbed me 202 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 2: the wrong. 203 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 5: Way, I was just gonna say, that's about I think 204 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 5: so much of I can only speak for women. We 205 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 5: want to be supported, and sometimes that's getting the support 206 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 5: to know that we can support ourselves. And if that's 207 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,079 Speaker 5: not celebrated by the partner or the person who you 208 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 5: want to spend the rest of your life with, that 209 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 5: is a red flag. 210 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:41,719 Speaker 3: Well, and yeah, I will say this too. A lot 211 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 3: of and I don't know if this is just now, 212 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 3: but at least five girls that I've spoken to about prenups, 213 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 3: it was the guy that didn't want to sign the prenup. 214 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 3: It was always the guy having an issue with it, like, 215 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 3: why do you want me to sign that? And you 216 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 3: know my girlfriend who was you know, she was my 217 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 3: lash tech, she was just like, he won't sign it. 218 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 3: And it's frustrating me that he's just like, I've built 219 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 3: this business, I've done this, and there's and I have 220 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,719 Speaker 3: multiple examples of it's always the guy wrapping up against it. 221 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:09,959 Speaker 3: So I'm curious TJ to direct it towards you, like, 222 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,599 Speaker 3: what do you think that is with the man to not? 223 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: I was about to ask you, is there an ice 224 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: and all those friends? Was there some kind of financial 225 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 1: imbalance or just maybe. 226 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 3: Some are a few are equal in pay and then 227 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 3: the others the women? Do you have more money? 228 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: Did you ever? And I'm gonna don't you dare try 229 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: and put this. 230 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 4: Back on promise. 231 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: I'm going to answer. I promised you did you ever 232 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: do one? Did you ever use a prenup? 233 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 3: I asked you first, Okay, that's. 234 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: Fine, I never have my answer, but and then I 235 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: have an opinion on them as well. 236 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 4: But have you ever knew she came. 237 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 3: She came to you before you guys get married, and 238 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,719 Speaker 3: she says, I want a prenup? Would you sign it? 239 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: I'll sign whatever she wants me to sign if it 240 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 1: means I can marry her. Oh, I completely pulled that 241 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: out of my ass. 242 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 4: I didn't, but it was just documented no, no, But my. 243 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,599 Speaker 1: Feeling on it, and this might sound crazy to you, O, 244 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: Kelly Jenna, is that there's something that's so unromantic about it. 245 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: It's something that does make it feel like a business transaction. 246 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: I get one hundred percent get it, but it just 247 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: feels icky to me. So I have always been on 248 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: the higher end or the one who makes more money 249 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 1: in my relationships and marriages, but it never crossed my mind. 250 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:28,719 Speaker 3: To do so. 251 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: So then you're saying, so. 252 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:34,839 Speaker 2: You either do the trust and if you don't have 253 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 2: a trust in place, then you can you should do 254 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 2: a prenup and you not should you can. 255 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 3: In my last marriage to my husband of almost seven years, 256 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,719 Speaker 3: I did not have him sign a prenup to me. 257 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 3: It was like, we are getting this, this is my 258 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 3: one forever and we're getting married. And when he cheated 259 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 3: the first round of affairs, I when he was in rehab, 260 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 3: I made him sign a post up, but that did 261 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 3: not hold up in court. It was not going to 262 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 3: hold up in court. My lawyer had said when I 263 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 3: finally divorced him that post ups don't hold up as 264 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 3: well as prenups, and that he and he told me 265 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:25,199 Speaker 3: he was going to fight the post up. And so 266 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 3: that's when I just went into my own you know, 267 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:29,959 Speaker 3: brain of Excel, Google sheets of Okay, what I think 268 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 3: is fair and what is you know, without trying to 269 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 3: take because it was I earned most of the money 270 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:40,719 Speaker 3: in that relationship. So now in this new relationship, it 271 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 3: was it was a really hard conversation to have because 272 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,719 Speaker 3: I have my entire team of people and lawyers and 273 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:49,199 Speaker 3: business managers and looking out for me, and my lawyer 274 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,079 Speaker 3: was like, this is like getting health insurance, and I'm like, 275 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 3: I get that piece of it. I was like, but 276 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm struggling with that. He's like, well, why 277 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 3: wouldn't you have health insurance for your life? This is 278 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 3: the same thing. I'm like, but it's not. I'm like, 279 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 3: he's the love of my life and I don't want 280 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 3: to have a pre nap. I don't I go Having 281 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 3: said that. Then I look at the other side. I 282 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 3: realized how much I lost almost half of my money 283 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 3: in my last divorce, money that I worked really hard for. 284 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 3: And I come from that single mom of there heart. 285 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 3: My mom was a single mom. 286 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:17,199 Speaker 4: This is not for me. 287 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 3: None of that money is for me. It's for my children, 288 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 3: and so if I just want to protect that, and 289 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 3: I think when I had the conversation with my husband, 290 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 3: now you know, he was very much like you, it's 291 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,199 Speaker 3: not what we're already going into this to not be together, 292 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 3: Like it doesn't feel romantic. It's like and I'm like, 293 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 3: I know, and I was like, I don't want it either, 294 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 3: like zero part of me wants it. And he's like, 295 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 3: I will sign it if you want me to sign it. 296 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 3: And you know, I'm not going to actually say what 297 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:42,959 Speaker 3: the end decision was, but for for me, it was 298 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 3: a it was just a really tough conversation to have. 299 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 2: But isn't that so nice? Sorry, it's not so nice 300 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 2: though that he said, like if you want that like that. 301 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 3: At the end of the day, I think I needed 302 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 3: that piece and then whatever we ended up saying it 303 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 3: was the right. 304 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 2: And that was the other thing too, is that there 305 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 2: was no, there was no like gentle conversation about There 306 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 2: was no like, you know, I want you to be 307 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,599 Speaker 2: happy and healthy and make sure that you're safe. And 308 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,599 Speaker 2: I think that's one thing that is that, you know, 309 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 2: there's so many roles of being reversed. There's a lot 310 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 2: of women that are making a lot of money. And 311 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 2: you know, it's like when I when I was dating 312 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 2: before I met him, you know, a lot of guys 313 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 2: would be like, oh, you know, Kelly's going to take 314 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 2: care of this, and Kelly's doing this, and Kelly's doing that. 315 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 2: I'm like, why is Kelly doing everything? Like hello, you 316 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 2: can like you know, start doing things as well. And 317 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 2: you know, I just I just feel like there's nothing 318 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 2: wrong with making money, and there's nothing wrong with being 319 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 2: you know, supporting your family and putting your children first 320 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 2: and like wanting a nice life for yourself. There's nothing 321 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 2: wrong with that. And there's nothing wrong with wanting to 322 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 2: have a partner that's involved in that as well. Who's like, Hey, 323 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 2: you know what you're doing just a freak job. 324 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 4: I'm so proud of you. 325 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: Because Asten don't get why he would just he just said, 326 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: but he didn't just give you like a response, you say, 327 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: you just said no and moved on, is it? I mean, 328 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: what was the logic behind it? Am I missing? Oh? 329 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 4: I was going to ask that question. If you didn't 330 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 4: the same exact question, they had to. 331 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: Give you some reason why besides just no, I refuse. 332 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 2: Well, actually he said to me no, and then he 333 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 2: was like, I'm gonna have my lawyer go back, and 334 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 2: I'm just like no. 335 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 3: I was like, that's where it's so transire, that's where 336 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 3: it's gets so. 337 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 2: And I was like, no, no, no, We're not doing 338 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 2: this back and forth. It's like, this is it if 339 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 2: you want to be involved or not, and. 340 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 4: That's it. That was it. 341 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 2: Having done. He had it for a long time. It's 342 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 2: not like he had it like a day. 343 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 5: Well that I mean, I know, this is crazy. My 344 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 5: brain goes straight to a place where, you know, what 345 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 5: it all happened the way it was supposed to. Because 346 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 5: if he went to that place immediately with you asking 347 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 5: for a prenup before you're even even a married couple, 348 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 5: My mind goes to what that divorce would have been 349 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 5: like had it not worked out. Well, he said, you know, 350 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 5: conversation is that I'll take it to my lawyers. That's 351 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 5: the worst possible response when you haven't even gotten married. 352 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 2: Well, just like by you know, I mean, so we're 353 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 2: talking about like you know, would have, could have, should 354 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 2: like all these different things. But here's here's the here's 355 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 2: the good news. The good news is the law doesn't 356 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 2: care if you're madly in love or if you hate 357 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 2: each other. The law says you get a certain amount 358 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 2: of money regardless if you don't have a trust or 359 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 2: a prenup and place, so you know, you can be 360 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 2: loved as much as you want. And then what something 361 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 2: happens good, bad or ugly, and all of a sudden, 362 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 2: like all that money you've worked for on your the 363 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 2: male part or the female part is going to the 364 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 2: other person. Like just like you said, like you had 365 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 2: to give money to another person's like cheating on you. 366 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 2: I mean, how that doesn't make you feel you don't 367 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 2: like sleep at night and be like, oh my god, 368 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 2: I'm so warm and fuzzy because he cheated on me 369 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 2: so much money. 370 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 3: It's more so just and that is the only that 371 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 3: is the only piece that like causes still friction with 372 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 3: me and my exses because I pay him child support, 373 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 3: I have the kid seventy percent of the time, he 374 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 3: took almost half this of money. So it's like it's 375 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 3: frustrating to have that where I'm like, I worked my assa, 376 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 3: I came from nothing, like my mom worked three jobs. 377 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 4: I hadn't. 378 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 3: Like I'm the girl that's like the only saw negative 379 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 3: in her bank account. So now I'm I'm to a 380 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 3: fault too much of a horder in my bank account 381 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 3: now because I'm afraid of not and not being there, 382 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 3: not being able to support my kids in their sports. 383 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:18,439 Speaker 3: Like I had to quit figure skatings my mom couldn't 384 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 3: forford it. I never want to have to tell my 385 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 3: kids you can't do a sport because mommy doesn't have 386 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 3: the money. So like I want to like make sure 387 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 3: they're protected. And so you know, like you said, when 388 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 3: you divorce someone like he even said, I won't take 389 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 3: your money, Well no, because when the divorce is happening, 390 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 3: they're going. 391 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 4: To go after it all a lot of scot chills. 392 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 3: You know that you're getting divorced for a reason. You 393 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 3: ain't friends anymore, you're not in love anymore. 394 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 5: And when everyone starts lawyering up, it just it goes 395 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 5: from you know, amicable divorce to very much the opposite 396 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 5: very quickly. 397 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 4: And I think that's part of the point. 398 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 5: Of this podcast, which is pretty cool, because we've all 399 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 5: lived a lot of life and we've all learned lessons 400 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 5: the hard way, and that's part of the goal is 401 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 5: to hopefully impart some of that with wisdom to listeners 402 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 5: to women out there who are looking for love and 403 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 5: have gone through some of these tough times where you 404 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 5: don't know what it's like until you've walked down that path. 405 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 2: I mean with my first with my first ex husband, 406 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 2: my only ex husband, you know, we had a mediator 407 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 2: and you know it's my you know, our accountant and 408 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 2: the mediator, and we went through everything and I just 409 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 2: made sure that my ex husband was safe and that 410 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:28,719 Speaker 2: I was safe. And you know, it's like I come 411 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 2: from like good stock. I'm like, I want people to 412 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 2: feel good, Like I want them when they're around me 413 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 2: to feel good. I want them to like be able 414 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 2: to trust me. That's like super important for me and 415 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 2: my ex husband, you know. I mean I made sure 416 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,360 Speaker 2: that he that we were both like in a good place. 417 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 4: And. 418 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 2: That was really important to me. And so to come 419 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,360 Speaker 2: into a situation where I wasn't feeling good after I'm 420 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 2: the one that like tied the bow on for my 421 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 2: first husband, you know, my my only husband does. 422 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 4: First we were just getting caught up in all of 423 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 4: our lives. 424 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, my first husband's second husband, eight husbands. 425 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 3: Did you consult with anyone with your decision to with 426 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 3: my lawyer? Yeah, with my lawyer, no friends or anything. 427 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 2: And I also we had just gone to Jamaica with 428 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 2: my girls and we were having and my girls were 429 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 2: not happy. My oldest was not happy, my youngest was 430 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 2: not happy, and I'm just like, what am I doing? 431 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 2: My kids are my kids that are like my everything 432 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 2: are not happy. And I've broken up with guys before 433 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 2: that I've been dating that. I was like, oh they're fun, 434 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 2: and my kids are like we hate them. I'm like, okay, 435 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 2: you're bye, good bye, You're done. So like they've always 436 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 2: been my priority, and they just weren't feeling good too. 437 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 2: They just weren't feeling it. 438 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 3: There was a lot, So where does that love go then, 439 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 3: because obviously you love this man, you know, like, is 440 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 3: there any regrets do you like, where do you place 441 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 3: this love? Or was it just an immediate turnoff that. 442 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 2: It was a turn off, But it was also just 443 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 2: like I just well, I mean, if to remember too, 444 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 2: it's like I had to move out, and the first 445 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 2: night I'm in my ex hus my daughter was staying 446 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 2: in my ex husband's apartment, and so I like no 447 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 2: place to go. So I'm like, okay, I'm gonna go 448 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 2: with my daughter into my ex husband's apartment and there 449 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 2: are all these like Sonny angels and then he's got 450 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 2: these like symbols, and I wake up and I'm like. 451 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 1: What is going on with my life? 452 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:16,199 Speaker 2: Do you know what like very like little crazy figurines 453 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 2: that kids loved where they're like kind of oddly pornographic, 454 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 2: but for kids, they're weird. I don't know, they're not mind. 455 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 2: But anyway, I was just like, this is not my life, 456 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 2: like the sunny angels and this art, and I'm in 457 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 2: the bed with her and the dogs and. 458 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 3: I'm just like your ex husband that's the apartment. 459 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 2: I'm just like, I'm gonna like lose my mind. 460 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 5: You got to that place, Kelly, But how like how 461 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 5: much courage did it take? Or I'm just curious for 462 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 5: you to actually say I'm calling off the wedding. 463 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 4: What was that conversation? 464 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 5: Like obviously you knew this would be everywhere because it's 465 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:54,479 Speaker 5: been such a public relationship. What went into the decision, 466 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 5: how much courage did it take, and. 467 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 4: How did it go down? 468 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 3: So I was getting a colonic. Those are great. I 469 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 3: used to have those in Los Angeles, have known a while. 470 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,199 Speaker 3: They're so good. We're feeling in the world, but right 471 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 3: when we're stout to come out. 472 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: Where this is the time. 473 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 2: Chronics are amazing, so literally, I don't even know what 474 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 2: they're just like, they're just amazing. Anyone who has not 475 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 2: gotten a chlonic, I love them. 476 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 3: I feel so just like light energy. 477 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was feeling very stressed out and so I 478 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 2: got a colonic and I'm laying down and I was 479 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 2: on my phone, well I'm just getting a colonic, and 480 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 2: he said something to me along the lines of, you know, 481 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 2: you need to if you're going to cancel the wedding, 482 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 2: you have to do it now because there's a cancelation policy. 483 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 4: Oh my god. 484 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: He didn't say if. 485 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 2: You're going to cancel wedding. He's like, there's a cancelation 486 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 2: policy for things. And I was like, I'm sorry, what what? What? 487 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 2: I'm sorry? 488 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 4: What did I hear that? 489 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 2: Did you just text me? I didn't hear it. I 490 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 2: was reading it, I'm like, did I just do I 491 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 2: need my readers on? Did I just see a cancelation policy? 492 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 2: Just was like, we're done. 493 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 4: It happened over text where it was I saw it. 494 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I called him and I was like, what 495 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 2: did you just do? First of all, are you talking 496 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 2: to people on my behalf? Like? Are you talking to 497 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,919 Speaker 2: people that I know? Because that's not okay because if 498 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 2: anyone's going to break news, I'm going to break my 499 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 2: own news and listen, you know what. I think. He's 500 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:25,719 Speaker 2: a really genuinely, very nice guy. He's just not my lobster. 501 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 2: He's not my lobster. And you know, I want like 502 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 2: someone that makes me feel good about myself. I want 503 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 2: someone that like pushes me to be the best version 504 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 2: of me. I don't want someone I don't want a 505 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 2: messy environment. I don't want someone like talking about cancelation policies. 506 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 2: I want people to be like, you know what, you 507 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 2: may love you so much, let's fight for this. Yeah, 508 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 2: you know I'm coming to get you. 509 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 4: It's the wrong that we all want come back and 510 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 4: they fight for you. It's hard almost. 511 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 3: We want to be able to write, are we canceling 512 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 3: this or not, and then have you guys say no, 513 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 3: I love you so much, I want to do this. 514 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 4: Like that will always chool. 515 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 5: If he had said, you know what, money doesn't matter, 516 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 5: I just want to be with you no matter what, 517 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,919 Speaker 5: let's figure this out, you would have policy. 518 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 3: I was like, I'm sorry, what, Yeah, we want to 519 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 3: be chased? 520 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 2: A yes, yes, chase me, chase me. 521 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: Okay, you we're together two years in total? 522 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 4: Right? 523 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: Okay, you just said something. How long in that two years? 524 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: If you look back, when did you actually know he 525 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: was not your crustacean? He was not your lobster? 526 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 2: A couple of months and there was an issue a 527 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 2: couple of months. Yeah, and I was just like, what 528 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 2: is going on? Who are these people? 529 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 5: Like? 530 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 2: What is happening? See? 531 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: Doesn't that happen? Only you knew that long ago, but 532 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: it took two years to finally flesh that out. Is 533 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 1: that always or often the case? I don't want to 534 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: say just with women, but with all of us? Isn't 535 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: that a problem? Often time we ignore the signs that 536 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: you clearly saw early on. 537 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, we do, I think, yeah, because we want to 538 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 3: push through and go okay, maybe this will change, or 539 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 3: you know, we want the love or he's he's good 540 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 3: enough maybe, but it's not the best. 541 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 2: And you know what it's that's really interesting that you 542 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 2: said that, you know, he's like not good enough. And 543 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 2: I feel like people are like after I got you know, 544 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 2: I called it off. I was with I was at 545 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 2: this restaurant in the Hampton's and I sat with some 546 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 2: people that I really respect, and you know, we said 547 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 2: to me, you know, well, Kelly, everybody has luggage, and 548 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 2: I was like, okay, Louis Bauitton, fine, but like a 549 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 2: storage unit, like I know, I just can't. I don't 550 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 2: care how this lands you guys. I don't care if 551 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 2: you guys don't understand. 552 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 3: Okay, no, but don't you think older in life that 553 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 3: we have more stuff to put into storage like we've 554 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 3: got now. 555 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 2: It needs to be I have really nice furnitures. 556 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: I don't have room. 557 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 2: But it's how you organize that, right. 558 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 4: It can't be all and that is a huge touched. 559 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 2: All these little plast things. You can put them in box. 560 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 3: It has to be labeled and and nicely put away, 561 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 3: which is healed and worked on store. 562 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 5: It can't be yes no when you walk in and 563 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 5: there's just a mess everywhere, No agreed. 564 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 3: So the advice for someone finding love that feels that 565 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 3: initial I knew within the first two months what was 566 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 3: that piece that would be the the advice that you 567 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 3: would give them so that we can stop people in 568 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 3: their tracks to then meet the right person. 569 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 2: Understanding your bandwidth, I think is like mandatory for your 570 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 2: So for your own self, you have to instead of 571 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 2: people saying like you, this is okay, this is not okay, 572 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 2: you have to understand your own bandwidth. For some people, 573 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 2: what's messy is not that messy. For other people, what's 574 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 2: you know, what's what's what's a storage unit is? You know, 575 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 2: just like carry on luggage. So you just have to 576 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 2: understand your own bandwidth and be okay with that, do 577 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? And like, you know, you 578 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 2: guys have been through a lot together, but you're so connected, 579 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 2: Like just just been talking with you before we even 580 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 2: started this. You guys so in love and just so 581 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 2: just connected. Like you know, it's you were like look 582 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 2: at each other when you were talking. You know, it's 583 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:09,679 Speaker 2: not just like oh my god, what are they going 584 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 2: to say? I mean, you know what she's going to say, 585 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 2: and you know what he's going to say, and it's 586 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 2: just beautiful and just being able to be open to 587 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 2: that other person. And so I don't think the person. 588 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 2: You know, it's like everyone's like they they're like, oh, 589 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 2: I want to you know Jill's Aaron used to say, 590 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 2: I want a PJ. No, no, no, everyone go for 591 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 2: a TJ. Like that's like that's the real you know, 592 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 2: that's just what life is about, just like sharing memories. 593 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 2: So you have to understand your bandwidth and know like 594 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 2: what you can handle and kind of what you can't. 595 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 1: We will say first, thank you for the kind words. 596 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 1: That's true. I was like, oh, I spend a short 597 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 1: time with you before we came in here, but is 598 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 1: was there ever did you all spend in time trying 599 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 1: to reconcile after you cut off the wedding? 600 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 3: Was there ever a chance did he say, hey, I 601 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 3: want to go to therapy? 602 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 2: Maybe yeah? Oh we did go to therapy once. And 603 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 2: then I was I was like, this is not therapy. 604 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 2: I was like, this is babysitting for him. I was like, 605 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 2: I'm not doing this. This is like I'm like, the 606 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 2: therapist is supposed to be like, here are the tools 607 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,479 Speaker 2: in your tool belt, use this one and she was like, Oh, 608 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 2: you're so handsome and cute and fun, and everybody's not 609 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 2: nice to you. I'm like, I'm gonna kill myself. 610 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 1: He charmed the therapist. He's a charming guy. 611 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 2: He's a very charming guy. He's very he's a great guy. 612 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: Just not for me. 613 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 2: It's just not my lobster. 614 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 3: Well, this show is a dating show. So now we 615 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 3: know that you're out there in the dating world. 616 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: Oh wow, oh yes outside No. 617 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 3: Wait, did I hear a rumor that you were dated 618 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 3: with Bethany's. Oh my god, what I talk about? 619 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 2: This is like crazy. 620 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 3: So my last Bethany's as the one that no no, no, no, okay. 621 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 2: So I'm in the Hamptons with my I'm like, you 622 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:57,880 Speaker 2: know what, I'm gonna rent this house in the Hamptons. 623 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 2: I am getting my license in Texas. It's one hundred 624 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 2: and eighty hours. I'm going to study, do my stuff, 625 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 2: spend time with my kids. Learned to play polo, learn 626 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 2: to do something that's like so difficult. I'm going to 627 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 2: learn that and just really, you know, take myself out 628 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 2: of like all my little you know, drama filled you know, environment, 629 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 2: and just go do something that's different. And just like 630 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 2: get excited about life again. And so you know, my 631 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 2: daughter's like Mom, you know, she's like, you can just 632 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 2: go on Riot. But you you know, like at the 633 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 2: beginning when I was on Ryo, I was like, people 634 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 2: are like, they're like, oh, just say hi to people 635 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 2: say like hi Hi. I was like, this is not 636 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 2: working for me. 637 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 3: It's so it always just ends at the high like 638 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 3: I think people just want a bigger your You're cute, cute, 639 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 3: you liked her, and then in just the conversation ends right. 640 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 2: When I was yeah before and I Waskeday, I was 641 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 2: like hi Hi. I was like, what's this not happening? 642 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 2: And so she's like Mom, She's like she's like say 643 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 2: something like your trouble And I was like, oh, So 644 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 2: I was like, you know whatever, I usually say aloha. 645 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 2: That's usually my fan like aloha, and they're like are 646 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 2: you from Hawaii. I'm like I could be like, I'm 647 00:28:58,400 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 2: you know. 648 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 4: Just I love trap there exactly, thank you. 649 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 2: And so I was like, okay, I'm just you know, 650 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 2: like and then my other friend is like she's a lawyer. 651 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 2: She's like, it's a numbers game, just like all these guys. 652 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 2: So I'm like okay, like like like like oh okay, 653 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 2: like oh oh yeah, like like like like whatever. And 654 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 2: then they you know, I'm like a loha aloha, just 655 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 2: trying to be polite, and my my oldest starter is like, 656 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 2: you're not supposed to do the first one. I was like, 657 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 2: it's a loha. It's not like I'm saying like let's 658 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 2: have sex, like and she's like, eh, you're so grown. 659 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 2: So cut to there's this one guy that's from California, 660 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, this guy looks really nice 661 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 2: and he's like near Malibu, and I have this beautiful 662 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 2: listening in Malibu, and so I was like I spent 663 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 2: spent a lot of time there. And so I was like, oh, 664 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 2: just you know in my head, you know how you're 665 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 2: like you're like, oh, that's kind of nice. And I 666 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 2: wasn't thinking about it. And then he was like starting 667 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 2: to chat with me, and I was like oh okay, 668 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 2: and he's like, we should move over to your cell phone. 669 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 2: I was like, my what you want my cell phone number? 670 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 2: Like how does this work? So I was like okay. 671 00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 2: I was like giving my cell phone number and then 672 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 2: he's like like texting me at night. I was like 673 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 2: like I'm not a night person. I'm like a morning person. 674 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 2: So I was like, why is my phone going on? 675 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 2: What is going on? And he was like, lah, whatever, 676 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 2: I have kids, I have all this stuff. And so 677 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 2: this goes on for a while and then I'm at 678 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 2: dinner at Bill Boukay in sag Harbor. I'm hunning very 679 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 2: bougie you guys. So we're in sag Harbor at Bill Okay, 680 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 2: which is a beautiful restaurant, and we're all dressed up 681 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 2: because we've gone out with for a work dinner, and 682 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 2: my two girls were there and I walk out. He 683 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 2: goes Kelly, and my oldest daughter is like hell, and 684 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 2: my younger sons like I don't think you know my mom, 685 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 2: Like we have no idea who you are. Basically like 686 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 2: she's totally giving him the cold shoulder, and he's like Kelly, 687 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 2: He's like, I'm a twan Riah and I'm just like 688 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 2: and like everyone's just like and I was like, oh 689 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 2: my god. I was like hi again, I to see you. 690 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 2: And then my daughter's like, I'm getting ice cream bye, 691 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 2: and I'm like I'm I'm just gonna go get ice cream, 692 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 2: and so like I literally I'm awkwarded, this was the guy. Yeah, 693 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 2: don't look at me like that. 694 00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: This was the guy. 695 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 2: This was the guy I was texting with. So then 696 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 2: whatever I text him. I didn't text him my best friend. 697 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 2: My friends like she texted him and she's like, yeah, 698 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 2: so nice to see you. We should connect because she's 699 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 2: like you gotta like get him to connect. 700 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 3: Right, And how long goes this? 701 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 2: I need like three weeks ago. 702 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: This is sounding like a good story to me. 703 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 3: Then like I'm related to Bethany or not. 704 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 2: Okay, so I'm gonna go I'm gonna talk past her. Okay. 705 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 2: So so we are like I'm like, he's like texting 706 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 2: back and forth all this stuff, and then all of 707 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 2: a sudden, like I don't care from him for a 708 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 2: couple of days. But I was like, oh whatever, like 709 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 2: it's you know, I'm doing my stuff. And so then 710 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 2: it's after Labor Day weekend and I'm in the Hampton's 711 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 2: and on Ria it tells you where people are. I 712 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 2: did not know this, but I found out this that 713 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 2: it says like visiting, visiting in wherever. I was like, wow, 714 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 2: they oh my god, you know where people are. 715 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 4: So that's fun. 716 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 2: So he's like, are you in Montalk and I'm like, 717 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 2: I happened to be in Montalk doing a photos and 718 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 2: he was like, let's meet for a drink. My kids 719 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 2: are leaving and I was like okay. So then he 720 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, you know, I have to be 721 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 2: back in New York, so I had to be in 722 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 2: New York early. And I was like, well, we can 723 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 2: meet for a drink, but like I'm driving two mon 724 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 2: talk and it's spotty in the Hampton. So I was 725 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 2: like it's either now or like basically never, so you know, 726 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 2: and we've been like texting a lot, like he was 727 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 2: like always texting me like and so then I was 728 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 2: like I have to leave, like I can't be in 729 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 2: wait for you in Bridge Hampton. 730 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 3: So a week later, this is very dispensable. 731 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 4: I'm here, I. 732 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 2: Like my friend goes, wait, is this the guy that 733 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 2: you were dating? And I'm like who what? And it 734 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 2: just like sends me page six and it's like Brittany 735 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 2: dating this guy and I'm like wait what. I'm like, 736 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 2: so he's dating her and me? So I sent him 737 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 2: a text and I'm like I'm like, oh. I was 738 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 2: like the Hamptons is such a beautiful place, Like I 739 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 2: hope you come back. I'm really really sorry you are 740 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 2: a part of the dark side. And then he called me. 741 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 5: But when he was actively dating or is actively dating 742 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 5: Bethany Franklin, he's texting with. 743 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 2: You, Yeah, he said that like that. She was like, 744 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 2: I don't feel like this is going anywhere, And so 745 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 2: then he started texting me. I'm like, so now I'm like, 746 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 2: you're sloppy seconds no thank you to no one ever 747 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 2: like no thank you. I'm like, oh my god, hidios. 748 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 3: The dating world is so tough. 749 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 5: I was going to say, so is that small of 750 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 5: a pool to pick from here in New York? 751 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 4: By that can happen. 752 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 2: Even worse than I mean, first of all, like like 753 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 2: whatever you think about her, like like her or not 754 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 2: like her every single like almost I would personally. 755 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 3: She's always been so kind and lovely to me with 756 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 3: a podcasts and through dms. 757 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 2: But like, yeah, that's amazing for you. She's been opposite 758 00:33:58,200 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 2: to me. 759 00:33:58,640 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 4: Oh no, awful. 760 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 3: I'm so sorry. 761 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 4: I just I love that Jane is just now getting 762 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 4: filled in on this. I'm so sorry. 763 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 2: She's like my quote unquote. 764 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,399 Speaker 3: Like like you guys to get along in the show, 765 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 3: like millionaires show. 766 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 4: I didn't know. 767 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 2: She takes life to another level. It's whatever she can 768 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 2: to get, like anything. She's very thirsty. So cut to 769 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 2: She's like, so I was like, I'll meet a guy 770 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,359 Speaker 2: and I'll be like going on a date and he's like, oh, 771 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 2: so your best friend. I'm like i dated her. I'm like, 772 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:30,959 Speaker 2: who's my best friend? 773 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 4: But really, wow, Brittany, I'm like, wait a. 774 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 2: Minute, I'm sorry, Brittany. 775 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 4: It's just it's just a moniker. It's a moniker that 776 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 4: was just created. Okay, got it. 777 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 5: So I was just like. 778 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,839 Speaker 3: I used to want to hear but her real name, 779 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 3: Brittany Britney Frank. 780 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 4: It's it's yes, it is. 781 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 5: It's just you know what, when you don't have good 782 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 5: feelings about someone, I understand this, you just don't want 783 00:34:58,560 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 5: to even give their name. 784 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 4: Powers, come up with a different names. 785 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 3: I've made up names in my book to not give 786 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,839 Speaker 3: people power. There you go, and legal reasons. But that's 787 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:06,319 Speaker 3: that's going. 788 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,320 Speaker 1: But were you interested in the guy genuinely? 789 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 2: He was. He's a really like nice guy, like he 790 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:14,320 Speaker 2: has kids my age. 791 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 3: Disappointed. 792 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I was like, oh my god, like we 793 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 2: have like similar like you know, we're interests and I 794 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 2: was like, Oh, that would have been fun, but I 795 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 2: was like, you still pursue you Well, he gave me 796 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 2: this weird phone call which is kind of like basically 797 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 2: like if it doesn't. 798 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 3: Work out, I'll let you know, trying to go back 799 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 3: to Britain. 800 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 2: I don't know what he was doing, but I was 801 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 2: just like, I'm not interested in anything. 802 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 3: The only thing that I will say about Ryah, which 803 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 3: is the piece I don't like, Like I know that 804 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 3: I was some of my friends on the time that 805 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 3: I was on Riot up he was matching. Certain people 806 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 3: would match with some of my girlfriends and they're like, oh, 807 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 3: like my girlfriend Caitlin, she's lovely, and she'll be like, oh, 808 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 3: you match with him too. I matched with him, and 809 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, you can totally have him if you want. Like, 810 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 3: I don't think there's but everyone is kind of talking 811 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 3: to everyone until it becomes, you know, a thing. So 812 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 3: I'm not giving him grace whatsoever. Like if he was 813 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 3: actually in a relationship, that's messed up. But I will 814 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 3: give grace to the guy. Where I feel like a 815 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 3: lot of guys are called out for talking to different 816 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 3: people if you're just dating. That's the dating world. You're 817 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,320 Speaker 3: talking to different people until I don't know. It's just 818 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,959 Speaker 3: my personal opinion. For I'm not totally bashing the dude. 819 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 2: Like listen, Like, do I think that he's a bad person, No? 820 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,799 Speaker 2: But do I think that he loves housewives? Yes? 821 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,919 Speaker 1: He knew what he was doing. You can't. 822 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 2: All he has to do is google and being you 823 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 2: know what I mean, he knew exactly what the situation is, 824 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,400 Speaker 2: and people are googling people like I don't necessarily like 825 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:38,719 Speaker 2: to do that because. 826 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 3: I didn't google you for I didn't know the drama, 827 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 3: so I apolish. I just figured, like, you know, that 828 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 3: was like kind of show made. 829 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 2: I didn't know it was, well it was supposed to be, 830 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:50,759 Speaker 2: but then it was like life made, and I was like, 831 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,359 Speaker 2: this is so weird. I was like, I don't even 832 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 2: know what's going on here. 833 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 3: What do you think makes a person thirsty? 834 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 2: Just constantly going after you for things or just commenting 835 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 2: just you know, just genuinely inherently just mean things, or 836 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 2: going after people that are like I think one of 837 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 2: the things that at the very beginning, which we're not 838 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 2: talking about it, but just like what I don't like 839 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 2: in general is that going after people that are like 840 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:23,840 Speaker 2: doing good things, Like I don't go after you to 841 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,720 Speaker 2: say like, oh my god, like you've had three marriages, 842 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,239 Speaker 2: I've only had one marriage. I'm better than you. Like 843 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, I have empathy. I'm like, 844 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,719 Speaker 2: oh my, there must have been something happening. So a 845 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,319 Speaker 2: thirsty person to someone like like goes after someone who's 846 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 2: successful so that they can hop on that success, but 847 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 2: then drag that person's success down so that they can 848 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 2: kind of prop themselves up. So that's kind of how 849 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:45,399 Speaker 2: I see. 850 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,360 Speaker 3: It makes sense. You don't know the full picture of things, right, And. 851 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 2: I'm always like tell me, like, yeah, you know, but 852 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 2: then you know, I guess from being on television, people 853 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 2: just genuinely think that you know, we know everything. I'm 854 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,720 Speaker 2: always like, listen, if you want me to know your story, 855 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 2: you can send your bio to me beforehand and I'll 856 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 2: read it. Like That's how they were. They were like, 857 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 2: you don't know everything about me. I'm like, no, I've 858 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 2: never even met you before. I'm trying to learn. You 859 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 2: can give me a chance to learn. 860 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 4: Kelly, what is the dating world? Like? 861 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 5: You are fifty six, yes, stunning, gorgeous you there's a 862 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,800 Speaker 5: trend and I'm living it actually right now, where women 863 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:27,479 Speaker 5: are dating and it's perfectly acceptable dating younger men. What's 864 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 5: your thought on that and what do you like when 865 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 5: you're looking at who you might date. What do you 866 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,359 Speaker 5: give as an age range that you'd be willing to date? 867 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 5: How low would you go? 868 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 4: How high would you go? 869 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,480 Speaker 2: You know this is numberwise? Well, because like you know, 870 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,759 Speaker 2: I always like defer to my kids about everything because 871 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 2: it's like there are my like, you know, life arbiters 872 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 2: and I'm like, okay, so what is it? And they're like, mom, 873 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 2: so like my oldest is twenty six. She's like, mom, 874 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 2: I'm twenty six, so you can't go to thirty. I'm like, 875 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,239 Speaker 2: I didn't say I was going to thirty. She's like, well, 876 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,760 Speaker 2: some guys at thirty might like you. I'm like, well, okay, 877 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 2: but I didn't say that. You said that, So I 878 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 2: think like mid sixty and like, you know, mid forties 879 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,359 Speaker 2: is you know good, like you know, ten years younger, 880 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 2: ten years older. I think it's like a good thing. 881 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 2: I mean I did date one time, one guy that 882 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,920 Speaker 2: was fifteen years younger than me, the nicest human, I mean, 883 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 2: he was such a smoke show God, he was so long. 884 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:21,880 Speaker 3: What happened so much? The reason was the age difference 885 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 3: in issue and the nicest person. 886 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 2: On the planet, it was, it was just he was 887 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 2: just too young. 888 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:27,839 Speaker 4: He was too young. He was too young. 889 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:28,799 Speaker 3: And what made it too young? 890 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 2: Because he was fifteen years younger than me, And that 891 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:31,360 Speaker 2: was just. 892 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 3: The number that was bothering here was there an actual reason. 893 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,759 Speaker 2: For it was the number. I just felt like he 894 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 2: was just too young. I was just like and like 895 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:39,800 Speaker 2: I went out to dinner with one time with his 896 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:41,400 Speaker 2: friends and they were all young, and I was like, 897 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 2: this is too young. 898 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 3: But that's like that I don't know, but I'm like, 899 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 3: I mean, I get that the same time. Like that 900 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,799 Speaker 3: Ann Hathaway movie, I'm like, I just I think there's 901 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,359 Speaker 3: I don't want people just to focus on the number. 902 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 4: I don't. 903 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:52,879 Speaker 3: I love that movie. 904 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 4: I thought was sod. I read the book I loved 905 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:55,400 Speaker 4: I loved that. 906 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:56,719 Speaker 2: I loved it. I ran to. 907 00:39:58,320 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 3: I love that movie. 908 00:39:59,400 --> 00:39:59,719 Speaker 2: I did. 909 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 5: Well. 910 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 2: It was a lot. 911 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:01,800 Speaker 4: He was in his twenties. 912 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,360 Speaker 3: I mean, but love is love, okay, right, I love it? 913 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:06,239 Speaker 5: Well. 914 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 2: You know what the thing is too is it's like 915 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 2: twenty years I when I was dating this guy, who 916 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 2: was fifteen, who is just so attractive. I'll tell his 917 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 2: name is Alejandro when he's just so attractive and what 918 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 2: you know, he's hot with a name like so well 919 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:25,719 Speaker 2: mannered and nice and kind of attractive. He you know, 920 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,399 Speaker 2: he was so nice to my kids, but my kids 921 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:31,360 Speaker 2: were younger, and I just was like, I knew that 922 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,759 Speaker 2: he wanted more kids, and I was like, I don't 923 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 2: know if that was going to be something that we 924 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,440 Speaker 2: could do, and you know, he was also you know, 925 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,880 Speaker 2: it was just like in his early he was thirty 926 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:44,880 Speaker 2: and so he was like, you know, just trying to 927 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 2: like get his life started, and I just didn't think 928 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 2: that that was like appropriate. 929 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,399 Speaker 1: We have so much more to talk with Kelly about 930 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 1: when we continue our conversation. 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