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Speaker 2: Now's everybody doing here on a Friday. Chris Brown, Chris

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Speaker 2: and plenty to get to on the NFL front. Even

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Speaker 2: though the musical chairs at quarterback are finally slowing down

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Speaker 2: as far as Free agencies concerned, the Aaron Rodgers saga

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Speaker 2: you know that's what we're used to with Aaron and

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Speaker 2: we'll get into this when we go around the NFL,

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Speaker 2: but we haven't really talked a lot on the show

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Speaker 2: about the quarterbacks past cam Warden Shudor Sanders, and there

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Speaker 2: is growing buzz on Jackson Dart, who many people have

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Speaker 2: Will tell you the team that might be looking at

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Speaker 2: wanted to start with a cool story that we saw

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Speaker 2: it's kind of a Bill's note, but it's a happy

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Speaker 2: ending to what was a very scary story this past week.

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Speaker 2: A Lancaster high school student who had just learned hands

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Speaker 2: only CPR to DeMar Hamlin clinic last year, had to

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Speaker 2: He does hands only CPR for eight minutes and gets

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Speaker 2: his stepdad breathing again until paramedics arrive and miraculously he

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Speaker 2: is no worse for wear. But I just thought that

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Speaker 2: with donating ads, doing hands only CPR clinics. I mean,

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Speaker 2: he was doing them here in our own facility for

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Speaker 2: us as employees to learn. But he's going all throughout

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Speaker 2: the community, using a lot of the money that was

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Speaker 2: donated to his charity to buy AEDs, to put into

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Speaker 2: all these schools that don't have any rec centers, all

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Speaker 2: of that stuff, and then to see this a super

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Speaker 2: positive impact, you know, literally saving a life is just

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Speaker 2: it's fantastic. So kudos to the young teenager at Lancaster

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Speaker 2: and but you know, deserve deserve it applause for that

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Speaker 2: great job. Way to step in, you know, in a

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Speaker 3: Really really cool, and how coincidental that this guy is

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Speaker 2: Always good to see a happy ending to you know,

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Speaker 2: into some of the topics around the NFL. Here presented

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Speaker 2: by Kalida Healthy, official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 2: The Titans are working Miami quarterback cam Ward out privately

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Speaker 2: on campus today. Coach Brian Callahan, GM, Mike Borgonzi, President

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And something that Maddy and I were talking about

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Speaker 2: seems readily apparent that Tennessee is ready to move on

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Speaker 3: And especially when you go from a GM and a

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Speaker 2: reporting that ahead of Penn State's pro day today, Abdul

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Speaker 3: there's not gonna be fifteen different opinions of a player

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Speaker 2: And the other thing too, is even though there is

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Speaker 2: There's a lot that's got to come to fruition there.

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Speaker 2: But the Rams, to me, are probably the top of

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Speaker 2: the pecking order right now with what the Niners went.

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Speaker 3: Through this Yeah, and to your point about the you

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Speaker 3: know Bill's Eagles playing a first place schedule, are the

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Speaker 3: forty nine ers playing a last place schedule.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that maybe that's part of the race. Could get

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Speaker 2: part ten and a half number.

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Speaker 3: And then the other team that you mentioned with ten

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Speaker 3: and a half right now, Lions? Yeah, Lions. They are

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Speaker 3: going to be fascinating just from a general perspective for me,

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Speaker 3: because we are going to see how much of an

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Speaker 3: impact coaching has in the NFL. And and I'm asking that, like,

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Speaker 3: will just the personnel they're going to be healthier? Aaron

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Speaker 3: Glenn's gone, Ben Johnson is gone. Their offense or their

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Speaker 3: defensive and offensive coordinators respectively. Do they just their newbies?

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Speaker 3: They're all new?

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Speaker 2: So Solovian Shepherd is the defensive.

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Speaker 3: Core Shepherd former Bill Kevin chapter part of the Jerry

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Speaker 3: Hughes trade. Do they just go out and are they

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Speaker 3: just the Lions of last year where they're just running

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Speaker 3: up and down the field or are we going to

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Speaker 3: look back in December or January whether not as good

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Speaker 3: and then we can say, look at how much coordination

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Speaker 3: offensive and defensive actually matters in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: We have two recent examples of that. The Bills had

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Speaker 2: a new defensive coordinator and offensive coordinator and kind of

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Speaker 2: stumbled a little bit.

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Speaker 3: And Brian Dabow thekindors you're mentioning, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and even Dorsey to Brady too because McDermott was

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Speaker 2: the new coordinator in that year and they were able to,

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Speaker 2: you know, walk down the Dolphins at the end of

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Speaker 2: the year when the division go to the playoffs and

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Speaker 2: make the divisional round, and then the Eagles they lose

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Speaker 2: both their coordinators to head coaching jobs. Of what happened,

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Speaker 2: they barely scrape into the playoffs and don't go very far.

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Speaker 2: And then they reload again with more experienced coordinators, you know,

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Speaker 2: in Kellen Moore and Vic Fangio after the failed promotions

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Speaker 2: from within the year before, and they go all the

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Speaker 2: way to the super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: The whole thing.

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Speaker 2: So here's the thing that I'm wondering. You saw the

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Speaker 2: Eagles do a reset with experienced coaches and they go

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Speaker 2: to the super Bowl. The previous year they barely get

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Speaker 2: to the playoffs and I think they lost in the

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Speaker 2: wild card round. The Lions are promoting from within the

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Speaker 2: way the Eagles did the first time around after they

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Speaker 2: lost Stichen and Gannon.

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Speaker 3: Yep. Yeah, it's and they're in a good division. The

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Speaker 3: NFC North is really, really good. I love what the

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Speaker 3: Vikings have done this offseason. The Packers are always there,

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Speaker 3: and then the Bears have a shot at being much

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Speaker 3: in being pesky. I mean in that division, they might

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Speaker 3: only be eight to nine or nine and eight, but

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Speaker 3: improved most likely year two of Caleb Williams. I guess,

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Speaker 3: like the other variable where this won't be just a

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Speaker 3: cut and dry case study of players versus coaches in

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Speaker 3: terms of importance is there's no way the Lions are

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Speaker 3: going to be as injured on one side of the

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Speaker 3: ball as they were. Like they lost a bunch of

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Speaker 3: their linebackers Malcolm Rodriguez and Derek Barnes, their their secondary

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Speaker 3: was totally dec Maybe they bring in DJ Reid from

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Speaker 3: the Jets. So I guess you're right that the recent

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Speaker 3: history has kind of already answered that that. Yeah, that

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Speaker 3: to lose two coordinators is big, But I wonder if then.

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Speaker 2: To promote from within to inexperienced guys really ask of

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Speaker 2: your personnelity.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, I just wonder if the most likely to be

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Speaker 3: improved health of the lines will keep them afloat at

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Speaker 3: the top of the NFC.

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Speaker 2: Because they have some They've got some difference makers on

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Speaker 2: both sides of the ball without question. The Bucks, Chargers, Rams, Texans, Broncos, Packers, Bengals,

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Speaker 2: and Commanders were all listed at nine and a half

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Speaker 2: wins in the third slot for what it's worth. So

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Speaker 2: it's always interesting to look at that. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: realized the odds makers are largely using where the money

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Speaker 2: is to put those numbers up, but still there, it's

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Speaker 2: somewhat of a barometer, So it's always interesting to check

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Speaker 2: in on that. Want to remind you it's OBL Friday

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Speaker 2: Fan mail bag day, so any question you might have

511
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 2: on the bills, the league at large, the NFL Draft

512
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Speaker 2: fire away at us. We also have the owners meetings

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Speaker 2: down in West Palm Beach starting tomorrow. And I found

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Speaker 2: it interesting that the media is, you know, the national

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Speaker 2: media newsbreakers. They're hearing chatter about support on banning the

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Speaker 2: tush push. Now you need three quarters of the vote,

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Speaker 2: twenty four out of thirty two team votes, and we

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Speaker 2: know the Packers brought that proposal to the table to

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Speaker 2: get rid of the tush push. And we had Coach McDermott,

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Speaker 2: who's a member of the Competition committee on with us

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Speaker 2: when we were at the combine and he mentioned how

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Speaker 2: he has reservations about to play himself. From player safety standpoint,

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Speaker 2: he doesn't feel it's a safe play for players to

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Speaker 2: engage in. And he's a guy that has a team

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Speaker 2: that's benefited from the Tush push, maybe more than any

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Speaker 2: other team with the exception of the Eagles. So it

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Speaker 2: was a very interesting stance from a coach whose team

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Speaker 2: has benefited greatly from that play. And I wonder if

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Speaker 2: an opinion like that from a team that's benefited from

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Speaker 2: it can shift the thinking among NFL clubs about, you

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Speaker 2: know what, maybe we shouldn't have this play in the game.

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Speaker 3: And I wonder if Sean McDermott's membership or participation in

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Speaker 3: the Competition committee maybe he has more of a larger

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Speaker 3: voice in the room now, I mean not the second year. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that is a really interesting concept that a player or

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Speaker 3: a coach that has a player in Josh Allen who

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Speaker 3: is as good as any individual quarterback of getting that

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Speaker 3: first down comes out with a statement like that that

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Speaker 3: maybe could have signaled the report from Diana Russini or

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Speaker 3: I mean, I know this came at the combine and

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Speaker 3: now this is coming out recently, but maybe that was

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Speaker 3: a little bit of an indication of how other coaches

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Speaker 3: that have had teams that are very successful just don't

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Speaker 3: love it. Very quickly, I'll say this is going to

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Speaker 3: be unpopular. I don't love it here. And I think

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Speaker 3: the play in the AFC title game, even though that

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Speaker 3: was kind of obscure because Josh Allen like kind of

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Speaker 3: rolled to his left, I don't love the inexact science

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Speaker 3: of it whatsoever. That there are times in terms of spotting,

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Speaker 3: in terms of spotting like, I don't I've never seen

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Speaker 3: anything about oh, it's you know, quarterbacks just getting concussions

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Speaker 3: and centers are getting hurt. I mean, for Sean McDermot

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Speaker 3: to say that he probably has data, I don't, but

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Speaker 3: I don't, like we already realized that spotting the football

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Speaker 3: on a run play or on a completed pass is

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Speaker 3: already pretty inexact. On that play, it's just kind of

557
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Speaker 3: like we don't really know where the ball is and

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Speaker 3: there's really nothing that the rest can do. We think

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Speaker 3: he got it, or no, maybe he didn't. Let's review it,

560
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Speaker 3: and then maybe like again, you rewatch it and you think, yeah,

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Speaker 3: he got the first down. Let's review it. It's not

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Speaker 3: conclusive enough. A lot of times Josh Allen's going straight

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Speaker 3: into the ground and you literally could be right down

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Speaker 3: the line. You can be watching on an eighty and

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Speaker 3: TV at home and have no idea where the ball

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Speaker 3: is and the refs don't have it. So that to

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Speaker 3: me is what I don't like about it. I like

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Speaker 3: there to be you know, take as much of these

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Speaker 3: complete judgment and feeling type calls away from the refs,

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Speaker 3: let the players and ask the teams to get the

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Speaker 3: first down as clear as day instead of just a

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Speaker 3: mush in the middle of the field.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So we'll find out what happens as early as

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Speaker 2: Monday on that. So when we're back on the air Monday,

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Speaker 2: we'll might we might have some news on some of them.

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Speaker 3: And are they voting on the thirty five yard line?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, to move I think that one's a lock.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I think because they want more returns and they believe

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Speaker 4: that a drive start of the thirty five yard line

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Speaker 4: by just kicking it into the end zone is too punitive,

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Speaker 4: and it will it will prompt teams to.

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Speaker 2: Say, look, I don't want to give this offense a

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Speaker 2: sixty five yard You want to give Josh Allen a sixty.

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Speaker 3: Five yard Ye have two first downer and field goal.

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Speaker 2: So I think that will prompt more teams to develop

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Speaker 2: a kick into the landing zone strategy and you know,

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Speaker 2: go cover, which will obviously lead to returns. I'm fascinated

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Speaker 2: to see if kickers are able, because we know kickers

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Speaker 2: have gotten so good in the field goal game. If

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Speaker 2: they're able to develop a tactic where they can ensure

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Speaker 2: they will definitely get it into the landing zone, but

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Speaker 2: on aline drive and you know, kind of get it

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Speaker 2: bouncing around and then you have chaos down there, which

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Speaker 2: is good for the cover team, bad for the return team,

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Speaker 2: which could lead to us a pretty entertaining place.

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Speaker 3: Got to take a break here.

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Speaker 2: When we come back, we'll see what the OBL Friday

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Speaker 2: fan mailbag has in store for us. We do have

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Speaker 2: open lines for you at eight oh three ZHO five

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Speaker 2: to fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two five

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Speaker 2: fifty the number to get on board any question you

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Speaker 2: have on the Bills, the league, the rule proposals, the

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Speaker 2: NFL Draft. It's all fair game. So if you need

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Speaker 2: to give us a call, feel free to do that.

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Speaker 2: We'll take those calls. Next here on one Bills Live,

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Speaker 2: presented by Colid of health. It's s Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back Friday edition of One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Christrapasso with you. OBL Friday fan mail bag

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Speaker 2: is open. Any question you got on the league, the Bills,

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Speaker 2: the draft, the upcoming owners meetings, and the rules proposals.

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Speaker 2: Let him fly at eight oh three oh five point

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Speaker 2: fifty one eight eight eight five point fifty two five

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Speaker 2: point fifty are the numbers to jump on with us,

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Speaker 2: and we do have open lines for you. But we're

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Speaker 2: leading off today with Mike in West Seneca. Let me

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Speaker 2: pull him up here. What do you got first? Mike

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Speaker 2: here on One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 5: Good afternoon, guys, how are you good?

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Speaker 2: Good?

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Speaker 5: Okay? I just have a couple points about the draft, Okay, uh.

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Speaker 5: I think that the Bills are going to end up

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Speaker 5: with uh.

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Speaker 3: What is it?

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Speaker 5: Kenneth grant A Jett's name right. I think no matter

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Speaker 5: how they how they have to get them, I think

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Speaker 5: they're to get him. I also think we're gonna go

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Speaker 5: for Xavier. I think we're gonna get Xavier Wats and

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Speaker 5: the other player. I think we're gonna end up hitting

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Speaker 5: in the in the second round. I can't think of

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Speaker 5: his name offhand, but he is the the edge rusher

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Speaker 5: from Arkansas.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: And then the last thing is on the rule changes.

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Speaker 5: I really think they gotta stop with this kickoff rule change.

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Speaker 5: I mean, how many years have we has the NFL

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Speaker 5: been around and there was never issues with yea other

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Speaker 5: than a little bit of a little bit of uh, injuries,

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Speaker 5: because injuries everywhere? You know, are we gonna stop are

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Speaker 5: we gonna stop the run play because the offensive lineman

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Speaker 5: end up with knee injuries? Other time it's it's getting ridiculous.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately, Mike, the data actually supports what the league's trying

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Speaker 2: to do because the highest rate of concussions in the

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Speaker 2: league over a long period of time happened the most

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Speaker 2: on the traditional kickoff play, and the data shows after

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Speaker 2: one year of using the dynamic kickoff, concussions are down

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Speaker 2: forty six percent. So it's hard to argue with the

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Speaker 2: data when it's right in front of your face. By

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00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 2: lining the cover team up just five yards away from

651
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 2: the return team, it has reduced the high impact collisions

652
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 2: that used to exist when guys were running forty yards

653
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 2: down the field at top speed and we're going to

654
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 2: try to break up a wedge, which also is not

655
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 2: allowed anymore, so it's not going anywhere, so get used

656
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 2: to it. And the other part of it was there

657
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 2: were no returns on the kickoffs anymore. I mean, look

658
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 2: at the Super Bowl between the Niners and the Chiefs

659
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,760
Speaker 2: two years ago. They had like nine or ten kickoffs

660
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 2: zero returns, And that is not what the league wants.

661
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 2: It's an exciting play when a return is made and

662
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 2: they want it in the game, and they believe by

663
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 2: moving the starting line on a kick that lands in

664
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Speaker 2: the end zone on a flyer goes out of the

665
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 2: back of the end zone at the thirty five yard line,

666
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 2: it will prevent teams from saying, ah, just kick it

667
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 2: through the end zone because they won't want to give

668
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 2: it to the team at the thirty five. That's going

669
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,240
Speaker 2: to lead to shorter kicks into the landing zone between

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Speaker 2: the twenty and the goal line and will prompt more returns,

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00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 2: which is what they want back in the game. That's

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Speaker 2: the game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they just want to find the happy medium where

674
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 3: it's safer, which, like you mentioned, the data is very striking,

675
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 3: and keep a play that has historically been one of

676
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 3: the most fun and exciting plays in football in the

677
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 3: NFL still in the game. They don't want to make

678
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 3: it where there's no where there's only punting and field

679
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 3: goal kicking and that's it. So I think I can

680
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,919
Speaker 3: understand why. Hey, like what like last year with Steve

681
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 3: being here was great as teams asking, you know, different

682
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 3: philosophies and game plans and strategies that teams would have

683
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 3: on punt coverage, on kick coverage. Last year was really

684
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 3: that learning curve of well, what's it going to look like?

685
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 3: And I thought it went pretty well. It didn't ruin

686
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 3: kickoffs for me, but the league saw that, like you

687
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 3: mentioned that teams were just kicking it out of the

688
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 3: end zone and letting the opponent have it at the thirty.

689
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,240
Speaker 3: Now at the thirty five will probably get more kickoffs,

690
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 3: and that's more fun for the viewers and it creates

691
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 3: more possibilities for Leaviscus Chanelt there were Brandon Codrington to

692
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 3: make a team as a primary kick returner.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think also, you know, you look at

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Speaker 2: the way it went last year, returns were up, but

695
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Speaker 2: not to the degree that the league had hoped. And

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Speaker 2: so I think there that's why I think the five

697
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 2: yard change and drive start off a touch back in

698
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 2: the end zone on the fly, you know, will will

699
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,720
Speaker 2: prompt shorter kicks, more returns. And just so everybody's clear,

700
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 2: if a team kicks a ball and it lands in

701
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 2: the landing zone and somehow skids into the end zone

702
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 2: and is down there after it landed in the landing

703
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 2: zone first, that still only comes out to the twenty.

704
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Speaker 2: So just something to keep in mind. I think a

705
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 2: lot of seer spot. If you're a kick a lot

706
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 2: of kickers are going to try to do that. Kick

707
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 2: it on a line drive, get it to skids, skip

708
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 2: along the ground and into the end zone, and then

709
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 2: if it goes through the back of the end zone

710
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 2: twenty yard line, that's it. Or if it's down in

711
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Speaker 2: there after it's already landed in the end zone. Actually,

712
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Speaker 2: I don't know if they can even do that. I

713
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 2: gotta go back and look at all the words.

714
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Speaker 3: There's a lot. Yeah, there's a lot of layers to.

715
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 2: The twenty yard line. Was how it was last year,

716
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 2: and that's gonna stay the same. But let's go to

717
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Speaker 2: Jack on a sale next. What's up, Jack?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I was just wondering gonna on the teams they

719
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 7: get penalties ons a five year penalty against the defense

720
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,760
Speaker 7: or fifteen year penalty against the defense, five yard penalty

721
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Speaker 7: against the offense. Why don't they walk off the difference?

722
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Speaker 3: That's a great question. Oh for offsetting off setting, it's

723
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 3: always they just always offset in. This is a personal foul,

724
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Speaker 3: which I think is kind of weird.

725
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is a little strange. I think I don't

726
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 2: mind that, Jack, I mean, if a personal foul is involved, Yeah,

727
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind that.

728
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Speaker 3: Do they just not want the rest to be doing

729
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 3: all that math in game?

730
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 2: And live math is a dangerous thing. I'll be the

731
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Speaker 2: first to admit, like, wait, where was the ball? Wait?

732
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Speaker 3: It was a fifteen yard penalty and five So where

733
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Speaker 3: do we put it? Maybe that's it?

734
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Speaker 2: You know. That's another thing that I've always kind of

735
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Speaker 2: wondered because you always hear the official say by rule

736
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Speaker 2: those penalties off set. I'm wondering if that is an

737
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Speaker 2: absolute do all penalties off set? I got to go

738
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Speaker 2: back and dive in the I do that in the

739
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Speaker 2: off season. I try to kind of comb through as

740
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Speaker 2: much of the rule book as I can, and in

741
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Speaker 2: a scary way, I always find something like, oh, I'm

742
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 2: glad I read that I forgot about. That's just it's

743
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 2: so voluminous.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder if every single that I just scenario

745
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 3: would when there's a personal foul and like a five

746
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 3: yard penalty on the defense, that then it is not

747
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:08,919
Speaker 3: offsetting every other one like our.

748
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 2: Okay, so there is an example of that.

749
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 3: Okay, that's the only one that I can remember. But yeah,

750
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Speaker 3: it always is strange to me, and I feel like

751
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 3: every year I say that to the TV, like five

752
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 3: or six times a year, like, why don't they just

753
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 3: do the difference?

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Speaker 2: It does not a bad not a bad as not

755
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 2: a bad one. Maybe we'll let fans submit proposals to you.

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Speaker 8: Who knows.

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00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 2: Let's go to Mark on a sale next. What's up Mark?

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Speaker 9: Hey, guys, how are you good?

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Speaker 3: Good?

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Speaker 5: Hey?

761
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Speaker 6: Uh?

762
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,919
Speaker 9: I just wanted to bounce a Scott off you guys

763
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Speaker 9: about an idea. I just just came up with a

764
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 9: little bit ago as far as the kickoff rule, what

765
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Speaker 9: about if they pushed the landing zone let's say three

766
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 9: yards into the end zone, and if the ball is

767
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 9: kicked into that goal line the three yard area and

768
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 9: it's caught, the receiving team has to take it out.

769
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Speaker 9: If they don't, they only get the ball at the fifteen.

770
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Speaker 9: Now at the team kicking the ball kicks the ball

771
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Speaker 9: through the through the end zone past that set three yards,

772
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Speaker 9: so the seventy yards remaining, whether it's caught or not,

773
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Speaker 9: whether it's down, that ball gets brought back out to

774
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Speaker 9: the forty, just like if it goes out about in

775
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 9: the field of play.

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Speaker 2: Wow the forty. Well, I mean, you might be in

777
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 2: a little extreme here, Mark, I gotta admit, but I'm

778
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Speaker 2: trying to keep it consistent. Yeah, I get it, I

779
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 2: get it.

780
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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think the only I don't want to say pushback

782
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 3: because I like thinking outside the box and trying to

783
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 3: improve the game. I think for as much as the

784
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 3: league and Chris you can speak to this too, For

785
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 3: as much as the league clearly wants the kickoff still

786
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 3: in the game, I don't think they ever really want

787
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 3: to penalize an offense and start them on the fifteen.

788
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:58,320
Speaker 3: They want points, they want at least field goals and touchdowns,

789
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Speaker 3: and that's why they're considering to move it further and

790
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 3: further or I guess closer to the opposition's goal line.

791
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 3: So I think that would be too punitive of a

792
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 3: punishment to get it the other way, Yes, the other

793
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 3: way that they would want. Hey, we're never gonna want

794
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 3: any of our offense, whether it's Josh Allen or it's

795
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 3: the worst quarterback in the league starting at the fifteen year.

796
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 2: And I can't see them divvying up the end zone

797
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 2: into fragments. I think they would see that as cutting

798
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,399
Speaker 2: it a little too fine. So I understand where you're

799
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 2: coming from too, but I just the league moves sometimes

800
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 2: at a glacial pace with some of these changes, and

801
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,720
Speaker 2: even when they do make a change, it's only written

802
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 2: in as a one year rule. They still have to

803
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 2: make the dynamic kickoff do a test. They have to

804
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 2: make the dynamic kickoff permanent because it was put in

805
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 2: last year as a one year rule, because even they

806
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 2: want to play the weight and see game like, let's

807
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 2: see how it turns out. Do any unintended consequences crop

808
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 2: up that we didn't think about. That's why they usually

809
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 2: put new rules in for a year. That's what they

810
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 2: did with the fair catch on the kickoff that went

811
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 2: in for a year, didn't work, get it out, it's gone.

812
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 2: So they have to ratify the dynamic kickoff, which we

813
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 2: saw last year as a permanent rule, which I think

814
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 2: will happen when the owners meet this coming week.

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Speaker 3: Gotta take a break here.

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Speaker 2: When we come back, more of your phone calls will

817
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Speaker 2: lead off with Tim in Fairport when we return here

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Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live, presented by col Oud of Health,

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Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right back here on an

820
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Speaker 2: obl Friday fan mail bag edition of One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: Chris Brown Chris Drapasso with you, answering all over your questions.

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Speaker 2: At eight h three zero five fifty one eight eight

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Speaker 2: eight five fifty two five fifty Back to the phones

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Speaker 2: we go and to Tim in Fairport as promised. What's

825
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:54,879
Speaker 2: up Tim?

826
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Speaker 10: Eh, good afternoon.

827
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Speaker 7: Yes, I have a question about, uh, the rating.

828
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 10: Of players, because in our defense, we need help at

829
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 10: every position group on our defense. So does it do

830
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 10: you sign a number or a letter grade? Or does

831
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 10: it just ultimately come down to the the I test

832
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 10: when you're selecting a player.

833
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 3: Are you talking in the draft?

834
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 2: You're talking about how teams do it?

835
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 6: Yeah?

836
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 10: Yeah, teams in general? Do they give him a letter grade,

837
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 10: a number grade? Because we need help but everywhere. But

838
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 10: you can't say an A on the defensive line is

839
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 10: the same as an A.

840
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 3: No, the grade.

841
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, the grades are position specific to the skill set

842
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 2: you're looking for at that position, I think, and it

843
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,959
Speaker 2: just so you know, it's a number grade, and most

844
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 2: teams use for a first round prospect one point something.

845
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 2: So like if it's a first round prospect, but you

846
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 2: think he's like down in the lower half of the round,

847
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 2: he might be like a one point two eight because

848
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 2: you have like thirty two I'm just using that as

849
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 2: an example. Thirty two picks in the draft, one point

850
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,800
Speaker 2: two eight is his grade, Okay, so you would be

851
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 2: fine taking him around pick twenty eight or sure. But

852
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 2: also the reason those grades vary from team to team

853
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 2: is because they're grading them. For example, Brandon Bean is

854
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,760
Speaker 2: grading them on are they a fit for the Bills?

855
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 2: And what that? You say, well, what difference does that make? Well,

856
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 2: it makes a big difference if you're playing a four

857
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 2: to three defense and you know the Steelers are playing

858
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 2: a three to four, So you may have a kid

859
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 2: like and this is probably not the best example, but

860
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 2: Jalen Walker I think could play in any defense. He's

861
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 2: my favorite player in the whole draft. But I think

862
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 2: in an ideal world he's a three to four linebacker

863
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 2: on the outside that you can use as a pass rush.

864
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 2: You're standing up on the line even though he's not

865
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 2: super tall and only six to two, and then he's

866
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 2: you know, he could play off the ball for you.

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Speaker 3: Also, So.

868
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 2: He's a first round pick on everybody's board, but for

869
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 2: the Steelers he might be a top ten grade and

870
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 2: for the Bills he might be somewhere in the late

871
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 2: teens or twenty because he's not as good a scheme fit.

872
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 2: So that's why the grades vary as much as they do.

873
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's great. I think also what factors in for

874
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 3: as much as and I don't think they're lying after

875
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 3: the draft, but when we hear GM say, oh, we

876
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 3: just went by our board. We just picked the top

877
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 3: player at our board. Those grades that Chris was just outlining,

878
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 3: I think beyond the film work and the analytics work

879
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 3: that go into as signing. Let's say, to use your example,

880
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 3: a one point two eight. Also, what is factored in

881
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,240
Speaker 3: are the team need like hey, like the Bills are

882
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 3: probably gonna have linebackers down a little bit further on

883
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 3: their board naturally because that's the one position on that

884
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 3: side of the ball that they don't have a clear

885
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:59,439
Speaker 3: need as relative to defensive tackle, edge rusher, corner where

886
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 3: they might they kind of stack their board with the

887
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 3: needs at those positions in mind, and that is true

888
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 3: for I think every team in the end.

889
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 2: Well, I think what they do ultimately is they grade

890
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 2: the player on his own merit at his position as

891
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 2: it pertains to the system the Bills run. Yes, so

892
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 2: that's where that's where they start, and then they will

893
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 2: almost every team in the league does this. Horizontally, they

894
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 2: will be listed by position, and then vertically they will

895
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:31,240
Speaker 2: be ranked by round. So you'll have all the positions

896
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 2: left to right across the top, and the player will

897
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 2: be put in their position column, and then if they're

898
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,919
Speaker 2: grade is a one point two eight, they'll be put

899
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 2: somewhere in the first round block going across, you know,

900
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 2: with the vertical list of round one, two, three, four, five,

901
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:50,760
Speaker 2: sixty seven down the left margin. So that's how they're listed,

902
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 2: and they give an honest grade to every player, usually

903
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,439
Speaker 2: regardless of need, because if the guy's a first round

904
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 2: player prospect, he's a first round prosps fact, whether we

905
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 2: need a linebacker or not, is the first rounder, yes, okay,

906
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 2: let's put him there. So that's kind of how they

907
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 2: stack them when it comes to decision time and you

908
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 2: have them. Yeah, and you have players that are pretty

909
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 2: close in grade. That is when Chris said is accurate.

910
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 2: You lean towards me your need. So hope that makes

911
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 2: sense for you guys. Let's go to Wendell and Amherst next.

912
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 2: What's up Wendell A.

913
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 6: Hello, Cliff Squared, thanks for taking my call. You guys,

914
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 6: thank me for my service and stuff. Was the end

915
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 6: of the broadcast, and I wasn't able to retort, but

916
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 6: it was. It was honor and privileged to have a

917
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 6: grateful nation. Yes, my question is what round do you

918
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 6: think would be realistic to pick a linebacker? And do

919
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 6: you have any names in money?

920
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 2: Yeah? So I'll defer to Chris on this only because

921
00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 2: he has a better grasp of the entire class. But

922
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 2: from what we understand, not a great linebacker class this year.

923
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 3: Right, It's not fantastic. It's decently deep, and it feels like,

924
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 3: and I just said it with the last answer, that

925
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 3: is the one position that I think the Bills on

926
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 3: defense feel probably pretty good about, especially bringing back Matt mlone.

927
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 3: After the pay cut you extend to el Bernard, you

928
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 3: still have Dorian you still have Dorian Williams, who played

929
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:28,879
Speaker 3: great in Matt Mlono's absence last season. You drafted Ulafohio

930
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 3: last year. You have Joe Andreeson on the roster. That

931
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 3: is like the deepest position that the Bills probably have,

932
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 3: maybe on the entire team, in terms of guys where

933
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 3: they feel like that they can just plug right in.

934
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 5: Ye.

935
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there are names. Jack Kaiser from Notre

936
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 3: Dame who's an older player but is a great tackler,

937
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 3: probably the best, most reliably tackling linebacker in the class.

938
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to rattle through names in my head.

939
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 3: Jackson Woodard from UNLV is a little smaller but has

940
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 3: the speed in the range that it feels like Sean

941
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 3: McDermott and thereby Brandon being kind of gravitate towards me.

942
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 2: But we're thinking late there, Yeah, we're thinking late. So

943
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 2: you're talking like Danny Stutsman from Oklahoma, right, who's a

944
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 2: Day three guy. Jeffrey Bassa from Oregon who's probably a

945
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:17,879
Speaker 2: Day three guy.

946
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 3: There's Eugenis Sante from Auburn who tested really well, had

947
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 3: a big time forty. The tackling isn't great, He's not

948
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 3: awesome in coverage, but that's a developmental type that I

949
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 3: think Sean McDermott and Bobby Babbie would want to get

950
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 3: their hands on. One other name, Barrett Carter from Clemson

951
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,280
Speaker 3: who started his career. If you look at mock drafts

952
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 3: from two years ago, he was one that a lot

953
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 3: of people thought was going to ascend into the first round.

954
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 3: Didn't quite live up to that in his final two

955
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 3: seasons at Clemson, but he has the natural ability to

956
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 3: be an NFL player. Could be a sixth or seventh round.

957
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, little short six foot two thirty one is what

958
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 2: he's measured at. And then you know another guy, Kobe

959
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,320
Speaker 2: King from Penn State. He was just testing today. I

960
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 2: saw he ran a four six three at six one,

961
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 2: two thirty six. You know it's a late, you know,

962
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 2: sixth round, seventh round consideration when you know the Bills

963
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 2: might be looking to round out their special teams unit

964
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:13,839
Speaker 2: with a guy that can run, you know, get down

965
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 2: the field, make plays and coverage that kind of thing.

966
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 2: So hopefully that helps a little bit. But not a

967
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,320
Speaker 2: great linebacker class this year. We have to take a

968
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 2: break because when we come back, we're gonna be hot

969
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 2: and heavy on the cornerback class, and we're gonna do

970
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 2: that with our good friend, senior producer from NFL Films,

971
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 2: Greg Cosel, gonna join us as we break down the

972
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 2: tape on some of the best cornerback prospects in this

973
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 2: year's class that's coming your way. Next here on One

974
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 2: Bill's Live presented by Coalida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

975
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 1: The One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health.

976
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 2: All Right, our number two on a Friday can mean

977
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 2: only one thing. Senior producer for NFL Films, Great Cosal,

978
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 2: going to join us to dive into the latest position

979
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:39,800
Speaker 2: group in this year's draft class. We've done edge rusher,

980
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 2: We've done defensive tackle. We stay on the defensive side

981
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 2: of the ball, knowing it's a focus for the Bills

982
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 2: this spring, and we divvy up the cornerback class here, Greg,

983
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 2: thanks for the time. As always, I am going to

984
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 2: start with a guy that's gotten a little bit of

985
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 2: mixed opinion of late, and it might be tied to

986
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 2: the fact that he missed him time due to a

987
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 2: turf toe injury and now dealing with a hamstring. But

988
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 2: Will Johnson from Michigan, who certainly has ball production. But

989
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 2: for some reason, some people are getting a little hung

990
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 2: up on some minor details of his career. What can

991
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 2: you tell us?

992
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 8: You know, it's funny.

993
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 11: I watched he I think he played six games this year.

994
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 11: I watched him last summer. I think I did seven

995
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 11: or eight games last summer when he played pretty much

996
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:30,879
Speaker 11: the whole season. I didn't think his tape was as

997
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 11: good in twenty twenty four as it was in twenty

998
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 11: twenty three. But you know, you're dealing with a guy

999
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 11: that's six' two one n. Five you, KNOW i think

1000
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 11: he does have kind of the size length. Combination He

1001
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 11: he didn't play a lot of press this year At.

1002
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 11: MICHIGAN i THINK i watched four of the game of

1003
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,879
Speaker 11: the six, games you, know he played a lot of off.

1004
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:56,919
Speaker 11: Coverage he played a lot of his. Own they didn't

1005
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 11: play a ton of man. Coverage he certainly has the

1006
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 11: Trait brownie to play, man AND i think he can

1007
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 11: play both mirror match press man and physical. Pressman you,

1008
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 11: know some might say he's a little high. Cut there

1009
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 11: were times THAT i thought he was a little tight

1010
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 11: in his. TRANSITIONS i guess he has no forty times

1011
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 11: because he didn't run at the.

1012
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 8: Compound he didn't run at Pro, Days is that? Correct,

1013
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 8: yeah that's. Right, Yeah SO i, mean you, KNOW i

1014
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 8: think he's a good.

1015
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 11: Prospect you, know, look everybody likes corners that are six,

1016
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 11: two and because he's played a lot of zone that

1017
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 11: certainly kind of fits the general parameters of The.

1018
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 3: Bills, yeah when it comes To, Johnson greg, me as

1019
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 3: a draft analyst, myself what stuck out to me in

1020
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 3: twenty twenty, FOUR i don't know if it was and

1021
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 3: you hinted at it that the film wasn't quite as

1022
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 3: good in coverage what stuck out to me was AND

1023
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 3: i don't know if it was business decisions or he

1024
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 3: was nursing an injury before he ultimately was. Out the

1025
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 3: tackling was not nearly as good as it was in

1026
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 3: the previous two. Seasons not just talking About, johnson but with,

1027
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 3: him you can start. There how do you or how

1028
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:05,280
Speaker 3: much do you factor in the tackling reliability at the cornerback,

1029
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 3: Spot especially if we're going to talk about The bills

1030
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 3: and how much emphasis they put and how much of

1031
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 3: an onus they put on tackling on the outside at

1032
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 3: the cornerback.

1033
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 11: SPOT i think it's really important for The. BILLS i,

1034
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 11: MEAN i don't think teams necessarily draft corners based on their.

1035
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 11: Tackling But, CHRIS i agree with. YOU i MEAN i

1036
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 11: just thought, overall his tape wasn't as, good AND i

1037
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:27,879
Speaker 11: never know what to make of, that because the guy's

1038
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 11: got pretty good. TRADES i MEAN i, remember and you

1039
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 11: obviously saw the tape as well in twenty twenty.

1040
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 8: THREE i came away.

1041
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 11: Last summer AFTER i watched seven or eight, games, thinking you,

1042
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 11: know with a really good twenty twenty four, season this

1043
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 11: guy sort of. Is he's not Exactly patrick's Or, tan

1044
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 11: but he's kind of you, know you could make that

1045
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 11: kind of conversation because he's, long he's, athletic he can play,

1046
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 11: press he can play. OFF i didn't feel that way

1047
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 11: at all watching the tape this, year SO i kind

1048
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 11: of got, stuck you. Know i'm not you, know AND

1049
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 11: i don't have to do mock, rafts, thankfully so So

1050
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 11: i'm just not sure exactly what he is right.

1051
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 8: Now but it's clear he has the traits to be

1052
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 8: a really good. Player, yeah all.

1053
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 2: Right well let's move. On we'll go to The texas

1054
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 2: Kid Joddy, baron who delivered big plays in big, games

1055
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 2: often handled the opponent's top cover. Assignment what can you

1056
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:22,399
Speaker 2: see in his? Game?

1057
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 11: YEAH i think to me the biggest issue that teams

1058
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 11: will have to decide with him because he basically played

1059
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:33,240
Speaker 11: in the slot in twenty twenty three and predominantly played

1060
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 11: outside this, year although he did play a good amount

1061
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 11: in the slot as.

1062
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 8: Well so the question is if you draft, him what is?

1063
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 8: He where are you?

1064
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 11: Putting you, know the first day you line up in

1065
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 11: OTAs and you go through your walkthrough and, shirts you,

1066
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 11: know shorts and A t? Shirt Where's john a? Barn

1067
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 11: where are you putting? Them AND i, think you, know

1068
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 11: it could be either. WAY i, Maybe chris you. DISAGREE

1069
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 11: i kind of see him more as a slot, player BUT,

1070
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 11: i you, KNOW i could understand teams looking at him

1071
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 11: as an outside. CORNER i just think he's got a

1072
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 11: really good feel in zone. COVERAGE i thought he had

1073
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 11: a really good understanding of his positioning based on receiver.

1074
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 11: SPLITS i thought he had really good eye. Discipline he's obviously.

1075
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:24,919
Speaker 11: Versatile you know this is clinic, clichade BUT i came

1076
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 11: away just feeling, like you know, what this guy is

1077
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 11: just a really good, prospect just a really good football,

1078
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 11: player AND i think that you, know he's, aggressive he's,

1079
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 11: physical he'll. TACKLE i think he embraces the physical part

1080
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:42,800
Speaker 11: of the. Game SO i, MEAN i just really like the.

1081
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 11: Player it's just a matter of where do you see

1082
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 11: him in the context of your of your, defense because you,

1083
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 11: KNOW i see him more as a, slot but, hey

1084
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 11: if someone sees him as an outside, receiver that's what

1085
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 11: he essentially played this year At, texas and he certainly

1086
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 11: didn't do a bad, job.

1087
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 3: All, Right, Greg SO i agree with you That baron

1088
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,439
Speaker 3: is probably an inside. Guy and again there's probably others

1089
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:05,760
Speaker 3: that could see him on the perimeter because The bills

1090
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 3: most likely need someone to be that outside. Corner i'm gonna,

1091
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 3: transition yeah To Savon revel From East. Carolina he's high,

1092
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 3: cut the ball production was through the roof at not

1093
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 3: this small school. Level but he wasn't playing against you,

1094
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 3: know The georgias and The alabamas of the. World gets, injured,

1095
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 3: obviously we can't really factor in the injury. Stuff we

1096
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 3: don't know. That but what did you see from him on?

1097
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 3: Film his upside and maybe very specifically his fit as

1098
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 3: that other outside corner Opposite Christian benford In.

1099
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 11: Buffalo, well he was kind of a fun guy to.

1100
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 11: Watch he, may you, know he's a pressman. CORNER i mean,

1101
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 11: again does that mean he can't play?

1102
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 8: Off, no of course it.

1103
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 11: Doesn't but HE i, thought and, again you know this,

1104
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 11: year AND i took a peak last year, too but

1105
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 11: MOSTLY i looked at this year in. Detail so he

1106
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 11: had three Games Norfolk, State Old dominion and App. STATE i,

1107
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 11: mean this, guy to, me may be the best press

1108
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 11: man going a prospect in the draft. CLASS i mean

1109
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 11: he's close to six to, two he's got thirty three inch.

1110
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 11: ARMS i thought he deployed them really strategically and. Effectively

1111
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 11: he played targeted press. MAN i mean there were times

1112
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 11: he just shoved receivers right out of the. Way he

1113
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 11: took him right to the. Sideline you, know he's to,

1114
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 11: me that's what he is. NOW i thought when he

1115
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 11: did play, OFF i thought there was a little bit

1116
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 11: of hip tightness and there were some sticky. Transitions but

1117
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 11: he was fun to. Watch now, again The, bills they've

1118
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 11: sort of evolved a. Bit every team has to play more.

1119
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 11: MAN i think in THE nfl now with the way

1120
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 11: the quick game is, evolved and you have to play

1121
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 11: more man coverage or at least you have to play more.

1122
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 11: Press you can't just give guys free releases because of

1123
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 11: the quick. Game you're just giving up.

1124
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 8: Throws so.

1125
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 5: You.

1126
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 11: Know, again now you debate the level of, competition that's

1127
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 11: always a debate in draft, meetings but just if you're

1128
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 11: looking at traits and the way this guy, played he

1129
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 11: was a fun but this guy to me is a pressman.

1130
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 8: Corner.

1131
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 2: Okay Trey amos From ole miss is another guy that

1132
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 2: has the requisite. Length you, know worked out at The,

1133
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 2: combine did pretty. WELL i don't know if he blew

1134
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 2: the roof off of, anything but he tested. Well what

1135
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 2: can you tell us about this guy who you know

1136
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 2: playing every week in THE.

1137
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 11: Sec, Yeah, see this is the GUY i was talking

1138
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 11: about THAT i think fits The bills BECAUSE i think

1139
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 11: he's a really good zone. Corner now he can play.

1140
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 11: Press BUT i, mean you're dealing with a guy that's six.

1141
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 11: Brownie he actually ran really well at The. Combine there

1142
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 11: was you, know a lot of talk before the. CAR

1143
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 11: i actually did his tape in detail before The, combine

1144
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 11: SO i was AND i really liked his. TAPE i

1145
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 11: watched six games AND i was very anxious to see

1146
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 11: his athletic, testing and it was pretty. GOOD i, MEAN

1147
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 11: i think he ran a four to four to, three

1148
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 11: and again not that that means, everything but forty times

1149
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 11: for corners usually do mean. Something AND i really thought,

1150
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 11: that you, know he played zone really really. WELL i

1151
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 11: thought he could read, receivers splits and. ROUTES i thought

1152
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 11: he communicated really well on the back. END i thought

1153
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 11: he had a good sense of. SPACING i thought he

1154
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 11: kind of understood the conflict areas in. ZONE i thought

1155
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 11: he played with good eye. DISCIPLINE i, MEAN i think

1156
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 11: this guy can play. Both BUT i think.

1157
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 8: He's a good zone corner.

1158
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 11: Prospect and to, ME i don't think there's that many

1159
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 11: of those guys in, college so WHEN i see, one

1160
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 11: it stands.

1161
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 2: Out, Yeah, GREG i.

1162
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 3: Got to ask, YOU i guess about all of the

1163
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 3: big long athletic corners in this, Class Darien porter From Iowa,

1164
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 3: state who's even bigger Than revel At East, Carolina what

1165
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 3: are your general thoughts on? Him as WHAT i think

1166
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 3: is kind of a throwback Like Seattle seahawks cover three

1167
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 3: super long corner in TODAY'S, nfl that you're mentioning is

1168
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 3: maybe transitioning to it actually being. Better if you're a

1169
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 3: little smaller and or fluid to stay with these twitchy.

1170
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 3: Receivers how do you Think Darien porter, fits not even

1171
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 3: just with The, bills but in THE nfl at.

1172
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 11: Large, yeah he's six, three one ninety. Five he ran

1173
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 11: ridiculously at the combine four to three to. Zero but

1174
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 11: this guy was a state champion in the four hundred

1175
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 11: meters In, Iowa SO i, mean this guy can. RUN

1176
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:20,959
Speaker 11: i still felt like watching him that he's still learning

1177
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 11: how to play, Corner, chris because this guy went to

1178
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 11: he was a. Receiver he was a recruit as a,

1179
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 11: receiver and that's his first three years in. College that's

1180
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 11: what he did before he transitioned to. Corner so you,

1181
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 11: know obviously he's got size and. Length everybody would have

1182
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 11: loved six to. THREE i, mean that's just the way it.

1183
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 11: Is people tend to like get big and fast more than,

1184
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,440
Speaker 11: us you, know small and. Slow so when you're six

1185
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:44,439
Speaker 11: three one ninety five and run a four to, three

1186
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:47,959
Speaker 11: that gets people's. Attention amazingly, enough his ten yards split

1187
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 11: in twenty yards shuttle were. Phenomenal but he doesn't necessarily

1188
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 11: play like, that certainly not in off. COVERAGE i, MEAN

1189
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 11: i thought in off. Coverage and that's where if you're

1190
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 11: not used to being a corner or you tend to

1191
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 11: struggle because when you're, playing you, know press. Man i'm

1192
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 11: not saying it's, easy but you know you can just, say,

1193
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 11: hey you got that guy and you're playing. Man this,

1194
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 11: GUY i think he might take a little bit of

1195
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 11: time to kind of develop as AN nfl, corner but you,

1196
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 11: know he has the, length he has the. Speed, obviously he's.

1197
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 11: BIG i thought he was physical enough in the run.

1198
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 11: Game you, know you could have a guy.

1199
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 8: In two three years that could be a, really really good.

1200
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 2: Player his biggest negative is he's young at the position

1201
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 2: that that's basically the biggest negative on, him and it

1202
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 2: might push.

1203
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 11: You AND i think that showed Up brownie on. TAPE

1204
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 11: i think you could see that watching his tape.

1205
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 2: And that and that might be the only thing that

1206
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 2: pushes him a little bit down the board because you're

1207
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 2: gonna have to trust your coaching to bring him. Along

1208
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 2: but all the tools are there for.

1209
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 3: Sure he's tar equal into, me very similar to you

1210
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 3: like that Camp, okay, yeah size, wise it makes.

1211
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 11: Probably a pretty good. Yeah And wollan went TO utsa

1212
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:56,960
Speaker 11: as a wide out as. Well and uh and then

1213
01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 11: TRANSITION i think his junior year to a corner so,

1214
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 11: time you, know in some ways because he can run.

1215
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 2: Too all, Right another, tall long, Corner Azaria, Thomas Florida.

1216
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 2: State this guy looks like he's got AN nfl ready body. Already.

1217
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 8: Yeah and another, GUY i Mean Florida, state and we

1218
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:18,920
Speaker 8: saw that last year With Ernardo.

1219
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 11: Green they're a press man heavy, defense so he plays

1220
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:26,919
Speaker 11: that way a, lot and he's he's got tremendous. Length

1221
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 11: another guy like. That he's got really long arms for a.

1222
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 11: CORNER i mean his arms are in the range Of

1223
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 11: Will campbell's.

1224
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 8: Arms you, Know.

1225
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 11: So you know you're you're dealing with a guy that

1226
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:40,440
Speaker 11: played a ton of mirror match press, man physical press.

1227
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 11: Man there were snaps where he really played to his

1228
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:47,240
Speaker 11: length and physicality at a really high, level just smothering wide.

1229
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 11: Receivers you, KNOW i think that you you know you're

1230
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 11: dealing with guy another guy again that probably is going

1231
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 11: to need some work with the zone aspect of playing,

1232
01:03:56,680 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 11: corner you, know playing off, coverage reading, splits eating route.

1233
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 11: Combinations you, know although you could look at a guy

1234
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 11: like this and say he's.

1235
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 8: A boundary corner and.

1236
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 11: If you decide that's the, case there aren't as many

1237
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 11: route combinations to the boundary as there are obviously to the.

1238
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 11: Field so you, know but this guy has the traits

1239
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 11: to be a boundary corner in THE, nfl.

1240
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 3: All, right transitioning from these bigger six to one one

1241
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:25,360
Speaker 3: hundred and ninety five two hundred pounders to some smaller

1242
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:28,479
Speaker 3: corners that still play on the. Outside AND i again

1243
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 3: want to, ask, like how do you feel about the

1244
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 3: evolution in terms of traits at the. Position Quincy riley

1245
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 3: From louisville not even five to, eleven like around one

1246
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:41,760
Speaker 3: hundred and ninety, pounds but played predominantly eighty six percent

1247
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 3: of his snaps on the outside At louisville last. Season,

1248
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 3: yeah what did you see from? Him do you think

1249
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:51,640
Speaker 3: he's better in zone because just by naturally being, smaller he's.

1250
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 3: Twitchier tell me your thoughts on him and his fit In.

1251
01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 8: Buffalo, YEAH i mean he's just under five or.

1252
01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:01,560
Speaker 11: Eleven you, know he didn't run, great SO i mean

1253
01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 11: that's that's the thing that could hurt him as far

1254
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 11: as the draft.

1255
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 8: Is you, KNOW i happen to know the DB's coach At.

1256
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 8: Louisville he loves the. KID i, mean he.

1257
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 11: Thinks and this is a coach that's been around a.

1258
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:16,320
Speaker 11: Bit he coached guys who play in the. League not a,

1259
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 11: corner but he Coached Kevin byern And Red blankenship In Middle.

1260
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 11: Tennessee he Coached Jarvis, brownlee you, know who came out

1261
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:23,439
Speaker 11: Of louisville last.

1262
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 8: YEAR i kind of Like.

1263
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 11: RILEY i, mean you, know he did play a lot

1264
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 11: more off, coverage so he has experience doing. That you,

1265
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 11: KNOW i don't think he'll end up being a high.

1266
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 11: PICK i, Mean i'm not sure he's a guy you

1267
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 11: take it that is it picked thirty where The bills.

1268
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 11: Pick i'm not SURE i would pick him. There but you,

1269
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 11: KNOW i think you're dealing with a guy that could

1270
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 11: be a SOLID nfl corner down the, road who can

1271
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 11: play both man and. Zone you, KNOW i thought that

1272
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 11: in zone he was assignment. SOUND i thought he had

1273
01:05:57,280 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 11: good eye. DISCIPLINE i thought he had a good understanding of.

1274
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 11: Concepts you, know zone is so you, Know, brown you

1275
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 11: AND i have talked about. THIS i, mean this was

1276
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 11: the thing that killed the. Kyer elam obviously is no

1277
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:10,360
Speaker 11: longer with the. Team you, know he just couldn't play zone.

1278
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:13,440
Speaker 11: COVERAGE i, mean you, know it's it's that's hard to.

1279
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 11: Learn you, know people probably just, think, oh with, zone

1280
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:17,800
Speaker 11: you go play a. Spot but now you've got to

1281
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 11: start dealing with the receiver, splits with the route concepts and.

1282
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 11: Combinations you have to understand the conflict areas and. Zone

1283
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 11: you have to understand you, know midpoint. Concepts there's a

1284
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 11: lot to understand that has to become. Intuitive you can't

1285
01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:32,640
Speaker 11: be thinking this through while the plays.

1286
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:36,920
Speaker 2: Developing, yeah AND I i kind of Liked riley's. INSTINCTS i,

1287
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:39,960
Speaker 2: mean he seems to be around the wall a. Lot you,

1288
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 2: know he had eight interceptions the last three seasons and

1289
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:44,760
Speaker 2: twenty seven pass. BREAKUPS i mean it's not like they

1290
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 2: weren't throwing at. Him AND i just liked his instincts

1291
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 2: and always being around the. BALL i think that's that's

1292
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:54,520
Speaker 2: something that The bills covet in a in A dB very.

1293
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:58,439
Speaker 11: Quickly had seven Pass i'm, sorry the twenty seven pass

1294
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 11: breakups is a lot because some time WHEN i look

1295
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 11: at stats for a, corner you see like five pass,

1296
01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 11: breakups you, know and they have twelve in their all.

1297
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 8: Career, SO i, mean you, know that's an interesting Stat.

1298
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 3: YEAH i just wanted to highlight what you had said,

1299
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 3: Previously greg that being a draft analyst for as long

1300
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:16,360
Speaker 3: AS i, have it's kind of felt like the zone

1301
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:20,080
Speaker 3: corner label has been kind of, misidentified where, oh, hey

1302
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 3: he's just a zone. Corner he's not quite as good

1303
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:25,520
Speaker 3: as A Darrell reeves man coverage on an island. Corner

1304
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 3: but you astutely point, out AND i think it's important

1305
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 3: for listeners and viewers to understand coming from, you that

1306
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:34,680
Speaker 3: playing zone is, very very challenging mentally for a lot

1307
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:37,520
Speaker 3: of these cornerbacks that you, know Kyer elam had all

1308
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 3: the physical traits in the world but just ultimately couldn't do.

1309
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 11: It, yeah And, chris you, Know i've been fortun in

1310
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:46,080
Speaker 11: my career to sit in at training camp with like

1311
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 11: defensive backs coaches and the stuff they talk. About you,

1312
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:52,440
Speaker 11: know it's there's so much detail and nuanced and subtlety

1313
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 11: involved in playing.

1314
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:55,920
Speaker 8: Zone it's not just say you got that, cat you.

1315
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:58,720
Speaker 8: KNOW i, mean there's so much going on and if

1316
01:07:58,760 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 8: you just.

1317
01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 11: Can't pick that up and it has to become LIKE i,

1318
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:03,840
Speaker 11: said instinctive and, intuitive you can't be thinking that. Through

1319
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:07,440
Speaker 11: so it's it's it's that's hard and for guys who

1320
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:08,760
Speaker 11: haven't played much.

1321
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 8: Of, it you, know you've got to be taught all.

1322
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:17,000
Speaker 2: That, Yeah Denzel, Burke Ohio state four year, starter you,

1323
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:19,519
Speaker 2: KNOW i know is forty, times you, know four four,

1324
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 2: Eight it's. OKAY i just like him as a technique. Tackler,

1325
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 2: yeah and again another guy with ball, production twenty eight pass.

1326
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:31,800
Speaker 2: BREAKUPS i, MEAN i know he played a lot of

1327
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 2: games over four, years but that's pretty.

1328
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:34,639
Speaker 8: Good he sure.

1329
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:37,519
Speaker 11: Did and you know, what you're not hearing his name

1330
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:40,040
Speaker 11: a whole lot right, now and you, know for some,

1331
01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 11: reason he seems to have dropped.

1332
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:44,559
Speaker 8: Off BUT i kind of Like Denzil. BURKE i, MEAN

1333
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:48,280
Speaker 8: i think that he's a pretty good.

1334
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 11: Prospect you, know, again you, know who knows how the

1335
01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 11: dress is gonna play. Out but it doesn't seem like

1336
01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 11: he's being talked. About it's a top forty type. Player

1337
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 11: BUT i think his athleticism is pretty high. END i

1338
01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:00,680
Speaker 11: think he's got pretty good. QUICKNESS i think he can

1339
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:04,560
Speaker 11: carry vertical routes in both press and in off. COVERAGE i,

1340
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:08,720
Speaker 11: MEAN i Like Denzel, burke you, know and you, KNOW

1341
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 11: I i'm not sure what the issue is and why

1342
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:16,120
Speaker 11: he seemingly has. Dropped you, Know i've watched him for

1343
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 11: three years in a row now BECAUSE i kept thinking

1344
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:21,599
Speaker 11: he would come. Out So i've seen a lot Of Benzel,

1345
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:24,120
Speaker 11: burke AND i think he's a pretty good. PLAYER i,

1346
01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:26,760
Speaker 11: mean he's not as big as you'd ideally, like, obviously

1347
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 11: but you, know he certainly can play press and there's

1348
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 11: a physical component to his game as we're seeing.

1349
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:34,600
Speaker 8: HERE i, mean he's you.

1350
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:37,560
Speaker 11: Know he's one of those guys that he's willing to you,

1351
01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:39,920
Speaker 11: know he's willing to embrace the contact.

1352
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 2: Element, yeah it's like he plays bigger than his size

1353
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:45,000
Speaker 2: kind of. Player, yeah, yeah.

1354
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:47,800
Speaker 11: Yeah SO i, mean LIKE i, said you, know who

1355
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:49,760
Speaker 11: knows how the draft's going to play. Out you're not

1356
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:52,639
Speaker 11: hearing his name among the better corners in the. League

1357
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:54,840
Speaker 11: SO i don't know where that what that. Means BUT

1358
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:58,760
Speaker 11: i remember after the twenty twenty two, season and that's

1359
01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 11: WHEN i first watched, him that's he was being talked

1360
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:03,120
Speaker 11: about as like a top ten pick on the draft

1361
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 11: kind of.

1362
01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 8: Guy and you, know, again you never know how all

1363
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:08,839
Speaker 8: this works. Out BUT i like his tape.

1364
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 3: Last one for, Me greg The blazer in this. Class

1365
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:16,760
Speaker 3: Maxwell harriston From. Kentucky he's, small but he ran sub

1366
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 3: four three at the. Combine tell me what you think

1367
01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:22,640
Speaker 3: about him, again AND i think maybe The bills are

1368
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:25,439
Speaker 3: going to deploy more man, coverage but just his coverage.

1369
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:27,679
Speaker 3: Versatility what do you think about him from that? Perspective

1370
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:30,839
Speaker 3: and again it's kind of a theme from my. Questions

1371
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:33,679
Speaker 3: how do you see him holding up as a tackler

1372
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:33,880
Speaker 3: in THE?

1373
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:37,640
Speaker 8: Nfl, yeah which is a great. Question BUT i did

1374
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 8: him last summer AND i loved. HIM i love this.

1375
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:43,840
Speaker 11: KID i, mean believe it or. NOT i spoke to

1376
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:47,000
Speaker 11: someone who actually likes him more as a corner Than Travis.

1377
01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:49,840
Speaker 11: Hunter so BUT i really like this kid WHEN i

1378
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 11: did him last. SUMMER i think he's got the physical traits.

1379
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:56,639
Speaker 8: To pretty much do. Anything.

1380
01:10:57,720 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 11: Now he's not super, big you, know and for some you,

1381
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:04,360
Speaker 11: know you, know every team has their critical. Factors some

1382
01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:06,560
Speaker 11: coaches SAY i don't want a corner under six, feet you,

1383
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:07,200
Speaker 11: know all that kind of.

1384
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:11,920
Speaker 8: Stuff you know how that. Goes BUT i just really

1385
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:15,599
Speaker 8: like the way he. Plays you, know he can play,

1386
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:18,240
Speaker 8: press he can play, off you.

1387
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:22,360
Speaker 11: KNOW i think that to, Me, CHRIS i thought that

1388
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:25,040
Speaker 11: he was aggressive and competitive as a run. DEFENDER i

1389
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:28,679
Speaker 11: thought he took on blocks with. PHYSICALITY i thought he made.

1390
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:31,679
Speaker 11: TACKLES i mean at five eleven and a quarter one eighty,

1391
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 11: three is he going to you, know just lay people?

1392
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:35,439
Speaker 11: Out of course, Not but that's not what you're looking

1393
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:37,479
Speaker 11: for with a. Corner you just want to make sure

1394
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 11: that he's willing to get involved physically as a, tackler you,

1395
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:44,960
Speaker 11: know AND i think he. Is but this kid is

1396
01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 11: just really. Fluid he's such an easy. MOVER i certainly

1397
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 11: didn't expect four to, eight BUT i thought he'd run.

1398
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:55,000
Speaker 11: Well but for to eight is exceptionally you, know good

1399
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 11: for a for a. Corner but he's a PLAYER i really.

1400
01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:02,040
Speaker 2: Like and you know he's running four to, eight you

1401
01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:04,559
Speaker 2: can check the box of does he have makeup speed

1402
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:08,840
Speaker 2: if he's beat on a? Play, yeah answer, Yes so

1403
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:12,320
Speaker 2: he definitely has. That and, YEAH i like the fact

1404
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:15,920
Speaker 2: that he's not afraid to get his nose dirty in run. Support,

1405
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:18,720
Speaker 2: yeah despite you know BEING i guess what you would

1406
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:23,720
Speaker 2: call narrow framed for lack of a better. Term, yeah

1407
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:25,720
Speaker 2: he's not afraid to stick his nose in there and

1408
01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 2: be a factor in the run. Front and Like.

1409
01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:31,840
Speaker 11: Chris was just, saying, too you, know the game has

1410
01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:34,400
Speaker 11: changed a, bit you, know and we've talked about This

1411
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:36,680
Speaker 11: brownie through the last couple of years with all their you,

1412
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:39,640
Speaker 11: know the RPOs and the quick game throws that in

1413
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:41,800
Speaker 11: normal down in, distance it's hard to get to the.

1414
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:45,120
Speaker 11: Quarterback so you have to disrupt receivers, now and so

1415
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:47,720
Speaker 11: you have to be able to play. Press and you

1416
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:49,800
Speaker 11: don't have to be six three two ten to play,

1417
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:51,960
Speaker 11: press you, know but you have to be able to

1418
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:54,960
Speaker 11: line up and disrupt receivers or you're just giving guys

1419
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:56,360
Speaker 11: throws and you don't want to do.

1420
01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 5: That.

1421
01:12:57,040 --> 01:13:01,679
Speaker 2: Right last thing, here and this concern The bill's defense.

1422
01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:06,960
Speaker 2: Philosophically we know traditionally they've subscribed to his own. Coverage

1423
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:10,320
Speaker 2: last year they went heavy man late in the. Year

1424
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:12,800
Speaker 2: i'm just curious for your take on it as to

1425
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 2: whether or not you see it as a one off

1426
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:18,880
Speaker 2: because their pass rush struggled to get pressure with just

1427
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:22,280
Speaker 2: four they often had to. Blitz so more people committed

1428
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:24,439
Speaker 2: to blitz means less people in coverage and they had

1429
01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:28,160
Speaker 2: to play more. MAN i know they Have bosa now

1430
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:30,720
Speaker 2: and you have to see how that, Looks but do

1431
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:32,840
Speaker 2: you think it was a one off based on the

1432
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 2: circumstances at the, time or do you see them maybe

1433
01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 2: shifting a little bit to more man going forward based

1434
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:39,680
Speaker 2: on how the league is.

1435
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:44,760
Speaker 11: GOING i, MEAN i don't know what's what's In sean mcdermot's,

1436
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:47,080
Speaker 11: head BUT i think they've recognized that they struggled with

1437
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:49,840
Speaker 11: a four man pass rush last, year and that's clearly

1438
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:53,840
Speaker 11: why they went After Joey. Bosa SO i think in

1439
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 11: an ideal, World, brownie you, know and again we don't.

1440
01:13:57,360 --> 01:14:00,240
Speaker 11: KNOW i don't think that they necessarily want to up

1441
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:03,519
Speaker 11: their blitz frequency and play a ton more. MAN i

1442
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 11: think they want to play what they've played for years

1443
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:08,920
Speaker 11: and are really really good, at AND i think that

1444
01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:12,160
Speaker 11: that's one reason they went After. Bosa but you, know

1445
01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 11: maybe just seeing the way the league, is and obviously

1446
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:17,679
Speaker 11: when you play someone in your division Like, miami although

1447
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:20,519
Speaker 11: they seem to Have miami's number with no, problem but you,

1448
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:22,920
Speaker 11: know when you play teams like, that you know you

1449
01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:25,599
Speaker 11: do have to line up and play more, press whether

1450
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:27,879
Speaker 11: it's pure man or whether you're just trying to disrupt.

1451
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:31,160
Speaker 11: Receivers you know you can play press and, look you

1452
01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:33,680
Speaker 11: can play press and cover four. Too there's this myth

1453
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:35,680
Speaker 11: that you can't play press and cover four you, can

1454
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:38,880
Speaker 11: so you, know we'll see how it.

1455
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:41,640
Speaker 8: Goes BUT i think they. Know let's put it this.

1456
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:43,479
Speaker 11: WAY i don't think That sean wants to be a

1457
01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:47,080
Speaker 11: heavy blitz team. COACH i think he wants to be

1458
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:49,880
Speaker 11: a selective blitz. Coach AND i don't think he wants

1459
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:52,800
Speaker 11: to have to rely on it to generate. PRESSURE i

1460
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:55,519
Speaker 11: think he wants to use it, strategically but not have

1461
01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:57,759
Speaker 11: to use, it you. Know and there's a difference between.

1462
01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:01,599
Speaker 2: That, yeah because there's this whole chicken and egg thing

1463
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:04,719
Speaker 2: going on with what The bills need in the. Draft

1464
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:07,599
Speaker 2: they need help up, front they need help on the back,

1465
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:10,880
Speaker 2: end and then you're trying to, decipher you, know do

1466
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:13,720
Speaker 2: they need to do everything corner or are they going

1467
01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:15,800
Speaker 2: to invest so heavily in the front end of their

1468
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:19,040
Speaker 2: defense that they can get back to maybe playing a

1469
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:22,160
Speaker 2: player like A Levi, wallace you, know or you know like.

1470
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 2: That so that that's kind of the conundrum we're all

1471
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:26,920
Speaker 2: in here because they have needs at the front of

1472
01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:28,880
Speaker 2: their defense in the, back so you're trying to peg

1473
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:30,680
Speaker 2: what they want and it's hard to nail it.

1474
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:34,200
Speaker 11: Down, yeah, WELL i think that no matter how you,

1475
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:37,519
Speaker 11: PLAY i think every coach would tell you that they'd

1476
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:39,320
Speaker 11: like to be able to rush the quarterback with.

1477
01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:42,000
Speaker 8: Four, yeah you, know because then you have seven in.

1478
01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:44,759
Speaker 11: Coverage, yeah and you, know once you start taking people

1479
01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 11: out of, coverage it limits the kinds of things you

1480
01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:50,439
Speaker 11: can do on the back. End and obviously then offenses know,

1481
01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:53,519
Speaker 11: that you, know based on film, study and it's. Easier you,

1482
01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:56,960
Speaker 11: know it's easier for offensive coordinators to attack six in

1483
01:15:57,040 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 11: coverage than seven in.

1484
01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:00,880
Speaker 8: Coverage so you, know but we'll.

1485
01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:03,439
Speaker 11: SEE i, mean the post assigning did tell you that

1486
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:06,360
Speaker 11: they clearly needed to upgrade their pass.

1487
01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:09,840
Speaker 2: Rush, greg thanks has always appreciate all the insight on

1488
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 2: the cornerback. Class we'll catch up with the next week

1489
01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 2: for another position group to be. Determined Thanks, greg.

1490
01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:19,040
Speaker 8: All, right, guys that was, fun appreciate. It thanks so.

1491
01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:19,479
Speaker 8: Much All.

1492
01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 2: Right That's greg Co, sales senior producer FROM Nfl, films

1493
01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:24,040
Speaker 2: joining us as he does Every friday leading up to

1494
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 2: the draft here to go through position. Groups And i'll be,

1495
01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:30,640
Speaker 2: HONEST i like a bunch of these. Guys yeah for The.

1496
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:36,160
Speaker 2: Bills i'm sure we all have our, favorites but some

1497
01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:40,599
Speaker 2: of these long, corners which The bills usually like going

1498
01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:44,280
Speaker 2: six foot. Plus i'm not saying they would eliminate somebody

1499
01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:47,360
Speaker 2: because they don't measure six, feet but there's a clear

1500
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:52,120
Speaker 2: preference for long, limbed taller, corners which has kind of

1501
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:55,400
Speaker 2: been the preference throughout the. League they want length out.

1502
01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:57,559
Speaker 2: There with some of these giant receivers running around.

1503
01:16:57,400 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 3: And, IMPERATIVELY i think when we're talking About, amos Who

1504
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:04,280
Speaker 3: greg likes a, Lot Maxwell harston From, kentucky Who greg

1505
01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:07,040
Speaker 3: AND i And chris like a, lot it feels like

1506
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:10,120
Speaker 3: some of, these even Azari A thomas From Florida, state

1507
01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:14,479
Speaker 3: they're gonna be available somewhere in that back fourth of

1508
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:16,360
Speaker 3: the first round where The bills are not gonna have to.

1509
01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 3: Ascend there's The Travis, hunters we don't know, About Will,

1510
01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:21,960
Speaker 3: Johnson Ben, morrison who we didn't talk about From Notre Dame,

1511
01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:25,960
Speaker 3: Injury Revel. Injury JOHN. A, barron maybe he's gonna be

1512
01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:28,880
Speaker 3: the second or third corner off the. Board, Amos, Thomas,

1513
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:32,760
Speaker 3: Harston Porter, burke they're gonna all probably be.

1514
01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:34,600
Speaker 2: There it'll LEAs might have to be there at the

1515
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:35,080
Speaker 2: end of round.

1516
01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:38,160
Speaker 3: Two they. Could so that's what it's easy to talk

1517
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:40,000
Speaker 3: about the top of a class and Say, okay, well

1518
01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 3: none of these guys are going to be. AVAILABLE a

1519
01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:44,880
Speaker 3: lot of that segment are players that are probably gonna

1520
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:46,360
Speaker 3: be available and The bills might ultimately.

1521
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:49,000
Speaker 2: Pick we'll talk about this when we come, back because

1522
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:51,920
Speaker 2: there is a general consensus that the big guys go.

1523
01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:54,120
Speaker 2: First so what does that mean for what could be

1524
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:56,400
Speaker 2: sitting there at corner at the end of round. One

1525
01:17:56,479 --> 01:17:58,439
Speaker 2: we'll discuss that when we return here on One Bill's

1526
01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:15,479
Speaker 2: live presented By Kaleida Health's Buff Bill's. Radio all right back,

1527
01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:17,720
Speaker 2: HERE i Want Bills, Live Chris, Brown Chris terrapasso with.

1528
01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:21,120
Speaker 2: You and you, know we just finished talking about the cornerback,

1529
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:23,160
Speaker 2: class or at least the top half of it in

1530
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:25,920
Speaker 2: depth With Greg cosel and so Good.

1531
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:27,200
Speaker 3: Man yeah, great WE.

1532
01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:32,920
Speaker 2: I know we kind of envision because more often than

1533
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:36,240
Speaker 2: not we see this happen the big guys coming off

1534
01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:41,080
Speaker 2: the board, earlier the front. Seven, yeah and knowing The

1535
01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:43,400
Speaker 2: bills are in the market for defensive, LINEMAN i think

1536
01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:45,320
Speaker 2: we all feel like the best of the bunch are

1537
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:46,680
Speaker 2: going to be off the board by the time you

1538
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:50,479
Speaker 2: get down to. Thirty but that leaves that leaves this,

1539
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:53,800
Speaker 2: question what's going to be there at? Corner, because Like Will,

1540
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:57,120
Speaker 2: johnson even though some people think he's the best corner

1541
01:18:57,160 --> 01:19:00,960
Speaker 2: in the, draft there are some detractors he didn't. Have

1542
01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:03,599
Speaker 2: To greg's, point WHICH i would agree with having watched

1543
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:06,439
Speaker 2: twenty three and twenty four, tape he did play better

1544
01:19:06,479 --> 01:19:08,599
Speaker 2: in twenty three than in twenty. Four and maybe it's

1545
01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:11,680
Speaker 2: because he was already nursing that turf toe injury that

1546
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:13,800
Speaker 2: eventually sidelined. Him maybe that's the.

1547
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:16,479
Speaker 3: Reason you gotta find that.

1548
01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:16,680
Speaker 8: Out.

1549
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:20,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah but if he slides to sixteen and he's

1550
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:23,160
Speaker 2: the first corner off the, board because If New england

1551
01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:26,120
Speaker 2: Drafts Travis, hunter he's playing. Offense they Had Carlton davis

1552
01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:28,640
Speaker 2: And Christian gonzales at a, corner they gotta line them

1553
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:32,360
Speaker 2: up at receiver and help their. Quarterback, Yeah so If

1554
01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:36,439
Speaker 2: johnson's the first corner off the board at like, SIXTEEN i,

1555
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:38,640
Speaker 2: mean what are we looking at john A baron at

1556
01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:41,599
Speaker 2: maybe like twenty, three twenty, Four and then we're getting,

1557
01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:44,640
Speaker 2: it getting like the third or fourth best corner in

1558
01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:45,280
Speaker 2: the class.

1559
01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:49,840
Speaker 3: Thirty, like that's. Hard it's hard to pass. Up and

1560
01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:52,880
Speaker 3: it will be all of those corners That greg really

1561
01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:55,240
Speaker 3: liked at the, top the ones that we Trade, yeah

1562
01:19:55,280 --> 01:19:59,400
Speaker 3: that we purposely, highlighted not just because they're perceived to

1563
01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:02,240
Speaker 3: be the census top, five top seven, corners but LIKE i,

1564
01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:05,880
Speaker 3: said probably going to be either within striking distance where

1565
01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:08,920
Speaker 3: a tiny trade up would be, necessary or like we're,

1566
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:11,640
Speaker 3: saying could be the third or fourth corner off the

1567
01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:14,639
Speaker 3: board at a position group at pick. Thirty that's really

1568
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:18,400
Speaker 3: good value just looking at. It, theoretically to get the

1569
01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:21,240
Speaker 3: fourth player off the board late in round, one you

1570
01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:24,320
Speaker 3: almost would sign up for, that especially at a clear

1571
01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:25,760
Speaker 3: need position for The.

1572
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:28,320
Speaker 2: Bills at a premium, position, yes for, sure where you

1573
01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 2: would have cost control for five years as well by

1574
01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:34,479
Speaker 2: making him a first round. Pick the one THING i

1575
01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:37,679
Speaker 2: didn't get a chance to Ask greg about Concerning Trey,

1576
01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:43,880
Speaker 2: amos AND i wonder if for pro personnel, executives if

1577
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:46,840
Speaker 2: they look at this as a as a. Positive but

1578
01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:50,240
Speaker 2: a guy Like Trey amos goes From louisiana To alabama

1579
01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:54,720
Speaker 2: To Ole, miss played in three defensive, systems is that

1580
01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:59,719
Speaker 2: viewed as a positive because he's been through that process

1581
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:03,400
Speaker 2: multiple times he's going to have to do again when

1582
01:21:03,439 --> 01:21:06,920
Speaker 2: he gets to THE. Nfl i'm wondering if teams almost

1583
01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:09,640
Speaker 2: view some of these kids that are living in the

1584
01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:12,680
Speaker 2: transfer portal as a. Positive you want to find out

1585
01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 2: why they, transferred because you don't want some guy that

1586
01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:17,439
Speaker 2: every time the wind blows the wrong, Way i'm out of.

1587
01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:20,280
Speaker 2: Here you don't want that kid. Either but from a

1588
01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:26,920
Speaker 2: defensive retention, standpoint learning a scheme and playing and making,

1589
01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:30,200
Speaker 2: plays and this kid did it at three different schools

1590
01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:33,720
Speaker 2: year to year to. YEAR i got to think that's

1591
01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:34,479
Speaker 2: viewed almost as a.

1592
01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:37,040
Speaker 3: Positive, YEAH i could see that being a huge, positive

1593
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:40,519
Speaker 3: especially coming off that conversation With greg and that we

1594
01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:44,600
Speaker 3: got really down to the nitty gritty of how challenging

1595
01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:48,200
Speaker 3: mentally playing zone. Is and he highlighted That Trey amos

1596
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:51,000
Speaker 3: is really good in zone AND i totally agree. That,

1597
01:21:51,439 --> 01:21:55,120
Speaker 3: YES i think going into three different, programs different competition

1598
01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:59,160
Speaker 3: level and never really seeing a blip and not seeing,

1599
01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 3: hey now he's AT. A now he's At Ole Miss,

1600
01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:03,680
Speaker 3: oh he's playing LSU's wide, receivers he's not quite as.

1601
01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:07,720
Speaker 3: Good it was all pretty consistent in a completely new.

1602
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:10,000
Speaker 3: System he's going to learn a new system potentially In

1603
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:13,160
Speaker 3: buffalo or whatever team drafts. Him so for as much as,

1604
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:16,639
Speaker 3: Yes brandon being the scouting department here In, buffalo they're

1605
01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:18,600
Speaker 3: going to find. Out you, know why'd you? Transfer was

1606
01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:21,400
Speaker 3: it just you'r afraid of? Adversity you run away from.

1607
01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:23,880
Speaker 3: It you can't have. That but you're absolutely, Right chris

1608
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:28,400
Speaker 3: THAT i think the ability to transition and learn a new,

1609
01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:30,639
Speaker 3: scheme grasp it quickly and then go and make plays

1610
01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 3: instinctively or let it become second, nature Like greg, said

1611
01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:37,080
Speaker 3: is absolutely paramount at that specific.

1612
01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:40,880
Speaker 2: Position let's jump into The friday fan mail bag to

1613
01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:44,040
Speaker 2: see what questions you have, there And henry asks which

1614
01:22:44,120 --> 01:22:49,080
Speaker 2: first round prospects have the highest flop? Potential Aaron mabin

1615
01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:51,280
Speaker 2: types that are perhaps too skinny in the lower, body

1616
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:54,840
Speaker 2: more athlete than football. Player you, know it's, funny this

1617
01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:58,160
Speaker 2: is not something you actively try to look for in

1618
01:22:58,240 --> 01:23:00,759
Speaker 2: a draft, prospect LIKE i wonder what this guy's flop

1619
01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:05,680
Speaker 2: potentially it's. Like but usually it's players that have a

1620
01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:09,160
Speaker 2: small body of work who maybe have one big. Year

1621
01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:11,760
Speaker 2: you hear the one year wonder term come out all the,

1622
01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:17,240
Speaker 2: time and that was What Aaron mabin. Was so that's

1623
01:23:17,320 --> 01:23:21,120
Speaker 2: why a lot of personnel execs like to see a

1624
01:23:21,280 --> 01:23:24,320
Speaker 2: strong body of. Work that's why everybody's talking About Shamar,

1625
01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:30,280
Speaker 2: Stewart Like STUART i think has bust. Potential why because

1626
01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:33,439
Speaker 2: he doesn't have the on the field production and he's

1627
01:23:33,479 --> 01:23:37,280
Speaker 2: built like An adonnas with uncommon athletic. Ability but if

1628
01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:40,519
Speaker 2: you watch his, TAPE i think there are examples where

1629
01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:43,000
Speaker 2: it doesn't look like he has a pass rush. Plan

1630
01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:46,640
Speaker 2: it looks like he's just running around willy, nilly and

1631
01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:49,719
Speaker 2: it's just, like oh my, god that's What Aaron mabin

1632
01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:52,519
Speaker 2: used to. Do he'd go one hundred miles an, hour

1633
01:23:52,920 --> 01:23:54,040
Speaker 2: but he just didn't know where he was.

1634
01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:57,200
Speaker 3: Going, yeah that's the probably the most marquee one in this,

1635
01:23:57,360 --> 01:24:00,600
Speaker 3: class and he's probably just because we we all have

1636
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:03,679
Speaker 3: realized just being fans of the, draft the first round

1637
01:24:03,720 --> 01:24:05,719
Speaker 3: is all about, traits and like you're, mentioning his traits

1638
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:06,800
Speaker 3: are absolutely through The.

1639
01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:08,439
Speaker 2: Oh he's going to get drafted in the first. Round

1640
01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:11,000
Speaker 2: somebody's going to believe they can make a productive player

1641
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:11,240
Speaker 2: out of.

1642
01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:14,479
Speaker 3: Him IF i were A, GM i would shy away from.

1643
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:16,120
Speaker 3: Those that's not to say THAT i would draft the

1644
01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:18,559
Speaker 3: worst athlete in the class who's a great football, player

1645
01:24:19,160 --> 01:24:21,920
Speaker 3: because there is a requisite level of athleticism you need

1646
01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:24,679
Speaker 3: in THE, nfl and most of the all pro types

1647
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:27,160
Speaker 3: are the big time. Athletes but to your, point AND

1648
01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:29,160
Speaker 3: i think it's really been across the board that you've.

1649
01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:33,120
Speaker 3: Seen anyone that's watched from Our stewart's film comes away

1650
01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:35,280
Speaker 3: thinking the same that this is not someone that's even

1651
01:24:35,360 --> 01:24:39,000
Speaker 3: close to being a nuanced enough player to come in

1652
01:24:39,080 --> 01:24:41,920
Speaker 3: in year one and be someone who lives up to

1653
01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:44,559
Speaker 3: say a top ten or a top twenty overall pick

1654
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:47,400
Speaker 3: type of. Expectations you have to do more than just

1655
01:24:47,479 --> 01:24:50,439
Speaker 3: win with your, athleticism even going from in THE sec

1656
01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:54,200
Speaker 3: to THE. Nfl and like you're, Mentioning stuart's production in THE,

1657
01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:58,160
Speaker 3: sec despite how athletic and how big and how long he,

1658
01:24:58,280 --> 01:24:59,040
Speaker 3: is was not very.

1659
01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:01,599
Speaker 2: Good, yeah four and a half sacks in his. Career

1660
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:05,479
Speaker 2: you look at that guy and you're, like what's the,

1661
01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:09,840
Speaker 2: problem what's missing? Here and you know there are examples of,

1662
01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:12,679
Speaker 2: that AND i know a familiar example For bills fans

1663
01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:16,160
Speaker 2: is probably like A Tremaine edmonds physical traits through the,

1664
01:25:16,280 --> 01:25:21,160
Speaker 2: roof but not nearly as instinctive a football player as

1665
01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:26,599
Speaker 2: Say Terrell bernard Or Matt. Mullano and you're, saying, well

1666
01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:29,639
Speaker 2: that's a, shame because he's six or. Five he runs

1667
01:25:29,760 --> 01:25:33,160
Speaker 2: like a deer and he doesn't make as many plays

1668
01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:36,560
Speaker 2: As Terrell bernard because he can't key and diagnose and

1669
01:25:36,680 --> 01:25:37,000
Speaker 2: get to the.

1670
01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:37,880
Speaker 3: Football the mental.

1671
01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:41,280
Speaker 2: Stuff, yeah he doesn't anticipate and he doesn't have, Instincts

1672
01:25:41,760 --> 01:25:44,760
Speaker 2: so that player has a limited ceiling because of. That

1673
01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:50,240
Speaker 2: despite the physical, PROWESS i Think stewart kind of falls

1674
01:25:50,280 --> 01:25:52,280
Speaker 2: into that bucket unfortunately for.

1675
01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:55,240
Speaker 3: Him CAN i list one more? Quickly? Yeah, Yeah Colston.

1676
01:25:55,320 --> 01:25:56,920
Speaker 3: LOVELIN i know this is not going to be. Popular

1677
01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:59,400
Speaker 3: he's also coming off, injury, right coming off. Injury this

1678
01:25:59,479 --> 01:26:01,920
Speaker 3: is The michigan tight. End you watch him on film

1679
01:26:02,360 --> 01:26:04,360
Speaker 3: and there ARE i, MEAN i think he's a better

1680
01:26:04,439 --> 01:26:07,959
Speaker 3: football player at his position Than Shamar stewart is at defensive.

1681
01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:12,360
Speaker 3: End he's but similar and that he is, Fast he's

1682
01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:15,679
Speaker 3: smoothed down the. Sceam you look at the advanced, numbers

1683
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:17,920
Speaker 3: not a lot of yards after the catch, production WHICH

1684
01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:19,880
Speaker 3: i think in THE nfl today at tight, end that

1685
01:26:20,040 --> 01:26:22,720
Speaker 3: is almost as important as getting open because you're not

1686
01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:25,000
Speaker 3: going to get open against these linebackers or the. Safeties

1687
01:26:25,240 --> 01:26:27,240
Speaker 3: what do you do with the ball in your. Hands

1688
01:26:27,320 --> 01:26:29,479
Speaker 3: Dawson knox has made. Plays if you look at the

1689
01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:32,360
Speaker 3: top of the, position The Travis kelcey's in The George

1690
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:35,080
Speaker 3: kittle so good after the. Catch lovelin doesn't have, that

1691
01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:37,960
Speaker 3: AND i don't think he's that go up and get

1692
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:40,400
Speaker 3: it tighte that's gonna box out and win in those

1693
01:26:40,439 --> 01:26:43,439
Speaker 3: contested catch. SITUATIONS i think he's a good tight, end

1694
01:26:43,880 --> 01:26:46,160
Speaker 3: but he might go if he doesn't go to The

1695
01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:48,839
Speaker 3: chargers THAT i believe twenty. Three he could go earlier

1696
01:26:48,920 --> 01:26:50,479
Speaker 3: than that and be the second tight end off the

1697
01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:53,400
Speaker 3: board After Ty. Warren he reminds me a lot more

1698
01:26:53,439 --> 01:26:56,360
Speaker 3: Of Noah, fant who was a first rounder tested through the.

1699
01:26:56,479 --> 01:26:58,640
Speaker 3: Roof everyone thought he was going to be able to

1700
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:02,519
Speaker 3: get open every Single sunday quality, player but never quite

1701
01:27:02,560 --> 01:27:04,800
Speaker 3: lived up to that. Hype that's the one kind of,

1702
01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:08,560
Speaker 3: hot taky type of prospect THAT i think will not

1703
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:10,840
Speaker 3: live up to being a first round. Pick Colston lovelin

1704
01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:11,360
Speaker 3: the tight end For.

1705
01:27:11,439 --> 01:27:13,240
Speaker 2: Michigan All, right we got to take a break. Here

1706
01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:15,800
Speaker 2: we'll finish with a couple of questions from the mail

1707
01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:18,000
Speaker 2: bag when we return here On One Bill's, live presented

1708
01:27:18,040 --> 01:27:32,800
Speaker 2: By Colida, Health it's S Buffalo Bill's. RADIO a couple

1709
01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:35,000
Speaker 2: of questions left in the mail bag to get to

1710
01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:36,960
Speaker 2: really don't have time to take a call at this

1711
01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:39,240
Speaker 2: point because we only got a couple of. Minutes But lauren,

1712
01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:41,720
Speaker 2: asks who would Be Brandon bean's biggest get if they

1713
01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:45,519
Speaker 2: fell into the mid. Teens so you're basically talking about

1714
01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:50,639
Speaker 2: a potential top ten prospect sliding into the teens for whatever.

1715
01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:54,479
Speaker 3: Reason Mason Graham. MICHIGAN i, mean maybe crazier things have.

1716
01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:57,040
Speaker 3: Happened that would be A i, mean that's a new.

1717
01:27:57,160 --> 01:27:58,800
Speaker 3: Position he's a d tackle.

1718
01:27:58,720 --> 01:28:01,360
Speaker 2: Or maybe one of the top rushers perhaps if they.

1719
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:03,120
Speaker 3: Slip down, There James pierce Or Mike.

1720
01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:06,479
Speaker 2: Green, yeah, yeah Like Mike green would be a good get.

1721
01:28:07,160 --> 01:28:09,679
Speaker 2: There so those are probably a couple of those answers.

1722
01:28:09,720 --> 01:28:13,360
Speaker 2: There nick asks thoughts on Drafting Schavon revel at, thirty

1723
01:28:13,439 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 2: knowing it might take him a little bit of the

1724
01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:17,559
Speaker 2: season to get to game, Speed will he translate into

1725
01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:20,040
Speaker 2: a top Corner if, SO i take him. There chris

1726
01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:22,720
Speaker 2: AND i were just actually discussing this And I'm I'm

1727
01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:25,760
Speaker 2: i'm looking at it from The bills. Standpoint they need

1728
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:29,360
Speaker 2: a day one starter at corner Opposite. Benford do you

1729
01:28:29,439 --> 01:28:33,200
Speaker 2: want to mess around with a knee rehabilitation and be

1730
01:28:33,439 --> 01:28:35,800
Speaker 2: wondering all through training camp if the guy's gonna be

1731
01:28:35,800 --> 01:28:37,400
Speaker 2: able to. PLAY i know he did it In september

1732
01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:40,840
Speaker 2: and it'll be like a full, Year but how much

1733
01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:43,160
Speaker 2: does that tip the scales in his favor or out

1734
01:28:43,200 --> 01:28:43,360
Speaker 2: of his?

1735
01:28:43,479 --> 01:28:46,400
Speaker 3: Faith and that's the. Difference i'm only grading these players

1736
01:28:46,439 --> 01:28:49,960
Speaker 3: from a you, know entire league. PERSPECTIVE i love him on,

1737
01:28:50,080 --> 01:28:51,960
Speaker 3: Film he's a top fifteen player to me in this.

1738
01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:57,880
Speaker 3: Class but the real life application of this is exactly

1739
01:28:57,960 --> 01:29:00,880
Speaker 3: What chris just. Mentioned that he needs to be able

1740
01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:03,080
Speaker 3: to play it and certainly for The, bills they don't

1741
01:29:03,120 --> 01:29:05,880
Speaker 3: probably want to deal, With, hey you're not going to

1742
01:29:05,920 --> 01:29:08,360
Speaker 3: be able to play Until october Or november to be

1743
01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:09,840
Speaker 3: one hundred percent to start your.

1744
01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:12,280
Speaker 2: Career and that's what those medical rechecks In april are

1745
01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:17,040
Speaker 2: so important for because it's cements a team's opinion on a. Players,

1746
01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:20,160
Speaker 2: yes he'll be ready week. One he's good to, go,

1747
01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:23,479
Speaker 2: cleared no medical. Issues so if that happens for, him,

1748
01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:27,000
Speaker 2: yeah he'd be a very good pick at. Thirty andrews,

1749
01:29:27,000 --> 01:29:28,400
Speaker 2: SAYS i know it's a long, shot but for d

1750
01:29:28,479 --> 01:29:30,360
Speaker 2: a depth at the wide receiver, position would you take

1751
01:29:30,360 --> 01:29:33,599
Speaker 2: a chance on Bringing hunter renfro. In it's been talking about.

1752
01:29:33,439 --> 01:29:36,479
Speaker 3: Making a, COMEBACK i would consider. It but here's the.

1753
01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:38,200
Speaker 2: Thing you got to. Remember they really already have a

1754
01:29:38,280 --> 01:29:41,839
Speaker 2: slot guy In, shakir and you already have Dal, kinkaid

1755
01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:45,840
Speaker 2: that kind Of samuel And Curtis. Samuel so probably not,

1756
01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:48,519
Speaker 2: here BUT i hope he latches on somewhere and can

1757
01:29:48,640 --> 01:29:51,479
Speaker 2: resuscitate his. Career, chris thanks for helping us out. Today

1758
01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:53,920
Speaker 2: that's it for us this. Week we'll catch you back

1759
01:29:53,960 --> 01:29:54,920
Speaker 2: here On monday at one