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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal. Ull that for me, I'm

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Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty.

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Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 2: be happy.

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Speaker 3: You want to be happy for a day?

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Speaker 1: Edo State is that whoo whoom? And them and tie

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Speaker 1: Dan Rubinstein.

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Speaker 4: You know a week from today you and I are

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Speaker 4: going to start recording our previews.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, buddy.

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Speaker 4: For the twenty twenty five season. It's going to start

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Speaker 4: to get real here on the solid verbal. You won't

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Speaker 4: start hearing those previews until I guess July first, when

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Speaker 4: we're going to start rolling them out. But we thought

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Speaker 4: before we got to that point, we can't honestly in

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Speaker 4: good faith move ahead.

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Speaker 1: With our lives.

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Speaker 4: I agree without first confronting the trauma from twenty twenty four, right,

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Speaker 4: totally agree.

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Speaker 3: There is not a team in America, There is not

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Speaker 3: a fan base in America free from the experience of

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Speaker 3: being traumatized by this perfect, great, imperfect horrible sport that

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Speaker 3: is college football. And I think the healthiest thing that

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Speaker 3: we could all do as a college football universe is

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Speaker 3: acknowledge things that traumatized us from twenty twenty four, you know,

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Speaker 3: except that they hurt us and try to dig deep

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Speaker 3: and figure out why it's okay to move forward in

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Speaker 3: love and peace.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I think that compute. So look, we did an

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Speaker 4: episode like this a year ago.

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Speaker 1: It was a big hit. We decided to bring it

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Speaker 4: About a year later, we put a post out on

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Speaker 4: our Patreon at verbowlers dot com. Once again, verballers dot

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Speaker 4: com support the show continue exactly. This was one of

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Speaker 4: those free posts where as long as you're a free member,

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Speaker 4: you can read it, you can post your thoughts on it.

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Speaker 4: We didn't really want to limit this to just people

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Speaker 4: that pay via the Patreon because we care about the

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Speaker 4: entirety of the for bowler hood, Dan speak for yourself.

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Speaker 1: No, of course, we.

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Speaker 4: Want everybody to get their heads right in preparation for

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Speaker 4: this college football season. So all we did was put

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Speaker 4: a post out there said we are recording our fan

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Speaker 4: therapy episode. We're looking for your submissions. We want to

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Speaker 4: know about the college football moments that hurt you the

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Speaker 4: most last season. And Dan, let me tell you, we

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Speaker 4: were inundated with pain. Yes, a very visceral feel to

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Speaker 4: this post.

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Speaker 1: Reading through them all.

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Speaker 4: We have organized them all. We're going to try to

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Speaker 4: get through as many of them as we can. Thankfully

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Speaker 4: we had a bunch that I think revolved around similar

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Speaker 4: should also add neither Dan nor I are actual medical professionals,

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Speaker 4: so if you are having any kind of real mental

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Speaker 4: take our advice at base value. We don't know what

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Speaker 4: I am the tychiatrist and you are the psychodanalyst.

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Speaker 1: Of course, of course, in this year episode.

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Speaker 3: I thought taychiatrist was better than tychologist for the specific

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Speaker 3: We're not prescribing active medication, though you do have recommendations,

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Speaker 4: I mean I can google it. Yeah, I'll see what

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Speaker 4: I don't know if that will help with any of

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Speaker 4: if it does, we do have that sound at the ready,

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Speaker 4: You have some sounds at the ready as well. Hit

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Speaker 4: As I said, we're going to start ramping up the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is just a fair warning to all

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Speaker 3: Classic classic Maury woman claims she's definitely afraid of olives

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Speaker 4: We got dozens of teams here. We had so much

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Speaker 3: Is this the clip of Pat McAfee whiffing against a

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Speaker 3: I would love the opportunity to face a superb elite

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Speaker 4: Continue, Shane writes in been a Notre Dame fan for

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Speaker 3: That's plot at the slat Oft scrimmage and the Huskies

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Speaker 4: I'm laughing, but deep down I'm crying, Shane.

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Speaker 4: in person at this game. It was all set up

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Speaker 4: for an amazing experience. Yes, we went for the NIU game,

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Speaker 4: the sixteen to fourteen inexplicable loss to the Huskies.

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Speaker 1: Vent I you, Dan, can I ask you?

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Speaker 3: I can't ask this listener, But if you're gonna speak

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Speaker 4: Yes and yes, Yes and yes, because winning all those

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Speaker 3: Right, or to like a team of that size, a

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Speaker 4: So my only point is definitely, like these G five

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Speaker 3: I don't think there's an opponent on Notre Dame schedule.

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Speaker 3: Here are some of the schools that Arkansas is using.

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Speaker 4: what you're saying the euclus Yeah yeah, all right, next,

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Speaker 4: Where do you want to go next?

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Speaker 1: You've got the clips? I do have the clips? Once

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Speaker 3: Let's stick with arguably the Venn diagram of exciting and ridiculous,

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Speaker 3: So Georgia Tech fans obviously felt as if and we

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Speaker 4: In state that the rivalry is that missing ingredient that

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Speaker 1: That's a tough one. That's a tough one to swallow.

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Speaker 3: Georgia Tech isn't a good place though, Like they lose

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Speaker 1: On Pitt right, So it's there, it's there.

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Speaker 4: They gotta wrap Haines King and Bubble wrap though, they

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's good times. It's high times to

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Speaker 4: The whole rivalry component definitely rearing its ugly head here.

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Speaker 4: He's got a new coach, new old coach now moving forward.

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Speaker 4: Don't know how Burt feels about that, but I think

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Speaker 4: I'm grouping these together like yes, yes, we all cheer

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Speaker 4: The highs and the lows of Pitt football. Daniel says

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Speaker 4: to get hype for this season. I just can't get

440
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:06,880
Speaker 4: over it. You're gonna have to, Daniel. I would hang

441
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 4: my hat on Eli Holstein. I would hang my hat.

442
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 4: Good starting point, right he was heard, he was dinged up.

443
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,159
Speaker 4: That definitely was a fly in the ointment down the stretch.

444
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 4: But I think having him back that that in and

445
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 4: of itself, is a reason to feel more optimistic about

446
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 4: what is ahead this year.

447
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very difficult. It was six straight losses and

448
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 3: those are all not all but Louisville was pretty good.

449
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 3: SMU was obviously good. Toledo is a world beater. They

450
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,400
Speaker 3: lost that game forty eight forty six, by the way,

451
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 3: in their bowl game around Christmas, I believe. I don't know, man,

452
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 3: there's there's still the Syracuse thing, the backyard brawl thing.

453
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,640
Speaker 3: Pit's just one of those teams where you really have

454
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 3: no or I have no handle on where they're going

455
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,679
Speaker 3: to be strong or not year to year. As soon

456
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 3: as you think, like, oh, defense canna be pretty good,

457
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 3: they're getting fifty opt on them by Toledo, and so

458
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 3: I felt like there was enough what was it des

459
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,879
Speaker 3: Reid last year? There was firepower on that offense when

460
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,880
Speaker 3: Eli Holstein was healthy. Look, they shouldn't have to come back.

461
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,160
Speaker 3: It doesn't look great against you know, last year's version

462
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 3: of West Virginia, last year's version of Cincinnati. As you know,

463
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 3: those teams did have up moments that doesn't look great,

464
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 3: but they're winning those games, and so you can say, Okay,

465
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 3: last year was our walk before we can crawl or

466
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 3: walk before we can run. And there was some there

467
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,639
Speaker 3: was a sprained ankle after that walking halfway through the season.

468
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 3: But I don't know, I think there's there's correctible elements,

469
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 3: Like they can beat Virginia, they lost to Virginia last year.

470
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 3: They can beat Boston College, although Boston College was pretty

471
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 3: feisty last year. That there's there's stuff on there that's correctable,

472
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 3: and I feel good about it as a pit observer.

473
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 3: But that's what you can feel good about as a

474
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Speaker 3: West Virginia fan. Sure, yes, we lost lost this game

475
00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,199
Speaker 3: in catastrophic fashion up ten with what was it, four

476
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:05,199
Speaker 3: or five minutes left? Yeah, five minutes, But you know,

477
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,199
Speaker 3: it's sort of like the enemy of my enemy, and

478
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 3: so like you can be friends with the back half

479
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,919
Speaker 3: of Pitt's schedule that like, at least as a consolation

480
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 3: it's not winning, but as a consolation. You can have

481
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:20,439
Speaker 3: the schadenfreud cocktail that was Pitt's November. I want to

482
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 3: talk about the calgarithm if I can please do. We

483
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:30,880
Speaker 3: got more Cal responses than I ever dreamed possible when

484
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 3: I put this post together. But cow was one of

485
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 3: these stories from a year ago was both a heartwarming

486
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,159
Speaker 3: a surprise.

487
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 4: Story that we talked a lot about on the podcast,

488
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,400
Speaker 4: as well as one of I guess heartbreak here, which

489
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 4: we're going to detail. For my money, that loss against

490
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,679
Speaker 4: Miami was one of the more traumatic things that I

491
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 4: saw as a third party observer of all of last season,

492
00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,440
Speaker 4: because I remember it distinctly. You and I I think

493
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,239
Speaker 4: had either just gotten off of a stream or we

494
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 4: were about to hop on one. Don't remember the exact

495
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 4: chronology of things, right, but I remember talking to you

496
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,360
Speaker 4: as this game was going on, and there was a

497
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 4: very real feeling of Cal is about to let this

498
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 4: slip away. You could see it happening in slow motion,

499
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 4: and it hurt. So all these messages that we got here,

500
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 4: the one from Cali saying the one month span between

501
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 4: mid September and mid October for Cal, but especially the

502
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 4: col versus Miami game, the one game day was in town.

503
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 4: If you recall the non targeting call absolutely devastated me

504
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 4: in a way that I still can't properly explain. Stacy says,

505
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 4: the Cal Miami game. We literally drove an hour and

506
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 4: a half home in complete silence there. Mike says, being

507
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,919
Speaker 4: a Cal fan in general, the Miami game, the Florida

508
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 4: State game, then losing the entire running back room to

509
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 4: the portal as we I guessed not tell you, yeah,

510
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 4: look ahead here. Ethan says the Cow Miami game. After

511
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,719
Speaker 4: the game day show, the vibes were so good on

512
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 4: campus and at halftime the fans behind me said, quote,

513
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 4: we needed a game like this, and I gotta tell you,

514
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 4: as a Cow fan, I just grimaced because I knew

515
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 4: what could happen, and then it did. Imagine Col's season

516
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 4: if we win that game. Yeah, and then sot your

517
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 4: rights in here, he says he's both a Cal edverging

518
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 4: tech fan. Watching both his teams blow leads to Miami

519
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 4: at night in consecutive weeks was a special kind of

520
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 4: gut punch Dan.

521
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not wrong. And by the way, the sidebar

522
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 3: here too is who was was it? Michael Irvin on

523
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 3: the sideline feeling all of the feelings of the cow

524
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 3: Miami game. We like to joke that our friend Ari Wasserman,

525
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,959
Speaker 3: you know, loves with his whole heart that everything he says,

526
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 3: you know, he's fully behind, at least in that moment.

527
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 3: And Michael Irvin felt all of the feelings on the

528
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,919
Speaker 3: sideline in Berkeley late night game like that came to

529
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 3: and then until after we were done with our stream

530
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 3: at like one am Eastern. So the Miami season with

531
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Speaker 3: what they did to Michael Irvin and everybody that wanted

532
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 3: Miami to win all of their games, with the way

533
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 3: they lost to Syracuse, with the way that they lost

534
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 3: to Georgia, tack with the way they beat Virginia, attack

535
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 3: with the way they beat cal with the crazy back

536
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 3: and forth nature of the like you know Cam wore

537
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,479
Speaker 3: playing the first half and you know, eking out the

538
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 3: well seeking out a loss to Iowa State in the

539
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 3: bowl game, if I have that right now. Iowa State

540
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 3: won that game. Just the swings of Miami football over

541
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 3: the course of last season was It's exhausting, I'm sure

542
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 3: for Kanes fans.

543
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, and I mean we didn't get a whole

544
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 4: lot of response from the Miami community. But for sure

545
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 4: Miami was.

546
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 1: It's a lot to handle.

547
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 4: It was trauma adjacent last season. To put it mildly right,

548
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 4: we talked about the cow game. I mean that was

549
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 4: a bit of an escape. But one of the things

550
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 4: that I found interesting and going through the replies that

551
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 4: we got, was how many were Miami adjacent?

552
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: Okay, oh ye.

553
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 4: Miami was a leading figure in the whole trauma discussion

554
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 4: from last season on a couple different fronts. But John

555
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 4: rights in with a scenario that I think is all

556
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 4: too common for people, especially for those who live in

557
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 4: the Southeast, especially for those who live in big cities

558
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 4: where a lot of big ten grads or ACC grads,

559
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 4: just big college grads tend to congregate. Dallas probably falls

560
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 4: into this camp a little bit. John says, I'm a

561
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 4: lifelong Gator fan living in South Florida. Twenty twenty four

562
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 4: was my first as a season ticket holder, working in

563
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 4: an office full of Miami fans. The Miami at Florida

564
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 4: game was much anticipated. Then the Canes proceeded to destroy

565
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 4: the Gators. I seriously considered quitting my job rather than

566
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 4: face the ridicule for Miami fans. God bless Syracuse in

567
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 4: the for animal.

568
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: Yes.

569
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Speaker 3: Well, so the way they started out this season was

570
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 3: terrible against Miami. Oh yeah, then to to be able

571
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 3: to bathe in that later on in the season and

572
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 3: just another sidebar to the sidebar just in talking about

573
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Speaker 3: Miami and cal Cal this season because we're trying to

574
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 3: like present opportunity for healing. Yeah, cal fans. Cal's got

575
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 3: the funniest possible schedule this year in the ACC. They

576
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 3: have a non conference game against San Diego State, I believe.

577
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 3: Let me make sure on this schedule they have a Yes,

578
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 3: they have a non conference game at San Diego State

579
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 3: before a non before a conference game at Boston College.

580
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 3: San Diego and Boston back to back.

581
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Speaker 1: What a year. So there's an entertainment factor.

582
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 3: They have the opportunity to beat Oregon State, former conference foe,

583
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 3: on the road in Corvallis to start the season. It

584
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 3: looks like other than SMU that they're missing Miami, the

585
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 3: missing Clemson. So they only have one trip to the Northeast.

586
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 3: So there's that they do go to Virginia Tech.

587
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: They go to Virginia Tech, but that's you know, mid Atlantic.

588
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 4: Yet Louisville, it's not quite all the way across the country.

589
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: The Northeast thing is killer to me. So I don't know.

590
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 3: There's something that maybe there's some magic with Cal. They

591
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 3: might be starting a true freshman at quarterback or Devin Brown,

592
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 3: I think from Ohio State transferred to Cal. So they

593
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 3: redid the offensive coaching staff, and Brian Harson and Nick

594
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 3: Rolovich are prominently featured with Cal, and they've had offensive success.

595
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: I don't know.

596
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 3: I think it could be another fun, weird season that

597
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 3: hopefully just in terms of the universe smiles upon the

598
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 3: Cal Bears a little bit more late in games than

599
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 3: they did last year.

600
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 4: Back to the Miami thing though, and the comment we

601
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 4: got here from John the Florida fan, Raoul writes in

602
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 4: with something else that I think is probably fairly commonplace

603
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 4: among verbola out there. Yeah, and he says, I'm not

604
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 4: writing as a Gator fan, but as an SEC fan.

605
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 4: I've worked hard to stop reflexively rooting for SEC teams

606
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 4: and out of conference games.

607
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 1: And bowl games. Okay, that's good.

608
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 4: However, any time an SEC school plays Ohio State, well,

609
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 4: those who root for SEC schools, including myself, vehemently rally

610
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 4: behind any SEC school that plays Ohio State.

611
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: I get that.

612
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 4: A few Sugar Bowls aside versus Arkansas and Bama, I've

613
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 4: gotten joy out of watching my alma mater and other

614
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 4: SEC schools beat the Buckeyes. Even Maszoo got in on

615
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 4: the fund in the twenty twenty three couple years ago.

616
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

617
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 4: Well, last year in the opening round of the CFP,

618
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 4: the Buckeyes beat the balls so badly and so comprehensively

619
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 4: that it's shaken my core as an SEC fan. I

620
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 4: am shook. I've seen teams like Pete Carroll, USC, Michigan,

621
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 4: Penn State, Oregon throttle SEC teams, but never the Buckeyes.

622
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 4: This feel of superior the SEC as a whole has

623
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 4: had over the Buckeyes feels like it's over.

624
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you had Zeke Elliott through the heart

625
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 3: of the South, right, that wasn't nothing in the first

626
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 3: year of the playoff.

627
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: I don't know.

628
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I'd be curious to hear from fans

629
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 4: out there who the team is that you just can't

630
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 4: help rooting against, whether it's got some sort of conference

631
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 4: tie in, whether it's just a personal vendetta against some

632
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,959
Speaker 4: of these teams. I realize that it's healthy for us

633
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 4: to let that type of stuff go.

634
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: But I root against Ohio State too, just as a.

635
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 4: Fan after all these years of watching Penn State lose

636
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 4: to Ohio State, after some of the baggage with Notre

637
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 4: Dame against Ohio State. Yeah, listen, I'll try to cover

638
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 4: it fairly, but I'm a fan at my core.

639
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

640
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 3: I mean, the teams at the top of the sport

641
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 3: are the ones that have the biggest targets. And it's

642
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 3: a little bit different now that Nick Saban's not there,

643
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 3: because a lot of people love to hate Nick Saban

644
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 3: and Alabama and you want to take them down because

645
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,719
Speaker 3: they're winning all these national championships, playing for all these

646
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 3: national championships. I think Ohio State is there. I think

647
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 3: there was a lot of people who didn't like Jim

648
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,760
Speaker 3: Harbaugh and Michigan, and so for that stretch, people enjoyed

649
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 3: Michigan and Jim Harbaugh losing, especially as he's you know,

650
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 3: going throughout the South and taking off his shirt and

651
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 3: going to all those satellite camps. I think Texas, obviously

652
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 3: in the Southwest and within the state of Texas, I

653
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 3: think there's a ton of joy in seeing Texas go down. Obviously,

654
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 3: Oregon has a big target on them because of the

655
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 3: attention that they get, you know, the uniforms and Phil

656
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 3: Knight and all that stuff. So I understand it. It would

657
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,760
Speaker 3: be a weird sport if we didn't have arbitrary hate

658
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,839
Speaker 3: for schools that we weren't at all associated with via

659
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 3: a rivalry or family connection. That's just part of how

660
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 3: it goes. I think Notre Dame gets.

661
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 1: A joint a conference Notre Dame.

662
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 4: I mean, Notre Dame is definitely in that category for

663
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 4: a lot of people.

664
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 1: So I get it.

665
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 3: I don't know if I have a specific team. It

666
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 3: is fun being from la and knowing a thousand USC

667
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 3: people and hearing like.

668
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 1: There's no reason USC can't be competing for national titles

669
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: every year and it's.

670
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 3: Been twenty years in a minute of mediocrity, basically it

671
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 3: has been a minute and what was it? It was

672
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 3: twenty years before Pete Carroll of mediocret, Like you know,

673
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 3: sometimes you just kind of are what you are with

674
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 3: sometime getting a blip, sometimes getting blips. So that's that's

675
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 3: entertaining to me, but it's not it's not fun for

676
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 3: me to see a USC team down. I like seeing

677
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 3: everybody have their time in the sun.

678
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 1: So I don't know. It's a good question. All Right,

679
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: we got to move on here because we got so

680
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: many of the all right, where are we going next?

681
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 1: Kind of on that.

682
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 4: Same note, we were talking about Notre Dame, we were

683
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 4: talking about Ohio State. This is probably the right time

684
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,280
Speaker 4: to bring up all the Penn State comments that we got.

685
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 4: Oh sure, Nate says, the Arts Bowl was going so well.

686
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 4: Dot dot dot don it's in. Got three Drew Hour passes.

687
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 4: One missed slightly on the outpass at the goal line

688
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 4: in the semifinals, secondly the fourth quarter pick in the semifinals,

689
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,800
Speaker 4: and third the Big Ten Championship game. Penn State downs

690
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 4: by seven coming out of the half, gets the ball

691
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 4: to start the second half. They're driving future Jets back up.

692
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 4: Drew Aller badly misses an open Tyler Warren on a

693
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 4: second down pass. Drive resulted in a missed field goal.

694
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 4: Penn State never caught up and then Andrew while at

695
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 4: the Orange Bowl late in the game, Alur did not

696
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 4: see that safety backbreaking interception. That was one of those,

697
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 4: as I described earlier, acute moments that just oh just.

698
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 3: Gets you right, because you're just gets you you force

699
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 3: enough stops from a high quality team, put yourself in

700
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 3: position to drive down and win a game in poetic fashion.

701
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 3: And so you can't help but to play out how

702
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 3: these next couple of minutes could play out. Yes, and

703
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 3: when it's immediately taken, not like taken on the eight

704
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 3: yard line. This is for all the marble's fourth and

705
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 3: goal something like that, where you're like, well, this is

706
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,399
Speaker 3: just a huge tough moment. I can't bear to watch.

707
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 3: We'll see if it works out. This is just immediate silencing, Yes,

708
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 3: before any rhythm could be generated. That's I get it.

709
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 3: I've been there. I feel it hard to forget it.

710
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 3: The good news for Penn State fans like the way

711
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 3: to get over this is a ton of guys are back. Yeah,

712
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 3: quarterback is back, big, new defensive coordinator.

713
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: Higher.

714
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 3: We've talked about Penn State ad nauseum this offseason. There's

715
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 3: a lot to love about where Penn State is as

716
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 3: a program. They've got the two toughies in Ohio State

717
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 3: and Oregon this year, but otherwise I think the non

718
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 3: conference schedule is nothing right. They're avoiding pit still. Yeah, Yeah,

719
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 3: Penn State's in a great position. They almost had the

720
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,320
Speaker 3: ability to play for a national champion up with a

721
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 3: quarterback who couldn't complete a pass to a receiver, and

722
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 3: said quarterback is back, so he's probably going to be

723
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 3: better this year.

724
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 4: I think the ceiling is still very high for Penn State.

725
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: It's great.

726
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 4: So maybe last season was a teachable opportunity, teachable moment

727
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 4: running back. Yeah, this one killed me from Jeff Michigan

728
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 4: State Michigan State fan. Going to the Big House with

729
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 4: my then girlfriend to see Michigan State lose a very

730
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 4: winnable game by making some really dumb mistakes against the

731
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 4: worst Michigan team in years did not feel great. Oh

732
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 4: and my girlfriend left me and is now a PhD

733
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,919
Speaker 4: student at Michigan. Never had more reasons to hate Ann Arbor.

734
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 4: By the way, this is I like this, this smoke

735
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 4: here at the very end. By the way, the Big

736
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 4: House was not allowed very mediocre fan atmosphere for an

737
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 4: in state rivalry game that was actually competitive this year

738
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 4: and has been competitive in the modern era.

739
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 1: Thank you Jeck, Thank you Jeff for that smoke. I

740
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 1: love it.

741
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 3: If she went to Michigan, she wasn't going to be

742
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 3: for you anyway. It sounds like long term that kind

743
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 3: of mindset was not a match, and so I I

744
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 3: understand feeling that burn, feel in that heat all these

745
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 3: months later, a year, almost almost a year later. But

746
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 3: in retrospect, you have now that you have the opportunity

747
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 3: or maybe you already had the opportunity to find somebody

748
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,439
Speaker 3: more combatible to your spartan love.

749
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: Did you say combatible? It sounds compatible. I don't know.

750
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:34,760
Speaker 1: I cut myself.

751
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 3: I cut my mouth on something last weekend, and I'm

752
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 3: not speaking totally correctly, But Michigan State should be a

753
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 3: little bit more interesting this year. In Childs Baby, Jonathan

754
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 3: Smith added Kacher two more familiar with his system offensively, Aiden,

755
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 3: Childs will probably be a little bit more mature, a

756
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 3: little bit more careful, a little bit more comfortable this year,

757
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 3: just like you should be a little bit more comfortable

758
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 3: seeking out the next love of your life.

759
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 4: That was and by the way, wonderful the way you

760
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 4: wove that together, Dan, Bravo.

761
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 3: Taste taste in a girlfriend going for her PhD means

762
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 3: smart gals are into you.

763
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 1: So that's good. There you go, right there, you go.

764
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: Look at the positive side of this jet. I'm spinning,

765
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: I'm spinning. Tie oh, excuse me. Uh the tychiatrist Taykai,

766
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 1: thank you. Do you have any of their clips?

767
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 3: Of course I do. What are you gonna get personal?

768
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 3: You got personal with both Penn State and Notre Dame.

769
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, here's get tourist Trebrian Henderson as least down the sidelines,

770
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 4: hold the nzone.

771
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:39,720
Speaker 2: It's at Crimson Emma, Pasadena, sixty six yards.

772
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,320
Speaker 4: Daniel writes in I watched the Rose Bowl of mute

773
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 4: and in silence while my wife crafted quietly next to me.

774
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: It was brutal.

775
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 4: This is not you, by the way, this is a

776
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 4: different Daniel, as far as you know, as far as

777
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:57,320
Speaker 4: I know. Alex also writes it once. Yeah it's obvious.

778
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,399
Speaker 4: But for Orgon to go undefeated only to get blown

779
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 4: off the field Ohio State and the rose Ball just

780
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 4: hurts so bad.

781
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: I'm an Oregon fan. All I know is hurt. No,

782
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,439
Speaker 1: they went thirteen to zero and won the Big Ten.

783
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: I don't. Yeah, it's not all hurt. That might be.

784
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 4: Listen, we're trying to help you get over the shows.

785
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 4: We are trying to help you get over it. So

786
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 4: I respect where you're coming from. Didn't I mean, there

787
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 4: wasn't a world of hurt last year. That game sucked,

788
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 4: but otherwise it was pretty good. That was the only loss.

789
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 3: Here's the good news. Even if that game didn't start

790
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 3: out thirty one nothing, thirty four nothing, whatever. The Crimson

791
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 3: Avalanche was Oregon in the way that they looked, in

792
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 3: the way that they seemed to prepare for this game

793
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 3: on offense and on defense. And they were beat up.

794
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 3: But everybody's beat up come January. It's not an excuse.

795
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 3: There was no universe in which they were winning that game.

796
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 3: They were losing that game by thirty, they were losing

797
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 3: that game by sixteen. They were losing that game by

798
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 3: eight or three or one or eleven. Like, It's just

799
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 3: it wasn't to be on that Rose Bowl field. And

800
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 3: so yes, they beat Ohio State and Eugene. Yes, it

801
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 3: was a sensational performance, especially by Evan Stewart who didn't

802
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 3: play in that game, who now I think has a

803
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 3: mystery injury and is either out for the season sometime.

804
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

805
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 3: So Oregon's in good shape moving forward. A new quarterback

806
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,919
Speaker 3: who seems to be going to be Dante More who

807
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 3: has a huge amount of upside, perhaps more so than

808
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 3: Dylan Gabriel, who was himself excellent for Oregon last year.

809
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 3: There's a ton to love about Oregon moving forward.

810
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,399
Speaker 1: The talent level. The recruiting schedule is pretty good. This year.

811
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 3: They don't have Ohio State in the regular season. They

812
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 3: travel to Penn State, but it's a good schedule and

813
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 3: a good team, if not a great team once again,

814
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 3: and it was so it was over so quickly. We're

815
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 3: just like, nope, they weren't ready in the correct way

816
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 3: for this. And yes it's embarrassing, and yes it can

817
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 3: be thrown in your face by people who hate Oregon

818
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 3: or Ohio State fans or whatever, but there's a certain

819
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 3: amount of peace you can have. It was like, wasn't

820
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 3: happening that day, No matter what, it was not happening

821
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 3: that day. And so Ohio State going on to win

822
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 3: the national championship in the fashion that they did. Okay,

823
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,800
Speaker 3: Oregon lost the best team, lost more emphatically than others,

824
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 3: but they lost the best team, and so there's something there.

825
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 3: And it's hard to feel bad for Oregon fans given

826
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 3: the state of Duck football in twenty twenty five. So

827
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 3: you're all right, You'll be all right. It was a

828
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 3: tough afternoon and it probably won't happen like that again.

829
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 3: But it has happened twice, the Oregon Ohio State game

830
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 3: and the Oregon Georgia game to kick off Dan Lanning's career.

831
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 4: By the way, since what are we calling Ohio State's

832
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 4: surge the Crimson Avalanche? Aren't they the scarlet and gray

833
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:48,399
Speaker 4: they are?

834
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 3: I'm not sure where that came from from Chris Fowler,

835
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 3: but I don't know. Okay, maybe he was referring to

836
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 3: the blood of Oregon running down the I don't know.

837
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 4: Speaking of Crimson Dan. Yeah, Oklahoma fan, here, M see

838
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 4: what I did there? That's a pro Yeah, Casey says,

839
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 4: I feel like I can never trust an offense again.

840
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 4: How do I heal from watching our punter be our

841
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 4: most effective quarterfans, Mason says, after so many years of

842
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 4: defensive ineptitude and offensive achievement, my Sooners show up for

843
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 4: their first SEC campaign with an elite defensive unit and

844
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 4: their worst offense of this century. A full team effort

845
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,760
Speaker 4: in creating a toothless offense, including a terrible offensive coordinator,

846
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 4: higher a thoroughly disappointing quarterback, a comical amount of injuries

847
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 4: clustered on the line in wide receiver positions. The worst

848
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 4: singular moment would be the Missouri excuse me missoo loss

849
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 4: with just a comedy of airs from everyone involved that

850
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 4: seemed at the time like it would cost Oklahoma its

851
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 4: twenty six year Bowl.

852
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: Thank you, Mason Scoop times.

853
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 4: When you hear the fireworks go off, that was really

854
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 4: insult to injury, wasn't it.

855
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: Yes, of course always.

856
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 3: I think that was also at the end of the

857
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 3: Oklahoma State Arkansas double overtime game, there were some fireworks

858
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 3: or cannons or something in the background there.

859
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 4: I get the trauma on the Oklahoma side. Oklahoma had

860
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 4: a little bit of all the traumas that I described earlier,

861
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 4: some of those very specific ones that happened in a moment,

862
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 4: some of the more drawn out, slow motion types that

863
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,280
Speaker 4: have you questioning where's the bottom?

864
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 1: Will there be a bottom?

865
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 4: And then on top of it, as Mason points out,

866
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 4: to do it in your first year going into the

867
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 4: SEC was definitely the kind of thing that sticks with you.

868
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 4: That being said. That being said, if we're out here

869
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 4: trying to heal, you should feel good knowing that Brent

870
00:45:58,719 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 4: Vnables did not.

871
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 1: Just rest on his laurels. This offseason.

872
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 4: Okay, they went out, they got John Mattier. They went out,

873
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 4: they got Ben Arbuckle, john Matier's offensive coordinator. They not

874
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 4: most recently in the spring portal, they bring him over

875
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 4: from Cal So they're at least trying now. Whether or

876
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 4: not it materializes, we'll get back to you, but their

877
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 4: heart is in the right place. And I think I

878
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 4: would take solace if I were a Sooners fan knowing

879
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 4: that they're at least going out after the thing that

880
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:26,240
Speaker 4: we think needs to get better.

881
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: I hear you.

882
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 3: It's got to be so strange for Oklahoma fans having

883
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 3: the run that they did on offense and at quarterbacks, specifically,

884
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 3: watching an Oklahoma quarterback win the Super Bowl Oklahoma slash

885
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 3: Alabama and Jalen Hurts right, you know, seeing the guys

886
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 3: and Kyler Murray and Baker Mayfield and the receivers and

887
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 3: the running backs and your Hollywood Browns, and you're Rodney

888
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 3: Anderson whatever, Joe Mixon, and then as the page turns,

889
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 3: he's like, we're a defensive team now. You're just like,

890
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm comfortable with it.

891
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 4: It's like when Richie starts wearing suits and the like

892
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 4: I'm a suit guy.

893
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: Now, Okay, the rebrand did this happen? Right?

894
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 3: When Lolo Jones is, you know, running a bob sled

895
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 3: down the ice.

896
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, she did that right.

897
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 4: Wrap all these things that happened and just say Shack

898
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 4: is a shack for being an athlete a non full

899
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 4: time rapper.

900
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: Was fine.

901
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:25,280
Speaker 4: I think I never got used to that. But fine, continue,

902
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 4: But that was just like a side hustle.

903
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 3: That wasn't like this is who I am now, that

904
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 3: was a side hustle, but Itazam Shazam was.

905
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 4: The worst movie I've ever seen in my life, full stop.

906
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 4: When Shaq made that turn into entertainment, at least as

907
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 4: a recording artist. As an actor, I love money inside.

908
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 4: The NBA is great on that, but uh, that whole

909
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 4: era of Shack was not really for me.

910
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 1: Right.

911
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 3: No, We've seen dramatic actors try comedy out and vice versa,

912
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 3: and it does not always work. So Oklahoma's just looking

913
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 3: for their drama y balance, right. They're just looking to

914
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:06,399
Speaker 3: figure out who they can be moving forward. And there's

915
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 3: a lot to like about the moves they made. I

916
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 3: would love for them to have a little bit more

917
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 3: poppet receiver, a little more depth and meet and along

918
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 3: the offensive line. But it seems that slowly but surely

919
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:23,320
Speaker 3: the neutral is going into drive for Oklahoma's offense.

920
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 1: You got any other clips for us?

921
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 3: I do have another clip. I believe this is the

922
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 3: one right here.

923
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 2: Just stay alive, Ken, they hook them touchdown?

924
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 1: Who Matthew Golden fourth and thirteen?

925
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 4: Man, I say that one. I felt that one again. Yeah,

926
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 4: on the replay here. Yes, the trauma is yours if

927
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:50,720
Speaker 4: you are an ASU fan. We got a couple comments

928
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 4: about this one from Mark, from Bobby. It was sort

929
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 4: of two things that went hand in hand, right.

930
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:00,080
Speaker 3: It wasn't from Kenny though. It wasn't from Kenny Dillyham. Okay,

931
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 3: just make it.

932
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 4: Sure Kenny is still blacked out from that one. Yeah,

933
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,800
Speaker 4: but two things that went down. The first was the

934
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:11,760
Speaker 4: fourth and thirteen conversion. Okay, just Texas being able to convert.

935
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 1: And then on top.

936
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 4: Of it, it happening after that very bizarre no call

937
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:22,359
Speaker 4: on what I thought was an obvious targeting foul. Right,

938
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 4: so Mark writes in this as an ASU fan, it

939
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 4: can only be the fourth and thirteen in overtime in

940
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 4: the Peach Bowl had not allowed myself to hope for

941
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 4: more all year long. But it really felt like we

942
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 4: were about to shock the world until we decided to

943
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 4: dial up that zero blitz. Alas yeah, crying emoji, and

944
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 4: then Bobby says the targeting non call in the Peach Bowl,

945
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 4: followed by yes the conversion on the fourth and thirteen.

946
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 3: So I mean, I mean, this is the heartbreak that

947
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 3: comes with letting yourself be vulnerable and be hurt. Right

948
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 3: that it's fourth and thirteen, in your mind is like

949
00:49:59,520 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 3: is it?

950
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 1: This is it?

951
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 3: We've arrived, we've landed, everything is going great, and it's

952
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 3: just this one play and Quinn yours has been up

953
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 3: and down. This offense has been up and down, started quickly,

954
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 3: you know, sort of slid to a halt. And you know,

955
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 3: while there's obviously great players on this offense, ASU's defense

956
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 3: has done a really nice job figuring things out, you know,

957
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 3: leaning on Cam scattaboo on offense, and fourth and thirteen

958
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 3: thirteen yards of so many yards, Like Asu was right there,

959
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 3: I'm ready to be loved, I'm ready to be hurt

960
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 3: and hurt Asu, Quinn, you weres dead.

961
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 4: This was I mentioned earlier specific moments that I remember

962
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 4: I remember this moment. Yeah, I remember where I was,

963
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 4: I remember how it made me feel. I think, if

964
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 4: you weren't a Texas fan, if you weren't an SEC

965
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 4: fan rooting for Texas, right, or just somebody in the

966
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 4: state of Texas who was rooting for Texas. Yeah, the

967
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 4: vast majority of the people were rooting for ASU in

968
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 4: that moment because as you looked at the college football

969
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,879
Speaker 4: playoff bracket, it didn't seem like there was a whole

970
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 4: lot of room for upsets.

971
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 1: And we know upsets are kind of the life blood

972
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: of this thing.

973
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 4: And so we were pulling I will say weak because

974
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 4: I probably was in this boat in the moment, pulling

975
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 4: for Arizona State to keep it interesting, to make it interesting.

976
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they did. I mean they had this game.

977
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:29,359
Speaker 1: They had this game.

978
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 4: They played their hearts out between Cam Skataboo and Sam

979
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 4: Levit and you know all of the madness that transpired

980
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:38,240
Speaker 4: in this Peach Bowl.

981
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 3: And it would mean ASU winning would mean them sort

982
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 3: of kicking open the door and getting into a club

983
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 3: that has almost regularly or routinely featured like nine teams

984
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 3: that's right in like the semi finals, quarterfinal, you know,

985
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 3: the best four six, eight teams.

986
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a terrible no call. I agree, it

987
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 4: was a terrible no call. As Mark says, the zero

988
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 4: blitz did not work. So yes, it was a rather

989
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 4: disappointing sequence that served as the cherry on top of

990
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 4: an incredible finish to that game.

991
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 1: If you're an Arizona State.

992
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 4: Fan, yes, if you're an ASU fan, look, I mean

993
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 4: Kenny Dillingham, I think he told Pete Nakos he thinks

994
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 4: that they're like the next big program.

995
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: Why not. He thinks they're the next big thing.

996
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 4: And you know what, the Big twelve is still pretty

997
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 4: damn wide open, Dan, he could be right about that.

998
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 4: He's got a really exciting quarterback and Sam Levitt coming back.

999
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,479
Speaker 4: He gets Sam Levitt, by the way, gets his wide

1000
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 4: receiver one back Tyree. Yeah, Jordan Tyson, by some accounts

1001
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 4: as the best receiver in the upcoming draft class.

1002
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: Wow, didn't know that.

1003
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 4: Okay, Right, So there's a lot I think to be

1004
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 4: excited about. And Kenny Dillingham is a lifer. He's not

1005
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 4: going anywhere. I'm sure if he wanted to, he could,

1006
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:01,840
Speaker 4: but he's not. So it's high times for ASU. He

1007
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 4: has turned this thing around. A lot quicker than anybody

1008
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:10,320
Speaker 4: thought possible. Do not be so focused on the overtime

1009
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 4: sequencing in that playoff game and instead look at the

1010
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 4: bigger picture, which I think is pretty exciting.

1011
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1012
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 3: No, it definitely felt like ASU was there, and you know,

1013
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 3: to not have Cam Skataboo back and to lose a

1014
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 3: couple key players that this was definitely an ASU team

1015
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 3: that could compete with the country's best. If you're competing

1016
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 3: with Texas, what close Texas was and ASU was competing, Yeah.

1017
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:38,359
Speaker 4: Especially Dan, especially down the stretch because you know, as

1018
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 4: we were talking through what was transpiring throughout the course

1019
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 4: of the season, Yeah, it was a lot of like

1020
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 4: HEYSU could actually like sneak into this thing, right. Sure,

1021
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 4: you know we had weird tiebreakers because they all got

1022
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:53,240
Speaker 4: rid of their divisions and whatnot, But we watched extra

1023
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 4: closely on that Big twelve and as you finding its

1024
00:53:58,000 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 4: way into the game and then equitting itself as well

1025
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 4: as did I think in and of itself like that,

1026
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 4: that's a well.

1027
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 3: They're also huge scene as like a participation trophy team

1028
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 3: because they got the seating bump after not being ranked

1029
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 3: in the top four, but they got the seating bump

1030
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 3: to being a top four seed given last year's rules.

1031
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 4: A huge win, A huge win for that program. Speaking

1032
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:22,320
Speaker 4: of Texas, Okay, what do you have? You know what

1033
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say with Texas.

1034
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 1: I do think I think there's the ending of the

1035
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 1: Ohio State.

1036
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 4: Game, Ray writes in it, says Longhorn fan watching them

1037
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 4: methodically march down the field tie the game before half,

1038
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 4: only for Ohio State to run a screen pass for

1039
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 4: seventy five yards, then to once again march down to

1040
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,439
Speaker 4: the red zone. At the end of the game, run

1041
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 4: a horrible toss play to lose yards, only to sit

1042
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 4: and watch in horror as Jack Sawyer comes around the

1043
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 4: corner to blind side yours.

1044
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a moment.

1045
00:54:56,000 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 4: That was a moment in time, Texas fans. I don't

1046
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:03,399
Speaker 4: know what the future in twenty twenty five has in store.

1047
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,800
Speaker 4: I don't know how long Arch Manning will be on campus.

1048
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 4: It seems as if Steve Sarkisian has cranked this thing

1049
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:14,240
Speaker 4: up to a point where they've hit something of critical mass.

1050
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,720
Speaker 4: The floor has been raised effectively on that Texas program

1051
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 4: thanks to suck. But that moment, that moment is going

1052
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 4: to stick with you especially if they get back.

1053
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 1: To the playoffs this year.

1054
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, especially because even if Texas is loaded, I think

1055
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:36,919
Speaker 4: they're loaded. Those are the types of moments that are

1056
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 4: caught in the deep dark corners of your mind. And

1057
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 4: even if you feel like things are trending in a

1058
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:47,919
Speaker 4: positive direction, you've got all the momentum, you still think

1059
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 4: back to I hope that doesn't happen again. I hope

1060
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 4: something like this does not happen again in a high

1061
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 4: leverage moment some with your ray if you're trying to

1062
00:55:57,719 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 4: heal from atal I could say is Texas is going

1063
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:01,360
Speaker 4: to be loaded again, and you've got Arch Manning, wh

1064
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 4: might be a better quarterback. And there's a lot to

1065
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 4: like about Texas obviously, but I mean there's also moments

1066
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 4: like this are really tough to come back from, just

1067
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:10,359
Speaker 4: as a fan.

1068
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 3: The Texas stretches last year, though, as good of a

1069
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 3: season as it was, so there's the moments like Jack

1070
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 3: Sawyer and running the ball back in the screen right

1071
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:23,360
Speaker 3: before halftime, which Texas just looked super lost on. Defensively,

1072
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 3: Texas's offensive line was overwhelmed against Georgia in that first

1073
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 3: game that they just looked like they were on skates.

1074
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:34,800
Speaker 3: They didn't know where Georgia players were coming from. Losing

1075
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 3: the SEC championship game. So good of Texas to get

1076
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 3: to that game. Yeah, losing to Gunner Stockton in Georgia late, Yeah, exactly,

1077
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 3: that's a moment that's hard to get over. And then,

1078
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 3: of course the way that they lost Ohio State. So

1079
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 3: it's tough if you're a Texas fan from Afar. I

1080
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 3: think I am from Afar to say what a year

1081
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four was when there was that very very

1082
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 3: specific that I'm still sure ling still. Yeah, I'm positive

1083
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 3: it's still lingering. Oh yeah, all right, let me go

1084
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 3: rapid fire through a few of.

1085
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 1: These other ones. I'm ready.

1086
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:10,399
Speaker 4: We got a bunch of Texas A and M people

1087
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 4: writing in a specifically about the Texas game.

1088
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 1: Okay, so that was a nice moment for Texas. Yeah.

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00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 4: Evan says he waited thirteen years for A and M

1090
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 4: to play Texas, just hoping and dreaming for a chance

1091
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 4: to redeem ourselves. After the last second loss. In twenty eleven,

1092
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:31,439
Speaker 4: the Aggies rewarded that with being shutout offensively at home.

1093
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 4: Another Thanksgiving weekend devastated.

1094
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 1: Just like old times. Okay, thank you Evan. Yeah.

1095
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 4: Darryl writes in says he's an A and M grad

1096
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 4: season ticket holder, wasn't happy about the Longhorns joining the SEC.

1097
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 4: Wasn't looking forward to our game with them. I told

1098
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 4: my brother before the game that it wouldn't be fun,

1099
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 4: but rather just four hours of anxiety. That's exactly what

1100
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 4: it was. It was not fun at all. Yes, and

1101
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 4: then Kyle writes in more broadly, just injuries to A

1102
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 4: and m's offensive line early in the Notre Dame game,

1103
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 4: also Levion Moss going down against South Carolina and the

1104
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 4: momentum completely shifting against US. A and M had some

1105
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:18,479
Speaker 4: moments last year. If you're an A and M fan,

1106
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 4: how do you feel about year one under Mike Elco?

1107
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 1: I feel okay.

1108
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 3: So it's hard for me to put myself in that

1109
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 3: position because for me from afar, A and M late

1110
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 3: was in it to get to the SEC championship game.

1111
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 3: They very much were, with a defense that had some

1112
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 3: terrific moments but also some regrettable second halves, with you know,

1113
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 3: starting running back going down almost immediately to start the season,

1114
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 3: and it being a first year head coach, you just

1115
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 3: sort of you hope to see a vision, you hope

1116
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 3: to see proof of concept, and they just kind of

1117
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 3: kept on chugging, like there was no shame in losing

1118
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 3: to Notre Dame other than the fact that that was

1119
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 3: like a semi winnable game at home to start the year.

1120
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 1: But it's game one, so.

1121
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 3: Like you're encouraged. Recruiting has been good. So I think

1122
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 3: if you're able to separate reality from your very real pain,

1123
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 3: the outlook is bright. But if you look at the

1124
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 3: specific kind of pain involved in not scoring an offensive

1125
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:26,439
Speaker 3: touchdown against Texas after all that time off, the only

1126
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 3: thing that can fix that is beating Texas and scoring

1127
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 3: thirty plus points. The only thing that can truly fill

1128
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 3: that wound, fill that hole in your heart, is doing

1129
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 3: the exact opposite.

1130
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 1: This year, I think.

1131
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 4: Let's talk a little Texas State trauma, shall we? Okay,

1132
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 4: Heather rights in Texas State losing to Sam Houston forty

1133
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 4: to thirty nine. I remember that game. Of course, I

1134
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 4: was big on Texas State last year. It was the

1135
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 4: restart of the biggest rivalry US Bobcats had in the

1136
00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 4: FCS Southland days. More importantly, and this is where it

1137
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 4: gets funny. D in my high school X went there,

1138
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 4: so when I logged into Facebook, him trash talking was

1139
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 4: the very first thing I saw, especially brutal since I

1140
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 4: spent all off season talking about how the Bearcats went

1141
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 4: three and nine the year before.

1142
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 3: Ty Are you do you follow or are friends with

1143
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 3: any of your your former flames on social media?

1144
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 1: It's funny you should ask that.

1145
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 4: I did just check as we were going through this,

1146
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 4: and it appears that the answer is yes.

1147
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 1: On which platform Facebook? Facebook? Is that?

1148
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 3: Do you accidentally come across a post from whoever this

1149
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 3: young lady is?

1150
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 4: I believe I hid this person many months ago, so

1151
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 4: I no longer get any of those updates, which is

1152
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 4: what I would advise Heather to do if it's still

1153
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 4: sort of the thing that causes trauma, especially you have

1154
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 4: especially during college football season.

1155
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 3: You know, I would say if you have any sort

1156
01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 3: of even a tiny, make roscopic amount of bad blood

1157
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 3: with anyone when a relationship, an important relationship, maybe an

1158
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 3: X from high school isn't that important, But if there

1159
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 3: was any actual real world love trauma, TI, you gotta unfriend,

1160
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 3: you gotta unfollow, you gotta block. There's no good reason

1161
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 3: to have that lingering as a possibility in your life.

1162
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:23,439
Speaker 3: That like, oh, here's a post from a wedding. Here

1163
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 3: are her kids. You're like, no, no, gotta move forward.

1164
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 3: It's it's the Bill Belichick. If there's anything he said,

1165
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 3: there's two.

1166
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:32,720
Speaker 4: Things he says, Yes, let's take Bill Belichick's advice on

1167
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 4: love and relationships, shall we.

1168
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 3: The first thing that you gotta on what do you

1169
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 3: say on to Cincinnati? Yeah, you're just onto the next day, right,

1170
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 3: you gotta be onto the next day. The other thing

1171
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 3: I think that's very wise of him to say was

1172
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 3: how old are you? That was probably really smart of

1173
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 3: him to ask at some point. Yeah, that's you gotta unfriend,

1174
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 3: you gotta block, you gotta you gotta mute, you gotta unfollow,

1175
01:01:57,440 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 3: whatever you gotta do. There's no reason if anybody calls

1176
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 3: you pain, you can't have it online.

1177
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 4: Derek Derek right sane, He says, as a BYU fan,

1178
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 4: I need to get the loss to Kansas off my chest.

1179
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 4: A quarterback punt bouncing off a DB's helmet is one

1180
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 4: of the wildest ways to lose a game, and I'm

1181
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 4: not sure if I fully recovered. He's not wrong about

1182
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 4: this one, Dan, that was a hell of a way

1183
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 4: to lose a game.

1184
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely wouldn't worship wish it on my I would

1185
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 3: wish it on my worst enemy, but not like my

1186
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 3: third worst.

1187
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 4: Enemy, Brandon says the end of the opener between Minnesota

1188
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 4: and North Carolina. Yeah, a big run into a chip

1189
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 4: shot field goal which was called back for holding, followed

1190
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 4: by the ragining Big Ten kicker of the year missing

1191
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:49,240
Speaker 4: a forty seven yarder to win it. Dropping the opener

1192
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 4: on national television carrying an eighty six percent postgame win

1193
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 4: expectancy shifted the vibes on the entire season. In the end,

1194
01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 4: it was a difference between seven and eight wins, which

1195
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:03,240
Speaker 4: is right on the dividing line between a shrug emoji

1196
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 4: and a good season.

1197
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 1: Thank you, Brandon.

1198
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Minnesota had an interesting enough year. There's

1199
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 3: a lot of new faces at Minnesota this year and

1200
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:14,439
Speaker 3: they just kind of keep winning. But they were within

1201
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 3: a point of eventual Big Ten runners up and playoffs

1202
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 3: semi finalists Penn State twenty six to twenty five.

1203
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 1: There's a lot to like.

1204
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 3: Minnesota bounced back and had a quality season, but yeah,

1205
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 3: that North Carolina game absolutely winnable.

1206
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 4: We've got one here from Andrew Rutgers getting the best

1207
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 4: possible schedule from the Big Ten, avoiding all four teams

1208
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 4: that made the playoff, and still barely making a bowl.

1209
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 1: Can Rutgers ever break through?

1210
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:47,160
Speaker 3: Good question, don't the answers likely No, But if Andrew

1211
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 3: lives in the Garden State, you likely have access to

1212
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 3: what I would consider maybe the best pizza state in

1213
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 3: the Union. There you go, fall pizza state, not necessarily

1214
01:03:57,400 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 3: pizza style, pity sad pizza goes a long way, ask

1215
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 3: Urban Meyer.

1216
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 1: Sad pizza is pizza.

1217
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 4: Law writes in about Tulane being ranked at nine to

1218
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 4: two with a real shot at the playoff thanks to

1219
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 4: the weird playoffs setup, only to lose to Memphis and

1220
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 4: the AAC title Game two Army was just brutal, even

1221
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 4: more so when it was revealed after the Army game

1222
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:24,280
Speaker 4: that Darian Mensa had already packed his bags and left

1223
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:27,440
Speaker 4: the team and really had mentally checked out before that

1224
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:28,439
Speaker 4: huge Memphis game.

1225
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:32,960
Speaker 3: Right, not gonna lie. That seemed very painful. By the future, again,

1226
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 3: I think Tulane has what we considered to be a

1227
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:39,440
Speaker 3: pretty great coach. Don't know how long he's going to

1228
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 3: be in town, but the short term future still seems

1229
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:45,680
Speaker 3: decently bright. If you're a Tulane fan. The MENSA thing

1230
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 3: is not fun. The end of that season nine and two,

1231
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 3: they got like shelled by Army, right, Yeah in the

1232
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 3: title game. Yeah, not a great way to end the year.

1233
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 3: But I think there's still a lot of quality in

1234
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 3: New Orleans.

1235
01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 4: Let me rip through a few of these here real

1236
01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 4: quick and we'll find this thing down. Sean writes in

1237
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 4: LSU fans still reeling from the three game skid when

1238
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 4: the team came off the rails. We've got a couple

1239
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 4: here from Washington fans. Robert in particular says, as a

1240
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 4: Washington fan, losing the Apple Cup was pretty rough, not

1241
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:22,920
Speaker 4: for the loss from a Washington perspective, but more for

1242
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 4: the hope and playoff joy it gave Washington State.

1243
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 1: I love this, I get this, I get it. This

1244
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 1: is great smoke from Robert. Yeah.

1245
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 4: The hope and playoff joy it gave Washington State before

1246
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 4: their month long downfall at the end of the season.

1247
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, losing their offensive coordinator, losing their quarterback to punctuate

1248
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 3: at all.

1249
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:44,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, good good stuff there.

1250
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 4: Justin wrote in just broadly speaking about Ohio State losing

1251
01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:50,720
Speaker 4: for the fourth year and rode to Michigan By the way,

1252
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 4: a Michigan team that looked like their quarterback learned that

1253
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:58,360
Speaker 4: the forward pass existed only moments before game time. It

1254
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 4: was absolutely infuriating. It. We didn't even talk enough about that.

1255
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 4: We talked a lot about Ohio State and some of

1256
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 4: the bigger market schools here. But yeah, losing that game,

1257
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 4: I get that there is trauma with that. Of course,

1258
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:14,040
Speaker 4: college sports tonight weighing in on Oklahoma State, who we

1259
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:17,280
Speaker 4: referenced a couple times in passing. Being told your team

1260
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 4: is a great chance at winning a conference championship and

1261
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 4: ultimately not being anywhere close. Yeah, season long disappointment. Yes,

1262
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 4: so that is trauma, but over quickly, over quickly, you knew.

1263
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 1: Ryan says.

1264
01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 4: I was at work during the Baylor Colorado game. Work

1265
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 4: was slow, so I was following it along even before.

1266
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 4: I still had some optimism for the season. It wasn't

1267
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:44,960
Speaker 4: fully on the Randa fire train. When Baylor gave up

1268
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:48,320
Speaker 4: the game tying touchdown, I went fully on that train. Yeah,

1269
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 4: my friends were watching the game on Discord, messaging me

1270
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 4: to see how I was doing. That's always the worst

1271
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 4: when they're asking, oh, yeah, check, how you doing. They

1272
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 4: lost the second I got into my car to go home.

1273
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 4: I jumped on the Discord call to give my biggest

1274
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:06,840
Speaker 4: and loudest rant ever. I'm happy how the season ended,

1275
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:10,439
Speaker 4: but man, I was down at the beginning. I feel

1276
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 4: you get that, totally get that.

1277
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 3: And you're not even watching the game. You're at work,

1278
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:18,479
Speaker 3: so you're just like, bad things are happening. I don't

1279
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 3: know the details. Bad stuff is going on in Boulder.

1280
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:25,360
Speaker 4: Melty, who wrote in earlier about Notre Dame, also writes

1281
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:27,840
Speaker 4: in as a Louisville fan. He says, as a Louisville

1282
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 4: fan coming off a historical win at Clemson with a

1283
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 4: bye week to prepare, looking at a nine to three

1284
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:38,000
Speaker 4: regular season with the losses to two playoff teams and

1285
01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 4: a first round pick quarterback.

1286
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:46,360
Speaker 1: And then they lose to Stanford. Yes, what Stanford?

1287
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 4: That was one of the more inexplicable losses of the year.

1288
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 3: Louisville was, I mean, very clearly a team just good

1289
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 3: enough to pull off a huge upset, but just not

1290
01:07:56,960 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 3: fully baked enough to also lose an embarrassing fan, someone

1291
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:03,880
Speaker 3: who happened to be across the country in Palo Alto,

1292
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 3: in a quiet, quiet stadium in Stanford.

1293
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 4: And let's close things out.

1294
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 1: With Dan, Okay, now youat me.

1295
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 4: On my birthday, I was flying out the Boston to

1296
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 4: see Pearl Jam at Fenway. Okay, great, And on the

1297
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:24,840
Speaker 4: plane I got to watch Notre Dame score touchdown after

1298
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:29,800
Speaker 4: touchdown against superstar Dylan Theeneman and the Perdue defense to

1299
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 4: the tune of.

1300
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:31,759
Speaker 1: Sixty six points.

1301
01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:35,719
Speaker 4: Yeah in the first FBS game for the blo.

1302
01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:37,719
Speaker 1: The subtle bitterness. Yeah. Continue.

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Speaker 4: The season was a waste after that, although I did

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Speaker 4: go to the final four Perdue fan after all. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and Pearl Jam was awesome. Okay, so it sounds like

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Speaker 4: maybe he's already healed from that trauma.

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Speaker 3: But that was that fun game. Neil Armstrong is still

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Speaker 3: a Purdue alum. Guys in the National hero as is

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Speaker 3: your brother. Same sentence in terms of aviation. Neil Armstrong

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Speaker 3: and my middle brother just step for step with each other.

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Speaker 3: You're in good company.

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Speaker 4: You're in good I worked with the guy when I

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Speaker 4: was at the old day job who was a Perdue

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Speaker 4: grad who is an engineer.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Maybe the tallest human I've ever met in

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Speaker 1: my life.

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Speaker 3: So surprisingly tall, like we talked about on our Bonus

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Speaker 3: show last week, surprisingly tall, huge, nice, guy, that's all

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Speaker 3: that surprisingly tall and by the way, just to tie

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Speaker 3: a bow on everything, because it was the Verballers who

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Speaker 3: submitted all of these dramatic points.

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Speaker 1: You can listen to a deep.

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Speaker 3: Dive on aviation with my brother the Pilot that we

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Speaker 3: recorded a year or two ago on verballers dot com.

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Speaker 3: A questions you do need to pay for that content,

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Speaker 3: but yes, yeah, that is. That is behind the paywall.

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Speaker 3: If you want the scoop on aviation and airlines in

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Speaker 3: the twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: Maybe we should bring them back. Actually in a lot

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Speaker 1: going on. Yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 4: Thank you everybody for being vulnerable with us and sending

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Speaker 4: in these moments. Hopefully just calling them out again, talking

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Speaker 4: them through again, reliving them in somewhat painstaking detail is

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Speaker 4: enough for you to get over it and get ready

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Speaker 4: for the season ahead. As I said, we're going to

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Speaker 4: start our previews when things turn over into July. The

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Speaker 4: very first episode we are going to do is going

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Speaker 4: to be almost identical to the one we did a

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Speaker 4: year ago. The intro to the twenty twenty five college

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Speaker 4: football season. What changed in the off season, what's new?

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Speaker 4: What are the big storylines, the big transfers, what are

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Speaker 4: the high level things that you need to know as

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Speaker 4: a college football fan to get ready for this season.

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Speaker 4: It's a good starting point because what we did for

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Speaker 4: a decade was just dive right in with conference previews.

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Speaker 4: But we need to set the table. You know, I'm

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Speaker 4: big on that. The context. You need to set the context.

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Speaker 4: What the whistle get things started. We will do our

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Speaker 4: intro to the twenty five season, and then we will

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Speaker 4: dive into a group of six can't wait.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that work for you done.

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Speaker 4: Reballers dot com is where you can go to further

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Speaker 4: support what Dan and I do. Thank you again everybody

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Speaker 4: who posted a comment in reply. Just because we record

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Speaker 4: the episode doesn't mean you can't still go out to

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Speaker 4: that post and leave for us in the comment thread

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Speaker 4: those moments that provided you with the most trauma last season,

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Speaker 4: the things that hurt you. Use that comment thread as

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Speaker 4: a sounding board. The verballer hood is a great community

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Speaker 4: of people that can help you along. Hit follow hit

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Speaker 4: subscribes that you don't miss any of our episodes. I

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Speaker 4: feel like one thousand pound gorilla is now off my Yeah, first.

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Speaker 1: Weight off your chest.

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Speaker 4: Yeah for that guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein,

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Speaker 4: for myself Tie Hildebrant.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for downloading, for listening, for sharing your thoughts

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Speaker 1: with us. We'll talk to y'all since stays off, Yes,