WEBVTT - Home Births and Past Lives with Lily Rabe 0:00:00.880 --> 0:00:02.840 Hi, Catherine, Hi Chelsea, how are you. 0:00:02.880 --> 0:00:05.000 Oh, we're just packing up, getting ready for summer. My 0:00:05.080 --> 0:00:08.000 house is a it's always every day I come home, 0:00:08.119 --> 0:00:10.200 there's the furniture from the living room has been put 0:00:10.200 --> 0:00:12.760 into the library. The furniture in the library is being 0:00:12.760 --> 0:00:15.360 put in the dining room. Everyone's just testing out different 0:00:15.400 --> 0:00:16.720 areas for different pieces. 0:00:16.880 --> 0:00:20.000 So it's a moving puzzle piece, right, thing is a moving. 0:00:19.800 --> 0:00:20.919 Are you in the design pace? 0:00:21.000 --> 0:00:24.240 Yeah, we are designing. Yes, the house is erect it 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:27.800 has been erected. We're not done. No, we're still not done. 0:00:27.840 --> 0:00:30.319 It will never be done, but we are closing the 0:00:30.400 --> 0:00:32.920 gap between now and done. And then I had a 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:35.080 conversation with my cousin Molly yesterday. I was trying to 0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:36.920 figure out whether or not to bring Doug to my 0:00:37.080 --> 0:00:38.920 Orca for the month of June, because I'm going to 0:00:38.920 --> 0:00:41.960 Myorca and I want him to come to my Orca. 0:00:41.960 --> 0:00:44.680 But that's selfish because it's not going to be so 0:00:44.800 --> 0:00:47.559 hot there in June. But there's not a lot of 0:00:47.600 --> 0:00:50.599 grassy areas, so like every morning I have to take 0:00:50.680 --> 0:00:52.600 him down to the end of the thing and find 0:00:52.600 --> 0:00:54.760 this dog park, and he's going to be in a 0:00:54.800 --> 0:00:56.720 new in that house, he's getting pee. 0:00:56.920 --> 0:00:58.480 I was gonna say, how much dog pee do you 0:00:58.520 --> 0:00:59.280 want in your house? 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:03.160 That's the new house, isn't It's all travertine, so it's okay, 0:01:03.800 --> 0:01:06.640 it's not carpeting. Yeah, but I don't really want to 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:08.480 clean up dog piss because boys. 0:01:08.560 --> 0:01:10.520 Also it's like not just on the flat surface. 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:12.280 And yeah, yeah, I know. 0:01:12.720 --> 0:01:15.480 And he's also a lunatic, so I have to bring 0:01:15.560 --> 0:01:17.160 him on a plane, Like, I don't think I can 0:01:17.200 --> 0:01:19.560 do that yet until you get trained. But you can 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:21.800 hear me talking about you can't you. He's in the 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:25.000 office right now with his big fat lions Maine. 0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:27.280 That's right, you know, he's just perfect. 0:01:27.319 --> 0:01:29.480 Actually, So what's it like to fly with a dog 0:01:29.560 --> 0:01:30.400 that's dog sized? 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:31.920 You have to buy him his own seat or something. 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:33.600 Yeah, I would buy a ticket and we take like 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:36.360 a honeymoon pot over together, which I'm totally down to do, 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:40.319 but obviously, because but I just think it's I just 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:41.640 think it's going to be a disaster. 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:42.279 Yeah. 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:44.720 Plus everyone's going to be all fucked up all the time, 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:48.080 and then people where's dog? And I lose him and then. 0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:49.760 Yeah, maybe he's an LA dog. 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:52.360 Yeah, he's a La boy La and whistler. He loves whistler. Oh, 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:53.680 I'll bet so. 0:01:53.880 --> 0:01:55.720 He saw you posted that. He likes to sleep on 0:01:55.760 --> 0:01:58.400 the patio just because it's like nice and cool. 0:01:58.600 --> 0:01:59.080 That's cool. 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:01.200 He comes in Sometimes it rains outside, her drizzles and 0:02:01.200 --> 0:02:02.520 he comes in and he's all wet in the morning 0:02:02.520 --> 0:02:03.840 because he comes in the morning in the bed to 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:06.080 say hello, and then he gets into the bed until 0:02:06.080 --> 0:02:07.160 I let him go outside. 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:09.200 He probably can't even like feel the wetness because he's 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:09.880 just like, he's so. 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:12.520 Beautiful it does. Everything he does is excusable because of 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:13.120 his good looks. 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:15.880 I understand now you know why men get away with 0:02:16.000 --> 0:02:18.960 murder because he's a beautiful man and he can do 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:21.360 no wrong. I took him for a walk yesterday and 0:02:21.400 --> 0:02:23.919 it was like taking a kangaroo for a walk. I mean, 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:27.480 he is such a lunatic. I have to carry treats 0:02:27.520 --> 0:02:29.560 everywhere I go because that's the only way he comes. 0:02:30.200 --> 0:02:32.280 It's the worst. I have never had a trained dog, 0:02:32.360 --> 0:02:34.720 and now they're going to train him when I'm in Majorca. 0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:37.000 But great, we'll see how that works out. I haven't 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:38.400 had much success in the past. 0:02:38.680 --> 0:02:41.240 Yeah, he's very smart, though, I feel like he'll pick 0:02:41.240 --> 0:02:41.480 it up. 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:42.079 Is he smart? 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:44.639 I don't know yet, just dumb and beautiful. 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:47.400 Okay, So our guest today is an actress. Her directorial 0:02:47.440 --> 0:02:51.040 debut is called Downtown Owl is streaming now, and you 0:02:51.080 --> 0:02:54.040 can catch her in the upcoming The Great lilyan Hap 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:56.480 Please welcome Lily Rabe. 0:02:56.760 --> 0:02:59.640 She was my favorite in Love and Death. It was 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:02.520 so fun. I was on Jimmy Fallon and Robert de Niro. 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:04.919 It was a tenth anniversary, So Robert de Niro, They're like, 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:06.240 would you mind being a second guest? 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:07.960 And I was like, why they go? Because it's a 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:09.919 tenth in year anniversary and it's Robert de Niro, He's 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:10.440 the first guest. 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:13.120 I go, of course, of course, And then I thought, god, 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:15.480 you know, I really am sexually attracted to Robert de Niro. 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:16.959 Like I was like, fuck, I don't even want to 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:17.520 be in the scene. 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:20.640 I've already made advances towards him publicly, like at the Critics' 0:03:20.680 --> 0:03:22.720 Choice Awards, I talked about how I wanted to, I think, 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:24.560 sit on his face or something. I don't think I 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:26.120 said it that way, but that's what I was thinking. 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:28.800 And then and so I don't want him to see me. 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:32.560 You know what I mean. I don't want him to 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:33.600 have to deal with me. 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:35.960 I just want to say I said to them last night, 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:37.440 I go, please let me know when he's left the 0:03:37.440 --> 0:03:39.760 building and then I'll leave. And they're like, he's still here. 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:41.920 He watched your whole segment. Would you like to meet him? 0:03:41.920 --> 0:03:44.760 I go, no, thank you, I'd like to go to 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:48.600 dinner now. Anyway, we're here with Lily Ray. But which 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:51.000 There's been a lot of back and forth about how 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:53.800 we pronounce your last name because it's spelled r abe. 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:55.200 What kind of name is rape? 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:55.880 It's German. 0:03:56.120 --> 0:04:01.040 Oh I'm German too, Yeah, spreckensy Deutsch. No spreckency Deutsche. 0:04:01.160 --> 0:04:03.920 I don't sprekanzy Deutsch either, so don't worry. Okay, So 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:04.600 it's a German name. 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:06.520 I think it might mean raven or something. 0:04:06.640 --> 0:04:11.120 But yeah, anyway, rab maybe okay, but not like the broccoli. 0:04:12.040 --> 0:04:14.680 But then I like, it's the silent e or my 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:17.440 as my kids now are they say it's the magic E. 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:19.360 When I learned it was silenty Now it's magic e. 0:04:19.920 --> 0:04:23.279 But like babe, Rabe, babe, babe babe. 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:25.520 Okay, so I didn't know you came from like a 0:04:25.560 --> 0:04:26.560 Hollywood family. 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:27.960 I can't. 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:30.480 I mean, your mom's a famous actress Jill Klayburg, right, 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:32.480 I had no idea, So. 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:33.599 I take that as a compliment. 0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:36.000 Yeah, I mean, I mean, is that was that something 0:04:36.000 --> 0:04:37.679 that you had to struggle with, like with your career 0:04:37.680 --> 0:04:42.520 and stuff, kind of creating your own identity and individuating. 0:04:41.440 --> 0:04:45.840 I think yes, but more emotionally because I had like 0:04:45.920 --> 0:04:50.600 the most wonderful parents and she was amazing at kind 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:54.560 of separating and she really stopped working for a big chunk. 0:04:54.640 --> 0:04:56.960 So I had like mom and then sometimes people would 0:04:56.960 --> 0:04:58.440 come up to around the street. But it wasn't like 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:01.120 we weren't like in Hollywood. We weren't living in la 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:02.240 We were like in the country. 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:03.839 It's not like your mom was j low is what 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:04.200 you're saying. 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:05.039 It's also not like that. 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:07.320 Yeah, very similar. 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:09.919 We were in a place where it wasn't you know, 0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:12.240 it's different living out here. It's like it was it's 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:15.640 like such a it's like a mining town or it's 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:18.599 it wasn't like that where we were, So there was 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:20.760 a lot of separation. But yeah, I was like I 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:23.320 danced and I was a writer, and I was like 0:05:23.360 --> 0:05:25.400 finding all these other ways my dad's a writer too, 0:05:25.400 --> 0:05:27.840 But I was like, you know, how can I have 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:30.720 my own way towards this thing that ultimately felt kind 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:32.960 of like where I was headed the whole time. 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:35.120 But I want to talk about this show that I 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:37.320 didn't discover you on that show I've seen you in. 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:40.240 I saw you on an American horror story, and then 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:43.360 Love and Death. I saw you on the series Love 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:48.200 and Death, which was such a phenomenal performance that I 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:51.120 watched it twice, not just with you, Elizabeth Olson. I 0:05:51.960 --> 0:05:56.120 was blown away by every part of that and Jesse Plemens, Yes, 0:05:56.240 --> 0:05:57.680 your performance was just so. 0:05:58.400 --> 0:05:59.360 This was a story that. 0:05:59.360 --> 0:06:02.560 Was based on on a true story about a woman 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:07.360 about an affair, and then about the woman whose husband 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:10.240 was cheating finding out about the fair, and then there 0:06:10.279 --> 0:06:13.599 being a fight between the two women and somebody dying 0:06:13.720 --> 0:06:16.240 one of them murdered the other woman and her being 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:18.840 on trial, and it was she was basically let off 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:22.560 right found not guilty for temporary insanity, which I always 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:25.640 have a real problem getting my mind around temporary insanity, 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:29.920 because okay, so if I lose my shit and a 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:31.800 lunch because someone pisses me. 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:34.440 Off and I stabbed someone and they die. 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:36.320 You didn't stab them once. I mean, it was just 0:06:36.520 --> 0:06:41.800 so many, so many hits. It's like an unbelievable so 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:43.960 it doesn't feel very temporary. 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:48.280 It's not temporary at all. I just can't believe that's 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:50.440 a real thing. It's it's like, even if you lose 0:06:50.480 --> 0:06:53.200 your mind for ten minutes, that's not an excuse. 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:55.680 You fucking did it. You still did it. 0:06:55.720 --> 0:06:56.640 I agree with you. 0:06:56.960 --> 0:06:57.920 Yeah, But what I. 0:06:57.920 --> 0:07:00.400 Recognized about you in that show is, Hey, you're sole 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:02.000 because I've seen you in so many different things, and 0:07:02.320 --> 0:07:05.320 you have one of these very interesting faces where you're 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:07.040 always like, I know who that is, but I don't 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:09.720 know who that is, and you're like, I think that's 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:11.640 such an advantage as an actor. 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:12.000 It's not. 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:14.080 I don't think it is an advantage of an actor, 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:16.520 because you can be so mercurial or you can be 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:17.800 not mercurial. 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:20.760 What's a shape shifter like a chameleon? Yeah? 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:21.000 Right? 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:22.840 Do you feel that way about yourself? 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:24.880 I mean it's hard to talk about myself, but I 0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:27.400 can say that in the actors that I love watching 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:31.800 the most, those are the faces that I am sort 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:34.240 of like the most attracted to as a viewer. I 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:38.360 love when a face kind of surprises me all the time. 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:42.520 That's such a high compliment, And like Julianne Moore is 0:07:42.600 --> 0:07:45.400 like that, she's just and you never and you're constantly 0:07:45.400 --> 0:07:46.280 surprised by her. 0:07:46.400 --> 0:07:49.120 Yeah, she's in her character every step of the life. 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:51.720 She's a character actress who plays leading ladies, and to me, 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:54.960 that's like the most wonderful thing to be. But you're 0:07:54.960 --> 0:07:58.800 really approaching like everything through character, and she's a great 0:07:58.840 --> 0:08:00.680 example of that. I think Nicole ca Men too, who's 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:03.000 like definitely one of the most beautiful women on the planet. 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:06.040 But I still feel every time I watch her, Yes, 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:12.040 I'm just watching this absolutely new, surprising creation. 0:08:12.760 --> 0:08:15.240 Yeah, she's like that too, you get It's funny. I 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:17.800 once saw I was watching Meryl Streep in this I 0:08:17.840 --> 0:08:19.680 forget which movie it was, and I saw her do 0:08:19.760 --> 0:08:21.840 this thing that only Meryl Streep does, but she was 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:25.000 in character, and I got so upset because I was like, wait, 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:27.920 you just revealed that you're Meryl Streep. She does this 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:30.680 thing where she like scratches or touches her nose. It 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:33.720 was some gesticulation, and I remember being so upset with her, 0:08:33.960 --> 0:08:35.520 and then I was like, you can't be upset with 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:37.959 Meryl streep stup it like she's a gift to all 0:08:38.000 --> 0:08:39.800 of us, you know, the gift that keeps on giving. 0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:43.440 Talk about somebody who like cannot every time that woman 0:08:43.480 --> 0:08:46.480 does anything. She should be nominated just by being around 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:48.040 for this long and being so revered. 0:08:48.400 --> 0:08:50.920 But I did see that you're directing your very first project. 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:52.520 This is your directorial debut. 0:08:52.720 --> 0:08:58.240 Yes, co directorial debut with my life partner, baby Daddy. 0:08:57.960 --> 0:08:58.640 Baby Daddy. 0:08:58.720 --> 0:08:59.440 Yeah. 0:08:59.600 --> 0:09:01.920 Also we've worked together a lot and then we directed 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:03.760 this movie together. I was in it, he's in it 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:05.199 very briefly. I was in it a lot. 0:09:05.600 --> 0:09:06.760 It's called Downtown Owl. 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:07.040 Yes. 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:08.040 And where is it streaming? 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:12.000 It's on Apple and Amazon. And there's one other one 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:12.720 that I'm forgetting. 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:14.439 Oh, I didn't know that you could do that. You 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:16.719 could put it on multiple It is on multiple We 0:09:16.800 --> 0:09:19.200 have to buy it. Oh okay, Oh I rent I 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:20.680 see I see rent it? Okay, buy it? 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:21.800 Don't rent it by yea, buy it? 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:23.000 Okay, buy it everybody. 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:28.679 But it was adapted. We I optioned this Chuck Closterman 0:09:28.800 --> 0:09:31.560 book many years ago. I had done the audio book 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:33.840 when I was like doing a lot of Feeder and 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:35.920 wanted to make a little extra money. I asked my 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:37.720 agents how I could do that, and they said, well, 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:38.760 audiobooks are you know? 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:41.600 Some people love them, hate them. I like loved doing them. 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:44.000 Mind you doing my audio book? 0:09:44.040 --> 0:09:44.199 Oh? 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:45.720 I can hate recording audio. 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:46.240 Really. 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:48.040 I just don't like being in that booth for that 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:50.199 many hours. But you just said you love it, right, 0:09:50.280 --> 0:09:50.640 I do. 0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:51.480 I love that. 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:56.040 I don't know. I love being alone. I being alone 0:09:56.280 --> 0:09:57.480 feels very I mean, I. 0:09:57.440 --> 0:10:00.000 Know there's someone there, but they're Yeah, but your children aren't, 0:10:00.440 --> 0:10:00.839 no one. 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:02.600 How many children do you have? Three? 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:04.120 I have, well four, I have three? 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:07.440 Uh, you have another one on your I have three. 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:10.439 Out of my body. I've step daughter too. Oh, yes, 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:11.800 I love her. I love being a step mom too. 0:10:11.880 --> 0:10:13.280 Four is a great number for children. 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:13.920 It's great. 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:15.240 I'm from six. I like that. 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:18.400 I like anything above three. Yeah, three, four or five six. 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:20.559 I just think it's it just is so joyful when 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:21.559 you have that many kids. 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:24.640 You know, I camber the parents just outnumber them, my 0:10:24.679 --> 0:10:26.080 parents anything. 0:10:26.160 --> 0:10:26.560 It's great. 0:10:26.720 --> 0:10:30.480 It's just like beautiful chaos all the time, and everything 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:33.880 happens so quickly, and I don't know, I love it. 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:38.360 But anyway, we directed this movie together and my my 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:43.320 latest and I'll say probably last baby was because Hamish 0:10:43.320 --> 0:10:45.800 did say recently, like are my eldest? 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:49.000 Asked for one more? And he was like, literally over 0:10:49.040 --> 0:10:49.720 my dead body. 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:52.959 So how old is your young? 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:56.120 He loves he loves, he loves it too. Two. But 0:10:56.320 --> 0:10:58.880 was three weeks old when we started shooting. Oh three 0:10:58.920 --> 0:11:00.520 weeks wow, so you're bastfeeding. 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:01.920 As breastfeating, I was bleeding. 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:04.040 I mean it was like three weeks like basically he 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:05.960 was still coming out of my box, So you're bleeding. 0:11:06.200 --> 0:11:06.520 I was. 0:11:07.600 --> 0:11:10.839 He was like he was like women, the things that 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:11.959 women are capable of. 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:15.360 Yeah, yeah, because three weeks and he was big. 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:17.160 But it was I had him at home and I 0:11:17.280 --> 0:11:19.760 was like on a zoom meeting like I think eight 0:11:20.040 --> 0:11:24.520 hours later or something doing remote h wow, location scouting. 0:11:24.679 --> 0:11:27.600 Now when you have three babies, yeah, through your Pikachu, 0:11:27.960 --> 0:11:31.000 are you is it not a big deal like once 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:33.360 you've been down the road or is it scarier because you. 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:34.079 Know what's coming? 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:36.719 I mean my vagina like like like a bird, you 0:11:36.760 --> 0:11:37.640 said birthing at home. 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:40.920 I'm not actually talking to your vagina, but I'm talking 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:43.440 about your vagina. Like you said you had the baby 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:45.360 at home, so there's a level of confidence that comes 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:47.800 with that to be able to birth at home or 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:49.280 say declare that you're going to do that. 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:51.720 Yeah. Yeah, And each I had, like my first labor 0:11:51.840 --> 0:11:54.319 was crazed, like forty five hours. The second one was 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:58.360 like twenty Like they just it just kept have having 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:00.760 so it was like forty five, I have twenty two 0:12:00.840 --> 0:12:04.280 and then like eleven eleven or ten or twelve or something, 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:07.360 which felt to someone and they're like, that's so long. 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:10.120 I had my baby in two hours, But to me 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:11.720 that was like pretty fast. 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:14.400 And how were those experiences for you? 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:18.120 I've gosh, you know, it's like I'm not a person 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:23.680 who I had this amazing doctor who really he matched 0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:27.640 my personality so well because he is like half hippie, 0:12:27.880 --> 0:12:30.280 half total neurotic. 0:12:30.559 --> 0:12:31.920 Which I think I am. 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:35.360 M So he would have like I could be in 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:37.560 the bathtub and we're all at home and the kids 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:39.840 are there, and he like showed up to my house 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:43.040 with like a paper bag of like a couple of tools. 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:47.599 But I also knew that he would he would like 0:12:47.640 --> 0:12:49.400 call me always the next day and be like I 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:51.640 left it there. I have a video of Hamish like 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:54.640 giving him directions while I'm screaming in labor in the 0:12:54.679 --> 0:12:57.719 background to my house for like the fortieth time that 0:12:57.960 --> 0:13:00.480 I'll treasure forever. He's like, oh, you've we've passed the 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:03.040 girls know you've gone too far. But I also I 0:13:03.120 --> 0:13:04.880 knew that he was not going to push it, like 0:13:04.960 --> 0:13:07.760 we would go to the hospital if we needed to. 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:11.680 I'm always just amazed. But anyone says like home delivery, 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:14.000 I'm always like, what do you know that? I don't know? 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:17.040 That sounds so scary, Like I want to many. 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:19.920 Not that I'm having a baby obviously, but if I 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:23.160 had one, I would want as many doctors medical professionals 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:24.320 as possible, which. 0:13:24.200 --> 0:13:27.880 I completely understand. I just yeah, I loved. I loved 0:13:28.440 --> 0:13:30.200 being at home, but not like I loved. I mean, 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:32.240 it's it hurts so much. 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:36.280 I'm not like, and then I you know, and you're 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:38.920 having a natural birth. Yeah it hurts. You're having a 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:40.160 natural childbirth at home? 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:40.480 Yeah? 0:13:40.600 --> 0:13:42.200 Oh yeah, I mean the whole thing. 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:44.319 Yeah, no, there's nothing and the kids are they there 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:47.280 when you're sitting there in contractions and screaming your other kids? 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:48.520 Or do you how does that work? 0:13:48.679 --> 0:13:48.839 Yeah? 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:50.959 You know it went on for so long, like we 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:52.680 blacked out all the way. I was like, I can't 0:13:52.800 --> 0:13:54.480 know if the sun is rising or setting at this 0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:56.960 point because this is never going to end. But yeah, 0:13:57.000 --> 0:13:59.280 they would come in, like with the last one they 0:13:59.320 --> 0:14:03.439 were they were there, particularly my eldest was my stepdaughter. 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:03.599 No. 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:05.440 She was like, you guys can give me a call 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:08.400 on the babies out, I'm going to my mom's. But 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:11.240 one of them like slept through so much screaming it 0:14:11.320 --> 0:14:14.280 was unbelievable and sort of like right when the baby 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:15.360 came out like came in. 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:15.920 I don't know. 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:22.240 They must have some sense of like those screams and 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:26.000 noises because they're so close to them that they know 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:31.200 the difference between like she's not actually yeah, dying or 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:33.560 something in a way that maybe even adults don't know. 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:35.560 It feels like cosmic in that way a little bit, 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:38.520 because they like whatever they they've been through it. 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:40.920 And they're nearer to it. Right. Yeah, yeah that rings 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:41.200 a bell. 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:44.640 That's interesting. But that's an interesting way to look. 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:48.160 At it, right, because like if a neighbor hurts, right, 0:14:48.280 --> 0:14:48.800 they would. 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:50.240 Be like, Okay, what's going on over there? 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:52.760 Absolutely, and Hamah should always like very He was always like, well, 0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:54.720 she's gone into the Gorillas in the mist. 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:56.440 Z which. 0:14:58.440 --> 0:15:01.320 Gorillas in the mist is always a good Okay, So 0:15:01.480 --> 0:15:03.960 how was the experience directing Downtown Owl. You were telling 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:05.400 me about the book, Tell me a little bit more 0:15:05.440 --> 0:15:06.520 about it. What's the story? 0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:10.000 I was easier than child, No, no, it was. It 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:10.800 was hard. 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:14.200 But anyway, So it's eighties, middle of nowhere, tiny, tiny 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:16.600 little town. Everyone knows everything, and this woman comes in 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:21.280 to sort of temporarily teach there. We don't really know 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:24.640 if she's running away from something, what she's doing there. 0:15:25.080 --> 0:15:26.640 During the course of it, she has her students, she 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:28.840 meets Ed Harris's character and the who so. 0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:31.600 Thet I love Ed Harris. He's another older man that 0:15:31.680 --> 0:15:32.400 I'm attracted to. 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:35.640 Well, you know, you see is is it Ed Harris? 0:15:35.760 --> 0:15:40.040 The old Ed Harris the beautiful in the movie? 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:41.040 You see his butt? 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:44.040 Oh okay, I've been attracted to Ed Harris for a 0:15:44.120 --> 0:15:47.960 long time, along with Robert, along with Robert de Niro. 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:50.880 Older men are my that is my media. 0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:53.360 But Ed is like, that's the most beautiful face. 0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:56.840 He's got the best dimples and his eyes. Yes, and 0:15:56.960 --> 0:15:59.320 he's so sweet, oh yeah, yeah, And. 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:01.320 He's the greatest factory is a legend is. 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:05.560 He single, no, no, and a long time. That's the greatest. Yeah, 0:16:05.800 --> 0:16:07.160