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Speaker 1: It's Sean and RJ with the head coach of the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys every Friday at this time here on DFW Sports Station.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, coach, how are you. I'm doing well Sean

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Speaker 1: and RJ. How's your morning going. It's okay, it's off

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Speaker 1: to a decent start. Decent what makes a good start

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Speaker 1: on a Friday? You right here, we're talking about Okay,

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Speaker 1: you hit that one out of the park. Coach. Are

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Speaker 1: you a Are you a yeller? Or you like a

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Speaker 1: pattern when things are going rough? A clapper? Are you?

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Speaker 1: Are you a yeller? You do you tend some more

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Speaker 1: and you're all business? Or you know you try to

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Speaker 1: you try to deal with kindness and situations, be honest.

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Speaker 1: I just try to be consistent. Um. You know, I'm

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Speaker 1: a I'm an investment um type. You know. When I

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Speaker 1: look at coaching style, I think it's important to always

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Speaker 1: let people know when they're doing a good job. Didn't

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Speaker 1: you know? Didn't you got to let them know when

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Speaker 1: then there's a correction mode, and then there's a you know,

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Speaker 1: not tolerated mode. So I just think here, you're consistent

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Speaker 1: with your approach. Um that that's why. That's just the

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Speaker 1: way I've always done it and all of a sea.

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Speaker 1: In this profession, you're you're spending a lot of time.

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Speaker 1: You know, there are so many, so many positive things

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Speaker 1: that your players do each and every day. So um,

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Speaker 1: but you know, obviously we tend to highlight the ones

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Speaker 1: that don't go so well. So that's always been my approach.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if what category I fall onto I apologize.

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Speaker 1: How are the players this week? Mike? I was surprised

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Speaker 1: that Amari said, you know, we're not playing with confidence.

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Speaker 1: Stephen came on the station and said the same thing

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Speaker 1: the other day. What does that mean? Does that mean

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Speaker 1: the defensive players aren't playing with confidence? So well, what's

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Speaker 1: your take on that? Well, I, you know, sometimes you know,

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Speaker 1: I think when you you have conversations inside, you know,

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Speaker 1: and frankly it comes from the locker room, really that

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Speaker 1: that particular message, Um, you know, it was after the game,

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Speaker 1: and and I think you have to clearly, did you know,

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Speaker 1: go through the word you know, the words it was.

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Speaker 1: You know, I wouldn't say we're not playing with confidence.

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Speaker 1: I felt there was spots in the game that we

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Speaker 1: didn't play with confidence. You know, we were hesitant, we're indecisive,

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Speaker 1: you know, and and you know, my hope it we've

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Speaker 1: been we've been passed at, you know, with the you

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Speaker 1: know already playing three games. So and that's where and

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Speaker 1: that's really frankly how I addressed the team after the game,

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Speaker 1: because you know, and once again you got to understand,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of emotion in the in the locker

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Speaker 1: room after the game, and there's there's emotion in the

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Speaker 1: in the in the statements. But you know, I think

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Speaker 1: from that it became a message of what's going on

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Speaker 1: on our team. And and frankly, as it's not accurate,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's you know, when you know you have

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Speaker 1: things that don't go the way you want them to go,

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Speaker 1: you got to take the emotion out of it. And

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Speaker 1: you know that's why that's frankly, that's what mondays are for.

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Speaker 1: And you evaluating, you detail it as part of your

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Speaker 1: plan moving before. So, um, we'll play with confidence Sunday

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Speaker 1: run through the whole game in every situation. Mike, Uh,

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Speaker 1: what are the signs to make you believe that this

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Speaker 1: that they've been off to. Well, I think I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, the evaluation process, you know, gives you clear

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Speaker 1: But you know, we don't want we don't want to

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Speaker 1: um because we're in you were in two minutes for

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Speaker 1: playing four quarners, four quarters and playing playing to our defense,

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Speaker 1: good things in situational football. Coach, you brought up the

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Speaker 1: about the penalties. Obviously these guys aren't trying to turn

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Speaker 1: How do you fix this? Oh? Yeah, definitely, you know,

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Speaker 1: take care of the football's a skill. Uh, there's you know,

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Speaker 1: it's a it's a fine motor skill in my view.

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Speaker 1: It's it's frankly, we start every practice with special teams,

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Speaker 1: refer to as team fundamentals. It's all about the football,

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Speaker 1: you know, It's there's ball security drills, and we do

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Speaker 1: you know there's tackling involved in that. Said, those team

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Speaker 1: fundamentals are drills that I've always started to practice with

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Speaker 1: us in emphasis. And we're clearly understand where our turnover

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Speaker 1: ratio is. It's it's unacceptable and and everybody understands that.

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Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy every Friday with Sean and RJ right here

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Speaker 1: on the fan after the game. Coach, Uh, you remain

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Speaker 1: adamant We're not going to just simplify and become a

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Speaker 1: remain multiple no matter what when you're struggling. Well, I

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Speaker 1: I mean we we are. We are operating a very

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Speaker 1: to execute better. You didn't take my advice last week,

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Speaker 1: a goal line defense coach. I think that was the problem.

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Speaker 1: Did you forget that, dude? I didn't write it, dine.

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Speaker 1: What was it that was goal line? You gave me

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Speaker 1: That's it's a bad matchup. Can we give a suggestion

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Speaker 1: Let me sit down. You better sit down for the

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Speaker 1: no punts the entire game. You go for it in

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Speaker 1: every fourth down. Well, I like the first part, no punts.

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Speaker 1: at the game. I'll bring it up in the game management,

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Speaker 1: ask for carts on this here. Well five three the

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Speaker 1: we all clearly understand where we are. You know, we

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Speaker 1: And you know, if you get into that that kind

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Speaker 1: yesterday we had a very spirited practice, chippy practice, so um,

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Speaker 1: that's that's part of the trade going upwards. So we'll

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Speaker 1: just we'll take our preparation into this Giant's game, and

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Speaker 1: you know, we clearly plan on one in the game, Mike,

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Speaker 1: You know, there's still things that we're going through through

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Speaker 1: how they handle adversity, you know, just something as simple

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Speaker 1: And because we have been in some out of balance games,

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Speaker 1: hasn't happened. So yeah, maybe you're always evaluating those things

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Speaker 1: the end. Coach Xavier Woods this week said nobody goes

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Speaker 1: asleep at least half the meetings I'm in. Yeah, but like,

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Speaker 1: openly talking about basically not trying on every play. Well,

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Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy here, I'm the fan coach. When when things uh,

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