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Speaker 1: Hey, great to be with you. I hate doing podcasts,
Speaker 1: but I love doing this one.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
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Speaker 3: You know, man, I'm a Floridian now, as the audience knows,
Speaker 3: I'm one of those New Floridians. I do miss New
Speaker 3: York sometimes in some ways. But I see what's going
Speaker 3: on the with the they call them the migrants. I
Speaker 3: keep trying to tell everybody asylum seekers is really just
Speaker 3: a way the refugees. That's what an asylum seeker is,
Speaker 3: effectively the same thing as a refugee. It's just a
Speaker 3: question of where the application for that status occurs, which
Speaker 3: means they're they're building refugee camps on Randall's Island. It's
Speaker 3: going to cost the city twelve billion dollars.
Speaker 2: What is going on up.
Speaker 1: There, Well, you know, asylum seeker. It's like saying a
Speaker 1: shoplifter is a product seeker. It's somebody's snuck into the
Speaker 1: country illegally. They don't. I mean, if they want to
Speaker 1: come here, they don't do it illegally. You should do
Speaker 1: it legally. It is an absolute mess. Eric Adams are mayor,
Speaker 1: when he first got elected, got on all these national shows,
Speaker 1: he was on the Sunday shows, he was all over
Speaker 1: the place, and he kept yelling, were a sanctuary city.
Speaker 1: I don't know why. He kept bragging about it. Where
Speaker 1: a sanctuary city. So people like Governor Abbot of Texas said,
Speaker 1: let me take you up on your offer. You go,
Speaker 1: here's one hundred thousand migrants. It's a terrible situation. But
Speaker 1: if you had a Donald Trump here, he'd figure out
Speaker 1: what to do about it. Eric Adams has no clue
Speaker 1: what to do about it. He's sticking them in our
Speaker 1: finest hotels, sticking him in the busy residential neighborhoods, sticking
Speaker 1: him on an island now and his twelve million dollars
Speaker 1: a day or what nobody is buying this figure. It's
Speaker 1: way beyond what anybody thinks it would really cost, you know,
Speaker 1: his thousand dollars a data. I mean, these are people
Speaker 1: that are living on ten dollars a day before. He's
Speaker 1: wasting all of our money. It's first of all, you
Speaker 1: could just put these people on buses, send them right
Speaker 1: back to Texas, or if it were me, send him
Speaker 1: to Washington, d c. He's talking about four or five
Speaker 1: billion over a couple of years. How about three million.
Speaker 1: Just bust them all to Washington, drop them off in
Speaker 1: front of the White House. It's Joe Biden's illegals. Let
Speaker 1: him figure it out.
Speaker 3: What is the crazy New York City Council. I know
Speaker 3: that's not technically the official term for them, but the
Speaker 3: crazy New York City Council. Are they recognizing that some
Speaker 3: of their constituents really don't want this and they don't
Speaker 3: like when they start here. I mean, even for a
Speaker 3: city of the size of New York, twelve billion dollars
Speaker 3: a lot of money, right, I mean for the federal
Speaker 3: government that's a joke. But for a city government. That's
Speaker 3: a lot of money. What the I think the budget
Speaker 3: for the whole state of Florida, for example, is like
Speaker 3: one hundred billion, and I know New York's is a
Speaker 3: lot more than that, but it shouldn't be.
Speaker 2: That's all other conversation. So what does the city council
Speaker 2: think about this?
Speaker 1: Well, they're completely crazy. The city council is made up
Speaker 1: of the most woke left wing lunatic idiots. They believe
Speaker 1: all shopliftings should be illegal, the police shouldn't be bothering
Speaker 1: the criminals. They don't think cars should be driving in
Speaker 1: the street. That's no place for a car. Should be
Speaker 1: all bikes and scooters. And they've just completely messed up
Speaker 1: the city. And when it comes to illegals, these are
Speaker 1: like heroes to them. They should we should be giving
Speaker 1: them parades every day instead of just sending them back
Speaker 1: or find a place for them. Is these are federal illegals,
Speaker 1: they should be put on federal land. We got a
Speaker 1: lot of federal land that there's places on along. I'm
Speaker 1: just federal government government, federal government refusing to allow these
Speaker 1: migrants to even stay there.
Speaker 3: It's amazing, isn't it, Because it's an Immigration is a
Speaker 3: inherently and it is a federal issue to the degree
Speaker 3: that even Democrat administrations like the Obama administration and now
Speaker 3: the Biden administration, will prevent states. You know, you saw
Speaker 3: this in Texas, right, They're trying to put this water barrier,
Speaker 3: and the federal government says, how dare you don't don't
Speaker 3: stop people from coming here in violation of federal law.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's crazy, but that is what they do.
Speaker 3: But when it comes to dealing with the migrants, the
Speaker 3: burden is now falling on the states, right, so they
Speaker 3: so sometimes the federal government, again under a Democrat administration, says, hey,
Speaker 3: you don't do anything to help us at the border.
Speaker 3: But then when it comes to housing, feeding, clothing, all
Speaker 3: that kind of stuff, it's states. You got to figure
Speaker 3: this one out for yourself, Like, how does that make sense?
Speaker 1: Well, hey, we also have the world's worst senator, the
Speaker 1: most useless guy in history, Chuck Schumer. Everybody hates him,
Speaker 1: nobody likes him, only they vote for him. They give
Speaker 1: you this argument that he's well, he's been there forty
Speaker 1: years and nobody has more clout in Washington. This is
Speaker 1: exactly where you would need this cloud. We're trying to
Speaker 1: get help from the federal government. This is who you
Speaker 1: do it through. Chuck Schumer, our senator. He has got
Speaker 1: absolutely no cloud in Washington. He can't get change of
Speaker 1: a quarter from the White House. Nobody listens to him.
Speaker 1: And not only does he do nothing, he actually hides.
Speaker 1: You know, when we had riots all over New York,
Speaker 1: nobody saw him for six months. He was hiding. Now
Speaker 1: that we've got this migrant crisis, nobody sees him. He
Speaker 1: shows up once a week to do this fake press
Speaker 1: conference on the airline seats so big enough. But when
Speaker 1: he had a real problem with the crime or this
Speaker 1: migrant crisis, he's not there to help. And hey, if
Speaker 1: Donald Trump was the mayor, he'd figured this out in
Speaker 1: about two days. You know, it's Abbot busting them all
Speaker 1: here from Texas. I bet you he would call Abbot
Speaker 1: and say, what does it cost you for these busses?
Speaker 1: What are spending five to ten million? Right?
Speaker 3: And Abbot would feel like he would have somebody on
Speaker 3: the other side of this who actually wants to try
Speaker 3: to fix thing or work with it. Right, I mean,
Speaker 3: right now. He knows Democrats demand this. They've demanded that
Speaker 3: the border be as open as possible, whether it's Biden
Speaker 3: or these sanctuary city mayors. Speaking of mayors, I did
Speaker 3: want to ask you this, Eric Adams, relative to expectations
Speaker 3: when he came into office, how would you assess you know,
Speaker 3: again relative like he's a Democrat, we know that, but
Speaker 3: relative to expectations, and do you think he could win
Speaker 3: re election? Is he even going to run for reelection?
Speaker 3: What do you think?
Speaker 1: How would I assess him? Total disaster? I never thought
Speaker 1: people would misbuild the Blasio that previous mayor, but they did.
Speaker 1: Can he run for reelection? The real problem behind everything
Speaker 1: is totally corrupt media. They've gone totally one hundred percent corrupt.
Speaker 1: Democrats know they can get away with anything. If they
Speaker 1: were all over this border crisis, Biden would have to
Speaker 1: do something. If they were all over Eric Adams, he
Speaker 1: would have to do more. In this crazy world. Who
Speaker 1: knows who could get elected because the media covers up
Speaker 1: anything Democrats do. They hammer away at any Republican that
Speaker 1: comes along. Anything could happen.
Speaker 3: Well, what do you think of the or what's the
Speaker 3: latest on the crime situation? You know, there was a
Speaker 3: lot of talk about it when Adams came into office.
Speaker 3: You know, New York was going through an upswing period
Speaker 3: of crime.
Speaker 2: What are the numbers?
Speaker 3: Tell us here we are now what you know a
Speaker 3: year and a half into his term.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, they keep telling you the numbers are down,
Speaker 1: numbers are down. Adams did one brilliant thing. He figured
Speaker 1: out how to get the number of arrests down. They
Speaker 1: stopped arresting people in a lot of categories. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: it took like twenty categories. No more arresting. So of
Speaker 1: course you see a drop and arrest because they're not
Speaker 1: arresting anybody. But the crimes are still going on, you know,
Speaker 1: like shoplifting is a good example. It's out of control,
Speaker 1: like two billion dollars worth of shoplifting. They just don't
Speaker 1: arrest anybody for it. So it brings the total numbers down.
Speaker 1: It also costs the stories about twenty five percent, so
Speaker 1: they have to increase the price of all their products
Speaker 1: twenty five percent to cover the shoplifting. It's a tax.
Speaker 1: It's an inflation on all New Yorkers.
Speaker 3: And I mean, I sit here and I wonder what
Speaker 3: does it take. Are there still people going back to
Speaker 3: the crazy City Council? But let's make it more about
Speaker 3: your standard, not that there's really such a thing, but
Speaker 3: you know, your your average run of the mill Democrat
Speaker 3: voter in New York.
Speaker 2: They've got to realize.
Speaker 3: That these policies that have led to all this when
Speaker 3: it comes to crime and all the shoplifting, and that
Speaker 3: it's idiotic, right or do they Is there still some
Speaker 3: argument that's being made by people, you know, day to
Speaker 3: day folks that this isn't a disaster, like put that
Speaker 3: into context for me.
Speaker 1: Well, they believe in their crazy heads that it's it's
Speaker 1: your fault, it's my fault, that these poor people were
Speaker 1: deprived by society of everything and they have no choice
Speaker 1: but to steal, which is absolutely ridiculous. They believe poverty
Speaker 1: causes crime. What they don't realize is crime causes poverty.
Speaker 1: It makes stores leave, businesses leave, people leave, a neighborhood
Speaker 1: starts decaying, eventually becomes just nothing but poverty, all because
Speaker 1: of the crime. And Rudy Giuliani proved that you clean
Speaker 1: up the crime. You know, Brooklyn was doing not well.
Speaker 1: It was a very bad area until Rudy Giuliani made
Speaker 1: it safe. Then suddenly it's booming. Apartments went from nothing
Speaker 1: to millions of dollars. Poverty creates crime. Crime is the
Speaker 1: other way around.
Speaker 3: Crime crime creates poverty. Yes, crime is destructive of economic
Speaker 3: rime growth.
Speaker 1: So these liberals believe that they also believe that there's
Speaker 1: so much smarter than us that they'll have to just
Speaker 1: show us how to do everything.
Speaker 3: It's I think at some point it almost becomes a
Speaker 3: requirement to be a democrat and good standing. You have
Speaker 3: to accept the decay the on the streets around you,
Speaker 3: and the disorder and the crime. It's like the price
Speaker 3: of being a member in good standing. You're like, well,
Speaker 3: I guess this is what it has to be.
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Speaker 3: The brag indictment of Trump is the it's the legally
Speaker 3: the craziest, but it's also happening in New York where
Speaker 3: you have a super anti Trump jury pool and likely
Speaker 3: judge involved. How do you see this playing out?
Speaker 1: Mark Well? But again, this is what I'm talking about,
Speaker 1: totally corrupt media. That's the only reason this could happen.
Speaker 1: It's astonishing that Alvin Bray could leave the building every
Speaker 1: day from work and there aren't a thousand reporters screaming
Speaker 1: at him. Why are you arresting anybody? Why are you
Speaker 1: not putting anybody in jail? And this Trump stuff. You know,
Speaker 1: if you mislabel your business records, you falsify your business
Speaker 1: records to another company in order to make money from
Speaker 1: them or to scam somebody else. I understand that you
Speaker 1: falsified your business records within your own filing cabinet. If
Speaker 1: you're paying off a stripper, I could see calling it
Speaker 1: something expense. It's within your own filing system, never leaving
Speaker 1: your office. Why aren't reporters asking Alvin Bragg every day
Speaker 1: to explain how this is suddenly a crime? You can
Speaker 1: label anything anything you want in your own files. It's
Speaker 1: it's ridiculous. The Alvin Bragg, the judge, everybody should be
Speaker 1: after him. You remember he prosecuted that Trump executive for
Speaker 1: using a company car. Did they send him a prison?
Speaker 1: Didn't they send him a prison? Right? Or was it?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: No one reporter ever pointed out or said him, hey,
Speaker 1: you came to the court in a company car. You
Speaker 1: use a company car every day? Well, nobody ever. The
Speaker 1: press is so corrupt they never asked anybody any of
Speaker 1: this stuff. If they were all over them pressuring them,
Speaker 1: Alvin Bragg wouldn't be able to get away with this stuff.
Speaker 3: What is what's his support, Like in the city, do
Speaker 3: people realize that Brag not aside from the the Trump
Speaker 3: stuff I was talking about the mayor before they realize
Speaker 3: Bragg is a disaster on crime or is that also not?
Speaker 2: Really? You know, haven't reached the consensus on.
Speaker 1: That yet, don't They don't cover him? Check their there's
Speaker 1: been no coverage of Alvin Bragg, nothing for months and
Speaker 1: months and months and months on end. You know what
Speaker 1: if a prosecutor goes after a Democrat, remember Ken Starr
Speaker 1: and Bill Clinton, they do nothing but expose's on Ken's Starr.
Speaker 1: They do stories on here.
Speaker 2: Lawn, right, they set up like Tess practically.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you see any story about Jack Smith, anything about
Speaker 1: his background? Do we know anything about him? No stories, nothing,
Speaker 1: not a word. His wife is a big Democratic contributor,
Speaker 1: No stories, nothing about it.
Speaker 3: It's the fix is in. And that's why how do
Speaker 3: you handle this?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 3: Because there's all this I try to look at it
Speaker 3: this way. There's all this legal analysis, and I know
Speaker 3: these these very smart minds, and they're saying things like, well,
Speaker 3: this is going to have to be there's going to
Speaker 3: be motions and they might move the different jurists. They
Speaker 3: might move jurisdiction, they might, there'll be appeals and they'll
Speaker 3: be Supreme Court and all this stuff. And I think
Speaker 3: that's all valid, and it's true. In a normal in
Speaker 3: a normal circumstance, you could maybe rely on those things more.
Speaker 3: How rigged do you think the system is at this point?
Speaker 3: The legal system is against you know, what what do
Speaker 3: you make of that?
Speaker 1: Well, it's totally really. I mean, when you suddenly these
Speaker 1: are the most serious crimes threat to America, you must prosecute.
Speaker 1: Then you find out there were three years ago. If
Speaker 1: they've waited three years to even bother with this. You know,
Speaker 1: if you really looked at Donald Trump, I might believe somewhere,
Speaker 1: out of all the things he did, maybe something might
Speaker 1: have been a little bit of a crime. Nobody believes
Speaker 1: that he committed seven hundred and eighty two thousand crimes
Speaker 1: and that he's should be facing forty two million years
Speaker 1: in prison. It's just over the top.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: The one of the courts ordered him, don't make a
Speaker 1: circus out of this. They already have.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's like shouting out mark in the middle of
Speaker 3: the circus, don't make this a circus.
Speaker 2: That's okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I don't know of any organized crime anybody
Speaker 1: ever who got this many charges or this many cases going.
Speaker 3: That's crazy to me, you know, I, how do you
Speaker 3: think we you know, I want to ask you about
Speaker 3: what you think the voting public in the general, how
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Speaker 3: just if you would for me, Why is Trump going
Speaker 3: to win this time? Forget whether or not people think
Speaker 3: that he got you know, screwed out a last time.
Speaker 3: Why is he going to win this time? Because it
Speaker 3: a lot rides on it.
Speaker 1: Well, uh, you know, had there been no pandemic, Trump
Speaker 1: would have had a booming, incredible economy, would have been
Speaker 1: a different story. But the country was in lockdown. The
Speaker 1: economy was a disaster. So that's one thing. Now it's
Speaker 1: a whole different matter. The economy's a disaster for Joe Biden.
Speaker 1: And as we've always known, when the economy is a disaster,
Speaker 1: you don't get reelected. It's a horrible situation, the economy,
Speaker 1: the crime, all of this, this circus Stalinist show trials
Speaker 1: going on all over You got to believe in America,
Speaker 1: and you got to believe in Americans that they'll just
Speaker 1: do the right thing. Just I don't know what the
Speaker 1: polls are measuring exactly, but you know that silent majority
Speaker 1: is out there that will just rise up and put
Speaker 1: an end to this crazy, corrupt nightmare.
Speaker 2: I certainly hope.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 3: I think one thing that I try to remind everybody of,
Speaker 3: including you know.
Speaker 2: I just like you Mark.
Speaker 3: I have people who are conservatives and even independence listening
Speaker 3: who are not Trump voters, or maybe they've been Trump
Speaker 3: voters and now they want to vote for somebody else.
Speaker 3: And what I always try to to bring into the
Speaker 3: conversation is, if they're going to indict somebody like Trump
Speaker 3: who's leading in the polls to be the Republican nominee
Speaker 3: four times, does anyone really doubt that they'll do this
Speaker 3: to the next Republican that they think is a real
Speaker 3: challenge to their way of doing.
Speaker 2: Business, into the system.
Speaker 3: I mean, I just feel like the precedent is dangerous
Speaker 3: in and of itself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. And some people will say, well, why
Speaker 1: do we have to have Trump? Why can we have
Speaker 1: somebody nicer, somebody a little more civil somebody. I think
Speaker 1: over the next few months, they're going to start to
Speaker 1: see that these people are vicious thugs, these are so
Speaker 1: vie it awful terrorists using the legal system way, and
Speaker 1: then we start to realize this is not a job
Speaker 1: for Mike Pence. You're going to need a street brawler
Speaker 1: to fight these people stuff the system, to get rid
Speaker 1: of these swamp creatures. It's it's going to take a
Speaker 1: guy like Trump. No one else is up to the task.
Speaker 2: Where do you think or how do.
Speaker 3: You think the Biden reality plays out here? Is Joe
Speaker 3: Biden in your mind likely to still be the nominee?
Speaker 3: Or do you do you subscribe to the They're going
Speaker 3: to push him out and put somebody else in their plan.
Speaker 1: I think at some point they got to push him out.
Speaker 1: I mean, we've seen a decline over the last few years.
Speaker 1: I've seen a decline over the last three or four months.
Speaker 1: So if they're gonna do it, they're gonna have to
Speaker 1: do it early next year. January February, that's where they'll
Speaker 1: have to do it. And that's six months away. I
Speaker 1: could see him just really declining. And also if this
Speaker 1: hunter Biden stuff really you know, and surrounds him and
Speaker 1: really destroys his future, they'll they'll just have him step down.
Speaker 1: They'll do a Lindon Johnson'll just announce I don't seek reelection.
Speaker 1: There'll be an open primary, and they'll screw around with
Speaker 1: that and the they like out of that, and that'll
Speaker 1: be it.
Speaker 3: You think that it would be Gavin Newsom or somebody
Speaker 3: else who would step in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I always find whatever vulture is circling early, that's
Speaker 1: never the guy that gets it. Uh, could be, but
Speaker 1: they'll pick somebody. Remember last time they had a lot
Speaker 1: of good but not good, but a lot of strong
Speaker 1: candidates and South Carolina they told everybody to drop out.
Speaker 1: They decided on Joe Biden, Budah, Jedge Warren. Everybody was
Speaker 1: told to drop out and they did. So they'll pick somebody.
Speaker 1: It could be one of the cabinet, could be some governor.
Speaker 1: You never know. I don't know if Newsom will play
Speaker 1: long enough with them. I don't know if he's enough
Speaker 1: of a up it for them.
Speaker 3: You optimistic for twenty twenty four, Mark, We're gonna We're
Speaker 3: gonna are the good guys gonna win?
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely. You've got total disaster in the economy, The
Speaker 1: world's all screwed up, everything's a mess, crime all over
Speaker 1: the streets. If you can't beat that, I don't know
Speaker 1: what you could ever beat.
Speaker 2: Check out Mark Sima. Mark.
Speaker 3: They can listen to a podcast of your radio show
Speaker 3: right so anyone listening can check out Mark Simon's show Uh,
Speaker 3: just write Mark Simone Show. Wherever they listen to podcasts, correct, Yeah,
Speaker 3: go sco on.
Speaker 1: The iHeart App or anywhere you get podcasts, Go listen.
Speaker 3: To Mark Simon Show. I listened to it in the morning.
Speaker 3: Sometimes reminds me of my home hometown.
Speaker 2: New York.
Speaker 3: Mark does a great job. Yeah, I do love it there.
Speaker 3: I don't know, I gotta find a way to I
Speaker 3: got to just figure out the tax situation a little bit. Anyway, Mark,
Speaker 3: thank you so much.
Speaker 2: Man. It's great to talk to you.
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me