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Speaker 2: Mets fans? Welcome back to another episode of the Mets

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Speaker 2: Stuff Podcast. We got a series win. As bad as

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Speaker 2: it felt, feels a little bit better. Granted, Sunday's game frustrating,

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Speaker 2: not great, but the first two games of the series

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Speaker 2: down in Atlanta went shockingly well for the Mets. They

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Speaker 2: took care of business, beat down the horrible, horrible, horrible

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Speaker 2: Atlanta Braves. You know, the Braves only have two more

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Speaker 2: wins than the Pittsburgh Pirates right now.

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Speaker 3: Wow?

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Speaker 2: And that alway, with winning today, the.

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Speaker 3: Pirates are one hundred and twenty win team.

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Speaker 2: I don't so that is true against five hundred teams

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Speaker 2: since July. They've been unbelievable. But the Mets are playing

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Speaker 2: a little bit better. Mark Fiento swinging the batrep baties,

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Speaker 2: good baseball player. Francisco Indoors says hot. We're gonna talk

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Speaker 2: about everything as well as Sunday's game in this episode.

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Speaker 2: First off, how we feeling nice weekend? Beautiful weather out

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Speaker 2: in the city this weekend? Perfect weather in the city,

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Speaker 2: literally that perfect weather. You go outside like t shirt, jeans,

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Speaker 2: You're like, oh, I don't feel anything, don't feel a thing.

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Speaker 2: But this was this was like a tantalizing series by

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Speaker 2: the Mets because you felt so good, you had a

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Speaker 2: chance for a sweep, sweep, you really establish momentum. We

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Speaker 2: just like barely can't twist it in, Like I don't

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Speaker 2: want to be like kind of like beggars can't be

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Speaker 2: choosers with well, how this team has played mostly so

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to like to fame seeries win over

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Speaker 2: an Atlanta team that is horrible and I don't like

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Speaker 2: going to that ballpark no matter what. And they basically

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Speaker 2: threw three minor league pitchers against us. But still just

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Speaker 2: like having that win slip away from me on Sunday

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Speaker 2: does lead like a teeny tiny bit of a bad

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Speaker 2: taste in my mouth from the series. Yeah. No, I've

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Speaker 2: seen a lot of people on Twitter blaming Mendoza a

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Speaker 2: lot for this one. I think we probably get a

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Speaker 2: little bit too happy trying to blame and point figures

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Speaker 2: at it. Like sometimes a team like doesn't win a

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Speaker 2: You gave up four runs in the game. They just

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Speaker 2: didn't score enough, a little bit of like the typical

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Speaker 2: cat Braves just played better today. I don't think it's

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Speaker 2: really as much on Mendoz as people are really trying

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Speaker 4: No but for the Devil's advocate with that, and like

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Speaker 4: this has been also a situation where I don't know

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Speaker 4: that Sean Murphy single was no, that was the one

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Speaker 4: one literally one step slow on that. You don't know

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Speaker 4: But Devils go back to the sixth inning. It's just

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Speaker 4: Had gotten up in the bullpen, and I don't think

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Speaker 4: I just don't think you're bringing Brooks Railey into face

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Speaker 4: And again he to that point in the game, David

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Speaker 4: Peterson was amazing. This was one of the highest swinging

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Speaker 4: get staff here right now. How many times actually done next?

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Speaker 4: I don't think as many times. But the Mets bats

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Speaker 3: And it just didn't happen. That's kind of that's that's

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Speaker 4: And again, there were chances, like there's guys on base

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Speaker 3: Baby put that ball to the running track.

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Speaker 4: That was about the eighth inning, and then Nemo did

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Speaker 2: No, Sometimes that happens. Yeah, I think that you know,

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Speaker 2: to overblow this loss with how well things went earlier

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Speaker 2: Cedric Mullins in centerfield, Tyrone Taylor and left when we're

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Speaker 2: centerfield is more important defensively, Tyrone is a better defensive

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Speaker 2: center fielder than Cedric Malins. Is not because Moullins is bad.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, especially when the day before there was it wasn't

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Speaker 4: know that Cedric Mallins is a good centerfield defender, and

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Speaker 4: we've cited his OAA a lot of times, being like

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Speaker 4: he's a plus defender there, he's a plus devender there,

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Speaker 4: but OA doesn't segment for centerfield is a segment for

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Speaker 4: So I do think that is something that we didn't say.

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Speaker 4: And also I don't know if that ball was like

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Speaker 3: You talked about this before he started recording. Who could

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Speaker 3: who's the six ending guy right now?

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Speaker 2: And if you're gonna just go to another lefty, like

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Speaker 2: Clint Kershaw is the best lefty you have on this

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Speaker 2: to go Railey, unless unless Peterson really was like just

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Speaker 4: No, And again like this was to this was one

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Speaker 3: I think it's another thing we lack right now.

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Speaker 4: I don't think we give Dave Pisi enough credit for

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Speaker 4: how consistent and how amazing he's been just all season

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Speaker 4: his entire career he's gotten twenty swings and misses in

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Speaker 3: There was no home run.

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Speaker 4: There wasn't like a line drive in the gap. It

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Speaker 4: was literally two walks and two bloops. Sometimes two walks

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Speaker 4: and two bloops is just all you need. But like

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Speaker 4: let that to let two walks and two bloops happen

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Speaker 2: Okay, So then let's let's bring it back now to

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Speaker 2: the positive stuff, because that was about five minutes of

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Speaker 2: one too much. It sucked, but overall, this was a

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Speaker 2: course we know swing speed does determine how hard you

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Speaker 4: Seen and much more simply, like you said before, we

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Speaker 4: that crushes lefties. Yes, Like you're going to see tough

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Speaker 2: Right now, you're looking on a lineup when fully healthy. Right,

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Speaker 3: Definitely I was pissed about that.

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Speaker 2: deal at all, but it's just there's there's still these

436
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Speaker 2: and again where might we're just magnifying all these things.

437
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Speaker 6: You lose.

438
00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:21,160
Speaker 3: Once you lose, you lose.

439
00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,040
Speaker 4: You lose this game by one run, Like that's kind

440
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Speaker 4: of the annoying part of about it.

441
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Speaker 3: But just we talk about Nolan McLain.

442
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Speaker 2: Now one more real quick, Okay, Clay Holmes, why you

443
00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,120
Speaker 2: want to talk about everything before we could talk about Pele.

444
00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,800
Speaker 2: Nolan McClain's coming. He's coming. He gotta you gotta tease

445
00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:37,720
Speaker 2: the people. This is just a we're gonna we're gonna

446
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Speaker 2: talk about But Clay Holmes look great. Clay Holmes was

447
00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,160
Speaker 2: awesome great. I mean this is the preemit to Clay

448
00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:42,680
Speaker 2: Holmes podcast.

449
00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:46,440
Speaker 4: And Clay Holmes has been like the most underappreciated player

450
00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:47,520
Speaker 4: in this Mets team all season.

451
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Speaker 3: He's kind of Jeffing Neil the rotation right now.

452
00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,800
Speaker 2: Three six R eleven wins on the season Wins podcast.

453
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Speaker 2: For this scenario also.

454
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Speaker 4: Got to the seventh inning, like he literally caught the

455
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Speaker 4: Nolan McLain contagion. Where he's like, oh, I guess I

456
00:16:58,160 --> 00:16:59,440
Speaker 4: can do this too, But like we're looking at one

457
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Speaker 4: hundred and forty with three six ERA and you're like, yes,

458
00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,320
Speaker 4: like that is awesome, Like that has been so viable

459
00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,120
Speaker 4: what this team's done. He's taking the ball every five

460
00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:08,800
Speaker 4: or six days and ever he's been there, like there's

461
00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,520
Speaker 4: been no hiccups, no nothing, it's just he's been like

462
00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,840
Speaker 4: he's been like the Walmart version of David Peterson in.

463
00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:15,960
Speaker 3: A way, I've gotten perfect.

464
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Speaker 2: I've got your segue to Noel McLean Okay, I'm leaning

465
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Speaker 2: you in. He got like ten seconds. It is funny

466
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Speaker 2: how Noel McClain broke the record for the going into

467
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Speaker 2: the sixth edning completing six innings from David Peterson. Clay

468
00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:28,879
Speaker 2: Holmes the next day does it. The guy who then

469
00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,720
Speaker 2: breaks the shriek of six plus innings is David Peterson.

470
00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,520
Speaker 2: And also it was like really really really close to

471
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Speaker 2: just getting through that. But Holmes also like, I like

472
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Speaker 2: when this version of Holmes that we've seen over the

473
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Speaker 2: last few weeks, especially where he's like I'm just gonna

474
00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,320
Speaker 2: throw much sinkers, He's like, I don't care, just.

475
00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:43,560
Speaker 3: Hit the ball to the ground. Like I'm not even

476
00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:44,040
Speaker 3: I'm not even.

477
00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:45,800
Speaker 4: Here the guest wings and misses anymore. It's just please

478
00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:47,440
Speaker 4: as many ground ball as you can. I have this

479
00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,400
Speaker 4: grundball number right here. He's got to find real quick

480
00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:50,600
Speaker 4: for how many holmes.

481
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Speaker 2: Got start pounding.

482
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Speaker 4: It was an that was only about half. It was

483
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Speaker 4: only nine, nine out of eighteen. Oh that's still was

484
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Speaker 4: a lot though, Oh still a ton. But still it's

485
00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,719
Speaker 4: funny for a guy like that, Like it's just he

486
00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:01,680
Speaker 4: was there was only like two or three balls that

487
00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:03,080
Speaker 4: were put in play where I was like, oh, something

488
00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,320
Speaker 4: could actually happen on these. It was just like he

489
00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,560
Speaker 4: was so on top of his game, keeping it low

490
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Speaker 4: below the belt and just like let this team hung

491
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Speaker 4: around again, like the way the final score wound up,

492
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Speaker 4: he would think it was a blow This was not

493
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Speaker 4: a blowout.

494
00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:13,600
Speaker 2: We did not.

495
00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:15,720
Speaker 4: This was one run game throughout, Like we had a lead.

496
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Speaker 4: They kind of came back. Starling Wright said a great thrown,

497
00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:21,600
Speaker 4: Tyrone tailed, a great catch and baty another fantastic game

498
00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,720
Speaker 4: at the third good ball player. I have a few

499
00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:25,840
Speaker 4: libations on Saturday, and I let out a tweet where

500
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Speaker 4: I made a bowl claim that Brett Baby will have

501
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Speaker 4: a five, a five win season in his career, and

502
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Speaker 4: I stand by that right now.

503
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Speaker 2: It's gonna be really hard.

504
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Speaker 3: He's gonna he's gonna get three this year. He's gonna

505
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Speaker 3: play like a hundred games.

506
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Speaker 2: I know it's hard. It's just hard.

507
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Speaker 4: No, I'm saying, yeah, man, I think he could do

508
00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:41,000
Speaker 4: that if he If he would have actually hit that

509
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Speaker 4: home run in the seventh inning or the eighth inning

510
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Speaker 4: on Sunday, I would have been I would have been

511
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Speaker 4: chiseling the plaque for the first down.

512
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Speaker 2: I turn around, Brett baby needed.

513
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Speaker 4: We're working on an eighty games eighty three games now

514
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Speaker 4: from Brett Baty since he called back up, so not

515
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Speaker 4: even including the Wheeler home run, like the good week

516
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Speaker 4: he had before he got sent down.

517
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Speaker 2: McNeil came back. It's a thirty home or ten steel

518
00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,359
Speaker 2: pace with eight hundred ops and playing good defense at

519
00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,600
Speaker 2: third end second base. It's like, that is such a

520
00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:06,200
Speaker 2: good baseball player Mike Mustakas.

521
00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,000
Speaker 3: It's literally it's better than Mustaka's. Like it's so annoying.

522
00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,119
Speaker 4: I mean, that's it's so amazing, like that we've like

523
00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,400
Speaker 4: stuck through bred Bay and now he's become a baseball

524
00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:17,200
Speaker 4: player that like could really ease everything for this team

525
00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,400
Speaker 4: going into just the future knowing you have this guy

526
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Speaker 4: who can do all these different things really well.

527
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and we want to talk about the future.

528
00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,200
Speaker 2: Noel mclayan, is that fucking that he's that guy.

529
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Speaker 3: Talk about the fucking president. Baby, No Nol McLain.

530
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Speaker 4: That was sick to do that on national television with

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Speaker 4: his whole family there, just because he's from the North

532
00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,800
Speaker 4: Carolina area. Like that was sick, especially while we had

533
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Speaker 4: half the broadcast ruins, just because dude Tom Glavin and

534
00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,040
Speaker 4: Greg had had to spew nonsense. I had to hear

535
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Speaker 4: John Smallt's talk shit about the state of baseball while

536
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Speaker 4: we're rallying.

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Speaker 2: I gotta I got a question. How many times are

538
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Speaker 2: the Braves gonna trot those three out? It's I feel

539
00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:52,600
Speaker 2: like three or four times a year these guys throughout

540
00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,560
Speaker 2: the first pitch, they get honored three or four times

541
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Speaker 2: a year. It's insane.

542
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Speaker 4: They honored the World Series team before that game on Friday,

543
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Speaker 4: So McClain was pitching in front of a lither will

544
00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,960
Speaker 4: sell out packed house like there was there was that

545
00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:06,000
Speaker 4: place was loud on television again, so annoying. I get

546
00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,920
Speaker 4: I like Maddix, Maddox is, this is good, Maddox is great,

547
00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:11,720
Speaker 4: but when once you get smalten, they're just talking about

548
00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:13,239
Speaker 4: much he hates baseball and gets the other guys who

549
00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,199
Speaker 4: agree with him, but basically how all the players who

550
00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:15,800
Speaker 4: are playing.

551
00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:16,679
Speaker 2: Are like not near.

552
00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, they can't throw seven innings like we did. Huh

553
00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,159
Speaker 4: you know the innings actually on like off the next day.

554
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Speaker 4: It's like it's just so annoyed to him to do that.

555
00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:25,720
Speaker 2: But almost fired off a tweet and being like, there's

556
00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,919
Speaker 2: nothing more than like old heads in baseball love to

557
00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,280
Speaker 2: do then like tear down the game that they love.

558
00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,720
Speaker 2: Be like the guys we're playing right now never could

559
00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,240
Speaker 2: have hung in my time. They can't this. This game

560
00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,320
Speaker 2: is terrible. You shouldn't even watch this anymore.

561
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Speaker 4: There was a tweet that was going viral about how

562
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Speaker 4: like we've wrongly recalibrated radar goal.

563
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Speaker 2: That was the tweet that I saw that made me

564
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Speaker 2: think to put out that tweet where I was like

565
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Speaker 2: the weird narrative that again, like that group of baseball

566
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Speaker 2: people have, I mean, shout out pitching Ninja for replying

567
00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,920
Speaker 2: to him and be like this is incredibly misleading and

568
00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:00,000
Speaker 2: also incorrect, like this stuff is so stupid.

569
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Speaker 4: Mike Petrella had a similar retort to it, where he

570
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Speaker 4: basically was like, so you're gonna tell me that in

571
00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,600
Speaker 4: every single sport we're seeing players stronger, faster, bigger, But

572
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,560
Speaker 4: for some reason, baseball it's the only sport where the

573
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Speaker 4: guys are not throwing harder.

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Speaker 3: How could that? How could that be possible?

575
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Speaker 4: I guess so just that was a little quick media

576
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Speaker 4: marvel inside of inside of the Nolan McLain recap, but

577
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Speaker 4: he was sick. Something so cool that he did in

578
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:24,040
Speaker 4: this game was that he did it totally differently in

579
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Speaker 4: that first start, and we got that great SoundBite for

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Speaker 4: you guys. You put it in the last episode, right

581
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Speaker 4: the locker room thing.

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Speaker 2: Oh definitely forgot to put it in.

583
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Speaker 3: You forgot to put it in.

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Speaker 2: Put it in, put it in now. I'll put it

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Speaker 2: right now.

586
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Speaker 3: I can't forgot to put it in there.

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Speaker 2: Oh I definitely forgot.

588
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Speaker 3: Now you remind you, super forgot painful? All right? Shot out?

589
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Speaker 4: I got Tim NBC from the NATS Chat podcast. He

590
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Speaker 4: asked about why Nolan McLain and you guys just heard

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Speaker 4: it right now.

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Speaker 2: No, it's your cur much more.

593
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Speaker 3: The other guys than a triple A. What made you comfortable, which.

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Speaker 7: Is, uh, yeah, I think I mean one of the

595
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Speaker 7: game was just calling for it at the time. I

596
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Speaker 7: didn't have a tremendous feel of my sweeper the other day,

597
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Speaker 7: especially the left handers, so I had to make an

598
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Speaker 7: adjustment and it ended up being the curveball, especially with

599
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Speaker 7: two strikes. It's been something I started throwing a lot

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Speaker 7: more in Triple A later in the year. I'm sure

601
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Speaker 7: the percentages were still lower than most of my pitches,

602
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Speaker 7: but uh, there's definitely something that I probably about halfway

603
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Speaker 7: through and Triple A I started started mixing in a

604
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Speaker 7: lot more two strikes, just something to get into the

605
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Speaker 7: dirt and change eye levels a little bit.

606
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Speaker 2: What's the biggest thing you're working on ahead of the

607
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Speaker 2: next step.

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Speaker 7: Just staying ahead, making sure my sweeper is getting to

609
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Speaker 7: the glove side a little bit better and not leaving

610
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Speaker 7: at arms side with those lazy style misses of just

611
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Speaker 7: kind of coming out of my hand weird and being uncompetitive.

612
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Speaker 7: I want all my misses to be competitive and standing

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Speaker 7: in the zone as long as possible.

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Speaker 4: He asked about why Nolan mclan going to that curve ball,

615
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Speaker 4: and was cool to hear him say the game called

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Speaker 4: for it were this game against the Braves, like we

617
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Speaker 4: talked to you guys about in the series preview, much

618
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Speaker 4: more righty heavy.

619
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Speaker 3: Lined up much less platoons.

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Speaker 4: With that, he was able to go to the sweeper

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Speaker 4: and the sinker, the two pitches that are his bread

622
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Speaker 4: and butter, and use those pitches kind of torment these

623
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Speaker 4: guys and not be hunting for these strikeouts and hunting

624
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Speaker 4: for these wists, getting tons of ground balls, forcing tons

625
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,359
Speaker 4: of weak contact, and completing seven innings for the first

626
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,880
Speaker 4: met not named David Peterson since April thirteenth.

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Speaker 2: It's fun to watch him throw. He attack hitters, which

628
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 2: is really nice. He's got good control, good command, which

629
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Speaker 2: is something that he did initially struggle with in the miners,

630
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Speaker 2: especially at TRIPLEA. Early on, that walker was pretty high,

631
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Speaker 2: but like you said, because there were so many Writti's

632
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 2: in there, he could use his bread and butter pitches

633
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Speaker 2: with that sinker and that sweeper and really just make

634
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,879
Speaker 2: these Braves hitters look foolish. And that sinker again, I

635
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 2: don't know what it is, but it looks like it

636
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 2: moves differently than everyone else's sinker. It's got crazy. I

637
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,160
Speaker 2: feel like it goes up to go down. I don't

638
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Speaker 2: know why. That's a visual thing. I'm sure yeah, I

639
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Speaker 2: don't know why too. I'll check, I'll check the moving

640
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 2: profile on it right now specifically. But like this was,

641
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 2: he also got to a point in this game where

642
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 2: he was starting to do some like real ballsy things

643
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,159
Speaker 2: with these his pitches. Like right when the lineup went

644
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 2: around for a third time, he picked off his strike

645
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 2: on a front hip sinker to Jerkes's profile. And we

646
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Speaker 2: say a front hip sinker is that when the pitcher

647
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Speaker 2: like Noel mclaim's right, his sinker's going to move to

648
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Speaker 2: his arm side. You aim that sinker at the left

649
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 2: handed batter's hip and it goes back and knocks off

650
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,160
Speaker 2: and just nips that low and inside corner.

651
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Speaker 3: Michael Bartolo Cologne fastball.

652
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Speaker 4: Yes, Michael King does this really will well, really really

653
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Speaker 4: well right now too. But the fact that he had

654
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Speaker 4: again the bass do that, and then the way he

655
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 4: saw it off Ronald Cooney Junior later inning through a

656
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 4: ninety seven mile power fastball.

657
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 3: I remember that.

658
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 2: I think that was the sixth or the seventh inning

659
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 2: when he did that, I was just like oh Man,

660
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 2: and he made Matt Olson, one of the best lessons

661
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 2: at batist in baseball look stupid. That pitch was many occasions,

662
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 2: that pitch that basically over yeah, hit his back foot.

663
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 2: That was like one of the nastiest pitchers I've ever seen.

664
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 2: It was, It's ferocious, and he struck him out three times.

665
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 2: This is one of literally one of the best left

666
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,159
Speaker 2: handed batteris is in the league. Maddlson's supposed to have

667
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:45,400
Speaker 2: the advantage against them.

668
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 4: This is McLean's weakness and that's Matt Olson's strength, and

669
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 4: he still made him look.

670
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:50,360
Speaker 3: Dumb every single time.

671
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,120
Speaker 4: Like I remember those early career at bass for even

672
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,159
Speaker 4: David Peterson, a lefty against Matt Olson, how often that

673
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 4: bad ales used to get the better of him on

674
00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 4: like a two strike change up his third time around.

675
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:01,919
Speaker 4: But it's just that even this game too, with the

676
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 4: sin Christ and the sweepers being prominent, working low in

677
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 4: the zone a lot, thirteen of the seventeen balls the

678
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,160
Speaker 4: Braves put in play were on the ground.

679
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 2: You can't you can't lose like that. You're getting thirteen

680
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 2: ground balls and seven strikeouts, Like seven innings is like

681
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:15,919
Speaker 2: the minimum you can do.

682
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 4: Like it was he was so in control. He's so poised.

683
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 4: He pitches with big, huge, gigantic balls. Being supported by

684
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 4: twenty one hits helps a lot. The fact that we

685
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 4: had four runs by the fourth every by the fourth

686
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 4: inning of this game, all.

687
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 3: Nine players in the Mess lineup had a hit.

688
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 1: Sick.

689
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 4: Could you imagine that shit? But like the fact that

690
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 4: he was able, that's it. If I found a way

691
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 4: we brought we brought the nose up. That's one of

692
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,360
Speaker 4: the best risk teams in baseball. For the last two months,

693
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,120
Speaker 4: we've got that. That was moving around a lot because

694
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 4: I may, but it's just he He's making these guys.

695
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 4: It's like this is a birth of something special. Like

696
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 4: watching him pitch, Like I don't want to put too

697
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,239
Speaker 4: much on his shoulders, but I literally can't wait till

698
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 4: he pitches again.

699
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, of course I'm not gonna say anything insane,

700
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 2: but like, uh, definitely frustrated again, though happy frustrated, super

701
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,120
Speaker 2: happy frustrated because he is I mean, met to make

702
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 2: the playoffs. He's what game two starter.

703
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 4: Maybe if you thought about twenty thirty three, we got

704
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 4: the ext year at the moment. I mean, also, if

705
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 4: he does win the Rookie of the Year next year

706
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,160
Speaker 4: and we get that draft pick, we'll be like, yeah, but.

707
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 2: We did it. But we also like might have Jodah

708
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 2: Toong who's also competing for that next year, and then

709
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 2: also Carson Benjer. I mean maybe this was the whole plan.

710
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 2: Is we're gonna take over the top three of the

711
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,719
Speaker 2: Rookie of the Year voting and guarantee that we get

712
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 2: an extra pick.

713
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the whole plan.

714
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 4: It's just it's it's so cool to watch Nolan McLain

715
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 4: do this again. A little bit of frustration because why

716
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 4: I wasn't in the frontation like two months ago, but

717
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 4: also at the same time, like it's it's nice to

718
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 4: be watching this in real time and like really seeing

719
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 4: the proof and the putting that everything that we've been

720
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 4: talking about for the last few years and everything that

721
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 4: we know as Mets team is trying to build under

722
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 4: the surface seems to be working in a really resounding

723
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 4: way with at least the first breakthrough possible star from it.

724
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just awesome and really really fun to watch.

725
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 2: It's a very comfortable, relaxing watch seeing Nolan McLain out there,

726
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 2: which is pretty pretty impossible for most pictures to be

727
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,640
Speaker 2: second starting to their career. He's, of course he's gonna

728
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 2: have a bad eventually. It will happen, just like Rowski,

729
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 2: just like Falte, and just like everybody. But the two

730
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 2: starts that we've seen from thus far have been truly

731
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 2: astounding to watch. That's the word we'll use.

732
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 4: And like, if you would have came out done the

733
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 4: exact same thing he did against the Mariner's been like,

734
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 4: I'm gonna just breaking all these guys death and pitch

735
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 4: really well, I would have been like, yes, this is awesome.

736
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 4: But seeing that level of pitch ability from a young

737
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 4: guy like this who is not ever he's still has

738
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 4: not been a full time pitcher for when this is

739
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 4: first year being a full time pittuer for the entire year?

740
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 3: Is it? He was hitting last season in like May,

741
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:32,959
Speaker 3: this is it?

742
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 4: And he the fact that even like he went out

743
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,120
Speaker 4: with his fast ball, He's like, yeah, I'm just gonna

744
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 4: start blowing fastballs by guys because I don't think they're

745
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 4: expecting it, which is also so cool you again listening

746
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 4: back to that quote him being like this what the

747
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 4: game called for, the fact that you can be a

748
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 4: different picture inside of everyone repertoire successfully at this point

749
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 4: two starts into your career with that kind of poise,

750
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 4: like that's something that takes you a long way. It's

751
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 4: got to feel good for too, for Jeremy Haffner, where

752
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 4: it's like, we have a game plan and we can

753
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 4: execute this game plan.

754
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 2: How nice is this?

755
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 3: And and then well again it was really nice.

756
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 4: For a long time, we thought were gonna be able

757
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 4: to walk through this game and wind up being like

758
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 4: the easiest win of the season, because again, we were

759
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 4: winning this game when Nolan McLain left before no, well

760
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,120
Speaker 4: until anyone besides Nolan McLain threw a pitch.

761
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,880
Speaker 2: We were winning this game twelve to two. Yes, yeah,

762
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 2: we had twenty hits.

763
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 4: And then the side of these twins of what's going

764
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 4: wrong right now in this Mets bullpen read Garrett and

765
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 4: Ryan Helsley come in and make this so much sweathereer

766
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 4: that ever had to be, so much more nerve wracking

767
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 4: and tiresome this game ever should have been.

768
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 3: And there's there.

769
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 4: Should be some I think there is, but some cost

770
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 4: for concern about both of these guys.

771
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's crazy to see Ryan Helsley continue

772
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 2: to get shitited on. He's not even close to being

773
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 2: a good pitcher right now, Like I don't know how

774
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 2: he gets out of the woods here. Same thing with

775
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 2: Reed Garrett. Both of them feel mega lost. Both of

776
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 2: them feel like kind of hopeless right now. Where I've

777
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 2: seen you be good pitchers, especially Reied Garrett we've seen

778
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 2: for a couple of years, but he always goes in

779
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 2: these weird streaks where he is almost unpitchable. And he

780
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 2: got through the inning at least, thank goodness, because again

781
00:28:58,320 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 2: it was twelve to five when he got out of

782
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 2: the game, read Garrett, But to give up those three

783
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 2: runs stressful, didn't even walk anybody, and then for Helsley

784
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 2: to then come in the ninth in what was a

785
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 2: bit of a I don't want to say disrespectful because

786
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 2: Ryan Helseley does not deserve any close games right now

787
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 2: by any means, but that's a bit of a wake

788
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 2: up call. I feel like when you bring out Ryan

789
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 2: Helsley in a twelve five game, that's a little bit

790
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 2: of a shot to him, like, hey, we need you

791
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,239
Speaker 2: to get confident, we need you to get right, and

792
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 2: he's not. He still isn't three hits, three hundred runs.

793
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,120
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Speaker 4: And it's just like I tried to get really deep

819
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 4: on Ryan Helsy here and look at what's going on,

820
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 4: like what's wrong and even this game, because I think

821
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 4: a lot of times, for a lot of these other appearances,

822
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 4: it's been like his command's been off.

823
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 3: This one, he was in the zone.

824
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 4: I think the Mets were instructing him be in the

825
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 4: zone and they were trying to push up his curveball

826
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 4: usage in this one where he in one bad inning,

827
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 4: he threw six curve balls. Rann Helsey's not throw very

828
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 4: many curveballs. He is a very well While he was

829
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 4: with the Cardinals for the first three months of the season,

830
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 4: he threw thirty two total curveballs. Yeah, so that's like

831
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 4: that was like eighteen percent of all the curve balls

832
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 4: he threw before this trade happened.

833
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 3: Just in this one horrible inning and.

834
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 4: Looking deeply like there's no real changes in the velocity,

835
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 4: the pitch movement, the arm mangled, the extension.

836
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 3: It really does come down to the sequencing and the.

837
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 4: Fact that he's not able to get the swings and

838
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 4: misses at all. And that's slider like he was that

839
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 4: Slyer was like a it was whacked. It was one

840
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 4: of the best pitches in the league. Like that pitch

841
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 4: itself had a forty five percent striker right in, a

842
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 4: forty six percent w free so far as it met.

843
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 3: And this is including of course that disaster.

844
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 4: On Friday, so it's only just twenty four percent striker

845
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 4: and thirty four percent went free. When that's the one

846
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 4: pitch you can lean on like that, it just needs

847
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 4: to be better because his fastball is like kind of

848
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 4: a medium with pitch it really more so it's like

849
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 4: it's to get called strikes, it to get a head pitch,

850
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 4: and he needs that slider to be the finisher. It's

851
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 4: not the finisher. It makes me a little bit almost

852
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 4: worried that they're breaking out this curveball. So I'm like,

853
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 4: you should have been able to be this two pitch guy,

854
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 4: and now we're trying. And again this goes back to

855
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 4: the conversation about after the other day, where like you're

856
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,239
Speaker 4: trying to get cast exparisions on my goat, but it's

857
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 4: also like he's clearly the lat with these guys trying

858
00:31:59,280 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 4: to do something here.

859
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 2: And listen, listen my dispersions that I was casting, as

860
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 2: you just so eloquently said, It was just it was

861
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 2: a thought cop process. It was a conversation. I give

862
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 2: I have to play both sides. I give Eric Chavez

863
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 2: and Jeremy Barnes the utmost shit. So when pitching goes wrong,

864
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 2: I just I have to be fair to Jeremy Hefner.

865
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 2: He understands he doesn't take offense.

866
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 3: That's right.

867
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 4: But that also to me is like maybe again, hopefully

868
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 4: it's a good thing. Hopefully maybe he can corral that

869
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 4: curve ball and that curveball comes a piece and then

870
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 4: we just we we back our way back into this thing.

871
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 2: But I was gonna say, the the best case scenario

872
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 2: is like get it, get it all the fuck out now, man,

873
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 2: get it all out now, figure it out. So that

874
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 2: if we were playing October baseball, Ryan Helsley is back

875
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 2: to the version I was, because he was a. He

876
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 2: was a top ten reliever in all of baseball undoubtedly

877
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 2: before coming to the Mets. And then he comes here

878
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 2: and it's like those brights they're too light, turn them off.

879
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then maybe that probably is some of it too,

880
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 4: Like this definitely comes down to one like a lot

881
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 4: of just small sample shit, Like he's only made five

882
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 4: appearances with the Mets.

883
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 3: It feels like a lot because we got him over. Yeah,

884
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 3: so then they've they've.

885
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 4: All been bad basically besides the first one, which almost

886
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 4: got bad if you remember right that Friday night against

887
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 4: the Giants, and and then all of a sudden, like

888
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 4: these things start to snowball. And being reliever is such

889
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 4: a mental game, Like here Trevor May talk about that

890
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 4: all the time, and he does his own content and

891
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 4: he goes on rates and barrels every single week, where

892
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 4: it's just like you kind of.

893
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 3: Have to believe like you're the man, you're the guy.

894
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 4: It's like, and now the fact that belief is gone,

895
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 4: you're coming into blowouts, you're trying to work on a

896
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 4: fold in a new pitch, you're Slyther, which is your

897
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 4: bread and Butther doesn't get one swing and miss in

898
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 4: that game where it's just like you can't spot them

899
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 4: right like some of these callstrikes them.

900
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 3: You're not burying them, but you bury them, you're spiking him.

901
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 4: It's not close. It's a it's a scary thing for

902
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 4: healsy right now. But also the thing where I know

903
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 4: that like one click and it happens back like this

904
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 4: is a similar thing with Hellsley. People are clamoring to

905
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 4: get Ryan Stanick off his team like same like last

906
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 4: August and Ryan Stanick literally was an unusable relief pitcher

907
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 4: and then three and three weeks later he was the

908
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 4: primary setup man. Like that's just when guys throw one

909
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 4: hundred miles per hour. It's kind of like, I don't know.

910
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 4: They're kind of like puppies in a way, like you

911
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 4: just got a nurse milong, Like they'll piss on the rug,

912
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 4: no worries, Like you gotta give them, let them make

913
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 4: their mistakes because if they anything goes right, like it'll

914
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 4: be the best experience ever.

915
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 2: Can I talk about some of the positive from from

916
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 2: Friday as well?

917
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 3: Could you read garreic quickly?

918
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:03,239
Speaker 6: Oh?

919
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, do Regarra forgot I honestly, there was so much

920
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 2: negative I thought we just like I thought we slipped

921
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 2: them in there a little bit.

922
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 4: Read Garrett, I'm a little bit more concerned about than

923
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 4: but either Hellesley or Standic right now, just because he is.

924
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 4: This is the same thing that happened with Reed Garrett

925
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 4: last year early in season, the first time he went

926
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,800
Speaker 4: down the skids a little bit where they're not chasing

927
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 4: the stuff anymore. He's not getting swings and missus out

928
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 4: of his zone on really anything besides the splither. And

929
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 4: this is the same thing we talked about Sang all

930
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 4: the time, where if they know that splither's coming, it's

931
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 4: really easy one to hit. And if they know what's

932
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 4: coming and they're not swinging out of the zone, then

933
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 4: he has to throw the in zonef to throw an

934
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 4: in the zone like we just talked about Murph, if

935
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 4: it's straight and slow like the hitter seat that coming

936
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 4: from a mile away where.

937
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 3: He is not.

938
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 4: He's only gotten one swing and miss on his sweeper

939
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 4: out of the zone since the end of June.

940
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 2: That's so bad.

941
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,800
Speaker 4: And because color is a pitch that he's not throwing

942
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 4: it in the zone as much as he was, but

943
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 4: they're not chasing it when it's out of it. He

944
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 4: has No, he has zero chases Missus on his color

945
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 4: since the end of June. So it's a situation happens

946
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 4: Rigat right now where it's like he doesn't have the

947
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 4: overpowering fastballs, but he has all the junk on them.

948
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 3: He has to be locating that junk. Betan right now,

949
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 3: he's just.

950
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 2: Not you know, he's there's there's three guys right now

951
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 2: very concerned about in the bullpen, which I didn't think

952
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 2: I'd be having that feeling right now.

953
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, I have missed this.

954
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 4: After the game, John harp stweets now talking about the

955
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 4: last moment about negative stuff. Sure todd Ziel said that

956
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 4: he thinks that Tyrone Taylor catches that ball that dropped

957
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:22,720
Speaker 4: in front of Mallins.

958
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 2: I think that's toxic. I think it's toxic to say that.

959
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 2: I think that's a bad look. Keith was very he

960
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 2: was like, nobody makes that play. He goes He's like,

961
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,359
Speaker 2: you need to make a perfect play, and even still

962
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 2: then you have to lay out tough play. I thought

963
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 2: it was a tough play. I think there's a lot

964
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 2: of unwarranted hate still to Cedric Mullins, who had a

965
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 2: nice little weekend by the way, oh he did. And

966
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,280
Speaker 2: I think again, like Cedric Mallins isn't an elite center

967
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 2: field defender, he's a good center field defender. Tyrone Taylor

968
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 2: is closer to being elite center field defender, but very

969
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 2: clearly he's much less capable.

970
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 3: With the bat than Cedric Mallins. And it's not even

971
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 3: a conversation.

972
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 2: It does also matter too, like where Tyrone would have

973
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,720
Speaker 2: been to start the pitch too, Like what if Tyrone

974
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 2: plays a little deeper? What if he plays you know,

975
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 2: like there there's different things that get put into the

976
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 2: I feel like that's not fair to really say that

977
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 2: to Cedric Mullins. I do think that's a little bit

978
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 2: of a shit job there by Toddsy. That's a little

979
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 2: media marvelish.

980
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,399
Speaker 4: Kind of a little bit. It's close to a media marvel.

981
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,240
Speaker 4: If that becomes a bigger story, maybe with media marvel

982
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 4: in a little wild, but I think I think that Okay,

983
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 4: it's just yes, sometimes you gotta blame the lunch lady,

984
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 4: and I think that's happening right now. People trying to

985
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 4: point fingers after a loss like this.

986
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 3: Sometimes it's just loose.

987
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 2: And what's funny too, is it was again relatively a

988
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 2: great weekend because the Mets bass absolutely woke up. Dude,

989
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 2: I don't again. We love WANSDA on this podcast. The

990
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 2: rest of the world not so much. You know what

991
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 2: Wansda's numbers are the last two weeks, tell me last

992
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 2: fifteen games that Wan Soda has played. Thirteen home or

993
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 2: uh no, sorry, six home runs, six home runs, thirteen RBIs,

994
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 2: seventeen walks, fifteen strikeouts, fourteen hits. He's got an o

995
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 2: ps A ten twenty four over the last two weeks.

996
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 4: Now, he's pretty good watching watching him every single day

997
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,720
Speaker 4: like this guy is unbelievable. Also, a lot of credit

998
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 4: has to be heat done to Starling Marte. Starling Marte

999
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 4: oddly has been it was glue. He's been the glue guy,

1000
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 4: like in a crazy way, like when these when both

1001
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 4: of these games dropped lineups. When Starling Mart's he was

1002
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:01,800
Speaker 4: thinking there a Friday, I was like shit and was

1003
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 4: starring MARTA's leftfield Saurday, I was like shit. And both

1004
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 4: times in both games he did something really good from

1005
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 4: those spots to help the team win.

1006
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 2: We are going on his last thirty games. Stalrn Martez

1007
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 2: in nine to twenty eight ops and one hundred at

1008
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,240
Speaker 2: bats that's also.

1009
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 3: Went injury in between.

1010
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, like, that's really really good. He's played really good baseball.

1011
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 2: And then you could just go through this lineup and

1012
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 2: you're starting to see maybe those bats wake up a

1013
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 2: little bit. Francisco Lindor, we know, has been absolutely on fire,

1014
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 2: but especially the last fifteen days, even the last thirty games,

1015
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 2: his OPS is above nine hundred. The last fifteen games

1016
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 2: it's over eleven hundred. The dudes locked in at the plate.

1017
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,879
Speaker 2: The one guy who's really not hitting right now is Peete.

1018
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 2: That's pretty much it.

1019
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 3: I have a crazy satura about Lindor.

1020
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 4: So I covered the Mets game on Friday for NBC,

1021
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 4: and at this time Lindor's last ten games after Friday

1022
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,439
Speaker 4: night he was twenty two for forty four.

1023
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 2: Oh so for.

1024
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 4: A ten game stretch he was five hundred, and those

1025
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 4: ten games he bumped his OPS from seven thirty five

1026
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 4: to seven ninety seven in ten games in the middle

1027
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 4: of August, he went sixty OPS points after hitting five hundred.

1028
00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 3: So I think that's another.

1029
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 4: One where it's like cool, now we got now the

1030
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 4: statslic Knights again, it's all good. The one guy who's

1031
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 4: not gonna get the stats like a nice again who

1032
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 4: is really important though, just to be nice, it's Vento's yep,

1033
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 4: especially with him and Marte together, if they can be

1034
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 4: lefty mashers, that that makes his team look a lot

1035
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 4: different as we head down the stretch and have to

1036
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 4: play some of these tough lefties.

1037
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 2: It's the conversation that Mookie Betts has had out loud

1038
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 2: a couple times, where's like, this season's numbers are going

1039
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 2: to look bad for me. This is a lost year statistically,

1040
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 2: but I can still finish the year and be the

1041
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 2: player that I can be. And for Mark Fiento's his

1042
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 2: last thirty games, we're looking at an ops of eight

1043
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 2: forty three. That's phenomenal. Seven to seventy ops. Mark Fiento's

1044
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 2: would be a revelation to this team. If he is

1045
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 2: like that eight forty ops is basically what he did

1046
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 2: last year. If he is the last year version of

1047
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 2: Mark Viento's again, this team becomes very scary at the

1048
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 2: plate literally.

1049
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 4: And I think that that conversation that we have about

1050
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 4: Betts a lot, that's a really easy thing to like

1051
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 4: mentally get throuin your Hall of Fame with multiple World

1052
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 4: Series rings. Of course, I think it's a very difficult

1053
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 4: mental hurdle for a guy like Mark Vando's twenty five

1054
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 4: years old, still actively looking for his footing in this league.

1055
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 4: Came up in trade discussions, was the hero became the pariah,

1056
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 4: Like he's gotten everything in between the last twelve months.

1057
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 4: So I think it's it maybe hated beloved, like getting

1058
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 4: shit talking to the Messed Up podcast, getting loved in

1059
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 4: the mess like he's been.

1060
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 3: He's literally done that.

1061
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 4: He's run the whole game, but in twelve months, and

1062
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 4: so I think if if he can get through that

1063
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 4: mental hurdles, I think seeing his confidence, like seeing the

1064
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 4: way swinging the bat, harder pulling the ball, being more

1065
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 4: decisive with more conviction at the plate, like those are

1066
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 4: all things I think play into this just a big

1067
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 4: step forward him again being some guys that we need

1068
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 4: to like in this lineup because at this point in

1069
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 4: the season, I'm so confident Brett Baty player. Oh yeah,

1070
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 4: of course he's great, the great Brett Baty. You basically

1071
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 4: can't take him out against any pitcher. He's by one

1072
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 4: of those positions like he's locked in there and the red.

1073
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 2: Baty's almost at a point where like this offseason, you

1074
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 2: don't even consider trading him because he's so valud because

1075
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,399
Speaker 2: he plays multiple positions. You'd really need to go get

1076
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,919
Speaker 2: like a guy if you're gonna be moving Brett Baty

1077
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 2: at this point.

1078
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, Elisa, it would have to.

1079
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 2: Be like a guy guy like and then you you

1080
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 2: still that's like if the Tigers want try to do

1081
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 2: it without them. It's like if the Tigers were like,

1082
00:39:56,480 --> 00:40:01,240
Speaker 2: you want Derek Scougle, You're like, yes, yes, we do well, yes.

1083
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 3: Thirty two year old coun Tell Marte, Yeah it could.

1084
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 2: Tell is still like one of the ten best players,

1085
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 2: like with like a seven year deal, one hundred fifty

1086
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:09,919
Speaker 2: milt left, he's got, He's here un till twenty thirty.

1087
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 2: So it is Brett Baty, very same thing.

1088
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 4: But I know, I think that breathing game to a

1089
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 4: point Brett Bailey where it's like I'm just confident in

1090
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 4: his spot, you know what I mean. Like next year

1091
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 4: he's starting an opening day I don't know where, but

1092
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 4: the rest of the team will fill in around him. Yeah,

1093
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 4: he may not be the everyday player ever for this team,

1094
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 4: but he might be the play three four times a

1095
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 4: week because you can move between third and second.

1096
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 2: I know, I think next year he will be for

1097
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 2: sure being every day player. Oh you think so?

1098
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 4: Heading his season? Third, Okay, we're working on eighty three

1099
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 4: games at.

1100
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 3: Eight hundred ops and pop plus teason spots.

1101
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 2: I like it.

1102
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:41,359
Speaker 4: This is the exact thing that Mark you just did

1103
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 4: last year. So maybe it's all happens again. But it's

1104
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 4: just like next year. Yeah, it's just you just you

1105
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 4: could just like feel the ballplayer is from Brett Bailey's emanating,

1106
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 4: like the confidence is growing so much, both like of

1107
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 4: himself and his teammates of him.

1108
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 2: Also, that's cool. You see how bad he got major

1109
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 2: screwed today. There was a strike three called mist to

1110
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,879
Speaker 2: him from Bryce Elder at one point in the game,

1111
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 2: clear strike three missed it. The next pitch was about

1112
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,879
Speaker 2: three inches inside to Brett, baby umpire punched him right out.

1113
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 2: Keith rad on the radio was like, oh, he's like,

1114
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 2: I know you missed that last weeks, but you can't

1115
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 2: give that one a makeup call. It wasn't even close a.

1116
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 3: Radic strike zone.

1117
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 4: Definitely on Sunday, but there was also a play that Baby,

1118
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna say it was a play like you

1119
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 4: should have made, but that double play before the rally began.

1120
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just.

1121
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 3: It was a good turn. He's just somebodys didn't get

1122
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 3: a lot in the throat.

1123
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 4: Yes, ozzielvii's does run well, so this hard to turn

1124
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:31,919
Speaker 4: two on him wasn't the hardest hick ground ball either.

1125
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 4: It was just it was a again like we're gonna

1126
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 4: nipick everyone.

1127
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 3: We got nippi him as well.

1128
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 2: Okay, let's let's let's move ahead. Now let's look forward.

1129
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 2: Big series, Philadelphia Phillies coming to town. James, you've been

1130
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 2: telling the people what the pitchers are doing, and it's

1131
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 2: been working. We can't hit Bryce Elder. He's got some

1132
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 2: witch magic. Like I fuck it, I'm done. No more

1133
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 2: Bryce Elder anymore, probably this season. So we're good. Eric Fetty,

1134
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 2: your boy got shelled. Joey Wentz got shelled. Cow Quantrell

1135
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 2: got sheld. The bullpen got shelled. There's a lot of

1136
00:41:58,320 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 2: pressure on you because this series against the Phillies, we

1137
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 2: are very far away seven seven games back as of

1138
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 2: August twenty fourth. Let's let's make up some ground here.

1139
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,240
Speaker 2: So what are the pitching matchups for us?

1140
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 1: All right?

1141
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:13,280
Speaker 4: So, uh, first game of the series code I Sanga

1142
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:18,800
Speaker 4: versus Christopher Sanchez, hayesof yeah, it's almost we wish it's

1143
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,720
Speaker 4: a half faces Christopher Sanchez Tuesday another seven ten Sean

1144
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 4: and I versus hayesus Lazar though, and then Wednesday you

1145
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 4: don't talking about an asoff, Nolan McLain versus Taiwan Walker.

1146
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,720
Speaker 3: We're gonna be there right Wednesday, Wednesday and not Wednesdays.

1147
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 3: Want tom working.

1148
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 4: I'm planning to go Monday and Tuesday though, all right,

1149
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 4: I'll be their Monday Tuesday as well. I Also, I'm

1150
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 4: curious about how the Mets handle is rotation. Like we're

1151
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 4: gonna talk about these pictures in a second here, but

1152
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 4: Sanga has not looked good, and you're pitching them on

1153
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 4: the fifth day, Like, I don't know if they do

1154
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 4: something to shuffle these guys around, but I do think

1155
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,800
Speaker 4: if they want McClain to face the Phillies, Like, I'm

1156
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 4: very curious about how they how they handle all this stuff.

1157
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 2: Now, I'm not saying that for this series, But wasn't

1158
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 2: there a tweet? Didn't Puma kind of stir the a

1159
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,240
Speaker 2: little bit yesterday saying that people inside the Mets organization

1160
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 2: like Jonah tong has pitched two games in Triple A.

1161
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 2: It's been untouchable, and like everybody in the world is

1162
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 2: singing his praises, like his stuff is just it's one

1163
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 2: of the best in baseball, let alone just Triple A,

1164
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 2: like the Mets Puma Sweet. Basically on the lines was

1165
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 2: that people inside the Mets organization didn't think it was

1166
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 2: gonna be a conversation about Jonah Tongue being come up

1167
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 2: this year. Now people are like, should should he make

1168
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 2: a start? I'm not saying it's gonna be against this

1169
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 2: Phillies team, but maybe that's a way, like he kind

1170
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,720
Speaker 2: of work out this rotation, well, just pitch on Friday.

1171
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 3: So I don't think he can pitch in the series.

1172
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. I said, it's not this series,

1173
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 2: but just to talk about how we can maybe get

1174
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,879
Speaker 2: Code I Sangle or even Clay Holmes an extra day.

1175
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 2: We know how big that is for him as well. Well.

1176
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 4: Similarly, we figured that this made a lot of sense

1177
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 4: for the Brandon's sprot debut, whether it would have come

1178
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 4: this Sunday in Atlanta or Monday at home against the Phillies,

1179
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 4: because he pitched for Syracuse on Sunday, pitched out of

1180
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 4: the bullpen for the first time I think in his life,

1181
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 4: and he did not settle in well. He got that

1182
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 4: first inning was rougher. It seemed like that was tough.

1183
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 4: That was a tough mental hurdle, so good that they

1184
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 4: tried it down Triple A rather in the Major League.

1185
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 4: But that seemed like the logical choice here for the

1186
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 4: guy that for two months has been basically untouchable on

1187
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 4: Triple A to be able to slot in on Monday

1188
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 4: and give the extra day. I think Ryan Finkelstein connected

1189
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 4: a bunch of dots about like taking four days off

1190
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 4: as the mess did right before they put no al

1191
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 4: McLean up again.

1192
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 3: Didn't come Drew for sprou So I do wonder. I

1193
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 3: still wonder.

1194
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 4: I think we probably just wind up getting some Hagan's series.

1195
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:20,720
Speaker 2: That's what I was gonna say. It's gotta be Hageman,

1196
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 2: because we know that Frankie Mantis is out for the

1197
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 2: rest of the year with the mystery UCL injury that

1198
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 2: all of a sudden came. He was warming up the

1199
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 2: night before and then all of a sudden he's got

1200
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 2: UCL injury.

1201
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 4: I mean, it would make sense if he's been pitching

1202
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 4: through something. He's been so bad it's unthinkable.

1203
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 2: I was about to say, is this is this bad?

1204
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 2: To say that, like, I hope he's hurt because he

1205
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 2: was so bad that something has to be physically wrong

1206
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 2: for how poorly he was pitching.

1207
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 3: No, I don't think that's bad at all. Also, like,

1208
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 3: you know, it's a horrible thing.

1209
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 2: But it would really clear up a lot of our

1210
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 2: questions heading into next year. When I think about, right,

1211
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 2: nothing about nothing about it, nothing about that, nothing about it,

1212
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 2: nothing about that.

1213
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 3: I just think we we've been the pre eminent foop ploppers.

1214
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 4: If we're going to see Joanna Tong this year, Literally

1215
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 4: in the last two episodes, I have to creed. I

1216
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 4: think we definitely will. That went completely against everything I thought.

1217
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 4: I said, we're definitely not. And then when Puma sent

1218
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 4: that tweet out Saturday, I was texting people like, Hey,

1219
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 4: you think this is real? And it's like I it's

1220
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 4: a that's a weird moment for Puma to get that scoop,

1221
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:14,879
Speaker 4: though would make some sense. I feel like we'd hear

1222
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 4: Martino say it, but I still just think that the

1223
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 4: two sides of the same coin were one. I think

1224
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 4: he's too good for the trip for Triple A. I

1225
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,879
Speaker 4: think he's definitely one of thirteen best pitchers in this roster,

1226
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 4: and if you have to win games, you should have

1227
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,879
Speaker 4: him pitching the majors. The other side, he just got

1228
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 4: the Triple A and he's not to the B on

1229
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 4: the forty man, Like I don't know why.

1230
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't really see David stars rushing it.

1231
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially when you do have and this, Oh, this

1232
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 2: is gonna be so sad to say, Blake, you have

1233
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 2: Hagenman who's on the forty man and has been has

1234
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 2: been good enough. But that's probably what they're thinking, is

1235
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,439
Speaker 2: like until it's really gonna be one of those moments

1236
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 2: where it's like until we physically have to call him

1237
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 2: up this year, if that's a possibility, we're not gonna

1238
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 2: do it. And you know who the guy's going to

1239
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 2: be that gets called up. Oh yeah, I'm looking at

1240
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 2: the active ross her.

1241
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 3: You do you can't figure it out?

1242
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 2: Oh no, check your phone, if you got any text messages,

1243
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,240
Speaker 2: Check my phone, if I got any text messages.

1244
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 3: Anyone asking if you're up.

1245
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:13,760
Speaker 2: Oh, Tyler McGill, Tyler forgot about him? God, Tyler McGill.

1246
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 4: Three rehab appearances, tweeted out from Mets up the other

1247
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 4: day through his three rehab stars got out of tweets.

1248
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 4: Cant I got scroll scroll scroll shout outa troll best

1249
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 4: into whatever it it is. Ten innings, five hits, two walks,

1250
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 4: no runs, seventeen strikeouts. Fuck, I said, And you know

1251
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 4: what he pitched again? I think it's he pitched Friday.

1252
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 4: I think Tog pitched Saturday.

1253
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:37,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it does.

1254
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 4: Line up that Tyler could come back on his fifth

1255
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 4: day for the Wednesday game to push back Clay Holmes.

1256
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,240
Speaker 2: If they want to do that, or he pitches baby.

1257
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 4: But that would be that woud actually McLain, That would

1258
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 4: McLain spot So again the pressure point though it was

1259
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 4: Monday with saying, guy, it seems like they're just gonna

1260
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 4: run him out there in the fifth day.

1261
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 3: And let him get lit up again.

1262
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 2: I don't love.

1263
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,879
Speaker 4: But then like also like I don't believe in punt games,

1264
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 4: but like, if you're gonna put one of them, do

1265
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 4: it against Christopher Sanchez. Let hay Khimna just take the

1266
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 4: ball against Christopher sanch Trackash lighting in the bottle, talk

1267
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 4: about masof that that would be a realized of Christopher

1268
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 4: Sanchez this whole season has not allowed more than four.

1269
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,439
Speaker 4: I guess I want to fully transition to the series

1270
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 4: priefing now, but he hasn't allowed win four and runs

1271
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,800
Speaker 4: in any start this season. Like he's one of the

1272
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 4: best pitches baseball. He probably comes in second National League

1273
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 4: young the schemes like he's that good. But I'm very

1274
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 4: curious about how we handled it because I thought that

1275
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 4: we were going to see some aggressiveness with the s

1276
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:25,720
Speaker 4: BRO promotion. Not seeing that, I'm really curious about even

1277
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 4: how much how much they expect of Sean and I

1278
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 4: and Korea saying on the fifth day.

1279
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,720
Speaker 2: I mean, it hasn't been much for like two months.

1280
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 4: So because Hagen is not even in the bullpen now,

1281
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 4: so you figure after this game bras Ubon goes back down.

1282
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 4: If they were were going to option read Garrett, they

1283
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 4: would have optioned him on Friday. If you were going

1284
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,720
Speaker 4: to cut Ryan Stanick, you would have cut them already.

1285
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 4: Like those two things are something I don't think they're

1286
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 4: going to happen.

1287
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 2: So, I mean, they could just send read Garrett down

1288
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:50,479
Speaker 2: right now.

1289
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 4: They could, but you probably were more likely to have

1290
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 4: done it after he pitched fair so I think the

1291
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 4: fact that we didn't get that notification Saturday, it makes

1292
00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 4: me think that it's just not a consideration. But then

1293
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 4: also in this say Milk, he wasn't used in high

1294
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,399
Speaker 4: leverage on Sunday, so it's like you have to kind

1295
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 4: of make decision one way or the other there. You

1296
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 4: probably just get him on this roster for brows of

1297
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 4: bon tomorrow. He probably mops up if either Sango or

1298
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 4: me and I just can't go deep, which I don't

1299
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 4: know if the other them, well.

1300
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:15,879
Speaker 2: Until they do, I don't believe it. It's kind of where

1301
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:16,320
Speaker 2: I stand.

1302
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,879
Speaker 4: So gut check says brand Spro pitch for the Mets

1303
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 4: of the season. Yes, does Joan Tong pitchure the Mets

1304
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 4: of the season?

1305
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 3: Yes?

1306
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 2: Okay, so you think you're back in on Tong, I'm

1307
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 2: back in. I'm back in the fact he really he's

1308
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 2: been so dominant. Like's it's like he's playing on rookie

1309
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 2: in Triple A. Like it's if you're if you're a

1310
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 2: Road to the Show character and you're Jonah Tong, You're like,

1311
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 2: why the fuck haven't I been called up yet? What

1312
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 2: else do you need to see? I'm so much better

1313
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 2: than these losers down here bring me up.

1314
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 4: But that's I think the thing they need to see

1315
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 4: is the fact that he can mix the arsenal a

1316
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 4: little bit more like the fact he has to be

1317
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 4: able to show that he can have the bridge pitch

1318
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 4: in between, like the fastball and the curve box.

1319
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 3: We talked about the curveball lot of.

1320
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 2: He does need it, you know, he might not need

1321
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 2: the fast ball, might be good enough.

1322
00:48:57,840 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 3: We doesn't need it.

1323
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,800
Speaker 4: I mean, because he just he ran through the Indianapolis Indians.

1324
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 4: How would they still have that name?

1325
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:03,479
Speaker 3: That's crazy? They still that the name of Cleveland doesn't

1326
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 3: That's kind of funny.

1327
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 2: Interesting.

1328
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 4: It's just it's twenty one swings and misses against like

1329
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 4: a triple A team, like his second Triple A star

1330
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 4: and in that he threw more granted as the Pirates,

1331
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 4: but it's the Pirates Triple A, so it's just like

1332
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 4: basically double A. But again with Kaya, he's he might

1333
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 4: be the exact kind of guy we talk about where

1334
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 4: it's just there's nothing, there's nothing for him to do

1335
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 4: with triple A.

1336
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 3: No, it's just he's just simply too good.

1337
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 4: While he might still have things, he theoretically has to

1338
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 4: work on before reaching the major leagues. He's just too

1339
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 4: good for triple A. And the fact that this in

1340
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 4: this start more so in the first one. The first

1341
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:34,879
Speaker 4: one I think was ninety percent fastballs change ups. Yes,

1342
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 4: this one got that down to about eighty and we

1343
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 4: were throwing some sliders and curve balls. Actually this one,

1344
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 4: the slider got two swings and missus and the shape

1345
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 4: is a bit firmer. It's like if you but the

1346
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 4: fastball might just be good enough to just deshoy major

1347
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 4: ague hider, so like he might be able to just

1348
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 4: like show it that the imanagas way like through lineups,

1349
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 4: that guy has like a two five yarra. He doesn't

1350
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 4: even look that impressive doing it, and like he's touching

1351
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 4: ninety eight like and his fast vassi does fall and

1352
00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 4: he's a couple of stars. Think he probably still puts

1353
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 4: me in his bone shown a tongue. But it's just

1354
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 4: he's one of your thirteen best pitcher. It's like it

1355
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 4: would almost be a disservice to the guys in the

1356
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 4: clubhouse and not give him something this year. And he

1357
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 4: has he probably has.

1358
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 2: More innings than McLean Orsbroke probably through maybe maybe, I

1359
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 2: mean maybe I think he's thrown less this year.

1360
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:16,360
Speaker 3: If you were this year, so fair.

1361
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think we'll see both of them

1362
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 2: at some point. I don't know if they're I don't.

1363
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna make the prediction that they're both on

1364
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 2: the playoff roster if we make it there. But I

1365
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:23,359
Speaker 2: do think we see both of them at some point

1366
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 2: this year.

1367
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 4: Oh, they got it, could be in the playoff ross.

1368
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 4: There's no but no point calling them up that I

1369
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 4: could be a playoff roster.

1370
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 2: I'm just like, if Sproke comes up and gets hit,

1371
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 2: I think he's probably gonna go right back to the sure.

1372
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, same thing with if he didn't come up and

1373
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 4: get hit. But you have one week from when recording this.

1374
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:37,359
Speaker 4: They gotta be in the forty man by September first

1375
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:38,280
Speaker 4: to playoff eligible.

1376
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 2: Is that true?

1377
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 3: I believe, So, don't check me right now.

1378
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 2: No, I think prospects are different. I think that's like

1379
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:45,800
Speaker 2: if you're bringing in guys, surely, because you should be

1380
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:50,320
Speaker 2: able to what if, what if there's a tragedy. Maybe

1381
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 2: injuries can change that. Yeah, I think like injury should

1382
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 2: be able to change that because it's I think that's

1383
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 2: more so like if you're bringing in new players to

1384
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 2: the organization has to be that'd be insane.

1385
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 3: A playoff eligible produce.

1386
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 4: This AI So it might not be true, but it's

1387
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:03,879
Speaker 4: it's it's you gotta be on the forty man roster

1388
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 4: or injured list by August thirty.

1389
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 6: First man.

1390
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 2: It feels like that can't possibly be right. I'll check, go, go,

1391
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 2: go the MLP gloss right now. I'm try to scroll

1392
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 2: right now for like September call ups that it got

1393
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 2: added to the forty man have never been able to

1394
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 2: I get maybe maybe they've just always been on the

1395
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 2: forty man.

1396
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you're on the forty man thinks about

1397
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 4: being on the forty man. Maybe that's just what it is,

1398
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 4: all right, Well, I mean, i'll tell you what to watch.

1399
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 4: Me's Mets do have.

1400
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 2: Some guys that can clear off this forty man roster though,

1401
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 2: for sure. So definitely no no offense to ty ad Cock,

1402
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:38,760
Speaker 2: Alex Correo, Kristovenski, Dom hammil Kevin Hurget, Brandon Waddell, Jonathan

1403
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 2: Pinaro still on here. There's there's room for some pictures

1404
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 2: that I think are a little higher quality than that,

1405
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 2: and I think the Mets know that I think they're

1406
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 2: really weighing it.

1407
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,479
Speaker 4: Yes, I agree, and I think that Puma is saying

1408
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,439
Speaker 4: that that can't mean nothing. He's been doing this, he's

1409
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 4: been doing this too long, and it's too many connections

1410
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 4: that throw something crazy out there like that in a

1411
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 4: Saturday evening.

1412
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 2: Too many mister softies to not have those connections.

1413
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:00,839
Speaker 4: Some ice cume for Brecas Mike Boom Special, but again,

1414
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:02,879
Speaker 4: pitching matchups the series against the Phillies after they could

1415
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 4: mind lea pitching talk, Sanga Sanchez, Mania, Lazardo McClain, Taiwan Walker,

1416
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,879
Speaker 4: Christopher Sanchez Hip the Cap. Yeah, there's there's no game

1417
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 4: plan for this one. No, it's just you gotta hope

1418
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 4: the ground balls get through the fact that he's just

1419
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 4: he's just throwing sinkers and change ups over and over again,

1420
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:18,760
Speaker 4: and they look exactly the same when they leave his hands,

1421
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 4: and they have like a ten twelve mile an hour difference.

1422
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 3: Now, so it's a nine mile an hour ten mile

1423
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 3: an hour.

1424
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 4: Difference just to drop in a lot. You're just pounding

1425
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:27,800
Speaker 4: everything to the ground. He's one of the best pitchers

1426
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 4: in baseball. He's in fucking credible.

1427
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 2: It's funny because when he first came up on the Phillies.

1428
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:33,359
Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys remember this, but he

1429
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,720
Speaker 2: was like, oh, we're facing Christopher Sanchez like he sucked

1430
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,919
Speaker 2: when he first came up, he was horrible. Didn't they

1431
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:40,240
Speaker 2: trade for him from somewhere?

1432
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 3: It's like a bleaguered prospect. Wasn't there some kind of acquisition?

1433
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,439
Speaker 2: M I'll quickly find that out for you real quick.

1434
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 2: I don't remember if that's the case. He was a

1435
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 2: Ray initially and they got him. I don't know how

1436
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:55,399
Speaker 2: they got him. They got him for Curtis Mead that okay,

1437
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 2: I knew there's a weird trade. Along on weird trade,

1438
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 2: the imagine an all time coup by the Phillies, and

1439
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 2: everyone thought Christopher Chris meat was Christopher Sanchez like the

1440
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 2: first like twenty appearances of his career had like a

1441
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 2: seven yar and now he's simply one of the best

1442
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 2: pitchers in baseball. That's your guy.

1443
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 4: Oh, I was so. I was so in on him

1444
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 4: this year. I was, I was, that was my guy

1445
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 4: for sure. But again, you're not going to I don't.

1446
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:16,320
Speaker 3: Know if you don't know if you get it to

1447
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 3: that much.

1448
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 4: Again, just you gotta get his groundballs. Through the hole

1449
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,879
Speaker 4: next to you. Guys are pretty interesting here. Haysos bizarre though,

1450
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 4: and Taiwan Walker. Lazarre, though he went blazing at the

1451
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 4: beginning of the season, was untouchable. I had a new

1452
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 4: sweeper that was great, but he's lost a lot of

1453
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 4: consistency with that sweeper as the times gone on. The

1454
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 4: thing with Lazarre, though, is that he's just simply not

1455
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 4: a strike thrower, so you kind of have to wag

1456
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 4: them out a little bit.

1457
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 3: Of Sanchez, I think.

1458
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 4: It plays just be aggressive, like he's probably going seven

1459
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 4: to eight innings anyway, so just try to get on

1460
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 4: him early in the count with the ball and play,

1461
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:41,839
Speaker 4: try and make him uncomfortable.

1462
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 2: Blazarre, though, this is like a wait. This is a

1463
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 2: wait and see game for the Mets. You want to

1464
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 2: wait to see when you until you get that hang sweeper.

1465
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 2: You want to see when he gets that change up

1466
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 2: that they can't execute to the lefty the second or

1467
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:52,800
Speaker 2: third time.

1468
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 3: Around the order.

1469
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 4: That's where he's got into trouble, third, fourth, fifth innings,

1470
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 4: going around the lineups two or three times, letting guys

1471
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 4: on base and making mistakes and hit it, getting a hole.

1472
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 3: Run hit off him.

1473
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 2: I actually hate to do this to you, but I

1474
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 2: think he's actually been really good third time through the order.

1475
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 2: I remember watching a game of his recently. He's better

1476
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 2: third time through the order than when he goes first

1477
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 2: and second time. I remember because I was like, what,

1478
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:15,320
Speaker 2: that's an insane stat.

1479
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 4: I was talking about some friends about third time to

1480
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:20,320
Speaker 4: the other stuff today on Sunday and the fact that

1481
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 4: the Mets like aren't the worst team in baseball third

1482
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 4: time to the order is really funny.

1483
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1484
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 4: You know the two teams in the league who have

1485
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 4: allowed their pitchers to face batters third time to the

1486
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:30,919
Speaker 4: order the fewest, The Dodgers they've done the fewest, and

1487
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 4: the Man Because I did that tweet the other day

1488
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 4: I got smoked about talking about like, the Mets pitchers

1489
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 4: not going deep is like a lame conversation that everyone overblows.

1490
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 2: The Brewers are gonna be my other choice.

1491
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 3: Yep, those are crazy.

1492
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 4: Those are the two teams that don't allow their pitchers

1493
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 4: to see the most hitters. I can't can't believe it too,

1494
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 4: because the Brewers don't like analytics. That's me think they

1495
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 4: would do that.

1496
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,799
Speaker 2: That's interesting too, because those teams stink right and their

1497
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 2: pitching is horrible.

1498
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,760
Speaker 4: Also, Hazel's Cizzar though I don't know where you got information,

1499
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 4: but the third time to do or it's a five

1500
00:54:58,000 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 4: six y rs, Okay, then maybe it's somebody else. Ye

1501
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 4: now I've I've covered I've covered too many of Haysles

1502
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 4: Bizzar the starts this year and watched that happen where

1503
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 4: they he'll just like let a couple of guys on

1504
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 4: base and just totally missed with something.

1505
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 3: I give up a three run home run.

1506
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:11,959
Speaker 2: I was watching a start. I'm telling you maybe maybe

1507
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:13,840
Speaker 2: maybe he got blown up that Red Sox start he

1508
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,240
Speaker 2: had three weeks ago. Really got blown up that stat

1509
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 2: because he gave up like eight runs the third time

1510
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 2: through the Earth. Yeah. To be honest, I think it

1511
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 2: might have been before that. Possibly that could have been it.

1512
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 2: But like he's just again like that. That sweeper is

1513
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 2: going to be big time.

1514
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:27,399
Speaker 4: He likes to steal strikes with for the Rdys as well,

1515
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 4: so that could be something for the Mets.

1516
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 3: To look at.

1517
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 4: He'll throw that sweeper to the Rity's early accounts and

1518
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 4: again I spoke for the Ridis once we're going to

1519
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 4: be able to hit that change up almost he's gonna

1520
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:36,879
Speaker 4: be bixing that one in.

1521
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 2: More so it's a been hot in August.

1522
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's fine, hazels Zar though every single day you

1523
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 4: do not know what you're getting.

1524
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 3: That's who is.

1525
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 4: He could throw a nineting shot out against us. We

1526
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 4: can knock them out a second inning. That's kind of

1527
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 4: who he is.

1528
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 2: Taiwan.

1529
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 4: I want to I want to go hats off to

1530
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 4: what the Phillies have done with him, because he's been

1531
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 4: like awesome, I know, but he actually has I would

1532
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 4: like to hit him. I intend to crush him. The

1533
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 4: game he just had against the Nationals on a Friday,

1534
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 4: his last pitch with the John Duran shit himself and

1535
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 4: blew that game for the Phillies. That was last time

1536
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 4: they lost that series. Walker gave with through home runs

1537
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,439
Speaker 4: a third battery in the game, and then he gave

1538
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 4: up like two more base runs the rest of his start.

1539
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 3: Like it's very amazing.

1540
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 4: And he's been doing the color thing that he used

1541
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 4: to do with us, where he's just he just leaves

1542
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 4: that color on the back door. He could make you

1543
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 4: make a late decision because all the leftis are going

1544
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 4: to be the lineup against him, So that's gonna be

1545
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 4: a fun one. Him and Solo are definitely going to

1546
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 4: have like a nine pitch battle where he's going to

1547
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 4: be trying through like seven straight colleges trying to pick

1548
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:26,879
Speaker 4: off an edge and then so they will foul off one.

1549
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 4: He'll take a close one, he'll get a call striker

1550
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 4: to look back at the umpire. Like there's going to

1551
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 4: be at least one or two good battles between Taiwan

1552
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 4: Walker and Wan Solo. But like he has a three

1553
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 4: four ERA on the season, Like he hasn't given up

1554
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 4: more than three runs in eight starts since he moved

1555
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 4: back to their rotation.

1556
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:44,280
Speaker 2: You know, like he's he's been like the absolute.

1557
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 4: Premiere, like fourth fifth star that for this team to

1558
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 4: kind of drag them through, and they have like los

1559
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 4: Zack Wheeler, inconsistency and injuries from Aaronola, like it's been

1560
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 4: kind of from more end like in major consistence from

1561
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 4: his SISTLZAR though, like he's been a weirdly steadying force

1562
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 4: for this Phillies team. Which is also something to talk

1563
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 4: about too, is that Taiwan does strike anybody out.

1564
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 2: Though this is the big thing. Yeah, it's balls in play,

1565
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:04,919
Speaker 2: and we know balls and players are dangerous. We've seen

1566
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 2: it with Clay Homes. Balls and play are dangerous. So

1567
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 2: as long as the Mets, like he's the guy where

1568
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 2: you mentioned try to jump all over Christopher Sand just

1569
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:14,839
Speaker 2: be patient with Lizardo. I think with Taiwan, you want

1570
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 2: to knock this guy out of the game, like just go,

1571
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 2: just go attack, attack, attack.

1572
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 4: But again, like I think sometimes and he knows how

1573
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 4: to play into that attack attack attack, the teams do

1574
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 4: against him because he throws that annoying ass color that's

1575
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:25,959
Speaker 4: just eating edges.

1576
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 3: Like he will just stay if he's right.

1577
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 2: So and play all the rights against them.

1578
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe do that, but then he still has to

1579
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 3: sweep it.

1580
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 4: Like maybe the thing to get with Taiwan is that

1581
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 4: you kind of have to feel out who he is.

1582
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 4: Like we remember watching Taiwan and sometimes he get in

1583
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 4: the mound. You'd be like, nice, this guy's so on

1584
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 4: right now the first pitch, he's got fucking nothing. Becau's

1585
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 4: all about. He's just he has to be so precise

1586
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 4: with his command, but he's going to just make it

1587
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 4: so annoying with that color against the left. He's like

1588
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 4: you're gonna be like, oh my god, Like so many

1589
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 4: pitches you feel like are hit theable, but you can't

1590
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:54,919
Speaker 4: make a decision. Then he'll break a sinker off atwo

1591
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 4: and it'll go the other way. It'll be like, damn

1592
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 4: this he's just he's annoying guy. It's like credit to

1593
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 4: him because people really shitting on him. That big contract

1594
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 4: designed in the fact that he has been a reliable pitcher.

1595
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 4: He's kind of done exactly the Klay Holmes. He's got

1596
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 4: three four and one three whip in the hundred innings,

1597
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 4: which is funny.

1598
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 3: But he's that's gonna be. That's that's gonna be probably

1599
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 3: a swing game of this series. At least I hope

1600
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 3: it will be.

1601
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 2: I almost said something about the Phillies that I didn't.

1602
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 2: I'll tell you this well, Kyle Shwarber quick conversation, five

1603
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 2: hundred home runs. He's a Hall of Famer.

1604
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 3: Right, one hundred million percent because he's really close. I know,

1605
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 3: he's really close.

1606
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 4: And a lot of people are shitting on kylesh wwarberd

1607
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 4: for the no war for the Hall of Fame, which

1608
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:30,959
Speaker 4: I you know, I understand that to a degree. David

1609
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 4: Artiz was the first battle Hall of Fame with fifty

1610
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 4: career war Yeah, and again like Kyeg Warpers, I don't

1611
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 4: think you're gonna get close to fifty war even though

1612
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 4: won't go sniff it no, but he's still like, I,

1613
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 4: I don't know you're gonna keep some of five with

1614
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 4: home runs out of the Hall of Fame. This is

1615
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 4: where I think, like war like, we should have a

1616
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 4: little more context than just blanket numbers for war because

1617
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 4: five hundred home runs is the most valuable thing you

1618
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,919
Speaker 4: could ever do in a single moment in any baseball game. Ever,

1619
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 4: the most valuable thing a player could ever do is

1620
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 4: hit a home run. A pitcher throws one strike, that's

1621
00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 4: one strike.

1622
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 2: A hitter hits one home run on the same pitch

1623
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 2: that was thrown by that picture, it's one run guaranteed,

1624
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 2: no matter what. Like it's the conversation on Twitter because

1625
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 2: I put it out there about that. When he gets

1626
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 2: to five hundred, he is a no doubt Hall of

1627
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 2: Famer in my books, people like, you're crazy. I'm like,

1628
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 2: have you watched baseball? I had someone trying to complain.

1629
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 2: They're like, klesh Warber is a one sided player, one

1630
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 2: tool player. So we're gonna put Wampierre in the home

1631
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 2: in the Hall of fame because he stole basis. I'm like,

1632
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 2: are we comparing stolen bases to hitting home runs? Are

1633
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 2: we fucking that stupid? That's that was the dumbest comment

1634
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 2: I ever saw. I had to bring it up.

1635
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 4: I think if someone averaged like one hundred and sixty

1636
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:33,919
Speaker 4: stolen basis year, they could be All of Famer. Yeah,

1637
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 4: of course, right, yeah, But I don't know. I think

1638
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 4: Schwarbish just again, there is a long way to go. Like,

1639
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 4: I know that right now Schwarbur, when he's turning thirty three,

1640
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 4: he's having the best season of his career. He might

1641
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 4: actually win the National League MVP, Like we're trending towards

1642
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 4: that right now.

1643
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 2: In the sports. But you can't. You can't. He can't

1644
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 2: look at John's I know. But there's if you're betting

1645
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 2: Kles Shwarber win the MVP right now, you're an idiot.

1646
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 2: Shoeo Tani has better offensive numbers and pitches. He pitches.

1647
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 3: He's pitched a little bit this year.

1648
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 2: It's not he's still He's thrown fifty innings. Actually that's

1649
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 2: more innings than kylleg Schwarbers throw his entire career. In

1650
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 2: true good point, really good point there but the fact

1651
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 2: that they they get the m VP sometimes is a

1652
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 2: little stupid. If Kylie Schwarber wins over Otani, this the

1653
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 2: m v P no longer matters anymore. It's officially a

1654
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 2: bullshit award. So now you're all in on the war

1655
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 2: for for No, I'm all in on shoe Haytani is

1656
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 2: a better hitter, and he also pitches. He's he is

1657
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 2: just a better hitter too.

1658
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 3: I I, oh, definitely, But I still think.

1659
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 4: I mean, I judges stats are going to be better

1660
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 4: than cal Raley at the end of the year.

1661
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:34,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, who do you think judging the MVP of a rally.

1662
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 2: I think that it's gonna be close.

1663
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 4: I don't seven to be close to okay, but I

1664
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 4: just if the Pats win the division, you're gonna give

1665
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 4: show Hane MVP.

1666
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 3: Yes, let's I'll see get it.

1667
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 2: He gets mine.

1668
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 4: Okay, I probably vote for him as well. But I

1669
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 4: can see the writers being like, let's get you know,

1670
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 4: let's give Swarb's one. That's exactly that we shouldn't have

1671
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 4: writers make these ways.

1672
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's totally true.

1673
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 4: But yeah, like there the question about Shwarbur is more

1674
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 4: of if he gets the five hundred home runs if

1675
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 4: he's all f Yes, I think that if someone does that,

1676
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 4: he will, but like I don't know how, Like this

1677
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 4: guy has just found like all the bats speed in

1678
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 4: the world and made the best even though he's always

1679
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 4: made really good swing decisions, like the best ones of

1680
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 4: his career.

1681
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 2: Probably even again turning thirty three, probably just had the

1682
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 2: bat speed forever. We didn't have the numbers.

1683
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 3: Hey probably think it's even better than last year though,

1684
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 3: Oh no, it'sad now.

1685
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 2: He just always had good bat speed, yeah, because like

1686
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 2: I remember watching him with the Cubs in that NLCS

1687
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 2: when we played them in twenty fifteen, because he torched us.

1688
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 2: He was the only guy in the Cubs that did anything.

1689
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 2: Schwarber and like watch him, like, oh, this guy's gonna

1690
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 2: hit like forty home runs forever. Like he's just he's

1691
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:30,439
Speaker 2: got a softball swing.

1692
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 4: He's gonna get like fifty fifty five home runs a season.

1693
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:35,000
Speaker 4: But him kind of leading into the topest Phillies over there.

1694
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 4: Phillies are hort r fields are really good team. The

1695
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 4: Phillies are one of the most complete teams in baseball.

1696
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 4: Like Turner's been hot, Sharper has been on fire. Schwarba

1697
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:43,919
Speaker 4: is awesome, Like Remuto has had a good second half.

1698
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 2: I'll save it. I'm just remember what James said. I'm

1699
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 2: gonna talk about it at the end of the series.

1700
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 3: Okay, sure, but I mean I didn't say, okay, whatever.

1701
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 3: It's a shame that Zach Wheeler is out. Not a

1702
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 3: shame for the Mets, but the shame for baseball. Bom

1703
01:01:57,920 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 3: is back.

1704
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 4: We know Mark feels about him because I'm not gonna

1705
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 4: say anything, Harrison Bather, Bryce Is, I'm not gonna say

1706
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 4: a word.

1707
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 2: It's this is a This is an incredibly solid baseball team. Yeah,

1708
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 2: good baseball team. No, I really, I totally agree. They're

1709
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 2: a very good baseball team.

1710
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 4: But they finally did something that we've been calling for

1711
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 4: them to do forever, which is get rid of Garrett

1712
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 4: Stubbs because he sucks. And Rafael Marshaun's like actually a

1713
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 4: good backup catcher who's like, actually can play a little bit.

1714
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 2: That's the Phillies. I got nothing else to say. They're

1715
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 2: just good and we're so far back where it's I

1716
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 2: can't really even think about that right now.

1717
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 4: No, division's lear not even a conversation, and like, if

1718
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 4: we get to John Durant save Chance, like he's kind

1719
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 4: of torment into us, even weed to see him on

1720
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 4: the Twins, like the guy's disgusting.

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Speaker 2: Is his walk out better than Edwin Diaz is? Right now?

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Speaker 4: I think right now this, Yeah, I've been playing better.

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01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 4: I don't think objectively. Is no I want objectively? Yeah,

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01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 4: I mean Homer take, I'll always take Edwin, all right,

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01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:45,919
Speaker 4: give me some truth, serum, I might say to Ran.

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01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 2: I think that the trumpets just getting a little tired.

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01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 3: I think so.

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01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 4: There's been a long time, now, very long time, the

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01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 4: exact same routine, exact for four years.

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Speaker 3: Three years.

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Speaker 2: This is the last question before we wrap it up.

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Speaker 2: Here do we see Does Ryan Helsley come out to

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01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 2: Hell's bells with all the nonsense? Yeah?

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01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 3: I hope not.

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01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 4: I really hope for his sake, they just stopped doing that.

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01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 4: Here's another big thing about the series. We're gon Jose

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01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 4: alf Rodlick just got actively from a suspension.

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01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 2: They're at the rat Funck's back. Maybe that's brawl. I

1739
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 2: want a brawl so bad.

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01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 3: Maybe that could be the brawl. Brawl the Phillies, look, peppers,

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01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:22,600
Speaker 3: I'm checking forgot them.

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01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 2: I think we do.

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01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 3: Thank you all you guys who made bols.

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01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:26,920
Speaker 4: We're retween some bowls from the Messed Up to the

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01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 4: Messed Up podcast.

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01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 3: That was really cool to say.

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01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 2: Just nice that, you know, the community came together and we.

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Speaker 4: We want to see it worked. And then we do

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01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 4: have Frankiy Peppers beautiful. Here comes the man, the myth,

1750
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:41,480
Speaker 4: the legend, mister Francis Peppers.

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Speaker 6: Getle man, this is Frankie Peppers. He knowing. It seems

1752
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 6: that I had cool people make some bowling yeas, and

1753
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 6: it seems that when two people make bowling niers, the

1754
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 6: Mets win two games in a series. So if we

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01:03:56,640 --> 01:04:01,440
Speaker 6: get some more people making more bowling yeas, one bowl

1756
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 6: and yeas equals one win. So I don't know how

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01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 6: many games we got left. I'm gonna say, like, how

1758
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 6: about I see forty ball and yeass for the rest

1759
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:14,480
Speaker 6: of the year. That'll get us where we meet. Tough

1760
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 6: loss to end the series. I'm not too heartbroken by it.

1761
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 6: It's wish we could have swept, but it happens. Teams

1762
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 6: lose four to three games all the time. I'm encouraged

1763
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 6: from what I'm seeing from the end those Pete does

1764
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:30,480
Speaker 6: look lost. I think he's gonna come around as the

1765
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 6: season starts to end, and I don't have much more

1766
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 6: to say about that. I'm happy to see the Mets

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01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 6: score some runs on Friday and Saturday nights. I'll be

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01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 6: at City Field on Saturday and I'm seeing this seen

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01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:47,520
Speaker 6: this band on Wednesday. System is Down, the System of

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01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 6: a Down, I think, so I'm excited for that. I'll

1771
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:52,920
Speaker 6: post some pictures for you boys if you like the

1772
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 6: heavy metal music. Anyway, boys, I'll talk to you soon.

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01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 2: Let's go Mets James, can you name one System of

1774
01:04:57,760 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 2: a Down song?

1775
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 3: Absolutely, They're awesome.

1776
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 2: I can't believe suey toxicity. I would every able name

1777
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 2: those songs as b yo b oh.

1778
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 3: B y o b Yeah, that's not my it's not

1779
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 3: my game.

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01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 2: System of Downs bangers.

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01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:14,440
Speaker 4: Also, if you guys need the bolon as recipe, it's

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01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 4: pinned on the series recap video from last week.

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01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 2: It's nationals, simple, easy, guys. Thank you so much for

1784
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 2: listening watching this episode of the Mets up Podcast. Make

1785
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 2: sure you're following us on all our social media at

1786
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:26,800
Speaker 2: mets up on Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok. Subscribe to the

1787
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 2: metstup podcast YouTube channel. See the video version of this

1788
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 2: and of course, if you're listening to US Apple Podcasts, Spotify,

1789
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 2: Google drops the rating, drops, review, download, and subscribe. You

1790
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 2: can follow James on his socials at James Shadow. I'm

1791
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:38,919
Speaker 2: draftneck Mark with the CEE. Thank you guys for listening,

1792
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 2: Thank you for watching. We'll catch you all on the

1793
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:40,960
Speaker 2: next episode.

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01:05:41,040 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 1: Peas out guys, let's go Mets. And then I love

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01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 1: my son, Love