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Speaker 1: This episode is presented to you by DraftKings. The crown

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Speaker 1: is yours. All we all do is get hot.

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Speaker 2: At the right time, we knew he was gonna win

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Speaker 2: the national championship.

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Speaker 3: I'm playing with guys that work for Fortune five hundred

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Speaker 3: companies against NBA players.

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Speaker 4: These guys are still some of my closest friends today,

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Speaker 4: and I love those guys so much, and I love

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Speaker 4: what we had so much that we ended up going back.

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Speaker 5: To school another year. You win, you're able to do.

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Speaker 1: Something that's bigger than you.

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Speaker 6: Besides Syracuse, who else was going to running to get you?

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Speaker 5: In college?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I committed to like five schools.

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Speaker 5: Trying to figure it out.

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Speaker 7: I committed because I was just happy.

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Speaker 6: Like what, I'm walking around school with the book bag

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Speaker 6: full of letters in my bag every day it's a

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Speaker 6: new school.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm coming. But I committed.

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Speaker 2: I committed early to Serracuse my junior year on my birthday.

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Speaker 2: That was like my birthday president to me. And I

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Speaker 2: was still at Tuson. So when I get the old kill,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, you get millions or left. This is what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying. When you walking, you walk in the gym.

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Speaker 2: Every college coach in Americas in there, so they looking

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Speaker 2: at me like, yo, why you signed with while you

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Speaker 2: committed Syracuse And they're like, you know you only committed.

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Speaker 1: You know you did a verl you don't have to go.

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Speaker 8: You don't have to go.

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Speaker 2: So I'm saying that, and were playing and NBA scounselors

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Speaker 2: in there. Every practice. The practice was like games. It

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Speaker 6: So at that point I'm like, oh, let me just

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Speaker 6: let me just try it. I'm gonna open it back up.

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Speaker 6: And then like I committed to like I went like Georgia,

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Speaker 6: Georgia Tech.

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Speaker 2: Jerry Jack and Chris Bosh was going down Junia Tech,

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Speaker 2: so you know that that was one of the schools.

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Speaker 2: Jay Wright was just at just got the job at Villanova.

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Speaker 2: So I wanted to go to Villanova, but they already

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Speaker 2: had people. Carolina already had people in my in my

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Speaker 2: spot forgot who was there. Jawa Williamson was dead at

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Speaker 2: that position.

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Speaker 1: Your senior year of high school was two.

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Speaker 2: My senior was, oh two, right, So then Serrah Chuse

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Speaker 2: was like they had Preston Shumper three and he was leaving.

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Speaker 2: So I was like, oh, I can come right in

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Speaker 2: with So what was that experience?

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Speaker 1: Like, I mean, you guys caught magic in the bottle?

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Speaker 1: Uhu keen Warwick with a Jerry McNamara. You guys made

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Speaker 1: that run and uh, you know, you're one year in college,

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Speaker 1: you win the championship.

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Speaker 6: I ain't never think I would do that shit. I'm

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Speaker 6: gonna be honest, Like we wasn't. We was a good team,

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Speaker 6: but I ain't never think we was going to be

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Speaker 6: that good, you know, like you know we to go

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Speaker 6: seventeen and oh at home, we never I never lost

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Speaker 6: any carrier doing People don't talk about that enough. It's

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Speaker 6: hard to do, you know what I'm saying. So especially

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Speaker 6: the Big East, right and the biggest This was the

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Speaker 6: Big East was the biggest right point in time. This

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Speaker 6: was the Big East, you know, the heart of it.

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Speaker 6: So being at Serrah Choose and just that whole experience, Man,

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Speaker 6: we just clicked. Like it was just something that that clicked.

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Speaker 6: We wasn't doing nothing special. We clicked.

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Speaker 2: And then once we started feeling more confident about ourselves.

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Speaker 6: Like we can beat this team, or we can beat them.

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Speaker 6: Oh should we just beat misjority? It was number five.

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Speaker 6: We just beat Georgia Tech. It was number seven.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, were.

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Speaker 2: Going into the tournament and I'm like, look, all we

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Speaker 2: all to do is get hot at the right time.

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Speaker 1: So that's it.

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Speaker 6: And at that point it was like we we knew

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Speaker 6: we at that point, we knew we.

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Speaker 1: Was gonna win the national championship. What was your what

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Speaker 1: was your mental I mean, obviously the NBA is the goal,

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Speaker 1: but College of Pitstops? Did you ever think about jumping

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Speaker 1: stats the league? When you dig into college? Was it

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Speaker 1: one and done? Like what was your mindset there?

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Speaker 2: I could have came out of high school. But again,

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Speaker 2: like people don't understand, like NBA never was my goal,

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Speaker 2: Like it never was. I just felt like we can

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Speaker 2: never I can.

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Speaker 1: Never reach that.

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Speaker 6: And you hear so much, Oh you hear the stats.

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Speaker 8: Oh one out of every thousand.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, he chance to get struck

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Speaker 2: by like this. There's no chance in hell I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: make the league. So I ain't even thinking about the league.

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Speaker 2: Let me just get to college. So when I got

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Speaker 2: to college, I'm on campus, I'm like, I never want

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Speaker 6: Like Sarah, she's big East. It's popping up here like

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Speaker 6: I'm staying. And if you go back to the footage,

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Speaker 6: even like my press conferences, I'm like, yo, like, forget

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Speaker 6: one more year, like I.

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Speaker 1: Thought you stay in school for four years, like I'm

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Speaker 1: coming back.

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Speaker 6: And bay Hou was like, man, if you don't get

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Speaker 6: your shit off my campus, man, we ain't trying to

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Speaker 6: hear that. So he really kicked me off the campus man, rightfully,

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Speaker 6: So right there, So right it makes sense. Winning has

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Speaker 6: always been a part of your DNA, only winning high school, champion, college,

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Speaker 6: McDonald's All America, and Michigan State. So this is the

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Speaker 6: question I got, asked, how many bags were thrown at

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Speaker 5: A lot of people offered me money.

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Speaker 9: I knew, I knew, Oh they were big bags.

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Speaker 5: And uh, you know what, my.

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Speaker 9: Father he always gave me life lessons. So here I am.

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Speaker 9: He said, we're not taking no money. I said, okay, cool.

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Speaker 9: So I decided to stay close to home because my

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Speaker 9: never missed none of my games, and I wanted that

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Speaker 9: to continue. And I'm a mama's boy, so I loved

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Speaker 9: my mother, so I wasn't giving up her Fried chicken

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Speaker 9: and none of the other stuff she.

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Speaker 7: Brought to the table, them hugs and everything.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 9: So my freshman year, we win the Big Ten, go

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Speaker 9: all the way to the final eight, Kentucky beat US.

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Speaker 9: Kansas City had the number one pick, so they called

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Speaker 9: me and said, hey, we want to draft you number

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Speaker 9: one Kings. Yeah, they were Kansas City Kings at that time.

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Speaker 9: So I flew down and met with a dude named

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Speaker 9: Joel Akason, the general manager, and he said, hey, I'm

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Speaker 9: gonna want to give you a six year deal, two

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Speaker 9: hundred thousand a year. So you know, I got excited.

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Speaker 9: I've been broke my whole life. I'm like, oh man,

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Speaker 9: this is great.

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Speaker 5: And so.

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Speaker 9: I got I jumped up, said oh I think that's good.

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Speaker 9: My father grabbed me and he pulled me drug me

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Speaker 9: outside the door. He said, hold on, we'll be right back.

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Speaker 9: He said, you've been broke for eighteen years. You can

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Speaker 9: be broke one more year. I said, yes, sir, So

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Speaker 9: you're going back to school. So I went back to school,

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Speaker 9: and I'm glad I did because I finished what I

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Speaker 9: came to college for, which was to win the national

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Speaker 9: championship and play against Larry Bird and the unbelievable final,

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Speaker 9: the most.

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Speaker 5: Watched college championship ever.

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Speaker 9: That's right to this day, still the most watched. And

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Speaker 9: so to be link with this dude, who you know?

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Speaker 5: You saying?

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Speaker 10: Man?

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Speaker 5: First?

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Speaker 9: When I first met him, I said, I must see

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Speaker 9: this dude, This white cat can really.

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Speaker 1: Go like is always out on white boys. It's always out.

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Speaker 5: It's respect. This ain't nothing bad.

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Speaker 11: So I said, let me see what he can do.

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Speaker 6: But Larry had something that most white boys don't have.

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Speaker 8: That man different now, a little.

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Speaker 12: Different, very different.

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Speaker 5: Now that boy he could play man. He turned it out.

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Speaker 9: We played on a team in college, uh, in a

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Speaker 9: tournament together. This is the first time I ever sat

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Speaker 9: on the bench. Him and I were on the bench

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Speaker 9: and we were like, the guys in front of us

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Speaker 9: wasn't better than enough. But Kentucky head coach was coaching

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Speaker 9: the team, so he started three guys from Kentucky. But

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Speaker 9: when we got in the game, we turned it out.

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Speaker 9: But I saw this dude eat Jack givings up. He

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Speaker 9: was player of the year that year Kentucky, right, yes,

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Speaker 9: from Kentucky, and Larry Bird was just slicing them, dicing them.

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Speaker 5: And I said, I called home.

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Speaker 9: I said, It's true about this.

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Speaker 5: This dude can play. So that was my first.

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Speaker 9: Time seeing them, and then to be out on the

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Speaker 9: court with him in college for that national championship game,

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Speaker 9: and then of course what happened in the NBA.

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Speaker 5: But I would say that we got a.

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Speaker 9: Chance to change the league. You know what, what a

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Speaker 9: blessing it was. He ended up in Boston and then

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Speaker 9: I ended up out here. My personality was La Hollywood,

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Speaker 9: His personality was Boston, and it worked for the whole league,

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Speaker 9: you know, so everything was good.

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Speaker 1: Coming from a mid major. Did you ever think that

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Speaker 1: Steph Curry would change the face of basketball the way

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Speaker 1: it's place?

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Speaker 8: What do you think? Did you ever dream?

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Speaker 5: You know what I mean? He dreamed of it.

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Speaker 13: We all dreamed of playing in the league and doing

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Speaker 8: But I never dreamed of changing the game. That's what

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Speaker 13: I said playing in the league. I dreamed of playing

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Speaker 13: in the league. Yeah, playing the way that I know

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Speaker 13: how to play the game. When I was at Davison, Man,

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Speaker 13: I was six to one, one hundred and sixty pounds

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Speaker 13: when I got there, and I found a coach that

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Speaker 13: just go out and hoop and learn how to learn

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Speaker 13: through my mistakes. I had thirteen turnovers my first game

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Speaker 13: at Davison, and he didn't say nothing. He said, just

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Speaker 13: keep hoping next play, mentality and all that type of stuff.

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Speaker 13: So I took that confidence through my college career into

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Speaker 13: the league. And though I was still scrawning, when I

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Speaker 13: showed up backing on nine playing nelly ball, like I

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Speaker 13: knew what I was capable of and just put the

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Speaker 13: work in. I think four years later when it started

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Speaker 13: hitting on the threes and like pushing the record book

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Speaker 13: and that in that respect, and like you know, changing

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Speaker 13: my range and uh and just seeing the quarter a

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Speaker 13: little different, that's when I knew this could be how

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Speaker 13: I can summit myself in the league. And uh, nobody

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Speaker 13: was really like using it as a weapon like the.

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Speaker 14: Way that I thought I could.

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Speaker 13: And it's a confidence thing, though, like you put the

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Speaker 13: work in, but it's a confidence thing. And uh, now

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Speaker 13: you got little kids in high school, middle school and

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Speaker 1: It was crazy because I mean we had a tournament

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Speaker 1: this past weekend and you know, my boys they've been around,

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Speaker 1: Like we get out there early in Isaiah shooting from

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Speaker 1: behind it point like before he ribbels or anything like, bro,

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Speaker 4: You know, we were able to obviously, you know, my

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Speaker 4: Because you know, you can't. Chemistry is just something you can't.

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Speaker 4: You know, you can there was real sacrifice in it,

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Speaker 18: Of you know who, like who you going to spend

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Speaker 3: in mid rajior programs, they knew I had NBA qual talent,

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Speaker 3: but they weren't sure if it translated, and they weren't

445
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Speaker 3: sure if I could sustain a high level play against

446
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Speaker 3: high level athletes.

447
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,359
Speaker 18: And I was like, this is my perfect chance. I'm

448
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Speaker 18: playing against Duke.

449
00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,960
Speaker 3: They got Austin Rivers, they got Mason Plumbley, they got

450
00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:17,160
Speaker 3: Miles Plumbly, they got three other NBA they had Quinn Cook,

451
00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,280
Speaker 3: they had like six seven NBA players, And I was like,

452
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,400
Speaker 3: I was like, this is my chance to show who

453
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Speaker 3: I am and the show I can elevate my team,

454
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Speaker 3: like I'm playing with. I always joke I said that

455
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Speaker 3: my friends, my friends work on Wall Street, and I'm

456
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Speaker 3: playing with like guys that work for Fortune five hundred

457
00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,960
Speaker 3: companies against NBA players, Like the guys I played with

458
00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,879
Speaker 3: are the accountants for the for the Duke players in

459
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,960
Speaker 3: three years from now. So if I can uplift them

460
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Speaker 3: and play against them, this was solidify who I am.

461
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Speaker 3: So I actually told my mom that we're gonna beat

462
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Speaker 3: Duke and beat and beat whoever playing the second round.

463
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Speaker 3: I said, we'll probably lose to Baylor because Baylor got

464
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Speaker 3: Pierre Jackson. They had all this Quincy Quincy Millity, had

465
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Speaker 3: all these like super super athletes, and I like, I

466
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Speaker 3: don't know, like we ain't really athletic around here at

467
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Speaker 3: a Patrio Legue school. So I went out there and

468
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 3: in warm ups they was talking crazy, like you know

469
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Speaker 3: how you go to half court and they just talking

470
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,640
Speaker 3: out of pocket, like just saying ridiculous, reckless stuff, trying

471
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Speaker 3: to like punk us in warm ups, and I'm like,

472
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Speaker 3: man like, like y'all, y'all ain't even built like that,

473
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Speaker 3: Like like, first of all, Duke players don't even really

474
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Speaker 3: be nice like that when they get to the league.

475
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Speaker 1: Ain't know gangs is going to Duke, right.

476
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Speaker 18: So they was talking crazy at wordmups.

477
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Speaker 3: But then like once the game started, like I let

478
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Speaker 3: him know, I was here talking to the bench. I'm

479
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Speaker 3: talking to coach k after shots like I'm letting them

480
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Speaker 3: know I'm here, like I don't know WHI ch'all been

481
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,880
Speaker 3: doing in the ACC but ain't none of these Ain't

482
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Speaker 3: none of these like me, you know what I'm saying,

483
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Speaker 3: And we.

484
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Speaker 5: Ended up going to win.

485
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Speaker 3: I think that was like the signature game for me

486
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Speaker 3: to kind of solidify that, like I can play in

487
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Speaker 3: the league and I can hold my own, I can

488
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:53,400
Speaker 3: be a league guard, I can play off the ball,

489
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:54,680
Speaker 3: like I can give you whatever you want.

490
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Speaker 1: So after doing what you did to Duke, how did

491
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Speaker 1: that kind of catapult you into the national eye and

492
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Speaker 1: it start kind of getting the respect you always felt

493
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Speaker 1: you deserved.

494
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Speaker 3: I think it put me in that like mid major

495
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 3: startum role to where you know, you had the Steph Curry's,

496
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 3: you had the Jimmer for Dats, you had the George

497
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 3: Hill situation. You had a lot of Eric Mayner, a

498
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,399
Speaker 3: lot of players who were in similar situations, you know,

499
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Speaker 3: where they are able to beat a higher ranked team,

500
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:24,679
Speaker 3: a higher seed in the NCAA tournament. You had the

501
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 3: Steve Nasz situation when he was a fifteen to beating

502
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 3: the two seeds kind of put me in that same

503
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,639
Speaker 3: light to where it was like, you know, he has

504
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 3: NBA potential X y Z, these types of players have

505
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 3: done this this, These are what his numbers are like

506
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,399
Speaker 3: compared to them. And then it kind of set me

507
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Speaker 3: up to where I was the next season. I'm a

508
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:41,640
Speaker 3: preseason All American.

509
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Speaker 18: I had.

510
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Speaker 3: I entered the draft that year and had basically heard

511
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Speaker 3: that I would be a late first round pick.

512
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Speaker 18: And I had to decide if I wanted to leave

513
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Speaker 18: or go back to school.

514
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Speaker 3: And I was like, I'm going back, Like I always

515
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 3: wanted to be the man, this is my chance to

516
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Speaker 3: beat a man.

517
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Speaker 18: Go to a small school.

518
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Speaker 3: I wanted to. You know, some people don't want too

519
00:23:58,240 --> 00:23:59,439
Speaker 3: much film on him. I was like, they can get

520
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Speaker 3: as much film.

521
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Speaker 18: They want on me. Like I believe in my game.

522
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 3: I know that I can get back to where I

523
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 3: was at and take my team even further. And I

524
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,399
Speaker 3: firmly believe if I didn't fracture my foot, like we

525
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 3: was going to like the lead eight. Like we had

526
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 3: a bunch of seniors. We were a good team. We

527
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,360
Speaker 3: were about to be ranked in the country. We had

528
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 3: a pretty good schedule. He was playing VCU, we were

529
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Speaker 3: playing high major teams, well, the high major teams that

530
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Speaker 3: would play us most of them was afraid.

531
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Speaker 18: I Also the backstory funny part.

532
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Speaker 3: Is so as I went to a small school like

533
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 3: Lee High, and I wanted to play every school that

534
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,120
Speaker 3: didn't offer me. So I wanted to play Penn State,

535
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Speaker 3: I wanted to play Ohio State. I wanted to play

536
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 3: the Dukes in North Carolina's but every school in Ohio

537
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 3: I didn't recruit me. I really wanted to play them.

538
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Speaker 3: And then I got cut from the USA team. Matt

539
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 3: Painter was the head coach, was at Purdue Behein was

540
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,719
Speaker 3: on the staff and two other coaches. So I went

541
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Speaker 3: back home and I told our coaching staff I wanted

542
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Speaker 3: to play Purdue, I wanted to play Syracuse. I want

543
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Speaker 3: to play all those schools, and they said that will

544
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Speaker 3: play you when c J leaves.

545
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Speaker 5: Yeah.

546
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Speaker 18: Thanks. So that's that's kind of how it went.

547
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Speaker 3: After that Dude game, I was I was just locked in,

548
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,199
Speaker 3: like determined to get to the next level. And I

549
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 3: got to go to CP three, I got to go

550
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 3: to Bronz Skills Academy. I got to go to all

551
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 3: those things and really expose myself to like what it's

552
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 3: like to play at the next level.

553
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Speaker 1: Do a sport athlete? Quarterback what was your style like

554
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 1: you would throw a runner?

555
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 8: Both? Yeah, both, Yeah.

556
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Speaker 5: I could throw it.

557
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Speaker 6: Yeah.

558
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Speaker 19: You know, back then we were in a lot of

559
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Speaker 19: options too, but I could throw it. You know, it

560
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 19: wasn't a typical just run all the time an athlete.

561
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Speaker 8: I could throw it.

562
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Speaker 1: It's something about football though, because I played football too,

563
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Speaker 1: and I was yeah.

564
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Speaker 20: Yeah, But to think about when you go through your

565
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Speaker 20: couple of touchdowns, go to the.

566
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Speaker 1: Stadium, you see eighty five thousand or one hundred thousand.

567
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Speaker 1: I mean, I love basketball. I'm glad I chose basketball,

568
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 1: but there's nothing that I get chills thinking about just

569
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Speaker 1: them being in them stadiums and you almost committed to

570
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Speaker 1: actually play high major college football.

571
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Speaker 19: Yeah, that's my only regretting life that I never got

572
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Speaker 19: a chance to play football at one year.

573
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Speaker 8: Yeah, and I and to be.

574
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Speaker 19: Honest, I was gonna My freshman year was so so

575
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 19: it was like ten points of five sis, So.

576
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Speaker 8: It was all right.

577
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Speaker 19: But you know, coming in as a McDonald's, you know,

578
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 19: it's a lot of hype, but people didn't know I

579
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Speaker 19: went through the back issues and all that stuff. So

580
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Speaker 19: me and Coachio met with Nick Saban. He was the

581
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Speaker 19: football coach at Michigan State. At the time, I was

582
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Speaker 19: gonna play football. If I didn't have a great sophomore season,

583
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Speaker 19: I was gonna play football that next year. But what

584
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 19: happened was I was a big team player of the year,

585
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Speaker 19: I was All American and it just took off.

586
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Speaker 1: The exact same thing. You see, after my sophomore year.

587
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Speaker 1: My sophomore year, I went out there, Bob Toledo cameing

588
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 1: down that team. I went out there and did springball,

589
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 1: ran routes for the first time in last year.

590
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Speaker 8: Was dope.

591
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Speaker 1: And then they started talking all this change of dorms,

592
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: not captain, won't start on the basketball. I'm just like, God, damn,

593
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: just because I want to play a little football. So

594
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: but that was one thing too. I mean, to this day,

595
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: I'm just like, what if I would have just gave

596
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: it for a year and saw what it would have happened. So, yeah,

597
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 1: it was, it would have been dope. Draymond told us

598
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 1: a great story about being recruited by Izzo. Just a

599
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: straight shooter. Uh, what was your recruitment process like with

600
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,679
Speaker 1: Michigan State. Who were some of the other schools you

601
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:25,679
Speaker 1: were considering going to?

602
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Speaker 5: Oh Man?

603
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Speaker 8: Back then?

604
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Speaker 19: I was my top schools was like Syracuse, Cincinnati, you

605
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 19: had Huggins.

606
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Speaker 8: He recruited dogs, you.

607
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 10: Know what I mean. He went after all the dogs.

608
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Speaker 19: Back then, Georgia Tech, they was pumping out point guards.

609
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 19: You know, you look at the history of Georgia Tech

610
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 19: point guards. It had you go back from Mark Price

611
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 19: to uh AA, Travis Best and Steph k and I

612
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 19: would have been like right behind him.

613
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Speaker 8: Who else was it?

614
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Speaker 10: Uh?

615
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Speaker 19: Michigan Uh Louisville, Florida State was another big one, and

616
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 19: that was mainly football. Yeah, back then they had a run.

617
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Speaker 8: They was on national.

618
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 19: TV every week, Yeah, every week, And so I was

619
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 19: looking at them. But being recruited by isoe what separated him?

620
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Speaker 21: Man?

621
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:13,880
Speaker 8: He was in front every day.

622
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Speaker 19: When I say every day, Man, he recruited me higher

623
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,360
Speaker 19: because back then they ain't had nothing, you know, So

624
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 19: Draymond recruiting was a little different. You know, he could

625
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 19: be a straight shooter with him with me, he was

626
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 19: damn they're big. And to be honest, you know, because

627
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 19: the people don't realize, like I took a chance on

628
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 19: Michigan State. Michigan State wasn't the prominent program that is

629
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 19: they it wasn't They ain't had like no top players there.

630
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 19: Michigan had six or seven McDonald's, all American on the rockster.

631
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Speaker 19: Michigan State didn't like Coachinzo didn't make the tournament before

632
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 19: I got there. He was in this second year when

633
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 19: I committed. So Michigan State wasn't what it was.

634
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: And what was it like building that team out though,

635
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: with Charlie and Mo And this is back when you

636
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 1: were to college for you know, at least three years

637
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 1: sometimes four. Yeah, what was it like kind of just

638
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 1: going along that path because I say all the time

639
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: like that some of the best funniest times of my life.

640
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Speaker 10: Bro.

641
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 19: Yeah, this star, no doubt about it. I would never

642
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 19: change it for the world.

643
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 10: You know.

644
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 19: Antonio Smith, he was people forget about him. He was

645
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 19: the first one to go, Tom Big Tom. We played

646
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 19: together at Michigan State. He went and then Mopete went.

647
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 19: I came in and Charlie came And the reason I

648
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 19: loved them my brothers, you know what I'm saying. And

649
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 19: it was special on how we did it because we

650
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 19: got it from the mother, like we wouldn't knowing that

651
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 19: Michigan State wasn't shit.

652
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 5: You know what I mean.

653
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 19: And we came in there and grinded coach starting with coaching,

654
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 19: so he was a grinder too, But we just came

655
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 19: in grinded, you know what I mean.

656
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 5: That's that's what it was.

657
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Speaker 19: Every day when I got there, I started the first

658
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,959
Speaker 19: thing I said, I got to change the mentality.

659
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Speaker 22: You know what I mean.

660
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 19: I could just tell people was used to losing, and

661
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 19: I wasn't with that, you know what I mean. Like

662
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 19: even like the open gym games, they're played and you lose,

663
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 19: it wasn't no, they didn't nobody care.

664
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Speaker 8: So I'm like, let's start keeping tracked. Let's start keeping.

665
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 19: Tracks of wins and losses, you know what I mean.

666
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 19: So that started making winning important, you know. And then

667
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 19: just to just me saying I beat you every day.

668
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 19: It got real competitive, you know what I mean. And

669
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 19: we started changing it slowly but surely, and and and

670
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 19: then they clicked, you know what I mean, Like we

671
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 19: got something special here. And I told coaches, start going

672
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 19: to recruit some dogs, you know what I mean. And

673
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 19: and and even when we like in the schedule, like

674
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 19: I had a big part of that. People don't know

675
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 19: that tough schedule they have. Me and coaches talked about

676
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 19: that years. I went to him saying, start lighting them up.

677
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 19: Let's clay.

678
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, let's scratch.

679
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, let's scratch.

680
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 19: Because you know, when you play some of them big schools,

681
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 19: some of the other cats deer in the headline.

682
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 5: They're nervous.

683
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 19: So I'm like, go line them up first, get them going,

684
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:41,479
Speaker 19: and now when we play them in the tournament, we're

685
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 19: gonna be ready to roll.

686
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 8: Cats ain't in awe Like when we played Vince.

687
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 19: Garden my sophomore year. Cats there they want the actual

688
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 19: autograph before the gas.

689
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 23: You know what I mean.

690
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 8: They wasn't used to none.

691
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 24: Of that, that crew they had.

692
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, so they was like almost fanboying.

693
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 19: But at the a we started lying them, you know

694
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 19: them tough games up early in the season.

695
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 8: That changed everything.

696
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: I heard some interesting stories about your recruiting process and

697
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: how you committed somewhere and then you decommitted when the

698
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: coach left, and then some shit in Michigan and then

699
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: you got a low key got into it with izz

700
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: Oh and tell me what that ended up, because you

701
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: ended up getting your jersey retired just not too long ago,

702
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: December third of last year. Tell me about the recruiting process,

703
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: and then we'll finally get to what the honor it

704
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: was to have see your jersey hung in the raptors

705
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: of Michigan State.

706
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 24: So the recruiting process for me was different a lot,

707
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 24: a lot like the NBA for me, honestly, where you know,

708
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,959
Speaker 24: I'm coming up in Saginaw and there was there was.

709
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 24: We had a guy who's sixteen named Josh Southern, and

710
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 24: we had a guy named Larry Wright who was Larry's

711
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 24: about six three wing could shoot the fuck out of

712
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 24: it was athletic. And so that was my sophomore year

713
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 24: and like you have all the coaches in the country

714
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 24: coming in to see those guys. Josh end up going

715
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 24: to Boston College, Larry went to Saint John's, and but

716
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 24: you had Tuppy Smith time. It's on like all the

717
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 24: coaches in the country coming through the Alpen gyms and

718
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 24: I'm just young.

719
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: I'm ninth going to tenth grade.

720
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 24: I'm out there, rocket And like my high school coach

721
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 24: would tell me, like, yo, these coaches are coming to

722
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 24: see Josh and Larry and IT'SO even told me this before,

723
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 24: but they'll leave talking about you. But at the time,

724
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 24: I'm six, I'm still six', Five i'm. Undersized planning the

725
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 24: four and SO i would kind of just get LIKE

726
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 24: i started getting offers from, men majors and. People you,

727
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 24: know you see the write ups and stuff, like, oh

728
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 24: he's a mid major player at best.

729
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 5: And all of.

730
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 1: This then my junior, year you.

731
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 24: KNOW i lost some, WEIGHT i got more, athletic AND

732
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 24: i really started. Rocking my junior year end up being

733
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 24: my best year of high school because my senior, year

734
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 24: my ankle was fucked.

735
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 8: UP i was fat as, hell and SO.

736
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 24: I always wanted to go To Michigan statetion AS i

737
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 24: was a. Kid my aunt went. There she was a

738
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 24: number one player in the country and like eighty nine that.

739
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 5: Time she went.

740
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 24: There AND i used to go up as a little,

741
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,479
Speaker 24: kid AND i was scared Of, sparty BUT i always

742
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 24: used to tell my, mama, Like i'm gonna.

743
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 11: GO i.

744
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 24: WAS i was the little badass, kids scared The, spartan

745
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 24: scared Of. CHUCK i was scared of, everything and you,

746
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 24: know SHE'S i used to always tell, Them i'm gonna

747
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 24: go To Michigan.

748
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 8: State you know What i'm.

749
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 5: Saying and.

750
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 24: Then WHEN i got to high, School coachino kinda offered.

751
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 25: Me but.

752
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 24: DIDN'T i, committed Thinking i'm committed but they weren't really honoring.

753
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 24: It so it's LIKE i felt like they was kind

754
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 24: of teeter in that line and like keeping me at

755
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 24: bay but not going too far with.

756
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 5: Me and SO i went.

757
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 24: Down To kentucky my junior year and they were Playing

758
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 24: florida and this One Joe kim knowing, them was, There

759
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 24: like that bitchy college game they was.

760
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 5: There they went back to. BACK i think, Yeah and.

761
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 8: So college game day was.

762
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 5: There we walking in Rupp arena and.

763
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 24: Like i'm standing next to my assistant, coach my head

764
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 24: coach in high school and Like we're literally this close

765
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 24: to each other and got to scream at each other

766
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 24: ear to hear. It i'm, Like, yo this shit. Live

767
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 24: so you, know we go. On we watched the game that,

768
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 24: Night florida end up. Winning then we stay. Over we

769
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 24: meet With tubby earlier that day and they offered. Me i'm, like,

770
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 24: yo this is WHERE i want to, Be SO i.

771
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 24: Committed my mom didn't even. Know she didn't she had no,

772
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 24: idea she had never Met tubby at.

773
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 8: Nothing SO i get back. Home we drive back home That.

774
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 24: Sunday After sunday, EVENING i get. Home my mom was

775
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 24: always on the. Blogs just like she on Fucking twitter.

776
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 8: Now and so WHEN i get, home.

777
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 24: Like Maybe, Wednesday, thursday start hitting the blogs Like Draymond

778
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 24: green committed To. Kentucky Now i'm mind. YOU i still

779
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 24: didn't tell my, mom so we so.

780
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 1: Are you thinking about this, Though like, DAMN i need

781
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 1: to tell HER i need this or you're trying to hide.

782
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 24: It i'm trying to hide, it like she never gonna

783
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:58,320
Speaker 24: find out.

784
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 8: Until this time for me to. Go SO i get

785
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 8: home like that.

786
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 24: Thirsdday, yeah and she's standing there like waiting on, me

787
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 24: like you did what, like And i'm, like. Huh she

788
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 24: showed me the computer like you you committed To, kentucky

789
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 24: and she fucking went crazy like how dare you do?

790
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 24: That you never fucking talk to me about? It, this,

791
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 24: that and the, other like lou who's my high school.

792
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,919
Speaker 24: Coach they don't fucking run, You i'm your fucking, mom

793
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 24: all this, stuff And i'm just LIKE. Whoa so for,

794
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 24: me it's like the happiest time of my. Life you

795
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 24: feel me Like i'm committed To, kentucky but she's fucking grilling.

796
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 24: Me so like a weekend and a week and a half,

797
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 24: later she goes she drived down and go to a

798
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 24: game by herself with my. Father they met down, there

799
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 24: went to the, game and she came back and she

800
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 24: was in tears and she was, like, Yo i'm, Like

801
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 24: i'm not happy that you did that without, me.

802
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:53,280
Speaker 5: BUT i, see like why you committed. It it's fucking amazing.

803
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 8: Down, there And i'm happy for.

804
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 24: You and So tom went, on you know What i'm.

805
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 24: Saying then we get To march And tubby called. Me

806
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 24: we in the we in the state. Playoffs we end

807
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 24: up winning. Championship But tubby called me and he, Said,

808
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 24: HEY i wanted to call you and let you know

809
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 24: That i'm gonna be Leaving kentucky tomorrow And i'm Gonna

810
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 24: I'm i'm gonna go coach At, minnesota BUT i wanted

811
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 24: to call you first and let you know that and

812
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 24: not find out on.

813
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,399
Speaker 26: Blogs and So i'm, like, wow that's.

814
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 24: Great you know What i'm. SAYING i appreciate you letting me.

815
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 24: Know stand Up god to up he is and you,

816
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 24: Know i'm gonna reopen my, recruitment But i'll definitely look

817
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 24: at minnesota'll definitely be at the top of that. List

818
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 24: and SO i reopened my recruitment and the first CALL

819
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 24: i get that next, morning seven in the, morning this

820
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 24: coach is, Today, Hey i'm, like what's?

821
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,879
Speaker 5: Up he, like how in the fuck could?

822
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: You?

823
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 5: Like this is?

824
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 24: Me is relationship? Forever like how in the fuck could

825
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 24: you commit To? Kentucky is fucking? Bullshit, this, that and the.

826
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 5: Other And i'm, like, yo, like you didn't fucking offer.

827
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 24: Me so NOW i started back going at him like

828
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 24: you ain't fucking offer. Me you full of, shit y'all

829
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 24: act LIKE i was fucking coming there AND i committed

830
00:36:58,160 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 24: to you and you. Ain't you fucking pulled this stuf

831
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,879
Speaker 24: like fuck, That and he's, like whan the fuck said?

832
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 5: That, well you.

833
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 24: Didn't have a fucking, Offer and Now i'm telling you

834
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 24: know you got a fucking. Offer so we're having a streaming.

835
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:12,760
Speaker 24: Match he's offering me a. Scholarship it's a full streaming.

836
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 24: Match and so you, KNOW i ended up reopening recruitment

837
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 24: and it eventually comes down To, Michigan Michigan state In.

838
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 24: Indiana and this is like the summer after That, march

839
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 24: AND i was prob, like not many people NOTICED i

840
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 24: was gonna go To, michigan and my mom wanted me

841
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 24: to go To michigan because of you, know the education

842
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 24: and all of. That i'm really trying to get to the,

843
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 24: least SO i ain't really tripping about the. Education BUT

844
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 24: i was gonna go To. Michigan it's felt good and

845
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 24: B i hatches got there like. It i'm, like all,

846
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 24: Right i'm gonna go To. Michigan so they called me

847
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 24: and they begged me to come down to open gym

848
00:37:54,239 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 24: on This, now this Is. Thursday i'm committing on the Following.

849
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 24: Thursday they begged.

850
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 1: You was just gonna. COMMIT i had been.

851
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 24: Before It's. Michigan it's an hour, away you know What i'm.

852
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 24: Saying So i've been there a bunch of, times and

853
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 24: they begged me to come one last time on That monday.

854
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,439
Speaker 24: Before so It's thursday, evening they're begging me to. COME

855
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 24: i go That. Monday i'm committing that follow On. Thursday

856
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 24: BUT i don't tell them i'm committing. There they just

857
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 24: know my press conference Is. Thursday and SO i go.

858
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 24: DOWN i plan in the open gym with. Them i'm

859
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 24: busting they Ass i'm talking and like nobody talking back

860
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 24: like that at that. Time Manny fresh was, There pet was.

861
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,399
Speaker 24: THERE pd ain't a big. Talker you know What i'm.

862
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 24: Saying pet From Detroit many not a big. Talker they real,

863
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 24: niggas but they ain't big. Talkers and then like the,

864
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 24: rest Like Kevin grady was school but like there was

865
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 24: a lot of squares on the, team and So i'm

866
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 24: busting their ass and talking shit and like nobody's saying nothing.

867
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 24: Back But i'm going To Michigan state And i'm talking

868
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 24: shit and like trying to try and fight, me like

869
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 24: everybody trying, fight And i'm, like, yeah that's, me you

870
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,439
Speaker 24: know What i'm, Saying like everybody talking, ship we about

871
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 24: to fight in this open.

872
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 5: Jail that's more me.

873
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 24: Than fucking talking to everybody just looking at. Me and

874
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 24: So Michigan state just swe more at home from. Me

875
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 24: BUT i Have michigan left my ass at home and

876
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 24: not fucking caught me.

877
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 5: DOWN i went To.

878
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: Michigan you, guys did you know accomplish so much in

879
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 1: such a short amount of, time you, know with all the,

880
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: accolades big, games, losses like you said the time, out

881
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 1: what is the one thing you take is at that

882
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: moment right? There is that the one when you say

883
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 1: when you look. Back Chris, Webber michigan in The fab.

884
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: Five what's the one thing that you hang your hat

885
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: out and stands out to you that it is just

886
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 1: that that sums up that.

887
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 8: Moment that was a.

888
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 6: Lot, yeah that was a. Lot yeah, STUCK i. KNOW

889
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 6: i don't THINK i could pick. One, yeah that was a.

890
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 6: LOT i don't THINK i could. Pick now you're putting a.

891
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 6: Lot you're putting with a loaded. Question, yes a lot of,

892
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:21,240
Speaker 6: music personal, situation you putting, Music you putting a whole

893
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 6: culture just on y'all backs at that, time you know

894
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 6: WHAT i, Mean, like that was a, lot and.

895
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 1: It was to, me LIKE i, said it was a

896
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 1: Small it was a two year window to be real with,

897
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: you you know WHAT i, mean because he was too

898
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: and done so to effect to have a lifelong effect

899
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: on culture as a whole when it pertains to, basketball

900
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 1: you know WHAT i. Mean to have one of the

901
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 1: greatest young teams in the history of the. Game unfortunately

902
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: fell short two years in a. Row but LIKE i,

903
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: said you guys did so much for the game and for.

904
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: Culture that's WHY i was, wondering is there any one

905
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 1: thing that sticks out or is just that whole?

906
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 8: Moment is what it?

907
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 6: IS i think it's the whole, moment, man because it's

908
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 6: many things you do, Now like their players are look

909
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 6: at rob men with.

910
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: Two tattoos and be, like he ain't got no. Tattoos

911
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 1: but they.

912
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 6: Don't realize at that, day it was like having a

913
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 6: tattoo on your, face.

914
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 5: Right you know WHAT i.

915
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 6: Mean so it was the small things like at that, time,

916
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 6: MAN i felt like the world was, changed and like

917
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 6: even with little things like And Living color was ON.

918
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 6: Tv you know What i'm, Saying little things like. That

919
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 6: SO i definitely want to take the. Credit and we did,

920
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 6: it but it was the energy of everybody at that.

921
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 6: Time black people was coming. Up you wasn't taking it no.

922
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 6: More we saw all these other, expressions all these other,

923
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 6: Things LIKE i remember we won the game and, all

924
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 6: and we jumped on the scores table and then hip

925
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 6: HOP i ran had the whole crowd doing.

926
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 5: It.

927
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 6: Right i'm just doing it BECAUSE i love hip hop

928
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 6: AND i want to feel like a. RAPPER i want

929
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 6: TO i want to know how y'all do. It AND

930
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 6: i remember the criticism they came, after you know WHAT i, Mean,

931
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 6: like WHEN i really think about, it, man, DOG i

932
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 6: was eighteen getting death.

933
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 5: Threats, dog you.

934
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: Know WHAT i, Mean i'm having fun though for people you.

935
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 6: Ain't letting these five black guys what these niggas up

936
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 6: here doing Like i'm talking about like it was, crazy you,

937
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 6: know to the point Where i'm. Worried and NOW i

938
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 6: got my boys from the come and sit by my parents.

939
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 1: Again it's you know WHAT i. Mean but it's a

940
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: different time, though web. Too not to cut you off

941
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 1: because it's common now because social, media any coward has a,

942
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,800
Speaker 1: Voice but back then they had to, like really somehow

943
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: get that. Ship this is the early, nineties SO i

944
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 1: had to be like a handwritten.

945
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 8: Letter, time you know.

946
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: Something there was, more there was more hate behind.

947
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 6: It yeah, yeah and it makes you, too you know

948
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 6: at that. Time now these are all good things because

949
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 6: you can't have courage without. Fear so So i'm not

950
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 6: gonna act like nobody was a scar these. Times BUT

951
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 6: i really have to thank our parents because your question

952
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 6: stack what what got it? Was we were built for.

953
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 6: IT i, Hell i'm gonna cry about. This my father

954
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 6: came from you.

955
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 5: Know What i'm.

956
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: Saying it was built for, it you know WHAT i.

957
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 6: Mean my mother she like WHEN i went To, duke she, like,

958
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 6: yeah you like, that you like, architecture, Right so you

959
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 6: like that. Architecture i'm, like, yeah well she's like a

960
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 6: black man designed all of. It he don't get no

961
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 6: credit for, it you know WHAT i? Mean like they,

962
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 6: are we are ready for, it you know WHAT i.

963
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 6: Mean and that's why it doesn't surprise me j ON tv,

964
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 6: now it doesn't surprise me other. Things so you, KNOW

965
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 6: i can't take one, MOMENT i just take all of.

966
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 6: Us it did a lot for, us man because growing,

967
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 6: up we, like we watched y'all one than we watched

968
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 6: THE nba because we felt like we were.

969
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:16,879
Speaker 5: Y'all like these are five.

970
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: Guys that's the, best come from the, bottom that's the best.

971
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 6: Confidence and they supporting each. Other and another, thing we

972
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 6: talk About big, three you can never duplicate The fab.

973
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 8: Five though we.

974
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 6: Talk About big three right now they talking About big three.

975
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,399
Speaker 6: Teams why ain't nobody talking about The fab Five because

976
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 6: you can't duplicate. That y'all was meant to be the

977
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 6: cornerstone and the culture at that. Time, bro you know

978
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 6: WHAT i, Mean we appreciate it because it did a

979
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 6: lot for. US i appreciate the fact you said that

980
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 6: you saw yourself and.

981
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:46,240
Speaker 1: US i promise.

982
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 6: You that's WHY i used to be like at the,

983
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 6: GAME i used to have tears in my. Eyes our

984
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 6: mom is watching the, game or you, know even, commentating

985
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 6: like some of the reasons and some of the WAYS

986
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 6: i commentate is on purpose BECAUSE i know what they

987
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 6: said about. Us we cut our, hair we cut our yair.

988
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 6: Dog it's like my father always you, know my, father my.

989
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 6: Father people Think juan my father Is juwan did my

990
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 6: father looked Like muhammad Al Lee juan Will smith like all.

991
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 6: That he had the same army. Haircut and we're, like

992
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 6: we're gonna make you cut your, hand pretty. Boy you

993
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 6: know we go to the final, four you gotta cut his.

994
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 6: Hair ball all of us cut out. Hair AND i

995
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 6: remember the. Game you know my mother she just, says you,

996
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 6: KNOW i was messed. Up you know they said y'all

997
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,879
Speaker 6: look like. Thugs but she wanted me to hear. That

998
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 6: and he's, like, oh you you want to see you

999
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 6: want to see what this is on the? Court well

1000
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 6: that's really, SHOW i asked. Today so we were built for,

1001
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 6: it and we had a lot of. People so many

1002
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 6: people support, us man and give us that energy because

1003
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 6: it was a lot to. Carry maybe maybe not you

1004
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 6: really don't, remember BUT i remember the.

1005
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: Love especially for your age. Though that's a lot to

1006
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:44,879
Speaker 1: have on your. SHOULDERS i got the.

1007
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 6: Pictures my whole team ninety, four ninety, five ninety six state,

1008
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 6: championship all whole team Ball head because y'all did.

1009
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 5: It.

1010
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah so obviously there's been. Talks and SINCE i

1011
00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: feel like you're my big, Brother i'm gonna go ahead

1012
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: and ask you there the thirty for thirty doc came,

1013
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: out you weren't involved in. It where did The fab

1014
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 1: five situation gone? Wrong and is it righted today in

1015
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: twenty twenty.

1016
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,280
Speaker 6: One, yeah SO i don't think The fab five situation

1017
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 6: ever went? Wrong, okay you, know LIKE i, SAY i,

1018
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 6: MEAN i talked to a great time right on the

1019
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:23,879
Speaker 6: outside looking. It, yeah, YEAH i talked to cats too.

1020
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 6: Much you, know if if they if this was, loud

1021
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 6: they he turned to text nine fuck up the. Interview

1022
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 6: BUT i would say THAT i would say that the

1023
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 6: deterioration of me And Jay rowse relationship could probably have

1024
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 6: an effect on, everybody you know What i'm, Saying and

1025
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 6: So i've always tried to be, Careful but you're my,

1026
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 6: brother and this you're just gonna do. It i've tried

1027
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 6: to be careful of how to talk about my relationship.

1028
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 5: Because you don't.

1029
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 6: Understand i'm the oldest of, Five so my mother taught

1030
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,320
Speaker 6: me a couple of. Things If i'm fighting my brother

1031
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 6: in the street and the strange try to break us

1032
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 6: up deep they ass and get back to, Fighting ain't.

1033
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 5: Nobody like how do? You how the hell you getting?

1034
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: Off you know WHAT i?

1035
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:10,479
Speaker 6: Mean, well we love each, other we, fight so that's one.

1036
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 6: Thing and then just it's not fair to save my

1037
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,760
Speaker 6: side without someone there saying that. Side AND i feel

1038
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 6: like the whole time it has been a negative coming at,

1039
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 6: Me LIKE i felt, like damn at all are people

1040
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 6: to hate me out all the white, people all, this

1041
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 6: all that that's been trying to get me for.

1042
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 1: Years you you, yeah you? Yeah that shit hurt me

1043
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 1: to my.

1044
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,919
Speaker 6: Court, Dog i'm holding me in tears right, now, right

1045
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 6: But i'm not. Perfect i'm not saying. That so this

1046
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 6: ain't no sides or. Nothing it's just something on my

1047
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 6: brother's show telling me what. Happened so with, that And

1048
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 6: i'm a big, brother SO i know how to get

1049
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 6: out the. Way matter of, FACT i get out the

1050
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 6: way too.

1051
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 5: Much SO.

1052
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 6: I just want people at the end of the day

1053
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,959
Speaker 6: that the brothers to remember they don't love. Us that's.

1054
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 6: All that's. All THAT'S I i know they don't love.

1055
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 6: Me and you can be a good man knowing they

1056
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 6: don't love.

1057
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 1: You, yeah, Right. Yeah my mother used to have a,

1058
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 1: saying you, know who are they to be equal? To mm?

1059
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 1: Whatever that whatever that?

1060
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 6: Means a basketball player for forty years is just a?

1061
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 6: Businessman who is he to be equal?

1062
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 10: To you?

1063
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 1: Know we we you, know you, know so you KNOW i,

1064
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: was you, KNOW.

1065
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 15: I.

1066
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 6: WAS i think that me being like, damn you know

1067
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,359
Speaker 6: WHAT i? Mean like things said you called time out

1068
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 6: on purpose things and it said like you lied in

1069
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 6: court like. That w that would hurt any real one

1070
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 6: with knowing that you, righteous with knowing that you don't

1071
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 6: do nothing to you to especially to your brother in

1072
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 6: that form, we LIKE i, said we not, perfect but

1073
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 6: in that form to initially hurt you as a, brother

1074
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 6: that should hurt. Brow it's this Song stars is a dope.

1075
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:05,919
Speaker 6: Song it's an old song in the. SEVENTIES i think

1076
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 6: in this Giant JAN i don't know her, name but janis.

1077
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 6: Iron it's Not. JOPPLIN i know what you're talking. ABOUT

1078
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,760
Speaker 6: i probably chopping this girl name. Up but she, says

1079
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 6: how do you make amends without? Defending like IF i

1080
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 6: say to, you you, know stack, man you ain't never you,

1081
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:26,439
Speaker 6: know you have a comeback and come to the point

1082
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,919
Speaker 6: you address. It at some, point you're gonna have to be, like, hey,

1083
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 6: dog you know what, happened?

1084
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 5: Right you know What i'm.

1085
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 12: Saying AND i.

1086
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 5: DON'T i.

1087
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 6: DON'T i don't want to do that Because i'm working

1088
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 6: On i've been working on forgetting this, dog BECAUSE i

1089
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 6: Want god to forgive, me you know WHAT i. Mean

1090
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 6: like when it talks about forget seven times seven, times

1091
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 6: like it just clicked with.

1092
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 1: Me it ain't forget that many.

1093
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 6: Times it's that might take that might that might be

1094
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:53,320
Speaker 6: how many times you gotta?

1095
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 5: Forgive you know WHAT i?

1096
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 6: Mean BECAUSE i could be late again, today like you

1097
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 6: have to forgive me. Again you have to forgive me,

1098
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 6: again you. Know AND i Want god forgive. ME i

1099
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 6: won't forgive this for my. BROTHERS i want you know and,

1100
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 6: so but What i've learned IS i can forgive you

1101
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 6: without fucking with.

1102
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 1: YOU i love you from a. Distance, yeah AND i

1103
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:11,839
Speaker 1: will tell you.

1104
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 6: This we're, brothers AND i know it'll IT'LL i know

1105
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:20,839
Speaker 6: you know again were, brothers so you, know But i've

1106
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 6: never said nothing about, it And i'm just, like you

1107
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 6: got the biggest media company in the, world y'all biggest doc.

1108
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:32,879
Speaker 6: EVER i hope you're on the, story. RIGHT i hope

1109
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 6: you're on that because but but but that's you see

1110
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 6: me being laid, back trying to be cool and not say.

1111
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 6: Nothing that's got also saying, Like, okay you better quit

1112
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 6: running from confrontation and tell your story because you got

1113
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 6: a son coming.

1114
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 1: Up you're gonna let him think that's what.

1115
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 5: Is that's WHY i got the book.

1116
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 6: In the doc And i'm gonna inspire some mother fun

1117
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 6: kids Because i'm gonna really show you what it's. Like

1118
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 6: Like i'm not embarrassed in what my father came.

1119
00:49:55,600 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 5: From he all, right what part did you pay in the?

1120
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 6: Swag LIKE i know everybody had their own, input the

1121
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 6: baggy shorts of shoes you.

1122
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:17,720
Speaker 27: Played it's hard for me to like say it without

1123
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 27: people thinking Like i'm trying to make it about.

1124
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 1: Me but you was the fashionable one.

1125
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 27: THOUGH i was look at it one that. CARED i cared,

1126
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 27: More that's All juwan. Didn't jawan was, like, No i'm

1127
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 27: trying to. Ball jawan's a. Professional jawan was always ten

1128
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 27: years older than, us.

1129
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 1: But the same, age but the same.

1130
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 27: Age never had a not a fresh, cut always had

1131
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 27: a big gold, tee always had a crease in his.

1132
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 8: Pants like we all kept our.

1133
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 27: Originality and so many times people talk about us all

1134
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:50,720
Speaker 27: wearing bad.

1135
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 8: Heads he ain't cut his hair.

1136
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 5: Ball he didn't.

1137
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,359
Speaker 8: Know, yeah he was, LIKE i love, Y'ALL i ain't

1138
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 8: cutting my hair. Ball I'M i ain't cutting my.

1139
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 27: Hairball so LIKE i started wanting to wear the shorts

1140
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 27: Because Doug Smith, Missouri Steve Smith's, Syracuse Anderson HUNT u

1141
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 27: n L. V Steve, Smith Michigan. State they used to

1142
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 27: all come home in the summer and bring me, shorts,

1143
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 27: Right SO i used to have those satin shorts down

1144
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 27: on my knees with. All they get heavy when you

1145
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 27: start sweating in.

1146
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 8: Them but they were so.

1147
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 27: Cold so, like by the time we got to, College i'm,

1148
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 27: like y'all got A nike. CONTRACT i know y'all can

1149
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 27: get us a longer. Shorts that's really what it. Was Bobbie,

1150
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:36,959
Speaker 27: BLAND i remember his. Name our, Equipment, like we want

1151
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 27: some longer. Shorts and then the other thing y'all, Know

1152
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 27: Nike rep came. In welcome to the. School everything's, great.

1153
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,839
Speaker 27: Man he put out some power for. Shoes, man back,

1154
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:48,760
Speaker 27: Up power forward.

1155
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:49,439
Speaker 1: Shoes back.

1156
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:54,839
Speaker 8: Up, yeah we're not wearing them with a bow.

1157
00:51:55,000 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 27: Jacket we we ain't wearing no high. Tops up to my,

1158
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 27: Cap i'm not wearing. Them and so that's when The hirachis.

1159
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 27: Came they didn't even want us to wear them because

1160
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 27: they felt like it wasn't a basketball shoe because your

1161
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 27: ankles were out. Right and so we wore them and

1162
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 27: they's like you got to get your ankles tape before every,

1163
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 27: practice before every game for a, lawsuit like. Ok and

1164
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 27: then we signed a little wafers so we could wear those.

1165
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 27: Shoes and that's where like the whole fashion thing with

1166
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 27: the shoes came from the ball. Heads it was more

1167
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 27: like just, solidarity one for, all all of.

1168
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:33,359
Speaker 5: One.

1169
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:37,280
Speaker 8: Whatever the Socks Ray jackson.

1170
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 27: Really, yes, indeed we were about to play In. TEXAS

1171
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,760
Speaker 27: i forgot the FIRST i forgot one of Them texas.

1172
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 1: Schools And.

1173
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 27: Ray's homeboy came to the. Hotel ray was, like da da,

1174
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 27: Dah i've been, traveling bring me some. Socks and he

1175
00:52:56,320 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 27: Brought ray a gray pair with Blue, nike AND i

1176
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 27: was in the room playing Uh, madden And ray came

1177
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 27: in the room and he pulled out the. Socks i'm,

1178
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 27: like what you get do? Fun it's like you just

1179
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 27: got it for the. Mall and then we all looked like.

1180
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:12,760
Speaker 8: They have some Black.

1181
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 27: So we went to the mall and now just think about,

1182
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 27: this they didn't have five pairs of black socks out

1183
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 27: of an entire. Mall the first, GAME i wore dress

1184
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 27: socks on top of my white.

1185
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 8: Sox true story on dress.

1186
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 27: Socks we went to the little, stall we put on our,

1187
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:38,359
Speaker 27: unis covered up the, socks D. D we ain't gonna

1188
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 27: snap off our pants until right before the tip, off

1189
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 27: so they won't tell.

1190
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 1: Us.

1191
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 8: No you know how that. Worked we do it prior

1192
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:46,359
Speaker 8: gotta get.

1193
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 27: It we're gonna shut it, down.

1194
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 8: So we're gonna make sure it can't shut it.

1195
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 27: Down so that that's how we did.

1196
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 5: It that's.

1197
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,280
Speaker 1: Dope, yeah Oh.

1198
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:00,399
Speaker 8: Rice that's who he's.

1199
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 1: Playing he's what's your relationship?

1200
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 8: NOW i love.

1201
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 27: Him he should be in The hall Of. Fame three,

1202
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 27: final FOUR Us National. Championship he should be in The

1203
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:10,919
Speaker 27: hall Of. Fame did great With San Diego state brought

1204
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 27: their program back to. Life Brian, dutcher who now, coaching

1205
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 27: was the lead. Recruiters juwan signed with him, first now

1206
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 27: their head. Coach he was giving our tickets on. Campus

1207
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 27: now they got a real. Program he should be in

1208
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 27: The hall Of. Fame he's got many championships As Jim

1209
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 27: beahan and my Guy Michigan, state WHO i. LOVE i,

1210
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 27: mean he got many, championships has, them SO i feel

1211
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 27: like he deserves.

1212
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 1: It what's your relationship With? Web we touched on it

1213
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 1: In atlanta when we had him recently disintroducted The hall Of.

1214
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 1: Fame saw that shout, Out but what's your relationship With?

1215
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 27: WEB i Love web And i'm almost, sure especially Since

1216
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 27: juwan just re signed That i'll see him in that.

1217
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:54,879
Speaker 8: Arbor i'm back living in the d AND.

1218
00:54:54,880 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 27: I see he just did it something incredible donation to

1219
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 27: cannabis and al killing them In detroit, too shot the.

1220
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 8: VIOLA i just love how.

1221
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 27: Strip clubs and we used to be taboo even though

1222
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 27: everybody else was doing. It now we started Doing it's

1223
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 27: great to see us getting profit off of, it and

1224
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 27: SO i believe we be able a break bread this

1225
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 27: year or whatever at a Game i'm GLAD i got

1226
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 27: a chance to be there when he got inducted in

1227
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,720
Speaker 27: The hall Of. Fame i'm glad he got a chance

1228
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 27: to be on the show right AFTER i lost my,

1229
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 27: mom and so we're. GOODIE i have no, problems no

1230
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 27: ill will with my. Brother of, course we need to

1231
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 27: probably sit down and talk about some dotsormize and cross

1232
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 27: some teas or. Whatever but you, Know i'm taking the

1233
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 27: bullet for, see, well that's my.

1234
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 1: BROTHER i love to hear. That being big fans of

1235
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 1: both y'all and he was kind of my big brother

1236
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 1: coming up through the league and just being big. Fans

1237
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:51,360
Speaker 1: so obviously at this, POINT i, mean tomorrow's never, Promised

1238
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 1: so to be able to see that bridge being rebuilt

1239
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 1: or not even that it was, broken but just being

1240
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 1: able with like you, said cross it, TOGETHER i think that's, dope.

1241
00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 1: Man so we definitely commend you for. That McDonald's All

1242
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 1: American state champions scored forty three points in the championship.

1243
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:17,439
Speaker 1: Game those are Your Al bundy days recruited you ended

1244
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 1: up Choosing. Duke what was it About duke that spoke

1245
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 1: right to?

1246
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,399
Speaker 11: You By Olt bundy, days you.

1247
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: Know when he reminisces about his Polk hi. DAYS i

1248
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 1: used to do this in high school and do that

1249
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 1: in high, school but you really had the. Accolades, yeah.

1250
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:36,839
Speaker 28: HONESTLY i MEAN i was A duke fan SINCE i

1251
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,839
Speaker 28: was like, eight SINCE i first started playing, basketball and

1252
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 28: my first year of basketball was when they had had

1253
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 28: won their second national championship against.

1254
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 11: AGAINST i guess it Was michigan that.

1255
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:55,400
Speaker 28: Year, yeah because in ninety one they Beat, Kansas so

1256
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 28: they Beat michigan in ninety, two AND i probably watched

1257
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 28: that game like twenty. Times somebody had had taped it

1258
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 28: ON vhs at our house and then it ended up

1259
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 28: getting taped over by the sound of.

1260
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:10,239
Speaker 11: MUSIC i was FUCKING i had that game memorized for

1261
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 11: like two.

1262
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 29: Years and so it was like by the TIME i

1263
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 29: got to high, school, man LIKE i was getting recruited

1264
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 29: by a lot of, teams you, know LIKE, uva AND

1265
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 29: i was From VIRGINIA'S uva Was omnyard And Texas Stanford Billy.

1266
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 29: Donovan it was A florida at the, time AND i

1267
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 29: was really interested in going, there but it was always

1268
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 29: a situation where if coach k And duke.

1269
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 11: Had made me an, offer LIKE i was going to go,

1270
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 11: there you know it.

1271
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 28: Was it was the hardest part for me was saying

1272
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 28: no TO uva BECAUSE i did feel some sense of.

1273
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 28: Loyalty my family had lived In charlottesville for a few

1274
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 28: years before we moved To, roanoke and you, KNOW i

1275
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 28: had some friends that were going to go TO. Uva

1276
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 28: my best friend in high school was going to go

1277
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 28: play baseball and football. There so it was that was

1278
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 28: the hardest, part was just saying no to. Them but

1279
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 28: going To duke was it was the dream come. True you,

1280
00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 28: KNOW i.

1281
00:57:58,280 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 5: DIDN'T i.

1282
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 28: DIDN'T i didn't, REALLY i didn't really bad AN I

1283
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 28: it was, like you have a chance to, come here's

1284
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 28: your you, know here's your. Offer and then like three

1285
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 28: days LATER i Called COACH k AND i, said.

1286
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 5: All, Right i'm.

1287
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 1: Coming that's. DOPE i, mean with the rich history At,

1288
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 1: duke with all The All americans AND nba, players they turned,

1289
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 1: out you, know two TIME Icc player of The, year

1290
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 1: all Time duke leading. Score what was your experience like,

1291
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 1: There and tell us About COACH. K what was like

1292
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 1: playing with him and what did you learn from.

1293
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 28: HIM i feel LIKE i HAD i had two chapters

1294
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 28: of My duke, career and it was you, know my

1295
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 28: freshman and sophomore year and my junior and senior, year and.

1296
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 11: My first chapter was really.

1297
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 28: Hard this was the chapter that Made Matt barnes THINK

1298
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 28: i was an, asshole and most Of america THOUGHT i

1299
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 28: was an. Asshole you, know you're you're eighteen years old

1300
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 28: as a, freshman AND i you, KNOW i, played and

1301
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 28: at that, POINT i played.

1302
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 11: In a lot of big, games but it's never in

1303
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 11: front of.

1304
00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 28: Fans and you go on your first road game and

1305
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 28: it's that you're like twelve games into your freshman year

1306
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 28: and the entire student section is yelling profanities at. YOU

1307
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 28: i had in college my first two, YEARS i had

1308
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 28: this like bad acne and shoulder. Acne and so you

1309
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 28: see kids like wearing these Mock duke for number four

1310
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 28: jerseys and they've painted these red dots all over their

1311
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 28: shoulders and their signs about your, family and you're, like holy.

1312
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 11: Shit what DID i just sign up?

1313
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 28: For and you, Know i'm, Not I'm i'm not somebody

1314
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 28: that's gonna like back down from. That so THEN i

1315
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 28: sort of started creating this persona on the, court.

1316
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 11: And there was a lot of head, bobbing a lot

1317
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 11: of trash.

1318
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 28: Talking it was it was a lot like How jack

1319
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 28: played in THE, nba ONLY i was just a just

1320
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 28: a fucking cocky white, kid you know WHAT i.

1321
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 11: Mean so everybody hated, me.

1322
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 28: And you, know by the end of my sophomore, YEAR

1323
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 28: i was so distraught about, it AND i had gone

1324
00:59:56,320 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 28: to a really bad place and had had. MISBEHAVED i

1325
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 28: would SAY i misbehaved my sophomore. YEAR i tried to.

1326
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 28: QUIT i told my SISTERS i wanted to. Quit like

1327
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 28: this Was december of my sophomore.

1328
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 1: Year.

1329
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 28: DUKE i was, like, this this is not for, me

1330
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 28: is not WHAT i signed up. For AND i had

1331
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 28: basically a come To jesus moment with coach k in

1332
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 28: Late may of my sophomore. YEAR i guess it was

1333
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 28: after my sophomore, year summer between sophomore and junior, year

1334
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 28: and he sat me down the office and he just, said, look,

1335
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 28: man he's, like you've been, good like you you, know

1336
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 28: you Were all acc last year and you were third

1337
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 28: Team All, american we made The final.

1338
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:35,920
Speaker 11: Four it's like you've been, good but what you're doing

1339
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 11: isn't good. Enough and Coach, collins who's.

1340
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 28: Now At, Northwestern Chris Collins Duck coollin's son he, Said

1341
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 28: i'll never. Forget he, said the sad thing is we'll

1342
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 28: never know how good you can.

1343
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 11: Be AND i was, like the fuck that. Hurts that.

1344
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 28: Hurts and that SUMMER i had them make me a

1345
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 28: schedule to the. HOUR i still have the fucking spreadsheet

1346
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 28: in a notebook in my. House they had met to the,

1347
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 28: hour you, know eight, am wake, up eight, thirty, breakfast nine,

1348
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 28: am checking with Coach, collins ten am Class and it

1349
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 28: was down the, line you, know, lifting, conditioning, basketball court,

1350
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 28: work study, hall lights, out ten. Pm and oh AND

1351
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 28: i had to carry a jug of water around the entire.

1352
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 28: SUMMER i had to have like a gallon jug of water.

1353
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 11: With me at all.

1354
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 1: Times was that to replace the?

1355
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:25,080
Speaker 11: Beer, yes it was to replace the. Beer i'll take

1356
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 11: you guys want to know.

1357
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 28: STORIES i feel like this is the type of podcast

1358
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 28: WHERE i tell, Stories yes about my sophomore, year but so,

1359
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 28: yes As i'm walking around campus with the jugg of.

1360
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 11: Water SO i did that all. Summer they didn't let

1361
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:35,959
Speaker 11: me PLAY usa.

1362
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 28: Basketball they're, like we want you, here we want you

1363
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 28: in our, environment and, man it was the best thing

1364
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 28: that ever happened for.

1365
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 11: ME i lost like twenty three POUNDS i.

1366
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 28: WAS i was over two fifteen at that, time In

1367
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 28: may of my sophomore. YEAR i started my junior year

1368
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:52,440
Speaker 28: at like one ninety. TWO i was in unbelievable. SHAPE

1369
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 28: i won every preseason conditioning thing our team had that,

1370
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 28: year AND i Got National player of The year my

1371
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 28: junior year AND Acc player of the. Year we were

1372
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 28: we were undermanned. Squad we ended up getting a number

1373
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 28: one seed in THE ncaa. Tournament we won THE Acc,

1374
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 28: championship lost in the sweet.

1375
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 11: Sixteen like it was.

1376
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 28: An it was absolutely that year was the turning point

1377
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 28: in my. Life and it was all that that jugg

1378
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 28: of fucking, water that's all it.

1379
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 5: Was, hey what? What what?

1380
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 8: Was the N, c N c And duke ribery was, Like.

1381
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 28: Oh my, Gosh i'm gonna mix two stories. Here i'm

1382
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 28: gonna miss mix two. TOPICS i Know matt wants to

1383
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 28: hear some. Stories so the N c N c, double The,

1384
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 28: DUKE q AND c rivalry was was was.

1385
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 11: Crazy there was nothing else like.

1386
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 28: It and you, know growing up A duke, fan you

1387
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 28: have such an appreciation for that. Rivalry and my first

1388
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 28: time playing in it was A duke game at home

1389
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 28: against you AND. C my freshman year and the crowd

1390
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 28: was just, different the, buzz the energy was just. Different

1391
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 28: and you, know looking, back it feels like A game

1392
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 28: seven of a playoff. Game and that's what A duke

1393
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 28: qu AND c game feels. Like my sophomore, year we're.

1394
01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 28: Playing we're we're gonna win the A sec regular season

1395
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 28: where the number one team of the COUNTRY us In,

1396
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 28: yukon we're basically number one or number two the whole,

1397
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 28: season so we're gonna win THE.

1398
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 11: Acc and it's the night before The DUKE q AND c.

1399
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 28: Game and it's game days, there so they got like

1400
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 28: the whole set up out In. Shoskville they got all

1401
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 28: the thus out.

1402
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 11: There oh it's.

1403
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 28: Popping So i'm in My i'm in my dorm room

1404
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 28: On West, campus AND i have a few friends. Over

1405
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 28: we we have a few beers or, whatever and so

1406
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 28: we get the idea that we should go down To

1407
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:32,800
Speaker 28: shishiskville because that's where the party is.

1408
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 11: Tonight this is A friday, night it was A saturday night.

1409
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 28: Game so we go down there and LIKE i ended

1410
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 28: up playing beer pong with UN c, fans my roommates

1411
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 28: running Through shozhskiville screaming at, people waking them, up making

1412
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 28: them take shots Of Captain Morgan's oh this is pre

1413
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 28: cell phones with, cameras you, know this is pre social.

1414
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 28: Media like like looking, back LIKE i would have got

1415
01:03:58,240 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 28: kicked off the.

1416
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 11: TEAM i would have been a. Wrap it would have

1417
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 11: been a, rap.

1418
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:03,440
Speaker 1: Right how did you play in that? Game? Though how

1419
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:04,919
Speaker 1: did you play in that game that? Night next?

1420
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 28: Night not great in the first, half not great in

1421
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 28: the first, half BUT i.

1422
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 11: Had a good second. HALF i ended up with fifteen.

1423
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 28: Points uh and and uh made the made the made

1424
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 28: the the game winning defensive.

1425
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 11: Play believe it or.

1426
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 28: Not we stripped with shot McCants and then dove on

1427
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 28: a loose, ball got, fouled and and hit the game

1428
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 28: clinching free.

1429
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:34,200
Speaker 14: Throw what was your recruiting? Process, like.

1430
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 30: You, know it was, good it was you, KNOW i

1431
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 30: mean for, me it was it was it Was Carolina.

1432
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 30: Georgetown those were the two schools THAT i.

1433
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 6: Loved dad wanted you to go TO. Unc, Yeah mama

1434
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:48,840
Speaker 6: wanted you to go To. Georgetown, man that's.

1435
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 30: Right so we had we had we had we had season,

1436
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 30: tickets so we would go To georgetown. Games AND i

1437
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 30: don't know if you Remember Michael jackson played with point.

1438
01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 30: Guard so he went to my high. School he used

1439
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 30: to work for my mother in the. Summers my mom

1440
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 30: Introduced Pat ewing to his. Wife SO i was SO

1441
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 30: i was entrenched With, georgetown LIKE i was all, in

1442
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:12,760
Speaker 30: like we all. WERE i think at that time Black.

1443
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 30: TEAM i thought it WAS i thought it WAS hbcu back.

1444
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 30: THEN i didn't realize it was like, eleven you, KNOW

1445
01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:23,160
Speaker 30: i didn't realize it was a private. School but So, Georgetown, Carolina,

1446
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 30: Michigan virginia And duke AND i made my first visit

1447
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 30: and it was To duke And COACH k just kind

1448
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:33,920
Speaker 30: of blew me. Away AND i knew right then THAT

1449
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 30: i wanted to be. There and and the genius of

1450
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 30: COACH k AND i, know you, know love Hate duke

1451
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:41,520
Speaker 30: and all. That and obviously now he's had he had

1452
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 30: great success at the end and coached The olympic. Team

1453
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 30: but his ability to get people to buy. In he

1454
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:52,480
Speaker 30: wasn't a, great excellent old, coach but like if he,

1455
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 30: sat he looked you in the eye like you believed in.

1456
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 30: Him and that was his, genius getting everybody to kind

1457
01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 30: of like buy in to him and buy into one.

1458
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 30: Another and so do du really wasn't my, fate but

1459
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 30: like you, know it just felt, right and you, know

1460
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 30: made that, decision and you, know fortunately we made.

1461
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:16,120
Speaker 6: History you win titles in ninety one and ninety, two

1462
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 6: the Famous Christian layton.

1463
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 5: Shot how big was that?

1464
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 30: Moment, Man it's, crazy you, know it's crazy to think

1465
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 30: that was thirty years ago and people still people still

1466
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 30: talk about.

1467
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 5: It But.

1468
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:36,840
Speaker 30: Christian was a great college. PLAYER i Mean Alonso, SHACK

1469
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 30: i mean everybody he, faced he Dominated shack twice and.

1470
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 5: He and we had a good.

1471
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 30: TEAM i, Mean bobby was a great college point CAUD

1472
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 30: i was you, KNOW i was a good. Player he

1473
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 30: had three he had three guys in The College Basketball

1474
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:58,400
Speaker 30: hall Of fame and so so those moments were. INCREDIBLE

1475
01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 30: i don't think we realized while we were doing it

1476
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:04,480
Speaker 30: the significance of what was. Happening we were just trying to.

1477
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 30: Win we WERE i was, NINETEEN i was a, kid

1478
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:12,600
Speaker 30: and but that passed The. Laightner that. Shot laydenon didn't

1479
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 30: miss a shot the whole. Game Laden it was Cocky.

1480
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 30: Lighten it was like he talked. Trash he also had

1481
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:23,440
Speaker 30: A he was a great teammate as. WELL i remember

1482
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:24,680
Speaker 30: we had a GAME i talked about in the.

1483
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 5: Book we had a.

1484
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 30: Game we went To buffalo to Play cantius and it

1485
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 30: was a game for, him going back to his. Hometown

1486
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 30: and at halftime he had like one or two shots

1487
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 30: And Coach k's, like, Like, christian what's going, On like

1488
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 30: this game's for. You you act like you don't want to,

1489
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:42,320
Speaker 30: play And he's, LIKE i want my hometown to see

1490
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 30: how good my teammates. Are and so you, know you

1491
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 30: you coming back, home college player of the, year you

1492
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:49,479
Speaker 30: want to try to show. Out but he was trying

1493
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 30: to show us out and so he. He you, know

1494
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:54,520
Speaker 30: you don't hear about that side Of. Christian you just

1495
01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 30: hear the you, know the, crazy and there was a

1496
01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 30: lot of. Craziness but but he. Was he was a great,

1497
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:02,960
Speaker 30: competitor you, know he he he and he did his.

1498
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 30: Work he did his thing with.

1499
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 6: All the noise and knowing how everybody feel About, duke

1500
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:12,680
Speaker 6: is the brotherhood tight enough to block out the noise

1501
01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:13,439
Speaker 6: and stay?

1502
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 8: Strong you?

1503
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:14,920
Speaker 7: Know?

1504
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:18,880
Speaker 30: YEAH i mean it's, funny, man BECAUSE i don't think

1505
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:22,519
Speaker 30: we were aware of what people's perceptions were back then

1506
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:26,240
Speaker 30: A duke AND i looked At duke no different THAN

1507
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 30: i looked At Wake, Forest Georgia, Tech. Georgetown these are

1508
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 30: p w y s that have good basketball, teams and

1509
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 30: SO i get it with the you, KNOW us Beating

1510
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:40,840
Speaker 30: vegas and The Fab five and Obviously jalen's documentary and

1511
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:44,360
Speaker 30: how they felt towards. Us BUT i wasn't aware of,

1512
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:48,240
Speaker 30: that like, honestly like we we got along with every,

1513
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:50,040
Speaker 30: like you, Know web was my. GUYS i talked some

1514
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:52,000
Speaker 30: stories About weber and there when we were in high.

1515
01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:57,519
Speaker 30: School he used to come visit me In. Virginia you,

1516
01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:00,360
Speaker 30: know we didn't have social media and read the newspaper back,

1517
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:02,880
Speaker 30: then so we were In. Durham we'd go To. Durham

1518
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 30: we go to, cookouts, barbecues. Barbershop everybody showed. Love SO

1519
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:09,920
Speaker 30: i don't THINK i was aware that there was this. Stigma,

1520
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:12,439
Speaker 30: yeah like this, NOW i should have known better BECAUSE

1521
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:15,559
Speaker 30: i didn't like The celtics for the very reason people

1522
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 30: didn't like. US i was A laker, fan AND i

1523
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:21,639
Speaker 30: identified with The. Lakers BUT i think because we had

1524
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:27,759
Speaker 30: really good white players and had a very latner, pearly

1525
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:31,280
Speaker 30: MAYBE i fit, this like you, know my parents and you,

1526
01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:34,240
Speaker 30: know people thought what they thought about. ME i think

1527
01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:36,840
Speaker 30: that might have contributed to the. Narrative but at the,

1528
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:42,519
Speaker 30: time LIKE i was totally oblivious to that, narrative and

1529
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:45,040
Speaker 30: not until years LATER i even thought the hate Towards

1530
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 30: duke later on was Because duke has success like The

1531
01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:49,599
Speaker 30: yankees or like.

1532
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 8: You, know The.

1533
01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 5: COWBOYS i didn't.

1534
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:54,800
Speaker 8: REALIZE i didn't really realize.

1535
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 1: That you could have used a better. Example BUT i

1536
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:57,120
Speaker 1: feel you over.

1537
01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:59,160
Speaker 30: The forty nine, ers you, know you, know and so

1538
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 30: BUT i get it, now LIKE i, understand and it

1539
01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:05,560
Speaker 30: was an interesting, time and you, know and so you,

1540
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:08,320
Speaker 30: KNOW i get the we had a brotherhood. Strong coach

1541
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:11,920
Speaker 30: k moved, on you, Know shires recruited, well.

1542
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 8: You, know we hope to stay. Relevant. Man that's that's

1543
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:15,960
Speaker 8: that's the main.

1544
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:29,120
Speaker 6: Thing in ninety One final, four y'all started thirty, FOUR i,

1545
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 6: know before losing The Duke Grant Hill Barba, Hariley Christian

1546
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 6: latna talk about that.

1547
01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:37,800
Speaker 12: Shout out To. Duke, NO i played in. IT i

1548
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:39,640
Speaker 12: played in, it you. Know and the only THING i

1549
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:41,360
Speaker 12: can say about, IT i say this all the. TIME

1550
01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:45,160
Speaker 12: i lost the. GAME i lost the, game AND i

1551
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 12: say it's a GRIG a go bullshit and everybody go. Bullshit,

1552
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:50,800
Speaker 12: no we did, this we did. That but being the

1553
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:54,720
Speaker 12: number one playing college that. Year everyone here all the.

1554
01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:57,519
Speaker 12: SMOKE i lost the. GAME i didn't play. HARD i

1555
01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:01,679
Speaker 12: was out There, ladlergagon you, know on seventy eighty, percent

1556
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:04,800
Speaker 12: thinking we're playing somebody just beat about thirty the year.

1557
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:06,840
Speaker 12: Before but it was closed the whole, game AND i.

1558
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:09,760
Speaker 12: Wasn't it wasn't with. Me were up, four we up,

1559
01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:11,800
Speaker 12: five then they're tied. Up we, go we going that

1560
01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:14,320
Speaker 12: little run. Again BUT i was loud. AGAIN i was

1561
01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:16,880
Speaker 12: thinking about the. League, yeah, MAN i said this. Before

1562
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:18,960
Speaker 12: i'm not snitching. HIM i said this. BEFORE i always

1563
01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:22,360
Speaker 12: SAY i lost that. Game and at the end WHEN

1564
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:25,559
Speaker 12: i anybody else saw the end of that, GAME i

1565
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:27,720
Speaker 12: know you two did. Right SHOULD i shot the?

1566
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 4: Ball?

1567
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:30,680
Speaker 5: ABSOLUTELY i should have shot the.

1568
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:33,720
Speaker 28: Ball choke point, out he's gonna send five men to the.

1569
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:35,720
Speaker 11: Boards Larry johnson brings the.

1570
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:37,840
Speaker 28: Ball, up looks like he wants to go all the

1571
01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:38,120
Speaker 28: way with.

1572
01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:42,120
Speaker 1: Him he's outside, now stopping his. Trouble later on Him

1573
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:48,080
Speaker 1: hunt will have to do something. Great hurling's gone two

1574
01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:51,040
Speaker 1: cost two cuts up to touch you AND, o, BABE

1575
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 1: i never.

1576
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:55,000
Speaker 5: Heard THAT i. SHOT i should have shot the. Ball

1577
01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 5: choke say that all the.

1578
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:58,640
Speaker 1: Time talk a little bit about you touched on it,

1579
01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:02,800
Speaker 1: earlier but Just tark versus the, world the mentality of the.

1580
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:06,000
Speaker 1: Team what kind of Dude tark, Was how he captivated

1581
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 1: people just like you guys did as a, team and

1582
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:11,120
Speaker 1: just how good then obviously his wife and.

1583
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:12,600
Speaker 8: Everything how good was he to you?

1584
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 12: Guys, again you're talking to someone who never met his.

1585
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:19,240
Speaker 12: Father so every coach was almost, like that's who's telling

1586
01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:21,360
Speaker 12: me what to do day in and day, out, Right

1587
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:24,200
Speaker 12: so as a, man so he was that and me

1588
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:26,280
Speaker 12: and coach was real. Close AND i know people, saying,

1589
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:28,639
Speaker 12: yeah he was a number one player on the, team

1590
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:31,200
Speaker 12: but it don't matter who you. Are when you see

1591
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:33,840
Speaker 12: the way he treated people and treated, you that's what

1592
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:35,720
Speaker 12: a respect comes. In because he was bigger than we.

1593
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 5: Was.

1594
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:39,240
Speaker 12: Now now we were some bad motherfuckers and everybody loved the,

1595
01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:41,840
Speaker 12: team but Coach tark was an. Outcome you got to

1596
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:45,240
Speaker 12: remember to. Everyone, now you, guys what The raiders, There

1597
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:49,400
Speaker 12: you got the girls team, there you got that badass

1598
01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 12: hockey team, there, right forget about. It when we was AT,

1599
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:58,000
Speaker 12: unlv there was no professional team. Nowhere it was just

1600
01:12:58,120 --> 01:12:59,919
Speaker 12: that college right there in that basketball.

1601
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:02,479
Speaker 1: Team how important is it? Too because we do have

1602
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:04,680
Speaker 1: some some high school kids and some college kids in

1603
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:07,160
Speaker 1: that just falling in love with the. Game obviously you're IN,

1604
01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:09,559
Speaker 1: unlv and like you, said the world was right, there

1605
01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:11,720
Speaker 1: but you really loved the game and talked about being

1606
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:13,800
Speaker 1: in the gym all the. Time how important was.

1607
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 5: That aspect for?

1608
01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:15,400
Speaker 8: You it was very.

1609
01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:17,720
Speaker 12: Important THAT'S i, mean you know how when you love the.

1610
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:20,120
Speaker 12: Game these youngsters know how it. Is when you love,

1611
01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:21,880
Speaker 12: it you don't never want to be away from. It

1612
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:26,000
Speaker 12: AND i saw an opportunity to get my moms no

1613
01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 12: matter what we was. In you, know we all got that,

1614
01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:30,000
Speaker 12: story you know how that. IS i was that dude

1615
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:34,920
Speaker 12: so and and anybody again when you put up them two,

1616
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:38,200
Speaker 12: dude that was wilder. Up there was two. Squares it

1617
01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:43,280
Speaker 12: was two. Squares if it wasn't a female or gym

1618
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 12: or now you, know you only want to get something neat,

1619
01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:48,040
Speaker 12: man that's all we. Did so IF i IF i

1620
01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:50,000
Speaker 12: had a coach that was like, this that was that

1621
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:52,599
Speaker 12: was that saw the vision and it was gonna help

1622
01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:52,880
Speaker 12: me with.

1623
01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:54,599
Speaker 5: It, man you KNOW i took.

1624
01:13:54,680 --> 01:14:06,920
Speaker 1: It so when do you feel like you were on

1625
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:08,800
Speaker 1: the map? Then and it was In college of The

1626
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:10,160
Speaker 1: arizona's when you put yourself on the.

1627
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:15,840
Speaker 20: Map even even even even WHEN i went To, arizona.

1628
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:17,680
Speaker 1: You, KNOW i got.

1629
01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:19,479
Speaker 8: Fault you, know there's you, Know i'm on a team

1630
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:20,519
Speaker 8: with four you know.

1631
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:22,800
Speaker 1: What was your?

1632
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:25,560
Speaker 8: Team we had A Jason GARDNER.

1633
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:27,439
Speaker 5: I was at the.

1634
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:30,880
Speaker 20: Two we Had Richard jefferson at the, Three Michael right

1635
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:32,720
Speaker 20: at the, Four Warren woods at THE fivet And Pig.

1636
01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 20: Woods ship my my my freshman. Year we had Little

1637
01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:39,519
Speaker 20: record who came in From. Iowa and then we had

1638
01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:42,560
Speaker 20: Uh lithuania kid who who holds a record you know

1639
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:45,720
Speaker 20: for Like duncan twelve six or thirteen feet you. Know

1640
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:49,040
Speaker 20: so we had so much, talent SO i was getting red.

1641
01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:52,080
Speaker 20: Short we had a juco player co runner for the,

1642
01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:53,720
Speaker 20: Year Lamon, fraser you.

1643
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 8: Know so we had some boys coming. In SO i

1644
01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:58,760
Speaker 8: was the young, buck you, know like they're gonna red

1645
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:04,879
Speaker 8: shirt me and COOL i can, learn and my asshole

1646
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:05,439
Speaker 8: ism kicked.

1647
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:08,400
Speaker 14: In, asshold, yeah my asshole doesn't kicked.

1648
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:10,000
Speaker 5: In SO i was, like, Man i'm about to go

1649
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 5: for the.

1650
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 20: Position bro because, coach you, know coach will be like all,

1651
01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:16,200
Speaker 20: right so, listen the four and a five is set,

1652
01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:17,479
Speaker 20: one two, three fight for, it.

1653
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:22,960
Speaker 8: Like, oh SHIP i started training fun that school, SHIP.

1654
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:27,639
Speaker 1: I ain't what you was supposed to go, there, right that's.

1655
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:31,960
Speaker 6: What you was on, too, Right, YEAH i WISH i

1656
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 6: could have got An annoucal. CHAMPIONSHIP i ended up losing

1657
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:37,320
Speaker 6: by not getting. In they wanted theysed to my fresh. Year,

1658
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:40,800
Speaker 6: okay my baby fresh, yea, yep that's. CHAMPIONSHIP i missed

1659
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:44,280
Speaker 6: it not taking the, test showing up late.

1660
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:46,680
Speaker 5: Hungover SO i.

1661
01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:49,920
Speaker 20: DIDN'T i JUST i just started, training watching the habits

1662
01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:53,320
Speaker 20: of you, know Like Ruben. Douglas and then like people,

1663
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:54,799
Speaker 20: said Like Ruben, douglas we played.

1664
01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:59,640
Speaker 8: Against each other the high. SCHOOL i was, faster he was, stronger.

1665
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 20: Bigger BUT i WAS i was more, athletic and he

1666
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:05,360
Speaker 20: just didn't know my skill LIKE i improved since high.

1667
01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:08,400
Speaker 20: School so when coach threw that ball, UP i was

1668
01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 20: a whole nother. Demon so WHEN i stole a, position

1669
01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:16,120
Speaker 20: he was, Like i'm, Transferring and then Lou record, said

1670
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:16,519
Speaker 20: Should i'm?

1671
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:19,240
Speaker 8: Transferring? Oh should don't have no?

1672
01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:23,360
Speaker 20: Competition, YEAH i have no competition now LIKE i don't

1673
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:25,160
Speaker 20: have NO i don't have to fight with. Anybody so

1674
01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:28,320
Speaker 20: now you, know NOW i have no. Worries NOW i

1675
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:30,640
Speaker 20: can just play a free. Game and then once that

1676
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:32,080
Speaker 20: free game came, in and you, Know i'm leading the

1677
01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:36,000
Speaker 20: team scoring, now AND i was like Should i'm four years,

1678
01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:37,160
Speaker 20: fast AND i THOUGHT i was going.

1679
01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:44,840
Speaker 5: To be who's recruiting you Besides? Arizona, uh North?

1680
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:51,679
Speaker 8: RIDGE i was. LOW i was North it was North.

1681
01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 20: RIDGE i was being recruited by North. Ridge and the

1682
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:56,720
Speaker 20: guy from North ridge got a job At Kansas. State

1683
01:16:57,720 --> 01:17:00,400
Speaker 20: So Kansas state came, in you, know, like, yeah we're

1684
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:03,599
Speaker 20: gonna give you a thousand thousand minutes as a. Freshman i'm,

1685
01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:06,160
Speaker 20: like ship, WHATEVER i just you, know just let me

1686
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:10,760
Speaker 20: do WHAT i. Do and then The Paul paul came in.

1687
01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:14,240
Speaker 1: Squad then right before they had still que.

1688
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:16,679
Speaker 8: And, yeah SO i was gonna go be the point guard.

1689
01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:20,960
Speaker 1: There Look michael McPherson. Too and Then Pat.

1690
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:24,479
Speaker 20: Kennedy Pat kennedy the, coach and my dad had ties

1691
01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:26,559
Speaker 20: from you, Know, florida so they, was you, know working

1692
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:27,080
Speaker 20: their little.

1693
01:17:27,479 --> 01:17:32,240
Speaker 8: Deal so SO i was gonna go.

1694
01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:36,240
Speaker 20: There so right BEFORE i was gonna, go, Uh Pat

1695
01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:39,559
Speaker 20: kennedy's mother, died so they had to cancel the. Trip

1696
01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:43,560
Speaker 20: and Then ludelsen came in and, SAID i mean he

1697
01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:45,439
Speaker 20: came into the house and, said, Listen i've never seen

1698
01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:48,000
Speaker 20: you play UNTIL i got on the. Plane you're you

1699
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:53,840
Speaker 20: have the kind of STYLE i, like if you want to,

1700
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:57,479
Speaker 20: come you, know it's whoever you know the sides first between, You.

1701
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:02,400
Speaker 8: Kevin gaines And Jimmy.

1702
01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:04,280
Speaker 5: Hayward AND i was, like.

1703
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:08,360
Speaker 20: Okay SO i went to go take a trip and

1704
01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:10,640
Speaker 20: it had like some little scrimmage There Michael dickerson, them

1705
01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:13,599
Speaker 20: AND i was. BAWLING i was, like, oh, Yeah i'm coming.

1706
01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:16,479
Speaker 20: Here i'm coming. Here you didn't get the pancakes from Miss.

1707
01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 20: OLSEN i don't know she.

1708
01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:28,400
Speaker 6: Madcakes, yeah come, on don't tell me experience.

1709
01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:31,680
Speaker 1: That the trip in a.

1710
01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:34,360
Speaker 20: Pancake what kind of bond did you build With? Luke

1711
01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:38,479
Speaker 20: what's the Funny IS i Hope i'm a coach like

1712
01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:46,880
Speaker 20: him because you gotta, Remember I'm i'm, immature LIKE i

1713
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:50,720
Speaker 20: Was dennis the, Minutes Like i'm, like there was no

1714
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 20: WAY i should have Been first of, ALL i should

1715
01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:52,960
Speaker 20: have been kicked out.

1716
01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 1: The school or.

1717
01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:59,719
Speaker 20: Bench and he never he never punished me on that basketball,

1718
01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:02,680
Speaker 20: court like he never let some out WHAT i was

1719
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:06,840
Speaker 20: doing outside affect my playing. Time, no the only way

1720
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:08,880
Speaker 20: that you, know like IF i was gonna get bench

1721
01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:11,200
Speaker 20: is because SOMETHING i didn't, practice like IF i didn't

1722
01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:11,360
Speaker 20: go to.

1723
01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:13,640
Speaker 5: Class he's, like all, right you don't want to go to?

1724
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:20,599
Speaker 20: Class five miles five, miles six am under thirty, minutes all,

1725
01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:22,560
Speaker 20: right you know WHAT i? Mean you, know so you

1726
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:24,880
Speaker 20: know that's how you know that's BUT i looked at

1727
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:27,600
Speaker 20: us Like i'm just getting in. Shape but he never he,

1728
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 20: never he, never like he never punished me for WHAT

1729
01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:34,320
Speaker 20: i was, Doing like he just you, Know AND i

1730
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:37,400
Speaker 20: gotta respect that, because for the most, part in any other, coach,

1731
01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:39,639
Speaker 20: YES i would have been deep sitting on the, bench

1732
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:42,640
Speaker 20: and he was, like you're gonna have to you, know

1733
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:44,000
Speaker 20: if you don't want to go to, class you're gonna

1734
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 20: have to deal with that.

1735
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:45,880
Speaker 8: SUIT i ain't got nothing to do with.

1736
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:46,800
Speaker 5: Me you're gonna have to deal with that.

1737
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:47,880
Speaker 8: Suit you got an old point.

1738
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:49,120
Speaker 5: Two you're gonna have to deal with.

1739
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 1: That.

1740
01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:52,400
Speaker 2: No, no.

1741
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:58,400
Speaker 1: It was crazy two thousand and. One you guys go

1742
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:01,000
Speaker 1: to the N C DOUBLE A final and lose a

1743
01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 1: heartbreak of The duke talked to us about that, game

1744
01:20:03,479 --> 01:20:05,160
Speaker 1: Because i've heard you AND rj go back and forth

1745
01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:05,360
Speaker 1: on this.

1746
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:08,200
Speaker 8: Game, man he Let dunleavy man kick his ass up

1747
01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:09,759
Speaker 8: and down the. Court, man it's Dune, leavy.

1748
01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:11,479
Speaker 5: MAN i believe. IT i, BELIEVE i.

1749
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:12,880
Speaker 8: Believe what was so, funny it's Dune.

1750
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:13,920
Speaker 5: Leavy LIKE i had a.

1751
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:19,320
Speaker 8: COLD i had a Cold au roommates. Group it was,

1752
01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:21,640
Speaker 8: me Dun levy And Luke. Ritt now that was my

1753
01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:23,160
Speaker 8: that was my age.

1754
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:23,920
Speaker 1: At Luke ritt a.

1755
01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:25,000
Speaker 5: Game that's WHAT i.

1756
01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:26,920
Speaker 20: Said that was my little like when we when we

1757
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:28,640
Speaker 20: go to like the pump cansus, something that was that

1758
01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:30,280
Speaker 20: was my little that was my.

1759
01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:31,280
Speaker 5: Trio so.

1760
01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:38,400
Speaker 31: When you when you grew up with dun levy's your your,

1761
01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:40,920
Speaker 31: teammate and then you playing in The western name and

1762
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:43,760
Speaker 31: then you come ON, rj it's you, know first of,

1763
01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:45,320
Speaker 31: all he's been playing bad this whole.

1764
01:20:45,360 --> 01:20:46,800
Speaker 8: Tournament he should have got.

1765
01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:50,880
Speaker 20: Happiness on the other, side the super, athlete the man

1766
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:53,560
Speaker 20: hit five threes in the game night, off you know

1767
01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:55,120
Speaker 20: WHAT i, Mean, like come, on, Man.

1768
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:56,479
Speaker 8: SO i blame that on.

1769
01:20:56,600 --> 01:20:58,920
Speaker 20: HIM i, MEAN i was. LISTENING i was four for.

1770
01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:01,920
Speaker 20: Seventeen But i'm not going to play. Myself i'm not

1771
01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:05,760
Speaker 20: gonna you, know it's me Against duke at this. Point,

1772
01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:10,600
Speaker 20: becall you're just happy to be.

1773
01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:11,639
Speaker 1: Here, Yeah.

1774
01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:17,240
Speaker 8: But that's that's how we talk to each.

1775
01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:22,040
Speaker 20: Other, yeah come, on, man ain't help me. Out it was, like, yo,

1776
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:27,840
Speaker 20: bro you're four for four for twelve right, NOW i

1777
01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:31,759
Speaker 20: Got i'm going against five, players expects me against?

1778
01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:33,360
Speaker 5: Them who they have to?

1779
01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:34,160
Speaker 1: Do who's on the due?

1780
01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:38,040
Speaker 5: TEAM a bunch of sorry Players Duke yeah sorry as

1781
01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:43,360
Speaker 5: a bunch of, dukeies you, KNOW a bunch of.

1782
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:52,360
Speaker 20: Snobs they had a young young, boozer they had j Will, Duhan.

1783
01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:58,120
Speaker 5: Shane, battier a whole bunch of proper. Talking, mom that's

1784
01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:02,200
Speaker 5: a bunch of, squares all much improper.

1785
01:22:01,960 --> 01:22:05,000
Speaker 1: Talking about outside of that, game how Will how good

1786
01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:07,840
Speaker 1: Was Jason williams before he got in that motorcycle? Accident to?

1787
01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:17,360
Speaker 20: You, SEE i ask You i'm biased because our first

1788
01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:21,439
Speaker 20: introduction was the, turn you know WHAT i? Mean so

1789
01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:26,280
Speaker 20: the finals was so from there it was basically fuck him,

1790
01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:29,760
Speaker 20: right and then it became a double fuck him when

1791
01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:34,000
Speaker 20: he's coming into the. Draft, so you, KNOW i get

1792
01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:38,040
Speaker 20: the starting spot after my during my rookie, season So

1793
01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:41,760
Speaker 20: i'm coming into my sophomore year as the. Starter, well

1794
01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:45,400
Speaker 20: rumor hits that you, know if they get the number

1795
01:22:45,439 --> 01:22:47,760
Speaker 20: two picking the, draft they're going After Jason.

1796
01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:51,120
Speaker 5: Williams So i'm sitting here, like.

1797
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:52,960
Speaker 1: Wait hold, on, wait this Is golden Stated.

1798
01:22:53,040 --> 01:22:55,040
Speaker 20: State So i'm sitting, there you, know with with you,

1799
01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:57,240
Speaker 20: know with the oldest smith who was you, know the

1800
01:22:58,400 --> 01:22:59,479
Speaker 20: now he was the player of.

1801
01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:01,360
Speaker 8: Development So i'm, like wait a.

1802
01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:03,960
Speaker 20: Minute if they drave, him he still got to beat, me,

1803
01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:07,320
Speaker 20: Right and it was, like he's gonna be the number

1804
01:23:07,320 --> 01:23:09,800
Speaker 20: two pick in the. Draft you think they're going to

1805
01:23:09,880 --> 01:23:14,599
Speaker 20: start a second rounder over the number two. PICK i, said,

1806
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:17,200
Speaker 20: yeah he gonna have to beat it's my. Position he's

1807
01:23:17,240 --> 01:23:19,040
Speaker 20: had to he has to beat. Me he, said he

1808
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:23,240
Speaker 20: don't have to do. NOTHING i, said, oh oh that's

1809
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:24,000
Speaker 20: how You, oh that's how.

1810
01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:24,320
Speaker 5: You want to.

1811
01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:26,880
Speaker 20: Play So i'm lifting working on my, line like, YEAH

1812
01:23:26,920 --> 01:23:28,920
Speaker 20: i can't. WAIT i can't wait TILL i can't wait.

1813
01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:30,880
Speaker 20: DRAFT i hope y' all. DRAFTED i hope we get

1814
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:33,400
Speaker 20: the number two. Pick we end up getting the number three.

1815
01:23:33,439 --> 01:23:37,240
Speaker 20: Pick so uh so we end up getting Done. Levy

1816
01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:41,040
Speaker 20: but when we played the, bulls ah over, nah get him,

1817
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:43,439
Speaker 20: quick quick double. Double he asked the ta is he

1818
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:43,840
Speaker 20: mad at?

1819
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:46,679
Speaker 5: Me, Yes i'm.

1820
01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:49,920
Speaker 20: MAD i don't like, you but yeah he, was you

1821
01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:53,000
Speaker 20: know it was he wasn't explosive as D rose was

1822
01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:56,320
Speaker 20: but it was that type of that type of, shiftiness

1823
01:23:56,640 --> 01:23:58,479
Speaker 20: you know WHAT i, mean quick crossover and when he.

1824
01:23:58,520 --> 01:23:59,479
Speaker 5: Hit the, hole he hit the whole.

1825
01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:03,360
Speaker 8: Dunk and that was the sneaky part of it because

1826
01:24:03,400 --> 01:24:05,360
Speaker 8: he didn't look like he.

1827
01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:07,320
Speaker 1: Didn't guess, you he had a nice jumper. TIME i

1828
01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:09,320
Speaker 1: really liked. HIM i was JUST i. WAS i was

1829
01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:12,040
Speaker 1: sad that you, know obviously through that accident we didn't

1830
01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:13,840
Speaker 1: get a chance to see. Him but that's, funny your little,

1831
01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:14,680
Speaker 1: person it was a.

1832
01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:17,080
Speaker 20: Person it was so funny that he had no idea

1833
01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:20,320
Speaker 20: THAT i THAT i THAT i envied him because of,

1834
01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:22,479
Speaker 20: that because they were fighting for that number two.

1835
01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:35,920
Speaker 1: Spot college, freshman you get a chance to start and

1836
01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:38,240
Speaker 1: win a national. Championship we were talking about before we got.

1837
01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:40,439
Speaker 1: STARTED i, mean obviously the league is the, ultimate going the,

1838
01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:42,760
Speaker 1: prize BUT i had a blast in. College uh you

1839
01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:45,439
Speaker 1: talk to us about where'd you go to college?

1840
01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:45,639
Speaker 5: At?

1841
01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:52,160
Speaker 1: Uh you the dr backyard. University the streets are. Hard

1842
01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:54,960
Speaker 1: not as a freshman starting getting a chance to win

1843
01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:57,960
Speaker 1: a national championship At. Villanova talked to us about that.

1844
01:24:58,000 --> 01:25:01,360
Speaker 25: Experience it was that you it was Fun AND i

1845
01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:04,280
Speaker 25: say it was fun because it was it was up

1846
01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:08,080
Speaker 25: ups and. Downs like as a, Freshman, NAH i was

1847
01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:11,960
Speaker 25: An All american and so Like i'm, thinking Like i'm

1848
01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:14,720
Speaker 25: gonna go Like i'm gonna do my, thing and LIKE i,

1849
01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:16,600
Speaker 25: know obviously WHEN i got To, villanova it was like

1850
01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:20,320
Speaker 25: it was team. Oriented those dudes. Were he had a

1851
01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:21,880
Speaker 25: bunch of older. Dudes BUT i KNEW i had a

1852
01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:23,960
Speaker 25: chance to come in and, compete to start and. Everything

1853
01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:26,280
Speaker 25: So Coach wried didn't give me. ANYTHING i KNEW i

1854
01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:29,639
Speaker 25: was gonna have to compete for. Everything but coach writes

1855
01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:33,879
Speaker 25: another one who like everything was, mental like your mental approaches,

1856
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:37,519
Speaker 25: everything and so like he would come into practice some

1857
01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:39,160
Speaker 25: days and try and break you and see where you.

1858
01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:41,240
Speaker 25: Were and that was his, goal to see where we

1859
01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:43,040
Speaker 25: were as a. Team and with, ME i JUST i

1860
01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:45,560
Speaker 25: could not let that happen in my three. YEARS i was,

1861
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:47,000
Speaker 25: like this man would never be able.

1862
01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:48,600
Speaker 1: To do that do. That but.

1863
01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:52,519
Speaker 25: And we, fought, man we fought like. Hell we had

1864
01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:56,479
Speaker 25: like little things going on throughout the. Season but the

1865
01:25:56,560 --> 01:25:58,720
Speaker 25: one THING i realized that our practices were way harder

1866
01:25:58,760 --> 01:26:01,960
Speaker 25: than our. Games we're way. Harder so we got the game.

1867
01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:05,080
Speaker 25: Time we're, thinking these these dudes aren't playing as hard

1868
01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:07,960
Speaker 25: AS i was, like they may be more, talented but

1869
01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:08,880
Speaker 25: they're not going to outdog.

1870
01:26:09,040 --> 01:26:11,080
Speaker 5: Us so that's HOW i.

1871
01:26:11,160 --> 01:26:13,200
Speaker 25: Mean we obviously had different terminology and stuff like, that

1872
01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:15,920
Speaker 25: but that was basically what we. Did and So Coach

1873
01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:18,600
Speaker 25: wright had that mentality for, us and it was it

1874
01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:21,280
Speaker 25: was fun because we just knew the other dudes weren't

1875
01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:22,840
Speaker 25: going to just do the little things that we were gonna.

1876
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:25,960
Speaker 25: Do so if we made, shots we were. Winning but

1877
01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:28,280
Speaker 25: if things weren't going well for. Us but it's kind

1878
01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:31,760
Speaker 25: of kind of tough en, up and he implemented implemented

1879
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:33,400
Speaker 25: that into our minds and.

1880
01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:36,920
Speaker 5: Obviously every way.

1881
01:26:37,320 --> 01:26:40,200
Speaker 10: Is ironic, School LIKE i know he's, married but he's

1882
01:26:40,240 --> 01:26:40,679
Speaker 10: the ladies.

1883
01:26:40,720 --> 01:26:40,840
Speaker 22: Man.

1884
01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:42,760
Speaker 6: Like the ladies love him like you know who Love

1885
01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:47,720
Speaker 6: coach right ellen them that she Bro she called me

1886
01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:49,880
Speaker 6: and asked, me DO i know him? Really i'm, like,

1887
01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:51,200
Speaker 6: NAH i don't. KNOW i was just looking at a

1888
01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:53,760
Speaker 6: picture of, Him, like but she's. Not but she's not

1889
01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:56,519
Speaker 6: the first. One i've had other older ladies from When

1890
01:26:56,520 --> 01:26:58,000
Speaker 6: i'm working somewhere talk about.

1891
01:26:58,080 --> 01:27:00,400
Speaker 5: Him so like you must be man or. SOMETHING.

1892
01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:05,759
Speaker 25: Gqjq everyone everyone sees you nothing like. This everyone sees

1893
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:09,840
Speaker 25: That Jay wright when he walks into practice sometimes and he's,

1894
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:13,200
Speaker 25: like hair's a little messed, up and he got that

1895
01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:17,599
Speaker 25: scowl on his. Face his first name Is, Gerald gerald jailed,

1896
01:27:17,680 --> 01:27:20,000
Speaker 25: Right so he was all, right everyone else.

1897
01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:21,200
Speaker 5: Sees jay, right but we See gerald.

1898
01:27:21,280 --> 01:27:23,000
Speaker 8: Right you know you don't want to see cheryld.

1899
01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:26,360
Speaker 1: Right jerald's on some. Ship how did you learn how

1900
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:28,160
Speaker 1: to play off two feet? With as A villanova that

1901
01:27:28,280 --> 01:27:29,920
Speaker 1: come earlier very skilled off two?

1902
01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:30,840
Speaker 5: FEET i learned a.

1903
01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:34,240
Speaker 25: LITTLE i learned it with obviously work with my, dad

1904
01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:39,839
Speaker 25: BUT i think At villanova it was like, polished polished

1905
01:27:39,880 --> 01:27:42,160
Speaker 25: it because everyone did. It it was something we did

1906
01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:45,639
Speaker 25: every single, day like, kids you. Not that's how we started,

1907
01:27:45,680 --> 01:27:47,799
Speaker 25: Practice that's how we ended practice like. That we started

1908
01:27:48,200 --> 01:27:51,760
Speaker 25: just doing our footwork. Stuff and So Coach wright was,

1909
01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:53,200
Speaker 25: LIKE i want you guys to have this in your,

1910
01:27:53,240 --> 01:27:55,880
Speaker 25: repertoire knowing that you guys can play the other, way

1911
01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:57,360
Speaker 25: but you will always have this style of.

1912
01:27:57,439 --> 01:28:00,880
Speaker 5: Basketball and then it. Works oh, yeah it.

1913
01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:04,360
Speaker 25: Works and then when we won that my freshman, year

1914
01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:07,240
Speaker 25: coach said his line with, Us he's, like now THAT

1915
01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:09,280
Speaker 25: i know this ship, works and it's going to be

1916
01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:10,000
Speaker 25: hell for you guys next.

1917
01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:11,680
Speaker 5: Year, yeah all, right so we really.

1918
01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:16,240
Speaker 25: Gotta but he really implemented that to us because we

1919
01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:19,639
Speaker 25: knew that sometimes people are going to be, athletic more

1920
01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:22,280
Speaker 25: athletic than we. Are but like so about how smart

1921
01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:23,960
Speaker 25: we are having in our footwork and all.

1922
01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:27,720
Speaker 5: Themself so he, yeah he every.

1923
01:28:27,800 --> 01:28:31,360
Speaker 25: Day how many prosals on that team for twenty, sixteen yea,

1924
01:28:31,840 --> 01:28:38,400
Speaker 25: Me Michael Ryan. Archidiac you Know Josh, hart our big,

1925
01:28:38,479 --> 01:28:40,240
Speaker 25: Man Daniel cheffy played in the league for a little.

1926
01:28:40,280 --> 01:28:45,280
Speaker 25: Bit who red shirted that year Is Dante Stephen, James

1927
01:28:46,360 --> 01:28:47,720
Speaker 25: Eric pascal red shirt that year because he.

1928
01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:49,439
Speaker 8: Transferred so.

1929
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:54,720
Speaker 1: Six, Seven, yeah that's you guys get a chance to

1930
01:28:54,760 --> 01:28:58,080
Speaker 1: win another one twenty, eighteen so two time champ Also

1931
01:28:58,240 --> 01:29:00,639
Speaker 1: National player of The. Year you knew it was time

1932
01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:01,160
Speaker 1: to go after that.

1933
01:29:02,200 --> 01:29:06,160
Speaker 5: Change, YEAH i had no. Choice, also that's part about.

1934
01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:07,320
Speaker 5: It my mom like.

1935
01:29:07,400 --> 01:29:08,840
Speaker 1: THIS i graduated that year, too SO i.

1936
01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:12,960
Speaker 5: FINISHED i finished in three, years finishing, three finishing. Out but,

1937
01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:15,080
Speaker 5: yeah it was that was the.

1938
01:29:15,120 --> 01:29:17,720
Speaker 25: Plan LIKE i be thought about it my Sophomore but

1939
01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:19,280
Speaker 25: that's that's.

1940
01:29:19,720 --> 01:29:20,960
Speaker 1: Mom that's, work. MAN i love.

1941
01:29:21,040 --> 01:29:23,160
Speaker 25: THAT i can't give That dad, Said dad wanted me

1942
01:29:23,200 --> 01:29:25,240
Speaker 25: to do, it But mom was, like, nah on you make.

1943
01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:25,599
Speaker 5: Sure you did.

1944
01:29:25,640 --> 01:29:28,720
Speaker 6: It, YEAH i wonder how hard is that to graduate three? Years,

1945
01:29:28,840 --> 01:29:31,599
Speaker 6: yeah it took me four AND i still didn't forty

1946
01:29:31,640 --> 01:29:42,840
Speaker 6: five AND i even thought about. IT UV A university Of.

1947
01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:46,599
Speaker 6: Virginia you left. There you was three Time All, american

1948
01:29:46,680 --> 01:29:51,680
Speaker 6: finished At virginia's all time leading score and all time leading, assists.

1949
01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:56,519
Speaker 32: But both of those haven't broken since. Then how did

1950
01:29:56,600 --> 01:29:59,200
Speaker 32: it feel going TO? Uva and was it any other

1951
01:29:59,240 --> 01:30:00,280
Speaker 32: options Besides.

1952
01:30:01,400 --> 01:30:02,880
Speaker 5: YEAH i MEAN i was.

1953
01:30:02,920 --> 01:30:03,600
Speaker 18: RECRUITED i.

1954
01:30:03,760 --> 01:30:07,080
Speaker 33: WAS i was actually the number one high school player

1955
01:30:07,720 --> 01:30:09,840
Speaker 33: in the. COUNTRY i MEAN i don't EVEN i don't

1956
01:30:09,880 --> 01:30:12,760
Speaker 33: know how you do, that but they chose. ME i

1957
01:30:13,120 --> 01:30:17,840
Speaker 33: never ACTUALLY i went on maybe ONE aau circuit like.

1958
01:30:17,960 --> 01:30:20,160
Speaker 33: ONE i actually put participated in the very first.

1959
01:30:20,200 --> 01:30:22,320
Speaker 5: One SO.

1960
01:30:23,880 --> 01:30:26,439
Speaker 33: I WAS i was the high school player of the.

1961
01:30:26,520 --> 01:30:29,040
Speaker 33: Year SO i, mean every every school came after, me

1962
01:30:29,200 --> 01:30:34,800
Speaker 33: like like hundreds of. THEM i chose TO i chose

1963
01:30:34,880 --> 01:30:35,800
Speaker 33: to go To virginia for.

1964
01:30:37,320 --> 01:30:37,639
Speaker 8: For two.

1965
01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:40,800
Speaker 33: Reasons and one of, them, OBVIOUSLY i didn't want to

1966
01:30:40,840 --> 01:30:42,360
Speaker 33: go to a school that had already won.

1967
01:30:42,280 --> 01:30:44,800
Speaker 21: A national championship BECAUSE i wanted to be a part

1968
01:30:44,840 --> 01:30:44,960
Speaker 21: of that.

1969
01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:49,240
Speaker 33: Legacy and then the other thing WAS i, mean it's

1970
01:30:49,280 --> 01:30:52,720
Speaker 33: the strangest thing that attracts. Us BUT i didn't want

1971
01:30:52,720 --> 01:30:56,400
Speaker 33: to go to a school that had like traditional, dorms

1972
01:30:57,320 --> 01:31:00,880
Speaker 33: like you, know like you, go you got a roommate

1973
01:31:01,400 --> 01:31:02,960
Speaker 33: and then you got to take your bucket down the

1974
01:31:03,040 --> 01:31:08,280
Speaker 33: hall and go shower and like like that WAS i,

1975
01:31:08,360 --> 01:31:10,519
Speaker 33: MEAN i lived in the, Project SO i WANTED i

1976
01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:14,080
Speaker 33: wanted college to be a step, up, right, RIGHT i

1977
01:31:14,160 --> 01:31:15,719
Speaker 33: MEAN i had to share a room with my, sister

1978
01:31:16,320 --> 01:31:18,200
Speaker 33: and that's as far AS i wanted to go share

1979
01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:22,240
Speaker 33: room with. Someone and Then virginia had these dorms where

1980
01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:24,920
Speaker 33: there were four. Rooms you share the room with the,

1981
01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:28,680
Speaker 33: roommate and then you had you had two, showers and

1982
01:31:28,760 --> 01:31:32,439
Speaker 33: he had two, stalls and then you had like a common.

1983
01:31:32,520 --> 01:31:34,120
Speaker 21: Area so it was it was almost like an.

1984
01:31:34,160 --> 01:31:37,360
Speaker 33: Apartment and then the other schools THAT i the other

1985
01:31:37,400 --> 01:31:40,719
Speaker 33: school THAT i was very serious about Was Penn, state.

1986
01:31:41,560 --> 01:31:46,320
Speaker 5: And they had the old the all old school, dorms

1987
01:31:46,360 --> 01:31:46,559
Speaker 5: AND i.

1988
01:31:48,120 --> 01:31:48,840
Speaker 26: Really couldn't do.

1989
01:31:48,920 --> 01:31:51,000
Speaker 4: It so the non.

1990
01:31:50,960 --> 01:31:52,519
Speaker 5: Negotiable was the.

1991
01:31:52,640 --> 01:31:54,640
Speaker 18: Dorms SO i went TO i went To.

1992
01:31:54,760 --> 01:31:58,519
Speaker 1: Virginia that's a Crazy i've heard a lot of reasons

1993
01:31:58,560 --> 01:32:01,280
Speaker 1: why people chick. Schools i've never heard such like that

1994
01:32:01,400 --> 01:32:03,920
Speaker 1: with us. GOOD i feel you BECAUSE i was AT.

1995
01:32:03,960 --> 01:32:06,200
Speaker 1: Ucla they had a set up nice there AND i

1996
01:32:06,240 --> 01:32:08,320
Speaker 1: couldn't imagine like some schools they had like but in

1997
01:32:08,320 --> 01:32:10,360
Speaker 1: the summer school one TIME i had the situation where

1998
01:32:10,360 --> 01:32:11,920
Speaker 1: you had a roommate and you had to walk down

1999
01:32:11,960 --> 01:32:13,840
Speaker 1: the hall to. Shop like, HELL i left summer. SCHOOL

2000
01:32:15,960 --> 01:32:16,640
Speaker 1: i shouldn't do.

2001
01:32:16,720 --> 01:32:21,320
Speaker 6: It you ended up winning a national championship in twenty

2002
01:32:21,520 --> 01:32:24,360
Speaker 6: seventeen With South. Carolina do you feel like that made

2003
01:32:24,439 --> 01:32:26,080
Speaker 6: up of you not winning one while you was playing

2004
01:32:26,800 --> 01:32:28,639
Speaker 6: from you being so good AND i bringing one back

2005
01:32:28,640 --> 01:32:28,720
Speaker 6: to THE.

2006
01:32:28,760 --> 01:32:32,320
Speaker 33: Uva, yeah it actually did because it Took it took

2007
01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:34,840
Speaker 33: almost like twenty seven years and went one AND i

2008
01:32:34,920 --> 01:32:36,080
Speaker 33: had to get into coaching to do.

2009
01:32:36,240 --> 01:32:38,560
Speaker 34: That but it was it was so.

2010
01:32:38,760 --> 01:32:44,600
Speaker 5: Special it was so special that when we, WON i

2011
01:32:44,760 --> 01:32:45,439
Speaker 5: made sure that.

2012
01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:51,560
Speaker 33: Every like former player of mine BECAUSE i coached that

2013
01:32:51,640 --> 01:32:54,720
Speaker 33: temple And i'm coaching At South. Carolina when we, won

2014
01:32:54,840 --> 01:32:59,439
Speaker 33: every every player prior to twenty, SEVENTEEN i got them a,

2015
01:32:59,520 --> 01:33:05,760
Speaker 33: miniature a miniature national championship. TROPHY i got all of

2016
01:33:05,840 --> 01:33:10,560
Speaker 33: My virginia teammates miniature national championship, trophies all all of

2017
01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:13,720
Speaker 33: the people that coach with me At temple In South.

2018
01:33:13,800 --> 01:33:17,120
Speaker 5: CAROLINA i got the miniature national.

2019
01:33:16,920 --> 01:33:22,880
Speaker 33: Championship trophies because this was a dream far beyond twenty,

2020
01:33:23,000 --> 01:33:27,599
Speaker 33: seventeen AND i HAD i had teammates AND i had

2021
01:33:27,720 --> 01:33:30,000
Speaker 33: former players that believed in that dream.

2022
01:33:31,240 --> 01:33:32,600
Speaker 11: That we didn't get it.

2023
01:33:32,680 --> 01:33:34,639
Speaker 33: Done SO i WANTED i didn't want them to miss

2024
01:33:34,640 --> 01:33:36,560
Speaker 33: out on the opportunity of feeling. That and then on

2025
01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:38,360
Speaker 33: the back of, IT i put their name AND i just,

2026
01:33:38,439 --> 01:33:41,560
Speaker 33: said because of, you simply.

2027
01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:44,760
Speaker 1: That's really you don't hear stuff like that too. Often

2028
01:33:44,840 --> 01:33:45,160
Speaker 1: that's what's.

2029
01:33:45,240 --> 01:33:46,760
Speaker 8: UP i knew she was a real.

2030
01:33:46,840 --> 01:33:47,400
Speaker 5: ONE i told you.

2031
01:33:47,479 --> 01:33:50,439
Speaker 1: THAT i knew. That so tell me, this what was

2032
01:33:50,479 --> 01:33:52,080
Speaker 1: the feeling when you went back for Your jersey.

2033
01:33:52,160 --> 01:33:57,920
Speaker 5: RETIREMENT i don't even remember.

2034
01:33:58,000 --> 01:34:07,559
Speaker 33: THAT i really don't remember, that like LIKE i, mean really,

2035
01:34:07,920 --> 01:34:11,479
Speaker 33: HONESTLY i know that that. STUFF i mean there it's,

2036
01:34:11,640 --> 01:34:17,840
Speaker 33: nice BUT i mean it's, nice BUT i MEAN i

2037
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:20,840
Speaker 33: Wanted hall Of. Fame ask me About hall Of, fame,

2038
01:34:20,960 --> 01:34:23,120
Speaker 33: like ask me About hall of like that. Is And

2039
01:34:23,200 --> 01:34:26,120
Speaker 33: i'm not trying to take ANY i, Mean i'm, grateful,

2040
01:34:26,920 --> 01:34:31,640
Speaker 33: grateful but there are just things that are like near and,

2041
01:34:31,760 --> 01:34:34,560
Speaker 33: dear like You're i'm in The hall Of fame with

2042
01:34:35,120 --> 01:34:36,040
Speaker 33: the greatest of the.

2043
01:34:36,120 --> 01:34:39,400
Speaker 5: Great, yeah one of the.

2044
01:34:39,479 --> 01:34:42,439
Speaker 1: Best, yeah we'll talk about. It what's it, like what's

2045
01:34:42,479 --> 01:34:43,360
Speaker 1: it like being in The hall Of.

2046
01:34:43,439 --> 01:34:47,759
Speaker 33: Fame IT'S i mean it's, Cool LIKE i don't always

2047
01:34:47,840 --> 01:34:50,040
Speaker 33: go back to the, ceremonies but WHEN i do go,

2048
01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:53,040
Speaker 33: LIKE i feel, proud LIKE i feel LIKE i. Belong

2049
01:34:53,560 --> 01:34:58,120
Speaker 33: AND i, STARTED i started an autograph collection SO i.

2050
01:34:58,200 --> 01:35:01,080
Speaker 33: CAN i can get all the greats WHEN i go.

2051
01:35:01,240 --> 01:35:05,840
Speaker 33: There so it's it's pretty, cool like LIKE i, MEAN

2052
01:35:05,880 --> 01:35:10,200
Speaker 33: i got. IT i got a pretty extensive collection of all.

2053
01:35:10,400 --> 01:35:24,120
Speaker 1: Favors your biggest basketball influence growing, up whether it be

2054
01:35:24,200 --> 01:35:27,160
Speaker 1: male or, female biggest basketball?

2055
01:35:27,240 --> 01:35:28,679
Speaker 23: Influence mmmm.

2056
01:35:29,040 --> 01:35:30,760
Speaker 35: SEE i really didn't like basketball growing.

2057
01:35:30,840 --> 01:35:30,920
Speaker 2: Up.

2058
01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:33,320
Speaker 1: REALLY i didn't like to sweat WHAT i.

2059
01:35:33,560 --> 01:35:36,800
Speaker 8: Hate AND i still like a girly. Girl what AM? I,

2060
01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:38,200
Speaker 8: YES i, said, yes, yes.

2061
01:35:38,120 --> 01:35:40,720
Speaker 5: Yes still because she's still. BASKETBALL i can.

2062
01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:44,160
Speaker 35: TELL i hated basketball with a, passion like everything with.

2063
01:35:44,280 --> 01:35:46,400
Speaker 35: IT i hated the color of the. BASKETBALL i hated.

2064
01:35:46,439 --> 01:35:48,519
Speaker 1: EVERYTHING i was, like this is it's.

2065
01:35:48,600 --> 01:35:51,240
Speaker 35: DISGUSTING i love the guys that played, it you, know

2066
01:35:51,400 --> 01:35:52,840
Speaker 35: LIKE i was just, like oh, wait they're kind of,

2067
01:35:52,880 --> 01:35:57,519
Speaker 35: cute but playing it absolutely. Not but my father obviously

2068
01:35:57,520 --> 01:35:58,880
Speaker 35: played and he was, like you about to do something

2069
01:35:58,960 --> 01:36:01,080
Speaker 35: LIKE i. Didn't it was kind of like y'all didn't

2070
01:36:01,080 --> 01:36:02,960
Speaker 35: birth you for you just sit. Here SO i was,

2071
01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:05,120
Speaker 35: like all, right let me try. It so after WHEN

2072
01:36:05,120 --> 01:36:06,760
Speaker 35: i started getting, INVOLVED i LOVE i was a huge

2073
01:36:06,760 --> 01:36:07,240
Speaker 35: Blake griffin.

2074
01:36:07,280 --> 01:36:07,640
Speaker 5: FAN i.

2075
01:36:07,720 --> 01:36:08,800
Speaker 8: LOVED i just don't know what it.

2076
01:36:08,960 --> 01:36:10,759
Speaker 1: WAS i was a big Blake griffin.

2077
01:36:10,840 --> 01:36:14,519
Speaker 35: FAN i guess the fancy part of. It Obviously Kobe

2078
01:36:14,760 --> 01:36:17,160
Speaker 35: lebron like all of. Them and THEN i Met Don

2079
01:36:17,240 --> 01:36:21,479
Speaker 35: staley and Obviously candice was my growing up And Lisa,

2080
01:36:21,560 --> 01:36:23,200
Speaker 35: leslie even THOUGH i didn't get a chance to See lisa.

2081
01:36:23,240 --> 01:36:28,680
Speaker 35: Play but THEN i Met don and she influenced my

2082
01:36:28,720 --> 01:36:31,439
Speaker 35: whole career and it was like on something THAT i was, like,

2083
01:36:31,560 --> 01:36:34,040
Speaker 35: no this woman has really changed my. Life and that

2084
01:36:34,200 --> 01:36:36,240
Speaker 35: right there was all the, inspiration all the INFLUENCE i

2085
01:36:36,320 --> 01:36:38,479
Speaker 35: need to be me and, yeah she killed.

2086
01:36:38,280 --> 01:36:41,000
Speaker 5: It, Don, yeah.

2087
01:36:41,320 --> 01:36:45,240
Speaker 14: Yeh was there ever doubt in your mind that you

2088
01:36:45,320 --> 01:36:46,599
Speaker 14: were you were not going To South?

2089
01:36:46,640 --> 01:36:47,000
Speaker 8: Carolina?

2090
01:36:49,000 --> 01:36:51,800
Speaker 10: Yes, yes what else school you thinking about pulling up?

2091
01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:54,320
Speaker 8: TO i really wanted to go to The university Of Chapel.

2092
01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:57,840
Speaker 1: Hill, oh hold, up hold, up hold, on hold, On

2093
01:36:58,800 --> 01:37:02,479
Speaker 1: because the boys were. Cute, okay, okay wasn't even.

2094
01:37:05,040 --> 01:37:10,720
Speaker 10: Guy hell, oh y'all THOUGHT i was talking about?

2095
01:37:10,720 --> 01:37:14,719
Speaker 35: Basketball, absolutely, YEAH i was about to sign that dotted

2096
01:37:14,800 --> 01:37:16,360
Speaker 35: line on my official visits BECAUSE i was, like, oh,

2097
01:37:16,439 --> 01:37:17,760
Speaker 35: yeah see me.

2098
01:37:17,840 --> 01:37:21,600
Speaker 1: Here what who was not to say that that was

2099
01:37:21,640 --> 01:37:22,720
Speaker 1: who you was crushing? On but who?

2100
01:37:22,800 --> 01:37:22,840
Speaker 5: Was?

2101
01:37:22,880 --> 01:37:22,920
Speaker 1: What?

2102
01:37:23,040 --> 01:37:23,080
Speaker 5: What?

2103
01:37:23,200 --> 01:37:24,560
Speaker 1: What what kind of team was there at that?

2104
01:37:24,640 --> 01:37:27,679
Speaker 35: TIME i have no, idea, okay BUT i just knew

2105
01:37:27,680 --> 01:37:31,360
Speaker 35: WHEN i got to that, CAMPUS i was, Like i'm

2106
01:37:31,439 --> 01:37:34,479
Speaker 35: just right up my. Alley but, yeah that was the only.

2107
01:37:34,640 --> 01:37:37,120
Speaker 35: Time BUT i remember WHEN i had to call my,

2108
01:37:37,200 --> 01:37:39,600
Speaker 35: coaches call the coaches to SAY i wasn't. Coming my

2109
01:37:39,720 --> 01:37:40,840
Speaker 35: mom was, like, well if you don't go want to

2110
01:37:40,840 --> 01:37:43,120
Speaker 35: go To South, carolina you're gonna have to Call Dawn,

2111
01:37:43,200 --> 01:37:46,160
Speaker 35: staley a black woman, yourself and tell her that you're

2112
01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:48,640
Speaker 35: not wanting to be coached by. Her AND i was, like,

2113
01:37:49,320 --> 01:37:51,439
Speaker 35: Whoa when you put it like, that this basketball there

2114
01:37:51,520 --> 01:37:55,240
Speaker 35: might be some. Good so, Yeah South carolina was my strong,

2115
01:37:55,360 --> 01:37:56,080
Speaker 35: second And i'm so.

2116
01:37:56,200 --> 01:37:59,559
Speaker 6: Glad THAT i chose best. Choice you were the number

2117
01:37:59,600 --> 01:38:03,400
Speaker 6: one in the. Nation Don staley moved you to the

2118
01:38:03,479 --> 01:38:06,880
Speaker 6: bench after your first. Game she was pissed, off or

2119
01:38:06,920 --> 01:38:07,559
Speaker 6: did you deserve.

2120
01:38:07,640 --> 01:38:10,599
Speaker 8: IT i deserved. IT i know what she was doing.

2121
01:38:10,680 --> 01:38:13,240
Speaker 35: Too, YEAH i stuck it up my first, time like

2122
01:38:13,360 --> 01:38:15,920
Speaker 35: my first collegiate. Game it was so, bad like it was.

2123
01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:18,800
Speaker 35: Horrific SO i was, Like, okay maybe the bench is for.

2124
01:38:18,920 --> 01:38:21,840
Speaker 35: Me let me try, this give it a, try and then,

2125
01:38:21,960 --> 01:38:24,760
Speaker 35: yeah the rest of the rest is history of that.

2126
01:38:24,840 --> 01:38:28,000
Speaker 8: Point do you think that she sent you to the

2127
01:38:28,080 --> 01:38:30,120
Speaker 8: bench to wake you up?

2128
01:38:30,240 --> 01:38:34,559
Speaker 35: Mentally she really didn't start getting to me mentally until

2129
01:38:34,600 --> 01:38:36,720
Speaker 35: like sophomore junior. Years she started from mental. Games but

2130
01:38:36,880 --> 01:38:39,040
Speaker 35: LIKE i think she knew like that was just gonna

2131
01:38:39,040 --> 01:38:39,200
Speaker 35: be the.

2132
01:38:39,200 --> 01:38:39,720
Speaker 8: Best fit for.

2133
01:38:39,840 --> 01:38:43,040
Speaker 34: Me LIKE i needed time to see, that see the, Game.

2134
01:38:42,960 --> 01:38:44,519
Speaker 35: LIKE i couldn't just throw My she couldn't throw me

2135
01:38:44,600 --> 01:38:45,920
Speaker 35: out there because the game was too.

2136
01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:46,200
Speaker 8: Quick.

2137
01:38:47,479 --> 01:38:49,519
Speaker 35: Problem, YEAH i would have never probably been the same

2138
01:38:49,520 --> 01:38:50,920
Speaker 35: player if she would have just let me be out.

2139
01:38:50,960 --> 01:38:52,760
Speaker 35: There so, YEAH i think she just kind of pulled

2140
01:38:52,800 --> 01:38:54,160
Speaker 35: me because she was, like, nah you just need to

2141
01:38:54,240 --> 01:38:57,160
Speaker 35: see it and then you can kill them now.

2142
01:38:58,560 --> 01:39:01,320
Speaker 1: Right look at. You what was it like when you

2143
01:39:01,400 --> 01:39:06,599
Speaker 1: first met? Her, ooh it was just like, coach they keep,

2144
01:39:06,680 --> 01:39:07,080
Speaker 1: it keeps it.

2145
01:39:07,200 --> 01:39:09,360
Speaker 35: Real so it's just like honesty and like she just

2146
01:39:09,439 --> 01:39:11,680
Speaker 35: really Feels she felt like my second mother then and

2147
01:39:11,720 --> 01:39:13,640
Speaker 35: now she still feels like my second mom. Now so

2148
01:39:13,840 --> 01:39:15,800
Speaker 35: like she was in gyms WHEN i wouldn't have been

2149
01:39:15,800 --> 01:39:17,800
Speaker 35: playing BECAUSE i was terrible at, basketball but she was.

2150
01:39:17,840 --> 01:39:18,880
Speaker 8: There like the loyalty she.

2151
01:39:18,960 --> 01:39:22,000
Speaker 35: SHOWED i was, like, nah LIKE i gotta you got something,

2152
01:39:22,040 --> 01:39:23,960
Speaker 35: else like want TO i want to? Grow, YEAH i

2153
01:39:24,040 --> 01:39:25,519
Speaker 35: need to, grow and that you're the best.

2154
01:39:26,760 --> 01:39:30,000
Speaker 6: Basketball we know she's a big part of your career

2155
01:39:30,040 --> 01:39:31,719
Speaker 6: and your, success but what does she teach you about?

2156
01:39:31,760 --> 01:39:36,320
Speaker 35: Life be your pro and be disciplined in everything that you,

2157
01:39:36,439 --> 01:39:39,679
Speaker 35: do like don't take anything, lightly don't take anything, Off

2158
01:39:39,960 --> 01:39:42,519
Speaker 35: like always be a pro the way you carry yourself

2159
01:39:42,520 --> 01:39:44,920
Speaker 35: because you never know who's. Looking but just being in

2160
01:39:45,040 --> 01:39:47,400
Speaker 35: spaces that you feel, safe but never lose. YOURSELF i

2161
01:39:47,479 --> 01:39:48,640
Speaker 35: think that was the biggest thing with.

2162
01:39:48,720 --> 01:39:49,720
Speaker 10: Her she let me be.

2163
01:39:49,920 --> 01:39:52,080
Speaker 35: Me Like it'll be days WHERE i would come into

2164
01:39:52,120 --> 01:39:54,880
Speaker 35: her office crying because my boyfriend takes me back and she's, like,

2165
01:39:55,720 --> 01:39:57,760
Speaker 35: like take it, off like it's a. Lot so she

2166
01:39:57,920 --> 01:39:59,920
Speaker 35: just allowed me to be. Human AND i think you

2167
01:40:00,080 --> 01:40:01,879
Speaker 35: see that also in her when she's in the, community

2168
01:40:01,920 --> 01:40:04,479
Speaker 35: when she's talking and she's tweeting with, fans like you

2169
01:40:04,600 --> 01:40:06,920
Speaker 35: never lose sight of just getting into the celebrity, vibe

2170
01:40:06,920 --> 01:40:08,639
Speaker 35: but always stay humble and stay within.

2171
01:40:08,760 --> 01:40:10,320
Speaker 8: Yourself so she always taught.

2172
01:40:10,360 --> 01:40:12,960
Speaker 6: Us we spoke about it a little, bit but let's

2173
01:40:13,080 --> 01:40:15,599
Speaker 6: touch on it and on its. Own how many people

2174
01:40:17,000 --> 01:40:19,320
Speaker 6: seven years, old how many people get this and you

2175
01:40:19,439 --> 01:40:23,080
Speaker 6: have your own? Statue, yeah that just take us through that.

2176
01:40:23,240 --> 01:40:28,439
Speaker 1: Day you go buy and clean it. Off, Ever, yeah Dust.

2177
01:40:28,520 --> 01:40:34,960
Speaker 35: On it was in a crazy experience because they told

2178
01:40:35,000 --> 01:40:36,720
Speaker 35: me at, graduation BUT i thought it was a.

2179
01:40:36,840 --> 01:40:38,800
Speaker 8: Joke LIKE i was on my phone during, graduation all

2180
01:40:38,840 --> 01:40:40,240
Speaker 8: these cameras pulled up AND i was, like what are

2181
01:40:40,240 --> 01:40:40,680
Speaker 8: you go going?

2182
01:40:40,760 --> 01:40:44,200
Speaker 35: On and so that's when the president of the school was, like,

2183
01:40:44,280 --> 01:40:45,920
Speaker 35: yeah we want to give agent. Statue SO i thought

2184
01:40:45,920 --> 01:40:47,519
Speaker 35: it was a. Joke i'm starting to laugh like, whatever

2185
01:40:47,640 --> 01:40:49,880
Speaker 35: like y'all not because people always, say, oh they need a.

2186
01:40:49,920 --> 01:40:51,400
Speaker 23: Statue So i'm.

2187
01:40:51,479 --> 01:40:53,320
Speaker 35: Chilling and then that's when it really hit. Me the

2188
01:40:53,720 --> 01:40:57,200
Speaker 35: lady that sculpt sculpted. Me she Did Michael jordan's as,

2189
01:40:57,240 --> 01:40:57,920
Speaker 35: well and.

2190
01:40:58,000 --> 01:40:58,720
Speaker 5: SO i had to go to.

2191
01:41:00,600 --> 01:41:03,240
Speaker 1: All, right, yeah and so they came and.

2192
01:41:04,760 --> 01:41:08,240
Speaker 35: Right when she she name dropped when she came to

2193
01:41:08,320 --> 01:41:09,920
Speaker 35: my face and like not my. Face she came To

2194
01:41:10,040 --> 01:41:13,280
Speaker 35: chicago and she literally scaled my whole, face like my,

2195
01:41:13,360 --> 01:41:15,600
Speaker 35: teeth LIKE i had like all these things around my.

2196
01:41:15,680 --> 01:41:17,680
Speaker 10: Face she's, like, YEAH i had to do this FOR.

2197
01:41:17,880 --> 01:41:20,400
Speaker 35: Mj AND i was, like, girl you can't just say,

2198
01:41:20,479 --> 01:41:25,080
Speaker 35: that like's nothing, Right, like, No you're in good. Hands

2199
01:41:25,120 --> 01:41:26,320
Speaker 35: and THEN i went AND i saw. IT i was,

2200
01:41:26,320 --> 01:41:28,080
Speaker 35: like oh my, god my legs are, Nice LIKE i like,

2201
01:41:28,160 --> 01:41:28,640
Speaker 35: this this is.

2202
01:41:28,760 --> 01:41:30,000
Speaker 16: Cute so.

2203
01:41:30,120 --> 01:41:32,800
Speaker 35: Yeah then FINALLY i watch a lot of scary, movies

2204
01:41:32,840 --> 01:41:34,280
Speaker 35: SO i was, LIKE i hope nobody trying to take

2205
01:41:34,320 --> 01:41:35,600
Speaker 35: me out When i'm up here trying to say my.

2206
01:41:35,760 --> 01:41:38,720
Speaker 35: SPEECH i got nervous, there but, no AND i saw.

2207
01:41:38,760 --> 01:41:41,400
Speaker 35: It it was truly amazing and like you, know like you,

2208
01:41:41,479 --> 01:41:44,240
Speaker 35: said Like i'm young and to have something like that

2209
01:41:44,439 --> 01:41:44,600
Speaker 35: to be.

2210
01:41:44,680 --> 01:41:45,559
Speaker 10: Immortalized it's.

2211
01:41:45,600 --> 01:41:58,840
Speaker 16: Crazy when you hear the Name Dane, smith what comes to.

2212
01:41:58,920 --> 01:42:05,280
Speaker 5: Mind conscious. Brother he was a conscious. Man you.

2213
01:42:05,360 --> 01:42:10,640
Speaker 17: Know he really used his platform too to enroll you

2214
01:42:10,960 --> 01:42:14,840
Speaker 17: into what was possible in your. Life he developed good,

2215
01:42:14,880 --> 01:42:18,599
Speaker 17: citizens and you see that not With michael And sam

2216
01:42:18,720 --> 01:42:21,240
Speaker 17: AND i And. Vince you see it with all his

2217
01:42:21,400 --> 01:42:25,599
Speaker 17: lettermen who have done. Well he took us to play

2218
01:42:27,280 --> 01:42:32,479
Speaker 17: a game With North Carolina State. Prison we went in

2219
01:42:32,600 --> 01:42:36,920
Speaker 17: there and this was in eighty and you, KNOW.

2220
01:42:38,439 --> 01:42:38,840
Speaker 5: I wasn't.

2221
01:42:38,880 --> 01:42:44,519
Speaker 17: COMFORTABLE i, mean they were looking at us in different

2222
01:42:44,520 --> 01:42:45,920
Speaker 17: ways than.

2223
01:42:46,040 --> 01:42:47,519
Speaker 5: Basketball but he.

2224
01:42:48,000 --> 01:42:48,519
Speaker 1: Was he.

2225
01:42:48,680 --> 01:42:53,080
Speaker 17: Was he's that kind of, guy you, know he's it

2226
01:42:53,080 --> 01:42:55,840
Speaker 17: didn't matter if you Were Michael jordan Or michael The Tower.

2227
01:42:55,960 --> 01:42:58,880
Speaker 17: Boy so he used his platform very well to kind

2228
01:42:58,920 --> 01:43:01,800
Speaker 17: of prep you for for life and keep you.

2229
01:43:01,920 --> 01:43:08,000
Speaker 16: Humble did he make you feel not only, wanted but

2230
01:43:08,120 --> 01:43:09,120
Speaker 16: like family and your recruiting.

2231
01:43:09,200 --> 01:43:14,640
Speaker 17: Process he's very, honest so you, know and a lot

2232
01:43:14,680 --> 01:43:16,280
Speaker 17: of people don't believe it's WHEN i tell, him but

2233
01:43:16,360 --> 01:43:19,519
Speaker 17: he was strictly by the. BOOK i mean you can ASK.

2234
01:43:19,680 --> 01:43:23,920
Speaker 17: Mj sam. Anybody there was no you, know money or anything.

2235
01:43:24,040 --> 01:43:27,400
Speaker 17: Involved but he'd come in and tell your. Parents he

2236
01:43:27,479 --> 01:43:29,960
Speaker 17: got to know your parents really. Well he promised you three.

2237
01:43:30,040 --> 01:43:33,800
Speaker 17: Things she's, LIKE i promise you son and. Graduated if

2238
01:43:33,840 --> 01:43:37,600
Speaker 17: he stayed four, years promise you that you, know.

2239
01:43:40,040 --> 01:43:40,439
Speaker 5: He'll go to.

2240
01:43:40,520 --> 01:43:46,200
Speaker 17: Class and if he's a, freshman we require you to

2241
01:43:46,240 --> 01:43:52,800
Speaker 17: go to the church your first. Semester and my mom

2242
01:43:52,880 --> 01:43:54,880
Speaker 17: was sitting over, there AND i, KNOW i know when

2243
01:43:54,920 --> 01:43:57,080
Speaker 17: she heard, that she was, like, damn that's where he's.

2244
01:43:57,160 --> 01:44:02,400
Speaker 17: Going but he was really honest AND i had always

2245
01:44:02,560 --> 01:44:08,439
Speaker 17: loved him since he Bought Charlie scott was the first

2246
01:44:08,600 --> 01:44:12,919
Speaker 17: BLACK acc player to come to THE, acc And Coach smith.

2247
01:44:12,760 --> 01:44:13,160
Speaker 5: Took a lot of.

2248
01:44:13,240 --> 01:44:16,240
Speaker 17: Heat they tried to fire, Him they hung him in

2249
01:44:16,439 --> 01:44:19,280
Speaker 17: F g after a, game but he used to take

2250
01:44:19,360 --> 01:44:23,280
Speaker 17: stands like. That Took Charlie scott the church with, him

2251
01:44:23,400 --> 01:44:26,280
Speaker 17: took him to restaurants in sixty seven.

2252
01:44:27,479 --> 01:44:31,800
Speaker 5: Where blacks weren't still. Allowed SO i knew about him.

2253
01:44:31,920 --> 01:44:34,400
Speaker 17: Early AND i got to go to basketball camp W

2254
01:44:34,520 --> 01:44:36,599
Speaker 17: i fell in love with guys Like Phil, Ford Walter,

2255
01:44:36,760 --> 01:44:40,240
Speaker 17: davis guys like, that you. Know so you, Know mitch

2256
01:44:40,320 --> 01:44:42,720
Speaker 17: Cup check was, there SO i. WAS i was kind

2257
01:44:42,760 --> 01:44:46,880
Speaker 17: of tied, in locked in from like fifteen years.

2258
01:44:46,920 --> 01:44:51,040
Speaker 6: Old is it true that he left EVERY unc players

2259
01:44:51,200 --> 01:44:53,160
Speaker 6: money for a stake diner when he passed two hundred?

2260
01:44:53,160 --> 01:44:57,600
Speaker 17: Dollars, yeah every letterman that played for, Him AND i

2261
01:44:57,680 --> 01:44:59,120
Speaker 17: think he was like sticking it to THE.

2262
01:44:59,240 --> 01:45:02,360
Speaker 5: Ncaa, YEAH i take care of my.

2263
01:45:02,439 --> 01:45:04,519
Speaker 17: Player, yeah find Out i'm gonna do, something you're not

2264
01:45:04,600 --> 01:45:05,679
Speaker 17: gonna be to do anything about.

2265
01:45:05,720 --> 01:45:08,719
Speaker 5: It but, uh and then you know he's the write personal.

2266
01:45:08,800 --> 01:45:13,280
Speaker 17: Notes he'd have his secretary type him up and then

2267
01:45:14,160 --> 01:45:16,760
Speaker 17: at the bottom it would always be ps and he

2268
01:45:16,840 --> 01:45:18,040
Speaker 17: would write it a few.

2269
01:45:18,160 --> 01:45:21,720
Speaker 5: Lines so he had he had special special touches.

2270
01:45:21,439 --> 01:45:24,800
Speaker 17: Like that and a memory like you wouldn't, believe which

2271
01:45:24,920 --> 01:45:28,240
Speaker 17: was which was sad to see him have dementia at

2272
01:45:28,280 --> 01:45:28,760
Speaker 17: the end of his.

2273
01:45:28,800 --> 01:45:31,080
Speaker 5: Life but, yeah he had a memory that it was like.

2274
01:45:31,400 --> 01:45:37,200
Speaker 15: Amazing everybody talk About MJ's championship shot nineteen eight three

2275
01:45:37,240 --> 01:45:41,160
Speaker 15: Against georgetown the, championship but you had twenty eight thirteenth

2276
01:45:41,240 --> 01:45:41,920
Speaker 15: or seventeen from the.

2277
01:45:42,000 --> 01:45:44,479
Speaker 5: Field why don't talk about? That it was on your.

2278
01:45:44,520 --> 01:45:45,720
Speaker 5: Shoulders but what's your take on?

2279
01:45:45,800 --> 01:45:50,519
Speaker 17: That, well you, Did Joe. John you, know if you

2280
01:45:50,640 --> 01:45:56,639
Speaker 17: watch the The Michael jordan, documentary it was A chicago

2281
01:45:56,880 --> 01:46:01,000
Speaker 17: not the hair. MOVIE i had a statement With Michael.

2282
01:46:01,120 --> 01:46:05,120
Speaker 17: Kane uh To, CAROLINE i tell EVERYBODY i WAS i

2283
01:46:05,280 --> 01:46:08,599
Speaker 17: was better Than. Michael, yeah, yeah you know for about three.

2284
01:46:08,680 --> 01:46:16,439
Speaker 17: Weeks for about three, weeks, MAN i knew he had.

2285
01:46:16,520 --> 01:46:20,439
Speaker 5: It when you're an athlete and you guys are both.

2286
01:46:20,520 --> 01:46:22,760
Speaker 5: TOUGH i watched. YOU i watched your whole. Career you,

2287
01:46:22,840 --> 01:46:23,160
Speaker 5: know when.

2288
01:46:23,080 --> 01:46:26,680
Speaker 17: You're when you're tough and you're not going back down from,

2289
01:46:26,760 --> 01:46:30,639
Speaker 17: anybody and you're gonna take him. On but then when

2290
01:46:30,680 --> 01:46:35,639
Speaker 17: somebody comes along that this the fucking tougher than, you they're,

2291
01:46:35,720 --> 01:46:39,439
Speaker 17: like he was an. Assassin and he bullied. Me he

2292
01:46:39,600 --> 01:46:42,200
Speaker 17: because you, know he's he sought out the best and.

2293
01:46:42,320 --> 01:46:44,680
Speaker 17: Everything if you were the best backgamming player in the,

2294
01:46:44,760 --> 01:46:46,920
Speaker 17: dorm he wanted to. Know if you were the best card,

2295
01:46:46,960 --> 01:46:49,799
Speaker 17: player he wanted to find. Out and he took everything

2296
01:46:50,520 --> 01:46:53,920
Speaker 17: as if he was losing a game. Seven losing just

2297
01:46:54,120 --> 01:46:57,000
Speaker 17: WASN'T i didn't care what it. Was he'd break a

2298
01:46:57,080 --> 01:46:59,640
Speaker 17: table if he lost the Backgam and so he sought me,

2299
01:46:59,760 --> 01:47:01,800
Speaker 17: out and you, know we practiced two, hours two and

2300
01:47:01,840 --> 01:47:04,320
Speaker 17: a half. Hours you guys know how some college. Practice

2301
01:47:04,320 --> 01:47:05,280
Speaker 17: are you ready to get out of?

2302
01:47:05,320 --> 01:47:06,280
Speaker 5: There and he.

2303
01:47:06,320 --> 01:47:08,280
Speaker 17: Would i'd be walking off the court and he, pushed

2304
01:47:08,360 --> 01:47:10,400
Speaker 17: where you're, going, young young, Fella that's what he called.

2305
01:47:10,439 --> 01:47:13,480
Speaker 16: Me so you were junior when he was juniors freshman.

2306
01:47:13,240 --> 01:47:16,000
Speaker 17: Year and so, yeah you, know he wanted to know

2307
01:47:17,120 --> 01:47:21,160
Speaker 17: and uh and throughout that, year even THOUGH i, was you, KNOW,

2308
01:47:21,479 --> 01:47:26,519
Speaker 17: mvp there were some games Against virginia in THE acc

2309
01:47:26,680 --> 01:47:29,479
Speaker 17: tournament Where michael kept us in the, game some big

2310
01:47:29,560 --> 01:47:32,720
Speaker 17: shots against you, Know Ralph sampson and those. Guys and

2311
01:47:32,800 --> 01:47:38,320
Speaker 17: then Against, georgetown we only had really five players Against

2312
01:47:38,400 --> 01:47:41,639
Speaker 17: Patrick ewan and my home boys sleeping floor and they were. Tough,

2313
01:47:42,520 --> 01:47:46,120
Speaker 17: uh But michael hit some big shots and kept us,

2314
01:47:46,200 --> 01:47:48,600
Speaker 17: in you. KNOW i and then at the end of the,

2315
01:47:48,680 --> 01:47:53,360
Speaker 17: Game Coach smith wanted me to be like a, decoy you.

2316
01:47:53,400 --> 01:47:55,439
Speaker 17: Know you know we had we had lost To indiana

2317
01:47:55,520 --> 01:47:59,280
Speaker 17: the year Before Isaiah thomas And Bobby, knight so getting

2318
01:47:59,400 --> 01:48:03,120
Speaker 17: back was was special AND i wanted to win or.

2319
01:48:03,280 --> 01:48:06,720
Speaker 5: Lose he'd been punching On. MIKE i, BEAT i.

2320
01:48:06,840 --> 01:48:11,240
Speaker 17: BEAT i would always Beat mike Doesn't, yeah you, know

2321
01:48:11,439 --> 01:48:13,360
Speaker 17: zeke zekes opinionated.

2322
01:48:14,040 --> 01:48:18,519
Speaker 5: Alone, man you had a good. Career it was.

2323
01:48:18,560 --> 01:48:23,400
Speaker 17: Awesome uh but, yeah, man uh you, know because you

2324
01:48:23,439 --> 01:48:25,920
Speaker 17: know they expected me, to you, know to take the.

2325
01:48:26,000 --> 01:48:28,240
Speaker 17: Shot you, know we run a high low against their.

2326
01:48:28,360 --> 01:48:32,080
Speaker 17: Zohn Patrick ewhan was a, beast AND i wanted to

2327
01:48:32,439 --> 01:48:35,840
Speaker 17: win and. Lose Because michael was a. FRESHMAN i didn't you,

2328
01:48:35,840 --> 01:48:37,800
Speaker 17: KNOW i didn't know if he had it in his,

2329
01:48:37,960 --> 01:48:41,400
Speaker 17: veins but, UH i was to flash in the. Mill

2330
01:48:41,520 --> 01:48:43,280
Speaker 17: Coach smith didn't call it up like, that but he

2331
01:48:43,360 --> 01:48:46,160
Speaker 17: knew it would work out that. Way we ran our offense,

2332
01:48:46,280 --> 01:48:50,519
Speaker 17: properly so we ran the high, Low sam went down.

2333
01:48:50,600 --> 01:48:55,519
Speaker 17: LOW i flashed in and three guys collapsed And michael

2334
01:48:55,600 --> 01:48:58,080
Speaker 17: was wide. Open now he he didn't draw it up like.

2335
01:48:58,160 --> 01:49:01,680
Speaker 17: That but at the end of the time, out you,

2336
01:49:01,760 --> 01:49:03,640
Speaker 17: know when you're walking back on the, Court michael was

2337
01:49:03,640 --> 01:49:05,639
Speaker 17: one of the last. Guys AND i Heard Coach smith

2338
01:49:05,760 --> 01:49:07,559
Speaker 17: kind of if you get, it if you get it clean,

2339
01:49:07,640 --> 01:49:08,240
Speaker 17: looking knock.

2340
01:49:08,160 --> 01:49:09,400
Speaker 1: At, it you, know you know.

2341
01:49:09,439 --> 01:49:13,639
Speaker 17: What so and, Yeah se, knew he Knew michael had

2342
01:49:13,680 --> 01:49:16,680
Speaker 17: it in his, veins and, uh, yeah that was the.

2343
01:49:16,840 --> 01:49:20,160
Speaker 17: Beginning we called Him, Mike Mike.

2344
01:49:20,280 --> 01:49:22,920
Speaker 16: Jordan kenny said he had no handle when he came

2345
01:49:22,960 --> 01:49:23,680
Speaker 16: to when he first got.

2346
01:49:23,760 --> 01:49:27,360
Speaker 5: There no, handles, no not, Well kenny had.

2347
01:49:27,439 --> 01:49:27,599
Speaker 16: Him.

2348
01:49:28,479 --> 01:49:31,439
Speaker 17: Uh AFTER i, Left kenny still mad at me BECAUSE

2349
01:49:31,520 --> 01:49:33,519
Speaker 17: i Recruited. Kenny he wanted to play with me AND

2350
01:49:33,600 --> 01:49:34,599
Speaker 17: i left after my junior.

2351
01:49:34,680 --> 01:49:36,040
Speaker 5: Year he And Brad.

2352
01:49:36,120 --> 01:49:39,320
Speaker 17: Dougherty but, yeah he he didn't have a lot of

2353
01:49:39,560 --> 01:49:42,200
Speaker 17: fundamentals when he. CAME i think he was a better

2354
01:49:42,240 --> 01:49:45,920
Speaker 17: baseball player coming out of high. School and you, know

2355
01:49:46,000 --> 01:49:48,000
Speaker 17: you've heard the story of him getting cut from his

2356
01:49:48,120 --> 01:49:51,160
Speaker 17: high school team, once so he had a lot to work.

2357
01:49:51,240 --> 01:49:55,439
Speaker 5: On he had raw, talent though raw. Talent but when

2358
01:49:55,520 --> 01:49:56,120
Speaker 5: he got the.

2359
01:49:56,200 --> 01:50:00,519
Speaker 17: Fundamentals down after his freshman, year and he worked at

2360
01:50:00,600 --> 01:50:04,240
Speaker 17: it because we had drill after drills after. Drills whatever

2361
01:50:04,360 --> 01:50:07,519
Speaker 17: his weakness, was he was willing to work on, it

2362
01:50:07,880 --> 01:50:12,080
Speaker 17: and SO i can't remember him having UH i, mean

2363
01:50:12,760 --> 01:50:16,000
Speaker 17: back then we ran four. Corners there wasn't a twenty

2364
01:50:16,080 --> 01:50:18,800
Speaker 17: four second shot clock his freshman, year so he was

2365
01:50:18,880 --> 01:50:21,720
Speaker 17: okay in, that BUT i don't remember him ever having

2366
01:50:21,840 --> 01:50:25,200
Speaker 17: the ball handling skills that our guard has to POSSESS

2367
01:50:26,680 --> 01:50:30,960
Speaker 17: u N C u N c summer. Runs, yeah how was?

2368
01:50:31,000 --> 01:50:36,000
Speaker 17: That Lawrence taylor played in some of those football players

2369
01:50:36,720 --> 01:50:40,479
Speaker 17: And wool And Jim la was. Nice, yeah Well Lorene

2370
01:50:40,520 --> 01:50:42,360
Speaker 17: taylor was a. Beast you get the, rebound you just

2371
01:50:42,479 --> 01:50:45,760
Speaker 17: move out of the. Way, yeah he was, coming he was,

2372
01:50:45,840 --> 01:50:47,920
Speaker 17: coming but, yeah to pick up games because a lot

2373
01:50:47,960 --> 01:50:49,000
Speaker 17: of guys From duke came.

2374
01:50:49,080 --> 01:50:51,479
Speaker 5: Over that's seven miles. Apart we.

2375
01:50:51,680 --> 01:50:53,639
Speaker 1: Go oh, yeah, yeah.

2376
01:50:55,160 --> 01:50:59,320
Speaker 17: And Wooland jim but they were like they were like iconic.

2377
01:50:59,439 --> 01:51:02,680
Speaker 17: Games you, know you guys probably faded some of the

2378
01:51:03,080 --> 01:51:05,280
Speaker 17: games over AT U c L. A you, know you

2379
01:51:05,320 --> 01:51:07,599
Speaker 17: don't want to you don't want to. Lose so, yeah

2380
01:51:07,680 --> 01:51:09,960
Speaker 17: there was two courts you always had when THE lt,

2381
01:51:10,160 --> 01:51:13,800
Speaker 17: came he was for a good. Player, uh but, yeah

2382
01:51:13,840 --> 01:51:14,160
Speaker 17: he was a.

2383
01:51:14,280 --> 01:51:26,560
Speaker 1: Beast you ended up Choosing North. Carolina who else was

2384
01:51:26,600 --> 01:51:28,360
Speaker 1: in the mix for Colleges for?

2385
01:51:28,479 --> 01:51:32,960
Speaker 7: COLLEGE i Was duke and at school From durham we

2386
01:51:33,040 --> 01:51:36,280
Speaker 7: don't say that. Name And virginia those are SCHOOLS i.

2387
01:51:36,439 --> 01:51:38,960
Speaker 7: Visited BUT i always want to play THE Acc at that,

2388
01:51:39,080 --> 01:51:41,040
Speaker 7: time that was when the conference was to, me THE

2389
01:51:41,120 --> 01:51:41,960
Speaker 7: acc had the best.

2390
01:51:42,000 --> 01:51:43,280
Speaker 8: CONFERENCE i wanted to play against the.

2391
01:51:43,320 --> 01:51:45,760
Speaker 7: Best BUT i Chose North carolina because WHEN i went

2392
01:51:45,800 --> 01:51:48,960
Speaker 7: to the practice AND i Saw Sam, Perkins Brad, Dougherty Michael,

2393
01:51:49,040 --> 01:51:52,280
Speaker 7: JORDANS i looked at it AND i, SAID i don't

2394
01:51:52,320 --> 01:51:52,599
Speaker 7: know IF.

2395
01:51:52,520 --> 01:51:54,920
Speaker 8: I could play. HERE i was a little.

2396
01:51:55,000 --> 01:51:57,599
Speaker 7: NERVOUS i had never seen seven footage like they. Had

2397
01:51:57,680 --> 01:52:00,120
Speaker 7: they had they Had tim McDonald Wall americans the.

2398
01:52:00,160 --> 01:52:00,360
Speaker 5: Team.

2399
01:52:00,400 --> 01:52:02,800
Speaker 8: MAN i was, like, DAMN i don't know.

2400
01:52:02,800 --> 01:52:04,519
Speaker 7: IF i could play. HERE i, SAID i KNOW i

2401
01:52:04,560 --> 01:52:06,280
Speaker 7: could go To duke and. PLAY i could play It

2402
01:52:06,640 --> 01:52:08,720
Speaker 7: virginia AND i, SAID i gotta go here BECAUSE i.

2403
01:52:08,840 --> 01:52:12,360
Speaker 7: CAN'T i can't be there thinking that they're better than.

2404
01:52:12,439 --> 01:52:16,800
Speaker 7: Me and SO i wound up Going at that, Time

2405
01:52:16,920 --> 01:52:18,160
Speaker 7: you know which is now if you don't do. IT

2406
01:52:18,160 --> 01:52:21,800
Speaker 7: i was only the fifth freshman that ever start at the. University,

2407
01:52:22,000 --> 01:52:23,719
Speaker 7: like but now if you don't start as a, freshman

2408
01:52:23,800 --> 01:52:30,880
Speaker 7: people like the. Transfer but that was unusual to start

2409
01:52:30,880 --> 01:52:33,760
Speaker 7: as a, freshman you, know for for, Me SO i

2410
01:52:33,960 --> 01:52:35,400
Speaker 7: Chose North carolina because of that.

2411
01:52:35,520 --> 01:52:35,800
Speaker 5: Reason.

2412
01:52:36,720 --> 01:52:39,920
Speaker 7: Uh and they had, everything like all the schools, like

2413
01:52:39,920 --> 01:52:42,040
Speaker 7: oh we got a good academic, school good social, life

2414
01:52:42,160 --> 01:52:43,479
Speaker 7: it was a good basketball like they had.

2415
01:52:43,520 --> 01:52:44,240
Speaker 8: Everything WHEN i was.

2416
01:52:44,600 --> 01:52:45,040
Speaker 5: It was like a.

2417
01:52:45,160 --> 01:52:48,080
Speaker 7: Movie you know how you see those college. Movies you

2418
01:52:48,200 --> 01:52:52,479
Speaker 7: see like the fraternities and the kids walking through. Campus

2419
01:52:53,479 --> 01:52:56,080
Speaker 7: it just it just felt like a. MOVIE i was,

2420
01:52:56,160 --> 01:52:58,439
Speaker 7: like this isn't. Real Like i'm coming From New. York

2421
01:52:58,520 --> 01:53:01,000
Speaker 7: it's like there's no. Campus Saint john's doesn't have a,

2422
01:53:01,040 --> 01:53:03,760
Speaker 7: campus like Really like SO i was like they were,

2423
01:53:03,800 --> 01:53:05,280
Speaker 7: like they use the city's your.

2424
01:53:05,320 --> 01:53:09,240
Speaker 8: Campus i'm, like, nah, Bro i'm. NOT i would have

2425
01:53:09,240 --> 01:53:12,479
Speaker 8: had to take the same bus THAT i took the high.

2426
01:53:12,320 --> 01:53:14,760
Speaker 5: School to take To Saint.

2427
01:53:14,840 --> 01:53:17,040
Speaker 8: JOHN'S i was, like, NAH i, Can't i'm not having

2428
01:53:17,080 --> 01:53:17,679
Speaker 8: a bus Pass.

2429
01:53:18,400 --> 01:53:18,599
Speaker 5: St.

2430
01:53:18,680 --> 01:53:21,120
Speaker 1: Johnson, YEAH i mean your freshman year team that to

2431
01:53:21,240 --> 01:53:24,720
Speaker 1: name a, Few Michael, Jordan Brad, Dougherty Sam, perkins, YOURSELF i,

2432
01:53:24,800 --> 01:53:26,519
Speaker 1: mean what were those, Practices.

2433
01:53:26,120 --> 01:53:28,920
Speaker 36: Like you know what the crazy part was, That, no

2434
01:53:29,080 --> 01:53:32,160
Speaker 36: that wasn't a question who was the best Playoff i'm

2435
01:53:32,160 --> 01:53:32,559
Speaker 36: gonna get.

2436
01:53:32,600 --> 01:53:34,320
Speaker 8: THAT i want to hear that one want the best.

2437
01:53:34,439 --> 01:53:38,120
Speaker 7: Player Sam perkins was the best player in my freshman,

2438
01:53:38,200 --> 01:53:41,200
Speaker 7: year like Because sam was a four Time All american

2439
01:53:41,400 --> 01:53:44,360
Speaker 7: that you know that wouldn't happen today anither like first

2440
01:53:44,400 --> 01:53:47,639
Speaker 7: team first team For sam was the best. Player michael

2441
01:53:47,760 --> 01:53:51,000
Speaker 7: was the most, dynamic but he didn't have a. Handle

2442
01:53:51,720 --> 01:53:55,000
Speaker 7: he couldn't handle the rock like in. College, no he

2443
01:53:55,000 --> 01:53:57,320
Speaker 7: couldn't handle the. Rock so like even even at Times

2444
01:53:57,360 --> 01:53:58,840
Speaker 7: i'd be, like you beat, me play pick up LIKE

2445
01:53:58,880 --> 01:54:01,719
Speaker 7: i Got mike BECAUSE i Know i'm, like get up under.

2446
01:54:01,600 --> 01:54:05,400
Speaker 8: You like you can't handle the, rock and uh what?

2447
01:54:05,600 --> 01:54:12,519
Speaker 5: Happened and then and then he's the only guy THAT

2448
01:54:12,640 --> 01:54:13,120
Speaker 5: i know that.

2449
01:54:13,200 --> 01:54:16,479
Speaker 7: His weaknesses that he had at the end of his

2450
01:54:16,600 --> 01:54:20,000
Speaker 7: career was a. Stress the only Person i've Ever lebron's

2451
01:54:20,040 --> 01:54:24,240
Speaker 7: not like, THAT, Kd, no, Nobody he's the only ONE i.

2452
01:54:24,320 --> 01:54:27,000
Speaker 7: Did his handle was crazy and his jump shot was.

2453
01:54:27,040 --> 01:54:29,040
Speaker 7: PURE i, said how do you miss a jump? Shot

2454
01:54:29,080 --> 01:54:31,959
Speaker 7: you got a perfect for? Him but we talked about.

2455
01:54:31,720 --> 01:54:33,160
Speaker 1: It AND i was, like this is not.

2456
01:54:33,320 --> 01:54:36,960
Speaker 7: Competitive we talked about competitive With, mike SO i used to.

2457
01:54:37,000 --> 01:54:38,520
Speaker 7: SAY i was, like it's, like, oh you think you could.

2458
01:54:38,520 --> 01:54:39,720
Speaker 7: Go it's like, yeah because your handles.

2459
01:54:39,720 --> 01:54:42,080
Speaker 8: WACK i used to say your handles, WHACK i could

2460
01:54:42,120 --> 01:54:45,880
Speaker 8: guard you and like blah blah. Blah so now we

2461
01:54:46,280 --> 01:54:46,680
Speaker 8: we're doing.

2462
01:54:46,760 --> 01:54:46,920
Speaker 6: That we.

2463
01:54:47,040 --> 01:54:51,400
Speaker 7: Playing he goes to The, olympics comes, back goes to the,

2464
01:54:51,480 --> 01:54:54,320
Speaker 7: league comes back for the summer because all the, players

2465
01:54:54,360 --> 01:54:57,560
Speaker 7: with Every northlina player, came but we all come back and.

2466
01:54:57,640 --> 01:55:02,240
Speaker 7: Play so the gym is the doodles like it's like

2467
01:55:02,440 --> 01:55:05,560
Speaker 7: ANY nba. Team we would beat like in that gym without.

2468
01:55:05,640 --> 01:55:11,320
Speaker 7: Question and he's my, Moment he's, Gone i'm, like, damn gang.

2469
01:55:11,360 --> 01:55:14,520
Speaker 7: Out he's, like my, handle been working on, it BUT.

2470
01:55:14,560 --> 01:55:15,440
Speaker 5: I forgot accept.

2471
01:55:15,480 --> 01:55:16,440
Speaker 32: THAT i really.

2472
01:55:16,520 --> 01:55:19,720
Speaker 7: FORGOT i said, it and he's, like my, handle, right

2473
01:55:19,880 --> 01:55:23,200
Speaker 7: you're talking about my. Handle but he was like the

2474
01:55:23,280 --> 01:55:26,520
Speaker 7: stories are true about his. Competitiveness like we were we

2475
01:55:26,600 --> 01:55:29,160
Speaker 7: were playing pick up one. Day so this is when

2476
01:55:29,280 --> 01:55:30,920
Speaker 7: you knew you MADE i MADE i made it, too

2477
01:55:31,040 --> 01:55:33,480
Speaker 7: because the juniors and, seniors you, know even at y'all

2478
01:55:33,480 --> 01:55:34,280
Speaker 7: school probably picked the.

2479
01:55:34,320 --> 01:55:37,200
Speaker 1: Team yeah, yeah, yes right straight out of high school

2480
01:55:37,200 --> 01:55:38,600
Speaker 1: went To, mexico, right so they.

2481
01:55:38,720 --> 01:55:44,720
Speaker 11: PICKED i don't get a lot Of this is how

2482
01:55:44,760 --> 01:55:44,920
Speaker 11: we do.

2483
01:55:45,000 --> 01:55:48,000
Speaker 7: It so the pros go on one hand and they

2484
01:55:48,120 --> 01:55:50,960
Speaker 7: players college players on the, other and then you pick your.

2485
01:55:51,000 --> 01:55:53,520
Speaker 7: Team but you could you could pick the pros across.

2486
01:55:53,600 --> 01:55:57,440
Speaker 7: Over you could cross. Over So michael and Or sam

2487
01:55:57,520 --> 01:55:59,800
Speaker 7: whoever they, were have senior leaders and junior. Leaders they

2488
01:56:00,120 --> 01:56:03,200
Speaker 7: the team and the first, day you, know you, know

2489
01:56:03,520 --> 01:56:06,120
Speaker 7: as a, freshman you're just. Sitting they're not picking. You

2490
01:56:06,600 --> 01:56:09,800
Speaker 7: so you get on the quarter. End so about two weeks,

2491
01:56:09,880 --> 01:56:14,160
Speaker 7: later bout a week, Later, Uh michael was picking and he's, LIKE.

2492
01:56:15,680 --> 01:56:18,240
Speaker 8: I GOT i Got New. York they used to call

2493
01:56:18,320 --> 01:56:18,520
Speaker 8: Me New.

2494
01:56:18,600 --> 01:56:21,880
Speaker 7: YORK i Got New. YORK i was, like oh, SHIT

2495
01:56:21,920 --> 01:56:27,200
Speaker 7: i got picked. First he was like firsts twenty pros

2496
01:56:27,240 --> 01:56:30,280
Speaker 7: in the. GYM i was, like oh IT'S i was,

2497
01:56:30,360 --> 01:56:33,320
Speaker 7: like so my my confidence was Boost so now we're playing,

2498
01:56:33,440 --> 01:56:35,360
Speaker 7: right and we went. In we went in games and

2499
01:56:35,440 --> 01:56:37,360
Speaker 7: so every time we, win you, know you go get.

2500
01:56:37,400 --> 01:56:39,480
Speaker 7: Water And i'm Watching mike and he's standing in the

2501
01:56:40,000 --> 01:56:43,200
Speaker 7: middle of center. Court i'm, LIKE i walk, up, like,

2502
01:56:43,280 --> 01:56:45,080
Speaker 7: yo what are you. Doing he's, LIKE i want the

2503
01:56:45,200 --> 01:56:48,040
Speaker 7: Mother beckers to know That i'm never leaving the. Court

2504
01:56:48,760 --> 01:56:50,680
Speaker 7: i'm gonna be the first to stand here to. LAST

2505
01:56:51,960 --> 01:56:52,880
Speaker 7: i was, like all, right so we.

2506
01:56:52,960 --> 01:56:55,040
Speaker 5: Both like we.

2507
01:56:55,160 --> 01:56:58,560
Speaker 8: Do this is how we're doing. IT i, mean he was,

2508
01:56:58,800 --> 01:57:02,000
Speaker 8: LIKE i, mean he was the first dude THAT i

2509
01:57:02,120 --> 01:57:03,120
Speaker 8: met that could back up his.

2510
01:57:03,240 --> 01:57:08,200
Speaker 36: Trash like every day every, day always a, talker always a,

2511
01:57:08,280 --> 01:57:11,360
Speaker 36: talker and always backed it up, though like and he

2512
01:57:11,520 --> 01:57:13,560
Speaker 36: really took more, pride especially than his.

2513
01:57:13,720 --> 01:57:17,760
Speaker 7: Defense he's, Like Walter, davis you're not scoring. Today you're

2514
01:57:17,800 --> 01:57:21,080
Speaker 7: not scoring, Today Walter. Davis like he that's the type

2515
01:57:21,080 --> 01:57:21,960
Speaker 7: of energy.

2516
01:57:21,720 --> 01:57:22,880
Speaker 5: He was on all the.

2517
01:57:23,000 --> 01:57:27,480
Speaker 7: Time he and when he got to the. League so

2518
01:57:27,640 --> 01:57:31,120
Speaker 7: we had, dorms and our dorm numbers don't. Change so

2519
01:57:31,240 --> 01:57:34,080
Speaker 7: if you had dorm number, eight it's the same phone

2520
01:57:34,160 --> 01:57:34,600
Speaker 7: number next.

2521
01:57:34,680 --> 01:57:38,320
Speaker 8: Year you're just a different. Person so all when he

2522
01:57:38,360 --> 01:57:39,080
Speaker 8: comes in, town this.

2523
01:57:39,200 --> 01:57:43,280
Speaker 7: Is before The, instagram and you'd hear the phones go

2524
01:57:43,800 --> 01:57:47,880
Speaker 7: bring and somebody hang up bring and you just hear

2525
01:57:47,880 --> 01:57:48,200
Speaker 7: it going.

2526
01:57:48,280 --> 01:57:49,160
Speaker 1: Down so it's.

2527
01:57:49,240 --> 01:57:51,440
Speaker 8: Him all he say is schools in, session.

2528
01:57:51,720 --> 01:57:55,480
Speaker 7: Boochoo so everybody come in the, hallway be, Like mike's,

2529
01:57:55,520 --> 01:57:58,080
Speaker 7: Here mike's, here, Right. Mike so he go and he

2530
01:57:58,200 --> 01:58:00,440
Speaker 7: called each room to let her know would come to

2531
01:58:00,480 --> 01:58:02,640
Speaker 7: the gym schools and it was in, session so the

2532
01:58:02,760 --> 01:58:03,280
Speaker 7: gym would be.

2533
01:58:03,400 --> 01:58:06,440
Speaker 8: Packed we got four thousand people watching our pickup. Games that's,

2534
01:58:06,520 --> 01:58:09,520
Speaker 8: crazy four. Thousand that's dopest hell it.

2535
01:58:09,680 --> 01:58:09,920
Speaker 1: Was it.

2536
01:58:10,040 --> 01:58:14,920
Speaker 7: Was it was unbelievable that time basketball was a Different

2537
01:58:14,960 --> 01:58:18,360
Speaker 7: there was No Charlotte, hornets so like people would and

2538
01:58:18,600 --> 01:58:20,800
Speaker 7: this is no social media and people that all hold

2539
01:58:22,960 --> 01:58:24,800
Speaker 7: word them out and they would be for it would

2540
01:58:24,840 --> 01:58:26,240
Speaker 7: be four thousand people when he came in that.

2541
01:58:26,320 --> 01:58:30,320
Speaker 1: Gym good OLD i mean obviously with his competitiveness and

2542
01:58:30,720 --> 01:58:32,640
Speaker 1: his desire to get better at a young, age did

2543
01:58:32,680 --> 01:58:34,440
Speaker 1: you see him possibly being a GREAT.

2544
01:58:35,360 --> 01:58:36,960
Speaker 8: I knew he would be. GREAT i never thought he'd

2545
01:58:36,960 --> 01:58:38,720
Speaker 8: be the greatest because.

2546
01:58:39,880 --> 01:58:42,240
Speaker 7: WHEN i first saw, him and then WHEN i saw

2547
01:58:42,320 --> 01:58:46,320
Speaker 7: him when we even in, practice like you don't, LIKE

2548
01:58:46,400 --> 01:58:50,360
Speaker 7: i guess it's like you have a beautiful wife and

2549
01:58:50,440 --> 01:58:51,840
Speaker 7: you like take it for granted.

2550
01:58:51,920 --> 01:58:52,760
Speaker 5: Because she's there every.

2551
01:58:52,840 --> 01:58:55,320
Speaker 8: Day you see, It you see it every. Moment you,

2552
01:58:55,400 --> 01:58:58,080
Speaker 8: know you see every moment you know a beautiful person you're.

2553
01:58:58,080 --> 01:59:00,680
Speaker 8: Around you see that bad side, too you see the

2554
01:59:00,760 --> 01:59:01,640
Speaker 8: days that they're in the.

2555
01:59:01,720 --> 01:59:05,760
Speaker 7: Mood so for, HIM i saw those moments AND i was,

2556
01:59:05,880 --> 01:59:09,040
Speaker 7: like but then when he when he left and he came,

2557
01:59:09,160 --> 01:59:12,600
Speaker 7: BACK i saw that the energy that he put into his,

2558
01:59:12,760 --> 01:59:14,680
Speaker 7: game like he never stopped.

2559
01:59:14,840 --> 01:59:18,440
Speaker 8: Working Man like his stuff is not an. Accident like

2560
01:59:18,520 --> 01:59:19,600
Speaker 8: it's not, like oh he was.

2561
01:59:19,680 --> 01:59:23,320
Speaker 7: Gifted, no he was the most fundamentally sound player that

2562
01:59:23,440 --> 01:59:26,040
Speaker 7: ever played the. Game if you watch the, videos his

2563
01:59:26,400 --> 01:59:28,120
Speaker 7: his left handed is in the correct paths and, lane

2564
01:59:28,680 --> 01:59:32,960
Speaker 7: his footwork is. Unapeckable the offensively you, know his jab

2565
01:59:33,040 --> 01:59:36,480
Speaker 7: step is he's the always ball, moved, beat stay still

2566
01:59:36,680 --> 01:59:38,320
Speaker 7: like all of those things were all the.

2567
01:59:38,400 --> 01:59:39,440
Speaker 8: Time and then he was the best.

2568
01:59:39,480 --> 01:59:43,320
Speaker 7: Athlete most guys who were athletic didn't rely on. That you,

2569
01:59:43,360 --> 01:59:45,320
Speaker 7: know his greatest even you, know and this is not

2570
01:59:45,440 --> 01:59:48,320
Speaker 7: a not but his Greatest Claude drexler. Was that was

2571
01:59:48,360 --> 01:59:51,000
Speaker 7: the difference between him And. Mike to, me it's just

2572
01:59:51,040 --> 01:59:54,160
Speaker 7: the fundamentals of jab step and that's you, know the

2573
01:59:54,240 --> 01:59:57,640
Speaker 7: stuff That Dean smith. Learned but, uh and It mike

2574
01:59:57,760 --> 02:00:01,960
Speaker 7: gets a lot of credit, for like his, quotes but

2575
02:00:02,080 --> 02:00:09,200
Speaker 7: it's Just Dean smith's. Quotes it's. Stolen it's it's just

2576
02:00:09,600 --> 02:00:13,960
Speaker 7: he just, adds explicives everything everything That Coach smith said to.

2577
02:00:14,040 --> 02:00:18,120
Speaker 7: Us that's What mike, said every know you you can pull.

2578
02:00:18,200 --> 02:00:21,480
Speaker 7: It it's every. Interview it's plagiarism.

2579
02:00:21,040 --> 02:00:24,280
Speaker 1: To THE i mean speaking To Coach, smith what was

2580
02:00:24,320 --> 02:00:26,200
Speaker 1: it like some of the stories and memories you have

2581
02:00:26,320 --> 02:00:28,320
Speaker 1: rest in? Peace obviously one of the greatest to ever do,

2582
02:00:28,440 --> 02:00:29,120
Speaker 1: It Dean.

2583
02:00:29,200 --> 02:00:34,200
Speaker 8: Smith he was to, me it was like playing For

2584
02:00:34,320 --> 02:00:37,440
Speaker 8: gandhi mm, hmm like you know WHAT i.

2585
02:00:37,520 --> 02:00:37,920
Speaker 5: Mean he.

2586
02:00:38,200 --> 02:00:43,680
Speaker 7: Was it was so real about his inner person who he.

2587
02:00:43,920 --> 02:00:47,320
Speaker 7: Was my favorite story is is not even with. Me it's,

2588
02:00:47,440 --> 02:00:49,920
Speaker 7: uh it's With mac Taw enjai who played At North.

2589
02:00:49,960 --> 02:00:53,280
Speaker 7: Carolina he was From, africa played At michigan transfer in

2590
02:00:54,760 --> 02:00:55,080
Speaker 7: and went To.

2591
02:00:55,120 --> 02:00:56,000
Speaker 8: Oki he went To.

2592
02:00:56,040 --> 02:01:00,240
Speaker 7: Okill So Mac mac, was you, know having a tough

2593
02:01:00,320 --> 02:01:04,120
Speaker 7: time in. Practice So Roy williams was assistant coach at the,

2594
02:01:04,200 --> 02:01:08,360
Speaker 7: time and he's In bill guthriche and so they're getting

2595
02:01:08,400 --> 02:01:10,080
Speaker 7: On matt Like, mac what's wrong with?

2596
02:01:10,160 --> 02:01:10,680
Speaker 5: You blah blah.

2597
02:01:10,680 --> 02:01:15,200
Speaker 7: Blah Coach smith's never cussed, ever excuse me ever ever,

2598
02:01:15,320 --> 02:01:18,800
Speaker 7: ever never. Cussed so they're getting on, him and so

2599
02:01:18,920 --> 02:01:23,000
Speaker 7: they throw him out of. Practice, Right So Coach smith

2600
02:01:23,040 --> 02:01:25,920
Speaker 7: after practice goes to, him Says, mac because everything all,

2601
02:01:25,960 --> 02:01:29,840
Speaker 7: right like homesick like and he's, like no, coach and he's.

2602
02:01:29,880 --> 02:01:31,880
Speaker 7: Not he's not looking at. Him he's, like he's, Like,

2603
02:01:32,120 --> 02:01:33,520
Speaker 7: matt look at me When i'm talking to.

2604
02:01:33,560 --> 02:01:35,200
Speaker 5: You he's, like, no.

2605
02:01:35,520 --> 02:01:38,400
Speaker 7: Coach i'm just not Feeling, matt look at me AS

2606
02:01:38,440 --> 02:01:41,480
Speaker 7: i talk to. You he, said, coach and my culture

2607
02:01:42,240 --> 02:01:46,840
Speaker 7: to look at an adult in the eye. Isspect it's

2608
02:01:46,880 --> 02:01:51,440
Speaker 7: trying to. Disrespect So's coachman, says, Oh, okay walks. Out

2609
02:01:52,240 --> 02:01:56,640
Speaker 7: so next day in, practice there's no Coach guthridge who

2610
02:01:56,720 --> 02:01:59,960
Speaker 7: threw him out of. Practice Coach guts is not there

2611
02:02:00,120 --> 02:02:03,960
Speaker 7: for a. Week So max, said he gets a call

2612
02:02:04,200 --> 02:02:08,800
Speaker 7: because from his. Mom she's, Like, matt this is man

2613
02:02:08,960 --> 02:02:13,360
Speaker 7: here In, africa says he's your coach. Assistant. COACH i

2614
02:02:13,440 --> 02:02:16,080
Speaker 7: know it's Coach. SMITH i don't know. Him, well he's

2615
02:02:16,120 --> 02:02:18,320
Speaker 7: been here for a, week saying he's learning our. Culture

2616
02:02:19,840 --> 02:02:24,480
Speaker 7: he sent Coach guthridge to learn his culture so he could.

2617
02:02:24,400 --> 02:02:28,800
Speaker 8: Never make that mistake. Again that is what Coach smith.

2618
02:02:28,920 --> 02:02:29,360
Speaker 5: Is that's The.

2619
02:02:29,880 --> 02:02:42,240
Speaker 1: Yes two year Pit stock you win a Champion National

2620
02:02:42,320 --> 02:02:45,800
Speaker 1: championship in eighty, one dropped twenty three Versus Sam perkins

2621
02:02:45,840 --> 02:02:48,680
Speaker 1: And James worthy over In North. Carolina what was your

2622
02:02:48,760 --> 02:02:52,400
Speaker 1: favorite on the court moments in? College was it that?

2623
02:02:52,520 --> 02:03:00,760
Speaker 1: Championship two. Favorites the first favorite Was february fourteen In,

2624
02:03:00,920 --> 02:03:05,680
Speaker 1: Iowa Mike whitson's return because my freshman year he had back.

2625
02:03:05,760 --> 02:03:07,480
Speaker 5: Surgery we were ranked number.

2626
02:03:07,520 --> 02:03:12,840
Speaker 37: One whitson goes, Down whitman goes, Down boushie goes, down and,

2627
02:03:12,960 --> 02:03:18,680
Speaker 37: we like you, know were. Faltering, Right woodson comes back

2628
02:03:19,480 --> 02:03:22,040
Speaker 37: and that's his first, game and it's In Iowa, city

2629
02:03:23,400 --> 02:03:26,800
Speaker 37: and this is my freshman year and my whole my

2630
02:03:26,920 --> 02:03:30,760
Speaker 37: whole time, now you, know playing for Coach. Night i'm

2631
02:03:30,800 --> 02:03:33,880
Speaker 37: waiting for this genius, moment, Right i'm waiting for him

2632
02:03:33,920 --> 02:03:36,600
Speaker 37: to grab the, clipboard you, know and draw up some.

2633
02:03:36,720 --> 02:03:41,760
Speaker 37: Stuff BUT i ain't seen no clipboard and like you,

2634
02:03:41,840 --> 02:03:45,640
Speaker 37: KNOW i ain't seen the clipboard like SINCE i got. There,

2635
02:03:45,760 --> 02:03:50,720
Speaker 37: Right so we, Down we down one In. Iowa it

2636
02:03:50,840 --> 02:03:55,240
Speaker 37: Was wody's first game, back and we called time out

2637
02:03:55,800 --> 02:03:57,920
Speaker 37: and Now i'm, like, okay this this is the. MOMENT

2638
02:03:58,800 --> 02:04:01,360
Speaker 37: i got no getting ready to drop a play, now,

2639
02:04:01,760 --> 02:04:07,720
Speaker 37: right this was the play he, Said, whitson can you

2640
02:04:07,800 --> 02:04:08,040
Speaker 37: make a?

2641
02:04:08,120 --> 02:04:10,200
Speaker 8: Shot what he?

2642
02:04:10,240 --> 02:04:12,960
Speaker 37: Said, YEAH i knock it. Down coach he, said he

2643
02:04:13,040 --> 02:04:16,160
Speaker 37: called me pee. Wee he said, okay pee. WEE i

2644
02:04:16,280 --> 02:04:18,960
Speaker 37: want you to move the ball Around. TOBERT i want

2645
02:04:19,000 --> 02:04:21,160
Speaker 37: you to set a screen For. Whitson, WHITSON i want

2646
02:04:21,200 --> 02:04:23,600
Speaker 37: you to get open pee. Weee when he gets, OPEN

2647
02:04:23,640 --> 02:04:25,560
Speaker 37: i want you to hit. It woody knocked the shot.

2648
02:04:25,680 --> 02:04:30,920
Speaker 37: Down i'm, like on the left, side the right, Side,

2649
02:04:33,280 --> 02:04:35,360
Speaker 37: well wh Where's whatson gonna?

2650
02:04:35,360 --> 02:04:37,840
Speaker 1: Be i'm.

2651
02:04:37,920 --> 02:04:39,000
Speaker 5: Scared i'm like.

2652
02:04:39,200 --> 02:04:40,680
Speaker 8: Scared i'm like walking down on the.

2653
02:04:40,720 --> 02:04:43,360
Speaker 1: Floor i'm, like, okay how we gonna get the ball?

2654
02:04:43,480 --> 02:04:43,640
Speaker 6: There?

2655
02:04:43,760 --> 02:04:46,880
Speaker 38: Right he wants you to put everybody in. Place i'm, like, hey,

2656
02:04:47,000 --> 02:04:50,920
Speaker 38: man just All i'm. Doing SO i passed it AND

2657
02:04:51,000 --> 02:04:53,760
Speaker 38: i run over there and get it. Past So i'm

2658
02:04:53,760 --> 02:04:56,640
Speaker 38: waiting For woody To woody come. Off tobah sets a,

2659
02:04:56,720 --> 02:04:59,760
Speaker 38: Downscreen whitson comes off on the left. SIDE i hit

2660
02:04:59,840 --> 02:05:03,080
Speaker 38: him boomom and he banks it right off the.

2661
02:05:03,160 --> 02:05:06,360
Speaker 37: Glass and to, me that was the most that was

2662
02:05:06,400 --> 02:05:09,760
Speaker 37: one of the most beautiful MOMENTS i have, experienced because

2663
02:05:10,280 --> 02:05:11,040
Speaker 37: what he recruited.

2664
02:05:11,120 --> 02:05:13,400
Speaker 1: Me that was my senior. Year he had back.

2665
02:05:13,480 --> 02:05:16,040
Speaker 37: Surgery you, know he's coming, back you, know and SO

2666
02:05:16,160 --> 02:05:19,960
Speaker 37: i was, like. Okay second best moment, was you, know

2667
02:05:20,640 --> 02:05:25,040
Speaker 37: Be North carolina in that final. Game so two things

2668
02:05:25,120 --> 02:05:30,160
Speaker 37: happened in that. Game in the first, Half North carolina

2669
02:05:30,240 --> 02:05:32,440
Speaker 37: got out to a good, start AND i knew we

2670
02:05:32,520 --> 02:05:36,800
Speaker 37: didn't have the talent to play with them right talent for,

2671
02:05:36,920 --> 02:05:42,120
Speaker 37: talent they were Better James, Worthy Sam. PERKINS i would

2672
02:05:42,520 --> 02:05:46,440
Speaker 37: that's the back. Line worthy was a number one. PICK

2673
02:05:46,520 --> 02:05:49,240
Speaker 37: i Think perkins was, like you, know five or, six

2674
02:05:49,320 --> 02:05:54,000
Speaker 37: AND I will was like ten or. Something But North

2675
02:05:54,080 --> 02:05:58,880
Speaker 37: carolina they played that platoon, system SO i was just

2676
02:05:59,760 --> 02:06:01,560
Speaker 37: they got up AND i was, like, okay we just

2677
02:06:01,640 --> 02:06:04,600
Speaker 37: got a hold on fellas because five minutes they're gonna

2678
02:06:04,600 --> 02:06:08,440
Speaker 37: Take worthy. Out they're gonna Take worthy And perkins. Out

2679
02:06:08,480 --> 02:06:11,200
Speaker 37: and when they took them, out so that's when we

2680
02:06:11,360 --> 02:06:14,320
Speaker 37: was able to come. Back but one of the biggest

2681
02:06:14,360 --> 02:06:19,920
Speaker 37: PLAYS i thought in that game clocks running. Down we

2682
02:06:20,080 --> 02:06:23,560
Speaker 37: got the last shot out the half And whitman's in

2683
02:06:23,640 --> 02:06:26,960
Speaker 37: the in the in the right corner And i'm standing.

2684
02:06:27,000 --> 02:06:30,320
Speaker 37: There we're you, Know i'm dribbling the, ball trying to you,

2685
02:06:30,400 --> 02:06:33,160
Speaker 37: know make sure like everybody is set doing what they're

2686
02:06:33,160 --> 02:06:36,920
Speaker 37: supposed to, do trying to start, time And whitmen AND

2687
02:06:37,000 --> 02:06:41,160
Speaker 37: i make eye contact and you, know we run the clock,

2688
02:06:41,280 --> 02:06:45,320
Speaker 37: down kick it over The. Whitmen he knocks down the

2689
02:06:45,440 --> 02:06:48,920
Speaker 37: shot in the in the first. Half they gave us

2690
02:06:49,240 --> 02:06:51,920
Speaker 37: crazy momentum going in BECAUSE i think we either went

2691
02:06:52,040 --> 02:06:54,760
Speaker 37: up one or was down. One we come back out

2692
02:06:54,840 --> 02:06:58,400
Speaker 37: the third to start the second, half and THEN i take.

2693
02:06:58,480 --> 02:06:59,880
Speaker 8: Over so you know.

2694
02:07:00,120 --> 02:07:02,400
Speaker 37: That BUT i thought that shot was one of the

2695
02:07:02,440 --> 02:07:03,520
Speaker 37: biggest moment in the.

2696
02:07:03,600 --> 02:07:15,480
Speaker 5: Game how many back boys have you shot?

2697
02:07:15,560 --> 02:07:16,400
Speaker 1: It just?

2698
02:07:16,520 --> 02:07:17,960
Speaker 5: ONE i brought a lot of.

2699
02:07:18,040 --> 02:07:21,240
Speaker 22: Rims just shot at one boy at the right, time

2700
02:07:21,360 --> 02:07:22,880
Speaker 22: at the right time of the, tournament.

2701
02:07:22,600 --> 02:07:23,040
Speaker 5: At the right.

2702
02:07:23,160 --> 02:07:26,120
Speaker 22: Time, man talk about. That my Man Jason sassi bro

2703
02:07:26,240 --> 02:07:29,000
Speaker 22: shout out To Jay. Sass his Nephew marcus is a

2704
02:07:29,040 --> 02:07:30,920
Speaker 22: hell of a player place at The university Of. Houston

2705
02:07:30,960 --> 02:07:35,640
Speaker 22: marcus sas his. Nephew my man J martin point guard From.

2706
02:07:35,800 --> 02:07:42,520
Speaker 22: Inglewood uh he, hit he hit jail on you At. Jason, yeah,

2707
02:07:42,800 --> 02:07:45,560
Speaker 22: Bro i've been doing j for over thirty, years J.

2708
02:07:45,720 --> 02:07:46,960
Speaker 5: Martin so, Yeah.

2709
02:07:48,320 --> 02:07:51,120
Speaker 22: Jay went hit hit Hit sass in the post And

2710
02:07:51,320 --> 02:07:55,040
Speaker 22: vince was guarding. Me antoine was Garden sass And SaaS

2711
02:07:55,080 --> 02:07:57,920
Speaker 22: threw up the right jump. Hook vince went to go double.

2712
02:07:57,960 --> 02:07:59,760
Speaker 22: ONE i had a straight line right to the. Rim

2713
02:07:59,840 --> 02:08:02,720
Speaker 22: man was caught off as a rebound and the rest

2714
02:08:02,760 --> 02:08:05,800
Speaker 22: of his mother fucking down, too and that actually tied

2715
02:08:05,840 --> 02:08:08,000
Speaker 22: the game. Up like we was going back and, forth

2716
02:08:08,040 --> 02:08:09,960
Speaker 22: AND i think that might have made it sixteen to.

2717
02:08:10,080 --> 02:08:12,720
Speaker 22: Sixteen they had had my man who want to see

2718
02:08:12,760 --> 02:08:15,320
Speaker 22: later on the. Night they Had jeff. McGinnis they Had,

2719
02:08:15,480 --> 02:08:20,560
Speaker 22: Uh Antoine, Jamison Vince, Carter sir S Quicker Shaman. Williams

2720
02:08:20,920 --> 02:08:24,400
Speaker 22: That carolina team was, strong ye, ka dont you know

2721
02:08:24,400 --> 02:08:27,040
Speaker 22: WHAT i? Mean they had A they had a, strong strong.

2722
02:08:27,120 --> 02:08:31,920
Speaker 22: Squad and we Had Tony, battiz, Myself saz J, Mark Corey,

2723
02:08:32,000 --> 02:08:35,120
Speaker 22: carr Uh Coy smiths and they. Cook we had we

2724
02:08:35,200 --> 02:08:37,720
Speaker 22: had a pretty tough squad, too but it was one

2725
02:08:37,760 --> 02:08:39,760
Speaker 22: of those. Things, man we're going back and. Forth when that,

2726
02:08:39,880 --> 02:08:43,000
Speaker 22: happened we had to stop the game forty five, minutes

2727
02:08:43,520 --> 02:08:46,280
Speaker 22: watch the ice glass out our. Back we had to take,

2728
02:08:46,360 --> 02:08:50,760
Speaker 22: showers and my Man corey came, out went on a

2729
02:08:50,920 --> 02:08:55,640
Speaker 22: three point. Barage corey came out and hit like four straight.

2730
02:08:55,720 --> 02:08:57,920
Speaker 22: Threes man just opened the game. Up we ended up

2731
02:08:57,960 --> 02:09:01,720
Speaker 22: winning by twenty ninety two to seventy. Reading and they

2732
02:09:01,960 --> 02:09:07,000
Speaker 22: drug tested me. FEVERISHLY i gotta be on something.

2733
02:09:07,120 --> 02:09:10,360
Speaker 5: Right everything came back, clean. KIDS i was just On

2734
02:09:10,560 --> 02:09:11,640
Speaker 5: Steak milk And Broci.

2735
02:09:19,920 --> 02:09:21,760
Speaker 39: JACK i can tell you a funny, story, man after

2736
02:09:21,800 --> 02:09:23,680
Speaker 39: we won the national. Championship and this is before the

2737
02:09:23,760 --> 02:09:27,520
Speaker 39: social media era that you, know nobody really knew or talked.

2738
02:09:27,520 --> 02:09:30,440
Speaker 39: About but we just won a national, championship, Right so

2739
02:09:30,600 --> 02:09:33,520
Speaker 39: we're going to Uh so we're on campus and colleg

2740
02:09:33,720 --> 02:09:35,160
Speaker 39: comes up to. Me it's, like, Hey, rip let's go

2741
02:09:35,760 --> 02:09:38,360
Speaker 39: To hartford right to get some gear because that's where

2742
02:09:38,360 --> 02:09:40,040
Speaker 39: all the hip hop you, know you get all your

2743
02:09:40,080 --> 02:09:41,880
Speaker 39: hip hop clothes and get. Fresh he was, Like, yo

2744
02:09:41,960 --> 02:09:43,640
Speaker 39: my man got a store, there you, Know let's go

2745
02:09:43,720 --> 02:09:45,360
Speaker 39: down there and get some. Clothes So i'm, like all, right,

2746
02:09:45,680 --> 02:09:47,920
Speaker 39: cool you. Know so we go to the store and

2747
02:09:47,920 --> 02:09:50,520
Speaker 39: get some gear whatever. Whatever, Right so we get back

2748
02:09:50,560 --> 02:09:52,480
Speaker 39: in the. Car now we on our way back to.

2749
02:09:52,560 --> 02:09:54,760
Speaker 39: Campus So colie, like oh, man you know, what, Man,

2750
02:09:54,880 --> 02:09:57,520
Speaker 39: rip let's right through the. Hood you know What i'm

2751
02:09:57,520 --> 02:09:59,360
Speaker 39: saying from the.

2752
02:09:59,480 --> 02:10:01,880
Speaker 8: People So i'm, Like i'm, like, hey.

2753
02:10:01,800 --> 02:10:02,320
Speaker 5: Let's just get.

2754
02:10:02,360 --> 02:10:04,160
Speaker 39: Back let's get back to. Camp he's, like, nah let's

2755
02:10:04,160 --> 02:10:07,040
Speaker 39: just ride through real. Quick i'm, like all, right, cool

2756
02:10:07,120 --> 02:10:10,000
Speaker 39: let's do. It so we riding through the. Neighborhood you

2757
02:10:10,080 --> 02:10:12,440
Speaker 39: know What i'm, saying you, know everybody in the neighborhood

2758
02:10:12,520 --> 02:10:15,520
Speaker 39: giving us love, whatever, whatever high, five, whatever. Whatever so

2759
02:10:16,120 --> 02:10:18,120
Speaker 39: we stopped by this little, project you know What i'm

2760
02:10:18,120 --> 02:10:20,040
Speaker 39: saying over, there, right and a couple of homies you

2761
02:10:20,080 --> 02:10:22,840
Speaker 39: know in the, neighborhood you, Know new k and they was, Like,

2762
02:10:22,920 --> 02:10:25,480
Speaker 39: yo what's, up, man, congratulations you, know just give him, love,

2763
02:10:25,760 --> 02:10:27,320
Speaker 39: right shake your, hands napping over the.

2764
02:10:27,480 --> 02:10:27,720
Speaker 5: Whatever.

2765
02:10:27,920 --> 02:10:30,920
Speaker 8: Right so we're in the car and one.

2766
02:10:30,880 --> 02:10:34,720
Speaker 5: Dude comes over and he says a k uh.

2767
02:10:34,960 --> 02:10:38,000
Speaker 39: Huh, man you know What i'm, saying and reaches in

2768
02:10:38,080 --> 02:10:41,560
Speaker 39: a car and acts like he gives him. Debt but

2769
02:10:41,640 --> 02:10:43,880
Speaker 39: then he pulls his hand back, right and then the

2770
02:10:43,960 --> 02:10:46,880
Speaker 39: homie was, like, hey you know, what just give it to.

2771
02:10:46,960 --> 02:10:47,080
Speaker 1: Him.

2772
02:10:47,120 --> 02:10:49,120
Speaker 39: Man the dudes won the national, championship AND i don't

2773
02:10:49,120 --> 02:10:50,400
Speaker 39: know what the hell is they you know What i'm, saying,

2774
02:10:50,480 --> 02:10:51,480
Speaker 39: like just give it to him whatever.

2775
02:10:51,520 --> 02:10:54,720
Speaker 5: Whatever. Right so then k was, Like, Nah i'm cool whatever.

2776
02:10:54,720 --> 02:10:56,080
Speaker 11: Whatever homies, like, nah give it to.

2777
02:10:56,200 --> 02:10:56,320
Speaker 5: Him.

2778
02:10:56,320 --> 02:10:59,240
Speaker 39: Boom gave him high, five you know What i'm. Saying

2779
02:10:59,360 --> 02:11:01,520
Speaker 39: and it was two dying bags of, weed, Right.

2780
02:11:01,960 --> 02:11:06,880
Speaker 26: Kate ky takes it, Right kay takes it, right puts

2781
02:11:06,920 --> 02:11:07,760
Speaker 26: it in his pocket.

2782
02:11:08,120 --> 02:11:08,440
Speaker 5: Boom.

2783
02:11:08,640 --> 02:11:11,920
Speaker 39: Right so Now we're in a, car, Right so we sped.

2784
02:11:12,000 --> 02:11:15,160
Speaker 39: OFF i mean we going thirty miles an. Hour as

2785
02:11:15,200 --> 02:11:19,200
Speaker 39: soon as we hit the, Corner, bro the sirens go.

2786
02:11:19,360 --> 02:11:28,320
Speaker 39: Off police come out on foot. Sprinting run stop, them they,

2787
02:11:28,480 --> 02:11:31,400
Speaker 39: Ran they ran stop sign and they've.

2788
02:11:31,240 --> 02:11:31,840
Speaker 5: Been speeding or.

2789
02:11:31,840 --> 02:11:33,720
Speaker 26: Whatever i'm, like, bro we ain't been, Speeding like what

2790
02:11:33,840 --> 02:11:34,480
Speaker 26: the hell going?

2791
02:11:34,520 --> 02:11:35,640
Speaker 8: On like you know What i'm.

2792
02:11:35,680 --> 02:11:41,040
Speaker 5: Saying ONCE i see, Police i'm. Shook. Right so Then kate, like, oh.

2793
02:11:41,120 --> 02:11:42,880
Speaker 39: Man like, damn like you know WHAT i, MEAN i

2794
02:11:43,000 --> 02:11:44,680
Speaker 39: got this on me like like you know WHAT i,

2795
02:11:44,760 --> 02:11:46,960
Speaker 39: mean we cut college kids at this. Time you, know

2796
02:11:47,480 --> 02:11:51,480
Speaker 39: marijuana was a big thing back, then like like. Child

2797
02:11:52,280 --> 02:11:55,040
Speaker 39: so the cop come out, right so he like he's

2798
02:11:55,160 --> 02:11:57,480
Speaker 39: put this one, Cock come take me and put me

2799
02:11:57,520 --> 02:11:59,400
Speaker 39: in a cop. Car they take him and put him

2800
02:11:59,400 --> 02:12:02,040
Speaker 39: in a cop. Car i'm, like, yo what the hell's going?

2801
02:12:02,080 --> 02:12:05,600
Speaker 39: On so the cop Car i'm, in the police is, like, Man, britt,

2802
02:12:05,680 --> 02:12:06,640
Speaker 39: like why are y'all?

2803
02:12:06,720 --> 02:12:08,360
Speaker 8: Here And i'm, like, bro we just came here.

2804
02:12:08,320 --> 02:12:10,400
Speaker 26: To get some, clothes like you know What i'm, Saying

2805
02:12:10,560 --> 02:12:12,120
Speaker 26: like you, know we just had a cruise around.

2806
02:12:12,160 --> 02:12:14,160
Speaker 39: Neighborhood he's, like, bro you know we've been having a

2807
02:12:14,200 --> 02:12:17,280
Speaker 39: sting operation on this project for the last four.

2808
02:12:17,400 --> 02:12:20,240
Speaker 5: Months i'm, Like i'm.

2809
02:12:21,360 --> 02:12:23,480
Speaker 39: So Then i'm like then he's, like y'all shouldn't be out.

2810
02:12:23,480 --> 02:12:26,000
Speaker 39: Here y'all shouldn't be out. Here so Now i'm looking

2811
02:12:26,080 --> 02:12:28,440
Speaker 39: through the police police, uh And i'm in the back.

2812
02:12:28,440 --> 02:12:30,120
Speaker 39: Seat i'm looking through the police. Window so they Pulled

2813
02:12:30,160 --> 02:12:32,920
Speaker 39: kindli out the car, first but they separate, us AND

2814
02:12:33,640 --> 02:12:36,280
Speaker 39: i know what pocket he put the dining bags, In

2815
02:12:36,640 --> 02:12:39,080
Speaker 39: And i'm, like, like, bro, like please don't go in

2816
02:12:39,400 --> 02:12:42,440
Speaker 39: the pocket right first team they. Did so they had

2817
02:12:42,520 --> 02:12:44,760
Speaker 39: some mean ass. Cameras, MAN i don't know where where

2818
02:12:44,800 --> 02:12:47,040
Speaker 39: the hell they got this camera. At the first place

2819
02:12:47,080 --> 02:12:49,680
Speaker 39: they checked was inside his sweatsuit.

2820
02:12:49,760 --> 02:12:52,240
Speaker 26: Pocket he going to sweat suit, pocket, boom pulls it.

2821
02:12:52,320 --> 02:12:54,960
Speaker 39: OUT i don't see what was being said BECAUSE i

2822
02:12:55,080 --> 02:12:57,000
Speaker 39: just see a whole lot of hands Because i'm in.

2823
02:12:57,080 --> 02:12:59,400
Speaker 26: There they put him in the, car they pulled me.

2824
02:12:59,440 --> 02:13:01,320
Speaker 5: Out they was, like what the hell you got in your?

2825
02:13:01,360 --> 02:13:02,760
Speaker 26: Pocket i'm, like, BRO i ain't got.

2826
02:13:02,880 --> 02:13:05,840
Speaker 39: Nothing they pat me down whatever whatever they, checked they

2827
02:13:06,040 --> 02:13:10,160
Speaker 39: checked the, car, whatever, whatever and then they.

2828
02:13:09,600 --> 02:13:12,080
Speaker 26: Take him right to the police. Station So i'm, like, yo,

2829
02:13:12,320 --> 02:13:13,440
Speaker 26: like what's going?

2830
02:13:13,520 --> 02:13:13,800
Speaker 5: On you know?

2831
02:13:13,800 --> 02:13:15,640
Speaker 39: WHAT i mean Cause i'm Macadumb i'm, like, yo what's going?

2832
02:13:15,680 --> 02:13:17,960
Speaker 5: On he was, like oh, man he had marijuana on.

2833
02:13:18,040 --> 02:13:20,720
Speaker 5: Him he's going to. Jail So i'm, like, well, well like,

2834
02:13:20,880 --> 02:13:23,600
Speaker 5: yo like like what about? Me they was, like, oh,

2835
02:13:23,680 --> 02:13:26,160
Speaker 5: well well you, off like but he's going to. Jail

2836
02:13:26,160 --> 02:13:28,080
Speaker 5: And i'm, like, bro like like where we just won

2837
02:13:28,160 --> 02:13:29,880
Speaker 5: a national, championship.

2838
02:13:29,600 --> 02:13:32,000
Speaker 26: Like like, y'all y'all can't let us?

2839
02:13:32,080 --> 02:13:35,160
Speaker 39: Off like and he like he like hell, nah like

2840
02:13:35,280 --> 02:13:37,440
Speaker 39: in a POLICE i, mean everybody in the neighborhood out, like,

2841
02:13:37,520 --> 02:13:38,520
Speaker 39: yo let them kids.

2842
02:13:38,600 --> 02:13:39,760
Speaker 8: Go let them kids.

2843
02:13:39,800 --> 02:13:42,240
Speaker 39: Go so you, Know i'm an hour from, campus, man

2844
02:13:42,280 --> 02:13:43,880
Speaker 39: And i'm, like, yo all, right, man can you just

2845
02:13:43,920 --> 02:13:46,320
Speaker 39: give me the keys SO i can drive back to

2846
02:13:46,440 --> 02:13:50,000
Speaker 39: the to the. Campus they, like hell, now but we

2847
02:13:50,040 --> 02:13:51,600
Speaker 39: can give you a ride to the police. STATION i,

2848
02:13:51,640 --> 02:13:53,840
Speaker 39: said you know, What i'll walk back to campus, Man

2849
02:13:54,120 --> 02:13:57,400
Speaker 39: AND i. WALKED i walked out a mile when somebody

2850
02:13:57,480 --> 02:13:59,120
Speaker 39: came and getting picked. Up you know this before the

2851
02:13:59,200 --> 02:14:01,960
Speaker 39: cell phone here, Somebody, yeah ride back to. Campus so

2852
02:14:02,360 --> 02:14:06,520
Speaker 39: that was just a crazy situation Because coline school his sophomore.

2853
02:14:06,640 --> 02:14:08,960
Speaker 39: Year that was the same year THAT i, left you

2854
02:14:09,080 --> 02:14:11,480
Speaker 39: know What i'm. Saying but he was going to leave that,

2855
02:14:11,720 --> 02:14:13,560
Speaker 39: year but he ended up coming back for.

2856
02:14:13,800 --> 02:14:25,640
Speaker 1: Junior your senior year begins the journey of you winning.

2857
02:14:25,720 --> 02:14:28,040
Speaker 1: Hardware your senior, year you guys go, undefeated you win

2858
02:14:28,080 --> 02:14:31,080
Speaker 1: a state champion, chip and then you head on To.

2859
02:14:31,240 --> 02:14:34,839
Speaker 1: Yukon who were some of the other schools you possibly

2860
02:14:34,920 --> 02:14:35,400
Speaker 1: thought about.

2861
02:14:36,320 --> 02:14:40,880
Speaker 40: Joining, YEAH i Visited, Stamford, vanderbilt and then Like duke

2862
02:14:40,880 --> 02:14:43,240
Speaker 40: And Notre dame or like the kind of like the

2863
02:14:43,280 --> 02:14:43,600
Speaker 40: fourth and.

2864
02:14:43,680 --> 02:14:45,560
Speaker 21: FIFTH i didn't even visit. Though it was Really yukon

2865
02:14:45,640 --> 02:14:47,520
Speaker 21: from the, start like that was?

2866
02:14:47,600 --> 02:14:47,640
Speaker 22: It?

2867
02:14:47,920 --> 02:14:49,960
Speaker 21: Yeah the other ones kind of crept, in you, know

2868
02:14:50,160 --> 02:14:52,800
Speaker 21: because like they wind and dine, you but it was A.

2869
02:14:52,840 --> 02:14:55,400
Speaker 26: Yukon what was?

2870
02:14:55,440 --> 02:14:57,880
Speaker 1: IT i mean obviously at the long line of great

2871
02:14:58,200 --> 02:15:00,360
Speaker 1: men and women. There what did it? Mean the first

2872
02:15:00,400 --> 02:15:03,360
Speaker 1: time you actually got to put that? Uniform? Mom it was.

2873
02:15:03,400 --> 02:15:06,320
Speaker 21: Crazy because they still do really well in.

2874
02:15:06,400 --> 02:15:08,320
Speaker 40: Attendance but WHEN i was in, school it was Like

2875
02:15:09,480 --> 02:15:12,520
Speaker 40: gamble was ten thousand so and we sold that out

2876
02:15:12,600 --> 02:15:14,560
Speaker 40: and then we would play in the arena In hartford

2877
02:15:15,560 --> 02:15:18,320
Speaker 40: and that's like sixteen thousand sold that. Out and whether

2878
02:15:18,400 --> 02:15:21,200
Speaker 40: we were playing like our art rival or we were

2879
02:15:21,280 --> 02:15:23,680
Speaker 40: playing LIKE i don't, know SOME d two team in

2880
02:15:23,800 --> 02:15:24,440
Speaker 40: like a preseason.

2881
02:15:24,520 --> 02:15:25,360
Speaker 21: Game, yeah it didn't.

2882
02:15:25,400 --> 02:15:28,560
Speaker 40: Matter so to, me that was like the fans that

2883
02:15:28,760 --> 02:15:30,440
Speaker 40: was the crazy. Part so you put the uniform, on

2884
02:15:30,560 --> 02:15:31,440
Speaker 40: you run out to all these.

2885
02:15:31,520 --> 02:15:34,560
Speaker 21: People that was. Wild that Was that was the wildest.

2886
02:15:34,600 --> 02:15:38,560
Speaker 8: Part do you think Your yo Yu contein could be

2887
02:15:38,680 --> 02:15:39,440
Speaker 8: SOME wnba?

2888
02:15:39,520 --> 02:15:40,960
Speaker 26: TEAM i mean, yeah.

2889
02:15:40,800 --> 02:15:43,920
Speaker 21: Because it's like five wa like top five picks.

2890
02:15:45,680 --> 02:15:45,720
Speaker 5: For.

2891
02:15:45,880 --> 02:15:48,280
Speaker 21: Real my senior year, Loaded, yeah we were.

2892
02:15:48,360 --> 02:15:52,879
Speaker 1: Loaded Were so you had a little setback your freshman

2893
02:15:53,000 --> 02:15:56,960
Speaker 1: year tearing your Acl what was that like for the

2894
02:15:57,000 --> 02:15:59,400
Speaker 1: first time basketball tea being taken away due to.

2895
02:15:59,480 --> 02:16:01,880
Speaker 26: Injury, yeah it was, terrible.

2896
02:16:03,440 --> 02:16:06,160
Speaker 21: ALTHOUGH i also so like talking about the bubble and

2897
02:16:06,240 --> 02:16:06,600
Speaker 21: needing a.

2898
02:16:06,680 --> 02:16:09,840
Speaker 40: BREAK i figured out quickly even my freshman, year LIKE

2899
02:16:10,040 --> 02:16:12,800
Speaker 40: i love, basketball but LIKE i can balance, it you.

2900
02:16:12,920 --> 02:16:14,560
Speaker 26: Know so it was tough that it was.

2901
02:16:14,560 --> 02:16:18,040
Speaker 40: Taken away BECAUSE i didn't have a. CHANCE i hadn't

2902
02:16:18,080 --> 02:16:20,400
Speaker 40: proven myself, yet LIKE i, was you, know like there

2903
02:16:20,480 --> 02:16:22,720
Speaker 40: was no nothing to back it. Up you get hurt

2904
02:16:22,840 --> 02:16:24,680
Speaker 40: now or like later in your, career people kind of

2905
02:16:24,720 --> 02:16:26,320
Speaker 40: know who you are and know what you can. Do it's, like,

2906
02:16:26,360 --> 02:16:28,800
Speaker 40: okay she'll be. Fine but this was LIKE i hadn't done,

2907
02:16:28,800 --> 02:16:33,840
Speaker 40: Anything so that was probably the hardest, part but it's

2908
02:16:33,840 --> 02:16:37,320
Speaker 40: probably the thing that like shaped me, now like going through,

2909
02:16:37,440 --> 02:16:41,320
Speaker 40: that having to prove myself kind of overcome. Something you,

2910
02:16:41,360 --> 02:16:43,840
Speaker 40: Know i'm back in nineteen ninety, eight tearing your acl

2911
02:16:44,000 --> 02:16:45,800
Speaker 40: was like a death. Wish now it's, like oh.

2912
02:16:45,800 --> 02:16:48,600
Speaker 21: Yeah, Fine but back, then, yeah back then.

2913
02:16:48,600 --> 02:16:50,640
Speaker 1: It was, scary. Scary so did you get one of

2914
02:16:50,680 --> 02:16:53,080
Speaker 1: those big old, scars like from your shin to the

2915
02:16:53,200 --> 02:16:56,480
Speaker 1: top of your they have those Scary franken STYLE i,

2916
02:16:56,520 --> 02:16:58,879
Speaker 1: Remember BUT i had toe surgery and it was supposed

2917
02:16:58,879 --> 02:17:00,480
Speaker 1: TO i thought it was a skull. Open there's like

2918
02:17:00,560 --> 02:17:02,200
Speaker 1: a scar on my toe like the size of my.

2919
02:17:02,280 --> 02:17:04,400
Speaker 1: Foot i'm, like what the fuck was this? Like and

2920
02:17:04,520 --> 02:17:07,520
Speaker 1: that was in nineteen ninety, eight like, surgery medical, that you,

2921
02:17:07,600 --> 02:17:10,440
Speaker 1: know the medical stide was much different back. Then so

2922
02:17:10,560 --> 02:17:12,920
Speaker 1: you were you were able to establish you, know winning

2923
02:17:12,959 --> 02:17:17,320
Speaker 1: two championships there playing with The diana And Swing. Cash

2924
02:17:17,959 --> 02:17:19,560
Speaker 1: what was it like being able to win with your?

2925
02:17:19,680 --> 02:17:22,000
Speaker 26: Friends that was the best part we.

2926
02:17:22,120 --> 02:17:25,200
Speaker 40: Had we had a really it was like a it

2927
02:17:25,320 --> 02:17:27,440
Speaker 40: was a close, group like my class is super tight

2928
02:17:27,600 --> 02:17:30,480
Speaker 40: group chats still popping, now but then even so And

2929
02:17:30,600 --> 02:17:33,640
Speaker 40: d's class was two years younger and they we had

2930
02:17:33,680 --> 02:17:35,520
Speaker 40: five in my, class well ended up being four at the,

2931
02:17:35,600 --> 02:17:37,320
Speaker 40: end but and they had. Five so it was like

2932
02:17:37,400 --> 02:17:40,160
Speaker 40: these two like like in, numbers you know WHAT i,

2933
02:17:40,240 --> 02:17:42,080
Speaker 40: mean these two groups and they kind of ride or.

2934
02:17:42,120 --> 02:17:44,879
Speaker 40: Died but when we came, together we still had so much.

2935
02:17:44,959 --> 02:17:47,160
Speaker 40: Fun so it's, like as like you guys can it's

2936
02:17:47,200 --> 02:17:50,000
Speaker 40: like the memories aren't the. Winning it's nice that you,

2937
02:17:50,080 --> 02:17:52,880
Speaker 40: win but it's like all the other stuff so to do,

2938
02:17:53,040 --> 02:17:55,240
Speaker 40: that and, REALLY i mean you mentioned two people FOR

2939
02:17:55,400 --> 02:17:58,240
Speaker 40: d And, Swin it's Like i've literally gone through everything with,

2940
02:17:58,360 --> 02:17:59,840
Speaker 40: them starting in College.

2941
02:18:00,400 --> 02:18:01,879
Speaker 21: Swin actually we played together.

2942
02:18:01,680 --> 02:18:01,960
Speaker 1: In the W.

2943
02:18:02,120 --> 02:18:05,880
Speaker 21: Nba me AND d played Me Dan swin with the national,

2944
02:18:05,959 --> 02:18:07,120
Speaker 21: team then me AND d went To.

2945
02:18:07,200 --> 02:18:10,440
Speaker 40: Russia it's just like our careers are so, intertwined and

2946
02:18:10,560 --> 02:18:12,240
Speaker 40: it's they're like sisters for.

2947
02:18:12,320 --> 02:18:16,240
Speaker 21: Sure so it's it's always amazing doing and winning with your.

2948
02:18:16,280 --> 02:18:20,439
Speaker 1: Family that's what's up played for legendary Coach Gina, ariyama

2949
02:18:20,480 --> 02:18:23,560
Speaker 1: who once said you were the best point guard in the.

2950
02:18:23,640 --> 02:18:25,720
Speaker 1: World how did this is the two? Part how did

2951
02:18:25,760 --> 02:18:27,080
Speaker 1: that make you? Feel and then what is some of

2952
02:18:27,160 --> 02:18:29,959
Speaker 1: the best advice he gave you during your time?

2953
02:18:30,040 --> 02:18:31,640
Speaker 21: There he definitely didn't say that shits in my.

2954
02:18:31,720 --> 02:18:35,440
Speaker 26: Face gino is such a g MAN i.

2955
02:18:35,520 --> 02:18:39,160
Speaker 1: LOVE i never met, HIM i just SAW i could

2956
02:18:39,240 --> 02:18:41,480
Speaker 1: just feel his energy from THE. Tv i've always fucked

2957
02:18:41,480 --> 02:18:42,520
Speaker 1: with him even THOUGH i never met.

2958
02:18:42,600 --> 02:18:44,040
Speaker 21: Him he shoots it, straight that's for.

2959
02:18:44,160 --> 02:18:46,320
Speaker 40: Sure, no it's for him to say, that Like i'm,

2960
02:18:46,440 --> 02:18:50,120
Speaker 40: joking but he gives you compliments to your, face but not.

2961
02:18:50,240 --> 02:18:52,039
Speaker 21: When you're in, college not even shortly.

2962
02:18:52,080 --> 02:18:54,760
Speaker 40: Thereafter but to have him say, that to know who he's,

2963
02:18:54,840 --> 02:18:57,760
Speaker 40: coached who he's been, around it's obviously an amazing.

2964
02:18:57,800 --> 02:19:00,480
Speaker 21: COMPLIMENT i think the thing he taught me that to

2965
02:19:00,600 --> 02:19:03,879
Speaker 21: this DAY i take with me is it's.

2966
02:19:03,760 --> 02:19:06,480
Speaker 40: Like a classic line of his basketball is not a

2967
02:19:06,560 --> 02:19:09,320
Speaker 40: game of how, to it's a game of when, to

2968
02:19:10,400 --> 02:19:12,000
Speaker 40: and THAT i think.

2969
02:19:11,959 --> 02:19:14,520
Speaker 21: Is like true for all, players but especially for me

2970
02:19:14,640 --> 02:19:17,240
Speaker 21: at the point guard. Spot Like i'm kind of you,

2971
02:19:17,320 --> 02:19:19,680
Speaker 21: Know i'm not out. There i'm not gonna dazzle you

2972
02:19:19,800 --> 02:19:22,160
Speaker 21: with my. Athleticism i'm not going to rely on those,

2973
02:19:22,240 --> 02:19:23,560
Speaker 21: things SO i have to be.

2974
02:19:23,680 --> 02:19:26,320
Speaker 5: Really it really is about When i'm.

2975
02:19:26,200 --> 02:19:29,120
Speaker 40: Doing this, stuff not not how, right like everybody can,

2976
02:19:29,160 --> 02:19:31,720
Speaker 40: shoot dribble, pass but it's like when and being really

2977
02:19:31,840 --> 02:19:33,800
Speaker 40: like smart about. It and, calculated and that's.

2978
02:19:33,680 --> 02:19:33,959
Speaker 1: Like my.

2979
02:19:42,720 --> 02:19:46,760
Speaker 5: What was your recruiting? Process like, school we.

2980
02:19:46,879 --> 02:19:48,840
Speaker 41: Started to get on the, map SO i really could

2981
02:19:48,879 --> 02:19:52,040
Speaker 41: have chose ANYWHERE i wanted to. GO i chose you

2982
02:19:52,160 --> 02:19:54,120
Speaker 41: call my junior. Year SO i didn't even. WAIT i was,

2983
02:19:54,160 --> 02:19:54,840
Speaker 41: like what y'all want?

2984
02:19:54,879 --> 02:19:56,760
Speaker 21: ME i want you, to, like let's let's do.

2985
02:19:56,959 --> 02:20:00,440
Speaker 41: This but it actually wasn't even in the. BEGINNING i

2986
02:20:00,560 --> 02:20:02,840
Speaker 41: was more so leaning Towards maryland because that's where my sister.

2987
02:20:02,959 --> 02:20:04,280
Speaker 41: Lives So i'm, like all, RIGHT i can go TO.

2988
02:20:04,480 --> 02:20:08,200
Speaker 41: Umd they got a good program, there and THEN i

2989
02:20:08,440 --> 02:20:10,320
Speaker 41: just went TO i went to my visit To. Yukon

2990
02:20:10,440 --> 02:20:12,560
Speaker 41: this is kind of. CRAZY i had all the other

2991
02:20:12,680 --> 02:20:14,640
Speaker 41: visits lined. UP i even Put hawaii on there BECAUSE

2992
02:20:14,640 --> 02:20:15,120
Speaker 41: i just wanted, to.

2993
02:20:15,120 --> 02:20:15,879
Speaker 1: You, KNOW i want.

2994
02:20:15,920 --> 02:20:19,480
Speaker 41: TO i want, to all, right so you already. KNOW

2995
02:20:20,040 --> 02:20:23,320
Speaker 41: i went To yukon and signed with them right after.

2996
02:20:23,440 --> 02:20:25,920
Speaker 41: Kids so all the other trips those were terrible calls to.

2997
02:20:26,000 --> 02:20:29,720
Speaker 41: Make just letting everybody Know West virginia through a fit

2998
02:20:29,800 --> 02:20:33,320
Speaker 41: BECAUSE i didn't take my trip TO. WVU i, knew

2999
02:20:33,440 --> 02:20:35,480
Speaker 41: like WHEN i went, there they didn't roll out the

3000
02:20:35,520 --> 02:20:37,400
Speaker 41: red carpet for. Me you, know everybody else was, like,

3001
02:20:37,480 --> 02:20:39,680
Speaker 41: yeah you're gonna come, Here you're gonna start for. Years i'm,

3002
02:20:39,720 --> 02:20:41,039
Speaker 41: like how many people they telling us?

3003
02:20:41,080 --> 02:20:41,200
Speaker 6: Too?

3004
02:20:41,240 --> 02:20:42,880
Speaker 33: Though you, know LIKE i JUST i like.

3005
02:20:43,000 --> 02:20:45,560
Speaker 41: Transparency so Coach arima was, like, look we already got

3006
02:20:45,600 --> 02:20:48,000
Speaker 41: a point. Guard we know you're. GOOD i don't know

3007
02:20:48,040 --> 02:20:49,920
Speaker 41: if you're gonna, start you, know like he's if y'all

3008
02:20:49,959 --> 02:20:52,720
Speaker 41: know coach R, amma he's the same way for. Recruiting

3009
02:20:52,840 --> 02:20:54,760
Speaker 41: SO i think the players that go, THERE i think

3010
02:20:54,760 --> 02:20:56,640
Speaker 41: it says a lot about the players because you got, People,

3011
02:20:57,360 --> 02:21:00,280
Speaker 41: yeah you got people promising you the. World so people

3012
02:21:00,280 --> 02:21:02,400
Speaker 41: that go To yukon coach are in but just does

3013
02:21:02,480 --> 02:21:05,080
Speaker 41: a move like, That so that that says something about the.

3014
02:21:05,120 --> 02:21:07,320
Speaker 26: PLAYERS i, think, yeap what was your college?

3015
02:21:07,400 --> 02:21:11,680
Speaker 1: Experience, LIKE i, mean going to a legendary, program having

3016
02:21:11,760 --> 02:21:14,920
Speaker 1: a legendary, coach able to capture one title your senior.

3017
02:21:15,000 --> 02:21:16,760
Speaker 1: Year But i'm sure the experience is something you'll never,

3018
02:21:16,840 --> 02:21:18,200
Speaker 1: forget something you'll never.

3019
02:21:18,360 --> 02:21:21,280
Speaker 41: FORGET i, mean, WELL i already went there knowing the

3020
02:21:21,360 --> 02:21:23,920
Speaker 41: point guards that were before. Me so it's LIKE i

3021
02:21:24,000 --> 02:21:24,760
Speaker 41: think that's that.

3022
02:21:25,040 --> 02:21:26,640
Speaker 1: That's what push not to cut you? Off who was

3023
02:21:26,720 --> 02:21:27,560
Speaker 1: there when you came.

3024
02:21:27,640 --> 02:21:30,400
Speaker 41: In so WHEN i came in it Was Keisha, swanyer

3025
02:21:30,640 --> 02:21:33,040
Speaker 41: so she was she was one year ahead of, me

3026
02:21:33,320 --> 02:21:35,840
Speaker 41: so we. Didn't it was it was almost wide open

3027
02:21:35,920 --> 02:21:37,720
Speaker 41: in a. Sense so that's kind of HOW i was making.

3028
02:21:37,800 --> 02:21:38,000
Speaker 1: Mine.

3029
02:21:38,120 --> 02:21:40,840
Speaker 41: Yeah but WHEN i say before, ME i meant like

3030
02:21:41,040 --> 02:21:45,119
Speaker 41: a Superb Jennifer, rizzotti just that group of caliber of point.

3031
02:21:45,160 --> 02:21:47,440
Speaker 41: Guards so for, me for, me LIKE i, SAID i

3032
02:21:47,640 --> 02:21:49,640
Speaker 41: welcome that type of, Chang i'm, like, dang it's lit.

3033
02:21:49,720 --> 02:21:51,800
Speaker 41: Here so you have to you have to do something

3034
02:21:51,840 --> 02:21:53,920
Speaker 41: big to make an impact at a school like that And,

3035
02:21:54,800 --> 02:21:58,080
Speaker 41: yukon while everyone knows that we are good at, partying

3036
02:21:58,240 --> 02:22:01,240
Speaker 41: we played. Good we played in basketball. Too BUT i,

3037
02:22:01,280 --> 02:22:04,119
Speaker 41: think but it's like, No AND i say that because

3038
02:22:04,240 --> 02:22:06,440
Speaker 41: a lot of times it's like Stores, connecticut people are

3039
02:22:06,560 --> 02:22:08,400
Speaker 41: like what do you do up there other than? Party

3040
02:22:08,480 --> 02:22:11,560
Speaker 41: BUT i MEAN i think that the players we have a.

3041
02:22:11,640 --> 02:22:14,119
Speaker 41: Sisterhood you see us, now like we're all still, Close

3042
02:22:14,240 --> 02:22:16,240
Speaker 41: like it's not it's not like we're all still, Cool

3043
02:22:16,320 --> 02:22:19,000
Speaker 41: like we're all still. Close we got a group. Chat

3044
02:22:19,600 --> 02:22:21,120
Speaker 41: AND i think that's just the ties that we, Built

3045
02:22:21,160 --> 02:22:23,000
Speaker 41: like we build a real sisterhood. There AND i think

3046
02:22:23,080 --> 02:22:26,160
Speaker 41: that's the culture that they make you have because practices

3047
02:22:26,240 --> 02:22:28,520
Speaker 41: is so. Hard everything is so hard that you got

3048
02:22:28,640 --> 02:22:30,520
Speaker 41: a band, Together like we all got to be mad

3049
02:22:30,560 --> 02:22:33,520
Speaker 41: at coach together because we're not gonna beat him, Otherwise

3050
02:22:33,640 --> 02:22:36,240
Speaker 41: like they make you figure it out. Together so that's

3051
02:22:36,280 --> 02:22:38,120
Speaker 41: the THING i THINK i learned best At yukon just

3052
02:22:38,240 --> 02:22:41,040
Speaker 41: that He coach would do so many different. Things we

3053
02:22:41,120 --> 02:22:43,760
Speaker 41: have practice. Guys there will be like eight practice guys

3054
02:22:43,760 --> 02:22:45,600
Speaker 41: against us are five and we'd have to figure out

3055
02:22:45,640 --> 02:22:46,920
Speaker 41: a way to beat the trap and we'd have to

3056
02:22:46,959 --> 02:22:49,200
Speaker 41: do different. Things so he would always, say LIKE i

3057
02:22:49,280 --> 02:22:51,720
Speaker 41: don't really care what the circumstances give me a. Solution

3058
02:22:51,920 --> 02:22:55,080
Speaker 41: SO i think that's kind of my mentality now moving

3059
02:22:55,080 --> 02:22:57,440
Speaker 41: forward on, everything like all, right whatever the, circumstances there

3060
02:22:57,520 --> 02:22:59,840
Speaker 41: is a, Solution, like, YEAH i gotta find.

3061
02:22:59,879 --> 02:23:03,400
Speaker 1: It what was it like playing for him in, particular

3062
02:23:03,480 --> 02:23:06,520
Speaker 1: and maybe some advice that stuck with you early on

3063
02:23:06,800 --> 02:23:07,800
Speaker 1: that that they got you through.

3064
02:23:07,840 --> 02:23:10,400
Speaker 41: It there's so, much BUT i would say playing for

3065
02:23:10,480 --> 02:23:14,440
Speaker 41: him early, on people you, know they always say coach has,

3066
02:23:14,480 --> 02:23:17,120
Speaker 41: favorites and people like to label me as one of,

3067
02:23:17,200 --> 02:23:17,640
Speaker 41: those BUT.

3068
02:23:17,879 --> 02:23:19,200
Speaker 25: I, WAS i.

3069
02:23:19,480 --> 02:23:23,039
Speaker 41: WAS i still THINK i got yelled at. Song playing

3070
02:23:23,080 --> 02:23:26,040
Speaker 41: for him is like no other because everyone else on

3071
02:23:26,080 --> 02:23:28,240
Speaker 41: the other side hates, him and then you see like

3072
02:23:28,440 --> 02:23:30,720
Speaker 41: he's so down for you and he makes people math

3073
02:23:30,879 --> 02:23:33,720
Speaker 41: like he'll say whatever you probably think you're thinking as a,

3074
02:23:33,760 --> 02:23:36,200
Speaker 41: player he, say oh, yeah he's gonna say, it and

3075
02:23:36,240 --> 02:23:37,560
Speaker 41: he's gonna look at you in the face and be

3076
02:23:37,680 --> 02:23:39,960
Speaker 41: like and, like you, know he's gonna he's about that.

3077
02:23:40,120 --> 02:23:43,320
Speaker 41: Life and so playing for him it makes you like,

3078
02:23:43,520 --> 02:23:44,920
Speaker 41: proud like you want to prove, It like if he

3079
02:23:44,959 --> 02:23:50,680
Speaker 41: says something to the media like, listen, y'all you already

3080
02:23:50,720 --> 02:23:53,000
Speaker 41: Know coach said, That so like let's do our. Thing

3081
02:23:53,240 --> 02:23:55,840
Speaker 41: like just the advice that he always just gave us

3082
02:23:56,120 --> 02:23:59,680
Speaker 41: was that no one, Cares like like people think that

3083
02:24:00,200 --> 02:24:03,160
Speaker 41: people care about your. Situation no one, Cares like they don't.

3084
02:24:03,200 --> 02:24:05,680
Speaker 41: Care if we're battling, injuries they don't. Care if we

3085
02:24:05,840 --> 02:24:09,160
Speaker 41: have no. Seniors people never. Care and so once you

3086
02:24:09,320 --> 02:24:11,960
Speaker 41: realize that in all aspects of, life like your boss don't,

3087
02:24:11,959 --> 02:24:14,240
Speaker 41: care what's going on at, home you, know, like no one.

3088
02:24:14,400 --> 02:24:17,280
Speaker 41: Cares and so That's i've always kept that, mentality like

3089
02:24:17,280 --> 02:24:19,520
Speaker 41: people don't care why you're. Late you, late like people

3090
02:24:19,560 --> 02:24:21,120
Speaker 41: don't you know WHAT i, Mean like you just if

3091
02:24:21,160 --> 02:24:23,840
Speaker 41: you keep that mentality that no one cares figure it

3092
02:24:23,879 --> 02:24:26,720
Speaker 41: out and do it. Right that that's kind of what stuff.

3093
02:24:26,800 --> 02:24:30,200
Speaker 8: With, yeah what was your.

3094
02:24:30,160 --> 02:24:31,120
Speaker 5: First impression of? Life?

3095
02:24:31,200 --> 02:24:34,240
Speaker 41: MORE i remember SHE i remember playing pick up with,

3096
02:24:34,320 --> 02:24:36,720
Speaker 41: her And i'm, like she's, Different like you, know you

3097
02:24:36,800 --> 02:24:39,520
Speaker 41: can just or you just see people do stuff just

3098
02:24:39,680 --> 02:24:41,680
Speaker 41: like like what was? That like you know WHAT i

3099
02:24:41,760 --> 02:24:43,560
Speaker 41: mean when and then she does something else and you're, like,

3100
02:24:43,959 --> 02:24:47,720
Speaker 41: oh she's like she's legit and you just KNEW i,

3101
02:24:47,760 --> 02:24:49,400
Speaker 41: mean and She's and there's a lot of players that

3102
02:24:49,480 --> 02:24:51,480
Speaker 41: come out and just real. Talk there's a lot of

3103
02:24:51,560 --> 02:24:54,000
Speaker 41: players that get all kinds of hype and then when

3104
02:24:54,000 --> 02:24:55,920
Speaker 41: you see, them you'd be, like they're, okay you, know

3105
02:24:56,120 --> 02:24:58,000
Speaker 41: like they might be the best in that, class but

3106
02:24:58,080 --> 02:25:00,640
Speaker 41: that might be a weak, class so they're all. Right

3107
02:25:01,280 --> 02:25:03,520
Speaker 41: she had all the. Hype so you come in looking

3108
02:25:03,560 --> 02:25:06,199
Speaker 41: at her in that, lens and she had all the. Game,

3109
02:25:06,560 --> 02:25:09,320
Speaker 41: YEAH i mean as good as. Advertising just some of

3110
02:25:09,360 --> 02:25:12,160
Speaker 41: the stuff she would, do LIKE i would really just be, Like,

3111
02:25:12,480 --> 02:25:14,320
Speaker 41: MAMA i know you. Lying AND i got TO i

3112
02:25:14,400 --> 02:25:16,600
Speaker 41: got to play with her in college and in the,

3113
02:25:16,680 --> 02:25:19,520
Speaker 41: pros and so to see her in, college she already

3114
02:25:19,560 --> 02:25:22,520
Speaker 41: had that just raw natural. Ability she can do, everything

3115
02:25:23,080 --> 02:25:25,160
Speaker 41: but then to see her in the pros and like

3116
02:25:25,320 --> 02:25:28,120
Speaker 41: she had honed it, on like she knew she was a,

3117
02:25:28,240 --> 02:25:30,520
Speaker 41: killer and she was killing every. Night not that she

3118
02:25:30,640 --> 02:25:33,400
Speaker 41: wasn't in, college but you could just, tell you, know

3119
02:25:33,520 --> 02:25:35,560
Speaker 41: she's like one of those generational players that you talk.

3120
02:25:35,600 --> 02:25:36,920
Speaker 41: About you're not going to seem any more like.

3121
02:25:37,000 --> 02:25:38,600
Speaker 5: Her did you play With simon?

3122
02:25:38,680 --> 02:25:38,800
Speaker 1: Too?

3123
02:25:39,160 --> 02:25:39,600
Speaker 41: Oh you KNOW i?

3124
02:25:39,680 --> 02:25:43,400
Speaker 35: Did, yeah Our minnesota, TEAM i had a.

3125
02:25:43,520 --> 02:25:45,199
Speaker 8: MOB i Met Sylvia.

3126
02:25:44,920 --> 02:25:46,160
Speaker 41: Fowls was on that team as.

3127
02:25:46,200 --> 02:25:47,560
Speaker 1: Well we.

3128
02:25:47,680 --> 02:25:48,240
Speaker 22: Were we.

3129
02:25:48,360 --> 02:25:50,039
Speaker 41: Were that's why people THOUGHT i was crazy.

3130
02:25:52,480 --> 02:25:57,720
Speaker 1: Deep your senior year thirty nine and oh national champions

3131
02:25:58,720 --> 02:26:02,720
Speaker 1: anything that any doubt ever creeping anyone ever come close

3132
02:26:02,760 --> 02:26:04,880
Speaker 1: to knocking that crown off during that.

3133
02:26:05,040 --> 02:26:08,080
Speaker 41: RUN i, mean think about this going To yukon and

3134
02:26:08,200 --> 02:26:10,720
Speaker 41: not winning a. CHAMPIONSHIP i mean every TIME i tell,

3135
02:26:10,800 --> 02:26:12,440
Speaker 41: somebody go to you, con how many you? Want like

3136
02:26:12,520 --> 02:26:15,720
Speaker 41: that's the first question everybody. Asked my junior, YEAR i

3137
02:26:15,840 --> 02:26:18,040
Speaker 41: was sitting in the Gooseg so my senior, YEAR i

3138
02:26:18,320 --> 02:26:20,800
Speaker 41: WAS i would say. SCARED i was terrified to go

3139
02:26:20,879 --> 02:26:22,680
Speaker 41: down as the worst in. History they let us know

3140
02:26:22,760 --> 02:26:24,760
Speaker 41: we would be the worst, Two like the coaching staff

3141
02:26:24,800 --> 02:26:27,560
Speaker 41: would let us. Know like we always went, here you,

3142
02:26:27,640 --> 02:26:29,920
Speaker 41: know like you guys got to do. It SO i

3143
02:26:30,000 --> 02:26:32,800
Speaker 41: remember the. Preseason it started in preseason like WHERE i

3144
02:26:32,959 --> 02:26:36,160
Speaker 41: was turned up LIKE i, WAS i was, crazy Like

3145
02:26:36,240 --> 02:26:38,400
Speaker 41: i'm gonna lie LIKE i was on one BECAUSE i

3146
02:26:38,440 --> 02:26:40,960
Speaker 41: just didn't want to be that one that left without.

3147
02:26:41,040 --> 02:26:43,320
Speaker 41: It and then you get halfway through the, season we

3148
02:26:43,360 --> 02:26:45,520
Speaker 41: haven't lost the, game And i'm, like all, right that's.

3149
02:26:45,600 --> 02:26:47,080
Speaker 41: Dope but once you get towards the end of the

3150
02:26:47,120 --> 02:26:48,840
Speaker 41: season you haven't, won you don't want to be that

3151
02:26:48,920 --> 02:26:51,040
Speaker 41: first loss in the tournament you get bounced. Out SO

3152
02:26:52,160 --> 02:26:54,959
Speaker 41: i would say the whole SEASON i was we were.

3153
02:26:55,000 --> 02:26:57,040
Speaker 41: Tight and WHAT i mean by tight is, like you,

3154
02:26:57,120 --> 02:26:59,080
Speaker 41: know like we got to do everything right because we

3155
02:26:59,160 --> 02:27:00,960
Speaker 41: don't have any more. CHAIR i didn't have any more,

3156
02:27:01,080 --> 02:27:03,840
Speaker 41: chances and so my teammates treated it like they didn't have.

3157
02:27:03,920 --> 02:27:06,600
Speaker 41: Anymore and that was the dopest thing to. Me we

3158
02:27:06,680 --> 02:27:09,400
Speaker 41: had A Tina charles on that team may am more

3159
02:27:10,000 --> 02:27:12,200
Speaker 41: AND i think they wanted it more than me sometimes

3160
02:27:12,280 --> 02:27:13,920
Speaker 41: in the way that they would be offended if people

3161
02:27:13,959 --> 02:27:15,960
Speaker 41: weren't doing things, right because they would be like this

3162
02:27:16,120 --> 02:27:17,520
Speaker 41: is her last, year you, know like they would get

3163
02:27:17,520 --> 02:27:21,040
Speaker 41: onto people using that as the incentive and so that

3164
02:27:21,240 --> 02:27:23,680
Speaker 41: was probably the coolest part about that year is how

3165
02:27:23,800 --> 02:27:24,880
Speaker 41: much everyone wanted it for.

3166
02:27:25,080 --> 02:27:27,760
Speaker 1: Me you still were able to have fun, though even

3167
02:27:27,800 --> 02:27:29,320
Speaker 1: though you were okay.

3168
02:27:31,080 --> 02:27:33,200
Speaker 41: My senior, Year so let's be.

3169
02:27:33,360 --> 02:27:48,080
Speaker 10: Clear Coach, Johnson, man we was Playing villanova and dude

3170
02:27:48,160 --> 02:27:51,320
Speaker 10: had a sign that Said alan iverson the NEXT mj

3171
02:27:52,040 --> 02:27:55,800
Speaker 10: and HAD mj crossed out and HAD oj and it

3172
02:27:55,920 --> 02:27:58,959
Speaker 10: was three, DUDE i mean four dudes in the stands

3173
02:27:59,080 --> 02:28:03,320
Speaker 10: and they had on all orange jump shoots with chains

3174
02:28:03,440 --> 02:28:08,400
Speaker 10: and shackles and all, that And Coach thompson was, like,

3175
02:28:08,800 --> 02:28:11,120
Speaker 10: no if y'all don't get them out of, here if

3176
02:28:11,160 --> 02:28:13,360
Speaker 10: y'all don't get them out of this gym right, now

3177
02:28:14,080 --> 02:28:17,440
Speaker 10: we not, playing and they escorted them out of there

3178
02:28:18,040 --> 02:28:22,080
Speaker 10: and the game went. On that, dude LIKE i remember

3179
02:28:22,520 --> 02:28:25,560
Speaker 10: just being at the free throw line WHEN i WHEN

3180
02:28:25,600 --> 02:28:30,400
Speaker 10: i came To georgetown and everybody just screaming jail, bird jail,

3181
02:28:30,600 --> 02:28:33,680
Speaker 10: bird jail. Bird AND i had to deal with all,

3182
02:28:33,760 --> 02:28:38,120
Speaker 10: that and he was so protective of, me, man you

3183
02:28:38,200 --> 02:28:40,120
Speaker 10: know WHAT i, Mean like even the first night THAT

3184
02:28:40,240 --> 02:28:44,360
Speaker 10: i was on, campus he came up, there they and,

3185
02:28:44,640 --> 02:28:48,160
Speaker 10: Everybody Coach, thompson you, Know i'm doing the ship THAT

3186
02:28:48,200 --> 02:28:48,920
Speaker 10: i don't supposed to.

3187
02:28:48,959 --> 02:28:50,400
Speaker 8: Do you know WHAT i, Mean.

3188
02:28:52,440 --> 02:28:57,040
Speaker 10: I'm, Smoking you know WHAT i, Mean i'm all back, Then, yeah, yeah,

3189
02:28:57,600 --> 02:29:01,240
Speaker 10: Man i'm smoking. Whatever Coach tom came up there and

3190
02:29:01,280 --> 02:29:02,640
Speaker 10: it was Like Coach thompson looking at.

3191
02:29:02,640 --> 02:29:02,680
Speaker 1: You.

3192
02:29:04,320 --> 02:29:08,039
Speaker 10: MAN i, remember just trying to get myself, together went

3193
02:29:08,440 --> 02:29:08,720
Speaker 10: washed my.

3194
02:29:08,879 --> 02:29:12,400
Speaker 1: Face you know WHAT i, Mean you can't watch the

3195
02:29:12,480 --> 02:29:12,920
Speaker 1: high off.

3196
02:29:12,959 --> 02:29:15,320
Speaker 24: Man, no but he.

3197
02:29:15,680 --> 02:29:18,040
Speaker 37: Ain't, no he like you think he.

3198
02:29:18,160 --> 02:29:20,240
Speaker 5: Ain't he, knew, bro.

3199
02:29:21,680 --> 02:29:23,960
Speaker 8: Come, on you KNOW i came on.

3200
02:29:24,080 --> 02:29:26,680
Speaker 10: There he was like you, alright a little man like,

3201
02:29:26,840 --> 02:29:30,360
Speaker 10: YEAH i was trying to get away from him so,

3202
02:29:30,560 --> 02:29:32,400
Speaker 10: fast Like i'm.

3203
02:29:32,480 --> 02:29:32,720
Speaker 8: Cool.

3204
02:29:32,800 --> 02:29:35,080
Speaker 10: Coach he telling, me why you standing so far back?

3205
02:29:35,160 --> 02:29:40,279
Speaker 10: There come come? Here so now you're telling me he probably.

3206
02:29:40,320 --> 02:29:45,720
Speaker 10: Knew probably this little motherfucker high as hell.

3207
02:29:45,720 --> 02:29:48,600
Speaker 1: Man you know WHAT i, Mean like you, said, protected

3208
02:29:49,000 --> 02:29:49,240
Speaker 1: but he.

3209
02:29:49,480 --> 02:29:51,760
Speaker 10: Was he was like and he always talked about the

3210
02:29:51,840 --> 02:29:55,640
Speaker 10: fact THAT i never complained about them people throwing me

3211
02:29:55,720 --> 02:29:58,600
Speaker 10: in jail like that when people try to at. HOME

3212
02:29:58,720 --> 02:30:02,240
Speaker 10: i LOVE i Love virginia AND i rep it to the.

3213
02:30:02,320 --> 02:30:05,280
Speaker 10: Fullest but they tried to ruin. Me they didn't want

3214
02:30:05,640 --> 02:30:09,760
Speaker 10: they didn't want me to be what you just described

3215
02:30:10,480 --> 02:30:13,480
Speaker 10: and WHO i am to the. Masses you know WHAT i.

3216
02:30:13,560 --> 02:30:16,120
Speaker 10: Mean they didn't want for me to go to any

3217
02:30:16,200 --> 02:30:18,000
Speaker 10: country in the. World as soon AS i get off the,

3218
02:30:18,080 --> 02:30:20,320
Speaker 10: plane everybody in the airport.

3219
02:30:20,480 --> 02:30:20,920
Speaker 8: Know WHO i.

3220
02:30:21,000 --> 02:30:24,280
Speaker 10: Am they didn't want. That it was certain people that

3221
02:30:24,400 --> 02:30:26,920
Speaker 10: didn't want. That the the guy that locked me, up

3222
02:30:27,080 --> 02:30:30,280
Speaker 10: that threw me in, jail he, died and me and

3223
02:30:30,400 --> 02:30:32,039
Speaker 10: my baby girl sent his family.

3224
02:30:32,280 --> 02:30:32,720
Speaker 5: FLOWERS.

3225
02:30:32,840 --> 02:30:35,400
Speaker 10: Mm you ain't do nothing but make me.

3226
02:30:35,480 --> 02:30:36,480
Speaker 5: Stronger straight.

3227
02:30:36,600 --> 02:30:38,720
Speaker 10: Up that's all you did was made me. STRONG i

3228
02:30:38,840 --> 02:30:42,360
Speaker 10: needed you in my. LIFE i needed. You you was

3229
02:30:42,840 --> 02:30:45,560
Speaker 10: you Was you was monumental in my. Life you was

3230
02:30:46,120 --> 02:30:48,400
Speaker 10: you was an intricate part of my. Life you touched

3231
02:30:48,440 --> 02:30:49,640
Speaker 10: on my next, Question what did you?

3232
02:30:49,800 --> 02:30:52,560
Speaker 1: LEARN i, mean that was obviously a highly publicized incident

3233
02:30:52,640 --> 02:30:54,640
Speaker 1: in the bowling alley, that like you, said nearly injured

3234
02:30:54,680 --> 02:30:56,760
Speaker 1: you before you really got. Started what did you learn

3235
02:30:56,800 --> 02:31:01,200
Speaker 1: about yourself and your views on just what kind of

3236
02:31:01,320 --> 02:31:02,120
Speaker 1: threat they saw you?

3237
02:31:02,240 --> 02:31:02,400
Speaker 23: As?

3238
02:31:02,640 --> 02:31:06,280
Speaker 10: Matt WHAT i learned WAS i knew THAT i was

3239
02:31:06,360 --> 02:31:09,440
Speaker 10: young and immature because of being in. JAIL i wasn't

3240
02:31:09,440 --> 02:31:12,120
Speaker 10: even scared LIKE i wasn't EVEN i would like, now

3241
02:31:12,400 --> 02:31:14,400
Speaker 10: you know WHAT i, mean if IF i was to

3242
02:31:14,480 --> 02:31:16,840
Speaker 10: go to Jail right, NOW i would be terrified Because i'm.

3243
02:31:16,879 --> 02:31:21,000
Speaker 10: Older i'm not immature LIKE i was back. Then back,

3244
02:31:21,080 --> 02:31:23,720
Speaker 10: THEN i was just man's what? Up back, THEN i

3245
02:31:23,760 --> 02:31:25,920
Speaker 10: would do a dumb. Ass first of, ALL i was

3246
02:31:25,959 --> 02:31:28,000
Speaker 10: the worst rapper in the, world you know WHAT i.

3247
02:31:28,040 --> 02:31:30,440
Speaker 10: MEAN i was doing. IT i wouldn't say, that BUT

3248
02:31:30,560 --> 02:31:35,120
Speaker 10: i was doing it because my. Homeboys that was what

3249
02:31:35,320 --> 02:31:39,560
Speaker 10: they wanted to. Do so the opportunity presented itself AND

3250
02:31:39,680 --> 02:31:42,280
Speaker 10: i could help. Them so that's WHY i did, it

3251
02:31:42,520 --> 02:31:44,360
Speaker 10: you know WHAT i. Mean LIKE i learned from. Them

3252
02:31:45,480 --> 02:31:48,800
Speaker 10: didn't learn, well BUT i learned from, them you know

3253
02:31:48,800 --> 02:31:51,360
Speaker 10: WHAT i. Mean but back, Then, MATT i was so,

3254
02:31:52,520 --> 02:31:56,080
Speaker 10: nonchalant and the only thing THAT i was scared of

3255
02:31:56,600 --> 02:32:01,600
Speaker 10: is that my dream of being Who mo molded me

3256
02:32:01,760 --> 02:32:05,840
Speaker 10: to be as an athlete was gonna be. Over like

3257
02:32:06,400 --> 02:32:08,800
Speaker 10: the old head people in my, LIFE i just never

3258
02:32:08,879 --> 02:32:12,600
Speaker 10: wanted to disappoint, them you know WHAT i. Mean you

3259
02:32:12,680 --> 02:32:15,680
Speaker 10: KNOW i had that, fear not Of mo kicking my.

3260
02:32:15,800 --> 02:32:18,600
Speaker 10: Ass he did that a couple of. Times it almost

3261
02:32:18,680 --> 02:32:21,120
Speaker 10: threw me through a windshield, before you know WHAT i,

3262
02:32:21,200 --> 02:32:26,520
Speaker 10: Mean but just not being Who god gave you the

3263
02:32:26,640 --> 02:32:31,640
Speaker 10: talent to be, You, Matt. Barnes, You Steve, jackson you

3264
02:32:31,840 --> 02:32:34,680
Speaker 10: supposed to be What god gave you the talent to

3265
02:32:34,959 --> 02:32:38,160
Speaker 10: end up, being you know WHAT i. Mean and that

3266
02:32:38,360 --> 02:32:42,920
Speaker 10: was my. Fear that was my fear letting, down letting them.

3267
02:32:42,959 --> 02:32:46,360
Speaker 10: Down and then the fact of Like Coach thompson used

3268
02:32:46,360 --> 02:32:49,480
Speaker 10: to tell, me, oh you of this. Motherfucker you eating

3269
02:32:49,560 --> 02:32:50,160
Speaker 10: three times a.

3270
02:32:50,240 --> 02:32:50,360
Speaker 5: Day?

3271
02:32:50,440 --> 02:32:52,680
Speaker 10: Huh you eating, Breakfast you ain't, lunch you ain't. Dinner

3272
02:32:53,000 --> 02:32:56,200
Speaker 10: but your mom down there and some days she don't even,

3273
02:32:56,240 --> 02:32:59,200
Speaker 10: eat she living down, there and that the.

3274
02:32:59,320 --> 02:32:59,560
Speaker 5: Week.

3275
02:32:59,680 --> 02:33:02,640
Speaker 10: Uh my homeboys used to tease, me they called it

3276
02:33:02,959 --> 02:33:06,560
Speaker 10: the dods affect ship straight from the sewer because in our,

3277
02:33:06,720 --> 02:33:10,960
Speaker 10: crib we had the, uh we had the crib and

3278
02:33:11,360 --> 02:33:13,240
Speaker 10: we never could be bad for it in our house

3279
02:33:13,280 --> 02:33:17,160
Speaker 10: because the sewer from up under the. House he used to. Do,

3280
02:33:18,200 --> 02:33:20,440
Speaker 10: yeah and it's just, wet like you're walking through the

3281
02:33:20,840 --> 02:33:24,680
Speaker 10: motherfucking crib and it's just you know WHAT i, Mean

3282
02:33:24,760 --> 02:33:26,760
Speaker 10: and it's stinking like a. Motherfucker cut the lights. On

3283
02:33:27,000 --> 02:33:31,000
Speaker 10: roaches running there and god damn where no, water no hot,

3284
02:33:31,120 --> 02:33:33,680
Speaker 10: water you know WHAT i? Mean no, food baking, soda

3285
02:33:33,800 --> 02:33:34,280
Speaker 10: what baking?

3286
02:33:34,360 --> 02:33:34,840
Speaker 5: Soda and.

3287
02:33:36,680 --> 02:33:40,160
Speaker 10: Warfare cheese and the. Motherfucker and he used to you,

3288
02:33:40,280 --> 02:33:42,320
Speaker 10: Know that's what was his way of getting to. Me,

3289
02:33:42,879 --> 02:33:44,720
Speaker 10: oh you want your mama.

3290
02:33:44,600 --> 02:33:47,480
Speaker 6: To stay right by fucking, around that's what you're. Doing,

3291
02:33:47,720 --> 02:33:50,480
Speaker 6: yeah keep keep living like, this. RIGHT i ain't gonna

3292
02:33:50,560 --> 02:33:52,680
Speaker 6: argue with. YOU i ain't gonna cut you, out you

3293
02:33:52,720 --> 02:33:54,120
Speaker 6: know WHAT i. MEAN i ain't GONNA i ain't gonna

3294
02:33:54,160 --> 02:33:56,360
Speaker 6: talk no shit to. You i'm just gonna tell, you

3295
02:33:57,400 --> 02:33:59,080
Speaker 6: this is what you want for your mom and your.

3296
02:33:59,160 --> 02:34:04,240
Speaker 10: Sisters. Right AND i could just snap out of The

3297
02:34:04,320 --> 02:34:06,800
Speaker 10: steve m you know WHAT i, mean and go get

3298
02:34:06,920 --> 02:34:09,320
Speaker 10: right back on on on on my.

3299
02:34:09,480 --> 02:34:10,680
Speaker 5: Path BUT i don't.

3300
02:34:10,680 --> 02:34:12,600
Speaker 10: KNOW I i KNOW i went all over the place

3301
02:34:13,040 --> 02:34:13,920
Speaker 10: from what you aksed.

3302
02:34:13,959 --> 02:34:16,760
Speaker 1: Me but, nah we needed. That we want. That what's

3303
02:34:16,800 --> 02:34:19,240
Speaker 1: what we wanna. Learn we spoke on two people obviously

3304
02:34:19,360 --> 02:34:21,960
Speaker 1: want being Here mo and Then John. Thompson it sounds

3305
02:34:22,080 --> 02:34:23,879
Speaker 1: like to me from the outside looking, in with two

3306
02:34:24,360 --> 02:34:26,440
Speaker 1: integral figures in your life and kind of kept you

3307
02:34:26,640 --> 02:34:29,400
Speaker 1: from making all these lefts and rights and kept you going.

3308
02:34:29,400 --> 02:34:31,240
Speaker 1: Straight talk to us a little bit about both. Them

3309
02:34:31,280 --> 02:34:33,680
Speaker 1: obviously we just, lost you, know one of the greatest

3310
02:34:33,720 --> 02:34:35,720
Speaker 1: coaches of all, time rest In. Peach Coach, Thompson BUT

3311
02:34:35,760 --> 02:34:38,680
Speaker 1: i know he was intricral, in you, know keeping you

3312
02:34:38,760 --> 02:34:40,720
Speaker 1: on the right. Path what he used to tell me

3313
02:34:40,800 --> 02:34:44,960
Speaker 1: about all the time is the shit THAT i was

3314
02:34:45,040 --> 02:34:47,280
Speaker 1: just talking to you. About he, SAID i ain't never

3315
02:34:47,400 --> 02:34:50,360
Speaker 1: complain for what they did to. Me he always talked

3316
02:34:50,400 --> 02:34:53,360
Speaker 1: about how he admired me for what they did for

3317
02:34:53,520 --> 02:34:55,960
Speaker 1: me and being that young and not.

3318
02:34:56,120 --> 02:35:00,240
Speaker 10: Complain but my whole thing Was god gave me an another,

3319
02:35:00,400 --> 02:35:03,520
Speaker 10: chance so it won't no need to complain BECAUSE i

3320
02:35:03,600 --> 02:35:06,040
Speaker 10: got a. Chance Like i'm recruited by everybody in the

3321
02:35:06,080 --> 02:35:11,760
Speaker 10: whole country and both, sports, everybody and the situation happened with,

3322
02:35:11,920 --> 02:35:17,200
Speaker 10: me and they almost got away with, It, Steve they

3323
02:35:17,440 --> 02:35:21,320
Speaker 10: almost got away with it because if my mom didn't

3324
02:35:21,320 --> 02:35:24,240
Speaker 10: go up there and beg him to save my, life

3325
02:35:28,320 --> 02:35:32,680
Speaker 10: it wouldn't be No Alan, harrison the cultural. Icon did

3326
02:35:32,760 --> 02:35:36,800
Speaker 10: everybody know if he didn't give me a. Chance he

3327
02:35:36,920 --> 02:35:39,600
Speaker 10: gave me a. Chance you remember What John thompson was

3328
02:35:40,400 --> 02:35:45,840
Speaker 10: known As Alonzo, patrick the ken bade the big man Coach.

3329
02:35:45,800 --> 02:35:49,680
Speaker 6: Marcus, ALLEN i mean Not Marcus, Allen alan so another

3330
02:35:49,720 --> 02:35:51,320
Speaker 6: big man they had another seven for the last name

3331
02:35:51,320 --> 02:35:51,960
Speaker 6: Was allen from my.

3332
02:35:52,000 --> 02:35:54,000
Speaker 5: Hometown well it was.

3333
02:35:54,120 --> 02:35:57,200
Speaker 10: It was big, man and and everybody always talked about

3334
02:35:57,480 --> 02:36:04,280
Speaker 10: how he could coach. Guards but, then all of a,

3335
02:36:04,320 --> 02:36:10,600
Speaker 10: sudden when you think Of, georgetown much AS i Love

3336
02:36:10,760 --> 02:36:13,320
Speaker 10: pat much AS i loved Long as so much AS

3337
02:36:13,360 --> 02:36:15,640
Speaker 10: i love To ken, bait, man It's bubba.

3338
02:36:15,760 --> 02:36:25,360
Speaker 6: Chump you're, six five or thirteen years, old fellow lovels

3339
02:36:25,400 --> 02:36:26,360
Speaker 6: hoop and Watching patrick?

3340
02:36:26,400 --> 02:36:29,360
Speaker 5: Ewing what role Did? Patrick you didn't play on your

3341
02:36:29,680 --> 02:36:30,400
Speaker 5: on basketball FOR.

3342
02:36:30,520 --> 02:36:32,600
Speaker 42: I, mean he played an incredible role because at that,

3343
02:36:32,800 --> 02:36:38,640
Speaker 42: time you KNOW ncaa, basketball what's?

3344
02:36:38,840 --> 02:36:40,640
Speaker 1: Huge back?

3345
02:36:40,760 --> 02:36:45,320
Speaker 42: Then five slam In. GAMA i, MEAN i, mean You,

3346
02:36:46,080 --> 02:36:50,360
Speaker 42: david you Know georgetown back Then? CAROLINA i, mean come, on,

3347
02:36:50,520 --> 02:36:53,120
Speaker 42: man it was. Everything so as a, KID i was

3348
02:36:53,240 --> 02:36:58,800
Speaker 42: tuned in right so and back doing that championship game

3349
02:36:58,840 --> 02:37:02,520
Speaker 42: when they Played, carolina uh and Watching patrick block all those. Shots,

3350
02:37:02,600 --> 02:37:05,680
Speaker 42: MAN i was enamored by. THAT i was, LIKE i

3351
02:37:05,760 --> 02:37:09,280
Speaker 42: want to do, that AND i kind of pattered my

3352
02:37:09,400 --> 02:37:14,400
Speaker 42: game after. Him and you, KNOW i loved the starter

3353
02:37:14,600 --> 02:37:17,000
Speaker 42: jackets and the gear and all that. Stuff growing. UP

3354
02:37:17,040 --> 02:37:22,920
Speaker 42: i was attracted to the joy with everything everything that Represented.

3355
02:37:22,959 --> 02:37:27,920
Speaker 42: GEORGETOWN i was attracted to it and the rest's. History you,

3356
02:37:28,000 --> 02:37:31,720
Speaker 42: Know patrick ended up being somewhat a mentor to. Me

3357
02:37:32,680 --> 02:37:35,720
Speaker 42: AND i remember being in The NIKE abcd camp In,

3358
02:37:35,920 --> 02:37:40,360
Speaker 42: princeton AND i Remember Sean, Kemp Billy, ONES i, mean

3359
02:37:40,440 --> 02:37:42,200
Speaker 42: the whole crop was. THERE i mean it was we

3360
02:37:42,320 --> 02:37:48,680
Speaker 42: were all on display In princeton And Big john h

3361
02:37:49,160 --> 02:37:53,720
Speaker 42: Called patrick. Up patrick drove down From New york and

3362
02:37:54,240 --> 02:37:56,920
Speaker 42: uh he was sitting in the stands With Big. John

3363
02:37:57,080 --> 02:38:00,320
Speaker 42: and AS i was on the floor, stretching getting ready

3364
02:38:00,360 --> 02:38:04,600
Speaker 42: for the, games AND i felt somebody tap me on

3365
02:38:04,720 --> 02:38:05,840
Speaker 42: the shoulder and it was it Was.

3366
02:38:05,959 --> 02:38:10,760
Speaker 5: PATRICK i was, like SO i had to put on

3367
02:38:10,840 --> 02:38:13,400
Speaker 5: THE i had to put on the. Show yeah, yeah,

3368
02:38:14,280 --> 02:38:16,320
Speaker 5: yeah yeah yeah.

3369
02:38:16,480 --> 02:38:21,880
Speaker 42: Man so, Yeah now we've developed this brotherly type of,

3370
02:38:21,959 --> 02:38:28,160
Speaker 42: relationship you, know between uh, myself him and the kentbe you.

3371
02:38:28,240 --> 02:38:32,080
Speaker 5: Know and, Uh Big john instilled a lot in, us

3372
02:38:32,360 --> 02:38:33,760
Speaker 5: a whole lot of us over the.

3373
02:38:33,879 --> 02:38:37,840
Speaker 42: Years god rest his soul Because Big john played the

3374
02:38:37,920 --> 02:38:40,800
Speaker 42: center position and he played behind one of the greatest

3375
02:38:41,200 --> 02:38:44,360
Speaker 42: to ever do, it In Bill. Russell So Big john

3376
02:38:44,480 --> 02:38:48,760
Speaker 42: instilled all of, that all of that knowledge in us

3377
02:38:49,560 --> 02:38:53,280
Speaker 42: through throughout his tutelage of. Doing during my years At.

3378
02:38:53,200 --> 02:38:56,080
Speaker 6: GEORGIA i got a short story About Big. John we

3379
02:38:56,200 --> 02:38:59,360
Speaker 6: was In Golden state together AND i just came from

3380
02:38:59,400 --> 02:39:00,959
Speaker 6: the team AND i. BEHIND i had a little trouble

3381
02:39:01,000 --> 02:39:04,879
Speaker 6: the two seasons, before BUT i had an interesting story

3382
02:39:04,920 --> 02:39:06,560
Speaker 6: AND i was coming back playing well and. Junk they

3383
02:39:06,560 --> 02:39:08,960
Speaker 6: wanted to do. It jones working for TN t and

3384
02:39:09,040 --> 02:39:11,480
Speaker 6: they was doing through That sunday special On Baron. Davis,

3385
02:39:12,120 --> 02:39:14,680
Speaker 6: well he convinced them to do it on me and

3386
02:39:14,760 --> 02:39:17,080
Speaker 6: tell my. Story had my mom come because it was

3387
02:39:17,120 --> 02:39:19,720
Speaker 6: A Mother's day, game and he did a story on me.

3388
02:39:19,760 --> 02:39:21,400
Speaker 5: And my mom For Mother's. Day but he FORCED t

3389
02:39:21,520 --> 02:39:23,240
Speaker 5: AND t to do, That so that shows the.

3390
02:39:23,320 --> 02:39:25,520
Speaker 6: Character, yeah and it meant a lot to me BECAUSE

3391
02:39:25,520 --> 02:39:27,720
Speaker 6: i needed at the time BECAUSE i was getting so

3392
02:39:27,840 --> 02:39:29,959
Speaker 6: much bad. Press he wanted to get me some good

3393
02:39:30,000 --> 02:39:34,720
Speaker 6: press On Mother's day with my. Mama so, yeah, yeah

3394
02:39:35,120 --> 02:39:37,000
Speaker 6: and like my mama tell this story to, hus she

3395
02:39:37,040 --> 02:39:39,240
Speaker 6: gets tear outed because she knew WHAT i was going

3396
02:39:39,280 --> 02:39:41,000
Speaker 6: through at the. Time so for me and her to

3397
02:39:41,040 --> 02:39:43,160
Speaker 6: do that on NATIONAL, tv it was. Great SO i

3398
02:39:43,320 --> 02:39:43,760
Speaker 6: was at The Big.

3399
02:39:43,879 --> 02:39:50,080
Speaker 42: John, yeah you know when When john walked out of

3400
02:39:50,240 --> 02:39:56,600
Speaker 42: that that game Protesting prop forty. Two that was huge

3401
02:39:58,560 --> 02:40:05,840
Speaker 42: for all young black athletes and it just defined the

3402
02:40:06,040 --> 02:40:11,040
Speaker 42: character of Who Big john was all, about you, know

3403
02:40:12,080 --> 02:40:14,960
Speaker 42: he was about bringing up the next generation man and he,

3404
02:40:15,160 --> 02:40:19,200
Speaker 42: knows he knew that if that was, implemented then that

3405
02:40:19,280 --> 02:40:22,000
Speaker 42: would have kept a lot of young people of color

3406
02:40:22,120 --> 02:40:25,800
Speaker 42: from getting quality education and experience.

3407
02:40:25,320 --> 02:40:29,200
Speaker 5: In higher learning and getting an. Opportunity you.

3408
02:40:29,320 --> 02:40:32,200
Speaker 42: Know so that kind of speaks to the man that he,

3409
02:40:32,480 --> 02:40:36,000
Speaker 42: was you, know and he taught us, accordingly you, know

3410
02:40:36,280 --> 02:40:37,480
Speaker 42: based on those.

3411
02:40:37,520 --> 02:40:38,880
Speaker 5: Things his gym was like his.

3412
02:40:38,959 --> 02:40:43,480
Speaker 42: Classroom he received a lot of criticism because he closed his,

3413
02:40:43,560 --> 02:40:46,280
Speaker 42: doors he didn't allow any, media and because he wanted

3414
02:40:46,320 --> 02:40:50,440
Speaker 42: to teach us the way actions without a, distraction without

3415
02:40:50,520 --> 02:40:59,600
Speaker 42: being dissected or. Ridiculed for his teaching tactics they worked for.

3416
02:40:59,840 --> 02:41:04,320
Speaker 42: Us we all turn out, all you, know because of.

3417
02:41:04,400 --> 02:41:06,760
Speaker 42: It you know What i'm, saying it was tough love.

3418
02:41:06,920 --> 02:41:09,640
Speaker 42: Too it was a tough love type of teaching type of.

3419
02:41:09,680 --> 02:41:11,240
Speaker 42: Coaching what we, needed, though.

3420
02:41:12,520 --> 02:41:14,880
Speaker 1: Was love behind. Them AND i feel like that's what

3421
02:41:15,120 --> 02:41:18,240
Speaker 1: can't be translated these. Days everything we're saying is coming

3422
02:41:18,280 --> 02:41:19,880
Speaker 1: from a place of, love but it just it's not

3423
02:41:20,000 --> 02:41:22,440
Speaker 1: translated the, same you, know individuals are trying to give

3424
02:41:22,440 --> 02:41:22,560
Speaker 1: it To.

3425
02:41:22,800 --> 02:41:24,680
Speaker 5: No, no you're, Right you're definitely right about.

3426
02:41:24,720 --> 02:41:27,400
Speaker 1: That and then now.

3427
02:41:28,920 --> 02:41:32,640
Speaker 42: Players don't receive it quite like we received it back.

3428
02:41:32,720 --> 02:41:36,840
Speaker 42: Then LIKE i, said you, know the word fragile is

3429
02:41:37,000 --> 02:41:41,279
Speaker 42: used quite a bit because unfortunately it's hard.

3430
02:41:41,120 --> 02:41:44,360
Speaker 5: To say the things that need to be said to.

3431
02:41:44,440 --> 02:41:47,560
Speaker 42: People it's hard to say those things that need to

3432
02:41:47,640 --> 02:41:51,680
Speaker 42: be said to these, players you, know because they take

3433
02:41:51,720 --> 02:41:54,200
Speaker 42: offense to, it and you know they're fragile from that,

3434
02:41:54,320 --> 02:41:59,000
Speaker 42: perspective you, know when ultimately it's about helping you improve

3435
02:41:59,120 --> 02:41:59,560
Speaker 42: your way of.

3436
02:41:59,680 --> 02:42:01,440
Speaker 1: Thinking that's, right that's what we were talking to.

3437
02:42:03,760 --> 02:42:06,280
Speaker 5: Prove your way of, thanking you, know so you can be.

3438
02:42:06,360 --> 02:42:08,480
Speaker 5: Successful that's all it's.

3439
02:42:08,520 --> 02:42:19,520
Speaker 1: About you LED sc to back to back national titles

3440
02:42:19,640 --> 02:42:21,040
Speaker 1: and we're named. TOURNAMENT i was.

3441
02:42:21,160 --> 02:42:23,280
Speaker 34: ONE i was one of many on that.

3442
02:42:23,400 --> 02:42:27,520
Speaker 1: Team yeah you, helped thank, You, yes thank. YOU i.

3443
02:42:27,640 --> 02:42:30,640
Speaker 34: ASSISTED i love THAT i. Assisted but you.

3444
02:42:30,680 --> 02:42:32,800
Speaker 1: Were also NAMED mvp both, times so you did a

3445
02:42:32,840 --> 02:42:35,760
Speaker 1: little bit more than. That what was the environment like back,

3446
02:42:35,840 --> 02:42:39,160
Speaker 1: THEN i, mean obviously the. Press i'm A ucla, guy

3447
02:42:39,160 --> 02:42:40,800
Speaker 1: but always had a lot of respect for WHAT sc

3448
02:42:41,000 --> 02:42:44,760
Speaker 1: has always meant in the sports. World what WAS la

3449
02:42:44,920 --> 02:42:45,600
Speaker 1: like back then for?

3450
02:42:45,760 --> 02:42:48,160
Speaker 34: You and this is the one thing that did bother,

3451
02:42:48,320 --> 02:42:51,160
Speaker 34: me you, know forget you SAID la you, know just the.

3452
02:42:51,400 --> 02:42:55,480
Speaker 34: Rivalry what really used to mess with all the, sisters

3453
02:42:55,600 --> 02:43:00,200
Speaker 34: like the female athletes AT. Sc why did all the

3454
02:43:00,280 --> 02:43:02,080
Speaker 34: good looking brothers go TO U s L.

3455
02:43:02,120 --> 02:43:06,680
Speaker 1: A i don't, know, REAL.

3456
02:43:08,800 --> 02:43:12,160
Speaker 32: I don't, KNOW i don't, KNOW i don't Know, Jack,

3457
02:43:12,360 --> 02:43:16,160
Speaker 32: like that's not just you, KNOW i, mean oh my,

3458
02:43:16,440 --> 02:43:18,000
Speaker 32: god DID i need to hear this?

3459
02:43:18,200 --> 02:43:20,440
Speaker 5: Today this is this is why Our.

3460
02:43:20,440 --> 02:43:25,160
Speaker 34: Liz was, like come, on but, yeah, yeah but, Anyways

3461
02:43:26,640 --> 02:43:30,920
Speaker 34: i'm just thinking about all the guys that, okay cat

3462
02:43:30,959 --> 02:43:32,279
Speaker 34: me go Somewhere russian.

3463
02:43:37,000 --> 02:43:40,960
Speaker 1: Never you're, saying huh what was? THAT i, MEAN i,

3464
02:43:41,080 --> 02:43:43,400
Speaker 1: remember you, know us playing. There we never really looked at.

3465
02:43:43,440 --> 02:43:46,120
Speaker 1: IT i don't think maybe the school or that the

3466
02:43:46,280 --> 02:43:48,400
Speaker 1: students looked at. It LIKE i didn't have an issue

3467
02:43:48,480 --> 02:43:51,680
Speaker 1: with nobody on S. C i actually LOVED sc football

3468
02:43:51,879 --> 02:43:54,199
Speaker 1: because that's back when they Had Reggie bush and all those. Guys,

3469
02:43:54,320 --> 02:43:56,360
Speaker 1: like did you guys look at it as like F

3470
02:43:56,480 --> 02:43:58,560
Speaker 1: U c L. A or was it just more? Fun it?

3471
02:43:58,720 --> 02:44:01,680
Speaker 34: Was it Was it was a RIVALRY usc in the, hood,

3472
02:44:01,720 --> 02:44:02,080
Speaker 34: though ain't.

3473
02:44:02,080 --> 02:44:02,120
Speaker 24: It?

3474
02:44:02,280 --> 02:44:05,480
Speaker 34: Yeah oh back in the. Day, oh back in the.

3475
02:44:05,600 --> 02:44:07,280
Speaker 34: Day it was, like you, know you get your game

3476
02:44:07,360 --> 02:44:09,040
Speaker 34: on like this and then you, know you cross the.

3477
02:44:09,080 --> 02:44:11,680
Speaker 8: Street yeah, yeah, YEAH i heard, yeah.

3478
02:44:13,760 --> 02:44:15,680
Speaker 5: Making sure you, know in the middle of.

3479
02:44:15,840 --> 02:44:18,040
Speaker 1: It it was no.

3480
02:44:18,400 --> 02:44:22,000
Speaker 34: Joke you turned down that wrong alley if you want.

3481
02:44:22,080 --> 02:44:26,680
Speaker 34: To and that was another. Thing, yeah we we lived

3482
02:44:26,760 --> 02:44:27,760
Speaker 34: in Real Los.

3483
02:44:27,800 --> 02:44:31,080
Speaker 5: Angeles you got up on the, yeah, yeah, Yeah I'm

3484
02:44:31,320 --> 02:44:37,920
Speaker 5: i'm more usc yeah yeah about.

3485
02:44:38,080 --> 02:44:43,440
Speaker 34: That but when it came when it came to to

3486
02:44:43,600 --> 02:44:48,480
Speaker 34: basketball And, reggie, YEAH i MEAN i wouldn't wear anything

3487
02:44:48,600 --> 02:44:51,000
Speaker 34: you se l. A BUT i made sure that there

3488
02:44:51,080 --> 02:44:53,080
Speaker 34: was nobody up in the stands that had a thought

3489
02:44:53,120 --> 02:44:53,320
Speaker 34: in their.

3490
02:44:53,400 --> 02:44:55,840
Speaker 5: Mouth, yeah, YEAH i love, it do.

3491
02:44:56,320 --> 02:44:58,160
Speaker 1: It this is the SAME i, mean the same time

3492
02:44:58,280 --> 02:45:03,440
Speaker 1: you're you're winning, championships The Showtime lakers are winning championships as.

3493
02:45:03,480 --> 02:45:04,480
Speaker 5: Well so what we.

3494
02:45:06,360 --> 02:45:06,680
Speaker 8: Were.

3495
02:45:06,800 --> 02:45:12,279
Speaker 34: Showtime, look our our practices were. Brutal i've Got Cynthia

3496
02:45:12,400 --> 02:45:18,200
Speaker 34: cooper running her. Mouth Tracy, longo nobody, remember well she

3497
02:45:18,480 --> 02:45:21,360
Speaker 34: was my, height white girl that could jump out the,

3498
02:45:21,400 --> 02:45:24,240
Speaker 34: gym and we battled each other throughout high. School you

3499
02:45:24,360 --> 02:45:27,520
Speaker 34: had the McGee, twins and you, know we Had Ronda,

3500
02:45:27,600 --> 02:45:30,040
Speaker 34: windham a point guard from The. Bronx so we had

3501
02:45:30,200 --> 02:45:33,960
Speaker 34: a little bit of. Everything so our, practices coach just

3502
02:45:34,080 --> 02:45:38,920
Speaker 34: basically rolled out the ball was. Great in allowing us

3503
02:45:39,000 --> 02:45:42,680
Speaker 34: to be who we. Are our personalities would step in

3504
02:45:42,800 --> 02:45:45,880
Speaker 34: when we you, know got a little. Twisted but the

3505
02:45:46,080 --> 02:45:49,760
Speaker 34: games were the fun, part practices where we honed, ourselves

3506
02:45:49,800 --> 02:45:52,800
Speaker 34: our skills and everything. Else we had to check our

3507
02:45:52,840 --> 02:45:56,320
Speaker 34: egos at the you, know and that was our, Captain Juliet.

3508
02:45:56,400 --> 02:46:00,400
Speaker 34: Robinson check your ego at the. Door and once we

3509
02:46:00,440 --> 02:46:01,720
Speaker 34: stepped on the, floor it was about.

3510
02:46:01,760 --> 02:46:02,400
Speaker 8: Business it.

3511
02:46:03,000 --> 02:46:04,520
Speaker 34: Was and then you had the you, know we Had

3512
02:46:05,040 --> 02:46:07,640
Speaker 34: magic and The lakers and you know them coming in

3513
02:46:07,760 --> 02:46:10,200
Speaker 34: occasionally watching us. Play and we were playing at the

3514
02:46:10,280 --> 02:46:15,680
Speaker 34: time at The Sports. Arena so, yeah we were. SHOWTIME

3515
02:46:17,879 --> 02:46:18,280
Speaker 34: i love.

3516
02:46:18,360 --> 02:46:20,040
Speaker 1: IT i love. It i'm gonna give you some. NAMES

3517
02:46:20,200 --> 02:46:23,240
Speaker 1: i want you to tell me what you. Think Debora, robins,

3518
02:46:23,360 --> 02:46:25,280
Speaker 1: oh just like a.

3519
02:46:25,400 --> 02:46:38,039
Speaker 34: Brother she was A rebounders sister. Right pam McGee did

3520
02:46:38,120 --> 02:46:41,440
Speaker 34: her dirty in the in the championship game because she

3521
02:46:41,600 --> 02:46:44,480
Speaker 34: got in her ear started talking to, her, SAY i

3522
02:46:44,560 --> 02:46:46,280
Speaker 34: can't Believe Kim molky just missed.

3523
02:46:46,320 --> 02:46:47,039
Speaker 8: That you were wide.

3524
02:46:47,080 --> 02:46:49,400
Speaker 34: Open you had me pinned talking to her throughout the.

3525
02:46:49,440 --> 02:46:50,240
Speaker 8: Game, MAN i.

3526
02:46:50,280 --> 02:46:53,400
Speaker 34: Can't Believe Kim molky just Sat Janice, lawrence won't you

3527
02:46:53,400 --> 02:46:55,280
Speaker 34: even pass You out's a high loan and you got

3528
02:46:55,360 --> 02:46:58,240
Speaker 34: me pinned behind and then all of a sudden she starts,

3529
02:46:58,280 --> 02:47:00,760
Speaker 34: talking why did you give any the ball? Him now

3530
02:47:00,840 --> 02:47:05,440
Speaker 34: there's A i mean so she, talented but she, yeah

3531
02:47:05,560 --> 02:47:06,920
Speaker 34: she she had some things going on.

3532
02:47:07,120 --> 02:47:07,840
Speaker 8: Like, her like her.

3533
02:47:07,920 --> 02:47:11,880
Speaker 1: Brother. Uh pam McGee one of my former, Teammates Mom

3534
02:47:12,160 --> 02:47:13,440
Speaker 1: JaVale McGee's, Mom.

3535
02:47:13,520 --> 02:47:19,360
Speaker 34: Pam hardest working, block the, block, hustle, rebounder will not

3536
02:47:19,480 --> 02:47:27,000
Speaker 34: be denied on the. Boards physical funny with you, know

3537
02:47:27,160 --> 02:47:29,760
Speaker 34: she would pause to things Sometimes i'm, like are you hearing?

3538
02:47:29,840 --> 02:47:32,280
Speaker 34: Something BUT i now know she was just pausing the.

3539
02:47:32,360 --> 02:47:32,880
Speaker 1: Thing you.

3540
02:47:33,000 --> 02:47:35,640
Speaker 34: Know, yeah great, Teammate great.

3541
02:47:35,440 --> 02:47:37,840
Speaker 1: Teammates Cynthia cooper who.

3542
02:47:41,440 --> 02:47:45,240
Speaker 34: We could not SEE i to eye on.

3543
02:47:46,520 --> 02:47:53,080
Speaker 8: Anything Shacking. Kobe oh it, Was AND i will say she.

3544
02:47:53,440 --> 02:47:54,160
Speaker 5: Was she Was.

3545
02:47:54,600 --> 02:47:57,480
Speaker 34: Kobe AND i had some shock in her BECAUSE i

3546
02:47:57,600 --> 02:48:01,360
Speaker 34: HAD i had some shock in Mere. Kobe you can be,

3547
02:48:01,480 --> 02:48:03,160
Speaker 34: you but you ain't gonna tell me how to, do.

3548
02:48:06,959 --> 02:48:07,000
Speaker 5: You?

3549
02:48:07,080 --> 02:48:08,560
Speaker 34: Know AND i WOULD i would sit, There i'm, Like,

3550
02:48:08,680 --> 02:48:10,840
Speaker 34: cooper do you ever shut? Up let me just ADD

3551
02:48:10,920 --> 02:48:13,880
Speaker 34: i just do you ever shut? Up and?

3552
02:48:16,040 --> 02:48:16,320
Speaker 8: Older?

3553
02:48:17,160 --> 02:48:22,960
Speaker 34: Older and AND i was, look coming out of high,

3554
02:48:22,959 --> 02:48:27,160
Speaker 34: school you're hearing you the end all be. ALL i

3555
02:48:27,240 --> 02:48:29,800
Speaker 34: started drinking my kool laid at a very young. Age

3556
02:48:32,040 --> 02:48:34,080
Speaker 34: so NOW i got this other mouth who wants to

3557
02:48:34,160 --> 02:48:36,680
Speaker 34: go at. Me i've, got you, know And i'm. LOOK

3558
02:48:37,680 --> 02:48:39,760
Speaker 34: i KNEW i was, good BUT i didn't BELIEVE i was.

3559
02:48:39,840 --> 02:48:41,120
Speaker 8: Good SO i WAS i was.

3560
02:48:41,200 --> 02:48:43,400
Speaker 34: Insecure so you're gonna challenge. ME i ain't.

3561
02:48:43,400 --> 02:48:44,160
Speaker 5: Gonna ain't no.

3562
02:48:44,280 --> 02:48:46,760
Speaker 34: PUNK i mean live At, riverside BUT i ain't no.

3563
02:48:46,920 --> 02:48:49,640
Speaker 34: Punk so she would come out from watch and she

3564
02:48:49,640 --> 02:48:50,840
Speaker 34: would say That i'm From i'm.

3565
02:48:50,720 --> 02:48:51,119
Speaker 1: Like an.

3566
02:48:53,680 --> 02:48:55,119
Speaker 5: Taste the, same, yeah.

3567
02:48:56,560 --> 02:49:00,400
Speaker 34: The, same want to you, KNOW i mean we were,

3568
02:49:00,440 --> 02:49:03,200
Speaker 34: SITTING i, mean you, know and you know the twins

3569
02:49:03,240 --> 02:49:05,040
Speaker 34: are Like. Suerrel she's From watson that With.

3570
02:49:05,200 --> 02:49:06,680
Speaker 8: PAPA i don't, care no no.

3571
02:49:06,840 --> 02:49:14,440
Speaker 34: Da but on the, court. Simpotico, yeah. Simpotico BUT i

3572
02:49:14,600 --> 02:49:17,160
Speaker 34: will say one, thing a couple of things About, CYNTHIA

3573
02:49:17,520 --> 02:49:27,440
Speaker 34: a self, made driven Superstar hall Of, famer so well.

3574
02:49:27,480 --> 02:49:32,480
Speaker 1: Deserved, last but not, Least kim Moulk oh.

3575
02:49:33,680 --> 02:49:37,880
Speaker 34: COACH i used to call her dead Of. South you

3576
02:49:38,080 --> 02:49:47,840
Speaker 34: just dead Of South South, South brilliant basketball, mind TREMENDOUS,

3577
02:49:48,480 --> 02:49:54,959
Speaker 34: iq great floor, general fierce, competitor is the one one

3578
02:49:55,080 --> 02:49:59,160
Speaker 34: of the should have been the starter of The olympic.

3579
02:49:58,840 --> 02:50:06,400
Speaker 8: Team hands. Down, really who was the? Starter Lee? Henry? Hmm,

3580
02:50:06,720 --> 02:50:07,800
Speaker 8: Interesting and.

3581
02:50:09,520 --> 02:50:12,680
Speaker 34: That Was pat's, Player Pat, summit the late Great Pat.

3582
02:50:12,720 --> 02:50:16,960
Speaker 34: Summits But Kim, maulky hands, down should have been the

3583
02:50:17,000 --> 02:50:21,400
Speaker 34: starter Because i'm telling you when when she would come,

3584
02:50:21,480 --> 02:50:24,080
Speaker 34: in she's, Like, MILLER i just need you to, fly

3585
02:50:24,840 --> 02:50:27,080
Speaker 34: you just. Fly i'll get the ball to. Her she

3586
02:50:27,160 --> 02:50:30,280
Speaker 34: would get that. Ball she already knew where everybody was

3587
02:50:30,879 --> 02:50:33,879
Speaker 34: because she could play the game with her eyes closed

3588
02:50:33,920 --> 02:50:36,800
Speaker 34: and would know what, passed when it hit, it timing

3589
02:50:36,840 --> 02:50:40,720
Speaker 34: and everything. Else barking, this knew your, position your, cut

3590
02:50:40,920 --> 02:50:43,360
Speaker 34: where you should have. BEEN i can't believe you're still out.

3591
02:50:43,400 --> 02:50:44,280
Speaker 1: HERE i mean.

3592
02:50:44,560 --> 02:50:48,520
Speaker 34: Everything so to watch her and to play against, Her

3593
02:50:48,640 --> 02:50:52,920
Speaker 34: playing against her was a. Pain playing with her a.

3594
02:50:53,120 --> 02:50:56,360
Speaker 34: Joy no surprise at her success as a head.

3595
02:50:56,440 --> 02:50:56,960
Speaker 5: Coach is she?

3596
02:50:57,080 --> 02:51:00,520
Speaker 1: Misunderstood she kind of gets a bad rap now, swaggy

3597
02:51:00,600 --> 02:51:01,160
Speaker 1: she's doing her.

3598
02:51:01,240 --> 02:51:03,600
Speaker 8: Way, Man kim is, Killed, Kim kim.

3599
02:51:03,680 --> 02:51:08,280
Speaker 1: Wait kim is never never broke. Character huh my, love

3600
02:51:08,360 --> 02:51:09,160
Speaker 1: that never broke.

3601
02:51:09,280 --> 02:51:09,640
Speaker 34: Character.

3602
02:51:10,080 --> 02:51:12,160
Speaker 27: Character what you see is what you get if you

3603
02:51:12,200 --> 02:51:15,279
Speaker 27: don't like, it fuck it fresh, Too oh, yeah.

3604
02:51:15,440 --> 02:51:19,160
Speaker 34: Oh, yeah she just you, know she's she's the Female.

3605
02:51:19,240 --> 02:51:31,600
Speaker 1: Labaraci shequille O'Neill comes TO l S. U what's your

3606
02:51:31,680 --> 02:51:32,800
Speaker 1: first early memories Of?

3607
02:51:32,840 --> 02:51:42,960
Speaker 43: Shock gigantic guy like in, shape, confident. Playful oh AND

3608
02:51:43,080 --> 02:51:45,560
Speaker 43: i remember him saying in the dorm one, day this

3609
02:51:45,720 --> 02:51:48,840
Speaker 43: is before contracts even exploded the way they. Did He's

3610
02:51:48,879 --> 02:51:50,400
Speaker 43: i'm gonna be the first guy to make eighty.

3611
02:51:50,480 --> 02:51:53,480
Speaker 23: Million he wait made way.

3612
02:51:53,680 --> 02:51:56,920
Speaker 8: More but he was. Man he was he was he was.

3613
02:51:57,000 --> 02:52:00,920
Speaker 43: Relentless you could see the passion in his. Game he

3614
02:52:01,080 --> 02:52:02,880
Speaker 43: was a people's. Person you know the way he is,

3615
02:52:03,040 --> 02:52:09,920
Speaker 43: now very, playful. Comical BUT i knew that we you,

3616
02:52:10,000 --> 02:52:12,560
Speaker 43: know we had something, special but we just couldn't put it.

3617
02:52:12,640 --> 02:52:18,080
Speaker 1: Together, obviously you were highly, touted. Decorated shack was. SHOCKED

3618
02:52:18,600 --> 02:52:20,640
Speaker 1: i Think Stanley roberts gets lost in the. Mix how

3619
02:52:20,680 --> 02:52:21,320
Speaker 1: good Was Stanley?

3620
02:52:21,400 --> 02:52:24,480
Speaker 6: Roberts not for me BECAUSE i grew up lived a

3621
02:52:24,560 --> 02:52:28,600
Speaker 6: couple of miles from. There, no they had the original

3622
02:52:28,680 --> 02:52:31,240
Speaker 6: two big fellas in. Him Like stanley did not get.

3623
02:52:31,600 --> 02:52:34,160
Speaker 6: Overshadowed if you WATCHED l S u and if he

3624
02:52:34,280 --> 02:52:35,920
Speaker 6: was from that, area he was just as big As.

3625
02:52:36,000 --> 02:52:37,920
Speaker 8: Shaq trust, me he was just as big.

3626
02:52:37,840 --> 02:52:40,840
Speaker 1: As shock From california in the. Area that's just the

3627
02:52:40,879 --> 02:52:44,320
Speaker 1: big As. Shack, yeah but in the grand scheme of

3628
02:52:44,360 --> 02:52:47,240
Speaker 1: Things nationwide talked to us About Stanley robinson what his

3629
02:52:47,320 --> 02:52:47,640
Speaker 1: game was.

3630
02:52:47,720 --> 02:52:55,280
Speaker 43: Like, stanley by far was way more talented and skillful His.

3631
02:52:55,360 --> 02:52:59,760
Speaker 43: Shack stanley could shoot, it he could shoot.

3632
02:52:59,560 --> 02:53:01,800
Speaker 23: His free, throw and he can take you.

3633
02:53:01,920 --> 02:53:05,320
Speaker 43: Down and now he didn't have the shock bringing it

3634
02:53:05,440 --> 02:53:09,040
Speaker 43: up home. Corner but outside of, that and Even shack

3635
02:53:09,120 --> 02:53:12,520
Speaker 43: Admitted shack, said, Look stanley dominated.

3636
02:53:12,600 --> 02:53:15,600
Speaker 23: Him, uh the only thing Was, stanley. Man and he'll

3637
02:53:15,600 --> 02:53:16,040
Speaker 23: tell you to this.

3638
02:53:16,240 --> 02:53:20,200
Speaker 43: Day we're At we're at a convention at l S

3639
02:53:20,280 --> 02:53:23,160
Speaker 43: u some years ago BECAUSE i hardly ever get. Back

3640
02:53:23,800 --> 02:53:26,119
Speaker 43: And stanley was eating in a ball you, know we're basketball.

3641
02:53:26,120 --> 02:53:27,000
Speaker 43: Players was a ball roll.

3642
02:53:27,080 --> 02:53:29,280
Speaker 23: By we're gonna grab it and touch. It sam was

3643
02:53:29,320 --> 02:53:35,440
Speaker 23: eating talking ball rolled, by looked at. It he just

3644
02:53:35,560 --> 02:53:38,920
Speaker 23: kept on me like AND i, LOOK i, said this, dude,

3645
02:53:39,000 --> 02:53:39,440
Speaker 23: seriously he.

3646
02:53:39,440 --> 02:53:41,000
Speaker 8: Don't want nothing to do with the game of.

3647
02:53:41,040 --> 02:53:42,320
Speaker 5: Basketball but that's just.

3648
02:53:42,440 --> 02:53:46,160
Speaker 43: Him even when he was playing, man he JUST i

3649
02:53:46,320 --> 02:53:48,600
Speaker 43: had to And i'm NOT i could beat this, dude

3650
02:53:49,200 --> 02:53:50,800
Speaker 43: BUT i had to sometimes piss him.

3651
02:53:50,840 --> 02:53:52,240
Speaker 23: Off coach was, like, man.

3652
02:53:52,160 --> 02:53:52,680
Speaker 8: Get him in the.

3653
02:53:52,760 --> 02:53:53,760
Speaker 23: Scams ain't.

3654
02:53:55,400 --> 02:53:55,600
Speaker 1: He's.

3655
02:53:55,640 --> 02:53:58,280
Speaker 43: Eating give me the, Ball give me the, ball but

3656
02:53:58,400 --> 02:54:00,520
Speaker 43: he'll go, off but he'll be missed two three.

3657
02:54:00,560 --> 02:54:03,480
Speaker 23: Days he just show YOU i can do, this and

3658
02:54:03,560 --> 02:54:03,800
Speaker 23: then he.

3659
02:54:03,840 --> 02:54:04,760
Speaker 5: Won't so he didn't have.

3660
02:54:04,879 --> 02:54:05,680
Speaker 23: That discipline in that.

3661
02:54:05,840 --> 02:54:08,720
Speaker 43: Work AND i remember telling him one Timmer, MAN i, says,

3662
02:54:08,720 --> 02:54:09,640
Speaker 43: STAY i had tears of Mis.

3663
02:54:09,760 --> 02:54:11,720
Speaker 23: Man we talked to him BECAUSE i knew, HIM i

3664
02:54:11,760 --> 02:54:12,360
Speaker 23: Said Stanley.

3665
02:54:12,440 --> 02:54:15,280
Speaker 44: MAN i, said, man if you just work, hard be.

3666
02:54:15,400 --> 02:54:17,880
Speaker 44: CONSISTENT i, said, man you can write your, ticket you

3667
02:54:17,920 --> 02:54:21,800
Speaker 44: can name your. Price he looks at, me he, Said.

3668
02:54:21,879 --> 02:54:23,400
Speaker 44: Man at the, time my name Is, green Said Chris.

3669
02:54:23,520 --> 02:54:24,720
Speaker 44: MAN i appreciate.

3670
02:54:24,760 --> 02:54:24,800
Speaker 5: You.

3671
02:54:24,959 --> 02:54:26,879
Speaker 23: Man he, said, man but he's.

3672
02:54:26,920 --> 02:54:30,640
Speaker 8: Angle, listen he's A AND i knew he was telling the.

3673
02:54:30,720 --> 02:54:33,119
Speaker 23: TRUTH i seen even man make my eyes water WHEN

3674
02:54:33,120 --> 02:54:33,640
Speaker 23: i think about.

3675
02:54:33,640 --> 02:54:34,480
Speaker 8: IT i, said, man this.

3676
02:54:34,560 --> 02:54:36,320
Speaker 5: Dude as so much. Man so.

3677
02:54:38,440 --> 02:54:41,840
Speaker 1: Uh and the, Documentary shack spoke to a particular performance

3678
02:54:41,879 --> 02:54:45,840
Speaker 1: where you had forty points Against Mississippi state on the,

3679
02:54:46,000 --> 02:54:50,640
Speaker 1: Road confederate flags in the, stands, yelling going. Crazy he

3680
02:54:50,680 --> 02:54:53,000
Speaker 1: said that was the single greatest performance he's ever, seen

3681
02:54:53,360 --> 02:54:56,240
Speaker 1: playing With, kobe playing in the league all these. Years he,

3682
02:54:56,320 --> 02:54:59,400
Speaker 1: said what you did in that game he'll always remember

3683
02:54:59,520 --> 02:55:01,360
Speaker 1: is the greatest single performance taught to us about that

3684
02:55:01,480 --> 02:55:03,560
Speaker 1: game and just the environment when you're coming back home

3685
02:55:03,680 --> 02:55:05,720
Speaker 1: and it seems like your home is against.

3686
02:55:05,800 --> 02:55:06,760
Speaker 5: You it ain't no.

3687
02:55:06,879 --> 02:55:10,160
Speaker 43: Scene, yeah it would definitely gets as soon AS i

3688
02:55:10,240 --> 02:55:12,600
Speaker 43: walked out and they saw my feet coming out of

3689
02:55:12,640 --> 02:55:14,480
Speaker 43: the tunnel started.

3690
02:55:16,760 --> 02:55:17,240
Speaker 5: That was a great.

3691
02:55:17,280 --> 02:55:19,000
Speaker 43: GAME i WOULDN'T i would have thought that would be

3692
02:55:19,040 --> 02:55:22,160
Speaker 43: the game that he. Say, HOWEVER i do remember that,

3693
02:55:22,280 --> 02:55:25,480
Speaker 43: game AND i Remember dale got extremely upset because he

3694
02:55:25,480 --> 02:55:28,280
Speaker 43: didn't like going To. Mississippi he didn't like if it

3695
02:55:28,400 --> 02:55:30,320
Speaker 43: was his, preference he wouldn't have he would have flew,

3696
02:55:30,400 --> 02:55:33,000
Speaker 43: in played and, left wouldn't have, bought wouldn't have spent

3697
02:55:33,080 --> 02:55:35,240
Speaker 43: money in the. Hotel he spent money in a. Motel

3698
02:55:35,520 --> 02:55:37,440
Speaker 43: we said the. Motel he wanted to spend the least.

3699
02:55:37,440 --> 02:55:41,160
Speaker 43: Amount but that was appeared in the game With dale was,

3700
02:55:41,240 --> 02:55:43,760
Speaker 43: like you know, what AND i felt kind of. Awkward he, Said,

3701
02:55:43,760 --> 02:55:47,119
Speaker 43: okay y'all don't want to, play come down and shoot

3702
02:55:47,120 --> 02:55:51,480
Speaker 43: it every. Time i'm, like, YEAH i came down AND

3703
02:55:51,520 --> 02:55:53,360
Speaker 43: i was. Playing but if somebody's, OPEN i gotta give

3704
02:55:53,400 --> 02:55:57,040
Speaker 43: it to. Him BUT i THINK i don't know if

3705
02:55:57,040 --> 02:55:59,760
Speaker 43: we won that, game that particular, game but it was

3706
02:55:59,800 --> 02:56:02,160
Speaker 43: a stretch WHEN i JUST i just took control and went.

3707
02:56:02,240 --> 02:56:06,200
Speaker 43: Off And i'm definitely thinking that's what he's referring. To

3708
02:56:06,680 --> 02:56:08,560
Speaker 43: so it's good that he at least remembers.

3709
02:56:08,600 --> 02:56:11,200
Speaker 1: It, Yeah can you speak to the importance Of Dale,

3710
02:56:11,200 --> 02:56:13,480
Speaker 1: brown because even in the documentary he was just still

3711
02:56:13,640 --> 02:56:16,600
Speaker 1: so high on you and have so much love for

3712
02:56:16,760 --> 02:56:19,120
Speaker 1: who you were the, man not just a basketball. Player

3713
02:56:19,160 --> 02:56:21,880
Speaker 1: but speak to his importance in your, journey, Man.

3714
02:56:22,360 --> 02:56:26,360
Speaker 43: Dale they came to recruit me In, mississippi and one

3715
02:56:26,400 --> 02:56:27,879
Speaker 43: of the, reasons the main REASONS i.

3716
02:56:27,920 --> 02:56:29,519
Speaker 23: Went there actually is BECAUSE.

3717
02:56:31,520 --> 02:56:32,119
Speaker 1: I know better.

3718
02:56:32,200 --> 02:56:35,440
Speaker 43: Now you, KNOW i do believe that athletes should get paid,

3719
02:56:36,320 --> 02:56:38,200
Speaker 43: Right BUT i was a little. SCARY i didn't want

3720
02:56:38,200 --> 02:56:40,600
Speaker 43: anything to mess up my. Career and they just came

3721
02:56:40,680 --> 02:56:45,400
Speaker 43: off OF i think, suspension something Hot williams out OF

3722
02:56:47,640 --> 02:56:52,200
Speaker 43: i forget his name out Of. California but, man they

3723
02:56:52,320 --> 02:56:55,480
Speaker 43: never when he came to everybody else is offering you

3724
02:56:55,560 --> 02:56:57,680
Speaker 43: stuff like you're gonna come and you're gonna start right,

3725
02:56:57,720 --> 02:57:00,360
Speaker 43: away blah blah, Blah and my young, Mind i'm said to,

3726
02:57:00,440 --> 02:57:02,960
Speaker 43: myself we don't even know what tomorrow's gonna. Bring how

3727
02:57:03,000 --> 02:57:04,800
Speaker 43: could you offer me, something somebody else may come in

3728
02:57:04,840 --> 02:57:07,360
Speaker 43: And i'll play. Me AND i just always felt funny about.

3729
02:57:07,400 --> 02:57:09,520
Speaker 43: That but they came in and he, said, listen we

3730
02:57:09,600 --> 02:57:12,280
Speaker 43: got fair. Serving you, know we believe that you can

3731
02:57:12,360 --> 02:57:16,959
Speaker 43: play about believing your. Talent if you show us that this.

3732
02:57:17,040 --> 02:57:17,960
Speaker 5: Is who you, are you gonna.

3733
02:57:17,959 --> 02:57:21,879
Speaker 43: Play and you, Know i'm kind of like old, school

3734
02:57:21,920 --> 02:57:24,240
Speaker 43: you know WHAT i, mean like, Okay and they was

3735
02:57:24,280 --> 02:57:26,920
Speaker 43: just straight up with, me AND i just. SHOOK i

3736
02:57:27,040 --> 02:57:29,480
Speaker 43: just shook that head AND i, said, Listen i'm coming TO.

3737
02:57:29,600 --> 02:57:31,360
Speaker 43: Lsu BUT i kept a quiet for a while BECAUSE

3738
02:57:31,360 --> 02:57:34,279
Speaker 43: i was told In mississippi you want to Keep mississippi

3739
02:57:34,280 --> 02:57:35,040
Speaker 43: schools BECAUSE i was.

3740
02:57:35,080 --> 02:57:37,120
Speaker 23: OUT i wasn't out of high school, yet so.

3741
02:57:37,160 --> 02:57:38,720
Speaker 43: They say keep one of them or so on the

3742
02:57:38,800 --> 02:57:41,120
Speaker 43: list because you don't want them to start giving you,

3743
02:57:41,200 --> 02:57:44,160
Speaker 43: problems you. Know so that's WHY i kept The mississippi

3744
02:57:44,200 --> 02:57:44,680
Speaker 43: school on the.

3745
02:57:44,720 --> 02:57:45,520
Speaker 1: List BUT i.

3746
02:57:45,600 --> 02:57:47,120
Speaker 43: Already knew THAT i wanted to go out as you

3747
02:57:47,840 --> 02:57:50,600
Speaker 43: and so the other thing That clinchton was coach. Cars

3748
02:57:50,680 --> 02:57:53,279
Speaker 43: we talked like thousands of, hours about a thousand. Hours

3749
02:57:53,800 --> 02:57:55,280
Speaker 43: ninety something percent of them had nothing to do with,

3750
02:57:55,320 --> 02:57:58,680
Speaker 43: basketball and so to me that meant a lot like these.

3751
02:57:58,720 --> 02:58:02,119
Speaker 43: People you, know potentially you're gonna you, know they're gonna

3752
02:58:02,120 --> 02:58:02,920
Speaker 43: they're gonna care for.

3753
02:58:02,959 --> 02:58:03,480
Speaker 5: Me more than the.

3754
02:58:03,520 --> 02:58:09,040
Speaker 23: Game and uh he held true to his. Promise, UH

3755
02:58:09,160 --> 02:58:09,960
Speaker 23: i mean to to his.

3756
02:58:10,080 --> 02:58:11,160
Speaker 5: Word AND i got.

3757
02:58:11,240 --> 02:58:13,920
Speaker 43: There he saw it and he just, said, hey, MAN

3758
02:58:15,240 --> 02:58:18,760
Speaker 43: i want you to go for broke and uh and

3759
02:58:18,879 --> 02:58:21,400
Speaker 43: he trusted me. Too he knew, That, OKAY i wasn't

3760
02:58:21,520 --> 02:58:24,080
Speaker 43: just gonna be a releegaate with, it you. Know and

3761
02:58:24,240 --> 02:58:26,840
Speaker 43: uh so and he, also, man he gave. Me he

3762
02:58:27,000 --> 02:58:29,200
Speaker 43: was the one that influenced, me that led me to

3763
02:58:29,840 --> 02:58:31,360
Speaker 43: more and so to a slam because he gave me

3764
02:58:31,360 --> 02:58:32,800
Speaker 43: the autobiography because he.

3765
02:58:32,920 --> 02:58:34,760
Speaker 5: Read he.

3766
02:58:36,520 --> 02:58:38,800
Speaker 43: Read all the, time and he had so many connections

3767
02:58:38,920 --> 02:58:41,359
Speaker 43: whether you know different, people, man whether It's Dick, Gregory

3768
02:58:41,480 --> 02:58:42,600
Speaker 43: pharaoh coh and you name.

3769
02:58:42,680 --> 02:58:45,440
Speaker 23: It and he would always hand us material to read

3770
02:58:45,440 --> 02:58:46,040
Speaker 23: and tell us what we.

3771
02:58:46,200 --> 02:58:47,000
Speaker 8: Thought you.

3772
02:58:47,080 --> 02:58:50,040
Speaker 43: Know BECAUSE i came, OUT i almost didn't make, it,

3773
02:58:50,160 --> 02:58:54,240
Speaker 43: MAN i, failed uh THE A C t the first

3774
02:58:54,280 --> 02:58:57,039
Speaker 43: time and then the second. Time and if it wasn't

3775
02:58:57,040 --> 02:59:00,320
Speaker 43: for a doctor that instilled in this woman to have

3776
02:59:00,920 --> 02:59:04,640
Speaker 43: the classes, PRIVATELY i probably would have been a prop

3777
02:59:04,680 --> 02:59:08,320
Speaker 43: forty eight Like. Stanley BUT i was able to pass,

3778
02:59:08,400 --> 02:59:10,520
Speaker 43: it AND i came. In but the whole time AT,

3779
02:59:10,640 --> 02:59:13,600
Speaker 43: Lsu man they put me in a remedia reading. CLASS

3780
02:59:14,400 --> 02:59:17,600
Speaker 43: i could, READ i could, spell you, know but my

3781
02:59:17,680 --> 02:59:20,720
Speaker 43: comprehension skills wasn't, great my critical thinking. Skills so they

3782
02:59:20,760 --> 02:59:25,599
Speaker 43: would ask me questions prior to my being admitted in the, classes.

3783
02:59:25,240 --> 02:59:26,400
Speaker 8: Like what does have me to read?

3784
02:59:26,480 --> 02:59:29,320
Speaker 43: Something and said what does this? Mean oh, no what

3785
02:59:29,360 --> 02:59:32,199
Speaker 43: does this word? MEAN i don't KNOW i can spell,

3786
02:59:32,280 --> 02:59:33,960
Speaker 43: WORDS i ain't even know what they?

3787
02:59:34,040 --> 02:59:34,800
Speaker 23: Meant what does this word?

3788
02:59:34,840 --> 02:59:35,240
Speaker 5: MEAN i don't?

3789
02:59:35,280 --> 02:59:37,080
Speaker 23: Know what are you getting from the?

3790
02:59:37,120 --> 02:59:40,200
Speaker 43: STORY i was just, reading, MAN i was sounding, good

3791
02:59:41,080 --> 02:59:44,840
Speaker 43: AND i felt so humiliated, though and So Dale brown

3792
02:59:45,200 --> 02:59:47,160
Speaker 43: began to give me a little material here and THEN

3793
02:59:47,200 --> 02:59:47,720
Speaker 43: i would read.

3794
02:59:47,760 --> 02:59:50,120
Speaker 23: It what do you think about? This what do you

3795
02:59:50,200 --> 02:59:50,600
Speaker 23: think about?

3796
02:59:50,640 --> 02:59:53,080
Speaker 43: That and even WHEN i would give, interviews there were

3797
02:59:53,160 --> 02:59:56,760
Speaker 43: times he would, stop, hey, man tell them what you think,

3798
02:59:57,640 --> 02:59:59,959
Speaker 43: right because he saw me pussy footing.

3799
02:59:59,720 --> 03:00:02,879
Speaker 1: Around and so he would challenge all the smoke.

3800
03:00:03,120 --> 03:00:04,520
Speaker 23: Right then he put me in a summer.

3801
03:00:04,680 --> 03:00:07,400
Speaker 43: Job my summer job was with this guy Named Gus,

3802
03:00:07,480 --> 03:00:09,720
Speaker 43: wiles who was an author who had.

3803
03:00:09,560 --> 03:00:10,440
Speaker 5: To play his.

3804
03:00:10,600 --> 03:00:13,119
Speaker 43: Plays presenter of one of his plays presented On. Broadway

3805
03:00:14,080 --> 03:00:16,280
Speaker 43: So gus would come in and every MORNING i would

3806
03:00:16,280 --> 03:00:18,880
Speaker 43: sit my whole. THING i would come in five to

3807
03:00:19,000 --> 03:00:21,280
Speaker 43: ten minutes every. MORNING i would sit with him and

3808
03:00:21,400 --> 03:00:25,560
Speaker 43: we just, talked and in our conversations, informally he just

3809
03:00:25,680 --> 03:00:28,880
Speaker 43: injects certain ideas in terms of speech and.

3810
03:00:29,000 --> 03:00:31,080
Speaker 23: Everything and THEN i sit in my office And i'd

3811
03:00:31,160 --> 03:00:32,760
Speaker 23: read and they.

3812
03:00:32,760 --> 03:00:33,120
Speaker 8: Take me to.

3813
03:00:33,200 --> 03:00:35,920
Speaker 5: Lunch my whole day was reading and having.

3814
03:00:35,959 --> 03:00:38,920
Speaker 43: Conversations and then that next year WHEN i came and

3815
03:00:39,040 --> 03:00:42,040
Speaker 43: it was time to do, INTERVIEWS i was more, well

3816
03:00:42,120 --> 03:00:44,520
Speaker 43: more seasoned THAN i was here. Before and then that

3817
03:00:44,640 --> 03:00:47,080
Speaker 43: started to process me of wanting to know more and

3818
03:00:47,200 --> 03:00:50,600
Speaker 43: read more and to become more vocal and. Confident so,

3819
03:00:50,720 --> 03:00:51,959
Speaker 43: Yeah i'm indebted to him for.

3820
03:00:52,000 --> 03:01:03,360
Speaker 1: That college and SIX sec player of The year had

3821
03:01:03,400 --> 03:01:06,440
Speaker 1: to run to the final four for some badass school

3822
03:01:06,480 --> 03:01:08,400
Speaker 1: out there in That west coast with light skinned. Kids

3823
03:01:08,760 --> 03:01:13,760
Speaker 1: uh the. Tournament, yeah talk to us about. COLLEGE i

3824
03:01:13,840 --> 03:01:15,640
Speaker 1: CAN'T i Enjoyed washington BECAUSE i was already in the,

3825
03:01:15,720 --> 03:01:16,720
Speaker 1: league but you was.

3826
03:01:16,720 --> 03:01:19,440
Speaker 8: Putting in work in. College, BRO i can't stand, you.

3827
03:01:19,560 --> 03:01:20,199
Speaker 5: Motherfuckers.

3828
03:01:20,240 --> 03:01:23,600
Speaker 8: MAN i really can't like if you think about, That

3829
03:01:23,879 --> 03:01:25,520
Speaker 8: LIKE i got a.

3830
03:01:25,520 --> 03:01:26,400
Speaker 5: Problem With Jordan.

3831
03:01:26,480 --> 03:01:29,920
Speaker 6: Farmart you know WHAT i, MEAN i should we were

3832
03:01:29,920 --> 03:01:32,440
Speaker 6: supposed to beat them, boys but they were just so well.

3833
03:01:32,600 --> 03:01:36,520
Speaker 8: Coached the well they were so well, coached and that

3834
03:01:36,680 --> 03:01:39,039
Speaker 8: was just a great. EXPERIENCE i THINK i was.

3835
03:01:39,080 --> 03:01:41,800
Speaker 39: So caught up in the lights, too because you think

3836
03:01:42,560 --> 03:01:45,440
Speaker 39: four like they, had we was doing all type of,

3837
03:01:45,520 --> 03:01:48,200
Speaker 39: promo you know that your first tastes of the.

3838
03:01:48,240 --> 03:01:50,640
Speaker 8: Business, yeah like we're young, kids you, know we.

3839
03:01:50,720 --> 03:01:53,160
Speaker 6: DIDN'T i think the lights were so big for, us

3840
03:01:53,520 --> 03:01:56,480
Speaker 6: and you, know we we didn't expect to get, there,

3841
03:01:56,760 --> 03:01:58,640
Speaker 6: Right we know we were, good you know WHAT i,

3842
03:01:58,720 --> 03:02:01,560
Speaker 6: Mean but we did it some crazy stuff in college

3843
03:02:01,600 --> 03:02:02,960
Speaker 6: and we you, know lost to you.

3844
03:02:03,080 --> 03:02:09,000
Speaker 1: Guys best part of college for, You god damn LSU ls.

3845
03:02:09,120 --> 03:02:11,400
Speaker 8: Shoe they they showed a lot of.

3846
03:02:11,600 --> 03:02:15,000
Speaker 5: Love you was at, home but they.

3847
03:02:15,080 --> 03:02:16,800
Speaker 8: Were still, through you know WHAT i.

3848
03:02:16,920 --> 03:02:20,120
Speaker 27: Mean LIKE i just missed the atmosphere because you, know

3849
03:02:20,320 --> 03:02:22,840
Speaker 27: college was a Different college was like the pros for.

3850
03:02:22,959 --> 03:02:25,200
Speaker 8: Me it was like a BABY G league for, me you.

3851
03:02:25,240 --> 03:02:25,440
Speaker 2: Know WHAT i.

3852
03:02:25,520 --> 03:02:28,840
Speaker 8: MEAN i had a lot of. Fun like you, know

3853
03:02:29,760 --> 03:02:31,760
Speaker 8: we're a football, school so it was like.

3854
03:02:31,920 --> 03:02:35,000
Speaker 6: Basketball it was like, okay like a, surprise you, Know

3855
03:02:35,280 --> 03:02:38,000
Speaker 6: so you, KNOW i had some great.

3856
03:02:38,080 --> 03:02:40,240
Speaker 5: FUN i had a lot of fun in. COLLEGE i

3857
03:02:40,360 --> 03:02:40,600
Speaker 5: did my.

3858
03:02:40,720 --> 03:02:43,840
Speaker 6: Thing people don't understand how crazy those football games. Be

3859
03:02:44,520 --> 03:02:48,480
Speaker 6: like you can hit like the city like rumbles like miles.

3860
03:02:48,520 --> 03:02:50,680
Speaker 6: Away you can hear rumbles on the ground like an

3861
03:02:50,720 --> 03:02:54,880
Speaker 6: earthquake from that. Stadium, Bro, Bro Saturday night And Tiger

3862
03:02:55,000 --> 03:03:00,400
Speaker 6: stadium crazy as a basketball right that made me come

3863
03:03:00,480 --> 03:03:00,600
Speaker 6: to the.

3864
03:03:00,640 --> 03:03:02,359
Speaker 8: School yeah, right because.

3865
03:03:02,120 --> 03:03:04,039
Speaker 1: WHEN i went on my, visit you, know right around

3866
03:03:04,080 --> 03:03:06,360
Speaker 1: the corner AND i, WENT i seen, that and THEN

3867
03:03:06,400 --> 03:03:09,400
Speaker 1: i seen all the tramp girls in one, sanction and

3868
03:03:09,480 --> 03:03:10,720
Speaker 1: THEN i just seen all the.

3869
03:03:10,840 --> 03:03:12,320
Speaker 26: JOINTS i had to.

3870
03:03:12,480 --> 03:03:15,440
Speaker 5: Stay you, know it's, crazy you know What i'm.

3871
03:03:15,440 --> 03:03:20,600
Speaker 20: Saying unless you had you, know you, know and the

3872
03:03:20,680 --> 03:03:23,440
Speaker 20: prone bangs selling right down the.

3873
03:03:23,520 --> 03:03:26,200
Speaker 5: STREET i had to.

3874
03:03:26,320 --> 03:03:31,000
Speaker 8: Stay, yeah, yeah, yeah, YEAH i did. It yeah true or?

3875
03:03:31,160 --> 03:03:34,320
Speaker 1: False back to basketball right, house and by locked you

3876
03:03:34,440 --> 03:03:35,480
Speaker 1: up in that. Game oh that's.

3877
03:03:35,720 --> 03:03:38,240
Speaker 22: CAP i was about to, Say, bro about to, say

3878
03:03:38,280 --> 03:03:39,480
Speaker 22: you know you ain't letting.

3879
03:03:39,320 --> 03:03:40,760
Speaker 5: That Ryan hollins And.

3880
03:03:42,160 --> 03:03:44,280
Speaker 8: Moote, no there's a double.

3881
03:03:44,400 --> 03:03:46,840
Speaker 1: Team they still can't do. Nothing then they can't do

3882
03:03:47,000 --> 03:03:50,280
Speaker 1: nothing with, me, man right, now it's still in his.

3883
03:03:50,480 --> 03:03:51,880
Speaker 5: Stay they can't do.

3884
03:03:52,000 --> 03:04:02,119
Speaker 1: Nothing you end up playing With Rick patino On Kentucky

3885
03:04:02,440 --> 03:04:04,920
Speaker 1: were there any other colleges you really thought about going?

3886
03:04:04,959 --> 03:04:06,320
Speaker 1: To or is Always Kentucky.

3887
03:04:06,400 --> 03:04:08,680
Speaker 45: Midwest, guy so OBVIOUSLY i was. COMING i was right

3888
03:04:08,720 --> 03:04:11,360
Speaker 45: behind That michigan, run so definitely thought about going To.

3889
03:04:11,440 --> 03:04:13,960
Speaker 45: Michigan BUT i did like all of us. Did BUT

3890
03:04:14,040 --> 03:04:19,200
Speaker 45: i had ten home. VISITS i went on five Visits, Michigan,

3891
03:04:19,440 --> 03:04:24,120
Speaker 45: kentucky you N Lv. Illinois SO i took my regular

3892
03:04:24,160 --> 03:04:26,200
Speaker 45: tip five, visits have my ten and home visits and

3893
03:04:26,480 --> 03:04:28,960
Speaker 45: really kind of let the process play itself. Out BUT

3894
03:04:29,120 --> 03:04:31,480
Speaker 45: i just Love kentucky style. Play Mass buran was one

3895
03:04:31,480 --> 03:04:34,960
Speaker 45: of my favorite. Players Mass burn was, there AND i

3896
03:04:35,080 --> 03:04:36,680
Speaker 45: liked it because he was able to know he can

3897
03:04:36,720 --> 03:04:38,480
Speaker 45: handle he could shoot the. Three SO i felt, like,

3898
03:04:38,920 --> 03:04:41,040
Speaker 45: MAN i could fit into that that system right. There

3899
03:04:41,400 --> 03:04:43,200
Speaker 45: and then coach was telling me that mass was coming

3900
03:04:43,280 --> 03:04:46,000
Speaker 45: out that so we're gonna have room for you to

3901
03:04:46,120 --> 03:04:47,520
Speaker 45: come in and be able to play right. Away so

3902
03:04:47,600 --> 03:04:49,640
Speaker 45: that's what really intrigued me to go to go To

3903
03:04:49,760 --> 03:04:52,320
Speaker 45: kentucky because of the style of. Play AND i saw Mass,

3904
03:04:52,400 --> 03:04:53,760
Speaker 45: burn SO i was, like, man he gonna let me

3905
03:04:54,360 --> 03:04:56,039
Speaker 45: do and they't gonna take my game away from.

3906
03:04:56,120 --> 03:04:58,320
Speaker 1: Him talk to us About Rick patino and just your

3907
03:04:58,360 --> 03:04:58,920
Speaker 1: Whole kentucky.

3908
03:04:59,000 --> 03:05:02,000
Speaker 45: Experience love him the, yeah, man it was unbelievable for.

3909
03:05:02,120 --> 03:05:04,120
Speaker 45: Me WHEN i came, IN i, was you, know like

3910
03:05:04,200 --> 03:05:05,920
Speaker 45: an all of. US i was a young high, head

3911
03:05:06,440 --> 03:05:07,920
Speaker 45: you know WHAT i, mean THOUGHT i knew, everything and

3912
03:05:08,000 --> 03:05:11,520
Speaker 45: he humbled me and taught me how to work hard

3913
03:05:11,600 --> 03:05:13,560
Speaker 45: and put me in a good position to be the

3914
03:05:13,600 --> 03:05:14,360
Speaker 45: best basketball.

3915
03:05:14,400 --> 03:05:16,000
Speaker 5: Player BECAUSE i THOUGHT i was a point.

3916
03:05:16,040 --> 03:05:18,360
Speaker 8: Guard NO i.

3917
03:05:18,440 --> 03:05:21,760
Speaker 45: DID i was a point, GUARD i, mean BUT i

3918
03:05:21,800 --> 03:05:23,920
Speaker 45: THOUGHT i wanted to play the. Point he was, like,

3919
03:05:24,040 --> 03:05:26,280
Speaker 45: Look i'm gonna put you at this point forward stack.

3920
03:05:26,400 --> 03:05:29,160
Speaker 45: RIGHT i played the four me and watch. McCarty so

3921
03:05:29,280 --> 03:05:31,120
Speaker 45: we played you, Know walching not y'all know how wal

3922
03:05:31,440 --> 03:05:33,880
Speaker 45: was was kind of a four, two and we played the,

3923
03:05:33,920 --> 03:05:35,280
Speaker 45: four and he was, Like i'm gonna still let you.

3924
03:05:35,360 --> 03:05:36,880
Speaker 45: Handle i'm gonna let you do all your things and

3925
03:05:37,080 --> 03:05:39,520
Speaker 45: let you shoot the, three but we're gonna have a

3926
03:05:39,560 --> 03:05:42,360
Speaker 45: traditional point guard on the. Floor AND i the only

3927
03:05:42,440 --> 03:05:44,000
Speaker 45: THING i could do was stank, him, man and even

3928
03:05:44,040 --> 03:05:47,480
Speaker 45: take it a step. Further after my rookie, year you guys,

3929
03:05:47,560 --> 03:05:49,720
Speaker 45: know he came To boston and coached me In boston

3930
03:05:50,320 --> 03:05:54,039
Speaker 45: and made The All star, team turned me, loose put

3931
03:05:54,120 --> 03:05:55,720
Speaker 45: me at the. Four WHEN i came into the, PROS

3932
03:05:55,760 --> 03:05:59,000
Speaker 45: i was at the, three AND i MEAN i had

3933
03:05:59,000 --> 03:06:01,160
Speaker 45: a good rookie. Year every team and half made first

3934
03:06:01,160 --> 03:06:03,840
Speaker 45: Team All rookie, team played. Well but he was, like

3935
03:06:03,959 --> 03:06:04,720
Speaker 45: your advantage is.

3936
03:06:04,720 --> 03:06:05,199
Speaker 5: At the fool.

3937
03:06:05,760 --> 03:06:07,680
Speaker 45: Quickness he was, like, look you gotta go to the.

3938
03:06:07,760 --> 03:06:09,800
Speaker 45: Four he, SAID i know you don't want, to but he,

3939
03:06:09,840 --> 03:06:10,600
Speaker 45: said that's what you're gonna.

3940
03:06:10,600 --> 03:06:12,600
Speaker 1: Be was what was your playing weight when you first

3941
03:06:12,640 --> 03:06:12,920
Speaker 1: came in the.

3942
03:06:13,000 --> 03:06:14,880
Speaker 5: League came in at two thirty.

3943
03:06:14,920 --> 03:06:17,360
Speaker 45: FIVE i think WHEN i went in the, draft got

3944
03:06:17,440 --> 03:06:19,840
Speaker 45: to like two forty five and tapped out with the

3945
03:06:19,920 --> 03:06:22,000
Speaker 45: heat you, know you Know pat right, on that's. Around

3946
03:06:22,640 --> 03:06:24,600
Speaker 45: SO i played at like two fifty but the heat

3947
03:06:25,440 --> 03:06:27,760
Speaker 45: on the on the on the low seven eight percent

3948
03:06:27,840 --> 03:06:29,040
Speaker 45: body sack with past.

3949
03:06:29,240 --> 03:06:29,560
Speaker 5: Solid.

3950
03:06:29,760 --> 03:06:32,360
Speaker 45: Yeah but In boston WHEN i first came, IN i

3951
03:06:32,440 --> 03:06:34,360
Speaker 45: was like two thirty, five got to like two forty,

3952
03:06:34,400 --> 03:06:38,039
Speaker 45: five played around and wait and just stayed. There stayed

3953
03:06:38,080 --> 03:06:40,000
Speaker 45: in between two fifty, five like no more than two

3954
03:06:40,040 --> 03:06:42,360
Speaker 45: fifty five WHEN i, played BECAUSE i had to guard some,

3955
03:06:42,440 --> 03:06:43,760
Speaker 45: threes you know WHAT i. Mean that year we won a,

3956
03:06:43,840 --> 03:06:46,480
Speaker 45: Championship i'm guarding that, run the whole. Run i'm Going Richard,

3957
03:06:46,520 --> 03:06:49,680
Speaker 45: Jefferson Josh, howard you, know y'all, NIGGAS i can't chase y'all.

3958
03:06:49,720 --> 03:06:56,400
Speaker 45: Around i'm chasing y'all, around. Y'all i'm chasing y'all. Around,

3959
03:06:56,480 --> 03:06:59,160
Speaker 45: man these Screens Richard, Jefferson josh, chawdee boys like this.

3960
03:06:59,440 --> 03:07:02,480
Speaker 45: Moving that's how We but that's if coach loved YOU.

3961
03:07:02,600 --> 03:07:04,600
Speaker 45: D it was like twenty if you want to you

3962
03:07:04,640 --> 03:07:06,600
Speaker 45: want these. MINUTES i ain't budget on YOU. D you

3963
03:07:06,640 --> 03:07:08,760
Speaker 45: know you had a special special love for U. D

3964
03:07:08,920 --> 03:07:10,960
Speaker 45: So i'll moved to the, three whatever it.

3965
03:07:11,040 --> 03:07:13,640
Speaker 1: Takes but before we get back to the, league ninety

3966
03:07:13,640 --> 03:07:17,199
Speaker 1: Six National championship loaded TEAM td McCarty.

3967
03:07:17,320 --> 03:07:22,320
Speaker 45: Nine, pros nine pro nine. PROS i was just talking

3968
03:07:22,320 --> 03:07:26,080
Speaker 45: to somebody earlier about this. Today just unbelievable. Team the

3969
03:07:26,160 --> 03:07:28,520
Speaker 45: best thing that ever happened to us was that year

3970
03:07:28,520 --> 03:07:30,440
Speaker 45: and people and you guys can understand. Us in college

3971
03:07:30,720 --> 03:07:33,640
Speaker 45: we went on Our european. Trip so we got a

3972
03:07:33,720 --> 03:07:35,440
Speaker 45: chance that year to go on To european. Trip was

3973
03:07:35,440 --> 03:07:37,360
Speaker 45: going to be ranked number, one but that trip gave

3974
03:07:37,440 --> 03:07:39,840
Speaker 45: us idea of what we can really. Be and to

3975
03:07:39,959 --> 03:07:42,240
Speaker 45: be honest with you, MEAN i practice was tougher than our.

3976
03:07:42,320 --> 03:07:46,640
Speaker 45: Games and that's not bragging. Pros but our practice used

3977
03:07:46,640 --> 03:07:49,360
Speaker 45: to be strong because we was fighting for. Minutes, YEAH i,

3978
03:07:49,480 --> 03:07:51,160
Speaker 45: mean you, KNOW i let the team in minutes AND

3979
03:07:51,160 --> 03:07:53,280
Speaker 45: i THINK i only average like twenty seven twenty eight.

3980
03:07:53,320 --> 03:07:56,000
Speaker 45: Minutes but we our. Marching the victory was twenty four

3981
03:07:56,000 --> 03:07:57,800
Speaker 45: to twenty, five you know WHAT i. Mean so we

3982
03:07:58,120 --> 03:07:59,560
Speaker 45: blew out a lot of, teams so we didn't get

3983
03:07:59,560 --> 03:08:00,600
Speaker 45: a chance to finish a lot of.

3984
03:08:00,680 --> 03:08:04,039
Speaker 5: Games BUT i love that. Team we're still together. Today.

3985
03:08:04,080 --> 03:08:06,280
Speaker 45: Man we got a group chat that we all stay,

3986
03:08:06,360 --> 03:08:10,080
Speaker 45: on you, know wishing each other happy, birthday, holidays. Everything,

3987
03:08:10,160 --> 03:08:12,920
Speaker 45: man we stay in really good, contact really special group

3988
03:08:14,160 --> 03:08:15,920
Speaker 45: and that we still all friends too to this.

3989
03:08:16,080 --> 03:08:17,520
Speaker 5: Day SO i loved that about that.

3990
03:08:17,600 --> 03:08:20,280
Speaker 1: Group did y'all have like AN a team and A b?

3991
03:08:20,480 --> 03:08:23,200
Speaker 5: Team, like let me tell you what's.

3992
03:08:23,240 --> 03:08:25,120
Speaker 45: Funny we didn't have AN amb, team but you know

3993
03:08:25,200 --> 03:08:27,039
Speaker 45: what he did start that, Year he started A jv.

3994
03:08:27,200 --> 03:08:29,400
Speaker 6: Team so let me tell you Why i'm asking you.

3995
03:08:29,480 --> 03:08:31,280
Speaker 6: THAT i know why you asked, me because we bust

3996
03:08:31,360 --> 03:08:33,280
Speaker 6: they ass WHEN i was their old. Kid, YEP i

3997
03:08:33,440 --> 03:08:36,439
Speaker 6: was a senior high school and they brought up seated because.

3998
03:08:36,240 --> 03:08:39,160
Speaker 5: Y'all didn't play. Y'all y'all was THE a team to? Me, yeah, no, no,

3999
03:08:39,320 --> 03:08:39,680
Speaker 5: no this is what.

4000
03:08:39,800 --> 03:08:44,200
Speaker 45: Happened Nazi, Muhammad, Yes Nazi muhammad came in and signed WITH.

4001
03:08:44,320 --> 03:08:47,760
Speaker 45: Us nazi people don't. Notice naves was like three fifty

4002
03:08:47,800 --> 03:08:50,640
Speaker 45: three sixty when he came into, college lost one hundred.

4003
03:08:50,680 --> 03:08:52,640
Speaker 8: Pounds coach he used to be on him every.

4004
03:08:52,760 --> 03:08:55,080
Speaker 45: Day, man he had to work out twice a day plus,

4005
03:08:55,200 --> 03:08:57,680
Speaker 45: practice get all his way. Off but he created A

4006
03:08:57,760 --> 03:09:01,800
Speaker 45: jv team for nas really so That nis had his own.

4007
03:09:01,879 --> 03:09:05,400
Speaker 45: Schedule so he had him and Like Wayne, Turner wayne

4008
03:09:05,480 --> 03:09:08,080
Speaker 45: played a couple of. Games but stack don't get you.

4009
03:09:08,160 --> 03:09:10,280
Speaker 45: Busted it wasn't. Y'all y'all wasn't. There there was some

4010
03:09:10,360 --> 03:09:12,320
Speaker 45: managers on the. Team it was like we.

4011
03:09:12,560 --> 03:09:13,880
Speaker 1: Was we was in high.

4012
03:09:13,920 --> 03:09:16,440
Speaker 5: SCHOOL i know that everybody's in. College that's, true that's

4013
03:09:16,600 --> 03:09:16,959
Speaker 5: you know What i'm.

4014
03:09:16,959 --> 03:09:18,960
Speaker 8: Saying so in my, mind oh, yeah it's going.

4015
03:09:19,080 --> 03:09:20,240
Speaker 5: Down we bust that.

4016
03:09:20,400 --> 03:09:22,320
Speaker 8: Ass but but at the same, time you, Know i'm

4017
03:09:22,320 --> 03:09:22,720
Speaker 8: gonna keep it.

4018
03:09:22,720 --> 03:09:24,240
Speaker 5: Funking we, knew y'all wasn't, there you know What i'm.

4019
03:09:24,240 --> 03:09:26,120
Speaker 8: Saying we knew all the best players and starters wasn't.

4020
03:09:26,120 --> 03:09:27,800
Speaker 8: There but that still was a game for us to get.

4021
03:09:27,840 --> 03:09:29,280
Speaker 5: Up that was doff for ours so he could be

4022
03:09:29,320 --> 03:09:29,520
Speaker 5: out of.

4023
03:09:29,640 --> 03:09:34,760
Speaker 6: Play that's, crazy huh right true facts you, Right okay

4024
03:09:34,879 --> 03:09:36,480
Speaker 6: was a regularigh school, Either that's.

4025
03:09:36,520 --> 03:09:42,480
Speaker 45: True Ron, Mercy, YEAH i heard, stories but Now i'm

4026
03:09:42,480 --> 03:09:44,840
Speaker 45: saying that. That but that team was. CREATING i never knew.

4027
03:09:44,840 --> 03:09:48,080
Speaker 45: That nobody know. That that was created to get him in. Shape,

4028
03:09:48,120 --> 03:09:49,879
Speaker 45: yeah get him in, shape and to give him some playing,

4029
03:09:49,959 --> 03:09:51,560
Speaker 45: time you, KNOW i, MEAN i think it was another

4030
03:09:51,640 --> 03:09:54,920
Speaker 45: player on the. TEAM i can't think of start that.

4031
03:09:55,040 --> 03:09:59,800
Speaker 45: Year ye want, Year we wanted t D Tony, Delk walter, McCarty,

4032
03:10:00,640 --> 03:10:03,680
Speaker 45: Myself Derek, Anderson derek that.

4033
03:10:03,959 --> 03:10:04,480
Speaker 8: Was WHAT i was thinking.

4034
03:10:04,480 --> 03:10:07,760
Speaker 45: About And Mark pope with none of them in The

4035
03:10:07,840 --> 03:10:15,560
Speaker 45: Screenwach Mark, Pope Mark pope and Sometimes pope won That Jeff,

4036
03:10:15,600 --> 03:10:18,640
Speaker 45: shepherd you know we got? Ship is that his the

4037
03:10:18,760 --> 03:10:19,840
Speaker 45: sons That, kentucky that's his.

4038
03:10:19,920 --> 03:10:30,240
Speaker 1: Son that's that's his. Son jumped back to, college, man

4039
03:10:30,240 --> 03:10:34,840
Speaker 1: because you had a motherfucking legendary, career legendary, teammates legendary.

4040
03:10:34,959 --> 03:10:37,840
Speaker 1: Coach tell me what that experience. Is Because jack went

4041
03:10:37,879 --> 03:10:39,120
Speaker 1: straight to the. League BUT i went to U.

4042
03:10:39,200 --> 03:10:39,440
Speaker 5: C L.

4043
03:10:39,480 --> 03:10:41,320
Speaker 1: A and it was the best time of my dumb

4044
03:10:42,000 --> 03:10:43,520
Speaker 1: dumb you want to.

4045
03:10:47,200 --> 03:10:49,600
Speaker 5: You never keep riding with. YOU i can't fant, that damn, Tests.

4046
03:10:49,360 --> 03:10:49,520
Speaker 8: Bro.

4047
03:10:51,400 --> 03:10:52,600
Speaker 26: You ain't telling me. NOTHING i don't.

4048
03:10:52,640 --> 03:10:53,840
Speaker 46: KNOW i know a lot of people that go over

4049
03:10:53,920 --> 03:10:59,600
Speaker 46: seas for that, day, right but that one THING i wouldn't, say, Though,

4050
03:10:59,680 --> 03:11:01,840
Speaker 46: jackie you ever had the, Opportunity, bro that would have

4051
03:11:01,840 --> 03:11:02,560
Speaker 46: been your best time.

4052
03:11:02,600 --> 03:11:06,080
Speaker 26: Ever Man like for, ME i KNEW i was going.

4053
03:11:05,959 --> 03:11:07,760
Speaker 46: For eight, months you know WHAT i. Mean but Like i'm, like,

4054
03:11:07,840 --> 03:11:09,360
Speaker 46: Yo i'm here to win a. CHAMPIONSHIP i don't win it,

4055
03:11:09,440 --> 03:11:11,800
Speaker 46: cool But i'm gonna have this most fun never and

4056
03:11:12,320 --> 03:11:14,120
Speaker 46: to being able to go to, class to get up

4057
03:11:14,160 --> 03:11:16,200
Speaker 46: and grind every, day man like we. Had, bro WHEN

4058
03:11:16,200 --> 03:11:18,280
Speaker 46: i tell you coach won the crazy coach at like two,

4059
03:11:18,320 --> 03:11:19,680
Speaker 46: WEEKS i see. YOU i THINK i picked the wrong.

4060
03:11:19,720 --> 03:11:22,840
Speaker 46: SCHOOL i want to. TRANSFER i call my. Mom she was,

4061
03:11:22,920 --> 03:11:25,800
Speaker 46: like she was, like, boy you stink like. This every

4062
03:11:25,840 --> 03:11:27,920
Speaker 46: morning we had to be on a suicide. Line we

4063
03:11:28,040 --> 03:11:30,600
Speaker 46: had twenty suicides in twenty minutes at six am.

4064
03:11:30,959 --> 03:11:32,199
Speaker 26: Every day with summer.

4065
03:11:32,240 --> 03:11:35,320
Speaker 46: School so like our first ten suicides is like the

4066
03:11:35,400 --> 03:11:38,600
Speaker 46: basic one free throw. Line then then the last team

4067
03:11:38,800 --> 03:11:42,800
Speaker 46: was baseline baseline other free throw line like And i'm.

4068
03:11:42,720 --> 03:11:44,840
Speaker 26: Like, yo DID i like this is not?

4069
03:11:45,080 --> 03:11:49,840
Speaker 46: Basketball yeah type. Thing SO i tell you one of

4070
03:11:49,840 --> 03:11:51,720
Speaker 46: the funnyest stories is we run a. Suicide we got

4071
03:11:51,760 --> 03:11:54,240
Speaker 46: like four left and like the guards had to, finish

4072
03:11:54,320 --> 03:11:55,920
Speaker 46: like twenty eight bigs had to finish like thirty.

4073
03:11:55,959 --> 03:11:59,520
Speaker 26: Five the markets feet caught on, fire like stopped, running

4074
03:11:59,600 --> 03:12:03,440
Speaker 26: like he, really he's mean. Suicide he mean.

4075
03:12:03,560 --> 03:12:06,680
Speaker 46: Suicide he run to the silence AND i, Quit, MAN i,

4076
03:12:06,760 --> 03:12:07,400
Speaker 46: quit like my feet.

4077
03:12:07,400 --> 03:12:08,160
Speaker 26: BURN i ain't doing it no.

4078
03:12:08,240 --> 03:12:10,879
Speaker 46: More Coach, kyle he was one to be All, billies

4079
03:12:10,920 --> 03:12:13,039
Speaker 46: so he was, like you know what if he would

4080
03:12:13,040 --> 03:12:14,280
Speaker 46: have finished the, SUICIDE i don't give you.

4081
03:12:14,280 --> 03:12:16,320
Speaker 26: All tomorrow, off knowing he wasn't gonna give us, off

4082
03:12:16,440 --> 03:12:17,120
Speaker 26: just trying to use.

4083
03:12:17,160 --> 03:12:21,600
Speaker 46: It so we got suicide this. Morning, man the market

4084
03:12:21,640 --> 03:12:23,160
Speaker 46: is sitting at half. Court he ain't got a. Run

4085
03:12:23,240 --> 03:12:24,920
Speaker 46: you know the reason why we gotta run to. That

4086
03:12:25,280 --> 03:12:27,080
Speaker 46: he's sitting at half, court no. Running we all look

4087
03:12:27,080 --> 03:12:28,840
Speaker 46: at him, like, yo we gotta jump him after this because,

4088
03:12:28,879 --> 03:12:31,280
Speaker 46: like no, way we gotta run. Suicide he ain't got a.

4089
03:12:31,360 --> 03:12:33,960
Speaker 46: Run but we don't want about beating the markets up back,

4090
03:12:34,040 --> 03:12:37,800
Speaker 46: then no. Way but, yeah Like jack that that.

4091
03:12:37,920 --> 03:12:38,200
Speaker 5: School.

4092
03:12:38,280 --> 03:12:40,000
Speaker 46: Man it was the most fun, ever, man just being

4093
03:12:40,040 --> 03:12:42,080
Speaker 46: able to prepare every, week having maybe two or three,

4094
03:12:42,120 --> 03:12:43,120
Speaker 46: games and the.

4095
03:12:43,120 --> 03:12:45,000
Speaker 26: Most fun with me was going on the, Road like

4096
03:12:46,080 --> 03:12:46,600
Speaker 26: you don't get.

4097
03:12:46,680 --> 03:12:49,280
Speaker 46: That you don't get that atmosphere and that that coach

4098
03:12:49,400 --> 03:12:51,200
Speaker 46: they brought well talking trash and it's just you and

4099
03:12:51,320 --> 03:12:54,200
Speaker 46: your your fourteen guys and you're going out there to

4100
03:12:54,280 --> 03:12:55,720
Speaker 46: go to batle and go to war and it's like

4101
03:12:55,840 --> 03:12:58,560
Speaker 46: you gotta win and survive out. Here ain't nobody on your,

4102
03:12:58,600 --> 03:13:00,800
Speaker 46: side and you, Know kentucky fans, trays but it feels

4103
03:13:00,800 --> 03:13:03,640
Speaker 46: like it still didn't feel like a home game because

4104
03:13:03,640 --> 03:13:04,080
Speaker 46: the way they were.

4105
03:13:04,120 --> 03:13:06,120
Speaker 26: Treating but it was. Dope. Man you couldn't ask for nothing.

4106
03:13:06,200 --> 03:13:07,920
Speaker 26: Better and like, everyone for me.

4107
03:13:07,959 --> 03:13:09,440
Speaker 46: Being number one, PICK i wanted to go back to

4108
03:13:09,480 --> 03:13:11,600
Speaker 46: school just when The National championship just to get that

4109
03:13:12,120 --> 03:13:14,520
Speaker 46: atmosphere and that like fun and high sighting that.

4110
03:13:14,840 --> 03:13:18,160
Speaker 1: Was tell me about what that team was like because

4111
03:13:18,160 --> 03:13:20,320
Speaker 1: you played with a lot OF nba players in. College

4112
03:13:20,480 --> 03:13:23,000
Speaker 1: your team was rock star, status you. KNOW i mean

4113
03:13:23,080 --> 03:13:25,960
Speaker 1: that's what social media just started hitting like y'all was

4114
03:13:26,000 --> 03:13:29,000
Speaker 1: the ship you lived, Buggies like what was? That?

4115
03:13:29,200 --> 03:13:31,840
Speaker 46: Like it was so man, like we stayed in The Wildcat,

4116
03:13:31,920 --> 03:13:34,800
Speaker 46: lodge and like we walked like outside our building where we.

4117
03:13:34,840 --> 03:13:36,520
Speaker 26: Stayed in the practice Was Wildcat.

4118
03:13:36,640 --> 03:13:39,120
Speaker 46: Live it's like where the players, stay but we got

4119
03:13:39,200 --> 03:13:41,160
Speaker 46: to let like ten regular students, states so the like

4120
03:13:41,200 --> 03:13:43,320
Speaker 46: you get extra. Benefits it's like where we, stayed like

4121
03:13:43,440 --> 03:13:45,840
Speaker 46: have an, apartment so we had like a game room

4122
03:13:45,879 --> 03:13:48,240
Speaker 46: and all in. There but like from here to like ten,

4123
03:13:48,320 --> 03:13:50,400
Speaker 46: steps it's like where we practiced, at but it would

4124
03:13:50,400 --> 03:13:52,840
Speaker 46: be like sixty seventy cars and people even auto grads

4125
03:13:52,879 --> 03:13:53,320
Speaker 46: every day.

4126
03:13:53,200 --> 03:13:54,200
Speaker 26: And we couldn't get away from.

4127
03:13:54,240 --> 03:13:56,960
Speaker 46: Them so it was, like, yo we can't even want to,

4128
03:13:57,000 --> 03:13:59,480
Speaker 46: class BUT i so like we started like using a

4129
03:13:59,520 --> 03:14:00,160
Speaker 46: golf cart go to.

4130
03:14:00,200 --> 03:14:02,560
Speaker 26: Class football team got. Mad they told her we couldn't.

4131
03:14:02,320 --> 03:14:03,240
Speaker 5: Use it no, more so we had to.

4132
03:14:03,320 --> 03:14:07,560
Speaker 26: Walk it's like it was so cold walking backwards the.

4133
03:14:07,600 --> 03:14:10,480
Speaker 46: Class but what was so fun about that year was you,

4134
03:14:10,520 --> 03:14:13,680
Speaker 46: know nobody like the returning players that, came Like Patrick

4135
03:14:13,720 --> 03:14:16,039
Speaker 46: pattinson And Ramon harris And Darris.

4136
03:14:15,760 --> 03:14:17,480
Speaker 26: Miller none of these gotten never played For.

4137
03:14:17,600 --> 03:14:19,360
Speaker 46: Cols so like the freshman's in there in the upper,

4138
03:14:19,400 --> 03:14:22,600
Speaker 46: classmen it's all something new for all of. Us so

4139
03:14:22,840 --> 03:14:24,400
Speaker 46: like they didn't know what Coach kyle was looking. For

4140
03:14:24,520 --> 03:14:26,080
Speaker 46: we didn't know what Coach kyle's looking, for so we

4141
03:14:26,160 --> 03:14:28,840
Speaker 46: all had to bond and come. Together but we did everything.

4142
03:14:28,879 --> 03:14:29,160
Speaker 26: Together.

4143
03:14:29,200 --> 03:14:31,440
Speaker 46: Bro we went bowling, together out to eat, together like

4144
03:14:31,520 --> 03:14:34,080
Speaker 46: we treated like you do as a league team that

4145
03:14:34,160 --> 03:14:36,400
Speaker 46: has great commoderie and one of those good teams because

4146
03:14:36,400 --> 03:14:36,880
Speaker 46: they hang out.

4147
03:14:36,920 --> 03:14:38,480
Speaker 26: Together it was a league.

4148
03:14:38,280 --> 03:14:40,959
Speaker 5: Team just about to say.

4149
03:14:44,160 --> 03:14:45,760
Speaker 46: Like we had all the other guys that've kind of,

4150
03:14:45,800 --> 03:14:47,320
Speaker 46: like you, know like if you got like, Me pat

4151
03:14:47,520 --> 03:14:49,600
Speaker 46: the markets he bled, like we, know were about to.

4152
03:14:49,640 --> 03:14:51,480
Speaker 46: Go but all the other guys, like, man they ain't

4153
03:14:51,480 --> 03:14:53,080
Speaker 46: gonna hang with. Us they don't really walk with. Us

4154
03:14:53,120 --> 03:14:54,960
Speaker 46: but we're, like, nah, bro we all the brothers all

4155
03:14:55,560 --> 03:14:57,720
Speaker 46: like we go on the water fight every. Night if

4156
03:14:57,800 --> 03:14:59,760
Speaker 46: one guy get, hurt the fift team guy gonna hang with.

4157
03:14:59,840 --> 03:15:01,840
Speaker 46: Him so they have like the guy they didn't think

4158
03:15:01,879 --> 03:15:03,480
Speaker 46: they was a part of our crew all to get.

4159
03:15:03,560 --> 03:15:05,760
Speaker 46: Together that's why our team was so fun and having

4160
03:15:05,800 --> 03:15:08,240
Speaker 46: so much and we were just doing whatever man like we.

4161
03:15:08,280 --> 03:15:10,040
Speaker 46: Could nothing was wrong for us to do in college

4162
03:15:10,080 --> 03:15:12,760
Speaker 46: at the. Time we walked in the corner stores, like oh,

4163
03:15:12,920 --> 03:15:14,359
Speaker 46: man that them guys, again.

4164
03:15:15,040 --> 03:15:19,680
Speaker 1: Right we're, here that's us college college was the outside

4165
03:15:19,680 --> 03:15:22,000
Speaker 1: of having children and being blessed to play in the,

4166
03:15:22,080 --> 03:15:23,720
Speaker 1: League like college was the funnest time of my. Life,

4167
03:15:23,800 --> 03:15:25,760
Speaker 1: man you in L.

4168
03:15:25,840 --> 03:15:27,280
Speaker 8: A you AT u S, la SO i know you

4169
03:15:27,480 --> 03:15:27,880
Speaker 8: was having a.

4170
03:15:27,959 --> 03:15:31,000
Speaker 1: Blast, yeah but, SEE i THINK i think different Because

4171
03:15:31,240 --> 03:15:33,040
Speaker 1: la IS la and it's so big and there's so

4172
03:15:33,160 --> 03:15:34,760
Speaker 1: much other shit to, do you know WHAT i. Mean

4173
03:15:34,840 --> 03:15:42,160
Speaker 1: so it's not you went to where motherfucking religious. RELIGION

4174
03:15:42,640 --> 03:15:45,800
Speaker 1: i remember the best. Part obviously going there was. Dope

4175
03:15:45,840 --> 03:15:47,840
Speaker 1: but my freshman year in ninety eight was THE nba,

4176
03:15:47,959 --> 03:15:51,320
Speaker 1: lockout so we had everybody at our. Game So i'm

4177
03:15:51,360 --> 03:15:54,080
Speaker 1: tripping coming from Like, Sacramento, like. Motherfucker we Got shaq

4178
03:15:54,160 --> 03:15:55,840
Speaker 1: And kobe at our. Game we got movie stars like

4179
03:15:55,920 --> 03:15:58,160
Speaker 1: and we Got snoop coming to our, game And i'm, like,

4180
03:15:58,280 --> 03:16:00,400
Speaker 1: damn this is WHAT ucla is. About, like this ship

4181
03:16:00,560 --> 03:16:02,760
Speaker 1: was a, trip but it was because there was THE nba,

4182
03:16:02,879 --> 03:16:05,520
Speaker 1: lockout so we had hell OF nba players at our

4183
03:16:05,600 --> 03:16:07,960
Speaker 1: game front and, center And i'm just, Like, yo this

4184
03:16:08,000 --> 03:16:10,120
Speaker 1: ship can't be. Real like it was just like that

4185
03:16:10,280 --> 03:16:12,480
Speaker 1: Real Li lah laying type. Ship and that's WHAT i

4186
03:16:12,560 --> 03:16:14,120
Speaker 1: just fell in love. With this, ship, Bro that ship

4187
03:16:14,200 --> 03:16:16,959
Speaker 1: was a. Blast that was my plan to go TO.

4188
03:16:19,040 --> 03:16:20,600
Speaker 32: I had we had the number of recruiting class that

4189
03:16:20,720 --> 03:16:23,720
Speaker 32: year At, arizona, Me Mike, bibbie And Eugenie. Kinson we

4190
03:16:23,760 --> 03:16:24,800
Speaker 32: had the number class.

4191
03:16:25,040 --> 03:16:27,800
Speaker 26: Year, okay, yeah y'all was. Loaded, YEAH i remember that class.

4192
03:16:27,879 --> 03:16:31,360
Speaker 32: Yea and we already Had Michael, Dickinson Miles. Simon we

4193
03:16:31,440 --> 03:16:33,720
Speaker 32: had all them guys. Already so we was going there

4194
03:16:33,720 --> 03:16:36,280
Speaker 32: and they end up winning national. Championship so it was

4195
03:16:36,280 --> 03:16:40,280
Speaker 32: supposed to work out my. ASS i couldn't stay. Out

4196
03:16:40,320 --> 03:16:42,280
Speaker 32: the club test was at. Eight i'm leaving the club

4197
03:16:42,320 --> 03:16:44,160
Speaker 32: at five. Thirty that that wasn't gonna.

4198
03:16:44,160 --> 03:16:44,960
Speaker 26: WORK i ain't gonna.

4199
03:16:45,000 --> 03:16:45,120
Speaker 25: Lie.

4200
03:16:45,160 --> 03:16:47,120
Speaker 26: Man first TIME i take that, test, MAN i fell.

4201
03:16:47,200 --> 03:16:50,320
Speaker 46: ASLEEP i was, like, MAN i don't need they come.

4202
03:16:50,400 --> 03:16:51,000
Speaker 5: Back all.

4203
03:16:51,080 --> 03:16:53,440
Speaker 46: Right i'm gonna tell you what day you're gonna be

4204
03:16:53,480 --> 03:16:55,280
Speaker 46: figuring something. ELSE i, said all, right, NOW i gotta

4205
03:16:55,280 --> 03:16:58,080
Speaker 46: lock it. Up brought me and snacked the second. Time first,

4206
03:16:58,120 --> 03:16:59,280
Speaker 46: time ain't bring no, Snack no.

4207
03:16:59,400 --> 03:17:03,160
Speaker 26: CAUL i got. This, YEAH i mean feeling names, wrong

4208
03:17:03,280 --> 03:17:04,760
Speaker 26: doing all. That you better get this. Right are you

4209
03:17:04,840 --> 03:17:05,720
Speaker 26: gonna be hurting.

4210
03:17:12,560 --> 03:17:14,600
Speaker 1: You as the head. Coach former head coach Of Saint

4211
03:17:14,640 --> 03:17:19,360
Speaker 1: pete made a HISTORICAL ncaa run this Past. March before

4212
03:17:19,360 --> 03:17:21,920
Speaker 1: we talk about that, run tell us how that job came.

4213
03:17:21,959 --> 03:17:24,680
Speaker 5: About, oh you the.

4214
03:17:24,800 --> 03:17:27,520
Speaker 47: Ad that we used to be THE ad At Saint.

4215
03:17:27,560 --> 03:17:29,480
Speaker 47: Peter's he worked with me At Seaton hall for eight

4216
03:17:29,560 --> 03:17:31,600
Speaker 47: years and we got the job over.

4217
03:17:31,640 --> 03:17:32,440
Speaker 5: There he called me.

4218
03:17:32,560 --> 03:17:34,640
Speaker 47: Up you, KNOW i trust, him you, KNOW i believe

4219
03:17:34,680 --> 03:17:37,760
Speaker 47: in his. Vision gave my first opportunity and then the

4220
03:17:37,879 --> 03:17:38,400
Speaker 47: rest is kind of.

4221
03:17:38,440 --> 03:17:42,560
Speaker 1: History what was that experience, like, obviously you, know coming

4222
03:17:42,600 --> 03:17:46,160
Speaker 1: From Seaton, hall going to a smaller, college but then

4223
03:17:46,320 --> 03:17:49,480
Speaker 1: being able to build them up not only into A

4224
03:17:49,560 --> 03:17:52,280
Speaker 1: cinderella story but just a well disciplined team that played,

4225
03:17:52,320 --> 03:17:53,120
Speaker 1: hard had a lot of.

4226
03:17:53,240 --> 03:17:54,680
Speaker 5: Heart what was.

4227
03:17:54,680 --> 03:17:56,440
Speaker 1: That talk to us about that process and how that.

4228
03:17:56,560 --> 03:17:58,840
Speaker 47: Happened you know it was at first it was, tough,

4229
03:17:58,920 --> 03:18:02,039
Speaker 47: right anytime you go from a high major to a low, Major,

4230
03:18:02,240 --> 03:18:04,960
Speaker 47: right things that you're not used, to you, know far

4231
03:18:05,040 --> 03:18:08,360
Speaker 47: as budget and how you travel and you, know having

4232
03:18:08,360 --> 03:18:09,959
Speaker 47: the strength coach and things like. That SO i had

4233
03:18:10,000 --> 03:18:11,800
Speaker 47: to work through all that. Stuff but at the end

4234
03:18:11,800 --> 03:18:13,600
Speaker 47: of the, day to be honest with, you met which

4235
03:18:13,680 --> 03:18:15,880
Speaker 47: we just got a dude that won the, ball, Right

4236
03:18:15,959 --> 03:18:18,320
Speaker 47: this dude that was, hungry had chip on his shoulder

4237
03:18:18,959 --> 03:18:22,400
Speaker 47: that was. Underrecruited people didn't believe in. THEM i bought them.

4238
03:18:22,440 --> 03:18:25,560
Speaker 47: In you, KNOW i like tough. GUYS i played a certain,

4239
03:18:25,600 --> 03:18:27,640
Speaker 47: way SO i want gods to fit my, personality, Right

4240
03:18:28,120 --> 03:18:29,800
Speaker 47: so WHEN i was going through the process of recruiting,

4241
03:18:29,840 --> 03:18:32,760
Speaker 47: GUYS i wanted guys like, That gods that you, know

4242
03:18:33,000 --> 03:18:35,040
Speaker 47: just hungry and it's got something to prove that wanted

4243
03:18:35,040 --> 03:18:37,400
Speaker 47: to you, know eat your, food you feel. Me and

4244
03:18:37,560 --> 03:18:39,760
Speaker 47: that's kind of the GUYS i bought. In and you,

4245
03:18:39,800 --> 03:18:41,360
Speaker 47: know it was a build up for three years and

4246
03:18:42,160 --> 03:18:44,600
Speaker 47: to be hones, YOU i thought year two we had

4247
03:18:44,640 --> 03:18:46,600
Speaker 47: a good chance of doing something special WITH covid hit

4248
03:18:48,240 --> 03:18:49,880
Speaker 47: and then year, three you, know we kind of went

4249
03:18:49,959 --> 03:18:52,000
Speaker 47: up and. Down then you, know fourth year we kind

4250
03:18:52,000 --> 03:18:53,400
Speaker 47: of payed together and kind of made this run.

4251
03:18:54,680 --> 03:18:58,680
Speaker 1: Beautiful, obviously situations with situations like this are always bittersweet

4252
03:18:58,800 --> 03:19:01,200
Speaker 1: when you're working with the lower major program because when

4253
03:19:01,200 --> 03:19:03,680
Speaker 1: you do find when you do get that, success you

4254
03:19:03,760 --> 03:19:05,440
Speaker 1: know you're going to, go you, know up up to

4255
03:19:05,520 --> 03:19:08,720
Speaker 1: the major, league so to. Speak, uh being you built

4256
03:19:08,760 --> 03:19:13,600
Speaker 1: such an amazing energy and identity for, it how hard

4257
03:19:13,800 --> 03:19:15,120
Speaker 1: was it and what did you tell your?

4258
03:19:15,200 --> 03:19:15,560
Speaker 5: Guys?

4259
03:19:16,160 --> 03:19:18,080
Speaker 1: Uh when you decided to take the seat and draw

4260
03:19:18,280 --> 03:19:19,200
Speaker 1: seat and seat the hall head.

4261
03:19:19,240 --> 03:19:21,280
Speaker 5: Spot, Well i'll be honest with, you it.

4262
03:19:21,320 --> 03:19:21,640
Speaker 1: Was it was.

4263
03:19:21,680 --> 03:19:24,560
Speaker 14: Easy right, NOW i say easy in this.

4264
03:19:24,680 --> 03:19:27,240
Speaker 47: Point the guys made it easy for. Me RIGHT i

4265
03:19:27,320 --> 03:19:29,320
Speaker 47: went in the locker room and we were in there

4266
03:19:29,360 --> 03:19:31,920
Speaker 47: for three, hours, bro just chopping it, up kicking.

4267
03:19:31,959 --> 03:19:34,120
Speaker 8: It and Now god was, like, coach you gotta. Go you,

4268
03:19:34,200 --> 03:19:34,480
Speaker 8: know that's.

4269
03:19:34,560 --> 03:19:38,800
Speaker 47: Home you work your butt off of this. Opportunity that's

4270
03:19:38,800 --> 03:19:41,440
Speaker 47: something that we would do if we had the. Opportunity

4271
03:19:42,040 --> 03:19:43,960
Speaker 47: so when they told me, that you, know it, was

4272
03:19:44,440 --> 03:19:46,879
Speaker 47: it made it easy for. Me and then the next

4273
03:19:46,920 --> 03:19:50,240
Speaker 47: two hours we were just in there just reminiscent of the,

4274
03:19:50,360 --> 03:19:52,400
Speaker 47: journey and they making fun of me the WAY i

4275
03:19:52,480 --> 03:19:53,960
Speaker 47: coach and WAY i talk and you know all the

4276
03:19:54,000 --> 03:19:55,600
Speaker 47: other stuff that you know the players love to.

4277
03:19:55,680 --> 03:19:57,119
Speaker 1: Do but not it was, easy.

4278
03:19:57,160 --> 03:19:58,640
Speaker 8: Man they made it easy for, me For.

4279
03:19:58,760 --> 03:20:02,840
Speaker 1: Sureness that's beautiful looking back on the, journey on the,

4280
03:20:02,959 --> 03:20:06,120
Speaker 1: experience what particularly stood out to you about this tournament?

4281
03:20:06,240 --> 03:20:07,280
Speaker 8: Run you know?

4282
03:20:07,360 --> 03:20:10,360
Speaker 47: What just right for these, guys you, Know and Obviously

4283
03:20:10,360 --> 03:20:12,040
Speaker 47: i'm sitting here and told to you, Guys i'm blessed

4284
03:20:12,040 --> 03:20:14,120
Speaker 47: to be, Here but it wasn't for those, GUYS i

4285
03:20:14,120 --> 03:20:16,520
Speaker 47: went and bebre today talking to you, guys, Right so for,

4286
03:20:16,680 --> 03:20:19,960
Speaker 47: me for, them it was like everything. Right you know

4287
03:20:20,040 --> 03:20:22,920
Speaker 47: you at admit, major you, know you work your butt,

4288
03:20:22,959 --> 03:20:25,280
Speaker 47: off you look at this type of stuff ON tv growing,

4289
03:20:25,360 --> 03:20:27,600
Speaker 47: up and for them guys to be in that spotlight

4290
03:20:27,640 --> 03:20:30,160
Speaker 47: and perform the way they, performed LIKE i just was

4291
03:20:30,200 --> 03:20:31,960
Speaker 47: sitting back taking it in like for, real for, Real

4292
03:20:32,120 --> 03:20:34,840
Speaker 47: Like i'm sitting there like these guys getting a chance

4293
03:20:34,879 --> 03:20:37,520
Speaker 47: to build their brand right, now. Right you, know we

4294
03:20:37,600 --> 03:20:39,960
Speaker 47: got the white kid on my team to doug at

4295
03:20:40,040 --> 03:20:42,560
Speaker 47: it like he's making a killer right, now right with the,

4296
03:20:42,640 --> 03:20:45,000
Speaker 47: name image and likeness because his beard and where he

4297
03:20:45,040 --> 03:20:47,320
Speaker 47: played In america loved. Him and these guys are like

4298
03:20:47,520 --> 03:20:50,960
Speaker 47: now starting to get the everything that the hot majors, get,

4299
03:20:51,440 --> 03:20:53,080
Speaker 47: right all their attention and stuff like.

4300
03:20:53,120 --> 03:20:55,440
Speaker 8: That SO i just love their attention for.

4301
03:20:55,520 --> 03:20:57,520
Speaker 47: Them and to be, honest you just playing against the

4302
03:20:57,560 --> 03:20:59,080
Speaker 47: best teams and knocking them.

4303
03:20:59,120 --> 03:21:04,199
Speaker 1: Off real, talk what was it like to finally sign

4304
03:21:04,240 --> 03:21:06,480
Speaker 1: your name on that dotted, line you, know getting a

4305
03:21:06,560 --> 03:21:09,680
Speaker 1: chance to play, there going, back going down and then coming. Back,

4306
03:21:09,760 --> 03:21:12,640
Speaker 1: now what was it like when you signed your name

4307
03:21:12,720 --> 03:21:13,879
Speaker 1: as the head coach at.

4308
03:21:13,840 --> 03:21:16,560
Speaker 47: The right, Right So i'm gonna be you, know this

4309
03:21:16,680 --> 03:21:18,200
Speaker 47: is a real, show so you got to be be, real,

4310
03:21:18,280 --> 03:21:20,680
Speaker 47: right it's real fake stuff, here, Right so you, KNOW

4311
03:21:21,320 --> 03:21:22,800
Speaker 47: i had to make sure they understand that they wasn't

4312
03:21:22,800 --> 03:21:26,160
Speaker 47: gonna hit me with the hometown hero, nonsense, right because you,

4313
03:21:26,200 --> 03:21:28,080
Speaker 47: know when you're going back To Alma, mata it's, like

4314
03:21:28,160 --> 03:21:30,200
Speaker 47: oh you come back. Here so now they did yan

4315
03:21:30,240 --> 03:21:31,720
Speaker 47: to short change. You i'm, like now you're not gonna

4316
03:21:31,760 --> 03:21:33,920
Speaker 47: hit me with the hometown, Hero like we're gonna do.

4317
03:21:33,959 --> 03:21:34,520
Speaker 47: This we're gonna do, this.

4318
03:21:34,680 --> 03:21:36,600
Speaker 8: Right it got to make sense for both of, us,

4319
03:21:37,280 --> 03:21:38,080
Speaker 8: man for me to tell you.

4320
03:21:38,160 --> 03:21:40,720
Speaker 47: Truth WHEN i looked at, IT i had to make

4321
03:21:40,760 --> 03:21:43,200
Speaker 47: sure it was good because this is, home and with,

4322
03:21:43,360 --> 03:21:45,320
Speaker 47: home you don't want to mess it, up right when

4323
03:21:45,320 --> 03:21:46,480
Speaker 47: you want to go in there and make sure it's

4324
03:21:46,520 --> 03:21:49,240
Speaker 47: the right situation with the right. People AND i trust

4325
03:21:49,280 --> 03:21:51,320
Speaker 47: the people that was here at the time right, now

4326
03:21:52,400 --> 03:21:54,360
Speaker 47: AND i can't mess it. Up it's too important for.

4327
03:21:54,440 --> 03:21:56,000
Speaker 47: Me SO i had to make sure everything was. Right

4328
03:21:56,080 --> 03:21:58,200
Speaker 47: so WHEN i, signed like it was just like a

4329
03:21:58,560 --> 03:22:00,600
Speaker 47: sign of, relief right because it's just so much going,

4330
03:22:00,680 --> 03:22:03,800
Speaker 47: on like that run we made and coming back and

4331
03:22:04,120 --> 03:22:05,880
Speaker 47: everybody's happy but at the same TIME i had to

4332
03:22:05,920 --> 03:22:08,440
Speaker 47: make sure it was right on both ends for me

4333
03:22:08,640 --> 03:22:10,880
Speaker 47: for the, school and financial to keep it going