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Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up

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Speaker 1: straight Fire, fam, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight Fire for Monday, June.

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Speaker 1: It's NBA Draft Week and obviously we are celebrating on

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Speaker 1: this beautiful Monday morning with one of the best in

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Speaker 1: the business. Long interview with fran fra Sella breaking down

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Speaker 1: NBA Draft prospects. He knows the college players, he knows

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Speaker 1: the G league guys. Some spicy takes from Fred. We

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Speaker 1: recorded this on Father's Day. Uh Jade and Ivy fans

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Speaker 1: are gonna love what he has to say about the

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Speaker 1: Perdue Guard. He really is gushing, thinks he could go second. Overall,

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Speaker 1: there's a kid that I don't want to ruin this one,

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Speaker 1: but Kobe Bryant's name comes up to talk about a

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Speaker 1: young player who not many people know about. It's really good.

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Speaker 1: If you if you're a hoop had, you're gonna love it.

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Speaker 1: I wish I had more to say about the sports weekend.

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Speaker 1: I think I got like seventeen text from a couple

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Speaker 1: of buddies about golf. I just had no idea what

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Speaker 1: all weekend. Listen I hope everybody had a great Father's Day.

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Speaker 1: On Father's Day, I'm not watching golf. Okay. I woke

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Speaker 1: some hoops. Nearly got into an altercation playing hoops, which

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Speaker 1: is very weird and uncharacteristic of me. This guy, I

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Speaker 1: he's a former Division one athlete, six four, big dude.

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Speaker 1: He's a good player. But he was having a rough game.

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Speaker 1: And I joked that, oh yeah, he's like Shock, but

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Speaker 1: We joke around and he was not happy and you know,

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Speaker 1: got in my face, and um, it was just weird.

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Speaker 1: It was very awkward. I'm not listening. Some of the

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Speaker 1: guys out there think I talked trash. If I was

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Speaker 1: great and I was unstoppable, sure I might talk some trash,

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Speaker 1: but I'm not so I don't. Him and I just

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Speaker 1: happened to have to be having a rough day. But

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Speaker 1: nothing I did. I was just I was a caught

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Speaker 1: and then my buddy hit the game winner and it

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Speaker 1: Went out to breakfast with the fam. We've been watching

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Speaker 1: Stranger Things. We are now on season two. I will

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Speaker 1: need to watch the movie Hustle, as our guest friend

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Speaker 1: for Shila is in it, and a lot of people

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Speaker 1: say it's it's very good, so I'll definitely be checking

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Speaker 1: out Hustle this week. Draft is Thursday, So what better

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Speaker 1: to wet your beak with than forty solid minutes with

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Speaker 1: a great friend for Silla. Jason likes to think he

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Speaker 1: knows everything when it comes to sports. I know what

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Speaker 1: sports stands want, but for everything he doesn't. He knows

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Speaker 1: guy who knows another guy. All right, let's welcome into

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Speaker 1: straight fire. A guy who knows the NBA Draft better

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Speaker 1: than anybody. He's covered the draft forever. He announces college

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Speaker 1: branting out friend for Shella. How are you man, man, Jason,

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Speaker 1: it's a pleasure. I'm actually in two movies to two

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Speaker 1: second movie, uh Rise, is coming out on Disney Plus

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Speaker 1: about Janice Oh. That was a book right well, actually

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Speaker 1: But then they have me record at the very end,

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Speaker 1: Adam sand Or. I go, yeah, I know Adam Sandler. Hey,

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Speaker 1: We've been watching Kerman Wils since he was fourteen years old,

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Speaker 1: So so it's a story of you know, he's saving

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Speaker 1: it's a good it's a feel good story. It's I

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Speaker 1: five years he's the best player, no shock to me.

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Speaker 1: the country. And I still feel that way now. Orlando.

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Speaker 1: liked Sacramento. That's a crazy thing. He wanted to be there.

421
00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,960
Speaker 1: But anyway, so with Shade and Sharpe getting back to him,

422
00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,240
Speaker 1: when you're a bad franchise and you don't you can't dat,

423
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Speaker 1: can't draft Chet or Powo or Jabari, You you may

424
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Speaker 1: have to roll the dice on a kid like this

425
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,920
Speaker 1: and you deal with it. And if you're Jerry West,

426
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Speaker 1: you look like a genius. And if it turns out

427
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,840
Speaker 1: he's a bum, you get fired. But so what the

428
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Speaker 1: The other wild card frand seems to be this Dyson

429
00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,600
Speaker 1: Daniels kid g he played in the G League. He's

430
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:03,200
Speaker 1: a very strong guard. What do you know about him?

431
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,360
Speaker 1: And is this guy going top ten? Because a lot

432
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 1: of the chatter is that this new Portland front office

433
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 1: wants to go with Sharp or Daniels. But the problem

434
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,879
Speaker 1: is Damian Lillard. He ain't gonna want some some nineteen

435
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 1: year old coming in there because Damian Lillard thinks he

436
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 1: can still get to the playoffs and make a run.

437
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 1: It seems like Portland is a huge wild card here.

438
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Speaker 1: There's nobody at the there's nobody at the seventh pick

439
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 1: right now. Like I I wrote down fifteen names of

440
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,199
Speaker 1: guys that I would take in the first round. The

441
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,679
Speaker 1: other guys I'm not taking, like I'm not taking. I

442
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 1: hate to say it because you know, like a J. Griffin,

443
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 1: his father is a tremendous and Griffin, but a J

444
00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,399
Speaker 1: got hurt. He doesn't seem to be as explosive as

445
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 1: he was when he was in high school. He can

446
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 1: really shoot. It did not defend this year. If I

447
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Speaker 1: have to take a J. Griffin and I don't, I

448
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 1: don't mean this is a knock. He's gonna be a

449
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Speaker 1: multi millionaire. I'm trading that pick I got. There's if

450
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Speaker 1: I don't get the fifteen guys I want, I'm trading

451
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Speaker 1: to pick. And in Portland's case, yeah, they could take

452
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Speaker 1: Ben Mather and he fits. You know, he's a big are.

453
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Speaker 1: He's gonna make shots for Dame. They could take a

454
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 1: dice in Daniels. Dame can play off the ball some

455
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 1: who else did you mentioned? There was another guy you

456
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 1: mentioned Shad and Sharp. But if I'm Portland right now,

457
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Speaker 1: given where Damian Lillard is, I'm trying to package that

458
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,359
Speaker 1: pick and get some veterans to play with Dame because

459
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 1: Dame's only got you know, what three four more solid seasons.

460
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 1: And to your point, you can't wait on unless you're

461
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Speaker 1: absolutely sure that Shade and Sharp is the next superstar,

462
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Speaker 1: that Ben Matherin is great. I think that if you're Portland,

463
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 1: you've got to think about trading that pick. I think

464
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 1: Indiana is in the same boat, and I think New

465
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 1: Orleans is in the same boat because there New Orleans

466
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 1: particularly is very close to being a really good team

467
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,639
Speaker 1: depending on what Zion does. Well. Okay, let's say you

468
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Speaker 1: are the GM in Portland's Fran, and I am one

469
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Speaker 1: of your trusted advisors, and you're talking about like, what

470
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Speaker 1: do we trade in? What do we get? And I say, wait,

471
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Speaker 1: is it, Fran? What if we did the opposite, We said,

472
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Speaker 1: Damian Lillard, thank you for your service. We trade Dame,

473
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Speaker 1: we get more picks. As you said at the outside

474
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Speaker 1: of this podcast, we go in full tank mode. We

475
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Speaker 1: go Anthreny Simons, uh, Josh Hart, whoever the hell you got,

476
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 1: Diyson Daniels, whatever, and we shoot for the moon and

477
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Speaker 1: Victor next year in the draft, and we say, Dame, hey, listen,

478
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 1: we're not going anywhere. The West is stacked, Okay, the

479
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,919
Speaker 1: Clippers are coming back. The Lakers are coming back. We

480
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 1: know that Denver Nuggets are gonna be much better. The

481
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 1: Warriors are going nowhere. We have no shot with Dame.

482
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Speaker 1: Why don't we trade Damian Lillard? Well? I think it

483
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 1: makes perfect sense because do you you're basketball junkie meat too,

484
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Speaker 1: Do you think Portland's going anywhere? Absolutely not, They're not.

485
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Speaker 1: I don't care who Damon gets as a running mate

486
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Speaker 1: short of like Lebron, They're They're not a top ten

487
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 1: team in the West. Yeah, And the only reason you

488
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 1: keep him is because you know he's you know, dirt. Now,

489
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Speaker 1: Dirk had a Dirk had the magical year where they

490
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Speaker 1: won the title. Uh with that great you know, John

491
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 1: Marion and those guys. But Jet Terry too. I love

492
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Speaker 1: Jet Terry. I Jet you know, Jet played for so long. Um,

493
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think that's you know, but they but

494
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Speaker 1: they got a new GM and Joe Cronin, you know,

495
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:01,919
Speaker 1: so all of a sudden, how does he make his

496
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 1: mark on the franchise? And I don't know if it's

497
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Speaker 1: to trade him and get young and get these young

498
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,439
Speaker 1: guys in here and hope you get a Victor or

499
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 1: a Scoot Henderson who's going to be a fabulous NBA.

500
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Speaker 1: He's really good. I saw him in the g I

501
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 1: see I saw Dyson Daniel scooting those guys Jaden Harvey,

502
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Speaker 1: hardy Um. I did the G League Showcase in December,

503
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 1: and so I don't usually do g leau games, but

504
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 1: they said, hey, do you want to do the showcase?

505
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,959
Speaker 1: I said yes, and let me get back to So

506
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 1: he's a real deal. He can really play. He's just

507
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Speaker 1: give me an off the cuff NBA comparison. You know,

508
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 1: I almost I almost said Alan Iverson. That would have

509
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,919
Speaker 1: been sec that would have been sacred. I was like

510
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,120
Speaker 1: saying Kobe and someone is gonna listen to this god

511
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,400
Speaker 1: of a Iverson. That's not fair. But he's a scoring

512
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 1: machine in the back. He can score at will, like

513
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 1: he breathes, wakes up at three in the morning. He

514
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Speaker 1: gets twenty three on you. Yeah, and that he can

515
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Speaker 1: really score. And he's a he's a great kid. He's

516
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Speaker 1: a competitive guy. Family family circles tight and Puma just

517
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,400
Speaker 1: gave him seven figures and he'll be the seven He'll

518
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Speaker 1: be the second pick. They'll be a second pick. So anyway,

519
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 1: Dyson Daniels, I like him, I don't love him. He's

520
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,479
Speaker 1: not a super athlete. He reminds me an awful lot

521
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 1: of Josh Kiddy, who had a very good rookie year

522
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,880
Speaker 1: but obviously did not impact winning at all. Yeah, well,

523
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 1: is Josh gonna be good around good players? Will see

524
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 1: same thing with Dyson Daniels. He's a big point guard,

525
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: knows how to play the ausee. Kids are tough kids.

526
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 1: That's how they grow him over there down under. And

527
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Speaker 1: I like him. I don't love him as an NBA star.

528
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,959
Speaker 1: Think will be a good player, good starter maybe, Okay,

529
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Speaker 1: among your fifteen guys. One of my sleepers that I love,

530
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Speaker 1: I wanted. I think he's top ten material, the kid

531
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Speaker 1: out of Duke, Mark Williams, the center. I just watched

532
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:55,120
Speaker 1: Robert Williams have a massive impact on the NBA playoffs.

533
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 1: And Robert Williams is only a few years in the

534
00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 1: league now he can't stay healthy. I watched Mark Williams.

535
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 1: I think he led the country in dunks. He's up

536
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: there in blocks. I love this kid. Am I irrational

537
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 1: friend because he is Okay, it's on my list of fifteen.

538
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 1: He's he's a he's a live body, he's got a

539
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:17,360
Speaker 1: seven seven wingspan. He's a great kid, great family, um,

540
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 1: quick jumper, great timing. I believe he shot over from

541
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,439
Speaker 1: the line. They don't they don't use they didn't use

542
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: him that way obviously. But in a in a in

543
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 1: a league where you still have to guard your kids,

544
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 1: you still have to guard embiid, you still have to

545
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,199
Speaker 1: There's always there's always five or six teams that have

546
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 1: still have the legitimate big guys. You know, to me,

547
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: I I love Mark Williams in that ten to twenty range.

548
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 1: You know, I could see the Knicks because they're losing

549
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: Mitchell Robinson, Um, I could just he's just gonna be

550
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,679
Speaker 1: a good NBA player. I think he's a He's a

551
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,679
Speaker 1: very athletic, young big guy. And you cannot teach seven seven,

552
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 1: just can't. Yeah, let's go to a guy. I don't

553
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,120
Speaker 1: think anybody. Well, we do have some hardcore college hoops

554
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: fans listening, uh, I think saying it right. Try Easton

555
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 1: from l s U, this kid France. Again, I don't.

556
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 1: I don't kill me for the stats, but you look

557
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 1: at his numbers and he is exactly. There are some

558
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: of these advanced stats when they come to like steal percentage,

559
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 1: block percentage, TORII. Easton is an absolute monster. Fouls drawn.

560
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,959
Speaker 1: He gets the line like nobody if I'm looking at

561
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 1: a diamond in the rough. All of the analytics say

562
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: this kid is going to be a study, and listen,

563
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 1: I don't want to go overboard, Fran don't laugh. But

564
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: I did watch some high school tape. He went at

565
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: it with Paolo ban Caro up in the Northwest. I

566
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 1: guess they went to rival high schools and like didn't

567
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: do a bad job. First of all, when you when

568
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 1: you mentioned the two oh six, okay, which is I

569
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: think the area code up there? Yeah, okay, I mean

570
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: the two oh six. Now we're talking. I mentioned Jet

571
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 1: Terry before, and Jamal Crawford and Brandon Roy and you

572
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 1: know so many of will Conroy. I haven't go on

573
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: and on. Seattle produces some tough kids. That is a

574
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: you come out of Seattle, you you're a tough kid.

575
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:00,959
Speaker 1: That's just the way they are, the way they make

576
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: him up there. This kid. Um. I always stay this

577
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: about the NBA. There's twenty five superstars and everybody else

578
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: is a role player. Everybody else is a role player,

579
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: you know, and so try Easton to me, has a

580
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: chance to be a very good role player. Maybe a

581
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: fifth starter, maybe off the bench. Energy guy um offensive

582
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: the one thing I worry about energy, energy level sky high,

583
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: very athletic. Um not a great ball handling decision. He

584
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: may he's not a cerebral offensive player. That is gonna

585
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: have to change. He had freedom to make mistakes at

586
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: L s U and they just threw him out there.

587
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 1: He puts up numbers. I like him, Um, I don't

588
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: actually have him in my fifteen, so that means that

589
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: I would I would trade that pick if I was

590
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: like a twenty three and and Jason McIntyre came to me.

591
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: My assistant, g M, what about Tari. You'd have to

592
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: convince me to take him. Otherwise I'm trading Jack. But

593
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: he's He's definitely an athlete. He definitely has a chance

594
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 1: to be a great role player because of his energy.

595
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: All right, let's go back up near the top. Ben Matherin.

596
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 1: I love this kid, and it's you know, it's weird.

597
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 1: I had him at number five in my mock draft

598
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: at last month, and all these people are like, no way.

599
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: I had a Jada and Ivy and I had a

600
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: sharp and great no Way, and lo and behold, Matherin

601
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: came out to the pro workout circuit and has just

602
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: been slaughtering people apparently. Uh, two on two, three on three,

603
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 1: he's killing like people can't guard him. Friend, what do

604
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 1: you what do you think of Matherin? Well, here's what

605
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: he's got. He is a professional shooter. He shoots it

606
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 1: off to catch, he shoots it off the move, He

607
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 1: shoots it effortlessly. Um. I don't want to use cliches,

608
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: but it comes off his hand nice like when he

609
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: shoots it, it's almost like poetry. You go, wow, that's

610
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: a that's a beautiful shot. Right, So he's got that.

611
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: He also has good size and he and he looks

612
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: like he plays hard. And he obviously got coached well

613
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: by two coaches Sean Miller defensively, and in this year

614
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: he was up and down in Tommy Lloyd system. My

615
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 1: I only have one concern and this and this is

616
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: I don't know this kid. Um, so I don't. I

617
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 1: don't have the background. I don't have the background. Intel.

618
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: I was at his final game of his career in

619
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 1: San Antonio against Houston and they punked him. I remember

620
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: you say it, Yeah, punked him, And so I worry

621
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: about that. So if I was interviewing him right now,

622
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: I would say, hey, tell me about the Houston game,

623
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: because I was there and you look like you quit. Oh,

624
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: you would like that. I would say that, because that's

625
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: what that's that's tough. It's tough, but it's why you

626
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: give a guy billions of dollars. But everything you said

627
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: about him physically is absolutely the case. He is ready

628
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: made to play in the league because all he's gotta

629
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: do is catch and shoot it, play hard on d

630
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Speaker 1: you know, be a good teammate. And I think he's

631
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: got a chance to be a really good NBA player.

632
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 1: But I would ask him about that because I was

633
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 1: there that night. It looked like he quit. Because Houston

634
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: team is a bunch of junkyard dogs. And and now

635
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: you know, Fran is not kidding when he says they

636
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: got punked. Now, I will say this in defense, and

637
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: this isn't much of a defense. He's a nineteen year

638
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: old kid. Oh. If you look at the Houston roster,

639
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 1: most of these kids are seniors and their twenty one,

640
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: twenty two years old. Fabian White for instance, Uh, it

641
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: looks like he was twenty I think twenty three. Like

642
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: the difference and friend, you know, this from recruiting. The

643
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: difference between twenty three year old dogs and a nineteen

644
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: year old kid kind of significant. And he did. He

645
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: did with wittle what's the word I'm looking for. He

646
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: kind of wild Wilton. Wilton. There he Wilton against fierce

647
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: aggressive dogs. Right, You're totally correct. And that's why I

648
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: give him the benefit of the doubt because physically he's

649
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: got the all the he's got all the tools. I'm

650
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: just saying, that's what I would ask him, and he

651
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,959
Speaker 1: might say to me a coach, Hey, you know my um,

652
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: I had a I had a death in a family

653
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: that week. Honestly, you know what I mean. So like

654
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: I'm sitting here as a guy that didn't interview him,

655
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: didn't get a chance to cover an Arizona game this year, Right,

656
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: you know you asked me about the Bearer guys, the

657
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: Kansas guys, the West Virginia guys. Uh, I did I

658
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: did perdue Early in the year. I talked to j Nivey.

659
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: I talked to you know, Chat I was up at Gonzaga.

660
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: That kid I don't know well enough to say, Hey,

661
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 1: I talked to him about that, and here's what he

662
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: told me. So on the surface. He's got every right

663
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: to be a top ten pick and a really good

664
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668
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: let's go Baylor Kansas head to head as we start

669
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: to wrap up here, So hand versus a boggy I

670
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: hope I didn't butcher very good? Yeah, um day, it's funny.

671
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: Bear has two kids that were both freshmen very similar,

672
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 1: Jeremy Sohan and Kendall Brown. Jeremy from Poland but lived

673
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: in England, Kendall from Minneapolis. Kendall Brown's being undervalued and Jeremy,

674
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: who I love as a kid. It's a kind of

675
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: draft where he like he's likely to go eight nine

676
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: tent and I think that's a little high. Oh, he

677
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: might get mad at me for saying that, but he's

678
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: gonna be a millionaire one way or another. So, but um,

679
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: I love Kendall Brown. I think Kendall Brown is a

680
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 1: unique athlete. Uh, defensive stopper, SHOT's gonna get better. Great kid.

681
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: Both are great kids. Jeremy is just a hard nosed, tough,

682
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 1: defensive kid. It's gonna be a good NBA player. I

683
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: really like both of those kids. Oh chai Um. I

684
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: don't think there was a player in college basketball that

685
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 1: improved more than he did. Because he was a nice

686
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: player as a junior. Put his name in the team

687
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:39,240
Speaker 1: that the NBA team said, yeah, not yet. The first

688
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 1: game of his college senior year. I'm gonna remind you

689
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:47,280
Speaker 1: this Michigan State champions Classic, he gets twenty nine, and

690
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: what he did from that point on. He took every

691
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 1: big shot the rest of the season, including in the

692
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Speaker 1: n c A Tournament, including in the final four, and

693
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: including the National Championship game. They were down fifteen at

694
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Speaker 1: the half. So what do I What do I think

695
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: about him? There's probably not a better outside shooter in

696
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 1: this draft in Ohio. He is legit and he the

697
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 1: other one is he has got onions. He will not

698
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 1: back down. The other stuff handling the ball defensively, he

699
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 1: should be better. I'm not totally sold. I think he's

700
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: gonna go too high, But if I were, I would

701
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: take him. If I had the seventeen eighteen nineteen pick,

702
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: I'd love to have him. He can really really shoot

703
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,919
Speaker 1: the ball and he's a good kid, how much Fran

704
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: From watching the NBA playoffs, Obviously people get smitten with

705
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 1: types of players. I've looked at five guys in this

706
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,280
Speaker 1: draft and I'm like, I can see if I squint,

707
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: I could see Jalen Brown maybe, Um do do do?

708
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: I mean? There were really no centers in the final

709
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 1: four Fran, the final four teams, it was just like

710
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: all wings and small small ball fives and guards, And

711
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 1: I don't know that kind of sours me. Like I

712
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: see Jalen Durham from Memphis getting all this love in

713
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: the top ten, and I'm like, I don't see it.

714
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: Is he playing in the final ten minutes of of

715
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: an NBA game? I don't see it. I take I

716
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 1: take the big kid from Duke Well, it's a good question.

717
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,399
Speaker 1: I think I would take the big kid. I would

718
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: take Mark Williams over Jalen Duran also. But here's one

719
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 1: thing to keep in mind, um Jalen Durhan and you've

720
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,399
Speaker 1: gotta factor this in and some teams it doesn't matter.

721
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: I'm not particularly nervous about taking a twenty one or

722
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: twenty two year old guy. I think he's gonna be

723
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 1: a good NBA player Jalen Brunson comes to mind right away.

724
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 1: Uh Sadiq Bay I think was twenty or twenty one.

725
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: You can go on and on. But this kid, Jalen

726
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 1: Duran is the youngest player in the draft, so he

727
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: should be in high school. Which it was tragic that

728
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: he and Monty Bates came out early and reclassified. I

729
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: thought that was tragic. And at the end of the

730
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Speaker 1: year we saw flashes of Jalen during being what you

731
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 1: need to be in the NBA if you're gonna be

732
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,879
Speaker 1: a big guy, and that is can you rebound? Can

733
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: you dunk from the dunker spot when we drop it

734
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:02,879
Speaker 1: off to you, can you move your feet reasonably? Well? Yes, yes, yes.

735
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,439
Speaker 1: And he's eighteen and a half. So again I would

736
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Speaker 1: take Mark Williams, but Mark Williams was two years older.

737
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: See that's the thing. So and that's a decision you

738
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Speaker 1: have to make as a as a front office and

739
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: to me in that case, I'm taking Mark Williams anyway,

740
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: because I'm always gonna you know, these guys are gonna

741
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 1: end up being unrestricted free agents some day and we're

742
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,839
Speaker 1: gonna lose him anyway. Take the guy that you think

743
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: can help you now, you know, and and in that case,

744
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: I like Mark Williams a little bit better than Jalen.

745
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,280
Speaker 1: But the way the league is, even though it's positioned

746
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: less right now, you still have to guard and beat

747
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: on occasion, you have to guard yo kitchen. You know,

748
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,359
Speaker 1: you gotta guard a handful of big guys. It's weird

749
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: you mentioned, um, you know, he is younger. I remember

750
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 1: Memphis Gonzaga an epic game and Drew Timmy took over

751
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: the game and Jalen Turton could do nothing to stop

752
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: I know, Drew Timmy, who isn't even an NBA player, right,

753
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's. Yeah, that's a great comparison.

754
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: I mean, Jen Turton could not stop him and couldn't

755
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,399
Speaker 1: do anything offensively. I know, you know, most nights it's

756
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: hard to stop Drue timm in college just because he's crafty.

757
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: But you know, but yeah, you know, I get it,

758
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: and I don't think he would have done that to

759
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 1: Mark Williams. Honestly. The thing about Jalen during that's interesting

760
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 1: is he's not really a shot walk. Yeah, he's not

761
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: like he's he's he's kind of you know, he's not statistically,

762
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,439
Speaker 1: But if I if I go to my I gotta

763
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 1: go to the next office here and tech check with

764
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: my analytics guy. You know, all right, so he's already player.

765
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 1: You want to mention that maybe I didn't bring up

766
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: where a sleeper? I'll never forget. Fran Is credited with

767
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,479
Speaker 1: the Desmond Baine call. And by the way, Desmond Baine

768
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: was so dominant. Listen, I know I took heap for this.

769
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 1: I thought he was their best player in the Minnesota

770
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: Series and g yeah, John Moran's awesome Desmond, and he

771
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: was playing hurt too, he was yeah, yeah, No, Desmond

772
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: is one of my all time favorites. And uh and

773
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 1: not because he's turned out to be a good player.

774
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: But I'm telling you, there's not a night that's He's

775
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: the nicest kid that I've ever dealt with. And I've

776
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: dealt with some great kids, but Desmond Bane, I mean,

777
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,240
Speaker 1: you know, he's going. He's if there was a Saint Desmond,

778
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: it would be him, because he's he's a saint. He's

779
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: that good a kid, all right. So I'm gonna look

780
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 1: at my list of fifteen here and a kid that

781
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: I really am starting to really like fall in love with,

782
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: and I saw him play twice in Pittsburgh because I

783
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: was there for the regional. Is Malachi Brandon from Ohio State?

784
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:31,439
Speaker 1: Really young? Um, very efficient, very efficient, you know, like

785
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: he got He got to Ohio State as a freshman.

786
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: By the way, same high school as lebron St Vincency May. Yes,

787
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 1: and he's a Columbus kid who went to school in Akron.

788
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: But um, he's the kind of kid that he's gonna

789
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: be a good NBA player. What I love about him

790
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: is his maturity and his character. Like he didn't come

791
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: in wanting to dominate the ball. You had e J. Liddell,

792
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 1: you know, he had some other guys, and even when

793
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: I saw them play in Pittsburgh, like he didn't take

794
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 1: a shot the first eight minutes of the game. And

795
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,280
Speaker 1: Chris Holdman did something interesting coming out of a time

796
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: out on an in bounced play underneath, he ran a

797
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 1: play to get Malachi going and he hit a baseline

798
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: jumper and then he went nuts. After that, it was

799
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 1: almost like, I can't let this guy be so unassuming

800
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: and so unselfish. I gotta get him going. And against

801
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: villan Over in the second round, he was unguardable in

802
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 1: the second half and he shoots from three. His game

803
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 1: is mid range right now. But he's so young, he's

804
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 1: so talented that I'm taking a chance on him, hoping

805
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: that I don't need him to be great as a

806
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:40,280
Speaker 1: young player, but develop into a really good NBA player.

807
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 1: So if he goes like in the eighteen to twenty

808
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: five range, he's going to a playoff team and so

809
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 1: theoretically they don't need him as quickly. Yeah, that's a

810
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 1: great point. So I'm looking at his numbers. First two

811
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: months of the season, he didn't crack double digits. But

812
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: at the end of the season, twenty two against Iowa, uh,

813
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 1: you know, twenty two against Michigan State, Like, I mean,

814
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: he finished real strong in that Villanova game. He was

815
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: the best player on the court for a house state

816
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: for sure, and the average twenty in the last ten

817
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: games of his career. And that's my point, Like it's

818
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,240
Speaker 1: almost like I don't really want to take over because

819
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I don't want to be the hot shot freshman.

820
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: We got older guys, and then a coach has to

821
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: be able to say, hey, we can't win unless you

822
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,959
Speaker 1: get twenty. You understand we're playing Iowa tonight. You gotta

823
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: get twenty. And that's where he really I thought, stepped

824
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: up and and made himself. And I talked to coach

825
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: Holman about this. There was no way he was a

826
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: one and done guy. By you look at those numbers

827
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: mid January, there's nobody talking about him as one and done.

828
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: And then that's quite a leap. And now he's top twenty.

829
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 1: That's what I mean. That's why, you know, I think

830
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 1: going to the right place will suit him well. I

831
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 1: don't need him to score or play a lot of

832
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: minutes early. Okay, So that's a good one. Any others

833
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 1: you want to toss out there besides yeah, why not?

834
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 1: Let me see? Uh you know, I'm looking at my

835
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: list of guys the ighlight and uh, I would say, uh,

836
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 1: let's look at Kentucky's recent history. Forget Devin Booker never

837
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 1: started a game. How dumb was that? Come on, cal,

838
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: But I'm joking. Col is one of my good friends.

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Speaker 1: But Emmanuel quickly Tylee Smaxie. This year the point guard

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Speaker 1: at Kentucky was severe wheel Or the transfer from Georgia,

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Speaker 1: and so ty Tye Washington had to play off the ball.

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Speaker 1: He's six three and maybe six four and he's a

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Speaker 1: point guard. I think Ti Ti is gonna be a

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Speaker 1: terrific value pick and be a good NBA player, in

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Speaker 1: part because he didn't play the point much this year.

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Speaker 1: And also Kentucky guard seemed to flourish and get better,

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Speaker 1: not because they leave Gal, but because they're around Cow

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Speaker 1: and they learn how to be coached hard, and Cow

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Speaker 1: puts a lot of guys in the NBA. Interesting. So

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at the St. Peter's line five points. It

851
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: looks like two of ten shooting. Just a bad game.

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Speaker 1: But like you said, a lot of people will be like, well,

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Speaker 1: is he that good? I remember James Harden famously had

854
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Speaker 1: a terrible final game in the Say It Tournament against Syracuse.

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Speaker 1: Many guys have, I mean, Andrew Wiggins was a nightmare

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Speaker 1: against Standard. Guess what most of these guys who lose

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Speaker 1: their final n C double a game, Yes, I wonder

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Speaker 1: if they're thinking ahead. Also, you gotta remember one of

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Speaker 1: the reasons they lose this because they're usually the best

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Speaker 1: player and if they have that one bad game, the

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Speaker 1: team goes home. Also that yeah, that's a great point

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Speaker 1: that St. Peter's upset. So I don't know as much

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Speaker 1: about thy tie I just don't over it felt like

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Speaker 1: Kentucky fans were like, get him the ball more, he

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Speaker 1: needs to be featured more. I didn't think their team

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Speaker 1: was very I don't. I don't think their team was great.

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Speaker 1: Like I love Oscar. By the way, Oscar is gonna

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Speaker 1: make a million dollars this year with then, I am yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and that's cool, good for him. Uh but no, I

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Speaker 1: just think that, um, you know, like cow sometimes is

871
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: stuck getting a collection of players because he can do

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00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: that at Kentucky, whether it's the one and Dunns or

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Speaker 1: I can take all these transfers which he's done recently.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I thought Ti Ti could have been better.

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Speaker 1: And he's definitely got the physical ability to be a

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Speaker 1: good NBA guard. I think that will happen. All right,

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Speaker 1: Fran for Sheila can add actor to his resume. Now,

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Speaker 1: I gotta go watch hustle. This gonna watch it, You'll

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00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: love it. A draft is Thursday. Do you care about

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00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: NBA free agency Fran or not? Really? No? You know

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Speaker 1: what I'm leaving Saturday for France. I am the new chief.

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Speaker 1: I am the new United States USA basketball three on

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Speaker 1: three coach, Olympic sport women won the gold in Tokyo.

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Speaker 1: Kelsey Palm went the way. Stephanie Dolson, the big, big

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Speaker 1: young lady. We are building a three on three program

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Speaker 1: and we're trying to qualify for Paris, and we were

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Speaker 1: taking a I got a team of G League guys,

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Speaker 1: good players. Good G League players were going over to

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Speaker 1: Europe four or five times this summer, and we're trying

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Speaker 1: to build a three on three programs. So I will

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Speaker 1: be following free agency from Afar, but I'll be worried

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Speaker 1: about trying to get to Poortier, France in one piece.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people coming out of the pandemic struggling.

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Speaker 1: Fran for Shella now acting and is coaching the three

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Speaker 1: on three. You're running the show three on three. Congrats

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Speaker 1: all your success. Man. Obviously well learned and I love

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Speaker 1: your analysis. That's why we keep having you on the

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Speaker 1: pod Mans. And I love talking hoop with you anytime,

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Speaker 1: and I'm glad we could always do this right before

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Speaker 1: the draft, and we'll we'll do some more during the year.

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Speaker 1: I'd love to learn stuff. Fran thanks a lot. Enjoy

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Speaker 1: your travels to Europe this summer. Jason, Thanks always a pleasure.