WEBVTT - Sia 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:12.959 Who's that man joking in my ear? He's Ron Burgundy. 0:00:13.000 --> 0:00:16.840 Good morning listeners, this is Tony fingle Sticks and you're 0:00:16.880 --> 0:00:21.720 listening to the Wait. Sorry, I don't know why I 0:00:21.800 --> 0:00:25.520 said that. That was a real brain fart. My name 0:00:25.600 --> 0:00:28.479 is Ron Burgundy. That's my name. I don't know what 0:00:28.520 --> 0:00:31.960 happened there, And I'm here with a very special episode 0:00:32.000 --> 0:00:35.440 of the Run Burgundy Podcast. Today we are sitting with 0:00:35.479 --> 0:00:41.000 the pop sensation that is Saia. Okay, continue, no last 0:00:41.080 --> 0:00:47.560 name like all the greats share Madonna, John h who 0:00:47.640 --> 0:00:51.000 is John? I don't know that one. John Popper, lead 0:00:51.040 --> 0:00:55.080 singer of Blues Traveler. You just say John. People know 0:00:55.120 --> 0:00:57.480 who you're talking about it? Do people still listen to 0:00:57.480 --> 0:01:04.360 Blues Traveler? Unfortunately? I'm joined today by my co host Carolina. Carolina, 0:01:04.400 --> 0:01:06.960 do you even know who Sia is? And before you ask, 0:01:07.240 --> 0:01:12.399 she didn't play Lilith Fair? Nick? Did you did you 0:01:12.440 --> 0:01:15.520 hear what I just said? Of course I know who 0:01:15.560 --> 0:01:17.600 she is. I've been listening to her for years now. 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:21.720 Her acoustic version of Elastic Heart really gotten through hard 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:24.280 time for me and my boyfriend of ten years. He 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:28.160 broke up with me crashing at some I've never heard 0:01:28.160 --> 0:01:33.560 this before. Oh sorry, that's my Riah app I got 0:01:33.560 --> 0:01:37.400 another match. I'll turn that off. Yes, for those of 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:40.000 you who don't know, I'm on Riah, which is a 0:01:40.080 --> 0:01:43.560 dating app for only famous people. It's hard for us 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:45.480 to day in the real world, so we need a 0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:49.680 secret online club to protect our privacy. Oh yeah, I 0:01:49.680 --> 0:01:53.120 mean I'm a podcast personality. So I actually applied to 0:01:53.160 --> 0:01:56.680 get on Riya. You have to fill out a little application. Really, 0:01:57.520 --> 0:02:05.360 and um I was waitless. Oh well you were. That's 0:02:05.400 --> 0:02:08.760 too bad, Carolina. I mean I absolutely had no idea 0:02:08.840 --> 0:02:13.080 that would happen to you wait list. Okay, so sorry, 0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:16.480 you know what, Have you met anyone on Ria? Yes? 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:20.840 I chadded with this woman, Marissa. We matched immediately. She's 0:02:20.880 --> 0:02:23.720 an influencer, which is great because it essentially means she 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:26.720 does nothing lots of free time, but she also has 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:29.519 money and endless time to meet up and try different 0:02:29.520 --> 0:02:32.480 restaurants with a potential lover such as myself. And did 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:34.640 you end up going on a date with Marissa? No, 0:02:35.200 --> 0:02:40.000 I didn't. Marissa ended up also matching with Derek Huff 0:02:40.000 --> 0:02:43.360 from Dancing with the Stars. I wasn't upset when she 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:45.919 told me. After all, he has symmetrical features and a 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:49.960 dancers physique. I just told her, you hit the jackpot, honey, 0:02:50.160 --> 0:02:52.280 get that guy to put a ring on it, if 0:02:52.320 --> 0:02:54.280 you know what's good for you. Okay, So no more 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:57.520 riot dates. Then, well, some ladies message me, but I 0:02:57.520 --> 0:03:00.400 swear give them an hour on that thing, And all 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:04.079 of a sudden they text me a picture of Derek Huff. 0:03:04.080 --> 0:03:06.840 You'll think I'm lying, but I was cuckolded for Derek 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:11.560 Huff three separate times. They're all dating Derek Huff. They're 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:14.840 dancing with the stars. I don't know how he does it. 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:19.639 Are there four of them? Just one? Right? Well, he's 0:03:19.639 --> 0:03:23.640 cleaning up and listen. I don't want some flashy romance. 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:25.880 I just I just want someone to get drunk with 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:29.040 on a Monday night while we dance to the Cornelius Brothers, 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:32.200 and then we could get in a drunken argument and 0:03:32.440 --> 0:03:36.320 make up the next morning with empty promises. I hear you. Yeah, 0:03:36.520 --> 0:03:38.640 some days, I just I just want someone to make 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:41.520 Baxter breakfast before I take him to music class. Yeah, 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:44.600 it's hard being all on your own, like I always say, 0:03:44.720 --> 0:03:48.400 And another one bites the dust. But why can I 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:54.360 not conquer love? Those are Seals lyrics because the hook 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:59.440 brings you back. I ain't telling you no, lie, Okay, 0:03:59.440 --> 0:04:03.040 and I think that Blues Traveler, well, I've got thick 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:06.160 skin and an elastic heart. We're don't see you again. 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:09.600 Suck it in, Suck it in, Suck it in if 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:13.120 you're in Tintin or Anne Blues Traveler. Okay, we're gonna 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:16.000 be right back with the Ron Burgundy Podcast after this message, 0:04:16.040 --> 0:04:33.080 which sire, Oh my god. Okay, keep listening, Carolina. How 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:37.400 how excited are you for our guest today? I'm very 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:39.800 excited on the podcast. I'm gonna be honest, and you 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:43.000 know me very well. I'm not often starstruck. I mean 0:04:44.560 --> 0:04:47.479 more often than not. I don't think you've ever seen me. 0:04:48.200 --> 0:04:51.000 I did see you chase Princess Leo once down Hollywood Bull, 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:55.400 I did a sweaty six ft tall Princess Leiah. But yes, 0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:57.919 that was the only time I've seen you really freak out. Yeah, 0:04:57.960 --> 0:05:00.040 but I mean this next, guys. I have been a 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:03.599 tremendous fan of her for a long time, and though 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:07.160 many of you know her as a bona fide pop's sensation, 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:10.680 her her story is not one of overnight success. It's 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:16.200 a It's a story of determination, survival, and undeniable talent. 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:19.719 As a songwriter and a solo artist, she creates music 0:05:19.760 --> 0:05:24.400 that is somehow deeply personal and at the same time universal. 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:29.080 She's also a very private person, a star who shines 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:33.320 so bright that she shuns the spotlight. Yes, I wrote that. 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:38.440 Wow for her, it isn't necessary. She turns that spotlight 0:05:38.480 --> 0:05:42.080 back on us, the audience, and makes us reflect what 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:46.800 is the concept of celebrity? What is art? What is music? 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:49.880 I consider it a gift that she's allowed us to 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:53.280 go deep with her today and remove the mask and 0:05:53.400 --> 0:06:04.160 let us now swing from the true chandelier that is Siah. Oh, Hello, Siah, 0:06:04.240 --> 0:06:10.520 How are you? Hello? Sia? I'm sorry? It is it 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:17.839 is me, um Hi, I'm great, good, wonderful. Commonly people 0:06:17.880 --> 0:06:23.440 call me Sia. Also it works for me. No, You've 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:26.720 got to be kidding me. I've worked, I worked so 0:06:26.760 --> 0:06:29.440 hard on that intro and I'm I'm a huge fan, 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:32.880 and it's it's Sia. I'm so embarrassed. I've actually never 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:35.760 seen you work, so I'm so embarrassed. I feel like 0:06:35.800 --> 0:06:41.359 a boob. Oh brother, will you accept my apologies? Sia, 0:06:42.360 --> 0:06:48.800 certainly will I'm a big fan of yours. Thank you. Wow. 0:06:50.120 --> 0:06:52.480 But look, I'm not just saying these. These aren't just 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:55.919 platitudes that I'm making up. I'm a serious fan. I 0:06:55.960 --> 0:06:59.680 go back to zero seven, before your first solo album 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:06.000 and night Only se Right, that's that's your I'm an 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:09.600 O G gosh, it's Cia. All this time, I've been 0:07:09.600 --> 0:07:14.840 saying Sia. Oh, but you probably used to get that 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:19.960 years ago, right. I would prefer it because, um, pretty 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:23.040 much everyone everyone thinks they're the first person to make 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:28.280 the joke, say so you would actually welcome it if you, 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:32.680 you know, stepped into an auditorium of ten thousand screaming 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:36.280 fans and they were all going, sih yeah Si, yeah, yeah, 0:07:37.120 --> 0:07:40.840 that would be lovely. That would be lovely. It would 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:46.160 be lovely. Wait, okay, I'm sorry, see you hold on once. 0:07:46.320 --> 0:07:49.120 Something's going on here. This is a long, practical joke 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:52.080 that my friends and the crew here have been playing 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:55.960 on me for years. You have all been letting me 0:07:56.040 --> 0:07:58.920 say Sia on purpose. Carolina, are you in on this? 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:01.200 I'm sorry. You just know how much you love to 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:02.920 see and we thought it would be a funny prank. 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:06.000 How did you never see anyone say her name? How 0:08:06.040 --> 0:08:08.160 did you never hear anyone say her name as Cia 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:12.000 for all these years? But no idea, it's weird. I 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:15.320 guess I would just so focused on see his music. 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:18.600 Normally i'd be furious at all of you, but this 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:23.160 is really funny. I wouldn't worry about it. I had 0:08:23.200 --> 0:08:25.960 a lot of problems saying words when I was growing up, 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:31.920 you and me both. Yeah, I was like, uh, like 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:35.920 I didn't know how many nas Banana hadn't it could 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:39.360 go on forever? No, no, no, no, no no no, yeah, 0:08:39.520 --> 0:08:42.200 it could go on. And then I also couldn't say elbow. 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:45.080 I couldn't say that el and the elbow. Um My 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:53.200 dad would say elbow and I'd say bow and would 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:56.319 you would you draw it out like that? Yeah? Yeah, 0:08:56.800 --> 0:09:01.120 and then you go nearly nearly I could. I couldn't 0:09:01.120 --> 0:09:04.760 say uh, I couldn't say refrigerator. Well, I still have 0:09:04.800 --> 0:09:09.520 trouble refrigerator, refrigerator, refrigerator. Yeah, so I just called it 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:16.320 a fridge. That's uncomfortable. Comfortable, Oh, uncomfortable imfortable. That's kind 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:21.920 of a door. And of course nuclear and for nuclear war, 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:25.079 which I was terribly afraid of as a child. Computer 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:27.880 I used to switch up put an R in their computer. 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:32.800 I'm gonna go on the computer anyway. You guys have 0:09:32.840 --> 0:09:37.319 a lot in common. I guess we did. That's that's 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:41.079 not That's not the worst thing, isn't me and I 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:45.120 have a lot in common? Okay, I'll take it. Hey, 0:09:45.280 --> 0:09:52.000 run are you single? Yes? I am? I certainly am. 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:56.240 Did your voice just drop? No? This is my normal. 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:08.520 But anyway, see, yes, I am currently single. How could 0:10:08.559 --> 0:10:13.240 it be? Well, that's what I tell Carolina all the time. 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:16.320 She makes fun of me for being single, and I'm like, look, 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:21.079 this is strange, strange that I'm single. Yeah, I'm not. 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:24.600 I'm not. I wouldn't saying I I do a lot 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:31.360 of gallivanting around town. So you're not a virgine. Get 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:35.640 out of town you But no, no, no, no, no 0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:43.679 face sor yeah, I'm starting to sweat. You got me? 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:47.880 Never let him see a sweat, that's what they that's 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:51.960 what they say in the news game. Never let him. Yes, 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:58.600 thank you, Bengo. Wow, this is a real banter. Um. 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:01.160 I mean, Carolina, you have to back me up on 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:03.240 this and no more jokes and this is the truth. 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:07.120 But I am. I can you tell see what a 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:10.160 die hard fan I am. Oh my god. I mean 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:13.760 Ron always says that the people who were first exposed 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:16.440 to see his music from the ending of six ft Under, 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:23.679 we're total posers. Thank you, thank you. See, I'm telling 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:26.839 you I was there before breathe me not that, not 0:11:26.960 --> 0:11:28.800 that I didn't cry my eyes out like the rest 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:30.559 of the world with that song at the end of 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:35.640 six ft under. Okay, no, no, we're not going to 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:39.319 go there. I'm gonna start crying just thinking about it 0:11:39.440 --> 0:11:42.400 right now whenever he thinks about the marriage of your 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:49.400 song and the end of six ft under. Okay, Hey, 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:54.400 professional atmosphere, Okay, let me put myself together. Got this 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:57.199 interview is off to a terrible start. I feel like 0:11:57.280 --> 0:12:02.719 a total boob. I'm sorry. Eat, that's two times you've 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:05.760 said you feel like a boom. Isn't a bad thing. 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:11.720 Let me just try to try to correct myself, collect myself. Correct. 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:18.400 I gotta come correct like O g that you exactly exactly. 0:12:18.760 --> 0:12:20.520 I want to go back to your work with Crisp. 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:27.319 Oh yeah, I always appreciate because I think we both 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:32.080 share a love of jazz fusion. Do you love jazz fusion? Well, 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:34.600 I certainly did. Then and I actually I have to say, 0:12:34.640 --> 0:12:38.040 I still I still do you still enjoy some Yeah? 0:12:38.040 --> 0:12:41.720 We called ourselves, um what was it? A hip hop 0:12:42.640 --> 0:12:48.960 jazz fusion explosion. That's what we called ourselves at the time, 0:12:49.320 --> 0:12:56.079 hip hop pop jazz infusion fusion, yes, confusion, um yeah, 0:12:56.280 --> 0:12:59.640 and that we yeah yeah. And he and our bass player, 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:01.880 he's to say, when things were cool, he would be 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:07.719 like that, that is crisp. Okay, that's why. Yeah, that's 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:10.240 why we called ourselves crisp, because we wanted to be 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:14.120 cool in the eyes of our bass players. Oh. I 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:19.280 just assumed you enjoyed what we call over here potato chips. 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:26.120 Oh I don't. I don't not. You do not enjoy 0:13:26.280 --> 0:13:31.400 a crisp It's true. I like those Hawaiian ones. I 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:34.840 don't know if I'm familiar with the Hawaiian ones. Hawaiian chips, 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:40.280 Hawaiian barbecue chips, like barbecue flavor. They're just Hawaiian chips. 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:44.840 They just, oh gosh, they're so yummy. I I'm actually 0:13:44.880 --> 0:13:47.560 an animal rights activist. Everyone knows this, and it's something 0:13:47.640 --> 0:13:51.480 you and I have in common. I like that. I 0:13:51.640 --> 0:13:54.360 just want you to know I use only cruelty free 0:13:54.440 --> 0:14:01.200 cologne I'm currently wearing is totally cruelty free. I'm really 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:04.320 proud of you. It was actually it was tested Tho 0:14:04.360 --> 0:14:07.280 was tested on Mobi. He tests all my cologes for me. Yes, 0:14:08.760 --> 0:14:12.640 I have him tests most good food. He's a good dude. 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:16.480 That movie he's certainly a good dude, and he's doing 0:14:16.600 --> 0:14:19.840 everything he can with his celebrity to help them animals. 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:22.480 I know animal rights is a big part of your life. 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:26.280 Can we just speak on that for a moment, because 0:14:26.280 --> 0:14:28.400 it's an issue, like I said, close to both of 0:14:28.440 --> 0:14:31.560 our arts, except for kangaroos, they're just evil. But um, 0:14:32.320 --> 0:14:35.360 but for for for many reasons, including environmental, Do we 0:14:35.480 --> 0:14:37.720 do we need to look at more plant based diets? 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:42.600 Is that? Yes? For sure? The best one is impossible 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:48.160 Possible foods. Impossible burgers are the most delicious thing in 0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:53.840 the world. I had one didn't almost just like exactly 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:57.440 like beef, and you couldn't even tell the difference. I 0:14:57.560 --> 0:14:59.560 walked into my butcher and I just gave him the 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:08.520 middle for anger. So take that. I just impossible, and 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:10.600 he had no idea what to make of it. I 0:15:10.960 --> 0:15:13.760 broke his glass case in his shop and just pummeled 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:16.480 him with a bunch of pork chops said, how dare 0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:24.240 you This impossible burger blows you away? Good? I'm so glad. 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:26.920 I mean, not about the violence part, but just then 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:32.040 impossible burger part. I felt good about the violence. I 0:15:32.120 --> 0:15:35.240 don't know, because I don't give it a lot of 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:39.920 fist fights. I only I although that I guess you're 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:45.200 really you fall under my rules for violence, which is 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:48.040 I would only want to punch someone or cook someone 0:15:48.160 --> 0:15:52.320 who had hurt like a dog. So you guess. I 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:54.800 guess they've heard a lot of animals. Sometimes there's those 0:15:54.880 --> 0:16:02.160 nippy dogs like you know, no, run, okay, you sure 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:04.640 you want to make a good impression like a lopso 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:07.440 aso or something like that, give a little backhand. No, no, 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:10.680 you do? You know you know what I say, run, 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:14.480 I say, if your dog does something wrong, roll the 0:16:14.560 --> 0:16:17.560 newspaper up and hit yourself in the head with it, 0:16:18.000 --> 0:16:22.240 because it's always your fault. Were the dogs doing wrong? Though? 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:24.520 I thought you were gonna say something totally different. I 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:26.840 thought you were gonna say, take a piece of newspaper 0:16:26.920 --> 0:16:28.600 and go to the bathroom on it in the corner. 0:16:29.640 --> 0:16:33.680 Oh yeah, well, I mean you can do a little 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:37.880 pe bad, little human p bad. M hmm. I tried 0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:42.560 diapers once because I love watching television so much. Yeah, 0:16:43.360 --> 0:16:47.920 every was that sensation. It was, well, here's exactly what happened, 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:52.120 is that I pay every thirty thirty seconds thirty minutes 0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:56.240 um usually, and so I was really frustrated because I 0:16:56.440 --> 0:16:58.720 was watching a lot of television, which I'm addicted to. 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:02.680 He was terrupting the flow. It was interrupting my television. 0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:06.040 So I ordered some diapers on Amazon whilst lying down 0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:09.639 watching television, and then they arrived and I put them 0:17:09.800 --> 0:17:12.320 on and I and then I watched television until I 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:14.240 needed to pee. And then I tried to pee, and 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:17.639 I realized my body wouldn't let me pee clothes on, 0:17:17.880 --> 0:17:21.840 lying down, It just wouldn't let me. And then so 0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:24.800 then I stood up, and I was like, can I pee? Will? 0:17:24.840 --> 0:17:26.959 I can be in the shower? Why can't I pee? Now? 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:29.639 I couldn't be in the diaper standing up with clothes on. 0:17:30.200 --> 0:17:32.119 So then I went to the toilet and I had 0:17:32.160 --> 0:17:35.280 to sit on the toilet wearing the diaper, and then 0:17:35.359 --> 0:17:37.679 I could pee, And then you finally could. It sounds 0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:40.399 like you need to sue the manufacture of the diaper company. 0:17:41.160 --> 0:17:45.600 It's weird, it's certainly. I have no idea what happened, 0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:48.520 but it was not useful for me and my problem. 0:17:49.400 --> 0:17:56.040 Ron had a previous girlfriend actually, who wore diapers for 0:17:56.119 --> 0:17:59.560 a road trip. She's an astronaut. Oh yeah, this was 0:17:59.600 --> 0:18:02.960 an act. She broke my heart and just letting you know. 0:18:03.200 --> 0:18:06.359 The one day we met in a silver shop, really 0:18:06.640 --> 0:18:12.320 the only good silver shop in San Diego. Fork it up, 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:18.560 I was. I was looking for an oyster fork for Baxter. Anyway, 0:18:18.640 --> 0:18:21.360 let's not talk about her. Um, I want to talk 0:18:21.400 --> 0:18:26.080 about you. See can you, I mean, do you have look? 0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:29.080 In addition to your brilliant solo career, you've written so 0:18:29.200 --> 0:18:33.080 many songs for other artists. Can can you indulge us 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:39.040 in explain to our audience what a top line songwriter is? Yes? Um, well, 0:18:39.240 --> 0:18:41.800 you know how when you listen to a song, there's 0:18:42.160 --> 0:18:48.480 music and instruments, and then on top of that there's singing, 0:18:48.920 --> 0:18:54.680 melodies and harmonies and words lyrics. Yeah. So, well, a 0:18:54.760 --> 0:18:57.440 top line writer is the person in charge of the 0:18:57.600 --> 0:19:02.480 melody and the singing and all of the harmonies parts 0:19:02.560 --> 0:19:04.880 and the words. Yeah. Well, to me, it's the easy 0:19:04.920 --> 0:19:07.920 bits and the words but to some people it's the 0:19:08.040 --> 0:19:10.760 hard bits, like to me that it would be really 0:19:10.880 --> 0:19:12.960 hard to be a producer, which is what the name 0:19:13.000 --> 0:19:15.480 of the person who takes care of all the music is. 0:19:16.200 --> 0:19:20.359 Oh yeah, Plus they're the shady people, aren't they? The producers. Well, 0:19:21.160 --> 0:19:24.760 I managed to find a pretty good bunch on a whole, 0:19:24.920 --> 0:19:32.199 I'd say, yeah, okay, so on a whole. It's an 0:19:32.280 --> 0:19:35.760 industry of sleeves balls. But you found a handful of 0:19:35.840 --> 0:19:38.720 good ones. I did. I have found the good. Eat 0:19:38.960 --> 0:19:41.440 so many, so many hits written by you, see a 0:19:41.520 --> 0:19:46.320 fuller I mean Diamonds by Rihanna. You wrote that it's 0:19:46.400 --> 0:19:50.280 so weird, shine bright like a diamond, Shine like a 0:19:50.400 --> 0:19:53.480 diamond sing it. I obviously can't do it as well 0:19:53.520 --> 0:19:58.720 as Rihanna. Yeah, she's pretty, she's amazing. I thought, well, 0:19:58.840 --> 0:20:02.480 I actually thought me on that demo when they played 0:20:02.560 --> 0:20:06.000 me finally her cut of the song, and I thought 0:20:06.080 --> 0:20:09.399 they were pranking me because she had it was so 0:20:09.760 --> 0:20:13.440 perfectly exactly the way that I had the demo that 0:20:13.560 --> 0:20:17.280 I had sent over, and so that's what that was weird. 0:20:17.560 --> 0:20:20.240 And then so I'm like, my Rihanna or is Rihanna 0:20:20.320 --> 0:20:24.680 me sure? But I often have that same daydream. Is 0:20:24.720 --> 0:20:26.840 there anything I can do vocally to make it make 0:20:27.119 --> 0:20:30.160 my voice sound more like Rihanna? Yeah, you could bring 0:20:30.240 --> 0:20:34.280 it up a little bit more into your nose, trying 0:20:34.320 --> 0:20:37.880 to bring like a diamond. That's much better, but else 0:20:38.000 --> 0:20:43.320 that's also sounds you really like one of the muppets. Well, 0:20:43.320 --> 0:20:45.439 I don't want to sound not also not a bad thing. 0:20:46.240 --> 0:20:50.679 I want to sound like Rihanna. He's like same, right, Diamon. 0:20:51.359 --> 0:20:53.480 I guess it's in the throat and then the nose 0:20:53.600 --> 0:20:59.080 face j Jame read like a diamond. It was closer 0:20:59.160 --> 0:21:08.240 to something like sir uh, let's see shame right dying? Yeah, 0:21:09.119 --> 0:21:14.440 okay it run, just push it out. You know you're 0:21:14.520 --> 0:21:21.200 hearing footsteps, aren't you. Rihanna's exactly Look see, I don't 0:21:21.200 --> 0:21:23.199 want to embarrass you, but I'm just gonna list off 0:21:23.280 --> 0:21:25.680 some of the artists that you've written songs for because 0:21:25.720 --> 0:21:31.240 it's it's truly amazing. Okay, So here we go, Kelly Clarkson, Shakira, 0:21:32.320 --> 0:21:41.320 pit Bull, Beyonce, Katie Perry, Brittney Spears, Maroon five, Maroon six, 0:21:42.160 --> 0:21:46.280 Average White Band, Bo Donaldson, and Haywoods. I mean you 0:21:46.359 --> 0:21:51.560 wrote their song Billy don't be a hero. Incredible, incredible, 0:21:51.920 --> 0:21:55.199 It's true. But my best work was The Wind Cries Mary, 0:21:55.760 --> 0:22:02.159 The Wind crist Mary by Jimmie Hendriks And me, what 0:22:02.960 --> 0:22:05.840 I mean, what is that like collaborating with an artist 0:22:05.960 --> 0:22:07.760 as a songwriter. I mean, do you ever do you 0:22:07.800 --> 0:22:10.440 ever have to say, hey, pit Bull, that lyric you 0:22:10.560 --> 0:22:13.359 just wrote his crap? Fix it? Because you don't know. 0:22:13.680 --> 0:22:16.360 I would be intimidated to say that to pit Bull. Well, 0:22:16.520 --> 0:22:20.359 I'll sometimes challenge somebody, depends on their their temperament, but 0:22:20.520 --> 0:22:23.720 most of the time I'm just there to work for them, 0:22:24.520 --> 0:22:29.840 and I um, I managed their stations and their egos, 0:22:30.000 --> 0:22:32.640 and well, I turn off. I'm not seeing the pop 0:22:32.680 --> 0:22:35.480 star when I work for somebody, I'm seeing the songwriters. 0:22:35.600 --> 0:22:38.640 So they are above me. And so I think you're 0:22:38.640 --> 0:22:43.440 too nice. I think you're being too nice. Thanks. But 0:22:43.600 --> 0:22:46.320 I I think that's the reason I get to write 0:22:46.400 --> 0:22:49.359 so many good, fun pop songs with so many people 0:22:49.480 --> 0:22:52.119 is because I'm not a jerk. I know. I just 0:22:52.240 --> 0:22:54.600 go in there and I'm like, at your service, sm'am 0:22:54.960 --> 0:23:00.239 or at your service, sir, yes, And I say how 0:23:00.280 --> 0:23:02.440 are you feeling? And we talked about the feelings, and 0:23:02.520 --> 0:23:05.119 then we wrote a song about that. Usually what pull 0:23:05.200 --> 0:23:09.240 feeling usually people it was I didn't make people until 0:23:09.320 --> 0:23:13.240 after I'd already written that song, which was definitely not 0:23:13.440 --> 0:23:15.959 supposed to be me singing on it, because I am 0:23:16.080 --> 0:23:20.880 certainly not shutting down any clubs once again. I would 0:23:20.880 --> 0:23:24.920 be intimidated by pit bull. He was a good cuddler. 0:23:25.000 --> 0:23:27.240 I met him just once afterwards, and they gave me 0:23:27.320 --> 0:23:29.440 a big dog and it was a little beautiful. It's 0:23:29.480 --> 0:23:32.280 good to know. It's something we don't know about old 0:23:32.320 --> 0:23:36.480 pit bulls. He loves a good cuddle. He's a good cuddler, 0:23:37.520 --> 0:23:41.159 you know. Truth be told. I dabbled around some songwriting myself. 0:23:41.359 --> 0:23:45.560 I I'm embarrassed to say this, but I'm gonna say 0:23:45.560 --> 0:23:48.080 it anyway. I co wrote the theme song to the 0:23:48.440 --> 0:23:50.880 the old TV show Punky Brewster. Do you remember that show? 0:23:51.720 --> 0:23:54.680 That was one of my favorite? Oh? Really? Yeah? Yeah? 0:23:54.800 --> 0:23:59.679 Me and a guy named Gary Portnoy wrote that one together. Oh. 0:23:59.800 --> 0:24:02.160 She was like one of my fashion icons. The other 0:24:02.400 --> 0:24:07.280 was Whoopie Goldberg um, and then Eddie um uh it's 0:24:07.280 --> 0:24:13.360 the comedian Eddie Murphy. Yeah, Leddie Murphy. I didn't write 0:24:13.359 --> 0:24:16.280 a song for him. They were my fashion icons. Well, 0:24:16.320 --> 0:24:19.160 I askew with I went onto a fashion. The only 0:24:19.200 --> 0:24:21.600 bomber is I didn't get credit for writing the Punky 0:24:21.640 --> 0:24:26.000 Brewster theme. It's still in litigation, so I'm sorry. I 0:24:26.160 --> 0:24:31.080 believe you. Oh okay, you cut it out, but maybe 0:24:31.119 --> 0:24:32.879 you can help me as a character witness when it 0:24:32.960 --> 0:24:37.439 does go to court. Well yeah, okay, okay done. I mean, 0:24:37.520 --> 0:24:39.960 I've got a lot of free time. We'll send contracts 0:24:40.000 --> 0:24:45.480 over to you. Back to your incredible career. So Shandelier 0:24:46.000 --> 0:24:48.760 was obviously a huge breakthrough hit. Did you Did you 0:24:48.840 --> 0:24:50.639 know when you were recording that song that it was 0:24:50.720 --> 0:24:53.800 just going to be gigantic? I didn't. I recorded it 0:24:53.920 --> 0:24:55.840 and then I sat down and I was like, oh, 0:24:56.600 --> 0:24:58.680 I think this one. I like it too much to 0:24:58.720 --> 0:25:01.280 give away. But then I was like, I was like nah, 0:25:01.560 --> 0:25:04.080 and so I sent it over to Rihanna and then 0:25:04.280 --> 0:25:07.040 Rihanna rejected it, and I was like, oh good, And 0:25:07.119 --> 0:25:09.879 I felt because I had sellers remorse as soon as 0:25:09.920 --> 0:25:14.760 I pressed send, So um I kept it, and I 0:25:15.000 --> 0:25:17.879 was really pleased because sometimes I had to get like 0:25:17.960 --> 0:25:20.480 I gave bird Set free went to a couple of 0:25:20.560 --> 0:25:24.320 different people before, and I had sellers remorse every time 0:25:24.400 --> 0:25:27.920 Rihanna an Adele, and then I had sellers remorse both times, 0:25:28.000 --> 0:25:30.960 but then both times I got it back just because 0:25:31.040 --> 0:25:33.920 that it didn't end up on their records, and I 0:25:34.000 --> 0:25:37.639 was relieved. You don't back to chandelier. I think what 0:25:37.880 --> 0:25:41.320 you really capture something, because people see chandeliers every day, 0:25:42.080 --> 0:25:44.520 and there's not a day goes by where a person 0:25:44.640 --> 0:25:47.000 doesn't see a chandelier, and if they're if they're lucky, 0:25:47.040 --> 0:25:50.960 they own at least three of them, like I do. So, Carolina, 0:25:51.000 --> 0:25:53.640 how many chandeliers do you own? I don't own a chandelier, 0:25:53.640 --> 0:25:56.720 and I don't really see them every day. See, people 0:25:56.760 --> 0:25:58.879 probably send you a free chandelier all the time. You 0:25:59.000 --> 0:26:03.480 must be sick of having just chandeliers being sent to you, right. Actually, 0:26:03.600 --> 0:26:06.600 the only person who ever sent me anything even resembling 0:26:06.640 --> 0:26:10.480 a chandelier with Celine Dion. But it was more of 0:26:10.560 --> 0:26:15.360 an abstract work of art, and she made it herself 0:26:15.880 --> 0:26:20.160 and I love her. I love her too. She hasn't 0:26:20.200 --> 0:26:24.399 sent her I love her three Yeah, I know she 0:26:24.480 --> 0:26:27.800 has yet to send me anything. Well, whenever you're performing 0:26:27.880 --> 0:26:32.440 in Vegas, just let her know, because that apparently that's 0:26:32.480 --> 0:26:34.879 all I mean. I don't know if she makes presents 0:26:34.960 --> 0:26:38.040 for everybody that comes through Vegas. But I couldn't believe 0:26:38.119 --> 0:26:41.560 the presents, so that she sent me flowers and roses, 0:26:41.640 --> 0:26:46.119