Speaker 1: Who's that man joking in my ear? He's Ron Burgundy.
Speaker 1: Good morning listeners, this is Tony fingle Sticks and you're
Speaker 1: listening to the Wait. Sorry, I don't know why I
Speaker 1: said that. That was a real brain fart. My name
Speaker 1: is Ron Burgundy. That's my name. I don't know what
Speaker 1: happened there, And I'm here with a very special episode
Speaker 1: of the Run Burgundy Podcast. Today we are sitting with
Speaker 1: the pop sensation that is Saia. Okay, continue, no last
Speaker 1: name like all the greats share Madonna, John h who
Speaker 1: is John? I don't know that one. John Popper, lead
Speaker 1: singer of Blues Traveler. You just say John. People know
Speaker 1: who you're talking about it? Do people still listen to
Speaker 1: Blues Traveler? Unfortunately? I'm joined today by my co host Carolina. Carolina,
Speaker 1: do you even know who Sia is? And before you ask,
Speaker 1: she didn't play Lilith Fair? Nick? Did you did you
Speaker 1: hear what I just said? Of course I know who
Speaker 1: she is. I've been listening to her for years now.
Speaker 1: Her acoustic version of Elastic Heart really gotten through hard
Speaker 1: time for me and my boyfriend of ten years. He
Speaker 1: broke up with me crashing at some I've never heard
Speaker 1: this before. Oh sorry, that's my Riah app I got
Speaker 1: another match. I'll turn that off. Yes, for those of
Speaker 1: you who don't know, I'm on Riah, which is a
Speaker 1: dating app for only famous people. It's hard for us
Speaker 1: to day in the real world, so we need a
Speaker 1: secret online club to protect our privacy. Oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean I'm a podcast personality. So I actually applied to
Speaker 1: get on Riya. You have to fill out a little application. Really,
Speaker 1: and um I was waitless. Oh well you were. That's
Speaker 1: too bad, Carolina. I mean I absolutely had no idea
Speaker 1: that would happen to you wait list. Okay, so sorry,
Speaker 1: you know what, Have you met anyone on Ria? Yes?
Speaker 1: I chadded with this woman, Marissa. We matched immediately. She's
Speaker 1: an influencer, which is great because it essentially means she
Speaker 1: does nothing lots of free time, but she also has
Speaker 1: money and endless time to meet up and try different
Speaker 1: restaurants with a potential lover such as myself. And did
Speaker 1: you end up going on a date with Marissa? No,
Speaker 1: I didn't. Marissa ended up also matching with Derek Huff
Speaker 1: from Dancing with the Stars. I wasn't upset when she
Speaker 1: told me. After all, he has symmetrical features and a
Speaker 1: dancers physique. I just told her, you hit the jackpot, honey,
Speaker 1: get that guy to put a ring on it, if
Speaker 1: you know what's good for you. Okay, So no more
Speaker 1: riot dates. Then, well, some ladies message me, but I
Speaker 1: swear give them an hour on that thing, And all
Speaker 1: of a sudden they text me a picture of Derek Huff.
Speaker 1: You'll think I'm lying, but I was cuckolded for Derek
Speaker 1: Huff three separate times. They're all dating Derek Huff. They're
Speaker 1: dancing with the stars. I don't know how he does it.
Speaker 1: Are there four of them? Just one? Right? Well, he's
Speaker 1: cleaning up and listen. I don't want some flashy romance.
Speaker 1: I just I just want someone to get drunk with
Speaker 1: on a Monday night while we dance to the Cornelius Brothers,
Speaker 1: and then we could get in a drunken argument and
Speaker 1: make up the next morning with empty promises. I hear you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: some days, I just I just want someone to make
Speaker 1: Baxter breakfast before I take him to music class. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's hard being all on your own, like I always say,
Speaker 1: And another one bites the dust. But why can I
Speaker 1: not conquer love? Those are Seals lyrics because the hook
Speaker 1: brings you back. I ain't telling you no, lie, Okay,
Speaker 1: and I think that Blues Traveler, well, I've got thick
Speaker 1: skin and an elastic heart. We're don't see you again.
Speaker 1: Suck it in, Suck it in, Suck it in if
Speaker 1: you're in Tintin or Anne Blues Traveler. Okay, we're gonna
Speaker 1: be right back with the Ron Burgundy Podcast after this message,
Speaker 1: which sire, Oh my god. Okay, keep listening, Carolina. How
Speaker 1: how excited are you for our guest today? I'm very
Speaker 1: excited on the podcast. I'm gonna be honest, and you
Speaker 1: know me very well. I'm not often starstruck. I mean
Speaker 1: more often than not. I don't think you've ever seen me.
Speaker 1: I did see you chase Princess Leo once down Hollywood Bull,
Speaker 1: I did a sweaty six ft tall Princess Leiah. But yes,
Speaker 1: that was the only time I've seen you really freak out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I mean this next, guys. I have been a
Speaker 1: tremendous fan of her for a long time, and though
Speaker 1: many of you know her as a bona fide pop's sensation,
Speaker 1: her her story is not one of overnight success. It's
Speaker 1: a It's a story of determination, survival, and undeniable talent.
Speaker 1: As a songwriter and a solo artist, she creates music
Speaker 1: that is somehow deeply personal and at the same time universal.
Speaker 1: She's also a very private person, a star who shines
Speaker 1: so bright that she shuns the spotlight. Yes, I wrote that.
Speaker 1: Wow for her, it isn't necessary. She turns that spotlight
Speaker 1: back on us, the audience, and makes us reflect what
Speaker 1: is the concept of celebrity? What is art? What is music?
Speaker 1: I consider it a gift that she's allowed us to
Speaker 1: go deep with her today and remove the mask and
Speaker 1: let us now swing from the true chandelier that is Siah. Oh, Hello, Siah,
Speaker 1: How are you? Hello? Sia? I'm sorry? It is it
Speaker 1: is me, um Hi, I'm great, good, wonderful. Commonly people
Speaker 1: call me Sia. Also it works for me. No, You've
Speaker 1: got to be kidding me. I've worked, I worked so
Speaker 1: hard on that intro and I'm I'm a huge fan,
Speaker 1: and it's it's Sia. I'm so embarrassed. I've actually never
Speaker 1: seen you work, so I'm so embarrassed. I feel like
Speaker 1: a boob. Oh brother, will you accept my apologies? Sia,
Speaker 1: certainly will I'm a big fan of yours. Thank you. Wow.
Speaker 1: But look, I'm not just saying these. These aren't just
Speaker 1: platitudes that I'm making up. I'm a serious fan. I
Speaker 1: go back to zero seven, before your first solo album
Speaker 1: and night Only se Right, that's that's your I'm an
Speaker 1: O G gosh, it's Cia. All this time, I've been
Speaker 1: saying Sia. Oh, but you probably used to get that
Speaker 1: years ago, right. I would prefer it because, um, pretty
Speaker 1: much everyone everyone thinks they're the first person to make
Speaker 1: the joke, say so you would actually welcome it if you,
Speaker 1: you know, stepped into an auditorium of ten thousand screaming
Speaker 1: fans and they were all going, sih yeah Si, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that would be lovely. That would be lovely. It would
Speaker 1: be lovely. Wait, okay, I'm sorry, see you hold on once.
Speaker 1: Something's going on here. This is a long, practical joke
Speaker 1: that my friends and the crew here have been playing
Speaker 1: on me for years. You have all been letting me
Speaker 1: say Sia on purpose. Carolina, are you in on this?
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. You just know how much you love to
Speaker 1: see and we thought it would be a funny prank.
Speaker 1: How did you never see anyone say her name? How
Speaker 1: did you never hear anyone say her name as Cia
Speaker 1: for all these years? But no idea, it's weird. I
Speaker 1: guess I would just so focused on see his music.
Speaker 1: Normally i'd be furious at all of you, but this
Speaker 1: is really funny. I wouldn't worry about it. I had
Speaker 1: a lot of problems saying words when I was growing up,
Speaker 1: you and me both. Yeah, I was like, uh, like
Speaker 1: I didn't know how many nas Banana hadn't it could
Speaker 1: go on forever? No, no, no, no, no no no, yeah,
Speaker 1: it could go on. And then I also couldn't say elbow.
Speaker 1: I couldn't say that el and the elbow. Um My
Speaker 1: dad would say elbow and I'd say bow and would
Speaker 1: you would you draw it out like that? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then you go nearly nearly I could. I couldn't
Speaker 1: say uh, I couldn't say refrigerator. Well, I still have
Speaker 1: trouble refrigerator, refrigerator, refrigerator. Yeah, so I just called it
Speaker 1: a fridge. That's uncomfortable. Comfortable, Oh, uncomfortable imfortable. That's kind
Speaker 1: of a door. And of course nuclear and for nuclear war,
Speaker 1: which I was terribly afraid of as a child. Computer
Speaker 1: I used to switch up put an R in their computer.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go on the computer anyway. You guys have
Speaker 1: a lot in common. I guess we did. That's that's
Speaker 1: not That's not the worst thing, isn't me and I
Speaker 1: have a lot in common? Okay, I'll take it. Hey,
Speaker 1: run are you single? Yes? I am? I certainly am.
Speaker 1: Did your voice just drop? No? This is my normal.
Speaker 1: But anyway, see, yes, I am currently single. How could
Speaker 1: it be? Well, that's what I tell Carolina all the time.
Speaker 1: She makes fun of me for being single, and I'm like, look,
Speaker 1: this is strange, strange that I'm single. Yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not. I wouldn't saying I I do a lot
Speaker 1: of gallivanting around town. So you're not a virgine. Get
Speaker 1: out of town you But no, no, no, no, no
Speaker 1: face sor yeah, I'm starting to sweat. You got me?
Speaker 1: Never let him see a sweat, that's what they that's
Speaker 1: what they say in the news game. Never let him. Yes,
Speaker 1: thank you, Bengo. Wow, this is a real banter. Um.
Speaker 1: I mean, Carolina, you have to back me up on
Speaker 1: this and no more jokes and this is the truth.
Speaker 1: But I am. I can you tell see what a
Speaker 1: die hard fan I am. Oh my god. I mean
Speaker 1: Ron always says that the people who were first exposed
Speaker 1: to see his music from the ending of six ft Under,
Speaker 1: we're total posers. Thank you, thank you. See, I'm telling
Speaker 1: you I was there before breathe me not that, not
Speaker 1: that I didn't cry my eyes out like the rest
Speaker 1: of the world with that song at the end of
Speaker 1: six ft under. Okay, no, no, we're not going to
Speaker 1: go there. I'm gonna start crying just thinking about it
Speaker 1: right now whenever he thinks about the marriage of your
Speaker 1: song and the end of six ft under. Okay, Hey,
Speaker 1: professional atmosphere, Okay, let me put myself together. Got this
Speaker 1: interview is off to a terrible start. I feel like
Speaker 1: a total boob. I'm sorry. Eat, that's two times you've
Speaker 1: said you feel like a boom. Isn't a bad thing.
Speaker 1: Let me just try to try to correct myself, collect myself. Correct.
Speaker 1: I gotta come correct like O g that you exactly exactly.
Speaker 1: I want to go back to your work with Crisp.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I always appreciate because I think we both
Speaker 1: share a love of jazz fusion. Do you love jazz fusion? Well,
Speaker 1: I certainly did. Then and I actually I have to say,
Speaker 1: I still I still do you still enjoy some Yeah?
Speaker 1: We called ourselves, um what was it? A hip hop
Speaker 1: jazz fusion explosion. That's what we called ourselves at the time,
Speaker 1: hip hop pop jazz infusion fusion, yes, confusion, um yeah,
Speaker 1: and that we yeah yeah. And he and our bass player,
Speaker 1: he's to say, when things were cool, he would be
Speaker 1: like that, that is crisp. Okay, that's why. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: why we called ourselves crisp, because we wanted to be
Speaker 1: cool in the eyes of our bass players. Oh. I
Speaker 1: just assumed you enjoyed what we call over here potato chips.
Speaker 1: Oh I don't. I don't not. You do not enjoy
Speaker 1: a crisp It's true. I like those Hawaiian ones. I
Speaker 1: don't know if I'm familiar with the Hawaiian ones. Hawaiian chips,
Speaker 1: Hawaiian barbecue chips, like barbecue flavor. They're just Hawaiian chips.
Speaker 1: They just, oh gosh, they're so yummy. I I'm actually
Speaker 1: an animal rights activist. Everyone knows this, and it's something
Speaker 1: you and I have in common. I like that. I
Speaker 1: just want you to know I use only cruelty free
Speaker 1: cologne I'm currently wearing is totally cruelty free. I'm really
Speaker 1: proud of you. It was actually it was tested Tho
Speaker 1: was tested on Mobi. He tests all my cologes for me. Yes,
Speaker 1: I have him tests most good food. He's a good dude.
Speaker 1: That movie he's certainly a good dude, and he's doing
Speaker 1: everything he can with his celebrity to help them animals.
Speaker 1: I know animal rights is a big part of your life.
Speaker 1: Can we just speak on that for a moment, because
Speaker 1: it's an issue, like I said, close to both of
Speaker 1: our arts, except for kangaroos, they're just evil. But um,
Speaker 1: but for for for many reasons, including environmental, Do we
Speaker 1: do we need to look at more plant based diets?
Speaker 1: Is that? Yes? For sure? The best one is impossible
Speaker 1: Possible foods. Impossible burgers are the most delicious thing in
Speaker 1: the world. I had one didn't almost just like exactly
Speaker 1: like beef, and you couldn't even tell the difference. I
Speaker 1: walked into my butcher and I just gave him the
Speaker 1: middle for anger. So take that. I just impossible, and
Speaker 1: he had no idea what to make of it. I
Speaker 1: broke his glass case in his shop and just pummeled
Speaker 1: him with a bunch of pork chops said, how dare
Speaker 1: you This impossible burger blows you away? Good? I'm so glad.
Speaker 1: I mean, not about the violence part, but just then
Speaker 1: impossible burger part. I felt good about the violence. I
Speaker 1: don't know, because I don't give it a lot of
Speaker 1: fist fights. I only I although that I guess you're
Speaker 1: really you fall under my rules for violence, which is
Speaker 1: I would only want to punch someone or cook someone
Speaker 1: who had hurt like a dog. So you guess. I
Speaker 1: guess they've heard a lot of animals. Sometimes there's those
Speaker 1: nippy dogs like you know, no, run, okay, you sure
Speaker 1: you want to make a good impression like a lopso
Speaker 1: aso or something like that, give a little backhand. No, no,
Speaker 1: you do? You know you know what I say, run,
Speaker 1: I say, if your dog does something wrong, roll the
Speaker 1: newspaper up and hit yourself in the head with it,
Speaker 1: because it's always your fault. Were the dogs doing wrong? Though?
Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna say something totally different. I
Speaker 1: thought you were gonna say, take a piece of newspaper
Speaker 1: and go to the bathroom on it in the corner.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well, I mean you can do a little
Speaker 1: pe bad, little human p bad. M hmm. I tried
Speaker 1: diapers once because I love watching television so much. Yeah,
Speaker 1: every was that sensation. It was, well, here's exactly what happened,
Speaker 1: is that I pay every thirty thirty seconds thirty minutes
Speaker 1: um usually, and so I was really frustrated because I
Speaker 1: was watching a lot of television, which I'm addicted to.
Speaker 1: He was terrupting the flow. It was interrupting my television.
Speaker 1: So I ordered some diapers on Amazon whilst lying down
Speaker 1: watching television, and then they arrived and I put them
Speaker 1: on and I and then I watched television until I
Speaker 1: needed to pee. And then I tried to pee, and
Speaker 1: I realized my body wouldn't let me pee clothes on,
Speaker 1: lying down, It just wouldn't let me. And then so
Speaker 1: then I stood up, and I was like, can I pee? Will?
Speaker 1: I can be in the shower? Why can't I pee? Now?
Speaker 1: I couldn't be in the diaper standing up with clothes on.
Speaker 1: So then I went to the toilet and I had
Speaker 1: to sit on the toilet wearing the diaper, and then
Speaker 1: I could pee, And then you finally could. It sounds
Speaker 1: like you need to sue the manufacture of the diaper company.
Speaker 1: It's weird, it's certainly. I have no idea what happened,
Speaker 1: but it was not useful for me and my problem.
Speaker 1: Ron had a previous girlfriend actually, who wore diapers for
Speaker 1: a road trip. She's an astronaut. Oh yeah, this was
Speaker 1: an act. She broke my heart and just letting you know.
Speaker 1: The one day we met in a silver shop, really
Speaker 1: the only good silver shop in San Diego. Fork it up,
Speaker 1: I was. I was looking for an oyster fork for Baxter. Anyway,
Speaker 1: let's not talk about her. Um, I want to talk
Speaker 1: about you. See can you, I mean, do you have look?
Speaker 1: In addition to your brilliant solo career, you've written so
Speaker 1: many songs for other artists. Can can you indulge us
Speaker 1: in explain to our audience what a top line songwriter is? Yes? Um, well,
Speaker 1: you know how when you listen to a song, there's
Speaker 1: music and instruments, and then on top of that there's singing,
Speaker 1: melodies and harmonies and words lyrics. Yeah. So, well, a
Speaker 1: top line writer is the person in charge of the
Speaker 1: melody and the singing and all of the harmonies parts
Speaker 1: and the words. Yeah. Well, to me, it's the easy
Speaker 1: bits and the words but to some people it's the
Speaker 1: hard bits, like to me that it would be really
Speaker 1: hard to be a producer, which is what the name
Speaker 1: of the person who takes care of all the music is.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Plus they're the shady people, aren't they? The producers. Well,
Speaker 1: I managed to find a pretty good bunch on a whole,
Speaker 1: I'd say, yeah, okay, so on a whole. It's an
Speaker 1: industry of sleeves balls. But you found a handful of
Speaker 1: good ones. I did. I have found the good. Eat
Speaker 1: so many, so many hits written by you, see a
Speaker 1: fuller I mean Diamonds by Rihanna. You wrote that it's
Speaker 1: so weird, shine bright like a diamond, Shine like a
Speaker 1: diamond sing it. I obviously can't do it as well
Speaker 1: as Rihanna. Yeah, she's pretty, she's amazing. I thought, well,
Speaker 1: I actually thought me on that demo when they played
Speaker 1: me finally her cut of the song, and I thought
Speaker 1: they were pranking me because she had it was so
Speaker 1: perfectly exactly the way that I had the demo that
Speaker 1: I had sent over, and so that's what that was weird.
Speaker 1: And then so I'm like, my Rihanna or is Rihanna
Speaker 1: me sure? But I often have that same daydream. Is
Speaker 1: there anything I can do vocally to make it make
Speaker 1: my voice sound more like Rihanna? Yeah, you could bring
Speaker 1: it up a little bit more into your nose, trying
Speaker 1: to bring like a diamond. That's much better, but else
Speaker 1: that's also sounds you really like one of the muppets. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't want to sound not also not a bad thing.
Speaker 1: I want to sound like Rihanna. He's like same, right, Diamon.
Speaker 1: I guess it's in the throat and then the nose
Speaker 1: face j Jame read like a diamond. It was closer
Speaker 1: to something like sir uh, let's see shame right dying? Yeah,
Speaker 1: okay it run, just push it out. You know you're
Speaker 1: hearing footsteps, aren't you. Rihanna's exactly Look see, I don't
Speaker 1: want to embarrass you, but I'm just gonna list off
Speaker 1: some of the artists that you've written songs for because
Speaker 1: it's it's truly amazing. Okay, So here we go, Kelly Clarkson, Shakira,
Speaker 1: pit Bull, Beyonce, Katie Perry, Brittney Spears, Maroon five, Maroon six,
Speaker 1: Average White Band, Bo Donaldson, and Haywoods. I mean you
Speaker 1: wrote their song Billy don't be a hero. Incredible, incredible,
Speaker 1: It's true. But my best work was The Wind Cries Mary,
Speaker 1: The Wind crist Mary by Jimmie Hendriks And me, what
Speaker 1: I mean, what is that like collaborating with an artist
Speaker 1: as a songwriter. I mean, do you ever do you
Speaker 1: ever have to say, hey, pit Bull, that lyric you
Speaker 1: just wrote his crap? Fix it? Because you don't know.
Speaker 1: I would be intimidated to say that to pit Bull. Well,
Speaker 1: I'll sometimes challenge somebody, depends on their their temperament, but
Speaker 1: most of the time I'm just there to work for them,
Speaker 1: and I um, I managed their stations and their egos,
Speaker 1: and well, I turn off. I'm not seeing the pop
Speaker 1: star when I work for somebody, I'm seeing the songwriters.
Speaker 1: So they are above me. And so I think you're
Speaker 1: too nice. I think you're being too nice. Thanks. But
Speaker 1: I I think that's the reason I get to write
Speaker 1: so many good, fun pop songs with so many people
Speaker 1: is because I'm not a jerk. I know. I just
Speaker 1: go in there and I'm like, at your service, sm'am
Speaker 1: or at your service, sir, yes, And I say how
Speaker 1: are you feeling? And we talked about the feelings, and
Speaker 1: then we wrote a song about that. Usually what pull
Speaker 1: feeling usually people it was I didn't make people until
Speaker 1: after I'd already written that song, which was definitely not
Speaker 1: supposed to be me singing on it, because I am
Speaker 1: certainly not shutting down any clubs once again. I would
Speaker 1: be intimidated by pit bull. He was a good cuddler.
Speaker 1: I met him just once afterwards, and they gave me
Speaker 1: a big dog and it was a little beautiful. It's
Speaker 1: good to know. It's something we don't know about old
Speaker 1: pit bulls. He loves a good cuddle. He's a good cuddler,
Speaker 1: you know. Truth be told. I dabbled around some songwriting myself.
Speaker 1: I I'm embarrassed to say this, but I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: it anyway. I co wrote the theme song to the
Speaker 1: the old TV show Punky Brewster. Do you remember that show?
Speaker 1: That was one of my favorite? Oh? Really? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Me and a guy named Gary Portnoy wrote that one together. Oh.
Speaker 1: She was like one of my fashion icons. The other
Speaker 1: was Whoopie Goldberg um, and then Eddie um uh it's
Speaker 1: the comedian Eddie Murphy. Yeah, Leddie Murphy. I didn't write
Speaker 1: a song for him. They were my fashion icons. Well,
Speaker 1: I askew with I went onto a fashion. The only
Speaker 1: bomber is I didn't get credit for writing the Punky
Speaker 1: Brewster theme. It's still in litigation, so I'm sorry. I
Speaker 1: believe you. Oh okay, you cut it out, but maybe
Speaker 1: you can help me as a character witness when it
Speaker 1: does go to court. Well yeah, okay, okay done. I mean,
Speaker 1: I've got a lot of free time. We'll send contracts
Speaker 1: over to you. Back to your incredible career. So Shandelier
Speaker 1: was obviously a huge breakthrough hit. Did you Did you
Speaker 1: know when you were recording that song that it was
Speaker 1: just going to be gigantic? I didn't. I recorded it
Speaker 1: and then I sat down and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I think this one. I like it too much to
Speaker 1: give away. But then I was like, I was like nah,
Speaker 1: and so I sent it over to Rihanna and then
Speaker 1: Rihanna rejected it, and I was like, oh good, And
Speaker 1: I felt because I had sellers remorse as soon as
Speaker 1: I pressed send, So um I kept it, and I
Speaker 1: was really pleased because sometimes I had to get like
Speaker 1: I gave bird Set free went to a couple of
Speaker 1: different people before, and I had sellers remorse every time
Speaker 1: Rihanna an Adele, and then I had sellers remorse both times,
Speaker 1: but then both times I got it back just because
Speaker 1: that it didn't end up on their records, and I
Speaker 1: was relieved. You don't back to chandelier. I think what
Speaker 1: you really capture something, because people see chandeliers every day,
Speaker 1: and there's not a day goes by where a person
Speaker 1: doesn't see a chandelier, and if they're if they're lucky,
Speaker 1: they own at least three of them, like I do. So, Carolina,
Speaker 1: how many chandeliers do you own? I don't own a chandelier,
Speaker 1: and I don't really see them every day. See, people
Speaker 1: probably send you a free chandelier all the time. You
Speaker 1: must be sick of having just chandeliers being sent to you, right. Actually,
Speaker 1: the only person who ever sent me anything even resembling
Speaker 1: a chandelier with Celine Dion. But it was more of
Speaker 1: an abstract work of art, and she made it herself
Speaker 1: and I love her. I love her too. She hasn't
Speaker 1: sent her I love her three Yeah, I know she
Speaker 1: has yet to send me anything. Well, whenever you're performing
Speaker 1: in Vegas, just let her know, because that apparently that's
Speaker 1: all I mean. I don't know if she makes presents
Speaker 1: for everybody that comes through Vegas. But I couldn't believe
Speaker 1: the presents, so that she sent me flowers and roses,
Speaker 1: and she sent me a beautiful, weird esque sort of
Speaker 1: lamp like a chandelier, but it had all bits and
Speaker 1: Bob's like my past record artwork on it. Well, don't you,
Speaker 1: I mean, don't you think? Chandelier is an aspirational song
Speaker 1: and it says, Hey, world, one day, I'm I'm going
Speaker 1: to be so effing rich. I can walk into a
Speaker 1: chandelier store and go nuts and swing around like a
Speaker 1: maniac and wreck the place and I'll pay for the
Speaker 1: damages like it's nothing. Well, I mean, that's something I
Speaker 1: related to in the song. I actually did that one.
Speaker 1: You've heard, You've heard, You've heard the song, You've heard
Speaker 1: completely destroyed a chandelier store? Have you heard the song run?
Speaker 1: I think he's greatly misinterpreting the song. I just I
Speaker 1: was just thinking you might have missed the point just
Speaker 1: a little bit. But it's also open to interpretation. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's what's absolutely that's what's great. It is once I
Speaker 1: put it out, it belongs to you. Well, seriously, though,
Speaker 1: I do feel bad about the thousands of dollars in
Speaker 1: damages I caused at the Chandelier store Inventura, and I'm
Speaker 1: still making payments on that every month. But that was
Speaker 1: the old run. That was like two months ago. I
Speaker 1: you know, I want to talk about the way you
Speaker 1: match your music to visuals, whether it's your stage shows
Speaker 1: or the incredible music videos you've done with Maddie Ziegler.
Speaker 1: Can we talk about her? What? What a discovery? Wow,
Speaker 1: she's my little munchkin. She's my friend now still I
Speaker 1: sort of, she's still like it, but she's not literally
Speaker 1: a munchkin, is she? She's not. Actually, I just want
Speaker 1: to make the listeners no, because it's about yes exactly.
Speaker 1: Of course that was sorry. It was a real was
Speaker 1: a real misleading statement I made there. But she's very
Speaker 1: special to you, toll special. She's going to be eighteen
Speaker 1: in September, and I met her when she was eleven,
Speaker 1: and I love her very much as a daughter, and
Speaker 1: um yeah, and sometimes I squeeze her really tight and
Speaker 1: I say, am I smothering you? And she goes, no,
Speaker 1: come closer, because I would be like, get off me, lady. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know I would be too, but you have a
Speaker 1: special relationship. I guess that's that's to be snuggled. That's
Speaker 1: wonderful to hear. Can I ask you this? Do you
Speaker 1: see music visually? How does the melody? I don't have synesthesia,
Speaker 1: but I do Um. I get out of the way
Speaker 1: and then it just comes through. So I believe, like
Speaker 1: whatever your higher power is or whatever you believe in,
Speaker 1: I guess just comes like I sort of pop out
Speaker 1: of the way and then I channel whatever that higher
Speaker 1: power is. I I do not see music when I
Speaker 1: close my eyes. No, I don't either, But my friend
Speaker 1: Labyrinth does. He totally sees it. And that's called synesthesia
Speaker 1: and is stead of disease. Well, it's not a disease,
Speaker 1: as it's not treatable, but it's when two or more
Speaker 1: sensations get together. So he only has a couple wants
Speaker 1: to live. It's gonna be fine. Oh, he's fine, Okay,
Speaker 1: it's fine. I sometimes see, well, I'll see little squiggly dots,
Speaker 1: you know, when I close my eyes, and I'll give
Speaker 1: them names like Fred or Steve or Cassandra. Are they
Speaker 1: there for that long? Well, I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just told you that that's weird. I'm being weird,
Speaker 1: not at all. I'm just a little nervous. It happens.
Speaker 1: That's like the dumbest thing I've ever said. Okay, it's
Speaker 1: just an aura. Probably, See how we live in this
Speaker 1: culture of celebrity that can quite frankly, be very toxic.
Speaker 1: And you navigated so well, what are your thoughts on celebrity? Yucky? Yes? Right,
Speaker 1: pretty yucky? Yucky? Yep, so I just got just famous
Speaker 1: enough to notice it was yucky before I um decided
Speaker 1: to quickly put wigs on it, taking measures to counteract that.
Speaker 1: Very very good on you. Yes, I swiftly realized fame
Speaker 1: wasn't for me, and I realized that the only thing
Speaker 1: missing in pop was mystery, So why not take up
Speaker 1: that space? So smart, smart cookie, Let's see you telling
Speaker 1: your Carolina. I know he see that little sound you
Speaker 1: admitted you emitted, emitted, Emit shows signs of intelligence. It's true.
Speaker 1: A dolphin like a dolphin exactly. M m m hm.
Speaker 1: Did you ever see Day of the Dolphin? Hello, Oh,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, you're really good at that. Talk about
Speaker 1: a movie that will make me cry. Day the Dolphin?
Speaker 1: That is that really a movie? It really is Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm going to go see it as soon as look
Speaker 1: it up, because you know, I woke up ten minutes
Speaker 1: before this interview, and then I spilled coffee on my pants,
Speaker 1: and then I realized the dog had showed my shoelace,
Speaker 1: so I had to find a spare shoelace, and I
Speaker 1: thread my shoelace on the way here to the studio
Speaker 1: and got my shoe on just in time, and then
Speaker 1: walked in just on time to be in conversation with
Speaker 1: you here, um and um. Now, as soon as we're finished,
Speaker 1: I'll be going to get back into bed to watch
Speaker 1: because I have a projector that projects onto my ceiling.
Speaker 1: And you're going to pop in Day of the Dolphin
Speaker 1: YEP with George C. Scott. Sure see. I I asked
Speaker 1: this a lot of guests, But how do you deal
Speaker 1: with the haters? You know? I just don't go on
Speaker 1: any social media, so I have my managers they manage
Speaker 1: my social media, and occasionally I have Twitter on my
Speaker 1: phone so I can say something if I want to,
Speaker 1: But then I actually have the self will to not
Speaker 1: go back on and look at anything that they say
Speaker 1: back unless I know it's going to be a nice
Speaker 1: conversation like I just said, hey, I love you. What
Speaker 1: are you guys watching purs usage? Because you don't need
Speaker 1: that bull crap. No, it was part of why again
Speaker 1: another reason I just thought, oh, I don't like being
Speaker 1: famous at all. Because there was a period where they
Speaker 1: were like die, goldfish die, and I was like, I
Speaker 1: look like a goldfish. Well I don't think. It was
Speaker 1: like thank you, and then I'll like die, horse face die.
Speaker 1: I was like, do I look like a horse of
Speaker 1: a horse face? And yeah, horses are beautiful creatures. Well
Speaker 1: I think so too, But at the time I just
Speaker 1: felt a little shocking because I thought I had a
Speaker 1: human face, and so I was made me feel really
Speaker 1: uncomfortable and sad and insecure. Um yeah, and then so
Speaker 1: the when I got off it Twitter, Yeah, well I'm
Speaker 1: still on it. I'm still getting pummeled. Actually asks people
Speaker 1: what they think about how he works all the time,
Speaker 1: because eventually someone will say something nice. I like to away,
Speaker 1: your eyes are so little that my eyes are so little? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's so little. I wish. I wish I hadn't
Speaker 1: heard that before, but I've heard I heard a lot
Speaker 1: of little beady eyes like a rat. They call me
Speaker 1: rat face. That's the animal I get a lot. I
Speaker 1: love them. They're beautiful. It's because I think the uniqueness
Speaker 1: is beautiful and they're uniquely little. You don't see it. Gosh,
Speaker 1: forgive me if this is totally inappropriate. Whatever you're gonna say,
Speaker 1: this is totally inappropriate, Carolina, Relax. I am not going
Speaker 1: to do anything inappropriate. I just have to admit that
Speaker 1: the whole time during this interview, I've been sensing a
Speaker 1: vibe and I'd be kicking myself if I didn't go
Speaker 1: for this moment. Just don't see you. I would I
Speaker 1: would like to ask you out for a romantic dinner. Well,
Speaker 1: I would love to come because although I am very
Speaker 1: busy watching television in my diaper um most of the time,
Speaker 1: which I so far, so good. I actually my adopted son,
Speaker 1: he's turned eighteen and you know, so he's out there
Speaker 1: in the world, and I do have time. I have
Speaker 1: made time. I have my time for love. So you
Speaker 1: would got totally go on a date with you. Totally,
Speaker 1: by the way, so you do not have to do this.
Speaker 1: This is yeah, and thanks no, but truly I am
Speaker 1: interested in uh yeah, I'm interested in that idea that
Speaker 1: is wonderful. That's just absolutely what you are. Beautiful. See
Speaker 1: a fuller and I know a wonderful vegan restaurant. It's intimate,
Speaker 1: and we'll go and we won't talk about the biz.
Speaker 1: We'll just get to know each other and I swear
Speaker 1: I'll be a total gentleman. Okay, I'm sure you will run.
Speaker 1: I can't believe this is happening. This, this is amazing. Um.
Speaker 1: So there you have it. Will we will make arrangements
Speaker 1: for this date Sea, Yeah, I'll probably pick you up.
Speaker 1: Does eight pm work? Yeah? Okay, that gives me enough
Speaker 1: time to watch the Dolphin movie before perfect. We'll have
Speaker 1: something to talk about. That's great exactly until you won't
Speaker 1: have to worry and I won't have to worry about
Speaker 1: what we're going to talk about. I will be pulling
Speaker 1: up in my beige Catalina and I don't know what
Speaker 1: that is. I'll good before it's a very very highly
Speaker 1: sought after muscle car from the from the mid seventies.
Speaker 1: Sounds great, I see I. I just can't thank you
Speaker 1: enough for joining us today and it's just been extraordinary. Caroline.
Speaker 1: Do you mind writing down my my phone number for
Speaker 1: see you there? Sure? It's one eight hundred. It's an
Speaker 1: eight hundred number. Yeah, I'll get it to your manager.
Speaker 1: That's the beginning of the suicide hotline. Um, people, it's
Speaker 1: it's not it's one number off. Trust me, it's one
Speaker 1: number off. Alright. Um. He feels a lot of hard calls.
Speaker 1: So see I I'll I'll see you in a in
Speaker 1: about six or seven hours. That sound good? Yay, okay, right,
Speaker 1: and I'm going to shine bright like a diamond for you. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm right, like like a naming. That's right. That's um,
Speaker 1: see a fuller. We can't thank you enough for being
Speaker 1: on the podcast, and I can't thank you enough for
Speaker 1: what this adventure may lead to. Um. One more just
Speaker 1: slightly heartbreaking thing for you, probably is that actually see
Speaker 1: a furler. Oh my god. But don't worry because I
Speaker 1: don't care further. I'm sorry. Look, if you don't, if
Speaker 1: you don't want to have this date, I understand now
Speaker 1: because I've blown your first name in your last name,
Speaker 1: and because guess what, I have my friends call me
Speaker 1: something entirely different, both of those things. So the dates
Speaker 1: still on. It's still on. She called it a date.
Speaker 1: It's a date, Carolina, I have a date. It's unambiguously
Speaker 1: a date, Fler. Okay, so what do we do now?
Speaker 1: Is anyone known? Do we think we will a commercial?
Speaker 1: Do we do? Okay? This is Ron Burgundy and I'm
Speaker 1: going on a date with c So everyone else can
Speaker 1: suck my fat one. Okay, we'll be right back on
Speaker 1: the Ron Burgundy podcast. That's okay, And we are back
Speaker 1: with the Ron Burgundy Podcast. And oh my god, today's episode.
Speaker 1: Was that not just the greatest episode we've ever done.
Speaker 1: I mean it's not even an episode. It's transcendent. It
Speaker 1: is literally the greatest moment in my life and probably
Speaker 1: in your measly life, Carolina. Right? Am I right? Texting manager?
Speaker 1: Or am I wrong? And if I'm wrong, I don't
Speaker 1: care because I know I'm right. I'm just waiting to
Speaker 1: see what's going on here. I don't know they're little
Speaker 1: cupids dancing above your head right now, Carolina, what an incredible,
Speaker 1: credible moment. I mean, I don't know if this was
Speaker 1: a dare or I'm texting with CIA's manager about what
Speaker 1: plans for our date. Look reminds Cia that I'm going
Speaker 1: to pick her up around eight and and ask her
Speaker 1: to pack enough clothes for a week, also to pack
Speaker 1: for tropical weather, but also for no I'm texting him
Speaker 1: to see if CEO was joking. I feel like maybe
Speaker 1: she was joking or it is a bet or something
Speaker 1: or what. I'm just wait, what is that text? I'm
Speaker 1: texting him right now. I'm just trying to see, well,
Speaker 1: what did he say? Did he right back? I'm I
Speaker 1: see him at Derek Off. Oh my god, this is real.
Speaker 1: Her manager just Texted's cio really likes Ron and it's
Speaker 1: excited to get to know him more. I'm so it
Speaker 1: just seems so unlikely. Okay, So that means I'm going
Speaker 1: to delete my Riot account. That means I'm getting serious.
Speaker 1: Listen as your friends, colleague, but continue as your colleague.
Speaker 1: I just want you to know that you should just
Speaker 1: play it cool. This is a really amazing woman. You
Speaker 1: don't want to blow it. Um, I know, Okay, you
Speaker 1: don't think I know. Wait do you think I'm going
Speaker 1: to blow it? What? Why are you trying to get
Speaker 1: me nervous? Or is this reverse psychology and you're you're
Speaker 1: trying to make me calm? Oh my god? Wait do
Speaker 1: I pronounce her name Saia or Sia? Now? I've forgotten. Okay,
Speaker 1: you'll be great. Oh gosh, Carolina, I pray I don't
Speaker 1: start as sweating. You know when I get the sweat
Speaker 1: mark in the down, the crack down, the crack of
Speaker 1: mine jeansine before the shocking. It's shocking because it's a
Speaker 1: major imprint out there. It looks like I sat in
Speaker 1: a puddle. Don't overthink it, but think of what you
Speaker 1: usually do, um and do something close to the opposite,
Speaker 1: the exact opposite of your normal behavior. So, okay, I
Speaker 1: usually go to a steakhouse. Since she's a vegan, exactly,
Speaker 1: you'll take her to it. To the zoo, not too close,
Speaker 1: actually far away. Listeners, you're on this romantic roller coaster
Speaker 1: with me. You're gonna want to strap in for this.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. The Ron Burgundy Podcast is a production
Speaker 1: of I Heart Radio. I'm Ron Burgundy. The host, writer
Speaker 1: and executive producer. Carolina Barlow is my co host, writer
Speaker 1: and producer. Our producer is Nick Stump. Our talent coordinator
Speaker 1: is annas Day. Writers are Andrew Steele and Jake Fogo
Speaker 1: mist this episode, Who's engineered, mixed and edited by Nick Stone.
Speaker 1: Until next time. This is Ron Berg and he got
Speaker 1: to keep it out, and it don't matter you are
Speaker 1: if I'm doing my job. It's Gors that wag because
Speaker 1: the whole brings U