1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 1: Who's that man joking in my ear? He's Ron Burgundy. 2 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: Good morning listeners, this is Tony fingle Sticks and you're 3 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: listening to the Wait. Sorry, I don't know why I 4 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: said that. That was a real brain fart. My name 5 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,479 Speaker 1: is Ron Burgundy. That's my name. I don't know what 6 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: happened there, And I'm here with a very special episode 7 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: of the Run Burgundy Podcast. Today we are sitting with 8 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: the pop sensation that is Saia. Okay, continue, no last 9 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 1: name like all the greats share Madonna, John h who 10 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: is John? I don't know that one. John Popper, lead 11 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: singer of Blues Traveler. You just say John. People know 12 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: who you're talking about it? Do people still listen to 13 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: Blues Traveler? Unfortunately? I'm joined today by my co host Carolina. Carolina, 14 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 1: do you even know who Sia is? And before you ask, 15 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 1: she didn't play Lilith Fair? Nick? Did you did you 16 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: hear what I just said? Of course I know who 17 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: she is. I've been listening to her for years now. 18 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: Her acoustic version of Elastic Heart really gotten through hard 19 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: time for me and my boyfriend of ten years. He 20 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: broke up with me crashing at some I've never heard 21 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: this before. Oh sorry, that's my Riah app I got 22 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: another match. I'll turn that off. Yes, for those of 23 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: you who don't know, I'm on Riah, which is a 24 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: dating app for only famous people. It's hard for us 25 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: to day in the real world, so we need a 26 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: secret online club to protect our privacy. Oh yeah, I 27 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: mean I'm a podcast personality. So I actually applied to 28 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: get on Riya. You have to fill out a little application. Really, 29 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: and um I was waitless. Oh well you were. That's 30 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: too bad, Carolina. I mean I absolutely had no idea 31 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 1: that would happen to you wait list. Okay, so sorry, 32 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: you know what, Have you met anyone on Ria? Yes? 33 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: I chadded with this woman, Marissa. We matched immediately. She's 34 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: an influencer, which is great because it essentially means she 35 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: does nothing lots of free time, but she also has 36 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,519 Speaker 1: money and endless time to meet up and try different 37 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: restaurants with a potential lover such as myself. And did 38 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 1: you end up going on a date with Marissa? No, 39 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: I didn't. Marissa ended up also matching with Derek Huff 40 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: from Dancing with the Stars. I wasn't upset when she 41 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 1: told me. After all, he has symmetrical features and a 42 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: dancers physique. I just told her, you hit the jackpot, honey, 43 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: get that guy to put a ring on it, if 44 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: you know what's good for you. Okay, So no more 45 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: riot dates. Then, well, some ladies message me, but I 46 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: swear give them an hour on that thing, And all 47 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 1: of a sudden they text me a picture of Derek Huff. 48 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: You'll think I'm lying, but I was cuckolded for Derek 49 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: Huff three separate times. They're all dating Derek Huff. They're 50 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: dancing with the stars. I don't know how he does it. 51 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 1: Are there four of them? Just one? Right? Well, he's 52 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: cleaning up and listen. I don't want some flashy romance. 53 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: I just I just want someone to get drunk with 54 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: on a Monday night while we dance to the Cornelius Brothers, 55 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: and then we could get in a drunken argument and 56 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: make up the next morning with empty promises. I hear you. Yeah, 57 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: some days, I just I just want someone to make 58 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: Baxter breakfast before I take him to music class. Yeah, 59 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: it's hard being all on your own, like I always say, 60 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: And another one bites the dust. But why can I 61 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: not conquer love? Those are Seals lyrics because the hook 62 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: brings you back. I ain't telling you no, lie, Okay, 63 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: and I think that Blues Traveler, well, I've got thick 64 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: skin and an elastic heart. We're don't see you again. 65 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: Suck it in, Suck it in, Suck it in if 66 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: you're in Tintin or Anne Blues Traveler. Okay, we're gonna 67 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: be right back with the Ron Burgundy Podcast after this message, 68 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: which sire, Oh my god. Okay, keep listening, Carolina. How 69 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: how excited are you for our guest today? I'm very 70 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: excited on the podcast. I'm gonna be honest, and you 71 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: know me very well. I'm not often starstruck. I mean 72 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 1: more often than not. I don't think you've ever seen me. 73 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: I did see you chase Princess Leo once down Hollywood Bull, 74 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: I did a sweaty six ft tall Princess Leiah. But yes, 75 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:57,919 Speaker 1: that was the only time I've seen you really freak out. Yeah, 76 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 1: but I mean this next, guys. I have been a 77 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 1: tremendous fan of her for a long time, and though 78 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 1: many of you know her as a bona fide pop's sensation, 79 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: her her story is not one of overnight success. It's 80 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: a It's a story of determination, survival, and undeniable talent. 81 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: As a songwriter and a solo artist, she creates music 82 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: that is somehow deeply personal and at the same time universal. 83 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: She's also a very private person, a star who shines 84 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: so bright that she shuns the spotlight. Yes, I wrote that. 85 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: Wow for her, it isn't necessary. She turns that spotlight 86 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: back on us, the audience, and makes us reflect what 87 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: is the concept of celebrity? What is art? What is music? 88 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: I consider it a gift that she's allowed us to 89 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 1: go deep with her today and remove the mask and 90 00:05:53,400 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: let us now swing from the true chandelier that is Siah. Oh, Hello, Siah, 91 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: How are you? Hello? Sia? I'm sorry? It is it 92 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: is me, um Hi, I'm great, good, wonderful. Commonly people 93 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: call me Sia. Also it works for me. No, You've 94 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 1: got to be kidding me. I've worked, I worked so 95 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: hard on that intro and I'm I'm a huge fan, 96 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: and it's it's Sia. I'm so embarrassed. I've actually never 97 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: seen you work, so I'm so embarrassed. I feel like 98 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 1: a boob. Oh brother, will you accept my apologies? Sia, 99 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: certainly will I'm a big fan of yours. Thank you. Wow. 100 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: But look, I'm not just saying these. These aren't just 101 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 1: platitudes that I'm making up. I'm a serious fan. I 102 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: go back to zero seven, before your first solo album 103 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: and night Only se Right, that's that's your I'm an 104 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: O G gosh, it's Cia. All this time, I've been 105 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: saying Sia. Oh, but you probably used to get that 106 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: years ago, right. I would prefer it because, um, pretty 107 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: much everyone everyone thinks they're the first person to make 108 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: the joke, say so you would actually welcome it if you, 109 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: you know, stepped into an auditorium of ten thousand screaming 110 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: fans and they were all going, sih yeah Si, yeah, yeah, 111 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: that would be lovely. That would be lovely. It would 112 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: be lovely. Wait, okay, I'm sorry, see you hold on once. 113 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: Something's going on here. This is a long, practical joke 114 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: that my friends and the crew here have been playing 115 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: on me for years. You have all been letting me 116 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: say Sia on purpose. Carolina, are you in on this? 117 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. You just know how much you love to 118 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: see and we thought it would be a funny prank. 119 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: How did you never see anyone say her name? How 120 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: did you never hear anyone say her name as Cia 121 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: for all these years? But no idea, it's weird. I 122 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: guess I would just so focused on see his music. 123 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: Normally i'd be furious at all of you, but this 124 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: is really funny. I wouldn't worry about it. I had 125 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: a lot of problems saying words when I was growing up, 126 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: you and me both. Yeah, I was like, uh, like 127 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: I didn't know how many nas Banana hadn't it could 128 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: go on forever? No, no, no, no, no no no, yeah, 129 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: it could go on. And then I also couldn't say elbow. 130 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: I couldn't say that el and the elbow. Um My 131 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 1: dad would say elbow and I'd say bow and would 132 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:56,319 Speaker 1: you would you draw it out like that? Yeah? Yeah, 133 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: and then you go nearly nearly I could. I couldn't 134 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: say uh, I couldn't say refrigerator. Well, I still have 135 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: trouble refrigerator, refrigerator, refrigerator. Yeah, so I just called it 136 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 1: a fridge. That's uncomfortable. Comfortable, Oh, uncomfortable imfortable. That's kind 137 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: of a door. And of course nuclear and for nuclear war, 138 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 1: which I was terribly afraid of as a child. Computer 139 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: I used to switch up put an R in their computer. 140 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go on the computer anyway. You guys have 141 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:37,319 Speaker 1: a lot in common. I guess we did. That's that's 142 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 1: not That's not the worst thing, isn't me and I 143 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: have a lot in common? Okay, I'll take it. Hey, 144 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: run are you single? Yes? I am? I certainly am. 145 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: Did your voice just drop? No? This is my normal. 146 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: But anyway, see, yes, I am currently single. How could 147 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: it be? Well, that's what I tell Carolina all the time. 148 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 1: She makes fun of me for being single, and I'm like, look, 149 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 1: this is strange, strange that I'm single. Yeah, I'm not. 150 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: I'm not. I wouldn't saying I I do a lot 151 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: of gallivanting around town. So you're not a virgine. Get 152 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: out of town you But no, no, no, no, no 153 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: face sor yeah, I'm starting to sweat. You got me? 154 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: Never let him see a sweat, that's what they that's 155 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: what they say in the news game. Never let him. Yes, 156 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: thank you, Bengo. Wow, this is a real banter. Um. 157 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: I mean, Carolina, you have to back me up on 158 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: this and no more jokes and this is the truth. 159 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: But I am. I can you tell see what a 160 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: die hard fan I am. Oh my god. I mean 161 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: Ron always says that the people who were first exposed 162 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: to see his music from the ending of six ft Under, 163 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 1: we're total posers. Thank you, thank you. See, I'm telling 164 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,839 Speaker 1: you I was there before breathe me not that, not 165 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: that I didn't cry my eyes out like the rest 166 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 1: of the world with that song at the end of 167 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: six ft under. Okay, no, no, we're not going to 168 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 1: go there. I'm gonna start crying just thinking about it 169 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: right now whenever he thinks about the marriage of your 170 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: song and the end of six ft under. Okay, Hey, 171 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: professional atmosphere, Okay, let me put myself together. Got this 172 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 1: interview is off to a terrible start. I feel like 173 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:02,719 Speaker 1: a total boob. I'm sorry. Eat, that's two times you've 174 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: said you feel like a boom. Isn't a bad thing. 175 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: Let me just try to try to correct myself, collect myself. Correct. 176 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: I gotta come correct like O g that you exactly exactly. 177 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: I want to go back to your work with Crisp. 178 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I always appreciate because I think we both 179 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: share a love of jazz fusion. Do you love jazz fusion? Well, 180 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: I certainly did. Then and I actually I have to say, 181 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: I still I still do you still enjoy some Yeah? 182 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: We called ourselves, um what was it? A hip hop 183 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 1: jazz fusion explosion. That's what we called ourselves at the time, 184 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:56,079 Speaker 1: hip hop pop jazz infusion fusion, yes, confusion, um yeah, 185 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: and that we yeah yeah. And he and our bass player, 186 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: he's to say, when things were cool, he would be 187 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:07,719 Speaker 1: like that, that is crisp. Okay, that's why. Yeah, that's 188 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: why we called ourselves crisp, because we wanted to be 189 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: cool in the eyes of our bass players. Oh. I 190 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: just assumed you enjoyed what we call over here potato chips. 191 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: Oh I don't. I don't not. You do not enjoy 192 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: a crisp It's true. I like those Hawaiian ones. I 193 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 1: don't know if I'm familiar with the Hawaiian ones. Hawaiian chips, 194 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: Hawaiian barbecue chips, like barbecue flavor. They're just Hawaiian chips. 195 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 1: They just, oh gosh, they're so yummy. I I'm actually 196 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 1: an animal rights activist. Everyone knows this, and it's something 197 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: you and I have in common. I like that. I 198 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: just want you to know I use only cruelty free 199 00:13:54,440 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: cologne I'm currently wearing is totally cruelty free. I'm really 200 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: proud of you. It was actually it was tested Tho 201 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: was tested on Mobi. He tests all my cologes for me. Yes, 202 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: I have him tests most good food. He's a good dude. 203 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: That movie he's certainly a good dude, and he's doing 204 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: everything he can with his celebrity to help them animals. 205 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: I know animal rights is a big part of your life. 206 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: Can we just speak on that for a moment, because 207 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: it's an issue, like I said, close to both of 208 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: our arts, except for kangaroos, they're just evil. But um, 209 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: but for for for many reasons, including environmental, Do we 210 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: do we need to look at more plant based diets? 211 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: Is that? Yes? For sure? The best one is impossible 212 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: Possible foods. Impossible burgers are the most delicious thing in 213 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: the world. I had one didn't almost just like exactly 214 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: like beef, and you couldn't even tell the difference. I 215 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: walked into my butcher and I just gave him the 216 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: middle for anger. So take that. I just impossible, and 217 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: he had no idea what to make of it. I 218 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: broke his glass case in his shop and just pummeled 219 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: him with a bunch of pork chops said, how dare 220 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: you This impossible burger blows you away? Good? I'm so glad. 221 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: I mean, not about the violence part, but just then 222 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: impossible burger part. I felt good about the violence. I 223 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: don't know, because I don't give it a lot of 224 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: fist fights. I only I although that I guess you're 225 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: really you fall under my rules for violence, which is 226 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: I would only want to punch someone or cook someone 227 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: who had hurt like a dog. So you guess. I 228 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: guess they've heard a lot of animals. Sometimes there's those 229 00:15:54,880 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: nippy dogs like you know, no, run, okay, you sure 230 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: you want to make a good impression like a lopso 231 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: aso or something like that, give a little backhand. No, no, 232 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: you do? You know you know what I say, run, 233 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: I say, if your dog does something wrong, roll the 234 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: newspaper up and hit yourself in the head with it, 235 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: because it's always your fault. Were the dogs doing wrong? Though? 236 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna say something totally different. I 237 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: thought you were gonna say, take a piece of newspaper 238 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: and go to the bathroom on it in the corner. 239 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well, I mean you can do a little 240 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: pe bad, little human p bad. M hmm. I tried 241 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: diapers once because I love watching television so much. Yeah, 242 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: every was that sensation. It was, well, here's exactly what happened, 243 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: is that I pay every thirty thirty seconds thirty minutes 244 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: um usually, and so I was really frustrated because I 245 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: was watching a lot of television, which I'm addicted to. 246 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: He was terrupting the flow. It was interrupting my television. 247 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: So I ordered some diapers on Amazon whilst lying down 248 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 1: watching television, and then they arrived and I put them 249 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: on and I and then I watched television until I 250 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: needed to pee. And then I tried to pee, and 251 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 1: I realized my body wouldn't let me pee clothes on, 252 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: lying down, It just wouldn't let me. And then so 253 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: then I stood up, and I was like, can I pee? Will? 254 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:26,959 Speaker 1: I can be in the shower? Why can't I pee? Now? 255 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: I couldn't be in the diaper standing up with clothes on. 256 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 1: So then I went to the toilet and I had 257 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: to sit on the toilet wearing the diaper, and then 258 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 1: I could pee, And then you finally could. It sounds 259 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 1: like you need to sue the manufacture of the diaper company. 260 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: It's weird, it's certainly. I have no idea what happened, 261 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: but it was not useful for me and my problem. 262 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: Ron had a previous girlfriend actually, who wore diapers for 263 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: a road trip. She's an astronaut. Oh yeah, this was 264 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: an act. She broke my heart and just letting you know. 265 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 1: The one day we met in a silver shop, really 266 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: the only good silver shop in San Diego. Fork it up, 267 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: I was. I was looking for an oyster fork for Baxter. Anyway, 268 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,360 Speaker 1: let's not talk about her. Um, I want to talk 269 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: about you. See can you, I mean, do you have look? 270 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: In addition to your brilliant solo career, you've written so 271 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: many songs for other artists. Can can you indulge us 272 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: in explain to our audience what a top line songwriter is? Yes? Um, well, 273 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: you know how when you listen to a song, there's 274 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: music and instruments, and then on top of that there's singing, 275 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 1: melodies and harmonies and words lyrics. Yeah. So, well, a 276 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 1: top line writer is the person in charge of the 277 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: melody and the singing and all of the harmonies parts 278 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 1: and the words. Yeah. Well, to me, it's the easy 279 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 1: bits and the words but to some people it's the 280 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: hard bits, like to me that it would be really 281 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: hard to be a producer, which is what the name 282 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: of the person who takes care of all the music is. 283 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Plus they're the shady people, aren't they? The producers. Well, 284 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: I managed to find a pretty good bunch on a whole, 285 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:32,199 Speaker 1: I'd say, yeah, okay, so on a whole. It's an 286 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: industry of sleeves balls. But you found a handful of 287 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: good ones. I did. I have found the good. Eat 288 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 1: so many, so many hits written by you, see a 289 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: fuller I mean Diamonds by Rihanna. You wrote that it's 290 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: so weird, shine bright like a diamond, Shine like a 291 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: diamond sing it. I obviously can't do it as well 292 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: as Rihanna. Yeah, she's pretty, she's amazing. I thought, well, 293 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: I actually thought me on that demo when they played 294 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: me finally her cut of the song, and I thought 295 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 1: they were pranking me because she had it was so 296 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 1: perfectly exactly the way that I had the demo that 297 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: I had sent over, and so that's what that was weird. 298 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: And then so I'm like, my Rihanna or is Rihanna 299 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 1: me sure? But I often have that same daydream. Is 300 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: there anything I can do vocally to make it make 301 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 1: my voice sound more like Rihanna? Yeah, you could bring 302 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: it up a little bit more into your nose, trying 303 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 1: to bring like a diamond. That's much better, but else 304 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: that's also sounds you really like one of the muppets. Well, 305 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,439 Speaker 1: I don't want to sound not also not a bad thing. 306 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:50,679 Speaker 1: I want to sound like Rihanna. He's like same, right, Diamon. 307 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: I guess it's in the throat and then the nose 308 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: face j Jame read like a diamond. It was closer 309 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 1: to something like sir uh, let's see shame right dying? Yeah, 310 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 1: okay it run, just push it out. You know you're 311 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: hearing footsteps, aren't you. Rihanna's exactly Look see, I don't 312 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,199 Speaker 1: want to embarrass you, but I'm just gonna list off 313 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 1: some of the artists that you've written songs for because 314 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: it's it's truly amazing. Okay, So here we go, Kelly Clarkson, Shakira, 315 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: pit Bull, Beyonce, Katie Perry, Brittney Spears, Maroon five, Maroon six, 316 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: Average White Band, Bo Donaldson, and Haywoods. I mean you 317 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: wrote their song Billy don't be a hero. Incredible, incredible, 318 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,199 Speaker 1: It's true. But my best work was The Wind Cries Mary, 319 00:21:55,760 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 1: The Wind crist Mary by Jimmie Hendriks And me, what 320 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: I mean, what is that like collaborating with an artist 321 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: as a songwriter. I mean, do you ever do you 322 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: ever have to say, hey, pit Bull, that lyric you 323 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: just wrote his crap? Fix it? Because you don't know. 324 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,360 Speaker 1: I would be intimidated to say that to pit Bull. Well, 325 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 1: I'll sometimes challenge somebody, depends on their their temperament, but 326 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: most of the time I'm just there to work for them, 327 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: and I um, I managed their stations and their egos, 328 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 1: and well, I turn off. I'm not seeing the pop 329 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: star when I work for somebody, I'm seeing the songwriters. 330 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 1: So they are above me. And so I think you're 331 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 1: too nice. I think you're being too nice. Thanks. But 332 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: I I think that's the reason I get to write 333 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: so many good, fun pop songs with so many people 334 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 1: is because I'm not a jerk. I know. I just 335 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: go in there and I'm like, at your service, sm'am 336 00:22:54,960 --> 00:23:00,239 Speaker 1: or at your service, sir, yes, And I say how 337 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 1: are you feeling? And we talked about the feelings, and 338 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 1: then we wrote a song about that. Usually what pull 339 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: feeling usually people it was I didn't make people until 340 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: after I'd already written that song, which was definitely not 341 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,959 Speaker 1: supposed to be me singing on it, because I am 342 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 1: certainly not shutting down any clubs once again. I would 343 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 1: be intimidated by pit bull. He was a good cuddler. 344 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: I met him just once afterwards, and they gave me 345 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 1: a big dog and it was a little beautiful. It's 346 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: good to know. It's something we don't know about old 347 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: pit bulls. He loves a good cuddle. He's a good cuddler, 348 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 1: you know. Truth be told. I dabbled around some songwriting myself. 349 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: I I'm embarrassed to say this, but I'm gonna say 350 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: it anyway. I co wrote the theme song to the 351 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 1: the old TV show Punky Brewster. Do you remember that show? 352 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 1: That was one of my favorite? Oh? Really? Yeah? Yeah? 353 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 1: Me and a guy named Gary Portnoy wrote that one together. Oh. 354 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 1: She was like one of my fashion icons. The other 355 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: was Whoopie Goldberg um, and then Eddie um uh it's 356 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:13,360 Speaker 1: the comedian Eddie Murphy. Yeah, Leddie Murphy. I didn't write 357 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: a song for him. They were my fashion icons. Well, 358 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 1: I askew with I went onto a fashion. The only 359 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: bomber is I didn't get credit for writing the Punky 360 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: Brewster theme. It's still in litigation, so I'm sorry. I 361 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: believe you. Oh okay, you cut it out, but maybe 362 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 1: you can help me as a character witness when it 363 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 1: does go to court. Well yeah, okay, okay done. I mean, 364 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: I've got a lot of free time. We'll send contracts 365 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: over to you. Back to your incredible career. So Shandelier 366 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: was obviously a huge breakthrough hit. Did you Did you 367 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 1: know when you were recording that song that it was 368 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: just going to be gigantic? I didn't. I recorded it 369 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: and then I sat down and I was like, oh, 370 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: I think this one. I like it too much to 371 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: give away. But then I was like, I was like nah, 372 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: and so I sent it over to Rihanna and then 373 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: Rihanna rejected it, and I was like, oh good, And 374 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 1: I felt because I had sellers remorse as soon as 375 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: I pressed send, So um I kept it, and I 376 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 1: was really pleased because sometimes I had to get like 377 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 1: I gave bird Set free went to a couple of 378 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: different people before, and I had sellers remorse every time 379 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 1: Rihanna an Adele, and then I had sellers remorse both times, 380 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: but then both times I got it back just because 381 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 1: that it didn't end up on their records, and I 382 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 1: was relieved. You don't back to chandelier. I think what 383 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: you really capture something, because people see chandeliers every day, 384 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: and there's not a day goes by where a person 385 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: doesn't see a chandelier, and if they're if they're lucky, 386 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: they own at least three of them, like I do. So, Carolina, 387 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 1: how many chandeliers do you own? I don't own a chandelier, 388 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: and I don't really see them every day. See, people 389 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 1: probably send you a free chandelier all the time. You 390 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: must be sick of having just chandeliers being sent to you, right. Actually, 391 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: the only person who ever sent me anything even resembling 392 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: a chandelier with Celine Dion. But it was more of 393 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:15,360 Speaker 1: an abstract work of art, and she made it herself 394 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:20,160 Speaker 1: and I love her. I love her too. She hasn't 395 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 1: sent her I love her three Yeah, I know she 396 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: has yet to send me anything. Well, whenever you're performing 397 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 1: in Vegas, just let her know, because that apparently that's 398 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 1: all I mean. I don't know if she makes presents 399 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: for everybody that comes through Vegas. But I couldn't believe 400 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: the presents, so that she sent me flowers and roses, 401 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 1: and she sent me a beautiful, weird esque sort of 402 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 1: lamp like a chandelier, but it had all bits and 403 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 1: Bob's like my past record artwork on it. Well, don't you, 404 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: I mean, don't you think? Chandelier is an aspirational song 405 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: and it says, Hey, world, one day, I'm I'm going 406 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 1: to be so effing rich. I can walk into a 407 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 1: chandelier store and go nuts and swing around like a 408 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: maniac and wreck the place and I'll pay for the 409 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 1: damages like it's nothing. Well, I mean, that's something I 410 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: related to in the song. I actually did that one. 411 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: You've heard, You've heard, You've heard the song, You've heard 412 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: completely destroyed a chandelier store? Have you heard the song run? 413 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 1: I think he's greatly misinterpreting the song. I just I 414 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 1: was just thinking you might have missed the point just 415 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:36,239 Speaker 1: a little bit. But it's also open to interpretation. I mean, 416 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: that's what's absolutely that's what's great. It is once I 417 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: put it out, it belongs to you. Well, seriously, though, 418 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: I do feel bad about the thousands of dollars in 419 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: damages I caused at the Chandelier store Inventura, and I'm 420 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 1: still making payments on that every month. But that was 421 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: the old run. That was like two months ago. I 422 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 1: you know, I want to talk about the way you 423 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 1: match your music to visuals, whether it's your stage shows 424 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: or the incredible music videos you've done with Maddie Ziegler. 425 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: Can we talk about her? What? What a discovery? Wow, 426 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: she's my little munchkin. She's my friend now still I 427 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: sort of, she's still like it, but she's not literally 428 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 1: a munchkin, is she? She's not. Actually, I just want 429 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: to make the listeners no, because it's about yes exactly. 430 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: Of course that was sorry. It was a real was 431 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: a real misleading statement I made there. But she's very 432 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: special to you, toll special. She's going to be eighteen 433 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: in September, and I met her when she was eleven, 434 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: and I love her very much as a daughter, and 435 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: um yeah, and sometimes I squeeze her really tight and 436 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: I say, am I smothering you? And she goes, no, 437 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: come closer, because I would be like, get off me, lady. Yeah, 438 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: I know I would be too, but you have a 439 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: special relationship. I guess that's that's to be snuggled. That's 440 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: wonderful to hear. Can I ask you this? Do you 441 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: see music visually? How does the melody? I don't have synesthesia, 442 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: but I do Um. I get out of the way 443 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 1: and then it just comes through. So I believe, like 444 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: whatever your higher power is or whatever you believe in, 445 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: I guess just comes like I sort of pop out 446 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: of the way and then I channel whatever that higher 447 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 1: power is. I I do not see music when I 448 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: close my eyes. No, I don't either, But my friend 449 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: Labyrinth does. He totally sees it. And that's called synesthesia 450 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: and is stead of disease. Well, it's not a disease, 451 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: as it's not treatable, but it's when two or more 452 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: sensations get together. So he only has a couple wants 453 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: to live. It's gonna be fine. Oh, he's fine, Okay, 454 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 1: it's fine. I sometimes see, well, I'll see little squiggly dots, 455 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: you know, when I close my eyes, and I'll give 456 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: them names like Fred or Steve or Cassandra. Are they 457 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: there for that long? Well, I don't know. I don't know. 458 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: I just told you that that's weird. I'm being weird, 459 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: not at all. I'm just a little nervous. It happens. 460 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: That's like the dumbest thing I've ever said. Okay, it's 461 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: just an aura. Probably, See how we live in this 462 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 1: culture of celebrity that can quite frankly, be very toxic. 463 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: And you navigated so well, what are your thoughts on celebrity? Yucky? Yes? Right, 464 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: pretty yucky? Yucky? Yep, so I just got just famous 465 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: enough to notice it was yucky before I um decided 466 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: to quickly put wigs on it, taking measures to counteract that. 467 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: Very very good on you. Yes, I swiftly realized fame 468 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: wasn't for me, and I realized that the only thing 469 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: missing in pop was mystery, So why not take up 470 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: that space? So smart, smart cookie, Let's see you telling 471 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: your Carolina. I know he see that little sound you 472 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: admitted you emitted, emitted, Emit shows signs of intelligence. It's true. 473 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:40,479 Speaker 1: A dolphin like a dolphin exactly. M m m hm. 474 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: Did you ever see Day of the Dolphin? Hello, Oh, 475 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, you're really good at that. Talk about 476 00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: a movie that will make me cry. Day the Dolphin? 477 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: That is that really a movie? It really is Okay, 478 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 1: I'm going to go see it as soon as look 479 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 1: it up, because you know, I woke up ten minutes 480 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: before this interview, and then I spilled coffee on my pants, 481 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: and then I realized the dog had showed my shoelace, 482 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: so I had to find a spare shoelace, and I 483 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: thread my shoelace on the way here to the studio 484 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: and got my shoe on just in time, and then 485 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 1: walked in just on time to be in conversation with 486 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 1: you here, um and um. Now, as soon as we're finished, 487 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 1: I'll be going to get back into bed to watch 488 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: because I have a projector that projects onto my ceiling. 489 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,479 Speaker 1: And you're going to pop in Day of the Dolphin 490 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: YEP with George C. Scott. Sure see. I I asked 491 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: this a lot of guests, But how do you deal 492 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: with the haters? You know? I just don't go on 493 00:32:54,520 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: any social media, so I have my managers they manage 494 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 1: my social media, and occasionally I have Twitter on my 495 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 1: phone so I can say something if I want to, 496 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: But then I actually have the self will to not 497 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 1: go back on and look at anything that they say 498 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: back unless I know it's going to be a nice 499 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: conversation like I just said, hey, I love you. What 500 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: are you guys watching purs usage? Because you don't need 501 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: that bull crap. No, it was part of why again 502 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 1: another reason I just thought, oh, I don't like being 503 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 1: famous at all. Because there was a period where they 504 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: were like die, goldfish die, and I was like, I 505 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 1: look like a goldfish. Well I don't think. It was 506 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: like thank you, and then I'll like die, horse face die. 507 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: I was like, do I look like a horse of 508 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: a horse face? And yeah, horses are beautiful creatures. Well 509 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 1: I think so too, But at the time I just 510 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: felt a little shocking because I thought I had a 511 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 1: human face, and so I was made me feel really 512 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 1: uncomfortable and sad and insecure. Um yeah, and then so 513 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 1: the when I got off it Twitter, Yeah, well I'm 514 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,800 Speaker 1: still on it. I'm still getting pummeled. Actually asks people 515 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 1: what they think about how he works all the time, 516 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 1: because eventually someone will say something nice. I like to away, 517 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:26,359 Speaker 1: your eyes are so little that my eyes are so little? Yeah, 518 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 1: and that's so little. I wish. I wish I hadn't 519 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: heard that before, but I've heard I heard a lot 520 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 1: of little beady eyes like a rat. They call me 521 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 1: rat face. That's the animal I get a lot. I 522 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 1: love them. They're beautiful. It's because I think the uniqueness 523 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:53,800 Speaker 1: is beautiful and they're uniquely little. You don't see it. Gosh, 524 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 1: forgive me if this is totally inappropriate. Whatever you're gonna say, 525 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:04,399 Speaker 1: this is totally inappropriate, Carolina, Relax. I am not going 526 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: to do anything inappropriate. I just have to admit that 527 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 1: the whole time during this interview, I've been sensing a 528 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:15,360 Speaker 1: vibe and I'd be kicking myself if I didn't go 529 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 1: for this moment. Just don't see you. I would I 530 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 1: would like to ask you out for a romantic dinner. Well, 531 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 1: I would love to come because although I am very 532 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 1: busy watching television in my diaper um most of the time, 533 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: which I so far, so good. I actually my adopted son, 534 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 1: he's turned eighteen and you know, so he's out there 535 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 1: in the world, and I do have time. I have 536 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 1: made time. I have my time for love. So you 537 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 1: would got totally go on a date with you. Totally, 538 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 1: by the way, so you do not have to do this. 539 00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 1: This is yeah, and thanks no, but truly I am 540 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 1: interested in uh yeah, I'm interested in that idea that 541 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 1: is wonderful. That's just absolutely what you are. Beautiful. See 542 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 1: a fuller and I know a wonderful vegan restaurant. It's intimate, 543 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 1: and we'll go and we won't talk about the biz. 544 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 1: We'll just get to know each other and I swear 545 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 1: I'll be a total gentleman. Okay, I'm sure you will run. 546 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 1: I can't believe this is happening. This, this is amazing. Um. 547 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 1: So there you have it. Will we will make arrangements 548 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: for this date Sea, Yeah, I'll probably pick you up. 549 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 1: Does eight pm work? Yeah? Okay, that gives me enough 550 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 1: time to watch the Dolphin movie before perfect. We'll have 551 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 1: something to talk about. That's great exactly until you won't 552 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,800 Speaker 1: have to worry and I won't have to worry about 553 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 1: what we're going to talk about. I will be pulling 554 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 1: up in my beige Catalina and I don't know what 555 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:03,800 Speaker 1: that is. I'll good before it's a very very highly 556 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 1: sought after muscle car from the from the mid seventies. 557 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 1: Sounds great, I see I. I just can't thank you 558 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 1: enough for joining us today and it's just been extraordinary. Caroline. 559 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 1: Do you mind writing down my my phone number for 560 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 1: see you there? Sure? It's one eight hundred. It's an 561 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 1: eight hundred number. Yeah, I'll get it to your manager. 562 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 1: That's the beginning of the suicide hotline. Um, people, it's 563 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,759 Speaker 1: it's not it's one number off. Trust me, it's one 564 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 1: number off. Alright. Um. He feels a lot of hard calls. 565 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 1: So see I I'll I'll see you in a in 566 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 1: about six or seven hours. That sound good? Yay, okay, right, 567 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 1: and I'm going to shine bright like a diamond for you. Yes, 568 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:04,799 Speaker 1: I'm right, like like a naming. That's right. That's um, 569 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 1: see a fuller. We can't thank you enough for being 570 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 1: on the podcast, and I can't thank you enough for 571 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 1: what this adventure may lead to. Um. One more just 572 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 1: slightly heartbreaking thing for you, probably is that actually see 573 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 1: a furler. Oh my god. But don't worry because I 574 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 1: don't care further. I'm sorry. Look, if you don't, if 575 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 1: you don't want to have this date, I understand now 576 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,319 Speaker 1: because I've blown your first name in your last name, 577 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 1: and because guess what, I have my friends call me 578 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: something entirely different, both of those things. So the dates 579 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 1: still on. It's still on. She called it a date. 580 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 1: It's a date, Carolina, I have a date. It's unambiguously 581 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 1: a date, Fler. Okay, so what do we do now? 582 00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,800 Speaker 1: Is anyone known? Do we think we will a commercial? 583 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:06,839 Speaker 1: Do we do? Okay? This is Ron Burgundy and I'm 584 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 1: going on a date with c So everyone else can 585 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:13,279 Speaker 1: suck my fat one. Okay, we'll be right back on 586 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:30,360 Speaker 1: the Ron Burgundy podcast. That's okay, And we are back 587 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 1: with the Ron Burgundy Podcast. And oh my god, today's episode. 588 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 1: Was that not just the greatest episode we've ever done. 589 00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,239 Speaker 1: I mean it's not even an episode. It's transcendent. It 590 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 1: is literally the greatest moment in my life and probably 591 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:55,880 Speaker 1: in your measly life, Carolina. Right? Am I right? Texting manager? 592 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 1: Or am I wrong? And if I'm wrong, I don't 593 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,840 Speaker 1: care because I know I'm right. I'm just waiting to 594 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 1: see what's going on here. I don't know they're little 595 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:10,440 Speaker 1: cupids dancing above your head right now, Carolina, what an incredible, 596 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 1: credible moment. I mean, I don't know if this was 597 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 1: a dare or I'm texting with CIA's manager about what 598 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 1: plans for our date. Look reminds Cia that I'm going 599 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,880 Speaker 1: to pick her up around eight and and ask her 600 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,759 Speaker 1: to pack enough clothes for a week, also to pack 601 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 1: for tropical weather, but also for no I'm texting him 602 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,919 Speaker 1: to see if CEO was joking. I feel like maybe 603 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,640 Speaker 1: she was joking or it is a bet or something 604 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 1: or what. I'm just wait, what is that text? I'm 605 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 1: texting him right now. I'm just trying to see, well, 606 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 1: what did he say? Did he right back? I'm I 607 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:51,279 Speaker 1: see him at Derek Off. Oh my god, this is real. 608 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:56,920 Speaker 1: Her manager just Texted's cio really likes Ron and it's 609 00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,040 Speaker 1: excited to get to know him more. I'm so it 610 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 1: just seems so unlikely. Okay, So that means I'm going 611 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,440 Speaker 1: to delete my Riot account. That means I'm getting serious. 612 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 1: Listen as your friends, colleague, but continue as your colleague. 613 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,719 Speaker 1: I just want you to know that you should just 614 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 1: play it cool. This is a really amazing woman. You 615 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:21,400 Speaker 1: don't want to blow it. Um, I know, Okay, you 616 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 1: don't think I know. Wait do you think I'm going 617 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 1: to blow it? What? Why are you trying to get 618 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:30,480 Speaker 1: me nervous? Or is this reverse psychology and you're you're 619 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,440 Speaker 1: trying to make me calm? Oh my god? Wait do 620 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 1: I pronounce her name Saia or Sia? Now? I've forgotten. Okay, 621 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 1: you'll be great. Oh gosh, Carolina, I pray I don't 622 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 1: start as sweating. You know when I get the sweat 623 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 1: mark in the down, the crack down, the crack of 624 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:56,840 Speaker 1: mine jeansine before the shocking. It's shocking because it's a 625 00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,320 Speaker 1: major imprint out there. It looks like I sat in 626 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,759 Speaker 1: a puddle. Don't overthink it, but think of what you 627 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 1: usually do, um and do something close to the opposite, 628 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 1: the exact opposite of your normal behavior. So, okay, I 629 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:16,279 Speaker 1: usually go to a steakhouse. Since she's a vegan, exactly, 630 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:20,879 Speaker 1: you'll take her to it. To the zoo, not too close, 631 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 1: actually far away. Listeners, you're on this romantic roller coaster 632 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,440 Speaker 1: with me. You're gonna want to strap in for this. 633 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:36,800 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. The Ron Burgundy Podcast is a production 634 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 1: of I Heart Radio. I'm Ron Burgundy. The host, writer 635 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 1: and executive producer. Carolina Barlow is my co host, writer 636 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:49,719 Speaker 1: and producer. Our producer is Nick Stump. Our talent coordinator 637 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:54,080 Speaker 1: is annas Day. Writers are Andrew Steele and Jake Fogo 638 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:58,400 Speaker 1: mist this episode, Who's engineered, mixed and edited by Nick Stone. 639 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,440 Speaker 1: Until next time. This is Ron Berg and he got 640 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:09,439 Speaker 1: to keep it out, and it don't matter you are 641 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:17,480 Speaker 1: if I'm doing my job. It's Gors that wag because 642 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,160 Speaker 1: the whole brings U