WEBVTT - The Viral Effect: Balancing the Pros and Cons of Going Viral

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the welcome, guys, what's going on?

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<v Speaker 1>everyone maybe if you.

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<v Speaker 2>Just want to see you get to know a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit about me more. Except dolo chie may I always

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<v Speaker 2>say the same thing. Have you seen an achievement gossip?

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<v Speaker 1>He says, She say, don't believe it all. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>going through so much.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know what, whenever I have the opportunity of

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<v Speaker 2>connecting with you guys and just talking to you, inventing

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, talking about my experiences or the things

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<v Speaker 2>that are going on in the world, I feel so

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<v Speaker 2>much better.

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<v Speaker 1>And today we're talking about people that.

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<v Speaker 2>Are getting caught on tape or behaving like an ass.

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<v Speaker 1>And everybody's just applauding it like it's all good.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyday racism and bullying can now be recorded and if

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<v Speaker 2>you're acting out, you know, automatically, you go viral.

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<v Speaker 1>The more you act like you have no set, the

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<v Speaker 1>more popular you become. And not only because of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you may.

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<v Speaker 2>Be doing tiktoks and while it out and doing dumb things.

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<v Speaker 2>But then we had these videos of the Karen videos

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<v Speaker 2>online as well. There's so many things going on right

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<v Speaker 2>now in society and how social media is not making

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<v Speaker 2>people famous or basically doing nothing of importance in life,

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<v Speaker 2>nothing of value to society realistically, and we're just applauding it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I wanted to bring my special guest, who

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<v Speaker 2>I've grown to love him, because our energy is just matched.

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<v Speaker 2>He understands me. We're in the same frequency. He's an

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<v Speaker 2>amazing spirit. And I have today on the show Kelvin

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<v Speaker 2>Davis memoricalsas how you been.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been great? How have you been?

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<v Speaker 2>So? If I've been like beyoncet to, let me tell

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<v Speaker 2>you it is tough out here in these streets. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just gonna give a little quick something about what happened

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<v Speaker 2>to me yesterday. I was on a private jet. I

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't find a flight home. It was a whole bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of you know, famous artists all together. It was a

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<v Speaker 2>really small jet. There was really bad turbulence. The luggages

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<v Speaker 2>moved from one side to the other street like in

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<v Speaker 2>the movies. I hit myself in the head. It was crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>I was praying to God just to make it home safe,

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<v Speaker 2>because you never know what can happen. And we've seen

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<v Speaker 2>so many terrible situations happen to not just artists, but

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<v Speaker 2>just you know, to people. Overall, God has our back,

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<v Speaker 2>but sometimes going on, he makes us, you know, he

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<v Speaker 2>makes us go through little turbulence, and I felt it yesterday. Anyways,

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<v Speaker 2>I see life with a different perspective today. It was

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<v Speaker 2>a lot, but maybe you have a lighter story. How

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<v Speaker 2>how have your days been?

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<v Speaker 4>Both of my daughters in the school on Friday to

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<v Speaker 4>go see The Little Mermaid.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I've heard everybody talking about Little Mermaid? How was it?

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<v Speaker 3>It was so good?

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<v Speaker 4>It exceeded all my explain chasings. It was truly amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>They meant to that, It meant to that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I can't wait till my girls are old enough

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<v Speaker 2>to see and understand, you know, a Little Mermaid. Right now,

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<v Speaker 2>they're too little for that, so all they probably wan

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<v Speaker 2>I'm getting it. Yeah, today we have a really good

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<v Speaker 2>show because we're going to talk about something that's really

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<v Speaker 2>happening in society right now, and it's just learning how

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<v Speaker 2>to manage it and deal with it. And I'll say

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<v Speaker 2>as far as everybody wanting to have a viral moment,

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<v Speaker 2>having the validation of society of the people that are

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<v Speaker 2>following you, or whatever the hell it may be, has

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<v Speaker 2>made people go crazy. Has made people do these little

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<v Speaker 2>TikTok dances, which is cool if you're on your phone

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<v Speaker 2>dancing all day trying to get it together so someone

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<v Speaker 2>can give you a like, I get it, or you're

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<v Speaker 2>just doing it for fun, that's cool too. But we've

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<v Speaker 2>gone from the dancing tiktoks to the TikTok challenges where

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<v Speaker 2>you have to like choke yourself or drink bleach or

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<v Speaker 2>you know, throw yourself off a bridge and look and

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<v Speaker 2>see if you survive, and like all types of craziness. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>we have so many things going on right now that

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<v Speaker 2>I just thought it would be such an important moment

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<v Speaker 2>to discuss this with you.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think for me, it's like you're chasing

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<v Speaker 3>to go viral.

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<v Speaker 4>At the same time, when you go viral, there's a

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<v Speaker 4>hot chance that.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the only thing that will happen.

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<v Speaker 4>Because once someone goes viral on the internet, unless it's

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<v Speaker 4>something that goes along with their content that they do

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<v Speaker 4>all at the time like that one viral video does

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<v Speaker 4>not make them a content creator creator, right right, They're

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<v Speaker 4>still just like the average person with one viral video.

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<v Speaker 4>That's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you know what's crazy is that we make them

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<v Speaker 2>go viral because if they don't have our support, they

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<v Speaker 2>don't go anywhere. So if that also puts in context

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that there's people out here who bother to

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<v Speaker 2>go to college study, you know, they bust their ass,

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<v Speaker 2>they do all these things and don't even get one

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<v Speaker 2>third of the money that these influencers are. These people

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<v Speaker 2>that go viral, make and create, So that makes it

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<v Speaker 2>really hard on society overall, and it makes people think

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<v Speaker 2>that going viral is the way to go. If I

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<v Speaker 2>go viral, I can become famous. If I become famous,

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<v Speaker 2>I can make money. If I make money, I never

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<v Speaker 2>have to work. And boom, I just in my life

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<v Speaker 2>off some stupidity and some of these viral moments can

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<v Speaker 2>also lead to your death. Limited there's so many layers

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<v Speaker 2>into this. Honestly, Kevin tell me this. People have always

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<v Speaker 2>behaved badly, but now we have the power to record

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<v Speaker 2>them on our phones. Do you think that it scares

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<v Speaker 2>people from doing it or saying racist things, or it

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<v Speaker 2>just makes him feel like I just don't care and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to say what it want and maybe this

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<v Speaker 2>will be made viral.

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<v Speaker 3>Moment depending on what state and city you're in.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like, if you're in Alabama and there's like

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<v Speaker 4>a racist moment and it goes viral, I feel like

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<v Speaker 4>people are like, well, you know, that's Alabama. But I

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<v Speaker 4>feel like it depends on where you are. Like, there

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<v Speaker 4>was a situation that happened in New York recently where

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<v Speaker 4>there was like a group of black kids trying to

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<v Speaker 4>get like a bike, and this white woman was trying

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<v Speaker 4>to steal the bike await, even though he y for it,

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<v Speaker 4>and she started crying and doing all this stuff. So

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<v Speaker 4>to me, I was like, watching the video, I'm like, bro,

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<v Speaker 4>this woman is literally turning on the white privilege tears,

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<v Speaker 4>acting like this man is like trying to harm her

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<v Speaker 4>and she and he purchased the bike, and then you

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<v Speaker 4>have these people that come from the outside to her

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<v Speaker 4>aid because she's crying. So I'm glad that got on

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<v Speaker 4>video because for me, it's like she didn't have to

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<v Speaker 4>say anything to be racist. Her actions showed that she

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<v Speaker 4>was racist because she was just trying to be trying

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<v Speaker 4>to make this situation seem as though it was these

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<v Speaker 4>four or five black boys that were harming her by

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<v Speaker 4>screaming and crying all these things that all these white

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<v Speaker 4>men come.

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<v Speaker 3>To her aid.

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<v Speaker 4>So for me, it's like, sometimes it could work, and sometimes,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, it doesn't really help, Like people are going

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<v Speaker 4>to act a fucking fool anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>But does it?

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<v Speaker 2>Does it really matter to be able to get it

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<v Speaker 2>in recording when someone is being racist, Like, I'm glad

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<v Speaker 2>they were able to record it, and I'm glad they

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<v Speaker 2>were able to have this on evidence.

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<v Speaker 1>But even when you have situations like George.

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<v Speaker 2>Floyd where we can all, oh, yeah, what the hell

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<v Speaker 2>was going on? You know, we've seen so many cases

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<v Speaker 2>where we have the video, we have the evidence from

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<v Speaker 2>the beginning to the end, we have it on tape,

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<v Speaker 2>we have it on your phone, we have it on cameras,

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<v Speaker 2>we have whatever, and sometimes you can't even use it

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<v Speaker 2>as evidence because they'll still say that's not true, that's

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<v Speaker 2>not what happened, this is not it was. So to

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<v Speaker 2>a certain extent, yes, it's good that we're able to

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<v Speaker 2>record these situations, it just sucks and not in all

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<v Speaker 2>occasions people actually validating care for what they see as

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<v Speaker 2>the truth, you know, So that really sucks because and

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<v Speaker 2>like I said, we saw the George Floyd situation.

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<v Speaker 1>If it wasn't because of all the phones, nobody would

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<v Speaker 1>have known.

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<v Speaker 2>And just like him, there's so many black people, there's

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<v Speaker 2>so many immigrants, there's so many people who have suffered

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<v Speaker 2>injustice from police brutality, and at least, you know, being

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<v Speaker 2>able to record it allows us to see what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I said, sometimes we don't get justice fum.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean sometimes we don't get justice.

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<v Speaker 1>For it, yeah for sure.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm like white American, like the majority of society

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<v Speaker 4>paces this image of well, you know, if you just

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<v Speaker 4>would have did what the cops said, then that wouldn't

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<v Speaker 4>have happened.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's like that's not the way this.

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<v Speaker 1>Writes, right exactly, Like.

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<v Speaker 4>How many like how many white boys, how many white

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<v Speaker 4>girls have like done the same thing and getting to

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<v Speaker 4>go home at the end of the day, and even

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<v Speaker 4>like the whole bad Batti thing, Like I have a

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<v Speaker 4>hot take on that, because I have a hot take

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<v Speaker 4>on all those like all those white girls that go

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<v Speaker 4>viral for their bad behavior and all this the stuff,

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<v Speaker 4>and I say it, and I'll say it until the

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<v Speaker 4>day that I die. If Bad Battie was black, she

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<v Speaker 4>would not be vial read, she would not be hanging

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<v Speaker 4>out with celebrities.

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<v Speaker 1>She would not be a.

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<v Speaker 2>Moment because at the same time, okay, so wait, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think she would have made as much money then

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<v Speaker 2>you happen.

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<v Speaker 1>And I love her. I love her. She's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I can't say she's my friend friend, but

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<v Speaker 1>I know her.

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<v Speaker 2>We've spent time together, we've worked together, we're in the

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<v Speaker 2>same show, in the same franchise. But we have a

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<v Speaker 2>perfect example. We have, for example, Suki. You know Suki

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<v Speaker 2>with the good Kuchi. I don't know if you know her. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>she's also gone viral. I think she's an amazing talent.

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<v Speaker 2>I wish that people got to know her and see

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<v Speaker 2>her in real life away from the you know, persona

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<v Speaker 2>that she shows to the world. But she's another one

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<v Speaker 2>you know that's very similar to she She's an artist,

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<v Speaker 2>she has only fans, she has a big personality. She

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<v Speaker 2>is just herself, unapologeticy herself, and she also is very similar.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like the race thing does influence but not

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily in all cases. I just think that people overall

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<v Speaker 2>like certain behaviors, maybe not for themselves, but they enjoy

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<v Speaker 2>watching other people at a certain type of way.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'll ask you this.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you ever gone through a racist moment, a racist

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<v Speaker 2>situation that you wish you could have had your phone to

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<v Speaker 2>record it, or any type of moment you're like, damn,

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<v Speaker 2>why didn't I have my phone here for this?

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<v Speaker 4>Unfortunately I had an ex mother in law who was

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<v Speaker 4>pretty racist, Like.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 4>So there were many moments where I wish I would

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<v Speaker 4>have recorded certain things that she said and recorded certain

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<v Speaker 4>things that she did, just so you know, I could

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<v Speaker 4>play it back for just even so like like why

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<v Speaker 4>would you say this? Like why would you do this?

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<v Speaker 4>Even if like even if you don't you know like

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<v Speaker 4>like me marry your daughter? Like why would you say

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<v Speaker 4>this stuff about me being black?

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<v Speaker 2>And then break it down? Break it down stuff about

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<v Speaker 2>you being black? How gonna get worded? Yes, but she's

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<v Speaker 2>sick achievement. We want to know.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like there were more like microaggressions.

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<v Speaker 4>So we used to go down to her beach house

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<v Speaker 4>in Venice, Florida, and we used to like hang out

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<v Speaker 4>with me and the kids stuff. And both of my

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<v Speaker 4>kids are mixed, but obviously they look black, and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I'll be outside playing with them, and she would say

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<v Speaker 4>things like children, don't you think you don't need to

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<v Speaker 4>be outside in the sun, Like, don't you think you're

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<v Speaker 4>black enough? Do you want to get darker? I said,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not going out in the sun for the same

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<v Speaker 4>reasons that you do. You go out in the sun

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<v Speaker 4>to get darker, to get a tear, And I'm going

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<v Speaker 4>on the sun to play with my kids, right like microaggressive,

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<v Speaker 4>And you know it would happen continuously, like even when

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<v Speaker 4>our first daughter was born, we were putting stuff on

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<v Speaker 4>the baby registry and she looked me dead in my

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<v Speaker 4>black face and said, I'm going to get this blue

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<v Speaker 4>dress to match her blonde hair and blue eyes. And

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<v Speaker 4>I'm looking at her like, they're going to get this

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<v Speaker 4>blue dress to mess the blond hair and blue eyes

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<v Speaker 4>up the baby that me and your daughter are going

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<v Speaker 4>to have. She's like, yeah, because she's going to have

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<v Speaker 4>blond hair and blue ass. I said, you do realize

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<v Speaker 4>that you're insinuating that you hope that I'm not the father,

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<v Speaker 4>because it's very unlikely that I will produce a kid

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<v Speaker 4>that has blond hair and blue eyes.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, come on it, but yeah, I know. But

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, you know, that's kind of like, that's

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<v Speaker 3>not right. And she was like, I didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean it, Yes, that hell you did? You know you

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<v Speaker 1>meant it?

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<v Speaker 3>Girl back exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know what, that.

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<v Speaker 2>Really sucks because I love the word microaggression because there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people they do that and consider themselves

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<v Speaker 2>not to be racist, which they are, but they feel

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<v Speaker 2>that if I.

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<v Speaker 1>Do it in a nice way and just throw my little.

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<v Speaker 2>Bit in or my little jabs, they won't notice it

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<v Speaker 2>as much or they won't take it as badly. But

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<v Speaker 2>I still said what I felt, So that's messed up.

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<v Speaker 2>There's been so many occasions I wish I wish I

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<v Speaker 2>would have had a phone. I wish somebody would have

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<v Speaker 2>been recording me, Like record this moment. Let this moment

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<v Speaker 2>go viral. Let this moment go viral, because a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people showcase to the world like I'm so nice,

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<v Speaker 2>I would never I'm not racist, I'm not this I

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<v Speaker 2>hate him just to it, But then in their privacy,

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<v Speaker 2>when they feel that nobody's watching, they really make dirty

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<v Speaker 2>as common and they're really theirselves. I've heard people call

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<v Speaker 2>me mona, you know, you know, calling me monkey. But

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<v Speaker 2>in many occasions, you know, they'll they'll say, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't wash your hair because you know you have

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<v Speaker 2>a you know, I have an afro, and my afro

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<v Speaker 2>is supposed to be nappy, bad hair, this and that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. And I've said in many occasions or for

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<v Speaker 2>being black and read pretty so basically by black people

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<v Speaker 2>are ugly.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard so many different things like there, I've heard

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<v Speaker 2>so many things. I've heard the whole thing too about

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<v Speaker 2>being in the in the sun. I've already heard so

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<v Speaker 2>many races as comments. And I wish that we had

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<v Speaker 2>a phone we could record it the same energy that

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<v Speaker 2>we put to the Karens.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, sometimes it's not just.

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<v Speaker 2>The Karens, because I feel like Karens just mean when

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<v Speaker 2>they're Caucasian, right, But we have Karens that are Latinos,

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<v Speaker 2>we have Karens that are Asians, we have Karens that

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<v Speaker 2>are from different parts of the world, and even amongst

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<v Speaker 2>our own people, we can be racist there.

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<v Speaker 1>We got some Karens within our own people as well.

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<v Speaker 2>I really wish that we had moments where we can

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<v Speaker 2>record it and give that same energy we give to

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<v Speaker 2>them to our own people and you know, make them

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<v Speaker 2>accountable for the comments and the things that.

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<v Speaker 1>They do, because if we don't, then this is just

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a.

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<v Speaker 2>Pattern that is going to continue on and on and

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<v Speaker 2>our generation is only but going to get worse.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just like these moments where it's like I feel

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<v Speaker 4>like a lot a lot of society ADULTI files black

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<v Speaker 4>kids like they look at like a fourteen year old

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<v Speaker 4>black boy, and they like look look at him as any.

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<v Speaker 2>And also as a threat. It's already yeah, yeah, you

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<v Speaker 2>know your you're a threat. And I was just talking

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<v Speaker 2>about it the other day of how as a parent

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<v Speaker 2>when you have dark skinned children, the darker the more

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<v Speaker 2>as a parent you have to be worried and concerned

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<v Speaker 2>when your child, you know, leaves your household because the

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<v Speaker 2>darker your skin is, the more people see you as

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<v Speaker 2>a threat.

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<v Speaker 1>Whenever a black person does something.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you know, the terror that this is, the danger,

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<v Speaker 2>the thug that this. But when when a copy heaven

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<v Speaker 2>does it all he's going.

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<v Speaker 1>Through depression, Hey, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know all these things he needs there. But if it's

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<v Speaker 2>a black person, a black person will go to jail

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<v Speaker 2>for life for someone that a white person will go

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<v Speaker 2>to jail for a month.

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<v Speaker 1>If that are too so, of course, you know that

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<v Speaker 1>black people at this.

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<v Speaker 2>Point and black people, immigrants, minority overall, are tired, are sick,

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<v Speaker 2>are frustrated, are just over it.

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<v Speaker 1>So yes, I get that part.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was talking about how when you raise a

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<v Speaker 2>dark skinned child, you have to raise them differently.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to raise them knowing you are different. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>when the cop.

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<v Speaker 2>Comes, put your hands up, you know, don't look into

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<v Speaker 2>nobody's eyes. If you have a hoodie off, take it off,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, don't put your hands in your pocket. There's

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<v Speaker 2>these whole list of rules and regulations that people of

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<v Speaker 2>Connor have to do and live by then no other

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<v Speaker 2>race has to do, you know, and it's just so

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<v Speaker 2>much pressure. It is so unfair. It is well, it's

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<v Speaker 2>it really is hurtful. It's it's crazy to mean people have.

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<v Speaker 4>Other racers have to worry about if they get pulled over,

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<v Speaker 4>will it be their last time?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, me, personally, I'm really scared of the police. I've

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<v Speaker 2>always been open about it, and I'm scared because of

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<v Speaker 2>just you know, the first thing that they see is

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<v Speaker 2>gonna see.

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna see color. They're not gonna be like.

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<v Speaker 2>She's one of us or whatever or whatever, and shouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>even be like that in the first place.

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<v Speaker 1>But the first thing they're gonna see is color.

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<v Speaker 2>So whenever a cop gets behind me while I'm driving,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm automatically panicking.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm automatically bubble guts. You're like nervous, Yeah, I get nervous.

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<v Speaker 1>It really sucks.

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<v Speaker 2>It is that way, and that even brings me to

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<v Speaker 2>think that now it is so important to even have

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<v Speaker 2>cameras inside of your car to record and film.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm even thinking, but I should probably.

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<v Speaker 2>Go to Amazon and buy middle cameras, buy a camera,

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<v Speaker 2>put it in your car, because you just never know

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<v Speaker 2>when it's gonna be your day.

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<v Speaker 1>Anything can happen at any moment, and we.

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<v Speaker 2>Live in a world where we have to protect ourselves

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<v Speaker 2>so much consistently, even while you're in your car, Like

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<v Speaker 2>it's really crazy. Now, let's also talk about this, right

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<v Speaker 2>because since we're talking about viral moments and how we're

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<v Speaker 2>making people famous off viral moments, we're also making justice

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<v Speaker 2>and protecting ourselves with these cameras by recording the things

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<v Speaker 2>that happen in our society. Some of the people that

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<v Speaker 2>have gone viral after being caught up on tape for

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<v Speaker 2>behaving badly have also been fired from their jobs.

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<v Speaker 1>I just feel about that.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel good about it.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I honestly feel like people that do it

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<v Speaker 4>and get caught on camera, well, I'll think that people

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<v Speaker 4>that do it, they get caught on camera, I feel

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<v Speaker 4>like they've done it in the past.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not the first time. Okay, it's not the first time.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's like when it gets caught on camera, it

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<v Speaker 4>gives me the evidence and the pre consumption that you've

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<v Speaker 4>done this somewhere before. It's sex an example, and like

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<v Speaker 4>in practice, we get people are second chance. It's a

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<v Speaker 4>second opportunity.

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't matter, like because let's say, it doesn't all have

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<v Speaker 2>to be for being bad. I know of a person

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<v Speaker 2>called Ali Bray who now is well known for doing

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<v Speaker 2>only fans, who makes thousands of dollars on only fans,

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<v Speaker 2>who is a veteran.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe she's a Navy veteran.

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<v Speaker 2>She's also a nurse, a whole bunch of things, and

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<v Speaker 2>she got fired from her job at the hospital as

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<v Speaker 2>a nurse because they found.

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<v Speaker 1>Out she had an only fan. She went viral for it.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's what I'm saying, like, when.

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<v Speaker 2>We say badly behavior, let's clarify, because if you're being racist,

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<v Speaker 2>should that be a reason for you to get fired

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<v Speaker 2>from your job? If you're being racist outside of workspace,

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<v Speaker 2>should you get fired for that?

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<v Speaker 3>I think so yes.

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<v Speaker 4>And the reason why I say that is because I

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<v Speaker 4>feel like, if you have a racist moment on camera,

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<v Speaker 4>chances are that you've had a racist moments off camera.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're thinking that they get fired.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not going to be racist in their next job

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<v Speaker 2>because they get fired from this one job.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they will.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think what it does is it sets of

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<v Speaker 4>consequence and the sets a president that if you behave

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<v Speaker 4>this way, you will not have another job.

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<v Speaker 2>I was on Love and Hip Hop Miami on my

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<v Speaker 2>first season with a known producer called you know Young Hollywood,

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<v Speaker 2>and he had a very racist moment publicly when he

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<v Speaker 2>said that I was never going to succeed for the

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<v Speaker 2>way that I looked. I needed to be less Macy

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<v Speaker 2>Grace and more Beyonce. You know, change my hair, clean

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<v Speaker 2>my act this and that. I changed my hair eventually

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<v Speaker 2>because I wanted to. I felt it was my moment

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<v Speaker 2>to evolve and try different hairstyles. I've always clarified that

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<v Speaker 2>my hair is not who I am, it is part

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<v Speaker 2>of me. I could be ball headed tomorrow and still

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<v Speaker 2>be a and still be a fu Latina and still

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<v Speaker 2>represent my culture, my race, my ancestors, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>represents so many other things. So to me, it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>just about the hair. It was about the moral, the principle,

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<v Speaker 2>about the comments that came behind it. Right, and he

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<v Speaker 2>he had a very public racist moment. However, we were

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<v Speaker 2>able to sit down and talk after so many conversations

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<v Speaker 2>and after so many people, you know, hitting him over

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<v Speaker 2>the head, and he later on understood and he apologized

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<v Speaker 2>and people may have seen him in a bad light.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think that we have to be forgiving as

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<v Speaker 2>well in many occasions, because some.

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<v Speaker 1>People act out of ignorance.

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<v Speaker 2>That's also a question the way that you were raised, right,

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<v Speaker 2>because nobody is born racist, nobody is born you know,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever way something had to happen, someone had to convince you.

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<v Speaker 2>You must have lived some type of experience what happened,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. I think there's sometimes we were so ready

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<v Speaker 2>to be judgmental and point fingers and just ah instead

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<v Speaker 2>of trying to fix the problem. It's like when you

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<v Speaker 2>put a dangerous person or someone who committed a crime

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<v Speaker 2>in jail and you stick them in a box with

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<v Speaker 2>no therapy, with no help. That's not going to help,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you throw them back into society. How about

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<v Speaker 2>us helping each other? What happened to you? Why do

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<v Speaker 2>you feel this way? We've been dehumanized so much, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>by society, social media, comments, music video, all this other stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I just feel like, can we come back together as

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<v Speaker 2>humans again and figure out a way how to connect

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<v Speaker 2>with each other to fix what's wrong instead of trying

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<v Speaker 2>to just blame us and blame each other and put

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<v Speaker 2>each other in a box.

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<v Speaker 4>I get the whole thing about you know, like giving

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<v Speaker 4>people a second chance. But do you think that if

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<v Speaker 4>like a nurse have like a viral moment, a racist

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<v Speaker 4>no no, let's say for season Starbucks and she has

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<v Speaker 4>like a racist moment, do you think that, like if

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<v Speaker 4>she got fired for doing that, Like, do you think

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<v Speaker 4>that she give a second chance?

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<v Speaker 1>Listen? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>And like I said before, I think that every situation

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<v Speaker 2>needs to be monitored and and you know and seeing

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<v Speaker 2>you know, one situation at a time, because we've had

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<v Speaker 2>we've had even our with you had even black cops, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Even black cops do you know, do a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>in justice to their to their.

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<v Speaker 1>Brothers and sisters. Right. So we've had those.

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<v Speaker 2>Issues amongst our own community because we just don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to point into the racist. Sometimes we have racist among

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<v Speaker 2>our own people. Like I said before, So we've had

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<v Speaker 2>those moments. We've had, you know, moments that have really

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<v Speaker 2>impacted people's careers for the rest of their lives in

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<v Speaker 2>a positive or in a negative light. We've had so

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<v Speaker 2>many different things, you know, even from bullying, which is

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<v Speaker 2>another topic that we really didn't get to touch, like that,

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<v Speaker 2>we have people that are committing suicide because of the

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<v Speaker 2>pressures that they feel from society or even from videos.

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<v Speaker 2>The power that social media has going viral has the

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<v Speaker 2>way that we support the people that have badly behavior.

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<v Speaker 2>What type of mindset does that create for the young

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<v Speaker 2>generation that's growing up. What do they see if they

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<v Speaker 2>see us supporting that, are they supposed to behave that

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<v Speaker 2>way as well? Like, there is so much to unbus

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<v Speaker 2>in this conversation that I'm so passionate about it because

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<v Speaker 2>now also as a mother, I'm curious, I'm fearful, and

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<v Speaker 2>I just wonder what their future is going to look like.

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<v Speaker 2>If this is us now in twenty twenty three, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't even want to know. You know, twenty years from now,

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<v Speaker 2>what are they going to be living? You know, how's

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<v Speaker 2>the world going to change for them? Because in my era,

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<v Speaker 2>we went from having a map to having GPSS, to

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<v Speaker 2>having the you know, the house phones, to having cell

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<v Speaker 2>phones even inside your ear, to the tapes, the CDs,

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<v Speaker 2>the But we've gone through all the evolution of technology.

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<v Speaker 1>What will happen in their era?

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<v Speaker 2>If this is us recording it off our phones. Who

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<v Speaker 2>knows if when you just walk by there's cameras everywhere

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<v Speaker 2>just recording your whole life all day everywhere with face

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<v Speaker 2>recognition and this and that.

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<v Speaker 4>I the meal if almost scariously from just being a human,

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<v Speaker 4>Like everybody has human moments, right, everybody has a human experience.

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<v Speaker 4>If we don't want to create a society where people

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<v Speaker 4>always have to be on the edge and always have

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<v Speaker 4>to walk on eggs, right right, that because that beats

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<v Speaker 4>the purpose of being a human.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with you one hundred one hundred percent That's

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<v Speaker 2>why I think this conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>Was so important. Thank you so much for joining me today.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for being such an amazing world, for being

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<v Speaker 2>such a great human being, so outspoken and honestly transparently yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate that if anybody wants to follow you and

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<v Speaker 2>support you, where can they go?

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<v Speaker 4>They can find me on Instagram at Kelvin Davis, and

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<v Speaker 4>then they can hit me up on my blog at

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<v Speaker 4>no Tours a goat for dot com and purchase my

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<v Speaker 4>book wherever.

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<v Speaker 3>Books all ry.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds good to me. Well, I'll say this much.

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<v Speaker 2>If there's anything you could take home with you today

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<v Speaker 2>is listen, these phones have really big power, right, you

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<v Speaker 2>have the power in your hand. Be careful of what

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<v Speaker 2>you're supporting on social media when it comes to these

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<v Speaker 2>viral moments.

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<v Speaker 1>Be careful the type of behavior that you're supporting.

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<v Speaker 2>Be careful the type of behavior that you are putting

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<v Speaker 2>out there as well.

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<v Speaker 1>On social media.

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<v Speaker 2>Please don't think that just because you have a little

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<v Speaker 2>viral moment your life is really going to change your

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<v Speaker 2>to one thousand and you're going to become a millionaire.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't always work that way, right.

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<v Speaker 2>It could also be very damaging also remember that everything

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<v Speaker 2>that you record stays on the internet, will stay online,

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<v Speaker 2>and if it doesn't affect your career or your life

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<v Speaker 2>at this moment in your life, it can be brought

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<v Speaker 2>back up years from now, like it's happened in many occasions.

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<v Speaker 2>If we want to roll in our society to change,

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<v Speaker 2>we have to stop supporting the stupidity.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Let's stop supporting the stupidity. And I know that

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<v Speaker 1>it may be funny.

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<v Speaker 2>And it may be be entertaining for a second, but

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<v Speaker 2>just look and see how it affects our society, our

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<v Speaker 2>community in the long run, right, our kids, the TV,

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<v Speaker 2>the music, just everything overall. Having by our moments also

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<v Speaker 2>comes with big responsibilities. Be careful and if you have

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<v Speaker 2>your phone and you see some type of injustice or

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<v Speaker 2>something that can actually help somebody else's life by you

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<v Speaker 2>just pressing record, go ahead and be fearless and do

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<v Speaker 2>that because you never know what you may be recording,

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<v Speaker 2>how impactful it may be. With that being said, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you so oh so much for being part of

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly Amada.

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