1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:00,360 Speaker 1: Hi. 2 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 2: Rashan McDonald host this weekly Money Making Conversation Masterclass show. 3 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 2: The interviews and information that this show provides off for everyone. 4 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 2: It's time to stop reading other people's success stories and 5 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 2: start living your own. 6 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: I'm talking about you now. 7 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 2: If you want to be a guest on my show, 8 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 2: Money Making Conversations Masterclass, please visit our website, Moneymakingconversations dot 9 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 2: com and click the b a Guest button. If you're 10 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 2: a small business owner, entrepreneur, motivational speaker, influencer, or nonprofit 11 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 2: now let's get started. My guest is a sports psychologist. 12 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 2: He's a specialist, former professional basketball player, and co founder 13 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 2: of Play twenty one Wellness Academy in Dlut, Georgia, that's 14 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 2: right outside of Atlanta. He is wildly recognized for his 15 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 2: work with elite and professional athletes, including the world champions, 16 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 2: NFL standouts, and top collegiate performers, helping them improve through 17 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 2: mental clarity, emotional control, and peak performers under pressure. Please 18 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 2: welcome to Money Making Conversation Master Class, Doctor Kurk Jones. 19 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: That's a lot, Doctor Kurk and the era we live today. 20 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 2: You're a black person, let's start here in the black 21 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 2: community mental health. You in mental health before it became 22 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 2: a conversational piece, talk about why mental health has always 23 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 2: been a bad words are bad words in the black community. 24 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you for that question. And it has always 25 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 3: had a bad reputation when people you know refer to 26 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 3: you know, your mental health, because they always looked at 27 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 3: us a bad thing. They always said, you know, if 28 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 3: a person talked about they wasn't well, the first thing 29 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 3: was a negative through negative connotation and they put it 30 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 3: in a negative category. So today it's used a lot. 31 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 3: It's used a lot, and the good thing that they 32 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 3: put the spotlight on it is it brings attention to 33 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 3: you know, wellness and mental health and things of sort. 34 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 3: Before our community. Uh, there's a lot of work that 35 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 3: needs to be done, and I'm proud to say that 36 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,519 Speaker 3: I'm working in our community to try and bring a 37 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 3: lot of those things to the spotlight. 38 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 39 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 2: You know, being a black person and a person who's 40 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 2: been very competitive, my daughter was a high end athlete, 41 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 2: you know, and had to deal with the stress from 42 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 2: the parents performance level she was in tennis, so it 43 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 2: was a very when the team work. You don't have 44 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 2: teamwork when you're playing tennis, you know, football, you have teamwork. 45 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 2: Soccer you have teamwork. You know baseball team work. We're 46 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 2: out there with a solo sport. What do you specialize 47 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 2: when it comes to the mindset of a professional or. 48 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: Collegiate or high school athlete. So that's a great question. 49 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 3: How do I differentiate those aspects of an athlete? So 50 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:56,399 Speaker 3: I do an analysis on most of my athletes, whether 51 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 3: or not there or college, uh, you know, to become 52 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 3: a potential or you know they're about to be chosen 53 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 3: for draft as opposed to my pros. So what I 54 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 3: would do is I would sit down and I would 55 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 3: do a full phase, a full flask analysis on the athlete. 56 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 3: And then what I would do I would come up 57 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 3: with an individual plan treatment plan for those individuals to 58 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 3: engage in, and I would talk about some of the 59 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 3: things that I think we need to pinpoint as I 60 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 3: try to help my athletes. Like if most college athletes 61 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 3: deal with processing, right, Like, take a football player, you know, 62 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 3: his time to process to play from. 63 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: The hip, you know, to being sacked. 64 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 3: He has to process to feel and so his focus 65 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 3: generally is on the last play that didn't go according 66 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 3: to how he wanted it to go. So what I 67 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 3: try to do, try to get them to focus on 68 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 3: is what's happening on the next play, what's happening now? 69 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 3: And I have an it's something that I'm going to 70 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 3: mention to you. I have a methodology that I have 71 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 3: all my athletes using this called the Shelvy method right. Well, 72 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 3: helped athletes focus on what's more important for them now 73 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 3: you know how to get rid of thoughts. And it's 74 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 3: working for all of my athletes. 75 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 2: You know, we I met you at the event John 76 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 2: O'Brien event, steven A. Smith and I was at this 77 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 2: event and we started talking and my whole format is entrepreneurship, 78 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 2: small business. But I felt that what you talk about 79 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 2: we deal with on a regular basis because it's a 80 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 2: competitive business. You know, we're always on the stress because 81 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 2: we are not employed by anybody. So how does that 82 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 2: relate or do you have clients in this small or 83 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 2: entrepreneur or the corporate space that are non athletes or 84 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 2: you're one athlete only. 85 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 3: No. I deal with businesses. Some of my top clients 86 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 3: are some of their multimillion dollar businesses in regards to 87 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 3: helping them deal with their focus and how to get 88 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 3: their you know, mental thinking up the part. I always 89 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 3: say the mental thinking is a huge part of successes, right, 90 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 3: and so I deal with everything from and I'll just 91 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 3: tell you even Tony Roberts and I sat down and 92 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 3: we had a conversation and he said to me, he said, 93 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 3: you know, doctor Jones, I don't have you know, the 94 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 3: accolades that you've had, but I have a huge platform, 95 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 3: and I would love for us to you know, do 96 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 3: some work together. So you know, he and I, you know, 97 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 3: we've been speaking on you know, how we can you know, 98 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 3: kind of talk about diversity, diversifying his business and and 99 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 3: focus on you know, how he can get the mental 100 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 3: wellness to a point where he sees it helping being 101 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 3: more beneficial for the. 102 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:48,359 Speaker 1: Things that he do. 103 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 3: So to answer your question, I help various businesses, small businesses, 104 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 3: large businesses. I have a situation now that I am 105 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 3: helping out an individual or if you've heard of what 106 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 3: occurred in the news with the pipe bomb, so you 107 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 3: know that situation. The father is a friend of mine, 108 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 3: and so I'm trying to you know, help him, of 109 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 3: course decipher through some of those problems that occurred with 110 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 3: that because of course, the. 111 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: Studia that's coming to him through his son's actions. 112 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 3: Absolutely, And that's one of the things that I wanted 113 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 3: us to talk about it a little bit because the 114 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 3: way that the media generally highlight situations like that, they 115 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 3: put a whole negative spin on it, you know, and 116 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 3: you know as a father that you can do all 117 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 3: you can positively, you know, grow a business and put 118 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 3: your kids in business, and put even you know, employees 119 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 3: in businesses, and it doesn't turn out for them the 120 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 3: way that you expected it to become. And sometimes it 121 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 3: can affect you because right because you know, when they're 122 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 3: trying to spend a story, they're not just trying to 123 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 3: highlight the kid, but where the person came from, right. 124 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 2: Or they like that they are danger to society, or 125 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 2: they are good neighbors. 126 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: I trust them. 127 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 2: The coworkers where they running the business, everything that their 128 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 2: church members, everything becomes. 129 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: On the high level scrutiny. And we're talking about the young. 130 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 2: Man who had the bombs that he set aside where 131 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 2: he thought the at least I read, thought the twenty 132 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 2: twenty election was a hoax, it was a fraud, and 133 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 2: he was trying to do somebody, and then he dropped 134 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 2: off a couple of bombs in twenty twenty one, they 135 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 2: tracked him down just having to be an African American 136 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 2: and so is, which is again a lot of stereotypes 137 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,119 Speaker 2: lead you to say that's not normal in the African 138 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 2: American community, But we don't know what is normal nowadays. 139 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 2: But doctor Kirtchalls, something you said early on was that 140 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 2: that I really appreciate is that you don't cookie cut 141 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 2: your relationships with your clients. 142 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: Thank you for noticing it. 143 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, you treat them in it and that's important because 144 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 2: lots of people try to feel put everybody in a box. Females, age, 145 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 2: you know, race, this is how they are, this is 146 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 2: how they grow up. Why did you and why are 147 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 2: you doing such detailed work like that? 148 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: Well, I think it was my calling. 149 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 3: And one of the things that I often tell people 150 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 3: is that when it comes to dealing with these sports 151 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 3: and athletes, I deal with elite athletes, and the elite 152 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 3: athletes are those who sometimes they don't feel like they 153 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 3: need you until there's a problem in their lives. So 154 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 3: imagine being an elite athlete and the and the thoughts 155 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 3: of which you think about every day. I'm the best, 156 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 3: right and you have to think that way in order 157 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 3: to be the best. I'm the best, and then all 158 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 3: of a sudden you're you're struggling with some things in 159 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 3: your life. Right, So it takes a prideful person to 160 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 3: be able to come to someone like me and say, Doc, 161 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 3: I need your help. And so I'm not gonna I'm 162 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 3: not gonna sit here and I'm not going to sugarcoat 163 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 3: what we need to do for you, because you know, 164 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 3: some of the issues that they bring to the table 165 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,199 Speaker 3: are some of the issues that I think that they 166 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 3: need to be told. This is what you have to 167 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 3: do to get rid of at it, and sometimes there's 168 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 3: some tough decisions, but it's something that I have to do. 169 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 1: Well. 170 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 2: You know, I'm talking to doctor Kirk Jones. You co 171 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 2: found a Play twenty one Wellness Academy. Now that's based 172 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 2: down in the Atlanta area and Dilute, Georgia. So what 173 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 2: exactly is Play twenty one Wellness Academy. 174 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 1: That's a great question. 175 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 3: So the way that Play twenty one was organized came 176 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 3: from my background. Okay, I'm a kid of Chicago and 177 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 3: at an early age I lost my best friend who 178 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 3: was the number one basketball player in America, Ben Wilson. 179 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,599 Speaker 3: It's you know, a highly recognized individual. And from that 180 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 3: time when he lost his life, I really was struggling 181 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 3: at the time, at the early age, and we always 182 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 3: played when he was alive, we always played the basketball 183 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 3: game of twenty one. Okay, So with that, when he 184 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 3: actually got shot and he died and it was such 185 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 3: a huge story, I really didn't have anyone who put 186 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 3: their arms around me. I found myself death right well, 187 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 3: it wasn't a game related death. It was a it 188 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 3: was a death of wrong place at the wrong time. 189 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 3: I would say. He he was with his girlfriend at 190 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 3: the time, and he was in the story. And there 191 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 3: was a couple of stories out there, and I have 192 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 3: to I have to go with the one that I 193 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 3: was told because Jatan was his girlfriend at the time, 194 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 3: and Jatan and my girlfriend they were best friends, and 195 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 3: he and I were best friends, and what she told me, 196 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 3: I have to go with. And that's a totally different 197 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 3: story that was documented in our twenty fourteen a documentary 198 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 3: which I'm in. But since his death, I was wrapping 199 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 3: my arms around a lot of people because a lot 200 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 3: of people struggled with his death, and I was finding 201 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 3: strength within helping people. So as I matriculated through life. 202 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:11,559 Speaker 3: I found that helping individuals would be a way that 203 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 3: I can kind of relieve my grief from his death. 204 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 3: And so our form Play twenty one, and the whole 205 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 3: infrastructure behind Play twenty one is that we wanted to 206 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 3: go out and help youth athletes. There's a story that's 207 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 3: being told right now in regards to parent abuse and 208 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 3: teacher abuse, which we're trying to put. 209 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: A spotlight on. 210 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 3: And if you look at a lot of the social media, 211 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 3: you'll notice that there's a lot of students that's putting 212 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 3: their hands on teachers, a lot of children that's putting 213 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 3: their hands on their parents. So Play twenty one was 214 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 3: designed to not only bring these issues to a spotlight, 215 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 3: but to give them a segue so that they can 216 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 3: get relief and some help through support groups and things 217 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 3: of sort. That's what Play twenty one it's all about. 218 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 3: We have a profit in it as well as a 219 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 3: non problem. 220 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 1: It's really interesting. 221 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 2: I know, when I was in elementary, I lost a 222 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 2: friend of mine, uh uh, suffocated on a balloon, you know, 223 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 2: and and I always remembered, even to this day, I 224 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 2: remember that death, you know, death is really can have 225 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 2: an impact of it, especially young people. 226 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: Because we have no outlets. 227 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 2: We don't have we can't go to work, you know, 228 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 2: we don't have any you know, we just could be 229 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 2: bottled up to that, to that one moment, you know, 230 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 2: and the fact that that still stays in your life. 231 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 2: And so we talk about high level athletes. Confidence can 232 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 2: be shattered. Like they always say you if you watch sports, 233 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 2: they tell you forget to forget the touchdown, your thrown 234 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 2: and forget the interception or the farm more you just made. 235 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: Move on to the next play. 236 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 2: And life is kind of like that too, moving on 237 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 2: to the next play, moving on to the next moment, 238 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 2: the next relationships, the next deal. How do you talk 239 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 2: about that when you're talking to your clients. 240 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: Well, that's a great question. 241 00:12:57,960 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 3: And again I take you back to my shelve and 242 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 3: methodology that I've instituted and focuses on. So just to 243 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 3: give you a brief overall on what it really talks about. 244 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 3: There are four shelves. Like imagine having the shelf in 245 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 3: front of you where you place your items on. 246 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 1: Right, So there's a four shelf. 247 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 3: There's four shelves, and so there's the immediate shelf, right, 248 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 3: there's the active shelf. Right, there's the holding shelf, and 249 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 3: there's the elimination shelf. 250 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 1: Right. 251 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 3: So on the immediate shelf, what you place is what 252 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 3: you need to get done within the next twenty four hours, 253 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 3: what's more urgent than anything else that you think that matters, right. 254 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 3: And so then you have, of course your active shelf, 255 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 3: which is something that's urgent but it can be put 256 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 3: off just a little bit, right. And then we have 257 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 3: our holding shelf, which we want to hold things on 258 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 3: and decide what we want to do. Do we want 259 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 3: to go back to those things, right or do we 260 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 3: just kind of want to just push them in the back. 261 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 3: Then we have the total elimination shelf, which is a 262 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 3: very important shelf because a lot of people hold on 263 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 3: to a lot of thoughts that do not They don't 264 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 3: understand how we can put this on the elimination shelf 265 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 3: and never get back to those thoughts. And once I 266 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 3: help athletes kind of see what shelf that they thought 267 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 3: should be processed on, it helps them focus. It's like 268 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 3: the last play occurred, you can't do anything about that. 269 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 3: You can't take the last play to the next play 270 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 3: because if you if you're sitting there thinking about what occurred, 271 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 3: it didn't go your way, then you're going to be 272 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 3: in the tail spain and then you're not going to 273 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 3: be able to accomplish the goal that you're set forth 274 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 3: to be out here doing. 275 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: And that's important. 276 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 2: Goals are important in this process as well, Coase it 277 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 2: is how do you help people set their goals? 278 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 3: So goals have what I call steps to setting goals. 279 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 3: As you know, there's the planning, you know, there's the 280 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 3: there's the execution part of the goal, and then there 281 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 3: is the the actually once you reach the goal, how 282 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 3: do you sustain the goal? So I talked to I 283 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 3: talk to people about their purpose right, walking in your purpose, 284 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 3: walking in your power, because when you walk in your 285 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 3: purpose right, there's no stopping, there's no denying you like, 286 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 3: you can do a lot of different things. But if 287 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 3: it's not your purpose in which you set your goals for, 288 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 3: then sometimes they're going to be obstacles and to reach 289 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 3: your goals. A lot of times it's going to be roadblocks. 290 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 3: As you know, you know they're going to be roadblocks. 291 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 3: And I talked to people a lot about you know, 292 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 3: those roadblocks are learning blocks and you know, don't ever 293 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 3: look at anything that doesn't occur the way you want 294 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 3: it to go as a negative thing, look at it 295 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 3: as a learning experience and find out you know how 296 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 3: you can process this and put this in your purpose 297 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 3: to reach your goals. 298 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: Please don't go anywhere. 299 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 2: We'll be right back with more Money Making Conversations master Class. 300 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 2: Welcome back to Money Making Conversation master Class with me 301 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 2: Rashaun McDonald. I'm talking to the doctor Kurt Jones, found 302 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 2: the co founder of Play twenty one Wellness Academy. Let's 303 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 2: talk about rebuilding your confidence after a major setback. 304 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: That's part of life. 305 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 2: And that major setback can be defined in a relationship, 306 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 2: can be defined in the death, can be defined in 307 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 2: a business catastrophe or business closing, or an order not 308 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 2: coming in on time that could be a major catastrophe, 309 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 2: or a robbery or security breach. All these a major 310 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 2: in the athlete injury. All these things are not winning 311 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 2: the championship that you thought you had in the bag. 312 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 2: And so these are major setbacks we have to deal 313 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 2: with on a regular basis. And some can be as 314 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 2: trivial us not showing off to work on time and 315 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 2: all your alarm clock can not going off. 316 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: These are triggers I call them triggers. 317 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 2: So when you're dealing with these triggers, that can become 318 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 2: major issues if you don't know how to balance the 319 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 2: emotional charge that comes with that, how do you handle 320 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 2: with your clients? 321 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 3: So again, talk about confidence building, right, right. Confidence is 322 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 3: something that a lot of athletes generally have within themselves. 323 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:18,959 Speaker 3: But when they when they're winning, confidence is there. It's 324 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:20,479 Speaker 3: a it's a building stage. 325 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: Sometimes the momentum in the game. 326 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 3: Right, it's the momentum, it's you know we're winning. You know, 327 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:27,959 Speaker 3: the confidence, you know, the camaraderie or the team. But 328 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 3: let's take an individual sports such as tennis and boxing, 329 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 3: because I have I have some professional athletes some I'm 330 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 3: sure that you've heard about that that was winning and 331 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 3: had a record of forty wins and and uh you 332 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 3: know thirty nine knockouts, right, And so then all of 333 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 3: a sudden they lose. So so they lose not just 334 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 3: one fight, but then they lose a strict of three 335 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 3: or four fights, right, Because after the first loss, it 336 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 3: kind of take your confidence. 337 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: I can't believe. 338 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 3: It's kind of a shock, like you can't believe I love, right, 339 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 3: And then so you're really not really not thinking the 340 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 3: way that you used to think when you were winning. 341 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 3: So now you're taking those old thoughts that that had 342 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 3: you lose into the new situation. And then you're still 343 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 3: not accomplishing what you set out to do. And then 344 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 3: you sustain another law. So now all of these things 345 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 3: is beating at you. It seems like the world is 346 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 3: collapsing on a lot of times when you're going through this, 347 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 3: because one one thing leads to another that helped your 348 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 3: thoughts trickle down to a point of it becomes dark thoughts. 349 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 3: I want to be around nobody. I want to talk 350 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 3: to nobody. All the questions that being asked you now 351 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 3: is why did you lose that You're not prepare It's 352 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 3: not congratulations no more so now when you when you 353 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 3: have set your mind into all of the positive things, 354 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:50,679 Speaker 3: then all of a sudden you got to deal with 355 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 3: these negative thoughts and these negative questions. Is is negative 356 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 3: rural around you? You know, it's hard to build your confidence. 357 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 3: So what I try to do is I try to 358 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 3: remind them of what got you to the point where 359 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 3: you were winning. Right, we need to get back to 360 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 3: that point, and we need to not only get back 361 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,719 Speaker 3: to that point, but we need to make that point 362 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 3: a better point, because what people don't understand is greatness. 363 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 3: Once you reach the mountain of greatness, right, it's hard 364 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 3: to reach for a lot of people. A lot of 365 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 3: people haven't been to where these elite athletes has gone. 366 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 3: So I tell them, you something special, you dig deep 367 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 3: into you know, your special part of you? Right, go 368 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 3: back to who you know you are. Make yourself better. 369 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 3: Let's talk about the steps. Let's look at footage's look 370 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 3: at your greatness. Let's look at some of the things 371 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 3: that got you to where you need to be right 372 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 3: in order to sustain your greatness and make you better. 373 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 2: Right. 374 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 3: And when they start realizing that, yeah, doctor, right, you 375 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 3: know I am a great person. I do believe in 376 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 3: myself because because people who lose their confidence, it's not 377 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 3: a total loss, it's just set aside and they stop 378 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 3: questioning themselves more. And I start saying, don't question yourself. 379 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 3: Know again your purpose? Right, what your purpose is? Why 380 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 3: you hear? What do you need to do? 381 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: Right? 382 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 3: And then I've had to retire some people as well, 383 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 3: some people that think that they can still continue at 384 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 3: that levels. And I say, you know, let's just relook 385 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 3: at this, right. I never tell a person to quit, 386 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 3: always say let's relook at where you are in your 387 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 3: career and make let them make the decide how they 388 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 3: want to proceed with their career. 389 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 2: You know, I always think of it used the word 390 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 2: consistency when I hear somebody like you talk consistency about anything. 391 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 2: I always tell people in my life money through Friday. 392 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 2: I woke up at four thirty eight. That's my time. 393 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 2: It's not five Thursdays not six. If I charge altering 394 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 2: that get up time, it does impack my success story 395 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 2: for that day. And so anybody who has a career. 396 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 2: I look at careers when when you're in your twenties, 397 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 2: you don't see forty, you don't see fifty, definitely don't 398 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 2: see sixty. It's like when you look at forty, you 399 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 2: start to be able to look back and see what 400 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 2: have I done consistently that's kept me at forty. And 401 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 2: so when I hear individuals like you communicate with other 402 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,360 Speaker 2: individuals where you're an athlete. If your business opens at eight, 403 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,679 Speaker 2: it needs to open up at eight every day. It 404 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 2: can't open up a fifteen eight thirty. I'm tied. When 405 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 2: I get there, I open it. So that's the inconsistency 406 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:29,719 Speaker 2: that you're talking about that athletes have to if they 407 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 2: train a certain way. Lebron is successful because he still 408 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 2: trains the same way. He carries a trainer with him 409 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 2: when he travels, they make his food, and so that's 410 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 2: the consistency. 411 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 1: So when they fall. 412 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 2: Off, because you're gonna fall off that track, you're gonna 413 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,719 Speaker 2: get injured, you're gonna hurt. You're gonna have a relationship 414 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 2: that doesn't go the way you expect that. 415 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: You're gonna have a business deal that didn't go through. 416 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 2: You're gonna have an item that didn't sell like you 417 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 2: thought it was gonna sell. 418 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: You're gonna employ. You might up and quit on you because. 419 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 2: They saw that. They decided they don't want to work 420 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 2: in the morning. But thenybody want to get married, They 421 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 2: decided they might want to move. They may have nothing 422 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 2: to do with you, but you gotta be prepared. In 423 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 2: my office, I've always trained my staff. Somebody goes on vacation. 424 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 2: Guess what, somebody can do their work. Somebody sick, somebody 425 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 2: can do their work. And that's all you're saying when 426 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 2: you're talking about individuals. And now, I always like to 427 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 2: bring a story or a storyteller like you on my 428 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 2: show because people watch sports plays such an important role. 429 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 2: What you see on TV can translate to your everyday 430 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 2: life as a student, as a business owner, as a husband, 431 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:41,439 Speaker 2: as a wife, as a parent. 432 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 1: Correct, listen, You're absolutely right. 433 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 3: And consistency is one of the things that I often 434 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,679 Speaker 3: tell individuals when they ask me, well, how can I 435 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 3: get here? So one of the one of the biggest, 436 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 3: one of the biggest things. And I'm gonna ask you 437 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 3: this question. Have you ever seen a brinch truck behind 438 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 3: a funeral car? 439 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: Right right? 440 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 3: You understand because that's the because the funeral home is 441 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 3: there is the richest place in the rail I mean, 442 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 3: the graveyard is the richest place in the rail Because 443 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 3: people died with with multi million dollar dreams and ideas 444 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 3: because they don't know how to scale their businesses to 445 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 3: a point where it makes sense for them. It's a 446 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 3: great idea from the start, but then they get to 447 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 3: a point like that, well when do I do that? 448 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 3: And you're right, consistency and even consistency when you when 449 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 3: you're staying consistent, you got to make small changes right 450 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 3: of being able to adapt to certain situations because you know, 451 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 3: with the economy, the way it changes a lot of times, 452 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 3: you know you have to You can't just always figure well, 453 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 3: I'm gonna do the same thing I did last year. 454 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 3: You got to say, well, I'm gonna add little things 455 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 3: or make a little change. It's just like with an 456 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 3: athlete I got, for instance, this is a this is 457 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 3: a good example. I got a athlete right now that's 458 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 3: in the NFL, and he's probably going to end up 459 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 3: being a Rookie of the Year. 460 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: To be quite frank with you. 461 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 3: I believe he's going to be the real And I'm 462 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 3: never really wrong with a lot of my thinking. I'd 463 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,919 Speaker 3: just like to say that, but I think he's going 464 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 3: to be the Rookie the Year. But he's had some 465 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 3: hard times this year because they wasn't winning to the 466 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 3: capacity in which he's used to winning right when he 467 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 3: was in college. 468 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 1: Right. 469 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 3: So I told the athlete, I said, listen, you got 470 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,479 Speaker 3: to understand when you are an elite athlete and they 471 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 3: got expectations of you, you're going to go to the 472 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 3: worst team. The scenario of going to the best player 473 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 3: going to the worst team has always played out in 474 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 3: your case, right, So how do you stay strong? How 475 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 3: do you keep your confidence, keep knowing who you are, 476 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 3: because it takes time, first of all, to change the 477 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 3: whole concept of a team coacher, the great the culture 478 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 3: of a team. But they're looking for you to have 479 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 3: to institute some of that change and some of that 480 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 3: battle so they can get better. And knowing that you got, 481 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 3: you know, this big weight to carry on your shoulders, 482 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 3: you know, you got to walk your head up. You 483 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,719 Speaker 3: got to always let them know what you're about. You 484 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 3: go out there and you give it your best, and 485 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 3: you understand it's a it's a learning process because now 486 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,360 Speaker 3: you're playing with the best of the best. 487 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 2: In the world, right right, and the best of the 488 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 2: best is what life is about. If you want to 489 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 2: be able to compete with the best of the best, 490 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 2: work consistency. Doctor kurk Jones, I've been mentioning your academy, 491 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 2: Play twenty one Wellness Academy. How do we touch with 492 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 2: you as there a website, social media? Let's talk about that, right, yes, 493 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 2: absolutely so. 494 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 3: So you know you can always contact us at support 495 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 3: us UH support us P twenty one w a dot 496 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 3: org and you can always we have a website that's 497 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:39,199 Speaker 3: you know, Play twenty one Wellness academy dot com. You 498 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 3: can always reach out to us and leave some information 499 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 3: if you want to reach us, if you if you're 500 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,199 Speaker 3: looking to you know, come to some of our seminars. 501 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 3: We also, as I mentioned to you, Deontay Wilder, and 502 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 3: we have a wellcast, right And everybody says that like 503 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 3: a podcast. Yes, absolutely it's a podcast, but it's more 504 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 3: of a wellcast because the guests that we bring on 505 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 3: our shows, individuals like yourself, are people who we get 506 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 3: on there to kind of talk their backgrounds of mental wellness. 507 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,159 Speaker 1: And health and how it's helped. 508 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 3: Them to get into a place of what they are 509 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 3: and the things that they had to deal with. 510 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 1: And so. 511 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 3: I would love to, you know, like I said, to 512 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 3: have people like yourself for and other individuals to come 513 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 3: out so that we can kind of help people understand 514 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 3: that you're not out here alone, that the things that 515 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 3: you talk about people can relate to. And I think 516 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 3: that's the most important factor and what it is that 517 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 3: I do and what we do is that people can 518 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 3: relate to the circumstances that you present in front of them, 519 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 3: because people are struggling now here right now. 520 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a tough time. 521 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 2: And then COVID kind of kicked it off, and because 522 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 2: people got locked into their homes and they are with 523 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 2: individuals they didn't know, or isolation they didn't expect. And 524 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 2: now at least it has mental health in the forefront 525 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 2: of conversation, when it used to be like, hey, you know, 526 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 2: don't ask hotel in the mental health community. You know, 527 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 2: you know, success is really amazing, you know, Managi State 528 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 2: Hardy from twenty twenty sixteen, some of my clients and 529 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 2: Steven A. Smith, Keith Sweat, Cherry Shepherd, and just personally 530 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 2: myself being at the top of the food chain. That's 531 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 2: a certain pressure that comes with that, you know, and 532 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 2: some people don't understand that sometimes it's a lot more 533 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 2: far than climbing versus staying, because you're constantly not so 534 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 2: much personally under the attack, but mentally under attack because 535 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 2: the individuals or the world, there are certain levels of expectations. 536 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 2: In other words, Patrick Holmes, they expect him to know 537 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,439 Speaker 2: a Super Bowl every year, and now they're looking at 538 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 2: it like he's the worst quarterback in the league, say 539 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 2: Travis Kelsey. 540 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: They act like he can't play tighty end no more. 541 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 2: You know, because that because people put expectations on you. 542 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 1: The wild part about it. 543 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 2: You accept those expectations, you know, and so success puts 544 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,199 Speaker 2: that on you. You cannot, as a successful person, say 545 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 2: you don't want to win another super Bowl. 546 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: You say, I want to win a super Bowl. So 547 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 1: now you. 548 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 2: Actually locked down expectations that you may or may not 549 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 2: can't reach. How do you in dealing with your clowns 550 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 2: and entrepreneurs tell them to temper that, but not deter 551 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 2: to the model that they've created, which is success. 552 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 3: That is a great question, and I'm so glad you 553 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 3: asked that, And I'm going to put you into this 554 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 3: scenario with the people that you've mentioned. You're Steve Harvey's right, 555 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 3: you're Sherry Shepherd's stephen A. Smith's. Think about the people 556 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 3: that you and I have advised. They are the high class, 557 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 3: top athletes that think and know that they're great. Right, 558 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 3: So for us we have to know that we're great 559 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 3: as well. And only great people want to reach out 560 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 3: to have great people help them, because the work of 561 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 3: great people sometimes makes people reach back and say, listen, 562 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 3: I had somebody who put things in perspective for me 563 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 3: and now and I'm able to understand what this role 564 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 3: that I have to play is now, then I can 565 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 3: go back and I can help others. And I think 566 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 3: that that's important for people like yourself and I that 567 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 3: we've done because we brought their whole understanding of yes, 568 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 3: it's good to put yourself in the spotlight of greatness, 569 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 3: but how do you help other people become great like 570 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 3: you thought that you were sometime. 571 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: Or that you believe that you are? 572 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 3: And that's all you know, those cliche reach one, teach one, 573 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 3: you know, help one become great. And I think that's 574 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 3: the spotlight that a lot of people kind of don't understand, 575 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 3: is that when you're dealing with these type of people 576 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 3: that you and I talk to and we help out 577 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 3: every day, they coming to us with their worse situations, 578 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 3: right they're talking things to us that we have to 579 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 3: help them kind of decipher it through and pick and choose. 580 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: Is that important? That's why the shelving method is. 581 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 3: So important, because you know, when people say, well, how 582 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 3: do you go home? 583 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: How do you rest? I get that. I mean, you 584 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: know who's the person that you throw to, right who 585 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: we like to do. 586 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 3: So what I've learned to do, I know how to 587 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 3: separate what I do and who I am right, and 588 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 3: it helps me, you know, sustain out through the course 589 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 3: of my day, because if I'm preaching it, then I 590 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 3: have to believe it. Let's talk about relationship, doctor Kirch, okay, 591 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 3: because that's also a part of the process. You know, 592 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 3: you know, you're successful over here and sometimes you come 593 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 3: home and you solid tame. You know, don't communicate, don't 594 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 3: know how to communicate because you tie to communicate. How 595 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 3: do you balance that and how do you talk to 596 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 3: your clients or is that part of the communication that 597 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 3: you deal with with your clans their personal relationships. I 598 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 3: deal with all of that. And it's funny that you 599 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 3: mentioned that as you was asking me. You know, I 600 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 3: have sessions with not only a business professionals, but married couples. 601 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 3: I'm talking and I'm talking high class married couples, like 602 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 3: I have an orthopedic doctor and his wife who's also 603 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 3: a doctor as one of my clients, and so, uh, 604 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 3: they have a situation going on where it was just 605 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 3: you know, how do we balance the work, how do 606 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 3: we balance the home relationships? And we and we make 607 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 3: these things work at the house. So what I try 608 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 3: and understand, let people understand that you have to balance it. 609 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 3: It's like the fourth steps. Here's the thing that's force. 610 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 3: There's really four steps to life, right. 611 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 1: And you know this. 612 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 3: You know when you get fifty, they're like, oh you 613 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 3: half almost over. You're seventy five. You know you you 614 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 3: lucky to be this age. You get to one hundred, 615 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 3: you know you got less days of fun. 616 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: You you know how this go. 617 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 3: So so I tell people, you know that that balance 618 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 3: of life, like my four Shelvy methods, you got to 619 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 3: be able to leave work at work, come home and 620 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 3: focus on your your home life right. And then whatever 621 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 3: businesses that you gotta deal with outside of their home life. 622 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 3: You know you gotta you gotta, you know, balance these 623 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 3: things out. And a lot of times men and we 624 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 3: don't talk about men a little bit. Men we carry 625 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 3: a huge burden. We feel like we got so much 626 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 3: on our shoulders. We can't cry. We gotta be the 627 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 3: strength for everyone else, right, we got to just carry 628 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 3: the load. We got to pay the bills. And that's 629 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 3: a lot for some people. I get a lot of 630 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 3: my men, especially my professional men and high class athletes, 631 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 3: that say, man, this is a lot for me to carry, right, 632 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 3: But guess what it's walking in your purpose again, right, how. 633 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 1: Do you how do you carry this? Well? 634 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 3: You gotta balance it out and you got to understand it. 635 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 3: And once you understand it, then you you're better able 636 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 3: to deal with it. And that's why I'm good at 637 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 3: helping people try to understand why is this putting on 638 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 3: you your responsibilities, and how do we move forward as 639 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 3: we deal with these situations. 640 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 2: You know, the situations are when they are normal, you 641 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 2: accept it. In one of the situations, when they abnormal, 642 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 2: you kind of questioning. And like you mentioned athletes, you know, 643 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 2: they're supposed to be a certain way. That's why mental 644 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 2: health and athletes in the military, you don't want anybody 645 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,479 Speaker 2: to say I'm stressing in their military leaders. You know, 646 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 2: you don't ever want the President of the United States 647 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 2: saying they go to a therapist. 648 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 1: You know, certain things you don't want to hear because. 649 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 2: And that's what stress comes in, because you can't be 650 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 2: normal in a way, you know, because in life can 651 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 2: force you in a position where you have to be 652 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 2: abnormal in a normal situation because you can't seek out help. 653 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 2: And so I always remember that in myself. You know, 654 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 2: you know, I'm under stress on the regular basis all 655 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 2: the time, all the time. And now I've learned to 656 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 2: balance it. Now that's not good. I've never had an ulcer. 657 00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 1: You know. 658 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 2: I would tell this sir about my wife. She is 659 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 2: a what are you tired? And I tell her I'm 660 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 2: tired right down, you know. But I've learned to balance that. 661 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 2: I'm not telling anybody that's a good thing, you know. 662 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 2: But in life, in order to be successful, you're going 663 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 2: to have to set aside balance that You're going to 664 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 2: have to be uncomfortable to be comfortable. 665 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 1: That's right. 666 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 3: You gotta you, gotta you, you. You hit the neel 667 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 3: right on the head. And I tell people you can't 668 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 3: stay comfortable. And when you're when you're pursuing the gold 669 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 3: of dreaming and ambition, right, you have to get out 670 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 3: of your comfort zone. But you got to also know 671 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,919 Speaker 3: how to pull yourself away from that discomfort and put 672 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 3: yourself in the comfort zone. A lot of people don't 673 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 3: know how to do that because it's like you say, 674 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 3: sometimes it's just work, work, Wake up? 675 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 1: What do I need to do? What I need to do? 676 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: What I need to do? 677 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:53,879 Speaker 3: Well, when you realize that a lot of especially black men, 678 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 3: are are walking around with you know, heart murmurs and 679 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 3: and uh, you know high blood pressure. You know all 680 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:05,240 Speaker 3: these things that's causing early death right because they carry 681 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:06,320 Speaker 3: so much stress. 682 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:06,879 Speaker 1: Right. 683 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 3: My first thing that I always would tell somebody when 684 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 3: it comes to your health and your wellness is to 685 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,839 Speaker 3: go to your doctor. That's the first thing I always say. 686 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,359 Speaker 3: Make sure that all your levels are good. Right, no 687 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 3: matter what capacity or work you're in, go to your 688 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 3: doctor and make sure that you know all your vital 689 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 3: signs are good. Because when I when I talk to 690 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 3: a lot of my players and I said, when the 691 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 3: last time you had a you know physical, they go 692 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 3: and you know a lot of athletes it's required for 693 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,880 Speaker 3: them to have physicals. But like on a lot of 694 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 3: men be like, oh I'm good, No even women, go 695 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 3: see your doctor. And that's what we're going to start. 696 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,879 Speaker 3: So like a person like yourself who's always on a goal, 697 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,320 Speaker 3: who's you know, always working longer, if your vital signs 698 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 3: are good, then we start. Then then you know that 699 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 3: your body is good, and that's how you can kind 700 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 3: of start on this path of you know, ease men 701 00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 3: and relaxation say to be able to continue, you but 702 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 3: then it has to be a goal for you also 703 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 3: like a hard working person that's used to working, like 704 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 3: yourself and Steve Harvey and all these athletes, what is 705 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 3: your ultimate goal, Like, what is it that you really 706 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 3: want to want to want to accomplish that you haven't accomplished, right, 707 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 3: so that you can kind of start easing out of 708 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,280 Speaker 3: the tension of feeling like I'm always having to hustle. 709 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 3: And so once you feel like I found a you know, 710 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,879 Speaker 3: I found a way to kind of, you know, push 711 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 3: away some of their stresses and I can now focus 712 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 3: on the merry life, right, the happy life, then I will, 713 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 3: I would say, focus on that. And then I often 714 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 3: tell my clients and my athletes to reward yourself. And 715 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say to you, you probably don't give yourself 716 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 3: enough self reward. Self reward is great. See a lot 717 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 3: of people look for social media and all these people 718 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 3: to be out here giving them rewards. And you know, athletes, 719 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 3: you know and put it, but give it to yourself. 720 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 3: Give it to yourself because you've been able to put 721 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 3: yourself in a situation where you got trusted client tele 722 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 3: people with big names to say, brother Rassan, you are, 723 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 3: I believe in you, right, And that's a reward that 724 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 3: you have to give to yourself, and like I said, 725 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 3: a lot of us we don't reward ourselves. 726 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:21,799 Speaker 2: As you close, doctor Kirk Jones, any platforms we missed 727 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 2: or any new books we need to bring out. 728 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 3: On Yes, actually I have a book. Well, I have 729 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:30,359 Speaker 3: a book out now called Shitetown Blueprints that shown Yeah, 730 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:36,360 Speaker 3: Shitetown Blueprints actually brought you a copy Shitetown Blueprints that 731 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 3: that's out now. You can you know, upload this in digital. 732 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 3: It's a hard soft back and it talks about my 733 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,800 Speaker 3: story growing up in Chicago and how I became a 734 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,760 Speaker 3: sports psychologist and the loss of my best friend Benji, 735 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 3: and how I'm helping out a lot of athletes and 736 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 3: other individuals. And I think it's a great story because 737 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:58,319 Speaker 3: it talks about mental resilience and because we all got 738 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 3: a story that we want to tell and how do 739 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 3: we piece those stories together to make it work within 740 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,840 Speaker 3: our purpose. And also I'm coming out with my workbook 741 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 3: it should be out soon about my shelving method that 742 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 3: you know, we're taking on the national stage with talking 743 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:17,759 Speaker 3: to schools, colleges, university, HBCUs and doctors and lawyers to 744 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 3: help them kind of you know, stay focused and understand 745 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 3: what their purposes are. 746 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:23,399 Speaker 1: Dorek Kirk one more time. 747 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 3: Your website it is P twenty one WA dot org, 748 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 3: and then it's play twenty one Wellness Academy dot dot com. 749 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 2: This has been Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashaun McDonald. 750 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 1: Thanks to I guess and our audience. 751 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:43,319 Speaker 2: Visit Moneymaking Conversations dot com to listen and register to 752 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:44,319 Speaker 2: be a guest.