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Speaker 1: Who do you who? This is a reminder for all

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Speaker 1: New York City residents that I, George Severis, am doing

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Speaker 1: a show on December third at the Bellhouse in Brooklyn,

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Speaker 1: New York, to celebrate the release of my debut comedy special.

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Speaker 1: It will be a George and Friends show with Sabrina Wu,

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Speaker 1: Mary Beth Brown and hopefully some other surprise guests. So

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Speaker 1: by your tickets now, I believe they are going fast.

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Speaker 1: You can find tickets at the Bellhouse website and in

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Speaker 1: my Instagram bio and I will see you December third

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Speaker 1: at the Bellhouse. And that's it for now.

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Speaker 2: Enjoy the show podcast arts. Now what is going on?

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Speaker 2: I just we have breaking news breaking New York City,

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Speaker 2: which is that George is actually in a good mood.

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Speaker 1: I have my huntigo mug or as we called them

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Speaker 1: with Drsy cunty go girl, cunty go girl.

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Speaker 2: Mug wow.

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Speaker 1: I sort of think, you know, when you have like

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Speaker 1: some sort and it's just been sort of washed and

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Speaker 1: kind of washed for like over a decade, and you're like,

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Speaker 1: am I poisoning myself by still using this? That's kind

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Speaker 1: of how I feel I can tell if I'm kind

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Speaker 1: of tasting metal and that might be contributing to my

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Speaker 2: I mean, whatever works, I guess I feel that like

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Speaker 2: there's something so nineties, Like I'm at home with my

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Speaker 2: you know, less than a year ago. Yeah, and there's

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Speaker 1: So what's up with you?

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Speaker 2: So? Pretty much? I'm in New York and I couldn't

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they need to invent a way to travel where

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Speaker 2: you actually sleep well.

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Speaker 1: They need to invent more broadly, I would say a

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Speaker 1: way to sleep normally literally, because guess what, all the

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Speaker 1: options we have have either make us have truly horrifying dreams.

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Speaker 2: What's the drug called? But will no? What's the other one?

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Speaker 1: Melatonin?

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Speaker 2: That one? When I take that one, I literally wake

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Speaker 2: up punching, like it's like a danger. I have scared

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Speaker 1: You either have horrifying dreams We're talking like lynchion nightmares,

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Speaker 1: or if I'm taking I'm taking a two milligram edible

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Speaker 1: I say what day is it? And what year?

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Speaker 2: And I'm busy.

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Speaker 1: I've been fired from all my jobs. I am a

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Speaker 1: free I am a precarious, free lancer with no health

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Speaker 2: Yet, not yet, wait till jan I am I And

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Speaker 2: then I was. I had that thing because I woke

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Speaker 2: do I do? I get up and like be like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's literally what I did, of course, and it

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Speaker 1: That's the dream I think my life would be so

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Speaker 2: That's true. I today also was like it's blustery outside,

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Speaker 1: That's why everyone in la is like, I can't remember

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Speaker 2: Can I say something I better? I'm on a podcast.

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Speaker 2: I was looking at people who are also out running

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you were like, what, you're having had sex

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Speaker 2: Also, people are like fully tackling each other six point

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Speaker 1: Oh, you were jerking it in the corner. You're like,

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Speaker 2: I was like, I don't have friends like this. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: up for me, just like for once in my fucking life.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to get any younger.

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Speaker 2: I mean literally, I was watching them. I was like,

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Speaker 1: No, it hurt my back, no, which is.

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Speaker 2: Really pitiful to be Like, if that happened to me,

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Speaker 1: Wow, stup, it's all messed up. Should be bringing our

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Speaker 2: And it never clicked for me, And I know I

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Speaker 1: Why is she saying I drop it?

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Speaker 2: Or it would be like now you have to like

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think? Excuse me? What do you think?

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Speaker 1: What do you think of? Like things like okay, there's

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Speaker 1: It's eleven eleven make a wish things where like you

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Speaker 2: I actually think it's fun. Well, you did start this

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Speaker 1: It says I hard you see what is the cafe

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Speaker 2: It was like Grand Coffee.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, it's George Severis, actually George Saverias.

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Speaker 2: Should we bring in our guests, yes, please do the honor.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm like, I'm actually so excited to

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, this is.

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Speaker 1: Kind of an og. This guest has like a place

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Speaker 1: on my household. M there's a video this guest did

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Speaker 3: Thank you?

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Speaker 1: What is uh?

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Speaker 3: I'm worse.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm worse because I feel like, yeah, I haven't

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my gosh.

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Speaker 2: There's something about I have to say seeing business people

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like this is well, they're interesting. You know what's interesting.

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Speaker 1: so fun to be in Brooklyn for one day. Everyone

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm literally where do you all get your clothes?

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Speaker 2: Like they all go the same plan.

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Speaker 1: Go to the freak idiot.

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Speaker 2: No, that's really nice.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, I need to go.

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Speaker 2: I'm going. I'm going. We were in Las Vegas and

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Speaker 2: And we were like, ha ha, let's walk around like joking, joking, joking,

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Speaker 2: But that's crazy.

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Speaker 3: is there?

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Speaker 1: Totally.

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Speaker 3: It's like you have two meetings to keep track of.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's like her in house labs. She every month

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Speaker 2: Yeah. There was a point when I was trying there

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Speaker 1: Not one of them said boys, pause up, hold on.

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Speaker 2: Do you wint have I check out this store really quick?

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Speaker 3: Very like all the way homes.

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Speaker 1: Have you been to Vegas. Nope, do you have any interest? Nope,

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Speaker 2: Well, this is again sort of how business people aren't real.

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Speaker 2: Because I'm like, wait, everything is just I'm the only

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: perfect insult. And I think I learned it late and

446
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Speaker 1: I don't want to say it because I seem so

447
00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,640
Speaker 1: dated if if I say it, but it is true

448
00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:43,040
Speaker 1: that there are MPCs in the world.

449
00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,160
Speaker 2: And I want to say everything's relative. You know, your

450
00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,840
Speaker 2: crumb could be a cookie size to us.

451
00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,040
Speaker 1: And why I sort of inherently trust you. I feel

452
00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:53,119
Speaker 1: like they're like, no, well, I remember when I first

453
00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,840
Speaker 1: sort of became aware of you. I learned that you

454
00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:57,960
Speaker 1: went to the University of Chicago, and I have an

455
00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,199
Speaker 1: early memory of someone being like, the only university with

456
00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,840
Speaker 1: smart people is the University of Chicago. And so now

457
00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:06,879
Speaker 1: whenever I hear I don't even remember who told me that,

458
00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,440
Speaker 1: but whenever I hear that someone went to you, I'm like, oh,

459
00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:13,040
Speaker 1: so they're like, it's like this krem de la creme. Intellectually,

460
00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:13,600
Speaker 1: it's like how.

461
00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,520
Speaker 2: I think Ricky Martin's the best thinger in the world.

462
00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,200
Speaker 3: I really wanted to go to Northwestern to do to

463
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Speaker 3: major in television, and I was actually, well.

464
00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,000
Speaker 1: You are you need a degree to work in television.

465
00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:25,840
Speaker 2: A lot of people will tell you that it's.

466
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Speaker 1: It's really active TV degree.

467
00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:32,320
Speaker 3: I they have like radio TV foam, and I applied

468
00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,200
Speaker 3: this is so boring, but I applied early decision didn't

469
00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,800
Speaker 3: get in. Sobbed taped my rejection letter in like a

470
00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:43,520
Speaker 3: psychopathic way, like to the ceiling of my bedroom and

471
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Speaker 3: be like wake up and stare at it and be

472
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Speaker 3: like like like I will make this story.

473
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Speaker 1: Okay, So this is why I go into Momi. For

474
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Speaker 1: you is a really tough experience.

475
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Speaker 3: And my parents, my parents were really the ones because

476
00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:58,720
Speaker 3: my parents are teachers, and they were they were the

477
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Speaker 3: ones who were like didn't even know. They were like

478
00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:02,960
Speaker 3: you really have to like and they were like obviously

479
00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:07,400
Speaker 3: like being crazy about my application totally blah and uh

480
00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:09,440
Speaker 3: So then I kind of I kind of went there,

481
00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,280
Speaker 3: not reluctantly, but but then when I got there, I

482
00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:13,320
Speaker 3: was like I love it here.

483
00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:15,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, got into it.

484
00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:16,879
Speaker 2: Well that's good at least.

485
00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:18,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, good job.

486
00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,320
Speaker 3: But just to say I was trying. I was trying.

487
00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:23,760
Speaker 3: I was did to my and to me, I was like,

488
00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,400
Speaker 3: there's no one like I'm like, Julie Lee Dreyfuss didn't

489
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Speaker 3: go here. This school sucks. I really like dumb. I

490
00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,840
Speaker 3: came in sure like not you know what I mean.

491
00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:35,520
Speaker 2: Because you guys are all losers. None of you are

492
00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:36,920
Speaker 2: famous actors exactly.

493
00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,639
Speaker 3: Like everyone was like extremely brilliant, like I don't know,

494
00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:44,560
Speaker 3: they had all read like they'd all read like Fucau

495
00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,760
Speaker 3: in sixth grade. And I'm like coming in and I'm like,

496
00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,160
Speaker 3: by the way, the theater scenes kind of lacking things,

497
00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,120
Speaker 3: like I was really trying to and I had only

498
00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:58,040
Speaker 3: cared about Chicago for like improv theaters, and so I was,

499
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Speaker 3: can I worried from I'm from Maine?

500
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:01,760
Speaker 2: Really?

501
00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:02,480
Speaker 3: Yes?

502
00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:03,679
Speaker 2: Interesting?

503
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,560
Speaker 3: Yes? Almost is my topic?

504
00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,359
Speaker 2: Well yeah, yeah, I mean there's so much there. My

505
00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:15,520
Speaker 2: favorite thing about Maine is being like whereabouts no nothing? Yeah,

506
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,040
Speaker 2: I love to be like, so where in Maine? You

507
00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:18,840
Speaker 2: could say any words.

508
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:19,560
Speaker 3: It's the big one.

509
00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,160
Speaker 2: It's Portland, Okay, that one.

510
00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:22,920
Speaker 1: I've had some nice times in Portland.

511
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Speaker 2: Yeah Airport.

512
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,320
Speaker 1: Airport, Yeah, that's one of the classic airports.

513
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:27,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

514
00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,120
Speaker 3: Well they have like a big like where they used

515
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:31,440
Speaker 3: to have like that kind of they have like kind

516
00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,800
Speaker 3: of whales and boats hanging and like moose like hanging

517
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,960
Speaker 3: from the so it feels cozy, you know, you get there.

518
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, So why so you're obsessed with improv?

519
00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,640
Speaker 3: I was obsessed with improv. And it's sad to say

520
00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,120
Speaker 3: it's because of Bossy Pants.

521
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,280
Speaker 2: Really, I love boss.

522
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:52,719
Speaker 3: I read bossy Pants was like like my stuffed animal,

523
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,560
Speaker 3: Like I like, I really it really came out at

524
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,159
Speaker 3: an impressionable age for me, and I read it like

525
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:03,880
Speaker 3: thousands of times for reason, like so like its sickening.

526
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 3: It's like certain lines are still well I always. My

527
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 3: favorite part of bossy Pants that everyone forgets is that

528
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:16,159
Speaker 3: she has a story where she yells at her lesbian

529
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 3: prints and she says, get the dikes in the car,

530
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 3: and that's in print, and you can go back, find

531
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Speaker 3: your copy, find your coffee, go to the chack.

532
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 1: I mean, get the dikes in the car. That's merch.

533
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 2: I mean that's merch. She like she would say that. Yeah,

534
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,200
Speaker 2: Like I'm sort of like, good for you for being

535
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:33,200
Speaker 2: honest putting it in print.

536
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:34,920
Speaker 1: I agree.

537
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 3: I think it was the first time I read the word,

538
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 3: oh my god, Like I never like no one had

539
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,560
Speaker 3: ever said that because man is straight, Like I didn't,

540
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 3: I didn't really have I didn't know.

541
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,160
Speaker 2: What's complicated is like when you get into the rural Northeast,

542
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 2: it does become quite lesbian.

543
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 3: As well, I know, but like no one says the

544
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 3: word like it's just kind of like it's just kind

545
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 3: of like yeah, like Pam is living in the woods.

546
00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,919
Speaker 3: She's like she's clearly less. Even no one says the

547
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,400
Speaker 3: word correct me if I'm wrong.

548
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,440
Speaker 1: To me, I'm like, there are a lot of lesbians

549
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:08,880
Speaker 1: and even gay guys occasionally, but there isn't community. Am

550
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 1: I wrong to say? Like, I don't think of Maine

551
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,160
Speaker 1: as like, I'm sure there are a couple of gay bars,

552
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 1: but I don't think of it as like, oh, the

553
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 1: whole group is getting together and they're all doing an activity.

554
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:22,679
Speaker 1: It is like couples living miles away from one another. Yes,

555
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 1: and sort of like maybe cooking math.

556
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 3: George, it's my home. Yeah, sure, I'm I feel like,

557
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 3: is that your experience, myth or what?

558
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, yeah you.

559
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 3: Would say that. Yeah, certainly there's people off in the woods,

560
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 3: like doing their own thing. They're kind of like I'm

561
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 3: the like I am the leader of my own world

562
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,120
Speaker 3: over here. Yeah, but I I yeah, I do feel

563
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 3: like there are lots of lesbians, but yeah, I would

564
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 3: never know because they blend in their like scenery, like

565
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 3: I took me along. Like now when I go home,

566
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm like hyper aware.

567
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 1: And I totally like get the decks in the car.

568
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 3: I like get the decks in the car, but I

569
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 3: would love to see. I think it would be amazing

570
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 3: if you could, like, like in animals before an earthquake,

571
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 3: if you could like do some sort of like sound

572
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,919
Speaker 3: or call or alarm that only lesbians could hear, and

573
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 3: you could like just stand in a field and like

574
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,679
Speaker 3: all these lesbians would come out of the woods.

575
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,160
Speaker 1: Oh wouldn't that be great? And then they could find

576
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 1: and then you wouldn't need like targeted advertising on Instagram

577
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,920
Speaker 1: that you pay fifty dollars a day for for no reason,

578
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:27,679
Speaker 1: doesn't do anything.

579
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, I would love to. Like I feel

580
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 3: like it's sad because I wish, I wish I knew

581
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 3: more lesbians when I was a kid, and I'm like,

582
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 3: I would love to find them, but they are so deep.

583
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're far in there and on.

584
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:46,959
Speaker 3: Their properties like down you know, Sandy Beach Roads, whatever.

585
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:48,919
Speaker 3: But it's like you can't They're not going to be

586
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,639
Speaker 3: out in the light of day, Like they might go

587
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 3: grocery shopping in the morning, but then they're like home

588
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,120
Speaker 3: the rest of the day, cooking with the dogs.

589
00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 2: Like I do feel when I go to Misha's parents

590
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 2: it's upstate. He was very far Upstate New York and

591
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 2: there's this dive bar we go to and there's always

592
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 2: a surprising amount of lesbians there in a way where

593
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 2: I'm like wait what Like like I'm like, wait, everyone,

594
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,880
Speaker 2: like you guys all chill here. This is crazy cool?

595
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 1: Wait what what is crazy about?

596
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,199
Speaker 2: Well? I'm just like, maybe maybe you need to like

597
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 2: find the local bar that people go to.

598
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 1: That Oh yeah they're there, yea, yeah, go to the

599
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 1: bar of them.

600
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 3: Now, there's this one like really awesome leather bar in

601
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 3: Portland that has like the oldest leather gaze ever. But

602
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 3: I've never seen lesbian there and it's really like it's

603
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 3: really like sixty plus guys.

604
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 4: Sure full like Sam is writing it down.

605
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm wondering if I've already been.

606
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 3: It's like it's like the only one I.

607
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 2: Think I.

608
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 3: Probably I'm actually forgetting it's a cross whatever. It's in

609
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:53,479
Speaker 3: logflow square.

610
00:25:53,920 --> 00:26:00,920
Speaker 2: Sure, sure, I don't know. That's my amazing take.

611
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:02,159
Speaker 1: Should we do it for a segment?

612
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 2: I think we should. So. Basically, our first segment is

613
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 2: called straight Shooters, And in this segment, I'm going to

614
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 2: ask you a serious rapidfire questions to gage your familiarity

615
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 2: with incomplicity and straight culture. It's basically this thing or

616
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 2: this other thing, and the only rule is you can't

617
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 2: ask any followup questions or will scream so louditude you're

618
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 2: going to want to move to the damn woods. Okay, ready, Yes,

619
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 2: Tate mcray or Tate modern same.

620
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 1: Modern, relevant conversation. Yeah, call your girlfriend or I love Garfield.

621
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 3: Oh, call your girlfriend.

622
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,959
Speaker 2: Income inequality or findom sexuality.

623
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: Finndom sexuality, the boy is mine? Or yeah, tap is fine?

624
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:57,439
Speaker 2: Yes, life expectancy or wife respect me?

625
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 3: Please, wife respect me? Please?

626
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: Affordable housing or no, thank you? Just browsing?

627
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 3: No, thank you, just browsing.

628
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 2: A missed opportunity or pissed off at you and me.

629
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:11,640
Speaker 3: Missed opportunity.

630
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: Oh, lacking media literacy or backing the Confederacy.

631
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 3: Oh god, well, lacking media literacy.

632
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 1: Oh interesting, huhh, this is interesting. You know, after our

633
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 1: House of Gaga Las Vegas visit, I feel even more

634
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,400
Speaker 1: compelled to rank someone's performance on a scale of zero

635
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: to one thousand, more than ever. Now, more than ever

636
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 1: it is important to numerically, and I just want to say,

637
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: we've been accused of giving people two high scores recently,

638
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:39,199
Speaker 1: have we?

639
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 2: Yeah?

640
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:41,360
Speaker 1: I don't think this is the time to go low

641
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 1: because I think that was a perfectly lovely performance. That

642
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 1: would be very reaction that would be very reaction. Yes, exactly.

643
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 1: I even think we should do anti reactionary and go

644
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 1: even higher than we normally would.

645
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 2: I think a thousand doves.

646
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 1: A thousand doves. Wow, that's huge for.

647
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 3: You, real huge.

648
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just come and rely. Yeah I could feel that.

649
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 1: No, you are very relaxed.

650
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 3: Thank you.

651
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 1: Is that something you cultivate?

652
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:14,239
Speaker 3: I don't know. I just I don't know how to

653
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 3: be relaxed. How I got this way?

654
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 2: But I I think maybe you were born.

655
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: No, you were.

656
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 3: You know what is so awesome that? I mean, this

657
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 3: is something many people have said before. But it's just

658
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 3: like it's like she's straight.

659
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: No, totally, No, It's it's amazing. Not only is she straight,

660
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,880
Speaker 1: but she she is the most half hearted. Like one

661
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 1: time said she was by and then I was like,

662
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: you guys are doing by rasure. No, she is fully

663
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 1: a straight woman who went to n YU.

664
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's so straight. She's so straight, and like she

665
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 3: is down for learning about everyone else, but she's she's

666
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 3: not at the end of the day, like she wants

667
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 3: a man at home.

668
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: Well not just that, but I would argue, again, I'm

669
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 1: a huge fan, you know, I would love for her

670
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: to come on the pod. I would argue when she

671
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: made Born this Way, that type of language was already outdated,

672
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: Like a cool girl that went to NYU during that

673
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 1: time would not do Born this Way language.

674
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing about it, George. It was christ

675
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 2: like she was sacrificing her coolness to be so blame

676
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 2: for us.

677
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: You know, she was very much like she's like, I've

678
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: seen what cool is. This one's for Wisconsin. Yeah, Like

679
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: I remember even at the time. I mean, obviously I'm

680
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 1: a little bit older than you, but at the time,

681
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: I was in college and I was like very involved

682
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 1: in the sort of LGBTQ plus activism scene, and we

683
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: were all very much the whole thing was being like

684
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: the Born this Way narrative is conservative. It's like trying

685
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: to prove you're worthy by saying, oh, I can't help it. Like,

686
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: in fact, it's much more liberating and empowering to be

687
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: like anyone can self determine whichever way they see fit,

688
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: whether it's gender, sexuality or whatever.

689
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 3: And by the way, I don't know when I went

690
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 3: to school the same conversation happening about born this Way,

691
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 3: so like they're still working out that's what college just four,

692
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 3: I like literally would be like born this Way does

693
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 3: scorus first?

694
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess it's probably still happening. I think now

695
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: it's just I feel like then it was happening for

696
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 1: gay and now it's happening for trans.

697
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, because like born this Way was like that was

698
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 3: a phrase. I was like that she just picked up on,

699
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 3: like she just kind of absorbed that.

700
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was like walking through teachings. I love that.

701
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

702
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: Wait, I actually have a question. Literally, I now can't

703
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: remember the phrase born this Way pre Gaga. What was

704
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: the status of that? Is that something people would say?

705
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: Was it like a catchphrase? I think it started with Neanderthals.

706
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 3: No no, no, I signed in the Roaring twenties.

707
00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 2: Why are you dancing like that? Sugar?

708
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: But were people going around being like I was born

709
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: this way? Or did she invent that?

710
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 2: No? Yeah, crazy invented that.

711
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: You guys are being so rude.

712
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 3: It's like I wish I knew, I wish you guys.

713
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 2: I don't know when it was said for the first time.

714
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 2: I don't think we were saying.

715
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 3: Sam, I don't know, I don't know.

716
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I didn't know I was gonna get

717
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 2: quizzed today.

718
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: I also love that in the lyrics, it's I was

719
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: born this way.

720
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 3: She's playing a gay character so that we can you know,

721
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 3: similar to you go to the theater, you see someone

722
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 3: doing her role so that you can experience Catharsis.

723
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: Like she's doing kabuki.

724
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 3: All feel our darkest.

725
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: Thought totally, our darkest hearts, which are I was born

726
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: this way?

727
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was born this way.

728
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 2: Oh no, Well, it's always my favorite. My favorite thing

729
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 2: with her, of course, is being like I'm such a

730
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 2: fucked up, weirdo loser like you guys right, It's like, hey,

731
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 2: stop that, don't say that about no completely, I'm such

732
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 2: a fucking loser, pervert freak with.

733
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: No Yeah, and the audience is like gay teams with

734
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: their moms. Yeah cool. Oh, sorry to bring this is

735
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: just like SUD fifty four.

736
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 2: Sorry to bring up Vegas one more time, but like

737
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 2: Gaga is one thing we went to see Lord.

738
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: We saw Lord in Vegas.

739
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 2: We saw Lord in Vegas, which was to die for it.

740
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 3: I've never seen a lie.

741
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: Do you care about Lord?

742
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 3: Yes?

743
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 2: You should see because she's to die for it them.

744
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 3: Let's talk about it.

745
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 2: Let's talk about it. Well, well mostly, but the thing

746
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 2: I wanted to say is there was a point where

747
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 2: Lord is like duct tape this, I mean the DUC tape.

748
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: But when the m duct tape is on, duct tape

749
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: stays on during sex.

750
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 2: No.

751
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 3: I just love how celebrities are like, I'm not saying

752
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 3: non binary, it's weird, Like like they're like, non binary

753
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 3: is gross, weird and a bad word.

754
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting, it's not. I think it's it's

755
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: specifically the words. It's specifically the word non binary. And

756
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: the words they them are quote unquote out of style.

757
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 3: Well there they are like they are terrible.

758
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: It's like it's it sucks. That's no obviously, But then

759
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: it has not changed the identity. The identity still exists,

760
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: and all those people that are being like he Ama

761
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,479
Speaker 1: lam still believe it. They're just like, oh God, can

762
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: we come up with a new one.

763
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

764
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 3: It's like I say, I'm to them and I literally

765
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 3: wish I had a cool word.

766
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 1: Can I add something? Speaking of things that were trending

767
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 1: in college when you were in college, did was there

768
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: any inkling left of g as a pronoun like z h.

769
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: That was one of the first when I was in

770
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: college and people were still figuring out, yes, figuring out

771
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: they them and they hadn't landed on day them. Another

772
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: option was gizure.

773
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean I hear I obviously it's like I

774
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 3: hear that. I feel like I've read about people.

775
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 1: I've never yeah the story never met never met as

776
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 1: jesuer No, yeah, me neither.

777
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 3: I think what was more and was just like she

778
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 3: that he like that was what was like. People would

779
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 3: just be like, oh oh and that was more just

780
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 3: like so, I feel like people had dropped gesure as

781
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 3: much or there's just like faith faith.

782
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 2: I've never heard that, nor like faith. I'm sorry faith,

783
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 2: and you're.

784
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 1: Like no, no, no faith, That's what I said.

785
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 5: Not faith faith, yes, like done away, Yes, okay, she

786
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 5: she she is to me, well, she has the masculine

787
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 5: in her woman.

788
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 2: Day she's a man, just like Lord.

789
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 3: Exactly exactly what Lord did this thing?

790
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 2: I wanted to say where she was like tonight, it's

791
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 2: for the freaks, and it was like it wasn't for

792
00:34:58,640 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 2: the This is so normal.

793
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 3: I always think about that Chris Fleming joke. That's like

794
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 3: Saint Vincent thinks that she's weird, but she's actually like

795
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 3: her whole, her whole like weirdness is like carefully vetted

796
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 3: by like n Yu gods, and there's no real risk.

797
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: Yes quite, I could.

798
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 3: No, no, sorry, Chris, I'm sorry, but it's really I

799
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:18,439
Speaker 3: always see it's a great joke.

800
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: Sat Vincent is one of the most like fascinating figures

801
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 1: culturally speaking, and also kind of in my personal life.

802
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: I feel like my you can track my thoughts on her,

803
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: my thoughts on her map directly to like my evolution

804
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 1: as a person, you know what I mean?

805
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, sure, it's sort of like you're you're political.

806
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 1: There was just and I just want to say, like

807
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: I still I actually recently saw her sort of randomly

808
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 1: cashoe open for someone else I saw, but I I

809
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 1: saw her a bunch of times when I was younger.

810
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: I used to think she was like the coolest person.

811
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: And then there was one day where I truly woke

812
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: up and it's like it hit me. I was like,

813
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 1: she's a complete fraud, and I like haven't been and

814
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: I don't actually think that. I think she's obviously very talented,

815
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: but like I haven't been able to unsee that opinion.

816
00:35:58,040 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 2: I think you and a lot of people.

817
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, like and I think a lot of people. Did

818
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 1: you go through that with her?

819
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I wasn't. Yeah, I feel like I

820
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 3: came to her later and I was, I mean, New

821
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 3: York is in New York without you love obviously big

822
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 3: when you're sad.

823
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 1: Totally, but that was honest.

824
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 2: But to me, that was the turning. That was the

825
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 2: beginning of.

826
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 3: Did you think that song was like crin yes You're Dead?

827
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 2: Yeah?

828
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, what the hell, Like

829
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: I like that song, but it was and the references

830
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: are like tourist attractions. It was like we're going to

831
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 1: like the NYU building up on ask her?

832
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I liked her like eat like her m moment.

833
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess it's it's not maduction. Yeah. I went

834
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:47,919
Speaker 1: to that tour. It was great.

835
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

836
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that was like the last I feel.

837
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 1: Like, like fun totally. I agree that was now like.

838
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 3: It's like this stuff with it. She's like I can't

839
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 3: stop talking about how her dad's rich and but he's

840
00:36:58,840 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 3: in jail.

841
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I do think I get what she was

842
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: doing with that.

843
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm looking at you like you're making up.

844
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, do you know leaving this?

845
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 2: No, I haven't heard about this.

846
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: Her dad was in jail for white color crime and

847
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,240
Speaker 1: then got out of jail, and that's why the album

848
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 1: was called Daddy's Home. Oh, but then she was also like,

849
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: it's not funny. But also Daddy's Home was also being

850
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: a little fade done away. I thought I thought she

851
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 1: was being Lord wink and microdocing m Yeah, I thought

852
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:26,439
Speaker 1: she was being Lord.

853
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 3: No, it's up with Lord's parents stuff, because it's like

854
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 3: and this, it's like it's like she's her dad's intense,

855
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 3: but her mom has trauma.

856
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:35,959
Speaker 1: Her mom Like.

857
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,240
Speaker 2: That, can I make it any more obvious?

858
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 1: Her mom? You told me this?

859
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 3: Herm Her mom's okay.

860
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: But it's like in New Zealand, everyone's kind of a

861
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: I like the line.

862
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 3: My mom's trauma. Yeah, what my mama's trauma. That was

863
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 3: really good.

864
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, that was really good.

865
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 3: I wonder what happened to her mom. But I know

866
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 3: I'm not supposed to ask.

867
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:58,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be rude.

868
00:37:58,560 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 1: You meet Lord, You're like, don want to ask her

869
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 1: to have an her mom don't know what? Don't know?

870
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 3: When these artists are like singing so much and being

871
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 3: vague and you're just like.

872
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: Oh, I know you're kind of like, let's where is

873
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: the spark notes?

874
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 3: Yeah?

875
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 2: Well literally that's what like genius is supposed to be

876
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 2: the lyric and be like her mom was yelled at

877
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 2: a guy? Yeah, in two she was walking down the

878
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 2: street and a guy yelled outside the car.

879
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 3: What if her mom was also? What if someone yelled

880
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 3: at her mom? You walk like a bitch and trauma the.

881
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 2: Curse of her family? Everyone in that family walks like

882
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 2: a pitch.

883
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 1: You think walking like a bitch is learned or is

884
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 1: born this way? Behavior? And and follow up question? And

885
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: I want to answer both. Which narrative would be more

886
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: liberating to you? If walking like a bitch was innate

887
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: or if you were able to choose it.

888
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 3: I think I think if it's learned, it's more liberating, Okay,

889
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,919
Speaker 3: And because yeah, it's like it's like what you're gonna

890
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 3: argue and you're gonna.

891
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,760
Speaker 2: Say that is it learned? Learned? If it's learned, it's liberating.

892
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 2: But is it learned?

893
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 3: I think when you're this is my theory of being gay?

894
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 3: I can't wait to.

895
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 2: Say the turn the volume up.

896
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 4: Folks, I think it's my mess for words for Trump.

897
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:19,760
Speaker 4: Turn he hate with that, Okay, go ahead.

898
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 1: I started to that though. That was kind of crazy.

899
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 2: That was cool.

900
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 3: This next message is Donald Jay. I think. Here's what

901
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 3: I think. When you're a baby, you look at people

902
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 3: and you're like that person's school and from the day

903
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 3: your baby, you want to be like them.

904
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: Oh so your influences are subconscious from when you're a child.

905
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 1: It's like a cool uncle quote aunt, like someone who

906
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: saw because.

907
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,879
Speaker 3: It's undeniable that, Like I feel like it's like undeniable

908
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,760
Speaker 3: of that, like gay guys only look at women as babies.

909
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 2: I feel like, sorry, you know what's crazy. Here's the thing.

910
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 1: Literally, when I was a baby, my dad I have

911
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 1: for like for like a year or two when I

912
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 1: was a baby, had a job in a different country

913
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: and I didn't see him as much. And I actually think,

914
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: and George is gay now and I'm gonna and I

915
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: love my dad and we have a good relationship, but

916
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: there's there's like a slight distance that is from that time.

917
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: It's not and he was what I rest my case, No, yeah,

918
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 1: how about you?

919
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 2: Well, you know this gets really complicated because obviously my

920
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 2: mother and father were both in the picture the equal amount.

921
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,879
Speaker 2: But get this, I had a sister.

922
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: I had, and he had an older sister.

923
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 2: An older sister.

924
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 3: This theory mostly applies to gay guys. I don't know how.

925
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I was also, like, on top of that,

926
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 1: partly raised by both my grandmother's. I mean it was

927
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: matriarchy boots.

928
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, So.

929
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 1: Are just men everywhere?

930
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 3: Okay, I know, I know for me, I'm like, I

931
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,919
Speaker 3: don't know. For me, I can say I was like read,

932
00:40:58,080 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 3: I was. I love GQ.

933
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: Early on, Yeah, I love reading Details magazine, Body training.

934
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 3: Yes, Like I remember going to visit my grandparents when

935
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 3: I was like probably like six or seven and being

936
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 3: at the airport and my mom is like, you can

937
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 3: pick one magazine and when we go visit grandparents, and

938
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 3: I would pick GQ and just like look at the watches,

939
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 3: look at the blazers.

940
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 2: Interesting.

941
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 3: And then it became a thing where like every time

942
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 3: I traveled, I wanted cheek.

943
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: So that is so amazing. Little men's were influencers.

944
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and mine was that I was obsessed with Mermaids

945
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 2: because I like the way that, Yeah.

946
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 3: So cheeky was my Mermaids and for me, like my

947
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,760
Speaker 3: Mermaid was like Blazer with hoodie, Like from.

948
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:48,439
Speaker 2: What I was, that's so bad Blazer. He really did

949
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 2: make a splash for a while. Yeah, across all spectrums. Yeah.

950
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 1: Well then it reached its peak during the sort of

951
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: Justin Bieber era.

952
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 3: Oh wow, oh my god. Yeah, people were like a

953
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 3: he would were like a tuxedo jack, like it was

954
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:02,959
Speaker 3: crazy what he was hearing.

955
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: The When I think of Justin, I understand that Justin

956
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 1: Bieber has become a huge star and as an adult

957
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 1: and is.

958
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 2: Like I'm glad you understand it is like.

959
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: And is obviously like someone at the level of like

960
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,720
Speaker 1: whatever Drake or someone else that's like a big male

961
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: pop star. But the early Bieber imagery is so strong

962
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 1: to me that when I think of Justin Bieber, I

963
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 1: think of a little kid with the with the hair soup.

964
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: I have not whereas like when I think of Demi Lovado,

965
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: I think of Emilevado. Today, I don't think of a

966
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: Disney star. But I have not updated my opinions on

967
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 1: Justin Bieber and it's now been like twenty years. I

968
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: think I still think of him as a child.

969
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 2: I think it's the name, like literally the sound of

970
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 2: Bieber so Bieber, Like if you were like, I'm just

971
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 2: justin yeah, yeah, and then I'd be like, Okay, you're

972
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 2: a different guy.

973
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 3: Now you guys believe that thing. That's like, that's like

974
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 3: you're the age you get famous is the age is

975
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 3: the age you stop aging?

976
00:42:58,800 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 2: I love.

977
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: This is the problem, the problem, the problem with Taylor Swift.

978
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you do believe it, Yes, you believe.

979
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like you stop kind of like.

980
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 1: And your and it's just like your gender stops when

981
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 1: you are around men or women when you're a child,

982
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: and then your age stops when you become famous. Yeah,

983
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: but I do basically believe it.

984
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, That's why I'm like, I'm like, I think it

985
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 3: would be good to I think it's cool to get

986
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 3: famous at like.

987
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 1: Fifty, completely really cool, really.

988
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,919
Speaker 3: Cool to like have. Like there are certain actresses where

989
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 3: it's like they did not they were just they were

990
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 3: just literally trying for years and then they had their

991
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 3: first big starry girl on Broadway at fifty.

992
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: I mean I've never heard of these actresses. Think about

993
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: Olivia Coleman, I've never heard about that. Yeah, Like she

994
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 1: was consistently working, but she wasn't you wouldn't have known

995
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 1: the name Olivia Coleman ten years ago.

996
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I will say that comparison to that does

997
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 2: scare me because it's like, why not consistently working like

998
00:43:58,080 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 2: the idea of being like the.

999
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: Idea of like, I don't know, we were talking about you.

1000
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 2: Of course we're talking about ourselves. Of course we're talking

1001
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 2: about ourselves. Are we not pursuing a comedy? But I'm

1002
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 2: always like, like it's fun to look atsse people who

1003
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 2: are like big stars and be like they barely had anything,

1004
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 2: just consistent TV work forever, just not a big starring role.

1005
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 2: And I'm like, well I'm behind on that.

1006
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,879
Speaker 3: Then sometimes I feel like people who aren't like who

1007
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 3: aren't trying to be famous and who aren't sick, well

1008
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 3: me like and it is so it is like one

1009
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 3: of the most like humiliating like experiences when like someone

1010
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 3: who has who is just like a teacher, like they're

1011
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,280
Speaker 3: there work or they're like working, yeah.

1012
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, say another quession. I want to do it.

1013
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 3: They're working farm.

1014
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 2: Grow up.

1015
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 3: I'm like thinking, what my friends, do you have farmer friends? Yes?

1016
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 3: And main yeah, yeah, one of my friends was just

1017
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 3: managing a farm for the summer that was their job,

1018
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 3: and that.

1019
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: Could be main but it could also be like you

1020
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 1: Chicago querdo.

1021
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. But I feel like it's like like people

1022
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 3: will be like, oh, do you want to be famous?

1023
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 3: Like have you ever been asked that?

1024
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 2: No?

1025
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 3: No, really never no, never want to ask that.

1026
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:18,760
Speaker 2: But I feel like I'm being normal the time.

1027
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 3: Something that like, because I feel like people who don't

1028
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 3: want fame are like why do you want that? Or

1029
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 3: like they're like they're like so they're like in their head,

1030
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 3: they're like, oh, you're doing shows you want to be famous?

1031
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 3: And then it is like it's so embarrassing because it's

1032
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 3: like you set the quiet part out loud.

1033
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,919
Speaker 1: Like well, it's like when people are like I could

1034
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: never people often will say like, stand up to me

1035
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 1: is the single hardest thing I can think of, Like

1036
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: the idea of like being on a stage alone and talking.

1037
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,280
Speaker 1: It's like people will be like, I can imagine myself

1038
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: like being an actor, being whatever, but stand up is

1039
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 1: like the hardest thing. And even people in the arts,

1040
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: like people who are like successful actors or directors or

1041
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: something will be like, that's the one thing I couldn't

1042
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 1: never do, and you're like so you need to flip that.

1043
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: It's not that it's a challenging thing that I stepped

1044
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:07,879
Speaker 1: up to the plate to do. It's that I am

1045
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: so ill it is the only outlet that can like

1046
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 1: kind of like calm down the inner thoughts.

1047
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, absolutely. Yeah. It's like it's like you don't

1048
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 3: understand from me this it's born this way is born.

1049
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 1: This No the idea that I would ever the idea

1050
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: that I would ever aspire to it, and and but

1051
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: but not naturally be drawn to it and be like okay,

1052
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 1: like you have to sit down, write your material and

1053
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:32,879
Speaker 1: get your stage tribe. It's like that is not how

1054
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:33,760
Speaker 1: this works, sweetheart.

1055
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, should we do our topic?

1056
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1057
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, yes, is your straight topic today? And

1058
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 2: what's straight about it?

1059
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 3: Okay? So my topic is sympathy. And for me what

1060
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 3: this is is to me, I feel like I see

1061
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:58,839
Speaker 3: this a lot in like, Okay, if you're in, if

1062
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 3: you're going to your friend for advice, have an issue,

1063
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 3: maybe it's a dating issue, maybe it's a personal issue,

1064
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 3: family whatever. It's like to me, the first reaction from

1065
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 3: straight people if you bring them any kind of negativity

1066
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 3: is just like sympathy, which to me is like actually

1067
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 3: they just it's like the it's like the shallowest way

1068
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 3: of engaging with that negativity. And meanwhile, I feel like

1069
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 3: if I bring an issue to my gay friends, it's

1070
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 3: like they're criticizing me. They're able to immediately like dive in,

1071
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Like it's kind of like

1072
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 3: keeping like that, like suffering at like a distance almost,

1073
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 3: and gay people are more like, well, here's what I think,

1074
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 3: and here's how I relate, and here's it and and

1075
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 3: here's I want to talk about it. And it's like

1076
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 3: beyond empathy. It's like also kind of self absorbed, self involved.

1077
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: Well, gay people start performing, yeah, gay people.

1078
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 3: Start performing, but I think there's more of like a

1079
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 3: relish in and straight people are I'm like, oh that's sad.

1080
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 2: It's like dealing with the sick. Like, yes, people are

1081
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 2: like I'm not afraid to get sick. Yeah I have work. Yeah,

1082
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:11,399
Speaker 2: please don't give me that.

1083
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 1: Well, gay people, it's like it's like they're on an

1084
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 1: imminent improv show and your thing is a prompt. You're like,

1085
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 1: I'm going through a breakup, like break up, got it?

1086
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 1: I was going through a breakup ones, And then they

1087
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 1: like go into a story. Yeah, do you feel like

1088
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 1: I want to get into sort of like examples of

1089
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 1: phrases that are relevant to this, like I'm here if

1090
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 1: you need anything, like the most empty promise that is

1091
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 1: a very straight thing to me, or like yes, or

1092
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: even not to say the obvious, but even something as

1093
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: simple as like you're in my thoughts.

1094
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 2: I was about to say, thinking of you.

1095
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: Thinking of you thoughts and prayers, praying for you. Yeah,

1096
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: so just the most passive. It's just literally being like

1097
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: here's a bow, I'm putting it on your wound.

1098
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 3: To me, it's like when notres On burned and then

1099
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 3: all straight people are post pray for Paris or just

1100
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 3: like to me, it's like Instagram graphic of sad thing

1101
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 3: heart yeah, okart emoji and then nothing else.

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00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 1: So basically, sympathy is like on a personal person level,

1103
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 1: reacting with a bumper sticker. Someone tells you their trauma

1104
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,919
Speaker 1: and then you give them a pre written greeting card

1105
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 1: and you like, hope this helps.

1106
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and yeah, you're you're literally using like canned phrases,

1107
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 3: like you're using stock phrases. It's like an inability to

1108
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,839
Speaker 3: like actually like, to me, a big thing with straight

1109
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,280
Speaker 3: people is like they do not want to live in reality.

1110
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 3: Like like to me, they are even more delusional in

1111
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 3: some ways because to them, like they are not questioning,

1112
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 3: like it's just like this is how it is, this

1113
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,439
Speaker 3: is how it is. And I feel like this way

1114
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 3: where I mean. I I mean, I feel like my

1115
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 3: friends are like, I don't want to come to you

1116
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 3: five relationship problems because you're gonna you're gonna have opinions.

1117
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 3: And I'm like, of course, I feel like I see

1118
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 3: my straight girl friends in their straight relationships and it

1119
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 3: is so the scariest stories I've ever heard. Its years,

1120
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 3: it's years of this and it's like they come to me.

1121
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,240
Speaker 3: Everyone else is like the other street people are giving advice.

1122
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 3: That's like I'm so sorry, babe, Like I'm here, like

1123
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 3: just like text me, I'm around whatever. And it's I'm like,

1124
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 3: we need to do mutual aid, like we need, we need,

1125
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,399
Speaker 3: we need, you need to move out, like we need

1126
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 3: to do we need you know what I mean. Like

1127
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm more like, let's look at the reality.

1128
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 3: This is untenable, and straight people are like, no, it's

1129
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 3: how it is. I gotta go.

1130
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 2: I have a theory I have a theory I want

1131
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 2: to propose. Yeah, I could be wrong, of course. Do

1132
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 2: you think that so straight people are bad at like

1133
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 2: hearing dealing with bad news in a real way. I

1134
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 2: think gay people are bad at dealing with good news

1135
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 2: in a real way. Yes, Like if you're like I

1136
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 2: got if you're like I got a job, they're like

1137
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 2: amazing back to me, like yeah, like they cannot hear

1138
00:50:59,120 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 2: good news.

1139
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: This is on a See how I felt when Zorn

1140
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 1: was elected. I was like, you guys need to relax.

1141
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

1142
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, like I voted for him, it's good, but I'm like,

1143
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, everyone needs to shut up. This is embarrassing.

1144
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I always feel like get killed during my family

1145
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 3: and my parents are like, oh, like I'm excited about this.

1146
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, actually, your reality. We're gonna have to

1147
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 3: keep them acountable, you know. I think it is like

1148
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 3: of course, it's it's one of those things where it's

1149
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 3: like gay people are better at dealing with bad news

1150
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 3: for good and bad reasons. Like it's like it's like

1151
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 3: some of it is like oh wow, we've like learned

1152
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,879
Speaker 3: and we're and we're we're more like grounded in some ways,

1153
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 3: and then in some ways it is like we're also self.

1154
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 2: Involved, like addicted to like saving. Yeah, Like it's like, well,

1155
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 2: I don't want to be around that. I don't have

1156
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:47,839
Speaker 2: to talk.

1157
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 1: It's a very straight mentality to believe the default is

1158
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: good and so therefore when something bad happens, it's sort

1159
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 1: of is a shock to the system, whereas I think

1160
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 1: it is a very gay thing to kind of assume

1161
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 1: things are bad, right and not trust the good when

1162
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:04,879
Speaker 1: it does happen.

1163
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 2: Right, When someone selling me good news, I'm like, so,

1164
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 2: what are you lying about? Yeah?

1165
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And I also think I think we talked

1166
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: about this spot, but like there is a I think

1167
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: gay people think bad is inherently more interesting than good.

1168
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 1: It's kind of like, yeah, that's.

1169
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 3: Sort of the lets we hear that, we hear dollar science.

1170
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,919
Speaker 2: Yes, well, it's also I think we can sell them. Yeah,

1171
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 2: either you get packages. I think we can sell this.

1172
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: Like they're more drawn to critique than to praise. Yeah,

1173
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,839
Speaker 1: they're very like it's very straight to be like, let

1174
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: people enjoy things. It's very gay to be like we

1175
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 1: should murder the creator of this television series.

1176
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 2: I okay, question for the group. So when it comes

1177
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 2: to sympathy versus empathy. Yeah, what's going on?

1178
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 1: I know this is one of those things that I've

1179
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 1: like never quite understood.

1180
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 2: I've never understood right now. I just think it literally

1181
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 2: feels like empathy is just like in vogue, like it's

1182
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 2: like more invoked, but it's.

1183
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 1: Been but it's been invoked. Don't you think empathy is

1184
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 1: constantly having a moment. Yeah, it's been decades of people

1185
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 1: being like, it's about empathy.

1186
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:07,280
Speaker 3: I remember millions of millions of dollars have gone it millions.

1187
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 1: Well legitimately though, because it's a billion dollar in it

1188
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:14,879
Speaker 1: is fully a buzzword for products. Like I remember when

1189
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:16,359
Speaker 1: I was in grad school, there was like this other

1190
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 1: sort of like team within the department that was doing

1191
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:22,839
Speaker 1: documentary film stuff, and the trendy thing at the time

1192
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 1: was interactive documentary and also VR documentary, and the biggest

1193
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 1: buzzword was empathy. They were like, we're making a VR

1194
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 1: documentary about what it's like to be blind, and so

1195
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,320
Speaker 1: you like it like messes with your sense or whatever,

1196
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,720
Speaker 1: and that creates empathy for blind people. I was like, actually,

1197
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 1: what it does is it creates a line. At the

1198
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 1: Tribeca Film Festival, interactive booth where people are putting on

1199
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,760
Speaker 1: a VR headset and then they're like taking a picture

1200
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 1: with it.

1201
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, Yeah. I guess like people are always

1202
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 3: like sympathies, like you feel bad, and empathy is like

1203
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 3: you feel bad and you can imagine.

1204
00:53:58,600 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 2: You like really feel bad.

1205
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, you feel bad and you can use eye statements.

1206
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: Empathy is like you have multiple personality disorder and you're

1207
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 1: actually completely disassociating because someone told you that they are sad.

1208
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. Sympathy is like you're making me sad by being sad. Stop,

1209
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 2: and empathy is like whoa you are sad about that?

1210
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 2: I am sad?

1211
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 1: Maybe is the difference, like, yeah, is the difference that

1212
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 1: sympathy is almost like condescending. It's almost like you're in

1213
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:24,839
Speaker 1: a someone tells you I'm going through a breakup. You're

1214
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: being like, oh, sweetie, you're inherently in a position of power,

1215
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 1: and you're almost like, wow, you're suddenly my child that

1216
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 1: I'm taken care of, whereas empathy is like okay, I'm

1217
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 1: feeling it with you, like let's move through it together.

1218
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think I think empathy is more gay because

1219
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 3: it is like a going back. We're like oh away

1220
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 3: in for me, Like and I do think I do

1221
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 3: this all the time, and I have to and I

1222
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,399
Speaker 3: have to curb myself where like someone will be talking

1223
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 3: about like a breakup or something and I'm like, totally,

1224
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 3: so here's my history. Start to finish, like I'll like

1225
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 3: go through beat by beat, and then it's like I

1226
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:01,240
Speaker 3: get I completely forget what the other person's even talking about,

1227
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 3: Like I get so deep down memory, like in the

1228
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 3: middle of suddenly like wait, is this helping?

1229
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,839
Speaker 2: Like you're like going through intergenerational trauma. You're like, I'm

1230
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 2: in a war.

1231
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 1: I know my mom's trauma.

1232
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:16,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, sympathy is a Broadway show. Empathy is Sleep No More?

1233
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 1: Whoa sympathy is Hamilton? And empathy is Sleep No More?

1234
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah WHOA one isn't better than the other. Yeah,

1235
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:29,359
Speaker 2: you know one you're in when you're watching.

1236
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely absolutely yeah yeah.

1237
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. If you had to watch one of those every

1238
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:35,399
Speaker 1: single night for the rest of your life, which would

1239
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 1: you choose?

1240
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 3: Sleep no More?

1241
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 1: Well, ire Hamilton.

1242
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 3: You can't rest in sleep no More.

1243
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 2: You get to walk around. You can watch a different

1244
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 2: show every night. I think I've never seen it.

1245
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,760
Speaker 3: Wait, it has to be Hamilton or it's like any.

1246
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 1: Well, because I think those two are sort of emblement.

1247
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 1: Those those are both kind of like Obama era. Yeah,

1248
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 1: ten poles.

1249
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think sleep no More because you know, I

1250
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 3: mean alleged lee are supposed to be able to see

1251
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 3: different things, and there's like different things around every corner

1252
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 3: you get grabbed.

1253
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it could be kind.

1254
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 1: Of fun and you're there's like hot dancers.

1255
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 3: There's a really good episode of Law and Order SVU

1256
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 3: that takes place at a fake sleep home where someone

1257
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 3: like everyone's watching and assault happens in every No, it's

1258
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 3: part of the performance.

1259
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's awfu.

1260
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 3: It's actually so dark, but it's an amazing episode.

1261
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 1: There's a really great Girls episode about an interactive play.

1262
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 3: Oh, I know talking about Yeah, it's really good. Never

1263
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 3: got sold?

1264
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 2: What what what? Oh?

1265
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:41,720
Speaker 1: Never gets old?

1266
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 3: Never gets old?

1267
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:43,840
Speaker 1: Never got sold?

1268
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 2: Me too. I'm like, we are really miss hearing you

1269
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 2: in crazy ways.

1270
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 3: No, sorry, I'm no, it's so.

1271
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 1: What do you think about sympathy being a knife?

1272
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:57,839
Speaker 2: Oh, it needed to come up.

1273
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 3: And needed to come up. Well, yeah, I think it is.

1274
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 3: I think, of course, Yeah, I agree it is.

1275
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 1: I think it's very perceptive that it's a knife, and

1276
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 1: I actually think if that song is about Taylor Swift,

1277
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 1: I think Charlie's like, sympathy is a knife, and then

1278
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift is like I was actually being empathetic.

1279
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's yeah. I'm most like,

1280
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 3: what happened? She came up to her and she's like

1281
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 3: and she's like, you're not that famous, are you.

1282
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 2: She's like, oh, what is such? I hate it must

1283
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 2: hurt to be brune.

1284
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but it is so like I'm sure, I'm sure.

1285
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 3: I mean they're both jealous of each other, like.

1286
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, it's really well, it's Charlie jealous.

1287
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1288
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 3: I think Charlie maybe she's like she's about her own

1289
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 3: thing going on.

1290
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 1: I think it's implementing. I think Charlie sees the popularity

1291
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 1: of someone like Taylor and is like, this is everything

1292
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 1: that's wrong with the wild like she's she's it makes

1293
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 1: her upset on a more systemic level, but Taylor can

1294
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 1: only see things on a one to one level. She's like,

1295
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 1: you either love me or you hate me, And if

1296
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 1: you hate me, then I'm going to write album about you.

1297
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1298
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:09,919
Speaker 5: It's very it's like black and white totally black and white.

1299
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, she's literally.

1300
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 2: Wow, she's like a dog. Wow you heard it here first?

1301
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 1: Wow was she born that way?

1302
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1303
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 3: No, because she was frozen at.

1304
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she was frozen when she got famoused.

1305
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so pretty much that sympathy.

1306
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, any final thoughts on sympathy.

1307
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 3: I would just say, like I think to gay people like,

1308
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 3: let's let's try and do better at listening when something

1309
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 3: bad is happening and not going back to you. And

1310
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 3: also I think let's I do think it's so true

1311
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 3: of like gay people can't be happy for.

1312
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 1: Each other, you think so. But do you think straight

1313
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 1: people can? I guess yeah, I think.

1314
00:58:56,640 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 3: They can because they're like they're kind of like there's

1315
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 3: not like a sense, there's not like a sense of

1316
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 3: it's like we're all going to get it, like we're

1317
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 3: all going to heaven. That's the vibe, you know what

1318
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 3: I mean.

1319
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's enough to go around.

1320
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 3: I know gay people, it does feel like it's like.

1321
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're going to but but what about And I'm

1322
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 1: about to explore a sexist trope, so bear with me.

1323
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 2: You can't wait.

1324
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 1: The trope of like a girl girlfriend group, one of

1325
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 1: them gets married first you're jealous. Yeah, and again I

1326
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 1: know it's a trope. I'm not supporting it, but what

1327
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 1: do you think of it?

1328
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 3: And then they're jealous because they're like single, yeah.

1329
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 1: And they're not they're eating exactly and yeah exactly. They're

1330
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 1: like they're smiling, but there's blood coming out of their

1331
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 1: eyes and they're like, I'm so happy for you.

1332
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I do think like if you're getting rejected

1333
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 3: a lot, that that makes you a little bit more

1334
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 3: guy because you're just experiencing difficulty and what's supposed to

1335
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 3: be easy.

1336
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 1: I know, in many ways, being a single gal is

1337
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 1: gayer than being just like a gay guy.

1338
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, I like because your stigma relationship with it, Yes, exactly.

1339
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 1: Within the within the community of straight women. Uh, let's say,

1340
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 1: you know, sort of like sorority sorority type straight women

1341
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 1: living in the big city, all of them work in

1342
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 1: pr to be single in that community is more stigmatized

1343
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 1: than just being gang New York. No, it's true, like legitimately.

1344
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 2: That's why Gaga is allowed to talk about the LGBTQ

1345
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 2: plus community.

1346
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 1: Because as a single girl in New York, as a

1347
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 1: single blonde girl in New York, she is part of

1348
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 1: the plus.

1349
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 2: She's part of the plus. If that's not the plus,

1350
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is.

1351
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, but I but I really do feel that. Yeah,

1352
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 1: if you're at the baby shower, at the bat strap party,

1353
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 1: everyone else's couples, in your single and in your community,

1354
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 1: it's stigmatized to be single. Like you are sitting there

1355
01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 1: and you're like you're literally like the goth daughter at

1356
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 1: the family union.

1357
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's like it's like you're like, yeah, it's

1358
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 3: the world isn't fair, which I feel like is like

1359
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 3: you get that much quicker you're okay because you're like

1360
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 3: nothing's working. Like it's like it's like you're younger, it's

1361
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 3: like nothing's working. Like I remember kissing a guy and

1362
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 3: just being like unbroken. Like I was like, I was

1363
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 3: like this feels crazy. Like this feels so crazy, you

1364
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 3: know what I mean. And that is like I feel

1365
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 3: like if you go through that as a kid, you're

1366
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 3: just like you're just like, oh, you can't trust it,

1367
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 3: Like you can't trust that the things people say are

1368
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 3: going to be good are going.

1369
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 2: To be good.

1370
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 3: This is one of the most you get there and

1371
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 3: then they're not.

1372
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 2: No, it's I think also something you're pointing to. I've

1373
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 2: always found it so frustrating that like and surprising that

1374
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 2: attraction is literally real, like that you like, it is

1375
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 2: not chosen.

1376
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 1: It shocks, it does it makes you believe in God

1377
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 1: because surely there's someone out there looking out for me.

1378
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 2: Because you're like, I shouldn't this shouldn't feel better than that,

1379
01:01:57,640 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 2: Like it's all the same physical stuff. Yeah, and then

1380
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 2: you're like, no, this really.

1381
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 3: Works, really doesn't crazy, and like people honestly have really

1382
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 3: similar personalities, but one person you're just like, yes, it's

1383
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 3: just like wow, what is that? It's amazing.

1384
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 2: I wanted to say something. I've thought of it when

1385
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:17,480
Speaker 2: we were talking abou Lady Gaga for one brief second,

1386
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 2: she is the ultimate EmPATH because literally she like watch

1387
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 2: a movie about, like, you know, whales, and she'll be like,

1388
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 2: holy shit, I'm a whale. Like she like literally can't

1389
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 2: not take on the personality of something she's like watching,

1390
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 2: Like when she sees a gay guy, she's like, I'm

1391
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 2: a gay guy. Like she's like, holy.

1392
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 3: Shit, that's me, Like lossary, I'm yeah.

1393
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 2: She loves to be like I was a stripper in

1394
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 2: New York City and it's like you you were you

1395
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 2: like saw strippers. Yeah. No, she does have like.

1396
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 1: Porest sense of self. Like she's walking through the world

1397
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 1: and each thing she's interacting with it's like she there's

1398
01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 1: like a little coy pond and she suddenly gets gills.

1399
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yes, wait wait, yes, it's like what there's

1400
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 3: this Marvel character.

1401
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 2: Oh god, oh now everything where.

1402
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 3: It's like I don't know, I literally don't remember what

1403
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 3: movie this was.

1404
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 2: Oh.

1405
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 3: I think it was Superman where there was like this

1406
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 3: this guy who was like he touched something and he became.

1407
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 1: Superman is DC.

1408
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, I don't want to know, you know what

1409
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:27,480
Speaker 3: I mean. That's cool. I'm like, I don't even know DC,

1410
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 3: but whatever, but he like anyway, that's The.

1411
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 2: Kids really.

1412
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 1: Love it because it is it is very no but

1413
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 1: it's very superhero esque. Well isn't that literally mystique.

1414
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 2: Well, she doesn't need to touch stuff, she just can.

1415
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 3: There's multiple people with powers, like.

1416
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 1: Lady Gaga is Lady Gaga is sort of but she

1417
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 1: has to work Chamelion kind of chameleon. Yeah, well, Mystique

1418
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 1: is based on chameleon.

1419
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 3: But it's more like if a chameleon was like I'm

1420
01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 3: blue and they haven't changed.

1421
01:03:57,960 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 1: That's true.

1422
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 2: No, she changed, Yeah, she changed her mind.

1423
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 1: She's more chameleon than than mister yeah.

1424
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah yeah.

1425
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 3: I also feel like when.

1426
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 1: She mistake a sympathy, chameleon is empathy.

1427
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 3: Whoa do you think she saw a lady in red?

1428
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 3: She's like, I'm going to be a lady in red now.

1429
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 2: Probably she literally saw a lady in red and was like,

1430
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 2: holy shit, I'm not.

1431
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:23,600
Speaker 3: It's funny to.

1432
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:25,440
Speaker 1: Me when she was Joe Calder and she just like

1433
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 1: met a man.

1434
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 2: She met a man who was Italian. Yes, and she

1435
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 2: was like, that's me.

1436
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, because even she is though she is Yeah, so.

1437
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 2: She has access to a lot of Italian Yeah, yeah, dude,

1438
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 2: to her family.

1439
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 1: Even you hesitating for a second and not knowing she

1440
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:48,280
Speaker 1: was Italian, it literally made me reconsider like this entire conversation.

1441
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 1: I was like, oh god, they actually don't know a

1442
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 1: lot about what I got.

1443
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:56,960
Speaker 3: No, no, I'm sorry, I do know that. It's like Germanada, Yeah,

1444
01:04:57,440 --> 01:04:59,600
Speaker 3: but I don't know. I suddenly I was like German,

1445
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 3: but I'm that's just because.

1446
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, sure, it's literally she's saying she's not a German.

1447
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:11,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's such a helpful waiter.

1448
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 1: If you think is Lady Gaga German? Just think Germanna and.

1449
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 3: Then yeah stepfa ne I'm it Sallian.

1450
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 2: Should we do our feel sick?

1451
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 1: I mean we can. I'm having fun? No, we should.

1452
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 1: I love the wash of your jeans. Are they vintage?

1453
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1454
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 2: Fuck? Is your vintage as well? Yeah? Can I just

1455
01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 2: go back?

1456
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 1: Sorry? We we need trap up. But it's like you

1457
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 1: mentioned briefly earlier, just like how lesbian Like I would say,

1458
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 1: seventy percent of lesbian culture.

1459
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 2: Blink, it's not that big blink, big blank, big blank

1460
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 2: challenge you were like lock in.

1461
01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like so much of lesbian culture is tailoring. Yes,

1462
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 1: And it's like how do I access that you are?

1463
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 1: It's a it's an instinct, Like of course I also

1464
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 1: occasionally will get something tailored. I'm not, like you know,

1465
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 1: I'm not a monster, but it is the it is

1466
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 1: the equivalent of what like you know, juicing is to

1467
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 1: gay guys, Like you know what I mean. It's like

1468
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:28,800
Speaker 1: it's like the foundation upon which everything else is built.

1469
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 1: For lesbians, it's tailoring, and for gay guys it's like

1470
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:32,760
Speaker 1: how do I look at in a muscle tank, yes,

1471
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 1: and layering and layering.

1472
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 3: Is like yeah, because it's like well for me, I

1473
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 3: have been to a tailor, of course guilty. But I

1474
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:46,920
Speaker 3: also to me, it's a lot about I can't order

1475
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 3: anything online, yes, like I have you gotta go and

1476
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 3: you have to like you have to spend a day

1477
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 3: like going trying things on, like it is like there's

1478
01:06:57,960 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 3: no other tests.

1479
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, then the physical you have to try it on.

1480
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 3: You have to try it on, and then yeah, I

1481
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 3: feel like it's all about layers, shape, fall fall so

1482
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 3: big with shirts, how do they fall? Draping, draping, I

1483
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:27,200
Speaker 3: just reassociating terms texture, texture, thickness. Yeah, but for me

1484
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 3: it is like it is like it's all about it's

1485
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 3: all about like that square that square fit like fills

1486
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:39,520
Speaker 3: out the shoulders, falls like below the hip.

1487
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 1: Oh, it's like it is erotic like it it really is.

1488
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 1: It's literally more erotic than wearing lingerie.

1489
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well yeah for me, yeah for sure.

1490
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:59,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. Let's final segment. It's called shout outs and then the

1491
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:02,680
Speaker 2: grand straight tradition of the radio shout out. We give

1492
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 2: a shout out to anything that we are enjoying, people, places, things, ideas.

1493
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 2: We will go first and George, do you have one,

1494
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 2: because that would be really amazing. That would be so

1495
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 2: cool if you happen to have one, And I know

1496
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 2: I would be happy about that.

1497
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 1: Okay, hold on, hold on, it's we think of them

1498
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 1: on the spot. So this is by design. We're not

1499
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:28,920
Speaker 1: doing anything wrong.

1500
01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:30,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're doing everything right.

1501
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:32,439
Speaker 1: Let me think, Let me think, let me think.

1502
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:34,679
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I have one.

1503
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 1: Go what's up?

1504
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 2: Freak sosis and perpects around the globe. I want to

1505
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:41,400
Speaker 2: give a shout out to watching a movie and hearing

1506
01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 2: a song in the movie and then being like, wait,

1507
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:46,439
Speaker 2: I'm gonna download that album. And I think this is

1508
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 2: shunned often in our society. People love to be like,

1509
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:51,439
Speaker 2: you didn't know that before that movie came out. No,

1510
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:53,559
Speaker 2: that's how I found out about it because I watched

1511
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 2: the movie. Sometimes I watch a movie, I say what

1512
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 2: is that song? And I'll look up the soundtrack and

1513
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 2: I'll say, that's the song, and then sometimes it leads

1514
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:02,680
Speaker 2: me to something. Usually, yeah, it's a bit of a

1515
01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 2: dead end on the album. I won't be that interested.

1516
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:07,719
Speaker 2: But it was a fun idea to download the album

1517
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:10,680
Speaker 2: in that moment, and it's I'm trying to grow and

1518
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:13,599
Speaker 2: I'm trying to learn new things and if that's my avenue,

1519
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:16,720
Speaker 2: then so be it. Sorry, I don't have people in

1520
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 2: my life telling me new music all the time. What

1521
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:21,040
Speaker 2: if I want something niche? How do people ever find

1522
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:24,080
Speaker 2: anything niche? For real? I don't know. You have to

1523
01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:26,439
Speaker 2: just watch movies and be like, what's that song? That's

1524
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 2: my shout out? Xoxo Sam?

1525
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 1: What's up freaks?

1526
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 2: Some losers?

1527
01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:31,679
Speaker 1: I want to give a shout out to Zara Home.

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Speaker 1: I don't know who is in charge over there. I

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01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:37,479
Speaker 1: don't know who's in charge. It's probably some span it's

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01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:41,040
Speaker 1: Penelope Cruise's gay cousin, cool gay cousin that she grew

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01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:42,920
Speaker 1: up with, and that's the reason she's so cunt all

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01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:46,439
Speaker 1: the time. But whatever is happening there in this Spain

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01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 1: HQ is pretty alarming because Zara normal is, you know,

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01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:54,439
Speaker 1: producing clothes made of tissue paper, sort of emulating like

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Speaker 1: Valenciaka designs from five years ago. You buy them immediately

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01:09:57,640 --> 01:10:00,680
Speaker 1: they disintegrate. They're all made by little children that that

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01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:03,639
Speaker 1: are like created by AI just to make this one

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01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:06,360
Speaker 1: shirt and then they're put to rest. But something is

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01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 1: happening in Zara Home. The level of sophistication is absolutely shocking.

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01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:12,240
Speaker 1: I am now hearing more and more people I know

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01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:15,960
Speaker 1: that are professionals in the core space recommending it, and

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01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:20,200
Speaker 1: there it is higher quality than you would expect, and

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01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:22,040
Speaker 1: it's more well designed than you would expect, and it

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01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:26,439
Speaker 1: has that perfect combination of sort of American functionalism and

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Speaker 1: you're a pan taste that I just a lot and

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Speaker 1: go gaga for so shout out to Zara Home. I

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01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 1: would absolutely love a discount code because it actually is

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01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:36,320
Speaker 1: a little more price than you would expect. And I

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01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:40,280
Speaker 1: am really looking into yes, and everyone should please reach out.

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01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:44,719
Speaker 1: We love promoting you brands. And I'm really looking into

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01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:47,639
Speaker 1: this stainless steel kind of credenza that would look amazing

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01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:48,679
Speaker 1: in one of my walls.

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Speaker 2: Well, there you go.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna give a shout out. I just saw the

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Speaker 3: movie Blue Moon. I want to shout out Ethan Hawk's performance.

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Speaker 3: They may a plate that they may him short. He's

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01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:02,880
Speaker 3: a gay guy. He's shorter than you would expect. He

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01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 3: looks like they made him forefront too. He looks so

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01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:07,559
Speaker 3: short in it. I don't know how they did it.

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Speaker 3: Shout out to Richard link Later for figuring that out.

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01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 3: And you think tricks up the camera and all that.

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Speaker 3: I just thought that Ethan Hawk playing this gay guy

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01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:19,680
Speaker 3: was so interesting. His voice was slightly inconsistent, but I

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01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:22,400
Speaker 3: didn't care. He was having the time of his life

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01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:24,880
Speaker 3: and I could tell that he enjoyed living in that

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01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:28,880
Speaker 3: being that guy. And I just honestly, anyone else who

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01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 3: talked in that movie, I got pissed off. He said,

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01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:34,360
Speaker 3: go back to Ethan. I'm beloving what he's doing. He's drunk,

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01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:36,760
Speaker 3: he's gay, he's having a great time. He's actually by

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01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:44,400
Speaker 3: and his character's by and I just feel like he

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01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:46,880
Speaker 3: had his hair slick back. He had maybe prosthetics, I

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01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 3: don't know, but he looked completely different. And I just

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01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:51,599
Speaker 3: think it's awesome that he's kind of a hot guy

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01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:54,479
Speaker 3: actor and he chose to play this timey bye guy

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01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 3: and we're a ton of foundation and a crazy wig,

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01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:00,840
Speaker 3: and I just think he was really funny.

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Speaker 2: I was listening to culture, like culture, I'm never talking

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01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:08,799
Speaker 2: this movie just this morning at six thirty in the morning.

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Speaker 1: I love to be guys, and I've heard going to

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Speaker 1: watch it. I've heard. I'm not going to say who,

1581
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 1: because I don't want to any wan to get mad

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01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:17,160
Speaker 1: I've heard it has a terrible performance.

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01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 2: I need to know after Well, this has been a

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Speaker 2: real delight. Thanks for doing the pod.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. This was this is I mean,

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01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:26,759
Speaker 3: I'm a longtime listener.

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Speaker 2: Lea appreciate it.

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01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:30,720
Speaker 1: Would you like to promote anything or tell people where

1589
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:32,760
Speaker 1: to find you? Because we are now professionals.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, you can find me on Instagram. Chopped Leva.

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01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 1: Wait, you sort of invented chopped.

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01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:45,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I've been chopped for years now.

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01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:48,040
Speaker 1: It's like it's honest amazing. Yeah, like that's like a

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01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:48,920
Speaker 1: triple on tundra.

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01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:53,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, literally, yes, yes, it is. Yeah, chopped Leva.

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01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:58,639
Speaker 3: People think it's chopped Liva, but it's Chopped Leva. And

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01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:00,680
Speaker 3: what am I doing? I'm going to be doing I

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Speaker 3: think some shows with my musical duo Dukes, which is

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01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:09,800
Speaker 3: my due with Jane wi Kline, and we're gonna have

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Speaker 3: some shows in the winter.

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Speaker 1: I think hereo soon.

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Speaker 2: Looking forward to it. Okay, bye bye.

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