1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Hey there, folks, welcome to the podcast TJ Holmes and 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:08,479 Speaker 1: Amy roboc Here and this episode of Amy and TJ. 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 1: We are going to get you caught up on what 4 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: is supposed to be the start of the fifth week 5 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: of testimony in the Ditty trial and robes today as 6 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: we record, this testimony is going on. But before they 7 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: even got the testimony, things have been interesting. So before 8 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: we even get folks to the last day of testimony 9 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: that wrapped up, we need to tell you what happened 10 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: this morning in court. 11 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 2: That's right, because Ditty's defense team had made the argument, 12 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 2: in fact, over the weekend asked for a mistrial. They 13 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 2: said that there was prosecutorial misconduct based on the testimony 14 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 2: of Brianna Bongolan. She was the star witness from last week. 15 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 2: And what Didty's team is saying is that the prosecutors 16 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 2: either knew or should have known that what she was 17 00:00:56,160 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 2: alleging happened couldn't have happened because he was not even 18 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 2: in the same city in La that she says he 19 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 2: was in when she claims he dangled her off that balcony. 20 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: Okay, this is a tough one to think. How did 21 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: you will not know this, but yeah, this is everybody. 22 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: The lady you were talking about was the one you 23 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: heard this story. It seemed like for a year plus now. 24 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: He allegedly dangled her over this balcony on September the 25 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: twenty sixth of twenty and sixteen. She of course a 26 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: close friend of Cassie bin Tura Fine, it was her 27 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: place at the time, but robes that date. We say 28 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: it because it is very important. She did this on 29 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 1: the stand and in previous interviews. She's stuck by September 30 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: twenty six, twenty sixteen. 31 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 2: And here's the deal. You know what these people say, 32 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,279 Speaker 2: I've got receipts. They actually have a hotel receipt little 33 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 2: that shows that Diddy was in New York days before 34 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 2: and days after September twenty six, twenty sixteen. So there's 35 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 2: absolutely no way he could have done what she claims 36 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 2: he did on that day. 37 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: So what's the issue there? Being right, he wasn't the 38 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: hotel stay. It's one thing to say, well, she was 39 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: off a day or two. Even if she is off 40 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: a day or two, he was still in New York 41 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: at the Trump International Hotel. Just so happened to be 42 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 1: he was already there So what they're arguing now is 43 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: that the prosecution you had to know this, So if 44 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 1: you knew it, you put her up there and allowed 45 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: her to perjure herself, and that is prosecutorial misconduct and 46 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: we should have a mistrial. That's the argument. They filed 47 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: for the mistrial on Saturday. Yeah, they did this over 48 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: the weekend and this morning. It seemed pretty dramatic when 49 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: they came in, but the judge didn't want the trial 50 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: to start immediately. He wanted to have a couple of conversations. 51 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 2: Yes, so prosecutors they were all huddled in separate corners 52 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 2: of the room. The court observers have been talking about 53 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 2: how it was not the way they've typically started Monday 54 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 2: morning with testimony, and so it seems like the judge 55 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 2: is now going to give prosecutors a chance to respond 56 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 2: before he makes a decision as to whether or not 57 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 2: there would be a mistrial. This is the second time 58 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 2: the defense has asked for a mis trial. They asked 59 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 2: for it last month. 60 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: I believe correct same thing. Prosecutorial misconduct. They were essentially saying, 61 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: they asked a lot of questioning about Kid Cutty's car 62 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: blowing up, that they thought they shouldn't ask, and it 63 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: tainted the jury. The judge eventually came back and said, no, 64 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: we're good, we're fine, and moved on. Now. It's a 65 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: pretty high bar for a mistrial, as we know, and 66 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: a trial like this and all the work and the effort, 67 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: and yes, the money and the resources that have gone 68 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 1: into this, it's got to be really bad right before 69 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: a judge with declare mistrial. But hey, I am no 70 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: legal expert, I'm no lawyer. I don't know how bad. 71 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 2: Was this we had this conversation, nor do I know. So, yes, 72 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 2: they have a day to respond to the defense's argument 73 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 2: and then the judge will make a decision based on that. 74 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 2: But until then, testimony is going to continue today, and 75 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 2: of course Jane Doe, the pseudonym that she is being 76 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 2: called by Jane, will be back up on the stand 77 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 2: today after an You know, it sounds like we're a 78 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 2: broken record, but it was an unbelievable day of testimony 79 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 2: on Friday. It was shocking, it was gutting. 80 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: We are a broken record, but we've been correct every 81 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: single time, right every single time. It sound like we're 82 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: saying the same thing, but I have my I continue 83 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: to be floored. I say, Okay, they're going to talk 84 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: about freak offs again. What more can you hear about 85 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: a freak off? Well, apparently a lot more, a lot more. 86 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 1: There's just different details in here. We should give your 87 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: heads off, folks. Some of this stuff we are going 88 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: to just pass along to you that they did testify 89 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 1: to over the past couple of days is really really 90 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: gutting to hear and difficult to hear. So just the 91 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: heads up there as we go through this. But yes, 92 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: as we speak as this recording here on a rainy, 93 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: dreary Monday morning in Lower Manhattan, I don't know if 94 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: you can hear the police cars the sirens in the 95 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: background here, but yes, we are literally a couple of 96 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 1: blocks from the courthouse I hear downtown. But she's back 97 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: up and testifying today. They expect her to be up 98 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: the rest of the day, just on direct so not 99 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 1: even getting to the cross examinity examination yet. So she's 100 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 1: going to be up. But she, like you said, Robes 101 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 1: on Friday, and this was a highly anticipated witness. 102 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, and she made it clear she did not want 103 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 2: to participate in some of these what they were called 104 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 2: an all star party freak off like it's an extended 105 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 2: version of the freakoffs we heard so much about from 106 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 2: Cassie Ventura. These were like even worse, even longer, more men. 107 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 2: And she went through these text messages of talking about 108 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 2: how she did not want to participate. And yet she 109 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 2: also kind of surprised the court and jurors at least 110 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 2: and those of us who are listening to her that 111 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 2: Diddy is still paying for her rent. And she talked 112 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 2: about the financial control he held over her, but to 113 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,799 Speaker 2: this day he is paying for her housing right now. 114 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 2: And she also maybe that's wild. 115 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: He's sitting there listening to a woman testify against him. Yes, 116 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 1: she says, she doesn't want to be there, but she 117 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:00,679 Speaker 1: has to testify. He has to hear all this stuff. 118 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 1: She has a prosecution star witness. And he is paying 119 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 1: her rent as we speak. This is not he used 120 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: to currently currently. I never heard of anything robes. As 121 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:12,679 Speaker 1: to why he's. 122 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 2: Paying it, well, she said it was a part of 123 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 2: a verbal love contract, so basically a two year deal. 124 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 2: She gets ten thousand dollars a month. She also pointed 125 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:23,799 Speaker 2: out that he didn't like her teeth, so he paid 126 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 2: for a new set of veneers. But then he used 127 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 2: to say things to her like, look at that roof 128 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 2: over your head and look at your pretty smile, basically saying, 129 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 2: here's what I did for you, and here's what I 130 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 2: need you to do for me, which is to do 131 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 2: these free costs. 132 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: Repeatedly she said anytime she gave any resistance, showed any 133 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 1: resistance to wanting to do one of these sex sessions, 134 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: that's the first thing that came up. So this is 135 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 1: what the prosecution, the government is trying to prove here 136 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: that this is not somebody who was there voluntarily. Now, 137 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: this is not consensual. She is being paid for a service, 138 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: and if she doesn't perform that service, she's punished. They're 139 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 1: trying to prove a sexual African case. Again, I'm not 140 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: a legal expert, but that is what the legal experts 141 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: will tell you. They'reetting it. 142 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and she too, like so one of these other 143 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 2: women who have come up, and she was one of 144 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 2: his ex girlfriends, but she talked about how she loved 145 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 2: him and she just wanted to be with him and 146 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 2: didn't realize that this was going to turn into what 147 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 2: it seems like it turned into for just about everyone 148 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 2: else that he dated. Where he preferred watching his girlfriend 149 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 2: have sex with other men, whether she liked it or not, 150 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 2: versus having sex with him. She said they even went 151 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 2: on a trip together and she thought it was just 152 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 2: going to be the two of them. Oh yeah, she 153 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 2: was so excited. And she said he got bored and 154 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 2: ended up inviting a male escort, and. 155 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: So she's wild. But thinking it was going to be 156 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: one thing, it turned into something else. It was weird 157 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: to hear her, to see the transcript of her using 158 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: the word board like he just he got bored, Like 159 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: it wasn't good enough, She wasn't good enough. Whatever was 160 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: going on wasn't good enough, and he needed that to 161 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: be excited, which is to watch his girlfriend have sex 162 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: with another man. And that was a big one Robes 163 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: because into a Fine said the same thing, like she 164 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: was desperate to have one on one tying with him, 165 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: so they wanted to keep him happy in oneever way 166 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: so they could spend time with him. And so she 167 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: kept doing it and kept doing it and kept what 168 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: was it, ninety percent? She said, other time. 169 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 2: Was with it with him other men, And she said 170 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 2: there were times where she had sex straight for more 171 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 2: than twenty four hours. I cannot even imagine and she said, yeah, 172 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:27,239 Speaker 2: it was really painful. I was extremely sore. She talked 173 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 2: about after all of these she would have a uti 174 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 2: or a yeast infection and she had to keep working 175 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 2: having sex through that, and ah, that is so painful. 176 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 2: That makes me feel physically ill to think about as 177 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 2: a woman. I know that pain a little bit, but 178 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 2: nothing like for twenty four hours straight. I can't even 179 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 2: imagine what that must. 180 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: Have felt like. And she I don't remember casting into 181 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: a fine And maybe you can help me on this 182 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: talk about having to have sex with multiple men on 183 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: one night. I know she said the sessions when low. 184 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: I don't remember the multiple men in one night part 185 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 1: of her testimony. But this, this Jane is certainly she 186 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 1: certainly said they were occasions, there were three guys. Was 187 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: this her birthday? The birthday? So she had a birthday 188 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three, and for her birthday he insisted 189 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 1: that she have sex with not one, not two, but 190 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: three men on her birthday robe. 191 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 2: She said after she had sex with two of the 192 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 2: male escorts, she started throwing up. I mean, think about 193 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 2: just the physical exertion. But then she obviously she even 194 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 2: said she tried to do one sober one time, and 195 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,359 Speaker 2: she couldn't, so she needed to be on drugs ecstasy, 196 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:39,199 Speaker 2: et cetera, even to get through it. And so imagine 197 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 2: all of that physical exertion, these drugs that are in 198 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 2: your body. Yeah, she got nauseated, she threw up. She 199 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,079 Speaker 2: was concerned, and he said, hey, good, now you'll feel better. 200 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 2: Let's go because the third guy's here. 201 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: That's cool. That is terrible. It's true. Again, there's all 202 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: allegations of how she's recalling the story, but my goodness, 203 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: some of her details were incredible. So the thing she's 204 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: having sex, the two guys she throws up, and the 205 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: guy she's in a relationship with right that loves her, 206 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: that cares for her, say, good that you threw up 207 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:09,599 Speaker 1: because the third guys here, look at you. 208 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll feel better now, so you can keep on going. 209 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:15,719 Speaker 2: For the third guy, I just yeah. So she is 210 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 2: sitting there and making just like setting a scene that 211 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 2: is truly, truly sounds like a horror show. And she 212 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 2: was not only she says, forced into these sex acts 213 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 2: because she needed money and literally needed the roof over 214 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 2: her head, but also she says she was forced to 215 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 2: carry drugs for Diddy, across state lines. So these are 216 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 2: all and the prosecution is setting up that charges against 217 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 2: him right now. But there was a text message. She 218 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 2: spent a lot of the time on the stand reading 219 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 2: text messages, and there's one in particular, and we're going 220 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 2: to read it because it just it's so powerful and 221 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 2: it just gives you an idea of where her head 222 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 2: was during all of this. But here is a text 223 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 2: that she sent to Ditty, you know, And. 224 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: This is important. It's one thing when folks get on 225 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: the stand and they're recalling something and tell a good 226 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: story and allegedly this allegedly that. But this is a 227 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 1: text message from whatever, how many years ago, two, three, four, 228 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: five years ago. She's sending this message not thinking she's 229 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: going to end up in court. She's sending this message 230 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: not thinking that anybody will ever see this. That is 231 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:29,839 Speaker 1: so important that to see where her mind was at 232 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: the time. I think the text messages are more damning 233 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: than most of the testimony. 234 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 2: I do too, because it's not something like you said, 235 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 2: you're not recalling, you're not embellishing, you're not misremembering. I mean, 236 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 2: this is exactly where you were. That was your state 237 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 2: of mind, and you had no reason to put this 238 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 2: in writing other than to express yourself to someone. So 239 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 2: there was no motive behind this, no ulterior motive. Okay, 240 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 2: here is the text that Jane sent to Ditty. I'm 241 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 2: so much more than being loved in the dark in 242 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 2: hotel rooms, doing things that make me feel disgusted. I 243 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 2: don't want to play this role in your life anymore. 244 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 2: It's dark, sleazy, and makes me feel disgusted with myself. 245 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 2: I don't want to feel obligated to perform these nights 246 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 2: when you with you in fear of losing the roof 247 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 2: over my head. That is so chilling. And then Ditty's 248 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 2: response is even more chilling. So what did he say 249 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 2: to her? Girls stop completely dismissive. 250 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: I think that might be some of the most damning 251 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: and corroborating evidence at least we have come across in 252 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: here that was in real time at the time, and 253 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: she is begging to be let out. 254 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 2: It's heart breaking. 255 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: Yes, and I know a lot of folks and people 256 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: will continue with Look, you're grown, folks. You had the option, 257 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: you had the choice. You could have done this, you 258 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: could have done that, And I understand and I'm yes, 259 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: the therapists and the psychologists will tell you whatever difference 260 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: when it comes to people who are abused. I mean, 261 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: this was this young lady. I am nervous robes about 262 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: what happens cross examination, Oh my goodness, because she has 263 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: so much damning experience with him. Like, how do you 264 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 1: go at this woman as a defense attorney and not 265 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 1: look like a monster attacking her because her I don't look. 266 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: You can believe what you want to believe, but if 267 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: you listen to this woman, you know she went through something. 268 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 1: If it's enough to prove and get him in jail, 269 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: that's a different situation. 270 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 2: But you kata, yeah, I mean she was, she was 271 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 2: trying on the stand as she saw. So the video, 272 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 2: one of the FREAKUF videos, was played and it was 273 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 2: played for jurors, and only the attorneys and jurors could 274 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 2: see the video. They made sure that the rest of 275 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 2: the courtroom could only hear the audio. Can you imagine 276 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 2: the worst, most awful, just the fact that there's a 277 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 2: video of something that's so terrible and so embarrassing. I 278 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 2: would think, I don't want to put that word in 279 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 2: her mouth, but I'm just imagining what it would be like. 280 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 2: And to know everyone's watching it, and they have to 281 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 2: watch it in order for some of these charges to land, 282 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 2: or at least for them to understand what was going on. 283 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 1: You know, in there, we always think about it like 284 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: the worst thing in the world. Something goes viral, the 285 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: internet goes in the the video goes on the internet. Okay, 286 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: that's awful. She has to sit in a courtroom and 287 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: describe it. That's terrible. For a room full of strangers 288 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: to walk them through it. They see her on it. 289 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: And this was one the at least the audio again, 290 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: the audio is playing for the whole portna. That's just 291 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: as awful. One of the moments on the audio that's 292 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: captured is Robes Diddy saying he doesn't want her to 293 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: use a condom with this male escort, and apparently he 294 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: insisted on that every time. 295 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 2: And you know, you're that's a whole other level of cruelty, 296 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 2: because yes, now you're I mean, you're risking potential pregnancy, 297 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 2: I guess, but maybe she was she had some other 298 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 2: form of protection. But mostly you're risking your physical health 299 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 2: as well, because you don't know STDs, all these things 300 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 2: that can be I'm just saying, I just that's a 301 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 2: whole other level of I don't care if what you get, 302 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 2: what you contract, what you might get from this person, 303 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 2: you don't even know. 304 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: But here's the thing they said, Oh, she was testifying 305 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: he would only want to have sex with her after 306 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: he had watched her have sex with another man, Like, 307 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: why would he even be oway? 308 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 2: You're right, he's putting himself also in physical jeopardy as 309 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 2: well with what could possibly have been contracted. Or it's 310 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 2: just a terrible, awful, just icky, gross thing that it 311 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 2: just seems to continually have more details than I could 312 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 2: have ever imagined. 313 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: It's wild. But she continues got on the stand today 314 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: so we could see her. The prosecution has already said 315 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: we do not expect to be done by the end 316 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: of the day with her, so that means the cross 317 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: examination is not going to start before tomorrow at the earliest. 318 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: But still, am I not star first thing in the morning? 319 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: Who knows? And what was the schedule as well? 320 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 2: They were so she has an international flight on Thursday, 321 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 2: and so last week the prosecution was concerned about whether 322 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 2: or not that timing was gonna work out. So that 323 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 2: just shows you how much they had been planning to 324 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 2: question her. And then yes, what the defense decides to do, 325 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 2: is anyone's guest in terms of how they're going to 326 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 2: handle her and how tough they're going to be with her? 327 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: And they who was the I'm trying to think of 328 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: a previous but they they were pretty respectful to a 329 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: couple of previous folks on the stand. The fence was 330 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: and then the lad was it I can't remember? They 331 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: went after one? There was one? 332 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 2: Was it? 333 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: Brianna Bungling absolutely after after her? So who knows who 334 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: how this is going to get handled, but she is 335 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: a critically important risk witness and we are seeing that 336 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: play out. So folks, we will continue, and again, thank 337 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: you all for continuing to listen. We know you're listening. 338 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: Anytime we think, ah, maybe we shouldn't do one today, 339 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: maybe the testimony wasn't that, it's not going to be 340 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 1: so jaw dropping. It just every single time, and we 341 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: have been seeing that. Folks, you all have been listening 342 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: and you continue to listen. So now we feel like 343 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 1: we're doing it. We're doing something that least people are 344 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 1: looking for and depending on to get their updates. A 345 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 1: one stop shop, I think is what you. 346 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 2: Call one stop shop. So yes, thank you, We will 347 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 2: continue to update you all as information becomes available in 348 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 2: the Diddy trial, but in the meantime, we hope you 349 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 2: have a wonderful Monday, and thanks for listening.