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Speaker 2: That's so young.

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Speaker 1: Well, if I'm so young, then why do I think

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Speaker 1: about sheds so much? I think about sheds constantly. What

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Speaker 1: kind of shed could I get? How big of a

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Speaker 1: shed could I put.

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Speaker 2: In my yard?

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Speaker 1: Would I put the shed on a concrete slab or

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Speaker 1: a plastic floor. What could I put in the shed?

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't it be nice to hide all of my things

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Speaker 2: Would it be.

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Speaker 1: Okay if the shed was in the sunshine or would.

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Speaker 2: That deteriorate the shed?

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Speaker 1: Would I have to get a new shed after a

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 1: What are the best brands of sheds? Young people don't

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Speaker 4: Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the Noteumb podcast

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Speaker 4: on the Athletic Network. It's Wednesday, January eighth, in twenty

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Speaker 4: five I'm Jay Skis here in the Classic Factory. Next

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Speaker 4: to me the Beard one, my top shot hot boy

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Speaker 4: Trey Kirby, Hey, hey, yo, and over yonder making the

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Speaker 4: magic happen. Super producer JD.

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Speaker 3: Hello, there he is.

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Speaker 4: And finally outside for a third straight day.

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Speaker 2: He's as cold as ice.

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Speaker 3: It's ta Mellis.

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Speaker 2: Hey, everybody. All that shed talk sounded so nice. I

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Speaker 2: would love to be in a shed.

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Speaker 3: I bet you would.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Chili, we're showing minus two celsius. I think that's

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Speaker 4: like what twenty eight fahrenheit? It got a little colder

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Speaker 4: than yesterday? Is the wind picking up tasks?

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Speaker 3: Is that true?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, yes, according to reports it's twenty degrees fahrenheit

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Speaker 2: because of the wind. Oh it's chili, like you can

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Speaker 2: see my breath. Actually, let me go up to this

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Speaker 2: recycling bin. So we get a little contrast.

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Speaker 3: Okay, we adjusting the Sorry JD.

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Speaker 2: That was the way go ahead? Okay, yeah you can't

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Speaker 2: really see it. Nope, can't say much.

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Speaker 4: Is that not sponsored by top Shop? So yes? Paying

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Speaker 4: off his December pick and loss. He's outside all week

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Speaker 4: and I guess the good news for us go ahead

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Speaker 3: Right, four inches tasks?

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Speaker 4: They're telling us, Yeah, what's going to be a long night.

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Speaker 2: It does not feel like Atlanta this week. It feels

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Speaker 2: like I'm home in Canada. This has got to be

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Speaker 2: the coldest run in Atlanta since we moved here a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's all said and done. If it

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Speaker 4: is the five or six weeks, I think you're right

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Speaker 4: for sure in terms of the length of the cold.

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Speaker 4: All right, well, let's get into some NBA talk. We

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Speaker 4: had some wedgies. Maybe that'll warm up test. We had

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Speaker 4: two last night because they come in bunches. Number seventeen

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Speaker 4: rebounded tip attempt, excuse me? And that one jammed in there.

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Speaker 4: I'm not even sure they ever got that ball out.

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Speaker 4: And then a little bit later in the night, Dennis

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Speaker 4: Shrewder for the Warriors, maybe the only thing he's done

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Speaker 4: a little bit to forty six. But let's get into

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Speaker 4: those games, because task we had a very exciting finish

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Speaker 4: in Utah. Trey Young capped spectacular twenty four point twenty

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Speaker 4: But as you see here if you're joining us on YouTube,

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Speaker 4: and the Hawks fans, sorry, the Hawks teammates go nuts.

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Speaker 4: Did you stay up to watch this one live task?

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Speaker 4: Where are you catching this in the morning?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely not. Didn't stay up to watch this one. But

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Speaker 2: does the two cold ice. I don't think I've ever

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Speaker 2: seen a Trey Young do his yeah shiver riving cold. No,

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Speaker 4: He waved like bye bye to the crowd real quick,

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Speaker 4: why they just inbounded it to Trey Young. He sort

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Speaker 4: buzzer beater in NBA history, and man, it was pure

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Speaker 3: Here, nice swish ty game as well when Trey took it,

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Speaker 3: so he's like going Steph Curry versus OKC mode take

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Speaker 3: I think his right foot was further back than his

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Speaker 3: Sexon my guy Veat was looking defeated, he was down

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Speaker 3: up and drains it. Awesome last three and a half

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Speaker 3: minutes for Trey. Young assisted on two three pointers, made

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Speaker 3: He counted for all fourteen of the Hawks points, and

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Speaker 3: all for the Hawks in this game. They need everything

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and the Hawks here used a balanced sort of

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Speaker 4: and hit that incredible shot in the corner. He did

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Speaker 4: I think it was like the fifth time he had

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Speaker 4: started this season for Atlanta. Thirteen points, five or six

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Speaker 4: this idea, like I guess the Hawks at their best

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Speaker 4: I mean this is his third game now this season

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Speaker 4: apple sauce now what we called twenty assists? We never

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Speaker 4: talked about it. This guy, that's all he does. But

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Speaker 4: this is like, this is the Hawks at their best task.

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Speaker 4: I think when everybody's contributing, it doesn't just have to

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, We'll get to a list later on this show

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Speaker 2: of the top five point guards out of Sacrife themselves

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Speaker 2: for their team. And that is exactly what Trey Young

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Speaker 2: a heck of a lot more, but no Jelen Johnson

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Speaker 2: in this game. He wasn't out there. He's usually the

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Speaker 2: He's the number one dunk, number one pick. Excuse me

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Speaker 4: As for the Hawks too, I guess when we went

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Speaker 4: from twenty twenty four to twenty twenty five, the Hawks

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Speaker 4: the we gotta be five hundred. Bit that they lost

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Speaker 4: three on the road. Here they're amidst a long road

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Speaker 4: their TK. Now nineteen and eighteen, we'll see if they

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Speaker 4: it's their own rough stretch of their season, but you

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Speaker 4: If they can get that victory, they're either going back

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Speaker 4: to and four three and three here to Atlanta to

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Speaker 4: cold Atlanta, perfect exactly.

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Speaker 3: Four or three and three. That's a that's Hawk style

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Speaker 3: right there. They've had a little bit of a skin

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Speaker 3: I think since the NBA Cup, just like the Milwaukee

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Speaker 3: But I put it all on Quinn Snyder. Hawks are

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Speaker 3: Somebody at the NBA Cup, a reporter told him that

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Speaker 3: they were being called Sally Jesse Rafael Glasses and he said,

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Speaker 3: I'm never gonna wear him again, one hundred percent facts.

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Speaker 3: And he had just found that out at the end,

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Speaker 4: What did you think where he impressed, how he loved

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Speaker 3: He scored twenty two points twenty eight minutes on sixty

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Speaker 3: I feel like I didn't even miss a beat, but

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Speaker 4: It looked like an All star game.

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Speaker 2: to see the Sun's bench get destroyed If bal knows

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00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,800
Speaker 2: he's or believes he's a star in this league. And

436
00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,880
Speaker 2: Nurkic going to the bench along with Grayson Allen, who

437
00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:05,280
Speaker 2: they just gave a big contract to.

438
00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,760
Speaker 4: Three guys that you know could start on a lot

439
00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:09,399
Speaker 4: of teams in the NBA.

440
00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,960
Speaker 2: Bial minus twenty one, Nurkish minus twenty two, and Alan

441
00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,800
Speaker 2: minus seventeen. That twenty six to six run to end

442
00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:19,520
Speaker 2: the first half for the Charlotte Hornets was was it?

443
00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:23,600
Speaker 2: That was the entire game? Well? Watching this thing, Phoenix

444
00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:25,920
Speaker 2: Sun's they just don't have the heart to come back

445
00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,119
Speaker 2: out of the locker room and fight, And so I

446
00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,720
Speaker 2: understand why Mike Budenholzer decided, Okay, we got to change something,

447
00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,879
Speaker 2: Bial to the bench, Nurkic to the bench. But if

448
00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:39,320
Speaker 2: those guys in a team that's extremely top heavy aren't performing,

449
00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:43,800
Speaker 2: then your guys like Ryan Dunn or oh sooygodaro, they

450
00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:45,840
Speaker 2: can't be enough. And at the beginning of the season,

451
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Speaker 2: while they were streaking, I thought, Okay, this team looks

452
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Speaker 2: deep enough, but there's obviously not enough heart. And that

453
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Speaker 2: goes back to last year, goes back to the year

454
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Speaker 2: before that. I suppose when Chris Paul was there. I

455
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Speaker 2: don't know if they should just give Frank Vogel his

456
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Speaker 2: job back that that wasn't his fault. Obviously, this team

457
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:08,440
Speaker 2: just doesn't have a leadership. The Durant, Booker, Beal Combo

458
00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 2: or trio just is not it. And so this is

459
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Speaker 2: a team obviously that could be the one that makes

460
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Speaker 2: the deal, especially with Matt Ashpia and how he tends

461
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Speaker 2: to make the big deals. It's four weeks. It just

462
00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,080
Speaker 2: got a lot more interesting. This could be the team

463
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Speaker 2: that makes the Jimmy Butler deal if if Beal is

464
00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,280
Speaker 2: willing to waive his no trade Clark right. Yeah.

465
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Speaker 4: The latest slide with Kevin Durant playing, I think we

466
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Speaker 4: do have to note that has dropped the Suns here

467
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Speaker 4: to the bottom of the twelve team race for ten spots.

468
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Speaker 4: That's where they're at. They're sixteen and nineteen, so they're

469
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Speaker 4: in the twelve spot in the West. They're one and

470
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Speaker 4: a half games out of the number ten seed. There

471
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,360
Speaker 4: are three and a half games on the number six seeds.

472
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Speaker 4: So like when you look at it like that, you know,

473
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Speaker 4: put together a good week or two, have a couple

474
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Speaker 4: of these other teams ahead of you. Falter, I mean,

475
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,440
Speaker 4: we saw the Lakers lose a rough one last night.

476
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 4: We see it happen, you're right back in it. But

477
00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,280
Speaker 4: you know, you do have this in crazy expensive team,

478
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,959
Speaker 4: and we had high hopes and the coaching change, and

479
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:05,640
Speaker 4: it's a little more depth, like they had a good

480
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 4: summer we thought for the most part, you know, considering

481
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Speaker 4: what they could and couldn't do, and here they are

482
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Speaker 4: once again disappointing.

483
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Speaker 3: It's good that broke. Devin Booker had a good game

484
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Speaker 3: last night, thirty nine points, ten assists. He's been disappointing

485
00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 3: this season. He hasn't carried the Suns at all. He

486
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 3: should actually be stepping into more of a playmaking role,

487
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 3: I think with Beale going to the bench, but he's

488
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 3: not an All Star this season. They've got three Max players.

489
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Speaker 3: One of them is playing like a Max player. That's

490
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Speaker 3: really the heart of the issue. I think for the Suns,

491
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Speaker 3: if Booker's averaging thirty a game, they probably look a

492
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Speaker 3: lot better. You know, if he's playing the way he

493
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Speaker 3: played last season. He's been an All NBA guy, was

494
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,200
Speaker 3: awesome during the Olympics. He just hasn't been quite the same.

495
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Speaker 3: And then you look at the way things played out

496
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Speaker 3: last night, thirty nine for him, twenty six for Durant,

497
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,440
Speaker 3: ten for Beal, but that's the next highest scorer is Beal, Like, yeah,

498
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Speaker 3: I don't know. They just don't have enough. It feels

499
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Speaker 3: like and or can they get enough?

500
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Speaker 4: And you can count on one hand at least this

501
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,200
Speaker 4: season games were all three of those guys and their

502
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Speaker 4: main guys all play well in the same night.

503
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 3: It's so rare. It's like, you're right, Booker has.

504
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 4: A monster game where he can't miss, but maybe it's

505
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 4: a slow night for Duran or a really bad game

506
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 4: for Bial. Then you can flip that to where the

507
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 4: Knights where Kevin Durant's been on fire and Booker can't

508
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,439
Speaker 4: hit a shot for whatever. It's like they rarely are

509
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:18,880
Speaker 4: on the same page in the same game. And maybe

510
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,680
Speaker 4: that's just the makeup of the team and the type

511
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,880
Speaker 4: of players those guys are. But this is very bad

512
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,200
Speaker 4: and that's a great point task Like you would think

513
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,160
Speaker 4: with Ishbia there and like not meeting expectations and now

514
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 4: falling out of play in spots for crying out loud,

515
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Speaker 4: that maybe they are like we do something drastic now

516
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 4: the whole Bradley Beal of it all? Does he wave

517
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Speaker 4: the no trade clause. There's that, but do you get

518
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Speaker 4: even crazier? Is it wild to imagine them moving off

519
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 4: of either Kevin Durant or Devin Booker? Is that crazy

520
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 4: to say out loud?

521
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Speaker 2: I think so. Yeah. I think you could get crazy

522
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 2: and get more teams involved in a trade where it

523
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Speaker 2: does work out financially to not even trade be to

524
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Speaker 2: get Grayson Allen being a big part of you know,

525
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 2: making nearly thirty mil. But maybe maybe it ain't enough. Yeah,

526
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Speaker 2: I do think that that part is a little bit drastic,

527
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 2: although it is matt Eshba. Maybe he is willing to

528
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:14,199
Speaker 2: trade something at the top of his roster, but I

529
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Speaker 2: think the bigger thing is that he's just pot committed.

530
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 2: You gotta go all in, and I'm sure that's what

531
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Speaker 2: he's thinking. And I don't know if Beial is comfortable

532
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 2: waving the no trade clause, but watching the body language

533
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Speaker 2: of a guy like Yusuf Nurkic who was expected to

534
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Speaker 2: be good on this team because they don't have a

535
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Speaker 2: lot of depth with their bigs. We talked about Mason

536
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 2: Plumbley yesterday. A guy like Ryan Dunn, who started the

537
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 2: season great shooting the three ball. He didn't shoot at Virginia.

538
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 2: I only shot twelve threes and in his two years there,

539
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 2: and then he shot thirteen in the preseason and he

540
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,199
Speaker 2: was shooting well, and then he was an OH for

541
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Speaker 2: last night only shooting thirty one percent from three. You

542
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Speaker 2: can't expect that from rookies, and that's extremely disappointing from

543
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Speaker 2: a guy like Yusuf Nurkic. He has got the biggest

544
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Speaker 2: role he's had in his career to be a starting

545
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Speaker 2: center on a team, and they just have so many

546
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 2: holes and so it's whatever is available. I think Matt

547
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 2: Ishbiel will do it. But yeah, the finances of the

548
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 2: new CBA limited other games.

549
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Speaker 4: Last night, Jalen Green scored twenty two of his twenty

550
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Speaker 4: nine in the third quarter, Rockets took care of the Wizards.

551
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 4: MAVs ended a five game losing street. They beat the

552
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Speaker 4: Lakers one, eighteen ninety seven. Tatum scored twenty nine as

553
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Speaker 4: the Celtics held off the depleted Nuggets. No jokicen that

554
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 4: one one eighteen one to six, and then Bam led

555
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Speaker 4: the Heat past the Warriors one fourteen ninety eight in

556
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 4: a back to back situation for them. So good, Miami win,

557
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 4: bad Warriors loss. We'll talk a lot more about Steph

558
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,879
Speaker 4: Currean the Warriors in a second, but any other takeaways

559
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 4: from any of those games.

560
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Speaker 3: Last night, TK I watched Nuggets Celtics. Disappointing that Jokic

561
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:44,880
Speaker 3: was a late scratch. I think he's got an illness.

562
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Speaker 3: But Denver battled, I thought in this one, but the

563
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 3: Celtics just always had another run. I thought that the

564
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Speaker 3: game ending run was going to be the fifteen to

565
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Speaker 3: zero one. In the middle of the fourth quarter, Porzingis

566
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Speaker 3: got a dunk, Drew Holliday got a three, Jalen Brown

567
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 3: got a layup, Horford got a three, Tatum got a miittie.

568
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Speaker 3: Then he got filed on a three point shot. Fifteen

569
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Speaker 3: to zero. Great stuff, But Denver battled back once again,

570
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 3: and then Celtics closed it out with a couple of

571
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Speaker 3: Drew Holliday buckets. He's been playing pretty well lately. Struggled

572
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Speaker 3: to shoot the ball to start the season thirty four

573
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Speaker 3: percent on the year, but thirty eight percent from three

574
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Speaker 3: to the last ten games, forty three percent the last

575
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Speaker 3: five games. That's very encouraging. Also encouraging, Big Kristaps Porzingis.

576
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Speaker 3: Game twenty five points, eleven rebounds. Was just looking aggressive

577
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Speaker 3: to get in the lane and give the Celtics that

578
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 3: little change up that they brought him in for last season.

579
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Speaker 3: We know they're a great three point shooting team. They

580
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 3: like to drive and kick, but when it's switch mode,

581
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Speaker 3: get it into the post because Porzingis is a great

582
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Speaker 3: post up player. Now didn't used to be learned it

583
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 3: in Washington, and now he's good at it, getting his

584
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Speaker 3: legs under him. I think he said he's eighty to

585
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Speaker 3: eighty five percent back, okay, and this looked like his

586
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Speaker 3: best game since he's returned.

587
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, And they definitely, you know, made a

588
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 4: concerted effort to get him the ball early. Like you said, now,

589
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 4: no Yokich, so that changes the equation of the game.

590
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Speaker 4: But yeah, KP finished with fifteen points in the first quarter,

591
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 4: six to ten shooting. He had a big block on

592
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 4: I guess it was DeAndre Jordan in the fourth quarter.

593
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,880
Speaker 4: DeAndre Jordan was trying to slay him that home. KP

594
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 4: met him at the summit, he blocked it. They went

595
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 4: the other way. I thought this was his best game.

596
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 4: Tatum did his thing. Twenty nine and eleven. You said,

597
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 4: Drew Holiday was good. But yeah, you only disappointing part

598
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 4: was there no Yo kitchen for the Nuggets And it's

599
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 4: like you don't like their chances too much against the

600
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 4: mighty Celtics.

601
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Speaker 3: Tast any of those other games you wanted to touch on.

602
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 2: Well, sure, that Celtics game there. I don't know if

603
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 2: you guys just heard the wind there. I wasn't blowing

604
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 2: my whistle, but it sounded loud through my headphones. I

605
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 2: guess as far as the Celtics go. Yeah, Jalen Brown

606
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 2: knocked over a beer. I was confused when he knocked

607
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 2: that beer over. There was ice down as well. Was

608
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 2: there beer or was there ice in the beer or

609
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 2: was that another drink? I just I just couldn't decide.

610
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 3: A big spell. That was quite a delay, Yeah, a lot.

611
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,199
Speaker 3: Then Jaylen Brown like got called for a travel on

612
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 3: the very next play after right his I think his

613
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 3: feet were all slippery.

614
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:57,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

615
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 3: Oh, he rode the hoop and like he's he planted

616
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,679
Speaker 3: and both his feet on the other way. Yeah, But.

617
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 2: I think from the other games, it's great to see

618
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 2: the heat, great performance Jimihawks. It's great to see him

619
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Speaker 2: starting again. Year one, awesome year starting now year two.

620
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 2: He's kind of back in that role. He had eighteen

621
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Speaker 2: points against Golden State, sixteen points, ten assists in the

622
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:26,360
Speaker 2: game before ten rebounds. Excuse me in the game before that, man,

623
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Speaker 2: I'm yeah, yeah, yeah. So that was a career high

624
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,239
Speaker 2: for him. He looks like a different guy. As far

625
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 2: as the Rockets, I know it's the Rockets Wizards. Nobody

626
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 2: really cares but Amed Thompson taking the starting spot o

627
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 2: Jabari Smith, who's out for a month. He looks. He's ridiculous.

628
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 2: He looks so good. So he had a monster twenty

629
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 2: fifteen boards, four assists, three steals. It's all excellency with him.

630
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 2: Sorr Thompson. That's their their middle name, and it always

631
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 2: confuses me, but they have the same middle name, x

632
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 2: l NC. That's their middle name. And the MAVs looked

633
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 2: like the team that went to the NBA Finals yesterday.

634
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 2: I know, no Kyrie and no Lucas, So how did

635
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 2: they look like that? Well, they defended, they played hard,

636
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 2: they rebounded, They limited Lebron and Ad to thirty nine

637
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 2: combined points. Quentin Grimes somehow that trade with Detroit that

638
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 2: we all kind of didn't talk about a lot for

639
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 2: Tim Hardaway, they both won the trade. Quinn Grimes was

640
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 2: awesome yesterday, and they all just they hit. They all

641
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 2: hit the threes they needed, jayde Hardy three threes, Klay

642
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 2: Thompson three threes. They just did what they needed to

643
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 2: do and that's exactly what got them to the NBA Finals. Obviously,

644
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 2: no Kyrie, no Lucas, so it doesn't feel the same,

645
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 2: but they just played really, really well.

646
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Speaker 4: My final question from last night's games, who had the

647
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Speaker 4: best dunk? Last name your nominees. Obviously I think the

648
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Speaker 4: Zion Williamson three sixty tomahawk there pretty impressive. Lebron James

649
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Speaker 4: at forty years old, cram and won with the left

650
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Speaker 4: hand that had the Lakers bench go and nuts. Trace

651
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 4: Jackson Davis had the highest dunk score of the night

652
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Speaker 4: on a big left hand dunk for him. And then

653
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Speaker 4: we had Cooper Flag throwing one down in college basketball

654
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Speaker 4: and if you caught.

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Speaker 3: That one, the poster ipressive young too young, So you

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Speaker 3: had to pick where would you go?

657
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Speaker 4: Or maybe I'm missing something else.

658
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Speaker 3: I didn't know there was any other choice besides Lebron.

659
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Speaker 3: Have you ever seen that a switch hands dunk in

660
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Speaker 3: traffic with that much power. That was incredible. That's a

661
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Speaker 3: top five dunk this year, maybe top two.

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Speaker 4: What do you think it scored on dunks?

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Speaker 3: I looked. I only cared about the style rating. That

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Speaker 3: should have been one hundred for style rating.

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Speaker 4: Five point seven overall. So what's going on, tast Did

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Speaker 4: you have a favorite from last night?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the lebron one, just because it was a rebound

668
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 2: in sort of a broken play. He kind of had

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Speaker 2: a runway to go at it. I don't know. I

670
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Speaker 2: guess I'm like a dunk scorer, judge, I need to

671
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Speaker 2: find a hole in something and be pessimistic about it.

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Speaker 2: It was an awesome dunk, so that wins a design Williamson,

673
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Speaker 2: maybe just because he's been out for two months. That

674
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Speaker 2: was beautiful.

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Speaker 4: I love those purple jerseys too. Yeah, I think they

676
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 4: look great.

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00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 2: They look nice.

678
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Speaker 4: I just make them their go to jerseys. I think

679
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 4: he looks cool in them. I think that's a part

680
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Speaker 4: of it.

681
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Speaker 3: But it was a big dump, big do Was it gorgeous?

682
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Speaker 4: All right? Tass, I know you've been working on something

683
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 4: here to show some love to some of the point

684
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Speaker 4: guards who are taking a bit of a back seat

685
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Speaker 4: for the betterment of their team.

686
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Speaker 2: Here. Yeah, let's count down the top five point guards

687
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 2: that have sacrificed themselves for their team, put themselves in

688
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 2: their game on the backboard, tom By top.

689
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Speaker 3: Fine, Top five, tom By top Fine, top five.

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Speaker 2: At number five, let's start with Stephen Cray, the guy

691
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 2: just won a gold medal in the Olympics, just finished

692
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 2: off a gold medal performance, hitting bucket after bucket after bucket.

693
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Speaker 2: But coming into the season, he said, Okay, Clay's gone.

694
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Speaker 2: I need to take fewer shots for my team to

695
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 2: get better. This guy is taking three fewer shots per

696
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 2: game than last season. That's the fewer shots he's taken

697
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 2: in a long time. Twenty eleven twenty twelve was the

698
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 2: last time he shout this few shots. It's the lowest

699
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 2: usage rate he's had in a decade. And somehow he's

700
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 2: increased his assists by one assist per game. And it

701
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 2: was working. To start the season. They had the top

702
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 2: four offense in the league after a month. So Steph Curry,

703
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 2: number five, clutch player of the Year last year, comes

704
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 2: into this season says, Okay, I know what I gotta do.

705
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 2: This ain't the Olympics. This is a marathon. And so

706
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 2: he's doing it night in and night out.

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Speaker 3: I would say that this is more the warrior sacrificing

708
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Speaker 3: Steph Curry's stats for the team, because I don't think

709
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Speaker 3: Steph Curry should have the lowest usage rate of his yeah,

710
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Speaker 3: the past fifteen years or whatever you said it is.

711
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Speaker 3: It's just the fact that teams are taking the ball

712
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 3: out of Curry's hands, which adds up to another assist

713
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 3: as well, but fewer shots. Like I would be trying

714
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 3: to get Steph Curry as many shots as possible personally

715
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,959
Speaker 3: on a team that's so bad offensively.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but Buddy Hial can't hit a three to save

717
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 4: his life. Suddenly. Obviously there's no Kaminga now, who at

718
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 4: least is a scorer, and Klay Thompson has moved on,

719
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 4: and Kevin Durant that's a long time ago. Yeah, he

720
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 4: doesn't have a lot of offensive firepower around him. But

721
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Speaker 4: we'll get more into Steph Courre in a second test.

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Speaker 2: At number four, I'm going with John Morant of the

723
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Speaker 2: Memphis Grizzlies because that guy is running, that guy is

724
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Speaker 2: pushing the ball. The Memphis Grizzlies have the fastest pace

725
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Speaker 2: in the NBA, and it's the fastest of Morant's career.

726
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Speaker 2: He's got what do you guys? Laughed out my head.

727
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 2: I started, I started to see that as a as

728
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Speaker 2: it starts to peek down, it happens, It happens. Remember

729
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Speaker 2: we did the G League game last year. I literally

730
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Speaker 2: had him over my my my eyes basically they were

731
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Speaker 2: like a blindfold in.

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Speaker 4: That Canadian myths are great test But I think we

733
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Speaker 4: got to buy you some of the gloves that you

734
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Speaker 4: can use your phone out there with.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well maybe I should do shows outside listen.

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Speaker 3: I would.

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Speaker 2: I've dreamed of being a meteorologist. You see all those

738
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Speaker 2: people who have to deal with hurricanes and the coming

739
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 2: through it. I've always wanted to try it. But after

740
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 2: doing this, Nope, that's difficult work, just like it's difficult

741
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 2: work for John Morant. Game in and game out. That

742
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 2: guy pushes the ball looking at the Grizzly stats. I

743
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 2: don't need my club looking at the Grizzly stats over

744
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 2: a court. Of the Grizzly shots are in transition. They

745
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 2: averaged thirty five points transition games or transition points per game.

746
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 2: That leads the NBA. That's a lot of points per

747
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Speaker 2: game to score and transition how's he doing it. He's

748
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 2: staying fresh. He's playing seven and a half fewer minutes

749
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 2: per games this season, and somehow he's averaging about the

750
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Speaker 2: same number of assists per game as last year his

751
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 2: assists percentage. He's assisting on forty percent of the Grizzlies

752
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 2: possessions while he's on the floor, and he's taking three

753
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 2: fewer shots then last season as well. Just trying to

754
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 2: get everybody involved. The fewest since twenty twenty one for him,

755
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 2: even though he was hurt last year. He didn't come

756
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,439
Speaker 2: into the season say I got a scar. I gotta

757
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 2: do that. He is just doing everything for his team again,

758
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 2: play less, running hard, as Taylor Jenkins says, somehow convinced

759
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 2: everybody to do the same thing. Just go fast. This

760
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 2: guy is athletic, more athletic probably than half the league.

761
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 2: He is playing the fastest possession or pace I should say,

762
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Speaker 2: of his career.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, hopefully we get him back sooner rather than later. Right,

764
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 4: I guess he's been out since last year. At the

765
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 4: end of last year, he's out with this acy joint

766
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 4: spring I think is what the diagnosis is. So yeah,

767
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 4: hopefully he's only played twenty gate twenty five games something

768
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 4: like that, So I think twenty twenty gate joh it

769
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 4: is wow, jeez, yeah, get him back.

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Speaker 2: Not a lot at number three. It's Trey Young. Because

771
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 2: Trey Young isn't just playing iso ball anymore. His baskets

772
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,399
Speaker 2: are being assisted more than ever in his career. Thirty

773
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 2: five percent of his baskets are being assisted. That's a

774
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 2: career high. It was at seventeen percent in the twenty

775
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 2: one twenty two seasons when he went to the conference finals,

776
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 2: but they've bumped up every single season. He's taking his

777
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 2: fewest shots this season and since his rookie year in

778
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen twenty nineteen. His passes are increased. You can

779
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 2: check these stats on NBA dot com. Sixty five passes

780
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 2: per game, by far, the most of his career by

781
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 2: about He's increasing by about ten per game from last season.

782
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 2: He's fourth in passes in the NBA, and he's averaging

783
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 2: the most assists of his career, leading the NBA with

784
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 2: twelve point two assists per game. He assists on forty

785
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 2: five percent of the Hawks baskets. When he's out there,

786
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 2: he's pushing that ball. The Hawks pace is faster, so

787
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 2: Trey isn't just slowly bringing it up so he can

788
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 2: play one on five ball. Hawks are third in the

789
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 2: NBA and pace, and this is the fastest pace since

790
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 2: his first season for him, and his usage rate is

791
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 2: the lowest of his career because he's getting Jalen Johnson

792
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,800
Speaker 2: involved primarily, but everybody involved with the Hawks.

793
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's weird, like Trey Young is having a

794
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 4: really good season obviously the Hawks have, you know, until

795
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 4: that little slide there, we're playing really really solid. But

796
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 4: he can't really shoot still this year. Like that's the

797
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 4: weird thing with Trey. I mean, I know, he hit

798
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 4: a forty nine foot bomb win the game against the

799
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 4: Jazz last night, but he's shooting like thirty four percent

800
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 4: from three. That's low for him. He takes a lot

801
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 4: of them even up from the field. I think he's

802
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 4: like forty percent, probably one of his worst percentages over

803
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 4: his career. So you would imagine that'll tick up. But

804
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 4: it's nice to see him have other guys help him out.

805
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 4: I'm sure he's ecstatic about that.

806
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, he seems bought in to be an unselfish player

807
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 3: this year, which hasn't necessarily been the case in Trey

808
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 3: Young's career, his percentage has gotten better every month. He's

809
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 3: leaning the league in assists. He should be the All

810
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 3: Star from the Hawks. We've talked to is it gonna be?

811
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 3: Is it gonna be Trey Is gonna be Jalen Johnson?

812
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 3: Is it gonna be DeAndre Hunter? Curve ball? It should

813
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,240
Speaker 3: be Trey Young? Not really a question.

814
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think it will be if the Hawks

815
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 4: do get a representative.

816
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 3: Yes, Yeah, I think Trey Young is a lock at

817
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 3: this point.

818
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, And all the coaches will say, Okay, this guy's

819
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 2: been doing it for a long time. As they always do,

820
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 2: they give the guy who's got has had the career

821
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 2: the vote. So I totally agree. I wonder if the

822
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 2: achilles that's bothering him is affecting his shooting percentages. Who knows,

823
00:37:56,280 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 2: but he is having his second lowest true shooting percentage

824
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 2: of his career, so that has dropped off. But obviously

825
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 2: the guy is is ball and he's bought into what

826
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 2: they were looking like when they went to the conference

827
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 2: finals in twenty twenty one, and maybe that got to

828
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 2: his head and he became, you know, more about Trey Young.

829
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,879
Speaker 2: But now he's I think reverted back to that guy

830
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 2: at number two on the top five point guards that

831
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 2: sacrificed themselves. I think it's Jalen Brentson of the New

832
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 2: York next who sacrifice himself for new cat coming in.

833
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 2: He's had to take fewer shots. He was fifteen MVP

834
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 2: voting last season, but he said, we need to do

835
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 2: something else for our team to get even better. He's

836
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 2: gone from twenty eight point seven points last season down

837
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 2: to twenty five point three this season. He took twenty

838
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 2: one point four shots per game. It's down to eighteen

839
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 2: shots per game this season, but his team has improved

840
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 2: because of it. They've gone from the seventh best offense

841
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 2: to the third best offense. Sometimes it's even at first,

842
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 2: but it's dropped off a little bit, and his true

843
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 2: shooting is up to sixty percent, which is the best

844
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 2: true shooting percentage in his New York Knicks career. So

845
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 2: Jalen Bronson is doing what he's got to do to

846
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 2: lead an offense.

847
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would think of all these guys so far

848
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 4: on the list, this is the least surprising to see

849
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,760
Speaker 4: from Jolen Brunson to like sort of take that step

850
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 4: back for the betterment of the team. Obviously the new

851
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 4: pieces coming in. He still shows those games where he

852
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 4: goes for fifty five when needed. But this is like

853
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 4: just he's just sort of built like this. It feels

854
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 4: like he really truly is a point guard, picks his spots,

855
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 4: sort of sets the table. But it's great to see

856
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:30,240
Speaker 4: the two percentage so high.

857
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, he has found the perfect mix. Last year he

858
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 3: was the main offensive engine for the Knicks. But Towns

859
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 3: is such a better offensive player and better like sidekick

860
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 3: than Julius randal Is. Randall wants to be the number

861
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 3: one guy as well. So like he gets he brings

862
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 3: the ball up, gets into his bag and likes to

863
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 3: make plays on his own. Towns will play off of

864
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 3: Brunson a lot more. And I think, to Brunson's credit,

865
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 3: he's realized this guy's incredible. Yeah, he gives me a

866
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 3: lot of space to do the work. I'm still going

867
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 3: to be the man when it comes clutch time. So

868
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 3: let's get Towns forty point game regularly. Let's get him

869
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 3: twenty five a night. We can both get twenty five

870
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,280
Speaker 3: a night, and that makes our offense even better.

871
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 4: Yep.

872
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 2: I'm so glad we've gone to number one because I

873
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 2: took off my glove in my hand. It's literally freezing

874
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,879
Speaker 2: out here. What I need to invest in are those

875
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,280
Speaker 2: gloves where you can scroll.

876
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 3: That's what I was saying. So, yeah, that's what I said.

877
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 2: Yeah I do. I do have them when I run.

878
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 2: But these are nice mits for just hanging out, and

879
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 2: you know they're better for camera. They say Canada across them. Anyways,

880
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,720
Speaker 2: Donovan Mitchell is number one. Donovan Mitchell was the guy

881
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 2: last season. Everything sort of was about him in the media.

882
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 2: Look at this guy, Well, he's shooting everything. He was

883
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 2: ninth in scoring in the NBA last season. He's down

884
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 2: to twenty eighth this season. And his team has gone

885
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 2: from the sixteenth best offense last season, even though everyone

886
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 2: was talking about don Mitchell, they've gone to first because

887
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 2: he's sacrificed. That's a first rating that's even a couple

888
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 2: points better than the Boston Celtics. Now what does he sacrifice, Well,

889
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 2: Darius Garland and Evan Mobley. They are scoring more, they're

890
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 2: shooting more threes, and they're shooting better three point percentages,

891
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 2: both of those guys, and so he's taking a tiny

892
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 2: step back. Mitchell has, but those other guys have obviously

893
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 2: stepped up and he's shooting his best three point percentage

894
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 2: of his career, Donovan Mitchell over forty percent because he's

895
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 2: taking few of them with great passes. I cannot wait

896
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 2: for the playoffs with this guy, because there's so much

897
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 2: talk about this Cleveland Cavaliers team. Maybe it's that team

898
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 2: like the Atlanta Hawks when they won sixty games, a

899
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 2: great regular season team but just doesn't have a superstar

900
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 2: to take over in the playoffs. But this guy has

901
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 2: shown that in the postseason. He's only been to one

902
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 2: conference final, he hasn't been to an NBA finals, but

903
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 2: he's shown that he can do that. And he starts

904
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 2: every Cavalanche I love saying that when they get it

905
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 2: going in Cleveland. So this is a fun look ahead

906
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 2: and it's a fun season for obviously the Cavs, just

907
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 2: to just they're doing things that are unexpected of this team.

908
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're dominating right now. I know we'll get into

909
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 4: the Thunder Cavs game tonight or but he's excited for

910
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 4: that one at seven pm on ESPN. But Mitchell, he's

911
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 4: got a healthy Garland Now. I think that's a huge

912
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 4: part of the equation that guy in a rough year

913
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 4: last year where he was in and out with all

914
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 4: those crazy injuries, and then Mobley's leveling up obviously just

915
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 4: getting more experience. He's hitting threes now, Mitchell can like

916
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 4: pick his spots to sort of take over quarters and

917
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 4: takeover games. And that's why they have like the best record.

918
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,399
Speaker 3: In the league. Yeah, only twenty three, four and five

919
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,720
Speaker 3: for Donovan Mitchell, which means he's probably gonna get screwed

920
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 3: in All NBA when it comes to it, Like the

921
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 3: Cats are the best team in the league with one

922
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 3: of the best offenses in the league. You think he

923
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 3: should be an All NBA first teamer. But because he's

924
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,240
Speaker 3: been so unselfish and bought into the ball movement system

925
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 3: that Kenny Atkinson brought, his numbers are depressed. But it's

926
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 3: also Darius Garland playing better than he was last season

927
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 3: and being more confident where he's gonna get his shots.

928
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 3: Mobley has certainly taken a step forward and having less

929
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 3: on his plate I think is better for Donovan Mitchell.

930
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 3: It felt like last year when push comes to the shove,

931
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 3: we're just going pick and roll for Donovan Mitchell. You

932
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 3: figure it out, maybe somebody will make a play if

933
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 3: you get them a shot. That's not the case anymore.

934
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 3: He will get off the ball. Maybe it'll come back

935
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 3: to him. He's getting assisted on more three pointers than

936
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 3: he has since he came to Cleveland. He just seems

937
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 3: to understand that I'm still going to be the man

938
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 3: when it comes down to it, but we need everybody

939
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 3: to be playing well, the play our best.

940
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's grown up for him to sign an extension

941
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 2: this past offseason, even though, yes, there's a lot of

942
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 2: talk about him last year and he was an All Star,

943
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 2: he didn't make an All NBA team. There could have

944
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 2: been more for him. And then they go into the

945
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 2: playoffs and yeah, the Boston Celtics ran over them, and

946
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 2: so he could have said, I want to go to

947
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 2: a bigger market, but to sign and to play this way,

948
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 2: he really has changed.

949
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,800
Speaker 4: All right. So the top five point guards sacrificing themselves

950
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 4: for their team, Steph Curry, John Morant, Trey Young, Jalen Brunson,

951
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 4: and Donovan Mitchell. Good stuff there, Tassi. Let's talk more

952
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 4: about Steph Curry though, the guy that led your list,

953
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 4: because in a recent interview with ESPN Warrior Superstar, Steph

954
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 4: Curry shared his thoughts on his team's two timeline approach,

955
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 4: which began with the twenty twenty NBA Draft. That was

956
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 4: the year the Warriors took James one Heisman, and then

957
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,800
Speaker 4: they followed that up by taking Kaminga and Moody in

958
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 4: twenty twenty one. The idea was to like bridge the

959
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 4: gap between the Dynasty Corps and the future, and despite

960
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 4: capturing the title in twenty twenty two, Curry believes now

961
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 4: that strategy has been scrutinized harshly in hindsight. In the article,

962
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 4: Curry also sent a clear message, I thought, at least

963
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 4: to the Warriors' front office. He said, quote, I just

964
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 4: want to win, and they know that. Until it's all

965
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 4: said and done, we want to have at least one

966
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 4: more title to speak for. And that's it. That's what's

967
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,879
Speaker 4: left for me. That's all of it. I still love

968
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 4: the hoop, but I love to win even more. You

969
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 4: read the article, I'm sure TK Tassy as well. Try

970
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 4: to start with your thoughts. So what'd you think of this?

971
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 4: Trey talking about the two timeline how it sort of

972
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,359
Speaker 4: didn't really work, and then really, like again, I think

973
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,919
Speaker 4: like a little bit of pressure from Steph Curry like, hey,

974
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:51,800
Speaker 4: I got one more in me, but you got to

975
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 4: get the roster around me to get me there.

976
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 3: That's exactly what it was. He said, why is this

977
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 3: had a tough run? I agree, call them wise, but

978
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 3: I don't know. Steph Curry never does anything like this,

979
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 3: which is why it hit so hard. I think because

980
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 3: this is a critical moment. You could tell after the

981
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 3: game last night they got blown out by a Heat

982
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 3: team playing on the second night of a back to back,

983
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 3: after a double overtime game without Jimmy Butler. It was bad.

984
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 3: Steph Curry's walking around looking despondent. In the postgame press conference,

985
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 3: Steve Kerr brings up Twitter charts, saying that our team

986
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 3: is at the bottom and combined layups and free throws,

987
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 3: it's a personnel based issue and that's a question for

988
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 3: the front office. That to me felt a little bit

989
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 3: like a concerted effort to say we need something to

990
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 3: happen here, because it's not just happening with Steph. Like

991
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 3: Tass said, he's sacrificing himself. But that's because it's so

992
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 3: easy for teams to defend the Warriors. They know we

993
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 3: just got to get the ball out of Steph's hands,

994
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 3: he might make a tough shot at the end of

995
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 3: the possession if he's able to get open for I

996
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 3: think they called it a fingernail of space is what

997
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:58,320
Speaker 3: Gary Payton's second called it. Very great term. Maybe that'll happen,

998
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 3: but if the ball doesn't get back, stuff, you're living

999
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 3: with the results of literally anybody else on the Warriors

1000
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 3: trying to make a play, trying to create a shot,

1001
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 3: or just taking a jumper. Everything seems tough for the

1002
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 3: Warriors right now. So between Curry and Kurr last night,

1003
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 3: it definitely felt like they're saying, the three man people

1004
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 3: here think we can win. Kerr, Draymond and Curry. We

1005
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 3: need to figure out the rest of it. And the

1006
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 3: clock is ticking because it Steph Curry really going to

1007
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 3: be okay with the Kobe Bryant three year farewell tour,

1008
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 3: That's what the Lakers did. They played out the end

1009
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 3: of Kobe's career. Same with the Mavericks and Dirknovitski. That's

1010
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 3: what happened. Is Curry happy with that? He sounds like

1011
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 3: he wants to one to win another title?

1012
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, is this how you read it? Tasks like

1013
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 4: this for at least for a guy like Steph. Curry

1014
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 4: rarely does stuff like this. Was this him sort of

1015
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 4: subtenly or not so suddenly applying a little bit of

1016
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:51,399
Speaker 4: pressure to the Warrior's front office, like, hey, let's get

1017
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,240
Speaker 4: some new guys in here, or let's do something.

1018
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, the winds are blowing in Golden State and

1019
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 2: here in Atlanta that there needs to be something done.

1020
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 2: I think that's clear. Steph, we're at sixteen years, has

1021
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 2: never done anything like this. Sixteen years of his career.

1022
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 2: He's been super quiet. And the comparisons to the Spurs

1023
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 2: dynasty are are accurate in that their leader kept it

1024
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 2: in house, and Tim Duncan always kept it in house,

1025
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 2: and so did Steph. But for him to verbally say

1026
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 2: that for kir Toby quoting Twitter charts, which is odd.

1027
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:30,240
Speaker 2: I think it's all in the same sort of realm.

1028
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 2: We got to change if we want to win. Steph

1029
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 2: has done everything for Golden State. He's done everything for

1030
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 2: a new arena being built, everything for that franchise and

1031
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 2: the fan base, and they're able to win four. That's,

1032
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 2: you know, obviously an incredible accomplishment. But he wants five,

1033
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 2: and I think they have you know these new eyes

1034
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,919
Speaker 2: in the front office with Mike Dunlevy leading the front

1035
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 2: office the ability to do that. They do have a

1036
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,879
Speaker 2: team that's looking to win and to get better, led

1037
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 2: by a franchise that's a front office. I should say

1038
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 2: that with that idea, and I think the Dennis Schruder

1039
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:11,479
Speaker 2: trade obviously it hasn't worked. They need somebody to take

1040
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 2: his spot and put Dennis Hruder to the bench where

1041
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 2: Chris Paul was last year running a second unit. That's

1042
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 2: where Dennis Schruder belongs. He is not a guy who

1043
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 2: really works off the ball all that well. He needs

1044
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 2: to run an offense and that's what he could do

1045
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 2: with the second unit. So as soon as they make

1046
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 2: a trade, they will be much better off. But that

1047
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 2: exactly what happened last night is what you know we

1048
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 2: talked about with the point guards that have sacrificed themselves.

1049
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 2: Steph had a great game because he is one of

1050
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 2: the best players ever, but he just doesn't have the

1051
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 2: supporting cast. It It just hasn't. It hasn't materialized at all.

1052
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 2: Even if we talk about I know Cominga's hurt, but

1053
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,760
Speaker 2: even with Kaminga there, they just don't have a number

1054
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 2: two offensive player.

1055
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 4: And you said this the other day, Trey, and it

1056
00:48:56,680 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 4: stuck with me, this second timeline that the Warriors from office,

1057
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 4: or at least some people in their front office seem

1058
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 4: so fond of that idea. It starts when Curry is gone.

1059
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 4: That's the second timeline, this whole thing of trying to

1060
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,399
Speaker 4: bridge the gap. And it sounded cute and sounded good.

1061
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 4: It just like it sort of blew up in their

1062
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 4: face for being honest because they maybe held on to

1063
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 4: these young guys in these prospects when they should have

1064
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 4: been pushing the chips in a little bit more aggressively

1065
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 4: for players that could maybe help Curry and Draymond continue

1066
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 4: to win at a high level or compete at a

1067
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 4: high level. Once he's gone this, you know you're going

1068
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 4: to be in the dark days of the NBA. I'm sorry,

1069
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 4: you just are, like, no matter who's there or whatever

1070
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:37,879
Speaker 4: young prospects you have there, it's very tough to sort

1071
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 4: of balance the two. But man, this is a weird

1072
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 4: final stage of Curry's career. You're right, and you don't

1073
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 4: want to see it. Similar to the way sort of

1074
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 4: Kobe's went to and Dirk's to some extent, and nor

1075
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 4: to Steph, and I think Steph's playing at a higher

1076
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 4: level in both of those guys were at the end

1077
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,399
Speaker 4: of their career still, just with the way he plays

1078
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 4: the game.

1079
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I guess Kobe got the twenty seasons right.

1080
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 3: Dirk was pretty close, So Curry's getting there. We'll see

1081
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 3: what the last three or four years of his career alike.

1082
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:05,800
Speaker 3: But I don't know. They got lucky to get a

1083
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,720
Speaker 3: number two pick because Curry went out played five games.

1084
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 3: I guess that was what the nineteen twenty season or

1085
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 3: something like that, broke his hand. Whatever they locked into

1086
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 3: getting Wiseman. Imagine if they took Lamela, they probably do

1087
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 3: have the two timelines and it's getting stretched out. At

1088
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,800
Speaker 3: least you've got somebody going forward. But they picked Wiseman

1089
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 3: didn't work. Their best draft pick in the past ten

1090
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,800
Speaker 3: years has been Jordan Poole, who was instrumental in getting

1091
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 3: them a title, and then obviously Grahamam punched him in

1092
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 3: the face and they shipped out Pool.

1093
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1094
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes you just got to get lucky. I don't

1095
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 2: think the Spurs really planned a second timeline, but when

1096
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:39,320
Speaker 2: they happened to draft Kawhi and they grew him into something.

1097
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 2: They said, Okay, now we can move this direction, and

1098
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 2: it was successful for a while. But the hey we

1099
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 2: got a number two pick, James Wiseman, just do it.

1100
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:50,439
Speaker 2: That obviously did not work.

1101
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:54,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, but now they have the option they should at least,

1102
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 4: I think, because you owe it to Curry to make

1103
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 4: these moves. To make a drastic move too. I mean,

1104
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 4: Dennis Shruoter's Denis Shruoterer not going to move the needle

1105
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,399
Speaker 4: on winning a championship to make a really big move

1106
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 4: to get a co star. This is really what we're

1107
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 4: getting out here. Every championship for Curry, he's had a

1108
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 4: co star, so to speak, and you generally need that

1109
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 4: in the NBA and Draymond Green's your defensive stud, but

1110
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 4: he's not your offensive coast star.

1111
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 3: So they need that.

1112
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,359
Speaker 4: And he needs that, and they should be going all

1113
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,280
Speaker 4: in because have they done enough to create a roster

1114
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 4: here to allow Steph Curry to have a chance at

1115
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 4: his fifth title? I don't think so right now as

1116
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 4: currently constructed.

1117
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 3: Not even close. Yeah, you have to play perfectly for

1118
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:30,399
Speaker 3: them to win.

1119
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 4: Yeah. Great article. I'm going to put it in the

1120
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 4: show notes and encourage everyone to read it. My favorite part,

1121
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 4: or one of my favorite parts from this was talk

1122
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 4: about Curry building his fortune sort of off the floor.

1123
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 4: Just made me laugh. Quote he has television shows and commercials,

1124
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,799
Speaker 4: his own shoe brand, and a bourbon. And then this

1125
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 4: was Curry within the article saying, nice little heat to it.

1126
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 4: He says, as if reading from the distiller's notes, not

1127
00:51:55,360 --> 00:52:00,879
Speaker 4: too overpowering, some flavorful notes, some caramel end quote. There

1128
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 4: so still great selling his bourbon within this great article

1129
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 4: about the paradox of what the warriors are doing with him.

1130
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 2: That sounded like Jay Skeet's talking about a potato chip

1131
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 2: that has heat to it, doesn't it. I immediately thought

1132
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 2: of Skeets, Oh this is this I would ask talking

1133
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 2: about sometimes you get a barbecue sauce.

1134
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 4: I'm gott to try this bourbon. I'm interested. He sold

1135
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 4: me on it stuff.

1136
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 3: I liked the question do you look at the season

1137
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 3: as eighty two one act plays or one long novel

1138
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:33,800
Speaker 3: with eighty two chapters?

1139
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 4: He liked that question too. He's like, WHOA, that's that's awesome.

1140
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 4: That's writing for you, And he said it's it's changed

1141
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 4: his perspective, did he not?

1142
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 3: I think I think he said, it's eighty two one

1143
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 3: act plays now, and it used to be one long

1144
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 3: novel with eighty two chapters. He's like, I got to

1145
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 3: prepare so much for this one thing. It takes it

1146
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:50,800
Speaker 3: all out of me.

1147
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1148
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I really am interested into When this entire interview

1149
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 2: took place, it just seemed like such a big piece

1150
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 2: that a lot of the part arts happened in October November,

1151
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 2: and so this was almost just well timed here to release.

1152
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 4: It and sit on it for when the Warriors are

1153
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 4: still Yeah, just wait, but it does feel like a

1154
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,720
Speaker 4: different lifetime ago that the Warriors started twelve and three.

1155
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:16,439
Speaker 3: Is that what they were?

1156
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1157
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,959
Speaker 4: Wow, No, that was this season, yes, and then things

1158
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 4: went poorly, so we'll see what they do. Great stuff,

1159
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 4: really really interesting article up on ESPN. Okay, so tonight's

1160
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 4: pick them game.

1161
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 3: We'll get to the.

1162
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 4: Actual picks in a second. But we got to hype

1163
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 4: this game a little bit because we have the thirty

1164
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 4: and five Oklahoma City Thunder visiting the thirty one and

1165
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 4: four Cleveland Cavaliers. You do not get too many regular

1166
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 4: season games of this magnitude where teams are both playing.

1167
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 3: This well some numbers to know. I like that ESPN,

1168
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 3: the NBA.

1169
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 4: You know a lot of the media partners trying to

1170
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 4: hype this up because we should be. You see here

1171
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 4: a few just stats. I'm going to give you first

1172
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 4: matchup in NBA history between a team on a fifteen

1173
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,919
Speaker 4: game win streak and a team on a ten game

1174
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:05,359
Speaker 4: win streak in the Cavaliers. That sort of blew my mind.

1175
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:07,720
Speaker 4: I mean, those are long win streaks, but first time ever.

1176
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 4: That's fun. Second time in NBA history that multiple teams

1177
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 4: have won at least thirty of their first thirty five

1178
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 4: games in the same season, because both these teams have

1179
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 4: done that. The Lakers and Bucks back in seventy one

1180
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 4: seventy two had hot, hot starts. That's where we're at

1181
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 4: with OKC in Cleveland. And then you see the net

1182
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 4: ratings there the highest point differentials. Thunder and Calves have

1183
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 4: the fourth and fifth highest point differentials of all time, respectively.

1184
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 4: That's great. So tass pumped about this one? Is our

1185
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 4: pickham game? And what's the line on this Where does

1186
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 4: Vegas think about this game?

1187
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 2: Well, it's in Cleveland, so they automatically get a couple points,

1188
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 2: I suppose, and that's why it's three and a half.

1189
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 2: I mean, it just feels like home team gets a

1190
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 2: couple points in this one. Although I knew you guys

1191
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 2: were going to be totally comfortable taking okay See. They're

1192
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 2: the hot team, and I maybe I'm just a stub

1193
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 2: man who's looking for a shed as well. I took Cleveland.

1194
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 2: They're at home, they deserve the respect, and we'll see

1195
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 2: what they can do with it. It is funny at

1196
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 2: this point, number one, to see everybody hyping this game.

1197
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,319
Speaker 2: Number that has to happen more. We need more of that,

1198
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,720
Speaker 2: just in general, more hyping of games. And the second

1199
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:23,240
Speaker 2: part is these streaks that they're on with Oka See,

1200
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:25,760
Speaker 2: and they did lose the NBA Cup in the middle

1201
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 2: of this streak, so that's that's always funny. But I

1202
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 2: really just picked the home team. And again because I'm

1203
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,359
Speaker 2: a stubborn in this one, I have no idea if

1204
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 2: Okay's going to be able to stop the great Cleveland offense,

1205
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 2: top defense of okay See against the top Cleveland offense.

1206
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 2: Okay See is so good at pressuring that ball around

1207
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 2: the perimeter, and Cleveland is just so good at spreading

1208
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 2: the ball around that perimeter, so I think they can

1209
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 2: pass it around enough to avoid Okay, see steals, but

1210
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 2: that's what they do best, so we will see.

1211
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:57,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, hopefully it lives up to the hype.

1212
00:55:57,760 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 4: What will you be watching this game? You obviously have OKC,

1213
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 4: I do as well, so does ash task the only

1214
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 4: one taking the Caves by three and a half. But

1215
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 4: is there a player or something you're watching in particular

1216
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:07,320
Speaker 4: of this potentially NBA Finals preview?

1217
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 3: I would like to see Donovan Mitchell and shake Yilles

1218
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 3: Alexander somehow end up matched up on each other. I

1219
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,359
Speaker 3: know Donovan out made it Shay, so I'm hoping that

1220
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:18,760
Speaker 3: Shae is looking for his revenge. But the main reason

1221
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 3: I picked the Thunder is like they how many times

1222
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 3: have they been an underdog this season?

1223
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1224
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 3: Far between? Gotta be less than five. Yeah, I mean

1225
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 3: I'm sure surely on the wind streak they haven't.

1226
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 4: So yeah gious. Wow, that's a funny point. If Shae

1227
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 4: and the Thunder do get this win, there will be

1228
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 4: some reference in Shay's like Instagram post to the skims, right,

1229
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,919
Speaker 4: like sure, like some reference when he does his little

1230
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 4: bars that he always does every couples on the skins.

1231
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 3: I need for him. You just wrote it for him.

1232
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 4: I'm good, all right, So hopefully it lives up to

1233
00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 4: the hype that one's on ESPN at seven pm Eastern.

1234
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 4: Thunder Calves can't wait before we go another exciting game

1235
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:08,799
Speaker 4: this weekend the College scott Is College Park, excuse me,

1236
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:13,399
Speaker 4: Skyhawk's game here in Atlanta. We're gonna be on the

1237
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 4: call once again. They're inviting us back, and it's kids day,

1238
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 4: It's Blue Day here on Sunday. This game is at

1239
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 4: two pm Eastern here in Atlanta, and I believe you

1240
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 4: can seek this game out on the YouTube channels and

1241
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 4: we're gonna be on the call once again. So I

1242
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 4: guess we did a well enough job last year. As

1243
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 4: we said, it's not it's not easy to call a

1244
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 4: game live.

1245
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 3: But we're excited.

1246
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 4: And man, I hope I get a photo with Blue.

1247
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 4: I guess I gotta get there early.

1248
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 3: That probably the big line, I assume. So I can't

1249
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 3: wait to see Tony Bradley. Yeah, that's a College Park

1250
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 3: Skyhawk five for five in Game three of the first

1251
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 3: round of the twenty twenty one Playoffs.

1252
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 4: Well, is it correct that the last game we called

1253
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 4: was the Kobe Buffkin game where he went nuts for forty.

1254
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 4: That's right. So maybe it's maybe Keaton Wallace goes nuts

1255
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 4: in this one task. He's been playing well. But anyway,

1256
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:09,919
Speaker 4: are you pumped about this? You're gonna be in side.

1257
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 4: I thought it'll be good.

1258
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was. I was there on Sunday. I saw

1259
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 2: Tony Bradley live. They were they were all they were

1260
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 2: all high five, high fiving him as he had a

1261
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 2: defensive three second in the paint call. You know how

1262
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 2: sometimes teams are like, yes, that means you're playing defense,

1263
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 2: good stuff, even though the other team Henry Allenson, Yeah

1264
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 2: he got the free throw for the Wisconsin herd our

1265
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 2: Man who looks like Ben Gulliver. Let's be Yeah. So yeah,

1266
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 2: it's a fun, fun time. You got to have a

1267
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 2: VIP pass if you're going to get a photo with

1268
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 2: Blue apparently a big time and people Blue Blue is

1269
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 2: huge apparently.

1270
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, we're very excited. That's on Sunday. We'll

1271
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 4: keep reminding you as the rest of the week goes on.

1272
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 4: All right, task, great work. I know you tried to

1273
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 4: show us your breath early on. Yeah, but there was

1274
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 4: parts where you're just talking and it is like it's crazy.

1275
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 2: How to hold it?

1276
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, look at it right now. Just you breathe in here.

1277
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, every time you try to do it, it doesn't

1278
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 4: do it.

1279
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 2: Is my breath changes, I push it. Yeah, it's weird.

1280
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:21,439
Speaker 2: The actual air coming out of my mouth change. Yeah,

1281
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 2: it's it's chilly out here. That was a little rosy today.

1282
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I do like that.

1283
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Speaker 4: It's getting colder and colder as the week goes on,

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Speaker 4: and hopefully we get that snow on Friday. But task,

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Speaker 3: We're back tomorrow. Until then, cover of Bros. You heard

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Speaker 3: it here first, have a great time, turn up. Love

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Speaker 3: you guys awesome.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, and remember Skims the company is

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Speaker 2: a partner of NBA, which is odd.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I saw them in a Google search the other day

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Speaker 2: when I was I was looking, I believe I was

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Speaker 2: looking up what Jim Peterson, Wolves color commentator, the great

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Speaker 2: Wolves color commentator, when he said the word nipple on

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Speaker 2: a basketball floor. He's trying to he was calling a spot.

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Speaker 2: This is the nipple of a basketball floor. So when

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Speaker 2: I looked it up, I think skims came up in

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Speaker 2: my Google search. That's all I have to say. That's

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Speaker 2: why I saw it, and I'm sticking.

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Speaker 3: To Commissioner Silver also wears skims. Yeah, eight people