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Speaker 2: Now, I say living the dream, but I tell you

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Speaker 3: Our producer Ian, my co host Nikki.

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Speaker 2: And thousands of other people on the god forsaken four

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Speaker 2: play a little overtime today. We've got Iowa Sam in

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Speaker 2: the building.

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Speaker 4: Sam.

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Speaker 3: It's great to see you today.

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Speaker 2: Is this all about you being here with your cyclones

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Speaker 2: in Dublin today?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, nice momentum building win for them. It was kind

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Speaker 5: of a sloppy game, but they got to do that

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Speaker 5: was sloppy.

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Speaker 2: why are we playing games in Dublin? Uh, Isaac Low

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Speaker 3: So we're gonna hold great to have all you guys

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Speaker 2: All right, So we got a lot of ground to cover,

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Speaker 2: and I do want to get to the whole idea

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Speaker 2: of why we're opening a college football season in Dublin, Ireland.

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Speaker 2: But first we gotta we got to address, uh, what

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Speaker 2: happening are still happening right now in this preseason matchup

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Speaker 2: between the Rams and the Browns. Inside two minutes to

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Speaker 2: go and obviously a very meaningless game right now, although

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Speaker 2: things could change dramatically because we have one guy in

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Speaker 2: this game that desperately is trying to come up with

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Speaker 2: some positive takeaway. You only give a little taste of

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Speaker 2: what has happened to him already today, Sam, can you

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Speaker 2: play this low light from Shadour Sanders day added the.

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Speaker 6: Shotgun on second down, Sanders backpedaling, pressured again, spins away,

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Speaker 7: So he's not getting the open receivers and he's starting

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Speaker 7: to develop drift back into some of his bad habits

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Speaker 7: drifting back there. You have two negative plays that lose.

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Speaker 7: I can't even how many yards was that one? Our

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Speaker 7: great statistician, right there twenty two yard sack. You can't

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Speaker 7: take a twenty two yard sack in the National Football League.

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Speaker 2: All right, So Schadeur Sanders. By the way, the Browns

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Speaker 2: down one have been Shadoor Sanders, and they have brought

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Speaker 3: Winning field goal.

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Speaker 2: So here was an opportunity if you're committed to Shardoor

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Speaker 2: Sanders saying, all right, forget everything that's happened. We're going

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Speaker 2: to give you like a two minute run here, try

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Speaker 2: game with a field goal. Instead, Sanders gets benched. So

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Speaker 3: Played nobody today.

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Speaker 2: In fact, the Rams have played the entire game with

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Speaker 2: dresser Win at quarterback. I challenge anybody out there to

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Speaker 2: tell me where this guy came from. Dresser Win, Bo,

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Speaker 2: have you ever heard the name dresser Win?

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Speaker 3: Anybody? He played in the UFL last year?

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Speaker 2: I believe UFL. There you go, Dresser Win. He's played

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Speaker 2: the entire game for the Rams. So the Rams played

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Speaker 2: Dylan Gabriel came in twelve of nineteen hundred and twenty

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Speaker 3: Then they handed the ball to Shadoor Sanders.

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Speaker 2: Keep in mind he's going against the Rams second third string.

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Speaker 2: Rams roster on opening day. Three or six, fourteen yards

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Speaker 2: Chadour Sanders. Now, if you were to base his future

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Speaker 2: with the Browns on this game, he will be released tomorrow. Now,

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Speaker 2: I again, if people kept shaking their heads about Shudoor

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Speaker 2: my dear friend Eric Dickerson breaking the story this week

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Speaker 2: going to give anything out that isn't true, all right,

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Speaker 2: So I trust Eric one hundred percent when he says

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Speaker 2: All right, let's hear my buddy ed And this is

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Speaker 2: what he had to say about the NFL basically complying.

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Speaker 3: To not draft Shudoor Sanders.

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Speaker 8: And I'll tell you as much here what I and

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Speaker 8: what I heard from someone that's in the NFL that

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Speaker 8: the NFL put it told of the don't draft him,

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Speaker 8: do not draft him. We're gonna make him, We're gonna

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Speaker 8: make an example out of him. And this came from

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Speaker 8: a very good source, a very good source. And he

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Speaker 8: said that I won't say who. Somebody called the Cleveland

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Speaker 8: don't don't. Don't do that, because they weren't drafted either.

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Speaker 2: They Yeah, the whole You remember, you remember when Cleveland

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Speaker 2: Dylan Gabriel in the third round. And you know, now

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Speaker 2: they have the cameras inside these draft rooms and you're

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Speaker 3: And it didn't matter.

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Speaker 2: It could be a six to seven round pick, you know,

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, we got.

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Speaker 2: The guy we want, got the guy we want when

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Speaker 2: they had the cameras set on them. After drafting Shadoor Sanders,

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Speaker 2: stone faced across the board.

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Speaker 3: So why did the Browns.

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Speaker 2: Draft Shoodoor Sanders If they didn't want Shadoor Sanders, you

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Speaker 2: drafted Dylan Gabriel in the third round, why would you

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Speaker 2: use a fifth round pick on Shoodoor Sanders. Didn't make

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Speaker 2: any sense then, doesn't make any sense now. But now,

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Speaker 2: of course the Browns have got themselves a problem.

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Speaker 3: It's a pr problem.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: This week they announced that Joe Flacco is going to

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Speaker 2: should be your starting quarterback. Today, Shadoor Sanders showed why

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Speaker 2: he was not ever considered an elite quarterback prospect, because

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Speaker 2: to be an elite quarterback you have to do two things. One,

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Speaker 2: Helps when you have a receiver like Travis Hunter. But

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Speaker 2: that aside, he was able to get the ball there.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't have a canon arm, nothing close to that,

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Speaker 2: but in a controlled situation, he could get the ball

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Speaker 2: To be an elite quarterback, Throwing the ball accurately is

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Speaker 2: half of what you need. The other half is making

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Speaker 2: the right decision when the ball is snapped and his

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Speaker 2: never play in the NFL, ever, so this is going

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Speaker 2: to be a very interesting week. Flacco is your starting

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Speaker 2: quarterback in the battle between Dylan Gabriel and Schoudeur Sanders.

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Speaker 2: Gabriel wins and Shouldur loses, You're going to keep both

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Speaker 2: of them, to keep him on the practice squad. Are

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Speaker 2: chudor Sanders? And the pr fallout for the Browns is

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Speaker 2: gonna be horrific because if they.

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Speaker 3: Release him, oh, people are going to be all over them.

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Speaker 2: Label it any way you want, because should Or Sanders

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Speaker 2: is someone and this always gets back to you don't

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Speaker 2: want to do this for someone that is not a

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Speaker 2: starting player. Should door Sanders was competing to be a

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Speaker 2: backup quarterback for the Cleveland Browns, But he's getting the

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Speaker 2: So the Browns have done so many things.

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Speaker 3: Wrong, so many things wrong.

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Speaker 2: That Deshaun Watson signing was a catastrophe, so you're still

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Speaker 2: dealing with that. But drafting Chaudeur Sanders could even be

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Speaker 2: a bigger pr nightmare for the Browns. And this is

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Speaker 2: not that I'm rooting against him, it's just who he

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Speaker 2: is as a quarterback. Think about this. In the college game,

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Speaker 2: sacks are counted as rushing yards. If you ever wonder

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Speaker 2: why it is that you see these players with negative

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Speaker 2: in the NFL are not. Rushing yards are a separate category,

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Speaker 2: so they're not counted as rushing yards against the quarterback

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Speaker 2: when the quarterback gets sacked, but in the college game

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Speaker 2: they are, And in both of his years at Colorado

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Speaker 2: he finished the season with negative rushing yards. We're in

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Speaker 2: an era now where you need quarterbacks that can win

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Speaker 2: And if you're not capable of winning with your legs, then.

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Speaker 3: You better be.

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Speaker 2: You better have super human talent in throwing the football,

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Speaker 2: and Shardeor Sanders does not have that. So it was

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Speaker 2: a catastrophe for Shardoor Sanders today and a catastrophe for

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Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 3: By the way, Tyler Huntley came in as they bent

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Speaker 3: Shardoor Sanders on that final drive and actually just led

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Speaker 2: So Flack will play great dealing, Gabriel played great, and

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Speaker 2: on that final drive, Tyler Huntley played great, and Shadoor

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Speaker 2: Coming up, we got a lot more going on. Nikky's

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Speaker 3: Including why it is that we had to watch the

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Speaker 3: opening game of the college football season in Dublin. Ire in.

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Speaker 2: so e and our producer finally made his way through

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Speaker 2: People that don't live in southern California, we are actually

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Speaker 2: It is a nightmare, now, Ian, you were coming on

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Speaker 2: Okay, that was this because of an accident? Was there

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Speaker 2: You know why it wasn't that bad Because there was

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Speaker 12: Yes, the rest of the time it's been Carmageddon.

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Speaker 5: Though this didn't have any warning, no warning, and so

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Speaker 3: I mean, how much traffic is there? Oh, I'm coming.

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Speaker 3: See I'm coming from a different direction. I'm coming up

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Speaker 3: midst of what is that midst midst? Thank you very much, Sam,

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Speaker 3: midst of this and she'll get here when she gets here. Okay,

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Speaker 3: Well I'm glad Iowa Sam is here today because first

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Speaker 3: of all, I'm watching this game between Iowa Stayed and

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Speaker 4: That there was ESPN.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, here's what I don't understand when you are

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Speaker 2: Iowa State Kansas State both projected to be very solid

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Speaker 8: No?

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Speaker 3: Okay, next person, how many points do you get awarded

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Speaker 3: one question after another. So I'm thinking to myself, ro.

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Speaker 2: We have decided to open the college football season Week

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Speaker 2: zero with two top twenty five teams.

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Speaker 3: So it's a big game for both these teams in

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Speaker 3: a place that has no clue about college football? What

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Speaker 3: is the point? Dublin used to be a nice place

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Speaker 3: where Notre Dame used to play at Dublin. All right,

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Speaker 3: people know Notre Dame at Dublin. I'm sure they know

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Speaker 3: Notre Dame. You know, they don't know.

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Speaker 2: They don't know Kansas State, and they don't know Iowa State.

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Speaker 2: They could not point out on a map where the

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Speaker 2: this game played in Dublin, Ireland? I got it when

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Speaker 2: no sense. What about Florida State and Georgia Tech last year?

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Speaker 3: No sense I said the same thing last year.

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Speaker 5: They did a good crowd though here for this game. Okay,

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Speaker 5: a lot of Iowa State fans. It was like good, good,

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 2: I will give it to the Iowa State and Kansas

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Speaker 2: the pouring rain in Dublin, Ireland. The game was, unfortunately

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Speaker 3: And they're like, oh man, it was slippery balls. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's a problem. But again, okay, so what did we

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Speaker 3: prove it?

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Speaker 2: In states like Kansas and Iowa where there is no

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Speaker 3: That's all they got. So they yeah, they'll.

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Speaker 2: Travel, and hey, let's make a trip and let's go

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Speaker 2: to Dublin, Ireland.

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Speaker 3: No, not on Dublin.

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Speaker 2: But there's no reason to have this game there, especially

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Speaker 2: a game that actually matters, because it mattered for both

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Speaker 5: Today, it's the air Lingus College Football Kickoff Classic the

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Speaker 5: air Lingis.

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Speaker 12: By the way, Steve, didn't your beloved Bruins once play

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Speaker 12: a regulation college basketball game against Georgia Tech in China?

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Speaker 2: Yes, well I know why they did, and we know

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Speaker 2: we know what happened with that game.

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Speaker 3: Yes, we do. Yes, what They're arrested and in prison.

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Speaker 3: One of the ball brothers, the one that didn't matter. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that guy. So again, this fascinating.

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Speaker 2: I've said this about the NFL, this fascination about bringing

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Speaker 2: American football overseas.

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Speaker 3: Stop it.

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Speaker 4: Stop it.

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Speaker 2: The rest of the world has football. We have football.

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Speaker 2: We don't have to share it with the rest of

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Speaker 2: the world. Play making plenty of money here in the

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Speaker 2: United States, on both the professional and collegiate levels.

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Speaker 3: Stop.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I think Dublin's tourism bureau is pretty happy about this.

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Speaker 5: They get a late August you know, Oh, don't give

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Speaker 5: me this crap, a bunch of America.

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Speaker 3: You know what, Sam, you're you're.

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Speaker 2: If Iowa State had lost that game, you would be

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Speaker 2: curse like, why was this game played there?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I know they're Wildcat fans saying it right now?

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Speaker 3: What was that about?

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Speaker 2: We played in some deluge in Dublin, Ireland in a

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Speaker 5: Why are we there, Well, I know Iowa State because

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Speaker 5: of their massive budget shortfall because of a bunch of stuff.

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Speaker 5: They're like, we have one fewer home game this year,

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Speaker 5: so that's going to impact our bottom line.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, we were also going to get into,

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Speaker 2: you know, the whole change in landscape is college football

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Speaker 2: because you know the college football Playoff.

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Speaker 3: I knew this was going to happen last year. I

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Speaker 3: forewarned everybody.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: You remember how we used to complain about the BCS

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Speaker 2: championship game. Remember how we used to complain about that

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Speaker 2: where we you know, some computer system would decide which

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Speaker 2: two teams should face off in a so called And

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Speaker 2: by the way, all of these are mythical national championships.

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Speaker 2: There has never been an NCAA champion in Division one

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Speaker 2: football ever.

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Speaker 3: Stop with that, Steve. There's never been one. You always

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Speaker 3: on this horse.

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Speaker 2: Every single sport, at every single level, Division two, Division

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Speaker 2: three FCS men's women's there is an NCAA champion except

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Speaker 2: for one sport, Division one football. So when people talk

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Speaker 2: the answer to all of them is zero. There has

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Speaker 2: never been a legitimate national champion in Division one football ever.

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Speaker 2: I mean you can make an argument, well that was

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Speaker 2: the best team. Come on, I saw them. They were

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Speaker 2: absolutely great.

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Speaker 3: They were great.

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Speaker 5: BCS national champions, by.

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Speaker 2: Champ champions, UPI champions back in the day. I mean,

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Speaker 2: there's there's a lot of different national champions Take a

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Speaker 2: look at the roster. They have multiple teams every year.

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Speaker 2: The MacArthur Bowl, they give that away. The National Football

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Speaker 2: Foundations still give that thing away. So the teams lay

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Speaker 2: The bottom line is none of them are actually legit.

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Speaker 2: So now you decide we're going to have a playoff

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Speaker 2: and we're going to expand the field.

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Speaker 3: Great idea, but you fed up on this one.

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Speaker 2: The format proved to be a failure a year ago,

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Speaker 2: and now they're talking about expanding it to make it

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Speaker 2: even a bigger disaster. I have a solution, but first

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Speaker 2: let's find out what is trending right now, and well,

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Speaker 2: ISAA glowing crime.

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Speaker 12: It's been a while, hasn't it.

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Speaker 3: Ilo. When I think of centuries that we have been together,

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Speaker 3: it's because you're both vampires.

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Speaker 4: You live forever? Is that why?

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Speaker 12: I literally remember listening to you in my crib. Yes,

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Speaker 12: I was trapped that and I'm trapped now.

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Speaker 2: We could do I mean, you know, it's funny. I

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Speaker 2: watch YouTube channels. I see people I know doing these

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Speaker 2: YouTube shows.

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Speaker 3: Some of them you know about, some of them you

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Speaker 2: But I watch these YouTube shows and these guys are

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Speaker 3: And I'm just like, you want a YouTube show. Oh boy?

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Speaker 2: I could just do a show with Isaac Longcron every

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Speaker 2: week and we will give you stories that will trump

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Speaker 2: and obliterate anything else that you're yapping about on your

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Speaker 2: YouTube channel, like the.

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Speaker 12: Time you almost got us assassinated by a drug kingpin

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Speaker 12: and Miami Beach would be the least interesting of all

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Speaker 12: those stories.

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Speaker 2: It is a true story. But again, we'll save it. Okay,

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Speaker 2: we'll save it. You know, if you want to know,

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Speaker 2: you want to know that story, iilo and I will

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Speaker 2: put it together at some point.

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Speaker 3: But in the meantime, a very very busy day on

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Speaker 3: what has been the worst day of Shador Sanders' life.

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Speaker 12: Okay, yeah, let's start there. The Cleveland Browns defeating the

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Speaker 12: He brought the Browns forty six yards over the final

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Speaker 12: at New Orleans. The Baltimore Ravens wonted Washington thirty to three.

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Speaker 12: Baltimore placekicker Tyler Loop three field goals, including a fifty

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Speaker 12: two yarder at a sixty one yarder and the Indianapolis

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Speaker 12: Colts won at Cincinnati forty one to fourteen. College football

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Speaker 12: number twenty two Iowa State defeated seventeenth rank Kansas State

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Speaker 12: twenty four to twenty one in Dublin, Ireland. Big Baseball

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Speaker 12: news the Philadelphia Phillies that has to pitcher Zach Wheeler

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Speaker 12: will be out for the rest of the season. Wheeler

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Speaker 12: had successful surgery to remove a blood clot from his

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Speaker 12: right arm five days ago, and now in the coming

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Speaker 12: weeks he will also undergo thoracic outlet decompression surgery. One

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Speaker 12: game that has gone final in Major League Baseball, how

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Speaker 12: about this? The Boston Red Sox beat the Yankees at

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Speaker 12: Yankee Stadium twelve to one. They scored seven runs at

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Speaker 12: the top of the ninth inning. Boston's Garrett Crochet eleven

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Speaker 12: strikeouts in seven innings for the win to improve his

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Speaker 12: record to thirteen and five. Always special if they're named.

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Speaker 2: Garrett A Steve, Yes, exactly, very special.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 4: Isa.

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Speaker 3: I'm just thinking about, you know, putting your life in danger,

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Speaker 3: how close you were.

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Speaker 12: It frequently happens when I'm in your company, including probably today.

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Speaker 3: All right, Thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: We will check in with you a little bit later

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Speaker 2: on Once again, we're coming alive from the Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio studios. With the iHeartRadio app, you can stream us

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Speaker 3: app to stream us live all day every day, and

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Speaker 3: be sure to select Fox Sports Radios one of your

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Speaker 3: presets in the iHeart app so'll always pop up at

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Speaker 3: the top of your screen. Well, I'm very happy to

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Speaker 3: see someone enter the studio right now on oh my

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Speaker 3: go well again, Nikki. Look for people that choose to

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Speaker 3: live in this city, and I have. I'm from here.

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Speaker 3: This is my home, my whole life. You know, I

485
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Speaker 3: ventured to San Diego for several years, but you know

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Speaker 3: I was born in La actually born in Hollywood, California,

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Speaker 3: and I've been here a long time. And the nightmare

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Speaker 3: just never ends. And then you get thrown for loop

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Speaker 3: a curve like you did on the four or five today,

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Speaker 3: and it just screws.

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Speaker 13: Up your dead are we are the epitome of the

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Speaker 13: snl skit the Californians when all you do is talk

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Speaker 13: about traffic as part of your introduction. And I hate

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Speaker 13: to be that cliche right now, but it's a normal

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Speaker 13: twenty twenty five minute commute for me ended up being

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Speaker 13: an hour and a half today, and I learned a

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Speaker 13: very valuable lesson. Normally, I defer to the GPS your maps.

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Speaker 13: I don't use ways or anything fancy. I say, stick

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Speaker 13: to what you give me. And you know, I got

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Speaker 13: a little cheeky thinking on top of the four h

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Speaker 13: five being completely shut down, which I've never seen before.

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Speaker 13: It was kind of eerie. I thought, let me be

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Speaker 13: smarter than the maps and takes a pulvidap which goes

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Speaker 13: right by our lovely campus as UCLA Brewers. Yes, and

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Speaker 13: boy was I wrong. So I've been humbled, humbled by

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Speaker 13: the traffic gods today.

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Speaker 2: Well, the fact that both of us know the four

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Speaker 2: or five having gone to UCLA, yes, all too well.

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Speaker 2: It is, as we have said, we are studios here

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Studios. You can actually see what is

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Speaker 2: the busiest intersection of freeway in the entire planet.

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Speaker 3: It's not even close.

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Speaker 2: The four five and one oh one intersect literally right

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Speaker 2: outside our Fox Sports radio studios. It is the busiest

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Speaker 2: freeway intersection on the planet, and not just La, the

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Speaker 2: entire planet.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 3: And then you.

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Speaker 2: Decide to shut down the four five. Let's let's shut

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Speaker 2: it down Saturday. Nobody's on the road right on a Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Let's just shut it.

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Speaker 13: Nobody wants to get to the beach, right, No, yes, no,

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Speaker 13: there's it's it's head and south.

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Speaker 3: To so only one hundred degrees outside. So yeah, let's

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Speaker 3: let's shut down the four or five on a Saturday.

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Speaker 3: All right, Well that is side.

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Speaker 13: Nick, Thank you and thank you, and the apology goes

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Speaker 13: without saying, but we're here, we are here so thrilled

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Speaker 13: to speak with you.

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Speaker 2: I want to catch you up on what has certainly

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Speaker 2: been the story of the day, and that was the

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Speaker 2: disastrous day for Shudor Sanders. It was a catastrophe. I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna I'm gonna give you the numbers again.

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Speaker 13: Three sacks and he didn't even play the first half.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, no, it was five.

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Speaker 13: So oh it was five.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. Let me update you on exactly the numbers.

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Speaker 2: Here are the numbers. Today, the Cleveland Browns played against

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Speaker 2: the Rams. I did a preview this game on l A.

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Speaker 3: TV last night, and we were talking about the fact

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Speaker 3: that the Rams who didn't play No.

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Speaker 2: One and they didn't their starting quarterback. He played the

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Speaker 2: entire game Dresser win. Anybody Dresser win. That was the

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Speaker 2: quarterback game, though Dresser is your first name. Dresser win, w.

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Speaker 3: I n n uh played the tire game for the

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Speaker 3: Rams today. By the way, he had a passer ratio

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Speaker 3: of one oh five point three, not two bad. Wow.

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Speaker 2: So Joe Flacco started for the Browns. He was nine

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Speaker 2: to ten seventy one yards a touchdown, no picks. That's

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Speaker 2: a passer radio one twenty nine point six.

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Speaker 13: I just I just love Joe. Yeah, well, Joe, I'm

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Speaker 13: forty years old.

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Speaker 3: He still knows how to play this game. Okay, So let's.

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Speaker 13: Suck shootor and then I want to circle back to Joe.

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Speaker 3: Then we brought in Dylan Gabriel.

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Speaker 2: So Dylan Gabriel came in and he played the rest

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Speaker 2: of the first half twelve to nineteen hundred and twenty

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Speaker 2: nine yards a touchdown, no picks, passer ratio of one

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Speaker 2: hundred point five.

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Speaker 3: So Dylan Gabriel getting a little bit better each time out.

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Speaker 13: And he's a competitor, not an entertainer, remember.

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Speaker 2: That, correct, So now they hand the ball to shirt

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Speaker 2: Sanders for the second half. His final stats three for

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Speaker 2: six passing fourteen yards, five sacks for forty one yards

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Speaker 2: in losses, and a QB rating of fifty six point two.

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Speaker 2: And then, to add insult to injury, when the Browns

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Speaker 2: got the ball back after the Rams took it lately,

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Speaker 2: they had time for one last drive. Figuring maybe Shaudor

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Speaker 2: could redeem himself, they bench him and they bring in

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Speaker 2: Tyler Huntly for that final drive and he leads the

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Speaker 2: Browns down to a game winning field goal. So, based

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Speaker 2: on what we saw today, Shador Sanders is going to

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Speaker 2: get released.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean, and especially when you think about that

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Speaker 13: quarterback room right there, it's kind of been the whole

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Speaker 13: storyline of the preseason, the offseason Cleveland. That's a crowded

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Speaker 13: QB room, and then you got a name like Shadur

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Speaker 13: in there, which is an attention magnet. It's it's it's

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Speaker 13: hard because there's no I mean, you look at the

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Speaker 13: two guys who literally took the field before them before him,

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Speaker 13: incremental improvement for Dylan Gabriel, and then Shadoor just doesn't

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Speaker 13: meet the moment, and he's been given a lot of

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Speaker 13: a lot of rope, so to speak.

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Speaker 3: Why why why did the Browns draft Shadoor Sanders? If again,

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Speaker 3: if you're if you're going to take a quarterback that's

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Speaker 3: going to get that kind of attention, right, it's got

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Speaker 3: to be a starting quarterback. So when it was announced

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Speaker 3: this week that Joe Flacco is going to be the

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Speaker 3: game one starter, of course he's going to be the

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Speaker 3: game one starter.

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Speaker 2: Kevin Stefanski's trying to save his job. I need a

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Speaker 2: quarterback I know that knows my offense, A guy that

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Speaker 2: was there two years ago, comeback player of the Year,

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Speaker 2: getting off the couch. He knows me, I know him,

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Speaker 2: he knows his team. He's my starting quarterback. But you

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Speaker 2: do not need the noise that's come along with Shadoor

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Speaker 2: Sanders when all he's doing is competing for a backup

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Speaker 2: job with Dylan Gabriel. And then when it was announced

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Speaker 2: this week that Joe Flacco would be the Week one start,

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Speaker 2: Uh duh?

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Speaker 13: Right, oh oh?

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Speaker 3: Can you not give it to Shador?

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Speaker 2: Did you see what he did against Carolina in that

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Speaker 2: first preseason game.

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Speaker 13: It's just distraction after distraction.

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Speaker 3: You don't need that from a backup.

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Speaker 13: Court and in a preseason game when you have numbers

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Speaker 13: like that too.

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Speaker 3: Can you imagine the fallout this week if they release him?

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Speaker 13: Did you say forty one yards for loss?

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Speaker 2: Forty one his net passing yardageiative negative twenty seven.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: I was gonna say, like, it shouldn't even be allowed

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Speaker 13: to you shouldn't even be allowed to say he was

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Speaker 13: three for six for fourteen yards and then follow it

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Speaker 13: up with.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, was it like oh no, no, yeah, Hey Sam,

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Speaker 3: can you play again the call of this sack for Nikki?

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Speaker 4: Here?

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Speaker 3: Listen? Listen too?

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Speaker 2: Is a Sicilian who's doing the Browns preseason games. I

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Speaker 2: know Andrew is like there, they're regular play by play.

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Speaker 5: It sounds like Andrew Siciliana.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure though, Yeah, there could.

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Speaker 2: Be some Wait, Isaac would know Isaac, Isaac who was on.

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Speaker 3: The Andrew it is, because that's what did they do

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Speaker 3: the TV and the radio during the.

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Speaker 2: Preseason, Our dear friend Andrew Siciliana. All right, this is

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Speaker 2: Andrew Siciliano, who's the play by play voice of the

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Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns. Listen, do we have to say about this

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Speaker 2: unbelievable sack that Shudor Sanders took out.

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Speaker 4: Of the shotgun.

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Speaker 6: On second down, Sanders back pedaling, pressured again, spins away

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Speaker 6: now backpedaling just looks like Colorado. Sanders sack back at

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Speaker 6: the twenty three.

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Speaker 7: So he's not getting the open receivers and he's starting

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Speaker 7: to develop drift back into some of his bad habits

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Speaker 7: drifting back. There, you have two negative plays that lose.

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Speaker 7: I can't even how many yards was that one? Our

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Speaker 7: great statistician right there, twenty two yard sack. You can't

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Speaker 7: take a twenty two yard sack in the National Football League.

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Speaker 3: No, you cannot, No, you can't.

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Speaker 2: And this was again a guy in two years at Colorado,

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Speaker 2: where sacks are counted as rushing yards. They don't do

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Speaker 2: that in the NFL. It's a separate category. But in college,

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Speaker 2: if you are a quarterback and you get sacked, it's

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Speaker 2: negative rushing yards. He had negative rushing.

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Speaker 3: Yards both years he was at Colorado because he not

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Speaker 3: just took a lot of sacks, he took big sacks,

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Speaker 3: which was a warning to NFL teams that the one

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Speaker 3: thing you need out of a quarterback is the ability

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Speaker 3: to make quick decisions when to get rid of the ball,

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Speaker 3: where to throw the ball.

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Speaker 2: You've got to make this. It's not enough to throw

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Speaker 2: the ball accurately when you have time, it's being able

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Speaker 2: to think on your feet and make those quick decisions.

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Speaker 2: And what he showed today, well you can take a

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Speaker 2: three yards sack, but not a twenty yards.

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Speaker 13: Right, exactly exactly like that's what I was getting, you know.

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Speaker 13: But in livetime, those broadcasters andrew calling him out saying

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Speaker 13: he's regressed, he's falling back into his collegiate tendencies.

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Speaker 3: Well that's it.

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Speaker 2: That's the end of the preseason. Now you got to

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Speaker 2: make a decision. If you're the Cleveland Browns, are you

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Speaker 2: going to keep him? You're not going to keep o

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Speaker 2: Shador Sanders and Dylan Gabriel.

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Speaker 13: Do you think do you think anyone else would pick

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Speaker 13: him up?

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Speaker 3: Why?

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Speaker 13: I know?

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Speaker 4: For what?

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Speaker 2: To get more noise, because again, the problem for the

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Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 3: Right now is they got a pr nightmare.

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Speaker 2: They are for a quarterback, Well they are. They've already

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Speaker 2: created a peer with the Deshaun Watson situation. But you've

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Speaker 2: done this for a quarterback that was never going to

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Speaker 2: be your starting quarterback. You gave people that were defending

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Speaker 2: Shador Sanders, especially after he dropped in the draft that

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Speaker 2: this guy deserves to be a starting quarterback in the

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Speaker 2: NFL the Rams. He was going against Rams players that

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Speaker 2: are not even gonna be on the roster.

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Speaker 3: They're all going to be looking for jobs in a

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Speaker 3: couple of weeks. And he took five sacks for forty

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Speaker 3: one yards and losses.

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Speaker 13: But something tells me this isn't the end of the

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Speaker 13: Shadoor Sanders.

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Speaker 3: Why not?

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Speaker 13: I just can't. I can't believe that this is the

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Speaker 13: end of him in our in our football discourse.

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Speaker 2: Well, outside of being Dion Sun, what other story do

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Speaker 2: we have about Shudor Sanders.

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Speaker 13: Well, I feel like we're going to be told a

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Speaker 13: story we're gonna be.

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Speaker 3: We've been told a lot of shit.

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Speaker 13: Yeah yeah, But I just I'm having a very hard

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Speaker 13: time believing that that's the last we'll see of him.

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Speaker 3: Well, again, the Browns have made so many bad decisions.

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Speaker 13: It wouldn't be shocked.

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Speaker 3: I guess that would not be a shocker.

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Speaker 13: You're Week seven starters.

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Speaker 2: We had the college football season underway. Week zero is

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Speaker 2: already well underway. But what about the future now of

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00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 2: college football? We got to get into some of that.

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Speaker 2: Also coming up on the next satur Adam Kaplan is

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Speaker 2: going to be joining us final tour around the NFL

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Speaker 2: training camps.

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Speaker 3: This is Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 10: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: It was a challenge, but she got here.

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Speaker 13: We're back, We're back.

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Speaker 3: She got here, she got.

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Speaker 13: I was kind of bumming because I love I love

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Speaker 13: talking chop with you.

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Speaker 3: I know, Nikki.

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Speaker 2: Well, we have fun. We have a lot to talk about.

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Speaker 2: And it's the best because we now week zero.

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Speaker 3: All right, college football season is underway once again Fox

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Speaker 3: Sports Saturday. We're live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

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Speaker 3: Mentioned coming up in the next hour, Adam Kaplan, our

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Speaker 3: NFL insider, will join us. He had one final tour

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Speaker 3: of all the training camps, so we have so many

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Speaker 3: stories to get to see.

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Speaker 2: This is the problem with the preseason football is that

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Speaker 2: we have all right, this is the final week of

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Speaker 2: preseason football games and then he got the bye week.

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Speaker 2: So next week it's all college football week one, full

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Speaker 2: college football schedule. Hey, before we get to where they're

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Speaker 2: going next with this college football playoff, I mentioned really

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Speaker 2: it's been the story today. Shudoor Sanders just had a

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Speaker 2: catastrophic day today in his final preseason game three to six,

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Speaker 2: passing fourteen yards, sacked five times for forty one yards

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Speaker 2: and losses. This despite the fact that every other quarterback

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Speaker 2: for the Browns play well. Flacco played well, Dylan Gabriel

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Speaker 2: played well, Tyler Huntley played well on the final drive.

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Speaker 2: But after the game, apparently we do have some audio

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Speaker 2: here of Shador Sanders talked about being yanked from that

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Speaker 2: final drive of the game where you know, he could

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Speaker 2: have redeemed himself. Instead, they threw in Tyler Huntley, who

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Speaker 2: did lead the Browns to a game winning field goal.

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Speaker 2: But here was Shadoor Sanders to that decision.

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Speaker 14: Guy, Yeah, I didn't know I was out. Yeah, I

743
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Speaker 14: didn't know I was. You know, I was on the bike.

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Speaker 4: I was powering up.

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Speaker 14: You know, I was powering up for that two minute

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Speaker 14: drive because you know, that's just the situation every point

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Speaker 14: that dreams for as many situations I've been more thought

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Speaker 14: it I was in. So then he told me I

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Speaker 14: wasn't in another go go.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So he was ready to go, I thought at

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Speaker 2: the end of the game, after the Rams scored to

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Speaker 2: take the lead, Okay, should will get an opportunity now

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Speaker 2: to save his day. Instead, he gets benched for Tyler Huntley,

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Speaker 2: who they just picked up after Kenny Pika got hurt.

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Speaker 2: So what is the message that Kevin Stefanskia gave Shador

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Speaker 2: Sanders in an absolutely meaningless preseason game to bench him

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Speaker 2: for that final drive.

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Speaker 13: I think I think you just showed him you don't

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Speaker 13: have what it takes right now.

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Speaker 3: Right, Well, they have to make a personnel decision, yeah, Nikki.

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Speaker 13: And apparently Shador in his postgame presser held himself well

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Speaker 13: right and took accountability. And so I don't know if

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Speaker 13: his futures in Cleveland, I'd kind of be shocked if

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Speaker 13: he's on that fifty three man roster after today.

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Speaker 2: I guess you could throw him on the practice squad,

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Speaker 2: which will him open to any team that wants to

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Speaker 2: add him to their fifty three man roster. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: that was that was in his face. He handled it well,

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Speaker 2: all right. We got much more as we have the

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Speaker 2: final week of the NFL preseason, going to break it

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Speaker 2: down right here on Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio rolling along here

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Speaker 1: on another fabulous Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 3: This is Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 2: We're broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Adam Kaplan,

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Speaker 2: our Fox Sports Radio NFL Insider is going to be

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Speaker 2: joining us, coming up here in about twenty minutes, and

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Speaker 2: we'll have lots to catch up with ad him as

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Speaker 2: he is touring all the NFL training camps. You know, Nick,

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Speaker 2: we sit here and we're like, there's so many stories

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Speaker 2: going into this upcoming NFL season. One of the big

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Speaker 2: stories obviously is Aaron Rodgers is quarterback of the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw this, but his helmet

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Speaker 2: doesn't fit properly. Did you see this helmet situation?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 13: It am I going to act.

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Speaker 3: So they introduce what they are.

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Speaker 2: It's called a new helmet, and basically it makes his

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Speaker 2: head look like a p head in an oversized helmet

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Speaker 2: and he's not half and he's like one. It makes

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Speaker 2: me look ridiculous. And he's all about appearance, as you know.

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Speaker 2: And he's not comfortable with his helmet.

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Speaker 3: As you know. He has always had the single chin strap.

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Speaker 5: He is a shut helmet for most of his career,

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Speaker 5: and they said it wasn't that he couldn't use it anymore.

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Speaker 2: Right, so he can't use the helmet that he wants.

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Speaker 13: He described it looking like a damn spaceship.

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Speaker 3: Correct, he doesn't. So his head looks so tiny in

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Speaker 3: this giant helmet. And the worst thing for him is

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Speaker 3: not the practicality or safety measure they an't care about,

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Speaker 3: it's how do I look in this helmet? So he

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Speaker 3: doesn't look good.

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Speaker 13: It looks like okay, so the shut AIRXP pro Q

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Speaker 13: eleven Limited, Yes, that was the band model. He's been

805
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Speaker 13: experimenting with different models, including the shut ERXP pro VTD two,

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Speaker 13: and he is frustrated by the appearance and the fit.

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Speaker 13: You know, he does look like for anyone who isn't

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Speaker 13: able to pull up one of one of the images

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Speaker 13: of Aaron Rodgers, I mean, look at this, it's comedy.

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Speaker 13: He looks like one of the guys in Star Wars,

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Speaker 13: the good guys right when they're in the I'm gonna get,

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Speaker 13: you know, massacred for not knowing, Well, what do you

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Speaker 13: call the good guys in Star Wars? Are you a

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Speaker 13: Star Wars person?

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Speaker 3: I'm not talking about the rebels with the big fireman.

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Speaker 2: This is Aaron Rodgers in a normal helmet like he

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Speaker 2: had here Nikki, as you can see that that was

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers in his normal helmet, and now he's got this.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's just it's absolutely ridiculous.

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Speaker 13: It's just knowing the comedy around him though, and how

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Speaker 13: seriously he takes everything he says. Honestly, I'm here for

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Speaker 13: the imagery. I think it's great, give us something to

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Speaker 13: laugh at.

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Speaker 3: Well. My favorite was the fact that his self serving.

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Speaker 2: Document Enigma was comical in the sense that he is

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Speaker 2: the most transparent person I think, possibly imagine he's anything but.

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Speaker 13: In enigma exactly exactly.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he is the polar opposite of an enigma.

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Speaker 2: He may think he's presenting an enigma, but he's the

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Speaker 2: easiest reading in a room.

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Speaker 13: You can read him like a book like And there

832
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Speaker 13: is nothing in my in my opinion as a woman,

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Speaker 13: more comical than a man who takes himself so seriously

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Speaker 13: and presenting that era of mystery that it becomes it's

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Speaker 13: like a bit right, you know, he's upholding this identity

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Speaker 13: that we all I would say, we all can you

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Speaker 13: know see right through?

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Speaker 10: Right?

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Speaker 3: I mean, You're not an enigma. You are creating a facade.

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Speaker 3: You're not true to yourself. Whatever you are, we know.

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Speaker 4: Who you are.

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Speaker 2: You are an egomaniac, you are completely self absorbed individual.

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Speaker 2: He basically cut.

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Speaker 3: Off his entire family. Who does that?

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Speaker 2: So, I mean this is a completely self consumed individual,

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Speaker 2: which on a football team is complicated because as the quarterback.

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Speaker 3: You need to be a leader on the team.

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Speaker 2: But if everything is about you, it makes it very

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Speaker 2: difficult to lead men into battle.

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Speaker 3: He said, well, look at all the success he had

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Speaker 3: in Green Bay.

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Speaker 2: I know this with all the numbers he produced in

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Speaker 2: Green Bay because obviously he has immense talent and throwing

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Speaker 2: the football.

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Speaker 3: The fact that he only played in.

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Speaker 2: A single Super Bowl one his entire career, he lost

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Speaker 2: four conference championship games, one step away from getting there.

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Speaker 3: Again.

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Speaker 2: When you talk about the all time greats, and there

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Speaker 2: are still people who say he's the most talented quarterback

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Speaker 2: that ever played the game?

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Speaker 3: Does make him the best?

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Speaker 13: Right? Well? And I you know, I want to touch

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Speaker 13: on something you were saying about leadership there. I was

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Speaker 13: listening to an interview with Clark Hunt, the owner of

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Speaker 13: the Kansas City Chiefs, and he said, you know, he

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Speaker 13: finds that teams are our best when your best players

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Speaker 13: are your leaders.

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Speaker 4: Correct.

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Speaker 13: Also, right, So it makes sense, it makes sense. I

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Speaker 13: just think I haven't been in a locker room where

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Speaker 13: Aaron Rodgers, you know, is in, but I don't. It's

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Speaker 13: it's hard imagining the way he presents the media being

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Speaker 13: the type of leader when you talk about his legacy

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Speaker 13: and the talent and the leadership he brings. I don't

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Speaker 13: know if that's on the on the top, you know

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Speaker 13: description of Aaron Rodgers the quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Right, all you have to do is go back a

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Speaker 2: year ago. Okay, so obviously two years ago his season

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00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 2: ended four plays in, so that's a non season. So

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Speaker 2: last year with the Jets, he started all seventeen games,

882
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 2: twenty eight touchdowns, eleven interceptions, not too bad, completed sixty

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Speaker 2: three percent of his passes. Not at the level he's

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Speaker 2: been at, but still not a disaster. His passer rating

885
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Speaker 2: was ninety point five. It's not in the hundreds, but

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Speaker 2: again not disastrous. And yet his Jets team was five

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Speaker 2: and twelve. Okay, so you're putting up not terrible numbers,

888
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Speaker 2: decent numbers, but whatever you're doing is not translating to the.

889
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 3: Rest of the team. As a leader, your position is

890
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 3: to raise the level of everybody's game because you're the

891
00:47:54,680 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 3: leader of the team. So the fact is he did

892
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 3: not raise.

893
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 2: The level of anyone's play with the Jets last year,

894
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 2: which is why, despite the fact that he had decent numbers,

895
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 2: it did not translate into wins for the Jets.

896
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 3: So I've been one of those people that looked at

897
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 3: the Steelers because you know, Mike Tomlins never had a

898
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,720
Speaker 3: losing season, and they're over Runders like eight and a half.

899
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:23,399
Speaker 2: So they're like, you know, a lot of people don't

900
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 2: believe that Aaron Rodgers can get him across the finish line.

901
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 2: I'm like, wait a second, Aaron Rodgers is better than

902
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 2: justin fields or whatever they got last year. You know,

903
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 2: certainly Ben Roethlisberger at the end of his career, Kenny Peckett.

904
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,839
Speaker 2: Come on, I mean, Aaron Rodgers is still a better

905
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 2: quarterback than those guys. And now you take a step

906
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 2: back and like, all he's worried about.

907
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 3: Right now is how his helmet fits and how his

908
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 3: helmet looks on him. If you're his teammateer, Like, dude,

909
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 3: we got a season coming up.

910
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 13: You know what we call that Steve an enigma. Have

911
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 13: you watched any of the Cowboys documentary a little bit? Yes,

912
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 13: I haven't started it yet, but I've heard it's really good.

913
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 2: I told you, Nikki, I have no reason to believe

914
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 2: because people are saying, well, do you think that Michael

915
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 2: Parsons And this is my actually, my first question is

916
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 2: going to be coming up for Adam is going to

917
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,439
Speaker 2: be the Micah Parson situation. Do you believe he'll be there,

918
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 2: you know, for that opening game against Eagles? And I do,

919
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 2: and I for some for the life of me, I

920
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 2: don't know why I think the Cowboys are going to

921
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 2: surprise people this year because it's been disaster my eyes.

922
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:34,879
Speaker 13: Well, I hear this every year.

923
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 3: No, last year I picked him to win the Super Bowl. Oh, Steve,

924
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 3: they were coming off what thirteen win seasons. They I

925
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 3: felt like, you know what, they're do their due, They're due,

926
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 3: and then they go seven and.

927
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 13: Tis no buy it just the way I mean technically Texas.

928
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 2: Is by the way in this show, because I had

929
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 2: one of our reporters from KTLA, she went down to

930
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:03,320
Speaker 2: interview Jerry Jones by the way. Jerry immediately talked about

931
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:07,760
Speaker 2: how attractive she was. He goes, wow, you're really pretty.

932
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 3: She said that. You know, like it's like, well, he's

933
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 3: this eighty year old man like this, who dies? I mean,

934
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 3: but this is Jerry Jones right? That was his first.

935
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you're really You're really pretty. She was telling

936
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,879
Speaker 2: me that. She asked me what should I ask? I said, well,

937
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 2: why didn't you ask him this question? How can they

938
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 2: still have the label of America's team when not only

939
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,399
Speaker 2: have they not won a Super Bowl in thirty years,

940
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 2: they haven't even been to the conference championship game in

941
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 2: thirty years. How do you maintain that label as America's

942
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:42,240
Speaker 2: team when you have the one jack in three decades?

943
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 13: Okay, I got I got a good one. I saw

944
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 13: this video on on social media where a girlfriend was

945
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 13: purposely trolling her boyfriend. Her boyfriend's in Dallas Cowboys hat sweatshirt.

946
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 13: They're on the couch and she's videoing him without him knowing,

947
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 13: and she goes, hey, you know, gosh, why are VHS

948
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 13: players so exc defensive? And he goes, why do you

949
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 13: need a VHS player? And she goes, oh, just I

950
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,399
Speaker 13: can only watch you know the one thing I want

951
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,320
Speaker 13: to watch, It can only be played on a VHS.

952
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 13: He goes, we can watch anything, Like, what do you

953
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 13: need a VHS player for? And she keeps dragging him along,

954
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 13: dragging him along, and then she goes, Oh, I just

955
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 13: wanted to watch It's for you. I wanted to watch

956
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 13: the last time the Cowboys.

957
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 3: I mean, how are they still relevant?

958
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 13: Right?

959
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:31,800
Speaker 2: Well, they're relevant because they have an outrageous owner, Jerry Jones,

960
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 2: who again sealed the fate of his franchise by getting

961
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 2: Jimmy Johnson to leave. If Jimmy Johnson had stayed, Troy

962
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 2: Aikman will talk about this at nauseum. We would not

963
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 2: only have won three straight Super bowl we could have

964
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 2: won five straight Super Bowls.

965
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 3: Remember this.

966
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:50,879
Speaker 2: When they won that first Super Bowl, they were the

967
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 2: youngest team in the NFL. You'd have free agency like

968
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 2: you have nowadays. That team was fully loaded, and.

969
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 3: He bringing Barry Switzer. Berry's Witzer, really Barry Switzer.

970
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got one super Bowl out of it in

971
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:08,399
Speaker 2: spite of Barry Switzer, and ever since then nothing but yeah,

972
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 2: that was that was her introduction to Jerry Jones.

973
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 3: He was glathering all over her house. Bready she was.

974
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:20,800
Speaker 13: Did you see Micah Parsons pregame for this. He's walking

975
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,760
Speaker 13: through the tunnel eating nachos. Yeah, and then just laying

976
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 13: on the warm up table on the sideline.

977
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 3: Well he's there, he doesn't want to get fine. He's there.

978
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,879
Speaker 13: Yeah, he's hurt, and apparently some fan yells at him

979
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 13: you come to Atlanta because the Cowboys are playing with

980
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 13: the Falcons. And he holds up his like a phone

981
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 13: to his ear, being like call me.

982
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 12: You know.

983
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 2: Well, all of this is reason to believe that the

984
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 2: Cowboys are in for a disastrous season, which is why

985
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:47,879
Speaker 2: I always go the opposite way.

986
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 3: It's going to be a surprisingly good season. All right, Well,

987
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 3: hang on to that thought, because coming up on the

988
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 3: other side, the man that's been traveling through all these

989
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 3: NFL training camps getting ready for the season, We're going

990
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 3: to break down a lot with our insider Adam Kaplan.

991
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 3: This is Fox Sports Saturday, Steve.

992
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:11,359
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993
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:14,680
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997
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999
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:35,399
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1000
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 3: Well, join us right now is a man that has

1001
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 3: been through all.

1002
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 2: The different training camps around the NFL. As we conclude

1003
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 2: the preseason games this weekend, get ready for the bye week,

1004
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 2: and then the regular season will begin. The one and

1005
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 2: only the Great Adam Kaplan is joining us right now.

1006
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 3: Adam.

1007
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 2: I was actually telling Nicky I was going to ask

1008
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 2: you about the Micah Parsons situation, but I'm going to

1009
00:53:56,239 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 2: detour first second, because today's Shador Sanders foremans was such

1010
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 2: a catastrophe. Five sacks, forty one yards and losses. Obviously,

1011
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 2: Dylan Gabriel played well, Joe Flacco played well, and then

1012
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 2: they bench Shdor Sanders in a meaningless preseason game to

1013
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 2: bring in Tyler Huntley, who would lead them on a

1014
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 2: final drive for a game winning field goal. I mean,

1015
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 2: based on what I saw today and based on him

1016
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 2: getting benched for a final drive that could have redeemed him.

1017
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 2: And he said afterwards he was ready to go. Tells

1018
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 2: me that he has played his last snap as a

1019
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 2: Cleveland Brown, I mean, what he So are they gonna

1020
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 2: are they gonna keep Dylan Gabriel and Shoudoor Sanders yeah.

1021
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,320
Speaker 4: I felt all along. They keep four quarterbacks.

1022
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 15: Obviously Watson won't play this season, Tyler Huntley won't be

1023
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,359
Speaker 15: with them. That's kind of been there playing the whole time.

1024
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 15: Now the Browns are here a couple.

1025
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 4: Of weeks ago, so I you know.

1026
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 15: I learned kind a lot from being around them for

1027
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:55,399
Speaker 15: two days. Dylan Gabriel s, boy, he's he got off

1028
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 15: the very rough starting camp. Look great in the preseason

1029
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,879
Speaker 15: game against Philly here, very good. Today's timing is good

1030
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 15: right now, he's and you've got, of course, you got

1031
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 15: Kenny Pickett who has had this hamstring injury.

1032
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 4: He's just coming back. Yeah, it's they want to develop centers.

1033
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:13,959
Speaker 4: This is my understanding. Steve.

1034
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:15,799
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna why would they bench him on that

1035
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:16,439
Speaker 3: final drive?

1036
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 15: Because you just out on it. You just gave the

1037
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 15: answer to the tests. He struggled vitally. They as bad

1038
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 15: as a look, you could go against fifth teamers. If

1039
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 15: it's so bad that you can't get out of your

1040
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 15: own way, you know.

1041
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 4: You just get the guy on the football game. Now.

1042
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 4: They want to develop this player.

1043
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 15: The player had from a talent standpoint, third or fourth

1044
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 15: round grades. That's what I was told. The problem is immaturity,

1045
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,399
Speaker 15: you know, with the speeding ticket. He needs to grow

1046
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:42,800
Speaker 15: up and he needs to be developed.

1047
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 11: Now.

1048
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 15: He also had the quadrceups injury which he missed over

1049
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 15: week of practice. That definitely hurt him. But they really

1050
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 15: do want to develop him. That that was what I

1051
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 15: was told. I feel pretty good about the information I

1052
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 15: got at sure, could they change your mind, Steve, if

1053
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 15: anything to changed her mind, but that was where they

1054
00:55:58,040 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 15: were at.

1055
00:55:58,160 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 4: At the beginning of the week.

1056
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 13: Adam, I I will pick up where Steve did not.

1057
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 13: But the Micah Parsons Michaeh Parsons moment, I got a

1058
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 13: lot of stuff here, but go have we no layd

1059
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 13: out there? I mean, I'm curious what Jerry's angle is.

1060
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 13: I'm curious where this is going. Are we going to

1061
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 13: see Micah play for the Dallas Cowboys this season? What's

1062
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 13: gonna happen?

1063
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 15: Well, Nikki, here's the latest. Now, this just this is

1064
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 15: and I don't even know if it's well. I mean,

1065
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 15: he's gonna have m Riah on his back, spells to

1066
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 15: have a back problem now. Uh So, basically my job

1067
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 15: is called down the middle. I don't take sides, you know,

1068
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 15: I don't care who wins or loses. It's not my

1069
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:43,879
Speaker 15: job as a reporter, but this is this for Jerry

1070
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 15: what what Jerry Jones has made it.

1071
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 4: He's handled the situation so poorly like this.

1072
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 15: This is, as one person said to me, league, this

1073
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 15: is next level for Jerry, the way that he's handled it.

1074
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 15: He's insulted players from last year who got hurt, like

1075
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 15: Dak Prescott. He's insulted Mikah Parsons, who he thought a

1076
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 15: lot of people around the Cowboys. I've always told me

1077
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 15: that he's had a very good relationship with Micah. I've

1078
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 15: had a pretty pretty good player owner and general manager

1079
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:11,720
Speaker 15: Slash Yew and a manager because not only is Jerry

1080
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 15: owned the team, but he's also the general manager Nikky So.

1081
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 15: But basically because what happened, what's happened here is Micah's

1082
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:20,919
Speaker 15: really upset at Jerry because he's insulted him. Now, as

1083
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 15: we know with Miles Garrett, if you just pay the guy,

1084
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 15: it's all, don't cares. So now that was never that personal.

1085
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 15: It's just that he wanted to He kind of Miles Garrett,

1086
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 15: basically all of the quarterbacks just for the Browns. Is

1087
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 15: I want to say Quagmire they they they had a

1088
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 15: pretty aggresive free agency and so forth.

1089
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 4: So I think Miles probably pretty happy about it.

1090
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 15: But getting back to Michael Parsons here, this is in

1091
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 15: twenty seven years to cover this business. I've not seen

1092
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 15: I've seen negotiations.

1093
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 4: Steve.

1094
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 15: Like when Charles Woodson I was at the combine, it

1095
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 15: was like eleven o'clock at night. I think they put

1096
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 15: the tag on him because the negotiats were not going anywhay.

1097
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 4: They put an angry.

1098
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 15: St statement out late at night and I'm like, what

1099
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 15: is this? Aid my email? I'm like, why did they

1100
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 15: putting a statement out? We're putting the franchise tag on

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00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 15: That was all. It was all in the statement. But

1102
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 15: this thing that Jerry Jones has done is next level,

1103
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 15: totally petty, unnecessary. Now, the agent, David Mulligatt is probably

1104
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 15: a top three contract agent, is denied and basically through

1105
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 15: I forget what report that was. I want to give

1106
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 15: the personal credit, but I remember seeing who it was,

1107
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 15: but basically he put quotes out that what Jerry said

1108
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:28,919
Speaker 15: was total nonsense about oh, he told them to get

1109
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 15: lost and you know he didn't want to do the deal.

1110
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 15: So Steve, it's totally unnecessary. It doesn't have to be

1111
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 15: like this. Why would you want to tagonize your best players?

1112
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 15: To me makes no sense. I want to ask you

1113
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 15: this question, Steve, and you dealt without Davis as you know,

1114
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 15: being in PR and covering the business. As long as

1115
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 15: you have all sports, I'm sure you have stories. The

1116
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 15: were you around from Marcus, Allen and al daois problems?

1117
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1118
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 4: Can us that? Can you give us that one?

1119
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 3: I'm going to give you a good story.

1120
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 4: Please do, because it's an unbelievable for those don't know.

1121
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 2: Eighty five a year that Marcus would end up being

1122
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 2: the league's MVP, led the league in rushing that year.

1123
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:08,479
Speaker 2: We opened the season at home against a bad Jets team,

1124
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 2: blitz them thirty one to nothing. And then we have

1125
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 2: a Thursday road game the next week at Kansas City,

1126
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 2: which is not easy, right, You got a Sunday game

1127
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 2: at home, and now you got a Thursday road.

1128
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 4: Game and it's their biggest rival Jet.

1129
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 2: So we go to Kansas City and we crap in

1130
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 2: our pants in the second half. So the way it worked,

1131
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 2: anyone that's been to Arrowheads, it's a drive from Arrowhead

1132
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 2: to the airports.

1133
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 3: It's a long drive. Right. So one of my many

1134
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 3: jobs when I was working with the Raiders was when

1135
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 3: we were on the road. We had four buses that

1136
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 3: would take the team everybody back to the airport, and

1137
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 3: I had to be the guy on the last bus,

1138
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 3: so I had to make sure we don't leave anybody behind. Right.

1139
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 2: So we got a few players, including Marcus, on this

1140
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 2: bus and I'm ready to say let's go when I

1141
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 2: hear this, wait.

1142
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 3: Al David.

1143
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 2: Now normally mister Davis would be on the first bus,

1144
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 2: but I guess he was talking to people, and of

1145
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 2: course the players look out, especially after a bad loss,

1146
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 2: like this is the last guy we want on our bus.

1147
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 3: So I was sitting. All the seats are taken by players.

1148
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 3: There was like a side bench right as you walked

1149
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 3: on the buds that I was sitting on, and to

1150
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 3: my right sitting was Marcus Allen. The only place where

1151
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 3: mister Davis was sitting was to my left. So picture this.

1152
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 3: He got Al.

1153
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 2: Davis, me and Marcus Allen's sitting three across on its

1154
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:35,920
Speaker 2: bench and it's like a forty minute ride. So the

1155
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 2: bus takes off and there's not a sound on this bus.

1156
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 3: I mean not a sound like. It's completely silent.

1157
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 2: Then because he's on the bus, no one is saying

1158
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 2: a word, so I'm just looking straight ahead. So I

1159
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 2: got Al Davis to my left, Marcus Allen to my rule.

1160
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 4: It was Tom Floris's the head coach.

1161
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 3: Who was Tom Flores is the head coach.

1162
01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 2: So we're driving along, not a sound, and all of

1163
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:03,479
Speaker 2: a sudden, mister Davis looks, I'm like, not even there,

1164
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 2: Like he's I'm like, not even there. He looks and

1165
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:12,479
Speaker 2: he looks at Marcus and he says, oh, no, what

1166
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 2: the f happened out there?

1167
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 4: Oh?

1168
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 2: And he used the word liberally beck in those and

1169
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 2: Marcus without hesitation. Again, it's like I'm in the middle,

1170
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 2: but like I'm not there. Marcus Turney goes. We lost,

1171
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 2: and I could literally feel the heat generating.

1172
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 3: Off of Al Davis, Like literally I could feel the

1173
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 3: heat and he doesn't. There's no response.

1174
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 2: Those are the only words said on the entire forty

1175
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 2: minute ride back to the airport.

1176
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 15: Steve, could you explain to Nikki in the audience, in

1177
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 15: your best words, what the issue between Al Davis and

1178
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 15: I think?

1179
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 4: I know I'm not one hundred percent positive.

1180
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 3: Here is this? If you want to know that.

1181
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 2: So here's the thing. Al Davis was never comfortable with

1182
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 2: players whose star power was deemed above the Vaiders. This

1183
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 2: is why they traded Ken Stabler. So Ken Stabler have

1184
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 2: been the great quarterback Hall of Fame quarterback for the Raiders,

1185
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 2: and they trade him to the Houston Oilers for Dan Pasterini.

1186
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 2: It was a bizarre swap of quarterbacks, but a lot

1187
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 2: of it had to do with Al Davis once described

1188
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 2: Ken Stabler as a passenger on a luxury liner. He

1189
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 2: didn't give him any credit for the fact that he

1190
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:25,920
Speaker 2: was the first quarterback, by the way, to bring his

1191
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 2: team to five straight conference championship games. It was a

1192
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 2: very similar situation with Marcus, who was, by the way,

1193
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 2: the consummate team player. In fact, his teammates voted him

1194
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:39,960
Speaker 2: like their best teammate five years in a row, much

1195
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 2: of the chagrin of Al Davis. So it didn't come

1196
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 2: from Marcus. It was something that was in the head

1197
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 2: of mister Davis.

1198
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:48,920
Speaker 3: It was all from now right, and in a lot

1199
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 3: of ways, it's like what we talk about with Jerry Jones,

1200
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:54,080
Speaker 3: where they're creating their own reality, you know. And he

1201
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 3: used to I mean, I could tell stories all day.

1202
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 15: I won't, but I wanted to ask you because you

1203
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 15: and I have known each other, We've never really talked

1204
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 15: about because you lived it. Yeah, I've really not met

1205
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 15: anyone who was there back then. I can recall, and

1206
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 15: that was an boy that storytelling. Steve was off the charge.

1207
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 13: I was captivated and I forgot how how you even.

1208
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 4: Got on that because of Jerry Jones.

1209
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 13: I know, I know, I was like, wait, I'm sitting

1210
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 13: on Jones.

1211
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 3: Jerry Jones looked at Al Davis as the way he

1212
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 3: wanted to run a team. Al Davis was an owner

1213
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 3: who was also the general manager of the team. That's

1214
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 3: what Jerry Jones wanted. Yep, the owner and also be

1215
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 3: the general manager. He got that from Al Davis.

1216
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 2: So yes, so I yeah, knowing it is a mess,

1217
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 2: all right, let me ask you about a potential mess.

1218
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers. Oh wait a say, we're going to get

1219
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 2: to this in a second. Can do you have a

1220
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 2: little extra time today?

1221
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1222
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I always told you I want to do two

1223
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:50,160
Speaker 4: segments one of these days.

1224
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 2: But guys, okay, but first, let's find out what is

1225
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 2: trending right now.

1226
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 3: Another man that knows too many of my stories, Isaac

1227
01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 3: Longcro You know what.

1228
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 12: The most amazing part part of that Al Davis Marcus

1229
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 12: Allen story was you want Wentz. You once went forty

1230
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 12: minutes without talking. It's true, That's true.

1231
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 3: Nobody was talking that day. That's got to be a

1232
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 3: career high.

1233
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:15,520
Speaker 12: We have one NFL preseason going on right now. The

1234
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 12: Green Bay Packers up seventeen to nothing over the Seattle

1235
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 12: Seahawks fifty eight seconds left to play in the second quarter. Earlier,

1236
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 12: the Cleveland Browns defeated the Los Angeles Rams nineteen to seventeen.

1237
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 12: Cleveland's Andre Schmid the game winning thirty seven yard field

1238
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 12: weal at the gun, a drive lad by Browns quarterback

1239
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 12: Tyler Huntley. Joe Flacco started the game nine to ten

1240
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 12: for seventy one yards at a touchdown pass. Dylan Gabriel

1241
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 12: twelve of nineteen for one twenty nine with a touchdown pass.

1242
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:42,440
Speaker 12: Chadua Sanders three out of six for fourteen yards. He

1243
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 12: was sacked five times, including one for a twenty four

1244
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 12: yard loss. The Houston Texans won at Detroit twenty six

1245
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 12: to seven. Houston rookie sixth round draft pick quarterback Graham

1246
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 12: Mertz no relation to Fred or ethel fourteen of sixteen

1247
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:59,200
Speaker 12: for one forty five with a touchdown pass. Broncos one

1248
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:01,480
Speaker 12: of New Orleans twenty nine to nineteen. Boon Nicks head

1249
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 12: of fourteen for one to ten with a touchdown pass.

1250
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 12: Ravens one in Washington thirty to three. As Baltimore placekicker,

1251
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:10,800
Speaker 12: Tyler Loop kicked three field goals, including a fifty two

1252
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 12: yarder and a sixty one yarder Colts What at Cincinnati

1253
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 12: forty one to fourteen. We also saw the kickoff of

1254
01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 12: the twenty twenty five college football season, number twenty two

1255
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 12: Iowa State over seventeenth th rank Kansas State twenty four

1256
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 12: to twenty one in a game played in Dublin, Ireland.

1257
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 12: I want to me honeymoon there by the way. In

1258
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 12: Major League Baseball, the Boston Red Sox defeated the Yankees

1259
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:33,400
Speaker 12: at Yankee Stadium twelve to one. They scored seven at

1260
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 12: the top of the ninth inning. Boston's Garrett Crochet eleven

1261
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 12: strikeouts and seven innings for the win to improve to

1262
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 12: thirteen and five. Finally, the Philadelphia Phillies announced pitchers Zach

1263
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 12: Wheeler's been diagnosed with thoracic outlet syndrome. And will be

1264
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 12: out for the rest of the season. Wheeler, of course,

1265
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 12: had successful surgery to remove a blood clot from his

1266
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 12: right arm five days ago out of the coming weeks,

1267
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 12: will now undergo thoracic outlet decompression surgery. One other note,

1268
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:03,480
Speaker 12: how about this for coincidences. Unfortunately for the city of Philadelphia,

1269
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 12: former Philadelphia seventy six ers number one overall draft pick

1270
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 12: Markel Foltz was also once diagnosed with thoracic outlet syndrome.

1271
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 3: Back to you, that was not a good pick by

1272
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 3: the Sixers, not a good pick at all, Isaac, Thank

1273
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 3: you very much. As always, yes, trust the process. Once again,

1274
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 3: we're coming to live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

1275
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 3: If you miss any of today's show, you want to

1276
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:32,200
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1277
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:34,480
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1278
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1279
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:40,720
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1280
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:43,960
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1281
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:46,439
Speaker 3: get your podcasts. You'll find today's show posted right after

1282
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:48,480
Speaker 3: we get off the air. All right, so let's talk

1283
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 3: about the Aaron Rodgers situation. All we're talking about right

1284
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,920
Speaker 3: now is his helmet doesn't fit right. He seems very uncomfortable.

1285
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 3: Once again, he's very vain and concerned about how he

1286
01:06:57,960 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 3: looks in this helmet, which, by the way, he doesn't

1287
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:02,240
Speaker 3: look in that helmet. Bud that aside.

1288
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 2: Now that we are at the point where reality is

1289
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 2: setting in that he is going to be the starting

1290
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 2: quarterback for the Pittsburgh Steelers for a coach that has

1291
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 2: never had a losing season, how's this going to play

1292
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:16,479
Speaker 2: out well?

1293
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:18,200
Speaker 15: And also, by the way, the Steelers are not won

1294
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:20,720
Speaker 15: to PLAYFF games since twenty sixteen, so you're talking about

1295
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:21,760
Speaker 15: nearly ten seasons.

1296
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:23,240
Speaker 4: How's it going to play out?

1297
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 15: Now? Talking to Steelers about Rogers and what's happening in

1298
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:28,160
Speaker 15: their offensive training camp, it's just a timing issue.

1299
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 7: You know.

1300
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:30,520
Speaker 15: They don't really have a number two receiver. Rowan Wilson

1301
01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:33,520
Speaker 15: will probably be it, who Rogers has talked up a lot.

1302
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 15: He was a third round last year, barely played. He

1303
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:39,640
Speaker 15: had I'm told two injuries, high ankle sprain, a hamshring problem,

1304
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:42,480
Speaker 15: so he was never ready. Calvin Austin, who's a smaller

1305
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 15: slot receiver, will also see some time, but they don't

1306
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:47,080
Speaker 15: really have It's it's de Kit Metcalf.

1307
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:48,600
Speaker 4: They're very happy with John O.

1308
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 15: Smith in the trade overcoming from Miami's look pretty good,

1309
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 15: and then Patt Frye move, so that's it.

1310
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:54,520
Speaker 4: They don't have a great receiver corps.

1311
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 15: They believe their offensive line will be the best they've

1312
01:07:57,040 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 15: had in years, So it's gonna be a run based

1313
01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:01,240
Speaker 15: offense or not. They don't want to ask Rogers throw

1314
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:02,640
Speaker 15: the ball a lot, and they think they can do

1315
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 15: that with their defense in the run game. They also

1316
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 15: think this is one of the better rosters they've had

1317
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 15: in years. So Steve, to answer your question, is they

1318
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 15: think it's gonna be a low volume pass game. They

1319
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:13,880
Speaker 15: don't think they'll have to ask Rogers to win a

1320
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:17,080
Speaker 15: lot of games for them. Easier said than done, but

1321
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:18,240
Speaker 15: a lot of it's gonna have to start with a

1322
01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 15: running game with Jalen Warren and Caleb Johnson.

1323
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:24,799
Speaker 13: Their third round pick, Adam rock Party is no longer

1324
01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:29,720
Speaker 13: the best bargain in the NFL. Sure, and got a

1325
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:33,800
Speaker 13: big pay raise this offseason, and deservedly so. But how

1326
01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:35,880
Speaker 13: does that how is that going to shift the way

1327
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 13: we talk about him and the expectations now, I mean,

1328
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:44,920
Speaker 13: obviously it's always to win in San Francisco. But is

1329
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:49,519
Speaker 13: that going to change maybe the pressure and the narrative

1330
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:52,960
Speaker 13: around you know, Party was once the best Cinderella story

1331
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 13: and yeah, and now and now he's getting paid, So

1332
01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:58,320
Speaker 13: does that is that going to change the discourse?

1333
01:08:59,360 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 4: Not really.

1334
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 15: I mean from what I've been told from people who

1335
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 15: worked with him, he's a pretty steelyot guy and nothing

1336
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 15: seems to bother him. He people forget when he was

1337
01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:10,639
Speaker 15: a rookie, when he got thrusht into the starting job,

1338
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:13,360
Speaker 15: and so many things had to happen. But once he

1339
01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:16,760
Speaker 15: got in there, he handled a really great road win

1340
01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:19,320
Speaker 15: at Seattle. I know people in scouting around the league

1341
01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:22,160
Speaker 15: who didn't not believe it all Party. They had to

1342
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 15: kind of give it up to the guy. And he's

1343
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:27,080
Speaker 15: been a great story. And and Nikki because they're running

1344
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:29,320
Speaker 15: ANLD school West Coast offense. Not a lot of teeth throws.

1345
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 15: Kashanhan knows who he is. He cannot throw the ball

1346
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:34,960
Speaker 15: past twenty five yards. It's all timing based a lot

1347
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:39,400
Speaker 15: of slam passes. The offense starts with Christian McCaffrey in

1348
01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:42,920
Speaker 15: the run game. This is another team, low volume pass team.

1349
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:45,160
Speaker 15: Now every once in a while. He's shown if they've

1350
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:47,760
Speaker 15: had to have a high volume, he's handled himself fairly well.

1351
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:50,000
Speaker 15: But they don't want him throwing the ball a lot.

1352
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:51,920
Speaker 15: Now I worry about this Niners team.

1353
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:55,520
Speaker 4: Now. They are the slight favorite, slight favorite.

1354
01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:57,920
Speaker 15: Whatever books, sports book you look at their slight favorite

1355
01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:00,479
Speaker 15: minus one oh five and a lot of books. That's

1356
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 15: fairly a winner over the Rams and the rams of

1357
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:06,559
Speaker 15: Matthew Stafford isshe with his back, I my sleeper payer

1358
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 15: won't happen, but I'm gonna pick the Seahawk stack should

1359
01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:11,080
Speaker 15: be the last wild card in the NFC. But the

1360
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:14,599
Speaker 15: Niners with iyex injury that worries made Trent Williams way

1361
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 15: up there. Not a very good offensive line of talent.

1362
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 15: Secondary's got some problems. I don't see the Niners winning

1363
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:22,760
Speaker 15: this one. I really don't.

1364
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 3: Bear's final preseason game.

1365
01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 2: Their quarterbacks had a combined passer rating of one hundred

1366
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 2: and twenty four point seven thirty one to forty three

1367
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:35,599
Speaker 2: three hundred ten yards, four touchdowns, zero picks, Caleb Williams

1368
01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 2: eleven and fifteen one to thirteen one touchdown, no pick.

1369
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:41,559
Speaker 2: Looks pretty good going against the Chiefs, and yet Ben

1370
01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:47,160
Speaker 2: Johnson lost it absolutely, ripping into his team. It's usually

1371
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:50,400
Speaker 2: not that uncommon for a coach to get extra hard

1372
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 2: on the team. Actually, when you have a good game,

1373
01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:54,880
Speaker 2: you know that you sort of jump on him like

1374
01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 2: we could be a lot better. Sure, but I'll ultimately,

1375
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:02,240
Speaker 2: what's the buzz right now on this marriage that's so

1376
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:06,639
Speaker 2: critical to the Bear's future between Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams.

1377
01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 15: Yeah, I would say it's been up and down from

1378
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:10,360
Speaker 15: I understand, and there's been some rough moments, which you

1379
01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:13,240
Speaker 15: would expect with Kayleb Williams, who sometimes plays with a

1380
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:15,920
Speaker 15: lack of discipline in his game, and Ben Johnson is

1381
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:19,639
Speaker 15: the ultimate hard coacher. What he does is he makes

1382
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 15: you accountable, He stays on you. He actually he'll get

1383
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:25,400
Speaker 15: on his coaches. I think this is what Kayleb Williams needed.

1384
01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:30,439
Speaker 15: He's super gifted. Tessan Bagent great story. Development, really is amazing.

1385
01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 15: This kid was an untra after free agent three years ago,

1386
01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:34,280
Speaker 15: m H. And he's not proven to be one of

1387
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 15: the better backups in the league. And they signed case

1388
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:39,920
Speaker 15: Keenum to help mentor Kleb Williams. He's there's insurance policy.

1389
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 15: Here's the great thing Steve. What the Bears have done, guys,

1390
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:47,720
Speaker 15: They've added so much talent. They've three new stars on

1391
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 15: the offensive. On the interior, they knew they had to

1392
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:52,679
Speaker 15: be changed around. They got even more pass targets. Luther Byrne,

1393
01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:54,400
Speaker 15: who the second round of Missouri. It's in first rund

1394
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:57,200
Speaker 15: grades from clubs. Roman Donzay's in his second year. DJ

1395
01:11:57,280 --> 01:12:00,200
Speaker 15: Moore is terrific. They're loaded at running back.

1396
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:00,920
Speaker 8: Now.

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01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:03,640
Speaker 15: My one issue for them is how good are they

1398
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 15: going to be on defense? They don't have much of

1399
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 15: a pass rush that it's a backloaded defense. They started

1400
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:12,840
Speaker 15: back to front, you storte start front to beck. That's

1401
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:14,879
Speaker 15: they have not built this team the right way on defense.

1402
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 15: That's my one issue, Nikki, is that can he the

1403
01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 15: true testament of a quarterback is what happens when you're behind?

1404
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:23,439
Speaker 15: Can you bring the team back? We're not going to

1405
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:26,559
Speaker 15: know that until it happens. And again, this is only

1406
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:28,840
Speaker 15: his secondaries now and it's brand new offense. He's never

1407
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:31,599
Speaker 15: been in the terminology is I understand as West Coast

1408
01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:34,280
Speaker 15: he had to learn a new system, but I know

1409
01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:36,240
Speaker 15: for fact there have been some there are some wild

1410
01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:39,720
Speaker 15: practices from Caleb Williams which you're loving. And now one

1411
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:41,880
Speaker 15: thing that he does and I think Ben Johnson was

1412
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 15: talking about this. Yes, Caleb Willias number Steve look great,

1413
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:47,880
Speaker 15: but there's some times where he doesn't take the target

1414
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 15: where the ball sess to go. It goes to a

1415
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:51,760
Speaker 15: secondary target. And they're going to ask them when you

1416
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 15: watch tape together, why didn't you go here? And he's

1417
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:54,120
Speaker 15: got to have an answer.

1418
01:12:55,040 --> 01:13:01,000
Speaker 3: Adam, we're so ready. I can't wait, but we have weeks. Okay,

1419
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:02,280
Speaker 3: I know I called hump week.

1420
01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:05,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's just it's crazy but unbelievable. The

1421
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:08,720
Speaker 2: Shador Sanders story, though, took an interesting twist.

1422
01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:10,640
Speaker 4: With that perform mad I know I.

1423
01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:15,200
Speaker 2: Keeping for qb our Buddy Ceciliano is the voice of

1424
01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:17,519
Speaker 2: the Browns. He got out on that one sack where

1425
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:21,599
Speaker 2: he said, wow, he's regressing back to his Colorado days

1426
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 2: taking you can't take twenty two yard sacks in the NFL.

1427
01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:29,559
Speaker 4: Not good. But see you guys. Let me just say this.

1428
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 4: They don't have a future quarterback. Dylan Gibrel's not starter.

1429
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 4: I mean, it's a nice story, but.

1430
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:35,840
Speaker 3: Okay, we'll find out, Adam. As always, we'll talk to

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01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:36,400
Speaker 3: you next week.

1432
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:39,799
Speaker 2: Thanks so much, that's Adam Kaplan, our NFL insider.

1433
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:41,760
Speaker 3: What kind of week ahead is it going to be?

1434
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:43,559
Speaker 3: In the Sports Rule We'll break it down for you.

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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Saturday, Steve Harbin, Nikki k Fox

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01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:56,680
Speaker 2: Sports Saturday Live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. I

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01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 2: want to thank our crew today. Ilo came in today

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01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:01,560
Speaker 2: to do all the up dates. I see mister de

1439
01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:03,840
Speaker 2: Sega ready to jump on in.

1440
01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:06,760
Speaker 13: Smell that. That's a smell of football in the air.

1441
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:10,839
Speaker 13: Did you watch any of the Dublin the Dublin kickoff.

1442
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:13,120
Speaker 3: I'll tell you about that. I do want to thank

1443
01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:15,120
Speaker 3: I was Sam because you know, without him today there

1444
01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:16,760
Speaker 3: would not have been a game in Dublin. He's the

1445
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:19,880
Speaker 3: only guy that endorsed that. And another man that braved

1446
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:21,559
Speaker 3: the four or five to get here today is our

1447
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:25,439
Speaker 3: brilliant producer Ian. Thanks guys for all that I did.

1448
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:26,360
Speaker 3: I did watch that.

1449
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 2: You know again, you know the Dublin things sort of

1450
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:31,960
Speaker 2: came into play a few years ago when they had

1451
01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:34,439
Speaker 2: Notre Dame played these games in Dublin, which makes sense.

1452
01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:35,320
Speaker 13: That makes sense.

1453
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:39,120
Speaker 2: The Fighting Iris playing a game in Dublin, that makes sense.

1454
01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 2: You know what last year was? Who was the last

1455
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:43,080
Speaker 2: year was like, Georgia Tech, is.

1456
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:45,800
Speaker 13: It Northwestern there one year? I don't know.

1457
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:46,519
Speaker 4: I don't.

1458
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 3: So here is the four letter.

1459
01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:52,880
Speaker 2: They're interviewing people in the streets of Dublin before the game,

1460
01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:55,639
Speaker 2: ask him that if they can name a single college

1461
01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:58,519
Speaker 2: football team, and they're like no, And they they're like

1462
01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:01,240
Speaker 2: how many? How many points is a touchdown?

1463
01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 3: They don't know that. Why would you schedule Iowa State

1464
01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:09,920
Speaker 3: and Kansas State in Dublin, Ireland? What is the point

1465
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:10,639
Speaker 3: of that?

1466
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:15,960
Speaker 13: You know what? It was? It was a The start

1467
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:19,240
Speaker 13: to the games made us all wonder why what was

1468
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:21,960
Speaker 13: going on? Why were you there? It was pouring rain,

1469
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:26,559
Speaker 13: it was sloppy. It was okay, football is back, question mark,

1470
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:28,240
Speaker 13: college football is back?

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01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:31,479
Speaker 2: Why are you opening your college well again? I got

1472
01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:35,160
Speaker 2: the whole Notre Dame angle on it. Sorty cute, all right,

1473
01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:36,839
Speaker 2: fighting Irish are playing in Dublin.

1474
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:37,439
Speaker 3: I get it.

1475
01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:41,120
Speaker 2: Iowa State and Kansas State and this is a big

1476
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:42,799
Speaker 2: game for both these teams, both.

1477
01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:44,800
Speaker 3: Ranked in the top twenty five. This is game that

1478
01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:48,840
Speaker 3: actually matters. Why is this game being played in you

1479
01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:49,360
Speaker 3: no notice?

1480
01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:53,559
Speaker 13: Was equally as confusing Iowa State's offense putting up numbers.

1481
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:57,000
Speaker 2: How about that well, Iowa especially as notorious for not

1482
01:15:57,080 --> 01:15:57,920
Speaker 2: scoring at all.

1483
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 3: Iowa schools are not big, right, So, I mean, I old,

1484
01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:02,479
Speaker 3: that's an old trope. That was so.

1485
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:04,120
Speaker 4: Three.

1486
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:06,560
Speaker 5: Iowa State's never had a problem scoring. Iowa did for

1487
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:08,040
Speaker 5: a few seasons that they figured that out.

1488
01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:10,280
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I always state is Brod party. I mean,

1489
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:12,280
Speaker 3: that's rock party. I mean, that's yeh, that's that's your

1490
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:15,280
Speaker 3: Iowa State cyclone. I don't know. I mean, do you.

1491
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 2: I say this about the NFL every time they go

1492
01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:21,599
Speaker 2: to London or these Why are we doing this? We

1493
01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:25,280
Speaker 2: have American football. The rest of the world's got football.

1494
01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 2: That's what they consider football. We call it soccer. The

1495
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:31,800
Speaker 2: rest of the will calls it football. We have our

1496
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:34,439
Speaker 2: own football. We do not need to share it with

1497
01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:35,479
Speaker 2: the rest of the world.

1498
01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:40,400
Speaker 3: The NFL. It's not basketball, it's not baseball. Where they

1499
01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:44,599
Speaker 3: really need that international game. We don't need it. I stop.

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01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:46,960
Speaker 13: I have this weird pit in my stomach that we're

1501
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:51,640
Speaker 13: heading towards US international Super Bowl. Why I don't I

1502
01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:55,200
Speaker 13: don't want it. That feels very unpatriotic.

1503
01:16:56,680 --> 01:16:58,400
Speaker 3: This is American football, This.

1504
01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:00,439
Speaker 13: Is American this is our game.

1505
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:03,640
Speaker 2: We don't care about the rest of the world what

1506
01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:06,160
Speaker 2: they do, and then when they then then then when

1507
01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:10,440
Speaker 2: they're interviewing people on the streets of Dublin and Dublin.

1508
01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 3: And I just syay, it seeks about high points. I

1509
01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:17,240
Speaker 3: don't know how much of what are we.

1510
01:17:17,479 --> 01:17:22,719
Speaker 13: Doing also for that to be the first first game,

1511
01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:23,880
Speaker 13: first game.

1512
01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:26,640
Speaker 2: I just state, anyway, state do you think anyone in

1513
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:30,400
Speaker 2: Dublin could identify the states of Iowa Kansas on a map?

1514
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 3: No chance?

1515
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:34,080
Speaker 13: What are your what are some of your favorite now

1516
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:36,720
Speaker 13: that college football has officially kicked off, what are some

1517
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:41,240
Speaker 13: of your favorite college football game day traditions across the country.

1518
01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:44,559
Speaker 3: Well, a tailgating right off the bat.

1519
01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:47,000
Speaker 13: I mean any specific schools and pass trade.

1520
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:49,000
Speaker 2: Look at I look at it. Look at I am

1521
01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:51,599
Speaker 2: a West Coast guy. I understand here. It's not what

1522
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:54,559
Speaker 2: it is right everywhere else. Yes, So anytime I can

1523
01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:57,760
Speaker 2: see down in the South, especially the SEC, you look

1524
01:17:57,760 --> 01:18:00,840
Speaker 2: at all the pre game look I I nineteen ninety six,

1525
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:03,040
Speaker 2: so I was part of the UCLA broadcast and we

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01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 2: went to Niland Stadium in Knoxville one hundred and they

1527
01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:10,280
Speaker 2: had just had spended the stadium. This was Peyton Manning's

1528
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:13,080
Speaker 2: junior year and to walk into that stadium.

1529
01:18:13,160 --> 01:18:13,799
Speaker 13: That's different.

1530
01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:17,280
Speaker 2: One hundred thousand people all wearing orange, all wearing number

1531
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:20,519
Speaker 2: sixteen jerseys for a guy from the West Coast was

1532
01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:22,559
Speaker 2: awe inspiring. And then two weeks later, I'm in the

1533
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:24,960
Speaker 2: Big House in ann Arbor for another one hundred So we.

1534
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:26,720
Speaker 3: Had this scheduling thing. We're in Knoxville.

1535
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:29,160
Speaker 2: Two weeks later, I'm in ann Arbor, one hundred thousand

1536
01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:33,320
Speaker 2: plus in both of these stadiums, and as a college

1537
01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:35,920
Speaker 2: football fan, I mean I get chills even talking about

1538
01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:40,320
Speaker 2: it now, all these years later. So it's college football

1539
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:43,360
Speaker 2: is about tradition, it's about the rivalries, it's about the

1540
01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:47,519
Speaker 2: pageantry that separates it from the NFL. The NFL is

1541
01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:49,920
Speaker 2: a business. I'm not going to deny that the NFL

1542
01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:53,120
Speaker 2: are the greatest players on the planet, but it doesn't

1543
01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:56,400
Speaker 2: carry the same weight in terms of the pageantry the

1544
01:18:56,439 --> 01:18:58,439
Speaker 2: traditions that you have in college football.

1545
01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:01,200
Speaker 13: I also went to UCLA, and as beautiful as the

1546
01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:03,920
Speaker 13: Rose Bowl is it, we've seen We've seen a lot

1547
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:06,599
Speaker 13: of losses there. But part of my broadcast career took

1548
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:09,080
Speaker 13: me out to Oklahoma, so I was covering games in

1549
01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:10,719
Speaker 13: Norman with the Sooner schooner.

1550
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:11,599
Speaker 3: I have never been.

1551
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:16,240
Speaker 13: Oh my gosh, it is a special, special, sacred place

1552
01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:20,040
Speaker 13: for a college. And then still Water. You're they're covering

1553
01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:22,559
Speaker 13: games and they've got the paddle people just banging the

1554
01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:25,599
Speaker 13: paddles in the sky. Is blacker, I swear, than anywhere

1555
01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:27,680
Speaker 13: else in the country. There's nothing like a night Did

1556
01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:28,240
Speaker 13: you did you?

1557
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:31,320
Speaker 2: Did you cover the Oklahoma Texas game at the old

1558
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:32,680
Speaker 2: Cotton Bowl of Dallas.

1559
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:36,559
Speaker 13: Oh I wasn't. I wasn't our top notch shooter, so

1560
01:19:36,920 --> 01:19:39,800
Speaker 13: you know, because in those markets you're doing everything. But

1561
01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:43,280
Speaker 13: they did send me to the Texas tech Ou game,

1562
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:45,680
Speaker 13: which was Baker Patrick Mahomes.

1563
01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:50,120
Speaker 2: You saw that game was on the sideline past crazy game.

1564
01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:52,800
Speaker 13: I was feasting and my coworker looks at me and goes,

1565
01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:55,639
Speaker 13: there's no defense in this, and I go, I don't care.

1566
01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:58,320
Speaker 3: That's a game for the age. Oh yeah, you never saw.

1567
01:19:58,400 --> 01:19:59,880
Speaker 2: You got to look up the stats of both my

1568
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:03,080
Speaker 2: Homes and Mayfield down theirs they throw.

1569
01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:08,160
Speaker 13: Yeah, oh yeah, it was. I mean being there for

1570
01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:10,160
Speaker 13: for that one was was special.

1571
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:12,720
Speaker 3: Well, I can that's the difference. And that's here's the thing.

1572
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:16,000
Speaker 2: When you talk to football players, even the greatest NFL players.

1573
01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:19,360
Speaker 2: They will tell you I can remember almost every detail

1574
01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:23,080
Speaker 2: of my college career. Very few NFL games can I remember,

1575
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:24,320
Speaker 2: because it becomes a business.

1576
01:20:24,320 --> 01:20:25,040
Speaker 3: You got to get ready.

1577
01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:28,880
Speaker 2: But they can remember details like details of college.

1578
01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:31,479
Speaker 3: Games, random games. But when it comes to the NFL,

1579
01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:35,240
Speaker 3: it's a business that the NFL rules the world. College

1580
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:37,759
Speaker 3: football is not far behind. And here's the good news, Nikki.

1581
01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:38,960
Speaker 3: We have football now.

1582
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:43,880
Speaker 13: We have football now, and it feels wonderful and I'm

1583
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:46,759
Speaker 13: so excited, and I've got to get my fantasy draft

1584
01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:49,000
Speaker 13: prep work done.

1585
01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:50,160
Speaker 3: It's getting closed.

1586
01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:53,040
Speaker 13: How many leagues are you in any uh No.

1587
01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:55,479
Speaker 3: That's a story for another day. Save you of why

1588
01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:58,760
Speaker 3: I've sort of sees for next week. We'll do that.

1589
01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:00,280
Speaker 4: Come here.

1590
01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:02,120
Speaker 3: Much more coming up on Sports Radio.