1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: The Big Bets on Campus Podcast Podcast. 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 2: Pot all right, here we. 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: Go fifteen Cuddy forwenty five, thirty thirty five, forty forty 4 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: five fifty and the. 5 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 3: Kick as block look college Football World standard. 6 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, he stumbled and football it's a. 7 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 2: Lateral turn, a counter on the jibe. Get you believe 8 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 2: I'm not tamelem off the fail to night. 9 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 1: It's not the side of the dog in the fighting. 10 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: It's the side of the fight in the hall. 11 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 2: What's up the general nation? Welcome to the Big Bets 12 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 2: on Campus Podcast. This is the ACC Betting Preview. I'm 13 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 2: stucky and joining me as always my co host Colin Wilson, 14 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 2: have a what's already special guest today about Elliott is 15 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 2: going to talk some ACC share his thoughts right off 16 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 2: the top before we get to him. Com excited to 17 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 2: talk some ACC. I see you got a new NC 18 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 2: State helmet behind you. Hopefully don't have to take that 19 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 2: down after a trip to Greenville in week one. 20 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 1: You got to stop this ECU thing. It's going to 21 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: happen here in week one with me. You're giving me 22 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: the sweats already and we're not even here. I have 23 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 1: to say, like I'm looking forward to this podcast because 24 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: generally we get to fourteen teams in the ACC, six 25 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: to eight of them we just kind of throw away. 26 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: We don't want to really do that much deep dive 27 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: research on duke qs, you know some of these teams 28 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 1: at the bottom. But I had a really great time 29 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: at ACC media days. They make it feel more like 30 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: a party atmosphere. I think they take care of everybody 31 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: that's there by. The SEC just feels mechanical. The Big 32 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: twelve is in the big, open, empty Cowboys Stadium in 33 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: AT and T, But once you get to ACC, it's 34 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: very close in proximity, and that allows you to get 35 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: up in Djueyungalley's face. That allows you to get up 36 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: in Dave Doran's face and ask them like the questions 37 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: that you want. The access to players and coaches was 38 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: better at ACC than it was any other media day. 39 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: So I'm excited to have Bud here. I'm excited I 40 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 1: have a new NC State helmet behind me, and there 41 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: is no loss coming against East Carolina. 42 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 2: Stuck Well, I'm telling you NC State that's are nervous 43 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 2: about that game. Weird things can happen in Greenville and 44 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 2: that rivalry, but we'll get to NC State. 45 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 4: Hi, this is the producer, Matt Mitchell. Just a fyi. 46 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 4: This episode was recorded right before the news of Sam 47 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 4: Hartman at Wake Forest and his non football related medical 48 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 4: condition and his status as out indefinitely. Kellen and Stuckey 49 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 4: will speak to this on the beginning of our Big 50 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,119 Speaker 4: ten episode next week. 51 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 2: And before we bring in Bud. Just give a picture 52 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 2: of the ACC landscape. You mentioned access to coaches. There's 53 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 2: a lot of coaching changes right. There's four new head 54 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 2: coaches in the ACC, and the coordinator changes are just insane. 55 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 2: There's fourteen teams, eleven new offensive coordinators if you count 56 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 2: a cooc in one situation, eight new defensive coordinators and 57 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 2: depending on if you think some quarterback battle are actually battles, 58 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 2: not up to five quarterback battles. You mentioned that C 59 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 2: State by the only team in the entire conference to 60 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 2: retain their entire staff and mentioned quarterback battles. This is 61 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 2: a quarterback rich league. If you look at some projections 62 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 2: for you know, NFL Draft twenty twenty three quarterbacks, you 63 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 2: could argue like seven of the top twenty are in 64 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 2: the ACC. So there's a lot of quarterback talent in 65 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 2: the conference. But let's talk about some of that and 66 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 2: bring in mister Bud Elliott. You know him from the 67 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 2: Cover three podcast and probably from Twitter and other endeavors. 68 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 2: What's going on? 69 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 5: But what's going on? 70 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,119 Speaker 6: Guys, got to be back. We had NC State hard 71 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 6: last year on this show. That was that was good. 72 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: You just got back from Las Vegas. Was the the 73 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: hammer and NC State numbers They've been hammered for like 74 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: six months? Was it finding value out there on anything? 75 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 5: Not on NC State. 76 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 6: I did get quite a few tickets on Arkansas State 77 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 6: under five and a half minus fifty from a MGM Kiosk. 78 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 5: That was good. 79 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 2: Kiosk bets are always sweet when you find out players. 80 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 6: Kiosk right right, Yeah, jumped on the bandwagon with Colin 81 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 6: for Donovan Edwards of three hundred and one for the Heisman, 82 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 6: had a little piece of that. 83 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 5: It was. It was a good trip. 84 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 2: I just bet Texas State found a cheaper seven out there, 85 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 2: my first bet of the year. But I'm gonna get 86 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 2: your thoughts on some of these things that I just 87 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 2: mentioned off the top. Let's start with the quarterback battles. 88 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 2: You know, you could say there's you know, up to 89 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 2: five if you think like Slovis is in a battle, 90 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,359 Speaker 2: I think North Carolina is the ones that's maybe the 91 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,799 Speaker 2: most interesting. And which one are you either most excited 92 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 2: about or do you think is going to have the 93 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 2: biggest impact, like that really matters and who ends up 94 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 2: winning it for their team from. 95 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 6: A gambling standpoint, I do think it's North Carolina because 96 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 6: of the different styles of quarterback at play. 97 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 2: Right. 98 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 6: So Drake may is a guy who was committed to Alabama, 99 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 6: you know, big time arm Kobe. Chris Well is a 100 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 6: guy who is kind of a mix so you can 101 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 6: throw it, but he can also run it a little more. 102 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 6: I don't think it would run it quite as much 103 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 6: with Drake May, so, so that one for the tar 104 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 6: Heels is one I'm gona be monitoring pretty closely in 105 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 6: terms of tempo. 106 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 2: Isn'tre a true freshman involved in that too? Potentially? Connors Yeah, Yeah. 107 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 1: Josh Downs came out yesterday after practice and said that 108 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: Chriswell is the one that he had the most chemistry 109 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: with so far. So definitely, if you're out there betting 110 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: quarterbacks who's going to start Game one, just keep an 111 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 1: eye on Camp there for the tar Heels. 112 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, especially because I think Carolina, from just an improvement perspective, 113 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 2: might have could arguably have the most improved defense. I mean, 114 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 2: they can't go anywhere else but up. But then if 115 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 2: they're also playing slower, could be a really good under team. 116 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 2: Early on in the season, talked about a lot of 117 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 2: the coaching changes, right, four new head coaches and then 118 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 2: just it feels like every single team has a new 119 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 2: offensive coordinator in the ACC and then there's a handful 120 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 2: of new defensive coordinators as well. I'll let you go 121 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 2: wherever you want to go with this offensive, defensive coordinator 122 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 2: or head coach. Which one do you think has either 123 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 2: the biggest positive impact or do you think is just 124 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 2: a complete disaster of a move this upcoming season. 125 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 6: The one I'm really curious about it, and I'm not 126 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 6: super high on this team, is what Syracuse is doing right, 127 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 6: because you go from running that sort of Baylor esque 128 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 6: system which you got the job with, to be honest, 129 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 6: to running what UVA was running last year. They basically 130 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 6: took UVa's almost their entire offensive coaching staff. They're going 131 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,359 Speaker 6: to throw the ball around, I assume more than they 132 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 6: did last year. All though that they're still going to 133 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 6: run it. I mean, you have Sean Tucker, there's a 134 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 6: really good player. Is Garrett Trader actually good at throwing 135 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 6: the ball? Because number so far suggests he's not. Protection 136 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 6: has been an issue, you know, receivers there have been 137 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 6: a bit of an issue. They're calling it more pro style. 138 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 6: I'm not really convinced this is going to work. It 139 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 6: could work. I did play these guys under five and 140 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 6: a half minus ninety. When it came out, I thought 141 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 6: that was, like, that's pretty heavy Jews. But I did 142 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 6: feel like laying that. I'm curious. 143 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think. I don't think it was a 144 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 2: stylistics fit. Just what the Trader can do and what 145 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 2: they they were just like a shotgun like shotgun and 146 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 2: run it with either one of those. Last year, Syracuse 147 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 2: just had a quarterback who's probably going to be more 148 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 2: depth of thrown. It got hurt. He's out for the 149 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 2: year now. I don't know if he was eventually going 150 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 2: to get the job. Feels like a desperation move from Babers, 151 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 2: and I just don't see the fit with Trader. But 152 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 2: I completely agree with your con What we're gonna say. 153 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: What I want to add, Bud is we've lost both 154 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 1: coordinators at Clemson. Dabbo acts like, you know, promoting from within, 155 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 1: there's just not going to be a beat miss. We're 156 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: keeping the same scheme, We're keeping the same personnel grouping. 157 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: Everybody's going to know the verbiage that we're using on 158 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: the field. My problem is is you can't replicate Brent vinnibles. 159 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: It's impossible. And I'm supposed to all of a sudden 160 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: believe that Wes Goodwin can do that. I know he's 161 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: the right hand man, But do you expect any bumps 162 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: with Clemson's offense and defense considering it coming from within? 163 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 6: So I didn't really love the internal promotion on offense. 164 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 6: I feel like because they weren't very good last year. No, 165 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 6: I know, they had a lot of problems. Receivers were 166 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 6: all sort of the same body type. They all just 167 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 6: looked the exact same build and not a lot of 168 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 6: diversity of bodies in that room, which you kind of 169 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 6: need to have a functional receiver unit. It's cool and 170 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 6: madden to have everybody to be six or five, and 171 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 6: you know, like it's kind of important to have some 172 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 6: slots and some EXAs and some wives. In actual football, 173 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 6: they didn't really have that last year. I know they 174 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 6: had some offensive line issues up front, but I didn't 175 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 6: love that promotion just because I felt like maybe some 176 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 6: new voices in the room could do a bit of 177 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 6: good for the Tigers. I have heard the running more 178 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 6: tempo this year, though, so if that now everybody says 179 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 6: we're going to try to go faster, more intense, blah 180 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 6: blah blah. But if they really do run more tempo, 181 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 6: that's one to take note up. Defensively, though, I knew 182 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 6: about Wes Goodwin for a while because I had a 183 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 6: coach in that room tell me, this is the guy 184 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 6: that Venables talks to in the room, like even more 185 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 6: than some of the utter defensive coaches. 186 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 5: This is the guy he bounced stuff off. 187 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 6: So like, clearly, this is the dude in that room, 188 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 6: according to the guy I talked to, who Venables really 189 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 6: trusted when it came to scheme and design of the defense. 190 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 6: So I maybe not as good with the sign stealing stuff, 191 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 6: but I if Venables respects this guy that much for 192 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 6: the other coaches to take notice, I don't think Clemps 193 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 6: is going to miss a beat defensively, and they also 194 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 6: had a lot of injuries last year on that defensive 195 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 6: line and we're still pretty dominant. They stay healthy, they 196 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 6: have a chance to just basically wipe everybody. 197 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: The tack Onto what Budd is saying. Clemson finished fiftieth 198 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: and seconds per play last year, And Bud and I 199 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: were both standing around Dabbo and I asked, did you 200 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: want to run more up tempo last year? Are you 201 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 1: planning on going back to up tempo? And Dabo's exact 202 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: response was, we weren't good enough to run tempo. We 203 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: had to do things to win games. So you know, 204 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: depending on how that offense is going is going to 205 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: dictate how many points clem is going to score. So 206 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: if you see efficiency and success rate and chain's moving 207 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: and and scores getting up on the board, they're gonna 208 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: they're going to go faster. They'll finish higher than twenty 209 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: five points for play. 210 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, but as regards to totals, look, the defensive 211 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,959 Speaker 2: line has a chance to be historically great. So who's 212 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 2: scoring on them? And they in order to put up points. 213 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 2: I don't care how fast you go if your quarterback 214 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 2: play looks like it did last year, Which brings me 215 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 2: to my next question, do you have a hot take 216 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 2: on DJ and do you think like if they if 217 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 2: it ends up being you know, Koublik who gets the job, 218 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 2: orre're gonna say, wow, okay, I am way more in 219 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 2: than Clemson because of the ceiling. Are you just in 220 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 2: weight and see mode? Because like it didn't look great 221 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,439 Speaker 2: in spring, there's you know, reports about his weight is 222 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 2: in better shape like so, and then what we saw 223 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 2: last year compared to you know, his pedigree with a 224 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 2: new offensive coordinator. I'm out of trouble, just kind of 225 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 2: gauging where I rate him going into this year. Do 226 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 2: you have any thoughts on that quarterback battle end or 227 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 2: just DJ in general? 228 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 6: Yeah, so I do have a couple thoughts. Number One, 229 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 6: I don't think that the people who think DJ is 230 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:16,199 Speaker 6: really talented or wrong. 231 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 5: I've seen this kid play as a recruit. 232 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 6: He has some really special physical tools and he was 233 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 6: really good as a freshman. 234 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 5: He struggled a lot last year. 235 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 6: I think there was a lot put on his plate 236 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 6: and you can maybe take that metaphorically as well, but 237 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 6: he's skinnier now, like Columbus Stanton there if you guys 238 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 6: saw him last year, and as somebody who's seen him 239 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:35,839 Speaker 6: throughout his career, really since he was a sophomore in 240 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 6: high school. He's definitely slimmed back down, so maybe he'll 241 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 6: move better in the pocket. Streeter was the quarterback coach, 242 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 6: so him promoted being promoted to the officer coordinator. Maybe 243 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 6: there's some more chemistry there that they call plays that 244 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,599 Speaker 6: DJ likes a little bit better. But kay Klepnick is 245 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 6: legit as well, like very very highly rated kid for 246 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 6: a reason, falled out in the Texas State playoffs. I 247 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 6: have more offense in Clemson's quarterback room improving this year 248 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 6: just because either DJ will get back to some sort 249 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 6: of acceptable level or they'll play the fresh. 250 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 2: Well can't get much worse if you have a favorite 251 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 2: win total over and or under, or you can spin 252 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:17,319 Speaker 2: it with like the team that you think will be 253 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 2: overvalued early in the season or undervalued. So kind of 254 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 2: just like a buying and selling acc overview. 255 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 5: Where you want to go with this is Louisville still 256 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 5: five and a half or we mostly six? 257 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 2: Is there? 258 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 6: I kind of like that either way. I think Louisville 259 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 6: will have the best offense that they've had under Scott Saderfield. 260 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 6: You get leek Cunningham back, you get a pretty nice 261 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 6: offensive lineback. They do lose Tyler Harrell, the transfer receiver 262 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 6: to Alabama, but that's not really a drop back offense anyway. 263 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 6: It's more of a play action type system, and I 264 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 6: feel like they're fairly good at scheming guys open defensively. 265 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 6: One position they needed to address for a long time 266 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:56,839 Speaker 6: was the nose guard spot. Louis will give up a 267 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 6: lot of movement if you watch them at the point 268 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 6: of attack from the euro Tech And this year they 269 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 6: went and they got Jermaine Lola. I know Flda was 270 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 6: trying to get him and if Florida was annoyed they 271 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 6: could not get. 272 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 5: Him, that could be a big time help. 273 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 6: Now, he didn't really play much last year, only two 274 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 6: hundred fifty snaps at Arizona State before getting hurt. But 275 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 6: if he's back and healthy, I think that team you 276 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 6: could win eight games, right, and they're over runders like six. 277 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: Now. 278 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 6: I already played them at Syracuse and laid two, so 279 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 6: I kind of like just laying the number at Syracuse 280 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 6: better than I do, you know, playing Louisvill's win total over. 281 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 6: But either a are a fine bet in my opinion, 282 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 6: just if they lose that Syracuse game. They're probably not 283 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 6: going to go over the win total, right. 284 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my only beat, that's my only beef with 285 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 2: the two. I mean, their schedule is vicious. I mean 286 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 2: they only have two pretty much given wins on the 287 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 2: whole schedule. I have them favored in six games, but 288 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 2: under a touchdown, there'll be a dog at Clemson and 289 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 2: they have three true coin flips, and like they're only 290 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 2: you know, three point favorites at Syracuse and then the 291 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 2: last two games of the year, it's like NC State 292 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 2: at home coin flip, at Kentucky coin flip. So it's 293 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 2: like the first and last games, are you tying up 294 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 2: your money? I agree, I project him at like seven four, 295 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 2: but there's so many coin flips on his schedule that 296 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 2: is just completely underlenting. But they won six games less 297 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 2: you want to owe four and one possession games. I 298 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 2: think that they're trending up, but maybe they're just better 299 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 2: to bet in the first and last game and then 300 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 2: on the game the game basis during the year. But 301 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 2: if I was going to pick a side on Louisville 302 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 2: certainly would go over from a numbers perspective. 303 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with that too, But Malie Cunningham is 304 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: so important to that offense that without him they lose 305 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: their biggest weapon through the air on the ground, and 306 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: I think, you know, I want to play the win 307 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: total over two. I've held myself back this preseason because 308 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: if something happens to him, teams that cannot tackle in 309 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: space get run over by Louisville completely. So keep your 310 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: eye on that. 311 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 6: This year. Louisville offensive line is really good. Okay, as 312 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 6: far as far as run blocking, Syracuse lost everybody on 313 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 6: the defensive line who played two hundred fifty plus snaps 314 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 6: last year. Is that the opening game you want if 315 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 6: you're Syracuse like an offensive line and Louisville it's ready 316 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 6: to roll and committee in the mouth. I don't think 317 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 6: that it is. And I'm a little skeptical about some 318 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 6: of these replacements. The Q says along that defensive line, 319 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 6: they're gonna tell you they're gonna be undersized, but fast penetrating. 320 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 6: They better be, because that they are really lacking bulk. 321 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 6: If you look at their projecting depth chart, did they 322 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 6: have any three hundred pounders up front or even any 323 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 6: guys who are two ninety It's it's uh. If you're 324 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 6: just on the field watching them warm up. I think 325 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 6: that would be something you would notice, like, Okay, this 326 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 6: is kind of one of the more extreme speed defenses, 327 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 6: not not somebody that can stand getting punched. 328 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we talked about that before. I mean, I 329 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 2: really like the I mean the line just feels fishy. 330 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 2: But I really like Louisville there too. I mean linebackers, 331 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 2: the strength on their defense, the secondary, they hard, they 332 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 2: hit the portal hard to improve. A second that it 333 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 2: was really bad last year, but we don't does anyone 334 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 2: really afraid of what Syracuse is going to do through 335 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 2: the air this year? And you're right that offensive line, 336 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 2: which wichurns I think over one hundred and ten starts, 337 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 2: brings in a new offense coordinator who I think will 338 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 2: improve the offensive line also. So yeah, I completely agree 339 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 2: with you. How aout someone you're selling in the ACC. 340 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 5: Yeah. So I have two that that I've already met. 341 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 6: The under on and look, I don't like Georgia either, 342 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 6: but I feel like their number has gotten pretty damn low. 343 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 5: Maybe there's still some room there. 344 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 6: But I did play under on Syracuse at five and 345 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 6: a half minus ninety, which is the steep price, but 346 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 6: I felt like I don't see a whole lot of 347 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 6: path for them to get six. 348 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 5: Maybe all be wrong. The other team I'm fading pretty 349 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 5: hard is Virginia. 350 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 6: I'm not really sure that they have a whole lot 351 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 6: of talent to make that defense improve a whole lot. 352 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 6: And then here's the key. They lost all five offensive 353 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 6: line starters off that team last year. And Virginia is 354 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 6: a squad that has trouble taking transfers because a lot 355 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 6: of people's credits are not going to transfer in to Virginia. 356 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 6: And they took two this year. They took John Paul 357 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 6: Flores from Dartmouth and he took Mark Hollensteiner from Georgetown. 358 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 6: Allistinner was a pretty decorated guy at Georgetown. Here's problem, 359 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 6: he's not on the roster guys. He transferred back to 360 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 6: Georgetown for quote unquote personal reasons. That offensive line is 361 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 6: really really young, and I just feel like they had 362 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 6: a special mixtuere last year. I don't see this team 363 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 6: winning six games. I have them like slightly under six. 364 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 6: So for me, seven and a half half minus forty 365 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 6: through the under is play with UVA that I currently like, 366 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 6: like at current odds in the ACC. 367 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: And Brandon Armstrong is going to be running for his life. 368 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: This is the same thing as Malite Cunningham, except he 369 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: has a bit of an offensive line to protect him. 370 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: There's no offensive line here whatsoever. Brandon Armstrong gets hurt, 371 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: that's the entire Virginia offense. So, you know, good luck 372 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: to Tony Elliot in his first year. I think the 373 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator higher was great, but that's not going to 374 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: change overnight. The only thing they have going for them 375 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: is a pretty easy schedule, and it's a pretty easy start. 376 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, could they start seven and lho like if everything 377 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 2: goes right, if you believe in Virginia, like that's you know, 378 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 2: before you get to the end of the season, like 379 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 2: that's that you could look at that, and that's why 380 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 2: you would be kind of cautious to go under. But yeah, 381 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 2: I agree with you. They went one hundred and twenty 382 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 2: two starts returned last year on the offensive line, FBS 383 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 2: starts this year two two FBS starts on the offensive line. 384 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 2: That's an enormous question. What can Armstrong do with all 385 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 2: like a roster that like has so many questions and so, yeah, 386 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 2: the schedule is favorable, but you are right, I think 387 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 2: that there's way more question then answers outside of the 388 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 2: quarterback position. With a Virginia team that only won six 389 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 2: games last year, and that includes a win against Miami 390 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 2: who missed like a twenty eight yard field goal to 391 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 2: win the game, and they've gone six and six the 392 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 2: last two years. Two of those wins their opponent missed 393 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 2: a field a chip shot field goal to win. And actually, 394 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 2: I would be remiss if I didn't ask you about 395 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 2: Florida States. I'll get I'll give you one sentence thoughts 396 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 2: on novel. We have quick thoughts on fso. 397 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:24,360 Speaker 5: I think the number is good. 398 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 6: Boocher's I know there who had to cut the check 399 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 6: to pay Willy Taggart are happy with Norvelle making consistent progress. 400 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 6: They think it was a dumpster fire he took over, 401 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 6: so they're gonna be patient with him. Dion's not going 402 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 6: to be the head coach in twenty twenty three. 403 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 2: Appreciate you joining us. Where can people find you out? 404 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, guys, just follow me on Twitter at bud Elliott three. 405 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 6: I do a little newsletter. I just email Bud Elliott 406 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 6: CFB at gmail dot com and check us out on 407 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 6: the Covery Podcast five days a week during the season. 408 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 2: We'll talk to you throughout the year. Good luck this season, 409 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 2: and thanks for all your insight. 410 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 5: All right, so you guys, all right. 411 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 2: Com let's get into some of the teams. We'll touch 412 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 2: on every team, some of them we won't go that 413 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 2: in depth on, like Duke cares. I guess I should 414 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 2: say the odds to win the conference Clemson minus one 415 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,959 Speaker 2: fifty to win the ACC. Next up is Miami at 416 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 2: plus five hundred, NC State around plus eight hundred. Obviously, 417 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 2: shop round for the best number pulice from one book 418 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 2: right before it's recording pit ten to one, Weight twenty 419 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 2: one to one, UNC twenty five to one, Louisville thirty 420 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 2: to one, Florida State thirty to one, Virginia BC around 421 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 2: fifty to one, as with BO Tech, and then you're 422 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 2: in the dregs with Georgia Tech and Duke Big. Duke's 423 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 2: one thousand to one to win the ACC. Let's start 424 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 2: in the ACC Atlantic, where Clemson's a minus two hundred 425 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 2: minus two twenty favorite NC State next to plus four 426 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 2: twenty five. The key here is that Clemson does host 427 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 2: NC State, which will go a long way and determining 428 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 2: who wins the division and that's one of the reasons 429 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 2: why Clemson is a favorite. Here, we'll start with Clemson 430 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 2: win total over ten and a half. We talked about 431 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 2: them are new coordinators, quarterback battle, nasty defense, some questions 432 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 2: on the offensive line, what will receiver look like? Should 433 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 2: be improved. You know, they lost like centers in the 434 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 2: last two years. Usually we're used to Clemson, you know, 435 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 2: two three years ago, they're double digit favorites in every game. Right, Well, 436 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 2: this year I have them double digit favorites in seven games. 437 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 2: That's it. That's low for you know, the clumpson of 438 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 2: a couple of years ago. And additionally, at BC is 439 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 2: a tough spot. Right at BC comes after the NC 440 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 2: State game and before at FSU. Same against Louisville. Right 441 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 2: they played louisvall at home. That's after a trip to 442 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 2: Notre Dame and before a game against Miami. So some 443 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 2: tough spots in there. On games that they're going to 444 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 2: be at least a medium sized favorite. I have them 445 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 2: only favored by single digits in five games and or 446 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 2: coin flip at Notre Dame at Wake, NC State at home, 447 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 2: Miami at home, and Florida State. So there's games that 448 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 2: they could certainly drop, especially if the quarterback play doesn't improve. 449 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 2: And you know the coordinators, they've had coordinator continuity for 450 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 2: so long. I project them at nine point eight. So 451 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 2: win total sitting at ten and a half, I'm at 452 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 2: like ninety seven five, nine seventy six. I think i'd 453 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 2: lead under here, and it's all eyes on the quarterback situation. 454 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on the Clemson win total? 455 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm under with you. I project this at ten, 456 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: so i'd say under ten and a half. I went 457 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 1: to ACC media days with the whole goal of getting 458 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: in front of Djueungalley and seeing what I could take 459 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 1: from the kid. Two hundred and thirty five pounds. He 460 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,239 Speaker 1: ballooned up to two sixty after the season last year, 461 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: after the Cheeza Bowl, he looked thin. He's got meal control, 462 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 1: he's got his workouts. It's hard to deny that he 463 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: listens to the whispers, he reads message boards, and he 464 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: hears voices when he has bad play. Not sure I 465 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 1: can bet a national championship on a player or a 466 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: quarterback of a college football team that is listening to 467 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: whispers and rumors and reading message boards. It's just you know, 468 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,959 Speaker 1: and he had a season last year, ninety ds nine interceptions. 469 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: He had a drop rate of thirty percent. Who's adjust 470 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: a completion rate fell off the map below fifty percent 471 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: when he had a pressured pocket. So whether that's weight 472 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: related or that's mental related footwork, it doesn't matter one 473 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 1: of the Moor seasons for a quarterback on a team 474 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 1: that's supposed to contend for the national championship. So see 475 00:20:57,920 --> 00:20:59,239 Speaker 1: if you can pick it up. When we look at 476 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: the Cave clubneck, kid point nine to ninety five one 477 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 1: was his recruiting rank, which is just, you know, a 478 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: couple hundred and tenths below where Trevor Lawrence was the 479 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 1: year before. Gonna swap out offensive coordinator Tony Elliott, We're 480 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: gonna come in with Brandon Streeter, and that's the quarterback coach. 481 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 1: The Streeter gonna be able to replicate what Tony Elliott did, 482 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 1: what Jeff Scott did, what Chad Morris did. They were 483 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: able to go through those seamless transitions, but they had 484 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: to shun Watson. They had Trevor Lawrence, they had Kelly Bryant. 485 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: So you know, we're gonna find out what DJ is 486 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: made of. And I think maybe we could be on 487 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: to club Nick pretty fast if he doesn't get it 488 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: worked out. So all eyes on the quarterback position. An 489 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: offensive line that should dominate Jordan McFadden his back. They 490 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,239 Speaker 1: had better continuity as the year went on, and they 491 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: have a great running attack between Kobe Pace and Will Shipley. 492 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 1: They're not Travis etn I should point that out. I 493 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: think we got baby by Travis et in forever, maybe 494 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 1: an underrated player that we've ever seen in college football 495 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 1: because this office has been literally broken ever since he left. 496 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: And then on the defense, Miles Murphy is going to 497 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: be a household name as an edge rusher. Brian Burresi 498 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: is going to be back from his torn ACL. He's 499 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: climbing NFL boards and in tiers. 500 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 2: The beast D line in college football cups has really 501 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 2: experienced once. You know, they don't have coordinator continuity, but 502 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 2: usually they lose a ton of guys. In the NFL, 503 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 2: they didn't really lose much, so they went from like 504 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 2: one of the least experienced teams last season to now, 505 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 2: you know, top forty. It's they're not used to being there. 506 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 2: They usually lose a lot in the NFL. Now they 507 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 2: don't bring anyone in the transfer quortable. They're much more 508 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 2: experience this year. They did still with ten games last year, 509 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 2: but five and two and one posion games usually could 510 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 2: have only been like seven wins. Quarterback play has to 511 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:24,959 Speaker 2: get better. But the question is on defense, how much 512 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 2: they missed ventables? And then is the defensive line just 513 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 2: so good? Because the one question on the defense is 514 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 2: in the secondary, you know, is it is it so 515 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,439 Speaker 2: good that it doesn't even matter in the secondary. Those 516 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 2: are my two main questions with the defensi venables impact, 517 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 2: and then is the defensive line just so good that 518 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 2: it doesn't really matter what they lost in the secondary? 519 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 2: Fourteen teams in the ACC. That's why ten percent of 520 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 2: all of fbs and in the top twenty of the 521 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 2: NFL quarterback prospects for an extra draft, you can argue 522 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 2: seven are in this conference. That's a thirty five percent 523 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 2: of the top twenty. So there's very capable quarterbacks in 524 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 2: this league. So like that's what you're we're going to 525 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 2: have to handicap with clumpson all year. It's like, okay, 526 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 2: you're going up against all these quarterbacks. How much can 527 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 2: their defensive line just disrupt anything everything? They're certainly going 528 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 2: to get tested. 529 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: You look at NC State right there, and they got 530 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 1: questions in the backfield, right We'll get to them with 531 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,479 Speaker 1: Jordan Houston, But I mean, they lost two of their 532 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: best running backs. So is there a rushing attack out there? 533 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: Or should teams just line up and start throwing on 534 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: first down against this defensive line. So it's going to 535 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,199 Speaker 1: be really interesting to see how they're attacked and if 536 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:30,880 Speaker 1: it's going to be at the linebacker level, if it's 537 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 1: going to be at the secondary level, because Venables isn't there. 538 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,360 Speaker 1: So I think Goodwin's going to get tested real fast. 539 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: It's going to be a fascinating watch. But I'm under 540 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: on this team. Klub Mik. I really like what he 541 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 1: did in the spring. It's got the pedigree. He ran track, 542 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 1: so he's you know, in high school, so he's got 543 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: some burner, he's got some legs on him, he can 544 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 1: take off from the pocket. It's going to be completely 545 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 1: different than what DJ brings to the table. So we'll 546 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: see how Clemson season go. But for me under ten 547 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 1: and a half. 548 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 3: It was big wild j bring your own guts and 549 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 3: I bought some good talked about NC State getting a 550 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 3: lot of love preseason, especially from a guy with the 551 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 3: initial CW win total sitting at over eight and a half, 552 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 3: like minus one six year, you know, around nine depends 553 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 3: on where you look. 554 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 2: This is a team that's getting a lot of love. 555 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 2: And like I mentioned in the they're the only team 556 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 2: in the AEC that brings their entire staff back to 557 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 2: get Devin Leary back at quarterback. Their entire staff is back. 558 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 2: One the most experienced defenses in the country. You could 559 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 2: argue the best linebacking corps in the country. There are 560 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 2: questions at receiver. They lose their leading receiver, they lost 561 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 2: two dynamite running backs. They lose their star left tackle 562 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 2: to the NFL. A little worried about some of the 563 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 2: pressure they can generate off the edge and havoc special teams. 564 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 2: Maybe a question. They lost a punter to the NFL 565 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 2: and a stud kick returner one of those two backs. 566 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 2: They do have a good kicker at least, and I 567 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 2: look at their schedule win total, like I said, sitting 568 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 2: around really juiced eight and a half nine. I have 569 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 2: them double dig your favorites in seven games to that 570 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 2: ECU game. I've talked about it. It's a tough spot 571 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,360 Speaker 2: and so is the game against QS. They go two 572 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 2: QS after Clemson and Florida State, and you know we've 573 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 2: seen them before or even with the Clemson like weird 574 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 2: things can happen at Syracuse. So two of those games 575 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,360 Speaker 2: where they should be double digit favorites, like right around ten, 576 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,919 Speaker 2: those are two tough spots in there. And then they 577 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 2: have four coin flips right like at Louisville at UNC 578 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 2: to close out the year. You know, they Va Tech 579 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 2: at home. Florida State, they at least get at home. 580 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 2: That game comes after Clemson, maybe maybe another tough spot. 581 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 2: It's also moorth mentioning the qses off of buy in 582 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 2: that tough spot. I project them at like eight six five, 583 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:28,959 Speaker 2: so I would like, you know, if you could get 584 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 2: like a I guess I would lean onder, but I 585 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 2: think the number is pretty right. They haven't won ten 586 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 2: games since two thousand and two when Philip Rivers was there. 587 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 2: They did get like, you know, a number of special 588 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 2: teams and defensive touchdowns last year. Their plus six turnover margin, 589 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 2: their defense should be nasty, but they just I'm worried 590 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 2: about the passing offense. They were what ninety first and 591 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 2: passing success right, and now you lose them. MESSI, but 592 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 2: you love NC State, You're in on them to win 593 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 2: the conference. Explain why, I do they. 594 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 1: Have enough experience coming back on the offensive line. Last 595 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: year they were thirteenth and havoc allowed. I don't think 596 00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 1: Devin Learry is going to get touched. And when you 597 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: talk about that, Devin Leary's numbers continue to take off 598 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 1: a ridiculous td to I int rate. 599 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 2: He was thirty five touchdowns five interceptions last year. So 600 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 2: I mentioned the turner margin. Well, it helps when you 601 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 2: have a quarterback who is thirty more touchdowns and interceptions. 602 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: Larry Ranks is the best quarterback in the nation and 603 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: turnover worthy play rate. I mean, you can call that 604 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: offensive line, you can call that, you know, bad defenses 605 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 1: in the acc an amazing stat and that shows you 606 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: how accurate Leary was. I think he's gonna be able 607 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: to go into Clemson just fine. If you can go 608 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: into Mississippi State and you can listen to the cow 609 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 1: bells ring all day, I think you're not gonna have 610 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: a problem with any kind of audible sound or anything 611 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 1: from a descibel level when he goes down and plays 612 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 1: against Clemson. Dave Dorian Leaves in this team so much 613 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 1: they added just one player in the transfer portal, So 614 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: the team is just loaded in every single unit, more 615 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 1: than seventy seven percent back on both sides of the ball. 616 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: The big question, like I said, is a running back. 617 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: Where Jordan Houston. I mean, he is patiently waited for 618 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: this team to get starter duties. In twenty nineteen, he 619 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: was on fire. He had twenty six misstackles, he averaged 620 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: three point seven yards after contact, and then he just 621 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: got buried depth charts by Bam Bam Knight and Ricky Person. 622 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 1: So it's Houston's time. We'll see what he can do. 623 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: And there's guys behind him too. So from an experience perspective, 624 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 1: it looks like they don't have any because you know, 625 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: you look at last year's stats, but you know, Jordan 626 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 1: Houston actually has been there before. And I'll say this, 627 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,199 Speaker 1: it's like, is it unfathomable that NC State can make 628 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 1: the college football Playoff? I mean, wake Forest and Pitt 629 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 1: were in this situation last year where we were still 630 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,880 Speaker 1: talking about them in November. Now, granted, wake we knew 631 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: that they had no shot, but I mean, at least 632 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: they were in the discussion every Tuesday night when they 633 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: released the rankings. When you flip over the defense, this 634 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 1: might be the best overall defense, and defensive corner of 635 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: Tony Gibson is probably the best in the game right now. 636 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:40,640 Speaker 1: They were top thirty in havoc and now they get 637 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: their linebacker Drake Thomas, two shut down corners back. The 638 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 1: defense is just absolutely loaded. And when you question, like Clemson, 639 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: if NC State defense can stop a wheel Shipley in 640 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: a Kobe pace in the run game, the wolf Pack 641 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: finished fifth in the nation defensive stuff rate. They were 642 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: in the gaps. No one was getting through the line 643 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 1: of scrimmage, So there's a great chance they're tackling behind 644 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: the line scrimmage and beating Clemson again. They've already done it. 645 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 1: There's no mental hurdle here with beating Clemson. They've already 646 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 1: done it. This team is super focused and super pissed 647 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: off that their bowl game was called off. The day of. 648 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 1: It's all they could talk about. The head coach looked 649 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: mad at media days. The players look mad. I couldn't 650 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: get them to crack a smile because if you remember, 651 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 1: ruggers got to go play a bowl game because they 652 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: had one day notice, right, I mean NC State would 653 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: have loved to have anybody come in and fill that spot, 654 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 1: So I'm sold on these guys more than anything. Obviously, 655 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 1: the hedge spot is Clemson. Now that numbers come down 656 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 1: from fourteen to one, I think eight to one to 657 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: win the ACC. And that's not good because you're gonna 658 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: have to spend your hedge money right there on that spot. 659 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: But yes, NC State is the play, and there's only 660 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: one game to hedge, and it's against Clemson, and I'm 661 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: not hedging. I'm playing NC State all the way. 662 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 2: Worried about that too. They have enough explosiveness in the 663 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 2: passing attack, like I'm not doubting Leary's ability, but just 664 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 2: it was a passing attack that left exposed in this 665 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 2: last year. And you lose your most explosive receiver and 666 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 2: your explosive bats like you're going up against that Clemson 667 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 2: defensive front. That's again they're gonna have to win get 668 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 2: to the ACC Championship in all likelihood, So no play 669 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 2: for me on NC State. I think that game at 670 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 2: EC is gonna set the tone for their season, and 671 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 2: don't sleep on tripping off at QS if they end 672 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 2: up beating Clemson. But let's finish up in Atlanta, we 673 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 2: talked about Florida State. I like what they're doing. 674 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 4: I lean over here, welcome aboard slugger. 675 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 2: But they have I think I project them if you 676 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 2: can find like over six and a half minus one forty, 677 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 2: I project them in like seven to three. Not enough 678 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 2: to play it. There's a lot of coin flip games 679 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 2: with the win totals in the ACC, so I have 680 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 2: to really show value and really have a strong opinion. 681 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 2: And as we talked to Bud, who knows Florida State 682 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 2: really well, he says, that's about right. That game against 683 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 2: LSU week one will go a long way in determining 684 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 2: that win total. I would imagine not an easy schedule. 685 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 2: Calling you, you are looking for Florida State, who went 686 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 2: up against Kelly and took them to overtime. Now Kelly's 687 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 2: at LSU, and also in week one we'll take on 688 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 2: Florida State. You like Florida State in that game plus three. 689 00:29:59,280 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 3: I do. 690 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: I took him at plus seven when it opened way 691 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 1: early back in March. I took him again at plus three. 692 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: I think you're going to play this through the pick 693 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 1: it's down to two and a half. I think it's 694 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 1: going to go that way, and I wouldn't be surprised 695 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: at Florida State is a favorite of going in and 696 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: like Bud said, it should be you know, two massive, 697 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: mountain sized defensive lines trying to control the game. But 698 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: you know, this is the best returning numbers that Mike 699 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 1: Norbel's had a returning seventy nine percent on offense and 700 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: ninety five percent on defense. Nearly all the receiving yards 701 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: are coming back, all the defensive tackles are mostly coming back. 702 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: The PBUs all return The defense was really successful last year, 703 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 1: and now Adam Fuller and Randy Shannel are going to 704 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: try to reproduce top thirty ranks and success rate and 705 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: rush explosiveness, tackling, finishing drives have a day. The defense 706 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: is there, and you know, I got to talk to 707 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: Jamie Robinson at ACC media days. He's one of the 708 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: best slot coverage defenders and he has just an immaculate 709 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: tackling grade, just sixteen misses in his entire career dating 710 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: back to South Carolina, and the pass rush, you know, 711 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: ended forty third in the nation. You know, players like 712 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: Robert Cooper and the interior who who's an elite run stopper, 713 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 1: but he falls off a bit in the pass rush, 714 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: so they've got to get more pressure on the quarterback. 715 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 1: We'll see what they can do against the LSU offensive line. 716 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: Kenny Dillingham has left his offensive coordinator. Some people would 717 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 1: argue that that's not really that big of a loss, 718 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: but bringing in Alex Atkins, who's been working with the 719 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: offensive line for a couple of years, you can expect 720 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: more Jordan Travis quarterback runs. I think we're in for 721 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 1: more explosive plays, more highlights. The question with Travis is 722 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: can you keep the chains movie, can you have any 723 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: kind of success rate not just rely on the big play. 724 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: Seventy eight percent of the offensive line snaps come back, 725 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 1: so that's a good thing. That's a good thing for 726 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 1: continuity and some of the portal assistant Norbel he brought in, 727 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: plus eleven players gained and Florida State was one of 728 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: the more explosive teams on offense. So we'll see what 729 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: they can do on passing downs. We'll see what they 730 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: can do about getting first downs. You know, the offensive 731 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 1: line is still a work in progress. I mean they 732 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: were working from scratch about three years ago. During the 733 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: Taggart era last year they finished eighty second. Stuff, right, 734 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: that's got to improve one hundred and four teenth than 735 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 1: havoc allowed. Like we just talked with Bud about the 736 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: LSU game about the defensive lines. Controlling FSU's offensive line 737 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: was one hundred and fourteenth and have it allowed. That 738 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: has got to get cleaned up. But twenty seven then 739 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 1: explosive play rates, So that's what you give a Florida State. 740 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: And you know they get a warm up with Duquine 741 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: in week zero before taking on LSU, So all eyes 742 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 1: are going to be on that. See how the trench 743 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: works out. As you know, the skill positions may get 744 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: the day off, they may be pulled out after a 745 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 1: few scores. I think the trench is going to be 746 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 1: important watching that game, but you know, we'll see. So yeah, definitely, 747 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: I'm I like the Florida State over. But for them, 748 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: I mean, my projection is around seven and a half. 749 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 1: But to get that over, you're gonna have to beat LSU. 750 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 1: So might as well just go ahead and call it good. 751 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 1: Take my points with Florida State there in the first game, 752 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: and if they don't win that game, they have a 753 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 1: really tough shot of going over that win total. 754 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, then you're right away. You're at Louisville the next week. 755 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 2: But they were much better with Jordan Travis last week 756 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 2: for reference. Yeah, I project them seven point four wins. 757 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 2: I would lean over. There's probably gonna be opportunities just 758 00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 2: throughout the year. I mean either Atville and the LSU 759 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 2: probably going to be decided in the first three weeks. 760 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 2: I have them double did your favorite in five games, 761 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 2: underdog in five games, never a big underdog, and then 762 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 2: minus seven and two other ones. Their defense doesn't their 763 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 2: play two really good defensive ends, but they're loaded up front. 764 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 2: They did ranked top ten in red Zoe d Lesher 765 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 2: and they forced twenty takeaways. So we'll see if they 766 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 2: can repeat some of the good things we saw from 767 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 2: the defense. But I think they're heading the right direction. 768 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 2: They brought in some good transfers on the offensive line, 769 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 2: and I think that unit, which has been just a 770 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 2: nightmare for I say, four straight losing seasons of Florida 771 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 2: say I can't, I'm saying that in my lifetime, But 772 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 2: I think the offensive line is finally headed in the 773 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 2: right direction. That's been a major part of their downfall 774 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 2: over the past four seasons. Elsewhere in the ACC Atlantic 775 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 2: we talked about Ville. We lean over, but there's going 776 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 2: to be opportunities just to bet them on a game. 777 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 2: The game basis QUS clean under there. I don't think 778 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 2: the offensive coordinator is a fit, and I think that 779 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 2: team has way more questions than answers. The two teams 780 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 2: that are LEFT Wake Forest and BC Wake Forest. Obviously 781 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 2: they both have NFL prospects at quarterback, wake Forest with 782 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 2: Sam Hartman back BC with Phil Jerkovic, Wake Forest sitting 783 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 2: at over eight and a half wins plus one ten, 784 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 2: BC over six and a half plus one twenty. Any 785 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 2: feel on either of those, I'll tell you just my 786 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:18,879 Speaker 2: quick thoughts so that I don't know how much Phil 787 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 2: Jerkovic I think if their new offense coordinator will help, 788 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,280 Speaker 2: and I don't know how much Phil jerk Jerkvich's injured 789 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 2: last year impacted his performance. And then I trust Halflee 790 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 2: to eventually fix the D. There are questions on that defense, 791 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 2: but I really trusted him, so it's probably a pass 792 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 2: for me. And it's same with Wake. I project Wake. 793 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 2: I show a little bit of value on the under 794 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 2: with Wake, but I like the defensive coordinator higher in 795 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 2: Lambert and I have just so much respect for Hartman, 796 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 2: and then Clawson usually just finds way to overperform my projection. 797 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 2: So lean under there and uh so those are both 798 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 2: passes for me. I think you'd liked the under in 799 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 2: both right under and. 800 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 1: Both bet them both. So Boston College under six and 801 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 1: a half projected at four point eight. Jeff McNulty is 802 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,720 Speaker 1: the new offensive coordinator. If that name doesn't ring familiar, 803 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,720 Speaker 1: he was the offensive coordinator at Rutgers in twenty nineteen. 804 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 1: He had a fifty seven percent rush rate as a coordinator, 805 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 1: and he ran a lot of eleven. So the question is, 806 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 1: you know he's going to run play action a lot. 807 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 1: He loves play action. So will the running backs part 808 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 1: Pat Garwoll and Alex Singfield running back. Are they going 809 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,359 Speaker 1: to be able to fool defenses enough to give Phil 810 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,800 Speaker 1: Jakovic enough time to run that play action? The defense 811 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,760 Speaker 1: is getting better, you can see Jeff Hampley's Jeff Hafley's 812 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 1: stamp coming on the team sixth and tackling seventeenth in 813 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 1: defensive finishing drives the problem. They can't produce a pass rush, 814 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 1: They can't generate any havoc. And you know, speaking of 815 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 1: fild Jakovic. Last year he only had fifty percent of 816 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 1: his grip when he came back from an injury, so 817 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 1: you know they're going to have to deal with that. 818 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 1: They only had four portal players taken. But wide receiver 819 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 1: Z Flowers does return, and he was eighteenth in the 820 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 1: nation and average depth of target, so you know they 821 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 1: I think it's just going to be more of the same, 822 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 1: and I don't think the more of the same means 823 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 1: that that team is seven wins. The offensive line returns 824 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,720 Speaker 1: less than fifty percent of their snaps from last season 825 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 1: and they were one hundred and thirteenth in pressure allowed. 826 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,320 Speaker 1: So I can't get over the hump with Boston College 827 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: when you return half your offensive line and last year's 828 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 1: offensive line was one hundred and thirteenth in pressure allowed. 829 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:22,439 Speaker 1: So I'm out plenty of shut down you know, front 830 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: sevens on this schedule to shut down the rushing attack. Clemson, 831 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:29,840 Speaker 1: Notre Dame, FSU, NC State. I don't like BC's chances 832 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 1: of getting anything going against those teams, so I'm gonna 833 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,720 Speaker 1: take the under there and then real quick on Wake Forest. 834 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 1: You know, just there's gonna be a pullback on this 835 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 1: offense and Jaquari Robinson. Roberson did so much with his 836 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 1: one hundred and twelve targets. He's out of there and 837 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 1: now at Perry is back, and I'm telling you they 838 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,800 Speaker 1: highlights that you can pull up on YouTube and Twitter 839 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:51,280 Speaker 1: of at Perry. They're fantastic. But what people don't realize 840 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 1: is he ranked one hundred and thirty third last year 841 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,880 Speaker 1: and eleven percent of his targets being dropped. That's a 842 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 1: lot of drops for a guy that's about to take 843 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,840 Speaker 1: on number one duties on every down, and not just 844 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 1: as like a you know, the guy that Hartman's looking 845 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 1: for on third down. Can't say anything bad about Sam 846 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 1: Hartman a two to one ratio and big time throws 847 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 1: versus turnover worthy plays, you know, but his uncatchable pass 848 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 1: rate dipped to thirty ninth of all quarterbacks and the 849 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 1: Power five, and that was a little bit shocking to me. 850 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 1: So he has the deepest average depth of target in 851 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 1: the nation, So maybe that plays a little bit of 852 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 1: the factor into it. And you're right. Brad Lambert is 853 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,880 Speaker 1: a great defensive coordinator. He was at Charlotte for a 854 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 1: number of years. His defense is always ranked high in 855 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 1: HAVOC Top forty and havoc. He goes to Purdue, you know, 856 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 1: who only had one guy in the defensive line that 857 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 1: we've loved to back the last couple of years. He 858 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,760 Speaker 1: changes the whole look of that of that defense thirty 859 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 1: fifth and finishing drives and havoc, and before that they 860 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 1: were outside the top seventy five. So I do believe 861 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 1: Brad Lambert can do better here. But this is not 862 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,799 Speaker 1: going to be as flashy of an offense as we're 863 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 1: used to. And after watching what Army did on offense 864 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 1: last year and some of these other teams on offense, 865 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 1: you know, Brad Lambert's got his work cutout on defense. 866 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,439 Speaker 1: So I think eight is the more proper number. Under 867 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 1: eight and a half on wake Forest is the way 868 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:02,239 Speaker 1: to go. 869 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 2: All right, Let's move on to the ACC Coastal Division. 870 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,319 Speaker 2: Miami has done a plus one ten favorite to win 871 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 2: the division Pit plus two eighty five Buva plus five 872 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,839 Speaker 2: seventy five un C plus six fifty ou Tech plus 873 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 2: eight fifty the Georgia Tech, who cares thirty three to one. 874 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 2: I don't even know where Duke is. Duke, by the way, 875 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 2: who cares? We're not gonna talk about a new coach 876 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 2: quarterback battle. I think you can get like under three 877 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 2: and a half minus one eighty in order to go over. 878 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,759 Speaker 2: Probably gonna have to win at Kansas. It's probably the 879 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,359 Speaker 2: game it comes down to. They have some winnable non 880 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 2: conference games. But we're not talking about duke football here. 881 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 2: We've already spent to which I talk abou Kansas the 882 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 2: other day. So I'll tell you with I'm all in 883 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 2: on Miami to win. I have win the division, So 884 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,320 Speaker 2: I'm I think you're gonna try to sell sell me 885 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,879 Speaker 2: on Pitt. I hate Pitt this year. I have Pit 886 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 2: under eight and a half. I also found Miami plus 887 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,479 Speaker 2: one sixty to win the division. It's down the plus 888 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 2: one ten. Ideally you could try to find at some books, 889 00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 2: try to find plus one thirty or better. But I 890 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 2: have under eight and a half minus one ten and 891 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 2: I have Miami to win the division. I'm still I 892 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 2: just can't figure out what Clemson's going to be and 893 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,799 Speaker 2: I would rather just go with the head to head 894 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 2: because I'm lower on Pit, I hate the offensive coordinator higher. 895 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,240 Speaker 2: I think they're just going to turn in back into nardoozy, 896 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,440 Speaker 2: just boring, and they're going to be in a lot 897 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:21,280 Speaker 2: more closer games than they might anticipate with their style, 898 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,360 Speaker 2: and they're going to be in lower scoring games. And 899 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:28,280 Speaker 2: by the way, they go to Miami, which will probably 900 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,400 Speaker 2: go a long way in deciding the division in the 901 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:35,439 Speaker 2: regular season finale. I love the Miami. I love Van Dyke. 902 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,319 Speaker 2: I think the offense will be great. The offensive line 903 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 2: is improving. You can bring a crystal ball there. You 904 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,800 Speaker 2: can expect that offensive line bump. The offense was I 905 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 2: think they averaged thirty seven points in the nine games 906 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,240 Speaker 2: at Van Dyke started last year. That wasn't the issue. 907 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,759 Speaker 2: They also got extremely unlucky in close games last year 908 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 2: easily could have won ten games. So I think that 909 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 2: the coaching higher Crystal coming in steal a defensive coordinator, 910 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,239 Speaker 2: I think is going to do wonders because look the 911 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,759 Speaker 2: problem last year. What was the problem? Discipline on defense, right, 912 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 2: tackling penalties, Those are fixable things quickly, right. It's not 913 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,400 Speaker 2: a lack of talent. So I think you can expect 914 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 2: a bump on the defensive And so yeah, I don't 915 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 2: like anything that Pitt is doing. The defense should be 916 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 2: solid as always, especially up front. But you lose Picket, 917 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 2: you lose Addison which is just a huge loss. And 918 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 2: I think that the losing Whipple is just it's gonna hurt. 919 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:34,879 Speaker 2: And I think that they're gonna get a lot less 920 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 2: efficient on offense. So I'm all in in Miami to 921 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:42,879 Speaker 2: win the division at plus money and pit under eight 922 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 2: and a half wins. If you look at their schedule, 923 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:47,960 Speaker 2: I think it really comes out of can they go 924 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 2: five hundred against like at Louisville, at UNC, at Miami, 925 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 2: at Virginia home against Tennessee and votdeck. I will bet 926 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 2: that they do not, and that's assuming they take care 927 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,360 Speaker 2: of business in there are other six games, and like 928 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 2: I said, I could see them drop in the game 929 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 2: and Nardoozy Classic when they're just going to get extremely 930 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 2: run happy and uh, this pass offense I think is 931 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:12,279 Speaker 2: going to take a big step back. So I'm not 932 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,759 Speaker 2: a big Slovas guy. So that's why I like to 933 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 2: win the division and my favorite win total is PIT under. 934 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,879 Speaker 2: In addition to Georgia Tech under I'll keep it brief 935 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,919 Speaker 2: with Georgia Tech Georgia Tech under three and a half 936 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 2: minus one tenants. I think it's it's a little more 937 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 2: juice house, but I bet by the way, I actually 938 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,400 Speaker 2: worked dot combinection work up. I'll have details for all 939 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 2: my win totals. This team was decimated by the portal. 940 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,920 Speaker 2: They only return six total starters. That's the lowest in 941 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 2: the ACC. I am not buying with Jeff Collins is selling. 942 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:46,800 Speaker 2: I wanted to buy, and it was going to be 943 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,920 Speaker 2: a tough task. Transitioning from the triple option had a 944 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 2: pandemic thrown in there. 945 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 1: Right. We love him because he loves the wafflee. 946 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but I've not been impressed with the end 947 00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 2: game decisions. Everything to be a mess. They lose Gibbs 948 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,920 Speaker 2: to Alabama too, which is just a massive loss. Defense 949 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 2: only returns two starters transitioning to a four man front, 950 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:12,400 Speaker 2: lose three starters in the secondary. It's massive roster turnover. 951 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 2: I think Collins might not make it through the year. 952 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,719 Speaker 2: You have schematic changes on both endsday bringing an off 953 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,800 Speaker 2: new offensive Winter Chiplong, who I hate. He was awful 954 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 2: at tu Lane last year. I don't like anything about 955 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 2: the scene. And you look at their schedule, arguably the 956 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,920 Speaker 2: hardest in the nation. They have three winnable games at home. 957 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 2: In my opinion, that's it. Their win totals three and 958 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:34,360 Speaker 2: a half that's it against Virginia, Duke and the Western 959 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 2: carol Western Carolina. Keep in mind, this is the Georgia 960 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 2: Tech team. The loss to Stamford a triple option in Citadel, 961 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,440 Speaker 2: excuse me, triple option A Cimadel team still wins a 962 00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:46,239 Speaker 2: triple option at home in the Collins Era. But Duke, 963 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,440 Speaker 2: can they beat Duke Virginia in Western Carolina at home 964 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:53,080 Speaker 2: to get the three wins? I don't know. Maybe they'll 965 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,440 Speaker 2: probably beat Duke in Western Carolina. I'll have them. I 966 00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,279 Speaker 2: have them as a dog against Virginia, but if they 967 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,360 Speaker 2: could sweet dose to get the three, they got to 968 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,920 Speaker 2: get one more to go over Clemson or three touchdown 969 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:08,239 Speaker 2: underdog's in Atlanta, oh Miss at UCF at pitt at 970 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:12,640 Speaker 2: Florida State at VA Tech, Miami at UNC at Georgia. 971 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 2: Where's the win? So I'll pay to make them win 972 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,879 Speaker 2: their with beat Virginia, win the other two winnable games, 973 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:22,040 Speaker 2: and then find an upset in one of those games. 974 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:23,759 Speaker 2: I have them a double digit underdrug in all nine 975 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:27,040 Speaker 2: of those games. So I went under three and a half. 976 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:28,919 Speaker 2: I think this could be a disaster for Georgia Tech 977 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,880 Speaker 2: and they might be starting over again. So acc Coastal 978 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,240 Speaker 2: for me is where all my favorite bets on the ACC. 979 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,520 Speaker 2: Pitt under eight and a half wins Georgia Tech under 980 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 2: three and a half, and then Miami to win the Coastal. 981 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:49,000 Speaker 2: I will we'll get to UNC and VO Tech, but 982 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:52,399 Speaker 2: I'll let you We'll start with Pitt. You bet Pitt 983 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,120 Speaker 2: to win the ACC. Let me get your thoughts on 984 00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:56,200 Speaker 2: the fighting their doozies. 985 00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love Pitt to win the ACC. I know 986 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,759 Speaker 1: I said the NC State, but that is my pick 987 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,439 Speaker 1: to be the championship game here is NC State versus Pitt. 988 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:08,080 Speaker 1: The loss of Whipple is interesting depends on the way 989 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,480 Speaker 1: you look at it. Right, they were running an extremely 990 00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,000 Speaker 1: high tempo with Kenny Pickett last year, something that for 991 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 1: Pat Nardoozy is not comfortable with whatsoever it worked. You 992 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:18,600 Speaker 1: have to keep letting Whipple go when he's got an 993 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,279 Speaker 1: offense that's working. So keep your eyes on Nebraska, where 994 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,040 Speaker 1: Scott Frost is getting up in front of the media 995 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,800 Speaker 1: every day this week and saying Whips is in control. 996 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:27,640 Speaker 1: Whips is in control, and I feel like a lot 997 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 1: of that was going on out of Pitt last year. Well, 998 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,400 Speaker 1: Whipple moves on, He's able to go and pick out 999 00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:38,000 Speaker 1: his own coordinator, and he immediately targets Frank Signetti over 1000 00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,960 Speaker 1: at Boston College. Coming in there fulfilled Drakovic after a 1001 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,680 Speaker 1: number of years where Signetti was in the NFL as 1002 00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,200 Speaker 1: a quarterbacks coach, and he specifically wanted him to come 1003 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 1: in and work with Slovas. But I think the writing 1004 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,640 Speaker 1: is on the wall, or at least it was said 1005 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,640 Speaker 1: a billion times at ACC media days. We are going 1006 00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:01,440 Speaker 1: to be a very slow, bruising rushing off. There is 1007 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,640 Speaker 1: no plans for Slovis to be airing this thing out 1008 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 1: on first and second down. I think it's going to 1009 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,640 Speaker 1: be a completely different scheme from him. According to Nardoozy, 1010 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,200 Speaker 1: he's picking it up and Slovas is going to be 1011 00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:13,880 Speaker 1: just fine in this offense, especially because he's not going 1012 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:15,560 Speaker 1: to be dependent on to save them all the time. 1013 00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,440 Speaker 2: He's picking up one handing the ball off. 1014 00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think the ball off well, that 1015 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,240 Speaker 1: comes to play action pass once you're going to establish 1016 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,000 Speaker 1: a little bit of a ground game. But you know, 1017 00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,880 Speaker 1: as Junior recorded fifty four touchdowns to twenty one interceptions 1018 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,960 Speaker 1: as a Trojan, he deflated last year. He had a 1019 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,880 Speaker 1: nearly even distribution of big time throws a turnover worthy plays. 1020 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,319 Speaker 1: But then again, USC was a bit of a mess 1021 00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,120 Speaker 1: last year, so maybe give a pass on that. But 1022 00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,000 Speaker 1: there's no doubt they're going to be handing off the ball. 1023 00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,200 Speaker 1: And Pitt returns three running backs with one hundred rushing 1024 00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,839 Speaker 1: attempt from last season Israel Aban Conda, of Vincent Davis, 1025 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:48,880 Speaker 1: Rodney Hammon. They're all going to run behind an offensive 1026 00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:52,440 Speaker 1: line that returns every starter. I mean, Pitt, I have 1027 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,320 Speaker 1: to get into how great this defense is going to be. 1028 00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 1: It's a nardoozy defense. They are going to swarm. They 1029 00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:01,480 Speaker 1: are going to you know, hit every every single advance five. 1030 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,600 Speaker 2: Tackle tackles for lost. So yeah, the defensive line is 1031 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,320 Speaker 2: two pros on it. Yeah, I mean yeah, their defense 1032 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,480 Speaker 2: is going to be good. They'll give up big plays. 1033 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,400 Speaker 2: They play aggressive quarters defense on the outside. Yeah, their 1034 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:13,919 Speaker 2: defense is gonna be good. But they're then they're they're 1035 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:15,920 Speaker 2: gonna be playing like twenty to seventeen games every. 1036 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,160 Speaker 1: Week, right they are, And I and I trust that 1037 00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:19,400 Speaker 1: this defense is going to be able to do what 1038 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,879 Speaker 1: they always do. Like you usually can't count on having 1039 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,239 Speaker 1: to turn into scores, but Pitt has a way of 1040 00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,360 Speaker 1: doing it servasier Dennis I know, is going to be 1041 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,239 Speaker 1: named to our All American team coming up here, the 1042 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,239 Speaker 1: Action Network All American Team that we're gonna put out. 1043 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:32,400 Speaker 1: Uh And I just there's no drop off of this 1044 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,440 Speaker 1: Pitt defense whatsoever. And it was good enough to get 1045 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,719 Speaker 1: them there last year. A big difference between you and me, 1046 00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:40,040 Speaker 1: and I'll pivot into Miami. Pitt doesn't play Clemson and 1047 00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,080 Speaker 1: Miami does, So you know that that is certainly one 1048 00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,480 Speaker 1: thing to take into account when you look at strength 1049 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,600 Speaker 1: of schedule, what these two teams have to go up with, 1050 00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,120 Speaker 1: and that is something that Pitt has, you know, a 1051 00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,400 Speaker 1: clear example of, Like you know, Pitt's average strength of 1052 00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,759 Speaker 1: sp plus defenses is seventieth as to where Miami's is 1053 00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:00,399 Speaker 1: fifty nine. So you know, there's definitely a tougher slate 1054 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,080 Speaker 1: here for Miami to get through than there is for 1055 00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,040 Speaker 1: Pitt Miami. There's just things I'm not comfortable with. I 1056 00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,440 Speaker 1: don't feel as if Crystal Ball likes his two guards 1057 00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,239 Speaker 1: in his center. Tyler Van Dyke told me, you know, 1058 00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,000 Speaker 1: I asked him, I said, what do you see out 1059 00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:14,920 Speaker 1: of this offense? It's going to be different than last year. 1060 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:16,880 Speaker 1: He said that crystal Ball is going to use a 1061 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,640 Speaker 1: lot of pulling guards, a pulling center, and they're undersized 1062 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:22,600 Speaker 1: and they're not you know what he wants. On the 1063 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,440 Speaker 1: offensive line. The tackles are fine, the tackles are exactly 1064 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,520 Speaker 1: fit the crystal ball mold. But it sounds like instead 1065 00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,920 Speaker 1: of you know, all five offensive lines sitting there and 1066 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,279 Speaker 1: defending Tyler Van Dyke, there's gonna be a lot of 1067 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:34,800 Speaker 1: shifting the pocket. There's going to be a lot of 1068 00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,120 Speaker 1: polls here and that you know, I don't think if 1069 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,680 Speaker 1: Bethune Cookman gets one pressure on Miami in the first week, 1070 00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,680 Speaker 1: that'll be shocking watch for Southern miss But then I 1071 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,400 Speaker 1: would not back Miami against Texas A and m whatsoever. 1072 00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:48,759 Speaker 1: So keep your eyes on the interior part of the 1073 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:52,960 Speaker 1: Miami offensive line and then the defense. Kevin Steele, he 1074 00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,719 Speaker 1: has really really got his work cutout for him here. 1075 00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,160 Speaker 1: We're talking about, you know, a team that struggled with 1076 00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:03,480 Speaker 1: everything from tackling to finishing drives. Uh, Miami was just 1077 00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,080 Speaker 1: completely fall off a map under the Manny Diaz era. 1078 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:10,880 Speaker 1: They trash the they trashed the turnover chain. As Brett 1079 00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:12,520 Speaker 1: you know, is able to crack the news on that. 1080 00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:14,759 Speaker 1: And it looks like Mario christ Ball is ready to 1081 00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:16,640 Speaker 1: turn a page, but I'm not sure this is the 1082 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:18,920 Speaker 1: team that he wants. But the good news is the 1083 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,600 Speaker 1: season ends with Pitt and Miami. We can settle it. 1084 00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:23,080 Speaker 1: Then you and I have some turkey and then we'll 1085 00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,719 Speaker 1: settle our beef on on who's gonna Who's gonna win 1086 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:26,480 Speaker 1: this coastal here? 1087 00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,640 Speaker 2: You know Pitt does, Pete doesn't have clumps somebody. Even 1088 00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,080 Speaker 2: if the Miami loses the Clemson and there end up 1089 00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:34,960 Speaker 2: being tied, like it will come down to that game 1090 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:37,640 Speaker 2: at Miami who I will have over a touch I 1091 00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:41,080 Speaker 2: have over a touchdown favorite of that game. And he 1092 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,320 Speaker 2: also has to go to Ville and to u n 1093 00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,000 Speaker 2: C back to back weeks, both teams off of a bye. 1094 00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,400 Speaker 2: That's not gonna be an easy stretch. They do have 1095 00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,239 Speaker 2: a lot all their winnable games are at home, which 1096 00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:54,560 Speaker 2: is why I don't like about a winter total and 1097 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,000 Speaker 2: look Pitt last year. I also think that the loss 1098 00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,520 Speaker 2: of Breda Marion is big, but their wide receiver coaches 1099 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,800 Speaker 2: down a passing the coordinator at Texas. But keep in 1100 00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,520 Speaker 2: mind that before last year with Whippull, they finally were 1101 00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:07,759 Speaker 2: throwing the ball with a quarterback who got draft in 1102 00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,719 Speaker 2: the first round with the Blittnikoff winner who now is gone. 1103 00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:12,520 Speaker 2: It was the first time they won more than eight 1104 00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:17,960 Speaker 2: games in eleven years. So I think that there's you're 1105 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,880 Speaker 2: going to see a couple hit head scratching losses AKA 1106 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:26,160 Speaker 2: to Western Michigan at home last year, and News he's. 1107 00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:27,960 Speaker 1: Able to upset the top five team every time, he's 1108 00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:29,200 Speaker 1: able to lose to a MAC team. 1109 00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:33,799 Speaker 2: So yeah, they don't play Clempson, so that's a that's 1110 00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,600 Speaker 2: a win off the board. And then I just wouldn't 1111 00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,000 Speaker 2: worry about as a rebuttal for you because we're kind 1112 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,440 Speaker 2: of in agreement with the agency Atlantic, But yeah, I 1113 00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:43,600 Speaker 2: not with the Coast. I mean Miami, I wouldn't. I 1114 00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:45,759 Speaker 2: just not worried about a crystal ball offensive line. And 1115 00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,960 Speaker 2: then Kevin Steele, especially as a linebacker linebacker, and that's 1116 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:53,000 Speaker 2: where Miami really struggled last year, and that in discipline 1117 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,840 Speaker 2: and defense. I think just the more serious nature of 1118 00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,160 Speaker 2: the staff and Steele's expertise at the linebacker position. There's 1119 00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:04,560 Speaker 2: just too much talent for not to improve. But yeah, yeah, 1120 00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:05,640 Speaker 2: did you have anything else to add. 1121 00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's one other team in the Coast. I want 1122 00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,040 Speaker 1: to talk about, and that is that my numbers are 1123 00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,440 Speaker 1: so much higher on Virginia Tech than everybody else. So 1124 00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,640 Speaker 1: I double tricked, I double and triple checked my numbers 1125 00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:17,560 Speaker 1: on Virginia Tech to figure out what's going on here. 1126 00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I am a full game and a half 1127 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,680 Speaker 1: higher than what the market is at, and nobody has 1128 00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,120 Speaker 1: any love for Virginia Tech. I went to ACC media days. 1129 00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,880 Speaker 1: I think I shook everybody's hand. Instead of introducing myself, 1130 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,200 Speaker 1: I just asked everybody what they think of Virginia Tech. 1131 00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:32,840 Speaker 1: I'm going back to how I build a pr This 1132 00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:36,080 Speaker 1: team caught plus seven points for me. For Tarp, eighty 1133 00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:39,240 Speaker 1: percent of the defense numbers come back from PBu tackles 1134 00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:41,920 Speaker 1: and pressures. The offense is considered to have one hundred 1135 00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,439 Speaker 1: percent of its passing yards back because quarterback Grant Wells 1136 00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,560 Speaker 1: transfers in from Marshall. So that's how they got a 1137 00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,560 Speaker 1: seven point bump there. Second order win total was neutral. 1138 00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,239 Speaker 1: I even docked Virginia Tech a couple points for the 1139 00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,960 Speaker 1: new coaching game coming in, even though I like Brent Pye. 1140 00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:58,239 Speaker 1: Brent Prye, his offensive coordinator, Tyler Bowen, was a co 1141 00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,600 Speaker 1: coordinator and tight end coach of penste so they know 1142 00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,920 Speaker 1: each other from there. Essentially, you know that whole staff 1143 00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,319 Speaker 1: was wiped out when Franklin tapped Mike Gearris such as 1144 00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,160 Speaker 1: Covin and call the offense at Penn State. But you know, 1145 00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,839 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the power ratings. I make Virginia Tech 1146 00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:15,600 Speaker 1: plus twenty seven against Alabama in a hypothetical game. That 1147 00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,840 Speaker 1: sounds right. I make Virginia Tech plus fifteen against Clemson 1148 00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:22,200 Speaker 1: in a hypothetical game. So my pr is right. And 1149 00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:25,360 Speaker 1: this flat out just comes out to strength of schedule. 1150 00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,279 Speaker 1: This is the second easiest schedule in the ACC when 1151 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:32,880 Speaker 1: it comes to average SP plus defenses Old Dominion, Wafford Liberty, 1152 00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,360 Speaker 1: and then West Virginia Transfer City. We'll see what they 1153 00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:36,960 Speaker 1: got in the back end is in their non con 1154 00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:41,440 Speaker 1: You look at Clemsonville, Florida State from the Atlantic, the 1155 00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:45,520 Speaker 1: ACC schedule starts with BC and North Carolina. Those are 1156 00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,440 Speaker 1: not defensive fronts that I'm scared of. It's not a 1157 00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,200 Speaker 1: murderer's row of defenses. Really. The only teams I think 1158 00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,240 Speaker 1: that they're absolutely going to get plowed by is Clemson, 1159 00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:56,920 Speaker 1: Louisville and Florida State. Everything else, Grant Will should be fine, 1160 00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:00,000 Speaker 1: they return their top four tacklers on the defense. Bain 1161 00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,840 Speaker 1: probably is a great defensive coordinator. So I don't understand it. 1162 00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:06,360 Speaker 1: My power ratings, right, I just don't get it. So 1163 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,239 Speaker 1: I'm taking the over on these guys. I'm gonna trust 1164 00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,759 Speaker 1: my numbers. But I have no friends in this room 1165 00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:11,440 Speaker 1: that I'm standing in. 1166 00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't agree with you here. I mean, look, 1167 00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:16,200 Speaker 2: I have some questions on the offensive line. They did 1168 00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,719 Speaker 2: bring in a good offensive line coach. It's another defensive change. 1169 00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,680 Speaker 2: I mean it's their third DC and the last four 1170 00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:24,080 Speaker 2: years the moving to like a more four to three 1171 00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,200 Speaker 2: traditional looks, So we'll see what that happens. I also 1172 00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,400 Speaker 2: haven't got a I think the numbers about right personally. 1173 00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:28,640 Speaker 1: Now. 1174 00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:30,279 Speaker 2: They have an easy first four games in an easy 1175 00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,080 Speaker 2: last four. I mean they closed the Georgia Tech at 1176 00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,600 Speaker 2: Duke at Liberty and then home against UVA. They start 1177 00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,759 Speaker 2: with that ODU BC at home, both Wafford at home, 1178 00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,279 Speaker 2: West Virginia at home. Technically could go eight. 1179 00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:41,080 Speaker 5: No in those games. 1180 00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:42,920 Speaker 2: Can they get to six and two in those eight? 1181 00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,480 Speaker 2: If they do, then they're gonna go over. So it's 1182 00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,480 Speaker 2: all about the start. I mean, the middle is tough 1183 00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,319 Speaker 2: to go at U andc apt Pitt Miami at home 1184 00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,839 Speaker 2: at NC State. That's why I'm staying. I wouldn't bet 1185 00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:53,719 Speaker 2: the under because of this schedule, but there's a lot 1186 00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:55,040 Speaker 2: of change. I don't even if well is gonna win 1187 00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:56,759 Speaker 2: the position. I'm not of Grant Well's guy either. I mean, 1188 00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:00,040 Speaker 2: he'd lost the script last year again with Marshall, and 1189 00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,200 Speaker 2: I don't know what happened because he had potential. And 1190 00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,400 Speaker 2: maybe Jason Brown wins a job. There's technically a quarterback competition, 1191 00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,320 Speaker 2: but I need to see something from Wells before I 1192 00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:10,480 Speaker 2: would go over. But the schedule is certainly conducive to 1193 00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:12,839 Speaker 2: going over. I do have to mention the sech team 1194 00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:14,279 Speaker 2: since I didn't really talk I haven't talked about him 1195 00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,600 Speaker 2: enough this episode. They weren't top ten special teams in 1196 00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,400 Speaker 2: know last year. They lose their kicker, long snapper, and 1197 00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,640 Speaker 2: first team ACC punt returner. They do have a great punter. 1198 00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,600 Speaker 2: These are only returning all ACC player. But you're buying 1199 00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:29,279 Speaker 2: what Brent Pry is selling, but you're selling what Mac 1200 00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:30,399 Speaker 2: Brown is selling. 1201 00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,560 Speaker 1: I'm selling Mac Brown all the way and I hate 1202 00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:34,120 Speaker 1: to do it. A lot of people love them in 1203 00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:37,440 Speaker 1: the coaching industry. I know, I know our friends sources 1204 00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:41,440 Speaker 1: the former TV camera maates there on esp and you know, 1205 00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,120 Speaker 1: I've seen the you know, I've seen Mac Brown in 1206 00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,280 Speaker 1: action now live up close and in person. I understand 1207 00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:48,440 Speaker 1: why everybody likes him. I just don't agree with some 1208 00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,320 Speaker 1: of these moves, especially on defense. I listen when I 1209 00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,319 Speaker 1: have to do a Google search with multiple tabs figure 1210 00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,920 Speaker 1: out who the damn defensive coordinator is. Between Charlton Warren 1211 00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,720 Speaker 1: coming in from Indiana, Tommy Thigping, and an internal promotion. 1212 00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:00,840 Speaker 1: Oh hey, Jeane Chiseck, he's going to join. I have 1213 00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:02,960 Speaker 1: no clue who's calling plays. I must have spend thirty 1214 00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:04,360 Speaker 1: minutes trying to figure out who's going to call the 1215 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,799 Speaker 1: plays here. But you know, there's it seems like Jay 1216 00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,640 Speaker 1: Bateman was the hot defensive coordinator when he got to 1217 00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:12,799 Speaker 1: come in. He has one bad year and then he's 1218 00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:14,880 Speaker 1: out the door. So I wasn't really comfortable with that. 1219 00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,440 Speaker 1: And then Josh Downs. You know, he is one of 1220 00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,839 Speaker 1: the huge best playmakers in all of college football. Three 1221 00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,800 Speaker 1: yards per route run close is what he've had posted 1222 00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:25,919 Speaker 1: last year. If you don't know what yards per route 1223 00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,960 Speaker 1: run is, it's how explosive are you when you were targeted, 1224 00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,880 Speaker 1: and anything over two is considered really good. Josh Down's 1225 00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:33,560 Speaker 1: one of the best in the nation by far, but 1226 00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,800 Speaker 1: we do have a quarterback battle, and you know, I 1227 00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:38,840 Speaker 1: think that we've been depleted a lot on some of 1228 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,279 Speaker 1: the weapons that we have, especially in the backfield. And 1229 00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:44,840 Speaker 1: this is not an easy non conference slate. I know 1230 00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:46,600 Speaker 1: people are going to look at to say, oh, it's 1231 00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:49,279 Speaker 1: the Sun Belt. It's fine, It's not just the Sun Belt. 1232 00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,520 Speaker 1: App State was certain for me in week one, but 1233 00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,520 Speaker 1: odds makers opened that thing at three down to two 1234 00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:56,000 Speaker 1: and a half. I mean, there's some love in the 1235 00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:58,399 Speaker 1: market for app State. And then after that trip to Boone, 1236 00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,000 Speaker 1: North Carolina keeps the Sun Belt World Tour going. They're 1237 00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,080 Speaker 1: gonna go on to play Georgia State, and I know 1238 00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:04,600 Speaker 1: the numbers say that that number is gonna be eight 1239 00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:07,520 Speaker 1: and a half, but Georgia State is stout. They're really good. 1240 00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:09,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, these are the games that North 1241 00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:11,480 Speaker 1: Carolina has to win to get over this win total. 1242 00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:13,200 Speaker 1: So I'm under seven and a half all the way. 1243 00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:15,719 Speaker 1: I mean, I've got it projected like around seven, I think, 1244 00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:19,280 Speaker 1: But now I am not on the North Carolina bus whatsoever. 1245 00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,680 Speaker 2: I'm I'm I projected right at seven point four to 1246 00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:24,279 Speaker 2: eight so in two over seven and a half plus 1247 00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:27,920 Speaker 2: one hundred. So nope, nothing for me. I do think that. 1248 00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,359 Speaker 2: I mean like part of me is saying, like, going 1249 00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:31,840 Speaker 2: into it, I was like, are we is this the 1250 00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:33,640 Speaker 2: time to buy North Carolina? I mean, look that their 1251 00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,640 Speaker 2: recruiting classes have been so good after they went from 1252 00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,880 Speaker 2: a top five team preseason top ten last year to 1253 00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,800 Speaker 2: under five hundred, So like, is are they now like 1254 00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:44,239 Speaker 2: body me on the market. But I'd make it right 1255 00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:46,200 Speaker 2: around seven and a half. They could start five and 1256 00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:47,919 Speaker 2: oh that's the key. It's gonna be their non conference games. 1257 00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:49,320 Speaker 2: As you said, they're tough. Georgia State's one of the 1258 00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:52,680 Speaker 2: most experiences of country up state. It's a true coin flip, 1259 00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,240 Speaker 2: and then home against Notre Dame where they'll be probably 1260 00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:55,879 Speaker 2: a small dog. 1261 00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:01,120 Speaker 1: So yeah, stuck. You're looking at this schedule other than Duke, 1262 00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,799 Speaker 1: Georgia Tech, and Florida A and M. To point out 1263 00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,080 Speaker 1: the wins. To me, it's really hard to find an 1264 00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:08,560 Speaker 1: extra What do you need? Five more after that? Find 1265 00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:09,360 Speaker 1: five more after that? 1266 00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have them as a dog or a coin 1267 00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:18,239 Speaker 2: flip in one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, 1268 00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:21,080 Speaker 2: eight games, and then that's not even including at Georgia State. 1269 00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:24,080 Speaker 2: But I do think that this defense might be the 1270 00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:25,759 Speaker 2: most improved in the nation. Doesn't mean they're gonna be 1271 00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:28,080 Speaker 2: great less they were like one hundred and tenth Like literally, 1272 00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,160 Speaker 2: they're one hundred and six epper rush one hundred and 1273 00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:33,400 Speaker 2: twentyeth in past dy. So they have like NFL talent. 1274 00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:35,800 Speaker 2: They're switching from to a three man front. They have 1275 00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:39,800 Speaker 2: NFL talent the secondary, you know, Grimes and Duck at corner. 1276 00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:44,400 Speaker 2: I like, you know, I like some of their linebackers, 1277 00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:46,920 Speaker 2: and I think just being more organized on the defense end. 1278 00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:48,560 Speaker 2: And we'll see if it translates. But the reason I 1279 00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:50,920 Speaker 2: bring it up, you know, there's a quarterback battle. We'll 1280 00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:52,719 Speaker 2: see if they're gonna be, like what kind of offense 1281 00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:54,879 Speaker 2: are gonna be? But they could be a sneaky under 1282 00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:59,680 Speaker 2: team early on in the season. All right, great stuff 1283 00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:04,520 Speaker 2: Colin from you and Bud and hopefully for myself. Before 1284 00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:06,960 Speaker 2: we get out of here, let's just sum up. You know, 1285 00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:08,480 Speaker 2: one or two of your favorite win totals. If you 1286 00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:10,120 Speaker 2: want to list a couple more, you can, and then 1287 00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:14,040 Speaker 2: you're picked to win the ACC. I'm going to say 1288 00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:18,080 Speaker 2: my favorite win totals Georgia Tech under three and a half. 1289 00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:19,400 Speaker 2: I'll make them fall off an upset and win the 1290 00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,160 Speaker 2: three games. It should just a mess. Still just not 1291 00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:24,680 Speaker 2: buying what Collins is selling. They crushed the transfer portal. 1292 00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:27,800 Speaker 2: I'm also going Pit under eight and a half. I 1293 00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:31,080 Speaker 2: think the offensive coordinator and offensive talent departing will catch 1294 00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,920 Speaker 2: up to Pitt this year, and then Miami to win 1295 00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,880 Speaker 2: their division. Try to find plus one thirty or better. 1296 00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,640 Speaker 2: I think the coaching changes are going to pay dividends 1297 00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:43,760 Speaker 2: this year, both on the offensive line and linebacker to 1298 00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,840 Speaker 2: the weakest areas. Defense should tackle better, more discipline, which 1299 00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,320 Speaker 2: is what this Miami team need. And the offense was 1300 00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,760 Speaker 2: just electric with Van Dyke, positive aggression candidate defense, which 1301 00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:54,640 Speaker 2: I think will improve as well as the offensive line. 1302 00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:56,480 Speaker 2: So those are the three that I'll mention them. I 1303 00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,320 Speaker 2: picked to win the ACC, I guess, so not to 1304 00:57:58,320 --> 00:57:59,920 Speaker 2: say it's Miami, what do you got? 1305 00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I have as many bets to win ACC 1306 00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,040 Speaker 1: as I do win totals, So let's start with win totals. 1307 00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:07,919 Speaker 1: I like over six and a half on Virginia Tech. 1308 00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:11,680 Speaker 1: No matter anyway, I can split this mathematically, I come 1309 00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:13,480 Speaker 1: out a game and a half over this six and 1310 00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:15,800 Speaker 1: a half number that's on the market right now. The 1311 00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:19,040 Speaker 1: power rating is there, it's just this strength of schedule 1312 00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:21,480 Speaker 1: is so low. Now, remember when you take win totals, 1313 00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,400 Speaker 1: you generally want to back a team that maybe has 1314 00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:26,840 Speaker 1: a first year coach, it's trying to reach a Bowl game. 1315 00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:29,360 Speaker 1: That would be a huge improvement for this Virginia Tech team. 1316 00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:31,240 Speaker 1: It'd be a good start to the Brent Priy and 1317 00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:33,320 Speaker 1: like Stucky said, if you look at their first four games, 1318 00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,560 Speaker 1: their last four games, they could go eight and know 1319 00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:38,800 Speaker 1: in those games six and two is pretty much projected. 1320 00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:40,440 Speaker 1: They just need one other there. So I like over 1321 00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:43,240 Speaker 1: on Virginia Tech. I think they're being heavily overlooked and 1322 00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:46,040 Speaker 1: they have such an easy schedule. I'm splitting up a 1323 00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:49,040 Speaker 1: unit bet on NC State to win the ACC. I'm 1324 00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,120 Speaker 1: splitting up a unit bet on another unit bet to 1325 00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:53,160 Speaker 1: on Pit to win it. I know Pitt goes down 1326 00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,400 Speaker 1: to Miami to end the season, but there is an 1327 00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:58,400 Speaker 1: easier schedule for Pitt here because they don't have Clemson 1328 00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:01,440 Speaker 1: like Miami does. Think problems with Miami in the trench. 1329 00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:03,720 Speaker 1: I have zero doubts about what's going on with Pitt 1330 00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:06,480 Speaker 1: in the trench. I know it's a complete tempo change. 1331 00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:08,400 Speaker 1: If you haven't seen that number come down against West 1332 00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:10,920 Speaker 1: Virginia in the backyard brawl, There's gonna be a lot 1333 00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:13,200 Speaker 1: of pit unders this year. So I think it's gone 1334 00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:14,920 Speaker 1: from fifty four and a half down to fifty two. 1335 00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:17,000 Speaker 1: I would go and get that under in Week one, 1336 00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:18,560 Speaker 1: but I do love Pitt. They're going to try to 1337 00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:20,280 Speaker 1: grind you and beat the hell out of you in 1338 00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:22,440 Speaker 1: the trench, and I don't think Miami is ready to 1339 00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:24,120 Speaker 1: get into that battle yet, and maybe they will be 1340 00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:26,200 Speaker 1: by the end of the season, but it's still not 1341 00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:29,320 Speaker 1: the offensive line that Mario Cristo ball once. Next year 1342 00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:32,160 Speaker 1: maybe next year, Yeah, we'll talk about winning the ACC. 1343 00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:36,520 Speaker 1: So in C State, there's nothing I can say if 1344 00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:38,640 Speaker 1: you've been living on an island. That was the first 1345 00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:40,840 Speaker 1: bet that I made of the twenty twenty two season. 1346 00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:44,360 Speaker 1: They are loaded at every single unit on both sides 1347 00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:46,560 Speaker 1: of the ball. What Devin Leary is doing from the 1348 00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:50,760 Speaker 1: quarterback position has been just absolutely immaculate, especially when it 1349 00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:54,080 Speaker 1: comes to turnover worthy play rate. And this team is 1350 00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:57,680 Speaker 1: focused and hot after getting their Bowl game cut last season. 1351 00:59:58,320 --> 00:59:59,440 Speaker 1: They had a chance to be a part of the 1352 00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:02,480 Speaker 1: college football playoff chatter in November. Uh and just a 1353 01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:05,880 Speaker 1: couple of turnovers and a really narrow loss to Miami 1354 01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:07,960 Speaker 1: really kind of cut all that out. So in C 1355 01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,200 Speaker 1: State to win the ACC, I think they'll definitely win 1356 01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:12,840 Speaker 1: the Atlantic pit to win the Coastal, they'll face each 1357 01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:14,960 Speaker 1: other the AEC championship game. I'll sit back, crack a 1358 01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:16,960 Speaker 1: beverage and don't have to worry about edge neither ticket. 1359 01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:19,760 Speaker 2: All right, there you have it. We'll see if NC 1360 01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:22,560 Speaker 2: State can deal with the expectations. I've said it before. 1361 01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:25,080 Speaker 2: They remind me of Iowa State. So are they mad 1362 01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:27,400 Speaker 2: or are they nervous? It's we're gonna find out a lot. 1363 01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:29,520 Speaker 1: Did you put your East Carolina ticket in yet? Did 1364 01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:31,360 Speaker 1: you get your East Carolina ticket in there? 1365 01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:33,720 Speaker 2: Should have following on the app this weekend and put 1366 01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:36,120 Speaker 2: it in on Saturday plus ten and a half. It's 1367 01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:37,720 Speaker 2: gonna be a it's gonna be a four point game 1368 01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:39,240 Speaker 2: of a minute to go. I talk about I gave 1369 01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:41,080 Speaker 2: you so much a dense state. It's the n C 1370 01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:43,160 Speaker 2: State's either losing that game or winning by thirty eight. 1371 01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:45,720 Speaker 2: All right, that'll do it. For us. We will be 1372 01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:49,280 Speaker 2: recording tomorrow all the Big ten two parts of the SEC. 1373 01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:52,400 Speaker 2: We're in full effect, Baby week zero, I'll be here 1374 01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:54,120 Speaker 2: before we know. Got the PAC twelve to come to. 1375 01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,560 Speaker 2: Then our recap will overall of our favorite preseason bets. 1376 01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:58,800 Speaker 2: Leave some reviews, five star reviews. We're doing a ton 1377 01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:01,600 Speaker 2: of giveaways. We'll get away pro and gear and all that. 1378 01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:04,280 Speaker 2: I'll read through them here shortly, but just big bets 1379 01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:06,080 Speaker 2: on campus. For every listen to the podcast, leave a review, 1380 01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:08,640 Speaker 2: Subscribe on subcribe suscribe Tale friend to one enemy. 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