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Speaker 1: What is Up? Mets fans, Welcome back to another episode

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Speaker 1: of the Mets Up Podcast, the official podcast of the

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Speaker 1: New York Mets. We just finished a series with the

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Speaker 1: Chicago Cubs. We're gonna talk about it, as we always do.

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Speaker 1: Ended well, at least at least we ended well. It

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Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily great the first few games. I think we

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Speaker 1: have some things to talk about a little bit, but

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Speaker 1: good end to the series. As we go into our

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Speaker 1: three game series with Colorado out in Denver, it should

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Speaker 1: be a lot of fun, should be a lot of

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Speaker 1: offense out there, plenty of things to talk about in

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Speaker 1: Mets world, So let's go ahead and do it. Before

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Speaker 1: do appreciate it. And yes, I'm taking the intros back.

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Speaker 1: We flew a little bit too close to the sun.

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Speaker 1: I think we like, we're all about jinxes, we're all

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Speaker 1: about superstitions on this pot, and we tried, but it

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Speaker 1: seems like whenever we purposely do something, that's when we

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Speaker 1: get in trouble, right James.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely too many theatrics. The baseball gods caught up

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Speaker 2: to us. They were aware the baseball gods were elsewhere.

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Speaker 2: They were helping the Mets all last week, and then

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Speaker 2: we we it's probably on us. So like hand up

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Speaker 2: for the for the first couple of games, this series

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Speaker 2: mess did have a little bit of bad luck, especially

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Speaker 2: in Game two, so we apologize for that. But a

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Speaker 2: series that started poorly at least ended well and ended

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Speaker 2: on like a good a good footing to head to

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Speaker 2: Denver with.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I mean, they swung the bats much better in

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Speaker 1: Game three than they did Game one and two. But

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Speaker 1: even then, like Game one, right, that was against or No,

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Speaker 1: Game two was Stroman, Game two was Strowman. We hit

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Speaker 1: the ball hard. I felt like we hit the ball

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Speaker 1: hard in like most of these games, we just couldn't

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Speaker 1: get a run against strom Me. He's a ground ball pitcher.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we've seen the guy pitch before. He's a

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Speaker 1: professional pitcher. He's very good. It just it sucks to

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Speaker 1: get beat by that guy, especially because he loves talking

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Speaker 1: a lot a lot after the game, and to be fair, rightfully,

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Speaker 1: so he did shove.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this series did have like a little bit extra

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Speaker 2: like stuff in it. The Mets and the Cubs are

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Speaker 2: one of those traditional baseball rivalries, rivalry from before our lifetime,

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Speaker 2: and they used to be in the same division, and

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Speaker 2: they going into what Thursday nights game, the Mets had

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Speaker 2: also lost six in a row to Chicago Cubs dating

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Speaker 2: back to last season. So it did feel like a

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Speaker 2: little bit of a little like these teams are looking

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Speaker 2: at each other in a certain way. But yeah, the

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Speaker 2: first two games this series are just so incredibly frustrating.

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Speaker 2: It felt like the Mets got all that out in

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Speaker 2: one shot on Thursday night. Besides the fact that Tucker

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Speaker 2: Barnhrve was throwing forty five mile an hour Chad and

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Speaker 2: we were just we were taking hacks at it and

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Speaker 2: couldn't really really embarrass them. But Thursday night, every guy

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Speaker 2: in that one.

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Speaker 1: No, one hundred percent. I mean, do we want to

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Speaker 1: talk about the positives first? We want to just be

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Speaker 1: be happy for the beginning here I.

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Speaker 2: Think we're going on. I'd rather end let's end positive, right, Okay,

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Speaker 2: let's end positive negative and end positive.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's it's gonna be We're gonna give you

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Speaker 1: the information you want to hear, of course, but it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a quick game one game two. Game one,

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Speaker 1: it was doomed. It was doomed to stood as Brandon

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Speaker 2: It just felt like a lot of momentum from the

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Speaker 2: want to talk about Tyler McGill because it was another

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Speaker 2: fifth inning, like balls I found gloves, it just didn't

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Speaker 2: fourth after allowing six six and four earned runs, and

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Speaker 2: he felt victims of the long ball. And I think

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Speaker 2: an interesting story about his outing and the way he

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Speaker 2: sequence his pitches. First of all, say as Zuki, who

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Speaker 2: we said was gonna be really good ballplayer, had a

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Speaker 2: great series, good defense, good offense, this whole series, really

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Speaker 2: good ballplayer. Just tell him to go through him a

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Speaker 2: first first pitch fasketball right down Broadway and he hit

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Speaker 2: it really far. And then Matt Murvis, who is a

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Speaker 2: scene last year. He's been really struggling, so far, but

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Speaker 2: that really was like on the black that he got,

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Speaker 2: And it was interesting at bat to me in terms

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Speaker 2: He doesn't really ever throw it to lefties. This whole game,

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Speaker 2: he threw just four to them, and he's nervous looking

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Speaker 2: this that bat, it seemed like, because this was the

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Speaker 2: threw him a curveball first pitch, which is a pitch

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Speaker 2: So I was like, all right, I don't want to

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Speaker 2: threw one change up outside a little low, didn't get it,

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Speaker 2: And that was kind of an embody just what like

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Speaker 2: what Tyler McGill is laughing right now, that extra weapon.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like when a guy spits on a

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Speaker 1: pitch like that too, especially a change up, that's kind

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Speaker 1: like let me let me show him one now in

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Speaker 1: was like it was weirdly on the black, but it

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Speaker 1: left center field like he did. Yeah, McGill just didn't

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Speaker 1: also really have the command, it felt like either in

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Speaker 1: I was saying how McGill was trying to paint, trying

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Speaker 1: missing in, missing out, not hitting the glove. I don't

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Speaker 1: just definitely wasn't sharp, which you know, it's it sucks,

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Speaker 1: it's unfortunate, but this is what's gonna happen, especially with

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Speaker 1: Tyler McGill's I mean relatively still doesn't have that many

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Speaker 2: No, he especially coming up last year. But that first

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Speaker 2: start was the slightly looked really good a second start

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Speaker 2: He's getting more depth on it, which is something that

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Speaker 2: he wasn't doing as much. Like that was like kind

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Speaker 2: of the mcgil from twenty twenty one. We've had a

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Speaker 2: We're starting to get all these like Instagram and like

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Speaker 2: and throughout a tweet today about the Mets lineup and

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Speaker 2: in May on May twenty fifth, twenty twenty one, you guys,

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Speaker 2: you guys are complaining about lineups. Here's here's a lineup.

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Speaker 1: Let's just go through that lineup real quick, just for

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Speaker 1: everybody at home so that they can understand exactly what

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Speaker 1: on Twitter, James, two years ago feels like a very

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Speaker 1: Colorado Rockies. We're playing again, like relatively around that time,

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Speaker 1: playing third base. Everybody's favorite shower boy Ernie subtape, Jonathan

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Speaker 1: vr okay, not crazy, Francisco indoor hitting two. And then now,

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Speaker 1: now here's where we get absolutely nuts. James McCann hitting third,

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Speaker 1: which that's that's pretty crazy. But you know what's even crazier.

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Speaker 1: Who's starting at first base? How about hitting fourth, everybody's

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Speaker 1: favorite utility player, Dominic Smith playing left field at catcher,

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Speaker 1: hitting fifth, fifth, Tomas Nido sixth playing second base, Jose

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Speaker 1: Perrazza seventh, James is one of your original memes here,

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Speaker 1: Cash Money may have been playing right field, center field,

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Speaker 1: hitting eighth, Joe Eshwei Fargas, and just just for you know,

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Speaker 1: some laughs, we had a picture hit David Peterson was

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Speaker 1: hitting ninth because that was still a thing in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty one. Yeah, two years ago feels a long time.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: I know Mets fans have had some problems with the

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Speaker 1: lineups recently and have been very very vocal, it feels like,

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Speaker 1: on social media about it. But it could be worse.

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Speaker 1: It could be it could be this, It could be

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Speaker 1: Joe Eshwey Fargus and James McCann hitting third. So at

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Speaker 1: least we don't have that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and now back to your regular schedule programming. But

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Speaker 2: Gil did have five whiffs on ten swings with that

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Speaker 2: with and I just I really can see a future

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Speaker 2: for him, especially now seeing the adjustments Carrasco made Thursday Night,

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Speaker 2: which we'll talk about more we get to that game

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Speaker 2: where he could really lean on that pitch and maybe

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Speaker 2: start mixing in that curve ball more. Alex Eisert was

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Speaker 2: And then also just everyone's favorite stat here, he tied

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Speaker 2: But just the fact that there is still this like

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Speaker 2: highest swing rate against cold and any start this year

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Speaker 2: and by find a much higher zone swing rate. So

433
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Speaker 2: it seemed like, again they were really good at picking

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Speaker 2: up these pitches what was coming next, and we're really

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Speaker 2: taking hacks at ones that were in there, and a

436
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Speaker 2: lot of outside, a lot of chase contacts. So even

437
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Speaker 2: they were chasing, they were getting the bat in the

438
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Speaker 2: ball a lot. And a big part of that was

439
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Speaker 2: they had twenty four foul balls in this game, and

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Speaker 2: that is a part of o contact that that Fangraft

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Speaker 2: keeps usually his like internmost of the starts to sat

442
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Speaker 2: like in the mid to low forties. This was sixty

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Speaker 2: five percent of balls that were outside the strike zone.

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Speaker 2: They may contact with ridiculous number a lot. It comes

445
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Speaker 2: to twenty four foul balls. We still got through five innings,

446
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Speaker 2: three runs, got six strikeouts, and thirteen whifts. The five

447
00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,520
Speaker 2: walks were too many, but he didn't really allow many

448
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Speaker 2: of them to come around to score like it was

449
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Speaker 2: enough to win a game. But it was just very

450
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Speaker 2: infuriating from the hitting side in this game where we

451
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Speaker 2: had no whists, we had no strikeouts, and we're just

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Speaker 2: hitting super sharp ground balls everywhere and they were always

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Speaker 2: field just right there.

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Speaker 1: To take one from your tweet bad day to be

455
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Speaker 1: a warm bad day or a lot of hard a

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Speaker 1: lot of hard hit balls right into the ground. It

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Speaker 1: was a frustrating one. It was a frustrating one too,

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Speaker 1: especially because I mean, we'll talk about Stroman on the

459
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Speaker 1: mound now, I guess because he obviously his tenure didn't

460
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Speaker 1: really end well here with the Mets in terms of

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Speaker 1: how he left or how he felt perceived by the

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Speaker 1: fan base and others. I mean, he pitched a good game,

463
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Speaker 1: we got you again in tip your cap. He deserved

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Speaker 1: to celebrate a little bit, but it seemed as if

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Speaker 1: some people maybe took a little bit of extra I

466
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Speaker 1: don't know if offence is but a little extra note

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Speaker 1: of Marcus Stroman's antics on the mound after he left

468
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Speaker 1: the game, and we're not too happy about it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean, also there there is a part

470
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Speaker 2: of this word this is there's a good chance his

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Speaker 2: most important game the Marcus Stroman pitches the entire year.

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Speaker 2: Besides when the Cubs come to City Field, possibly the

473
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Speaker 2: only other thing that the central Race is pretty wide open.

474
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Speaker 2: But the Cubs probably need to get a little bit

475
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Speaker 2: more out of most of the rest of their starting pitching.

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Speaker 2: Stroman has had a good year, and he's a good pitcher.

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Speaker 2: I'll never take that away from him. The guy that

478
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Speaker 2: always a good always been a good pitcher. And he

479
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Speaker 2: was just he was very excited to leave the game

480
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Speaker 2: after eight innings, and he was tweeting after the game

481
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Speaker 2: that goes all right, all right, like cool, okay, is

482
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Speaker 2: this is this what you want to do?

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Speaker 3: You did it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's the Strowman. That's the thing he does.

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Speaker 1: That's the thing he does. We know it. He's a

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Speaker 1: big fan of like. He likes to talk. He likes

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Speaker 1: to talk. He walked the walk. I mean, I I

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Speaker 1: can't I can't knock it. I can't knock it. As

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Speaker 1: much as I really really really wanted to smack him around,

491
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Speaker 1: I was really hoping the Mets would just tee him up.

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Speaker 1: Did not happen, So dang.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes sometimes you almost swing and miss twice and then

494
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Speaker 2: you don't get anything to show for It just happens

495
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Speaker 2: once in a while. Likes better to be lucky than good.

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Speaker 2: So no, nowhere is there but move on to Game three. Yeah,

497
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Speaker 2: new Lewis, move on to Game three. Had to salvage

498
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Speaker 2: the series with a win, a sweep. He would have

499
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Speaker 2: been devastating after the five game winning streak, but luckily

500
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Speaker 2: we had a new minted stopper. Carlos Carrasco on the mound,

501
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Speaker 2: I said, after his last start, I was very encouraged.

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Speaker 2: I tweeted that. People jumped down my throat and I

503
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Speaker 2: talked about it on this podcast. People said that was crazy.

504
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Speaker 2: And he came out there, gave up the home run

505
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Speaker 2: the first inning. Of course, of course he gave the

506
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Speaker 2: home run the first sitting. You have to do that.

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Speaker 2: You're not going to get You're really you're not going

508
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Speaker 2: to get that excited that quickly, especially when the Mets

509
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Speaker 2: get a run in the first inning. You can't get

510
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Speaker 2: too high. You can't get too high in this world.

511
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Speaker 2: But he really really leans on that split change up

512
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Speaker 2: kind of like a call for a last episode, and

513
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Speaker 2: how good it look. You thirty five percent change ups,

514
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Speaker 2: thirty three percent fastballs. More changeup in fastball is very

515
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Speaker 2: rare thing for Carrasco in his career, but something that

516
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Speaker 2: could be useful. And twenty two percent curve balls, a

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Speaker 2: pitch that looked quite good and throwing to players on

518
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Speaker 2: both sides of the plate. Change up had five withs

519
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Speaker 2: curveball had four, and his fastball was sitting ninety two

520
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Speaker 2: to ninety three all the way into the seventh inning.

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Speaker 2: The last fastball he threw the whole game was his

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Speaker 2: second fastest of the game. Incredible, and he was really

523
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Speaker 2: that died in that fastball up on the outer half

524
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Speaker 2: against left. He's like sitting on that black Huge stuff

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Speaker 2: for Crasco. He really could be the innings either that

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Speaker 2: this team needs moving forward, the one that he was

527
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Speaker 2: just a year ago, and it's a huge step in

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Speaker 2: the right direction.

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Speaker 1: There was that really big inning, what was the third

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Speaker 1: or the fourth where he got into some trouble and

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Speaker 1: me and you were texting and he got that the

532
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Speaker 1: big out, got out of that inning clean, no runs

533
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Speaker 1: on the ground ball, and we both like we text

534
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Speaker 1: each other like wow, that was massive, and it felt

535
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Speaker 1: like that was something that like kind of got him

536
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Speaker 1: like over the hump a little bit. That felt like

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Speaker 1: the point of like contention of just like this is

538
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Speaker 1: this is the game right here. If he can get

539
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Speaker 1: past this, he's gonna be fine. He's kind of been

540
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Speaker 1: in control outside of that first sitting home run he

541
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Speaker 1: got passed it. Like you said, I mean, the dude

542
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Speaker 1: made it into the seventh inning for someone who even myself,

543
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Speaker 1: when I saw the first thing, I was like, ah,

544
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Speaker 1: here we go again, here we go again. Like the

545
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Speaker 1: first inning home run. It's it's crazy the rate he

546
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Speaker 1: gives them up at. But he really did calm down,

547
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Speaker 1: get his stuff down, and pretty much dominate these Cups hitters.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Jerry Blevan has made a great point in the

549
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Speaker 2: post game. I kind of grew that, Like thinking back

550
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Speaker 2: to that inning and watching it, it seemed like he worked

551
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Speaker 2: to say as Suzuki very carefully and the way this

552
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,160
Speaker 2: Cubs lineup is right now, like he's certainly by far

553
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Speaker 2: the most feared we should be the most feared hitre

554
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Speaker 2: in this lineup. He's the one who could really do

555
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Speaker 2: some damage. We felt it most of the series, but

556
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Speaker 2: he was very careful to him through Malata junk, he said,

557
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Speaker 2: if you're I'm gonna get you out, You're gonna get

558
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Speaker 2: yourself out. Saizuki is very disciplined, it's very talent. They

559
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Speaker 2: did not get himself out, and you got Mike Takman

560
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Speaker 2: right behind him, and Mike Takman is incredible, incredible projection protection,

561
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Speaker 2: Mike Trout as we like to call him in some

562
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Speaker 2: of these parts. But it was it was nice to

563
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Speaker 2: see Carrasco do that. And then he got out like

564
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Speaker 2: almost every single consecutive out of the rest of the game,

565
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Speaker 2: like he was just cruising. And then he did go

566
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Speaker 2: out after a single six and two thirds didn't get

567
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Speaker 2: that seventh inning, but just an unbelievably huge start for

568
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Speaker 2: him For what we need going forward, yep.

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Speaker 1: Being able to give us that length, that's something we've

570
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Speaker 1: been just begging and pleading for and we've i mean,

571
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Speaker 1: this series theoretically, the pitchers like didn't go like two

572
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Speaker 1: innings like they had been in the past. They just

573
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Speaker 1: they lost because the offense didn't really get enough runs

574
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Speaker 1: in those games. The pitching could have been better in

575
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Speaker 1: Game one, Game two, but Game of three, Carlos Krasco

576
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Speaker 1: a show so sharp, and then of course the bats

577
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Speaker 1: came alive, which is just always so nice, so nice.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing that the bat when we hit. How much

579
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Speaker 1: more fun is it to watch these games?

580
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Speaker 2: So much more fun? Credit to John for this stat.

581
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Speaker 2: After the first sitting, the mess did get their run.

582
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Speaker 2: We mentioned it before, mentioned now fifteen and three went

583
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Speaker 2: scoring first. Fifteen and three when scoring first, that's incredible.

584
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Speaker 2: Baby had the first two RBIs of the game. Starling

585
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Speaker 2: had a really timely two out, two run single that

586
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Speaker 2: felt like a got his breathing room and kind of

587
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Speaker 2: let everybody relaxed able to do it. And then we

588
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Speaker 2: had the speed duo of Jeff McNeil and Pete Alonzo

589
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Speaker 2: with a double steal. Shout out Buck for the call

590
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Speaker 2: there got the ball through. It was with a shift too,

591
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Speaker 2: because Baby was up and it looked like it kind

592
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Speaker 2: of confused Young Gomes a little bit and Patrick Wisdom,

593
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Speaker 2: who doesn't play a pristine third base, we have to

594
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Speaker 2: say that, but this ball was. This ball was thrown

595
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Speaker 2: closer to the way with short stop plays and the

596
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 2: third basement plays went all the way into the outfield.

597
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Speaker 2: Jeffs score got the fifth run, and then Pete had

598
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Speaker 2: the second home run of the series. Dude Owens Wriggley

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Speaker 2: Field nineteenth of the year for the fifth RBI, and

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Speaker 2: it's only May twenty fifth. This is the most home

601
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Speaker 2: runs through the Mets' first fifty one games, and the

602
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 2: previous was set by Pete in twenty nineteen, tied with

603
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Speaker 2: Dave Kingman in nineteen seventy six, but nineteen home runs

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Speaker 2: through fifty one games.

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Speaker 1: I was literally about to tell you because I looked

606
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Speaker 1: it up myself. I didn't realize John put in the

607
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Speaker 1: notes about what was Pete's pace in the you know,

608
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Speaker 1: rookie home run year that he broke the record fifty

609
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Speaker 1: one games through seventeen home runs. He's at nineteen right now.

610
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Speaker 1: Swinging the bat really well. I know, like the averages

611
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Speaker 1: the average is low, but his ops is like nine hundred,

612
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Speaker 1: So don't care, don't care, keep hitting, keep crushing it.

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Speaker 1: The home run swing is there. I love it when

614
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Speaker 1: Pete swinging for the fences. I hate when he's swinging

615
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Speaker 1: for singles. That's not what he's there for. And he's

616
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Speaker 1: been just lifting and carrying the ball so well, hitting

617
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Speaker 1: it hard. It feels. It's so good when Pete swinging

618
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Speaker 1: it like that, He's absolutely locked in with the power

619
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Speaker 1: right now.

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Speaker 2: You also know Pete's going well when he has a

621
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Speaker 2: game where he did not get out, he walked, he

622
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Speaker 2: hit the home run, he had a single, and he

623
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Speaker 2: also walked twice. They didn't want to thank you for

624
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Speaker 2: the ops right there, really for the ops because ops

625
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Speaker 2: matters and bating average really does not. Sorry everybody. And

626
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Speaker 2: then Nemo hit his big triple and Door had a

627
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Speaker 2: RBS single after that, and then that's it. We just

628
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Speaker 2: we just we took the lead. And when the mess

629
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Speaker 2: take a big lead, like especially in a game that

630
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Speaker 2: is like especially on the road where people are uncomfortable,

631
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Speaker 2: we get to wacky hours with U, especially when it's

632
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Speaker 2: to Keith, the Keith and uh the Keith and Gary booths.

633
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Speaker 2: We talked about before the differences of like the duos

634
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Speaker 2: Gary and Ron, Gary and Ron and Gary and Keith

635
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Speaker 2: and the triple together, but when it's just Gary and Keith,

636
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Speaker 2: we get to whacky hours. Keith audibly yned in the

637
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Speaker 2: eighth inning, which was such a beautiful moment. They were

638
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Speaker 2: they had to they had to get s and y

639
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Speaker 2: they bring them their jackets. I think it was in

640
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Speaker 2: the sixth Gary kept talking about jacket zip for the

641
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Speaker 2: but Gary was like the s and Hy jacket so amazing.

642
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,159
Speaker 2: Look at sny jacket company. Man always respect Gary, he

643
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 2: knows he knows the drill. Keith said at one point,

644
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Speaker 2: we need to get these ten last apps so I

645
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Speaker 2: get out of the cold, which is pretty funny. Soccer

646
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Speaker 2: Barnhart was pitching, throwing forty five mile an hour Chad

647
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 2: like I said before, and Gary was like, I've seen

648
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 2: him throw harder from home plake the second, Like what's

649
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 2: he doing right now? This is ridiculous. And then they

650
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 2: called Steve Gelb's a tenderfoot because he went inside and

651
00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 2: skipped the last three innings. Tenderfoot, like tender is such,

652
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 2: that's something that you'll hear, like from an uncle, I

653
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 2: like a barbecue, Like you'll never hear that, like it

654
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 2: happens stance from anyone from our generation. A tender foot.

655
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:09,679
Speaker 2: It's wacky hours.

656
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 1: I love it. One of the things that I really

657
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 1: liked in this game too, is that the Mets booth

658
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,400
Speaker 1: for the game and the Cubs booth are right next

659
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 1: to each other, and they're separated by like I mean,

660
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 1: we've been upstairs at the city field, one separated by

661
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 1: like glass you can see through, but there was like

662
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,639
Speaker 1: a curtain or like a piece of felt that was

663
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 1: covering it, and they took it off and like looked

664
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 1: in and Boog Shambi because I also had the Cubs

665
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 1: went on just to see their wave night shows, like, oh,

666
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 1: I just saw Gary and Keith, and then Keith immediately

667
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:36,639
Speaker 1: starts like taping up. He's putting it back up, like

668
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 1: I want to look at these guys.

669
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 2: Get him out of here. No, it's funny. And Boog

670
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 2: goes over into the field on Sunday too, doing Sunday

671
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,400
Speaker 2: night baseball stuff. So it probably probably said high the ends.

672
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 2: Just funny that they could travel together. But overall, nice

673
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 2: way to finish off a series that started off disappointing.

674
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,640
Speaker 2: Kind of got the good feelings back. You got used

675
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 2: to cold evenings and scoring a lot of runs, which

676
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,479
Speaker 2: is a perfect way. They send you off to Denver,

677
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 2: which is a perfect way to bring in John talk

678
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:00,879
Speaker 2: about the estimate from this series and give us them

679
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 2: for the next series. John, I don't who even won?

680
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,400
Speaker 2: I don't, I don't even know. I feel like it's

681
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 2: you because I think there was some four four thirty

682
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 2: four Pete on Tuesday, Baby one early.

683
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 3: All right, Pete, that was a nice one.

684
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 4: Speaking of which, James, you had mentioned Pete owns Wrigley Field,

685
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 4: and I was just kind of like sitting waiting thinking.

686
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 4: So I looked at the all times slugging percentage leaders

687
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 4: at Wrigley Field minimum fifty played appearances, and obviously wriggly

688
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 4: Field goes over just about.

689
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 3: A century back.

690
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 4: No one has a higher slugging percentage in the history

691
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 4: of the stadium than Pete Alonso, No one. And then

692
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,439
Speaker 4: here's what's crazier. So Pete's number one. That's great. I

693
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 4: was going to share that regardless. Good note Number four

694
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:48,239
Speaker 4: on that list is John olrud and number five is

695
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 4: Ike Davis. So we have the top five or Mets

696
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 4: first basement at one point or another, which is just

697
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 4: a weird coincidence.

698
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 3: But yeah, that's that's pretty crazy.

699
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 2: That's Mets first basement that like perfectly span like thirty

700
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 2: years too. That's amazing. That's those are two of your boys,

701
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 2: like Davis and John olarun.

702
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 4: That is spot on, and honestly, like, I really think

703
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 4: it's time now that people I've heard this, this starting

704
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 4: to percolate, this take and it's not really a take

705
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 4: like Pete Alonzo was entering a situation where he is

706
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 4: on track to be the best position player in the

707
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 4: franchise's history. And like you know, Mark said, that's not

708
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,439
Speaker 4: hyperbole about Francisco Alvarez. What he was saying, it's not

709
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,640
Speaker 4: hyperbole to say that about Pete Alonzo either. Nope, he's

710
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 4: going to have the home run He's gonna have the

711
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 4: home run title in like what two years?

712
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 2: Maybe, Yeah, yeah, we've we've seen this before, so I'm

713
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 2: not going to say anything like that. But also plays

714
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,239
Speaker 2: really good baseball on a regular basis. And as long

715
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 2: as you don't say it, James, No, he's I like

716
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 2: watching Pilonzo play baseball. I'm not gonna say anything. But yeah, no,

717
00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,919
Speaker 2: it's true fact. Yeah, that's it all you can do.

718
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

719
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 4: Well, another good showing is four hunch. Thirty four foot

720
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 4: home run brings James to within one.

721
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 2: Here the last last time was within one. We'll have

722
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 2: to check the tapes, the tape because I was down

723
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 2: to and I won two in a row. Check back, Yeah,

724
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 2: that would make it. Check back, check the tape, John.

725
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 3: We'll check the tapes we have.

726
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,360
Speaker 2: We have it'd be nice if you wrote this down

727
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 2: as a person who runs it.

728
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 3: I got I got it all up here. I'm pretty

729
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 3: sure you're down.

730
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 2: I was down to before last episode, but last the

731
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 2: last Sunday was a whirlwin. So I can know I

732
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 2: can understand you not remembering Yo Red Night registering that night.

733
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 4: Last Sunday was the world those fourteen hours. Anyway, the

734
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 4: Mets going into Colorado. Another fun fact here for you guys,

735
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 4: Brandon Nemo has more home runs against the Rockies than

736
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 4: the Atlanta Braves and he's played about a third of

737
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 4: the games against.

738
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 2: Not that fun of a fact, John, Do you don't

739
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 2: think it's no, it's nothing. In fact, it's in fact,

740
00:28:59,200 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 2: it's not fun.

741
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 3: It's interesting to me.

742
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 2: I mean it's interesting facts, not fun.

743
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 3: I used the wrong word there, Yeah, you did.

744
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 2: Numbers men, words men.

745
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 3: Well, it's a thing.

746
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 4: Brandon Emo does have more homers against the Rockies than

747
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 4: the Braves. Obviously grew up rooting for the Colorado Rockies.

748
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 4: So this is gonna be a Brandon Emo focused estimate. Luckily,

749
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 4: it won't be a singular event estimate because this estimate

750
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 4: was over after four innings of baseball, and I kind

751
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 4: of felt stupid about that. But Oh, well, I've done

752
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 4: dumber things in my life. So what we're gonna go

753
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 4: with here is Brandon Emo. We're gonna go total hits,

754
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 4: runs and RBI in this three game series against the

755
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 4: Colorado Rockies.

756
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: Okay, wow, okay, let me let me go, let me

757
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,479
Speaker 1: go grab paper and pencil. I forgot we do this.

758
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 2: I got my whiteboard. Wow.

759
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 4: I would have had a whiteboard handy for you, Mark,

760
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 4: but we're not together right now.

761
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 3: I do wish that the Mets were playing on Monday.

762
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 4: I was looking, you know, thinking what am I gonna

763
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 4: do Monday, laying out my day? Pull up the MLB

764
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 4: app and no Mets baseball on Monday. And I can't

765
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 4: even hate watch the Yankees on Monday because they don't

766
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 4: play until nine to forty They're in Seattle. So I

767
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 4: guess I'm gonna have to be a social human being

768
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 4: on Monday, which, yeah.

769
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 2: I gotta hang out with friends for the barbecue. Got

770
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 2: a barbecue with some friends Sunday, but just kind of

771
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 2: dan chill, not much going on. Another friends in town

772
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 2: shout out Ross Dave Bednar's cousin. My buddy's in town.

773
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 2: Gonna get to see him hang out for a few days,

774
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 2: but yeah, very good. Hits runs are be honest, yep.

775
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 4: Now why you guys ponder that? Something else for you

776
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 4: to ponder? Where do you rank the three barbecues. You

777
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 4: got your Memorial Day barbecue that started the summer, you

778
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 4: got your July fourth, the middle of summer. Then you

779
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 4: got your Labor Day, which to me is the worst

780
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 4: one because it means it's the end of summer.

781
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 3: But I do like that weather the most, and football

782
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 3: is about to start.

783
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 2: That yeah, Forthtulyes got would be one. And I think

784
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 2: probably Memorial Day is so great because like the summers

785
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 2: that you fingertips, but Labor Day is cool because like

786
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 2: football is at your fingertips. But I think, yeah, I

787
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 2: think it's probably fourth July Memorial Day, Labor Day. I

788
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 2: love you have these questions for us. Every episode's a

789
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 2: nice little touch from the John The John Variety Hour,

790
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 2: any questions.

791
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 4: The path Like last time at the end of the episode,

792
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 4: I promised, don't worry.

793
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: That's why you probably forgot the record you were thinking

794
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: of that still.

795
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 2: Exactly, stewart Less believe.

796
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: I've got my number.

797
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, just all right, all right, ready three, two, one.

798
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: Bang, ten.

799
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 2: Well I'm finally on.

800
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 4: The even all Right, all right, I'm gonna go check

801
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 4: back last week's episode and uh we'll come back. We'll

802
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 4: know exactly where things stand. Uh, next next week on

803
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 4: Sunday Night. Yes, a series victory in Colorado, so that'd

804
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 4: be great.

805
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 3: We'll talk to you guys.

806
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 2: Thanks, John.

807
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's go ahead and review this rocky

808
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: series because I texted you about a really, really fun

809
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,239
Speaker 1: name that we are going to see in Colorado. Hm,

810
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: and uh, let me tell you. Let me tell you something.

811
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: If you guys are old school listeners of the METSA podcast,

812
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 1: you will remember this name probably better than maybe any

813
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: other name, because we had a lot of fun with him.

814
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: You used to pitch for the Philadelphia Phillies. James. Who's

815
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 1: the old friend we're seeing out in Colorado.

816
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 2: Besides Brad Hand, the second game of this rocky series

817
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 2: is going to be started by none other than Chase Anderson.

818
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 2: Chase Anderson, unbelievable, Chase.

819
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: Literally not a real name. That's one of those that

820
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: you get on MLB the show. You have your your

821
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: draft classes coming in, you just finished your first year

822
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: of your franchise, and they're like, here's here's the list

823
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: of names. You have Nick Smith, you have Chase Anderson,

824
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,719
Speaker 1: you have Will Johnson. Which one are you picking? All

825
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: of them are fake names, none of them are real.

826
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: Chase Anderson is real. In this scenario, we'll say, found

827
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: out he had a little little stop in Tampa Bay.

828
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: What is that all about?

829
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's running one one R right now, so we can't.

830
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 2: We can't mess with that. But Chase Anderson again, we're not. No,

831
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 2: can't to fame the guy's careers. But then more than

832
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 2: seven years I will be service time. That's no, that's

833
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 2: not a joke right there. He's made millions of dollars.

834
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 2: Good for Chase Anderson, He's set up his family for generations. However,

835
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 2: we need to diholate him in Colorado. Need we need

836
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 2: to hit the ball a million a million feet combined

837
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 2: against Chase Anderson and and Connor Seabold and an Austin Gomber.

838
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 2: It's it's a's a. I don't want to say anything

839
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 2: about these pictures for the Rockies. It's got a pitching

840
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 2: this weekend, especially because Austin Gomber really really shut us

841
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 2: down in Queens. But there's I would like I would

842
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 2: like Sherzer Seabold and Verlander Anderson to go a certain way.

843
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 3: That's all.

844
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 2: That's all I'm gonna say.

845
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'd like for them to win. I think I

846
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: think that's a fair statement.

847
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 2: Sure it would, it would be Mets win, and it

848
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 2: would be preferable from my perspective, for the Mets to

849
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 2: win at least the first two games of the series.

850
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:56,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, without a doubt. Yeah, very very preferable. And

851
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: I mean, if we're getting crazy, you know, i'd like

852
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: to win all three. But again, baby steps.

853
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 2: For sure, and take something else fun. The shout out

854
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 2: I think jerks and Profile is on a thirty two

855
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 2: game on bass Streak right now as we head to Colorado. Yeah, no, yeah,

856
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 2: he's he's he found it a little bit and he's hitting.

857
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,399
Speaker 1: He's in the top of the thirty on base though.

858
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the first The first twenty games were very poor,

859
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 2: very very bad, and I guess something clicked. He didn't

860
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 2: even really have a spring training, so it kind of

861
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,879
Speaker 2: makes sense. But we saw this team recently, so it's

862
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 2: not that much a shout out. The only guy who

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Speaker 2: I think is interesting who wasn't we didn't really talk

864
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 2: about last time, but he did have a good series.

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Speaker 2: Breton Doyle, he's just like a Barry Toolesy, young outfielder

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Speaker 2: who's kind of making a name for himself right now.

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Speaker 2: They're starting pitchers right now are mostly creative players. Is

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00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 2: a guy named Carl Kauffman who's been getting runs through

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00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 2: and this that I can't Carl Cofflin with a K

870
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Speaker 2: to a double K. Carl Kaufman, there's not Yeah, No CJ. Crohne,

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Speaker 2: he's on the IL. Still No Brandon Rodgers. Uh. Antonio

872
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 2: Sanetello went back on the IL. Ryan Feldner went on

873
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Speaker 2: the IL as well, old friends that we saw recently.

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Speaker 2: It's just i'd really i'd prefer I'd prefer to beat

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00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 2: this team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, big preference, big preference to win some games

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00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: against the old Colorado Rockies in Denver. It should be

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00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 1: a lot of offense. There should be well usually when

879
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: you play there, there is some thin air. Big outfield.

880
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: I believe it's the biggest outfield in all of baseball.

881
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: Lot Yes, so it tends to lead to more hits.

882
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: The big misconception is about the home runs. It's I

883
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 1: think still above average in home runs just because it's Colorado.

884
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,399
Speaker 1: But really where Colorado gets crazy is the hits, which

885
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: makes it even crazier when people throw a no hitter

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00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: in Colorado, which is just one of the craziest things

887
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 1: that could ever happen. I think it's happened. What twice?

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00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 2: I Believedeo Nomo did that, correct? And I'm not sure

889
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,919
Speaker 2: so and New Baldos they all to do it at home.

890
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 2: I think he did.

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00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna look up no hitters in Coors Field.

892
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 1: There's definitely been Oh no, it might just be Hitdeo Nomo.

893
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was Nomo. I remember Nomo doing

894
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 2: it for sure. But yeah, that is definitely the comm

895
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 2: misconception about playing Colorado. Like we also should note that

896
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 2: they do have the second highest park factor for home

897
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 2: runs behind Cincinnati Reds. But the other big misconception, just

898
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 2: to end, let you guys out of here. In like

899
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 2: a nerd, the nerdy pitching rant is that the thin

900
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 2: air makes the ball travel further. That is true to

901
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 2: a degree, but that's nowhere near as important to like

902
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 2: how much hitters hit there. Based on the fact that

903
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 2: the air density drastically changes the way pitches move fastball carrying, hop, curveball, depth,

904
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 2: slider movement, like everything is significantly affected by by the

905
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 2: thin the aras I heard an interview from Marko Gonzalez

906
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:27,879
Speaker 2: from years ago. I've talked about this a few times

907
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 2: in the podcasts, where he grew up in Colorado outside

908
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 2: of Denver, and when he grew up, he didn't even

909
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 2: learn a breaking ball because he knew that would just

910
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 2: be like kind of a waste of time. So the

911
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 2: rest of his career is the rest of its velpment

912
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 2: as a player, and he just like perfected two different changeups,

913
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 2: a circle and a vulcan to be like, I want

914
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,280
Speaker 2: these two different pitches because the air density won't affect

915
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 2: their movement as much. So that was pretty interesting.

916
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I mean, I mean we've always joked about

917
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: how like man, once Herman Marquez leaves that that team, boy,

918
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 1: oh boy, is he going to make a run out

919
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: of an award or something. He's gonna be great. But yeah,

920
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 1: it's just it's really hard to pitch there for a

921
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: variety of different reasons. And the Rockies, you know, they

922
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 1: also they don't really invest in pitching too much, it

923
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: seems like. So for sure, the Mets bats stay hot

924
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: like they did against the Cubs. We'd like to see

925
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: him continue to swing. Swing like that.

926
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 2: I think, yes, keep playing like that. It's also funny

927
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 2: that everyone always says that about Rockies pitchers and a

928
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 2: guy like John Gray leaves and he's still basically doing

929
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 2: almost the same thing. Came in and game out, and

930
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 2: then a lot of people always say you gotta watch

931
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 2: out for the Rockies hitters that leave, And almost every

932
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,240
Speaker 2: single guy who's left has been as good basically everywhere

933
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 2: else except for Trevor Story, who I don't know what's

934
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 2: happened to that guy, hopefully gets that back. But yeah,

935
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 2: go to Colorado, win a couple of games. Let's have

936
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 2: a good world everybody.

937
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: Also breaking news, we have clarification on the estimate. James,

938
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 1: you were right. It is a title all game, right.

939
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 2: I know I was right, John. I mean, John is

940
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 2: very excited to go to Denver, and I understand that

941
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 2: he really loves, really loves all Denver offers, so it

942
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 2: makes sense that he would be forgetful of that fact.

943
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 1: Yes. So, I don't think there's really anything else to

944
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 1: really talk about here, right, I think we're pretty much

945
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 1: wrapping it up. I do we do have a new

946
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: review on the podcast. Shout out to Josh Doying. Actually

947
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: he reached out to me on Twitter the other day.

948
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 1: He actually is doing something really cool where he is

949
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: making like a like kids like bedtime stories about baseball players,

950
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 1: and he does a lot about the Mets. He's a

951
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: big Met fan. So if you guys want to check

952
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: out Josh's stuff, I believe it's like bedtime New York

953
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 1: Mets stories or bedtime Stories Mets, you go find them there.

954
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 1: But he said, James and Bark balanced sports talk with

955
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: deeper analysis, and on top of all that keep things fun.

956
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 1: They may even be responsible for how the team is

957
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: doing based on who's doing the intro. No pressure, Sorry, Josh, Josh,

958
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: we let you down. I'm back. I especially love the interviews,

959
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: whether getting those thoughtful responses from players or bringing on

960
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 1: media and other personalities. They provide a unique insight that

961
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: help support my fandom. Appreciate it, Josh, thank you.

962
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 2: We've also we've also had a few more than we

963
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 2: didn't mention just because the team wasn't playing that well

964
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 2: and it felt weird to like sing our own praises

965
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 2: when the Mets were are struggling. But this is a

966
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 2: one by Brad st Mets fan just discovered you guys

967
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 2: love it all. Interviewing has been great, love the details

968
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 2: of the pitcher's breakdowns. Great job, Jens, but also I

969
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 2: don't want us to get too high. We did have

970
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 2: a really negative interview comm in and I want to

971
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 2: read it because I love the negative interviews.

972
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 1: The list keep it, keep me grounded, man ground in

973
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: my head was getting a little big there.

974
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 2: This is a good one and this really takes shots

975
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 2: to everyone here individually, so you the hope you're listening.

976
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,760
Speaker 2: Big City won five seven said poorly produced. The host

977
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 2: talk one thousand miles an hour. There are one hundred

978
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 2: Mets podcasts out there, and this one ain't the one.

979
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: Big Cities his name. He can't be from New York,

980
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: otherwise you would understand exactly what our our miles per

981
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: hour are. With how we're talking, Yeah, we do talk fast,

982
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 1: but that's where we're from. I know, James, you've made

983
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:26,959
Speaker 1: a conscious effort to try and slow down.

984
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm really trying to. It's hard for me because

985
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 2: I talked so fast my whole life. It's always been

986
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 2: this way. Teachers have told me, friends have told me.

987
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 2: I don't think it's ever gonna stop. Also, I just

988
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 2: got I kind of got funny, like scrolling through these

989
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 2: reviews the other deys, I wanted to like find more

990
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 2: negative ones because I love them. This is a great

991
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 2: one from last year when we first started. I want

992
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 2: to leave this out on.

993
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,320
Speaker 1: This Okay, all right, fine.

994
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 2: It's great. Perfect You scoundrels ended my favorite Mets podcast.

995
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 2: I like being called a scoundrel.

996
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 1: That's that's one thing that I'm being called. I've never

997
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 1: been called a scoundrel before, so so shout out to

998
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: that guy Scout. You have a guest who that might

999
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,280
Speaker 1: be based on the word scoundrel, be Grek.

1000
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 2: So shout you out de Grek.

1001
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 1: All right, well, that's a good place for us to

1002
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: wrap it up here on the Mets Up Podcast. Thank

1003
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: you guys so much for listening and watching. Remember to

1004
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: follow us on all our social media at Mets up,

1005
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 1: MTTSDUP on Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok. Shout out Vito making

1006
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 1: some great Instagram reels for us we've been posting over there.

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Speaker 1: Shout to Francisco Alvarez liking one of our reels about him. Yes,

1008
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: shout to Francisco. I tell you how you know he's

1009
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Speaker 1: paying attention listening to the best podcasts in the world

1010
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: right here.

1011
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 2: Follow us.

1012
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,240
Speaker 1: Nope, I said that. If you're looking for the YouTube video,

1013
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Speaker 1: go to the Mets YouTube channel subscribe Over there, you'll

1014
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: be able to watch the video version of us. And

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Speaker 1: if you're listening Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts, whatever it is, rating, review, download, subscribe,

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Speaker 1: you might get a shout out Thank you guys so

1017
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: much for listening. Follow James on Twitter.

1018
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 2: At James Underscore Chiano.

1019
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: And follow me at traftnick Mark with a C. We'll

1020
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: catch you after the Rocky series. Let's let's go win one.

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00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: Let's win one.

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Speaker 2: Bye, peace out and see you next time. Six