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Speaker 2: It is Thursday night, December tenth, the year of Our Lord,

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty. We've got a final week of games in

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Speaker 2: some portions of the country. We've got conference championship games

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Speaker 2: just on the horizon. But I want you to keep

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Speaker 2: in mind that twenty twenty has, among many other things,

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Speaker 2: thrown your sense of time probably for a loop. So

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Speaker 2: I was just thinking about this earlier as we were

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Speaker 2: putting the show together, and right now people are talking

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Speaker 2: about the playoff in hypothetical terms. We did a hypothetical video,

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Speaker 2: forty five minutes worth of it that we put on

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Speaker 2: the YouTube channel yesterday, and we were just talking about how.

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Speaker 1: This could play out, how that could play out normally.

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Speaker 2: When you're talking about that, the playoff is way down

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Speaker 2: the road, and I just want you to keep in

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Speaker 2: mind it's not late November when we would normally be

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Speaker 2: playing the last week of the season. It is December tenth,

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Speaker 2: as I said, and conference championship Saturday is going to

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Speaker 2: be what December nineteenth or something like that. The playoffs

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Speaker 2: are three weeks away. The semifinal games are twenty one

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Speaker 2: days from this very moment in time, So we don't

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Speaker 2: have much longer to go in the twenty twenty college

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Speaker 2: football season. However, we can deal with that as it comes. Tonight,

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Speaker 2: We've got a jam pack show. We are loaded as

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Speaker 2: loaded can be. We are going to do week fifteenth predictions.

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Speaker 2: Normally we do those on Tuesday night, but I mean

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Speaker 2: to be honest, we didn't know which games we're going

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Speaker 2: good thing we waited because a couple of them we

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Speaker 2: would have hit on got canceled on us.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to give you some more out of LSU.

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Speaker 2: Been talking to a whole lot of people out of

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Speaker 2: Baton Rouge this week, So I mean, I can't promise

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Speaker 2: you good news, but I can promise you some more news.

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Speaker 2: At least coaching moves if they're going to happen, they're

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Speaker 2: coming this week. I'm not talking about LSU there, I'm

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Speaker 2: coaching moves, if they're coming, this is the weekend, so

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Speaker 2: keep an ear to the ground there. We will at

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Speaker 2: least college football playoff in a very general way. I

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Speaker 2: want to talk about that tonight because I got an

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Speaker 2: really in a lot of ways mirror the mentality that

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Speaker 2: many more of you have about the college football payoff.

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Speaker 2: I've seen some articles written on it, and it's just

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Speaker 2: think the college football playoff has hurt the sport of

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Speaker 2: college football overall? The help if you were to take

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Speaker 2: a health and wellness report, is the sport less healthy

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Speaker 2: because of the playoff? Not is it less healthy today

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Speaker 2: than before the playoff? Is it less healthy because of

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Speaker 2: the playoff? We'll discuss that this evening. Also, the Big

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Speaker 2: ten through a really big swerve at you. There wasn't

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Speaker 2: really a swerve of at all. We expected it if

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Speaker 2: you watch late kick Whitney won the spelling Bee or

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Speaker 2: the geography be in other words, So we're going to

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Speaker 2: talk about that, and we are going to deliver five

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Speaker 2: best bets tonight. We're going to do something in the

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Speaker 2: rama Noudle express we have not done to this point

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Speaker 1: In fact, I have not put this out on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: But what we're doing for the first time.

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Speaker 2: In the show's brief history at twenty four to seven,

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Speaker 2: we have not announced publicly, so it's not earth shattering,

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Speaker 2: reminder subscribe to the channel. We have had Bonkers is

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Speaker 2: an overused word, but the traffic on the channel this

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Speaker 2: week has been nothing short of bonkers. Now, there's a

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Speaker 2: We got a full eight hour special coming up next

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Speaker 2: exclusive rights to the SEC. No more SEC on CBS,

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Speaker 2: This is a big deal, obviously for your viewing experience.

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Speaker 2: and I'm very hesitant to buy into this notion that

435
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Speaker 2: a few staff changes here and there that'll be the difference. Well,

436
00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,840
Speaker 2: that old adage rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic that

437
00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,240
Speaker 2: exists for a reason, you could make the deck of

438
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Speaker 2: the Titanic look different. That matter still going down is

439
00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,520
Speaker 2: that LSU football is. If so, it would be the

440
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Speaker 2: most spectacularly horrific collapse in I'm not going to say

441
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Speaker 2: the history of college football only because I wasn't around

442
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Speaker 2: in nineteen thirty seven, However, it would be noteworthy. Let

443
00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,439
Speaker 2: me just say that. So, I think that we're going

444
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Speaker 2: to see a lot of movement, to say the least,

445
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Speaker 2: staff wise, they are in line to lock down a

446
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Speaker 2: top five recruiting class, maybe even more lofty than that

447
00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:27,679
Speaker 2: next week and then moving into the early portion of

448
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty one. But this is if you want something

449
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Speaker 2: on top of your program, like if you're a Michigan

450
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Speaker 2: State fan or a Colorado fan, if you want something

451
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Speaker 2: to track on top of your program over the coming

452
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Speaker 2: weeks and months, LSU football there will be no shortage

453
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Speaker 2: of news breaking out of Baton rouge.

454
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Speaker 1: All right, let's move on up. Kind of a.

455
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Speaker 2: Platform that LSU dominated last year, we didn't do it.

456
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Speaker 2: We didn't do a classic Late Kick Extra. Today we

457
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Speaker 2: did the College Football Playoff Scenario Roundtable. So normally on

458
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Speaker 2: Thursday morning, if you're a subscriber to the Late Kick podcast,

459
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Speaker 2: get something in that feed that you don't get on

460
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Speaker 2: the YouTube channel, and that is strictly Q and A.

461
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Speaker 2: We call it the Late Kick Extra podcast and I

462
00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,000
Speaker 2: just take your questions, I answer them. Very revolutionary concept,

463
00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,280
Speaker 2: I know. But this morning we did something different. Therefore,

464
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Speaker 2: I didn't get to get to all the questions we

465
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Speaker 2: got from this week, and so I wanted to hit

466
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Speaker 2: one of them right now. Jeremy asked something that a

467
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Speaker 2: lot of you have asked. I've seen some national guys

468
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Speaker 2: writing about this this week. He just asks, simply, has

469
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Speaker 2: the college Football Playoff hurt the sport of college football overall?

470
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Speaker 2: So I wanted to take a poll. You're listening or

471
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Speaker 2: you're watching right now live or replay. I just want

472
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Speaker 2: you to think to yourself, you're probably all alone if

473
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Speaker 2: you're not explain what you're about to do to your

474
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Speaker 2: loved ones. Who are watching you or else, they're going

475
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Speaker 2: to think weird things.

476
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Speaker 1: But I just want to take a poll.

477
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Speaker 2: I want you to raise your hand out there if

478
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Speaker 2: you think the playoff has hurt the sport of college

479
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Speaker 2: football overall. And I know what the reasons are, So

480
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Speaker 2: you tell me if I nail down one or more

481
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Speaker 2: of your reasons.

482
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Speaker 1: Here the reasons that I normally hear. I wrote him down.

483
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Speaker 2: It's all the focus goes to the college football Playoff.

484
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 2: A lot of the coverage goes to the college football Playoff.

485
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,080
Speaker 2: Only the teams who are in the playoff hunt get

486
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,399
Speaker 2: coverage late in the season, and then like ninety percent

487
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,439
Speaker 2: of the sport doesn't have the spotlight shown on it.

488
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 2: Also games outside the college football playoffsphere, so if that

489
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Speaker 2: have playoff implications, in other words, they just don't matter. Bowls,

490
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,439
Speaker 2: a lot of bowls are deemed kind of irrelevant. Is

491
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Speaker 2: that most of it. There's one more, and I'm gonna

492
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Speaker 2: address it separately, but basically, a lot of you just

493
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Speaker 2: feel the college football Playoff has sucked all the attention

494
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Speaker 2: out of the room, and it's put it on about

495
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Speaker 2: ten teams at the expense of about one hundred and

496
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Speaker 2: twenty teams. Do you feel that way? Because if you

497
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Speaker 2: feel that way, I feel that way along with you.

498
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Speaker 2: But I got to ask you something. Has the college

499
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Speaker 2: football playoff hurt the sport? Or is the way the

500
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 2: playoff is covered hurting the sport? Those are two different things.

501
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,399
Speaker 2: Playoff could be totally innocent here, and the folks charged

502
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Speaker 2: with covering this sport could be doing you a disservice.

503
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Speaker 2: If you're a fan of North Carolina football right now,

504
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,679
Speaker 2: you guys got a big game Saturday against Miami. I

505
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,920
Speaker 2: know because we're about to talk about it in the show.

506
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 2: Don't see many other people talking about it. We do

507
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Speaker 2: things a little bit differently on our show because of

508
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 2: the very problems that I have listened to you state

509
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,439
Speaker 2: about the playoff. We're not too good to listen to

510
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Speaker 2: our audience here, and so when you guys say that stuff,

511
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 2: I listen. And if you want evidence of that, think back,

512
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 2: the regular listeners and viewers to the show. Think back

513
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 2: over the last few months so the college football season.

514
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Speaker 2: How many playoff segments have you seen me do or

515
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Speaker 2: listen to me do. How many playoff projections have we done?

516
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Speaker 2: How many brackets has Colin made up? Graphically and put

517
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Speaker 2: on the screen. And here's where we think the Rose

518
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 2: Bowl is right now, and here's where we think things

519
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 2: will be in Miami second week of January. The next

520
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Speaker 2: time we do that will be the first time we've

521
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Speaker 2: done it. We haven't done hardly any playoff conversation. In fact,

522
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Speaker 2: this is one of the very few college football playoff

523
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Speaker 2: segments that we've done the entire season. And the reason

524
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Speaker 2: is not because of the fact that it wouldn't do traffic.

525
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Speaker 2: Those segments would get us a lot of views. They

526
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Speaker 2: would do really good traffic. I don't think it's what's

527
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Speaker 2: best for the sport, and I would like to contribute

528
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Speaker 2: in some small way to the overall health of the sport.

529
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Speaker 2: Here's the thing about the playoff. We're gonna have so

530
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Speaker 2: much time to talk about that. We're gonna have a

531
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Speaker 2: ton of time. Even in a truncated year. We've got

532
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Speaker 2: a ton of time to talk about that. I have

533
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Speaker 2: been of the opinion, as are apparently a lot of you,

534
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Speaker 2: that there is too much attention paid on this thing

535
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Speaker 2: at the expense of the overall greater good of the sport.

536
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Speaker 2: But see, I don't view that as a playoff problem.

537
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Speaker 2: I just think the folks who cover the sport need

538
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 2: to take it upon themselves and understand there's a little

539
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 2: responsibility to contribute to the health of the sport.

540
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Speaker 1: I mean at the very core of your role.

541
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Speaker 2: I mean, you are a conduit between the product and

542
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Speaker 2: the viewer, the product and the fan, the game and

543
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Speaker 2: the fan.

544
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Speaker 1: You got to do your job better.

545
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Speaker 2: So I'm putting my money where my mouth is because

546
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Speaker 2: we don't do all the playoff stuff, and when we

547
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Speaker 2: do it, it gets a lot of views. So I mean,

548
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 2: we could up our traffic in doing that, and we

549
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:02,120
Speaker 2: still don't do it. But there's another argument. Okay for

550
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Speaker 2: those of you who raised your hand and then I

551
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Speaker 2: read all the reasons and you said, no, you didn't

552
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Speaker 2: read my reason. Your reason's probably this. Your reason is

553
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 2: probably well, it just allows the same few teams to

554
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Speaker 2: dominate the sport over and over and over again. Same

555
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 2: teams make the playoff evidence, Josh, check this out. Ohio

556
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Speaker 2: State won it in twenty fourteen, and then Bama won

557
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Speaker 2: it in twenty fifteen, and then it was Clemson, and

558
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 2: then it was Bama and then it was Clemson. And

559
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 2: it's just the same teams over and over and over again,

560
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 2: so that in and of itself is a fact. The

561
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Speaker 2: same few teams have dominated in the playoff era. So

562
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Speaker 2: I would ask you, because I totally disagree, I think

563
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 2: those are non sequitors. Causation and correlation two different things there,

564
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Speaker 2: I would ask you, how would you fix that? Because

565
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Speaker 2: if you come at me with playoff expansion, I'll beat

566
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Speaker 2: that down like a pinata. And you guys know me

567
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 2: well enough to know that by now. But how would

568
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Speaker 2: you fix that? I mean, would playoff expansion really fix that?

569
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Speaker 2: Like expanding to eight teams all of a sudden negates

570
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Speaker 2: Alabama's stranglehold on being able to lock down one.

571
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Speaker 1: Of these spots every year.

572
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Speaker 2: Truth be told, the exclusivity of the college football playoff

573
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 2: field only being it four it is probably the only

574
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Speaker 2: thing that's kept Bama out of it every single year

575
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 2: and keeps Ohio State out of it every single year.

576
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Speaker 2: And once they get in, I think you understand what

577
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Speaker 2: they do once they do get in. You understand in

578
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 2: general what the more talented rosters do once they get

579
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Speaker 2: in there and have a few weeks to get ready. Right,

580
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 2: you know that doesn't look any different, right, Okay, if

581
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 2: we're on the same page, there. But I want to

582
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 2: also offer to you the playoffs not the reason those

583
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 2: teams are dominating. The playoff just so happens to be

584
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Speaker 2: congruent to something else that's happened. A couple of things actually,

585
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 2: as far as I can tell, that have occurred, and

586
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 2: it just happens to me that the timelines have synced up.

587
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 2: Let me give you two other things, two other little

588
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 2: elephants that are in the room. Oxymoor on there. Number one.

589
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 2: As you've probably noticed, there's been a pretty sizable influx

590
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Speaker 2: of cash in this sport over the last twenty some

591
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 2: odd years. Money is a great, great contributor to the

592
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 2: gulf that is growing by the day, and the difference

593
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 2: between the haves and the have nots now.

594
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: I want you to ask yourself.

595
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 2: Is it just because these teams reside in wealthy portions

596
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,199
Speaker 2: of the United States? No, not a whole lot of

597
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 2: fortune five companies in Clemson, South Carolina, or Tuscaloose, Alabama.

598
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 2: But they care. They just care more. Here's what the

599
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 2: money did. The influx in cash gave virtual launching pads

600
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 2: and the ability to purchase launching pads to put the

601
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,880
Speaker 2: programs that are run correctly on and then they rocketed

602
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 2: into orbit. Alabama, Ohio State, Clemson's done it. George's kind

603
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 2: of sitting on the launching pad. It's a really cool

604
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 2: looking launching pad. Hadn't found the fuse yet, but don't

605
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 2: worry in due time. Oklahoma kind of the same way.

606
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 2: But you know the song and dance. You know it's

607
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,919
Speaker 2: programs we're talking about here. They were already run the

608
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 2: right way. These were already solid programs, and they were

609
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 2: in the right place and the right time found them.

610
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 2: It wasn't just a completely stupid happenstance stroke of luck.

611
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 2: That's not how that works. They were ready, and then

612
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 2: the cash allowed them to separate. Conversely, you got all

613
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 2: the money in the world at Texas, and you can't

614
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 2: take a leak without getting in front of your pants wet.

615
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 2: So the difference there is not the money. The difference

616
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,199
Speaker 2: is some places know how to run their stuff and

617
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 2: other places no.

618
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 1: The money allows you to just rock it into orbit.

619
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Speaker 2: And here's the second part, look at how offense has

620
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 2: changed in college football. Quarterback's always been the most important

621
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 2: position in the sport, at least in your in my lifetimes,

622
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 2: it has been. But understand what the quarterback position is

623
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 2: today with the evolution of offenses, the way Nick Saban

624
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,719
Speaker 2: was winning just a decade ago would get him run

625
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 2: out of the building against his own teams today. So

626
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 2: what's changed, Well, what's changed is having a good quarterback

627
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 2: used to mean you had a pretty good chance. But

628
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 2: with the way the quarterback position has been weaponized today,

629
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 2: it's like having access to nuclear missiles versus someone who doesn't.

630
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 2: You got all the keys, if you've got Trevor Lawrence,

631
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 2: or you got Justin Fields, or you got Kyle trast

632
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 2: or two a tongue of I Low or Mac jone,

633
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 2: and you've got the weapons around them, and all those

634
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 2: players want to go play at the places that have

635
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 2: the best quarterbacks. Now you see how the separation happens.

636
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 2: But my question to you, you can't disagree with any

637
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 2: of that. That's just reality. Those are facts. They stare

638
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 2: you in the face every Saturday. My question is what

639
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 2: about the playoff contributed to any of that?

640
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: That just so happens.

641
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 2: The playoff has come along in the last few years,

642
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 2: but it hasn't contributed to that. If you scrap the

643
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 2: playoff tomorrow, that stuff would still be going on. The

644
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 2: money's not going anywhere. The offensive evolution is not going anywhere.

645
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 2: In fact, it's still going in the same direction. And

646
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 2: both respectively are trending up up, up playoffs, not doing

647
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 2: any of that, contracting the playoff, expanding the playoff. It's

648
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 2: not going to change who dominates this sport. But if

649
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 2: you believe that, I'll leave you with this. If you

650
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 2: believe that there's been this unimpenetrable wall that's been built

651
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,239
Speaker 2: between the halves and the half knots, and there's this

652
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 2: exclusive club and most of us aren't allowed in it,

653
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 2: how do you explain LSU last year? They weren't one

654
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,959
Speaker 2: of those, They weren't a perennial elite. They weren't there

655
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 2: in twenty fourteen or fifteen sixteen, seventeen eight team. Then

656
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, not only did they make the

657
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 2: playoff in twenty nineteen, they won the national championship in

658
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, and some call them the best team of

659
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 2: all time. How they do it well, They invested and

660
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 2: then they hit a home run at quarterback. That's all

661
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 2: you gotta do, That's all. It's that easy. Just get

662
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 2: a generational quarterback and get full by in These things

663
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 2: sound so simple. Of course they're not. But those are

664
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 2: the differences. That's why you have the few and then

665
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 2: the many standing outside looking through the fence at the few.

666
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: It's not the playoff.

667
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 2: The playoff is this scapegoat or an escapegoat. It's that

668
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 2: straw man that's built over in the corner, because it's

669
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 2: much easier, trust me, for an administrator or a coach

670
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 2: to say it's cause of the playoff than it is

671
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 2: for them to look in the mirror and say, boy,

672
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 2: we've really screwed things up here, haven't we.

673
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: Let's move on.

674
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 2: There are some programs that are in a variety of

675
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 2: degrees of being screwed up right now. And that's why

676
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 2: this time of year, coaching searches happen, or you have

677
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 2: rumors of coaching searches.

678
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: Now.

679
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 2: Some weeks we have more news to talk about than

680
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 2: others here. A lot of times it's not news. A

681
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 2: lot of times there is nothing new to quote unquote report,

682
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 2: And if it was, this is not the place that

683
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 2: we report what we do talk about it. But I

684
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 2: just want to go around the table here and some places.

685
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 2: Not much has changed since you and I talked Tuesday night,

686
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 2: But I wanted to start at Texas, and I'm going

687
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 2: to go around the room here and we'll just talk

688
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 2: about what the latest is we've heard and what could

689
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 2: be coming this weekend on these matters. Tom Herman at Texas,

690
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 2: they had the game against Kansas that will schedule for Saturday.

691
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 2: It's canceled. It's not postponed. It's just canceled. The Longhorn

692
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 2: season is over. They may not even go to a

693
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 2: bowl game. It's going to be a choice thing, but

694
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 2: they may not go to a bowl game. You may

695
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 2: have seen the last game for Texas in twenty twenty,

696
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 2: So what now are the decision makers? Here's what I'd

697
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 2: love to know. Are the decision makers at Texas waffling

698
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 2: as much as some of the Texas folks I talk to,

699
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 2: And you know who you are, I'm not calling you

700
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 2: out by name. There's several of you who were off

701
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 2: to Tom Herman train to Kansas State and then hopped

702
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 2: right back on. Well, obviously you can't afford to be

703
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 2: doing that if you're a decision maker.

704
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: So I'm just curious, is this a game by game thing?

705
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 2: I've never believed in that about to talk about it

706
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 2: with Malsan at Auburn too. I don't believe in that.

707
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 2: Here's what I do believe. What I do believe is

708
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 2: they're not going to get Urban Meyer in all likelihood.

709
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 2: I suppose never say never. I heard his comments today.

710
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 2: I think it was on Cowherd's show. He doesn't sound

711
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 2: like he's done coaching to me. But then again, when

712
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 2: he talked to me for twenty five minutes and we

713
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 2: put it on YouTube back in the spring, I told

714
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 2: you then, I don't think he's done coaching.

715
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: So it's never sounded to me like he's done.

716
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 2: Doesn't really matter a whole lot for Texas if they

717
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 2: can't get him, though they hope he is done. If

718
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 2: they can't get him. But the question is has been

719
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 2: and continues to be. Is there a list below Urban

720
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 2: Meyer you're willing to part ways with Tom Herman? For

721
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 2: we are beating the drum and kind of beating a

722
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 2: dead horse at this point asking that. So I'm going

723
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 2: to kind of move pretty quickly through this. But if

724
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 2: there's not, if it was Urban Meyer or another year

725
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 2: of Tom Herman, boy oh boy, there was no keeping

726
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 2: the toothpaste in the tube. If you're targeting Urban Meyer,

727
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 2: it takes too much of a collective force. It takes

728
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 2: too many people to be on board to keep their

729
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 2: mouth shut. So you were gonna find out. So we

730
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 2: found out they went after urban Meyer. If they swung

731
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 2: and missed, you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube.

732
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 2: Everybody knows it. Not only does Tom Herman know it,

733
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 2: his entire staff knows it, His entire roster knows it.

734
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 2: All the personnel folks in the four walls down there

735
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 2: know it, and every major recruit knows it. How do

736
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 2: you operate with both your legs cut out from under you?

737
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 2: They were already having hard enough time in case you

738
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 2: haven't noticed, how do they operate now? Can you imagine

739
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 2: that entire environment next year? If he is indeed brought

740
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 2: back the toothpaste in the tube, Boy, it's one of

741
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 2: the most powerful metaphors out there, because you ever tried

742
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 2: to do it. Put it back in there. It's easy

743
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 2: to squeeze out. It's easy to go after urban Meyer.

744
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 2: But if he tells you know, you're gonna have to

745
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 2: borrow your buddy's toothpaste because you're not brushing your teeth

746
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 2: with all this stuff all over the place here. How

747
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 2: about Gus Malsan and Auburn. We're gonna predict their game

748
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 2: and few minutes. But Gus Malzon and Auburn, there have

749
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 2: been a lot of rumors that things have been decided there.

750
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,760
Speaker 2: Sunday morning, you will see a press release out of Auburn.

751
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,479
Speaker 2: Gus Malson's been fired. The best I can tell down there,

752
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 2: and I've grew up close to Auburn know quite a

753
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 2: few people around the program.

754
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: I don't believe that to be true.

755
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 2: When I say that, I just don't believe any decision

756
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 2: has been made there.

757
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: I don't believe one way or the other they.

758
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 2: Have come down and gavel has hit table and it's

759
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 2: just a formality at this point. I don't believe that

760
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 2: it could very well happen. I don't believe they've arrived

761
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 2: at that decision, which means if I'm right about that,

762
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 2: and if the people who I've talked to are right,

763
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 2: then it technically means minds could still be swayed if

764
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 2: there are people on the fence, If the decision itself,

765
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 2: there's riding on the fence, well, by the very nature

766
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 2: of riding a fence, you could still fall either way,

767
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 2: which leads me to wonder as ridiculous as it would

768
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 2: be eight years into someone's tenure, could four quarters of

769
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 2: football this Saturday against Mississippi State seriously be what a

770
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 2: lot lot of people are waiting to see. Again, I

771
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 2: view that wholeheartedly as ridiculous. Four years in that's ridiculous,

772
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 2: much less eight years You either know or you don't know.

773
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 2: Nothing they do is a six and a half point

774
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 2: favorite on the road at startle mississipp at the end

775
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 2: of the year in a throwaway game by a lot

776
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 2: of metrics is going to tell you anything you don't

777
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 2: already know. But nevertheless, the crazier things have happened.

778
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: So here's the.

779
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 2: Other interesting question I had posed to me by someone

780
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 2: who was speculating, you're throwing a couple names at me.

781
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 2: If there was an Auburn head coaching opening, which I

782
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 2: won't throw out here now, it would be.

783
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: Fun, but I'm not going to do that.

784
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 2: But what they ask me sort of rhetorically is think

785
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,439
Speaker 2: to yourself, could there be a candidate out there that's

786
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 2: not on the public radar that Auburn already has a

787
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,879
Speaker 2: pretty good idea they could get if they went after

788
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 2: that would be a solid upgrade from Malson. So we

789
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 2: checks all the boxes. We were going to pay that

790
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 2: buyout money. We want a solid upgrade. What if they

791
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 2: know of a name out there through back channels that

792
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 2: they could get a yes from. Maybe he isn't on

793
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 2: anyone's radar. That stuff happens. It absolutely and when you've

794
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 2: got money to throw around especially, that does happen. And

795
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 2: I don't think finance is the biggest issue, and in fact,

796
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 2: I don't think finances are an obstacle standing between Auburn

797
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 2: and making this decision at all.

798
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: But I will I will just.

799
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 2: Sort of reiterate some things that I know the folks

800
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 2: over on our Auburn Undercover dot com board I have reported,

801
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 2: and I hear the same stuff from down there when

802
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 2: I talk to people. This staff's not been a good staff.

803
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 2: The chemistry has not really been much of any this year.

804
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 2: It's it's not the most closely knit coaching staff in

805
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 2: the SEC. Sometimes you get that Alabama had that a

806
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 2: few years ago. Sometimes that just happens. Here's the problem.

807
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 2: Unlike Alabama, where Nick Saban has his pick pretty much

808
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 2: anyone he wants. Malzan sometimes people don't realize this. Look

809
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 2: at his trajectory as a coach, he really hasn't been

810
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 2: many places. And what happens when you haven't been many

811
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,800
Speaker 2: places is you don't really have an extent of network.

812
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 2: Like how many coaches does Gus Maazon really know? First off,

813
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 2: and I mean no intimately. And secondly, he even if

814
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 2: he's back next year, is understood universally to be skating

815
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 2: on thin ice with hot blades. So then you got

816
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 2: to ask yourself who wants to volunteer for that? And

817
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,240
Speaker 2: keep in mind, if we're gonna make staff changes at Auburn,

818
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 2: if Malson stays, what we're gonna make staff changes, you

819
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 2: also got to understand this, we're looking to hit home

820
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 2: runs with those hires. I mean, if Kevin Steele were

821
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 2: to move on, we're looking to bring in the next

822
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 2: Kevin Steele. You're gonna have to massively overpay a relative

823
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 2: to market value if you are going to land some

824
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 2: big names, cause no one people want stability. They want

825
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 2: financial stability, but they just want professional stability. No one

826
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 2: wants to go to a place where they know they

827
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,320
Speaker 2: may be back in the unemployment line in twelve months.

828
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,919
Speaker 2: Buy out or no buyout, no one wants to sign

829
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 2: up for that. Or at least very few people do.

830
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 2: And the other thing to note, it's been kind of

831
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 2: thrown around this week. A lot of view have observed this,

832
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 2: and I was kind of thinking along the lines with you.

833
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 2: There's been no publics. There has been no statement from

834
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 2: any athletic director Green down there, there's been no Board

835
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 2: of Trustee members talking. The president down there hasn't said

836
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 2: a word. Not that they owe it to anyone to

837
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 2: do that, but normally, you know, this kind of stuff

838
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 2: can tend to erode at recruiting. That's already nothing to

839
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 2: write home about for Auburn this year, So normally you

840
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 2: want to quiet that if it's false, and there has

841
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 2: been none of that. So if Malson is to be

842
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 2: let go after his game Saturday, which I have no

843
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 2: knowledge of, but if he is to be let go,

844
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 2: you'll probably look back and say, all the tea leaves

845
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 2: are all over the place, why didn't you notice him?

846
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 2: And the other one I want to talk about tonight

847
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,720
Speaker 2: just a second. Here is one we haven't really touched

848
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 2: on all that much, and that's justin flinte A, Virginia Tech.

849
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 2: They got a big game. We're going to talk about

850
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 2: it in a second too. They got a big game

851
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 2: against Virginia Saturday. It's the rivalry game. Obviously, it is

852
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 2: pretty widely accepted within the industry that Justin Flinte is

853
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 2: out after this year, and Virginia Tech is pretty widely

854
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 2: to be considered one of the more underrated jobs in

855
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:02,919
Speaker 2: the sport right now. Good conference, stable conference, stable infrastructure there.

856
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 2: It's a very opportune spot if you're a good recruiter

857
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 2: to put together a really good product. The game day

858
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 2: environment there is phenomenal. The fan base is very passionate,

859
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 2: you get good support, and so maybe you just don't

860
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 2: have the coach right now. So it is pretty widely

861
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 2: to almost universally thought he's out.

862
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what's funny. As I was scanning some.

863
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 2: Of our boards today, I went over to our Virginia

864
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 2: Tech board. As much as they want Gus gone on

865
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 2: the Auburn board, someone floated Gus Malson on the Virginia

866
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 2: Tech board. As far as Virginia Tech is concerned, Malson's

867
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 2: already been fired at LSU. He is now on the market,

868
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 2: and we are openly speculating despite the fact that we

869
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 2: don't have a coaching opening at Virginia Tech right now,

870
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 2: whether we hypothetically want Gus Malson at Virginia.

871
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 1: Tech, and the answer was yes, overwhelmingly.

872
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 2: Just something to keep in mind if you're down there

873
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 2: in Lee County near Auburn watching this, there are fan

874
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 2: bases out there that would love for you to toss

875
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 2: Gus on the scrap peep. So maybe he won't be

876
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,760
Speaker 2: unemployed for long. We'll see. As for Michigan and Jim Harbaugh,

877
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 2: I was going to talk about him tonight, there's nothing

878
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 2: new to talk about. It's the same old, same old.

879
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 2: Let's wait until the end of the season, which is now,

880
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 2: and then let's you know, we may be waiting more

881
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 2: for definitive conclusions on the NFL side of things, for

882
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 2: people to know if they're going to make a move

883
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,800
Speaker 2: on the NFL side of things, And therefore Jim Harbaugh

884
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 2: then knows if he's going to make a move. But

885
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 2: then again, as we documented the other night, and maybe

886
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 2: it's a moot point, maybe he plans on staying and

887
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:30,439
Speaker 2: just restructuring that deal. I think this weekend will tail

888
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 2: the tale, obviously on a whole lot of this stuff.

889
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 2: Speaking of this weekend, we got a pretty underrated slate.

890
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 2: I've said this a few times this year, but it's

891
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 2: the lead up to conference championship Saturday. There's some consequential

892
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 2: games for a number of different reasons this Saturday. So

893
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 2: let's go across the country right quick. North Carolina is

894
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 2: playing at Miami Saturday. It's a mid afternoon games, three

895
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,439
Speaker 2: thirty Eastern time on ABC. The Canes are a three

896
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 2: point favorite here. Some of you have noticed how anonymous

897
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 2: Miami feels.

898
00:40:58,600 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 1: You know, they're a top ten team.

899
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:01,879
Speaker 2: If I were to say top ten Miami, that would

900
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 2: be a factual statement. They are number ten in the

901
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 2: College Football Playoff rankings. The reason they're anonymous is cause

902
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 2: they don't really have much of a shot at the

903
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 2: College Football Playoff. They don't have any shot. They are

904
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 2: not going to go to the conference championship game, and

905
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 2: they don't really have a signature win. And they got

906
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 2: the national stage game against clubs and they got blown out,

907
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 2: and so it's just kind of been off a lot

908
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 2: of people's radar.

909
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 1: This could be a really good game, though.

910
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 2: I think these are two really good teams, not great,

911
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:25,320
Speaker 2: but really good.

912
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 1: And the Miami defense.

913
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 2: If the last time you saw North Carolina was against

914
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 2: Notre Dame. The Miami defense could very well have the

915
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 2: ability to do to North Carolina's offense. What Notre Dame

916
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 2: did made them very one dimensional. It was Sam Howell's game.

917
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 2: They couldn't run the ball for anything all afternoon or

918
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 2: all evening, and it was on Sam Howe's shoulders, couldn't

919
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 2: get it done. Notre Dame's a really good team that's

920
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,439
Speaker 2: nothing to shake a stick at, but probably a little

921
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 2: bit better pass rush here with Miami too, so you

922
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 2: can make them one dimensional. It's been done this year.

923
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 2: It could be done again. It's a weird game, though,

924
00:41:56,320 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 2: because our model really likes North Carolina. It's got the

925
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 2: Heels winning the game outright by one point, and I

926
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 2: think the balance offensively with Miami, coupled with the pass

927
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 2: rush ability and the ability to disrupt that offense and

928
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 2: potentially still make them one dimensional. I don't think North

929
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 2: Carolina will have a ton of success running the ball.

930
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 2: I just think Miami is the better team, and I

931
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 2: think that this really is their conference title game. I mean,

932
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 2: they're not going to one obviously. I think Miami is

933
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:22,919
Speaker 2: going to win. I actually think they'll win, and they'll

934
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:24,800
Speaker 2: cover the three so you give me the Canes.

935
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: There.

936
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 2: Auburn, we just talked about their six and a half

937
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 2: point favorite at Mississippi State. It's a nighttime game, seven

938
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 2: thirty Eastern Time on SEC Network. It's much bigger than

939
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 2: it appears for a couple of reasons. Number One, we

940
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 2: don't know this, but always operate under the assumption that

941
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 2: Gus Malson's jobs on the line until you've been told otherwise,

942
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 2: So that's in play. But also, I think the metered

943
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:52,800
Speaker 2: market of College Station Texas will have a vested interest

944
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 2: in this game. A and M needs Auburn to look

945
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 2: as good as they possibly can because A and M

946
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 2: needs to bolster their resume as good as they possibly can.

947
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: They just beat Auburn.

948
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,479
Speaker 2: It would very much help the Aggies cause if Auburn

949
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 2: would have end the season on a high note, this

950
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 2: is a Mauson moment. If you followed Auburn, you know

951
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 2: what I'm talking about. This is nothing new for him, Okay,

952
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,399
Speaker 2: feeling the heat, having his job on the line, that's

953
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 2: old hat for him. And it's also when he tends

954
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 2: to rise up the most and his teams. I'll give

955
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:21,959
Speaker 2: him a ton of credit. He is able to get

956
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 2: his teams to save his job for him more effectively

957
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 2: than any coach I've ever seen in my lifetime. And

958
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 2: that's what we may be on taped for this Saturday.

959
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 2: Now here's the problem. The problem is Mississippi State is

960
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 2: not impressive record wise, but they got the number three

961
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 2: rushing defense in the conference. So this is not one

962
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 2: of those tank Bigsby and company run up and down

963
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 2: the field all day. They may have some success moderately,

964
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 2: but if you've noticed since the little roster reduction, Mississippi

965
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 2: State's played some pretty inspired football. They are not ready

966
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 2: to lay down. This is not a team that's mailed

967
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 2: it in against all odds. Phil Collins reference one a week.

968
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 2: I have not mailed it in. And if you can't

969
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 2: run it consistently on them, guess what we have to have.

970
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 2: We have to have Rode bow Knicks come through for

971
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 2: Gus Malson and win them a game. I think he will,

972
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 2: but I don't think it'll be pretty. However, in the

973
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 2: end late score, maybe I think Auburn will win, and

974
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 2: I do think they'll cover, and then Malson will wipe

975
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 2: his hands and he'll put his hands on his hips

976
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 2: and he'll look over at the Auburn Board of Trustees

977
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 2: and he'll say, your move. I'm gonna be rich either

978
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 2: way your move. Georgia is a thirteen point favorite at Missouri.

979
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 2: It's an early kickoff noon window, Eastern Time on SEC Network.

980
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 2: These are important games here. This is an important game

981
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 2: for both teams. Georgia I kind of look at this

982
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 2: as twenty twenty one already for them. JT. Daniels in

983
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 2: all likelihood is back, and therefore, I mean, they're already

984
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 2: working on their offense for next year. You might as

985
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 2: well look at this as an extension of spring for them,

986
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 2: and Missouri is just working on their future entirely. I mean,

987
00:44:58,400 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 2: drink what's got there, and then you have the pan

988
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 2: and oh, by the way, you're going to play Florida

989
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 2: in Alabama. Have fun with it, get after it, boys,

990
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 2: and so there's a lot to work on. You know,

991
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 2: if you're not going to have extended bowl practice, that's

992
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 2: kind of your bowl practice period. You just happen to

993
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 2: get to play a game in the middle of it.

994
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 2: That Georgia game planning against South Carolina is probably a

995
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 2: rinse and repeat situation here. The only difference is I

996
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 2: don't think Missouri has mailed it in quite to the

997
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:20,879
Speaker 2: degree that South Carolina has.

998
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 1: You remember that South Carolina game.

999
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 2: Georgia just rand the ball, rand, the ball, Randa, ball pass, run,

1000
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 2: ball run, the ball, run the ball, run, the ball pass,

1001
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 2: and that's probably about the run to pass ratio. We'll

1002
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 2: see Saturday. A. Missouri could be drained. They could be.

1003
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 2: They were down like forty to twenty six and end

1004
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 2: up somehow winning the game against Arkansas last week. I

1005
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 2: think it was forty eight to forty seven. They could

1006
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 2: be drained. They could be. I think they'll have some

1007
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 2: fight in them this week, though this does not again,

1008
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 2: unlike South Carolina, this is not a team that with

1009
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,399
Speaker 2: nothing to play for, and so they've overcome a lot

1010
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 2: this year. You know, if you want to paint this

1011
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 2: as their Super Bowl, you get Georgia very end of

1012
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 2: the year. Georgia over there working on some things. Maybe

1013
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 2: they rise up. Jordan Davis is probably going to play

1014
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 2: Saturday for Georgia. And if he does. Saw Jake ro

1015
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 2: say this earlier today, and he's dead on the money.

1016
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 2: Jordan Davis has probably gone to the NFL after this.

1017
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 2: He is the interior defensive tackle for Georgia. If he

1018
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 2: comes back this weekend, You've got a guy when all

1019
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 2: the folks around him are opting out, not at Georgia,

1020
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 2: but in the sport, you got a guy with every

1021
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 2: reason to opt out, who has probably, if he plays Saturday,

1022
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 2: gone through rehab like a madman to get back on

1023
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 2: the field this year to play the last however many

1024
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 2: games Georgia is going to play if he starts. If

1025
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 2: he doesn't start, it's not because of lack of effort.

1026
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 2: But if he does start, if he plays Saturday, a

1027
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 2: lot of credit to Jordan Davis and the team up

1028
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:39,720
Speaker 2: there at Georgia.

1029
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 1: I've got Georgia winning this game.

1030
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 2: Our model likes Missouri to cover, though, so a little

1031
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 2: closer game maybe than you expect in these end of

1032
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 2: year type situations with overwhelmingly more talented rosters. Give me

1033
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 2: Georgia to win Missouri plus thirteen. How about Virginia the

1034
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 2: two and a half point underdog Cavaliers by the way

1035
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 2: at Virginia Tech primetime game on ACC Network, So dozens

1036
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 2: of people will be waiting to watch this one, but

1037
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 2: I'll be one of them. I don't get it. We

1038
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 2: have talked about this game all week in our best bets.

1039
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 2: I'm going to emphatically talk about it at the very

1040
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 2: end of this show coming up in just a few minutes.

1041
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 2: Virginia Tech is done, and they've been done for a

1042
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 2: little while now. We just talked about justin Fuinte. I

1043
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 2: think he also fits that description. Virginia conversely, has been

1044
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 2: playing the best ball they've played all year. And Armstrong,

1045
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 2: I think you got an edgiate quarterback first off with Virginia.

1046
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 2: I think you got a coaching edge with Virginia at quarterback.

1047
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 2: Just team wise, you know what, I'm trying to nail

1048
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 2: it down into compartments team wise. If you've watched these

1049
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 2: two teams, how do you love anything Virginia Tech's done lately?

1050
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 2: How do you hate anything Virginia's done lately? And so

1051
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 2: you know, a lot of times, and I hear this

1052
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 2: a lot people will look at this and say, well,

1053
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 2: those odds makers know something. Well, okay, be scared of them.

1054
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 2: Then be scared. But I'll tell you right now, this

1055
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:58,479
Speaker 2: model I have in front of me has hit sixty

1056
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 2: percent against spread this year in history has done very well.

1057
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 1: So I'll trust these numbers.

1058
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 2: These numbers tell me Virginia Tech's winning the game or

1059
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,439
Speaker 2: Virginia's winning the game out right Saturday. We love them

1060
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,280
Speaker 2: to win outright, So I'll take the two and a half,

1061
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 2: But just give me Virginia to win the game outright.

1062
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 2: Coaching edge, quarterback, edge, team, edge, chemistry, edge, mojo edge,

1063
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 2: a lot of edges there, and home field's not a

1064
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,800
Speaker 2: big deal this year, So give me the Cavaliers. And lastly,

1065
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 2: Southern Cal is a two and a half point favorite

1066
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 2: at UCLA seven thirty Eastern kickoff on ABC USC's four

1067
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 2: and oh. Normally that would mean, hey, getting to the

1068
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 2: midpoint of the season, Southern Cal.

1069
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: Can they remain undefeated? Still got a long way to go? No,

1070
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 1: they don't. They got one game left.

1071
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 2: This is it. You start off four and oh, and

1072
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 2: this is it Ucla. I'll give them credit to Chip Kelly.

1073
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 2: There's probably not a program out there that had more

1074
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 2: of an excuse to be terrible this year.

1075
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 1: And yet UCLA three and two.

1076
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 2: They got a couple of losses to Colorado, undefeated Oregon,

1077
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 2: one of the better teams in the Pac twelve. So

1078
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 2: Chip Kelly and the guys out there have done a

1079
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 2: really good job. They got into a building like five

1080
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 2: minutes before the season started, so they had every reason

1081
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 2: to be bad, and they've been pretty okay this year.

1082
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 2: There is a big gap, however, UCLA defensively, big gap

1083
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 2: between playing the haves and the have nots calls when

1084
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 2: they've played winning teams this year. That defense limited sample size,

1085
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 2: mind you, at defense is given up forty points per game.

1086
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,280
Speaker 1: So USC don't.

1087
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,879
Speaker 2: Like the running game, think offensively they can have enough

1088
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 2: success here. I'm gonna take Southern cal to win, and

1089
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 2: I will lay the two and a half with the Trojans.

1090
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 2: Those are our picks of the week. But now best

1091
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,320
Speaker 2: bets of the week the ram Noodle Express chugging along

1092
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 2: at fifty nine point seven percent against the number. Again

1093
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 2: round up at your convenience. We started the week and

1094
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 2: we gave you Virginia plus two and a half as

1095
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 2: our best bet. Colin had it nice and neat on

1096
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 2: the graphic there and then all right, that's all with

1097
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 2: the Cavaliers this week.

1098
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:49,399
Speaker 1: Right.

1099
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 2: But the more we went through the week, the more

1100
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 2: I said, you know what, Colin, I really like this game.

1101
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:55,879
Speaker 1: I really do.

1102
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 2: And then Ohio had their game canceled, and so I

1103
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 2: could have done a couple things. I could have gone

1104
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 2: found another game, or I could have just said, you

1105
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 2: know what we're gonna do for the first time this year,

1106
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 2: We're gonna double up. So in other words, we're gonna,

1107
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 2: I guess make it our game of the year. Don't

1108
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 2: like to turn it that way because you know it

1109
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 2: could lose, but we are doubling up on Virginia, so

1110
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 2: we're taking them twice. This will count for two games

1111
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,760
Speaker 2: for record keeping purposes, which means, for your financial purposes,

1112
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 2: bet double the amount you normally would. We're taking Virginia

1113
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 2: plus two and a half. We're taking Colorado minus one.

1114
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,839
Speaker 2: That game's been moved to Saturday. Number still stands though,

1115
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 2: Wake plus two and a half versus Louisville, and we're

1116
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:35,439
Speaker 2: gonna bet against Alabama. We're gonna take Arkansas plus thirty two.

1117
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 2: So Virginia plus two and a half, Virginia plus two

1118
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 2: and a half, Colorado minus one, Wake Forest plus two

1119
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 2: and a half, and Arkansas plus thirty two. It has

1120
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 2: been a busy week.

1121
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a fun weekend.

1122
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,879
Speaker 2: It's gonna be an action packed weekend on the field

1123
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 2: and probably off the field. There is no telling, quite

1124
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 2: literally what we could be talking about at.

1125
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 1: This very desk.

1126
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 2: Come Sunday night, make sure you're tuned in for director Colin,

1127
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 2: for producer Jordan. On the podcast side of things, I'm

1128
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 2: Josh Pate. Thanks for hanging out, Thanks for making it

1129
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 2: a record setting week for us.

1130
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: We'll see us Sunday night. Enjoy the game, saying God

1131
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 1: bless