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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.

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Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your

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Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey

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Speaker 1: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and

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Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode, we recap reality television from the

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Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in

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Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or

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Speaker 1: scripted as well. Rain drops on today's episode of Reality

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Speaker 1: with the King. This is a very, very very episode.

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Speaker 1: Is my annual Reality Star of the Year, but this

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Speaker 1: time I'm actually giving this award in person. This person

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Speaker 1: is by far the most entertained, invigorating, hilarious star power

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Speaker 1: of twenty twenty five. Without much further ado, give it

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Speaker 1: up for the Reality Star of twenty twenty five, Stacy Rushy.

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Speaker 2: I love that we're hyping each other. We're like, yay,

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Speaker 3: God, thank you so much, well deserved.

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Speaker 2: I can't even as you're giving me this intro. I

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Speaker 2: can't even believe the words that are coming out of

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Speaker 2: your mouth. This is so cool. I am so humbled

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Speaker 2: and so grateful. I'm so excited to finally meet you.

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Speaker 2: I've heard so many things about you, good things always. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I can't go trade. I'm the best thing.

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Speaker 3: Don't go too far down the rabbit hole.

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Speaker 2: But I watch you every week and I adore you.

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Speaker 2: So this feels so good. So thank you.

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Speaker 1: Where were you when you found out that you made

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Speaker 1: Carlos King's list as the number one reality star of

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Speaker 1: the year.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So my publicist sent me an email and I

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Speaker 2: read it and I didn't believe it. So I sent

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Speaker 2: her a response saying, I need more clarification. Please. Am

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Speaker 2: I one of the nominees? Am I just doing a

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Speaker 2: short video? Can you tell me exactly what I'll be doing?

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Speaker 2: When are we filming? And they're like, no, crazy. He's

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Speaker 2: saying that he wants to honor you and that you won,

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Speaker 2: and I just couldn't even believe it. I just it

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Speaker 2: just feels good to be seen, It feels good to

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Speaker 2: feel loved, and after a crazy season, it feels good

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Speaker 2: to have some positivity, you know.

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Speaker 1: Yes, let's just talk all positives. So for your award,

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Speaker 1: I bought you a gift.

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Speaker 2: You did.

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Speaker 1: I love a gift I did. Are you ready for it? Yes,

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Speaker 1: it's it's much needed allegedly.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm scared.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you're ready for it?

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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: No, So listen, I'm gonna bring it to you now.

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Speaker 2: Uh uh, what is it? You better stop playing with me.

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Speaker 3: I bought breath mint now okay, now.

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Speaker 2: You better stop right now. I need you to come

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Speaker 2: over here. Uh huh. Put that down on that table

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Speaker 2: and come over here and come and smell me. Smell

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Speaker 2: my body, Smell my smell my legs, smell it all.

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Speaker 2: Smell me, smell my hair, smell me, smell my breath.

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Speaker 2: What do you smell? Success? Okay, thank you, babe. You

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Speaker 2: are a fool. I am not gonna let a little

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Speaker 3: I love that you have up humor.

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Speaker 1: I know that team in the back is like this

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Speaker 1: actually stepped up and knocked this ship down after they you.

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Speaker 2: Were miked perfectly. They are gonna cuss to you.

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Speaker 3: God's going to come in and fix me. I'm fine

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Speaker 3: with that.

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Speaker 2: We are in so much trouble, in so much trouble.

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Speaker 1: So listen, there's so many things that I want to

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Speaker 1: talk to you about. You have set Potomac on fire,

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Speaker 1: have I No? So listen and I say this with

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Speaker 1: all sincerity, with all honesty when it comes to selecting you.

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Speaker 1: There were a lot of people, men and women days

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Speaker 1: that my team and I were going over and it

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Speaker 1: was truly undisputed when your name was mentioned, and we

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Speaker 1: kept saying, like, Okay, we we believe, we kind of

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Speaker 1: know it's her, but let's do our due diligence and

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Speaker 1: name other people and look without naming names, there were

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Speaker 1: other people from other shows or the network.

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Speaker 2: But like Angela from Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: Angela Angela Oakly from Atlanta, I love her so much.

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Speaker 2: I know she was a contender.

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Speaker 1: She was a contender, Olandria from Love Island, somebody from

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Speaker 1: Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. But you really came on

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Speaker 1: should be studied what you have done. You are a

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Speaker 1: breath pun intended of fresh air. Okay, and you're You're

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Speaker 1: You're what the doctor ordered. You are the doctor ordered.

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Speaker 1: This is a fantastic season. Shout out to the network,

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Speaker 1: to the original Lorraine leolajas the entire team as well.

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Speaker 1: But I want to get to know you first. You

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Speaker 1: and I are both from Detroit, Michigan. Yes, who was

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Speaker 1: Stacy as a little black girl in Detroit, Michigan.

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Speaker 2: You know, I think that it's really interesting that people,

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Speaker 2: including my castmates, tend to say that I'm quirky, or

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Speaker 2: I've heard that all my life. I grew up in Detroit, Michigan.

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Speaker 2: Proud of the d proud of the three one three. Yes,

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Speaker 2: my mom was a single black mom that raised me.

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Speaker 2: No help from my father. He wasn't present in my life.

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Speaker 2: I was raised a Jehovah's witness. A lot of people

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Speaker 2: you know. And so I'm saying all that to say,

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Speaker 2: I've always been raised to be resilient because I've been

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Speaker 2: viewed as someone who's a little bit different, even just

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Speaker 2: So to be in a group of women who say, Okay,

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Speaker 2: well she's not like everybody else, what's going on here?

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Speaker 2: I'm used to that, and that's why I can roll

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Speaker 1: When it comes to the relationship that you did not

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Speaker 1: have to have father growing up, Yes, did you ever

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Speaker 2: Of course no. I knew my father. I loved my father,

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Speaker 2: but he just wasn't present in the way that we

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Speaker 2: to give me so many opportunities that really have allowed

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Speaker 2: me to even be sitting here right now. You know,

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Speaker 2: She's that type of a woman, and she always taught me,

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Speaker 2: She always taught me. You know, God blessed the child

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Speaker 2: really doesn't matter what other people may think about you

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Speaker 2: you'll just find that you're able to do anything. You

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Speaker 2: that God has you and I'm used to the treatment.

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Speaker 2: So I think that you know, when we talk about

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Speaker 2: which I'm very proud of, I just think it's a

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Speaker 3: What is your relationship like now today with your father?

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Speaker 2: My father passed away. I'm sorry, thank you. Yeah, So

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Speaker 2: it's interesting. My father passed away suddenly and unexpectedly, and

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Speaker 2: And I'm sure lots of people feel that way with

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Speaker 2: actually living in Chicago. That's where I met AJ. So

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Speaker 2: love AJ. I was living in Chicago at the time

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Speaker 2: in Miami. She flew from Detroit. I flew from Chicago.

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Speaker 2: We had a week together. We held each other, we

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Speaker 2: I said, well, clearly you're not from Detroit. What are

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Speaker 2: love to see you, you know, And the rest is history.

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Speaker 2: We met in the air, we traveled to over forty

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Speaker 2: five countries together. We have a child. Her her initials

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Speaker 2: are Air because we met in the heir Arabella Isa

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Speaker 2: of me about saying Arabella. I don't know why do

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Speaker 2: people make fun of me. I think it's Arabella.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm saying it the way you say. You're the

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Speaker 3: mama Arabella Alla.

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Speaker 2: When you name your child, you better name your child

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Speaker 2: a name that you want to say over and over

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Speaker 3: I would never get tired of hearing it. That's a

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Speaker 3: beautiful yeah.

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Speaker 2: So that's how you know in it virtinly.

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Speaker 2: And I forgot to mention something on the day that

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Speaker 2: from laying my father to rest, spending time with my mother,

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Speaker 2: when I met Timo, it was actually his dad's birthday,

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Speaker 2: who has since passed. And so we always like to

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Speaker 2: say that our fathers in some way brought us together.

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Speaker 1: You know, I was going to ask you that too.

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Speaker 1: Do you think spiritually your father sent you Timo.

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Speaker 2: I think that my father wanted me to be okay,

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Speaker 2: and he wanted to make sure I was taken care of.

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Speaker 2: All fathers want there for their baby girls, right And

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Speaker 2: I think you know, he left that seat and Timo

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Speaker 1: And I I, I'm very spiritual, so am I I'm

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Speaker 1: very spirit and my spirit is telling me that Timo

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Speaker 1: was sent to you to do what your father couldn't

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Speaker 1: do or wouldn't do for you that you deserved quite possibly,

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Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? And because you got

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Speaker 1: to be married for sixteen.

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Speaker 3: Years almost eighteen, almost eighteen, well, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, well we're not married right now. Yeah, we're divorced.

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Speaker 2: Well I love shopping, No, but like that, but you

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Speaker 3: I want some water in your QBC.

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Speaker 3: You are no, you are, You're everything. You are everything.

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Speaker 1: This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.

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Speaker 1: Let's get back into the show. How did you feel

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Speaker 3: Oh my god. We just talk about it as a meme.

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Speaker 3: You're meme, Queen. Your KPC videos are like iconic.

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Speaker 3: How did you become a real housewife? A Potomac.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing.

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00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 3: Were you a fan of Potomac before joining?

436
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 2: Absolutely? I watched Potomac at the beginning stages when it

437
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 2: first came on, I was like super excited because it

438
00:25:58,359 --> 00:25:59,880
Speaker 2: was like in the DMV, you know what I mean.

439
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,120
Speaker 2: I fell off a little bit.

440
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 3: As when you first watched her, tell me the beginning years.

441
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:05,679
Speaker 3: Who's your favorite?

442
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 2: Definitely Karen. I thought she was hilarious. I also liked Katie.

443
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 3: Katie's fun.

444
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,479
Speaker 2: Katie is amazing and I wish the best for her.

445
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 2: I've heard a lot of things about her. I've never

446
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 2: met her, but I do like her. I remember watching her,

447
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 2: and I've spoken to a lot of the other cast

448
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 2: mates about her, and I think it's safe to say

449
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 2: that we all wish her well.

450
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 3: Yeah.

451
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

452
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 3: What was her thoughts on Giselle watching the earlier season.

453
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 2: She's the same person that she is right now, which

454
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 2: is what pretty and Petty. What has changed in ten years?

455
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 2: She's the same person.

456
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 3: You don't think Jazilla has grown in ten years being

457
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 3: on the show?

458
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 2: No, because it's allowed clearly.

459
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:02,400
Speaker 1: Well you'll give it, okay those girls. Would you give

460
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: Jozelle this that she knows how to get the party started? Yes?

461
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 2: Absolutely? In terms of stirring the pot, yes, yes, I

462
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 2: will give that to her hands down. Yes.

463
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 3: Is Gizelle needed for a Potomac?

464
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 2: Yes, of course I am. I am respectful and Giselle,

465
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 2: Karen and I can't even believe my lips are going

466
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 2: to form and say this, But because I'm honest and

467
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,679
Speaker 2: God is watching, I'm going to say this, even Ashley Darby.

468
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 2: These are women who have been the anchor of Potomac

469
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 2: for over a decade, and to say that they aren't

470
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 2: needed or you know, they don't have relevancy is preposterous.

471
00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 2: You know, I give respect respect is.

472
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 3: Who do you think is not needed on Potomac anymore?

473
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 2: Who's not needed? I wouldn't say that anyone is not needed.

474
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,719
Speaker 2: I think that And honestly, what drew me to Potomac

475
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 2: was I loved the the the ability to join a

476
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 2: cast that represents affluent African American women in our nation's

477
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 2: capital with beautiful, diverse lives and so, you know, everyone

478
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 2: may not be my cup of tea, but I can

479
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 2: appreciate the diversity of our cast and everyone having their

480
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 2: own story.

481
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 3: Were you ever a passion girl?

482
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: No?

483
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 2: Imagine girl, Why do you say that? I mean, you know,

484
00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 2: that was a good answer. I mean, I mean, and

485
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 2: that's how I mean.

486
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 3: That's good. That's good. That's good.

487
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think that's pretty accurate.

488
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 3: Good, good, good.

489
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about this season that

490
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: is on fire. A lot of people, and I'm sure

491
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: you read the tweets, a lot of people are saying

492
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: this is Potomac's comeback season. Really, they're loving this season

493
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 1: and they feel like this season is funny, and they

494
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 1: give you a lot of credit to that. One of

495
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 1: the things that we have been seeing this season is,

496
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 1: you know, people are saying that they feel like the

497
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,719
Speaker 1: girls are not being nice to you.

498
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 3: They feel like they're ganging up on.

499
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 2: You because they have eyes yes okay, and ears okay okay.

500
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: When you reflect back on your experience this season and

501
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: even watching the episodes, why do you think the audience

502
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 1: is walking away thinking like why is everybody ganging up

503
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: on Stacy?

504
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 3: And do you feel like you're being hazed? Still?

505
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 2: Yes? And yes, I think you know, the season was

506
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 2: very difficult for me. I would come home and say,

507
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 2: am I crazy? What's really going on? You know, you

508
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 2: have to like think about yourself and the words that

509
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 2: you have chosen and the actions that you have you

510
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 2: know made, And I'm trying to figure out like what

511
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 2: is really good? Like why am I rubbing everyone the

512
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 2: wrong way? And I really couldn't come up with an answer.

513
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 2: And so I think, you know, a lot of times

514
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 2: with women, sometimes when we see characteristics and other women

515
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 2: that we want, it can be intimidating and so we

516
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 2: lash out. And I think that for some people on

517
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 2: the cast that is the case. You know, you tend

518
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 2: to hate on the qualities you wish you had.

519
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 3: Who do you think is your biggest hater on the show?

520
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 2: Definitely Ashley and Kay. Ashley is if you and I

521
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 2: feel differently about both women. With Ashley, it's expected she's

522
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 2: I've said that many times. So my expectations are very

523
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 2: low because you know, you got to recognize the devil,

524
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 2: but don't let the devil change you. So I know

525
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 2: what I'm working with with, you know, with Ashley, now

526
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 2: with ka I just didn't understand what was the problem.

527
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 2: I just have never had someone have such a visceral, aggressive,

528
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 2: negative reaction to me, and I've never done anything to them.

529
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 2: It was bizarre and a little unhinged.

530
00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: Quite honestly, the audience feels like Keana is using you

531
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: for a storyline, using you to remain relevant. A lot

532
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: of them feel like she is a dog with the

533
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: bone this season that because the flute was dangling like

534
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: a carrot between her and Jazzy and she got it.

535
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: The audience feels like kk will do whatever it takes

536
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: to stay on the show, and making you her arch

537
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: nemesis is what she feels like she has to do.

538
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: Would you would you say there's any truth to any

539
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: of those things.

540
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 2: I really don't know what her problem is. I mean,

541
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 2: we could sit here and psychoanalyze all afternoon, and I'm

542
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 2: gonna need some champagne because I really don't understand what

543
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 2: it is. Honestly, I really will never understand it. And

544
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 2: it's really sad because you know, I don't even know

545
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 2: if I should be saying this. But last season, when

546
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 2: it was made known to me that Kay would in

547
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 2: fact be a housewife and Jesse would be a friend.

548
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 2: I immediately called Kay and I said, Kay, Oh my god,

549
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 2: I am so happy for you. She said, Stacy, I

550
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 2: can't believe you would call me. I said, I know

551
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 2: what this means to you. I said, now you know,

552
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 2: Jesse is my friend, that is my girl. But I

553
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 2: think you are beautiful. I think you have something unique

554
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 2: to bring to this cast, and I'm happy for you.

555
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 2: So I just wanted to call and say congratulations. I

556
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 2: cheered for her, and then to see her treat me

557
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 2: the way that she has treated me is just I'll

558
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 2: never be able to explain it. It's very strange.

559
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 3: Do you think.

560
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: They made the wrong decision choosing K to be a

561
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: housewife and not Jazzy.

562
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 2: I stand by the decisions that production makes and casting makes. Listen,

563
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do my job with whoever they choose.

564
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 3: Okay, would you like Jazzi to be a housewife?

565
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 2: I think that they made the right decisions this season.

566
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 1: Did you try to kill K with cheese?

567
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 2: You know, somebody hates you if you order cheese and

568
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 2: they have a problem. Okay, if you order food for

569
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 2: yourself and someone has a problem. Come on now, like

570
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,479
Speaker 2: you guys seriously, Like I'm a pescatarian. I don't eat meat.

571
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 2: I don't eat chicken. Do you know how many meals

572
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 2: I sit at on a nightly basis where my family's

573
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 2: eating meat, my friends are eating steaks. Do I say,

574
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 2: Oh my god, are you trying to poison me?

575
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:07,280
Speaker 3: Like girl?

576
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 2: And then like I saw something the other day and

577
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 2: she was saying, I think it was was it watch

578
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 2: what Happens Live? Maybe it was Watch what Happens Live

579
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 2: on Sunday? It was, And she was saying that she

580
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 2: thinks I'm performative. I think I'm reactive. You've come for

581
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 2: me over and over again because you thought I was

582
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 2: an easy target and I've answered you to your face

583
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 2: and in confessionals. Okay, don't be mad because I'm doing

584
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 2: me better than you're doing you.

585
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, As I watched a few episodes ago and

586
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 1: it's this meme that's gone across the world where you

587
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: know Kay and you are having a one off and

588
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: she says that you're jealous of her, and you said, girl,

589
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 1: of what she goes my life, my thing, my condo,

590
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: my bad everything. What do you have my picture frame.

591
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: Is it Tiffany's or CBS.

592
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 2: I wish it was Tiffany. That would have made it better.

593
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 3: And you said, I have a husband something you don't.

594
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 3: I have a ring something you do not.

595
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 1: When it comes to case relationship with Greg, do you

596
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: think Greg will ever put a ring on it?

597
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know, and I think that

598
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:47,280
Speaker 2: I've been married for many years, divorced and back together

599
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 2: with my ex husband, so I know a thing or

600
00:36:49,160 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 2: two about love. You want your partner to want you mmm.

601
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:14,760
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm mmmmmmm mm hmm yep, okay, wow, yeah, lovely, Okay.

602
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 3: I want to shift gears a bit too. I am

603
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 3: in so much trouble.

604
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,879
Speaker 2: This is probably calling my pone and he's calling He's

605
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,879
Speaker 2: like you are saying, whoa that much?

606
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 3: How did you feel those?

607
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: Because I did watch watch what I did watch Watch

608
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: What Happens Live when KK was on it with doctor Simone.

609
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 2: I love doctor Simone everything. She is so wonderful. I

610
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 2: love her. I met her at Watch What Happens Live,

611
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 2: and then I also spent time with her at Bravocan

612
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 2: and I met so many girls from Atlanta at bravocon

613
00:37:58,280 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 2: and I fanned.

614
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 3: Was your favorite Lanta Housewives.

615
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,280
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm in love with Porsha.

616
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's so beautiful.

617
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 2: She was like, come here, girl, I'm gonna tell you

618
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 2: how you gonna win this show. She was like, come

619
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 2: your girl, I got to and I was like, yes, dude,

620
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 2: you get that so cute? You love her?

621
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,879
Speaker 3: Do you get the Kenyamore comparisons a lot?

622
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 2: Oh my god, yes, yes I do. Have you met

623
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:24,879
Speaker 2: I haven't met Kenya Moore?

624
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 3: Have got the end?

625
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 2: No, I've never met her. I've never had the opportunity

626
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 2: to speak to her. I adore her. She's a queen.

627
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 2: She is someone who represents so much to me as

628
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 2: a black girl being raised in Detroit. She is top tier.

629
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 2: You know, we all go through the highs and lows

630
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 2: and our lives and our careers. But I stand by

631
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 2: her and I adore her, and I love the opportunity

632
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 2: to meet her. I think we have a lot in common.

633
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 3: No, I think so too. I mean she's one of

634
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 3: my friends. So as I'm looking at, well.

635
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:07,399
Speaker 1: You need.

636
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 2: You need to get us together.

637
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 3: Oh, well she's at the bier right now. Child, But

638
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,399
Speaker 3: you know I'll figure something out. Sorry, can't you told

639
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 3: your business but.

640
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 2: On Instagram she's so beautiful. I love her.

641
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 1: You know a lot of people I am people. You know,

642
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 1: we gave me a thoron. Well I did the I

643
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: coined the phrase Mia b Lyon.

644
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 3: Yes, right, yeah, have you heard from me recently?

645
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 2: I have not checked in with her, and I was

646
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 2: sad to see her unfortunate mishap.

647
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 3: With the law. Do you believe she sold furniture?

648
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 2: I there is nothing excuse me, as crazy as Mia is,

649
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 2: there is nothing about her person that would make me

650
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 2: think she was a thief. No, okay, no, so, and

651
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 2: I don't you know, laugh at other people's misfortunes. So

652
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 2: for sure.

653
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 3: Yeah. I checked in with her. She's doing good? Is

654
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 3: she okay? Second checked them with that.

655
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 2: I'm not.

656
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 3: Yeah. People call you Stacy be lying. They do, Yes,

657
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 3: they see me, No, they do not.

658
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 1: I am.

659
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 2: I am all over Twitter laughing at the comments. Oh

660
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 2: my goodness, people roast me. It is so funny. I

661
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 2: laughed so hard. I literally laugh until I'm crying, and

662
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 2: I call my friends and then they laugh with me.

663
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 3: So you don't mind the negative comments?

664
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 2: No, it's hilarious.

665
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 3: Are you kidding me?

666
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 2: No?

667
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 3: As the King of reality television, I can assure you. Listen.

668
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: Angel wrote me a comment with me Dustin and Claudia

669
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: Dustin Ross, a fellow Michigander Love Dustin say some things

670
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 1: about Angel based on the show, which is which is

671
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 1: our job as content hosts and creators.

672
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:01,399
Speaker 3: Who watches the show.

673
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: Rihanna commented on my video you saw that, So of

674
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,240
Speaker 1: course I'm like Queen Rihanna.

675
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 3: And listen, I don't care if it's good, bad, or

676
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 3: and different.

677
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 2: Rianna talks about it, We're gonna acknowledge it. We're gonna

678
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 2: acknowledge it absolutely.

679
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: But Angel said for me to be so boring, you

680
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: guys spend every week talking about me, And I was like, well, Angel,

681
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 1: I don't know.

682
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,439
Speaker 3: You like, we're talking about the show, and I'm gonna

683
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 3: have fun. It's a fun gig.

684
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 2: So I think that Angel, quite honestly, is at the

685
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 2: point where I was when I had to kick Tiya

686
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 2: out of my event. I think that you can only

687
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 2: take so much and then you kind of say is

688
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 2: it enough? Is enough? And I think that maybe that's

689
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 2: where Angel is right now. I think Angel is very

690
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 2: much aware of what people are saying about her. Everyone

691
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 2: has their opinion, and I think that she's reacting to that,

692
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 2: and that was how I felt about Tia. You know,

693
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 2: it was so difficult for me because you know, and

694
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 2: I was talking about your girl Claudia earlier and her

695
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 2: comments about Timo. We can table that, but I think

696
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 2: it's quite obvious that Timo is appearing for me because

697
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 2: he loves his wife. And for me to allow Tia

698
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 2: to come and spend time with Timo and my daughter

699
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 2: and my daughter's friends, to invite her in to get

700
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 2: to know me, you know, everyone's like, you know, we

701
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 2: don't get to know the real you. We don't know

702
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 2: anything about you. So I actually invited someone into my

703
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 2: circle and they used that opportunity, or I should say

704
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 2: Tia used that opportunity to do like recognissance and like

705
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 2: do fact checks to bring it back to the group

706
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 2: and then start to mess with Wendy and then come

707
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 2: to my event and disrespect me and tell me to

708
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 2: shut up on my day. You're eating the sandwich that

709
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 2: I paid for at this celebration for me and my brand,

710
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 2: and you have the nerve to be so duplicitous and

711
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 2: to be so disrespectful. I think I was just tired

712
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 2: of so many people ganging up on me and someone

713
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 2: who I actually thought was level headed and neutral to

714
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 2: see them join the bandwagon. I had had enough, and

715
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 2: I feel like Angel is at that point.

716
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 3: When it comes to Angel. Do you think what? Okay?

717
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: I think Angel is. First of all, I think she's

718
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 1: a beautiful woman. I think she's so beautiful.

719
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 2: Face tune or not, face till to night.

720
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 3: Listen, we all do a little face tuned filter.

721
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 2: Life, so face tuned.

722
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 3: So I had her back, but this is let the

723
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:01,879
Speaker 3: record reflect, Yes, we all it's fun.

724
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 1: So listen, I have her back on the show, on

725
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: my show when I said, okay, Gazelle stop and I

726
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: love me some Gazelle, I'm okayja Zel the catfish thig,

727
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: I'll be it funny listen.

728
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:13,760
Speaker 3: Who cares?

729
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 2: Right?

730
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 1: But I do feel like Angel has this delayed reaction

731
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,720
Speaker 1: when it comes to people coming for her and misdirected anger.

732
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: I do not, till this day understand why Angel is

733
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: so pressed when it comes to Wendy when I feel

734
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: like Gizelle is the one coming for you every chance

735
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: she gets, because that's Giselle's job. But you, for some reason,

736
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: are going down the Highway express Lane HOV Lane with

737
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 1: Bobby and you're coming for doctor Wendy. When I feel like,

738
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: do a U turn and go back to Suzel on

739
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: the street where the word is that and get her

740
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 1: her lashings make it make sense, I don't, so.

741
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 3: I don't, but take elate to me they are.

742
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 2: I sat in disbelief as viewers sit in disbelief watching it.

743
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 2: I don't understand. And I think that you know, people

744
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 2: may call me performative or you know whatever. I think

745
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 2: that one thing that you can say about me is

746
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,399
Speaker 2: that I am authentic in the moment. I say how

747
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 2: I feel in the moment, whether you agree or not,

748
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 2: whether you think it's a lie or the truth, I

749
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 2: say how I feel. I think it's a disservice to

750
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 2: Angel to not say something, go home and think about it,

751
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 2: consult with her husband, take notes, and then come back

752
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 2: and address it when we've already moved beyond that issue.

753
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 2: That's just my opinion.

754
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 3: It's a fact. As I agree with you, do you

755
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:53,240
Speaker 3: really believe be who.

756
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 2: You are in the moment, even if that's not perfect,

757
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 2: even if it's not right. I've said things that you know,

758
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 2: I was like, well, maybe I shouldn't have said that,

759
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 2: or why didn't I say this or what about this?

760
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,439
Speaker 2: We're human beings. You can only be yourself and say

761
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 2: how you feel. But you can't sit on things and

762
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 2: think about it and form a reaction and then make

763
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 2: us backtrack. We are moving on. You know how many

764
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 2: people are on the cast. You know how many things

765
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 2: we have to talk about, and how many celebrations and

766
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:25,320
Speaker 2: dates and lunches and family parties we got to go

767
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 2: to and get this season done.

768
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 3: Girl, we have moved on, you know.

769
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:34,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I hate that for her, but maybe that's

770
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 2: what her spirit calls for.

771
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: You know.

772
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 2: I don't want to knock anybody. That's never my Yes,

773
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 2: I'm just saying from my point of view, I would

774
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 2: rather speak your truth in the moment, whatever truth it

775
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 2: is for you, speak it and be done with it.

776
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 2: But you can't sit on it.

777
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 3: Do you think she moved to Potomac to be on

778
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 3: the show?

779
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: You know?

780
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 2: I think that making the commitment to be on this

781
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 2: show is really big, and people underestimate what that entails,

782
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 2: especially when you have a family with two young children.

783
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 2: So I think Angel made the best decisions for her

784
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 2: family that she could at the time.

785
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 1: You are really good, Rob, will give us one a

786
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: show crisis management. Tia is their room for you and

787
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: Tia to ever become friends.

788
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 2: I think that time will tell. Okay, I'm disappointed that

789
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 2: Tia jumped on that hate Stacy train. I'm disappointed with

790
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 2: the way that she treated my family. I'm disappointed with

791
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 2: the way that she treated me at the Bloomball and

792
00:47:56,080 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 2: at my launch. But we all make rookie mistakes.

793
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about your friendship with

794
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: doctor Wendy. Yes, we love the two of you together.

795
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:10,359
Speaker 2: Are fun.

796
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:11,439
Speaker 3: You guys are fun.

797
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: And the fact that I saw a picture you posted

798
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 1: last week, you guys were hanging out without getting too

799
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 1: much in the weeds of it.

800
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 2: Can you imagine that we met for lunch and we

801
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 2: were both wearing black and we both had dark hair

802
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:28,320
Speaker 2: with blonde highlights. And what's crazy is Wendy and I

803
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 2: every time we see each other when we're filming, we're like, girl,

804
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 2: don't wear black. You know we love color. Color loves us.

805
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 2: We always wear bright colors. So for us to both

806
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 2: show up at lunch and all black everything with the

807
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 2: same hair, we were like laughing, you can't make it up.

808
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:45,320
Speaker 2: I love so crazy.

809
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: I think listen, I've been around doctor Wendy. She is

810
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 1: beautiful inside and out. She is We all know what's

811
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 1: been going on lately in the press. What can you

812
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:56,919
Speaker 1: say to us in terms of how she is doing

813
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:57,359
Speaker 1: right now?

814
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 2: I think that every time I speak to Wendy, whether

815
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 2: we're talking about the show, whether we're talking about our children,

816
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 2: whether we're talking about the holiday season or shopping, whatever

817
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:22,760
Speaker 2: we're talking about, I see in her a deep connection

818
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 2: to her faith and a reliance on her faith during

819
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 2: this time. And I love to see that. She talks

820
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 2: a lot about her faith and relying on God. And

821
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 2: I think that that's paramount above all this, above the lights,

822
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:46,240
Speaker 2: above the show, about, above the charges, above the girls,

823
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 2: is your faith and your soul. And I think that

824
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 2: I feel comfortable enough to say that every time I

825
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 2: talk with her. I'm so proud of her and her

826
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:58,399
Speaker 2: connection to God.

827
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, she's very spiritual person.

828
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 1: She is.

829
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 3: Oh yeah. Would you say, of all the girls on

830
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:06,359
Speaker 3: the cast, you're the closest to her.

831
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, I'm definitely the closest to Wendy right now. Yes.

832
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: When it comes to your cannabis line, yes, I mean, Stacey,

833
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: you did say last season you weren't doing it and

834
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 1: come to find out you are.

835
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 2: I wasn't doing it when it was asked of me.

836
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 3: Say you had no conversations about it.

837
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 2: Listen, I'm living ploughs. You of all people, know that

838
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 2: when we are talking about deals and contracts and money,

839
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 2: you don't talk about things until they are a thing.

840
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 2: So when I talked about my brand was when I

841
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 2: needed to talk about it. And I don't care who

842
00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 2: asks me about it, or who challenges me, or who

843
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 2: tries to one up me or be premature and announce something.

844
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:09,359
Speaker 2: I really don't care. You gotta play chess, baby? Are

845
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 2: you kidding me? I announced it when it launched, because

846
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 2: that's when it launched. Facts.

847
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 3: You can't argue that. I can't argue that, and listen.

848
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 2: And I have offered to give I have offered to

849
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 2: show Wendy contracts, dates, conversations to prove that I did

850
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 2: not have my brand. It was not formed when we

851
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:44,399
Speaker 2: shot the reunion in New York in January of last year.

852
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 2: I've offered it to the girls. I've offered it to Wendy.

853
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,399
Speaker 2: Nobody wants to see it, of course they don't.

854
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:53,439
Speaker 3: Have you heard from TJ?

855
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 1: No?

856
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 3: Do you miss your best friend?

857
00:51:59,360 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 1: No?

858
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 2: I think it's very clear that he wasn't my best friend. Right.

859
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 3: Does it make you sad when you think about it?

860
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 2: It doesn't make me sad. I think, you know, honestly,

861
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 2: I think to have the kind of faith that I

862
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 2: have and that God has me in any circumstance. When

863
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 2: I am at the top of my game and the

864
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 2: world loves me, and when I am at the bottom

865
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 2: of the barrel and I want to hide my head

866
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 2: because I'm embarrassed and I can't believe I've been betrayed,

867
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 2: under any circumstance.

868
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 3: God has me.

869
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 2: And when you know that, you can revisit moments in

870
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 2: your life we're awful things have happened to you and realize, yes,

871
00:52:55,440 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 2: it hurt, Yes, it was unbelievable in the moment. It

872
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:05,280
Speaker 2: hurt you physically, it hurt you emotionally, it hurt you mentally,

873
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 2: But it was for a reason. Everything happens to us.

874
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 2: It's all in divine timing. It happens for a reason.

875
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 2: If that didn't happen to me, maybe I wouldn't know

876
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 2: how strong I am right now? Right who knows? So

877
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 2: under any circumstance, I have faith that God has my back,

878
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 2: So I don't look at things that happened to me.

879
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 2: And of course there are things that happen that I'm

880
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 2: sad about. You know, there's a I'm you know, yeah,

881
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 2: But in these circumstances, you know, I learned something about myself.

882
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 2: I learned that I'm stronger than I thought that I am.

883
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 2: And I also learned to be you know, I'm a

884
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 2: very open, organic, sort of you know, free spirit, and

885
00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:02,919
Speaker 2: I love people and I trust people. And I think

886
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 2: that God taught me to be a little bit to

887
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 2: hold myself a little closer, and to be a little

888
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 2: bit more aware of my circle and who I let

889
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,479
Speaker 2: into my life. I think there was a lesson there.

890
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:19,439
Speaker 2: I think there was a lesson there on how when

891
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 2: people try to diminish you, how it's impossible when you

892
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 2: can't be diminished. Right. So I think I just I

893
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 2: learned so many valuable lessons, albeit painful lessons. So I don't.

894
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 2: I don't think of it in that way. I don't.

895
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 2: I'm not sad. My life is too full and too

896
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 2: beautiful to be sad. That's ridiculous. What do I have

897
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 2: to be sad about? Look at me, I'm sitting here

898
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:50,280
Speaker 2: with you. My daughter's at school. She had a beautiful

899
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 2: tenth birthday party. I'm going to Africa on Friday. My god,

900
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:58,840
Speaker 2: the show's doing well. I mean, the face is facing.

901
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 2: What in the world could I be sad about? That's

902
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:08,280
Speaker 2: that's preposterous. My life is too beautiful to be sad.

903
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:10,959
Speaker 2: I refuse to be sad.

904
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 3: That's good. That's good. That's good. To more questions that

905
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 3: we're gonna go.

906
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 1: Chris Samuels was a big topic of conversation this season.

907
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 1: You hung out with him, the shady iPhone camera producer,

908
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 1: you know, in the ceiling being Spider Man.

909
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 3: Capture the moment of you talking about it, did that

910
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 3: gag you?

911
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 2: You was like, well, I am literally still a rookie

912
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 2: because I didn't know these cameras were on. I thought

913
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:47,359
Speaker 2: we stopped filming. Let me tell you, I had taken

914
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 2: off my lashes, taking off my lipstick. We were calling

915
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:58,320
Speaker 2: it a night. Oh my god, these reducers vicious.

916
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 3: You're always a I know that. So I'm talking about.

917
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:04,919
Speaker 2: Other people making rookie mistakes, and clearly I am still

918
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 2: a rookie.

919
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 1: You know.

920
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 2: I didn't know that that was captured. So when I

921
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 2: saw it online, I was like, well, Damn.

922
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 3: I'm not even.

923
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:25,320
Speaker 2: But I said what I said.

924
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 1: Okay, So for the record, you and Chris Samuel's did

925
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 1: y'all go out on two dates?

926
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 2: There?

927
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 3: Just two dates? Those two You are so crazy?

928
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 2: Did we go on two dates?

929
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 3: That's my undertad.

930
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 2: We didn't go on any dates.

931
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 3: Y'all had a one on one?

932
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 1: Man?

933
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:46,280
Speaker 2: Did we have a one on one? Carlos?

934
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 3: I saw the pot?

935
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 2: What do you mean the photo? What photo did you see?

936
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 3: That's a picture of you and him sitting got a

937
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 3: table at a corner.

938
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 2: A long table of twenty five people. I saw a

939
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 2: picture of us at the end of the table.

940
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 1: Is that what you saw? I didn't see the whe shot.

941
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 1: The picture I saw was the one they showed up

942
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 1: the TV.

943
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,720
Speaker 2: So I'm sitting at a table of twenty five people

944
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 2: and that means I'm dating someone. Is that what you're saying?

945
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't see the WI shot.

946
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 2: They did showed the elongated Of course they didn't.

947
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 1: So was Chris Samuel's ever flirty with you? Because I

948
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 1: did see the text messages.

949
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 3: I watched the show.

950
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 2: Why didn't you guys want him to?

951
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, no, I watched the show.

952
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 1: He you but dude, you've read the text. You He said, Hi,

953
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 1: you look beautiful because you saw the magazine cover.

954
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 2: Of Arabella and I yeah, Lifeele magazine.

955
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 3: And you ignored him.

956
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 1: And he said hi, and you ignored him again, and

957
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 1: then he heard word on the street was that you

958
00:57:56,760 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 1: guys were talking about him on camera and he text

959
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 1: that you again.

960
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 2: Even with all that, that doesn't mean that he's not

961
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 2: a nice guy. I don't have anything bad to say

962
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 2: about Chris. No, no, it wasn't bad, and I'm not

963
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 2: gonna ever say like I feel like I'm never gonna

964
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 2: say anything bad about him. He was a nice person,

965
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 2: very respectful. Of course. You know, you know how small

966
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 2: this area is when we talk about our circle of

967
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 2: people with us, it is what it is.

968
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 3: Was he attracted to you? I think you would have

969
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 3: to ask Chris, did he ever ask you out a date?

970
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 2: What do you mean?

971
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 3: Do he ever say Hi, I would like to take

972
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 3: you out to dinner or dreak?

973
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 2: He's never said that. No, no, okay, no, he's never

974
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 2: asked me that question.

975
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 3: No, okay, okay. Have you heard from him recently?

976
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 2: You know, I pride myself on my friendships, so I

977
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 2: think that if there are any questions that you want

978
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 2: to ask Chris about me? You should probably ask Chris.

979
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 3: That's fair. Can I ask Cookie? Because Cookie knows everything?

980
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 2: What What did I do to deserve that? What did

981
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 2: I do? Carlos? Can you make? Can you just tell me?

982
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 1: Like?

983
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 3: What did I do?

984
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 2: I showed up in a beautiful dress. I came to

985
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 2: support Giselle and non existent Robin Like, how are you

986
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 2: not at your own party?

987
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 3: Okay?

988
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 2: They you know, Gizelle just gets away with anything. Gizelle

989
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 2: gets away with not having a man on the show,

990
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 2: then being exposed for dating someone yet going and filming

991
00:59:55,640 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 2: an entire dating show called The Love Hotel when you're

992
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 2: actually dating someone. Here in the DMV, no one says anything.

993
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 2: I'm the only one that says something. Gizelle has an

994
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 2: event to celebrate her business, her business partner isn't there,

995
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 2: and we just accept that. Like, really, Giselle says I

996
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 2: shouldn't be trusted around women, or what did she say?

997
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 2: I shouldn't be trusted around? Gizelle says I shouldn't be

998
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 2: trusted around husbands or children, and her bestie is out

999
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 2: here kissing her friend's son. Really, Gizelle, Oh, I almost

1000
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 2: thrip in my mouth a little bit when Ashley admitted

1001
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 2: that I would have taken that to my great are

1002
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 2: the picking so slim? You dating your friend's son?

1003
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 1: Oo?

1004
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 2: Glad? I'm not single. Streets are rough. The streets are rough.

1005
01:00:58,200 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 2: What are you doing.

1006
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 3: Well, Stacy? In conclusion, as we celebrate you being more?

1007
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 2: Are is it over? Are list?

1008
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 3: I can talk to you all da.

1009
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 2: Why are we stopping because I think we should go

1010
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 2: have lunch.

1011
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 3: I mean I have a flight to cash Mo. We

1012
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 3: can figure things out.

1013
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 2: I want to come with you.

1014
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 3: I flew in just for you.

1015
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 1: You did.

1016
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I flew in today. Oh my god, my flight

1017
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 3: leaned at f and it'll least.

1018
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 2: Thank you for flying in for me. Listen for inviting

1019
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 2: me and acknowledging me. I'm so happy to meet you.

1020
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1021
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 3: I listen. I'm happy to meet you. I want to.

1022
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 1: I want to say this to you as somebody who

1023
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 1: did season one, episode one of the Real Housewives of

1024
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 1: Atlanta in two thousand and eight. Okay, also did Jersey

1025
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 1: two thousand and nine to season one, episode one. Anyway,

1026
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 1: With all that being said, come, among other things, Hi,

1027
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 1: thank you. Okay, Now with that being said, I do

1028
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 1: want to say this to you. You have the I

1029
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 1: and the T and one of the main reasons we

1030
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:12,920
Speaker 1: all love you is because you are organically you.

1031
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1032
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 1: You are authentic. You're not trying to be the moment

1033
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 1: you really you really show up and you're just you

1034
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 1: and that's why the audience loves you. It's the reason

1035
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 1: why you are the most celebrated reality star of this year,

1036
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 1: not only on this podcast, but for the world at large.

1037
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:44,960
Speaker 1: You were featured in Vanity Fair, Halle Berry is reposting you.

1038
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 1: You're on Drew Barrymore Show.

1039
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean? Like, these aren't things

1040
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 3: that just comes to everybody. It doesn't. And I've seen

1041
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 3: many girls. I've seen many girls.

1042
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:04,960
Speaker 1: Who want that sort of recognition and they unfortunately do

1043
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 1: things that are seen as thirsty to attain it.

1044
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 3: So I applaud you for being authentically you. And my

1045
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 3: advice to you is this. My advice to you is this.

1046
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 2: Okay, I know y'all think I don't have ears.

1047
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, I'm gonna give you this. Carlos

1048
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 1: King's advice is this, Okay, you have a lot of potential. Okay,

1049
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 1: don't believe the hype, but enjoy it.

1050
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 3: There's a difference.

1051
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:37,440
Speaker 1: It's sort of like when you're on a roller coaster

1052
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 1: and you're enjoying the moment of the highs and the

1053
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 1: lows in those quick twenty seconds or whatever, but you

1054
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 1: don't believe that, oh, well, that's gonna be something that

1055
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 1: I can experience. You know, every time I'm on a

1056
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 1: roller coaster an amusement park, you're you're in the moment.

1057
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 1: So I do not want you to be somebody who

1058
01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 1: makes the mistake of, you know, feeling themselves and thinking like, oh,

1059
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 1: I'm beloved and I'm this and then it goes away,

1060
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 1: because it goes away. God will humble you if you

1061
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 1: take your blessings for granted.

1062
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 3: And God will.

1063
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 1: Humble you when you think it's all about you, when

1064
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 1: you think it's all about you, and you have so

1065
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 1: much potential to go very, very very far in this business.

1066
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 1: And I am honored that you have said yes to

1067
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 1: being on this podcast. I don't take that for granted.

1068
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 1: And I want you to know, as a fellow Michigander,

1069
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 1: the entire city of Detroit, we are proud of you, and.

1070
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 3: We are very proud of you.

1071
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 1: And continue representing you, not the community, not the race,

1072
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 1: not the gender. You continue to represent you and that's

1073
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:56,840
Speaker 1: how you win.

1074
01:04:57,440 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 3: Okay, I appreciate you.

1075
01:04:59,200 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 2: Thank you so much.

1076
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:02,000
Speaker 3: Walk up, Stacy Ross.

1077
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 2: Carlos King, Now why was my no better than Nashley?

1078
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 3: That was good?

1079
01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 1: Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King,

1080
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 1: produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership with the Lack

1081
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 1: of Effect Network. You can also find us on my

1082
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 1: YouTube channel at be Carlos King.

1083
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 3: Underscore