1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: It is Thursday, April. This is Jaguars Happy Hour. Jaguars 2 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: Happy Hour is presented by Duval Motor Company and now 3 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: a guy whose point of emphasis has never been taunting, 4 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: j P. Shad I don't know what it's been, but 5 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: welcome in. It's Jaguars Happy Hour. My name's j P. 6 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: Shadrick Jeff Lagaman alongside. We have a lot to get 7 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:36,959 Speaker 1: to today, including the Urban Meyer Trent Balky review. They 8 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 1: both set in front of a camera yesterday and spoke 9 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 1: with the media over a zoom press conference a little 10 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: over a week before the NFL Draft. Now today, one 11 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: week away from the draft, will review some of their comments, 12 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: including balancing value and need. Well, Urban Meyer, and we'll 13 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: get into some of those comments from each side. Balky 14 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: is a big value you that's big been his big 15 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: word lately, and you know need and and all that. 16 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: It's kind of Urban Myers thing I've been and the 17 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: value is kind of new to him in the NFL. Well, 18 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 1: the search for information in this pre draft process has 19 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: been interesting. Our comments on that. The off season program underway, 20 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: and we'll go around the National Football League and some 21 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: rules changes that we're voted in this week as well, logs. 22 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: Good afternoon, man, good afternoon. How the heck are you. 23 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 1: I'm doing good. I'm doing good, man. Day has been good, 24 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: gonna get better. Yeah, that's a good thing. Yeah, it's 25 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: keep keep the keep it moving up to JP. The 26 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: trajectory is up. Okay, that's good, you know, and and 27 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 1: and so and here's the best part is that the 28 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: day has been great so far. It's gonna be capped 29 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: off with a fantastic meal tonight. Oh and some good fellowship. 30 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: It's a it's all good. That's pretty good day. Yeah, 31 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: I know, it's a fantastic dude. You've had a You've 32 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: had a day. I've had a We're gonna have a 33 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: good hour ahead. That's all we can control. Moving forward here, 34 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: let's get right into it from yesterday, Urban Meyer Trent 35 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: Bawkey sat down and had their press conference before the 36 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: draft next week. Of course, did you catch much of it? 37 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: What's your I read the transcripts and everything, and boy, 38 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,959 Speaker 1: you missed the the in person. Usually it would be 39 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 1: like like a media lunch to gather and get a 40 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 1: free meal and and and here the coach and the 41 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: general manager give you absolutely nothing. But but I think 42 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: the insight was pretty good on Urban's part and Trent 43 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: Bawky's part. It would have been nice to be able 44 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 1: to do it in a in a personal setting as 45 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: far as like it's been done in the past, but 46 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: obviously this is the COVID world that we live in. 47 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: But but I thought they were they were very revealing, 48 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: and I thought that urban Meyer particularly was very revealing 49 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: when he started talking about balancing the value and the need. 50 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 1: Uh uh. And we can get right into that because 51 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: most coaches that they want instant gratification, no doubt, and 52 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: he's always had that in college. By the way, in 53 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: recruiting four and five star guys. He doesn't have to 54 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: go draft and develop. Again, Yeah, you don't need to 55 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,279 Speaker 1: worry about that. You don't need to worry about contracts 56 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: in college. But as a coach in college, look, you 57 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: can go and get a junior college transfer. You can 58 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: go have a great recruiting class and change the dynamic 59 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: of your football team instant. Well, in the NFL, you've 60 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: got to be able to do that by balancing the payroll. 61 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: And that's the hard part. So when when they keep 62 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: using this term value, value essentially means that you need 63 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: to get a strong performance for the money that you 64 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: are paying this individual. So you need to get a 65 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: strong return for your dollars. And that's something new or 66 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: certainly different than the college game and the NFL. That's 67 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: just the way it is. If you're gonna be a 68 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: team that has great success, you have to have a 69 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: roster that gives you a lot of value. Let's hear 70 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: from Urban Meyer on this topic from yesterday in the 71 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:13,839 Speaker 1: media conference. As a coach, I find myself always looking 72 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 1: at need and that's where you gotta be cautious. You 73 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: start chasing players instead of this whole the whole idea 74 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 1: of value is completely new to me, and that's something that, uh, 75 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: you know, I'm relying on, you know, Joe Cullen and 76 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: Bebel as coordinators, and Brian Snyder who have extensive experience 77 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: in the NFL, and then obviously Trent and his staff. 78 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: So I've I'm a quick learner. I've been working at 79 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: this now for about three months and the last I 80 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 1: can't imagine the last three or four weeks. You know, 81 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: this has been our entire life in that room, watching video, 82 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: stacking the board, so trusting the board is key. I'm 83 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: at the point almost there that I will trust it. 84 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 1: But as a coach, I can see where you, uh, 85 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: we need this, we need this, and we need this, 86 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: and that's where you get yourself in trouble. So it's 87 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: been a great learning spirits for me. And you ask 88 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 1: your question, nervous, I'm nervous, spoiled everything. I think that's 89 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: Irvan Meyer yesterday. Let's also hear from Trent Balky the 90 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: other perspective this thing. I didn't count how many times 91 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: he said the word value yesterday, but here are a 92 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: few of them. I think when you when you look 93 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: at the draft, you're looking at value. You're you're stacking 94 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: the board based on the value of a player, not 95 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: necessarily on need. If you do that, you know you 96 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: tend to overvalue players. And you do that consistently, and 97 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: you're not going to be in the game long. So 98 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: you know, what we try to do is just look 99 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 1: at the player for what he is, stacked the board 100 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 1: for what it is, and and let the board speak 101 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: to us on draft day and if there's a position, 102 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 1: if there's a player there at a position of need 103 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: and we have it valued that way, the decision would 104 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 1: be to go with the with the need. So It's 105 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 1: not like Auiji board talking to you a little different 106 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: on you know, you stacked the board like you said. There, 107 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: so and remember the right, I've never personally played with them, JP, 108 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: but so uh either way, So that's the difference, right, 109 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: I mean, urbans trying to figure out what the definition 110 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: of value is in balance and marriage and things about you. 111 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: I never knew playing about the boards, right. Yeah. The 112 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 1: one thing that I think is interesting what Trent Balky 113 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: talks about and you say that, I lost count how 114 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: many times that he says the word value. We've we've 115 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: had some fun around here in the past when you 116 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:34,919 Speaker 1: have catch words like that and you count them. You 117 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Yeah, you know what I mean. Yeah. 118 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:44,119 Speaker 1: But anyway, the one thing I think that is pretty cool, 119 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: and this might be a need exercise for somebody that 120 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: is into the mock draft type of things. Pro Football 121 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: Focus actually has a mock drafter. Have you ever seen that, JP? No, 122 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: literally I have not. You. You go to this website 123 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: and if you put in PFF mock draft, and you 124 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: can do this while we're on the show right here rafter. 125 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: When you go to it, you actually okay, yes, you 126 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: choose which team you are, so you can gonna pick 127 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: the So you make your pick, okay, and then what 128 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: it does it fills in all the other picks and 129 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: then you're back on the clock again at So you're 130 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: gonna pick I would assume Trevor Lawrence at one, and 131 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: then it populates the picks two through and then you're 132 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: back on the plock. And then you have a value 133 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: board that you can look at what the best available 134 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: candidates are and they have rankings, and so value would 135 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: be something of this nature to where you're you do 136 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: the simulator and you're always picking the person that is 137 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: at the top of the players remaining on your board. 138 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:04,559 Speaker 1: And so, but a cool little simulator thing, and Trevor Lawrence, okay, 139 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: in this mock, you know what will happen is that 140 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: they will make all the picks two and then you're 141 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: on the clock again. And then the safety went three 142 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: picks ahead. That's unfortunate, Bateman, the wide receiver's gone vera Tucker. 143 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: The town a cool thing. It's a really cool thing. 144 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: And so, um what you do then once you make 145 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: all your selections, you're making every pick that the Jaguars have. 146 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: You're making two and round one two, and round two 147 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: two and round four, you got one third round pick, 148 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: you got your you know, your late round picks. You 149 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: do all of them, and then once you're done, they 150 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: give you a grade on every pick, and then they 151 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: also give you an overall grade. So it's just something 152 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: fun to do. So if you're a Jaguars fan and 153 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 1: you want to play like Urban Meyer and Trent Balky 154 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 1: a little bit between now and the draft next Thursday night, 155 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: this is an awesome little thing and an awesome little 156 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: tool I think I ended up getting. I think I 157 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: did about ten drafts right now. I would do something 158 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: different every time, and I did something different a lot 159 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: of times because they would choose some different things, and 160 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: I would do it just out of curiosity of what 161 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: kind of a grade would I get if I picked 162 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: and reached for a center in round two? You know 163 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: that was rated thirty players below the guy that was 164 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: the top of the board. But anyway, it's a cool 165 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: little thing, and it's something that I think fans of 166 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: any team can have fun with and uh and become 167 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: a general manager for a couple of minutes. I gotta 168 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 1: say I'm about tired of mock drafts though. Yeah, But 169 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: that's like two minutes. But to complete a draft, there's 170 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: so many mocks, and they all changed after free agency. 171 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: To remember that everybody the wave of mos and then 172 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: totally agency hits, and now we're doing another wave of 173 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: mox and now there's the week of mocks and trade 174 00:09:56,000 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 1: mocks only, and like all these mocks everywhere. Uh, it's uh, 175 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: and that that's just the way it is. And I 176 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: don't read, I really don't. I don't read a lot 177 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: of mock drafts. I don't. I like to read the 178 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 1: rankings or how they rank players, how they how people 179 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: stack players, because I think in the mocks, I mean, 180 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: sometimes people do things for entertainment value, which is great, 181 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: I mean, and that's the whole purpose. You want to 182 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: be entertained, just like with the with the PFF mock 183 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: Draft simulator. But uh, I get a little tired of 184 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: reading mock draft, you know what I mean. And because 185 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: there's so many different possible outcomes and so you don't know, 186 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 1: especially like the seven round mocks. Who the hell knows 187 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: what's gonna happen in the seventh round. If you do 188 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: the PF simulator a bunch of times, you might have 189 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: a clue but you'll have a better idea, might have 190 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: a better idea. I know my homework for the weekend. 191 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: And the nice thing is too, is they actually have 192 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: a little bit of a description about every player in there, 193 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: so you can for for people that are looking to 194 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: maybe learn the draft a little bit better, this is 195 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: a a good way to do it. It's great, you're 196 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna be doing it the weekend and just 197 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: just do that. Yeah, JP and Jovi doing the Monday. 198 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: And when we get back, Joe's wife Lynda is gonna 199 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 1: be Joe coming to bed. I'm on the sixth round. 200 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 1: I got a few picks, were trading up. We're trading up. 201 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: A lot going on, all right, So there your mock 202 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,439 Speaker 1: drafts are here. We're a week away, man, finally, well 203 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: it's not even finally. We're still a week to go. 204 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: But well, and I think the best part is we're 205 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: a week away from what what many expect that this 206 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 1: franchise is gonna be the directions changing next Thursday night, 207 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: regardless of how it how it turns out, it's one 208 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: of those where it'll be before Trevor and after Trevor. Really, 209 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: it could be if he turns out to be one 210 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 1: of the great. Um, this is the moment, Well, this 211 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: is the moment, artless of what he turns out to be. 212 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 1: I mean, if he turns out to be the next 213 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame type quarterback, it's certainly it's it's a 214 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: it's a monumentous occasion. If he turns out to not 215 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: be a Hall of Fame type quarterback and something bad happens, 216 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: we'll still look back at it and say that was 217 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:25,719 Speaker 1: the day that could have changed the franchise. But I mean, 218 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: so this is the day that the franchise is changing 219 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: next Thursday night, and it's changing with that pick and 220 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 1: then obviously the ensuing pics. But but it's an exciting time. 221 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: Look me, uh, you know, I've been kind of a 222 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: casual observer of this draft as far as evaluating some 223 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: of the talent, I haven't had as much time this year. 224 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 1: But the one position that I have watched his quarterback, 225 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: and make no mistake about it, that Trevor Lawrence is 226 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: everything is advertised everything. And uh, I got excited about 227 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes a couple of years ago, and I said 228 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 1: that I thought he was the greatest quarterback that I've 229 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 1: ever watched. Film on You did say that, and I 230 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: and and I'm willing I'm not willing to go to 231 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: that extent with Trevor Lawrence, but I'm willing to say 232 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: that he is right there as the second greatest quarterback 233 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: that I've ever watched film on. He's impressive. Right behind 234 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: He's right there with Andrew Luck. You know, because I 235 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: don't go back to the John Elways and the Marinos. 236 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: I didn't watch film on them, Okay, but watching Trevor 237 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: Lawrence on film, he can do anything and everything, and 238 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: he's got a certain presence about him obviously, and he's 239 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 1: had great success. And so when you combine all of 240 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 1: the physical attributes, which is what really stood out on 241 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: film and watching Patrick Holmes, when you watch Trevor Lawrence, 242 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: the physical attributes stand out, but then also just what 243 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: he's been able to accomplish at a young age in college, 244 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: leading a Clemson team to a national championship right out 245 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: of the gate. I mean, it's just impressive. Plenty more 246 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: Trevor talk ahead, we'll hear again from urban Meyer and 247 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: Trent and ball Key on the potential number one overall 248 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: pick a little later, Yeah, potential, it's it's not that 249 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: there's still a chance they got got talk to ownership 250 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: first to see we'll hear from urban and see what 251 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: you an ownership is saying right now. 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This is one opportunity one and I'm gonna 322 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: put my foot in a batter's box and swing as 323 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 1: hard as I can. And I did my homework. Here's 324 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: the thing. I'm tired to hearing about bad players. I'm 325 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: tired to hearing about bad coaching. All this stuff. You 326 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:02,239 Speaker 1: hear the page you and fans talk about. You know what, 327 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: we don't have bad players. A matter of fact, we 328 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 1: have exceptional players at certain positions, some that have to 329 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: play better. But we have a good poor You're gonna 330 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 1: have a great fan base. You watch what happen this 331 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: this fan base and we start doing what we're to do. 332 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: Winson Dan Games. That's the Hunt episode two tonight on 333 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: Jaguars YouTube channel and Jaguars dot Com. That's Urban Meyer, 334 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: of course, and welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour. J P. Shadrick, 335 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 1: Jeff Lockerman. That's gonna be fun tonight. It's Urbans. That's 336 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 1: the first team meeting, like it's the first meeting. It's 337 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 1: a virtual meeting, but it's gonna be weird guest to 338 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: be to be a head coach and to do a 339 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: virtual team meeting like that, where you're standing up in 340 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: front of the room and talking to a camera and 341 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: your first interaction with your team ever, it's it's just different. 342 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: It's just so different. And you know, I I hope 343 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: that uh in the future next year, that you can 344 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 1: get back to the normalcy of having coaches and players 345 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: interact and uh, I know that this stage of the 346 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: all season program is is only virtual and then the 347 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: opportunity for in person stuff will come up in Phase two, 348 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: three or four days long. It's not it's not a 349 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 1: very long period of time. But you know, that's that's 350 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: what that's what coaching and the coach player relationship is about. 351 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 1: It's not about watching a guy on a phone or 352 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: watching a guy on a laptop screen. I mean, that's 353 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: just it's just not normal, you know. So I if 354 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: I was a player, I would long for having some 355 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: normalcy of being coached in person, being on the field 356 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: in person, not being oh hey, you know how you've 357 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: been Oh yeah, good, you know, and you might be 358 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: at home and you got the camera from here up 359 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: and you know, you look like your professional and prepared. 360 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: The next thing, you know, you know, maybe the guys 361 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: got cheetos and we're in his underwear or something you 362 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 1: know was off the camera or something you know. I mean, 363 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: just it's just it's just different. It's just odd and 364 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: just real quick a note, yes likes you know the 365 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 1: NFL p A and I know you're probably going to 366 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 1: do this later on, do it now? I know we 367 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: we had a last week. If you miss our show 368 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 1: last week, and I don't know why you would the logs, 369 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: you had a nice run there on the Players Association 370 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 1: and their announcements on behalf of certain teams that they 371 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 1: were going to skip voluntary workouts in this offseason, and 372 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: you were against the way they did that. Well, first 373 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: of all, they put the release out and then cited 374 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: safety issues with COVID, which is totally inaccurate. The league 375 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 1: has more safety precaution measures in place than anywhere else. 376 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: Player could possibly train unless he's gonna train on his 377 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 1: own in some cabin out in the middle of nowhere, okay, 378 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: and not be around anybody. But we all know that 379 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: that's not the reality. Players don't have the facilities that 380 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: are available to them that they would have here. Some players, 381 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 1: some players, but jp very small. But to go back to, 382 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: the league started the off season activities really when Jimmy 383 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: Johnson came into the National Football League in nine, which 384 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: is my rookie year. That's when everybody started doing it 385 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: because Jimmy was winning and he was doing it, so 386 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 1: then everybody wanted to do it. And I will say 387 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: that in my six years in New York, we never 388 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: had all season activities with my teammates, we didn't have it. 389 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 1: We got together for mini camp and what we did 390 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: at mini camp was not so much about practicing, but 391 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: we drank more beer than we did anything out because 392 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: we hadn't seen each other in a while in the town. 393 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: But when I came to Jacksonville and Tom Coughlin had 394 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: his program set and obviously he had it set up 395 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: to mirror a lot of what Jimmy Johnson did, it 396 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: was tremendous. And it was tremendous in so many different ways. 397 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: Number One, y're working towards a common goal. You're getting 398 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 1: to know your teammates, You're getting to know your coaches. 399 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: You're getting competition that develops in the weight room. That 400 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 1: made me better, That made me physically better that I 401 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: could not do that on my own. It created a 402 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: bond between guys on the team, the guys that were 403 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: that were on the team. I mean, it was a 404 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: very special bond because we were together and we were 405 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: together a lot, and in the bond between the coaches 406 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 1: as well. It was it was it was all part 407 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: of a process that was formed and it was all 408 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: in the in the whole concept of trying to improve 409 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: as a team because we knew that we were going 410 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 1: to be an upstart and expansion team and we had 411 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: to be at our best in every total way in 412 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 1: order for us to be competitive. That's all season in 413 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 1: that year I hold near and dear in my heart 414 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: because it was the first time that I got to 415 00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 1: experience a team in an all season. And so what 416 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: the Union is is kind of doing in a way 417 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: is encouraging not to have that atmosphere. And if the 418 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: players don't ever get to experience that atmosphere of creating 419 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: the sense of team and creating bonds and friendships, I mean, 420 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 1: they're missing out. And so that's why it's just kind 421 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 1: of disappointing for me from the Union standpoint. And look 422 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: and I and I understand that the Union is there 423 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 1: to make sure that things are that are voluntary are 424 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 1: truly in fact voluntary, get it. But but I think 425 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 1: that they're they're going about it in a little bit 426 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: of a wrong fashion and that they're almost looking down 427 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 1: upon some of the great benefits of having the off 428 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:51,199 Speaker 1: season together with your teammates. Because I can tell you this, 429 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: I had a great all season. Corey Mayfield, Joe Shmany, 430 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: Calvin Pritchett, Don Davy, I mean all these guys that 431 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: we had as defensive lineman, Ernie Logan that first year. Uh, Jason, 432 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 1: I mean all of us. We had a great time, 433 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 1: got to know guys, you know, and and that kind 434 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: of carried us through the season. And uh and I 435 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: hope that teams and players on teams that haven't decided 436 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 1: what they're gonna do yet, I can remember that. That's 437 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 1: also a very special part of the O T A S. 438 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 1: That is the as a benefit and not so much 439 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 1: a a distraction to what the all season can be. Anyway, 440 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: just wanted to I want to say that because that 441 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 1: was an eye opener from e JP I had, even 442 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 1: though even Tom Coughlin was a total pan the ass. Okay, 443 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: just put that out there. Okay, your battles are noted. 444 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: He required us to do things that were way over 445 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 1: the top, and he violated so many different rules and protocols. 446 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 1: There's no question about all that. But I appreciate him 447 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: for what he did because you know, it helped me 448 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: experience something that took me back to college and it 449 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: created a great sense of team And uh and I 450 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 1: hope the players in the NFL can experience that like 451 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: I did. I love it. 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So I want 533 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: to make sure that I want to know where people 534 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: are sitting. I want to know what camera, what we're 535 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: gonna be looking at on the screens, and and Trent's 536 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: been great, and this is the first time this organization, 537 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: this uh personnel of this organization to do it. So 538 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 1: we're gonna be on point. And so at this point 539 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: we've had a couple of dry runs, but we're gonna 540 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 1: go in great detail early next week about exactly how 541 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: it takes place, and so I'll feel much better after that. 542 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: That's Irvan Meyer discussing his first draft room experience that 543 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 1: will happen this coming we can welcome back. It's Jaguars 544 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: Happy Our j P Shadrick, Jeff Logoman and Travel Camp 545 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: presents the Jacksonville RV Stadium Show April through May second 546 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: at t I, a bank field factory. Reps will be 547 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: on site within sentive special financing and giveaways. So, uh, 548 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:34,959 Speaker 1: they got to build the room and do all that. 549 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 1: And they've done that, and you know, it's it's a 550 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: different space than normal this year, and the normal draft 551 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: room is no longer in use, at least for now, 552 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 1: so they've moved i think down the hall to an additional, 553 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: bigger space. You can have more people in there and 554 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: that kind of thing. So all that's coming up this week, 555 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: and it's all coming up because the Jaguars around the clock, 556 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: they will be number one overall. Here's something when he 557 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 1: when he starts talking about camera and such and where 558 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 1: things are gonna be at and because look, the league 559 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: is going to be watching the the football world is 560 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 1: going to be paying attention. The football world is gonna 561 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: have a camera in this room here in Jacksonville for 562 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: that first overall pick in the draft. I mean, this 563 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: is this is a big deal. So I'm sure that uh, 564 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: one of the Look, if you're drafting, you know, and 565 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: you're in the twenties or something like that, maybe you're 566 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: not that concerned about it. But look, I mean this 567 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 1: is also another opportunity at Urban Meyer making a first impression, 568 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: you know, with the Jaguars obviously in tow to America, 569 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: to prospective free agents, to all of these guys that 570 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 1: are gonna be drafted this year, because you're trying to 571 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: build a little bit of a resume, and so by 572 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 1: making a positive impression with everything that is shown from 573 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: here is going to help reflect well on your organization 574 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: in the future. So um so I get it. I mean, 575 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: he wants to know exactly what it's gonna look like, 576 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: what it's gonna feel like, and and that's I think 577 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: why he said that. You know, look, I'll feel a 578 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 1: lot more comfortable once we do that dry run the 579 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: early part of next week and we know how things 580 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 1: are gonna be set up and then and then we roll. 581 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 1: So pretty pretty cool little deal there, though, you know, 582 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: because there's gonna be a lot of attention, right Yeah, oh, 583 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 1: no doubt about that. Number one overall picked for the 584 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: first time ever. And Urban was asked yesterday in that 585 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 1: media conference, you know you said on the Peter King 586 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: podcast the other week they were leaning in the Trevor 587 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: Lawrence direction, he wouldn't go out and all the way 588 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: said he was gonna let the ownership make that move. 589 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: He was asked again, are you ready to make that 590 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,719 Speaker 1: decision now? And what's holding you back? And here's the answer. 591 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: We are knee deep in the NFL draft process obviously, 592 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: and you know we're gonna meet with ownership tomorrow and 593 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 1: and uh, Trent and I are, you know, working together, 594 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 1: But ultimately that's the owner is gonna pull that ticket 595 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 1: on that one. And so we're gonna have a great 596 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: meeting tomorrow and I imagine we'll get closer to a decision. 597 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 1: I wonder, you know, if you're a fly on the 598 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 1: wall in that meeting room logs, what would it sound 599 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:14,879 Speaker 1: like in there? Mr con We've made our decision, we think, 600 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: but with your blessing, we're gonna draft Forrevor Lawrence. Well, yeah, right, no, 601 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 1: I don't obvious, right, I don't know what else you 602 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 1: was supposed to say. I don't know, you know, it's 603 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: a look. Uh, And I think that meetings tomorrow. I think, 604 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 1: well they moved it around a couple of times, and 605 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,320 Speaker 1: then I think they decided that it was today. It 606 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 1: was today. The days mixed up that there's no windows 607 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 1: back there. I don't know, Yeah, yeah, that that's true. 608 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 1: I mean there are no windows't know what time of day, 609 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 1: and to kind of lose track of what's going on. 610 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean it's uh, you know, like ownership is. Uh. 611 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 1: I'm sure is a static about the possibility of drafting 612 00:34:56,160 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 1: a franchise altering quarterback because that's what truly can change 613 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: the fortune obviously of this franchise, and you have to 614 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 1: have a lot of other things in place to make 615 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 1: it all work, but it it is truly a special moment. 616 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,359 Speaker 1: Let's hear from Trent Balky, now Jaguars general manager, when 617 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 1: asked about the research behind Trevor Lawrence the Zoom Interviews, 618 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,799 Speaker 1: the calling of sources around Trevor to get in his 619 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,839 Speaker 1: background a little bit. What did they find? Was there 620 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: anything wrong in the background of Trevor Lawrence? Well, the 621 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 1: easiest way to answer that is no negatives. You know 622 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 1: all the research we've done. You know, you're always looking 623 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,839 Speaker 1: for the stars to align when you're looking at prospects, 624 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 1: whether that be from a physical, mental, character, back, you know, 625 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: whatever the case may be. And with with this situation, 626 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: like many others in this draft, the stars all aligned 627 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: and that's what you're looking for. You told me for 628 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 1: TV that we did an interview this week as well. 629 00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 1: It'll air next week in the UK and then on 630 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 1: television here on Draft Night. Yeah, it's it's about as 631 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,840 Speaker 1: clean a prospect as he's seen well, and that's, uh, 632 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 1: that's incredibly rare if you go to quarterback prospects that 633 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 1: are or were incredibly clean. I mean Andrew Luck, I 634 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:21,359 Speaker 1: mean Andrew Luck was as clean as a whistle successful, 635 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,800 Speaker 1: had everything checked all the boxes, much like Trevor Lawrence. 636 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: And so, uh, no question that Trent Balky is right 637 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 1: and that the stars don't always align on many guys, 638 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: but they certainly were aligned with Andrew Luck, and they're 639 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,360 Speaker 1: aligned with Trevor Lawrence, and there are some alignments of 640 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: with other guys, but at a different level. Because when 641 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 1: you're talking about the first overall picking the draft and 642 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,919 Speaker 1: it being a quarterback, I mean, it's just not very 643 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 1: often that everything aligns, and so a very rare occasion 644 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 1: for for and and and the best part is is 645 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 1: that it's if you were if you pulled every general 646 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 1: manager in the National Football League, every one of them, 647 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 1: and if you pulled all the quote unquote experts of 648 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 1: who is worthy of being the first overall pick. Would 649 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:24,399 Speaker 1: anybody say something different than Trevor Lawrence, I don't think something. 650 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 1: I mean, there might be one or two just because 651 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,399 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, that's the only one that I've 652 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 1: even heard that even has an inkling that it would 653 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 1: be something different. I want to say it's Chris Simms 654 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:42,280 Speaker 1: came out and said that Zack Wilson, Zack Wilson would 655 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 1: be the guy. But he's the only one and that 656 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 1: and that's that's amazing, that's amazing. And in fact, the 657 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 1: Jaguars had an article on jaguars dot com that if 658 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 1: you looked in it and it's basically had all of 659 00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 1: people's mocks, that's the mock draft tracker. But knows ye right, 660 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 1: and John wrote down who everybody had picked first overall. 661 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 1: Was there anybody that wasn't? I don't think so. I 662 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,319 Speaker 1: don't think that's all. It's all been Trevor all the time. 663 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 1: And there was how many how many PE experts were 664 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 1: on that list? It was dozens. Yeah, I can tell 665 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 1: you this. I kept going, am I not scrowing the 666 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 1: right way? What's going on? Yeah? Right? So there's that. 667 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,400 Speaker 1: And then you know, we also talked when when we 668 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,880 Speaker 1: had to sit down with Balky the other day. He 669 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,839 Speaker 1: has a history of moving around in drafts. By the way, 670 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 1: he's not scared to pull the trigger and make a 671 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 1: trade that one. We're not out of that one, you know. 672 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,759 Speaker 1: He said, never say never on the ozone podcast when 673 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 1: they asked about it. But really at thirty three and 674 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 1: especially once you like we were talking about the other week, 675 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 1: you get to those later rounds. Is the value better ino, 676 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 1: is it? You know? Or is there a certain guy 677 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 1: in a in a position group in a place, a 678 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 1: few spots up, Hey, let's put some picks together and move. 679 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 1: He did that. There was a window and draft he said. 680 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 1: I asked him what was the what's the best draft 681 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 1: day story, success, trade, move, whatever, And the first thing 682 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:18,840 Speaker 1: that hit his mind was where he executed three draft 683 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:23,879 Speaker 1: pick trades in like a five minute real time window, up, down, 684 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 1: up again, different spots and ended up with Carlos Hide 685 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 1: at the end of that. Who's now of course on 686 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 1: the Jaguars roster again. But um, that was a lot 687 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 1: of moving around and his first draft, he took over 688 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 1: late because of a change in the front office, traded 689 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 1: down to get Navarro Bowman that worked out, got an 690 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,439 Speaker 1: extra fourth round pick the next year used that pick 691 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 1: to move up a few spots and get Kaepernick the quarterback, 692 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 1: and those guys were a big piece of that Super 693 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 1: Bowl run, the first one in San Francisco, no doubt. 694 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 1: And I think that with the Jaguars, the number of 695 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,880 Speaker 1: picks you've heard me say about, Hey, look, if you 696 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 1: can trade some of that current equity for future equity, 697 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,520 Speaker 1: be great. The big question mark is is that you've 698 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,360 Speaker 1: got to be able to find a willing trading partner 699 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 1: to be able to do that. And I think that 700 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,760 Speaker 1: this year's draft picks are not going to have quite 701 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:19,399 Speaker 1: the value. For example, I know, I think another way 702 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,279 Speaker 1: to say it beside is using the word value, but 703 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,920 Speaker 1: this year's draft picks probably aren't going to have the 704 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,880 Speaker 1: value that they have had in past drafts, just because 705 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,600 Speaker 1: this year's picks there's a lot of unknowns with some 706 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 1: of these players. Guys that had that opted out, there's 707 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:42,360 Speaker 1: guys that teams didn't play, there's guys that didn't go 708 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 1: to Indianapolis for a medical check, and so the team 709 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 1: is making a lot of these selections without medicals, without 710 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:55,240 Speaker 1: a season to evaluate, et cetera. So do these picks 711 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 1: this year would they would would they hold the value 712 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,400 Speaker 1: to trade them away for future picks they have in 713 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,399 Speaker 1: the past. Probably not. You may have to give more 714 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 1: up now to get what you used to get in 715 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:09,880 Speaker 1: the future because of that, because of the unknowns that 716 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 1: are involved with this year's picks or with the information 717 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 1: involving this year's picks. So I don't know if you're 718 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 1: gonna be able to trade now. Look, can you can 719 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 1: you trade some of this year's equity to maybe move 720 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 1: up in this year's Yeah, I think for this year's possibility. Yeah, 721 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 1: but for but for trading a this year pick for 722 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 1: a future pick. I don't think the value is going 723 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,040 Speaker 1: to give you as much as it's given you in 724 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,680 Speaker 1: the past. You know, because in years past, for example, 725 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 1: you can move up around basically seven, two to one, 726 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 1: three to two, four to three, etcetera, etcetera. On down 727 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 1: the line. My guess is is that you may not 728 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,920 Speaker 1: get a full round increase from moving from this year's 729 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:58,560 Speaker 1: draft to next year's draft. M hm. You see what 730 00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 1: I'm saying, And see what you say. I think you might. 731 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:05,440 Speaker 1: You might only get trade partners willing to do business 732 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 1: in the current draft. You may not get teams that 733 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,920 Speaker 1: are willing to give up the future equity as willingly 734 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 1: just because they're all anticipating that next year, Okay, there's 735 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 1: gonna be more normalcy, there's gonna be a combine, there's 736 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:24,560 Speaker 1: gonna be seasons. We're gonna have the ability to evaluate everything, 737 00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:28,120 Speaker 1: and that will make next year's picks better because we're 738 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 1: making determinations based on more information and less on faith 739 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,800 Speaker 1: as we are this year. So it'll be interesting to 740 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:38,840 Speaker 1: see how that plays out, though, to see if that 741 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 1: does in fact, is that impacted? Are the value the 742 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,640 Speaker 1: future values and related to this year are the impacted 743 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 1: and how much it might not be. It might not 744 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:53,960 Speaker 1: be at all, might might not be at all, But 745 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,520 Speaker 1: it will be interesting to see none the lesson. And 746 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:01,480 Speaker 1: this draft to me, because the Jaguars have a pick 747 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:05,239 Speaker 1: at and could move either way with that. If there's 748 00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:09,320 Speaker 1: a guy they really wanted twenty, maybe they package somethings. Maybe. 749 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:13,759 Speaker 1: And then also because of what could happen at three, 750 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 1: and then what could happen at four and five and 751 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,680 Speaker 1: six and seven, et cetera. The number of quarterbacks that 752 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 1: are gonna be at the top of the draft. I mean, 753 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:25,239 Speaker 1: this is about as uh of an intriguing of a 754 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 1: draft is that has been in recent memory? Right? I 755 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,160 Speaker 1: mean this is I think there's gonna be a lot 756 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,320 Speaker 1: of a lot of really good storylines in this draft. 757 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,800 Speaker 1: What was the big quarterback here? Eighty four was the 758 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:42,759 Speaker 1: Lway and and those guys and Todd Blackledge and yeah 759 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,320 Speaker 1: that was that was Tony east and it was Marino 760 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:54,160 Speaker 1: U Marino, Tony Easton and Kenny O'Brien. So that was 761 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:58,319 Speaker 1: a big, big, obviously quarterback here. This this could be one, two, three, four, 762 00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,400 Speaker 1: and yeah, which is this the last time? Was it 763 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,120 Speaker 1: nine where you had this number of quarterbacks at the 764 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:08,120 Speaker 1: top of the draft and it was uh like uh 765 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,920 Speaker 1: Achille Smith and a couple other guys right at the 766 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:13,239 Speaker 1: top of the draft. I want to say that was 767 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:18,320 Speaker 1: and that's the last time that quarterbacks were like eating 768 00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,399 Speaker 1: up the top of the first round. So that means 769 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,359 Speaker 1: some good players could slide down a little bit all 770 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,800 Speaker 1: these quarterbacks. But yeah, I don't like to use the 771 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:30,160 Speaker 1: term slide just because that means that you're you're saying 772 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:35,200 Speaker 1: you're over you're overvaluing quarterbacks. There's no such thing as 773 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:39,480 Speaker 1: overvaluing quarterbacks in this league. There's a such a thing 774 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,799 Speaker 1: as undervalue in a quarterback. But if you're not, if 775 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,359 Speaker 1: you're not, if you if you don't understand, if you're 776 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,920 Speaker 1: in personnel and you don't understand that you have to 777 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,560 Speaker 1: have a quarterback in this league to win, You're full 778 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,400 Speaker 1: you can value the wrong quarterback. That happens all the time. 779 00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:58,080 Speaker 1: But you've got you gotta be willing. You've got to 780 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,640 Speaker 1: be willing to play the game, you know, because if 781 00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:06,520 Speaker 1: you don't, you know, for example, look the Jaguars that 782 00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:10,479 Speaker 1: you draft three quarterbacks that you were hoping we're gonna 783 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 1: be franchise guys here that are in the Jaguars history. 784 00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:18,400 Speaker 1: Byron Leftwich, Blaine Gabbert, Blake Bortles. Nothing wrong with picking 785 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:23,319 Speaker 1: those three guys. Okay, look you take a chance. I mean, 786 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,440 Speaker 1: Byron had all the intangibles, the intelligence. I mean, you 787 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,600 Speaker 1: can see that now. He's a great coach. I wasn't 788 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,839 Speaker 1: able to execute as well at a at a high level. 789 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:37,920 Speaker 1: Blaine had all the physical actects, great on the practice field, 790 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,200 Speaker 1: but wasn't able to translate in the game. And he 791 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,400 Speaker 1: he's improved, but he's still not what you know, you 792 00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:46,279 Speaker 1: expected to be a franchise guy. Blake didn't have the 793 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,440 Speaker 1: skill set, but had the moxie and the toughness of 794 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,879 Speaker 1: the mindset a little bit. I mean, so the it's 795 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,480 Speaker 1: never a mistake by picking a quarterback if you're in 796 00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,759 Speaker 1: the National Football League. The mistake is is realizing or 797 00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,719 Speaker 1: not realizing that they're not the guy that you need 798 00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:05,920 Speaker 1: to have in plays and then passing up opportunities to 799 00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:09,360 Speaker 1: take somebody else. Admit your mistake. You have to be 800 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,359 Speaker 1: able to do that. Fix it because everybody's gonna miss. Look, 801 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:16,080 Speaker 1: that's the draft you miss. But you gotta keep swinging. 802 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,480 Speaker 1: And because if you don't keep swinging on the quarterback, 803 00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,319 Speaker 1: you're making a mistake. Let's come back in a moment, 804 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,760 Speaker 1: we'll look around the National Football leagues some rule changes 805 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:31,080 Speaker 1: and uh planning more ahead. 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And uh I've 902 00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,239 Speaker 1: done a couple of RV trips in the past and 903 00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,560 Speaker 1: when on out West on an amazing hunting trip, it 904 00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:53,680 Speaker 1: was awesome. But uh but yeah, those things can be 905 00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:58,359 Speaker 1: uh truly amazing experience for something. And I can tell 906 00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,680 Speaker 1: you this, if you're gonna get an r V, book 907 00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:04,800 Speaker 1: your reservations well in advanced folks for the for the parks, 908 00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:10,120 Speaker 1: because the people have been uh loading up the parks 909 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,960 Speaker 1: over the last two years. All right, so we've got 910 00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,400 Speaker 1: some rule changes. Well, I know the last week a 911 00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,040 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago we went through the proposed rule changes. 912 00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:21,800 Speaker 1: Since then, the ownership in the NFL has voted to 913 00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:26,200 Speaker 1: pass a handful of these, including eliminating over time in 914 00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:29,440 Speaker 1: the preseason. That's done. That's brighter, Thank goodness. They should 915 00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,600 Speaker 1: have done that anyway. For one year, they will establish 916 00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,920 Speaker 1: a maximum number of players in the setup zone. This 917 00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:39,360 Speaker 1: is on kickoff return team and what twenty five yards 918 00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,360 Speaker 1: to the line of scrimmager can only be a certain 919 00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,200 Speaker 1: amount of players to help with on site. Basically, it 920 00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:48,360 Speaker 1: makes the possibility of having a successful onside kick, it 921 00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:52,440 Speaker 1: raises the chance of it. So that's uh number one 922 00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:56,279 Speaker 1: and number two. They tabled number three the rule change there. 923 00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:58,880 Speaker 1: So number four was to permit the replay officially and 924 00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:03,279 Speaker 1: designated members of the officiating department to provide certain objective 925 00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,719 Speaker 1: information to the on field officials. No brainer there. There 926 00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,080 Speaker 1: was some that wanted to expand that and actually add 927 00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:12,360 Speaker 1: another person into the replay booth that would allow that 928 00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:16,560 Speaker 1: person to solely be essentially a sky judge. That was 929 00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:21,680 Speaker 1: actually the Ravens pulled that back, uh and then put 930 00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:25,320 Speaker 1: their support behind this proposal and UH and and I 931 00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:30,480 Speaker 1: think it's good. The insurement of enforcement of all accepted 932 00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:35,040 Speaker 1: penalties committed by either team during successive try attempts, extra 933 00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:38,480 Speaker 1: points or two point conversions, and then adding a losso 934 00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:40,799 Speaker 1: down for a second forward pass from behind the line, 935 00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,399 Speaker 1: and for a pass thrown after the ball returns behind 936 00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,200 Speaker 1: the line. There was a Tom Brady play this year 937 00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,000 Speaker 1: where he threw the ball, hit a defender, bounced back, 938 00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,960 Speaker 1: he caught it, and then he threw it again. The 939 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:55,640 Speaker 1: pass and then the penalty basically would have given them 940 00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,279 Speaker 1: another opportunity instead a loss of down. Well, I mean 941 00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:01,840 Speaker 1: that's not right. He threw two passes, which you can't do. 942 00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,719 Speaker 1: It should be a loss of down, and which now 943 00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:08,239 Speaker 1: it is, so it's it makes sense. And then of 944 00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:12,040 Speaker 1: course the last one, which is long overdue, which is 945 00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:17,720 Speaker 1: allowing more jersey option numbers for players that different positions, 946 00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,160 Speaker 1: which it should have been. As I said before, it 947 00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,280 Speaker 1: was getting a little tiresome to not see single digits 948 00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:26,839 Speaker 1: allowed by players of different positions. It made zero sense 949 00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:32,440 Speaker 1: to not allow it. Just leave zero out. No, I mean, dude, 950 00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:36,440 Speaker 1: the longest yard, the big guy that uh, I think 951 00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,640 Speaker 1: I broke his neck. It was turned a little differently. 952 00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:43,759 Speaker 1: He was double zero, right, somebody should be allowed. Let 953 00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,480 Speaker 1: double zero. Let Jim Otto keep it? Did he wear 954 00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:50,719 Speaker 1: double zero? Is that guy and longest yard? I don't know. 955 00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,399 Speaker 1: Ken Burrow, by the way, is the last NFL player 956 00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,399 Speaker 1: to wear double zero? From here in Jacksonville? What the range? 957 00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,920 Speaker 1: Would you be opposed if somebody wore zero? I just 958 00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:04,280 Speaker 1: don't like zero, and I don't know your personal preference? 959 00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:09,520 Speaker 1: They started? Yeah, yeah, okay, So were you against the 960 00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:14,400 Speaker 1: single digit rule too? Yeah? Like, there's a reason linebackers 961 00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,720 Speaker 1: are certain numbers. There's a reason linemen are certain numbers. 962 00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:20,560 Speaker 1: There's a reason defensive backs are certain numbers. And make 963 00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:22,680 Speaker 1: a couple of exceptions if you have to, but like 964 00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,839 Speaker 1: the Chiefs had to last year. Okay, fine, don't change 965 00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:33,160 Speaker 1: the whole rule. Do you sit too much noise and 966 00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:37,200 Speaker 1: terrible walking down the street? Yes, yes, Joe Fortunato, Hello. 967 00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:41,320 Speaker 1: Tom Brady said that it's a dumb rule because people 968 00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:45,000 Speaker 1: won't know who to block. Now, aren't you just blocking 969 00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:49,279 Speaker 1: the guy with the other jersey, Tom Brady? Look, Tom 970 00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:53,360 Speaker 1: Brady needs to stick terback. Not good at it's pretty 971 00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,279 Speaker 1: good at it. You know who to block because you 972 00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:58,000 Speaker 1: know which numbers they wear. You study film. Okay, I 973 00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:01,759 Speaker 1: know that John wears number one. Joe might wear number 974 00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:03,879 Speaker 1: fifty something, so I know I got a block number 975 00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,919 Speaker 1: one or number fifty. It's not that hard to figure out. 976 00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,400 Speaker 1: And it's not like you change Oh my gosh, he's 977 00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,520 Speaker 1: wearing a number one, so I can't block him. No, 978 00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:16,720 Speaker 1: it's where he's lined up at. You could take the numbers. Seriously, 979 00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:20,520 Speaker 1: you could take the numbers off of everybody on defense 980 00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:25,480 Speaker 1: offensive lineman. We'll know who to block. As long as 981 00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:29,200 Speaker 1: they can identify one guy. Okay, the big, tall dude 982 00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,640 Speaker 1: with the blonde hair, he's the mic. They can all 983 00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:36,560 Speaker 1: block after that. Okay, once they set the mic, they know. 984 00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,240 Speaker 1: Why don't they just change all the offensive lineman numbers 985 00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:43,399 Speaker 1: to let them wear whatever they want. They're not doing that. Well, 986 00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:46,600 Speaker 1: that's different because it's a little different. Oh you can't 987 00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,440 Speaker 1: is an eligible number JP. That's why they didn't expand 988 00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:55,560 Speaker 1: single digit. Don'tive lineman, don't overcomplicate it. Come on, it's 989 00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:59,439 Speaker 1: really simple, JP. It's really not that hard. And they're 990 00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:02,520 Speaker 1: gonna make Tonning a point of emphasis this year, by 991 00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,520 Speaker 1: the way, which it's always been a point of emphasis. 992 00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:07,680 Speaker 1: They just said they got a little lax last year, 993 00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:10,840 Speaker 1: and they didn't call it as frequently as they should have. 994 00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:18,640 Speaker 1: Should always have an emphasis always. Okay, And when we're 995 00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:21,919 Speaker 1: not talking about celebration, we're not talking about a guy, 996 00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:24,640 Speaker 1: you know, doing a dance in the end zone because 997 00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,880 Speaker 1: he scores. We're talking about somebody who hits a guy 998 00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:30,440 Speaker 1: stands over the top of him and points at him, 999 00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:33,959 Speaker 1: or froze spikes the ball in his face or something 1000 00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:37,040 Speaker 1: of that nature. That's a little different. M I did 1001 00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:39,560 Speaker 1: like the playoff one though, where the guy did the 1002 00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:44,320 Speaker 1: victory signed to Tyreek Hill after the final play of 1003 00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:46,200 Speaker 1: the game. It was the rookie safety for the Bucks 1004 00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:50,840 Speaker 1: because he did it to him. His dad played in 1005 00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:52,720 Speaker 1: the NFL for a long time. What is his name? 1006 00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:56,000 Speaker 1: I forget, but yeah, no it was. It happened to him. 1007 00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:58,240 Speaker 1: Tyreek did it to him. The peace sign, none of 1008 00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:01,160 Speaker 1: him now. He did it at the end of the 1009 00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:05,720 Speaker 1: what Super Bowl? I guess are you giving us the sign? You? Alright, 1010 00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:08,560 Speaker 1: we'll wrap it up, he says, We'll wrap up with 1011 00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:11,800 Speaker 1: some sad news tonight. By the way, former Jaguars linebacker 1012 00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:16,000 Speaker 1: Gino Hayes, he played here and fourteen, is now in 1013 00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:19,720 Speaker 1: hospice care. He's been battling liver disease for a couple 1014 00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,480 Speaker 1: of years. He's thirty three years old. He's in hospice 1015 00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:26,600 Speaker 1: care at his parents home in Georgia, and he's looking 1016 00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:29,240 Speaker 1: for a liver transplant. Now he's on the Mayo List. 1017 00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:32,320 Speaker 1: Our best wishes to Gino. Hopefully he gets it. Uh, 1018 00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:34,520 Speaker 1: he didn't just play for the Jaguars. He also played 1019 00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:37,120 Speaker 1: for the Bears and the Bucks. Was a draft pick, 1020 00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:40,160 Speaker 1: I believe of the Bucks out of Florida State. So 1021 00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:42,360 Speaker 1: I hope, I hope he gets what he needs. Yeah, 1022 00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:45,880 Speaker 1: no doubt, And he was Those were some lean years 1023 00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:48,480 Speaker 1: here in Jacksonville. Of course the start of the rebuild 1024 00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:51,200 Speaker 1: that what they thought was gonna be the rebuild. But 1025 00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:54,840 Speaker 1: he was the third leading tackler in rebuild rebuilding jp 1026 00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:58,240 Speaker 1: S still to this day. But our best wishes to 1027 00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:02,880 Speaker 1: Geno Hayes and his family for a full recovery. Hopefully 1028 00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:05,760 Speaker 1: at some point soon, Let's get that man, Oliver And 1029 00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:08,880 Speaker 1: thank you folks for listening tonight. We've got a week 1030 00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:13,000 Speaker 1: to go. Logs peace, We're out of here. Thanks to 1031 00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:17,000 Speaker 1: Brent Reaver, thanks to Joe Fortunado, our entire crew for 1032 00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:20,040 Speaker 1: Jeff log But I'm j P. Shadrick it's Jaguars Happy 1033 00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:22,240 Speaker 1: Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.